[06:51] <dholbach> good morning
[15:28] <leo___> hi
[15:29] <leo___> anybody here?
[18:50] <c_smith_> hmmmm..... guess there's time to reboot for this kernel update
[18:52] <snwh> can I suggest putting "irc://chat.freenode.net/#ubuntu-on-air" as a link on the ubuntu-on-air site for those who already have an irc client installed
[18:52] <snwh>  clicking it would simply open the channel in their app and they wouldn't need to have to use the embedded one
[18:53] <snwh> not sure who to ping. jcastro ?
[18:54] <jcastro> sure ... one moment
[18:54] <snwh> i thought it would be a good idea :)
[18:55] <UbuPhillup> snwh: or ping mhall119 or popey ;)
[18:56] <popey> doesn't work for nerds who use irssi inside screen ☻
[18:56] <UbuPhillup> ;)
[18:56] <snwh>  _those_ people ;)
[18:57] <jcastro> I can put it in the page
[18:57] <jcastro> but after bacon's podcast, he's editing it right now and I don't wanna clobber it
[18:57] <Antonov> hi all :)
[18:57] <snwh> doesn't the use of IRC make us all nerds anyway
[18:58] <snwh> jcastro, cool beans :)
[18:58] <jcastro> heh, you know IRC, you know how to hover over the link in a browser
[18:59] <openbees> I have no idea why I am here :/
[19:00] <jdrab_> yes we see you!
[19:00] <openbees> Hello jono
[19:00] <Masternoob> Hi, everybody!
[19:00] <jono> hey all
[19:00] <bashrc> hi y'all
[19:00] <ryanhoots> I see you
[19:00] <number22> yay
[19:00] <jdrab_> 52seconds
[19:00] <jdrab_> :D
[19:00] <UbuPhillup> hey
[19:01] <ryanhoots> Finally, I actually made it. Usually I miss these shows by a wide margin...
[19:01] <Masternoob> up up and away
[19:01] <snwh> this is the first of these i've been to in months
[19:01] <richie442> Hi there
[19:01] <dexinox> online
[19:01] <koder> i can see you
[19:01] <pikachuza> coming through this side - in SA
[19:03] <raven> QUESTION: What did you eat today? How was it?
[19:03] <ICEMANno1> QUESTION: HiJonoHow far is the Ubuntu Phone 1.0 development? Will it be on time for release?
[19:03] <Masternoob> QUESTION What do you think about the intel/mir  controversy
[19:03] <ubuntut> QUESTION: what's Your opinion on data leaks by using dash? sending information to amazon?
[19:03] <openbees> What are your suggestion for new comers in ubuntu developemnt ?  How to start ... what to do .. what not do ? :)
[19:04] <raven> QUESTION: What is UbuntuVoice? How does it work, and what is the goal of it?
[19:05] <Antonov> (intel)it has demostrated that series are predecible?
[19:05] <pikachuza> What is Ubuntu doing about Ubuntu trashing to disk about twice a day and the only way to get it out of this state is to power cycle?
[19:05] <pikachuza> its been like this since 12:10
[19:06] <jeggy_> QUESTION: What exactly is Juju, could you explain it like i'm an idiot ;)
[19:06] <ryanhoots> QUESTION: What are your plans for startup music? I heard Sam Hulick wanted to compose one, do you think it'll land in Ubuntu?
[19:06] <who_me> QUESTION: Intel started a bit of a storm with their decision to not carry Canonical's Mir patches. Do you have any type of input from nvidia or amd regarding support for Mir?
[19:06] <ckck> QUESTION: When will we be able to purchase an Ubuntu Phone from a supported carrier?
[19:07] <Tc_> How to send message from ubuntu kernel to IOS apps ?
[19:07] <openbees> wait aren't you avoiding all those questions :(
[19:08] <who_me> Tc_: you're probably in the wrong channel to ask that queestion
[19:08] <DS_McGuire> QUESTION: What Ubuntu community events go on in and around the UK that you know of?
[19:12] <raven> QUESTION: How many cats do you have at Canonical?
[19:12] <Antonov> QUESTION: i don have installed the GForce610M in my laptop, this really save the energy consuption of my laptop? (sorry for my english)
[19:12] <trobert2> QUESTION: Is ju-ju ready for deployment, or does it still need work before competing with crowbar or puppet ?
[19:13] <ICEMANno1> yes! SLAYER!!! ;) love it
[19:14] <Linux_User> QUESTION: What do you think about the decision of Intel of not giving oficial support to Mir/XMir?
[19:14] <Ordaz> answer the question the whole internet wants to know  can you get porn on it :-)
[19:15] <bashrc> QUESTION: what is power consumption like on the Ubuntu phone?  How long do the batteries last if you're not using it much?  Does going to Mir make any difference from an energy usage point of view?
[19:16] <guilhermeaiolfi> QUESTION: what happended to the ubuntu in a nutshell serie of posts? the one talking about unity was the last one?
[19:16] <jdrab_> QUESTION: will it be possible to use unity8 on 13.10 instead of unity7?
[19:16] <richrboo> QUESTION: have any manufacturers committed to bringing out an Ubuntu Phone?
[19:17] <andrescg7> pwd
[19:17] <andrescg7> Hello
[19:17] <andrescg7> ls
[19:17] <andrescg7> icoop
[19:18] <andrescg7> Hello
[19:18] <Andrey_> QUESTION: Have you heard anything from Dell's Project Sputnik? It looks almost abandoned lately.
[19:20] <Ordaz> Question: are you doing anything special for your 43rd Birthday?
[19:21] <sabret00the> Question: Where do you stand on the whole Firefox versus Chrome in Ubuntu thing?
[19:22] <girek> Hi! What about ubuntu touch?
[19:23] <openbees> Thank you for not avoiding that question as a forget to tag it :D
[19:25] <pinguy> This did last long: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1xB7vRZiQDcEVCQX-HVqExj00O6925pWuCV65n4RjeEM/closedform
[19:28] <neuro> http://oggcamp.org/
[19:28] <neuro> evenin' all
[19:28] <SuperHans_> QUESTION: will ubuntu touch support fingerprint scanners? I expect a lot of OEMs will try to provide them to compete with apple.
[19:28] <Masternoob> cats? wat?
[19:29] <Masternoob> btw. thank you for doing this :)
[19:29] <kalio_> How easy is to get to work for Canonical? :)
[19:29] <trobert2> thank you
[19:29] <neuro> kalio_: you apply for a job that they have listed
[19:29] <neuro> then you get an interview
[19:29] <neuro> then you get offered another job
[19:30] <neuro> then you forget to tell them you don't want to go to the interview any more
[19:30] <simion314> QUESTION   what about accessibility in Unity8 mobile/desktop  and apps( like support for larger fonts)
[19:30] <dshimer_> QUESTION: Let's say that there are no proprietary drivers at all for Mir well into 2014.  What would be missing? what would be the problem? I just work all day on a laptop, how would it hurt me?
[19:30] <neuro> then when you change jobs later, and want to be hired by canonical, they don't invite you to interviews anymore
[19:30] <neuro> :)
[19:30] <neuro> this may just be my experience tho ;)
[19:31] <Masternoob> dshimer: you would probably only notice it on gaming
[19:31] <ICEMANno1> QUESTION: Are you going to be at this years UbuCon in Heidelberg?
[19:31] <dshimer_> QUESTION: Is there anything going on with the Ubuntu One sync service.  Seems kind of quiet. Any talk of versioning?
[19:31] <neuro> kalio_: oh and you should prepend your question with QUESTION: if you want it answered
[19:33] <DS_McGuire> QUESTION: When it comes to the user experience and testing you talked about do you think a demo after a fresh install (like the one seen on a fresh Ubuntu Touch flash) would be a good idea? I am sure I can put one of those together...
[19:33] <pinguy> QUESTION: How similar is Firefox OS to Ubuntu Touch as both are mainly powered by HTML5 apps.
[19:33] <neuro> grumpy cat is landscapey
[19:34] <jono> http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/ref=gno_listpop_wi
[19:35] <neuro> wow, total lag between typeage and video
[19:36] <neuro> QUESTION: Why would you want Howard the Duck on VHS when it's out on Blu Ray in Germany?!?!?!?!?!? "WAKKA WAKKA WAKKA!" "Oy vey!"
[19:36] <SuperHans_> The wishlist link doesn't work.
[19:36] <neuro> works fine for me
[19:36] <neuro> hence my Howard the Duck comment
[19:36] <CaseyB> Actual link to wish list: http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/1HUGRJJQTFK9S
[19:36] <neuro> oh wow
[19:37] <neuro> THAT'S MY WISHLIST
[19:37] <neuro> i'm such a doofus
[19:37] <UbuPhillup> neuro alles klar ?
[19:37]  * neuro slaps himself with pointless Howard the Duck VHS comments
[19:37] <neuro> jono: IGNORE MY QUESTION! ;)
[19:37] <Ordaz> question:  is it true your son is an angry driver :-)
[19:37] <neuro> UbuPhillup: ich keine sprechen deutsche
[19:38] <UbuPhillup> Ohh sorry ;)
[19:39] <neuro> really hoping jono ignores my question
[19:39] <Andrey_> I remember there was talk that KDE will not work under Mir. What about the apps that require KDE libraries (such as Kdenlive) — will they work in Unity under Mir seamlessly?
[19:39] <neuro> otherwise he will mock me mercilessly
[19:40] <Cain_> QUESTION: To return to the 'phone and screen performance - why do you assume 'phone apps only appear one at a time? I have a Nokia N900 with Maemo and the benefit of it running a Linux core is that I can run multiple apps side-by-side. Current 'phones will have the benefit of a bigger screen.
[19:40] <ryanhoots> QUESTION: I saw the Ubuntu logo was on the bottom of the launcher bar in Unity 8, will it be like that on the desktop when Unity 8 lands?
[19:40] <number22> QUESTION: do you also play keyboard? along with all these guitars and drums and vocals
[19:40] <neuro> NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
[19:41] <neuro> crap
[19:41] <neuro> :)
[19:41] <CaseyB> LOL!
[19:41] <stoffepojken> QUESTION: How is your relationship with Red Hat?
[19:41] <Andrey_> QUESTION: I remember there was talk that KDE will not work under Mir. What about the apps that require KDE libraries (such as Kdenlive) — will they work in Unity under Mir seamlessly?
[19:43] <Casper_> Will Ubuntu certify Samsung desktop hardware any time soon?
[19:44] <SuperHans_> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[19:44] <DS_McGuire> That wasn't funny...
[19:44] <neuro> that was *very* funny
[19:44] <jeggy_> Great news :P
[19:44] <SuperHans_> That was not a funny joke
[19:44] <DS_McGuire> hahah ;)
[19:44] <asusk7m550> Is there some training and certification for ubuntu?
[19:45] <ryanhoots> My reaction was going to be "woo hoo" because I like Fedora... :-/
[19:45] <Andrey_> My jaw dropped. Literally.
[19:45] <neuro> ryanhoots: *why*? ;)
[19:45] <Ordaz> question: is mir ready for daily use,  is it default in 13:10 yet
[19:45] <trobert2> i believed him
[19:46] <ryanhoots> neuro: I use Fedora and Ubuntu interchangably, for the most part
[19:46] <ICEMANno1> QUESTION: Why is MIR called MIR? :)
[19:46] <crappyquestions> QUESTION: Can you please play on the drums? Just for a second, please...
[19:46] <pinguy> QUESTION: What is Mir going to run as Gnome and KDE and every other DE is going with Wayland
[19:46] <Cain_> Life without coffee woudl not be worth living.
[19:46] <Ordaz> I am suing you for damage to my balls as my jaw hit them so hard
[19:46] <ubuntut> what's your opinion on Prism?
[19:46] <pinguy> Does this mean xmir is going to run everyhting
[19:46] <asusk7m550> QUESTION: Is there some training and certification for ubuntu?
[19:46] <neuro> QUESTION: serious one this time, promise! Any plans for juju to extend to the desktop? Think emerging tech like the Xbox One running 2 of it's OSes virtually (game + apps) ... perhaps a container style environment where complex apps could have an Ubuntu container to run pre-configured apps or services?
[19:46] <sabret00the> Question: Most of the desktop environments available for Linux today are "Windows clones", Unity brought some originality back, how do you feel about all the cloning? And what else original will Ubuntu bring to the table?
[19:46] <Casper_> Will Ubuntu certify Samsung desktop hardware any time soon?
[19:47] <number22> QUESTION: who is in charge naming all these stuff on ubuntu? mir, suru, shorts...
[19:47] <DS_McGuire> Question: What are the plans for Ubuntu Discourse? Redhatter!
[19:47] <snwh> QUESTION: how much wood does a woodchuck chuck?
[19:47] <jcastro> Did someone say discourse?
[19:47] <UbuPhillup> QUESTION: will mir support GTK+ nativly ?
[19:47] <neuro> jcastro: ears burning? :)
[19:48] <neuro> sabdfl went to Mir, guys!
[19:48] <Ordaz> probaby mir cats lol
[19:48] <pinguy> UbuPhillup, good point, because it looks like apart from Unity nothing is going to run on Mir. That means all apps are going to run under xmir
[19:48] <neuro> the space station
[19:48] <trobert2> QUESTION: do you have flatwound or roundwound on your bass?
[19:48] <number22> woo new album
[19:48] <simion314> QUESTION any plans to partner with more hardware providers for desktops and laptops?
[19:48] <jcastro> DS_McGuire: the latest on that is here: http://ubuntu-discourse.org/t/uds-session-on-discourse/959/7
[19:48] <number22> woo wasnt the right reaction i think
[19:48] <ryanhoots> QUESTION: If you could only have one guitar, which one would you pick?
[19:48] <Ordaz> question: do you have velcro attachments for your beard strip
[19:48] <SuperHans_> neuro: he went to the ISS actually.
[19:49] <neuro> SuperHans_: dammit, you're right
[19:49] <UbuPhillup> pinguy: ;)
[19:49] <neuro> i'm a space buff, how did i get that wrong
[19:49]  * neuro commits seppuku
[19:49] <Cain_> It's ironic that "mir" is Russion for "peace" given how divisive it has been. I just don't understand WHY Canonical chose to break with the crowd. Lots of things Canonical are doing lately turn me cold.
[19:49]  * neuro doesn't run Desktop, so it doesn't affect me ;)
[19:50] <Cain_> Grr... "RussiAn"
[19:50] <bashrc> QUESTION: are there any plans to try to speed up the initial loading time of the Ubuntu software center?
[19:50] <RobbieNor> QUESTION: Are there any plans to support nvidia optimus in 13.10, considering the mir/xmir switching based on which gpu is in use?
[19:50] <RobbieNor> *gpu driver
[19:51] <Cracknel> Wayland actually ships with some less known distros as RebeccaBlackOS - http://sourceforge.net/projects/rebeccablackos/
[19:51] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:52] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Turning up late today since I was eating, but the usual question, are youi going to play guitar today?
[19:53] <e8hffff> question, why doesn't the file manager open files and when will it
[19:53] <jdrab_> Cain_: but that's how open & free software works. if something does not work for you, fork or create something new.
[19:54] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: What t-shirt is that today?
[19:56] <sebsebseb> yes to guitar
[19:56] <neuro> sebsebseb: it's an EFF shirt
[19:56] <ryanhoots> YES to guitar! :D
[19:56] <Levan> How are Smart Scopes coming along ?? because last time I used it was horrible
[19:56] <opaijavai> yes to guitar
[19:56] <simion314> yes
[19:56] <who_me> yes
[19:56] <jeggy_> QUIESTION: when will Ubuntu will be run by 90% of the world?
[19:56] <neuro> EFF are awesome
[19:56] <Ordaz> velcro beard plays guitar
[19:56] <SuperHans_> no to guitar, dance instead.
[19:56] <e8hffff> Question:why doesn't the file manager open files and when will it
[19:56] <sebsebseb> EFF one of the Humble Bundle Chariites isn't it?
[19:56] <who_me> guitar time then :)
[19:56] <Cain_> Black or white coffee?
[19:56] <neuro> sebsebseb: yep
[19:56] <ankalus> yes to guitar!
[19:56] <e8hffff> QUESTION:why doesn't the file manager open files and when will it
[19:56] <pinguy> QUESTION: Will GTK run under xmir?
[19:56] <sebsebseb> well in that case I have donated to then loads of times
[19:57] <Ordaz> question: what do you want for xmas
[19:57] <sabret00the> Question: When will we start seeing stuff from Ubuntu touch merged into desktop?
[19:57] <snwh> QUESTION: how much plastic does a plasticchuck chuck?
[19:57] <ader1990> how much coffee do you need daily?
[19:57] <opaijavai> Prevision for unity8 is the 14.04 or 14.10?
[19:57] <DS_McGuire> QUESTION: Ubuntu Tablet... That is being focused on after mobile, right?
[19:58] <trobert2> play that!
[19:58] <Levan> sorry I loged in late have you talked about intel and you know mir
[19:58] <Ordaz> noted
[19:58] <sebsebseb> oh yeah that's a point the
[19:58] <sebsebseb> intel mir stuff
[19:58] <sebsebseb> Levan: can look back trhough the video later? I am late today to
[19:58] <RobbieNor> QUESTION: Is it possible to force 13.10 to use xmir instead of mir, instead of gpu detection?
[19:59] <neuro> that looks suspiciously like jono's old G5 in the background
[20:00] <e8hffff> QUESTION: So Ubuntu Touch wont use MIME file assoociations to launch content to their appropriate apps?
[20:00] <ubuntut> It's Schecter! :D
[20:00] <sebsebseb> turn the volume up! :d
[20:00] <neuro> again, mister crappy computer mic is getting killed :)
[20:01] <Cain_> Very little to hear - you saturated the mic.
[20:01] <Ordaz> mic is shit
[20:01] <neuro> sebsebseb: any louder and the mic will clip hard
[20:01] <sebsebseb> neuro: I meant our speakers :d
[20:01] <Ordaz> poor mike
[20:01] <sebsebseb> oh sounds so much better now that I turned mine up :d
[20:01] <sebsebseb> yeah the microphone isn't likeing it :d
[20:01] <neuro> poor mic + overcompressed audio ... we need jono to play over some wideband codecs!
[20:01] <Ordaz> sounds like listening to music with your head under the water in the bath
[20:01] <neuro> lol
[20:02] <DS_McGuire> This should be the login sound for Ubuntu!!!!
[20:02] <neuro> lol
[20:02] <sebsebseb> DS_McGuire: people say that pretty much every time, when he plays :d
[20:02] <DS_McGuire> It should last like 5 minutes and be impossible to turn down!
[20:03] <ubuntut> composer from Mass Effect want to create new login sound for Ubuntu!
[20:03] <Zoiaguyver> RobbieNor:  A lot are asking that question in the forums aswell, the simple answer is no. Xmir is part of Mir.. You can force 13.10 to use Xmir/Mir or X.org
[20:03] <sabret00the> Thanks for that Jono, that was awesome.
[20:03] <ubuntut> go to OMG Ubuntu for info
[20:03] <e8hffff> QUESTION: So Ubuntu Touch wont use MIME file assoociations to launch content to their appropriate apps?  Btw the guitar sounds good
[20:03] <ubuntut> Schecter :D
[20:03] <neuro> jono: you need to get the guitar into your audio chain for hangouts so we can ... hahaha jinx
[20:03] <DS_McGuire> Awesome :D
[20:03] <RobbieNor> Cheers Jono! :D
[20:04] <DS_McGuire> Until next week folks!
[20:04] <sebsebseb> where is jono going?
[20:04] <e8hffff> Cheers
[20:04] <Zoiaguyver> Cheers Jono, I was late but meh :( lol
[20:04] <neuro> for next time, let's think up some seriously offensive questions ;)
[20:05] <who_me> thanks Jono!
[20:05] <wellsb> Thanks, Jono
[20:05] <DS_McGuire> See ya!
[20:05] <jono> thanks all!
[20:05] <jono> neuro, ;-)
[20:05] <neuro> jono: cheers mate
[20:05] <jono> neuro, :-)
[20:05] <neuro> "does the carpet match the drapes", for example
[20:05] <neuro> or "do you eat your own toe jam"
[20:06] <neuro> or "why do you know so much about woodchucks, hmmmmmmm?"
[20:06] <neuro> just thinkin' out loud ...
[20:08] <selliot> QUESTION: does redhat even have community manager?
[20:09] <sebsebseb> selliot: yeah uhmm  I think Adam Willaimson may be the one for Redhat/Fedora not suire quite
[20:09] <neuro> i thought it was Lesley Hawthorn
[20:10] <neuro> err, Leslie
[20:10] <neuro> oh, she left
[20:14] <bashrc> Bon voyage jono