| === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu | ||
| smartboyhw | Riddell, Krita at least draws something | 10:14 |
|---|---|---|
| soee | smartboyhw, hows the exam ? | 10:20 |
| smartboyhw | soee, 1. That's a test-.- 2. It's good, except the bonus question which everybody got it wrong except one person (that guy got the best academic results) | 10:21 |
| soee | ;] | 10:21 |
| soee | good to hear :) | 10:21 |
| smartboyhw | soee, it's a simple one | 10:21 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 11:23 |
| BluesKaj | soee, ~/.kde/share/config/krunnerrc , then you can edit the line under [PlasmaRunnerManager] | 12:17 |
| soee | BluesKaj, let me check | 12:17 |
| BluesKaj | soee, the Launchcounts line | 12:18 |
| soee | BluesKaj, what is this number before some entry | 12:19 |
| soee | 4 services_netbeans-7.3 Beta 2.desktop | 12:19 |
| soee | maybe hits counter | 12:21 |
| soee | * how can i reload krunner ? | 12:22 |
| BluesKaj | alt_F2 , or right click on the desktop . choose run command | 12:24 |
| soee | BluesKaj, i removed old netbeans related entries, killed and started krunner again, but still have old entries on the list | 12:25 |
| BluesKaj | err al+F2 | 12:25 |
| BluesKaj | soee, did yo save the file after editing ? | 12:25 |
| soee | yes | 12:25 |
| soee | the only change is that the item i left in this files | 12:26 |
| soee | now shows up as first on the list | 12:26 |
| Tm_T | http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2013/09/12/introducing-the-qt-webengine/ | 12:29 |
| BluesKaj | soee, then maybe I'm mistaken , perhaps that file can't be edited the way I thought | 12:29 |
| soee | ok thanks anyway Blizzz | 12:30 |
| soee | BluesKaj, ^^ | 12:30 |
| apachelogger | the new qt: now with a browser inside | 12:31 |
| apachelogger | on the plus side there's hope for rekonq after all :P | 12:31 |
| mikhas | strange | 12:32 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/p9d2b2654/ | 12:33 |
| jussi | apachelogger: yeah, "hope" :P | 12:33 |
| BluesKaj | chromium still doesn't integrate well with kde settings in some respects , Qt or no | 12:33 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: I was wondering if I should use some time to do KHTML hacking q-: | 12:33 |
| apachelogger | to get best libdvdcsss experience I guess le key should be added to the whitelist and le website should say in super bold letters "sudo add-apt-repsitory 'deb ...'" | 12:33 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: I know a person that picked up on that like half a year ago :P | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | I do not know why, I am sure he had reasons | 12:34 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: ooh great, I've been too busy for it | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | BluesKaj: such as? | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: delegate ^^ | 12:34 |
| jussi | you know, I wish there was some keyboard shortcut that would bring me directly to the source of the last notification (ie. the same as if the view button was pressed) | 12:34 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: ah, but it's stuff I want to do myself (; | 12:35 |
| apachelogger | jussi: think that would have to be set via quassel | 12:35 |
| jussi | apachelogger: Im not just talking about quassel though | 12:35 |
| jussi | and it should be global | 12:36 |
| BluesKaj | apachelogger, the tab fonts are hard coded and can't be changed to make them readable on a large monitor, that my biggest peeve | 12:36 |
| soee | BluesKaj, i have removed also old file sin .local/share/applications now it looks liek old stuff is removed | 12:36 |
| jussi | so it works whereever | 12:36 |
| apachelogger | jussi: impossibru | 12:36 |
| jussi | apachelogger: why? | 12:36 |
| BluesKaj | soee, let me check | 12:36 |
| apachelogger | say you have a key combo (which is likely) while you are trying to use that no new notifications need to get focus | 12:36 |
| apachelogger | so say you have CTRL+F1 while CTRL is pressed no notification must ever be displayed | 12:37 |
| apachelogger | otherwise there comes a notification with button "wanna delete /" and kaboom | 12:37 |
| jussi | hrr | 12:37 |
| BluesKaj | soee, I don't see anything related to krunner there | 12:38 |
| jussi | can it just be applied to certain applications? | 12:38 |
| apachelogger | (on a semi-related note a noticiation can have n (possibly <=2) buttons, and which button does what is not exactly specified as such) | 12:38 |
| apachelogger | so if you had F1 and F2 assigned it could be that F1 is reply in quassel and F2 is dicsard and in KTP is the other way around | 12:38 |
| jussi | mind, in ancase the view button doesnt work half the time anyway | 12:38 |
| apachelogger | not the biggest of issues that is, but it just highlights insufficiencies ^^ | 12:39 |
| soee | BluesKaj, i had old netbeans v. XX .desktop files and i rmeoved them, than krunner restart | 12:39 |
| BluesKaj | soee, ok | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | jussi: I don't think applying for certain apps would make much sense either | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | would be confusing IMO | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | iff we had a message-indicator it would be slightly different though :P | 12:40 |
| jussi | ... | 12:40 |
| apachelogger | doesn't solve the timing problem though | 12:40 |
| apachelogger | it'd still be annoying if you hit CTRL+F1 and ktp comes up rather than quassel | 12:41 |
| apachelogger | might just as well have clicked then ^^ | 12:41 |
| apachelogger | so in conculsion I believe the experience will be better if that is handled by the applications rather than globally | 12:41 |
| jussi | sigh... | 12:41 |
| jussi | why dont we have messaging menu anyway? | 12:42 |
| jussi | :P | 12:42 |
| apachelogger | that you will have to ask d_ed who is conveniently enough hiding | 12:42 |
| jussi | heh | 12:42 |
| smartboyhw | heh heh | 12:42 |
| apachelogger | jussi: #kde-devel | 12:43 |
| jussi | nih? :P :P | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | not sure if the ktp people ever thought about it tho | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | that being said if we had to get a menu I'd imagine this to be part of KTP what with KTP being the messaging hub | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | ah d_ed_! | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | jussi wanted to harass you | 12:44 |
| jussi | ambush! :D | 12:44 |
| * jussi hugs d_ed_ | 12:44 | |
| d_ed_ | ooh, I like that kind of ambush | 12:44 |
| jussi | d_ed_: we were just having a conversation about having a global shortcut to activate unread messages | 12:45 |
| jussi | which raised the question... | 12:45 |
| jussi | [15:42:07] <jussi> why dont we have messaging menu anyway? | 12:45 |
| d_ed_ | what's a messaging menu? | 12:45 |
| jussi | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu | 12:46 |
| shadeslayer | \o | 12:46 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, o/ | 12:46 |
| jussi | heya shadeslayer | 12:46 |
| d_ed_ | shadeslayer: hola! | 12:47 |
| shadeslayer | hola indeed | 12:47 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: aaah yes, how is spain? | 12:47 |
| jussi | warm enough for you? | 12:47 |
| shadeslayer | it was wet when I arrived | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | com estas? | 12:48 |
| shadeslayer | probably from being too excited | 12:48 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, too excited? When did you arrive at Spain? -.- | 12:48 |
| smartboyhw | The time factor will make sense | 12:48 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I think it's 'como estas" | 12:48 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: and I'm just a bit tired | 12:48 |
| d_ed_ | so anyway, on topic: there was some sort of plasmoid - that worked | 12:49 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: I don't think you got the sexual innuendo xD | 12:49 |
| d_ed_ | it showed an envelope in the systray when you had a new message | 12:49 |
| d_ed_ | the problem was - so did we | 12:49 |
| shadeslayer | or maybe no one did | 12:49 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, uh hum, I thought you are talking about US Open -.- | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: sez who? | 12:49 |
| d_ed_ | and we couldn't remove it as we needed it for other distros | 12:49 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: sez the site I am learning Spainish from | 12:49 |
| shadeslayer | as well as Google | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | I am reasonable certain in cataln it's com | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: halp | 12:50 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: ? | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | d_ed_: which is why I think ktp needs to pick up on that and integrate the mailz and ircs and stuff | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: is it como estas or com estas | 12:50 |
| jussi | d_ed_: ahh interesting | 12:51 |
| afiestas | http://translate.google.com/#en/es/how%20are%20you | 12:51 |
| jussi | d_ed_: could you not just have on/off switch? or is it too much work to maintain? | 12:51 |
| afiestas | just add the missing ? at the end | 12:51 |
| afiestas | d_ed_: queso ! | 12:51 |
| d_ed_ | yeah, I think at the time, we were coming up to 0.5 our first reelase in Kubuntu | 12:51 |
| d_ed_ | queso fiesta! | 12:52 |
| d_ed_ | and there were time constraints | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: in catalan as well? | 12:52 |
| afiestas | d_ed_: fiesta de queso ! | 12:52 |
| * smartboyhw needs to invent a plugin to translate anything non-English into English | 12:52 | |
| d_ed_ | if you could make it so your plasmoid reported on dbus whether it existed or not | 12:52 |
| d_ed_ | we could make it work | 12:52 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: http://translate.google.com/#en/ca/how%20are%20you | 12:52 |
| d_ed_ | I can give you code for that | 12:52 |
| afiestas | missing ? as well | 12:52 |
| afiestas | but we don't have opening ¿ | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | d_ed_: without the plasmoid thing from us | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | which is unmaintained crud | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | I want an upstream solution for this | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | kmail should integrate with ktp's presence plasmoid | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | and so should the konversation | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | so I have one place to go when I want to talk with mister party | 12:53 |
| afiestas | apoi: mck182_ and I wanted to work on this | 12:53 |
| afiestas | then d_ed_ came and say "This is going to be bad" | 12:53 |
| jussi | apachelogger: i like thatg idea | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: see, my catalan is better than yours | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | muhahaha | 12:53 |
| afiestas | so we stop :p | 12:53 |
| d_ed_ | I'm sure that's exactly what happened | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | d_ed_ doesn't say bad | 12:54 |
| afiestas | d_ed_: it is! | 12:54 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I'm learning spainish not catalan, and the sentence is almost similar so I thought you were saying that in spainish | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | not a posh enough word | 12:54 |
| afiestas | well yeah he said it in the british way you know | 12:54 |
| afiestas | http://bridgesandtangents.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/english1.jpg | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | there ya have it | 12:54 |
| afiestas | I almost agree on doing this... | 12:55 |
| apachelogger | xD | 12:55 |
| afiestas | I only have a few minor comments on it | 12:55 |
| jussi | d_ed_: ok, so to sum up, do you have a way forward that you would like? | 12:55 |
| afiestas | d_ed_: that's closer to what happened, no? :p | 12:55 |
| d_ed_ | I was translating! | 12:55 |
| d_ed_ | afiestas: seriously though, I do vaguely remember this | 12:55 |
| mck182_ | I do not. | 12:55 |
| mck182_ | I remember we wanted to have some presence thinggy | 12:56 |
| mck182_ | but for messages....? | 12:56 |
| d_ed_ | afiestas: I think I said we need to focus on getting libkpeople done before taking on new projects | 12:56 |
| afiestas | d_ed_: nah, you hell this global pressence thing was going to open the gates of hell | 12:56 |
| afiestas | but we did not stop working on it because of that, we just stop | 12:56 |
| afiestas | apol did some code though | 12:56 |
| apol | I did work on it for some hours though | 12:56 |
| apol | yep x | 12:57 |
| apol | xD | 12:57 |
| * apol opens the not-so-quickgit | 12:57 | |
| apachelogger | apol's $HOME contains hell.cpp | 12:57 |
| d_ed_ | afiestas: since when do you ever listen to me anyway? | 12:57 |
| d_ed_ | :) | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | slowgit \o/ | 12:57 |
| apol | http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Fapol%2Fuserpresence.git | 12:57 |
| jussi | d_ed_: everyone listens to you... | 12:57 |
| afiestas | d_ed_: I always listen to you! I love your accent it is dogs bollocks | 12:57 |
| * apachelogger wonders what he was doing before musing on a browser in the browser | 12:57 | |
| afiestas | :p | 12:57 |
| afiestas | sorry | 12:58 |
| d_ed_ | I'm impressed | 12:58 |
| afiestas | your *lack* of accent | 12:58 |
| apachelogger | now you have to say "pardon my french" | 12:58 |
| jussi | afiestas: with the greatest respect, you got that all wrong :D | 12:58 |
| jussi | :P | 12:58 |
| mck182_ | shadeslayer: what was that command line thing for viewing cups things? | 12:58 |
| * jussi hugs afiestas | 12:58 | |
| * d_ed_ hugs too | 12:59 | |
| shadeslayer | d_ed_: I don't think you can wrap your arms around the both of them | 12:59 |
| shadeslayer | mck182_: I just check the cups error log | 13:00 |
| mck182_ | ah right | 13:00 |
| * mck182_ enables logging | 13:00 | |
| shadeslayer | http://localhost:631/admin | 13:00 |
| * apachelogger insults everyone who contributes to hugging | 13:00 | |
| shadeslayer | "Save debugging information for troubleshooting" | 13:00 |
| shadeslayer | then view error log | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: on the other hand d_ed_ has freakishly long arms | 13:01 |
| d_ed_ | wtf! | 13:01 |
| d_ed_ | where did that come from | 13:01 |
| d_ed_ | they're standard sized! | 13:01 |
| jussi | insults... | 13:01 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I think they're standard sized for a brit | 13:01 |
| jussi | see now, we shat speak about apachelogger's weirdly strange accent... | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | nonono | 13:02 |
| shadeslayer | shat? lol | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | we should talk about how I write en_US but speak at_UK | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | because I can, that's why | 13:03 |
| apachelogger | muhahaha | 13:03 |
| * apachelogger scuttles off to find moar coffee | 13:03 | |
| smartboyhw | Anyone can think of why we didn't package https://bitbucket.org/cyrille/cauchy ? | 13:33 |
| smartboyhw | (The last unpackaged build-dep of calligra | 13:34 |
| smartboyhw | License issues? | 13:34 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: it wasn't released when last I looked | 13:34 |
| Riddell | so cyrille suggested to wait | 13:34 |
| Riddell | yeah still no tar | 13:34 |
| smartboyhw | -.- | 13:34 |
| smartboyhw | It's 7 months without development | 13:35 |
| Riddell | you can ask him again if he thinks it's ready or not but then do we want it after FF if upstream advise against? | 13:35 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, if upstream advises against, certainly not | 13:36 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon. | 13:54 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, CyrilleB thinks it's ready and he will make a release soon. | 14:04 |
| smartboyhw | But now I'm confused with the 4 COPYRIGHT files in there | 14:05 |
| === TheOneRing_ is now known as TheOneRing | ||
| Riddell | smartboyhw: yeah he said he'd make a release soon last time I asked :) | 14:16 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, he actually made one;P | 14:16 |
| smartboyhw | 0.9.0 is now released | 14:16 |
| Riddell | ah hah, you must be better at poking than me :) | 14:16 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, hell, I'm getting 3 versioned .so files, and I need to make 10 packages-.- | 14:16 |
| Riddell | uh oh | 14:17 |
| smartboyhw | kubotu: newpackage cauchy 0.9.0 | 14:40 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1224514 | 14:40 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, I'm getting weird stuff here | 14:49 |
| smartboyhw | The so files are like *.so.0.0 | 14:49 |
| smartboyhw | Instead of .0 | 14:49 |
| mikhas | did someone release a version 0.0? ;-) | 14:55 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: consider this a test of your packaging skills :) | 14:56 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: pass this and you'll fly by tomorrow :) | 14:57 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, you want me to patch it, or? | 14:57 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: probably he set that manually in a cmake file? what's the SONAME it ends up with? | 14:57 |
| Riddell | no don't patch it, it shouldn't be a problem | 14:57 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, wait, dealing with install files | 14:57 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: what's the full file name? | 14:57 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, libCauchy.so.0.0 | 14:57 |
| smartboyhw | libCauchy.so.0.9.13 | 14:57 |
| smartboyhw | libCauchy.so.0 | 14:57 |
| smartboyhw | *oops, libCauchy.so | 14:58 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: and what's the soname? readelf -a foo | grep SONAME | 14:58 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, as I said, dealing with install files-- | 14:58 |
| smartboyhw | -.- | 14:58 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: you can't deal with the install files until you know what the package should be called | 14:59 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, I know, but can rename them later | 14:59 |
| * yofel notes that SONAMES don't have to be a single number | 15:00 | |
| yofel | erm, SOVERSION | 15:00 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, [libCauchy.so.0.0] | 15:01 |
| smartboyhw | (SONAME) | 15:01 |
| yofel | so, package name is? | 15:01 |
| smartboyhw | I find this weird design | 15:01 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, .0.0 | 15:01 |
| yofel | erm, FULL package name | 15:01 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, libcauchy0.0 | 15:01 |
| smartboyhw | -.- | 15:01 |
| yofel | ack | 15:01 |
| yofel | it's not weird design at all, just unusual | 15:01 |
| yofel | attica does the same | 15:02 |
| smartboyhw | phew, renaming work complete | 15:05 |
| smartboyhw | Now, have to work out the descriptions | 15:06 |
| === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter | ||
| smartboyhw | Riddell, am confused: Added dependencies as according to http://lintian.debian.org/tags/ruby-script-but-no-ruby-dep.html and it still shows up | 15:14 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, ^ | 15:18 |
| yofel | I can't say anything more than lintian without seeing what you did and the actual script | 15:20 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, http://paste.kde.org/p8d00ee24/ | 15:21 |
| smartboyhw | http://paste.kde.org/p5d8e572b/ | 15:22 |
| smartboyhw | (The binary is included in the cauchy package) | 15:22 |
| smartboyhw | E: cauchy: ruby-script-but-no-ruby-dep usr/bin/cauchymake | 15:22 |
| yofel | hm, no idea | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | did you rebuild the binary? :P | 15:25 |
| smartboyhw | apachelogger, that happened always | 15:26 |
| smartboyhw | Whenever I rebuild | 15:26 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: did you do a clean rebuild? | 15:29 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, clean rebuilding | 15:31 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: well ignore for now we'll work it out later | 15:32 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, OK-.- | 15:32 |
| smartboyhw | Found the problem | 15:35 |
| smartboyhw | Maybe? | 15:35 |
| smartboyhw | Yes | 15:36 |
| smartboyhw | I misspelt interpreter-.- | 15:36 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, I can't finish the package today. Still thinking what description should it have (no README, no introduction on web, etc.) | 15:48 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: might be best to just ask cyrille directly, I've had much the same issues with his other calligra dependencies | 16:03 |
| jmux | Seems that private application icons in Precise KDE 4.11.1 are broken. They worked with Precise 4.11.0 and they work in Raring 4.11.1. I see missing icons in kolourpaint, ksudoku, digikam, ... is this just a local problem (to our installations)? | 16:25 |
| Riddell | jmux: hmm that's a known issue which we patched | 16:25 |
| Riddell | but maybe I only patched raring | 16:26 |
| Riddell | jmux: yeah I did, I'll put it into precise and quantal too | 16:26 |
| jmux | Riddell: thanks. | 16:27 |
| yofel | Riddell: quantal is still in staging so please upload it there | 16:27 |
| Riddell | gotcha yofel | 16:28 |
| Riddell | jmux: 4.11.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.1~ppa3 uploaded to kubuntu-ppa/backports for precise | 16:36 |
| Riddell | and staging for quantal | 16:39 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 16:58 |
| Quintasan | seems like I can cook after all | 16:58 |
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