[00:09] <Ademos> Kubuntu 13.04: After upgrading to KDE 4.11.1 (from the Kubuntu Backports PPA) k3b is unable to detect my second DVD burner. Before the update, k3b detected both of my DVD burners. [00:10] <Ademos> I tried changing some fstab settings to manually mount my DVD burners, but my changes had no effect.
[00:23] <Ademos> I'll try the Kubuntu forums instead. Bye for now.
[01:45] <rohan> can i change the backend used by KDE powerdevil? i believe it uses pm-utils by default .. problem with pm-utils is that it's unmaintained, and doesn't support kernel 3.6+ inbuilt hybrid-sleep 
[02:06] <TsarObomba> how can i control exactly what starts during a logon session
[02:06] <TsarObomba> rather than saving the session
[02:34] <valorie> TsarObomba: have you looked in the systemsettings?
[02:34] <TsarObomba> yes
[02:34] <valorie> system administration > startup and shutdown part
[02:34] <TsarObomba> but i want a specific set of apps
[02:35] <valorie> perhaps you want activities then?
[02:35] <TsarObomba> like kvirc, chromel, kde im contacts, ancd that is it
[02:35] <TsarObomba> how so?
[02:35] <TsarObomba> it says you can manually save a asession
[02:35] <valorie> sure
[02:36] <TsarObomba> excuse me a bit, im drunk and helping a legally bliunds guy with dyual monitors with  nviudia
[02:36] <valorie> but if you want a custom selection 'just sometimes' use an activity
[02:36] <valorie> heh
[02:36] <TsarObomba> not sometimes
[02:36] <TsarObomba> all the time
[02:40] <valorie> well then, just set it up in systemsettings, which is the simplest way
[02:41] <TsarObomba> valorie: sorry my znc gost needed a reboot
[02:41] <valorie> k, just said:
[02:41] <valorie> well then, just set it up in systemsettings, which is the simplest way
[02:41] <valorie> and tell it not to save sessions by default
[02:42] <valorie> then you can just save when you want to
[02:42] <TsarObomba> right
[02:43] <TsarObomba> but i dfo want A session containing certain apps
[02:43] <TsarObomba> and thefre seems to be a way
[02:53] <chapinj> i have a laptop with an ait/amd video card, I installed ubuntu just fine, but when I went to software-properties-gtk, it tells me there are no proprietary drivers available. goolging showed me that I could install fglrx manually, so i did -- but that says I dont have any adapters it supports, even though lspci recognizes the device. A little more poking around, and it appears that ati may have moved my card to a 'legacy' support mode -- 
[02:53] <chapinj> how do I install the legacy drivers?
[02:53] <valorie> chapinj: you should probably use jockey for that stuff
[02:53] <valorie> however - are you using Gnome, Unity, or Kubuntu?
[02:54] <valorie> you are in #kubuntu
[02:54] <chapinj> kde
[02:54] <chapinj> ubuntu/kde
[02:54] <chapinj> jockey -- command not found
[02:54] <valorie> so why were you looking in -gtk?
[02:54] <chapinj> because software-properties-kde segfaults and the workaround on the bug report was to use the -gtk one
[02:55] <valorie> huh
[02:55] <valorie> ok, the package is called jockey-kde
[02:55] <valorie> not sure if it's installed by default any more
[02:55] <chapinj> it was installe, but crashed immediate
[02:55] <chapinj> ly
[02:58] <valorie> hmmm
[02:59] <chapinj> jockey-text just says 'searchign for available drivers' then closes
[03:00] <chapinj> oh well
[03:01] <chapinj> back to fedora I go. I'll just use windows to run steam since ubuntu doesnt want to cooperate
[03:13] <TsarObomba> he has a way old ati card thats why
[03:13] <TsarObomba> like a Xporess2000m chipset IGPO
[06:54] <rohan> is there a keyboard shortcut for ksysguard? 
[06:54] <rohan> a global one 
[06:55] <valorie> control+escape
[06:56] <rohan> ah, thanks, valorie
[06:56] <rohan> although that doesn't have the system info tabs 
[06:58] <valorie> hmmm, they are labeled a bit differently
[06:58] <valorie> system monitor, and system activity
[06:59] <valorie> dunno what the diff is
[06:59] <lordievader> rohan: You can allways create it if you find it missing, System Settings -> Shortcuts and Gestures
[06:59] <rohan> lordievader: indeed, i was just making sure i didn't miss something 
[07:27] <Moscherkobold> hello everyone, I am thinking of buying an SSD. Is there something I should consider before, if I want to run Kubuntu on this drive?
[07:28] <hateball> Moscherkobold: Not really. May want to look into enabling TRIM on it asap tho
[07:29] <hateball> Moscherkobold: There are various opinions on putting swap on SSD, but if you have a lot of RAM then you shouldnt even need swap so...
[07:30] <Moscherkobold> hateball: thank you, but in general every SSD (manufacturer) will work
[07:30] <Moscherkobold> I have 8gb ram
[07:32] <hateball> Moscherkobold: As always, I suggest googling "SSD model + Linux" before just to make sure there's no weirdness going on
[07:32] <hateball> But in general you should be just fine
[07:32] <Moscherkobold> hateball: :) ok maybe a good idea
[09:46] <ikonia> window 14
[09:46] <ikonia> oops
[10:19] <izanagi> hello
[10:19] <izanagi> OpenGL GLX is not using direct rendering and desktop effects sre turn off
[10:19] <izanagi> how i can fix that?
[11:23] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:59] <soee_> test
[11:59] <monkeyjuice> soee_:  i c u
[11:59] <soee_> monkeyjuice: nice :)
[12:42] <iambellosani> hi everyall
[13:53] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[14:28] <sora_> hello :)
[14:28]  * genii makes more coffee
[14:33] <lordievader> Hey sora_ 
[14:35] <yossarianuk> I wish Kubuntu would break with Ubuntu's policy of keeping out of date/known broken buggy nvidia drivers instead of using the latest...
[14:35] <yossarianuk> would save me hassle of building my own..
[14:36] <genii> There's also always xorg-edgers ppa
[14:36] <yossarianuk> that repo has broken machines in the past...
[14:36] <yossarianuk> it upgrades xorg and others also
[14:36] <yossarianuk> (or has done in the past)
[14:37] <yossarianuk> I hope with the Ubuntu move to Mir that Kubuntu will alter this policy
[14:38] <yossarianuk> its silly shipping a driver with known (and fixed in later versions) issues in the name of 'stability'
[14:38] <lordievader> yossarianuk: Don't count on it.
[14:39] <ghostcube__> hi folks. kubuntu 13.04 crashing printer-applet cause its the python one. kde mentioned that there should be an c++ one instead of the python one
[14:39] <ghostcube__> how to change the problem
[14:41] <ghostcube__> just uninstall printer-applet? and what package is the new one?
[14:41] <yossarianuk> but if the whole move any from xorg to wayland happens thenm ubuntu + kubuntu will have differences anyway....
[14:43] <lordievader> It's going to be an interesting turn of events for sure ;)
[15:12] <Num83rGuy> I am having file corruption issues.  Another OS on the same physical drive shows no signs of this.  I often get "file protocol has died unexpectedly" type errors.  Drive scans show "super block in the future" often but, rarely anything more severe.  Kubuntu 13.04
[15:14] <Num83rGuy> Torrented files often fail hash check. client does not matter. Repeated checks within seconds of each other show different random parts fail each time with nothing else touching the file
[15:20] <petete> Num83rGuy: it could also be a ram problem
[15:21] <petete> just change the hd and ram, and see if the problem still persists
[15:21] <Num83rGuy> Hmmm. I will run a scan but, the other OS shows no signs of any problem.
[15:21] <Num83rGuy> Same drive same ram
[15:22] <Num83rGuy> And other drives when used by Kubuntu show corruption as well.
[15:24] <rberg> any errors or other loudness in dmesg output?
[15:25] <Num83rGuy> Sometimes I get an IRQ related error on my sound card but, that is verry rare.
[15:25] <Num83rGuy> *very
[15:27] <rberg> I have had those before, fixed by passing a option to the modules to force msix instead of acpi interrupts 
[15:53] <Jilduhn> yop?
[15:53] <Jilduhn> ya quelqu'un,
[15:53] <BluesKaj> Jilduhn, ?
[15:53] <Jilduhn> ?
[15:53] <BluesKaj> !fr
[15:54] <Jilduhn> how sry i'm french --'
[15:54] <Jilduhn> !fr
[16:10] <TsarObomba> ikonia: are you done? there wasnt much to read, a few lines.
[16:11] <TsarObomba> I mean, I am here, and in #ubuntu-kernel, where you are not. So its not a big rush, but the ban was unjustified in the first plkace as I wasn't berating you in any shape or form mate
[16:11] <ikonia> TsarObomba: this is not the channel for this - as you know
[16:11] <ikonia> so please, stop 
[16:11] <TsarObomba> ikonia: you told me to leave
[16:11] <TsarObomba> sorry
[16:11] <TsarObomba> But you told me to leave ops
[16:12] <ikonia> TsarObomba: yes, and that doesn't mean start up in another support channel
[16:12] <IdleOne> and he told you he would let you know when he was done
[18:04] <TsarObomba> Are there any guides offhand on theming kubuntu?
[18:05] <TsarObomba> Like ones that kubuntu sponsored guides, or official, or whatever
[18:05] <TsarObomba> Cause I was messing with a touchscreen and plasma active and plasma desktop, and it jacked my theme hardcore
[18:09] <genii> TsarObomba: Maybe check out http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/Theme
[18:09] <TsarObomba> genii: I was thinking more of just a howto on changing theme elements
[18:10] <TsarObomba> Not making themes. sorry
[18:10] <TsarObomba> Ive found a good guide. But nothing like a ubuntu/kubuntu wiki/help artiucle or anything
[18:10] <TsarObomba> Or even a kde article
[18:13] <genii> TsarObomba: The same principle they use at the kde techbase article probably still applies. eg: copy the theme which is closest, then edit it in System Settings...Workspace Appearance
[18:13] <TsarObomba> ok, thanks
[18:47] <goosie2020> Hello everyone
[18:48]  * genii slides goosie2020 a large Kubuntu mug of coffee
[18:50] <ilir_> kioslave sysinfo how install kubuntu 13.10 help me
[19:04] <genii> goosie2020: You might want to ask your Kubuntu questions in here first next time :)
[19:04] <genii> ( although it's good to see you got the appropriate help already in #ubuntu )
[19:04] <goosie2020> true lol
[19:04] <goosie2020> thats a good idea
[19:04] <goosie2020> sorry i went radio silent for a minute
[19:05] <goosie2020> im still trying to figure out how to get that little 4 black sqaure button on my taskbar
[19:05] <genii> Pager applet
[19:05] <goosie2020> im not extremely new to linux but i sure wouldnt say im a pro...but what I am new at is configuring the look of my desktop compared to what you can do in windows
[19:05] <goosie2020> how do i add it?
[19:06] <genii> goosie2020: On far right of bar you see what looks like a cashew...click there. Then choose Add Widgets... choose Pager
[19:07] <goosie2020> a cashew?
[19:08] <genii> goosie2020: That's generally what people tend to call it :) It's at far right of the bar, a semicircle with a squiggle in it.
[19:08] <genii> If you hover on it it says Panel Tool Box
[19:09] <goosie2020> it was already there but its not the 4 black squared icon instead its a 1 larger blue square 
[19:09] <goosie2020> that doesnt do anything
[19:09] <goosie2020> scratch that
[19:09] <goosie2020> it does do something
[19:09] <genii> goosie2020: Large blue square means you have only 1 virtual desktop currently
[19:09] <goosie2020> it shows the desktop/minimizing everything
[19:09] <genii> When you have more, it adds more squares to the pager indicating the other virtual desktops you also have
[19:10] <goosie2020> i do have four confifured
[19:10] <goosie2020> configured*
[19:12] <genii> goosie2020: What does it say in System Settings... Workspace Appearance and Behaviour...Workspace Behaviour... Virtual Desktops ? ( on the right pane)
[19:12] <genii> Work, afk 4-5 minutes
[19:12] <goosie2020> one sec
[19:14] <goosie2020> It has 2 sections
[19:14] <goosie2020> one says Layout
[19:14] <goosie2020> the one under it says Desktop Names
[19:14] <goosie2020> I have a total of 4 desktops setup right now
[19:14] <goosie2020> and thats all  thats listed there
[19:18] <goosie2020> Did you get that?
[19:19] <genii> goosie2020: Under the Layout section where it says Number of desktops   ... is where it should say. Apologies on lag, work is pulling me from my computer a lot right now
[19:20] <genii> Should also have the Different widgets for each desktop  checked off
[19:20] <goosie2020> I have that checked off
[19:20] <goosie2020> then i have the # of desktops set to 4
[19:20] <goosie2020> and the rows set to 2
[19:20] <goosie2020> and those are all the options i see
[19:22] <Greylocks_> ok goosie2020 close that and right click on your task bar
[19:23] <goosie2020> k
[19:23] <Greylocks_> highlight panel options
[19:23] <Greylocks_> click add widgets
[19:23] <goosie2020> ok
[19:23] <Greylocks_> see the search box to the right?
[19:24] <goosie2020> yes
[19:24] <Greylocks_> type "Pager" in there no quotes
[19:24] <goosie2020> ok
[19:24] <Greylocks_> then click and drag the pager widget onto your task bar
[19:24] <goosie2020> CRAP
[19:25] <Greylocks_> oops?
[19:25] <goosie2020> i accidently deleted my system tray
[19:25] <goosie2020> SOB
[19:25] <Greylocks_> you caan get it back no biggie
[19:25] <gorgonzola> hello folks! I'm trying to get my X session to include a custom ~/.xmodmap file on startup, but all the documentation on how to do this that I've found mentions KDM config giles, which we no longer use (eg, this: http://cweiske.de/howto/xmodmap/ar01s06.html ). How do I accomplish the same with LightDM? In other words, where is the Xsession file that gets loaded by LightDM?
[19:25] <goosie2020> @Greylocks pm?
[19:26] <goosie2020> i think i did it right that time
[19:26] <Greylocks_> I have to go for a few to meet the school bus but will be back goosie2020 ok?
[19:27] <goosie2020> ok hopefully i dont screw anything else up
[19:27] <goosie2020> ill go have a smoke
[19:28] <genii> gorgonzola: /etc/X11  ... or you can specify another solution with adding: xsessions-dir=/somewhere   in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[19:29] <gorgonzola> genii but that would be system wide, yes? I woul be happier if the xmodmap were loaded per user on login... but i might be missing the point (years since i last dealt with X conf!)
[19:30] <genii> gorgonzola: lightdm settings are system wide since it comes up before any users are logged in. If you want an xmodmap per user, put the xsession file in their home dir
[19:31] <gorgonzola> genii ok, i'll give that a try. thanks!
[19:48] <goosie2020> by the way does anyone know how i can get my system tray back? I deleted it somehow
[19:49] <genii> goosie2020: right-click on desktop... Add Panel
[19:49] <genii> Or is the panel there but one of the widgets got removed? ..sorry, not understanding perhaps
[19:50] <goosie2020> it created two taskbars now
[19:50] <goosie2020> one on top
[19:50] <goosie2020> and one on bottom
[19:50] <goosie2020> the one on top has the systray
[19:50] <goosie2020> but its the one on the bottom that i wanted it to go to 
[19:52] <genii> Ah, so it was the second scenario, just the System Tray widget got accidentally removed. So just right-click on open spot on unwanted panel, choose Panel Options...Remove this panel.   
[19:52] <goosie2020> i moved it down to the bottom tray now
[19:52] <goosie2020> but the clock font size is too big
[19:53] <genii> Can always adjust that after you re-add The System Tray and Pager widgets
[19:54] <genii> Meh, work needs me again :/
[19:54] <goosie2020> hold on
[19:54] <goosie2020> i think i may have fixed it
[19:56] <TsarObomba> Hi, my time is right (ive had time issues before) but the clock displays in 24hr mode. and i dont see a way to fix
[19:56] <TsarObomba> Where can i set it to 12hr mode?
[19:57] <TsarObomba> nvm
[19:57] <TsarObomba> i see it in country region and language settings module
[19:58] <TsarObomba> pH rather than HH
[19:58] <TsarObomba> PH*
[20:02] <genii> TsarObomba: System Settings...Common Appearance and Behaviour...Locale...Country/Region & Language in left pane... on right, choose tab called Date & Time... set time format to 
[20:02] <TsarObomba> ya i got it, read above
[20:02] <genii> PH:MM:SS AMPM     
[20:02] <TsarObomba> thx though
[20:02] <TsarObomba> look up :P
[20:02] <goosie2020> Wow this is really cool. Thanks for all of your help so far guys!
[20:02] <TsarObomba> genii: do you know if setting it to use time servers works in kubuntu?
[20:02] <genii> TsarObomba: read above for 12 hour setting :)
[20:02] <TsarObomba> goosie2020: no problem
[20:03] <TsarObomba> genii: right, i wrote the setting
[20:03] <TsarObomba> PH rather than HH
[20:03] <TsarObomba> I said that before you wrote all that, like 5min before :P
[20:03] <TsarObomba> goosie2020: we are all here to help eachother out
[20:03] <TsarObomba> Besides maybe genii, they seem to be an expert ::P
[20:04] <goosie2020> By the way, say you get your desktop exacty how you want it. You've spent alot of time on it and so on so you dont want to take the chance of losing the config settings. Is there a way to like backup the appearance settings, etc. somehow so if you reinstall the OS or a similar OS you can just restore your desktop and display config settings?
[20:05] <TsarObomba> backyup your home dir
[20:05] <TsarObomba> or just the .kde dir in your dir
[20:05] <TsarObomba> Myself, i use a nice backup tool
[20:05] <TsarObomba> that does whole system backups and faqst
[20:06] <goosie2020> whats the name of it and can you explain how and what it backs up?
[20:06] <TsarObomba> I use bacula
[20:06] <TsarObomba> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[20:06] <TsarObomba> goosie2020: chyeck that out
[20:06] <genii> TsarObomba: As you can see on http://imagebin.org/270726 how my time settings are, and if you notice my clock in bottom right, it shows correct 12 hour reading
[20:06] <TsarObomba> it has tons
[20:07] <TsarObomba> genii: im past it now biuddy, i had solved it way before you told me how. thanks though
[20:07] <TsarObomba> I am curious if just setting the internet time servers option in the clock settings will work
[20:07] <TsarObomba> I assume it would install ntp
[20:08] <TsarObomba> right click clock > date and time settings > set date and time automatically (internet/ntp time)
[20:09] <Darthfrog> goosie2020: Your config files (i.e. rc files) are in ~/.kde/share/config.  rc means "run control".
[20:10] <goosie2020> Oh ok, I'll take a look in just a sec and let you know
[20:10] <TsarObomba> genii: after setting it to use internet/ntp time, I hit apply once, then another time and gotr this: Unable to authenticate/execute the action: 6
[20:10] <TsarObomba> goosie2020: its never a bad idea to have incremental backups
[20:11] <TsarObomba> this is my favorite
[20:11] <goosie2020> What do you mean incremental?
[20:11] <goosie2020> like an automated software, etc>
[20:11] <goosie2020> ?
[20:11] <TsarObomba> it just back ups the things that changed
[20:11] <TsarObomba> not the whole thing
[20:11] <TsarObomba> so its "incremental"
[20:12] <TsarObomba> oit does a whole backup thew first time, thren afterwards it will just backup the files that changed
[20:12] <TsarObomba> rather than using a ton of time making a fullbackup again of files that are already backedup
[20:12] <TsarObomba> but http://www.rsnapshot.org/ is great
[20:12] <TsarObomba> its more like windows tool
[20:12] <TsarObomba> You can just roll back to another point
[20:12] <TsarObomba> As it does whole FS bit for bit snapshots
[20:13] <TsarObomba> So even if your filesystem fails, you would be safe
[20:13] <goosie2020> By the way, Im using a logitech k400r keyboard w/ integrated touchpad and im trying to get it to recognizre as a touchpad not a mouse
[20:13] <goosie2020> any ideas on this?
[20:13] <goosie2020> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2112342
[20:13] <TsarObomba> not really, sorry
[20:13] <goosie2020> heres something i found related to it 
[20:14] <TsarObomba> it might be a closed source touchpad
[20:14] <genii> TsarObomba: You probably need ntpdate installed beforehand
[20:14] <TsarObomba> genii: that was my guess, but i thought it used to install it for you
[20:15] <TsarObomba> goosie2020: i found that thread also
[20:15] <TsarObomba> did you try the stuff in it
[20:16] <TsarObomba> goosie2020: http://www.hidpoint.com/#page-introduction
[20:17] <genii> goosie2020: Might want to see if xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is installed ( it's for most touchpads, not just synaptics)
[20:17] <TsarObomba> genii: its a closed src touchpad
[20:17] <TsarObomba> connected to a keyboard
[20:17] <goosie2020> k let me try it
[20:17] <TsarObomba> its not synaptics
[20:17] <TsarObomba> and synaptics is installed by default if he installed with the keyboard plugged in
[20:18] <TsarObomba> why you would wanna use the TP instead of a mouse is beyond me though, but oh well :P
[20:18] <goosie2020> already installed
[20:18] <TsarObomba> goodtime_: `do what i said
[20:18] <TsarObomba> http://www.hidpoint.com/#page-introduction
[20:19] <TsarObomba> go there, download and install
[20:19] <TsarObomba> its like logitechs software for windows, but for linux
[20:19] <TsarObomba> it works wonders
[20:19] <TsarObomba> also under inpout devices, on the left, do you have a touchpad section?
[20:19] <TsarObomba> also, install ksynaptics
[20:19] <TsarObomba> its a great touchpad config tool
[20:20] <TsarObomba> i use it to diable my TP while typing
[20:21] <genii> TsarObomba: The synaptics driver isn't installed by default. And it works with with most touchpads, including a lot of Logitech even if they are on a bluetooth keyboard, etc. What it lets you do then is open the touchpad settings in system settings and do configuring which is specific to touchpads like multi-touch, etc.
[20:21] <goosie2020> where do i find the drivers? the equivilant of device manger in windows
[20:21] <TsarObomba> goosie2020: for the keyboard just choose not listed
[20:22] <TsarObomba> and for the operating system just choose the newest ubutnu listed
[20:22] <TsarObomba> genii: it was in his case
[20:22] <TsarObomba> genii: he already said it was
[20:22] <TsarObomba> goosie2020: i linked you to the app
[20:22] <goosie2020> oh my bad
[20:22] <TsarObomba> here i will even give you a direct link
[20:22] <goosie2020> i didnt know you could see what i was saying 
[20:22] <goosie2020> i thought i was pming with someone else
[20:23] <TsarObomba> you will get a file
[20:23] <TsarObomba> called hidpoint1-0.bin
[20:23] <TsarObomba> when its downloaded, open a terminal
[20:23] <TsarObomba> go to downloads, or wherever its downloaded to.
[20:24] <TsarObomba> run chmod a+x hidpoint1-0.bin
[20:24] <TsarObomba> then ./hidpoint1-0.bin
[20:24] <TsarObomba> and that will run the setup
[20:24] <TsarObomba> you may need to do the last part as sudo
[20:24] <TsarObomba> since unfortunately they dont give you a deb
[20:26] <goosie2020> Im trying to download it but i cant find a download link or instructions
[20:26] <goosie2020> the popup on the page is acting funny
[20:26] <goosie2020> i dont want the media server correct?
[20:29] <TsarObomba> goodtime_: just keep it in the channel
[20:30] <TsarObomba> I know you tried pming me but i have a pm caller id setup
[20:30] <TsarObomba> no
[20:30] <goosie2020> oh ok
[20:30] <TsarObomba> you want the one that says hidpoint
[20:30] <TsarObomba> click hidpoint
[20:30] <goosie2020> my nick should be goosie2020 not goodtime_ right?
[20:30] <TsarObomba> you will get a po[pup
[20:30] <TsarObomba> ya
[20:30] <TsarObomba> i tabbed wronhg
[20:30] <goosie2020> ya i got the popup
[20:30] <TsarObomba> thats my typo
[20:30] <FloodBotK1> TsarObomba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:30] <FloodBotK1> TsarObomba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:30] <TsarObomba> So whats the issue?
[20:31] <TsarObomba> Just fill in the boxes
[20:31] <goosie2020> its asking for OS
[20:31] <TsarObomba> and?
[20:31] <goosie2020> but kubuntu isnt in the list
[20:31] <TsarObomba> just choose the latest ubuntu
[20:31] <goosie2020> several versions ubuntu are 
[20:31] <goosie2020> ok
[20:31] <TsarObomba> kubuntu is ubuntu
[20:31] <TsarObomba> foir all intents and purposes generally
[20:31] <TsarObomba> when dealing with packages
[20:31] <goosie2020> i know i just didnt know what version 
[20:32] <TsarObomba> i said aboive just choose latest
[20:32] <TsarObomba> anyways
[20:32] <TsarObomba> if you have problems downloading, i can just put it on my gdrive and link it that way
[20:34] <goosie2020> k i got the file
[20:34] <TsarObomba> did you read my directions?
[20:34] <goosie2020> im about to try the install directions you gave me
[20:34] <TsarObomba> on how to use it
[20:34] <TsarObomba> ok
[20:34] <goosie2020> ill let you know how it goes in a min
[20:34] <TsarObomba> you will probably need to use sudo on the last step
[20:34] <TsarObomba> so, sudo ./filename
[20:34] <TsarObomba> if that doesnt work, install ksynaptics
[20:34] <TsarObomba> its in the repos
[20:35] <TsarObomba> if it recognizes your odd touchpad, it will let you even disable it while typing
[20:38] <goosie2020> i had a problem with the install
[20:38] <goosie2020> something about 64bit
[20:38] <goosie2020> here take a look
[20:38] <goosie2020> http://pastebin.com/nt0KzfY0
[20:39] <goosie2020> do you see it?
[20:39] <goosie2020> am i supposed to install some of those packages it mentions?
[20:45] <x05h> Anyone try disabling lightdm and booting straight into terminal mode, then using xinit to launch a graphical utility? I'm trying to launch the standalone flash player and it works, just the positioning of the player is offset by about 500 or so pixels :(
[20:46] <x05h> If I launch xclock instead of flashplayer the position is perfect.
[20:49] <goosie2020> To hell with this...I only wanted to do it so that I could click using the touchpad pressure instead of having to use the buttons (which gets on my nerves sometimes) but its not a big enough deal to continue screwing around with for hours
[20:49] <goosie2020> thanks for your help though with it
[20:49] <dmatt> goosie2020: i have idea
[20:49] <goosie2020> oh?
[20:50] <goosie2020> im all ears lol
[20:50] <dmatt> it sounds like you want to run 32 program on 64 bit system
[20:50] <goosie2020> thats what it sounded like to me as well but im not 100% sure that was the case
[20:50] <dmatt> in that case installing ia32-libs might help
[20:51] <goosie2020> ok hold on a sec
[20:51] <c_smith> so, if I purged Unity after installing the kubuntu-desktop metapackage, would the system then be considered a Kubuntu system?
[20:51] <dmatt> i have 12.04 so it might have changed to ia32-libs-multiarch
[20:52] <dmatt> for newer versions
[20:52] <c_smith> I basically purged all desktops save for kubuntu-desktop after installing kubuntu-desktop
[20:52] <goosie2020> k one sec
[20:54] <goosie2020> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:54] <goosie2020>  ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-multiarch but it is not installable
[20:54] <goosie2020> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[20:54] <goosie2020> thats what i got
[20:55] <goosie2020> im not sure but i think thats telling me i cant install ia32-libs-multiarch?
[20:56] <dmatt> what does apt-get check says?
[20:56] <goosie2020> for what package?
[20:56] <dmatt> yes, you have some problems in installed packages
[20:57] <dmatt> " apt-get check" without further parameters checks all packages
[20:57] <goosie2020> Reading package lists... Done
[20:57] <goosie2020> Building dependency tree       
[20:57] <goosie2020> Reading state information... Done
[20:57] <goosie2020> thats what it says
[20:57] <FloodBotK1> goosie2020: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:57] <dmatt> at least i always thought so
[20:58] <goosie2020> about what
[20:59] <dmatt> try: apt-get install --fix-broken
[21:00] <goosie2020> 0 upg 0 inst 0 remv 0 not upgraded
[21:01] <goosie2020> like i said its not that big of a deal 
[21:01] <goosie2020> im not going spend anymore time on it...at least not for now
[21:01] <goosie2020> thanks for your help though
[21:02] <TsarObomba> goosie2020: wait were you on 64bit or 32bit?
[21:02] <TsarObomba> because they had packages for both
[21:02] <goosie2020> im on 64
[21:02] <TsarObomba> did you choose 64?
[21:02] <goosie2020> yes
[21:02] <TsarObomba> hmm
[21:02] <TsarObomba> did you try ksynaptics?
[21:03] <TsarObomba> i dont think its gonna support "pressure" but it supports gestures and things
[21:03] <TsarObomba> and tap to click
[21:03] <TsarObomba> obviously
[21:04] <dmatt> goosie2020: check http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies for other options to sloving apt-get problem
[21:04] <dmatt> thasn install those ia32libs :)
[21:05] <TsarObomba> dmatt: its not a 32bit app
[21:05] <TsarObomba> its just outddated
[21:05] <TsarObomba> its for ubuntu 10.04
[21:07] <dmatt> TsarObomba: OK, but apt-get mess should be fixed otherwise she/he is going to hit another wall soon
[21:08] <goosie2020> g2g for now
[21:08] <goosie2020> i might try at this later
[21:11] <TsarObomba> dmatt: ofc
[21:11] <TsarObomba> lol
[21:12] <TsarObomba> not sure how he got into a mess in the first place, cause i didnt read that an i am busy but...
[21:12] <TsarObomba> either apt-get -f install
[21:12] <TsarObomba> and if thats fine, then he should be fine
[21:12] <TsarObomba> sounded like he was
[22:10] <TsarObomba> how can I made kde telep-athy, or rather kde im contacts, sit on my systray panel?
[22:11] <TsarObomba> instead of having it always in my open programs or not at all, and it will stay open and online, but nothing will hapopen til i get a msg
[22:11] <TsarObomba> brb, kernel reboot
[22:13] <rohan> any idea what kubuntu 13.10 is going to use as the powerdevil backend? pm-utils has been unmaintained for a while now.
[22:18] <TsarObomba> Dang, i somehow did something yesterday that borked my shutdown/restart etc options
[22:19] <TsarObomba> Under leave, it added a save session
[22:19] <TsarObomba> And im not sure if that is the problem or what. But I click restart and this big standby thing pops up
[22:19] <TsarObomba> I nstead of the normal restart thing where it counts down
[22:19] <TsarObomba> it says Lock, Sleep, Shutoff
[22:20] <TsarObomba> So i cant reboot with sudo reboot
[22:22] <TsarObomba> Any ideas on how to fix that
[22:25] <TsarObomba> hmm, i seemed to fix that in settings