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Brisperewilee-nilee, i still cant find it, I have 2 hard drives but those fixes dont apply to me as i simply cannot find the uefi path00:00
nimbioticshello what is a good channel to ask questions about ssh?00:03
nimbioticsgot it00:04
wilee-nileeBrispere, I doubt you will get any timely are even accurate help here though. uefi is a bit of a mess per manufacturers versions00:05
Brisperealright00:05
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Levi__hello00:35
dr_willishowdys00:37
reisio'lo00:37
Levi__so does anybody questions i could answer00:39
dr_willisso far.. its been quiet... too quiet.00:40
Levi__yes yes it has00:40
reisioa little too Raph00:40
Levi__but thats kind of good that there is no problems with ubuntu00:41
mr-blahcan erase the windos efi bootloader, and just install grub over it?00:45
mr-blahI can get the grub menu fr some reason00:46
Levi__are you using mac00:46
mr-blahusin a pc00:46
Levi__windows does not use efi00:46
mr-blahoh00:46
wilee-nileemr-blah, This a W8 OEM install originally?00:46
Levi__are you dualbooting00:47
mr-blahit's windows 700:47
mr-blahyes dual boot00:47
wilee-nileemr-blah, Okay a OEM uefi?00:47
mr-blahi think so00:47
wilee-nileemr-blah, The uefi is in the chip and bios most likely.00:48
mr-blahit has a fat32 partition, and a ntfs one00:48
mr-blahit will install ubuntu, but the grub menu does not coe up. it goes straight to windows :(00:48
Levi__what is the fat 32 for00:48
mr-blahi think the fat32 is the boo loader00:49
Levi__oh00:49
wilee-nileemr-blah, Have you seen the uefi bot link?00:49
mr-blahwhere is that?00:49
Levi__you might have to wipe out windows and ubuntu and reinstall it00:49
wilee-nilee!uefi | mr-blah right here.00:49
ubottumr-blah right here.: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI00:49
wilee-nileeLevi__, You are not even close, don't just suggest what you have no idea in.00:50
Levi__ok srry00:50
wilee-nileeLevi__, Be glad to give you bricking advice if you like. ;)00:51
Levi__ok thanks i guess00:51
Levi__so00:52
dr_willisim planing on waiting a long time befor i buy my next pc. or build my own. with all this uefi confusion goin gon right now.  ;)00:52
Levi__if your computer is uefi dont you install with a 64bit ubuntu os00:53
mr-blahthis is gonna tak forever00:53
wilee-nileemr-blah, This is good thread to be aware of as well, and this mod specifically. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729500:54
mr-blahit says uefi enabled00:54
reisiodr_willis: well if you bought/assembled your own, it would lack confusion00:56
reisiothe confusion is in the randomness you get with a random prebuilt computer00:56
reisioin fact, if you build your own, it needn't even have UEFI00:56
reisiostill plenty of competitive hardware without it00:56
reisioand probably will be for years and years and years00:56
wilee-nileeI would not mind it if there was a standard release, not the per manufacturers versions, gpt is not a bad thing as far a a by product00:58
dr_williswaiting for that 'steam box'  ;) but havent heard anyuthing about it recently00:58
mr-blahug00:59
mr-blahi hate this01:00
reisioyeah gpt is irrelevant01:00
reisionothing to it01:00
reisioand there'd be nothing to UEFI if it were implemented in a standardized way01:00
reisioalthough it would still be not a particular improvement over BIOS01:00
mr-blahso the uefi partition is the fat32 one?01:00
mr-blahi'm just gonna wipe the whole machine01:01
mr-blahthis is tpp annoying01:01
aespinozaHi guys...01:08
aespinozadoes anyone know if dual graphics cards are supported in linux ? My laptop has 2 graphics cards to improve battery usage.01:09
wilee-nileeaespinoza, Not a new issue state the graphic hardware and your problems to the channel.01:11
reisioaespinoza: yes, to varying degrees01:12
reisioaespinoza: do a search for your laptop model and "linux" and "graphics"01:12
Delapenaa01:21
mr-blahguys, seriuosly. this laptop says uefi enabled, and it won't go into the grub menu01:22
Delapenaaespinoza: yes they are but it's completely dependent on model and driver availability01:22
mr-blahdo i need to disable uefi or what01:23
Delapenamr-blah: have you tried spamming F901:23
mr-blahDelapena: what does that do01:24
Delapenaon my computer it forces grub to appear01:25
Delapenai had an issue somewhat similar to that one01:25
adzyZFS question: is it normal for txg_sync to be writing to disk every 5 seconds? I've had this pool running for a week, and this is the first time I've noticed it01:25
aespinozaDelapena: Do you know any site where I can find out if my drivers are supported ?01:26
* wilee-nilee waits for the country song "I thought you were a chicken, but you're really uefi"01:26
Delapenaaespinoza: what cards ya got? should be able to do what the other guy said and just google the names with the linux after it01:27
Delapena!whois aawoods01:28
mkI'd like to image a disk with ubuntu and win partitions, wipe it, and then potentially clone the image onto another disk (or the same disk)01:29
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics01:29
mkwhat is the best way to do this?01:30
mr-blahhey thanks guys. i think i can fix it with tht info01:30
mr-blahDelapena: thanks01:30
OerHeks!clone01:30
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this may cause problems with multiarch before 12.10) - See also !automate01:30
wilee-nileemk, This a standard HD set up no uefi? Do you want it on a same size or bigger or smaller HD, besides the original?01:31
mknot package replication. The other partition is windows. I want a data copy01:31
wilee-nileemk, Image suggests cloning.01:32
mkwilee-nilee: I'd guess no uefi, it's on an older laptop. I'd be happy if I can get it cloned back to the exact same drive01:33
wilee-nileemk, I use clonezilla for most cloning, is limited to a equal or larger space put back to, and can have parttion numbers changed in the save if different on the reload.01:34
wilee-nileesaves the mbr kinda handy01:35
mkwilee-nilee: can I run that without setting up a boot disk or usb?01:35
mkideally, I'd like to place the image onto the very same drive, then ftp it out01:35
wilee-nileenope you need a boot disc or usb in general.01:35
jupilotropoyClonezilla is one of the essential tools in my kit (I'm a PC technician)01:36
mkhmm, would be nice if there were an on-reboot variant01:36
mkwill I be able to place the image onto the same hd?01:37
wilee-nileemk, only limited by space returned to be equal or larger that the original.01:37
wilee-nileethan*01:38
mkwilee-nilee: oh, sorry - I mean, while doing the clone from usb, or will I need to place the image onto the usb (not enough space there)01:38
wilee-nileemk, Has to go somewhere it is in packages, I use an externa;01:38
mkI don't have access to my external. Any other way to do it, like making another partition? I guess the main thing I'm worried about is getting the win install back on in good shape, because it would be a pain to re-install, and the nix I could do with even just copying the home dir01:41
wilee-nileemk, Clonezilla just saves the data so if you had a partition that is large enough you could use the HD.01:42
wilee-nileeDoes not save the partition size amount just the data in it.01:42
TsarObombaAnyone know if goog;le music puts drm on your music after you upload?01:42
Agrephahelp me get sound through ubuntu 13.04 hdmi connection through flatscreen01:43
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TsarObombalike id you use google music manager, it gives you a choice of redownloading all songs or just the ones you bought01:43
TsarObombawhich made me leary about drm01:43
TsarObombabut im downloading over 3K songs anyway...01:43
TsarObombahmm, guess not. looks like normal mp3 no drm01:44
mkI've had a problem getting a copied win partition to boot in the past after copy - can I expect clonezilla to create exactly the same partition (or larger), and the bootloader to pick it up properly?01:45
wilee-nileemk, You can create the partition, and use clonezilla to load it, however I think you can have it do a full HD reload without making partitions. I have seen people have problems when they have the partitions full, and not organized...IE defragged...etc01:47
wilee-nileenever had a problem myself, but I am careful how I do this.01:48
wilee-nileemk, What is athe windows release, everyone since XP has a built in imager.01:48
airtonixgoogle chrome keeps opening itself . !!!!!!111111oneoneoen1111oneonepony1111!!01:49
mkwilee-nilee: post-xp. Could it image itself onto itself? It cant write to ext...01:50
ntzrmtthihu777heyo! any info on xorg.conf.d configurations to bind scroll wheel motion to a joypad button (not axis, doing that doesn't quite work for the keys I have in mind. the l2 and r2 axes start at -30000 or so, and that makes it autoscroll when the key is not depressed, so I want to try binding it to the the l/r-2 *button*, not the axes)01:50
mkairtonix: try #chrome01:51
ntzrmtthihu777or, barring that a better way to bind it to an axis? Its a sixaxis ps3 pad01:51
airtonixmk it actually only started happening when i re-enabled gdm instead of lightdm01:52
wilee-nileemk, No, I think you need read up on imaging, what is the issue that has you needing to do this?01:52
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mkwilee-nilee: I have a win and a nix partition. I want to back them both up, and put them back into place in a month, but without wasting my time dealing with boot issues01:55
wilee-nileemk, Then get a external and image the whole HD, I'm not really into helping on a restricted tool environment.01:56
NedsFlamDoes anyone here know of a channel for electical engineering?01:56
ntzrmtthihu777!alis01:56
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*01:57
Avgva2hey guys01:57
NedsFlamthanks ntzrmtthihu77701:57
mcmanus_hey, question for you all- are IRC channels persistent, or are new users only able to see posts after they've joined?01:57
ltrottiersingle touch works on my Quanta device. any advice for getting multitouch working?01:58
ltrottierhave googled about, and not much is forthcoming01:58
mkwilee-nilee: I don't have access to my external. It should be easier for me to clone a disk than it is for me to just go out and buy a second disk.01:59
AntORGmcmanus_, you only see what was posted after your joined. There are online logs somewhere though.01:59
mkmcmanus_: that's a question for #freenode . Most have logging, so your messages are permanent.02:00
ntzrmtthihu777ltrottier: what quanta device?02:00
mcmanus_AntORG & mk- thanks, i'll ask over there02:00
ltrottierOpticalTouchScreen02:00
ltrottierViewSonic TD222002:01
ntzrmtthihu777ltrottier: what machine it come on?02:01
ltrottierntzrmtthihu777: the docs seem pretty out of date02:02
ltrottieris there some setting, on some panel somewhere, where I just need to turn it on?02:03
parallelshello all02:04
parallels?02:04
dayawhat is the role of PE on creating LVM; Could I have more that 8 TB with default 4MB P02:04
parallelshow can I upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04?02:05
dayaparallels: First upgrade to 12.10 and then 13.0402:06
parallelsdaya how do I do that because I'm using paralles on my iMac02:07
dr_willis!upgrade02:07
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade02:07
dr_willisuse the 'do-release-upgrade' tool02:07
dayaparallels: yeah follow the above link02:07
parallelsI went to the terminal and I type  sudo apt-get upgrade and it's not upgrading to 12.1002:07
dr_willisparallels:  thats because that is NOT what that command does02:08
dayaapt-get dist upgrade possibly work02:08
dr_willisthats not what dist-upgrade does wither02:08
dr_williseither02:08
dr_willisagain  --> 'do-release-upgrade' with the proper options  to upgrade to the next release02:08
parallelscan I upgrade from the terminal or do I have to download the 12.10 version?02:08
dr_willisparallels:  read the url the bot gave above02:09
green_geeky_dude(Wonders if e has upgrades set to LTS only)02:09
dr_willisYou will need to tell it to upgrade to the non-lts release with an option02:09
dayadr_willis: Any idea about LVM PE?02:09
dr_willisit might be much faster to just do a clean install02:09
dr_willisdaya:  i dont usse LVM - so nope.02:09
dayadr_willis: ok no prob02:10
al_laHi all, a quick question: I use virtualbox; there is a problem with starting virtual machines and the only workaround I've found is ensuring linux headers and headers generic are installed for the kernel I'm on which seems to solve it.  Every time a kernel update comes out I have to install the new linux-headers-3.x.x-xx and linux-headers.3.x.x-xx-generic.  Is there any reason to keep the old ones?  Or for that matter, all of the old linux-im02:10
al_laage-extra-3.x.x-xx-generic files?02:10
ltrottierntzrmtthihu777: geistest says "error subscribing to gestures"02:11
Shaunt_Hello everyone, I've created a bootable usb for Ubuntu 13.10, however I don't know how to boot with it because my laptop is currently running Ubuntu 13.04. Can anyone tell me how to do this?02:11
ltrottiererror subscribing window02:11
jribal_la: how did you install vbox?02:11
al_lajrib: ubuntu software manager02:11
jribal_la: are you using dkms?02:12
dr_willisShaunt_:  tell the pc to boot the usb via its bios. or whatever special key  you hit at boot time ti seledt the boot device02:12
dr_willisto select the boot device..  ;)   often, esc, del, f1 o2 f8 or f902:12
dr_willisthe os on the laptop - shouldent matter. since you are teling the bios what to do. befor the os boots02:13
toddaarocan anyone help me with xorg problems? I have an i7-3770k with integrated graphics in addition to my discrete amd card, and the integrated graphics are confusing the hell out of ubuntu. currently stuck at x segfaulting: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/302149502:13
al_lajrib: I don't know exactly ... still somewhat novice.  What is dkms?02:13
Shaunt_dr_willis: Does this apply to computers who's default OS is already Ubuntu? Because I don't see any boot selection options when I start up my laptop.02:13
ltrottieranyone have advice on getting a Quanta OpticalTouchScreen device working (ViewSonic TD2220) ?02:14
jribal_la: dkms automatically rebuilds kernel modules when you upgrade your kernel.  Try « dkms status »02:14
al_lajrib: installed for several kernel versions it appears02:15
dr_willisltrottier:  i often look at the archlinux wiki pages for new/unusual hardware. they often have some goood guides - but not all of it will apply to ubuntu02:15
ltrottierdr_willis: checking ..02:16
jribal_la: the virtualbox module is or what?  dkms does more than just virtualbox02:18
ltrottierdr_willis: well, single touch should do the job for now ...02:23
al_lajrib: virtualbox, 4.2.10, 3.8.0-19-generic, x86_64: installed02:23
al_lajrib: several lines like that for different kernel versions02:24
jribal_la: sure, you can remove old headers and old kernels.  You shouldn't have to install new headers for your new kernel manually though. Just make sure you have the right meta-package installed for them02:24
ntzrmtthihu777ltrottier: hmm. What DE you using/02:25
ltrottierDE?02:25
al_lajrib: sorry, again novice here.  What does that mean to have the right meta-package?02:25
ltrottierDesktop environment? unity02:25
ntzrmtthihu777ltrottier: desktop environment02:25
ltrottierntzrmtthihu777: unity02:26
shauntSorry, I was kicked off earlier.02:26
ltrottierntzrmtthihu777: everything is basically standard. 13.0402:26
ntzrmtthihu777ltrottier: unity snatches all gestures, so you can't remap occupied stuffs, without patching unity and removing the default gestures02:26
al_lajrib: brb, rebooting02:26
jriberm02:27
ltrottierntzrmtthihu777: that's lame. I can't just turn off gesture-snatching?02:27
ntzrmtthihu777ltrottier: can't give you much more info, I just made the jump from *buntu to arch linux, so I can't give you explicit details.02:27
ntzrmtthihu777ltrottier: nope, take it up with canonical02:27
ltrottierntzrmtthihu777: hmm k. thanks, though02:27
csffscHello02:28
ntzrmtthihu777ltrottier: it an easy patch, just commenting out a section, but recompiling and reinstalling unity is a long, cpu intensive process02:28
csffscI'm in the process of installing Ubuntu 13.04 from a live 'usb' stick02:28
ntzrmtthihu777csffsc: and your problem is?02:29
ltrottierntzrmtthihu777: yeah. k. hm.02:29
csffscbooted in, ran the install program, after 3 or 4 minutes - the install program reports back that an operating system is not detected02:29
ltrottierI could just use a different DE02:29
ltrottierI really don't give a crap one way or the other02:29
csffscIt's a 128gb ssd, with windows 7 on it.. about 70gb is free02:29
csffscWindows 7 isn't uefi.. it's ACHI (AHCI?)02:30
ntzrmtthihu777csffsc: plenty of room,02:30
csffscI agree the is plenty of room, however I was hoping to dualboot02:30
LinuxGoldrun Win 7 inside linux host02:31
ntzrmtthihu777ltrottier: try lxde, or xfce, lightweight and highly configureable. you'll need to install touchegg, but its in the repos, and the config file is pretty simple to understand.02:31
rscntsomeone needs help?02:31
ntzrmtthihu777csffsc: again, plenty of room, even for a dual boot02:31
toddaaroanyone able to help with an xorg segfault on startup? http://pastebin.com/zCa0j8cK02:32
rscntof course02:32
csffscThe Installation program does not recognize the windows 7 installation02:32
csffscin the past, ubuntu has recongized windows installations, and provided an option to 'install alongside'02:32
toddaarorscnt: yay, the core of the issue is probably that this machine has an ivy bridge chip with graphics, but I'm trying to use an amd card instead02:32
nerdtronmorning02:33
wilee-nileecsffsc, does windows show in gparted?02:33
ltrottierntzrmtthihu777: k, will keep in mind. hopefully single touch will do for now ...02:33
al_lajrib: back, sry02:34
jribal_la: you probably want linux-headers-generic installed assuming that corresponds to your kernel02:34
ntzrmtthihu777ltrottier: google the device number of your device, it may be informmative. I had to install custom firmaware for my n-trig touch screen.02:34
ltrottierntzrmtthihu777: hm. good thought.02:35
ntzrmtthihu777ltrottier: I now have 4 (or was it 5?) detected touch points.02:35
ltrottieroh nice.02:35
al_lajrib: right, vbox starts with errors unless I install the linux-headers-generic, then every time the kernel updates I have to manually install the new ones.02:35
csffscJust opened Gparted.  Got an interesting Prompt: /dev/sdA: contains GPT signatures, indicating there is a GPT table, however it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should.  Perhaps it was currupted .  Or perhaps the gpt table was deleted and are now using an ms dos partition table.  [Is this a GPT partition Table Yes/NO]02:35
jribal_la: no, "linux-headers-generic" is a single package that automatically installes the headers for newer kernels02:35
csffscThe windows 7 installation was orginally installed with the bios setup in IDE mode, I then reconfigured it to ACHI.02:36
al_lajrib: oh snap02:36
csffscI'm not sure if that impacts the tables.02:36
al_lajrib: does it automatically remove old as well?02:37
wilee-nileecsffsc, I have seen people on here with oem W7 installs that were uefi, the fastboot windows thing with gpt partitioning, generally we see this with W8 oem's.02:37
csffscToday I reinstalled windows 7, and updated all of my firmware02:38
csffscmy motherboard had some itneresting intel fast boot crap added to it02:38
wilee-nileecsffsc, Sounds like you have the uefi on board, how did you reinstall? use nicks as well here.02:39
csffscThe only uefi on board is from the USB thumbdrive (for ubuntu 13.04)02:39
csffscf11 brings me to boot order, UEFI is prefixed infront of the thumbdrive, thats it02:40
wilee-nileecsffsc, The fastboot stuff is the actual uefi, ubuntu has options to install on it02:40
ntzrmtthihu777csffsc: make a backup using windows tools, install ubuntu, restore windows?02:40
wilee-nilee!uefi | csffsc take a look here02:41
ubottucsffsc take a look here: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI02:41
csffscWilee-nillee, sorry about that.  I found this thread:  last post first page. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161938102:41
csffschow the f do nicks work02:41
wilee-nileecsffsc, You can tab complete nicks02:41
csffscwilee-nilee: gotcha02:41
wilee-nileethats it you got it. ;)02:42
al_lajrib: installed, I think this will make life much simpler and I'll just manually remove periodically.  Thanks for the info.02:43
ntzrmtthihu777tab completion is the greatest thing since sliced bread XD02:44
wilee-nileecsffsc, I'm not real up on uefi so I generally try to just get people relevant info. Since you have reinstalled W7 you want to make sure anyone helping understands all this and is not helping just to suit there own needs first. here is another thread on uefi. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729502:44
csffscwilee-nilee: the windows install is fresh / doesnt have anything important on it.  Last night I actually started out by formatting the SSD, and then trying to install Ubuntu via the live usb.  I couldn't get past the UEFI issues02:46
csffscwilee-nilee: I did a total of (3) fresh installs, one of them completed fully, and let me boot into linux once, the rest had errors during the installation process02:46
csffscwilee-nilee: tried both 12.10 & 13.0402:47
wilee-nileecsffsc, That thread author is the best help I have seen, I used to be on the forum and learned a great deal from them on dualbooting and grub in general. They will help you out if needed if you start a thread there. I think your windows install is good, you just need the right help in getting the ubuntu on there, If it were me I would use their help.02:47
csffscwilee-nilee: okay, I'll read thi.02:47
csffsc8s02:47
Q_Continuum12.04 - I switched to a different terminal (TTY1) and then back to X and X isn't accepting any input (keys or mouse) except to leave the TTY again.02:48
LinuxGoldif I changed something in sshd_config, do I need to restart sshd?02:48
wilee-nileecsffsc, There are people here as well, but not on all the time, many if us have avoided this area if we can.02:48
Q_ContinuumLinuxGold: Config files are generally read on startup, so yes you would need to restart the service for changes to take effect.02:48
LinuxGoldthanks02:48
csffscwilee-nilee: why do you avoid this area?02:49
jribLinuxGold: you can just run "reload" I think.02:49
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jribLinuxGold: « sudo reload ssh »02:50
Q_Continuum12.04 - how can I reset my X session when it hangs?02:50
Q_Continuum(Switched to TTY1 and TTY7 no longer takes input at all except to leave TTY7)02:50
wilee-nileecsffsc, I have not had a uefi computer yet for one, and the manufacturers have their own versions/tweaks of it, so there are not any real empirical fixes, it is a bit of a hit and miss for some. There are some methods people work through, just not as cut and dry as a msdos set up ia all.02:51
csffscwilee-nilee: I so far prefer the ease of vmware installs..02:52
mrrcpHowdy02:52
sordidbasshola02:53
wilee-nileecsffsc, Mainly I do not want to brick someone else’s setup, so inspite of my nick I'm very careful.02:53
mrrcpbrick02:53
wilee-nileethick as a brick ;)02:53
csffscwilee-nilee: I'm fairly certian it'll get bricked again going thru the uefi roulette.. luckily I'm doing all of this to a spare system02:54
al_laHi all, quick question:  I'm about to upgrade hard drives but want to keep my installation.  My plan: plug in old and new, boot to live disk, copy partitions over w/ gparted, install grub on new drive, restart with only new.   Any major flaws in this plan?02:55
electricprismhow do i disable the "screenshot" screen prior to launching an app?02:55
D-Chymera1hi guys, I have an external hdd over here which I plugged into a printing machine that prints directly over USB. I suspect that just messed the start of my volume a bit. I remember I ran some command which printed some output that very much looked like my files from that volume - any idea how I could search for partitions?02:56
wilee-nileeal_la, That will work, the partitions just have to be equal in size or bigger is all.02:56
wilee-nileeal_la, Copy and paste to save the original.02:57
sordidbassal_la: you could do that, a tool like acronis may be a bit easier to use though02:57
wilee-nileeacronis is nice for windows, does it have alinux version?02:57
sordidbassthe acronis boot cd will clone drives at the block level, a much better option than simply copying stuff at the filesystem level02:58
electricprismhas anyone here got league of legends working?02:58
bjrohanwilee-nilee: does linux really need a version of Acronis?02:59
wilee-nileebjrohan, Did I say it does, the user mentions no windows install to speak of just wants to know if gparted will work.03:00
wilee-nileeI would use clonezilla03:00
L-Chymera1hi guys, no advice on recovering my ntfs partition?03:01
mrrcpL-Chymera1: what happened03:01
wilee-nileesordidbass, Cool I was not sure is all, I use another generally.03:02
bjrohanwilee-nilee: I just figured with as versatile as Linux is from the get go, I wouldn't think Acronis would spend time making anything for Linux. If Linux were more "mainstream" perhaps, so they could make easy money03:02
electricprismL-Chymera1: If the data is valuable I recommend immediately making a dd image on an extra hdd03:02
bjrohan:-)03:02
L-Chymera1electricprism: already did that ;)03:02
L-Chymera1mrrcp: I think a printer I connected directly to it messed up the start of my olume03:03
L-Chymera1*volume03:03
sordidbassdon't any of you realize that the acronis boot cd is linux based?03:03
wilee-nileeL-Chymera1, People commonly use testdisk for recovery03:03
electricprismL-Chymera1: Well, you could always use DIY GetNTFSDataBack through wine to get a folder / file listing it'll take about 6 - 24 hours to complete the NTFS table scan03:04
sordidbassi've used testdisk several times to great effect.03:04
wilee-nileesordidbass, Sorry man with millions of applications we don;t know everyones and it specificities. ;)03:04
L-Chymera1electricprism: it has 1 TB :)03:04
sordidbasswilee-nilee ;-)03:04
electricprismL-Chymera1: I've recovered a 2TB drive when windows destroyed my MBR table using that tool effectively, also because of the EXT filesystem you dont have the issues of folders longer than 256 characters when recovering so recovering on linux is better03:05
L-Chymera1electricprism: I don't have wine, and had very bad experiences with it in the past :)03:06
electricprismYou could also rebuild the MBR if that's the issue using DiskPatch3, both programs aren't free03:06
sordidbassi've used it several times to recover data. I had one drive though where the MFT got totally b0rked and testdisk wasn't able to help. Had to use GetDataBack on windows :(03:06
|Anthony|i need use echo cancellation since the builtin feature in mumble does absolutely nothing. I did pactl load-module module-echo-cancel but i don't think it's providing the correct sink and source03:06
darkangelHey does Linux users use a Linux only Internet server and windows use a windows only internet server03:06
|Anthony|how do i specify which device i want to load the module for?03:06
electricprismL-Chymera1: You can also use PlayOnLinux since it's basically the same thing but easier if that helps03:06
KonataIs there any way to disable that obnoxious sidebar thingy03:06
KonataI want to use ubuntu the way I'm used to using it03:07
electricprismL-Chymera1: Since it's a NTFS drive, the recovery tools will likely be windows centric instead of linux imo03:07
electricprismdarkangel: ?03:08
darkangeldoes Linux servers use there own Internet server and window users not use it?03:09
electricprismDNS?03:09
electricprismProxy?03:09
darkangelusers not servers03:09
electricprismDo you mean: does linux use a different network protocol across the network?03:10
|Anthony|darkangel, it would probably be better to state the issue that is making you ask that question03:10
darkangellol its just curiousness03:10
darkangelis it bad to Install Old Kernels?03:10
Mr_Mullso can anyone solve this; <?php foreach ($this->newsfeed->items as $item) :  ?>03:11
Mr_Mullits not working because of the foreach()03:12
somsipMr_Mull: you need to post the full code somewhere like ##php or stackoverflow03:15
Mr_Mullsomsip; how bout pastebin?03:17
somsipMr_Mull: that is a good way of preparing something to post in ##php03:18
Mr_Mullawe i gotta reg to join ##php03:19
Mr_Mullokay, one sec03:19
csffscIs there a way to confirm 'Startup Disk Creator' properly copied all data to a bootable thumbdrive?  I confirmed the md5 checksum upon download.. However I'm booted into this live cd (13.04), and I cannot get terminal to open03:19
csffscclick the icon, waiting icon spins for a while, then it goes away03:19
Mr_Mullo03:20
Mr_Mullthat was fail03:20
Mr_Mullhm03:20
Mr_Mullhey csffsc i get thaqt same damn problem03:20
Mr_Mullmaking a startup USB, doesn't matter what Creator i use, the USB aint working03:20
csffscMr_Mull: really confidence inspiring huh03:20
csffsc.. does it boot into the live ubuntu copy?03:21
Mr_Mullnope03:21
Mr_Mullmost i get is the "Peter anvil" etc etc03:21
Mr_MullI'll try using a dvd when i get home from work03:21
wilee-nileeMr_Mull, have you summed the ISO?03:22
csffscMr_Mull: agreed.. I would try that03:22
Mr_Mullwilee-nilee; yup03:23
wilee-nileeMr_Mull, Might be graphics driver issues, really more details would help03:23
Mr_Mulldownloaded it about 30 times this past week too03:23
wilee-nileeMr_Mull, You familiar with nomodeset?03:23
Mr_Mullwilee-nilee; i'd tell you more details03:23
Mr_Mulllike windows runs perfectly03:23
Mr_Mullnot particularly03:24
wilee-nilee!nomodeset | Mr_Mull03:24
ubottuMr_Mull: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter03:24
Mr_Mulleven tried my old 11.04 edition03:24
Mr_Mulldidn't work ._.03:24
Mr_Muller03:24
Mr_Mulli get the screen03:24
Mr_Mullsays the creator etc03:24
Mr_Mullbut stays there03:24
wilee-nileethats just unetbootin03:25
Mr_Mullyup03:25
wilee-nileemany ither loaders03:25
wilee-nilee'other03:25
sordidbassI had to use nomodeset on ubuntu 12.04 (12.04.3 has since fixed that issue) on my radeon 679003:25
Mr_Mulltried syslinux03:25
Q_ContinuumQuestion with AMD's CCC on 12.04: Is there a way to have the included screen brightness buttons talk to the CCC for FGLRX?03:25
Mr_Muller i got a pretty basic graphics card03:25
Mr_Mullnever had a problem before with it on Linux03:25
wilee-nileeMr_Mull, My guess would be graphic drivers what is the graphic card03:26
Mr_Mullonly the sound card lol03:26
* Mr_Mull facepalms03:26
Mr_Mullwilee-nilee; my laptop is a Toshiba Satellite C650D03:26
Mr_Mull1TB Internal HDD, 2GB Ram, etc etc03:26
Mr_Mullupgraded HDD, everything else is stock03:27
virgenmadreWhat is the best software that you guys think might work for remoting into another computer. This is Ubuntu to Ubuntu machines03:27
Mr_MullSSH03:27
Ben64!enter | Mr_Mull03:27
Mr_Mulllol03:27
ubottuMr_Mull: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!03:27
Mr_MullOkay Ben64 ; can you halp with php errors?03:28
csffscI've always enjoyed using MOSH for command line stuff03:28
dr_willisssh -  - the defacto tool for remote access. )03:28
csffsckeeps the connection persistant as you change ip's, or even computers03:28
Mr_MullI like terminal for command line stuff03:29
Ben64Mr_Mull: perhaps, but i'm a bit busy now, just seeing the whole page filled with your responses. #php might be a good place for help03:29
Mr_Mullcall me basic, but yeah03:29
csffscplus it doesnt wait to hear back from the server after every character (which SSH does)..03:29
Mr_MullBen64; i cant join 'em03:29
Ben64you may need to be registered03:29
researcherhow to run an application when it tends to Display text instead of executing?03:29
somsipMr_Mull: I suggested stackoverflow too03:29
|Anthony|has anyone been able to get echo cancellation to work for mumble?03:29
|Anthony|i need use echo cancellation since the builtin feature in mumble does absolutely nothing. I did pactl load-module module-echo-cancel but i don't think it's providing the correct sink and source03:29
|Anthony|how do i specify which device i want to load the module for?03:29
dr_willis!register | Mr_Mull03:29
ubottuMr_Mull: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode03:29
dr_willisMr_Mull:  many channels require your nick to be regiestered/identified03:30
wilee-nileeMr_Mull, I think that computer has nvidia graphics, the boot can be a problem at times for these depending on which ines.03:30
wilee-nileeones*03:30
Mr_Mull.. i know how to register a nick.. and set up services and IRCds and crapp03:30
Mr_Muller dude, my pc has nothing associated with nvidia03:30
Mr_MullAMD03:30
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researcher!xconfig03:31
ubottuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes03:31
sordidbass-phigh ?03:32
Mr_Mulllsomsip; ah true, i'll try them03:33
sordidbasswhat does the -phigh flag do03:33
jgkhello03:35
jgk!help03:36
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:36
jgkWhat ias a good irc client03:36
Mr_Mulllhttp://pastebin.com/H7pFSMiV there's my php problem03:36
dr_willisdepends on your needs03:37
Mr_Mullljgk; IRSSI03:37
dr_willisjgk:  i perfer weechat03:37
Mr_Mullli love it03:37
dr_willisweechat has a bigger feature set then irssi these days. but it all depends on your exact needs03:37
Q_ContinuumAMD E-300 APU: Open Source driver performance vs proprietary driver performance, thoughts?03:37
dr_willisand how much effort you want to put into learning  the client03:37
lhxwhat's the best way to get the fasted apt source? apt is donwloaded at 70Kb and I have a 2000Kb line...03:38
jgkok03:38
jgkhows xchat03:38
dr_willisjgk:  try it and decide for yourself03:38
jgkok03:38
dr_willisxchat is very popular03:38
Mr_Mulllxchat is nice03:38
dr_willisand you can get it for windows.03:38
Q_Continuumjgk: I use ssh + screen + irssi for access from anywhere; if I switched to a GUI at this point it'd probably be Quassel. (Has a client/server option); xchat and weechat are also popular.03:38
lhxxchat.... tsk tsk... learn how to irssi or weechat03:38
jgkok03:39
dr_willisweechat has an android client to connect to your existing weechat session. ;) or you can use znc03:39
wilee-nileelhx, YOu might try apt-fast03:39
dr_willisdepends on how complex you want to get03:39
jgkAn users from India/03:39
jgk?03:39
jgkand Is linux android?03:39
jgkor is Android based off Linux?03:39
lhxwilee-nilee: ty03:39
jgkthats what I'm confused on03:39
jgk Ieman03:39
FloodBot1jgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:39
somsip!ot | jgk03:39
jgkiOS and Android are UNIX based03:39
ubottujgk: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:39
dr_willisandroid runs on the linux kernel.03:39
wilee-nileelhx, No problem, there is a apt-fast ppa.03:40
dr_willisandroid is not UNIX based. its using Linux. - and linux is not the same as UNIX (they  are very similer however)03:41
jgkohhh03:41
jgkI see03:41
jgkbut I mean would it work better with a linxu distro?03:41
jgkvs iOS ?03:41
dr_williswork better? meaning what?03:42
jgkas in03:42
dr_willisgood luck getting Apples stuff working with anything other then more apple stuff03:42
jgkit has better support with syncing etc03:42
jgk?03:42
dr_willisI access my android devices via AirDroid most of the time. Or as if they were regular pcs with samba,ssh, scp and so forth03:42
jgkwhats airdroid?03:42
jgkAirdroid03:42
dr_willisthey are pcs ;)03:43
dr_willisan app for android.03:43
jgki duncan contrusction there>03:43
dr_willisAndroid is more open, and easier to wwork with for doing most things i find. expecially things that may be a little unusual.03:44
jgkok03:44
sordidbassI despise android as an end user.03:45
sordidbassas a developer its kind of nifty.03:45
dr_willisI have no issues with android whatso ever as an end user. works well for my needs03:46
dr_willisI dont bother with developing. ;)03:46
sordidbassi've had 3 android phones and they've all been terrible.03:46
sordidbasshate to say it, but the Iphone 4, 4s and 5 I had always just 'worked'03:47
jgkright03:47
sordidbassthey never hung up, apps always worked... oh! and I could actually make phone calls on them!03:47
dr_willisas long as you did what they decided to llet you do. but  this is not the channel for this debate03:47
lotuspsychje!info mixxx > lotuspsychje03:49
dr_willisheh - you could also   /msg ubottu  mixxx03:50
lotuspsychjedr_willis: i know mate, but its the first time ive msg bot tonight :p03:50
airtonixsordidbass: stop buying 2$ phones.03:51
lotuspsychjedr_willis: was looking for a good alternative for bpm studio in win, so came up on mixxx03:52
dr_willis!info mixxx03:53
ubottumixxx (source: mixxx): Digital Disc Jockey Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10.1~dfsg0-1 (raring), package size 2396 kB, installed size 5355 kB03:53
airtonixlotuspsychje: mixx os pretty cool, I bought a vestax vci-400 to play with it03:53
airtonixis*03:53
lotuspsychjedr_willis: http://www.mixxx.org/ pretty neat03:53
lotuspsychjeairtonix: tnx for feedback mate!03:54
dr_willisi doubt if i need that for my   Kenny G. collection.03:54
dr_willis;P03:54
airtonix:< kenny g03:54
lotuspsychjeairtonix: can you get samples on mixxx?03:54
dr_willisand my broadway showtunes collection. :)  also got a lot of anime OST. ;P03:54
airtonixlotuspsychje: what do you mean by samples? load small sounds into a push button?03:56
lotuspsychjeairtonix: yes03:56
wilee-nileedr_willis, A local drummer her Bruce Carter was his drummer, he is deceased now but was one of the best.03:56
airtonixlotuspsychje: then yes.03:56
wilee-nileehere*03:56
lotuspsychjeairtonix: nice one tnx03:56
airtonixlotuspsychje: while mixxx looks alot nicer than all the reast out there, it is missing 4 deck support03:57
airtonixlast time i checked anyway03:57
airtonixyou might also want to look into using a novation launchpad with resound03:58
lotuspsychjeairtonix: you mean midi for your vestax?03:58
Q_Continuum12.04, I switch to TTY1 then back to TTY7 and my screen freaks out.03:58
airtonixlotuspsychje: yes, last time i checked mixxx only supports two decks, while my vestax has four decks03:58
Q_ContinuumHrm, didn't do it that time.03:59
lotuspsychjeairtonix: web says it supports over 30 hardware midi03:59
lotuspsychjeairtonix: http://www.mixxx.org/features/03:59
dr_willisQ_Continuum:  seen some times the framebuffer console can confuse and fight with the x server. depending on the drivers03:59
hylianQ_Continuum: I have been getting a blinking cursor on my system even after the gui is loaded. I have to log out to get rid of it. could they be related? (using 12.04 lts)04:00
airtonixlotuspsychje: yes 30 different devices are supported. but mixx only has two deck channels.04:00
lotuspsychjeairtonix: looks pretty professional04:00
lotuspsychjeairtonix: ah ic..04:00
airtonixlotuspsychje: yeah it's very nice.04:00
lotuspsychjeairtonix: maybe lmms or hydrogen might work better for you then?04:00
hylianhello Dr_Willis_. I wanted to say thanks for the help last time.04:01
lotuspsychje!cookie | Dr_Willis_04:01
ubottuDr_Willis_: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!04:01
Dr_Willis_I just ate a bag of donuts. ;)04:01
airtonixlotuspsychje: nah. also on linux mixx will integrate with RhythmBox if you have it installed04:01
lotuspsychjei gtooa split to work :p04:01
Mr_Mulll.:[13:58:35]:. <Q_Continuum> 12.04, I switch to TTY1 then back to TTY7 and my screen freaks out. <-- Must be an AMD thing, mine ALWAYS done that when switching between TTY*s04:01
lotuspsychjelaterz guyz04:01
hyliancan we use xmir now? how would I set that up? I want to see if it solves an issue..04:07
Tex_Nickhmmmmmmmm ... http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi ... seems to be unavailable/offline ???04:07
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hyliani am looking forward to seeing unity under xmir. it sucks on this laptop currently. I like unity, but for me currently it's xfce. unity is lsuggish and locks up.04:09
jgkhylian: ohhh sing a song04:10
hylianjgk: ??04:10
jgkim kidding04:10
jgkhow much ram04:10
hylianjgk: 2 gig. it's a cq57-229wm. it's a good office/net machine. it plays sims 3 ok, so i would think it would handle unity.. but alas...\04:11
hylianDr_Willis_: backing up the sources and sources list info has been very useful. I set up a client's machine in much less time just yesterday thanks to it.04:12
Mr_MulllI hate unity with a passion04:13
jgkoh04:13
sordidbassMr_Mulll: still 100000000% better than Win804:13
hylianjgk: i don't hate the idea, but i wish it had a true "no prettyness" mode like gnome.04:14
Mr_MulllThat's true04:14
Mr_MulllWho even uses win8?04:14
Mr_MulllI tried the MSDN release once upon a time.. worst 5 minutes ever04:14
sordidbassused it as my desktop OS at my last job.04:14
hylianoops, i meant Mr_Mulll, not jgk04:14
Mr_MulllORANGE, NO, BLUE, N GREEN04:14
sordidbasshonestly wasn't /terrible/ and 8.1 fixes many of the usability issues.04:14
sordidbassi'm going to get banned now, praising a MS product on #ubuntu04:14
Tex_NickMr_Mulll: if you don't like it , don't use it ... there are alternatives04:15
Mr_Mulllrofl04:15
Mr_Mulllhylian; agreed, i <3 gnome2.204:15
hylianif unity had a zero pretty/slowing visuals option, i probably would switch.04:15
sordidbassunity 2d on Ubuntu LTS?04:15
sordidbassrule of thumb for me is to use LTS releases ONLY04:16
hylianMr_Mulll: then you would probably ove mate. I had it installed and running for a while. I like xfce better, but mate would be an option I would have no problem living with.04:16
Mr_MulllTex_Nick; exactly my point, I don't use it ;304:16
Mr_Mulllove?04:16
Mr_MulllI got xubuntu here04:17
hylianMr_Mulll: yeah, big fingers + small keyboard = unusually high typos.04:17
Mr_Mulllmany many isos04:17
hylianMr_Mulll: Me too.04:17
cobolfooHi everyone, just upgraded to 13.10 beta1, I really like the way nothing work anymore :)04:19
hyliancobolfoo: yeah, i stay with the lts's... less headaches.04:19
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hyliancobolfoo: what's going on, maybe we can help?04:19
cobolfoothey got me with promises of adventures.04:19
cobolfooI click on nautilus, click on a favorite/bookmark, then BLAM! segfault.04:20
hyliancobolfoo: well, this could be classified as an adventure, I guess.04:20
qincobolfoo: is #ubuntu+1 there yet?04:21
cobolfooqin common04:21
hyliancobolfoo: i wonder if you could install lxde and pcmanfm. i wouldn't be surpised if it's a unity thing. It would atleast give you a direction to go in trying to diagnose04:21
nafg_Hi, where can I get help with the following problem: /var/log/mail.log is claiming errors resolving domain names, while ping works fine.04:21
cobolfooI usually install a older version of nautilus that support F4 anyway.04:22
cobolfoobut I was expecting a little bit less crashes for a beta1.04:22
hyliannafg_: sorry, i am not a server man. What program is this?04:22
cobolfooanyway, I only wanted to say how I liked the way nautilus crash for no reason , not really searching for a solution.04:22
hyliancobolfoo: ahh, yes it's fun to watch things fall apart around you, not. :)04:23
cobolfooHow complete is Unity 8 for Desktop ?04:24
hyliannafg_: can you post a pastebin? http://paste.ubuntu.com/04:24
qinnafg_: What domain are you using, since it is rather complaining about mx record than dns resolution.04:24
nafg_qin: You mean which domain is not resolving? Things like gmail.com04:25
nafg_I'm trying out the advice on  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=13795404:25
nafg_How often does it retry?04:26
qinnafg_: if you using gmail it is more wrong config.04:26
nafg_I'll just send a new mail04:26
nafg_qin: no, it's sending *to* gmail, sorry for confusion04:26
nafg_I didn't understand your question04:26
nafg_then04:26
hyliani have to go, bye all04:26
nafg_bye04:26
qinnafg_: sends as *who*?04:26
nafg_qin: You mean the "from"? I believe noreply@disp.lrbcol.org04:28
nafg_here's an example error line04:28
nafg_https://gist.github.com/nafg/10bce29ad1fd55ec4ac904:28
nafg_it's complaining about the recipient I think04:29
qinnafg_: send mail to yourself?04:29
nafg_qin: what do you mean?04:29
nafg_It's going from a server (JVM webapp)04:30
senninespañol04:30
nafg_qin: do you mean I should try to?04:30
qin!es04:30
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.04:30
nafg_Hey, all of a sudden it's working! Maybe https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=137954 but it took time to go into effect?04:33
nafg_Okay, so then I have  a different question04:36
nafg_qin: Can you help me with this? This one is more ubuntu specific. The other day apt-get couldn't resolve archive.ubuntu.com so I put google dns into /etc/resolve.conf.04:37
qinnafg_: acctually it is interesting, how it started working?04:37
hplcanyone that can help me out why this script dont work? it should create files and dirs as it goes, but it wont do that http://pastebin.com/BgtVhF7b04:37
nafg_However the file says not to edit it by hand since it will be overwritten04:37
nafg_qin: I'm guessing due to the link I posted: I edited /var/spool/postfix/etc/resolve.conf, i.e. the one in the postfix chroot.04:38
nafg_I ignored that warning since it was a temporary need, so I don't care if it gets overwritten04:38
nafg_However I'm wondering if somehow editing /etc/resolve.conf confused postfix's chroot env? Doesn't make any sense to me but what do I know04:39
nafg_In any case, the important question perhaps is, what is the correct way to edit the dns server (e.g. set to google or opendns)?04:39
nafg_Since a lot of sites say to edit /etc/resolv.conf, I'm guessing the warning not to edit it is ubuntu-specific04:40
Ben64!resolvconf | nafg_04:40
ubottunafg_: resolvconf is a set of scripts that's used to manage /etc/resolv.conf in 12.04 and later, for more information please see: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html#name-resolution04:40
nafg_Thanks Ben6404:42
teafmeu cinelerra está com áudio ruim04:47
teafe dá um erro quicktime04:47
teafoque é isso?04:47
qinhplc: python would be better for it, yet #bash channel may say otherwise04:48
tolgawhen will bluetooth work out of the box. BT is still SUPER unreliable in 13.0404:48
tolgaBT in xp works out of the box and has no issues connecting to smart phone, but is still darn unrealiable in any flavour of linux04:49
Dr_Willis_ive had to fight with bt on windows quite often also. :) but still. bt seems to be one of those techs. that should be so muh better then how it is now.04:52
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Dr_Willisthey really should have bt been standard on all mb's ages ago. ;(  but all i use it for these days is  my android keyboards and game controllers04:53
tolgaDr_Willis_: ive never had issues with BT in any flavour of windows04:53
tolgaDr_Willis_ BT in linux is horrendous04:54
qin...flavour of windows... hehe04:54
Dr_WillisIve definatlyhad to fight with it in windows. mainly due to either the windows bt stack fighting with the bt dongles companies software - or visa versa.04:54
tolgai always have to install Blueman app and ANYTHING BT related in synap's in order for it to send or receive04:55
Dr_Willisi really havent btheed with bt other then for keyboards  in ages.04:55
tolgaim more interested in BT in connecting smartphones to laptop04:55
qintolga: wifi direct?04:56
Dr_Willisi definatly NEVER bother to do BT connections to phones.. unless its a last resort04:56
tolgaqin : what u mean04:56
qinbtw, does it work in linux already?04:56
LinuxGoldwhat is the app that generates the grub.cfg properly in ubuntu?04:56
qintolga: wifi direct is no access point, p2p protocol04:56
Dr_WillisLinuxGold:  sudo update-grub04:56
LinuxGoldupdate-grub didn't update the grub.cfg after I removed the kernel via apt-get purge04:56
Dr_Willis!grub204:57
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub204:57
tolgaits a horrendous effort to get BT to transfer or recieve files via BT on ubuntu/deb OS04:57
Dr_WillisLinuxGold:  try it again. I would guess the kernel dident get all the wayuninstalled or somthing.04:57
LinuxGolddid that thrice :)04:57
Dr_Willisbecause update-grub is definatly the way to  update the grub cfg. and it should only list the kernels it finds.04:57
qintolga: for sharing files you may want to just use drive or ubuntu one04:57
tolgais there any way to get devs to realise that BT dosnt really work out of the box, i think its a forgotten component on any ubuntu release04:58
Dr_Willisfile transfers over bt - nasty. ;) for my android phones i definatly use airdroid or some sort of ssh/sftp client04:58
tolgathey seem to concentrate on rather pointless updates on ubuntu other then fixing ancient bugs thats been residing for the last 5 years04:59
qintolga: BT tents to be more hardvare communication platform than protocol for users04:59
LinuxGoldhttp://pastebin.com/463R4iPq04:59
qintends04:59
LinuxGolddr_willis: here is the paste of what I was trying to do04:59
tucemiuxanyone knows how to configure grub2?  I have two hard drives, one with windows7 and another with ubuntu04:59
tolgaqin BT finally works after you install blueman app and all bt related services and plugins in synap05:00
Dr_Willistucemiux:  sudo update-grub SHOULD see both drives and add a windows entry. thats how my desktop system is setup05:00
tucemiuxDr_Willis,  thanks for the tip, let me reboot to see if that did the trick!05:00
jgkHello05:01
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jgkHi Snake2k05:02
jgkHow's coding noobs05:02
Snake2kHey jgk, its good :)05:02
Dr_WillisLinuxGold:  i have to wonder where your /boot/grub/menu.lst came from ;) i dont even have that file05:03
LinuxGoldisntalling grub205:03
Dr_WillisUpdating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done05:04
Dr_Willisi dont have that file.. makes me wonder whats going on with it.05:04
LinuxGoldyou tell me :)05:04
tucemiuxDr_Willis, that one did it, thanks !!!05:04
LinuxGoldUbuntu 13.04 Server05:04
Dr_Williswillis@1001PXD:/boot/grub$ sudo update-grub | pastebinit05:05
Dr_WillisGenerating grub.cfg ...05:05
Dr_Willisat No point does mine mention menu.lst05:05
LinuxGoldrebooting05:05
Dr_Willisits almost as if you have LILO on the system05:05
LinuxGoldlol!05:05
GeorgeJHello folks. I'm trying to install wine1.6, however, the ubuntu repositories only contain wine1.4, and the ubuntu-wine ppa's wine1.6 is actually wine1.7. Any ideeas?05:06
Dr_Willisif it in in fact using lilo.05:06
LinuxGoldI remembered lilo back in old days05:06
LinuxGoldinstalled grub2 and it did the trick05:07
Dr_Williserr.. so you were using LILO?05:07
LinuxGoldno05:07
LinuxGoldgrub05:07
LinuxGoldI used update-grub, noticed it updated menu.lst05:07
LinuxGoldsaw you saying !grub2 -- so I decided to go for grub205:08
LinuxGoldapt-get install grub2 -- got it fixed05:08
qin0.98, was it ditched around 10.10, right?05:08
Dr_WillisYou were using Grub1 ? how manu times has thios system been updated/upgraded?05:08
LinuxGoldinitially installed 12.04 and upgraded to 13.0405:08
Dr_Willisi recall some old release would not switch to grub2 - if you did a release upgrade05:08
LinuxGolddid a release upgrade05:09
Dr_Willisbut 12.04 should have been using grub2 by default05:09
Dr_Willis!grub205:09
LinuxGoldof course05:09
LinuxGoldat least, it is fixed now05:09
Dr_Willisso shomthing stll seems weird05:09
LinuxGoldyeah, tell me about it.05:09
Dr_Willisat leat you are not trying to use LILO like i saw some guy trying to do last week05:09
calwighow can I make an ISO from several files? and make it bootable05:10
LinuxGoldlol05:10
qincalwig: to boot into what?05:10
Dr_Williscalwig:  you are tryint to remaster a ubuntu disrto?05:10
LinuxGoldwhen you said lilo, it reminds me of Robert LEvin05:10
ericabhow do i tell apt-get updo an "apt-get upgrade" but not one of the packages it wants to update ?05:12
qin!pinning05:12
ubottupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto05:12
calwigqin, yea sort of and I have all files in a folder, I just need it to be set with a boot flag05:13
Dr_Williscalwig:  so what exactly do you have in that folder?05:13
calwigDr_Willis, kindof05:13
ericabthx quin05:13
qin!remastersys05:13
qinups05:13
calwigDr_Willis, i got a couple of different things Im trying05:14
Dr_Willis!remaster05:14
ubottuInterested in remastering the Ubuntu !LiveCD or !Alternate installer? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization - Or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility05:14
calwiglike DOS, Win95, and some debian files05:14
Dr_Williscalwig:  good luck with that. You may need to read up on the sysiso  docs05:14
jgkHim05:14
Dr_Willisthere are tools that let grub2 boot ISO files. ;)05:15
Dr_Williswhich may be easier to do05:15
calwigok05:15
calwigDr_Willis, will have a look05:15
Dr_Willisthe multisystem USB maker tool at pendrivelinux lets you make a Usb flash that can boot differnt iso files as well.05:15
rscnthowdy!05:17
rscntwho needs helpsz!?05:17
Dr_Willisnormally you come in and wait for someone to ask a question....05:17
calwigDr_Willis, unetbootin.. ah right05:18
rscntb**ch i want the question right now!05:18
calwigthx05:18
Dr_Williscalwig:  i never use unetbootin. ;)  i perfer 'multisystem' or the other tools at the pendrivelinux site05:18
calwigah05:18
rscntcalwig: go with unetbootin05:18
rscntisn't that thing deprected05:18
jgkrscnt: Calm down05:18
JadedNZHi05:21
rscntHi05:21
JadedNZI have a toshiba 500GB SATA drive that I want to install ubuntu onto, how can I scan the drive for bad sectors before installing ubuntu?05:21
qinJadedNZ: check SMART data, disk utility from live cd/usb05:22
* cfhowlett ... thinks "Oh, yes! The rude, profane guy is EXACTLY who I want help from!"05:23
GeorgeJHello folks. I'm trying to install wine1.6, however, the ubuntu repositories only contain wine1.4, and the ubuntu-wine ppa's wine1.6 is actually wine1.7. Any ideeas?05:23
jpdsGeorgeJ: On which version of Ubuntu?05:24
JadedNZThe drive currently has Windows 7 + all the HP/Compaq bloatware on it. has "Weak Sectors" on ita05:24
GeorgeJ13.0405:24
rscntGeorge2: compile it, or use archlinux (manjaro)05:24
JadedNZSorry: I meant to say Hard Drive sentinel reports that drive as having weak sectors05:25
cfhowlett!info wine05:25
ubottuwine (source: wine1.4): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (meta-package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4.1-0ubuntu5 (raring), package size 0 kB, installed size 21 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)05:25
GeorgeJrscnt: Sure, I could compile it, but archlinux? Really? Are you suggesting I use a shitty distro just so that I can run a custom version of an utility? Are you that dumb?05:25
JadedNZI'm guessing Weak Sectors just mean "Pending sectors"05:25
rscntGeorgeJ: oh, i didn't know you think that about arch, so gentoo then?05:26
wilee-nileeGeorgeJ, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/wine/precise/main/base/wine1.605:26
GeorgeJwilee-nilee: I tried that. It's still wine 1.7 :(05:27
qinJadedNZ: Well, it means precisely this... back up?05:27
wilee-nileeah, those lying ........05:27
ChogyDanGeorgeJ: you'll probably get a better answer in #winehq05:28
GeorgeJrscnt: Wat. Do you not realise how dumb it is to suggest using another distro just so that I could use a different version of an utility? Especially when asking in a support channel for another distro.05:28
JadedNZIT's a friends laptop, I got them to backup all their documents before I even had a look at it05:28
rscntGeorgeJ: it's for good05:28
cfhowlettGeorgeJ, relax and don't feed the trolls.05:28
rscntGeorgeJ: please be respectful.05:28
GeorgeJcfhowlett: I am.05:28
GeorgeJrscnt: Fuck off05:28
qinGeorgeJ: you can ignore silly rants, he is beyong of reach of arm ;)05:29
dak0Hello, does Lubuntu have preinstalled Office package like Ubuntu ?05:29
qin!language05:29
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.05:29
cfhowlettdak0, yes but you can always just add libreoffice if you wish05:29
rscntGeorgeJ: please watch out your language05:29
GeorgeJChogyDan: They're probably going to recommend recompilation, which is allright, I was looking for an alternative though and couldn't find anything decent on the interwebs, thas why I asked here. Thanks anyway though.05:29
GeorgeJrscnt: Why?05:30
IdleOneGeorgeJ: because it is part of the channel guidelines05:30
dak0cfhowlett: friend of mine wants to install Linux on his laptop, the question is he really need office for university how Libreoffice works compared to Microsoft office?05:31
ChogyDanGeorgeJ: I bet the ppa maintainer just messed up the versions05:31
rscntdak0: you're going to have some problems05:31
ChogyDanrscnt: stop05:31
rscntdak0: i mean i could come here and say, "It's going to work seamslessly and everything"... but the reality is that you're going to have some little problems05:32
dak0cfhowlett, rscnt: also he has 2.0Ghz dual-core 2Gb of ram so I though Lubuntu is best distro for his specs05:32
cfhowlettdak0, hard question to answer but ... LibreOffice ain't MS office.  They both have wordprocessing, etc.  Different keystrokes and such.  that said, there is another option.  Kingsoft-Office is a "clone" of MS office.  Haven't used it myself ...05:33
rscntdak0: i've been using LibreOffice/Ooo since im in highschool and05:33
cfhowlettdak0, good thinking.  xubuntu/lubuntu are both optimized for low spec / older machines.05:33
rscntdak0: there's some bad experiences that i can share, but at the end, i didn't regret05:33
qindak0: they are not fully compatibile, espacialy VBA and macros05:33
GeorgeJChogyDan: Hopefully, but doubtfull, seeing that there are other version discrepancies aswell, wine1.3 for example is 1.4.05:34
rscntdak0: exactly, once we had to rebuild at etering system that use some crappy excel sheets, and i got a lot of problems with calc05:34
rscntdak0: but just for see the data, they're going to be ok05:34
rscntdak0: also now there's the MSOffice in the cloud, the 356 or something like that05:35
Ben64GeorgeJ: its because it got updated05:35
GeorgeJBen64: Sure, but why have a specific package named 1.6 that's actually 1.7?05:36
Ben64GeorgeJ: you'd have to ask them05:36
rscntGeorgeJ: go and post that in other place.05:36
cfhowlettGeorgeJ, grub2 is still grub 1.99 ... stuff happens05:36
rscntGeorgeJ: this is not the place to cry about it.05:36
dak0rscnt, quin, cfhowlett: What do you suggest guys, I mean office is vital for him? Also he don't know much about comps, he is just casual user web mail, browser and office.05:37
IdleOnerscnt: Please limit your comments to supporting users and let those who know and understand the channel rules enforce them.05:37
cfhowlettdak0, so have him use the office online version and be done.  or even google docs?05:37
Ben64dak0: libreoffice works great, but there are some issues. i've had a very complex excel document not work properly in it05:37
rscntdak0: do it, he will be fine.05:37
rscntdak0: also there's virtualbox, qemu... web apps (gdocs, msoffice)05:38
andornautSo, Ubuntu 13.04 doesnt appear to package xlockmore any longer. Are there any alternatives in the repos?05:38
dak0cfhowlett, ben64, rscnt: Thanks for your time guys, have a nice day.05:38
rscntdak0: why not dual boot to start?05:38
JadedNZI ended up using the Compaq Insydeh20 Setup Utility to do a comprehensive test on my drive05:39
qindak0: Get usb drive and test on live system, you need 8 gb to fit all updates and installs05:39
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IdleOneandornaut: is xautolock what you are looking for?05:39
JadedNZThrough the BIOS05:40
dak0He wants to get rid of windows so dual-boot is not an option :D, qin: I'll keep that in mind thank you too05:40
Ben64JadedNZ: what are you trying to do?05:40
JadedNZBen64: Trying to see what kind of state my friends drive is in05:41
rscnti didn't know that docker can't be used on syria05:41
Ben64JadedNZ: ok.. but we can't really help you with a compaq utility05:42
rscntor in north korea05:42
JadedNZOK.05:42
JadedNZWhat about a webpage that explains how bad sectors works.05:43
JadedNZIS it the drive's firmware that marks sectors as bad, or is it the file system?05:43
ChogyDanJadedNZ: I _think_ both happens.  The drive does it some, automatically, and you can check that with smartmontools.  The file system starts handling it when the drive has too many bad sectors to handle on its own05:45
GeorgeJJadedNZ: I believe both can, mostly filesystems afaik though.05:45
Ben64JadedNZ: if you're having bad sectors, that usually means its time to get a new drive05:45
JadedNZBen64: Yeah, my friend is just being stubborn, I told them to get a new drive.05:46
radiovstvHey folks! Trying to solve an issue. When I boot my Ubuntu 12.04 partition, I get an error "SP5100 TCO timer: mmio address 0xb8fe00 already in use", and freezes. I can, through GRUB use an older linux kernal to get to the desktop. After some research, updating my drivers to my video card to a stable version may be a fix. However, I cannot update/replace the drivers via the system (Update Manager or terminal). Any insight on how to approach this would05:46
radiovstvbe appreciated.05:46
JadedNZBut they're just going to use the laptop for general web surfing and save everything on the cloud05:46
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clue_hJadedNZ, if their main hd is failing the least they could do is install a base system on a cheap sd card/usb if they dont want to spend to much. More importantly they should backup what they have on something05:53
clue_htoo*05:53
hymerahi06:00
hymeracan i ask if anyone is from Canada06:00
hymerai need a little help06:00
cfhowlett!ask|hymera,06:01
ubottuhymera,: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:01
clue_hhymera, what's up06:02
hymerahi clue_h can i PM you>06:05
clue_hhymera, i may not know the answer, best to ask your question here06:05
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PParthhey all06:08
PParthi have a local ubuntu repository and i have a kickseed file06:08
PParthwhat do i need to do to install on a laptop through network?06:08
PParthno CD drive06:08
PParthwant to do "live" install06:08
PParthfrom my local repo and using my kickseed file06:08
PParthi'm looking through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation_without_a_CD06:09
PParthbut i can't see an option that fits my requirements exactly06:09
PParthnot sure where the solution might lie either... so any help/nudge would be appreciated06:09
Sathissudo tail -f /var/log//squid3/access.log06:15
cfhowlettPParth, so a network installation, yes?06:15
Sathisi need to seperate a string within that commind06:16
PParthcfhowlett i guess that's what it would be called06:16
Sathis*command06:16
cfhowlettPParth, see "server and network installations"  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation06:16
PParthcfhowlett so i'm going to hvae to setup TFTP and PXE?06:16
cfhowlettPParth, never done so, but yes, that is my understanding.06:17
PParthcfhowlett ah, that's what i feared. haven't done it myself. I guess i'm in for a fun ride06:17
PParthcfhowlett thanks06:17
cfhowlettPParth, have fun, be safe.06:17
Sathishow to get a seperate string with command in ubuntu.. ?06:17
Sathisanyone help ...06:18
PParthSathis give an example of what you mean by seperate06:18
SathisCommand: sudo tail -f /var/log//squid3/access.log06:19
Sathisthis will run a log files06:19
Sathiseg: 1378879071.966 S001 50009 TCP_MISS/200 CONNECT msh.amazon.com:443 DIRECT/207.171.162.253 - [Host:- User-Agent:Amazon/5104.1 CFNetwork/548.1.4 Darwin/11.0.0]06:19
PParthok06:19
PParthwhat do you want the final output to look like?06:19
Sathisin that log files i need to view only this string with  "50009 "06:20
squillowi need some help with a broadcom b43 driver for a broadcom bcm4331 -- its working but it doesnt detect any wifi networks until i manually "connect to hidden network". im using ubuntu 12.04.306:20
PParthsudo tail -f /var/log//squid3/access.log | cut -d\  -f 306:20
squillowany suggestions would be appreciated, thank you06:20
PParthtry that06:20
cfhowlettsquillow, so is that network indeed hidden?  try connecting to a different network.06:20
squillowno its not hidden06:20
PParthSathis there are two spaces after "-d\"06:21
squillowits just manually forcing it to associate06:21
PParththat's specifies the deliminator as a space06:21
PParth-f specifies the 3rd column to output06:21
SathisPParth > sure let me checl06:21
cfhowlettsquillow, strange behavior.  Wish I knew more but ... over my head06:21
squillowafter that point it detects other networks in the vicinity06:21
squillowiwlist wlan0 scan shows nothing06:21
squillowuntil i force it to connect06:21
cfhowlettsquillow, ... VERY strange behavior.06:21
clue_hSathis, or...         cat /var/log//squid3/access.log | grep5000906:22
CountryfiedLinuxHow do I find out what graphics card model I have?06:22
clue_hwith space at end06:23
PParthSathis if you are looking for the exact string "50009" then follow clue_h suggestion and use the command "grep"06:23
clue_hCountryfiedLinux, lspci06:24
ChogyDanCountryfiedLinux: sudo lshw -C video06:24
PParthSathis you can do something like:  sudo tail -f /var/log//squid3/access.log | cut -d\  -f 3 | grep 5000906:24
squillowcfhowlett: thanks; anyone else?06:24
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clue_hsquillow, is cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf saying managed=true?06:25
squillowifupdown -- managed=false06:26
CountryfiedLinuxChogyDan, http://pastebin.com/hcKP2BFg I don't see a model version number06:26
clue_hsquillow, try changing it to true06:26
clue_hsquillow, because i had a similar issue, this helped.06:27
ChogyDanCountryfiedLinux: you misstyped the command06:27
nurowHello, for several days now I've been trying to find a way to stop the windows snapping that occurs between my first and second monitors. My cursor constantly gets stuck in the gap between the two monitors, and it is extremely annoying. I tried disabling windows snapping in Compiz, but that had no effect. I tried disabling Windows Snapping in Unity Tweak Manager, but that disables all windows snapping, and I don't want that. What can I do?06:27
LinuxGoldCountryfiedLinux:  sudo lshw -C video NOT sudo lshw _C video06:28
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squillowclue_h: i will try and reboot -- if i dont come back then it worked lol06:28
clue_hlol06:29
squillowafter i force it its fine until reboot or suspend06:29
squillowfyi ive tried bcmwl-kernel-source (which fails and is the one that "Additional drivers" installs), and reinstalling the b43 firmware cutter which reinstalls the most current driver06:29
CountryfiedLinuxChogyDan, http://pastebin.com/cj4y1F2L06:29
clue_hsquillow, so is it using the open source driver now06:30
squillowKernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge06:30
squillowKernel modules: bcma06:30
ChogyDanCountryfiedLinux: I think you just have instels integrated graphics, i91506:31
CountryfiedLinuxChogyDan, I was about to ask that haha thanks.06:31
squillowhere goes06:31
cfhowlettsquillow, so you attempted multiple installation methods.  I'd suggest maybe an artifact or two is confusing the issue.  purge the bcm stuff and reinstall.06:32
ChogyDandidn't broadcom go open source?  Why is it still so hard for folks?06:33
santoshI have a 2 mb file and a 10 mb file, I want the first to be merged in second one overwriting the existing 2mb.06:33
cfhowlettChogyDan, they did.  broadcom linux sta driver requires users to compile and such.  Most want no part of that.06:33
PN2hi06:34
cfhowlettPN2, greetings06:34
PN2lady gaga is there06:34
cfhowlett!ot|PN2,06:35
ubottuPN2,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:35
santoshAnybody to the my question?06:35
clue_hsquillow, i take it that had no effect06:35
squillowno06:35
cfhowlettsquillow, what was your chipset?06:36
cfhowletthttp://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php06:37
squillowbcm433106:38
squillowfrom macbookpro 8,306:38
squillowthat driver doesnt have that chip listed06:38
emurillo510does anyone know why sometimes video/music is choppy on ubuntu, it goes away after restarts06:39
squillowmemory gets low06:39
emurillo510i have 12.04 lts version of ubuntu, it happens occasionally and it goes away after restart06:39
santoshI have a 2 mb file and a 10 mb file, I want the first to be merged in second one overwriting the existing 2mb of 10 mb file.06:39
LinuxGoldwhen I issued iwconfig wlan0 essid <myessid> key <password> I received the error in Ubuntu 13.04 --  Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A):06:39
emurillo510but i have 8 gigs06:39
LinuxGoldinvalid argument "<password>"06:40
squillowuse htop to figure out what is eating your memory or cpu06:40
Alveinhi all06:40
AlveinHelp determine the cause of the periodic server is unavailable (ubuntu 13.04)06:40
clue_hemurillo510, could be a number of factors like high disk access too06:40
emurillo510ic06:41
squillowor as clue_h says -- iotop06:41
emurillo510is there a way to fix it w/o restarting all the time?06:41
squillowend the process...06:41
PN2how to run cron  job in script06:41
clue_hit's usually the reverse06:42
squillowso anyone have a clue about my broadcom issue?06:42
squillowim not sure if its a driver issue or something else because once associated it detects other networks -- so the driver operates?06:43
clue_hsquillow, only a lame question, in network manager is 'automatically connect' ticked.06:44
squillowyes06:45
clue_hsorry for that lol06:45
SathisPParth> sudo tail -f /var/log//squid3/access.log | grep -h 5000106:46
Sathisthis worked :)06:47
PParthSathis that's good to hear. Sorry misunderstood your original request =)06:47
clue_hsomeone suggested to purge everything to do with the proprietary driver and then install the open source. i was just going to look for an arch wiki on your wifi model but update interfered06:48
clue_hslow connection06:49
horrowHello guys i need some help pls06:50
MrQuistOH sure06:50
MrQuisthere, have some help:06:50
MrQuist1. Always drink a glass of water before going to bed.06:50
MrQuist2. Try to eat at least 2 pieces of fruit per day.06:50
MrQuist3. Always ask a question, don't ask to ask :)06:51
horrowIm trying last 2 days to use logkeys program on my ubuntu06:51
horrowbut i cant06:51
squillowi can apt-get remove b43 stuff and modprobe -rf b4306:51
squillowbut installing open source didnt help when i trieed06:51
MrQuistokay06:51
MrQuistthats too bad horrow06:51
horrowim using ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64bit06:51
clue_hsquillow, what a pain this broadcom is06:52
squillowi know06:53
MrQuistokay great06:53
horrowMrQuist, when i start logkeys -s or when i conf map file is the same my log files are always empty06:53
rostamHi what is alternate Ubuntu CD? is this a different than for example Ubuntu server? thx06:53
MrQuisti am using 13.1006:53
squillowits almost like apple didnt want anything but mac os x on this machine  :p06:53
clue_his there anyway to stop my icons jiggling in the launcher when something opens ? ive been meaning to ask for ages06:53
clue_hsends me crazy06:54
rostamMrQuist, is 13.10 stable ?06:54
clue_hsquillow, with persistence you'll win haha06:55
squillowwell its been a while now with this problem06:56
squillowits preventing me from making this my field laptop because without a network to connect to it wont see other networks first06:56
clue_hrostam, last time i used it, it was less bulky and fit on a cd rom06:56
horrowanybody can help me with program logkeys im trying it from 2 days and no success06:57
helmut_hi07:01
clue_hsquillow, perhaps a different interface , maybe 'wicd'. it could be network manager. long shot though07:01
PN2how to run crontab07:02
Wiz_KeeDhey guys, can someone help out with this please?  libsqlite3-dev : Depends: libsqlite3-0 (= 3.7.9-2ubuntu1) but 3.7.9-2ubuntu1.1 is to be installed07:08
Wiz_KeeDhow can i fix such sitiuations?07:08
pandaroot-gamai am setting up a local repostory using debmirror07:10
pandaroot-gamathe prob is that i am only able to download from main, not from restricted, universe and multiverse.07:10
ObrienDavepandaroot-gama::: sorry, came in late. do you have those repositories enabled?07:14
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pandaroot-gamaObrienDave, yeah i have those repositories enabled.07:16
pandaroot-gamaObrienDave, it's ok mate :)07:16
Wiz_KeeDAny thoughts on that please?07:17
Wiz_KeeDtried apt-get clean and apt-get update but still doesn't work07:17
bazhangWiz_KeeD, what is your end goal here, what prompts that07:18
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squillowclue_h: i wanted to let you know that installing wicd somehow made it work through a reboot with network manager07:21
jshrivergreetings07:22
jshriverby chance does anyone know how or recommend a torrent server for Ubuntu?  I have over 200gigs of scientific data I'm trying to share.07:22
jshriverDue to concerns, I'm looking for something that is pretty closed off.. noone can add anything except me. Trying to alleviate some stress from my main web box. Tips are appreciated.07:23
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houserhow do i restart skype when it crashes without restarting the whole computer?07:27
horrowSomebody pls help me config LOGKEYS on ubuntu 12.04 64bit07:27
jshriverexit07:29
horrowSomebody pls help me config LOGKEYS on ubuntu 12.04 64bit07:33
Dr_Willis!info logkeys07:35
ubottulogkeys (source: logkeys): keylogger for GNU/Linux systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1a-3 (raring), package size 34 kB, installed size 111 kB07:35
BlackDex_Hello there... i have some unaligned icons on my desktop for a while... and i'm wondering how to fix that... i can't find anything which could help me07:38
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Dr_Willishmm theres not a align icons on the right click menu?07:39
Dr_WillisYou could just hide all icons on the desktop. ;)07:39
BlackDexDr_Willis: LoL...07:40
BlackDexwell i use the "Keep Aligned" option07:40
Dr_Willisi dont have any icons at all on my Ubuntu desktops07:40
BlackDexbut that shifts the icon's out of alignment07:40
Dr_Willisthey got funny names? I cant recall ever seeing the issue. wondered if a long name may goof things up07:40
BlackDexhmm07:41
k3pl3r16is there anyone that is can help recover a home partition?07:41
k3pl3r16I have installed ubuntu from a slackware install and im missing my files on a separate home partition07:41
jyhcCan I install v3.11-saucy mainline kernel onto a fresh 13.04.2 xubuntu install?07:42
k3pl3r16df shows that they are there but no files are shown07:42
ikoniak3pl3r16: from a slackware install ?07:42
ikoniak3pl3r16: how did you install it from slackware ?07:42
Dr_Willisk3pl3r16:  no files are shown where exactly?  ls   dosent show the files?07:42
k3pl3r16ikonia, I had slackware installed just before and a separate home07:42
ikoniajyhc: why would you do that ?07:42
ikoniak3pl3r16: so you didn't actually install it from slackware07:42
BlackDexDr_Willis: It seems to be the naming and being on the right side of the screen, it will misalign07:42
opalepatrickanyone know of a reasonably current command line csv to xml tool?07:42
BlackDexdidn't tought about that07:42
BlackDexthx07:43
jyhcikonia: I need some patches in 3.11 for my system07:43
k3pl3r16ikonia, yes sorry i had slackware installed previously07:43
horrowexit07:43
ikoniak3pl3r16: how did you install ubuntu07:43
k3pl3r16I installed ubuntu and kept the home partition07:43
Dr_WillisBlackDex:   :) i never put icons on the right side either..  thats where my COnky stuff is at ;P07:43
jyhcikonia: it will work, right? just wget kernel headers and image, dpkg install07:43
k3pl3r16ikonia, live cd07:43
ikoniajyhc: nope07:43
ikoniak3pl3r16: and did you install it to the same disk, different disk, ?07:43
Dr_Willisk3pl3r16:  so you cd to where the files are at. and use 'ls' do you see themn? what do you see exactly?07:43
k3pl3r16ikonia, same disk 1tb07:44
jyhcikonia: so how can I get 3.11 on 13.04.2?07:44
k3pl3r16Dr_Willis, nothing all folders are blank07:44
jyhcthere is no v3.11-raring07:44
ikoniajyhc: wait for an official package, or make your own and pin it properly07:44
ikoniak3pl3r16: so are you trying to view the files from slackware ?07:44
k3pl3r16ikonia, no i removed slackware and installed ubuntu07:45
ikoniak3pl3r16: so are you in ubuntu now ?07:45
k3pl3r16yes07:45
k3pl3r16ikonia, fresh install07:45
ikoniak3pl3r16: so why do you think there are no files ?07:45
ikoniak3pl3r16: as you're in ubuntu, so there obviously are files07:45
k3pl3r16because when I type ls or look in nautilus nothing shows folder is empty07:45
ikoniak3pl3r16: what folder are you looking at ?07:46
jyhcikonia: OK. can you link me some documentation on how to make my own?07:46
jyhcikonia: or what should I search for07:46
ikoniajyhc: not got anything to hand07:46
k3pl3r16my music pictures videos etc are not showing even with sudo but df shows that 5% of the home folder is used07:46
ikoniak3pl3r16: what folder are you looking at ?07:46
Mr_Mulller07:46
ikoniak3pl3r16: what is the full path of the folder you are looking at07:47
k3pl3r16ikonia, the ones in home music,pictures,video etc07:47
Mr_Mulllwho was it arguing with me that the USB won't boot cause of a graphics problem?07:47
Dr_Willisk3pl3r16:   you mean 5% of the home partion?07:47
ikoniak3pl3r16: are you trying to use the /home partition from your slackware installed ?07:47
k3pl3r16/home/k3pl3r16/Music07:47
k3pl3r16no I no longer have slackware installed07:47
k3pl3r16I replaced this with Ubuntu07:47
ikoniak3pl3r16: have you put the files into your home directory ?07:47
k3pl3r16ikonia, I have used the same parttiton,same username for the/home folder07:48
ikoniak3pl3r16: so you are trying to use the /home partition from the slackware install ?07:48
k3pl3r16ikonia, yes07:49
k3pl3r16ikonia, i did not format this07:49
ikoniak3pl3r16: I suspect when you selected it, you didnt remove the "format" tick box07:49
ikoniak3pl3r16: I'm sorry, if there are no files in that directory, it's either a.) not mounted b.) formated07:49
ikoniak3pl3r16: is the /home partition mounted ?07:49
Dr_Willisk3pl3r16: 5% of a partion is normally reserved when formated for root emergancy ussage.07:49
k3pl3r16ikonia, I did gparted and df show that it has 36GB used07:49
ikoniak3pl3r16: is the /home partition mounted ?07:49
k3pl3r16ikonia, Dr_Willis  good point I;ll check07:50
Dr_Willisk3pl3r16:  you may want to pastebin the output of 'mount'  'sudo blkid' and 'sudo fdisk -l'07:50
k3pl3r16Dr_Willis,  ikonia , yup it is mounted07:51
Dr_Willisif its the home directory/partion from a difffent disrto. then the ownership of the files may be all messed up. the root user SHOULD still be able to see the files and chown/chmod them to be owneable by your proper user.07:51
ikoniak3pl3r16: can you please pastebin the output of the command "mount" and the command "df -h" please.07:54
k3pl3r16Dr_Willis, ikonia here is the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/6091456/07:54
ikoniak3pl3r16: please show me the ouptut of "df -h" in a pastebin07:55
ikoniak3pl3r16: why are you partitions btrfs07:55
k3pl3r16df command http://paste.ubuntu.com/6091463/07:56
k3pl3r16ikonia, that is my home07:56
ikoniak3pl3r16: home is empty07:56
k3pl3r16home is /dev/sda7 and it says that it is 5% used07:57
k3pl3r1636GB07:57
ikoniahome is /dev/sda607:57
ikonia/dev/sda6      823330976 38793852 784355664   5% /home07:57
k3pl3r16ikonia, Dr_Willis found it07:58
k3pl3r16sorry I thought that sda7 was home but there is another partition /dev/sda607:58
k3pl3r16this is not mounted07:58
phpjunkiesae07:58
k3pl3r16sorry for wasting you time07:58
k3pl3r16thank07:58
k3pl3r16you07:58
ikoniano problem07:58
k3pl3r16ikonia, I was confused because /home said that it was 5% used and 36GB08:00
k3pl3r16but this was /dev/sda708:00
DJonesk3pl3r16: THe 5% used could well be the default reserved disk space that Ubuntu reserves for use by the operating system08:02
DJonesk3pl3r16: Ubuntu reserves 5% by default08:03
k3pl3r16DJones, but this was on the home partition that is why i got confused08:04
k3pl3r16DJones, all good have my stuff back now08:04
DJonesk3pl3r16: I could be wrong, but I thought the 5% applied to all partitions regardless, but good to see you've got your stuff back08:05
elr90 #linux08:05
k3pl3r16DJones, yeah I don't know I should have read df better08:08
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ssshvbis it possible to copy a few files from different folders if i have a pls file from Rhythmbox 2.97 . ?  A pls file is a playlist  folder so i guess it contain the name of the file and  the  path  to it .08:21
ssshvbi asked the developer bu they did not reply08:26
ssshvbbut*08:27
ActionParsnipssshvb: if you can grep the file names out, I don't see why not08:28
edo_ydoes anyone know how to install oracle on Mac?? I tried any ways but they don't work at all08:31
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phaedraedo_y: You may have a better chance asking in #MacOSX08:33
edo_yphaedra Ok i'll ask it there.08:34
pythonuklearnerwebczat: /join #oracle08:35
pythonuklearnersorry08:35
pythonuklearnerwas for me :)08:35
sidtping08:36
sidtquit08:37
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Bagheeramorning all08:40
gartralhi08:41
MoL0ToVi have a problem with xscreensaver, don't authenticate even with correct password08:52
MoL0ToValso gnome-screensaver08:53
FooBarWidgetwhich channel should I go to for help on ubuntu packaging?09:04
DJonesFooBarWidget: Might be worth trying #ubuntu-app-devel09:05
geirhaIsn't that for mobile apps?09:06
DJonesI didn't think so, I thought it was for any Ubuntu app's09:06
FooBarWidgetI'll just ask here. how do I use ccache when using pbuilder to build packages?09:07
FooBarWidgetor, more specifically, pbuilder-dist09:07
FooBarWidgetthe documentation says that it's supposed to "automatically" use ccache but that doesn't appear to be the case09:07
adzyZFS question: is it normal for txg_sync to be writing to disk every 5 seconds? I've had this pool running for a week, and this is the first time I've noticed it09:16
opalepatrickseem to be having this problem regularly since upgrade - Error: unable to create tmp file in /usr/bin/scripts (for instance)09:23
opalepatrickany ideas?09:23
opalepatrickpermission... saved as su09:26
ubillican any one help i am havung problems with installing skype on my ubuntu....?09:37
Dr_Willis!skype09:38
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga09:38
ActionParsnipadzy: are there any bugs reported?09:39
adzyActionParsnip - not that I'm aware of09:40
ubilliplease i try this command but it did not work... sudo dpkg --add-architecture i38609:45
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jimmy32Hi.  How can I search in a folder and subfolders for .html files which contain a string?09:56
ikoniajimmy32: grep ?09:57
Moscherkoboldhello everyone, is it possible to create a wlan hotspot with my ubuntu laptop? It is connected to cable LAN atm09:57
cfhowlett!share09:57
ikoniaMoscherkobold: there are software packages to make your wifi card a hotspot as long as the card supports it09:57
ikonia!ics | Moscherkobold09:58
ubottuMoscherkobold: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing09:58
Moscherkoboldgreat thx09:58
jimmy32ikonia, what is the exact command?09:58
ikoniajimmy32: try to at least work these things out, grep -R string *.html09:59
geirhajiffe99: find . -name "*.html" -exec grep string /dev/null {} +10:00
geirhaerr, was meant for jimmy3210:00
vtuxh10:01
geirhaikonia: That will only search through html files in the current dir10:01
ikonia-R is revursive10:01
ikoniarecursive10:01
geirhaikonia: Yes, but you don't give it any directories to recurse through. Only files.10:01
nrdbcan anyone tell me why this simple python program http://paste.ubuntu.com/6091814/ does not display an icon?  I have been looking at lots of examples but none help!10:02
nerdtronfind commands defaults to recursive isn't it10:02
ikoniageirha: ahh, I missed it yes, no directory called *.html10:02
ikoniagood sport10:02
ikoniaspot10:02
geirhanerdtron: yes10:03
nrdbI have failed to get anything visible.  Including the commented out lines.10:04
MrQuistAww :(10:04
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Dry_LipsHi guys, I'm trying to install phpmyadmin, and I get this error message: http://pastebin.com/fvKpNQme10:06
Dry_LipsAny suggestions?10:06
nrdbDry_Lips, you need a database user called 'root' or install as different user.10:08
Dry_Lipsnrdb, well, I thought one was set up automatically?10:09
USAtrucker(must try to NOT be a smart a**)10:11
nrdbDry_Lips, try and connect to the data as root, I think you will find you can't.  I have never use phpmyadmin thou10:11
Wiz_KeeDHello Everyone10:12
Mace268i think he may just need to add a password for the root db user10:12
Wiz_KeeDI have managed to erase my ubuntu installation running a command like apt-get remove libsqllit3.* or something like that...10:12
Wiz_KeeDremoved, EVERYTHING10:12
Wiz_KeeDSo I have to take things seriously10:13
Mace268mysql root is different than system root, they're not related10:13
Wiz_KeeDAnd learn about package manager and how it handles things, can I please be informed on how I can view my last command as root in the broken installation? I have access to the folders10:13
Dry_LipsI've already got a passwd for mySQL root... , Mace268  I think you set it up when installing mySQL10:14
nrdbWiz_KeeD, try .bash_history10:15
nrdbcan anyone tell me why this simple python program http://paste.ubuntu.com/6091814/ does not display an icon?  I have been looking at lots of examples but none help!  And trying many slightly different args to the functions.10:16
Wiz_KeeDsudo apt-get remove libsqlite3-0sudo apt-get remove libsqlite3-010:17
Wiz_KeeDThis removed everything! :(10:17
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MonotokoWiz_KeeD: describe everything?10:26
Wiz_KeeDMonotoko: python,firefox,gnome,Dropbox....everything10:26
Wiz_KeeDNow i'm on a live cd trying to move my personal files and folders onto an external hard-drive because ubuntu doesn't boot anymore10:27
Monotokodo you have a log of exactly what it removed? All of those use sqlite, it's not a good idea to remove it10:27
Monotokowhy did you try to remove it?10:28
* nrdb I verify what is going to be removed before saying continue.10:28
Monotokogenerally it's not a good idea to remove any libs ubuntu comes with10:29
Monotokothey're packaged in there for a reason10:29
Wiz_KeeDpfff...had no idea, because I needed to install it for a ruby application to work and it conflicted with that10:29
ss_hazehow to restore lightdm-gtk-greeter10:30
Monotokoss_haze: what did you do?10:30
ss_hazekubuntu-backport repository gave update, that overtrow it for lightdm-kde-greeter10:31
Monotokohave you tried apt-get install lightdm-gtk-greeter?10:31
ss_hazedeleting kde-greeter or reinstalling gtk-greeter made it crash on bootup10:31
ss_hazeI have it installed10:32
Wiz_KeeDI have saved my files in home opt adn var10:32
Wiz_KeeDNow I can remove everything I suppose?10:32
Wiz_KeeDSince I want a reinstall10:32
MonotokoWiz_KeeD: you only really needed /home10:32
Monotokodon't try to use your old /var or /opt with the new installation10:33
Wiz_KeeDah no, I will jsut extract personal files from there10:33
Wiz_KeeDThere some in opt and a few in var/www10:33
ss_hazeevery random user will be persucueted with terminal, after this crash10:33
Monotokoyeah that's fine, go for the reinstallation10:33
Wiz_KeeDBut with that in mind it's enough I guess right?10:33
ss_hazeif they will delete kde-greeter10:33
ss_hazeso10:33
Wiz_KeeDPfuu10:33
Wiz_KeeDI want to install windows 8 as well10:33
ss_hazewhy the hell, things like this happen10:33
MonotokoWiz_KeeD: install Windows 8 first10:34
Wiz_KeeDWhen I return, could you suggest a method of image auto-backup Monotoko so If i mess up something bad i can always recover10:34
Wiz_KeeDinstalling wrong packages or disasters like this?10:34
Wiz_KeeDfor ubuntu 12.0410:34
Wiz_KeeDSince I think it's the best option?10:34
Wiz_KeeDUnless you have other suggestions10:34
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MonotokoWiz_KeeD: I'd just do a reinstall if I'm honest, unless you want full off-site backups10:35
Wiz_KeeDYes but I would want to recover the yesterday or an hour ago before i ran some stupid apt-get install command10:35
Wiz_KeeDBut I will come for advice here for any package I install...i had enough10:35
CatKillerWiz_KeeD: Snapshots then10:35
CatKillerthat's the solution for that10:35
Wiz_KeeDCatKiller: that sounds good!10:35
Wiz_KeeDhow you go about that?10:36
Wiz_KeeDAnd do you recommend ubuntu 12.04 or some other version?10:36
Wiz_KeeDI like this one since it's LTS and has somewhat updated package repositories10:36
CatKillerWiz_KeeD: Either block based (with LVM) or filesystem based (don't know what's best. zfs does it)10:36
CatKillerWiz_KeeD: I use 12.04 but I'm sure 13.04 is good too10:36
CatKillerdoesn't really matter10:36
MonotokoWiz_KeeD: You'd need somewhere to store them, then just use snapshotting software10:36
CatKillerunless you've got some incompatibility10:36
Wiz_KeeD13.04 is not lts and is not that updated with packages managers10:36
Monotokothere is plenty out there10:36
Wiz_KeeDOkay, can i come back and ask for help on-site once i've installed 12.04 in dual boot with windows?10:37
CatKillerWiz_KeeD: sorry your window for help has only 3.56 minutes left!10:37
Wiz_KeeDhaha :)))10:37
CatKillerWiz_KeeD: See you in a bit :)10:37
Wiz_KeeDThough i'm not 100% sure How i will go about that, I install windows 8 and when I partition the hard-disk I should leave some for Ubuntu or...?10:38
Wiz_KeeDshould install chat on my phone10:38
CatKillerWiz_KeeD: What you need to do:10:38
Wiz_KeeDI'm listening carefully CatKiller10:38
CatKiller1. Before installing Windows, using either Ubuntu or Windows tools, partition your drive and leave *blank space* for Ubuntu10:38
CatKiller2. Install windows on the partition you created10:38
CatKiller3. Install Ubuntu, in theory the installer will detect you have another OS and should be able to take the space unused, partition it and *install LVM*10:39
CatKillerthat's important because since newer revisions of Ubuntu use LVM10:39
CatKillerit's now possible to create snapshots "out of the box"10:39
CatKilleronly thing though is that you'll need some space to store the snapshots, so I'd still wouldn't use all of the free space10:39
CatKillerleave out maybe 10% of the drive10:40
CatKillerfor whatever use like snapshots10:40
Wiz_KeeDSo 2 partitions for Windows (C:/ and D:/) and blank space for Ubuntu then another 10% for LVM?10:40
K1CKA55Hello how do i revert my default kernel. right now i was able to select the right kernel via grub so i reckon it's still installed buti want to make my default kernel10:40
CatKillerso 1 partition for Windows, Ubuntu will create another partition and use it for LVM (you have to tell it to use LVM), but make sure to tell it not to use all of the free remaining space10:40
CatKillerWiz_KeeD: That sounds good10:40
CatKillerWiz_KeeD: But 2 partitions + blank space10:41
CatKillerWiz_KeeD: *then* when you install Ubuntu, it will partition the disk further and that's when you tell it to leave 10% free10:41
Wiz_KeeD50 gigs of blank space for Ubuntu and the rest divided in two for Windows10:41
Wiz_KeeDahh yes yes10:41
Wiz_KeeDGot it...10:41
CatKiller50Gigs for Ubuntu and then at the end of your install10:41
CatKilleryou should be left with all your partitions and 5G free for snapshots10:42
Wiz_KeeDThe world would be such a beautiful place if it was more similar to this chanel and people like you CatKiller , thank you so much for your support, I leave my phone on if I run intro trouble like the idiot I know I am10:42
Wiz_KeeDbrb10:42
sparks56##hamradio10:42
CatKillerWiz_KeeD-Android: Here's a nice guide for after: http://www.tutonics.com/2012/12/lvm-guide-part-2-snapshots.html10:46
Wiz_KeeD-Androidwow, goldmine!10:46
Wiz_KeeD-Androidon phone now10:47
TakumoAnyone got php-fpm working chrooted?10:47
Wiz_KeeD-Androidnow i have to make a usb stick bootable fot windoes10:47
TakumoI can't get mine to resolve DNS, does mount --rbind even work for a chroot?10:47
Wiz_KeeD-Androidbookmarked on phone CatKiller !10:48
CatKillerWiz_KeeD-Android: Cool10:48
tokern3hi. how can i disable unity notification?10:48
tokern3it popup in the middle of my work. and it is tooooooo bad10:49
tokern3 hi. how can i disable unity notification? it popup in the middle of my work. and it is tooooooo bad10:49
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CatKillerTakumo: Maybe the /etc/resolv.conf file isn't accessible?10:50
TakumoI tried copying /etc/resolv.conf /etc/nsswitch.conf and /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss_*.so*10:52
CatKillerTakumo: Not sure then, sorry10:53
TakumoThat's where I got to CatKiller , but I've still not found out how to fix it. I'd chroot into it myself but I get "/usr/bin/zsh to many symlink"10:54
CatKillerGood luck with that :)10:54
amjad_hello10:57
Wiz_KeeD-Androidpfff now thisnis good! The windows iso is 4.5 gigs and the dvd which are allegedly 4.7 do not have enough space to burn to10:57
Wiz_KeeD-Androidand nobody here has a uab stick :/...10:57
Ben64Wiz_KeeD-Android: ok... maybe ask someone in ##windows ?10:58
CatKillerWiz_KeeD-Android: You need a dual layer otherwise11:00
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Dr_Williscant say ive ever noticed a 4.7 GB DVD disk11:01
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rhumbothi all, when booting my system is getting a black screen since i updated my ubuntu 12.04. I get a "stoppinh system V runlevel compatibility" message. i googled lots of methods to fix this but nothing worked. can anyone help me? i really need to restore the system and cant just reinstall11:01
Dr_Willis!nomodeset | rhumbot11:02
ubotturhumbot: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter11:02
Dr_Willisrhumbot:  also test out the  'text' mode to see if you can get to a console.11:03
Dr_Willis!text11:03
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode11:03
mfiskindalyiğit11:06
mfiskindalhello11:07
ni232925hi .  anyone know how you disable echi_hcd in ubuntu 12.10 ?11:13
rhumbotDr_Willis setting nomodeset got me stuck in a a purple screen instead of a black one ...11:14
Dr_Willisrhumbot:  try the 'text' mode option11:14
Dr_Willis'noquiet nosplash nofb text nomodeset'   turns off about everything i can think of and should get you to a standard login: console prompt11:15
pierre940hey, I am reinstall ubuntu and I want to re-use an encrypted volume11:16
pierre940how do I do this? (in the installer)11:16
pierre940all data on it needs to stay intact11:17
Dr_Willismake backups - would be the Best thing to do. just in case11:17
pierre940that is what I am doing now\11:17
pierre940but it kinda beats the purpose of an separate /home partition11:17
pierre940having to format it each time11:17
pandaroot-gamais this available as pdf ? -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community11:18
jribpandaroot-gama: doubtful, but the official help.ubuntu.com guides are I believe (visit that link) and there's also the ubuntu manual11:19
pierre940I seem to remember you can re-use previously encrypted volumes (not LVM perse) using the alternate CD11:19
jrib!manual | pierre94011:19
ubottupierre940: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/11:19
jribpandaroot-gama: the message above from ubottu was for you11:20
pandaroot-gamathanks jrib11:20
pandaroot-gama:)11:20
pierre940lol11:24
pierre940the installer can't even re-mount the volume11:24
pierre940luckily I can still boot my system11:24
jribpierre940: what kind of encryption are you using on /home/11:25
pierre940not sure, the one that is usable on all partitions11:25
pierre940the one that is no file based11:25
pierre940don't know it's name to be honest11:25
jribpierre940: so not ecryptfs on each user's home?11:25
pierre940nope11:25
pierre940that's for sure11:26
jribpierre940: ok11:26
rhumbotDr_Willis it all changed: i cant get to the grub 2 menu. shift and or escape wont help. they just bring me to the console during the loading screen.11:29
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NastyNazim using nano to write simple python scripts. Can anyone recommend some easy-to-use version control system that automatically backsup my scripts so I can revert to a previous version later on?11:40
pierre940NastyNaz, there are no automatic version control systems11:40
pierre940you always have to create your own revisions11:40
pierre940what you can do however is use dropbox for example11:41
pierre940it keeps up to 15 previous versions of a file11:41
pierre940but this is horrible when working on a project with multiple files11:41
NastyNazso there isn't an easier way than renaming the file each time? I was hoping for something like a localised version of dropbox11:41
jribNastyNaz: i suggest you learn git (or some other currently popular vcs)11:41
pierre940indeed11:41
pierre940that is, if you want to have a future in software development you will have to learn git sooner or later11:42
pierre940NastyNaz, not saying it doesn't exist, but I don't know of any such program11:42
NastyNazright now I'm using it for some math modelling. my scripts are maximum 50-100 lines. was hoping there was a way that doesnt involve the timesink of having to learn git11:43
NastyNazok thanks11:43
pierre940NastyNaz, http://try.github.io/levels/1/challenges/111:43
jribNastyNaz: you can learn enough for what you are doing in about 10 minutes; actually, probably less than the time you've spent in this channel11:43
pierre940it really isn't that hard11:43
pierre940if you follow those challenges you know enough11:43
pierre940and it is localized as long as you don't add a 'remote'11:44
jribNastyNaz: git init (do this once).  git add file.py; git commit -m 'fixed foo to do bar' file.py (rinse and repeat)11:44
somsipNastyNaz: FYI, this is close (but not the same) but the answers may be helpful: http://is.gd/ONjHgU11:44
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NastyNazI didn't know it was that simple. Thanks I'll have a look at it11:45
jribNastyNaz: slowly, you can learn more as you need/want to do more.  That's the best way to approach it.  The git-scm.com book is great11:45
cellfrostcz?11:52
DJones!cz | cellfrost11:52
ubottucellfrost: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.11:52
cellfrostok11:52
Zeckion32#linux OS made easy11:55
toddaaroanyone around who can help with xorg issues? have tried both radeon and fglrx and I can't get any screends detected11:55
toddaarovariety of crashes, segfaults, etc.11:55
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aneesh_what is best way to increase the size of ubuntu server . My root folder is already full .11:57
aneesh_or is it possible to mount the /home folder to another harddisk11:58
jrib!separatehome | aneesh_11:58
ubottuaneesh_: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving11:58
aneesh_thanks jrib ubottu11:58
Moscherkoboldikonia: i was able to create a adhoc network but unfortunately my smartphone can not see it, but the wifi scan widget shows the network12:01
pipo201ciao12:01
pipo201!list12:02
ubottupipo201: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».12:02
pipo201!list12:03
pierre9400_o12:03
DJonespipo201: This isn't a file sharing network, that command doesn't work here12:04
ActionParsnipaneesh_: uninstall old kernels and run:  sudo apt-get clean12:04
ActionParsnipaneesh_: there s no single best way to do anyting12:04
mr-blahI cannot get ubuntu to install.12:06
MrQuistthats too bad.12:07
mr-blahIt won't install grub12:07
rhumbotcould someone support me with my "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility" problem?12:07
mr-blahsays that it installs, then boots to windows12:07
rhumbotim loading into a black screen12:07
rhumbotnomodeset didnt help12:07
mr-blahat startup it says 'couldn't load boot/efi' then goes to windows12:08
mr-blahcould this be intel anti theft, or this oprom setting?12:10
mr-blahI'm about to give up on it.12:11
lkeijserhi, how to I report a bug in a package (resource-agents) for ubuntu 12.04.2 ?12:12
mr-blahworse yet, ubuntu messed up my windows install, so now the ethernet won't work12:13
jrib!bug | lkeijser12:15
ubottulkeijser: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.12:15
mr-blahwhy is ubuntu such a pain w laptops?12:16
lkeijserjrib: thanks12:16
mr-blahI have the boot repair cd, no luck there12:17
Ben64!efi | mr-blah12:18
ubottumr-blah: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI12:18
mr-blahBen64: already looked at it, tried it; didn't work12:18
aneesh_<ActionParsnip> ok12:19
zaggynlHi, I'm trying to install the adaptec 5404 drivers but I can't find a 12.04 driver here: http://www.adaptec.com/en-us/support/raid/sas_raid/sas-5405/12:20
Ben64mr-blah: you might have to turn off secureboot and/or set the bios to bios emulation mode12:20
Moscherkoboldany idea about that: I was able to create a adhoc network but unfortunately my smartphone can not see it, but the wifi scan widget shows the network12:20
aneesh_ActionParsnip can add new hardisk to existing server and move the home folder to that harddisk12:21
mr-blahBen64: i turned off secure boot12:21
mr-blahBen64: and i don't know what bios emulatin mode is.12:22
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Ben64mr-blah: well i12:22
Ben64t'd be in your bios if the option exists12:22
lkeijserthere, bug reported as a good open source user :)12:23
lesshastewhat is the difference between dist-upgrade and upgrade?12:24
Ben64the man page for apt-get has the answer12:24
Moscherkoboldlesshaste: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/apt/apt-get?redirect=no12:25
lesshasteit says "dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade,  also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages"12:25
lesshastebut then what does upgrade do?12:26
lesshastedo it stupidly?12:26
Ben64the man page says what upgrade does as well12:26
mr-blahBen64: it looks as if my hd has no efi partition. could that be the problem?12:26
lesshasteah.. the difference is that dist-upgrade might remove some packages?12:27
unknown__i got a question12:27
Ben64lesshaste: and add some, yes12:27
lesshasteok thanks12:27
unknown__So i have this skiller keyboard12:27
unknown__its wired connected12:27
unknown__but ubuntu 12.1012:27
unknown__don't support it12:27
unknown__is there any way to make it work?12:27
ActionParsnipaneesh_: suer, you can mount the partitions as user home folders if you want12:29
mr-blahhow large should the boo efi parttion be?12:31
unknown__ubuntu 12.10 don't support my keyboard any idea?12:31
Ben64unknown__: the keyboard is broken? the port is broken? none of your usb ports are working? we have no way of knowing without more details.12:32
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unknown__Ben64: nothing is broken12:33
unknown__everything its working the drivers are not supported in ubuntu12:34
unknown__when i first installed ubuntu 13.1012:34
unknown__keyboard was fine12:34
unknown__i switched to 12.10 and the keyboard is not working12:34
Ben64unknown__: why would you downgrade12:35
unknown__I found 12.10 a better version12:36
Ben64well you'll need to upgrade to 13.10 before january or lose support12:36
unknown__If i do it i'll lose my stuff?12:37
unknown__no right?12:37
Ben64shouldn't, but you should have backups anyway12:37
unknown__can skype 12.4 version work with 13.10?12:38
ARW0heyo12:38
unknown__hi12:38
DJonesunknown__: You'll be better asking about 13.10 in #ubuntu+1 thats the support channel for the development version12:38
unknown__what version of ubuntu are you guys running?12:40
tasslehoffAnyone know if it's possible to use both the displayport and the vga output on a lenovo t530 at the same time?12:40
gordonjcpunknown__: 10.04, 12.04, 12.10, 13.04 and 13.1012:40
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an3ksorry for making fun of you all the time till two days ago ... when I installed Ubuntu the first time. It was like the move from Symbian^3 to iOS. Now it's peramently running on my notebook :)12:41
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an3kwhile windows 7 never could get the notebook getting warm and always had a ugly design, Ubuntu heats its up as hell (=it knows how to use the hardware) and looks very nice too :)12:43
an3kI just can't run it on my computer. Installation runs well but after logging in the first time the systems first starts to lag extremely and completely freezes ~20 seconds later12:44
unknown__How can i upgrade all my drivers usin terminal?12:44
Sj__hi12:44
unknown__hi12:45
Sj__any help on X11 entensions?12:45
an3kI tried the x64 version first but since the sys hang up i tried the x86 one but here I have the exact same problem.12:45
Sj__i'm getting "xcomposite required" error when i launch my application12:45
an3kmaybe because nVIDIA? Once I saw a "typical gfx card error"12:45
Sj__any packages do i need to install?12:45
Sj__glxinfo |grep "OpengGL" output is this12:46
Sj__OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc. OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300) OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4 OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 OpenGL extensions:12:46
ferrsup does anyone know why do I need double click for signs like ¨ ! and etc on my keyboard12:47
Alveinhi all12:47
Alveincan network card stop transfer data with active link?12:47
philinuxunknown__: what version are you running and what do you want to do12:48
ActionParsnipaneesh_: you will need to copy data over then mount at boot, or you can mount it as one of the folders in a user's $HOME and use it for casual data12:49
ActionParsnipSj__: what video chip do you use?12:50
g105bI'm developing an app that uses the Webcam, but my dev machine doesn't have a camera - is there a way I can use an image/video source as a "fake" webcam so my app sees the device?12:51
toby10antHi, I'm looking to become more involved with ubuntu community, is ubuntu jam a physical meetup? Is much happening in england?12:52
ActionParsnipg105b: http://hardc0l2e.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/fake-webcam-in-ubuntu-linux/12:53
DJonestoby10ant: There is a UK based channel #ubuntu-uk that it will probably be worth asking in12:53
ActionParsnipg105b: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139239/fake-a-webcam-using-a-video-loopback-device12:53
toby10antDjones: thanks :)12:54
mrrcpanyone here on 12.04 with virtualbox?12:56
mrrcphow do i get the usb to work?12:56
ActionParsnipmrrcp: do you have the guest additions installed?12:59
mn3na3aquestion, i get kernel panic when i log out...what should i do?12:59
aneesh_<ActionParsnip> this is what exaclty i am looking for. Mounting as folder in users home directory12:59
ActionParsnipaneesh_: then make a folder and add an entry for it in /etc/fstab13:00
mrrcpActionParsnip: i guess not13:00
mrrcpit isnt working lol13:00
mrrcphow do i do that13:00
mrrcpso ActionParsnip .. should i install with apt-get or the files off the virtbox site?13:00
mrrcpi had a kernal error with the apt-get install so i went to the site13:01
aneesh_ActionParsnip ok13:01
ActionParsnipmrrcp: its a menu option in the top of the virtual OS window13:02
ActionParsnipmrrcp: there are _tonnes_ of how to videos on YouTube for this...13:02
unknown__how to upgrade my ubntu version?13:02
ActionParsnip!upgrade | unknown__13:02
ubottuunknown__: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade13:02
mrrcpso should i use the apt-get install or the one off the site?13:03
mn3na3aanyone can help me about kernel panic?13:03
ActionParsnipmrrcp: that wont give you guest additions13:04
ActionParsnipmrrcp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q84boOmiPW813:06
northHey all, I need help in screen/window highlighting while doing screencasts13:06
northany suggestions ?13:06
universalhow to make wifi keyboard led to blink whenever data is sent or received sp as to signify data transfer ?13:08
unknown__any free vpn for linux?13:11
compdocopenvpn13:11
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aneesh_ActionParsnip.  sorry  for asking this stupid question . I have already a folder named uploads in my home directory. I just need to move it to new hardisk. so you said mount it as one of the folders in a user's $HOME . which is location i need to specify on  fstab.13:12
salamandre85can some1 help me with a crash on Ubuntu 12.04LTS13:13
salamandre85updated to 3.5.0.40-generic headers, system accidentally loaded Win7 after restart13:16
Yu-YuHi! Does anyone use a2dp headset with Ubuntu 13.XX successfully?13:17
BlitzHereSo, I'm confused. I'm all set to buy this laptop. http://www.flipkart.com/samsung-np350v5x-s01in-laptop-3rd-gen-ci5-4gb-500gb-dos-2gb-graph/p/itmdk6ybebthyjzt?pid=COMDK6Y9NHD8H8RX&otracker=browse&pageNum=2 . But it's got an AMD Radeon HD 7670M graphics card...and I keep reading horror stories about Ubuntu and AMD cards....13:19
BlitzHereShould I go ahead with the purchase or should I back off and buy something else?13:20
BlitzHereI don't want to spend too much time troubleshooting and setting up the computer13:20
BluesKaj'Morning all13:20
BlitzHereI've heard from a couple of sources that things work just fine but I just want to put it out here and see what comes up...13:21
Yu-YuBlitzHere: FYI, as for me, I do prefer AMD over Intel. While it's all your choice, still. And be I you, I could come and boot from LiveUSB to see myself.13:21
BlitzHereI have a13:22
BlitzHereYu-Yu: I have a live USB for this purpose but I can only seem to find this particular laptop online :P....13:23
Yu-YuBlitzHere: Yah, certainly I see that after-reading. ;D13:23
BlitzHereYu-Yu: What AMD cards have you used and are there any quirks in Linux that I should be aware of?13:24
BlitzHereI do think I'll be playing some games on steam...so, I will probably want the Graphics acceleration from the proprietary drivers...13:25
Ari-YangBlitzHere, for one thing... the proprietary driver, fglrx, is horrible most of the time (I think it might be okay for HD2000-4000, not sure).13:25
theGrgHello. I see that medibuntu is no longer maintained. Any PPAs recommended?13:25
Ari-YangBlitzHere, no fglrx is horrible, horrible 2d acceleration, and the open source drivers run your gpu HOT13:25
Ari-Yanguntil....13:25
Ari-YangBlitzHere, check this out http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM5NjE13:26
Ari-YangBlitzHere, right now, kernel 3.11 with Mesa from git is better than fglrx13:27
Ari-Yang(this is with open source drivers)13:27
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penguinRaiderI want to remove all the repos from /etc/apt/sources.list  that give 404 error I can do that manually one by one .But is there a way to remove them all at once from command line ?13:27
BlitzHereWhat's Ubuntu 13.10 going to use again?13:27
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universalBlitzHere: you are paying so much so the laptop doesnt has thunderbolt and esata moreover camera at 1.3m is kinda very poor plus only upto Sata II is supported.....with so much money look for a Sata III interface13:28
Ari-YangBlitzHere, not sure.... maybe ubuntu 13.10 will use kernel 3.11...13:28
Ari-Yangwill it?13:28
Ari-YangBlitzHere, ubuntu 13.10 will use kernel 3.1113:31
pznI need to add a HP T120 printer to ubuntu. this printer is a continuous paper (60cm x 50meters) or A3 color inkjet. it uses PCL3. how can I add it to ubuntu?13:31
Ari-Yang!13.1013:31
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+113:31
compdocnext month13:31
BlitzHereuniversal: I'm not sure if I can find a better deal. I wanted 4 USB ports and a numpad. I'll look around a little bit more...13:32
BlitzHereAri-Yang: Thanks! I might be able to manage till next month...13:33
Ari-YangBlitzHere, but I'm not sure if it will be using Mesa 9.2, the version where you can use UVD...13:33
Ari-YangBlitzHere, atm I'm running kernel 3.11 on ubuntu 12.1013:33
BlitzHereHmm, okay13:34
bccany one got any ideas on what I can do when I log onto my laptop, second monitor is always "turned off".. have to unplug and plug it back in.. then okay13:34
Ari-YangBlitzHere, I asked on #ubuntu+1 will let you know any new info I get13:35
BlitzHereI'm going to look at more laptops. Making sure of compatibility with Ubuntu is annoying. I just turned down a free Toshiba S55-A5294 because of issues with Ubuntu...13:35
MrQuistits already working13:37
Ari-YangBlitzHere, just get a laptop with nvidia that has good performance with its proprietary drivers?13:38
theGrgAnyone recommends PPAs?13:38
Ari-YangBlitzHere, if this laptop will only be for gaming, I recommend a laptop with Windows 7 on it....13:39
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salamandre85hi all13:40
BlitzHereAri-Yang: Gaming is secondary. It's going to be a general purpose laptop. If it seems like AMD is too much trouble and I can't find anything decent with an Nvidia card, I'll just but something without a card...13:41
salamandre85I accidentally loaded windows after the latest update on 12.04LTS13:41
flametai1Hello everyone, I'm going to be installing Ubuntu 13.04 along Windows 8, is there still a "windows" installer for it? I can't remember the program that used to be able to install it right inside of windows. And no I'm not talking about any VMware or anything.13:41
blazemore!wubi13:42
ubottuWubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug13:42
DJones!uefi | flametai113:42
ubottuflametai1: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI13:42
blazemoreflametai1: But I don't recommend it unless you KNOW you need that13:42
blazemoreflametai1: I'd recommend just doing a regular installation on a real partition13:42
Ari-YangBlitzHere, tbh AMD is kind of tricky, tbh I say you just roll with Nvidia.... why do you want to install ubuntu?13:42
BlitzHereAri-Yang: Maybe something like this. Apparently it's certified to run Ubuntu...13:42
BlitzHerehttp://www.flipkart.com/lenovo-thinkpad-e530-33661g0-laptop-3rd-gen-ci3-2gb-500gb-dos/p/itmdnyhdpwndkzdk?pid=COMDNYH9BXEGCHGM&otracker=browse&pageNum=113:42
KrisostoomusNew site up and running, tell me what U think of it(in contact information->comments): http://webchef.netau.net/13:43
salamandre85Login page doesn't load after Grub, just a flash of the TTL login then just a text cursor flashing in the corner13:43
Yu-YuKrisostoomus: What?13:43
flametai1blazemore: Been having troubles making a bootable usb for some reason, keeps telling me "A problem with a system application has been detected" or something along those lines. Made the usb multiple times, never had trouble a long time ago doing it. And I have no CD-r's right now unfortunately13:43
ChogyDanflametai1: I don't think wubi is supported anymore13:43
Ari-YangBlitzHere, I see... perhaps https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/galu1 ?13:44
blazemoreflametai1: What are you using to make a bootable USB? And on what platform?13:44
Yu-Yuflametai1: Didn't you follow the guidelines on preparing LiveUSB at Ubuntu.com?13:45
BlitzHereAri-Yang: If I was in the states, then I would have just bought a system76 laptop and been done with it...13:45
Ari-YangBlitzHere, oh...13:46
BlitzHereI know they ship to India but customs can be a pain13:46
flametai1blazemore: And that's when I start the installer app. I'm using "Universal USB installer 1.9.4.1" on Windows 8, Yu-Yu I wasn't able to find those instructions haha, Been awhile since I used Ubuntu. I've also tried doing it manually too.13:46
BlitzHereTax is about 18% apparently...13:46
blazemoreflametai1: Take a look at LiLiUSB (my favourite) or unetbootin (community standard)13:47
Yu-Yuflametai1: It's directing you to use the it.13:47
blazemoreflametai1: Then reboot your PC and boot from the USB drive13:47
flametai1blazemore: I used to use LiLi, couldn't remember the program though haha. Thank you for reminding me :D13:47
Yu-YuFeels like it can't finish making up that USB pen.13:47
flametai1I'll be back13:47
CharlosHello all !13:49
CharlosI have identified the Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2H-USB3 as meeting my needs but before buying I wondered if anyone else was using that board and had anything to report, good or bad. for install in Ubuntu 13.04   ?13:49
salamandre85!ops13:49
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!13:49
Picisalamandre85: yes?13:49
MrQuistwat13:50
Ari-Yang....13:50
PiciOkay then.13:50
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Charlos?13:50
Charloswhat do u say  ?13:50
CharlosI have pc Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2H-USB3  good or bad. for install in Ubuntu 13.04   ?13:51
oynmrzber!patience13:51
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/13:51
smooresTrouble with a cron script. It sends me an email but it's empty. If I take I execute the command on a shell without the script the email is full of it's text. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6092565/13:52
smoorescan you not pipe text through in a script? what should i do?13:53
BlitzHereAri-Yang: Ubuntu, when it works, is simpler and faster for me. I have a load of experience with Windows till Windows 7 and windows 8 terrible to the point that I want to kill the laptop.13:53
Ari-YangBlitzHere, I see... well then get a laptop with a nvidia card that works just fine with ubuntu, sounds like you need to do some googling. good luck13:54
Homely_GirlGreetings holders of all Ubuntu knowledge!13:55
BlitzHereAri-Yang: Thanks for all the help!13:55
Ari-Yangyou're welcome13:55
rostamHI is the toolchain version has changed from LTS 12.04 to LTS 12.03 update 3?thx13:55
universalwhats wrong with win7....it was good, though not as fast as xp, I haven't used win8  BlitzHere13:56
universalit is good now also...just not open13:56
Ari-Yanguniversal, doesn't really matter...13:57
Homely_GirlMy Firefox needs a shockwave plug in, help?? I'm using Firefox on Ubuntu 12.04 (I think, the latest one) lol13:57
Ari-Yangthis is a support channel for ubuntu universal, off topic stuff can be discussed on #ubuntu-offtopic13:57
universalAri-Yang: better take your laptop help to ubuntu-offtopic13:58
Ari-Yanguniversal, pardon?13:58
oynmrzberHomely_Girl: Do you mean actual old shockwave plugin, or Adobe Flash?13:59
Ari-Yanguniversal, that doesn't make any sense whatsoever, smells like you just want to fight :|13:59
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Homely_Girloynmrzber: The msg I'm getting is that page requires Adobe shockwave player. :(14:00
oynmrzberHomely_Girl: What page is it?14:00
oynmrzberHomely_Girl: You can install Adobe Flash with the package "flashplugin-installer". Adobe never made a version of Shockwave for Linux14:00
Homely_Girloynmrzber: 2 secs I'll get it for you. it's a silly game I like (don't judge me)14:00
universalAri-Yang: naah, I'm not interested - make yourself happy14:00
Homely_Girloynmrzber: http://www.miniclip.com/games/adventure-elf14:01
Ari-YangHomely_Girl, maybe install adobe flash player plugin? run in terminal sudo apt-get install flashplugin installer14:01
oynmrzberCan someone who's not at work go on the above link and tell me if it's actual shockwave, or just flash?14:02
Ari-Yanglol you need shockwave14:02
Ari-Yangadobe shockwave player needs to be installed14:03
universal!info shockwave14:03
ubottuPackage shockwave does not exist in raring14:03
Homely_Girloynmrzber: That did not work, shall I copy the error?14:03
oynmrzberHomely_Girl: Yes14:03
Ari-YangHomely_Girl, I don't think there is a shockwave player for linux...14:04
Ari-Yanghttp://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/alternates/ take a look there, Homely_Girl14:04
fidela simple "apt-cache search shockwave" lists some gnash-packages which might help. no personal experience with that topic14:04
Homely_Girloynmrzber: I pasted it in paste bin now what? :)14:05
oynmrzberHomely_Girl: Now tell me the URL14:06
Ari-YangHomely_Girl, then you'd probably run sudo apt-get install gnash14:06
Ari-Yangbased on what fidel said14:06
Lunar_LampHomely_Girl: this might be helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave14:06
Homely_GirlThanks everyone, info overload!! lol14:07
BlitzHereuniversal: I don't know. It seems heavy, bloated and prone to getting messed up with some random piece of crap or the other. Not to mention the anti virus apps are annoying to the point that they feel like viruses themselves.14:07
Ari-YangHomely_Girl, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnash14:07
BlitzHereThen you have the fact that every single windows system I've taken care of slowed down in a year14:07
universalBlitzHere: true...go with Dell, they have pre-installed ubuntu machines14:08
ChogyDanHomely_Girl: I think the wine route is the only one14:08
BlitzHereI'd actually pick a Mac over windows and day14:08
Ari-YangChogyDan, no it's not...14:09
Homely_GirlChogyDan: I think I'll stick to my dual boot for now. ;)14:09
BlitzHereuniversal: yeah, thanks! I'll go to the store tomorrow and check them out14:09
universalHomely_Girl: welcome to the world of linux and ubuntu.....wait for a while and it will not be just an overload but more like information bombardment lol14:09
Homely_Girluniversal: at least I know about apt-get 'n stuff! lol14:09
Ari-YangHomely_Girl, did you check out gnash?14:09
ChogyDanAri-Yang: gnash is flash not shockwave14:09
Homely_GirlAri-Yang: Just installed it....14:09
universalHomely_Girl: haha14:09
Ari-Yangah I see...14:10
universallong way to go14:10
universalBlitzHere: its infront of computer empire, I don't remember the name of the building though14:10
Homely_GirlAri-Yang: brb, lemme try now (loves how my system doesn't need to reboot for stuff to take effect, Linux is just superior!!)14:10
Homely_GirlAri-Yang: Thanks for trying, I'll stick with dual boot for now....I only usee xp for skype video and Adventure Elf on miniclip! :)14:11
* Yu-Yu has wiped Adobe/Shockwave Flash Player out of her machines. 14:11
Ari-YangHomely_Girl, alright.14:12
Homely_GirlI prefer to do my usual surfing in Linux tho!!14:12
traffiqCan anyone help me with an issue I have with my graphics card?14:12
oynmrzber!anyone14:12
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.14:12
Homely_GirlThanks oynmrzber too14:12
oynmrzberHomely_Girl: don't give up! http://askubuntu.com/questions/48140/compatible-version-of-adobe-shockwave-player14:12
Homely_Girluniversal: stop trying to pic fights either lol14:12
traffiqWell can someone help?14:13
oynmrzbertraffiq: it depends. Ask your question and find out14:13
Ari-Yang!details | traffiq14:13
ubottutraffiq: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:13
ActionParsnipshockwave hasnt owned flash for years now14:13
oynmrzberActionParsnip: shockwave plugin != flash plugin14:13
Homely_Girloynmrzber: This is how ppl become Geeks 'n obsessed, not giving up 'eh!!14:13
traffiqMy issue, is I cannot get my native resolution in Ubuntu. I already installed the graphics driver, too.14:13
oynmrzber!details > traffiq14:14
ubottutraffiq, please see my private message14:14
ActionParsnipoynmrzber: yes but shockwave used to own flash, before adobe bought i14:14
geniiShockwave relies on ActiveX in Windows14:14
traffiq!details14:14
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:14
traffiqI just said what the issue was...14:14
universalHomely_Girl: lol...no no never....I'm a peaceful human being who believes in peaceful co-existence of every living being :)14:14
ActionParsnipsorry, macromedia. They bought it in 200514:14
traffiq"My issue, is I cannot get my native resolution in Ubuntu. I already installed the graphics driver, too."14:14
oynmrzbertraffiq: What ubuntu version are you using? What graphics card do you have?14:14
Yu-Yu;D14:14
Homely_GirlAri-Yang: When I used to use IBM OS/2, there was a great keystroke "Ctrl Esc" and I could see a list of all programs running, anything like that in Ubuntu?14:15
oynmrzbertraffiq: What did you already try?14:15
traffiqI am using 10.04, and I have the NVidia 9100 graphics card.14:15
oynmrzberHomely_Girl: the "ps" command14:15
Homely_Girluniversal: and who likes to push Ari-Yang's buttons on occasion!! lol14:15
traffiqThe thing I don't get, is I have never had this issue in 10.04.14:15
oynmrzber!eol | traffiq14:15
ubottutraffiq: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades14:15
Homely_Girloynmrzber: wtf is that???14:15
ActionParsniptraffiq: 10.04 is EOL on the desktop14:15
oynmrzberWe dont support Ubuntu 10.04 any more traffiq14:15
traffiqI have no other choice to upgrade. When I upgrade, I get the same issue.14:15
ActionParsnipoynmrzber: we do, just on server14:15
Ari-YangHomely_Girl, well there is system monitor... you could assign a keyboard shortcut to it if there isn't one that's already set...14:16
ActionParsniptraffiq: clean install Precise14:16
oynmrzberHomely_Girl: use the command "ps aux" to see a list of processes14:16
Ari-Yangand no, universal didn't push any of my buttons, he just showed that he's a bit immature.14:16
traffiqIsn't 12.04 outdated as well?14:16
oynmrzberActionParsnip: #ubuntu-server supports that14:16
Ari-Yangtraffiq, no14:16
Ari-Yangit's LTS...14:16
Homely_Girloynmrzber: I don't want to go to terminal for it!! lol14:16
oynmrzbertraffiq: No, 12.04 is the current Long Term Support release14:16
traffiqAnd what if this issue happens again?14:16
oynmrzbertraffiq: Ask again if that happens14:16
Homely_GirlAri-Yang: I am trying to GET a life, not become glued to my pc lol But I know a linux on command line person to do it for me, thanks!14:17
traffiqAlright, let me go download the ISO.14:17
universalAri-Yang: thnx for your not asked for assesment....shows how mature you are......14:17
Yu-YuHomely_Girl: How do you want that actually to work like?14:17
oynmrzberHomely_Girl: You could use the System Monitor or similarly named (I can't remember exactly) it's similar to windows' task manager14:17
universalHomely_Girl: I'm not interested in her.....I'm not pushing any of her buttons14:17
Homely_Girluniversal: Go back 2 your kbrd 'n be a good geek <joking>14:18
traffiqI wish you could get Gnome 2.x on Ubuntu 11.04 and over, but it's not an option. :/14:18
traffiqAnd Gnome classic just doesn't do it.14:18
Homely_GirlAri-Yang: Whoo hoo a female geek, go girl!! :)14:18
StrykeI am in need of assistance. I have the Canon MP287 All-in-one printer and i was able to get the drivers from Canon's website, but after installing them, when i tried checking the ink levels, it only gave me the "Marker levels are not reported on this printer" error need help please14:19
Ari-Yang....Homely_Girl why are you assuming I'm a girl? :|14:19
ActionParsniptraffiq: sure it is14:19
universallol14:19
Ari-YangHomely_Girl, this is kind of off-topic >_>14:19
ActionParsniptraffiq: just because you don't know about something doesn't mean it simply doesn't exist as a thing14:19
Ari-Yangoh universal thought I was a girl haha14:19
Homely_GirlAri-Yang: universal called you a her! lol14:19
universal#ubuntu-offtopic - someone suggested this before14:19
traffiqWhat?14:19
ActionParsniptraffiq: is that how you really think?14:19
traffiqI didn't say it didn't exist...14:19
* cfhowlett remember: the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.14:19
traffiqI said Gnome classic just doesn't do it for me. It just doesn't feel and look like Gnome 2.x.14:20
universalAri-Yang: well I assumed but I also assume you know it14:20
oynmrzberStryke: Does the Canon Linux driver report ink levels?14:20
oynmrzberStryke: It might not even be designed to14:20
ActionParsniptraffiq: tried Cinammon?14:20
StrykeI'm not really sure, but after i installed the drivers it didnt work14:20
traffiqCinammon lags like all hell for me.14:21
ActionParsniptraffiq: or install Xubuntu and get the familiar 2 panel session and is also LTS14:21
Strykewell it was from canon so i assume they should put that there14:21
traffiqEvery Linux Mint release does.14:21
oynmrzbertraffiq: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?14:21
Ari-Yangtraffiq, lubuntu is faster than xubuntu, though not LTS iirc14:21
traffiqAnd Xubuntu is fine but when I installed Xubuntu 12.04 and newer, I still got the graphics issue.14:21
ActionParsniptraffiq: cinammon is in the official ubuntu repos from Raring and up14:21
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traffiqI even tried Lubuntu too.14:21
Strykeoynmrzber I'm not really sure, but after i installed the drivers it didnt work14:21
ActionParsniptraffiq: what video chip do you use?14:21
traffiqLubuntu failed to install.14:21
traffiqI have a NVidia 9100.14:21
Strykeoynmrzber well it was from canon so i assume they should put that there14:21
linux|newbI created a logical volume group and subsequent volume out of two disks. one at 250GBwhich started the volume and the second at 3TB... when I added the 3TB drive I had to chose the space in MiB I wanted to increase the volume by, so I calculated roughly 3TB but it kept returning that it was too big, so I kept reducing... now my LV is only 2.20TiB as opposed to like 3TiB as I'd expect14:22
ActionParsniptraffiq: sadly 12.04 Lubuntu is not LTS :(14:22
ActionParsniptraffiq: did you install the nvidia-current package?14:22
traffiqI've tried a lot of stuff.14:22
cfhowlettActionParsnip, they promise it'll be LTS for 14.0414:22
traffiqI've tried that as well.14:22
ActionParsnipcfhowlett: yeah!!!? awesome!14:22
Ari-Yangtraffiq, mind typing this in terminal? lspci | grep VGA14:22
Ari-Yangand c/p the output14:22
linux|newbis there a way of forcing the logical volume to expand to the max size available on the physical disks?14:22
ActionParsniptraffiq: and:  sudo nvidia-xconfig14:22
linux|newbor do I need to rebuild?14:22
Yu-YuPeople, I'm having troubles with a2dp bluetooth headset, and it's gonna kill me.14:22
traffiqI've done nvidia-xconfig14:22
ActionParsniptraffiq: did you try tweaking xorg.conf some?14:23
traffiqWhen I do and I stop GDM and restart it (or restart my PC), I get like a max 600 and some resolution.14:23
CatKillerYu-Yu: Sounds like you should throw the headset out of the window before it does! :)14:23
oynmrzberlinux|newb: Boot from a LiveCD and install system-config-lvm it gives you a GUI14:23
traffiqAnd yes, I tried messing with the xorg.conf.14:23
Strykeanybody got any ideas?14:23
Yu-YuCatKiller: I didn't say I'm having troubles with the headset. ;D14:23
oynmrzbertraffiq: I think you should install a supported version of Ubuntu, chances are all your driver problems will disappear by themselves14:23
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traffiqWhen I do: lspci | grep VGA, I get: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C78 [GeForce 9100] (rev a2)14:24
CatKillerYu-Yu: Sorry for the side comment, other than that I can't help you (no experience with those)14:24
linux|newboynmrzber: cheers14:24
ActionParsniptraffiq: tried a different screen?14:25
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Strykeok, i guess no one knows then14:27
blazemoreGuess not :\14:28
linux|newboynmrzber: presumably there is a way to do it from the command line... I'm not gonna have physical access to the server for some time and would like to rectify this soon... happen to know an alternative that I'll issue via an SSH session14:28
linux|newb?14:28
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ActionParsnipStryke: remove the printer and power it off then reboot and log in14:28
ActionParsnipStryke: then setup the printer using http://localhost:63114:28
StrykeActionParsnip how do I set it up using cups? o_o sorry i'm new at this14:30
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nisyhalo14:36
nisyanyone there14:36
* CatKiller watches as 1774 people say "yes"14:36
CatKillernisy: You can just ask your question right away14:37
nisyok thanks14:37
BlitzHereWhat does this mean?14:40
BlitzHereUSB 3.0 devices are seen only as a USB 2.0 before suspend14:40
BlitzHereOn this page14:40
BlitzHerehttp://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201202-10641/14:40
awayI guess you won't be able to utilize the full speed of 3.0 devices?14:41
BlitzHereI hope not. That's like a deal breaker bug. I can't see how it would be certified with a bug like thar14:42
mhdI have a two screen 12.04 machine which just had one of it's screens spontaneusly dim.14:42
mr-blahI obviously don't understand this MBR.GRUB thing14:43
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an3kBlitzHere: I think it means before suspend USB3.0 = USB2.0 and after suspend USB3.0 = USB3.014:44
traffiqI'm installing Ubuntu 12.04 right now (on the Live USB).14:44
traffiqI've had 1 problem already. When I try to set my resolution on the Live USB from 1024x768 to 1280x1024, my screen goes black and I have to restart the Live USB.14:45
blazemoretraffiq: Wait until you have the real installation and can get the driver14:45
traffiqAlright. We'll see what happens.14:45
Yu-Yubb14:45
BlitzHerean3k: Er, yes. That's exactly what it says. What does that mean? Would I have to plug the device in, put the laptop to sleep and then switch it back on to make UB 3.0 work?14:45
traffiqI have a strong feeling the same will happen as what did on 10.04, but we'll never know.14:46
traffiqWell until it's installed, of course. :P14:46
blazemoretraffiq: We will... in a few minutes14:46
n00b_dusttraffiq, might be a stupid question, but you sure your monitor supports 1280x1024?14:46
traffiqYes, 1280x1024 has been used on it for a while.14:46
an3kBlitzHere: If you really need USB3.0, yes14:46
n00b_dustthen you need drivers. after installation14:46
traffiqAnd I've used Linux for various years as well.14:46
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traffiqWell I installed the drivers before and the native resolution still couldn't be set.14:47
an3kBlitzHere: perhaps standby is enough, try that first.14:47
traffiqIt's ready! :D14:47
traffiqI'll restart, install the drivers, see what happens, and come back on here and tell you.14:47
mr-blahsolution: i am going to format the entire drive, destroying windows install, and if that does not work, i'm throwing this laptop out the window into the street.14:47
justaguystandy on my laptop just takes lots off my battery, on windows it did not, what could be the cause off this?14:47
universalBlitzHere: prepare one ubuntu live usb and go in showrooms and test urself....before buying...i think it will be best rather than flipkart...a few hundreds are nothing compared to complete compatibility and peace of mind14:48
justaguyit's like lets go to sleep laptop fully loaded 100% , then i wake up 10 hours later, BAM , only 70%14:48
StrykeActionParsnip I sent you a PM14:48
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User573stu "d!ckless" lantz betrays all; trannys + queers(chaste Homos/a$$holes), rule; andrea hylton/tranny, Q bama, Q dubya, statelocalgov.net, usa.gov, cia.gov (world leaders), http://biz.yahoo.com/i/ , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament#List_of_national_parliaments , nndb.com, opec.org14:49
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* cfhowlett ... thinks trolls are trolling hard tonight.14:49
mr-blahubuntu has hosed yet another hard drive14:50
an3kmr-blah: what's the problem? sry, joined later?14:50
gordonjcpmr-blah: how have you managed that, then?14:50
blazemorecfhowlett: Perfect timing by the way ;)14:51
n00b_dustmr-blah. yeah what issues are you having with mbr / grub?14:51
an3kjustaguy: when you turned your notebook back on using windows, how fast was it back online? Did you see the mostly black "loading screen"?14:51
n00b_dusteven i joined in late14:51
mr-blahwell i installed ubuntu, then it kept booting to windows. so i got the startupdisk repair cd, and tried some of the stuff in th uefi ubuntuhowto article\14:51
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mr-blahn00b_dust: it won't work14:51
blazemoreAre you getting an error mr-blah ?14:51
justaguyan3k: no, it was instantly on14:51
n00b_dustso the grub prompt doesn't show at all? it directly boots into windows?14:52
mr-blahblazemore: not anymore. it doesn't work at all now14:52
an3kmr-blah: put in the setup dvd, reboot from it and when install asks you "want to replace XYZ with Ubuntu" select that14:52
n00b_dustif you remove windows right now, you won't be able to boot up into ubuntu. thats not how it works14:52
mr-blahn00b_dust: at first it was no grub prompt, then i could get the grub prompt, but the windows path was bad14:52
n00b_dustyou can fix the windows path yourself. its just an entry in a file that you can access from ubuntu14:53
mr-blahan3k: yeh, if i wanted to kill windows. i think ubuntu did that for me already. second computer this week :(14:53
canevesHi. I need some direction. I have a suggestion to send to Ubuntu developers but the Ubuntu Brainstorm is closed. I will really appreciate some help.14:53
an3kjustaguy: how old is the notebook? designed/certified for windows vista or 7?14:53
cfhowlett!contribute|caneves,14:53
ubottucaneves,: contribute is To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu14:53
canevescfhowlett, many thanks.14:53
cfhowlettcaneves, NP14:54
mr-blahgordonjcp: i didn't manage that then; ubuntu does it fone on its own14:54
caneves!contribute14:54
ubottucontribute is To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu14:54
an3kmr-blah: as long as the windows data is untouched nothing except the bootloader is broken ;)14:54
justaguyan3k it's 1 year and 6 months old , and no idea if it is certified or not, i removed that anoying stickers after 1 week14:54
gordonjcpmr-blah: no, it doesn't14:54
smoorescan you not pipe text through in a script? what should i do?14:54
smooresTrouble with a cron script. It sends me an email but it's empty. If I take I execute the command on a shell without the script the email is full of it's text. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6092565/14:54
mr-blahan3k: well i can't fix it soo its as good as broken14:54
gordonjcpmr-blah: what exactly did you do?14:55
blazemoresmoores: I think your issue here is the user that script is running as14:55
smooresblazemore: root?14:55
blazemoresmoores: Whose crontab is that?14:55
mr-blahgordonjcp: alot, i've been working on this stupid thing for 8 hours14:55
blazemoresmoores: So when you test it and it works, do you test it as root?14:55
an3kjustaguy: ok. it may be possible that windows didn't found a suitable driver and used a standard driver instead. that driver uses only the basics and thus doesn't pull more energy out of the battery14:55
n00b_dustmr-blah. what option did you select when you were installing ubuntu??14:55
blazemoremr-blah: Doesn't "update-grub" work?14:55
mr-blahblazemore: i habe never seen that option14:55
smooresblazemore: Yeah, if I copy the command from the script and execute it in a shell it sends me an email with content.14:56
blazemoremr-blah: Go to a liveCD and run the command: "sudo update-grub"14:56
mr-blahn00b_dust: do something else14:56
smooresblazemore: if I just execute the script on a shell it sends me a blank email14:56
justaguywell an3k , i will just shutdown my ubuntu because it only takes 45 seconds to startup ubuntu :D14:56
blazemoresmoores: Yes, but as root? type in "sudo -s" and then try running the command, see if it still works14:56
n00b_dustmr-blah: "update-grub" isn't an option. its a command14:56
mr-blahblazemore: don't have the perms for that14:56
an3kjustaguy: i noticed it with my notebook. with windows it never got hot or even warm. standby for "days". with ubuntu it gets hot sometimes and has a fair standby time for such an old notebook :)14:56
blazemoremr-blah: From a LiveCD14:56
mr-blahn00b_dust: at terminal prompt?14:56
n00b_dustmr-blah. yeah...at terminal...you need to use sudo.14:56
mr-blahi think that its too far gone :(14:57
blazemoremr-blah: Boot from a liveCD and run the command: "sudo update-grub"14:57
gordonjcpmr-blah: you're doing something wrong then, it should take about ten minutes to install Ubuntu14:57
an3kjustaguy: 45 seconds? that's long. My notebook is nearly 8 years old and boots up in ~30 seconds14:57
mr-blahblazemore: can i use usb stick?14:57
blazemoremr-blah: Yes14:57
n00b_dustok just type "sudo fdisk -l" in the terminal and see if the windows and ubuntu partitions are still there..you can make them out by the free disk space of each drive14:57
mr-blahgordonjcp: i need help fixing this.14:58
justaguyan3k: my time is just a guess :p14:58
smooresblazemore: sorry i lied, executing the script on a shell works too. it just doesnt work through cron but its in roots crontab14:58
cfhowlettmr-blah, I "broke" my triple boot windows 7, ubuntu, OSX several times before I discovered that that the OS was present, I just needed to massage the boot parameters.  It's not hard, but it does take time and patience.14:58
gordonjcpmr-blah: well, what have you done?14:58
an3kjustaguy: then i hope you just have a bad guessing instead of bad hardware ;)14:58
smooresblazemore: and yeah i'm currently in a root shell14:58
mr-blahcfhowlett: i figured that, but how do i massage the boot parms? i have tried changing the flags, installing a boot/efi14:59
justaguyan3k: yeah, thanks for the help14:59
cfhowlettmr-blah, choose one guru in the channel and work with him.  Ignore the rest.  gordonjcp offered to help and I've got to go ...15:00
adjihUnable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?15:00
adjih  //how can I fix it?15:00
blazemoreadjih: Does this occur even after a reboot?15:00
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mr-blahgordonjcp: what i have now: a fat32 windows recovery partition, and an ntfs windows partition with a boot flag. it will not boot.15:00
adjihlloks like after one update failed15:00
blazemoremr-blah: Did "sudo update-grub" work?15:00
traffiqSee, I knew it.15:01
jgkadjih: are you from India?15:01
mr-blahblazemore: haven't done that yet15:01
traffiqI cannot set my resolution to my native.15:01
cfhowlett!who15:01
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)15:01
blazemoretraffiq: What steps did you take to install the dirver?15:01
traffiqI installed the recommended graphics driver as well.15:01
traffiqI went into Additional Drivers and installed it.15:01
blazemoreRemind me what graphics card you have?15:01
traffiqNVidia 910015:01
traffiqGeforce15:02
blazemoreAnd this is Ubuntu 12.04 now?15:02
traffiqYes.15:02
Salamandrehallo15:02
justaguy16:59:55 up 124 days, 13:24,  1 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.0515:02
justaguywhat is yours?15:02
justaguy:D15:02
an3kjustaguy: °_°15:02
mr-blahblazemore: in my bios, it still lists ubuntu as a boot option, even though its been erased... why?15:02
traffiq11:02:57 up 9 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.75, 1.10, 0.64 <- You know it.15:03
traffiqLul15:03
SalamandreI installed the 319 (Latest, whatever that is) Nvidia drivers on 12.04 LTS and ran the full update.15:03
an3k 17:03:25 up  1:50,  2 users,  load average: 3,63, 3,04, 2,9415:03
blazemoremr-blah: That's a UEFI thing, if you ever find out, let me know15:03
traffiqI did the same, Salamandre.15:03
Pici!ot | justaguy an3k15:03
ubottujustaguy an3k: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:03
traffiqI installed version 319.15:03
Salamandremessed up the restart and loaded WIndows by accident15:04
justaguysorry :s15:04
blazemoremr-blah: My flash drive is called Fedora forever now by my BIOS15:04
traffiq@blazemore Do you know how to fix it?15:04
mr-blahgordonjcp:  i seriously need help15:04
Salamandrenow it won't start15:04
gordonjcpmr-blah: so which are you trying to boot?15:04
blazemoretraffiq: The only thing I can suggest is xorg-edgers PPA, one sec15:04
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mr-blahgordonjcp: at this point, i don't care which15:05
traffiq@blazemore What is xorg-edgers?15:05
blazemoretraffiq: Try the post-release update driver version forst15:05
gordonjcpmr-blah: okay, so boot the Linux partition and add your Windows partition to GRUB15:05
blazemorefirst* in the Additional Drivers tool15:05
mr-blahgordonjcp: how do i add the windows partition to grub?15:05
blazemoremr-blah: "sudo update-grub"15:05
blazemoremr-blah: That is what that does15:05
traffiq@blazemore I will have to wait until like 12:00 PM (it's 11:05 AM right now).15:05
blazemoretraffiq: That's... weird. But sure.15:06
mr-blahblazemore: trid that it says eroor: cannot get cannonical path of /cow15:06
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blazemoremr-blah: You ran "sudo update-grub" and it told you that?15:07
Salamandre@blazemore is there a way I can boot the GUI with the old 304 drivers?15:07
mr-blahblazemore: yes.15:07
traffiq@blazemore I will still be here, but I just can't restart my PC right now. I am busy with something.15:07
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blazemoremr-blah: Can you put the full error message on http://paste.ubuntu.com15:07
SalamandreOk, I'ma try another restart15:08
mr-blahblazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6092874/15:09
blazemoremr-blah: you ran "sudo update-grub" and that is literally all it said?15:11
mhdIs there an easy way to modify mouse sensitivity in one dimension without affecting another?15:11
mr-blahblazemore: yes15:11
blazemoremr-blah: Can you please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"15:12
blazemoreI will help you in 10 mins15:12
mr-blahblazemore: ok15:12
MileyCyrushappy national day of Catalonia15:13
mr-blahhahahah now it won't even boot from the usb stick.15:15
linux|newbI have a logical volume made up of two physical volumes, one at 250GB and one at 3TB. In FDISK the 3TB shows up as 3TB but in  pvdisplay shows as 2TB... how do I expand the PV to use it's full 100%?15:16
Daisyab_hi, i have two ubuntu login accounts but  i recently tried to intall xampp but typed in a wrong path so now, i cant access the superuser account.  Any help is appreciated15:17
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sab0hi..i am using ubuntu 10.04, was trying to install libreoffice, but getting this error   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6092891/    can any one suggest me how to solve this, thanks!15:19
blazemoresab0: We don't support 10.04 on the desktop, I don't think the packages are available any more15:20
LinuxGoldhow do I figure out the default package that 13.04 came with?15:20
blazemoreDaisyab_: What happens when you try, do you get an error?15:20
LinuxGold13.04 Ubuntu server15:20
blazemoreLinuxGold: What do you mean by "default package" ?15:20
blazemoreLinuxGold: What sort of answer are you expecting?15:20
LinuxGoldwhen I tried to update the grub, it acts like it is using grub 1 instead of grub 215:21
LinuxGoldcreated menu.lst not grub.cfg15:21
blazemoreLinuxGold: What did you do to update grub?15:21
LinuxGoldupdated-grub15:21
sab0blazemore, thanks for the info, so in that case if i want to use libreoffice on my 10.04 its not possible anyhow?15:21
ihreI'm trying to install vmware-workstation, but it segfaults upon starting. Can I create a backtrace of the install process?15:21
LinuxGoldafter I installed kernel15:21
LinuxGoldupdate-grub I mean15:22
Daisyab_blazemore: no error. when i input the password, the screen goes blank for a second, then returns to the login page15:22
blazemoreLinuxGold: What's the output of grub-install -v15:22
blazemoreDaisyab_: You can't log in as root on Ubuntu15:22
LinuxGoldI manually apt-get install grub215:22
blazemore!root | Daisyab_15:22
ubottuDaisyab_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo15:22
LinuxGold 15:23
blazemoreLinuxGold: What's the output of grub-install -v15:23
LinuxGoldgrub-install (GRUB) 2.00-13ubuntu315:23
sab0can any one please advice me how can i install libreoffice on my 10.04 ubuntu?15:23
blazemore!eol15:23
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades15:23
blazemoreThat's grub 2, LinuxGold15:24
zalgsab0: download the file, untar it, follow instruction15:24
LinuxGoldblazemore: yes, that was after I apt-get install grub2 after problems15:24
blazemoreLinuxGold: grub2 should already be installed, what problems are you referring to?15:24
Daisyab_blazemore: i've got two accounts and i have been logging into them before with ease.15:25
LinuxGoldwhen I update-grub last night after removing 3.11 kernel, rebooted and found out that it was using menu.lst not grub.cfg15:25
blazemoreDaisyab_: What account are you trying to log into? root?15:25
sab0zalg, thanks...i was trying to install it by adding ppa for libreoffice but getting error,15:25
blazemoreLinuxGold: If you're not having problems, and you're on a server, I'd let it be to be honest15:25
Daisyab_ubottu: i'm not guessing, i've been using the password for over a year15:26
ubottuDaisyab_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:26
mr-blahblazemore: i figured out why those boot etnries still appear in the bios...15:26
LinuxGoldmy question: where can I find list of default packages that Ubuntu 13.04 server are using15:26
trfsrfrMy Libre doesn't have the font I want. How do I get it?15:26
blazemoretrfsrfr: What font is that?15:26
Daisyab_blazemore: yes root15:27
Daisyab_blazemore: and i've been doing it for 1+ year15:27
blazemoreDaisyab_: How...? You can't log into root on Ubuntu by defaulty15:28
blazemoreDaisyab_: Did you change root's password?15:28
gordonjcpDaisyab_: don't set a root password, that's just stupid15:28
gordonjcpDaisyab_: root logins have been obsolete for about 20 years15:28
LinuxGoldso ubuntu server 13.04 is not offically supported?15:29
PiciLinuxGold: sure it is.15:29
LinuxGoldok, just wondering15:29
blazemoreit's the most recent version, LinuxGold, you can be sure its supported15:29
LinuxGoldm15:29
LinuxGoldk even15:29
mr-blahblazemore:  let me know when you want to look at this15:30
blazemoremr-blah: When you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l", that's all I'm waiting for15:30
trfsrfrblazemore: Nice name. I'm looking for georgia.15:30
blazemoretrfsrfr: Isn't that a Microsoft font?15:30
mr-blahblazemore:  here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6092943/15:30
blazemoretrfsrfr: Install the package: msttcorefonts15:30
blazemoremr-blah: There's no Ubuntu installation on that system15:30
mr-blahblazemore:  and here is the output of the startup disk repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/6092915/15:31
mr-blahblazemore:  i removed it15:31
blazemoremr-blah: Right... and now you're trying to get Windows to boot?15:31
mr-blahblazemore:  i'm trying to get anything to boot15:31
blazemoremr-blah: Do you still have your Windows installation CD?15:31
mr-blahblazemore:  no15:31
blazemoreGo into #windows and ask them how to recover the Windows bootloader without the installation DVD15:32
mr-blahblazemore:  i use ubuntu for work normally15:32
LinuxGoldhttp://pastebin.com/d061MrUi15:32
LinuxGoldhmm grub and grub2 coexist15:32
mr-blahblazemore:  i've never had any problems like this15:32
blazemoremr-blah: You could go through the installation like normal?15:33
mr-blahblazemore:  yes15:33
mr-blahblazemore:  same as always15:33
blazemoremr-blah: That would install ubuntu and a boot menu, and let you boot into both Ubuntu and Windows15:33
trfsrfrblazemore: thank you.15:33
mr-blahblazemore:  thats why i'm here. it usually works fine15:33
blazemoremr-blah: But there's no Ubuntu on your machine, I don't see how it usually could work at all15:33
mr-blahblazemore:  i removed it, in order to eliminate variables...15:34
blazemoremr-blah: Well, install it if you want to use it15:34
blazemoremr-blah: Or, ask #windows if you don't15:34
mr-blahblazemore:  so when i reinstall, do i make a logical partition?15:34
blazemoremr-blah: Up to you15:35
mr-blahblazemore:  i need to install ubuntu properly, which i obviously did not do this time. can you recommend a configuration?15:35
blazemoremr-blah: I'd use the guided partitioning if I were you, the advanced partitoning is usually reserved for people who have the ability and knowledge for it15:35
mr-blahblazemore:  i normally handle it.15:35
blazemoreWell this time, why not try letting the installer handle it?15:36
mr-blahblazemore:  how can i learn?15:36
blazemoremr-blah: Set up a custom partition scheme but just use primary partitions15:36
mr-blahblazemore:  the installer is not affording me the option i want: install along side.....15:36
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LinuxGoldah, found my problem.15:36
LinuxGoldthanks all15:37
blazemoremr-blah: That usually occurs when you have an ntfs partition on the drive which is unclean and needs chkdsk running from WIndows15:37
mr-blahblazemore:  that was the initial problem, it was limiting the # of primary partition, so i could not get swap space.....15:37
mr-blahblazemore:  aaahhhhh....15:37
mr-blahblazemore:  like i said, i can usually handle this fine.15:37
blazemoremr-blah: Since you don't have Windows you can use ntfsprogs I think it's called. But be careful15:37
mr-blahblazemore:  any idea why it would be limiting my # of primary partitians?15:38
blazemoreYou can only have 4 primary partitions15:39
blazemoremr-blah: If you want more, make an Extended partition which uses all remaining available space. You can then fill this with unlimited Logical partitions15:39
blazemoremr-blah: You can use the "gparted" program on the LiveCD to do this, you don't have to use the fiddly installer15:40
jgkAnyone here use Ubuntu 515:40
jgkIs that the latst version?15:40
blazemoremr-blah: Then once you have set up your partitions how you want, use the custom partioning section of the installer to choose the mount points of each one: you will need at least "/" and "swap"15:40
jgkI havent been keeping up15:40
mr-blahblazemore:  four does not seem like alot.. that is how my other ubuntu machines are set up.15:40
LinuxGoldjgk: 12.0415:40
blazemorejgk: Supported versions are in the /topic15:40
blazemorejgk: Ubuntu 13.04 is the latest15:40
jgkohhhh15:40
jgkwhat can mine do?15:40
blazemorejgk: Nothing, it was released in 200515:41
blazemoreIn 2005 I hadn't learned calculus yet15:41
traffiq13.10 is nice, but I still had my resolution issue. :/15:41
blazemore13.10 isn't released yet, or supported until it is15:41
mr-blahblazemore:  ubuntu installer hosed my system :(15:41
traffiqYes it was.15:41
blazemoremr-blah: I just gave you a massively in-depth partiotioning guide, what did you do!?15:41
blazemoretraffiq: The clue's in the name, THIRTEEN point TEN won't be released until the TENTH month of twenty THIRTEEN15:42
kostkontraffiq: #ubuntu+115:42
traffiq@blazemore I'm not retarded, type in normal letters not capitals. Also, yes, I've used 13.10.15:43
mr-blahblazemore:  i didn't do anythin i haven't done before. there is somthin screwy going on .15:43
traffiqThere's been a beta released already.15:43
blazemoretraffiq: Not for Ubuntu proper, only for the spins. And its still not supported til its released15:43
traffiqhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ <-15:43
Picitraffiq: this is not a supported release.15:44
mr-blahblazemore:  i do appreciate the help though. these problems arent your fault15:44
blazemoreThey're daily builds, there was never a beta15:44
traffiqI didn't say it was.15:44
Picitraffiq: okay, lets move on then.15:44
Daisyab_sorry about that15:44
mr-blahblazemore:  i think this requires a very high skill level to fix.15:44
b1001hi, is there an program that can tile your windows like xmonad using unity?15:44
blazemoremr-blah: Have you considered backing up the contents of your ntfs partition to an external drive, and then jsut nuking the entire system?15:44
traffiqPici, YOU can move on; the conversation was between blazemore and I.15:44
blazemoremr-blah: It's what I'd do. Backup and clean slate15:44
blazemoretraffiq: move on15:45
traffiqNah, I don't want to.15:45
ActionParsnipb1001: http://wiki.osuosl.org/development/deprecated/tiling_windows_with_compiz15:46
ActionParsnipb1001: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Df0CY4tkm0.15:46
Daisyab_blazemore: do you have any idea on how i can fix this problem?15:46
traffiq@blazemore You said to install the post release driver, correct?15:46
ActionParsnipb1001: http://superuser.com/questions/150193/window-tiling-in-gnome-without-compiz15:46
blazemoreDaisyab_: What is the name of the user you are trying to log in to?15:46
mr-blahblazemore:  omg, nuking, now  you are talking my language. ntfs won't mount in linux though right?15:47
blazemoremr-blah: Yes it will, no problem. Especially if you only want to read15:47
Daisyab_blazemore:its the superuser15:47
blazemoreDaisyab_: You type in "its the superuser" as the username?15:47
seynbhahaha15:47
blazemoreUsernames don't support spaces15:47
traffiq@blazemore You said to install the post release driver, correct?15:47
hawke_Hi all…I’m trying to get Ubuntu (13.04) to auto-mount my hotplugged USB hard drive. I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB and org.gnome.desktop.media-handling.automount / org.gnome.desktop.media-handling.automount-open were already set true, but it still won’t automount. What else might be wrong?15:47
Daisyab_blazemore: its Denis15:47
blazemoretraffiq: correct15:48
mistawrighthey guys ive got a quick question. How can i find out how a program was installed.  mainly php5. I can't remember if I built it from source or installed from a repo. im using ubuntu 12.04 lts for a server and have php 5.5.1 installed15:48
blazemoreOK Daisyab_ I was just establishing it wasn't root15:48
seynbdpkg -s php5*15:48
traffiq@blazemore Shit. There are 2: 304, and 319.15:48
Daisyab_actually it is15:48
seynbmistawright: dpkg -s php515:48
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blazemoretraffiq: The higher number15:49
traffiq@blazemore I chose it. It's installing.15:49
blazemoreDaisyab_: no, root is special15:49
traffiq@blazemore When it's done, I'll come back and say what happened.15:50
Guest87161hello ppl.. i am going through a nightmare trying get Windows 7 and Ubuntu 13.04 to dual boot.. could someone point me to a link that they know works.. i've tried to google but the top 5 links are not helping.. thanks15:50
blazemoreDaisyab_: If you were actually logging in as root, you would have had to jump through hoops to get to that. So what's happening is, you're trying to log in as normal, but its just dumping you back to the login screen?15:50
mistawrightseynb, thanks worked perfectly differently from source15:50
seynbmistawright: np15:50
blazemore!details | Guest8716115:50
ubottuGuest87161: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."15:50
Daisyab_exactly15:50
blazemoreDaisyab_: Can you log in as another user sucesfully?15:51
Guest87161basically.. i first install windows 7 (leaving space for Ubuntu).. but when i try to install ubunty.. it doest see the windows 7 that is already installed15:51
Guest87161blazemore, ^^^15:51
hawke_Is there a https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB updated for Ubuntu 13.04? it seems to always be talking about "System" > "Preferences" > "Removable Drives and Media" which no longer exists.15:51
blazemoreGuest87161: Can you boot into Windows OK?15:51
Daisyab_yes, i ca15:51
Guest87161blazemore, yes15:51
Daisyab_*can15:51
blazemoreGuest87161: Use Windows to check your drives for errors, then Ubuntu installer can deal with Windows partitions15:51
seynbGuest87161: have you tried selecting the manual partitioning option in setup?15:51
streulmahello, if I install Ubuntu in BIOS mode, then I can not change brightness, if I install in EFI mode it works15:52
seynbGuest87161: because the default option is to use the whole disk which would overwrite windows15:52
blazemoreDaisyab_: OK, log into the other user and open a terminal, then try switching to the erroring user with "su username"15:52
Guest87161seynb, yes.. it doesnt see the partitions that windows created15:52
blazemoreDaisyab_: It'll ask for that user's password15:52
blazemoreGuest87161: Are you on the liveCD right now?15:52
Guest87161blazemore, yes15:52
streulmahow can I change the brightness in BIOS Mode, or is it better to install Ubuntu in EFI mode ?15:53
Daisyab_i've done that15:53
Guest87161blazemore, ubuntu installer doesnt acknowledge presence of windows os or its partitions15:53
blazemoreDaisyab_: And it worked OK? if you run the "whoami" command do you see the new user name?15:53
seynbGuest87161: have you checked the output of fdisk -l ?15:53
blazemoreGuest87161: Can you open a terminal and run the command "sudo fdisk -l"15:54
hawke_is 'udisks --monitor' supposed to do something when I plug in a drive?15:54
hawke_(It looks like Ubuntu uses udisks these days?)15:54
Guest87161blazemore, seynb that complains about detecting GPT and craps out15:54
Daisyab_yes, it gives me the erroring username but the ls command shows me directories in the other user15:55
blazemoreDaisyab_: That's fine, that's expected15:55
blazemoreDaisyab_: What Ubuntu version is it? You probably already told me15:55
Daisyab_11.0415:55
blazemoreRight well we don't actually support that but15:56
Wiz_KeeDpumper: Hey guys15:56
Wiz_KeeDHow do I properly learn how to use apt-get to know the consequences of installing and removing several packages15:56
blazemoreAfter you su to the erroring user, run the command "sudo chown ~/.Xauthority `whoami`"15:57
blazemoreDaisyab_: ^15:57
blazemoreWiz_KeeD: Don't say "Y" without reading what it will do :)15:57
hawke_Apparently udisks detects my drive ('udisks --show-info /dev/sdb1' shows 'detected at: [current time]') — but it won’t automount. It does show up in nautilus and I can click to mount it, but it won’t automount. :-(15:57
Wiz_KeeDBecause some pages after you install them ans say "Hey I want to remove everything like it was before" most people say "sudo apt-get purge package or apt-get remove package --purge" and then you ask "Will that remove everything?" the answer is always "Sort of..."15:57
Wiz_KeeDblazemore: I just did that this morning and now i'm reinstalling ubuntu15:57
Daisyab_it gives me a message that says chown: missing operand  after 'home/denis/.Xauthority'16:00
Daisyab_what does that mean16:01
Daisyab_in researching, i saw Xauthority.  What does that mean16:01
blazemoreDaisyab_: try this: sudo chown denis: /home/denis/.Xauthority16:01
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Wiz_KeeDAlso on the official documentation it says that apt-get is a evolved version of people manually compiling sourced themselves16:01
Wiz_KeeDhow does that make make install actually work and how does it differ from apt-get install16:02
Wiz_KeeD?16:02
blazemoreDaisyab_: (I got it the wrong way around, sorry :3 )16:02
blazemoreWiz_KeeD: apt-get will download and install already compiled and packaged versions. It will track their versions and dependencies16:02
mr-blahblazemore: the guys in #windows said that this will fix the first problem: http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/  , and also i will maybe try backup/nuke like you said.16:02
mr-blahblazemore: thanks.16:02
blazemoreWiz_KeeD: a "make" script compiles from source, and copies files to their intended locations16:02
blazemoremr-blah: Hiren's boot CD is something I've heard of, and seems to be well regarded. Good luck16:03
Wiz_KeeDhow can it compile programs that are written in different languages16:03
Wiz_KeeDjava, c, c++, ruby, python16:03
blazemoreWiz_KeeD: "make" is just a script16:03
Wiz_KeeDone command to do it all?16:03
blazemoreWiz_KeeD: The actual compilation is done by gcc, javac etc16:03
MortimerCatLIST16:03
blazemore!list > MortimerCat16:03
ubottuMortimerCat, please see my private message16:03
Wiz_KeeDSo the make identifies the programming language used, and fires the proper compiler16:03
blazemoreWiz_KeeD: the Makefile is written by the person who wrote the software, it's not magic16:04
Wiz_KeeDahhhhh16:04
blazemoreWiz_KeeD: It's all manual16:04
Wiz_KeeDmakes more sense now16:04
Wiz_KeeDAnd that is basically a bash script the issues commands one after another?16:04
blazemoreWiz_KeeD: Essentially that, yes. Take a look inside one and you'll see straight away how it works16:04
hawke_Wiz_KeeD: It’s not bash; it’s a separate scripting language. But otherwise, yes.16:05
Wiz_KeeDSo 3 questions from here: 1.What would be the advantage of apt-get over this 2. How do you completly remove after installing with apt-get and 3.How do you know where the manual compilation placed all the files and remove those?16:05
Daisyab_blazemore: no problem16:05
blazemoreWiz_KeeD: apt-get is better because its already packaged for the correct Ubuntu version, you won't have to spend hours making sure your libraries are the correct versions and in the right places16:05
Wiz_KeeDhawke_: what's the scripting language used? or it's just an executable that can be in several different languages16:05
blazemoreWiz_KeeD: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename16:05
hawke_Wiz_KeeD: 'make'. ;-)16:05
blazemoreWiz_KeeD: Regarding manual compilation, you'd have to look at the makefile and see where it put all the files16:06
Wiz_KeeDouch...16:06
PiciWiz_KeeD: apt also ensures that your packages are kept up to date as new versions are published on the repositories.16:06
Wiz_KeeDThat is if you do apt-get upgrade right Pici?16:06
blazemoreWiz_KeeD: You may be lucky, they may have written a "make uninstall" or similar16:06
PiciWiz_KeeD: well, of course.16:06
hawke_Wiz_KeeD: 1. you don’t have to spend the time to compile it (large stuff like openoffice/xorg takes forever); you don’t have to worry too much about dependencies (apt-get handles it for you, you don’t need to manually dig up obscure libraries) — 2 'apt-get remove --purge' will remove the packages — 3. it’s almost always in /usr/local if you didn’t tell it otherwise16:07
Wiz_KeeDSomeone from ruby suggested I remove libsqlite3 because it was giving errors about package dependencies smth, removed it with apt-get remove and didn't look at the confirmation and pressed Y16:07
hawke_(and yes, 'make uninstall' sometimes exists/works, but don’t count on it)16:07
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Wiz_KeeDby the time I've seen removing firefox, python, gnome...twas 2 late my dearies16:08
Wiz_KeeD:(16:08
mr-blahblazemore:  solution: mounted ntfs and using ubuntu to burn the windows recovery iso i made, then nuke and reinstall.16:08
blazemoreVmSize:   209712 kB16:08
blazemoremr-blah: Good luck16:08
mr-blahblazemore: thanks, and thank you for your halp16:09
Wiz_KeeDand sources that are already compiled with apt-get are just put in the right place to run16:09
Wiz_KeeDKinda hard to see the whole picture comming from windows and all that16:09
Wiz_KeeDBut this is defenetly the best step16:09
Wiz_KeeDand if i want to update my Dropbox or Skype I just do sudo apt-get upgrade Dropbox (package_name)16:10
MariusITguys did  Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS dropped support or something? I'm getting  Failed to fetch 404 error on apt-get update.16:10
qinWiz_KeeD: To put it simply, if you want to compile and play around - ubuntu is quite poor choice, here you DO use package manager and tools provided... and Ruby people cannot be trusted...16:10
traffiq@blazemore, I still can't set my native resolution.16:10
Wiz_KeeDhaha, found out the hard way qin :(16:11
Wiz_KeeDYou also have bad experience with them?16:11
hawke_So anyway folks…is there any good/up-to-date documentation on how to get automount to work?16:11
MonkeyDusthawke_  you mean aprt from /etc/fstab ?16:12
traffiq@blazemore Did you see my message?16:12
blazemoreyes traffiq16:12
hawke_MonkeyDust: I mean such that when I plug in a USB device, it mounts it.16:12
blazemoreSorry I can't help you16:12
blazemoreHopefully someone else can16:12
traffiqAlright then.16:13
blazemoreGoing home in 15 minutes16:13
MonkeyDusthawke_  normally it does that out of the box, any errors when you try?16:13
hawke_MonkeyDust: Nope. It just doesn’t mount. It shows up in Nautilus and if I click on it, it will mount.16:13
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traffiqDoes anyone know how to fix this issue: I cannot set my resolution to my native. I've already installed my graphics driver. My native resolution is 1280x1024, but I can set only a maximum of 1024x768.16:14
hawke_MonkeyDust: dconf org.gnome.desktop.media-handling.automount is set to 'true'16:14
blazemoretraffiq: Might you have to use the nvidia tool to change the resolution, rather than the Ubuntu display properties? Just a thought maybe16:14
traffiqI have been using the NVidia settings tool for that.16:14
traffiqIt still doesn't have the option.16:15
traffiqI've tried even adding the option, AND setting my resolution via Xrandr. All failed.16:15
blazemoretraffiq: try sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak and then reboot16:15
MonkeyDusthawke_  so it's mounted, but you want the window to open automatically ?16:15
hawke_MonkeyDust: It’s not mounted16:15
traffiqI've tried messing with the config, but I'll try to move it. brb.16:15
hawke_MonkeyDust: http://imagebin.org/270580 — it shows up, but not mounted16:17
hawke_(note the lack of an eject icon16:17
traffiq@blazemore Nothing changed.16:18
MonkeyDusthawke_  pastebin the output of      mount16:18
blazemoretraffiq: Just to rule out something stupid: you are running "gksudo nvidia-settings" and not just "nvidia-settings" ?16:18
traffiqNo, I'm not.16:18
blazemore:D do it16:18
traffiqHow would that make any difference?16:19
blazemoreI think you need to be root to make changes, you do with AMD16:19
MonkeyDusthawke_  try this    dconf-editor -> org -> gnome -> desktop -> media-handling -> check automount_open.16:19
hawke_MonkeyDust: it already is.16:19
hawke_MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6093153/16:19
traffiqI opened it with gksudo and I still don't see my native resolution in the list.16:20
RyChannelhello folks16:20
blazemoretraffiq: Can you please pastebin the output of "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?16:20
blazemoreI really want to sort this before I go home traffiq :P16:20
RyChannelI have a package that apt-get tries to start after running updates... Since it already is running it throws errors... How do I go about changing it so it restarts the service instead16:20
MonkeyDusthawke_  odd, and what ubuntu version is that?16:20
hawke_MonkeyDust: 13.0416:21
blazemoreRyChannel: That sounds like a bug, what is the package? It shouldn't be packaged so shoddily16:21
traffiqYeah, one second.16:21
RyChannelblazemore, varnish16:21
traffiqGive me a second to get the output, blazemore.16:22
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MonkeyDusthawke_  i was wrong just now, usb device behaves the smae here, also with dconf modified, don'n know why it won't open or mount16:25
MariusIThow is this possible http://pastebin.com/F6BDJP2Z ? i can browse the repo's manually16:25
hawke_MonkeyDust: At least it’s not just me. :-/16:25
ikoniaMariusIT: because http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Source doesn't exist16:26
MariusITit's from http://repogen.simplylinux.ch16:26
ikoniaMariusIT: so ?16:26
MariusITermmm16:27
Sami345Is there an "arch-chroot" equivalent on Ubuntu?16:27
Wiz_KeeDDo you guys recommend LVM in order to make proper backups/snapshots to restore at a later time if you should mess things up?16:27
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: no16:27
MariusITikonia: any ideea what are the original ones for 12.04.2?16:27
ikoniaoriginal what ?16:27
Wiz_KeeDWhy's that ikonia? and what would you recommend?16:27
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: depends on a huge ammount of things, it's not a black/white answer16:27
Wiz_KeeDI need some arguments though or another suggestion to research16:28
ikoniado research on the pros/cons16:28
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: it can certainly do what you want, but there are cons to it16:29
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Wiz_KeeDLike? and what would be a good alternative?16:29
ikoniaas I said, it's not black and white / yes / no answers16:30
ikoniait depends on a lot of things16:30
lars__hi, i have a problem with my graphic drivers i get a error message when i boot up (i use nvidia cards). anyways im logged in without the good graphic so i can install the proper drivers, so i found the drivers but now i cant find my "additional drivers" in System settings16:31
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enen92hey there, which desktop enviroments are u using with ubuntu?16:31
|Anthony|has anyone been able to get echo cancellation to work in mumble?16:31
Wiz_KeeDI'll tr to find an alternative and if I cannot i will stick wtih lvm16:31
* LinuxGold is running HP Pavilion Slimline 3100n desktop PC running Ubuntu 13.04 server and kernel 3.8.0-30-generic. seeing i2c i2c-3 sendbytes NAK bailout error every few seconds, what is NAK bailout error?16:31
Wiz_KeeDalthough I am just starting to read and understand what it is16:31
mizu_no_otoWhat's the best way to specify that a scalacheck property holds forAll non-negative integers?  Just saying forAll((x:Int) => foo(x.abs) ) fails because -2147483648.abs = -214748364816:33
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mizu_no_otogah16:34
mizu_no_otowrong channel16:34
Wiz_KeeDUh niiiiiceee16:35
Wiz_KeeDSo with lvm I can leave 70 gigs for Ubuntu and if i redecide i can make it smaller or bigger and use it somewhere else?16:35
gordonjcpWiz_KeeD: kind of16:35
Wiz_KeeDthat's not comforting :D16:35
gordonjcpWiz_KeeD: you can resize the partition easily16:35
Wiz_KeeDI cannot add it to windows partition can I?16:35
Wiz_KeeDat a later time I mean16:36
gordonjcpyou can't resize a mounted partition16:36
gordonjcpWiz_KeeD: probably, I don't know much about Windows, I'm pretty new to it16:36
MariusIThow can i get the .dpk for this package http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/smartmontools ?16:36
gordonjcpWiz_KeeD: some filesystems *can* be resized while they're mounted but that's kind of dark magic and wizardry16:36
Wiz_KeeDI was thinking it was something of that sort, It can't be all flowers and pink when all other systems don't do it for a reason16:37
Wiz_KeeDWhat do you recommend as snapshot backup solution gordonjcp ?16:37
gordonjcpWiz_KeeD: don't know, I don't use one16:37
Wiz_KeeDlvm sounds complex though16:39
hawke_Wiz_KeeD: It is.16:39
Wiz_KeeDouch16:40
Wiz_KeeDnobody here uses a "snapshot"-like backup? :(16:40
Wiz_KeeDPeople in here are so confident16:40
BlitzHereThanks for everything, guys. I'm getting this16:41
BlitzHerehttp://www.flipkart.com/dell-vostro-3560-laptop-3rd-gen-ci5-4gb-500gb-linux/p/itmdjz5ebwwgrq7x?pid=COMDJZ5CKAHN8JFW&otracker=browse&pageNum=116:41
hawke_Wiz_KeeD: FS-snapshots are not  necessarily good backups.16:41
BlitzHereBye16:41
FloodBot1BlitzHere: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:41
MonkeyDustWiz_KeeD  btrfs can do that, as opposed to ext416:41
hawke_That’s not exactly what it’s for, so…16:42
ikoniabtrfs though is still not stable16:42
MonkeyDustWiz_KeeD  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs#Rollback_to_a_snapshot16:42
ikoniait would be a bold move to consider that16:42
MonkeyDustikonia  didnt know, read it in the help pages16:42
Wiz_KeeDChecking it MonkeyDust16:43
Wiz_KeeDSo it's not that "stable?" :)16:43
MonkeyDustWiz_KeeD  disregard my comment16:43
ikonianot stable release at all16:43
hawke_Wiz_KeeD: snapshots are more useful as a source for taking backups, not as backups themselves16:43
Wiz_KeeDI usually backups my data using a dvcs and/or Dropbox but for actual configuration files or if i mess up something by installing stupid things which cause conflicts and crashes16:44
Wiz_KeeDIt would be lovely just to revert to the before version16:44
Wiz_KeeDDoes that make any sense?16:44
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: do you really need that for a full file system16:44
ikoniaor just key files16:44
Wiz_KeeDI guess just key files, but I would have no idea what I mess up when i install some dodgy packages/libraries16:45
Wiz_KeeDwhere they head up and etc16:45
ikoniadodgy packages/libraries ?16:45
Wiz_KeeDikonia: for example last time I tried to install a ruby package through gem16:47
ikoniayou shouldn't do that16:48
ikoniathat would be the way to manage that16:48
Wiz_KeeDAnd i installed gem, ruby, 100 other libraries, then some more libraries after that package failed16:48
ikonianot doing that sort of thing is the way to manage that16:48
Wiz_KeeDThen how would I revert back? If i'm not an expert I'm bound to make mistakes like that16:48
ikonianot with full file system snapshots16:48
Wiz_KeeDsame advice as "Be carefull not to delete your files, that's the best backup"16:48
Wiz_KeeDI had no experience with gem, with the libraries neccesairy and I tried my luck trying to install it using tutorials16:49
ikoniatotally different advice16:49
Wiz_KeeDthen a rain of errors came back from the apt that said i have conflicts and etc16:49
ikoniaI'd strongly suggest not using those sort of tools16:49
ikoniaand using correct packages16:49
Wiz_KeeDHow else am I supposed to install the mailcatcher ruby application?16:49
ikoniaby packaging it / getting the correct package16:50
Wiz_KeeDAnd how am I supposed to guess the best way for anything I need in the future16:50
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Wiz_KeeDThere is no such package in Ubuntu16:50
ikoniaso you make one / get one made16:50
Wiz_KeeDmain ubuntu repositories16:50
Wiz_KeeDright16:50
ikoniagem/plec all that sort of stuff is junk16:50
Wiz_KeeDi use pip install to get a load of good python libraries16:50
ikoniayes, pip is also not good16:51
Wiz_KeeDthat are much more up to date than apt-get16:51
Wiz_KeeD:))16:51
ikoniathen you are using the wrong distro16:51
Wiz_KeeDthat so?16:51
ikoniayes16:51
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gordonjcpWiz_KeeD: if you're going to use pip, at least use a virtualenv16:51
Wiz_KeeDgordonjcp: virtualenv?16:52
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hawke_Wiz_KeeD: the point is, you just have to be exceedingly careful when installing packages outside the apt-get system, or you risk breaking things.16:59
Wiz_KeeDI will take a mental note with that hawke_16:59
Wiz_KeeD!16:59
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Wiz_KeeDthere is a software called "Back in time"17:07
Wiz_KeeDthat sounds interesting17:07
c2tarunmagnetic links not opening deluge in chromium, can anyone please help me with this?17:08
sebinou#17:10
nightwalkerkgHi,i am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS but when i try to boot it there is just a white line in the top left corner that is blinking.17:10
SuperLagI sure wish that the Mouse options in Settings gave you an easy checkbox for "Natural Scrolling". Is there a way to enable that?17:11
sebinoui have the same pb but the cursor doesn't blink17:12
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hawke_SuperLag: what is 'natural scrolling'?17:14
SuperLaghawke_: exactly the opposite of default... you push the content, rather than the scrollbar17:14
darkangelhey guys how does 1 make a .Log file from terminal like lets say that u want to know the out put of a Wine program On ubuntu and u want a .log file so ya make a log file from Terminal how does that work i forgot17:15
hawke_SuperLag: Something to do with touch screens then?17:15
SuperLaghawke_: that's how touchscreens do it, yes... but I'm talking about enabling that on my Ubuntu install on my laptop. Xubuntu had that option in settings, but mainline Ubuntu does not, it seems.17:16
darkangel#winehq17:17
darkangelsorry17:17
unknown__Any idea why my alfa network usb adapter is acting like shit in ubuntu 12.10 (super slow internet speed)17:19
hawke_SuperLag: I can find out to do it for touchpads, but not for standard mouse scrollwheels17:19
SuperLaghawke_: yeah, I found the result with enabling it for touchpads, as well17:20
SuperLagOkay. Next question... when an app sends an on-screen notification, is there a way to specify which screen that shows up on, if you're working with external displays?17:21
altermannhi there. can anybody tell me wtf is wrong with this OS? i run apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade to update all the system packages and then i reboot and the update manager finds the same updates over again?17:22
altermannwhy is the command line not updating the kernel and headers and whatnot?\17:22
SuperLagaltermann: what version of Ubuntu are you on, and what results are you expecting?17:23
trismaltermann: you will need apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade kernels17:23
unknown__Did you used "sudo"17:23
trismaltermann: because it requires installing new packages17:23
altermannoh17:23
altermanni think it's kubuntu 12.0417:23
unknown__....17:23
altermanni'm not familiar with this distro and i can't replace it that easily17:24
Argentine1Hello installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my friends computer,one week after the installation the computer went kaput17:24
altermannmind you i had to remove kde and stay with unity to keep it from crashing constantly17:24
Johnny_LinuxArgentine1  define kapput17:25
hawke_trism: you don’t need to use dist-upgrade to upgrade kernels…17:25
unknown__Sometimes when i boot my computer it can't recognize graphic card (at the loading) and its not able to boot17:26
Argentine1yeah they was wery angry to me and they say the linux are not good,but the computer was 100 år old ,17:26
unknown__I got this problem after I installed ubuntu17:26
SuperLagOkay. Figured that one out.17:26
trismhawke_: yes, you do17:26
rehashHello all17:26
unknown__My computer its powerfull and i have like 2mb download speed when using windows17:27
trismhawke_: well, very rarely they will only do a minor version bump, and then you don't, but usually you do17:27
hawke_trism: I never use dist-upgrade, and I manage.17:27
unknown__but when am using ubuntu17:27
unknown__its like a shitty computer17:27
altermannthanks for shedding some light on apt-get17:27
Piciunknown__: mind your language here please.17:27
trismhawke_: with an old kernel17:27
Wiz_KeeDI think I will use the default backup then17:28
hawke_trism: no…'apt-get install linux-image-generic' does the job.17:28
trismhawke_: yes, apt-get install directly will *also* install new packages, you are correct17:29
trismhawke_: but apt-get upgrade will not17:29
jjavaholic_how can I change the position of the notify window?17:30
SuperLagunknown__: way to win friends and influence people. If you want help, you're starting off great. :)17:30
hawke_trism: Still, you don’t need to use dist-upgrade — I usually use plain upgrade and then follow up all the ones that are kept back17:31
trismhawke_: yes alright, fine you are correct, had you said you chose to install each upgrade individually I would have agreed that would work too, but that was not really the current topic17:31
gaby_hello17:32
gaby_how to install temes for xfcce17:33
gaby_=17:33
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GeorgeJHas anyone managed to get WoW's launcher/updater to work with wine 1.7?17:39
PiciGeorgeJ: You'd be better off asking in #winehq for that17:39
GeorgeJI did, it's no biggie to ask here aswell though, since it's related to gaming on ubuntu.17:40
Dounoityay, I love games!17:40
StritIt worked in 1.6, why shouldn't it work in 1.7?17:40
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PiciGeorgeJ: yep, just trying to get you help faster :)17:40
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GeorgeJStrit: I believe it has  something to do with the Secondary Logon Service. Other than that, the error doesn't say much.17:41
StritStrange they would change that to not work in a version after a version where it worked. :)17:41
GeorgeJI can't give wine1.6 a chance because wine1.6 in the ubuntu-wine ppa is actually wine 1.7.1 and I'm too lazy to compile an older version17:41
StritYeah, that is true.17:42
StritDid you try adding dbghelp to libraries and marking it as disabled?17:42
StritThat works for the battle.net app, so might work for wow launcher17:43
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GeorgeJStrit: Hmm, I've no ideea how to do that, I'll look into it.17:44
altermannhi, there. is it possible to get rid of Unity and stick with KDE or another UI that's low on resources in Kubuntu 12.04?17:45
icerootaltermann: kubuntu does not have unity by default17:45
StritGeorgeJ, okay mate. It's in the Configure Wine options under Libraries.17:45
StritKDE low on ressources?17:45
icerootaltermann: and i would say kde4 is using nearly the same ressources as unity17:45
altermanniceroot, unity seems clunky and buttons do not respond when pressed17:46
MonkeyDustKDE is more repsonsive, in my experience17:46
chris_youngDoes any one know if Ubuntu Desktop installs any additional audio components other than pulseAudio? I ask because my external USB audio interface (Akai EIE) works plug and play on my MacBook Pro which has a stock Ubuntu Desktop install. However it does not work with my Xeon server which has vanilla Ubuntu and XFCE.17:46
icerootaltermann: have a look at xfce4 (xubuntu-desktop) or lxde (lubuntu-desktop)17:46
altermanniceroot, i cannot reinstall the OS, i must do this on the live system17:47
icerootaltermann: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop17:47
icerootaltermann: or lubuntu-desktop17:47
altermannand apt-get remove unity?17:47
xanguaaltermann: why would you want to remove unity¿17:48
iceroot!purexfce | altermann17:49
ubottualtermann: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »17:49
altermannxangua, i don't want it and i don't want to have to wait for updates to its packages if i'm not using it17:49
hawke_<trolling>because unity is terribad</trolling>17:49
altermannhawke_, i have had poor experience with it, especially with NX17:49
altermannand also the Unity interface17:50
hawke_altermann: Yes, I am not a fan of the Unity interface at all.17:50
altermannfor the life of me, i cannot connect using NX any more and i've exhausted all troubleshooting steps i could find17:50
altermanni'm thinking it's unity at fault17:50
hawke_God forbid you should be able to actually find/launch applications that you don’t know the name of.17:50
altermannscrolling for your application can be a pain that's for sure17:51
kostkon!ot17:51
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:51
FreeaqingmeI'm running wine through sudo. Everything works (X, networking), but not the audio. How can I debug/fix that?17:52
kostkonFreeaqingme, why with sudo?17:52
liahim2exit17:52
Freeaqingmekostkon, because I want to run it as a different user. I'm not running it as root17:53
Stritsudo makes it run as root....17:53
Freeaqingmesudo -u otheruser -H <binary> doesn't really?17:53
mr-blahblazemore:  where does the Ubuntu installer install GRUB by default ex:hd(0,0). I'm trying to avoid creating this problem again.17:53
kostkonFreeaqingme, then you aren't going to get sound. pulseaudio is running and using the soundcard only for the current user17:53
Freeaqingmekostkon, I more or less figured that. The question is how I could make it also work for the other user17:54
altermanniceroot, reading that guide you posted. one of the steps says "remove ubuntu" is that unity they're referring to?17:54
icerootaltermann: ubuntu-desktop  is unity17:54
altermannkk17:54
kostkonFreeaqingme, either remove pulse from the equation, it could work like that, with only alsa, or make pulseaudio run as a system process, it could work again, not 100% certain, but that's not safe according to the pulse devs17:55
Freeaqingmekostkon, tnx17:55
mr-blahwhere does the Ubuntu installer install GRUB by default ex:hd(0,0). I'm trying to avoid creating boot problem again.17:57
Stritmr-blah, /dev/sda i think17:58
mr-blahStrit: last time it installed to sda1, on top of windows recovery, causing me HUGE issues. i'm trying to prevent tht17:59
geniimr-blah: Usually first bootable hd which grub sees as 0,0 and Ubuntu sees as /dev/sda17:59
silvio_alguem do brasil ai?17:59
geniiYou don't want to install it to a partition of a drive, just the drive itself. eg: sda NOT sda117:59
mr-blahgenii: sda2 is my ntfs windows partition, and it has a boot flag; i this normal?18:00
xangua!pt | silvio_18:00
ubottusilvio_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.18:00
Stritmr-blah, it should only install to /dev/sda1 if you tell it too. Just make sure it's set to /dev/sda only. :)18:00
silvio_ok18:00
geniimr-blah: It's normal but not necessary18:01
mr-blahgenii: so if have: sda1:windows recovery, sda2: windows(ntfs), sda3 ubuntu(ext4), sda4:swap, then sda is where the bootloader goes? which sda# has the boot flag then?18:03
geniimr-blah: sda is the entire drive. sda# are partitions. So putting bootloader on sda ( and not a partition) means it's going on the Master Boot Record18:04
Strityes, bootloader goes to sda.18:04
geniimr-blah: What partitions have or don't have bootable flags is meaningless. Grub will just boot whatever OS from whatever partitons it's told to18:05
altermannis this some sort of bug: Problem: O:Mono.Simd.Vector2d.Conversion, with xpath: /Type/Members/Member[@MemberName='op_Conversion']/Docs18:05
altermann?18:05
fak3rI'm running saucy x86_64, how can I install ia32-sun-java6-bin (or any 32-bit java)18:06
mr-blahgenii: is the ubuntu installer smart enough to figure this out o its own? last time I had BIG issues...18:06
vandersonHi, after a update my Ubuntu 13.04 brokes. When I try to start it (with different versions of the kernel: 3.5 and 3.8) it just keep loading and loading. When I press ESC to see the log it show just a msg from fsck: sda8 xxx/yyy clean ... The HD light of the notebook stays on all the time, but nothing else happens. Some one knows what I could do to find the problem.18:06
wilee-nilee!saucy | fak3r18:06
ubottufak3r: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+118:06
iceroot!saucy | fak3r18:06
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geniimr-blah: When the grub-install is ran, it will look and find all the operating systems on all the drives, then make entries for them on the MBR18:07
mr-blahgenii:  if i do the standard "along side" install, will i have the oppurtunity to resize the ntfs, assuming that only sda1, and sda2 are present?18:07
kimdahi. i am running kvm on a server with bridging. the first 5 hours it will run perfectly and after that there are problems pinging on the host to outside hosts (ex. yahoo.com etc..) does anybody have an idea how to fix this or maybe pointers?18:07
geniimr-blah: If Ubuntu is on a different drive then you likely won't get the resize option18:09
geniiWork, afk18:09
mr-blahgenii: so for a dual boot, i should resize partitions w gparted before i run the installer?18:09
linuxuz3rhi18:10
Stritmr-blah, yeah, that's what I would do.18:10
linuxuz3rwhats new in 1310?18:10
mr-blahStrit:  thanks18:10
DJones!13.10 | linuxuz3r18:10
ubottulinuxuz3r: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+118:10
Stritmr-blah, just make sure it places the bootloader in /dev/sda this time. :)18:11
mr-blahStrit: 10-418:11
shankhs_Hi While installing ubuntu I got this error: cant open /dev/sr0 no medium found . How can I fix this error?18:12
shankhs_i googled and found that its because of bug #49230118:13
ubottubug 492301 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "Can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49230118:13
shankhs_The fix says I have to modify the boot options, how can I do that?18:14
altermannanybody using Nomachine's NX with ubuntu?18:14
Freeaqingmekostkon, fyi, I did come up with this. By sharing the pulse cookie, Either user netflix, or the other user is able to use pulseaudio, though not simultaneously http://pastebin.com/SpdgB9EH18:15
kostkonFreeaqingme, nice. so the wine stuff was about netflix18:17
Freeaqingmekostkon, yup. But I tested it also using winecfg, and was able to conclude that it was not silverlight/netflix specific18:17
kostkonFreeaqingme, yeap18:17
Freeaqingmeand by running it as its own user, I can route its traffic via a different route18:18
vandersonSomeone could help me with a problem with my Ubuntu?18:18
xangua!ask | vanderson18:18
ubottuvanderson: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:18
Freeaqingmevanderson, just ask your question ;)18:18
SuperLagvanderson: best just get right into the problem18:18
vandersonMy Ubuntu just keep in a infinite boot loading18:19
vandersonI try to change the Kernel but the problem stay18:19
SuperLagvanderson: what's changed recently?18:19
vandersonI make a upgrade of the system, but I usually just suspend so I did a lot of things ;)18:20
vandersonWhen I try to restart yesterday it's just brokes18:21
fission6can someone review the following instructions to set up a swap and let me know if they make sense, i have 512 memory on ubunutu 12 https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-add-swap-on-ubuntu-12-0418:21
vandersonI press esc to see the log, but it's almost empty18:21
krustHello fellas18:21
vandersonjust with a msg from fsck18:21
krustim the only one who got a reboot by overheating when gaming on ubuntu?18:21
Stritkrust, did you game on a laptop with switchable graphics cards?18:22
wilee-nileefission6, Do you have no room for a swap partition?18:23
krustYes sir18:23
fission6wilee-nilee: what do you mean18:23
fission6i have a DigitalOCean small instance, i have 512 M memory, and 18 G on disk18:23
krustStrit, yes18:23
wilee-nileefission6, That is a swap file, generally swap is a partition.18:23
Stritkrust, dud you install proprietary drivers?18:23
Stritdid*18:24
krustStrit, im on a 13.04 Vostro 3550 notebook, with radeon 6630m graphics switchable to intel 4000, using latest Beta proprietary amd drivers18:24
fission6im confused18:24
shankhs_Hi While installing ubuntu I got this error: cant open /dev/sr0 no medium found . How can I fix this error? i googled and found that its because of bug #492301 The fix says I have to modify the boot options, can somebody please tell me how can i do that? Thanks18:24
ubottubug 492301 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "Can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49230118:24
fission6wilee-nilee: can you explain how you know thats  swap18:24
HSakaHello, I installed rtorrent and rutorrent on my ubuntu server. When I rebooted my server, i'm getting a message that something is wrong with the raid18:25
wilee-nileefission6, "Create and Enable the Swap File" This is all over the article, what is your goal here?18:25
StritHm. is both cards active?18:25
HSakahttp://pastebin.com/N5sBgHQw18:25
g00si would like to create a minimal ubuntu virtualbox VM that only runs inkscape. what would be the best minimal 'template' to start with? i thought something along the lines of ubuntu server + lxde + inkscape?18:25
krustStrit, i dont think so, at least on catalyst control center ive choosed the ATI18:25
fission6i have 512 M and 18 G of disk space, one of my python processes which utilizes postgres runs out of memory and gets SIGKILL - i was hoping to maybe avoid this by setting up some swap space wilee-nilee18:26
Stritkrust, No idea why it gets so hot then. Unless you turned the fan off. :P18:26
krustStrit, ive pasted the fglrx info on ur pvt18:26
vandersonThe /var/log/dmesg will have more information about the boot process?18:26
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wilee-nileefission6, A swap file is okay, this is a VM right?18:27
altermanniceroot, i'm getting all sorts of cifs mounting errors after replacing unity with XFCE. could that be a cause?18:27
krustSad ; (18:27
icerootaltermann: what error message exactly?18:28
iceroot!paste | altermann18:28
ubottualtermann: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:28
HSakacould somebody help me? :/?18:28
iceroot!ask | HSaka18:29
ubottuHSaka: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:29
HSakai did ask18:29
icerootHSaka: rtorrent has nothing to do with raid18:30
fission6when does the OS know when to use the swap18:30
HSakawhen it is booting up18:30
icerootfission6: when data are not needed that much they will go to swap instead of ram18:30
shankhs_has somebody any experience with modifying the ubuntu boot options?18:30
wilee-nilee!swappiness | fission618:30
HSakaI never had the issue before before now.18:30
linuxuz3rfission6, hi18:30
fission6hi18:30
linuxuz3rfission6, swaps are used always18:31
wilee-nileefission6, There is swappiness this can be adjusted.18:31
icerootHSaka: then have a look what dmraid (or whatever you are using) is telling you as the error18:31
fission6ok, hmm not sure what direction to go here18:31
icerootHSaka: you were facing raid issues before and it has nothing to do with rtorrent, the issues are just shown up during the next boot18:31
icerootfission6: normally you should not change the behavior how the system is swapping18:31
HSakaI've tried to reboot it many times, now it's asking me only about I want to do a degraded RAID.18:32
PiciHSaka: what do you want to do about your degraded RAID?18:32
dobhello18:32
linuxuz3rhi what else can i install in ubuntu for eye candy18:32
HSakaI want to solve it, back to normal. It says it only notices 2 of 3 raid hdd18:33
HSakahttp://pastebin.com/N5sBgHQw18:33
dobif i add a ip with up ip -6 addr add 2a01:xxx:xxx:xx::5/64 dev eth0 it's automatically configured as my primary outgoing ip. Why?18:33
icerootHSaka: check if the missing hdd is still working18:33
icerootHSaka: is the bios detecing the drive?18:34
wilee-nileelinuxuz3r, this is support, how about a spoiler.18:34
linuxuz3rok18:36
HSakaiceroot, it says health is good and everything is okey.18:36
wilee-nileeshankhs_, Can you state the goals here.18:36
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shankhs_Hi wilee-nilee While installing ubuntu I got this error: cant open /dev/sr0 no medium found . How can I fix this error? i googled and found that its because of bug #492301 The fix says I have to modify the boot options, can somebody please tell me how can i do that? Thanks18:37
ubottubug 492301 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "Can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49230118:37
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wilee-nileeshankhs_, This a dual boot, say with W8?18:37
shankhs_yes18:37
wilee-nilee!uefi | shankhs_18:38
ubottushankhs_: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI18:38
icerootHSaka: when ythe system is started, is it rebuilding the raid? cat /proc/mdstat18:38
wilee-nileeshankhs_, Sounds like you have the uefi install of W8, so take a look at the link.18:38
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shankhs_wilee-nilee: Thanks, I have AMD processor can that cause any issue?18:39
asgsagsdmy sound system tray icon suddenly wont let me change the sound18:39
lapionI am having problems reinstalling grub for a system with the root btrfs filesystem18:39
wilee-nileeshankhs_, uefi is part of the hardware and software, so amd is probably not the issue per-say18:40
shankhs_wilee-nilee: ok thanks18:40
wilee-nileeshankhs_, Grub just does not go to the mbr is all18:40
designbybeckInstalling Ubuntu 13.04 on a Dell Inspiron that had a 32SSD and 500GB. Ubuntu Install doesn't show any harddrives. We were going to wipe Windows off and don't care about it18:40
asgsagsdthe sound still works though18:40
wilee-nileeshankhs_, as far as the error18:41
asgsagsdand alsamixer still works18:41
designbybeckSecure Boot is disabled in the BIOS18:41
altermannlooks like i've screwed up my system and i can't install KDE18:41
asgsagsdsound settings control panel shows no devices18:41
asgsagsdthis is odd18:41
Stritdesignbybeck, does the BIOS/UEFI detect the drives?18:42
altermanni'm trying to reinstall kde and i'm getting the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6093706/18:42
altermanni went from unity to xfce and kind of messed up my system18:42
designbybeckYes Strit It was booting into Windos fine18:42
lapionI am having problems reinstalling grub for a system with the root on a btrfs18:43
Stritdesignbybeck, windows 8?18:43
wilee-nileealtermann, Did you try to remove any other desktops?18:43
designbybeckIt had Win 7 on there Strit, but the Win8 key icon! ;)18:43
altermannwilee-nilee, yes, unity18:43
linuxuz3rlater guys18:44
Stritdesignbybeck, is it running SecureBoot?18:44
wilee-nileealtermann, Bad idea, unity is the ubuntu desktop and composed of meta packages including gnome 318:44
altermannwilee-nilee, this is kubuntu i'm running but i had to erase kde cause it was crashing a lot18:44
altermannthou it seems unity was causing some issues too18:45
* LinuxGold is running Ubuntu Server 13.04 -- console only.18:45
designbybeckStrit:  In BIOS BOOT ..it was on Legacy, And Secure Boot is Disabled18:45
lapioncan anyone tell me what grub commands to use to boot with the root files system on a a partition with it volume in /@/18:45
ChogyDanaltermann: try running `sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop^` with the ^18:45
wilee-nileealtermann, YOU have to remove them with meta package lists if you want them gone, not apt remove unity...etc18:45
altermannChogyDan, it's working18:45
altermannthanks18:45
Stritdesignbybeck, Hm, can't really say why it won't see them then. Never had it happen to me.18:46
unknown101Can skype 12.04 work with ubuntu 13.0418:46
wilee-nileealtermann, What ubuntu release is this?18:46
ChogyDanunknown101: I think so.  I tested it marginally18:46
designbybeckStrit:  Ok thank you, I'll keep diggin in the bios and try again18:46
altermannwilee-nilee, 12.04 Kubuntu18:46
unknown101okay thanks18:47
unknown101anyway time to close my ubuntu upgrade is almost done18:47
unknown101restart time :P18:47
altermannwilee-nilee, it's acting as printing server and we need konsole because the dev made all the scripts run in it18:47
wilee-nileealtermann, Cool take a look here in playing around left panel it gives you package lists. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/18:47
altermanni was following this guide to replace unity with something less stressful to use: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntuprecise18:48
altermannbut it seems it took out konsole in the process18:48
altermanngood thing it didn't take out apache or something else18:48
ChogyDanaltermann: I use debfoster to clean up my install from time to time.  It is a great tool if you know all and exactly what packages you want, at least the meta-packages.18:48
altermannChogyDan, unfortunately i'm a red hat and bsd guy, i just could not find an easy way to replace ubuntu on this server so i'll have to work with it for now and maybe learn a thing or two :)18:49
altermannthanks for all your support18:49
wilee-nileealtermann, thats a bit of a mess for just a print server.18:51
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altermannwilee-nilee, i know18:51
altermannthat's how the guy wrote the code18:52
altermann:(18:52
altermannit's stupid to require X for anything like that18:52
wilee-nileethat was my thought18:52
Marleneei try to remove programme and its not remove - apt-get remove programme ???18:52
serycjonHi, into which config file should I put script that should run when X11 start (for remapping capslock to escape)? thanks!18:52
Guest70105apt-get purge program18:52
Guest70105apt-get autroremove18:53
Marleneethe programme still have files not removed18:53
altermannwilee-nilee, i'll remove XFCE @ end of day and stick with KDE only on this system18:53
wilee-nileeMarlenee, You want to name the "program" details are importatnt.18:53
ChogyDanaltermann: aptitude can also install a random program if there are lot's of dependency issues.  I didn't catch your whole issue, but if you only needed to get konsole installed, you could have used aptitude, and I think it would have given you some options to resolve the dependency issues18:54
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altermannchockey, i think you're right, i might have done that in the past18:54
Marleneewilee-nilee : its nmap programme18:54
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altermannall i needed was konsole but libcore qt woudln't install18:55
wilee-nileeMarlenee, To the channel with your requests is all.18:55
Marleneewilee-nilee : apt-get remove nmap is store script in their folder and its not remove any of this subfolder or even this files ?18:57
rm_workI'm trying to package something and somehow "init-system-helpers" is getting injected into my dependencies (via mypackage.substvars, it looks like) during the dpkg-buildpackage run, and I have no idea where the hell that's coming from, because that package doesn't even exist in quantal (the distro i'm on) and the string doesn't come up from an rgrep of my whole source directory… T_T18:57
rm_workanyone have any idea about where else I could check to see where this phantom dep is coming from?18:58
wilee-nileeMarlenee, I'm not familiar with nmap so I can't really help, a purge removes more, however there can be dependencies left.18:58
Marleneewhat is the command to remove all depenedcies ??18:59
altermannhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6093807/ should i be concerned about this?18:59
mr-blahthere has to be a bug in the ubuntu installer.18:59
serycjonHi, into which config file should I put script that should run when X11 start (for remapping capslock to escape)? thanks!19:00
ChogyDanaltermann: yeah, but you didn't post the error, just the notification that the error happened19:00
mr-blahit is not giving me the option to install ubuntu alongside windows.19:00
blazemoremr-blah: What issue are you having?19:00
wilee-nileeMarlenee, you want to know what they are before you start removing stuff, and there is no stock command if you just have them there after running a remove.19:00
blazemoremr-blah: Did you run chkdsk on the faulty partition like I advised earlier?19:00
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xkernelwhat is the Ubuntuonair channel?19:01
ChogyDanMarlenee: unless you are just looking for `sudo apt-get autoremove`  that can do some dependency removal19:01
blazemoremr-blah: I know you can't boot into Windows at the moment, but you can use a similar utility from the LiveCD. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fix-corrupted-windows-ntfs-filesystem-ubuntu/19:01
OerHeksmr-blah, sounds like you have 4 primairy partitions19:02
altermanni'm still getting errors from libQtCore.so.419:02
mr-blahblazemore: i restored windows, which nuked the hd.  i created this scheme w gparted: sda1: windowsrecovery, sda2 windows, sda3 ext4, sda 4 swap. i run the ubuntu installer, but no option to install alongside windows.....19:02
altermannso i need to change konsole to terminal in the scripts19:02
el3ktrals19:02
el3ktraanyone awake19:02
ChogyDanaltermann: just pastebin the whole error, and maybe we can help19:02
altermannwill do19:02
el3ktrahey, this should be a simple problem...19:03
el3ktraI have a file, I need to output lines that match to a new file19:03
wilee-nileemr-blah, That is 4 primaries sda1,2,3,419:03
mr-blahwilee-nilee:  yes19:03
el3ktraIt's an xml file, and I want to output everything with <Name>19:03
el3ktrathis should eb really simnple, I just can't figure it out, and I am in a hurry :P19:03
blazemoremr-blah: You recovered your windows *bootloader* - your actual ntfs partition is still marked as dirty which means the Ubuntu installer won't attempt to resize it. Also, since you just said you made custom partitions why do you need the guided partitioning?19:04
altermannpaste.ubuntu.com/609383319:04
altermannthat's my issue19:04
mr-blahblazemore:  i will let the ubuntu installer run then,19:04
mr-blahblazemore:  but this is exactly how it went before, and it trashed my system :(19:04
ChogyDanaltermann: what happened to the error from dpkg?19:04
wilee-nileemr-blah, THat is the maximum, you want 3 and a extended partition for logical partitions for more partitions, I assume here this ia not a uefi gpt setup.19:04
fission6so its best to avoid swap partition if possible19:05
blazemorealtermann: sudo apt-get install libqt4-core19:05
Piciel3ktra: there are some cli xslt programs in the repositories, those should be able to help you.19:05
mr-blahwilee-nilee:  i don't really understand uefi.19:05
altermannblazemore, it fails19:05
wilee-nileefission6, No.19:05
blazemoremr-blah: You should get your partitions set up such that you have a big block of completely unpartitioned free space19:05
ChogyDanfission6: that's debatable.  If you run out of memory without swap, random procs get killed19:05
LinuxGuy2020Hello there is a game in the repos called "minetest" its a minecraft clone. I want to run the minetestserver on bootup of my home server. I tried "nohup minetestserver". It runs but it ties up the terminal until I ctrl+c. How can I do this and still have the terminal free to use?19:05
blazemoremr-blah: Then the Ubuntu installer will give you an option to install into that space19:05
mr-blahblazemore:  ok i will go back...19:05
blazemoreLinuxGuy2020: nohup minetestserver &19:06
wilee-nileemr-blah, Can you take a screenshot of gparted and imagebin it.19:06
OerHeksLinuxGuy2020, <command> &19:06
fission6ChogyDan: thats exactly the issue am in right now, i have a python tasks which runs and gets killed, it does a lot of working a postgres transaction block - not sure what quick wins there are.19:06
altermanni'm using aptitude to install it blazemore and chockey19:06
LinuxGuy2020blazemore: Ok cool. What does the & mean at the end? Whats it tell the system to do?19:06
altermannChogyDan,19:06
fission6i can 1) "slim the code" 2) add a swap 3) add memory19:06
ChogyDanfission6: have a swap file, and alter swappiness instead19:06
altermannseems it's halting19:06
mr-blahyup, the installer hosed my hd again19:07
blazemoreLinuxGuy2020: http://hacktux.com/bash/ampersand19:07
fission6ChogyDan: have you set up a swap before19:07
LinuxGuy2020blazemore: thanks a bunch19:07
mr-blahwilee-nilee:  i can in like an hour after i restore gain. :( hosed again19:07
wilee-nileemr-blah, You hosed it using the installer, and not understanding.19:07
el3ktrathe answer is sed, btw19:07
ChogyDanfission6: i guess.  I run a desktop install, and setting up swap is just a matter of creating a swap partition.  Everything else is automated19:07
blazemoremr-blah: You don't need to do anything at this point, just boot from the LiveCD19:07
el3ktrathanks for naan19:07
mr-blahblazemore:  why, my windows install is toast19:08
blazemoremr-blah: Once you're on the LiveCD, delete the (presumably empty) two partitions you just made, making sure there's a big empty unpartitioned space. Screenshot gparted and show us to be sure19:08
mr-blahblazemore:  i have to fix windows again now.19:08
ChogyDanaltermann: again, you should pastebin the whole output with the error from apt-get/dpkg commands19:08
blazemoremr-blah: It's NOT toast, you just can't boot to it19:08
fission6ChogyDan: does this look decent19:08
blazemoremr-blah: It's still there and perfectly fine. You'll be able to boot to it once you've installed Ubuntu19:09
altermannChogyDan, i know, i'm a bit stressed cause my corowkers can't print and i need to get this fixed19:09
wilee-nileemr-blah, AS long as the HD is not dynamic you may be able to deal with this.19:09
mr-blahblazemore:  which image post site shall i use?19:09
blazemoremr-blah: I like imgur but that's because I sit on Reddit all day19:09
altermannthat's why i wanted to know what the name of the xfce terminal was so i can added to the script and remove konsole19:09
wilee-nilee!imagebin | mr-blah19:09
ubottumr-blah: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.19:09
blazemorealtermann: xfce4-terminal19:10
phong_hi guys19:10
ChogyDanaltermann: I'm no expert, but why not use bash or sh?  Maybe you could pastebin the script, and we could give some ideas19:10
altermannChogyDan, let me login from the ubuntu machine19:11
altermannChogyDan, i did not design it that way19:11
altermannour so called dev did and he took off19:11
ChogyDanyeah :(19:11
designbybeckStrit: Looks like those two drives were a RAID, we had to use Disks to format both of them, and then the installer saw them! Thank you for your help!19:11
dak0Hello, i just installed Ubuntu for first time on Fujitsu siemens Amilo pi 3525 and my web cam is not working, how can i fix this?19:12
ChogyDandak0: no video?19:13
dak0ChogyDan: yes19:13
altermannit seems i can't install xchat on that machine19:13
altermannso i'm stuck here19:13
gordonjcpno great loss19:13
gordonjcpxchat sucks19:13
ChogyDanaltermann: is that because of the previous package errors?19:14
Barnabasbut irc rules which is the important part ..19:14
mr-blahblazemore: wilee-nilee totally hosed. ntfs is gone now19:14
dak0ChogyDan: Offical site for fujitsu does not provide any linux drivers for this specific model19:15
Marleneeany tools for clean ubuntu server from junks files ?19:15
altermannChogyDan, yes indeed19:15
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altermannlet me try this again19:15
altermanni also need mysql connect19:16
altermannetc19:16
PiciMarlenee: whats a junk file?19:16
ChogyDanaltermann: if there is any way you could pastebin the whole error, we could get further19:16
icerootis it save to remove group and other access to /home/username? i have an encrpyted /home and dont want it to be accessed by others when the hdd is mounted19:16
MarleneePici : any kind of junk files19:16
MarleneePici : also any unneeded files !!19:16
mr-blahblazemore: starting winodws recovery again. next time this laptop is going out the window.19:17
blazemoremr-blah: If the ntfs partition is completely gone, so has your Windows installation. Recovering the bootloader won't help19:17
ChogyDandak0: I would try testing with gstreamer-properties19:17
mr-blahblazemore:  i am re partitioning, and reinstalling windows.19:18
blazemoremr-blah: If I were you, I'd just take this oppertunity for a completely clean slate.19:18
dobhow can i specify the default outgoing ip19:18
blazemoremr-blah: Yep do that. Let Windows eat the entire disk. Once it's totally done, the Ubuntu installer will detect and resize it properly19:18
PiciMarlenee: Why do you think that you have uneeded files on your server?19:18
blazemoremr-blah: 100% of your problems stemmed from your damaged ntfs partition19:18
dak0ChogyDan: sorry for being stupid how can i do that ?19:19
mr-blahblazemore:  i already did this once19:19
blazemoremr-blah: 100% of your problems you mentioned here, not your total problems in life19:19
Stritdesignbybeck, np mate. glad you figured it out. :)19:19
Piciiceroot: should be okay for other access.  Your default group only has yourself in it though.19:19
ChogyDandak0: run the command on a terminal19:19
mr-blahblazemore:  this is my only problem19:19
mr-blahblazemore:  i should be ready to try again in an hour.19:20
icerootPici: groups michael19:20
icerootmichael : michael cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev scanner bluetooth netdev19:20
icerootPici: i am not sure about "sudo" that is strange for me19:20
Piciiceroot: okay? your home directory is likely owned by michael:michael though19:20
icerootPici: yes19:20
LinuxGuy2020"nohup ./minetestserver &" the terminal still is tied up. Didnt work it seems. Any other ideas?19:21
MarleneePici : you dont know what is the tool for cleaning19:21
mr-blahblazemore: when the installer gives it the hose, i will you tube the usb stick getting flattened out with a sledge hammer19:21
Piciiceroot: the groups command shows what groups your user is in.19:22
icerootPici: when i have for example "video" in my group" and i have another user which has also "video" in his group, does that mean that he can access something (with some hacks for example) because in both groups there is that user19:22
icerootPici: ah, i thought it were users and not groups19:22
tflgen2is there anyone here that is a thunderbird pro?19:22
iceroottflgen2: #thunderbird in irc.mozilla.org19:22
MonkeyDusttflgen2  i use thunderbird, what seems to be the issue?19:22
dak0ChogyDan: when i test video this appears in console, Cannot identify device '/dev/video0'. [v4l2_calls.c(493): gst_v4l2_open (): /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstV4l2Src:v4l2src1: system error: No such file or directory]19:23
ChogyDanLinuxGuy2020: does adding disown to the end work?19:23
PiciMarlenee: There is no standard tool for cleaning up junk.  Things shouldn't be putting files all over the place. Typically it is up to you to determine what files are needed or not needed.19:23
jhutchinsLinuxGuy2020: I suggest you comb the minetest documentation for how to daemonize the server, or just give up and sacrifice a console.19:23
tflgen2iceroot: thanks, MonkeyDust don't want to clutter the chat here19:23
yeehiwhere is current package list for raring?19:23
jhutchinsLinuxGuy2020: It's not like there's any shortage of consoles on a linux box.19:23
ChogyDandak0: that just means that the webcam really isn't working19:23
Piciyeehi: http://packages.ubuntu.com19:23
yeehiThanks, Pici19:23
LinuxGuy2020jhutchins: got ya. thanks19:24
designbybeckStrit: On reboot, we got a Kernel Panic... not syncin: No init found19:24
jhutchinsLinuxGuy2020: Oh, look at that, right on the minetest homepage: #minetest @ Freenode19:24
LinuxGuy2020jhutchins: yeah not many linux folks though it seems19:24
LinuxGuy2020jhutchins: ill try again19:24
icerootPici: so i will just remove all access for "others" and stay with the group rights19:25
jhutchins,versions minetest19:25
icerootPici: do you also know how where to set the umask for a specific user? i dont want other-read as default for a specific user19:25
Piciiceroot: not off the top of my head, sorry.19:26
icerootPici: np, i will have a look on that19:27
icerooti guess samba access (with auth) will be run as the auth user, so i will not face issues with "removing the right for others" when the samba user and the passwd user are the same19:27
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Doomhammeranyone know if the latest ubuntu desktop livecd has kernel support for bcache?19:36
plumblumhello peeps, is there a way to install skydrive on an ubuntu server without using a 3rd party like Storage made easy19:36
xapakHello.19:36
icerootDoomhammer: not the stable releases, that feature is in 3.10 (imo)19:37
Doomhammericeroot, yeah, it's kernel 3.10 or later afaik - does an unstable livecd exist with that kernel?19:37
icerootDoomhammer: #ubuntu+119:37
Doomhammericeroot, ah, thanks! :)19:38
icerootDoomhammer: dont know what the current dev-version is using19:38
KI7MTWell, it's Sept, 2013, so my guess Ubuntu+1 = 2013+October or 13.10 is Ubuntu+119:39
ThePendulumHey19:40
designbybeckI had a Kernal Panic on one laptop install. I couldn't get Ubuntu 13.04 installed on it, but LinuxMint 15 Installed fine, Now I have another Laptop trying to install Ubuntu 13.04 on, but I get another Kernel Panic19:40
jhutchinsdesignbybeck: Perhaps you have a bad installer image.19:41
designbybeckWe've tried to jumpdrives19:41
ThePendulumI came in here twice for the same issue. The first time I was provided a solution but I don't remember what it was. The 2nd time, the solution didn't work.19:41
designbybeckThe installed seemed to install just fine jhutchins19:41
designbybeckjhutchins:  though It did have a SSD we tried to make / and the 500GB we set to /home19:42
jhutchinsThePendulum: Someone will be in touch with you about your refund.19:42
ThePendulumAt school, I can't connect to any of the student WAPs (WPA/WPA2 Enterprise), while they work fine on my phone and my laptop under Windows.19:42
xapakAnybody has tried installing Minimal Ubuntu on Virtualbox? I get up to the point where it should download the base files, but it stays in the purple screen, and nothing happens. I tried expert install, to no avail.19:43
ThePendulumI am using Ubuntu 12.04, but the issue appears on a 13.04 LiveUSB, too.19:43
jhutchinsdesignbybeck: Did it panic in the installer or afterward?19:43
jhutchins!wpa219:43
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs19:43
designbybeckthe liveboot and install went ok jhutchins, but the first boot has paniced, I trieed a few init=5 and such in grub, but didnt' seem to help19:44
jhutchinsdesignbybeck: Yeah, runlevels in debian derived systems are pretty much useless.19:44
jhutchinsdesignbybeck: Try single/1 or rescue19:45
ThePendulumjhutchins: There's so much guide there that there isn't really a way to get anywhere with it unless you have any idea at all what to look for19:45
designbybeckhow do I do single/1 or rescue jhutchins ?19:45
jhutchinsThePendulum: Look for the part about wpa/wpa2 enterprise.19:45
ThePendulumAh yeah, that part19:46
jhutchinsThePendulum: Maybe wpasupplicant - but I use wpa here and don't have to do anything special.19:47
crystal77Who do I get in contact with, to update the nginx repo? It's way out of date. ):19:47
jhutchinscrystal77: WHich repo?19:48
crystal77No idea. I just do "apt-get install nginx", and it's out of date, haha.19:48
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Marlenee!tmux19:48
ThePendulumjhutchins: Installed that as of the advice of someone else19:49
ThePendulumTo no avail19:49
ThePendulumSomeone had a script earlier19:49
KI7MTcrystal77, Ubuntu Devs are teh maintainers [ ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com ]19:49
jhutchinscrystal77: Most ubuntu repos don't sync with upstream.  Packages are tested and patched before they're released so they don't break anything, and this means they're never going to be quite as current as the latest version from upstream..19:50
designbybeckjhutchins:  the single/1 or resuce is something I put into GRUB boot options?19:50
jhutchinsThePendulum: I just use network manager via an applet for my desktop (xfce).19:50
soroushHi, alsamixer show too few options for me! The terminal or graphical interfaces are the same. I use ubuntu 10.04 on hp mini 210 with sound card Hewlett-Packard Company Device 338d. I tried f5 and f6. the only device available is hda intel19:51
jhutchinsyes, single, 1, or rescue appended to the boot command.19:51
ChogyDancrystal77: you need to also check debian, see if there is a more uptodate package there19:51
jhutchinsdesignbybeck: yes, single, 1, or rescue appended to the boot command.19:51
crystal77Interesting. Even though these are security updates (I won't argue with you guys :)). I shall check!19:52
jhutchinsdesignbybeck: runlevels 2-5 are identical in ubuntu/debian.19:52
jhutchinscrystal77: Which release are you running?19:52
SuperLagI have CapsLock switched to Ctrl. I put my laptop into sleep mode at work, and now that I'm home, my system is stuck in all caps, unless I hold Shift down as I type. Is there some command I can enter to switch back to lowercase, without requiring a logout or reboot?19:52
crystal77jhutchins: the latest19:52
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designbybeckso jhutchins I add something like "quiet splash 1"19:52
designbybeck?19:52
aethelrickhello all, just had a mishap with 12.04 64 bit... I installed steam and it removed a bunch of 64 bit pacakges and replaced them with 32 bit ones... reboot resulted in no Xorg session starting. I removed steam and reinstated xinit, xserver-xorg-core and xserver-common and my desktop came back, but now I have to log in twice before it works19:52
jhutchinsdesignbybeck: I think that will work, but I switch distros a lot so...19:53
designbybeckok thanks I'll try that19:53
ThePendulumjhutchins: I wish it was that simple19:53
designbybeckok a 1 by itself didn't work19:53
TsarObombaAnyone know about the inner working of pastebinit (ubuntus speciality pastebin tool from cli)19:53
SwashBuckla!ipod19:54
ubottuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod19:54
TsarObombaI know the -b switch allows you to switch paste sites, but is there any other way short of making an lias?19:54
TsarObombaalias*19:54
jhutchinsThePendulum: You could check your history file.  You said there was a script, did you save it somewhere?  Have you considered taking notes, particularly when you solve a problem?19:54
TsarObombaLike a config file or anything that defines its defaults? cause by default it uses paste.ubuntu.com19:54
aethelricklightdm reports a critical error which I think is probably causing the restart... while I'll likely be able to fix this is their a way I can make sure all default packages are installed in case it's more missing stuff19:54
ChogyDancrystal77: what is the latest version?  Im seeing 1.419:55
jhutchinsTsarObomba: Did you check the man page?19:55
TsarObombawill now, i was jiust reading the help page on ubuntus site19:56
sabret00theRight click sucks on all of my machines, is there anything I can do to fix it?19:56
KI7MTTsarObomba, man pastebinit .. there's an XML file that goes into /home19:56
XMLnewbiwhat does green highlighting mean in terminal again19:56
natsukaostop stupid discussions on LKML against ARM Soc, from Linus Torvalds https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/9/9/56219:56
TsarObombayup i see it19:56
SwashBucklahmm, my iPod shuffle (latest generation) has been wiped by Rhythmbox when I tried to sync with the library. Now I get the voice "Please use iTunes to restore this iPod" when I listen to my iPod shuffle. How do I fix this?19:56
ThePendulumjhutchins: Someone linked me a script but I never implemented it because I was on an SSH session19:56
jhutchinssabret00the: set RIGHT_CLICK=BLOW in xorg.conf?19:56
blazemoreXMLnewbi: It depends on the application. That's like asking what a green icon means in an application :)19:56
SwashBucklaNOTE: !ipod does not seem to be relevant to my issue.19:57
blazemoreSwashBuckla: I think some people have had success running older versions of iTunes in Wine19:57
TsarObombahmm that example file isnt working for me19:58
TsarObombawell a similar one19:58
jhutchinsSwashBuckla: It probably wants to restore the software.19:58
TsarObombaI used theirs and modified19:58
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crystal77ChogyDan: Really? I just installed nginx, and it's 1.219:59
TsarObombawould it need xml headers at the top?20:00
TsarObombacause the example doesnt show it20:00
ChogyDancrystal77: well, im on 13.10, so Im a bad rep, but it does look packages for some version of ubuntu20:00
TsarObomba(this might just be easiuer with a bash alias)20:00
TsarObombaKI7MT: ideas?20:00
crystal77ChogyDan: I'm on Ubuntu 13.04 x6420:01
TsarObombaKI7MT: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094070/20:01
TsarObombait ignores it20:01
TsarObombaunless i need to login and out, but its not likesz its bash related20:01
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sabret00thejhutchins: Where do I find xorg.conf?20:02
crystal77ChogyDan: I would install nginx from source, but it's over compliated, and so much work. Plus, I have no idea how one would even update it...20:02
dyresharkhi, i'm getting an error with low free space. how can i fix it?20:03
ChogyDancrystal77: well, 13.10 is coming out in 2 months as well20:03
bekksdyreshark: free up space.20:03
crystal77I lol'd20:03
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jhutchinssabret00the: That was an entirely frivolous answer in response to the frivolous and undefined nature of your question.  "Right click sucks on all of my machines" is completely suggestive and not something we can fix.20:05
XMLnewbijust read all through this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions             and did not find any example that looks like;  drwxr-sr-x   what does drw mean, and sr20:05
KI7MTTsarObomba, check /usr/share.pastebind20:05
TsarObombacrystal77: they have a ppa for nginx (i didnt read anything above you mentioning source)20:05
jhutchinssabret00the: xorg.conf is often found in /etc/X11/ but is mostly obsolete.20:05
TsarObombathanks20:05
KI7MT/usr/share/pastebin.d20:05
TsarObombawhat file?20:06
TsarObombathose are just configs for each padstebin site20:06
TsarObombawhich i know work20:06
crystal77TsarObomba: Yeah, I'm still trying to understand what a PPA is. Sounds like (from what I read), using another source for when you install nginx, so instead of hitting Ubuntu's server, you're hitting someone elses (which has the newer version).20:06
TsarObombacause when using the -b switch they work fine20:06
TsarObombacrystal77: its a repo20:06
TsarObombaof packages20:06
TsarObomba!ppa20:07
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge20:07
sabret00thejhutchins: by sucks, I mean I click the right mouse/trackpad button and it only registers sometimes, like I have to click it five times. Sometimes the menu pops up and disappears incredibly quickly. A Google search shows me it's a common problem and I'm not alone, but no answers regarding how to improve the situation.20:07
TsarObombaKI7MT: ^^^^20:07
updXMLnewbi, read it again.20:09
jhutchinssabret00the: Ok, much more potentially solvable.20:10
jhutchinssabret00the: Which release, which desktop, what graphics hardware?20:10
jhutchinss/suggestive/subjective20:11
jhutchinsStupid brain!20:11
boneshow do you make netflix work on ubuntu 12.0420:12
XMLnewbidrw doesnt show up into an example unitll it start talking about, Recursive Permission Changes; and that is only in an example, it does not mention how drw is dirrernt from rw, nor is sr in any of the examples20:12
sabret00thejhutchins: 13.10 on x86 machines. Had the problems on  on 12.04 and 12.10  both on board intel graphics.20:12
updXMLnewbi, it is not important if there is the same example as yours or not, you need to know what each letter mean, and at which position, then you will know what  your example is20:14
jhutchinsXMLnewbi: d means directory.20:14
XMLnewbiboom, ok, thanks20:14
XMLnewbiand the s? in sr20:14
nightwalkerkgIs it possible to make the top bar transparent ? I am using ubuntu 12.04.20:15
bekksXMLnewbi: scsi20:15
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jhutchinsXMLnewbi: Sticky.  You'll have to figure that out for yourself.20:15
blazemorenightwalkerkg: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/unity-tweak-tool/20:16
bekksAh, I thought you were referring to a device node /dev/srX20:16
SuperLagOn a Mac, I can do Command-` to cycle through windows that are open for the same application. Does Ubuntu have an equivalent keystroke that will do that?20:17
jhutchinssabret00the: All I can suggest is that you try an alternative desktop and see if it still happens.20:17
icerootSuperLag: alt + ^20:17
nightwalkerkgblazemore: Thanks,i'll check it out.20:17
blazemoredyreshark: sudo rm -rf /var/20:17
iceroot!danger20:17
ubottuDO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!20:17
bekksblazemore: very bad idea.20:17
gordonjcpSuperLag: no, but if you alt-tab you'll see multiple windows for the same app stacked20:17
jhutchinsSuperLag: Depends more on the desktop and application, try Ctrl-PgDn20:17
Piciblazemore: you should know better.20:17
icerootblazemore: stop something like that here20:18
sabret00thejhutchins thanks, I guess I'll give that a go.20:18
gordonjcpSuperLag: so you can alt-tab to the stack, pause, then alt-tab again through the stack20:18
dyresharkblazemore: that worked, thanks20:18
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blazemoreCool :)20:18
bekksdyreshark: Did you run that command?20:18
Picidyreshark: I really hope you didn't actually run that.20:18
dyresharkbekks: yes and it worked20:18
icerootdyreshark: dont execute that command20:18
dyresharkwell20:18
icerootdyreshark: that will kill your system20:18
dyresharkit's working20:18
Picidyreshark: and now your Ubuntu install is broken.20:18
dyresharkbut it's freeing up space!20:18
dyresharki have so much space now20:18
bekksdyreshark: You just broke your system. You have to reinstall now.20:18
bekksdyreshark: And a broken system.20:19
SuperLagummm yeah20:19
icerootblazemore: idiot20:19
jhutchinsbekks: And somebody has a slightly longer leg.20:19
dyresharkthank you friends20:19
SuperLagdefinitely broken20:19
dyresharkfor helping me20:19
dyreshark:)20:19
dyresharkhave a nice day20:19
FloodBot1dyreshark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:19
SuperLagugh20:19
* gordonjcp suspects that quite a large amount of urine has been extracted from the channel regulars here20:19
unknown101how can i install skype on ubuntu 13.04?20:20
iceroot!skype | unknown10120:20
ubottuunknown101: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga20:20
SuperLagunknown101: go download the .deb file from the Skype website20:20
unknown101i have skype for 12.0420:20
bekks!skype | unknown10120:21
Zonaklamesauce20:21
ubottuunknown101: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga20:21
unknown101but i just updateded20:21
unknown101obottu how can i unistall my old skype?20:21
SuperLagunknown101: Skype should still work20:21
ALLTHECODE!Ekiga20:22
ubottuekiga is an Internet telephony application included with Ubuntu, which supports the SIP and H323 protocols. Information and help at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga20:22
SuperLaghaha... Ekiga20:22
Piciunknown101: Probably by re-adding the partner repo as suggested in the skype factoid above and then performing an apt-get update/upgrade20:22
SuperLagyeah... that's going to get a lot of traction20:22
ALLTHECODEunfortunately, coworkers use skype20:23
ALLTHECODEand I am forced to use it20:23
bekksUse a phone :)20:24
unknown101ok done thanks updated skype and its now working20:24
unknown101i have another question20:24
asgsagsdmy sound system tray icon suddenly wont let me change the sound20:24
asgsagsdthe sound still works though20:24
asgsagsdand alsamixer still works20:25
unknown101sometimes when my computer is trying to boot it doesn't recognize the motherboard or the graphic card20:25
unknown101I got this problem after i installed ubuntu20:25
unknown101any idea how to fix?20:25
icerootunknown101: it does not recognize your motherboard?20:25
icerootunknown101: then nothing would run20:25
unknown101yes20:25
asgsagsd:D20:25
icerootunknown101: that is a hardware issue20:25
unknown101and reboots like other 6 times to get it right20:26
unknown101NOPE20:26
unknown101after i single boot ubuntu20:26
icerootunknown101: there is no reboot you can do when it does not detect the motherboard20:26
unknown101this problem showed up20:26
asgsagsdunknown101: your motherboard is what the computer is20:26
unknown101forget it lets tell that it does20:26
unknown101but sometimes it reboots it self20:26
unknown101to bo ubuntu20:26
unknown101something is wrong...20:26
icerootunknown101: without a motherboard even the power button would not work20:26
iceroot!details | unknown10120:27
ubottuunknown101: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."20:27
unknown101...........OK OK MY FAULT20:27
unknown101I use to run w7.I then single booted ubuntu 12.04 (delete windows).After that everytime i try to boot my computer20:28
unknown101it resets it self till the ubuntu boot corrently20:28
Gandalf84corpion20:28
unknown101something is wrong with ubuntu 12.04 anyway i updateded to 13.04 i'll see what is going on20:28
unknown101what is caribou in my startup applications preferenses?20:29
trism!info caribou | unknown10120:30
ubottuunknown101: caribou (source: caribou): Configurable on screen keyboard with scanning mode. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4.4-1ubuntu1 (raring), package size 65 kB, installed size 917 kB20:31
unknown101k thanks.Sorry for the stupid questions switched to ubuntu 2 days ago20:31
XMLnewbiwell this was a little helpfull, http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=125836       still looking for real documentation on what these permissions really mean.20:31
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Ben64!permissions | XMLnewbi20:32
ubottuXMLnewbi: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions20:32
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XMLnewbiI have two folers fith default permissions, one drwxr-sr-x  and the other drwxr-xr-x      Im trying to figure out how they are differnt,20:34
unknown101Is there any program that i can check all my running processes?20:35
gordonjcpunknown101: ps20:35
unknown101ps in terminal?20:36
crystal77unknown101: ps -faux in terminal or top20:36
gordonjcpyes20:36
unknown101ok good and how can i kill them?20:37
crystal77unknown101: look up the kill command ;)20:37
SwashBucklajhutchins: how to you restore the software on iPods?20:37
unknown101ok got it.Also is there any way that malicious sotwares can hide them selfs from ps -faux list?20:38
unknown101softwares*20:38
mr-blahUbuntu has hosed my harddisk twice today, I have reinstalled windows, again. Would anyone care to help me install ubuntu? this is my finl attempt.20:39
bekksmr-blah: I strongly doubt ubuntu did that. What did you do?20:39
mr-blahbekks:  i installed ubuntu20:40
Fyodorovnamr-blah, dude you have hosed the hd, lets put the credit where it's due.20:40
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unknown101there is a very nice program that make your usb drive a bootable "cd"20:40
unknown101i used that to single boot ubuntu20:40
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ChogyDanFyodorovna: try to be helpful20:41
asgsagsdmy sound system tray icon suddenly wont let me change the sound20:41
asgsagsdthe sound still works though20:41
asgsagsdand alsamixer still works20:41
unknown101asgsagsd20:42
bekksmr-blah: Then you sat still, looked at it, and suddenly it hosed itself?20:42
unknown101do20:42
mr-blahno, i have insalled ubuntu many times. this is the second computer this week that the 13.10 installed has hosed.20:42
unknown101rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity20:42
wilee-nileeChogyDan, I'm am stating the software is at fault is misinformation and makes it difficult to ge them to understand or help.20:42
unknown101in terminal20:42
FloodBot1unknown101: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:42
unknown101ok sorry20:43
unknown101also how i can reply to someone20:43
unknown101?20:43
mr-blahbekks: i have already been through this talk with blazemore, and wileenilee. this has taken all day. 3rd attempt20:43
MonkeyDustmr-blah  13.10 or 13.04 ?20:44
mr-blahbekks:  i need this scheme sda1: windows recover, sda2 windows ntfs, sda3 ubuntu ext4, sda4 swap20:44
mr-blahMonkeyDust: 12.1020:44
asgsagsdeverything was working fine20:44
mr-blahMonkeyDust:  13.1020:44
asgsagsdi just switched out my speakers and did a reboot and now i have issues20:45
MonkeyDustmr-blah  did you ask advice in #ubuntu+1 ?20:45
asgsagsdi think there is something wrong with the Ubuntu sound settings panel20:45
mr-blahMonkeyDust:  no20:45
asgsagsdis there an alternative one I can install?20:45
mr-blahMonkeyDust:  i have been in here all day20:45
wilee-nileebekks, They do not understd the limitations in amounts and types of partitions20:45
MonkeyDustmr-blah  13.10 is not ready, it's unstable, in development20:45
XMLnewbiwhat is a "hosed HDD"  perhaps the HDD itself is failing; and after errors in windows you thought trying linux would be a good idea, when in reality you needed a new HDD20:46
japrohrmf, so the auto updater just informs me that i can't install oracle-java7 without accepting the license...20:46
japrodoesn't give me the option to accept the license though :p20:46
MonkeyDustmr-blah  and "in here all day" does not sound healthy20:46
mr-blahMonkeyDust:  MonkeyDust its not. but i need this machine to working20:46
unknown101Can a program hide it self from startup applications program?20:46
MonkeyDustmr-blah  then try a supported release, type /topic to find out20:47
mr-blahMonkeyDust:  i need this scheme sda1: windows recover, sda2 windows ntfs, sda3 ubuntu ext4, sda4 swap20:47
mr-blahMonkeyDust: so what 12.04?20:47
wilee-nileemr-blah, as you can see misstating the issues causes a flood of comments that do not help hou20:47
MonkeyDustmr-blah  fine, but 13.10 is not ready20:47
wilee-nileeYou*20:47
MonkeyDustmr-blah  you are struggling with an unstable release20:48
mr-blahwilee-nilee: i told you my issues already, it took that long to get windows back after ubuntu hosed it.20:48
ratbert90Hey, is there a way to set bash to run a different version of a binary?  I have a old version that I wish to run, but I am not sure how to do so.20:48
mr-blahwilee-nilee:  this is my final attmept20:48
XMLnewbimy money is on mr-blah has a failling harddrive20:48
mr-blahXMLnewbi: that is more likely than me be an idiot.20:48
MonkeyDustmr-blah  i guess you would be more succesful with 13.0420:49
mr-blahMonkeyDust: ok fine 13.04 it is20:49
MonkeyDustmr-blah  is it 13.04 or 13.10 ?20:49
zykotick9ratbert90: easiest way, would be to use the full path to the binary you want to use.20:50
mr-blahMonkeyDust:  its 13.1020:50
TsarObombaHmm  that guy left20:50
MonkeyDustmr-blah  try 13.04, then, forget 13.10 for now20:50
mr-blahMonkeyDust:  i will go to 13.04 if that will work20:50
TsarObombaI gotta jet soon with my son and wife, but any idea why a pastebinit.xml file wouldnt be read?20:50
mr-blahwilee-nilee: can you help me?20:50
ratbert90zykotick9, unfortunately I really can't, it's a sdk that is calling out ldconfig, but ubuntu 13.04 comes with 2.17 which won't work with arm.20:50
TsarObombaits in the home dir, and is formatted just like the man page says20:50
TsarObombaAnother guy said to look in the config directories, but those are just configs for each site, and i know how those work20:51
ratbert90I wasn't sure if there was a POSIX way of dealing with this other than copy/paste a older version of ldconfig which works, but I don't want to make Ubuntu not-stock20:51
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TsarObombaim guessing it may be easier to just do an abash alias of pasbinit -c hosthere20:52
zykotick9ratbert90: i see.  well, good luck with that.  personally, i view 2 binaries/libraries on the same system - as a broken setup (multiarch gets a veto there).20:52
TsarObombaor -b rather20:52
TsarObombai forget, too many projects20:52
mr-blahMonkeyDust: final attempt. 13.10, or 13.04? i need sda1 windows recovry, sda2 windows ntfs, sda3 ubuntu, sda4 swap20:52
mr-blahMonkeyDust:  can you help me?20:52
ratbert90zykotick9, yeah, it would be for a script so that way it won't affect the parent shell20:52
schultzai have a problem.. i was updating ubuntu when the computer was turned off. one of the packages that was updating was oracle's java through a ppa. Java is not correctly installed, im not sure if the other packages were complete installed either. how do i repair what dpkg thinks is installed?20:54
XMLnewbimr-blah   if your spending all this time, wouldnt it be better to just try a clean install on a new hdd, then after you get the hang of it do the fancy partitions20:54
TsarObombalibtaskmanager4abi4 : Depends: libprocesscore4abi1 (= 4:4.11.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1) but 4:4.11.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1 is to be installed20:54
TsarObombalovely20:54
zykotick9schultza: start by trying "sudo apt-get -f install"20:54
TsarObombaanyone see a way of fixing that?20:54
unknown101bye20:54
mr-blahXMLnewbi:  yes because i'm gonna take apart the laptop for that.20:54
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schultza0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. otherwise no errors.20:55
mr-blahXMLnewbi:  i have already wiped the entire dis and reinstalled windows twice today.20:55
zykotick9schultza: that sounds promising.  are you sure you have a problem?20:55
schultzai had to dpkg --configure -a before this20:55
schultzadue to the dpkg lock file20:56
XMLnewbianyone who services laptops knows that 90pct of time the disk drives are failing. its the weekist link in any pcs. at the very least id boot from the disk and do a error check on the drive before attempting an install20:56
zykotick9!lock20:56
zykotick9!aptlock20:56
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »20:56
ratbert90ah20:57
mr-blahXMLnewbi:  which utilty should i use to waste more time?20:57
schultzazykotick9: that does nothing now20:57
zykotick9schultza: right, you already did it.  just wanted to point it out.20:57
ratbert90zykotick9, for future reference, setting the path to the old version first will do the trick, as linux will search in order of path.  so export PATH=/path_to_old_bin/:$PATH works, but export PATH=$PATH:/path_to_old_bin does not20:58
ratbert90the more you know! :D20:58
XMLnewbiburn the ubuntu disk, put it in, press on, click (i will install later), then from the desktop right click on the drive, do error check20:58
schultzai dont remember the list of packages (including an ubuntu-core package) that was interrupted on installing...20:58
schultzaotherwise i do a n apt-get install --reinstall on them20:58
neyderhi there, i have installed a moodle with mail-server task, to just use php-mail function. How can I save resources with other mail server?20:59
mr-blahXMLnewbi:  so when it tells me the disk is fine, whats the next step?21:00
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ChogyDan1is there a tool that can visually show me the wifi situation around my area?21:03
ChogyDan1like http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/21:04
updwhy do you need it21:04
ChogyDan1upd: Im trying to optimize my wifi router, and the guide im following suggested it.  I mean, there's got to be something similar for Ubuntu21:05
updChogyDan1, mybe wicd21:06
updChogyDan1, and wavemon21:07
gr33n7007hKismet21:08
wilee-nilee[/ignore ChogyDan121:08
Ben64ChogyDan1: most routers now have an automatic channel selection21:09
wilee-nileeSorry lol21:09
ChogyDan1:P21:09
SuperLag;)21:09
SuperLagwilee-nilee: busted :)21:09
wilee-nileeLol21:09
SuperLagwilee-nilee: reminds me of the time I pastebinned my work creds before editing the file to mask my password :(21:10
wilee-nileeThe andoid environment is tiny21:11
SuperLaghuh?21:12
updandroid :)21:13
wilee-nileeSuperLag, tiny letters and typing with thumbs, IE android21:14
SuperLagupd: I knew he meant Android... but I'm not sure what he meant in mentioning in, in the context of that conversation. wilee-nilee? :)21:18
derekpockhello21:18
derekpockhelo21:19
derekpockmy name is `whoami`21:19
Marleneeany bandwidth moniter keep the bandwidth log even if my server is rebooted ?21:27
ghostx562hello, i am trying to transfer files from my laptop to my ipad, is there an program that i can download to do so?21:28
ghostx562i need to access my ubuntu files from my ipad21:28
bekksghostx562: which files in particular?21:30
histo!ipod | ghostx56221:30
ubottughostx562: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod21:30
ghostx562bekks, im using vlc on my ipad, so i need to enable upnp, or ftp to connect to ubuntu as a server21:30
ghostx562mainly avi/mkv21:31
bekksStream your videos.21:31
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ghostx562bekks, will try thanks21:34
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mr-blahXMLnewbi: done changing 13.10 to 13.04, about to scan HD.21:36
Dr_Willisghostx562:  check out PLEX  - its a handy dlna server with client for most tablets21:38
ghostx562Dr_Willis, will check it out21:39
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mr-blahhow do i check my hard disk?21:46
bekksmr-blah: check it for what?21:46
Dr_Willis!fsck21:46
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot21:46
mr-blahbekks: XMLnewbi said i should check the disk since ubuntu has hosed my HD twice today21:47
Dr_Willisand how did it hose the hd?21:47
bekksmr-blah: I strongly doubt it was ubuntu.21:47
mr-blahDr_Willis:  here we go again. i've been here all day.21:47
mr-blahbekks:  everyone keeps saying that, and i keep reinstalling and ubuntu keeps hosing it21:48
Dr_Willismr-blah:  if you are having hard drive hardware failure - you want to do smart tests and verify the hd is ok.21:48
bekksmr-blah: I havent read any plausible point that would indicate it was ubuntus fault until now.21:48
mr-blahbekks: help me. i have a clean insall of windows and a 13.04 usb ubuntu21:48
bekksmr-blah: Help you with what?21:48
Dr_Willishoseeing it is rather vague.   if the HD if failing. anything writing to it - can cause the hd to act up and fail.21:48
mr-blahbekks:  install ubuntu. since i have been told that its my fault, prove it.21:49
XMLnewbihe is on a live cd, if you right click on the hdd icon there should be check for error/write faults21:49
mr-blahXMLnewbi:  no21:49
mr-blahXMLnewbi:  no sucj option21:49
rouehola21:49
bekksmr-blah: No, boy. You say its ubuntus fault. You prove it. :)21:49
roueIs there a package with Courier.ttf ?21:49
mr-blahbekks: ok i will. i will install again, and when ubuntu wrecks my drive, i'm putting it on youtube21:50
Dr_Willisroue:  is that one of the Microsoft fonts? if so theres the msstcorefonts packagte that will install all of them21:50
bekksmr-blah: tell us what exactly happens when doing what exactly and tell us exactly what is hosing how.21:50
XMLnewbihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146278521:50
wilee-nileemr-blah, 4 primary partitions then trying to add another on a single HD proves it.21:50
bekksmr-blah: I will not watch a YT video.21:50
roueDr_Willis21:50
Dr_Willismr-blah:  what exactly happens when it 'wrecks'21:50
roueThanks. I'll take a look.21:50
mr-blahbekks: i have a clean install of windows, and a 13.04 USB. walk me through it.21:50
KonataYeah21:50
KonataCourier is a microsoft font21:51
mr-blahDr_Willis: i mean totally hoses21:51
Dr_Willisroue:  if you install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package - it will install those and a lot of other stuff you may alwo want21:51
Dr_Willismr-blah:  be more detailed.. and less vague..21:51
bekksmr-blah: You did it several times now, you dont need help with selecting "Install" and pressing Enter.21:51
mr-blahDr_Willis:  as in won't boot21:51
mr-blahDr_Willis:  as in windows gone21:51
mr-blahDr_Willis:  as in weird boot loader issues21:51
roueGot it. Thanks much all.21:51
bekksmr-blah: Be more precise and not like vague, and not like even more vague.21:52
mr-blahbekks:  by that logic, its ubuntu then21:52
bekksmr-blah: Unless you actually tell us whats happening, I will doubt it.21:52
Dr_Willisa bootloader issue does not mean windows is 'gone'21:52
Dr_Willisunless you mean the windows partion has been removed.21:52
mr-blahbekks: OMG i'vre been here all day, and as soon as one group of people figures out that i'm not a retard, i have to do a long operation, and then ask the same wuestions to different people21:52
Dr_Willismr-blah:  this is why its often a good idea to pastebin what all you have done.21:53
bekksmr-blah: if you arent precise, no one can help you.21:53
XMLnewbilets just help blah test this HDD while he is on the livedisk so he can get on newegg and order a new one...21:53
mr-blahDr_Willis:  i did that, but the guys that were helping left while i installed windows AGAIN21:53
mr-blahXMLnewbi: yes, thank you21:53
mr-blahbekks:  help me test the HD first off21:54
bekksmr-blah: Support in this channel is free - we are all free to leave and join whenever we want it.21:54
mr-blahbekks:  i get it21:54
XMLnewbihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwHKNYOraNM21:54
bekksmr-blah: Did you read what ubottu told you about fsck?21:54
Dr_Willismr-blah:   if you have a pastebin of what all you have done befor. you may want to tell it to us.21:54
Dr_Willismr-blah:  theres smart testing of the hd/hardware, then theres fscking of hte filesystem21:54
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Dr_Willis!smart21:54
ubottusmart is Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology, a monitoring system for hard drives. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools21:54
mr-blahDr_Willis: , bekks , XMLnewbi  here i will let ubuntu hose me disk again for your amusement21:55
Dr_Willismr-blah:  whatever.. getting where you are just wanting to argue instead of answering our questions21:55
bekksmr-blah: I am resting your case since you refuse to get detailed but instead keep on being vague. Good luck.21:55
XMLnewbido NOT install anything on that hhd, boot from livedisk (try option) and watch this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwHKNYOraNM21:55
Dr_Willisyou CAN do the smart testing from a live cd.21:55
Johnny_Linuxmr-blah  do the tests and get back to us.21:56
geomyidaeDoes canonical ever dual license their code or is it pretty much always just gpl3?21:56
mr-blahJohnny_Linux:  bekks  Dr_Willis smart says its fine21:56
wilee-nileegeomyidae, ask them21:56
Dr_WillisHmm. im not even sure you can dual License gpl3.21:56
bekksmr-blah: I dont care anymore.21:56
mr-blahbekks:  i'm sure you dont21:56
Johnny_Linuxtry ubuntu 12.0421:57
mr-blahwilee-nilee: i have finally got windows re installed21:57
wilee-nileeif you enable mr-blah they will ot learn21:57
wilee-nileenot*21:57
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Dr_Willismr-blah:  sounds to me more and more like its a hardware failure on the HD.  Smart dosent always detect those issues.  but im out of here - work time.21:57
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mr-blahSO YOU GUYS CAN"T DECIDE IF THE HD IS BAD OR IM STUPID. GREAT.21:58
Johnny_Linuxno21:58
Johnny_Linuxget back to work21:58
bekksmr-blah: Setting youonto ignore since you just want to argue instead getting some help. Bye.21:58
Dr_Willismr-blah:  theres no definityuve way to prove the hd is bad untill it dies.21:58
Dr_WillisSmart is not a 100% accurate test21:58
mr-blahDr_Willis: yeh i figured21:59
Dr_Williswant to Prove its the HD having the issue.. replace it. and see if a new hd works21:59
mr-blahDr_Willis: i'm just going to get a new computer21:59
Johnny_Linuxim sure there are free windows testing software out there, take the time and try that.22:00
Dr_WillisIve had testing software actually kick the failing hd i was testing.. over the edge. ;)22:00
Johnny_Linuxlol,, me222:00
Dr_WillisHd's truely seem to be the weakest part of the PC hardware equation these days22:00
Johnny_Linuxdont buy junk22:00
Dr_Willisthen Optical drives.22:01
Dr_Willis'junk' is relative.. ive had all makes and models - die.22:01
Dr_Willissome just have better warrenties. :) and get replaced22:01
mr-blahwell at least you guys are accepting that it may be something other than me being a moron.22:01
mr-blahits not like i run ubuntu on several machines, build computers, and write software or anything22:01
Johnny_Linuxthere is a silent chain of command as where to purchase hardware.22:01
Dr_Willismr-blah:  i dont recall anyone saying it was  a PEBKAC issue..  basically sounded like a Hardware issue from the start to me.22:01
neozxczx22:02
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mr-blahits either the HD, or the advanced partitioning tool in 3.10 is whack. although the latter sounds unlikely to me.22:03
mr-blahi never had any of these problems with 12.x22:03
wilee-nileeDr_Willis, 2 hours ago they 4 primary partitions of windows and tried to install ubuntu.22:04
wilee-nileehad*22:04
Johnny_Linuxtheres an app for that22:04
Dr_Williswilee-nilee:  sad how thats getting to be way to common on new hardware22:04
Dr_WillisI noticed my EEE netbook has 3 primary partions. but one is 16mb in size of type 'unknown' Im not even sure what it is. ;)22:05
mr-blahwilee-nilee: no, it was sda1: windows recovery, sda2 windows nfs, sda3 ext4, sda4 swap22:05
Dr_WillisIt is possible to do a full install of Ubuntu Onto a USB flash drive and run totally from flash that way.22:05
wilee-nileeDr_Willis, Yes, this may be a hardware failure, however when I addressed that originaly I mentioned it be a problem unless uefi gpt was involved, they had no knowledge of uefi, nor would guve an image of gparted to confirm anything.22:06
Dr_Williseveryone then will chime in now about how that will wear out your usb. ;) but ive had more HD's fail then USB's so far.22:06
wilee-nileeDr_Willis, eee probably firmware22:06
Johnny_Linuxi run many of the small os's from a sd card.22:07
mr-blahwilee-nilee:  i wouldn't provide the screen of gparted because ubuntu installer completely hosed my disk that time.22:07
baphomet1hey guys.  I was wondering if any of you have been able to successfully connect to an IPSec VPN from your ubuntu client?22:07
mr-blahi had the 13.10 installer do the same thing to another comp last week22:07
Dr_Williswilee-nilee:  yea. I imaged the whole HD to a file as a backup just in case. ;) tempted to replace it with a SSD22:07
bazzerok i've had a total brain fart....how does one find out how many pages a text file is? not how many lines....22:08
Dr_Willisbazzer:  wc has an option. but i think yuou  need to tell it the # of lines per page22:08
mr-blahi am letting the 13.04 installer do whatever it want, so we will se what happens now22:08
wilee-nileemr-blah, We can help you, but you have to work with us, this is not a blame game, but a detail game, and explaining when you do not understand.22:09
bazzerDr_Willis: lets say i don't know :)22:09
Dr_Willisbazzer:  or divide the # of lines by .. err.. 66  think? or was it 80?22:09
Dr_Williswe talking 8.5x11 pages or other sizes? ;)22:09
baphomet1I have entered everything correctly, but can't connect.  I am trying to determine if I am missing some setting on the Ubuntu side or if it is on the server side (also using Ubuntu)22:09
djtf@bazzer depends on pagelength22:09
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bazzerDr_Willis: maybe 80? i just don't want to lpr a novel to the printer and i'm in a shell so....22:09
mr-blahwilee-nilee: i'm giving the 13.04 installer partitioning carte blanch, so we are gonna find out22:09
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jribbazzer: define "page"22:10
baphomet1I have an openVPN tunnel setup that I can connect to but can't get traffic to pass to the WAN when on a network with the same scheme.  any help?22:10
oppositescopezhaha anyone wlling to help me? :D22:10
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wilee-nileemr-blah, Your welcome to imagebin a gparted screenshot.22:10
bazzerjrib: page as in if i print this text file will it be 10 pages of output or 1000? :)22:10
mr-blahi will when its done22:10
djtf@oppositescopez What's up22:10
Dr_Williswc --lines   and divide by 80    ;()22:10
xangua!anyone | oppositescopez22:10
ubottuoppositescopez: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.22:10
oppositescopezok so ANY time i try to sudo apt-get install ANYTHING i get errors ~.~22:10
oppositescopezlike22:10
djtf...22:11
bazzerDr_Willis: i was hoping to avoid that :/22:11
wilee-nilee!pastebin | oppositescopez22:11
ubottuoppositescopez: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:11
jribbazzer: what format is it in?22:11
Dr_Willisbazzer:  i used to use a tool ages ago. that would take a text file and put 2 pages per page. in a landscape type mode. but i cant recall its name22:11
jribbazzer: plaintext?22:11
wilee-nileeoppositescopez, Run a sudo apt-get update and pastebin it.22:11
bazzerjrib: aye22:11
oppositescopezok22:12
bazzerDr_Willis: neat tool22:12
jribbazzer: you could use "enscript" to make it a pdf and then inspect that22:12
baphomet1Or is there a network channel that I should be directing these questions to?22:12
jake[work]hi!  i have a box with multiple IPs.  trying to ssh into the box.  only one address responds.  i can see the request on tcpdump on the other ip, but no response.  i already edited sshconfig and set it to listen to all addresses.  any ideas?22:12
Dr_Willisbazzer:  it Might have been 'enscript'22:12
Dr_Willismpage - print multiple pages per sheet on PostScript printer22:13
Dr_Willisalso seems a handy tool22:13
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Dr_Willis-8     Print 8 normal pages per sheet.22:13
mr-blahwilee-nilee: the first sign of trouble with the previous install was that after creating partitions, the ubuntu installer was no longer recognizing windows22:13
Dr_WillisIf you got GOOD eyes. ;) 8 pages per sheet of paper22:14
wilee-nileemr-blah, Yes of course you had 4 primary partitions, that is the limit you can have, this is basic physics.22:14
baphomet1anyone?22:15
mr-blahwilee-nilee: really physics? sounds like a two bit binary address to me :/22:15
mr-blahwilee-nilee:  oh snap22:15
mr-blahwilee-nilee:  ERROR22:15
mr-blahhere i will image paste22:16
bazzerDr_Willis: wasn't it (way back in the day) 25 col x 80 rows for a console?22:16
honestlyso I just installed ubuntu 13.04 amd64 to a uefi computer with windows 7 installed. when it wanted to shutdown after installing, it just hung. I killed it and now it looks like the windows bootloader is still there in its entirety and there is no grub2. should I just boot into live ubuntu and do the normal grub2 reinstall procedure or is there something else to look for?22:16
nimbioticsAfter allowing some updates earlier today my soundcard started making funny noises as the volume level indicator showed up time after time. After rebooting, I am getting no more audio from my card, even though everythinh 'seems' normal. any ideas? TIA!22:16
wilee-nileemr-blah, I then told you you need 3 primaries and a extended partition the next limit, this allows logical partitions in the extended, as it is a container. Your arguments are stupid, and keep anyone from trying to actually help you.22:16
mr-blahwilee-nilee:  no22:16
wilee-nileemr-blah, YOu are an idiot22:17
mr-blahwilee-nilee:  i let the installer do it this time and got an error22:17
jribbazzer: think how wide 25 columns would be22:17
mr-blahwilee-nilee:  no listen22:17
bazzerjrib: ok flip flop rows/columns? :)22:17
jribbazzer: yes ;)22:17
mr-blahwilee-nilee: i had a clean install of windows, ran the 13.04 installer, i let the install partition it, and now i got an error22:17
oppositescopezi get this error ANY time i use ANY apt-get sommand http://pastebin.com/nn7jkSr122:18
mr-blahwilee-nilee: the 'grub-efi' package failed to install22:18
TsarObombawell before my build server and znc (remote box) went down for a kernel update and i left to go with my kid and woife, i poised a question22:18
oppositescopez*command22:18
TsarObombalibtaskmanager4abi4 : Depends: libprocesscore4abi1 (= 4:4.11.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1) but 4:4.11.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1 is to be installed22:18
mr-blahwilee-nilee:  i'm not an idiot, i'm a prgrammer22:18
TsarObombaany idea on a fix?22:18
jriboppositescopez: have you inspected /usr/share/themes/lfs-black-base-blue/gtk-2.0/gtkrc ?22:18
mr-blahwilee-nilee:  so i have a bad hard disk?22:18
oppositescopezi tried22:19
TsarObombai am using some kde stuff from 13.10 for like two pkgs, but not those22:19
oppositescopezalso the dpkg is messed up 0.o22:19
jriboppositescopez: you have to be more specific.22:19
TsarObombalibtaskmanager4abi4 is required for a plasma widget22:19
bazzerjrib: so the math comes out to 235 pages.... going Dr_Willis's method of wc -l / 8022:19
oppositescopezis there any way to private chat on here?22:19
TsarObombais there a way to use a wild card with apt-get like install blah* and have it not include one certain pkg?22:20
kostkonoppositescopez, yes22:20
TsarObombaI really dont wanna do these all by hand when one screws it up22:20
oppositescopezjrib, or anyone willing to help, can you private chat me for this?22:20
kostkonoppositescopez, /msg nickname or just use the facilities provided by your irc client22:20
mr-blahI started with a clean install of windows, I selected install alongside, let ubuntu do the parition, and got this error: the 'grub-efi' failed to install.22:20
mr-blahAm i still an idiot?22:21
jriboppositescopez: better to use this channel so everyone can help (and benefit)22:21
oppositescopezoh22:21
crystal77When I install a PPA, how does the system know to use that, as opposed to the official list? Do PPA's always take precedence?22:21
mr-blahI have done nothing this time.22:21
oppositescopezok so any time i use sudo apt-get install or anything i get that error at the end22:21
DaphneGreengrasscrystal77, when they have a higher version number22:21
jribcrystal77: no, for each package the latest version will be chosen by default, regardless of source22:21
DaphneGreengrass*the packages22:21
DaphneGreengrassyou can do apt-pinning though22:21
crystal77Oh! That's amazing! Sweet(:22:22
crystal77Can I see what version a package is on, before installing?22:22
oppositescopezmostly i want to know how to fix the chrome cant be ran as root as it makes 6 popups saying you cant run chrome as root22:22
jriboppositescopez: pastebin the file I asked you about22:22
geniicrystal77: The newest version of a package, wherever it's origin, takes precedence22:22
crystal77This is on the server OS btw.22:22
wilee-nileeoppositescopez, what does uname -a show22:22
jriboppositescopez: why are you running chrome as root...?22:22
oppositescopezLinux oppositescopez 3.5.0-27-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 25 20:00:05 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux22:22
oppositescopezand im not running it as root22:22
mr-blahWow, i have been here all day getting insulted, and now it turns out that the disk is screwy, or the installer is screwy.22:22
DaphneGreengrasscrystal77, try this22:22
oppositescopezapparently somewhere something is trying to make it run as root22:22
DaphneGreengrassapt-get -s install nginx22:22
jrib!who | oppositescopez22:23
ubottuoppositescopez: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)22:23
DaphneGreengrassthen you can see the version of nginx that is going to be installed22:23
mr-blahso if you guys are wrong you just igmore? real mature22:23
TsarObombano one knows?22:23
kostkonmr-blah, what do you mean?22:23
* TsarObomba starts pulling teeth22:23
wilee-nileeoppositescopez, What have you not run sudo apt-get update and pastebinned it?22:23
jribmr-blah: sorry you got insulted.  That shouldn't happen here.  But please keep the discussion related to support now22:23
wilee-nileeWhy*22:23
TsarObombaAlso, back to my old question. Who knows about pastebinit besides the man page22:24
oppositescopezone sec @wilee nilee22:24
jribTsarObomba: ask an actual question22:24
Dr_Willismr-blah:  have you once. tried the boot-repair tool from the live cd?22:24
mr-blahTOTALLY UNPROFESSIONAL22:24
wilee-nilee!tab | oppositescopez22:24
ubottuoppositescopez: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.22:24
TsarObombaYou can use a cmd line switch to switch pastebin sites, but i wanna use the xml file like in the man page22:24
TsarObombajrib: umm i have22:24
TsarObombaearlier22:24
whiptailmr-blah, just re format the whole drive and clear the mbr, start over22:24
jribTsarObomba: irc channels like this have 0-line memory22:24
mr-blahDr_Willis: i have done that, and made the boot reapair cd as per the UEFI instructions on ubuntu website22:24
mr-blahwhiptail: I did that.22:25
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TsarObombajrib: i know22:25
Dr_Willismr-blah:  and... ? the boot repair tool has an option to make a big log file that tells us all sorts of info...22:25
TsarObombahence why i said getting bacck to my old question22:25
TsarObombaheez22:25
TsarObombajeez*22:25
mr-blahDr_Willis:  and i postd it earlier22:25
jribTsarObomba: have you tried the example in the man page?  How?  What happened that you did not expect?22:25
TsarObombaSo, thats two qurestions posed in 3min time22:25
TsarObombajrib: yes i did22:25
TsarObombaand it does nothing22:25
TsarObombait acts like the file aint there22:26
TsarObombait just ignores it22:26
jribTsarObomba: pastebin your attempts22:26
TsarObombaSi, if no one has an solution, i am going to just make a bash alias22:26
TsarObombamuch simpler22:26
oppositescopezmy sudo apt-get update - http://pastebin.com/XehNYcYh22:26
Dr_Willismr-blah:  if its just a grub not installing option, then that would suggest one  thing.. if the hd partions are vanishing. thats another entirely difernt issue.22:26
jriboppositescopez: pastebin /usr/share/themes/lfs-black-base-blue/gtk-2.0/gtkrc ?22:26
mr-blahDr_Willis:  i beleive this was the one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6092915/22:26
jake[work]scratch that last question.  i can see a packet has reached my box (via tcpdump) but no services respond(ssh/apache...).  i checked netstat and the services are bound to the all addresses.  i disabled the firewall22:26
Dr_Williswork time for me. so i will be back in about an hr.22:26
oppositescopezoh its not the theme by the way22:27
jriboppositescopez: what do you mean by that?22:27
mr-blahI give up.22:27
oppositescopezbut ill still paste bin it one sec22:27
mr-blahThe installer has hosed two comps in a week.22:27
oppositescopezbecause i had changed it and still got errors looking the same..22:27
DaphneGreengrasscrystal77, btw - earlier command working?22:28
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mr-blahthis is ridiculous22:28
TsarObombajrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094597/22:28
mr-blahhahahaha hte insaller crashed now22:28
jribmr-blah: stop with the random comments please.  Ask a support question and *wait*22:28
oppositescopez@jrib http://pastebin.com/qtwaKs2622:28
TsarObombajrib: and thats the link i got from running pastebinit pastebinit.xml22:29
TsarObombalol22:29
TsarObombaso apparently it does not work22:29
jribTsarObomba: what ubuntu version22:29
mr-blahjrib: actually i think i'm going to go. i'm tired of being called an idiot, and having the ubuntu installer hose HDs22:29
jribmr-blah: as you wish.22:29
TsarObombararing22:29
TsarObombawell kubuntu22:29
jrib!support | mr-blah22:30
ubottumr-blah: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com22:30
jribmr-blah: you may want to try some other support methods too22:30
mr-blahjrib: should i send the installer crash report? nah22:30
TsarObombashouldnt matter same pkg version in ubuntu and kubuntu raring22:30
TsarObombaso its looking eaxsier to make a bash alias22:30
jribTsarObomba: is slexy a supported pastebin?  i.e. you can use it through the command line?22:30
TsarObombayes22:30
TsarObombait works you you use the switch22:31
TsarObomba-b or whatever22:31
TsarObombaor -c22:31
TsarObombai forget22:31
FloodBot1TsarObomba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:31
TsarObombaya ya22:31
wilee-nileeoppositescopez, Your sources list has from karmic to quantal links it is screwed up.22:31
kostkon!enter | TsarObomba22:31
ubottuTsarObomba: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!22:31
TsarObombaomg22:31
kostkon;)22:32
oppositescopezumm...22:32
TsarObombaseriously? thew bot just saiad that crap22:32
TsarObombatime to ignore the bot, i already ignored its pms22:32
kostkon:/22:32
TsarObombaive been using ubuntu since badger, i dont care for lame bots saying nonsense22:32
oppositescopezhehe maybe i forgot to mention im a newb ^-^22:32
wilee-nileeoppositescopez, use this website to set the sources correct, or explain why its all mixed on releases. http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/22:33
LjLTsarObomba: please keep it on-topic here; also, while you're free to ignore the bot, i feel i should point out that if you miss any important messages it may send to you, that won't excuse you from following channel rules22:33
mr-blahjrib: i think i would rather try a diff distro22:33
jribmr-blah: you're free to do whatever you want.  This channel is for support though.22:33
kostkonoppositescopez, per your apt-get update output, i think you need to update your vb repo line to deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian quantal contrib22:34
mr-blahjrib: really? i thought it was to insult people. you guys are starting to remind me of Google22:34
linusoleander: I'm trying to login to my server using ssh and a public key22:35
linusoleanderI'm suddenly getting: Permission denied (publickey).22:35
linusoleanderThis is my trace log: https://gist.github.com/oleander/88917f09c8a99842dc3422:35
linusoleanderWhy I'm I getting this error?22:35
jribmr-blah: since I have been here and we have been having a discussion, I don't believe I have insulted you.  As I said, that's not acceptable in this channel.  However, you also haven't asked a single support question, you seem to just throw random vague comments or threaten to change distros.  None of this is on-topic.22:35
oppositescopezgod my mind just exploded in confusion x.x22:35
xanguamr-blah: the only one insulting you is yourself, drop it and be happy ;)22:35
jriboppositescopez: where is this file /usr/share/themes/lfs-black-base-blue/gtk-2.0/gtkrc coming from?22:35
kostkonoppositescopez, you are getting this warning: "W: Failed to fetch http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/karmic/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'non-free/source/Sources' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)"22:36
LjLmr-blah, i'm sorry if anyone called you an idiot, and that really isn't supposed to happen in this channel; however, what was said above stands22:36
mr-blahxangua: sure pal. whatever you say. you don't sound clever though.22:36
mr-blahyou guys are GOOGLE now22:36
jake[work]omg - i have a real question.  anyone?22:36
wilee-nileefinally22:37
jake[work]whew22:37
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oppositescopezso how exactly do i get that .? @kostkon22:38
jriblinusoleander: did it ever work?22:38
kostkonoppositescopez, easier way is to open the software centre, select edit -> software sources from the menu, and in the 3rd party software, find the line in question and press edit22:38
wilee-nileeoppositescopez, You just have a couple of issues a bad signature, and you need to update that vbox to quantal, do you know how to access the sources.list and edit it?22:38
oppositescopezim trying to follow.. but ive really NEVER done ANYTHING whatsoever with ubuntu.. id say its out of my leauge when managing it22:38
linusoleanderjrib: No, I can't login22:39
oppositescopezok22:39
oppositescopezthat i can do22:39
jriblinusoleander: how did you setup the pubkey auth?22:39
crocketCan I install ubuntu on iPad?22:39
frank___all the suden I can only start my 12.04 ubuntu destop with a comand line.... my graphic desktop is gone22:39
xanguacrocket: don't think so22:39
crocketiOS is terrible.22:39
linusoleanderjrib: ssh-keygen -t rsa om my local machine22:39
crocketno multitasking22:39
linusoleanderCopied the public key to the servers auth-file22:39
oppositescopezid still find this easier in pm22:39
jriblinusoleander: be more specific than "servers auth-file".  What is the path?22:39
linusoleander~./ssh22:40
jriblinusoleander: that is usually a directory.22:40
jake[work]k.  ignore my q.  i'm going to try a different channel22:40
linusoleanderYou asked for a path?22:40
jriblinusoleander: yes, the path to the file you put your pub key in22:40
kostkonoppositescopez, if you have problems editing it, because it will show you 2-3 text fields you will need to change, then just hit delete, press add and put the new line in the text field etc etc22:40
crocketmeh22:41
crocketxangua: Can I install ubuntu on android tablets?22:41
kostkonoppositescopez, i mean delete the old line and then add the new line22:41
linusoleanderjrib: ~/.ssh/authorized_keys22:41
xangua!touch | crocket22:41
ubottucrocket: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch22:41
crocketandroid and iOS are devil.22:41
jriblinusoleander: « ls -ld ~/.ssh{,/authorized_keys} » output on the SERVER22:41
linusoleanderjrib: https://gist.github.com/oleander/9ba4599490c844a3f90222:42
oppositescopez@ kostkon  there is no edit in my software center. or im just being completely blind 0.022:42
jriblinusoleander: are you using encrypted homes on the server?22:42
linusoleanderjrib: No22:43
kostkonoppositescopez, in the menu; you should have an Edit menu option22:43
jriblinusoleander: stop the sshd that's currently running on the server, and then start a new one with "sudo /usr/sbin/sshd -d".  Then try to connect and watch the output on your console on the server (where sshd is running)22:43
TsarObombaLjL: And i realize that. Bot the bot does not follow old school irc netiquette22:44
linusoleanderjrib: If I stop it then I will be kicked out :p22:44
jriblinusoleander: no, your session will persist22:44
TsarObombait msgs you without asking, which is a no no22:44
linusoleanderAha22:44
oppositescopezim on lubuntu if that changes anything, i dont see an edit button 0.022:44
TsarObombaanyways, no answers to either of my questions i see?22:44
kostkonTsarObomba, ubottu the bot you mean?22:44
TsarObombakostkon: i wasnt talking to you22:45
jriblinusoleander: if you want to be somewhat safe, you can start the debugging one on a different port22:45
jribsafer*22:45
kostkonTsarObomba, doesn't matter22:45
TsarObombayes it does22:45
jribTsarObomba: have patience.  I am researching the issue.22:45
linusoleanderjrib: Aha, Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /home/linus22:45
TsarObombajrib: thanks22:45
TsarObombajrib: byw, upstream/dev? upstream where?22:45
jriblinusoleander: interesting.  What are the permissions there?22:45
TsarObombadebian? :P22:45
jribTsarObomba: heh, old dead project22:45
TsarObombaoh ok22:45
kostkonTsarObomba, you are in a public irc channel. nevertheless, let's leave it here22:46
TsarObombakostkon: and im ignoring you mentally, so have a nice day22:46
kostkonTsarObomba, thanks22:46
oppositescopezso im using the "lubuntu software centre" probably a little different then the actualy "ubuntu" one im guessing?22:46
kostkonoppositescopez, oh right22:46
TsarObombathere IS a lightweight ubuntu software center also22:46
linusoleanderjrib: https://gist.github.com/oleander/8ed17ce8c20df2290b8822:47
TsarObombaie app grid22:47
TsarObombahttp://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/app-grid-new-lightweight-ubuntu.html22:47
kostkonTsarObomba, check if you can find software sources in the lubuntu/xfce settings22:47
TsarObombamuch faster than the ubuntu spoftware center/seller22:47
jriblinusoleander: hmm.  Are you sure you read the output from sshd correctly?  not truncated or somethnig?22:47
kostkoncrap22:47
TsarObombakostkon: uh what?22:47
kostkonoppositescopez, check if you can find software sources in the lubuntu/xfce settings22:47
kostkonTsarObomba, wrong nick sorry22:47
TsarObombaits ok22:47
jriblinusoleander: ah wait, it's the ownership.  What's up with that22:48
oppositescopezumm, where might one look for the xfce settings ? o.o22:49
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linusoleanderjrib: Yeah, chown linus /home/linus solved the problem22:49
linusoleanderI've no idea when that was changed22:49
linusoleanderjrib: Thanks22:49
jriblinusoleander: make sure you startup sshd again before shutting down the debug one22:50
linusoleanderYeah22:50
jribTsarObomba: .pastebinit.xml works fine here for slexy.org22:51
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kostkonoppositescopez, the lubuntu software centre is a little limited. you can install the ubuntu software centre if you want. alternatively, you can edit the .list file directly.22:55
oppositescopezwait the ubuntu center works on lubuntu.? o.o22:55
kostkonoppositescopez, you will find the file that refers to the vb repo in /etc/apt/sources.list.d. Just do a:  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d  to find it and then to edit it, give:  sudo nano filename22:56
kostkonoppositescopez, yes22:57
TsarObombajrib: wait.... its hidden?22:57
jriboppositescopez: sure, ubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu are all the same (in the sense that they use the same repositories).  The difference is in the default set of packages installed.  You can even install multiple of those flavors at once22:57
TsarObombaif so, thats the problem22:57
TsarObombai didnt see a .22:57
jribTsarObomba: yes, it starts with a '.'22:57
TsarObombaoh god22:57
TsarObombasorry about thayt22:57
TsarObombabad eyes strike again22:58
jribTsarObomba: :(22:58
Impossiblehow do you check what kernal youre using22:58
TsarObombaim going blind slowly from all these years staring at a screen22:58
wilee-nileeImpossible, uname -a22:58
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Impossiblewilee-nilee: thx22:59
wilee-nileeno prob23:01
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Salamandrehello all23:07
SalamandreI need some help with my 12.04 LTS23:07
Impossibleif i have a windows xp key but not the disk where can i download the disc image or get a copy of a disk23:07
linusoleanderI'm getting "OOM command not allowed when used memory > 'maxmemory'." when trying to work with redis23:08
natsukaoyou can work with GNU/linux Ubuntu as in a VM == Virtual Machine23:08
linusoleanderAnyone know that the problem might be?23:08
natsukaoyou need much cpu and ram23:10
natsukaosearch KVM or XEN for windows xp23:10
natsukaoanyway windows xp was a good choice for many years ago23:10
natsukaobut windows xp does not support IPv623:11
natsukaowindows xp has not anymore support from microsoft23:11
natsukaoi think that is the last one operating system in which is not implemented DRM Digital Restriction Managment23:12
Impossiblenatsukao: okay, so ill install windows 7 in a vm. I wanted a windows os that uses minimal resources23:12
natsukaostarting from windows 7; and with windows 8; you got natively DRM inside23:12
Marleneeanyone here have agood point how to copy files between servers like midnight commander ?23:12
dr_willisMarlenee:  i tend to use sshfs. that makes the server appear in a local folder. ;)23:13
dr_willisthen you can use whatgever file manager you want23:13
natsukaoif you got the possibility to install an update for windows xp; it could be a good think23:14
natsukaosearch it on any torrent23:14
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natsukaobecause i don't know nothing about microsoft operating system23:14
dr_willisi know its basically offtopic here natsukao  ;)23:14
KI7MTjust be aware, sshfs is not async .. and refreshing is needed at times, also, from windows to *nix, windows does nto understand syslink's and will delete the target folder if you remove it, theren the dos2unix thing on files is a pain also.23:15
natsukaoi left shittozz in 2000; when i bought mac os x aqnd i used mac os x till 2008; then i migrated to GNU/linux gNewSense23:15
natsukaoor if you don't find any disk to update windows xp; you can see http://he.net23:16
dr_willisKI7MT:  how are you using sshfs with windows?23:16
me2hello23:16
natsukaowhere you can car sign up23:16
oppositescopezhaha i give up23:17
oppositescopezill live with errors :P23:17
natsukaoso that you can use IPv623:17
me2can someone help me23:17
neverhereme2, what do you need help with?23:17
KI7MTThrough an SSHFS GUI23:17
dr_willisme2:  ask a question. Bunus points if its in a form of a Hiku23:17
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neverheredr_willis, :P23:17
MarleneeKI7MT : can you guide me in using sshfs on my server23:18
KI7MTdr_willis, https://code.google.com/p/win-sshfs/23:18
nabbletdr_willis: double bouns if the answer's an Haiku too23:18
natsukaowhat is win-sshfs ?23:18
me2do u Know enything about ubuntu studio23:19
dr_willisKI7MT:  cool. somtning to look into.  whenevver i boot back to windows....  :) which is rarely23:19
dr_willisme2:  'yes' yes we do... care to ask a better question? ;)23:19
KI7MT*nix to *nx is easy, just follow Ubuntu How-To , Windows has the two issues I mentioned above.23:19
fellayaboyhey ive seen ubuntu for android on the websites im really interested in this...where can i get this? and can my samsung galaxy s4 support this?23:19
dr_willis!info sshfs23:19
ubottusshfs (source: sshfs-fuse): filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4-1ubuntu1 (raring), package size 46 kB, installed size 132 kB23:20
dr_willis!touch | fellayaboy23:20
ubottufellayaboy: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch23:20
dr_willisfellayaboy:  its in very much a testing stage right now.23:20
littlebearfellayaboy: The S4 isn't supported at the moment. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216384123:20
fellayaboyaww man23:21
fellayaboyso the ubuntu mobile...that will have that feature of it converting to a desktop when its docked and having my phone calls appear on my desktop etc23:21
EnissayIs SourceForge.net down or just me xD23:21
me2i need to know how to install ubuntu studio from a flash drive to a flash drive i alredy have the live version on 1 flash drive23:22
natsukaoon the latest microsoft operating systems; microsoft; has removed any link to alternative packages i.e: openoffice23:22
fellayaboyim confused...is that ubuntu for android an application or a whole operating system23:23
natsukaothis is only one example; microsoft is forcing users to use office23:23
fellayaboyim talking about the one that will convert my phone to a ubuntu desktop when docked23:23
dr_willisme2:  same as you would to a real hard drive..  boot with both flash in. tell the instgaller to install to sdb (or whatever it is) and partion it as needed.23:23
natsukaoandroid is an operating system developed from Google23:23
dr_willisme2 be SURE the grub loader goes on the MBR of the Flash you are installing to.23:23
natsukaoAndroid is released with Apache License23:24
natsukaoand its own kernel is based on the linux kernel23:24
dr_willisnatsukao:  so do you have an actual Ubuntu support qquestion? or are you just.. well.. rambling?23:24
kostkonfellayaboy, ubuntu for android is different from ubuntu touch23:24
fellayaboyoh ok..their different then...23:24
natsukaoanyway Android is in storm of eye23:24
me2can you show me somehow or point me to a video23:25
kostkonfellayaboy, both will be able to have full convergence but only on top of the line phones23:25
dr_willisfellayaboy:  there is those ubuntu (linux) inside a VM or whatever it is.. on android in the  android marketplace also.23:25
kostkonfellayaboy, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch#Hardware_requirements23:25
dr_willisme2:  it would be identical to doijgn it to a real hard drive.. Partion the hd. set the mount points for / and swap. let it install. be sure the grub install to.... pull down item  points to the Flash drive23:26
fellayaboyman i would love to just use my phone as my PC and have all my texting done through it as im using the desktop.. does anyone know it it will have native android apk files working for it. cuz i use whatsapp alot and to have that on my desktop launcher would be aweeesomeee23:26
dr_willisme2:  it may even ask to use all of the hd. but i always custome partion my flash drives23:26
fellayaboythanks  kostkon23:26
dr_willisfellayaboy:  texting? Install airdroid on the android device. and you can text from the pc. Or install mightytext i belive can also do it.23:26
fellayaboyreally?23:27
fellayaboybrb23:27
dr_willistheres dozens of  'text from the pc to the phone' apps out there23:27
natsukaoAndroid has violated different times the GNU General Public License; you can see: http://lists.gpl-violations.org/pipermail/legal/23:27
dr_willisAirdroid for android is a MUST have tool. :) I also use mightext23:27
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dr_willisnatsukao:  so do you have an actual Ubuntu support question? If you just want to chit chat - theres #ubuntu-offtopic23:28
fellayaboyi didnt know that...i've used macs where the imessage is almost incoropatated into every device..ipad, ipod, macbooks, iphone mac pros. etc and u can text via phone number or an email account and it would be awesome to have that feature on my ubuntu23:28
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dr_willisfellayaboy:  airdroid - is a must have. ;)  MightyText may or may not do whaat you need. it lets me text from My tablets.. ;)23:29
TsarObombagoogle voice23:29
fellayaboyniice23:29
TsarObombaeven better, cause you get a free number23:29
fellayaboyi know but its not so nicely implemented23:29
natsukaoit seems that any person here must to ask; or can't speak on the channel23:29
TsarObombaand free voicemail and free sms23:29
TsarObombaiuts web based23:29
TsarObombaand android based23:30
TsarObombaon tablets and phones (android)23:30
fellayaboyu have to hit refresh..rather i would love it as a popped up hud23:30
TsarObombano you dont23:30
TsarObombait refreshs automatically23:30
TsarObombajust like gmail23:30
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natsukaoi would to remember that a violation of Freedom of Speech is a violation in all the Costitutional Charts of the any country in the world23:31
fellayaboyand its mainly browser based...rather than an actual app but i do use it but alllssooo... it doesnt use MY phone number as imessage would do23:31
fellayaboyi would have to have 2 seperate lines u know..23:31
dr_willisnatsukao:  enough all ready with the ot rambling.23:31
mrrcpi wish they would launch a imessage app inside itunes or something23:31
natsukaopoint of views23:31
fellayaboyi wish linux or ubuntu would implement that type of feature by standard23:32
dr_willisfellayaboy:  theres a lot they could do. i imagine when that  Ubuntu-Touch gets going - we will see more of it.23:32
fellayaboyuse ur email or phone numbe to send text via this messenger...23:32
natsukaoas said Larry Flint to the Judge in the Court: "opinions are as the ASS; anyone has his own"23:32
fellayaboyyeah im raelly hoping that desktop goes off..i would be the first to just dock my phone and use it as full featured pc so i can browse easier23:33
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fellayaboyit would make my laptop obsolete23:33
dr_willisi allready have several android devices i use as a  'desktop' machine. ;)23:34
fellayaboyhow so dr willis23:34
fellayaboydo u have it connected to a big monitor23:34
KI7MTLOL just don' try to compile buntuils, Glibc or Gcc with your docked phone :-)23:34
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fellayaboyvia hdmi or vga? if so how do u do that23:34
KI7MTbinutils .. ..23:35
fellayaboyhmm how so23:35
fellayaboyyeah all those kernal modification tools23:35
me2is there a way to get the live version ubuntu studio to save settings and stuff because after rebooting all settings are gone23:37
KI7MTmount /home to USB key or things portable.23:38
nabbletme2: i think if you use unetbootin to genearte a live-usb stick, you can allocate space to save settings23:38
oppositescopezlol can i just request pm's really i cant fix this with so much going on23:39
oppositescopezo.0 now no one?23:40
Picioppositescopez: Are you asking a question?23:40
oppositescopezi had before23:41
Picialso..23:41
Pici!quietwebchat23:41
ubottuTo ignore joins, parts and quits from being displayed in the freenode webchat, from the menu in the upper left, select options and then tick the "Hide JOINS/PARTS/QUITS" checkbox.  This setting applies to all channels that you are in.23:41
oppositescopezlike a few minutes ago23:41
fellayaboyairdroid is awesome!23:41
Picioppositescopez: its pretty quiet if you ignore joins/parts/quits here23:41
nabbletoppositescopez: what's the problem? also do what Pici says, it helps a lot ;)23:42
oppositescopezoh, i got alot of broken stuff (from what people told me earlier) relating to errors i get when using ANY apt-get command23:43
oppositescopezhaha ill starrt paste binning everything that i had to paste bin earlier k?23:43
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nabblet!paste23:44
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:44
nabbletoppositescopez: ^23:44
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oppositescopezapt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094803/23:46
natsukaothe website http://www.airdroid.com says with the button Get Airdroid 2 - It's Free23:47
Ben64oppositescopez: you have a lot of bad stuff going on there23:47
natsukaoAirdroid 2; you are Free to download it; but is not Free Software23:47
oppositescopezalong with the error i get at the end of every apt-get command http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094806/23:47
oppositescopezi know i do.. thats why im here :D23:48
Picinatsukao: stop advertising here23:48
natsukaoit is not released under the terms of GNU General Public License23:48
Ben64oppositescopez: what version of ubuntu do you have23:48
oppositescopezlol was about to paste that :p23:48
oppositescopezomg hit a blank on the command for that23:49
oppositescopezi used it like a minute ago23:49
Picilsb_release -a23:49
oppositescopezand its gone from my terminal history o.023:49
Picior cat /etc/issue23:49
oppositescopezmichael@oppositescopez:~$ lsb_release -a LSB Version:core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch Distributor ID:Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 12.10 Release:12.10 Codename:quantal23:50
oppositescopezuhh whoops23:50
oppositescopezforgot to copy link x.x23:50
oppositescopezits lubuntu btw23:50
Ben64well, first off, you need to upgrade to 13.10 before january or lose support. secondly, you really need to fix your sources.list. you have stuff from karmic and precise there, that is definitely not good23:51
oppositescopezhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6094813/ there thats the link23:52
oppositescopezeveen though i already accidently pasted it here23:52
Pici13.04, you can't upgrade to 13.10 directly.23:52
Ben64yeah, but 13.04 loses support in january23:52
oppositescopezhow do i upgrade?23:52
Ben6412.10's support lasts longer than 13.04, since thats when they changed it to 9 months of support23:53
Ben64oppositescopez: the update manager should tell you, but you might need to get apt-get working first.23:53
Ben64!ppa-purge | oppositescopez23:53
ubottuoppositescopez: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html23:53
Pici13.10 isn't even released yet, lets not suggest it quite so easily.23:54
Ben64just saying before january....23:54
Piciyep :)23:54
oppositescopezjust throwing this out here.. completely new to ubuntu o.o23:54
Ben64i'm anticipating lots of problems next year when people can't upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 anymore23:54
LinuxGold?23:55
natsukaoso it is not Free Software; and http://www.airdroid.com does not say which License is used for it; http://www.airdroid.com invites people to buy it; why to buy a package without to know what really is doing that software ? do you ever buy a car without to know if it could curb ? i think that no person is so stupid to mount on car without to know if the car could curb, so why to buy a package or downlaod it for free when you23:55
oppositescopezLinux oppositescopez 3.5.0-27-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 25 20:00:05 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux23:55
Ben64natsukao: what does any of what you're saying relate to ubuntu support?23:55
oppositescopezhaha thats my uname -a someone asked for it earlier so i figured id just paste it23:56
KI7MTThat's always been the case, LTS to LTS is ok, but intermediate, more than one do-release-upgrade to 2nd upg was never supported.23:56
oppositescopezok , so how do i fix this?23:56
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Ben64oppositescopez: use ppa-purge to remove the ppas that you have, remove the virtualbox repo and the dropbox one, then apt-get should be able to work23:57
oppositescopezuhh.. whats a ppa?23:58
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KI7MTwhy you using a Vbox PPA anyway ? The best .deb distros are on the Vbox site if the ones in Ubuntu repos are not up to date.23:59
oppositescopezThe program 'ppa-purge' is currently not installed.23:59
CuRbsudo apt-get purge or sudo aptitude purge23:59
oppositescopezlol  i can attemt to apt-get it? and hope it works.23:59

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