/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/09/11/#ubuntu-za.txt

Squirmmorning05:48
mazalMorning squirm05:52
nuvolario/ mornings06:07
bdukGood morning everyone06:52
Vince-0hai ubuntu-za07:13
superflyohai Vince-007:14
magespawngood morning all07:27
Trixar_zaMorning magespawn07:32
Vince-0*work work07:36
ThatGraemeGuymorning peeps07:56
magespawnis die Oom nog nie wakker nie?08:11
superflyohi ThatGraemeGuy, magespawn, Trixar_za08:12
Trixar_zaHey superfly08:13
inetproGuten Morgen08:16
superflyguten morgen inetpro08:32
charlgood morning all08:35
charlhi inetpro, superfly, Trixar_za, magespawn, ThatGraemeGuy, Vince-0 08:36
* ThatGraemeGuy nods08:36
superflyhi charl08:36
Trixar_zaHey charl and inetpro. And ThatGraemeGuy08:36
Trixar_za:P08:36
charland Squirm, mazal and nuvolari 08:36
charland psyatw and maiatoday bduk 08:36
charldid i get everyone ? *phew)08:37
charlMaaz: coffee on08:37
* Maaz flips the salt-timer08:37
inetprocharl: hi08:37
inetproyou forgot the other 20 odd peeps08:38
psyatwhi charl08:38
psyatwhello magespawn08:38
psyatwhi inetpro08:38
Vince-0all the lurkers08:38
psyatwhi maiatoday08:38
psyatwhi Vince-008:38
psyatwhi Trixar_za08:38
psyatwhi ThatGraemeGuy08:38
Trixar_zaHey psyatw08:38
Vince-0reading: http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/08/30/re-energizing-loco-teams/08:38
psyatwgoedemorgen superfly08:38
inetpro:-)08:38
superflyhi psyatw :-)08:40
psyatw:)08:40
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!08:41
Trixar_zaMaaz: coffee on08:43
* Maaz puts the kettle on08:43
Trixar_za:P08:43
MaazCoffee's ready for Trixar_za!08:47
Trixar_zaMaaz: Thanks08:47
MaazTrixar_za: No problem08:47
nuvolarihi charl, Trixar_za, superfly, inetpro, psyatw, 08:50
nuvolariand maaz08:50
Trixar_zaHi nuvolari08:50
Trixar_zaAlways fun to debate you on other people's statuses :P08:50
nuvolarilol08:52
nuvolariyeah08:52
nuvolarimakes it more interesting08:52
psyatwhi nuvolari08:52
psyatw:)08:52
Trixar_zaWhat does LoCo stand for again?08:57
* inetpro wonders what happened to Kilos today08:58
inetproTrixar_za: Local Community08:58
Trixar_zaYeah, LUG makes more sense to me :P08:59
inetpronope, LUG stand for Linux User Group09:05
inetprostands as well09:05
Trixar_zaExactly. It says what it is. Local Community is vague, so LoCo is kind of ambigious09:09
Trixar_zaProbably invented by the same people that created Cloud Hosting'09:10
Kiloshi superfly ThatGraemeGuy Trixar_za and others09:14
superflyevening Kilos09:15
Kiloshehe09:15
Trixar_zaHi Kilos09:15
inetprowb Kilos09:16
Kilosty09:16
Kiloshi not_found 09:16
magespawnhey all09:16
Kiloshi magespawn 09:16
not_foundsalute09:16
inetproTrixar_za: we are not a LUG here, we are a local community of ubuntu users09:16
Trixar_zaTechnically, I'm not. Neither is nuvolari for that matter :P09:17
* not_found is currently using an Ubuntu cousin... :p09:17
Trixar_zaWe just started with Ubuntu09:18
Trixar_zahttp://www.questionablecontent.net/comics/2530.png09:19
Trixar_zaAlso that's how you quit a job09:19
not_foundaccess denied...09:20
inetproTrixar_za: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams09:20
not_foundnothing says the members of the loco need to be using Ubuntu :)09:20
inetproLUGs do exist as well09:20
not_foundnothing says an Ubuntu Member must be using Ubuntu...09:21
inetpronobody said you can't be a member of the LoCo09:21
inetprotechnically the LoCo Team09:22
ThatGraemeGuyi'm quitting ubuntu next week09:25
inetproThatGraemeGuy: you don't have to quit Ubuntu if you start using Debian09:26
Trixar_zaAlthough it's encouraged09:26
* Trixar_za runs09:26
ThatGraemeGuylol09:26
Kiloswhat did i miss inetpro ?09:26
ThatGraemeGuymy htpc will still be ubuntu09:27
KilosTrixar_za, shame on you09:27
inetproKilos: we need your help here man :-)09:27
ThatGraemeGuytoo much bother to re-do it09:27
inetprothese guys they want to cause trouble today09:27
Kilospoint me at the cause of the prob09:27
inetproKilos: Trixar_za wants the LoCo to be called a LUG09:28
Kilosnot a good head day but well fight to keep our peeps here09:28
inetproai!09:28
Trixar_zaNo, I said I think LoCo is ambigious and doesn't say what it is like LUG does09:29
Kilosloco is a very fitting word for the types we collect here09:29
KilosMaaz, define loco09:29
MaazKilos: Loco \Lo"co\, adv. [It.] (Mus.) A direction in written or printed music to return to the proper pitch after having played an octave higher. [1913 Webster], Loco \Lo"co\, n. [Sp. loco insane.] 1. (Bot.) A plant ({Astragalus Hornii}) growing in the Southwestern United States, which is said to poison horses and cattle, first making them insane. The name is also09:29
Maazgiven vaguely to several other species of the same genus. Called also {loco weed}. [1913…09:29
Kilosi thought loco was crazy as well09:30
Trixar_zaDepends on yor definition of Local09:30
Trixar_zaUsing Locale would probably be a better match for this channel :P09:30
inetproTrixar_za: s/ambigious/ambiguous/09:30
KilosTrixar_za, you been eating that loco weed09:30
Trixar_zaIn computing, a locale is a set of parameters that defines the user's language, country and any special variant preferences that the user wants to see in their user interface. Usually a locale identifier consists of at least a language identifier and a region identifier.09:31
Trixar_za^09:31
inetproTrixar_za: we're all South Africans here, not?09:31
Kilosmostly yeah09:31
Kilosand friends09:32
Trixar_zaYeah, but when I hear Local, I think same town or city09:32
inetproGenerally LoCo teams have a fairly large catchment area.09:33
inetprosee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto#Getting_Started09:34
inetproobviously we can start many smaller teams09:35
Vince-0member count is a bit of an issue, even in Dirtbin - people aren't so amped on LUG unless there's a bit deal on like RMS09:37
Trixar_zaWould be cool to get Linus though or maybe ESR at one point09:39
Trixar_zaI know, ESR and RMS at the same time for a debate09:39
Trixar_zaIn a wrestling ring09:39
Vince-0no sis09:39
Trixar_zaYeah, I'm pretty sure RMS can kick ESR's butt09:40
Squirmhi09:44
Squirmlo Trixar_za 09:44
Kiloshi Squirm 09:44
Squirmheya Kilos 09:44
Trixar_zalo Squirm09:45
not_foundnobody stopping anyone creating a LUG and the Loco and Lug working together ... can also be members of both...09:46
not_foundbut each has a slightly different "agenda"09:46
Kiloshi zerlgi 09:49
zerlgiHi Kilos09:49
=== zerlgi is now known as andrewlsd
KilosTrixar_za, have you tried www.elementaryos.org09:51
Kilosmight suite your pc09:51
Kiloswhoever gave the link here said it was lightning fast09:51
Kilossuit09:52
andrewlsdI've used it. It's pretty.09:52
andrewlsdand pretty quick. ... but it is important to realize that it is trying to be different from other linuxes and a lot like OS X.09:53
andrewlsd... design of the environment is a key focus.09:53
* not_found is currently giving SolydK a spin... it is pretty solid thus far...09:53
andrewlsdMaaz google SolydK09:53
Maazandrewlsd: "SolydK | SolydXK" http://solydxk.com/products/solydk/ :: "SolydK | SolydXK" http://solydxk.com/category/solydk/ :: "SolydXK | Home of SolydX and SolydK" http://solydxk.com/ :: "DistroWatch.com: SolydXK" http://distrowatch.com/solydxk :: "SolydK Jul 2013 Review - An Excellent Linux Distro - YouTube" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPdHeLaRuCU ::09:54
Maaz"SolydX/SolydK Linux: Lightweight Operating Systems - YouTube" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7X5…09:54
andrewlsdThanks Maaz09:54
KilosThatGraemeGuy, no matter what you use there is still irc and us09:54
andrewlsdso SolydK is almost LinuxMint Debian Edition09:55
not_foundandrewlsd: yup... it is exactly that ... with either KDE or XFCE09:56
not_foundsame guy that did those two09:57
not_foundfor mint09:57
not_foundUbuntu is much more than just an OS... the biggest thing it has (had) over others was community... which lingers on long after the OS is perhaps not being used any more...09:58
Trixar_zaIt's sad that I can look at a photo and instantly know it's Hitchcock the movie director09:58
superflyohi andrewlsd09:58
* not_found slaps superfly around a bit with a large trout09:59
Kiloshehe09:59
andrewlsdohi superfly09:59
* andrewlsd offers redbait to not_found10:00
* not_found looks at it suspiciously10:00
superflyjealous much, not_found?10:02
superfly:-P10:02
superflyhi not_found10:02
not_found:p10:02
* andrewlsd wonders if not_found watches "lost"10:03
not_foundnope10:05
not_foundso what did uncle Kilos think of the week-ends Rugby Championship match?10:21
Kilosi enjoyed aus getting beat so good not_found 10:22
Kiloswill see what happens to us with the kiwis10:22
Kilosthey kinda tougher10:22
not_foundwell they are ranked #1 ... and we are #2 so should be epic :)10:24
Kiloslets hope10:24
Kilosbe a good thing to win this one10:25
not_foundepic10:28
not_foundI think I will watch it and suffer night shift :p10:29
not_foundso we have to win10:29
Kiloshehe10:29
Symmetriahaha anyone watch the afrinic mailing list?10:44
Symmetriathings are getting amusing again ;p10:44
Trixar_zaI actually didn't watch it because I was expecting an epic loss. Heineke Meyer was overjoyed. Now imagine how we'd have dominated if he was actually a /good/ coach10:45
Trixar_za:P10:45
mazalMirrag almal11:01
mazalWhen I execute this :11:01
mazalat 7:43 -f atfile.sh11:01
mazalI get this :11:01
mazalwarning: commands will be executed using /bin/sh11:01
mazalCannot open lockfile /var/spool/cron/atjobs/.SEQ: No such file or directory11:01
mazalSo what I'm doing wrong ? What's wrong with the command ?11:02
Kiloshi mazal 11:20
Kilosdid you start with at 7:4311:20
mazalyes11:23
Kiloswhat does the rest of the command do?11:23
mazalJust a ls11:23
not_foundTrixar_za: >.>11:24
mazalthe script is just ls11:24
Kilosive only used at to download or upgrade i think11:24
mazalI just want to get at to work then I'll make correct commands in the script11:24
mazalThat's what I want to do Kilos , want to run a wget command at 00:15 tonight , but at don't want to work11:24
Kilosis there a man at page11:24
mazalThe man page is no help11:25
mazalConfusing and no examples11:25
mazalAs with al man pages11:25
mazalall even11:25
Kiloslol i sukkel too11:25
mazalThat command I got from google11:25
inetpromazal: does it work if you execute it as follows?:11:25
inetpro./atfile.sh11:25
mazalLemme check inetpro 11:25
mazalyes it does11:26
inetprook, now where is it located?11:26
mazalin the same folder where I execute the at command11:26
mazal~11:26
inetproI guess /home/mazal/atfile.sh ?11:26
mazalyes11:26
inetprohow about specifying the full path to at11:27
mazallemme check11:27
mazalwarning: commands will be executed using /bin/sh11:27
mazalCannot open lockfile /var/spool/cron/atjobs/.SEQ: No such file or directory11:27
mazalLooks like something is wrong with my at config or something11:28
inetpromazal: http://salinelinux.proboards.com/thread/24811:28
inetprosudo touch /var/spool/cron/atjobs/.SEQ11:31
inetprosudo chown daemon:daemon /var/spool/cron/atjobs/.SEQ11:31
inetprosudo chmod 600 /var/spool/cron/atjobs/.SEQ11:31
* not_found loves when inetpro speaks Geek11:31
inetprouh11:32
Kiloshehe11:32
mazalat 1:35pm -f /home/mazal/atfile.sh 11:33
mazalwarning: commands will be executed using /bin/sh11:33
mazaljob 2 at Wed Sep 11 13:35:00 201311:33
mazalThanx inetpro :-)11:33
KilosMaaz, inetpro +111:34
MaazKilos: Sorry...11:34
mazalLooks like it will work , now I just needs something in the sh file that will show something that the job is executed11:34
Kilosaw11:34
mazalAny ideas , my ls doesn't show11:34
KilosMaaz, +1 inetpro 11:34
MaazKilos: Sorry...11:34
Kilosgrrr11:34
Kiloshow you do that not_found 11:34
Kilosthe pro is good11:35
inetprohmm...11:35
inetproKilos: you scared him away11:35
Kiloswho?11:35
inetprobduk11:36
Kilosnee man its the net, hell be back11:36
Kiloshe must be very shy, hasnt said a word when ive been on11:37
mazalJust added > atfile.txt to the command , let's see11:37
not_foundMaaz: ++ inetpro11:37
Maaznot_found: What?11:37
not_foundMaaz: ++ inetpro ++11:37
not_found?11:37
mazalThanx inetpro , you da man ;-)11:37
mazalIt works :-)11:38
Kilosi foget how to do the karma thing11:38
not_foundMaaz:  inetpro ++11:38
Kiloswb bduk 11:38
not_foundMaaz: sudo make-me-a-sanswich11:38
Maaznot_found: Huh?11:38
Kiloswelcome back11:38
inetpronot_found: waar val jy uit die bus uit?11:41
Kiloslol11:41
Kilossuperfly, how does one +1 someone with maaz please?11:42
Kilosthe pro needs a karma upgrade11:42
mazalOom Kilos , now I need your advice11:43
inetproMaaz: karmaladder11:43
Maazinetpro: 0: superfly (23), 1: cocooncrash (19), 2: tumbleweed (16), 3: maiatoday (11), 4: drubin (10), 5: Kilos (9), 6: Vhata (8), 7: morgs (8), 8: highvoltage (7), 9: confluency (6), 10: nuvolari (3), 11: Symmetria (3), 12: ubuntu-za (2), 13: russell (2), 14: |3o|3 (2), 15: yusuf (2), 16: inetpro (2), 17: queery (2), 18: maverick (2), 19: sars (1), 20: youtube-dl11:43
Maaz(1), 21: ScorpKing (1), 22: Web Africa (1), 23: Lenovo (1), 24: fnb (1), 25: ibid devs (1…11:43
inetproMaaz: help karma11:43
Maazinetpro: Keeps track of karma for people and things. You can use it like this:11:43
Maaz  forget karma for <subject> [[reason]]11:43
Maaz  karma for <subject>11:43
Maaz  [reverse] karmaladder11:43
Maaz  <subject> (++|--|==|ftw|ftl) [[reason]]11:43
mazalI want to put the following in the script :11:44
mazalwget --tries=0 --progress=bar http://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/ubuntu/releases/precise/ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso 11:44
mazalTo what folder is it going to download ?11:44
Kiloshome11:44
inetpromazal: man wget11:44
mazalBecuase I scheduled the at command ?11:44
Kilosim sure wget downloads to home11:44
inetprofor one, don't do the progressbar thing if you're downloading via a script11:44
mazalYa that bit I know is unneccesary11:45
superflyMaaz: karma intepro11:45
Maazsuperfly: nobody cares, dude11:45
mazalThat command comes out of my manual testing11:45
not_foundMaaz: karma for inetpro11:45
Maaznot_found: inetpro has karma of 211:45
superflybah11:45
inetpromazal: always specify the location 11:45
superfly2 second lag :-(11:45
mazalSo I know running manually goes to where I am in cli11:45
superflyMaaz: karma inetpro11:46
Maazsuperfly: inetpro has karma of 211:46
not_foundMaaz: inetpro ++ noodles11:46
Maaznot_found: Excuse me?11:46
* mazal fiddles in the confusing man page11:46
inetproman man11:46
KilosMaaz, inetpro +1 for helping peeps11:46
MaazKilos: Sorry...11:46
inetpro:-)11:47
Kilosgrr11:47
inetpromazal: man wget reads like a novel man11:47
Kiloswhy dont it work11:47
inetproMaaz: Kilos -- [for not reading the help]11:49
KilosMaaz, inetpro ++ for helping peeps11:49
MaazKilos: Excuse me?11:49
Kilosai!11:49
Kilosi did man11:49
inetpro:-D11:49
KilosMaaz, inetpro ++ [for helping with the difficult stuff]11:50
inetproai!11:50
mazalman page doesn't give destination option11:51
Kilosjust wget it and find in home, dont get too technical11:52
Kiloswb DeonP 11:52
mazalThis is all I get , but I don't know if that is it :11:52
mazal-O file11:52
mazal       --output-document=file11:52
mazal           The documents will not be written to the appropriate files, but all will be concatenated11:52
mazal           together and written to file.  If - is used as file, documents will be printed to standard11:52
mazal           output, disabling link conversion.  (Use ./- to print to a file literally named -.)11:52
DeonPbeen on hols :)11:52
inetpromazal: that is it11:52
Kilosnice11:52
mazalSo:11:53
mazalwget --tries=0 --progress=bar -O /home/mazal/ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso  http://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/ubuntu/releases/precise/ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso11:53
mazalLike that ?11:53
andrewlsdrather11:54
andrewlsdwget -q -c  -O /home/mazal/ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso http://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/ubuntu/releases/precise/ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso11:54
andrewlsd-q == quiet11:54
inetpromazal: ^^11:55
andrewlsd-c (try to continue)11:55
cocooncrashmazal: You could probably also do "cd ~/downloads && wget ..."11:55
andrewlsd^^11:55
DeonPQ for the networking xperts :) T2TP connection up on ppp0 with fixed IP assigned a.b.c.d. From the lan side i can enter a.b.c.d in browser and apache responds but from internet side i get time-out. tcp dump on ppp0 shows tcp traffic reaching ppp0 but i think traffic not returning back to ppp011:55
DeonPL2TP11:55
inetproKilos: did you notice who is back?11:56
Kiloswb cocooncrash where you been11:56
cocooncrashKilos: Back from California for a few weeks11:56
inetproeven andrewlsd has been very quiet11:56
inetpronice to see you guys!11:57
Kiloswell wb we missed you11:57
cocooncrash:)11:57
andrewlsdlol11:58
Kiloshi Tonberry 12:03
Kilosother one too12:03
KilosDeonP, why dont you have simple probs12:05
DeonPmy life is never simple lol12:06
Kiloslooks like12:06
Kiloseveryone else gets told man this or that12:07
Kilosi dont think man pages even know what you are trying to do12:07
Kilosinetpro, wheres man for that?12:08
inetproDeonP: try asking at #glug.za12:08
DeonPty will try12:09
mazalcocooncrash, nice idea thanx , didn't think about that one12:12
mazalOr I could even first line cd ~/Downloads and second line wget........12:12
mazalIt's will be a script running12:12
mazalOom Kilos , how do you do updates with the at command ?12:17
mazalOne needs sudo12:17
Kilosi think i just used the command12:18
Kilossudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade12:18
mazalAnd the password ?12:19
mazalWhere does that go ?12:19
mazalOr you run it in root mode ?12:19
Kilosdoesnt it run without a password with at?12:19
Kilosi dunno12:19
mazalI don't know , that's why I'm asking12:19
Kilosthe pro will know12:19
Kilosor say man at12:20
Kiloshehe12:20
mazalWould also like to do updates after midnight12:20
mazalAg nee man , man is useless , ek hou nie van man nie man !!!12:20
Kiloslol12:20
* mazal grabs a stick and wacks man until man is no man no more12:21
KilosMaaz, google how to use at to do update/upgrades on ubuntu12:22
MaazKilos: "Upgrading - Official Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html :: "AptGet/Howto - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto :: "Automatic Security Updates - Official Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates :: "How do I update Ubuntu12:22
MaazLinux softwares? - nixCraft" http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-update-ubuntu-linux-soft…12:22
Kilosai112:22
mazalNeeman oom Kilos , jy't dit al gedoen , leer my12:23
KilosMaaz, google using the at command to update in the future12:23
MaazKilos: "War Balloon Talks About Future 'Star Command' Updates | Touch ..." http://toucharcade.com/2013/05/21/war-balloon-talks-about-future-star-command-updates/ :: "CVS--Concurrent Versions System - Guide to CVS commands - Blank" http://www.thathost.com/wincvs-howto/cvsdoc/cvs_16.html :: "Reference manual for CVS commands"12:23
Maazhttp://www.cs.utah.edu/dept/old/texinfo/cvs/cvs_18.html :: "Command Post of the Future - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://…12:23
Kilossjoe man dit was maande terug12:23
Kiloshi nocware 12:23
mazalLOL , war balloon lol , mooi maaz12:24
nocwareKilos sup12:24
Kilosnp and there12:24
nocwareNo big problem all goof12:25
nocwareGood*12:25
magespawnlater all12:25
Kiloslater magespawn 12:25
Kilosmazal, did you try just with the command12:25
mazalnope12:26
Kilosit might do it without password12:26
mazalThere is one BIG flaw in at command12:27
mazalYou must write a script first12:28
mazalCan't just type the command , or I am missing something again12:28
mazalI get syntex error if I just add a command after the time12:29
Kilosai!12:29
Kilosset your alarm to wake you at midnight12:29
mazal -f file Reads the job from file rather than standard input.12:30
Kilosonly the pro will know how to do that and he must be kinda busy12:30
mazalBut it doesn't say how must the standard input look **sigh** man pages12:30
Kilosyeah i hate them too12:30
Kilosbut some peeps read them like novels12:31
mazalWithout examples a doc is useless12:31
Kiloshehe you gotta read between the lines12:33
KilosMaaz, inetpro  ++12:36
Kilosoh my12:36
mazalOk oom sudo apt-get update doesn't work with at12:36
mazalJust scheduled one to run 1 minute later , nothing happens12:36
Kiloshmm...12:37
Kilosalarm?12:37
ThatGraemeGuymazal: echo "your-command" | at 14:3812:37
ThatGraemeGuyecho "echo hello | wall" | at 14:3812:37
Kilosleave you pc online with audio on and ill ping you12:37
ThatGraemeGuy"echo hello | wall" is the command12:38
ThatGraemeGuyyou can test the command using: sh -c "command"12:38
ThatGraemeGuybecause 'at' is effectively doing that12:38
ThatGraemeGuyare you just messing around, or are you actually trying to use 'at' for something?12:39
mazalYeah I want to learn to use at to run commands at a later time. So now I'm trying to figure it out12:39
ThatGraemeGuyah12:40
ThatGraemeGuyfwiw, i've never seen any real-world use of 'at'12:41
andrewlsdit might be worth mentioning at this point that there are some cron jobs that get run for apt also on most 'buntus12:41
mazalMust you put the echo in the beginning ?12:42
Kilosit works well to wget stuff after 11pm to use night surfer data when you asleep12:42
andrewlsd...one use case for the upgrade is the cheaper "night owl" 3G data12:42
andrewlsd... but what I would rather do is something like... (as root, not sudo)12:42
andrewlsdapt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -dy12:42
andrewlsd... so that no software gets installed, but everything gets downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives/12:43
andrewlsdso that the next morning, when you are able to intervene if dialogs require input, you can do the actual software upgrades.12:43
ThatGraemeGuymazal: that's how you get input to the stdin of another process12:44
ThatGraemeGuyecho "something" | myproc12:44
mazalI just did this :12:44
mazalsudo apt-get update | at 2:44pm12:44
ThatGraemeGuy"something" is what myproc would find if it were to read its stdin12:44
mazalAnd it started checking at 2:4412:44
mazalSo mine is wrong ?12:45
andrewlsdmazal, I expect that you would have problems with sudo authentication timeout12:45
andrewlsdif you set that for a time more than a few minutes in the future.12:45
mazalAg nee :-(12:45
mazalSo how am I gonna schedule updates after midnight **scratches head**12:46
ThatGraemeGuycreate a cron job that runs as root12:46
mazalCan't I just sudo su12:46
ThatGraemeGuy'at' is pretty ancient12:46
mazalAnd then the at command ?12:46
ThatGraemeGuysudo requires you to enter your password12:47
mazalEven if you in root mode ?12:47
ThatGraemeGuyoh, you're creating at jobs as root?12:47
mazalja12:47
mazalsudo su12:47
ThatGraemeGuyoh12:47
mazalenter password12:47
mazalat command12:47
mazalgo to bed12:47
ThatGraemeGuymeh.... no idea, i still say use cron12:47
bdukBye all12:49
mazalThatGraemeGuy, I don't know how to do that12:49
mazalWill look into it12:49
mazalHome time , bye all. Enjoy your evening12:50
Kiloscheers mazal 12:50
ThatGraemeGuyyeah, since you're trying to learn, might as well learn the more modern option :)12:50
ThatGraemeGuyciao ciao!12:50
nuvolarioh hi oom Kilos 13:28
Kiloslo nuvolari 13:28
KilosThatGraemeGuy, have you perhaps got a link that explains the more modern way nicely?13:29
ThatGraemeGuyman 5 crontab13:30
Kiloslol you okes and man13:30
Kilosty will lookmat it13:30
Kiloslook at13:30
ThatGraemeGuyyou don't laugh at doctors and their medical testbooks do you? :P13:31
ThatGraemeGuysame reason you needn't laugh at our man pages13:31
ThatGraemeGuy:D13:31
ThatGraemeGuyuh13:31
ThatGraemeGuytextbooks13:31
Kilosim not lol at you , its the idea of man pages13:32
Kilosi find them hard to understand13:32
Kilosthey are written for peeps that know13:32
ThatGraemeGuymaaz, google how to use cron13:32
MaazThatGraemeGuy: "What are cron and crontab, and how do I use them? - Knowledge Base" http://kb.iu.edu/data/afiz.html :: "Newbie: Intro to cron - UnixGeeks.org" http://www.unixgeeks.org/security/newbie/unix/cron-1.html :: "Schedule tasks on Linux using crontab - Kevin van Zonneveld" http://kvz.io/blog/2007/07/29/schedule-tasks-on-linux-using-crontab/ :: "Cron and13:32
MaazCrontab usage and examples - Pantz.org" http://www.pantz.org/software/cron/croninfo.html :: …13:32
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: that makes no sense13:33
ThatGraemeGuythey are written for people who want to know13:33
ThatGraemeGuythe peeps that know don't need man pages ...... we already know :P13:33
Kilosthey are written for guys with an understanding of linux13:33
ThatGraemeGuyag nonsies13:33
Kiloswith some IT background then13:34
ThatGraemeGuythey're written in english, if you can read, you can make it work ;)13:34
Kiloshehe13:34
magespawnafternoon all13:43
Kiloshi magespawn 13:44
* Kilos looks here13:44
Kiloshttp://www.unixgeeks.org/security/newbie/unix/cron-1.html13:44
Kilossigh13:44
not_foundwell that is one plant off... stupid pump tripped... bb tomorrow I suspect :p13:48
Kilossjoe13:51
Kiloshmm...15:37
Kilosyou home magespawn ?15:38
magespawnyes got of early today15:38
Kilosi been waiting for your later all15:39
Kilosgonna take some getting used to this new job15:39
magespawnyup definately15:40
Symmetriayou know, american cluelessness and arrogance at points really knows no bounds? I was sitting downstairs at the hotel having dinner and there was this american couple at the table next to me, and there is a live band playing, playing extremely traditional mauritian music and the chick was like "you know, its amazing how far american influence has spread, I mean, listen to those regga beats, straight outta the good old USA"16:15
* Symmetria bangs his head on the desk16:16
magespawnSymmetria: like regga comes from the usa anyway16:21
Symmetriamagespawn my thoughts exactly, and this wasnt close to regga anyway16:22
kbmonkeyhello17:25
Kilosyo kbmonkey 17:25
kbmonkeyyo Kilos 17:25
Kilosyou in time to tell me how to see the stratup scripts once booted17:26
Kilosstartup17:26
Kilosthey fly past so fast one cant keep up17:27
kbmonkeyso you say he just zoomed through? ha ha17:27
Kiloshehe17:27
kbmonkeywell, what kind of startup scripts? like system services?17:28
Kilosyeah ian glimpsed some thing to do on his kde17:28
Kilosbut too fast to see what17:28
DeonPi give up17:29
Kilosaw DeonP no joy17:29
DeonPnope17:29
Kilosdid the glug guys not know either17:29
Kilosthey are more the networking okes17:29
kbmonkeywell, commands in ~/.bash_profile get run on login17:30
kbmonkeyand system services live as scripts in /etc/init.d/17:30
kbmonkeyalso, depending on your window manager, each has a different way to launch startup commands17:30
kbmonkeylike ~/.xinitrc17:30
DeonPthey knew but only told me basics17:30
kbmonkeyso it all depends on what you are looking for :D17:30
kbmonkeyin ubuntu there was a "startup applications" or "sessions" menu 17:30
DeonPjust told be its doing something i dont understand17:30
Kiloshe wants to see what it says he must do17:30
kbmonkeybut I cannot say where this lives in the new unity interface17:30
kbmonkeyhmm, well I do not understand that question very well17:31
Kiloshe just says he saw in when booting kbmonkey 17:31
kbmonkeysee what it says he must do what? add a new startup command?17:31
Kilosthat might find it17:31
kbmonkeyor find an existing startup command?17:31
Kilosi think something is broken or removed by accident17:32
Kilosno panel or launcher17:32
kbmonkeyhe saw an error on login, is that what you mean kilos?17:32
Kilosyeah17:32
kbmonkeyah17:32
Kiloshe calls it to do stuff17:32
kbmonkeywell I have not used KDE for years now, I cant say where that configures startup commands17:33
kbmonkeybut you may check the file ~/.Xsession-errors (or something like that)17:33
Kilosok ty17:33
kbmonkeybut your best bet is to google for how to check KDE startup commands17:33
kbmonkeyperhaps the panel got uninstalled?17:34
Kiloswe all have17:34
Kilosyeah but i dont find a package for it17:34
Kilossorry DeonP 17:35
kbmonkeyyou can look in the file /var/log/apt/history.log and look for dates around the time this started happending, and try spot if anything got removed that might be related17:36
Kiloshave you got what they told you17:36
kbmonkeyfind out what the kde panel package name is called, and search for it in that history17:36
Kiloshe is doing everything from cli kbmonkey 17:36
kbmonkeyis this Kubuntu?17:36
Kilosyeah17:37
Kiloshe had an open proxy thing going and we removed lotsa stuff to get freenode to unban him17:37
kbmonkeyokay. on log in does it show a blank desktop? is there a mouse cursor ?17:37
kbmonkeyi.e. does X start?17:37
Kilosno desktop there but no bottom panel or launcher17:38
kbmonkeyokay, if he right-clicks on the desktop does a menu come up?17:38
Kilosyeah but no add panel option17:39
kbmonkeycool. I got some steps here what to do if there is no add panel17:39
Kilosyay17:39
kbmonkey2) Right-click on the desktop and select 'appearance settings'. This should open up a 'Desktop settings - Plasma Workspace' dialogue.17:40
kbmonkeylet me know when he is ready for the next step :)17:41
Kiloshes gone offline or something17:41
Kilosyou can give ill save to a document17:41
Kilosbad 3g by him17:41
Kilosbad internet rather17:41
kbmonkeyokay, the link I got it from is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=130354917:42
Kiloscool ty17:42
kbmonkeyyw!17:42
kbmonkeyI hope that works. the replies say it worked for them17:42
Kilosill go see17:42
kbmonkeyKilos, if that fails, one can also remove the KDE settings from terminal, and when you log in gain it will recreate them per default17:44
Kiloshehe when he is online he also sukkels to switch from app to app17:44
kbmonkeyTo reset you user's KDE modificatiosn to defaults open a terminal and type: mv ~/.kde4 ~/.kde4.old17:44
kbmonkeylog off and log back in, KDE will restore the desktop with defaults17:45
Kiloswe tried that17:45
Kilosand lots more17:45
Kilostried another user but same17:45
kbmonkeyah. did he try to apt install kubuntu-desktop?17:46
Kilosyes17:46
Kilosand all the plasma stuffs17:46
Kilosand lots more17:46
Kilosbut i dunno what app controls the panel17:46
Kilosits like panel has been purged17:47
kbmonkeywe need someone else with kubuntu17:48
kbmonkeyto check if the panel is bundles with kubuntu-desktop17:48
Kilosthe pro helped already17:48
Kilosi been on my kde as well17:48
kbmonkeykde is really overcomplicated if you ask me17:48
Kilosonly when you break stuff17:49
Kilosmy 12.04 runs lekker17:49
kbmonkeythe easy way is to reinstall the os17:50
kbmonkeyit probably can be fixed by hand17:50
Kiloswith a hammer17:51
kbmonkeybut I would not bother as it sounds like he been sukkling and tried so much of things17:51
Kiloshehe17:54
KilosDeonP, what did they tell you to do17:56
DeonPi need appropriate firewall setup17:58
SilverCodeKilos: plasma-desktop is usually what is responsible for the "tak bar"17:58
SilverCode*task bar17:58
SilverCodeKilos: but you need to make sure kwin is starting first17:58
Kilosive looked in my kubuntu-full installation and told him to install all the plasma packages mine shows as installed in muon18:01
Kiloshow do you see if kwin is starting?18:03
kbmonkeyCtrl+ESC or similar to bring up running processes?18:03
SilverCodewell the most obvious indicator is that there are window decorations18:04
SilverCodebut I assume there are no windows opening up18:04
Kiloshe can open konsole and  from there pidgin and skype etc18:04
SilverCodeah18:04
SilverCodeare the minimize and maximize buttons on those windows?18:04
Kilosi dunno and hes off now18:05
Kilossigh18:05
SilverCodewell, if there are, then it means kwin is running18:05
kbmonkeysigh18:05
Kilosyeah pidgin shows its own minimise button18:05
SilverCodewhich means he should try running plasma-desktop from the console18:06
Kilosoh ok18:06
SilverCodeplasma-desktop is responisble for all the widgets in kde, including things like the panles18:06
Kilosaha18:06
DeonPl8r folks18:07
Kiloscheers deo18:08
Kilosai!\18:08
kbmonkeyoh he's gone, alright18:10
kbmonkeywell this is why I prefer a minimal window manager XD18:10
Kilosya when he gets home hes pooped 18:10
kbmonkeywho needs bling when you have stability18:10
kbmonkeyplus my window manager I compile myself18:11
Kilosi think i got him to install fbpanel too but that dont show either18:11
kbmonkeybut thats overkill for every normal person. lol18:11
nuvolario/18:20
nuvolariI'm hungary18:20
Kiloslol hi nuvolari 18:21
nuvolarihi oom Kilos :D18:21
nuvolariek is nou-nou terug, gou my ouers bietjie bel :P18:21
Kilosyo SilverCode he popped in and i told him to run plasma-desktop from konsole and its fixed ty18:23
Kilosok18:23
kbmonkeysorry I am suddenly so quiet Kilos - updating my CV18:24
kbmonkeyand my site that hosts it18:24
Kilosnp kbmonkey 18:24
kbmonkeythen I have to hunt down that darn irp5 form - it got legs !18:25
Kiloshere is what that found18:25
Kiloshttp://slexy.org/view/s21TlJmTCv18:25
Kiloseish dont lose it18:25
kbmonkeyunversioned plugin detected, may result in instability18:27
kbmonkeysuspicious ^18:27
nuvolarikbmonkey: librejs?18:27
kbmonkeyalso, many DBus erros, perhaps DBus needs to be installed again18:27
* nuvolari still need to try that out18:27
kbmonkeyhallo nuvolari - no that was from oom Kilos pasting a kde startup command 18:28
nuvolariooh :P18:28
kbmonkeythe kde panels are not showing up :P18:28
kbmonkeyja I wana try librejs too!18:28
kbmonkeythanks for reminding me!18:28
kbmonkeythought I'd go the whole mile and use it with the IceCat browser too18:28
nuvolaribrr! nippy in ballito tonight :-/18:29
nuvolariok, bbiab for real18:29
Kiloshehe18:29
kbmonkeylol18:29
Kilos2 weeks of sukkeling sorted18:29
Kilosinetpro, dis reg uiteindelik18:30
Kilospersonally i would reinstalled long ago18:30
Kilosbut he aint got time and all work on the lappy18:31
kbmonkeyeish18:33
kbmonkeyis home its own partition?18:33
kbmonkeybackup in install xubuntu 18:33
kbmonkeyor gnome18:34
Kilosi think its an install without partitioning18:34
Kilosdefault install18:34
Kiloswhen i get hold of the lappy sometime ill part the drive lekker and install for him18:34
Kilosand make rsyncs of everything first18:35
smilebye! :)18:36
Kilosnight smnil18:36
Kilossmile, too18:36
kbmonkeybye!18:36
smilethanks18:36
smile:)18:37
kbmonkeyKilos, lunch time today I hit the gym. got a good work on the upper body.18:41
kbmonkeyironmonkey lol18:41
Kilosand when do you eat?18:41
kbmonkeyI eat after and before18:41
Kilosdont get muscle bound then you battle to type18:42
kbmonkeyha ha18:42
inetproKilos: well done!19:03
Kilosnot me SilverCode he be the clever oke19:03
inetprosometimes you need to learn to be patient and find the real problem19:03
Kilosi had him install everything plasma related that i have in my kde19:04
inetprothese things they don't just break by themselves19:04
Kilosbut just running plasma-desktop from cli worked19:04
inetpronow tell him to do what he did to break it19:05
inetproagain19:05
Kiloslol19:05
inetproso he can understand what he did :-)19:05
Kiloshe says i must thank all of you for the help19:05
Kilosno man he aint got time to go through all of this again19:05
inetprocan he still not login to freenode?19:05
Kilosi dunno how he has managed to get any work done all from cli19:06
Kilosyes he can19:06
inetproahh, so why you being the third party here?19:06
Kilosbut he is poegaai most of the time19:06
Kilosbecause he woulda just carried on struggling19:07
inetproai!19:07
Kilosi nag till its fixed19:07
inetprohe must learn to be persistent like you man19:07
Kilosa few times he has said please leave it rest19:07
Kilosbut now he will sleep lekker19:08
Kilosad me too19:08
Kilosand19:08
inetprothis kind of thing won't fix itself19:08
Kilosnope but if you think of all the things we tried and looked at it was major work19:09
superflythings don't normally break themselves either...19:09
Kilosand my fault im sure19:09
Kiloshehe19:09
inetprosuperfly: I already said that :-)19:09
inetprowb superfly19:09
superfly[21:04:33] <inetpro> these things they don't just break by themselves19:09
superflyah, there19:09
inetprosuperfly: how's the family?19:10
nuvolariyum, home 'made' pizza19:10
nuvolariI heated it myself :P19:10
Kilosbefore you showed me he must mail freenode i just kept telling him remove this then check if you can login to freenode then remove that and check19:10
superflywife is not feeling great (not that I'm brilliant either) but I've been looking after the kids19:10
inetprohmm...19:10
inetprolook after yourself man19:10
Kiloseish get well soon flies of ours19:11
inetproif you don't look after yourself you can not look after the family19:11
inetprogo to the gym or find something to give the body a workout so it can fix itself19:13
Kilosswim19:13
inetproor run up and down the stairs19:13
Kilosswimming is the most healthy exercise and makes you breathe properly as well19:14
Kiloshehe or run around the block19:14
Kilosthen kick it under the bed19:14
inetproai!19:14
superflyYou're talking about exercise to the wrong person. I abhor exercise.19:16
inetproyikes!19:17
* inetpro knows the feeling19:18
inetprobut you have to find something19:18
Kilosyoga and health19:18
Kiloslearn to breathe properly19:19
inetproor go cycling19:19
Kilosthats exercise19:19
inetprono man, do it for the fun19:19
Kilosthats why we invented motor bikes19:20
Kilosoh inetpro when you first taught me about at19:22
inetproKilos: yes?19:22
Kilosdidnt you work out how i could use it for updates without the password hassle19:22
inetprouh?19:22
inetprono19:23
Kilosthat cron thing is even harder work19:23
Kilosyou sure19:23
Kiloswas it only for wget19:23
nuvolarihah, what do we need to help out a mac in a makeover?19:24
nuvolarikbmonkey: ^^19:24
inetpronuvolari: you in the wrong channel?19:24
nuvolariinetpro: nope19:24
Kiloslol19:24
inetproKilos: I don't think I mentioned teh at command and ubuntu updates in the same context19:25
nuvolaria guy is willing to install a debian/debian based distro on his mac19:25
Kiloshmm...19:25
inetpronuvolari: we don't do macs here19:25
inetpro<duck/>19:25
Kiloswas almost sure id used it to do update upgrade back then19:25
nuvolariinetpro: we do Ubuntu19:25
nuvolariand ubuntu doesn't ask questions :P19:25
nuvolaribut I mostly agree, macs suck19:26
* inetpro still despises macs more than windows19:26
Kilosshame man weve even helped win peeps to install ubuntu here19:26
inetprothat's the real dark side19:27
Kiloscant you put ubuntu on them?19:27
inetproKilos: but even the hardware just sucks19:27
inetproand the mouse is the worst of all19:28
Kilosah19:28
nuvolaripay big bucks for little bang19:28
Kilosive never seen a mac'19:28
Kilosso you can boot from ubuntu cd and go dlete everything and install ubuntu19:29
Kiloscant19:29
superflynuvolari: pearos19:29
superflynuvolari: http://pearlinux.fr/19:30
nuvolarisuperfly: ooh, sounds edible :P I'll check it out19:30
nuvolarithanks!19:30
Kiloshehe19:30
inetproKilos: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28575/how-to-schedule-an-update19:30
* superfly is hopefully getting a new PC tomorrow19:30
superflyquad core, 8 gigs or RAM, 2TB hard drive19:30
superfly*of19:31
Kiloswow19:31
* nuvolari wipes away a tear19:31
nuvolarithat sounds so beautiful19:31
superflyinsurance paid out for my servers being wiped out by lightning19:31
inetpro:-)19:31
Kilosthat sound really great19:31
inetprosuperfly: sounds like nice hardware19:32
nuvolarihmm.. discover pearlinux... and boom. HTTP/40419:32
superflyinetpro: entry level, really19:32
superflyjust a little bit of extra here and there19:32
Kilosno man inetpro i said earlier cron is even harder work 19:32
Kiloswhew19:33
nuvolariack, having a very bad first impression of pear :-/ website has more missing pages than working ones19:34
Kilosif i can stay awake ill get www.elementaryos.org tonight19:35
inetproKilos: A short introduction to cron-apt http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/16219:35
nuvolarihttp://pear.prophecy.li/ now we're talking!19:36
Kilosi looked at 2 sites today inetpro for newbies to cron and updating with it19:36
Kilosdunno nebies to what they write for19:37
Kilosnewbies19:38
* inetpro just installed cron-apt for the first time19:38
superflynuvolari: wow, the last time I looked it worked19:38
inetproKilos: looks like there's nothing to do19:39
inetproby default it will run at 4:00 every morning19:39
Kiloshuh?19:39
Kilosi dont want that man19:39
Kilosi turn of all updates and auto upgrades etc19:40
Kilosoff19:40
nuvolarisuperfly: that other link's website is making an impression19:40
superflynuvolari: looks like they're going to upgrade the site when they release PearOS 8?19:40
inetproKilos: you started this19:41
Kilosai!19:41
Kilosit needs to work with at19:41
Kilosthats understandable19:41
inetprono man19:41
inetpro11/09 21:22:40 <Kilos> didnt you work out how i could use it for updates without the password hassle19:42
inetproKilos: explain that ^^19:42
Kilosoh ya didnt you19:42
Kiloshave i never done update upgrade with at?19:43
inetproKilos: you just don't do it with at19:43
inetprowhy would you want to?19:43
inetprothere is cron-apt for this purpose19:43
superflynuvolari: from what I can see, PearOS is a highly customised Gnome Shell19:43
Kiloswhy not sudo -i and then run the at command with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade19:44
Kiloswont that work19:44
inetproai!19:44
inetproBy default, cron-apt will only download updates -- it will not install them.19:44
Kiloswhat will that break something19:44
inetproKilos: read the link above man19:46
Kilosi am19:46
inetprostart from the top and go from left to right19:46
Kilosgrrr19:47
inetprothen keep going until you have reached the bottom of the page :-)19:47
inetprothat's how you read a man page as well19:48
Kilosyou mean that script inetpro ?19:52
inetproKilos: what script are you talking about?19:52
Kilosif [[ `apt-get update 2>&1 | grep Get` ]]; then19:53
Kilos  if [[ `apt-get --simulate dist-upgrade 2>&1 | grep Inst` ]]; then19:53
Kilos    apt-get --simulate dist-upgrade19:53
Kilos  fi19:53
Kilosfi19:53
Kiloswith the commands before it19:53
inetpronee man19:53
inetprothat is someone commenting on teh story19:53
inetprosome anonymous guy nogal19:54
Kilos<inetpro> then keep going until you have reached the bottom of the page :-)19:54
inetproobviously you can learn from that19:54
Kilosman ek sukkel19:54
inetproai!19:54
Kiloslearning isnt the prob remembering is19:54
inetproKilos: don't do stuff that you don't understand what they do19:55
Kilosthats why i asked about at19:55
inetproat is old man19:55
Kilosdont understand the cron stuff and having it download daily and mail me and whatever else19:56
inetprothat was mentioned by me just to introduce you to the idea of automating stuffs, back then19:56
Kilosold i good for me19:56
Kilosis19:56
inetproold can be dangerous19:56
inetprothings change, remember!?19:56
Kilosmodern stuffs need modern way of thinking brains19:56
inetproso even cron-apt needs to be looked at carefully19:57
Kilosya ill stay awake to do update/upgrades19:57
Kilosand no good saying its english if you can read it you can understand it19:58
inetproI still like the idea of con-apt and will try it out on my side19:58
inetprocron-apt as well19:58
Kilosya if you can do once only update/upgrades then fine19:59
inetprolooks like a very simple and easy solution19:59
Kilosnot daily19:59
Kilosand no mailing19:59
inetproai!19:59
magespawnhowdy all20:16
Kiloshi magespawn 20:16
magespawneveryone still awake20:19
Kiloslooks like20:19
Kilosno one said night yet'20:19
Kilosi wanna get that fast iso20:21
Kiloswww.elementaryos.org20:21
Kilosif it will work with 12.04 .deb packages thats good20:21
magespawnnew software again?20:22
Kiloswell everything is working here20:22
Kilosand lpi is hard work so i need to do something relaxing20:22
magespawndifferent way to relax, not waht most people would consider20:25
magespawnwhat as well20:25
Kiloshehe20:25
magespawni am busy reading the Asterisk manual20:25
Kilosah i wanna know about that sometime20:25
Kiloshow do they connect fones to the pc with it running20:26
magespawnthere is a pci phone card in the computer20:27
Kilosaah20:27
superflyI write code to relax20:28
superflyoh wait, I write code to work too20:28
Kiloslol20:28
superflyhrm, now I'm confused20:28
Kiloswhy?20:28
magespawnbe careful, the lure of the dark side is powerful20:28
magespawnhe does not know when he is working or relaxing20:29
Kiloshahaha20:29
magespawnor doing both at the same time20:29
Kilosi still dont understand 2 same keyboards to the pc20:30
Kilosthey both type to the same place so why?20:30
Kilosdifferent if one worked to pidgin for right hand and one to xchat for left hand20:31
magespawnwhy? who has that set up?20:33
Kilosthe fly20:33
magespawnthe best way to find out is to ask him, it might well be for two seperate programs or two different areas of the same program20:38
magespawnnever tried that20:38
Kilosi have but he just said he uses both20:39
magespawnwell that is a good a reason as any other 20:42
Kiloshahaha20:42
Kilosi need some help i dont see where to download that os20:42
Kiloswww.elementaryos.org20:43
Kiloswhat am i missing20:43
Kilosoh i found it sorry20:44
Kilossigh20:44
Kilosright nerar the top20:44
Kilosnear20:44
magespawnno worries20:47
magespawnis it that time already?20:47
Kilosnearly20:47
Kilos13 mins more20:47
magespawnheck i should be in bed20:48
Kilosya 20:48
Kilosgo sleep20:49
Kilosnight magespawn 20:49
Kiloswork tomorrow20:49
magespawnyes but have a few things to finish first20:50
Kilosnight all. sleep tight21:16
magespawnand hes of to bed before me21:18
magespawngood night21:19
inetprogood night21:22

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