| Saviq | didrocks, we got a release! awesome man, thanks! | 01:54 |
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| didrocks | Saviq: yw ;) | 01:57 |
| didrocks | you should go to bed as well! | 01:57 |
| didrocks | Saviq: you missed some fun though | 01:57 |
| didrocks | like launchpad ppa not uploading the binary package | 01:57 |
| didrocks | (beeing in some kind of freeze to add arm64…) | 01:57 |
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| Mirv | bregma: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1223671 seeing FTBFS now that cu2d starts to be about operational again | 05:58 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1223671 in Unity "Unity FTBFS week 37, failing tests" [Critical,New] | 05:58 |
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| mzanetti | veebers: hii | 06:29 |
| mzanetti | lol... I like how Saviq puts "Needs Information" comments on his own merge requests | 06:58 |
| mzanetti | greyback: good morning | 08:48 |
| greyback | mzanetti: hye | 08:49 |
| mzanetti | greyback: I messed up with the review (once again) :D | 08:49 |
| mzanetti | app.desktopFile doesn't exist any more | 08:49 |
| mzanetti | I'll fix it | 08:49 |
| greyback | mzanetti: oh dear | 08:49 |
| mzanetti | greyback: but I guess now it's the time to switch to the real model stuff anyways | 08:50 |
| mzanetti | greyback: also, I need to align the items in the launcher to the dash. | 08:50 |
| mzanetti | greyback: is it true that as long as an app is contained in the appmanager model, it's shown in the dash too? | 08:51 |
| greyback | mzanetti: yes | 08:51 |
| mzanetti | so basically I just display everything in there | 08:51 |
| mzanetti | ok. /me is on it | 08:51 |
| greyback | ack | 08:52 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, :PPP | 08:56 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: ? | 08:56 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, "Needs information" | 08:56 |
| mzanetti | haha | 08:56 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: yesterday evening, after flashing my device with -b it took like half an hour to compile unity and it went really hot... | 08:58 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: so I decided to give cross compiling a go. But seems I'm hitting a bug in Qt's cmake files. Do you know anything about it? | 08:59 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, oh yes! | 08:59 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: I thought we could quite easily set this up... just extracting a pbuilder tarball in /opt. I've prepared a toolchain.cmake file already... so run_on_device could quite easily be changed to cross-compile, given we manage to get around that bug | 09:00 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, there's people working no this | 09:01 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, you' | 09:01 |
| Saviq | ve got mail | 09:01 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: hmm... my approach would have been to go with just an armhf chroot for the build root and using the cross gcc from the host system. | 09:04 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: from what I understand in that mail they want to do it for real in the desktop system by supporting all multiarch stuff in there | 09:04 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: which might be quite nice for us. But might be an additional issue when trying to get this stuff running on e.g. windows | 09:04 |
| mzanetti | or other distros | 09:04 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, well, yeah, it's a more complete solution, where you can easily build a package etc. | 09:05 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: you can do that in the chroot too | 09:05 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, I know, that's what's happening there, although a more "proper" way maybe - obviously the net result would be to be able to cross-build in buildd / PPAs | 09:06 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, either way, it worked for me after having tweaked some things | 09:06 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: so you patched the Qt cmake files to actually regard CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH? | 09:07 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/cross-building/+merge/179248 shows what I changed in unity8's code, and an email from me in that thread describes what else needed to happen | 09:08 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, the MultiArchCross.cmake fixes are in distro | 09:09 |
| mzanetti | cool... I'll give it a try in some lazy evening | 09:09 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, I had to hardcode CMAKE_INSTALL_LIBDIR | 09:09 |
| sil2100 | greyback: hi! | 09:37 |
| sil2100 | greyback: I see yesterday unity8 got published - all was ok? | 09:37 |
| greyback | sil2100: there are still some branches to go. But yeah getting there | 09:41 |
| * greyback back in 40 | 10:10 | |
| Saviq | nic-doffay, here? | 10:14 |
| Saviq | Mirv, ping | 10:15 |
| Mirv | Saviq: pong | 10:37 |
| Saviq | Mirv, hey, just wanted to let you know if you want to save time on builders - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-June/037380.html | 10:37 |
| Saviq | Mirv, when I built qtdeclarative yesterday, it took some 20 mins on my laptop to just optipng them... | 10:38 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: as gerry is away, https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/qtubuntu/register-application-interface/+merge/185010 | 10:38 |
| Saviq | I can only imagine how long that takes on armhf builders... | 10:38 |
| Mirv | Saviq: ah yeah sorry, I noted the link but didn't reply. indeed that export NO_PNG_PKG_MANGLE=1 is worthwhile in some cases. | 10:38 |
| Mirv | optipng is really, really slow | 10:39 |
| Saviq | Mirv, obviously if there's a separate package with assets (that's Architecture: all) the gain is smaller | 10:39 |
| Mirv | for either doing more rapid Qt builds or alternatively permanently for our upstream projects | 10:39 |
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| Saviq | Mirv, but still worth thinking of | 10:40 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, happrovd | 10:40 |
| mzanetti | cheers | 10:40 |
| Mirv | Saviq: yes, it could be helpful for the daily release of some packages (or all) | 10:40 |
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| Mirv | Saviq: btw we shouldn't have panda builds anymore, which is great :) but the optipng takes ages on even high-end x86 in some cases | 10:48 |
| Saviq | Mirv, yeah | 10:48 |
| Saviq | Mirv, that was sent back when we didn't have the calxeda setup yet ;) | 10:48 |
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| mzanetti | Saviq: and another one: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity-mir/register-app-interfaces/+merge/185017 | 11:01 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, happroved | 11:02 |
| Saviq | seb128, I forgot so many times... you know that settings app is laid out wrong on maguro? it seems to use a preset width for the items in the grids | 11:29 |
| Saviq | seb128, and they're not horizontal-aligned evenly | 11:29 |
| Saviq | seb128, also, "Language & Te..." is cropped here | 11:29 |
| seb128 | Saviq, no, I don't know about that ... do you have a screenshot? | 11:29 |
| Saviq | seb128, sure, sec | 11:29 |
| seb128 | Saviq, thanks | 11:30 |
| seb128 | Saviq, bonus point if you file a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings/+filebug) and include it | 11:30 |
| Saviq | seb128, bug #1223827 | 11:34 |
| ubot5 | bug 1223827 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Home page misaligned on Galaxy Nexus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1223827 | 11:34 |
| Saviq | seb128, we actually have a ResponsiveGridView for such use cases in unity8 | 11:35 |
| Saviq | seb128, I always thought it could earn its place in the SDK | 11:35 |
| seb128 | Saviq, I wonder what is wrong with the standard grid :/ | 11:36 |
| Saviq | seb128, it's not dynamic | 11:36 |
| Saviq | seb128, you need to set the item width / height manually | 11:36 |
| Saviq | and the item count per row | 11:37 |
| seb128 | Saviq, well we have "columns: width / unitys.gu(<width_item>)" and width: <width_item> for the elements | 11:40 |
| seb128 | Saviq, it does work/wrap correctly on resize on the desktop | 11:40 |
| seb128 | Saviq, but indeed you have cases where it eats a marging | 11:40 |
| Saviq | seb128, then maybe there's just not enough space so that it misaligns? | 11:41 |
| seb128 | Saviq, right, that logic works fine where the width a multiple of the item width | 11:41 |
| seb128 | is a multiple* | 11:42 |
| Saviq | seb128, yeah, you need to adapt the item width size | 11:44 |
| seb128 | Saviq, you need to fix a variable somewhere... | 11:44 |
| Saviq | seb128, and work with a minimum / maximum | 11:44 |
| Saviq | seb128, sure, have a look at ResponsiveGridView in unity8 | 11:45 |
| seb128 | Saviq, so ranges? | 11:45 |
| seb128 | if resolution is in [..] 4 items | 11:45 |
| seb128 | in [...] 5 items | 11:45 |
| seb128 | etc? | 11:45 |
| Saviq | seb128, not resolution, but width | 11:45 |
| seb128 | then have width_item = width/number | 11:45 |
| seb128 | Saviq, right | 11:45 |
| Saviq | seb128, minimum_width <= item_width < maximum_width | 11:45 |
| seb128 | Saviq, I start really disliking qml btw :p there is so much hackish stuff to do/things the toolkit doesn't do for you | 11:46 |
| Saviq | seb128, and you minimize the number of columns having that condition in mind | 11:46 |
| seb128 | it's fun for nice demos | 11:46 |
| seb128 | but as soon as you need things to behave in a solid way it's piling of hacks | 11:46 |
| Saviq | seb128, lol | 11:46 |
| Saviq | seb128, sure it's not complete (hence our own SDK) | 11:47 |
| Saviq | seb128, did you see 5.1 layouts, though? | 11:47 |
| Saviq | seb128, it's just not complete yet :) | 11:47 |
| seb128 | Saviq, thanks for the hint, I'm going to have a look to ResponsiveGridView | 11:47 |
| seb128 | Saviq, yeah, I saw that, I wish we would be on 5.1 already :p | 11:47 |
| seb128 | Saviq, sorry for the ranting, I just had a very frustrating day yesterday trying to parse simple json to display items in a listview | 11:49 |
| seb128 | Saviq, it's like you need to go to cpp, do manual parsing, do abstract model ... it's all crazyness and too hard for a simple usecase | 11:49 |
| seb128 | where XmlListModel is great, it just doesn't exist for json :/ | 11:50 |
| Saviq | seb128, did you write a JsonListModel, then? ;) | 11:51 |
| Saviq | seb128, http://qt-project.org/wiki/JSONListModel | 11:51 |
| seb128 | Saviq, there is one in https://github.com/kromain/qml-utils/tree/master/JSONListModel I pondered just copying the qml insource | 11:52 |
| seb128 | Saviq, but then I've hundred of lines of code copied from somewhere and virtual unmaintained | 11:52 |
| Saviq | seb128, right | 11:53 |
| seb128 | Saviq, I ended up doing a List<QObject *> and turn that to a QVariant, which works but doesn't give me easy sorting of the model or dynamic update ... Laney is going to turn that into a QAbstractListModel that should do the job, it's just a non trivial api and I tried to go for the easy stuff at first :p | 11:54 |
| seb128 | Saviq, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/storage-backend-list/+merge/184967 btw if you are curious/ have comments ;-) | 11:55 |
| Saviq | seb128, QAbstractListModel is only scary at first | 11:55 |
| Saviq | seb128, but for general use it's not *that* big of a deal | 11:56 |
| seb128 | Saviq, well, google let me land on http://doc.qt.digia.com/4.7/qdeclarativemodels.html#c-data-models | 11:56 |
| seb128 | Saviq, which recommends the QList<QObject *> before the qabstractmodel, saying to use that one only if the easy case doesn't work | 11:56 |
| seb128 | Saviq, I feel like I got misleaded to spend time on the wrong solution :p | 11:57 |
| seb128 | Saviq, that's part of learning the toolkit though, so no big deal | 11:57 |
| Saviq | seb128, indeed | 11:57 |
| seb128 | Saviq, it just that people try to sell you qt/qml as an easy way to do stuff, but at this end it's as hard with any other toolkit | 11:57 |
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| Saviq | seb128, sure, the backends need to be there | 11:57 |
| Saviq | seb128, and it obviously depends on the UI you need | 11:58 |
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| Saviq | seb128, in your case there's just more work on the backend than the UI | 11:58 |
| seb128 | right | 11:58 |
| Saviq | seb128, so in that sense it's just as any other indeed | 11:58 |
| seb128 | though my backend need at not crazy ones | 11:58 |
| seb128 | I just need to display a list of items from a json model | 11:58 |
| seb128 | at->are | 11:58 |
| seb128 | anyway, moving on | 11:59 |
| Saviq | seb128, yeah, it's not Python (yet) ;) | 11:59 |
| seb128 | Saviq, thanks for listening to my semi-ranting and still providing constructive hints ;-) | 11:59 |
| Saviq | where there's barely anything you're the first one doing | 11:59 |
| seb128 | Saviq, right, it has potential, as said the xmlmodel magic is awesome | 11:59 |
| Saviq | with python someone somewhere did what you need already in 99% of the cases, with QML we're the ones ploughing through | 12:00 |
| Saviq | seb128, and yeah, well... as soon as you have the second place where you need to parse json... maybe looking at the Json model is not that bad... | 12:01 |
| seb128 | yeah, I was somewhat hopping that more of the heavy lifting would have been done by the other people who have been using it before us | 12:01 |
| Saviq | we might even try to push it into Qt or our SDK at least | 12:01 |
| Saviq | seb128, that's the problem - there really isn't that much use of QML out there still | 12:01 |
| Saviq | seb128, with unity-2d we were one of the biggest projects with it at that time | 12:01 |
| seb128 | right | 12:01 |
| Saviq | maybe not so much nowadays with Blackberrys and such | 12:02 |
| seb128 | which is why I though more would be done | 12:02 |
| seb128 | I though that with the BB and Jolia out there we would have a bit more of the "standard usecase" covered | 12:02 |
| seb128 | but they didn't use it for that long either | 12:03 |
| seb128 | it's going to get there, eventually ;-) | 12:03 |
| seb128 | Saviq, https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-12117 btw | 12:03 |
| seb128 | doesn't seem to be actively worked on atm though | 12:04 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: just saw this stop by in the debug output: file:///usr/share/gallery-app/rc/qml/Utility/UbuntuApplicationWrapper.qml:19:1: module "Ubuntu.Application" is not installed | 12:05 |
| mzanetti | I guess we have a problem :/ | 12:06 |
| greyback | mzanetti: yep, saw it too. It's on my list | 12:06 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, we renamed to Unity.Application? | 12:06 |
| Saviq | dang | 12:06 |
| Saviq | let's push to fix bug #1186556 then | 12:07 |
| ubot5 | bug 1186556 in qtubuntu "Browser does not respond to Qt.openUrlExternally(link)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1186556 | 12:07 |
| Saviq | so that we can get rid of those completely | 12:07 |
| mzanetti | greyback: another issue (not high priority tho) is that the Mocked ApplicationManager doesn't use icon path's but only the appId | 12:08 |
| mzanetti | greyback: so right now, running on the desktop breaks icons in the launcher | 12:08 |
| greyback | mzanetti: ack. Could you log a quick bug for me please? | 12:08 |
| mzanetti | ok | 12:08 |
| greyback | tnx | 12:12 |
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| Saviq | mzanetti, you up for a review of https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/ubuntu/saucy/qtdeclarative-opensource-src/add-qtquick-delegate-range/+merge/184774 ? | 12:19 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, obviously the .patch file does not need a review, as it's applied to the code already | 12:20 |
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| greyback | Saviq: I hold off on this, to encourage gallery folks to use Qt.openUrlExternally: https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/gallery-app/gallery-app-fix-appman/+merge/185030 | 12:30 |
| Saviq | greyback, thing is... it's not ready yet | 12:31 |
| Saviq | greyback, https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/platform-api/papi.rules.typo/+merge/182354 | 12:31 |
| Saviq | https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/qtubuntu/qtubunturl/+merge/181752 | 12:31 |
| Saviq | greyback, and with tvoss away, ricmm on a sprint | 12:31 |
| greyback | Saviq: ah, I thought it was. Ok | 12:32 |
| Saviq | greyback, won't get done before next week, so let's just fix it | 12:32 |
| greyback | Saviq: ack | 12:32 |
| Saviq | greyback, thanks | 12:32 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: I hoped not having to review this :D | 12:35 |
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| Saviq | mzanetti, ;D | 12:42 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, why? it's actually pretty small | 12:43 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, but if you refuse, I'll find someone else ;) | 12:43 |
| * mzanetti never refuses | 12:43 | |
| * Saviq notes that down | 12:43 | |
| mzanetti | haha | 12:43 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: ok... I'll try to get that done soonish. | 12:44 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, thanks | 12:44 |
| veebers | mzanetti: hey how are you doing? | 13:03 |
| mzanetti | veebers: dude... isn't it like 3am for you? | 13:03 |
| veebers | mzanetti: heh, I'm in Boston on a sprint ^_^ | 13:03 |
| mzanetti | ah... you're at the sprint | 13:04 |
| mzanetti | right | 13:04 |
| mzanetti | yeah... doing good now... didn't do so well in our hangout this morning. luckily noone showed up :D | 13:04 |
| veebers | mzanetti: oh the sync meeting? I thought that I deleted the ones for this week? | 13:05 |
| mzanetti | veebers: yes you did... | 13:05 |
| mzanetti | veebers: obviously I noticed that after getting up and ready for the hangout :D | 13:05 |
| mzanetti | coding till 1:30 am and hangouts at 8:30 am don't go well together | 13:05 |
| veebers | mzanetti: oh I see now :-P Sorry I should have emailed when I did it] | 13:05 |
| mzanetti | veebers: no... really not your fault | 13:06 |
| mzanetti | anyways... how is Otto? | 13:06 |
| veebers | mzanetti: it's annoying me because I almost did send an email but didn't :-P Also, I've deleted the next one on Monday as I get back that day and will probably be in bed | 13:06 |
| mzanetti | ack | 13:07 |
| veebers | mzanetti: ah right so I'll ping fginther about that today (now with the qa/ci split) I talked to him about it yesterday | 13:08 |
| kgunn | greyback: hey...so, i am assuming the pending image has unity-mir landed in it ? | 13:10 |
| kgunn | at least from the scrollback on #ubuntu-touch | 13:11 |
| kgunn | i got on late...but misses asac | 13:11 |
| kgunn | i assume there is a script to switch to mir ? from sf... | 13:11 |
| kgunn | or i should ask...how does one switch ? | 13:11 |
| greyback | kgunn: I've only landed the last piece there under an hour ago. The next pending image will have it in, for sure. I need to find out when it is generated | 13:12 |
| kgunn | greyback: ah..dang | 13:13 |
| Saviq | greyback, we can always ask to trigger one | 13:21 |
| Saviq | greyback, as there's only going to be one later today | 13:21 |
| greyback | Saviq: Good to know. When we're ready, we'll have one spun up then | 13:22 |
| kgunn | Saviq: curious...why only one later today ? | 13:23 |
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| Saviq | kgunn, there's only two images daily | 13:24 |
| Saviq | kgunn, we daily release 4 times a day | 13:24 |
| Saviq | kgunn, but only build an image twice | 13:25 |
| kgunn | Saviq: consider me educated :)....i didn't realize that...thot release lead to image | 13:26 |
| kgunn | realizing now image means release plus load of tests | 13:26 |
| kgunn | and duh...i've only ever seen 2 images a day | 13:26 |
| mzanetti | veebers: fyi. we have the biweekly shell hangout now. if you wanna join | 13:27 |
| sil2100 | bregma: hello! | 13:28 |
| bregma | sil2100, howdy!! | 13:28 |
| veebers | mzanetti: I'm keen, just in a meeting. Can you link me and I'll try pop in | 13:29 |
| mzanetti | ack | 13:29 |
| sil2100 | bregma: sorry to ping again with bad news, but it seems unity FTBFS for amd64 and i386 because of failing unit tests | 13:29 |
| sil2100 | bregma: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/149963225/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-amd64.unity_7.1.0%2B13.10.20130911.2-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 13:29 |
| bregma | sil2100, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1223561 | 13:30 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1223561 in Unity "Some TestLauncherEntryRemote unit tests are failing with new libdbusmenu changes" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 13:30 |
| sil2100 | Right! How can we get this fixed? | 13:30 |
| bregma | we have to figure out a way to rewrite the tests so it works with the new libdbusmenu | 13:31 |
| bregma | it's always a problem when folks justthrow their changes over the fence and run | 13:31 |
| sil2100 | heh, right | 13:32 |
| Saviq | uh oh | 13:32 |
| Saviq | I broke hangout :D | 13:33 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, can you drop out and back in, otherwise it won't let me in :D | 13:33 |
| greyback | lol | 13:33 |
| Saviq | "You can't join this hangout because you blocked one of the users. You can make a new one instead." | 13:33 |
| Saviq | d'oh | 13:33 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, well, it's a change to how the right edge behaves | 13:54 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, as now you just pull a single app in in one gesture | 13:54 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: in that prototype I can't see any difference to that really | 13:55 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, the first one was broken | 13:55 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: might be because mouse handling is somewhat broken tho | 13:55 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, lp:~willow-team/willow/RightEdgeNavigation | 13:55 |
| mzanetti | ah. was the second link any different? | 13:55 |
| Saviq | yes, no "Phone" | 13:55 |
| mzanetti | ah... | 13:55 |
| mzanetti | wow | 13:56 |
| mzanetti | looks amazing | 13:56 |
| mzanetti | no clue how usable it will be... but it looks good :D | 13:56 |
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| greyback | mzanetti: do you know: what listens for a bottom edge swipe to show the application toolbar? | 14:16 |
| greyback | mzanetti: I thought it used to be the bottomBarVisibilityCommunicatorShell | 14:16 |
| mzanetti | greyback: it's the toolbar itself | 14:16 |
| mzanetti | greyback: wait | 14:16 |
| mzanetti | greyback: you talking about apps? or the black one in the shell? | 14:16 |
| greyback | mzanetti: I open a web browser, the toolbar hides. I want to show that toolbar again | 14:17 |
| mzanetti | greyback: yeah... it's the Panel itself... it creates a 2 gu area at the bottom | 14:17 |
| mzanetti | greyback: timp might be able to provide details | 14:18 |
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| Cimi | hey tedg | 14:54 |
| tedg | Howdy Cimi | 14:54 |
| veebers | mzanetti, Saviq: you have a moment? I'm having issues running a test script using qmlscene when unity8 is using mocks. | 15:00 |
| mzanetti | sure | 15:00 |
| veebers | I have a desktop file and I'm using the desktop_file_hint. It works when I run the command [1] under a `start unity8` session, but when I export the mock paths etc. (i.e. what the autopilot tests do) I don't see the application pop up | 15:01 |
| veebers | does that sounds weird to you? | 15:01 |
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| Saviq | veebers, on the device? | 15:01 |
| veebers | Saviq: yes | 15:02 |
| Saviq | veebers, or regardless - yeah, we're still using mocked applications | 15:02 |
| Saviq | veebers, i.e. placeholder images | 15:02 |
| veebers | Saviq: oh right, does that mean that I can't run an actual application while under those conditions? | 15:02 |
| Saviq | veebers, obviously we need to move away from that | 15:02 |
| Saviq | veebers, yes, if unity8 is using the Unity.Application mock | 15:03 |
| mzanetti | well... we need to keep that in the mock | 15:03 |
| mzanetti | but autopilot is NOT supposed to use the mock | 15:03 |
| Saviq | yeah, ultimately it should not | 15:03 |
| Saviq | but we just never got around to switching to the real backend for it | 15:03 |
| veebers | mzanetti: oh, so are the autopilot tests doing something wrong then? (with the exports for QML2_import_path and ld_library_path) | 15:04 |
| mzanetti | yes | 15:04 |
| veebers | mzanetti: rats, right so I need to figure out what it should actually be doing | 15:04 |
| mzanetti | veebers: well... for the lightdm stuff we don't have the real thing in place yet. so that's why we introduce the mocks to be able to start writing tests | 15:04 |
| mzanetti | veebers: but the mocks are supposed to be used for unit tests (qmltestrunner) | 15:04 |
| mzanetti | veebers: autopilot supposed to do integration tests => test the real thing | 15:05 |
| Cimi | tedg, hay, was wondering if there was some update on the wifi plugin | 15:05 |
| veebers | mzanetti: aye, correct. I guess stuff was pulled over with the revamp of the autopilot suite | 15:05 |
| veebers | mzanetti: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6092858/ | 15:05 |
| mzanetti | yep | 15:06 |
| tedg | Cimi, Uhm, nothing really news worthy. Working on it right now infact :-) | 15:06 |
| veebers | that is in effect what we're doing | 15:06 |
| veebers | mzanetti: so is any of that needed? | 15:06 |
| mzanetti | veebers: so in the mid-term that should go away for autopilot | 15:06 |
| Cimi | tedg, good | 15:06 |
| tedg | Cimi, Connecting models to delegates to factories to.... and wondering when this gets easy :-) | 15:06 |
| Cimi | tedg, second question, dednick as well… I did some work on system components, to become indicators. It's missing backends | 15:06 |
| veebers | mzanetti: alright, so no env exports needed then? or do we still need the lightDM stuff? | 15:06 |
| mzanetti | veebers: the qml2_import_path should not be there... for the others you'd need ask mterry on the current state and plans | 15:07 |
| Cimi | (date time, users, media player etc etc...) | 15:07 |
| Cimi | what do we do for them? | 15:07 |
| veebers | mzanetti: awesome will do. Thanks | 15:07 |
| tedg | Cimi, ? I'm confused. You did the QML widgets? | 15:07 |
| mzanetti | veebers: I'm not entirely sure how to autopilot the real thing with lightdm... | 15:07 |
| mzanetti | veebers: so that might stay an exception (altough I'd prefer not) | 15:07 |
| tedg | Cimi, My guess would be that you need to put them in dednick's MenuItemFactory class to instantiate them. | 15:07 |
| Cimi | tedg, https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-settings-components | 15:08 |
| mterry | mzanetti, veebers: I think I 'm missing something in the scrollback due to disconnects. What's up? | 15:08 |
| veebers | mzanetti: ack. thanks | 15:08 |
| mzanetti | mterry: the fact that our autopilot tests use mocks is bad | 15:08 |
| mzanetti | mterry: and we should steer away from it instead of using more of them | 15:08 |
| tedg | Cimi, Yeah, so they need to get used by dednick's code in Unity8, no? | 15:08 |
| mzanetti | mterry: so the question is what the plans are in regard to autopilot the real thing with lightdm | 15:09 |
| tedg | Cimi, By backend you mean plugged into Unity8 | 15:09 |
| mzanetti | mterry: which I agree can be somewhere between extremely tricky and impossible | 15:09 |
| mterry | mzanetti, I always figured lightdm was a reasonable thing to mock, because we don't want to set up machines with real accounts that we'd need, eh? | 15:09 |
| mzanetti | mterry: actually we should... in theory | 15:09 |
| Cimi | tedg, yep I think | 15:10 |
| mterry | mzanetti, is our QA machinery even remotely able to? | 15:10 |
| dednick | Cimi: components for indicators? | 15:10 |
| mzanetti | veebers: ^ | 15:10 |
| Cimi | dednick, yes | 15:10 |
| dednick | they need to go in the Indicators.MenuItemFactory to be instantiated by the backends | 15:10 |
| dednick | Cimi: it has a string to component mapping | 15:11 |
| mzanetti | mterry: there's not muck point of integration tests when mocking the integrational parts :) when just testing the greeter code itsel, qmltests would be way better | 15:11 |
| mzanetti | mterry: that's the main thing behind the discussion | 15:11 |
| veebers | mzanetti, mterry thats a good question | 15:11 |
| Cimi | dednick, are you planning to come to the office in next days? would be better to chat live | 15:11 |
| mterry | mzanetti, well... you can still test other bits :) | 15:11 |
| tedg | dednick, Is it possible we could put that factory in the library as well? I've copied it for system settings, but it seems like it'd be better to include. | 15:11 |
| dednick | Cimi: didnt have any plans to | 15:11 |
| mterry | mzanetti, I think we tend towards qmltests for the greeter itself | 15:12 |
| mzanetti | but as I said... I have no clue yet how to autopilot something with logging out the user | 15:12 |
| veebers | mzanetti, mterry are we able to setup the accounts stuff programatically? | 15:12 |
| mterry | mzanetti, we need a robot arm driving the machine :) | 15:12 |
| veebers | ^_^ | 15:12 |
| mzanetti | don't we have students? | 15:12 |
| dednick | tedg: mmm. it's very unitymenumodel speficific in the factory. | 15:12 |
| mterry | veebers, uh, I mean, I could probably write a script to do so... I just don't know if we have capabilities to run such things sensibly with our QA setup | 15:12 |
| tedg | dednick, Sure, but do we expect anyone to use System Components without Unity Menu Model? | 15:13 |
| dednick | tedg: not all the setttings have indicator backends | 15:14 |
| tedg | dednick, The good ones do ;-) | 15:15 |
| tedg | dednick, But what I'm saying is that they're still going to be pulling in that lib, they'd just not use the factory in that case. | 15:15 |
| dednick | tedg: ;) i guess the plugins for settings which use indicators will use the same thing | 15:15 |
| tedg | dednick, So we're not adding a dependency or anything they don't already have. | 15:15 |
| dednick | tedg: yeah i guess so | 15:15 |
| dednick | Cimi: i was working on getting the ubuntu-settings-components package into a workable form so I could put all the indicator items in there. | 15:16 |
| Cimi | dednick, great, can I help? | 15:16 |
| veebers | mterry: well we can incorporate it into the autopilot tests itself. What specific capabilities are you concerned about? | 15:17 |
| veebers | i.e. what capabilities are there (that I'm not aware of) | 15:17 |
| dednick | Cimi: i've been pulled onto something else in the intrim, and it's not really in a fully working form yet. Are you wanting to do this immediately? | 15:18 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, veebers but the fact that we *are* using the application mock is on purpose | 15:18 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, veebers as no one looked yet at moving away from it | 15:18 |
| Cimi | dednick, it was one of my tasks so I am happy to help | 15:18 |
| Saviq | i.e. making sure that no apps are left running when you exit etc. | 15:18 |
| Saviq | as AFAIK there's no way for autopilot on touch to handle that | 15:19 |
| dednick | Cimi: ok, well i'll try get it into shape quickly and you can take over my branch maybe? | 15:19 |
| veebers | Saviq: understood. Perhaps for the specific tests I'm looking at I can do something different with the mocks (or perhaps this isn't the best place for the tests) | 15:19 |
| Cimi | dednick, yes | 15:19 |
| veebers | Saviq: if you launch the app through autopilot it ensures that apps are killed at test end, but not if you 'click' on an application to launch it | 15:20 |
| dednick | Cimi: ok, give me 30 minutes or so. | 15:20 |
| Cimi | dednick, no problem | 15:20 |
| Saviq | veebers, I believe the blocker for us to move away from the application mock is autopilot's ability to kill the processes on touch | 15:20 |
| Saviq | veebers, yeah, exactly | 15:20 |
| Saviq | veebers, AFAIK there was some work towards that, but not completed yet | 15:20 |
| Saviq | or waiting for the new app manager under Mir, at least | 15:20 |
| Saviq | I *think* | 15:21 |
| Saviq | veebers, but obviously thomi knows more | 15:21 |
| veebers | Saviq: ack, right I'll touch base with him and see further. At this point I might see about changing the mocks for this test specifically. Thanks | 15:22 |
| Saviq | veebers, yeah, that might work, too | 15:22 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: greyback: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity-api/launcher-and-appmanager/+merge/185085 | 15:32 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, 107+ /// @cond | 15:33 |
| Saviq | 108+ void applicationManagerChanged(); | 15:33 |
| Saviq | 109+ /// @cond | 15:33 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, should be @endcond? | 15:33 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: yes | 15:33 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, hmm, didn't we establish this morning that this won't work? | 15:34 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, i.e. we need a common library with ApplicationManagerInterface for this to work? | 15:34 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: it works for the mock in this case | 15:34 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: as it doesn't really load the real appmanager plugin | 15:35 |
| mzanetti | but compiles the application mock itself | 15:35 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, yeah | 15:35 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: won't register this in the real launcherplugin ofc | 15:35 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, yeah, but that essentially means that we need the common library *now* | 15:35 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, for Unity.Application and Unity.Launcher to work together | 15:36 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, as we need to pass the ApplicationManager from Unity.Application to Unity.Launcher | 15:36 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: no... we don't really *need* it now. but it would be cleaner, yes | 15:36 |
| greyback | yeah it would be cleaner | 15:36 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: it works for now if the application plugin registers stuff | 15:36 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, even if both plugins compile their own copy of ApplicationManagerInterface? | 15:37 |
| mhr3_ | pstolowski, pls https://code.launchpad.net/~mhr3/unity-scope-home/fix-1223940/+merge/185088 | 15:37 |
| Saviq | interesting... | 15:37 |
| mhr3_ | eh, wrong channel | 15:37 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: yes... seems to do | 15:37 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: that's why I was a bit surprised that it didn't work when registering the type in main.cpp | 15:37 |
| mzanetti | I would have expected that to work | 15:38 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, btw, I asked thostr to invite you to a dash preview-related mtg tomorrow, I'll try to be there, but if not, you have my "power and trust" as thostr called it | 15:38 |
| mzanetti | ack | 15:38 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, if I'm not there and you don't conclude, we'll revisit next week | 15:38 |
| greyback | why did I read that as "power and thrust" ? | 15:38 |
| * mzanetti opens dict.leo.org | 15:39 | |
| mzanetti | hehe | 15:39 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: greyback: my favorite lines from that merge are lines 173 and 174 | 15:40 |
| greyback | mzanetti: yeah, I had just noticed that | 15:40 |
| Saviq | lol | 15:40 |
| mzanetti | stupid test... you got your chance to check the property... now its too late | 15:41 |
| Saviq | hehe | 15:42 |
| greyback | mzanetti: hey, you mentioned to me this morning I broke application icons in unity8 on the desktop. Which icons are broken, in the launcher? | 15:55 |
| mzanetti | greyback: your mixing up 2 things | 15:55 |
| greyback | so I broke 2 things? Oh yay :D | 15:55 |
| mzanetti | greyback: the one in the morning is that newly launched apps are not added any more to the launcher (on the current phone image that is) | 15:55 |
| mzanetti | greyback: the other isn't visible yet. That's only in the mock for the appmanager. icon() returns the appId instead of the "url to the icon" | 15:56 |
| mzanetti | greyback: and the latter one will only be visible when using the fake appmanager. so no biggie | 15:56 |
| mzanetti | greyback: the former one will be fixed by me in my upcoming merge that integrates the appmanager for real | 15:57 |
| greyback | mzanetti: oh ok, I'll not bother then | 15:57 |
| mzanetti | ack | 15:57 |
| greyback | mzanetti: fake appmanager got running "./run --fake" right? | 15:58 |
| mzanetti | greyback: on the desktop you always get the fake app manager | 15:58 |
| mzanetti | so far | 15:58 |
| mzanetti | but yes, with --fake too | 15:58 |
| greyback | ok, so when I just use "./run" I have no icons in the launcher (except dash) | 15:58 |
| dednick | Saviq: ping | 16:01 |
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| Saviq | dednick, pong | 16:54 |
| dednick | Saviq: sorry, unping | 16:54 |
| Saviq | dednick, no worries :) | 16:55 |
| * mzanetti is fed up with mocking the appmanager :D | 16:59 | |
| mzanetti | Saviq: here it is... I hope you don't freak out when you see what I did in the launchermodeltest. | 17:05 |
| mzanetti | https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/launcher-and-appmanager/+merge/185107 | 17:05 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: this will align the recent apps in the launcher with the ones on the dash \o/ | 17:06 |
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| dednick | Cimi: hm. ok, I'm not actually going to do anything with the components at the moment. It's just missing a qmldir file i think. | 17:19 |
| dednick | Cimi: and qmltypes would help as well. | 17:19 |
| bregma | sil2100, we have a fix for #1223561 in, would be be possible to kick off an extraordinary head/unity daily build job? | 17:33 |
| sil2100 | bregma: did it get merged in already? | 17:42 |
| bregma | sil2100, I got the merge mail | 17:44 |
| dednick | mzanetti: just locked my simcard. entering pin incorrectly too many times locks out puk as well...doh. | 18:06 |
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| mzanetti | dednick: really? | 18:11 |
| mzanetti | dednick: that's news to me | 18:11 |
| dednick | mzanetti: apparently. | 18:11 |
| mzanetti | dednick: what is "too many times" ? | 18:11 |
| mzanetti | approx | 18:11 |
| dednick | mzanetti: well you're allowed incorrect puk 10 times i think | 18:12 |
| mzanetti | ah... you entered the puk wrong 10 times in a row | 18:12 |
| dednick | i think it's just counting an incorrect "pin" after the 3 normal retries as puks | 18:12 |
| mzanetti | oh... | 18:12 |
| dednick | i dont think i ever sent "puk", although i may be wrong | 18:12 |
| dednick | i dont think i want to try again :) | 18:13 |
| mzanetti | that might be a bug tho... | 18:13 |
| mzanetti | well... don't know... could be that the specification for sim cards doesn't even support sending choosing what you enter | 18:14 |
| dednick | now i need a new sim card... sigh | 18:15 |
| dednick | shops are closed | 18:15 |
| dednick | putting in an invalid pin makes ofono go crazy... | 18:15 |
| dednick | invalid sim. | 18:15 |
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| veebers | mzanetti: hey are you still around perchance? | 18:44 |
| mzanetti | veebers: sort of | 18:47 |
| mzanetti | :) | 18:47 |
| veebers | mzanetti: ah wait it's late for you sorry :-\ | 18:51 |
| mzanetti | veebers: no worries | 18:51 |
| mzanetti | veebers: what's the issue? | 18:51 |
| veebers | mzanetti, perhaps this is a question for Saviq maybe too. I'm wanting to tell if an application is in focus or not | 18:51 |
| mzanetti | veebers: qmltests? or autopilot? | 18:52 |
| veebers | I'm told that the application managment interface (via dbus) will be available when MIR lands, and not before | 18:52 |
| veebers | mzanetti: autopilot | 18:52 |
| mzanetti | veebers: that should be doable with latest trunk | 18:52 |
| mzanetti | veebers: give the ApplicationManagerWrapper.qml an objectName and get it with autopilot | 18:53 |
| veebers | i.e. the qml introspected properties will say visible == True, I assume because as much as the qml app is aware it is visible , it's just not the one on top | 18:53 |
| veebers | oh really? Cool, I'll give that a poke and try | 18:53 |
| mzanetti | veebers: the ApplicationManager has a property "focusedApplicationId" | 18:53 |
| veebers | mzanetti: nice, that should be what I want, thanks. Good that you're up late :-) | 18:54 |
| mzanetti | well, its not that late | 18:54 |
| veebers | mzanetti: FYI I have a branch that removes the mocking stuff (except lightDM for now) from the autopilot tests | 18:59 |
| mzanetti | veebers: nice | 18:59 |
| veebers | mzanetti: also I had meant to ask you or Saviq (I think it was Saviq that added it) the UNITYSHELL_GSETTINGS_SCHEMA / Gio et al. | 19:00 |
| mzanetti | veebers: no ida about that | 19:08 |
| mzanetti | veebers: btw: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/autopilot-qt/fix-1218971/+merge/184753 | 19:09 |
| mzanetti | veebers: if you have time... it's not urgent at all | 19:09 |
| Saviq | veebers, I didn't add it, but I might know what it's about :) | 19:17 |
| veebers | mzanetti: can do, might be a little later this afternoon | 19:19 |
| veebers | Saviq: ah ok, I assume that it's used to hide the launcher in a unity7 Desktop? | 19:19 |
| Saviq | veebers, aah I know now | 19:19 |
| veebers | i.e. on the desktop that a test is being run on (as opposed to the unity that 's actually under test) | 19:19 |
| Saviq | yes exactly | 19:19 |
| Saviq | veebers, in daily release, the tests are run in normal unity7 session | 19:20 |
| Saviq | veebers, and because of bug #1204480 we needed to disable it | 19:20 |
| ubot5 | bug 1204480 in Autopilot "Display should include strut information" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204480 | 19:20 |
| Saviq | veebers, 'cause we couldn't rely on the available geometry | 19:20 |
| veebers | Saviq: oh ok odd :-\ Right I might just shuffle it around a little bit, add comments stating why it's there etc. Perhaps it needs to exist outside the tests themselves | 19:21 |
| Saviq | veebers, yeah, well, it's probably gonna go away soon enough, too | 19:22 |
| veebers | Saviq: ah nice, that's even better :-) Thanks | 19:22 |
| Saviq | veebers, as in when we start running real Unity8 with Mir on PCs | 19:22 |
| Saviq | veebers, when we can't have unity7 running of course | 19:22 |
| veebers | ah true | 19:23 |
| veebers | Saviq: is there a nice way to say how many tests a directory of qml tests contain? i.e. how many tests are there in tests/qmltests/Dash/? | 19:26 |
| Saviq | veebers, I'm afraid not | 19:27 |
| veebers | mzanetti, Saviq: FYI I'm going to fire up some autopilot tests covering the Dash so we have qml and autopilot coverage of the Dash | 19:27 |
| Saviq | veebers, although we could improve that in the run_tests script | 19:27 |
| Saviq | veebers, awesome | 19:27 |
| veebers | I'm looking at a document that shows design/expectations etc. and there is a deficiency | 19:28 |
| veebers | Saviq: perhaps a grep <lines starting with function test_*> | wc -l should be a quick and dirty count right? | 19:28 |
| Saviq | veebers, better yet, look at the results http://s-jenkins:8080/job/unity-phablet-qmluitests-saucy/1661/testReport/%28root%29/qmltestrunner/ | 19:29 |
| veebers | Saviq: ah nice, thanks ^_^ | 19:29 |
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| Saviq | kgunn, it might be difficult for me to join, dunno if I find a place good enough to talk | 20:37 |
| kgunn | Saviq: good grief man.... | 20:39 |
| kgunn | oh yeah...forgot your at the convention | 20:39 |
| kgunn | go to bed | 20:39 |
| Saviq | kgunn, can it wait until next week? | 20:39 |
| kgunn | yeah | 20:39 |
| Saviq | kgunn, let's just talk it over in person | 20:39 |
| kgunn | yep | 20:39 |
| kgunn | have a good convention Saviq | 20:39 |
| Saviq | kgunn, will do, soon, gotta catch a train 6am... | 20:39 |
| kgunn | mterry: ping | 20:43 |
| kgunn | mterry: so...pre mir-on-mir...assuming the current greeter is phone v1 greeter, will it/can it support custom background/wallpaper ? | 20:52 |
| mterry | kgunn, sorry | 20:54 |
| mterry | kgunn, back | 20:54 |
| kgunn | np | 20:54 |
| mterry | kgunn, yeah, it supports it today | 20:54 |
| kgunn | sweet | 20:54 |
| mterry | kgunn, the system-settings doesn't let you change it yet, but I can give you commandline if you want | 20:54 |
| mterry | kgunn, also, we're just one branch-land away from using lightdm (albeit in just autologin mode) | 20:55 |
| kgunn | mterry: got it, jasoncwarner was thinking they were blocked by integration of lightdm for this... | 20:55 |
| kgunn | mterry: sweet | 20:55 |
| mterry | still will need mir-on-mir for actual greeter stuff | 20:55 |
| * kgunn single handedly bringing back the 80's w/ overuse of the word "sweet" | 20:56 | |
| kgunn | mterry: sure... | 20:56 |
| mterry | :) | 20:56 |
| * mterry goes afk for a few minutes | 20:57 | |
| * mterry is back | 21:10 | |
| jasoncwarner | hey mterry , thanks for that. Seb is on holiday for a bit, though so maybe sync with laney tomorrow on lightdm progress? | 22:07 |
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| mterry | jasoncwarner, lightdm progress? OK | 22:17 |
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