=== kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [10:14] Riddell, Krita at least draws something [10:20] smartboyhw, hows the exam ? [10:21] soee, 1. That's a test-.- 2. It's good, except the bonus question which everybody got it wrong except one person (that guy got the best academic results) [10:21] ;] [10:21] good to hear :) [10:21] soee, it's a simple one [11:23] 'Morning all [12:17] soee, ~/.kde/share/config/krunnerrc , then you can edit the line under [PlasmaRunnerManager] [12:17] BluesKaj, let me check [12:18] soee, the Launchcounts line [12:19] BluesKaj, what is this number before some entry [12:19] 4 services_netbeans-7.3 Beta 2.desktop [12:21] maybe hits counter [12:22] * how can i reload krunner ? [12:24] alt_F2 , or right click on the desktop . choose run command [12:25] BluesKaj, i removed old netbeans related entries, killed and started krunner again, but still have old entries on the list [12:25] err al+F2 [12:25] soee, did yo save the file after editing ? [12:25] yes [12:26] the only change is that the item i left in this files [12:26] now shows up as first on the list [12:29] http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2013/09/12/introducing-the-qt-webengine/ [12:29] soee, then maybe I'm mistaken , perhaps that file can't be edited the way I thought [12:30] ok thanks anyway Blizzz [12:30] BluesKaj, ^^ [12:31] the new qt: now with a browser inside [12:31] on the plus side there's hope for rekonq after all :P [12:32] strange [12:33] Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/p9d2b2654/ [12:33] apachelogger: yeah, "hope" :P [12:33] chromium still doesn't integrate well with kde settings in some respects , Qt or no [12:33] apachelogger: I was wondering if I should use some time to do KHTML hacking q-: [12:33] to get best libdvdcsss experience I guess le key should be added to the whitelist and le website should say in super bold letters "sudo add-apt-repsitory 'deb ...'" [12:34] Tm_T: I know a person that picked up on that like half a year ago :P [12:34] I do not know why, I am sure he had reasons [12:34] apachelogger: ooh great, I've been too busy for it [12:34] BluesKaj: such as? [12:34] Tm_T: delegate ^^ [12:34] you know, I wish there was some keyboard shortcut that would bring me directly to the source of the last notification (ie. the same as if the view button was pressed) [12:35] apachelogger: ah, but it's stuff I want to do myself (; [12:35] jussi: think that would have to be set via quassel [12:35] apachelogger: Im not just talking about quassel though [12:36] and it should be global [12:36] apachelogger, the tab fonts are hard coded and can't be changed to make them readable on a large monitor, that my biggest peeve [12:36] BluesKaj, i have removed also old file sin .local/share/applications now it looks liek old stuff is removed [12:36] so it works whereever [12:36] jussi: impossibru [12:36] apachelogger: why? [12:36] soee, let me check [12:36] say you have a key combo (which is likely) while you are trying to use that no new notifications need to get focus [12:37] so say you have CTRL+F1 while CTRL is pressed no notification must ever be displayed [12:37] otherwise there comes a notification with button "wanna delete /" and kaboom [12:37] hrr [12:38] soee, I don't see anything related to krunner there [12:38] can it just be applied to certain applications? [12:38] (on a semi-related note a noticiation can have n (possibly <=2) buttons, and which button does what is not exactly specified as such) [12:38] so if you had F1 and F2 assigned it could be that F1 is reply in quassel and F2 is dicsard and in KTP is the other way around [12:38] mind, in ancase the view button doesnt work half the time anyway [12:39] not the biggest of issues that is, but it just highlights insufficiencies ^^ [12:39] BluesKaj, i had old netbeans v. XX .desktop files and i rmeoved them, than krunner restart [12:39] soee, ok [12:39] jussi: I don't think applying for certain apps would make much sense either [12:39] would be confusing IMO [12:40] iff we had a message-indicator it would be slightly different though :P [12:40] ... [12:40] doesn't solve the timing problem though [12:41] it'd still be annoying if you hit CTRL+F1 and ktp comes up rather than quassel [12:41] might just as well have clicked then ^^ [12:41] so in conculsion I believe the experience will be better if that is handled by the applications rather than globally [12:41] sigh... [12:42] why dont we have messaging menu anyway? [12:42] :P [12:42] that you will have to ask d_ed who is conveniently enough hiding [12:42] heh [12:42] heh heh [12:43] jussi: #kde-devel [12:43] nih? :P :P [12:43] not sure if the ktp people ever thought about it tho [12:43] that being said if we had to get a menu I'd imagine this to be part of KTP what with KTP being the messaging hub [12:43] ah d_ed_! [12:44] jussi wanted to harass you [12:44] ambush! :D [12:44] * jussi hugs d_ed_ [12:44] ooh, I like that kind of ambush [12:45] d_ed_: we were just having a conversation about having a global shortcut to activate unread messages [12:45] which raised the question... [12:45] [15:42:07] why dont we have messaging menu anyway? [12:45] what's a messaging menu? [12:46] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu [12:46] \o [12:46] shadeslayer, o/ [12:46] heya shadeslayer [12:47] shadeslayer: hola! [12:47] hola indeed [12:47] shadeslayer: aaah yes, how is spain? [12:47] warm enough for you? [12:47] it was wet when I arrived [12:48] com estas? [12:48] probably from being too excited [12:48] shadeslayer, too excited? When did you arrive at Spain? -.- [12:48] The time factor will make sense [12:48] apachelogger: I think it's 'como estas" [12:48] apachelogger: and I'm just a bit tired [12:49] so anyway, on topic: there was some sort of plasmoid - that worked [12:49] smartboyhw: I don't think you got the sexual innuendo xD [12:49] it showed an envelope in the systray when you had a new message [12:49] the problem was - so did we [12:49] or maybe no one did [12:49] shadeslayer, uh hum, I thought you are talking about US Open -.- [12:49] shadeslayer: sez who? [12:49] and we couldn't remove it as we needed it for other distros [12:49] apachelogger: sez the site I am learning Spainish from [12:49] as well as Google [12:50] I am reasonable certain in cataln it's com [12:50] afiestas: halp [12:50] apachelogger: ? [12:50] d_ed_: which is why I think ktp needs to pick up on that and integrate the mailz and ircs and stuff [12:50] afiestas: is it como estas or com estas [12:51] d_ed_: ahh interesting [12:51] http://translate.google.com/#en/es/how%20are%20you [12:51] d_ed_: could you not just have on/off switch? or is it too much work to maintain? [12:51] just add the missing ? at the end [12:51] d_ed_: queso ! [12:51] yeah, I think at the time, we were coming up to 0.5 our first reelase in Kubuntu [12:52] queso fiesta! [12:52] and there were time constraints [12:52] afiestas: in catalan as well? [12:52] d_ed_: fiesta de queso ! [12:52] * smartboyhw needs to invent a plugin to translate anything non-English into English [12:52] if you could make it so your plasmoid reported on dbus whether it existed or not [12:52] we could make it work [12:52] apachelogger: http://translate.google.com/#en/ca/how%20are%20you [12:52] I can give you code for that [12:52] missing ? as well [12:52] but we don't have opening ¿ [12:52] d_ed_: without the plasmoid thing from us [12:52] which is unmaintained crud [12:52] I want an upstream solution for this [12:53] kmail should integrate with ktp's presence plasmoid [12:53] and so should the konversation [12:53] so I have one place to go when I want to talk with mister party [12:53] apoi: mck182_ and I wanted to work on this [12:53] then d_ed_ came and say "This is going to be bad" [12:53] apachelogger: i like thatg idea [12:53] shadeslayer: see, my catalan is better than yours [12:53] muhahaha [12:53] so we stop :p [12:54] I'm sure that's exactly what happened [12:54] d_ed_ doesn't say bad [12:54] d_ed_: it is! [12:54] apachelogger: I'm learning spainish not catalan, and the sentence is almost similar so I thought you were saying that in spainish [12:54] not a posh enough word [12:54] well yeah he said it in the british way you know [12:54] http://bridgesandtangents.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/english1.jpg [12:54] there ya have it [12:55] I almost agree on doing this... [12:55] xD [12:55] I only have a few minor comments on it [12:55] d_ed_: ok, so to sum up, do you have a way forward that you would like? [12:55] d_ed_: that's closer to what happened, no? :p [12:55] I was translating! [12:55] afiestas: seriously though, I do vaguely remember this [12:55] I do not. [12:56] I remember we wanted to have some presence thinggy [12:56] but for messages....? [12:56] afiestas: I think I said we need to focus on getting libkpeople done before taking on new projects [12:56] d_ed_: nah, you hell this global pressence thing was going to open the gates of hell [12:56] but we did not stop working on it because of that, we just stop [12:56] apol did some code though [12:56] I did work on it for some hours though [12:57] yep x [12:57] xD [12:57] * apol opens the not-so-quickgit [12:57] apol's $HOME contains hell.cpp [12:57] afiestas: since when do you ever listen to me anyway? [12:57] :) [12:57] slowgit \o/ [12:57] http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Fapol%2Fuserpresence.git [12:57] d_ed_: everyone listens to you... [12:57] d_ed_: I always listen to you! I love your accent it is dogs bollocks [12:57] * apachelogger wonders what he was doing before musing on a browser in the browser [12:57] :p [12:58] sorry [12:58] I'm impressed [12:58] your *lack* of accent [12:58] now you have to say "pardon my french" [12:58] afiestas: with the greatest respect, you got that all wrong :D [12:58] :P [12:58] shadeslayer: what was that command line thing for viewing cups things? [12:58] * jussi hugs afiestas [12:59] * d_ed_ hugs too [12:59] d_ed_: I don't think you can wrap your arms around the both of them [13:00] mck182_: I just check the cups error log [13:00] ah right [13:00] * mck182_ enables logging [13:00] http://localhost:631/admin [13:00] * apachelogger insults everyone who contributes to hugging [13:00] "Save debugging information for troubleshooting" [13:00] then view error log [13:01] shadeslayer: on the other hand d_ed_ has freakishly long arms [13:01] wtf! [13:01] where did that come from [13:01] they're standard sized! [13:01] insults... [13:01] apachelogger: I think they're standard sized for a brit [13:02] see now, we shat speak about apachelogger's weirdly strange accent... [13:02] nonono [13:02] shat? lol [13:02] we should talk about how I write en_US but speak at_UK [13:03] because I can, that's why [13:03] muhahaha [13:03] * apachelogger scuttles off to find moar coffee [13:33] Anyone can think of why we didn't package https://bitbucket.org/cyrille/cauchy ? [13:34] (The last unpackaged build-dep of calligra [13:34] License issues? [13:34] smartboyhw: it wasn't released when last I looked [13:34] so cyrille suggested to wait [13:34] yeah still no tar [13:34] -.- [13:35] It's 7 months without development [13:35] you can ask him again if he thinks it's ready or not but then do we want it after FF if upstream advise against? [13:36] Riddell, if upstream advises against, certainly not [13:54] Good afternoon. [14:04] Riddell, CyrilleB thinks it's ready and he will make a release soon. [14:05] But now I'm confused with the 4 COPYRIGHT files in there === TheOneRing_ is now known as TheOneRing [14:16] smartboyhw: yeah he said he'd make a release soon last time I asked :) [14:16] Riddell, he actually made one;P [14:16] 0.9.0 is now released [14:16] ah hah, you must be better at poking than me :) [14:16] Riddell, hell, I'm getting 3 versioned .so files, and I need to make 10 packages-.- [14:17] uh oh [14:40] kubotu: newpackage cauchy 0.9.0 [14:40] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1224514 [14:49] Riddell, I'm getting weird stuff here [14:49] The so files are like *.so.0.0 [14:49] Instead of .0 [14:55] did someone release a version 0.0? ;-) [14:56] smartboyhw: consider this a test of your packaging skills :) [14:57] smartboyhw: pass this and you'll fly by tomorrow :) [14:57] Riddell, you want me to patch it, or? [14:57] smartboyhw: probably he set that manually in a cmake file? what's the SONAME it ends up with? [14:57] no don't patch it, it shouldn't be a problem [14:57] Riddell, wait, dealing with install files [14:57] smartboyhw: what's the full file name? [14:57] Riddell, libCauchy.so.0.0 [14:57] libCauchy.so.0.9.13 [14:57] libCauchy.so.0 [14:58] *oops, libCauchy.so [14:58] smartboyhw: and what's the soname? readelf -a foo | grep SONAME [14:58] Riddell, as I said, dealing with install files-- [14:58] -.- [14:59] smartboyhw: you can't deal with the install files until you know what the package should be called [14:59] Riddell, I know, but can rename them later [15:00] * yofel notes that SONAMES don't have to be a single number [15:00] erm, SOVERSION [15:01] Riddell, [libCauchy.so.0.0] [15:01] (SONAME) [15:01] so, package name is? [15:01] I find this weird design [15:01] yofel, .0.0 [15:01] erm, FULL package name [15:01] yofel, libcauchy0.0 [15:01] -.- [15:01] ack [15:01] it's not weird design at all, just unusual [15:02] attica does the same [15:05] phew, renaming work complete [15:06] Now, have to work out the descriptions === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [15:14] Riddell, am confused: Added dependencies as according to http://lintian.debian.org/tags/ruby-script-but-no-ruby-dep.html and it still shows up [15:18] yofel, ^ [15:20] I can't say anything more than lintian without seeing what you did and the actual script [15:21] yofel, http://paste.kde.org/p8d00ee24/ [15:22] http://paste.kde.org/p5d8e572b/ [15:22] (The binary is included in the cauchy package) [15:22] E: cauchy: ruby-script-but-no-ruby-dep usr/bin/cauchymake [15:25] hm, no idea [15:25] did you rebuild the binary? :P [15:26] apachelogger, that happened always [15:26] Whenever I rebuild [15:29] smartboyhw: did you do a clean rebuild? [15:31] Riddell, clean rebuilding [15:32] smartboyhw: well ignore for now we'll work it out later [15:32] Riddell, OK-.- [15:35] Found the problem [15:35] Maybe? [15:36] Yes [15:36] I misspelt interpreter-.- [15:48] Riddell, I can't finish the package today. Still thinking what description should it have (no README, no introduction on web, etc.) [16:03] smartboyhw: might be best to just ask cyrille directly, I've had much the same issues with his other calligra dependencies [16:25] Seems that private application icons in Precise KDE 4.11.1 are broken. They worked with Precise 4.11.0 and they work in Raring 4.11.1. I see missing icons in kolourpaint, ksudoku, digikam, ... is this just a local problem (to our installations)? [16:25] jmux: hmm that's a known issue which we patched [16:26] but maybe I only patched raring [16:26] jmux: yeah I did, I'll put it into precise and quantal too [16:27] Riddell: thanks. [16:27] Riddell: quantal is still in staging so please upload it there [16:28] gotcha yofel [16:36] jmux: 4.11.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.1~ppa3 uploaded to kubuntu-ppa/backports for precise [16:39] and staging for quantal [16:58] hmm [16:58] seems like I can cook after all