[01:23] <mikeit_> hi
[06:40] <dholbach> good morning
[06:41] <rigved> good morning
[06:43] <rigved> The Ubuntu Global Jam is starting from tomorrow. Is there a list of things that can be done during the Jam, with regards to Ubuntu Touch Apps?
[07:57] <clawsOfBanana> is this the right place to ask "has the git v1.8 been released into the ubuntu ppas?"?
[08:01] <clawsOfBanana> has the git v1.8 been released into the ubuntu ppas? Anyone?
[08:05] <dholbach> clawsOfBanana, it's in saucy and raring
[08:05] <dholbach> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/git
[08:06] <dholbach> and if you go to the bottom of the page, you can find PPAs which have it for older releases
[08:06] <dholbach> but normally this is not quite the channel
[08:06] <dholbach> maybe more #ubuntu
[08:06] <dholbach> brb
[08:06] <Electron> ...
[08:07] <Electron> so ms-box
[08:08] <Electron> morning here
[08:10] <clawsOfBanana> dholbach, oh... I am still using 11.10 (cos I'm lazy)
[08:10] <Electron> am?
[08:10] <clawsOfBanana> also I had asked the same at #ubuntu and they said that this might be the place to ask the question... which is why I came here
[08:11] <Electron> google?
[08:11] <clawsOfBanana> good morning to you Electron ... although it is after noon here (IST)
[08:11] <Electron> :-)
[08:11] <Electron> i have little wall :-)
[08:12] <clawsOfBanana> a little wall?
[08:13] <Electron> computering...
[08:13] <Electron> so how i can make this :-)
[08:13] <clawsOfBanana> aah... i'm not so computer friendly... obviously not as much as you are
[08:13] <clawsOfBanana> :D
[08:14] <Electron> no launch all time?
[08:16] <Electron> clawsOfBanana :-)
[08:18] <Electron> i have time :-)
[08:24] <clawsOfBanana> every one has time but you just are better at management
[08:35] <JamesTait> Good morning all, happy Video Games Day! :-D
[08:36] <dholbach> JamesTait, and happy birthday
[08:37] <JamesTait> dholbach, that's a vicious rumour, but thank you anyway. ;)
[08:38] <dholbach> JamesTait, 21 again!
[08:39] <JamesTait> dholbach, again?
[08:39]  * JamesTait is confused.
[08:39] <dholbach> ;-)
[08:39] <JamesTait> Doesn't everyone count in base 18?
[08:39] <smartboyhw> dholbach, you made me remember of the movie:P
[08:44] <Electron> please clawsOfBanana don't claw
[08:46] <Electron> why?
[08:55] <Electron> bye :-)
[09:17] <Electron> :-)
[10:22] <smartboyhw> dholbach, dpm: Is http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/my-apps-packages/ obsolete?
[10:22] <smartboyhw> It's still linked from the footer
[10:23] <labsin> Can someone help me with a online accounts provider?
[10:23] <smartboyhw> Or, should the Click links be at top of the Debian-packaging ones?
[10:25] <dpm> smartboyhw, it's a good point, but we still need that page for the old software store, at least for a while until we phase it out.
[10:26] <smartboyhw> dpm, OK. It would be a good idea if you seperate the Debian packaging apart from Click, a new app developer would find it confusing.
[10:26]  * smartboyhw is weirdly finding bugs around developer.ubuntu.com these days-.-
[10:33] <mefrio> mzanetti, ping
[10:39] <dpm> mihir, WebbyIT, it seems we won't be having the design hangout this week, as christina and mehow will be away. If there is any input you need from design, please feel free to bring it up here or on the core apps mailing list. Thanks!
[10:39] <WebbyIT> dpm, ok, thanks
[10:42] <clepto> dpm, hi!
[10:46] <danielholm> hi all, is it possible to make a ComposerSheet to fill the parent?
[10:50] <clepto> danielholm, anchors doesn't work?
[10:50] <danielholm> anshors.fill parent?
[10:50] <danielholm> well, no.
[10:51] <danielholm> In this branch I'm trying to move settings to a sheet: https://code.launchpad.net/~danielholm/music-app/settings-sheet
[10:51] <danielholm> wont fill out
[10:51] <danielholm> MusicSettings.qml
[10:55] <clepto> danielholm, using width and height?
[10:55] <danielholm> clepto: no change
[10:56] <clepto> danielholm, what the difference between page and sheet?
[10:56] <danielholm> Well.. I'm supposed to use a sheet
[10:56] <dpm> hi clepto, we're looking at creating a script to help cross-build plugins
[10:56] <danielholm> but yeah..
[10:57] <clepto> dpm, nice to hear :D
[10:57] <danielholm> but I don't know really besides the automatic buttons to close and stuff. and that a sheet is meant to be floating or temporary, while a page is more static
[10:57] <clepto> danielholm, I think everyone is using pages instead of sheets because sheets need some more work
[11:01] <danielholm> clepto: alright
[11:01] <mefrio> hi guys is there anybody who can test my click package on a phone? I don't have an Ubuntu Phone unluckily...
[11:01] <mefrio> http://ubuntuone.com/2aemEAL3iyZeWeAPiME9JP
[11:01] <danielholm> then I suppose I'll wait for them to finish
[11:01] <danielholm> but thanks
[11:01] <popey> mefrio: sure thing!
[11:01] <danielholm> should I report it as a bug or just wait?
[11:02] <mefrio> popey, thank you :)
[11:02] <clepto> danielholm, I believe you should report it...
[11:02] <mefrio> popey, let me know if it works
[11:02] <danielholm> then I will! :D thanks
[11:02] <clepto> danielholm, np :)
[11:03] <popey> mefrio: fails to start here
[11:04] <popey> mefrio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6096558/
[11:04] <mefrio> popey, oh let me update it, I forgot to edit the .desktop sorry
[11:05] <mefrio> popey, it should work now http://ubuntuone.com/2aemEAL3iyZeWeAPiME9JP
[11:06]  * popey tries
[11:07] <popey> nope
[11:08] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6096570/
[11:09] <wellsb> All click apps are failing to start for me at the moment.  You sure that's not what you're seeing, popey?  I need to flash a fresh daily.  dist-upgrade keeps breaking stuff :)
[11:09] <wellsb> ssh broke, too
[11:10] <popey> it could well be that
[11:10] <mefrio> popey, the exec command should be fine now...maybe it's a bug as wellsb said
[11:12] <mefrio> wellsb, could you try my click as well and see if you get the same error as other apps?
[11:13] <mefrio> I have got to go now...see you later
[11:19] <dpm> clepto, here you go, the instructions on how to cross-build your extension :) -> http://pad.ubuntu.com/kYCIZSvOpF
[11:20] <dpm> I've tested it with your code and it built the extension for me
[11:21] <dpm> dholbach, the first tester for cross-building :) ^
[11:21] <danielholm> clepto: Bug now reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1224428
[11:21] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1224428 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "sheets cant be resized" [Undecided,New]
[11:22] <clepto> dpm, going to try it now
[11:23] <dpm> great, let us know how it gotes
[11:23] <dpm> *goes
[11:25] <clepto> dpm, what should I put on mailname?
[11:28] <dpm> clepto, can you be a bit more specific? Where are you being asked for mailname? Is this a setup screen you are getting after running the ./setup command?
[11:28] <dpm> in that case, I'd suggest just going with the defaults
[11:29] <clepto> dpm, it says "configuration for nullmailer"
[11:29] <dpm> yeah, just choose the default
[11:29] <clepto> ok
[11:32] <clepto> dpm, E: source:saucy-armhf: Chroot not found
[11:36] <dpm> clepto, could you try to log out and log back in? As part of the setup you're added to the sbuild group. I think that takes effect after a login
[11:36] <clepto> dpm, ok wait
[11:37] <clepto> dpm, back
[11:38] <dpm> clepto, ok, can you try to build again?
[11:38] <clepto> wait
[11:39] <clepto> dpm build-project: command not found
[11:40] <dholbach>  ./build-project <project-dir>     maybe?
[11:40]  * smartboyhw is trying to write a new app 
[11:40] <smartboyhw> But can I copy one file from Ubuntu RSS Reader?
[11:40] <dpm> clepto, as dholbach says, I forgot to put the ./ in the instructions, sorry
[11:41] <clepto> dpm, cp: cannot create directory ‘/var/lib/schroot/chroots/saucy-armhf/home/chris/’: No such file or directory
[11:41] <dholbach> clepto, at which step did this happen?
[11:42] <clepto> dholbach, in ./build-project <path>
[11:42] <dholbach> you might have to log out and log back in again
[11:42] <dholbach> (after ./setup)
[11:42] <dholbach> I just added it to the instructions
[11:42] <dpm> dholbach, he's already done it ^
[11:42] <dholbach> ah ok
[11:42] <clepto> dholbach, i did
[11:42] <dpm> I mean log out
[11:42] <dholbach> then, please run        sh -x ./build-project <project-dir>
[11:42] <dholbach> and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:43] <clepto> dholbach, dpm http://paste.ubuntu.com/6096660/
[11:44] <smartboyhw> dholbach, is there a RSS link to Planet Ubuntu?
[11:44] <dholbach> clepto, did you get any errors or warnings during the ./setup step? (towards the end)
[11:45] <clepto> dholbach, E: source:saucy-armhf: Chroot not found
[11:45] <dholbach> smartboyhw, check the top of the source of planet.ubuntu.com
[11:45] <dholbach> smartboyhw, http://planet.ubuntu.com/rss20.xml
[11:45] <smartboyhw> dholbach, thanks
[11:45] <dholbach> clepto, hum... anything else? can you pastebin what is still in your terminal's buffer?
[11:46] <dholbach> what's in /var/lib/schroot?
[11:46] <clepto> ls in schroot -> mount  session  union  unpack
[11:47] <clepto> dholbach, I closed the terminal with ./setup when I logged out
[11:47] <dpm> clepto, ah, was the setup command still running?
[11:47] <clepto> dpm,
[11:47] <clepto> no
[11:47] <clepto> it finished after the error
[11:47] <dholbach> what's in /etc/schroot/chroot.d/?
[11:48] <dpm> dholbach, he got an error, during the setup -> [13:32] <clepto> dpm, E: source:saucy-armhf: Chroot not found - perhaps re-running ./setup might help?
[11:48] <clepto> dholbach, returns nothing
[11:48] <dholbach> clepto, in that case, try running it again
[11:48] <clepto> wait
[11:48] <dholbach> I'm not quite sure where and why it failed
[11:48] <dholbach> but I'd hope there'd be some indication in the terminal
[11:53] <clepto> it seems the setup in working now... wait
[12:11] <timp> who is working on webbrowser_app?
[12:11] <timp> oSoMoN: ^?
[12:11] <oSoMoN> timp: me, indeed
[12:14] <timp> oSoMoN: have you seen the e-mails in ubuntu-phone about upcoming changes to the toolbar behavior?
[12:14] <timp> oSoMoN: I have one MR for that for which the autopilot tests fail in webbrowser_app https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/panel-opened-ro/+merge/184663
[12:15] <oSoMoN> timp: I have seen the e-mail, and I have submitted a MR to update the code in webbrowser-app
[12:15] <timp> oSoMoN: oh cool. That may already fix my issue :)
[12:15] <timp> oSoMoN: when do you expect the change to go in? can I review it?
[12:16] <oSoMoN> timp: please do! https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/new-panel-api/+merge/185222
[12:16] <oSoMoN> timp: the problem is that there are some autopilot tests failing which prevent CI to succeed, and I’m not sure what those failures are
[12:20] <timp> oSoMoN: I'll have a meeting soon, I'll check it afterwards
[12:21] <oSoMoN> timp: ok, thanks
[12:24] <clepto> dholbach, dpm, setup just finished
[12:26] <clepto> dpm, finished with compile but I cant find the *.so
[12:27] <dholbach> clepto, I'm glad it finished and worked
[12:27] <dholbach> clepto, do you have a branch of your code up somewhere?
[12:27] <clepto> dholbach, dpm I think I found it
[12:27] <dholbach> cool
[12:27] <clepto> dholbach, https://github.com/Clepto/cnotes-ubuntu-touch/tree/cnotes-ubuntu-one
[12:30] <clepto> dholbach, false alarm, it wasn't it
[12:31] <dholbach> clepto, strange, you're right - I can't find them there either - dpm, did you try clepto's branch?
[12:31] <clepto> dpm, when you build it, where did the .so moved?
[12:32] <dholbach> xnox, any idea why "schroot -p" might not preserve the directory?
[12:32] <dholbach> find /var/lib/schroot/chroots/saucy-armhf/ -name '*.so'     didn't seem to find the .so files that were built
[12:33] <dholbach> it worked for another project I tried it with
[12:33] <dpm> dholbach, clepto, I used the github branch (a git clone from yesterday). For me it built the .so file in the DirParser directory
[12:33] <xnox> dholbach: -p preserves environment, not directories. you might want to look at the currently active session to see where the files are.
[12:34] <xnox> dholbach: or exit the schroot, to make it store the changes permamently in the gold image under /var/lib/schroot/chroots/*/
[12:34] <dholbach> xnox, I ran it as the user, but we might want to just run it as root, I guess
[12:34] <xnox> dholbach: e.g. look at output of $ mount
[12:34] <dholbach> in that case they'd definitely get preserved
[12:35] <clepto> sooo, what now? :P
[12:35] <xnox> dholbach: so as a user, whilst the session is still active the .so would be under active /var/lib/schroot/mount/saucy-armhf-c29ff89f-f198-4de6-9bb7-f17e9dfddea5
[12:35] <xnox> dholbach: or some such =)
[12:35] <xnox> dholbach: run as root, exit, look up under gold-image location. That's more definitive.
[12:36] <dpm> $ ls -la /tmp/cnotes-ubuntu-touch/dirParserPlugin/DirParser/
[12:36] <dpm> total 60
[12:36] <dpm> drwxrwxr-x 2 dpm dpm  4096 set 11 16:12 .
[12:36] <dpm> drwxrwxr-x 4 dpm dpm  4096 set 12 13:06 ..
[12:36] <dpm> -rwxrwxr-x 1 dpm dpm 48623 set 12 13:07 libdirparserplugin.so
[12:36] <dholbach> I like definitive
[12:36] <dpm> -rw-rw-r-- 1 dpm dpm    40 set 11 16:11 qmldir
[12:36] <dpm> clepto, dholbach ^
[12:36] <dpm> that's where the .so was built for me
[12:36] <dholbach> dpm, I can reproduce what clepto said above
[12:36] <dholbach> let me play around with it a bit more
[12:36] <dholbach> if all fails I might go with xnox' last suggestion
[12:36] <clepto> dholbach, ok, do your magic :P
[12:37] <dholbach> clepto, in your branch of extension-build, please run bzr pull
[12:37] <dholbach> and try again
[12:37] <dholbach> it just worked for me
[12:37] <dholbach> thanks xnox
[12:37] <xnox> ;-0
[12:37] <dholbach> it's great to have people around who can do stuff like this:
[12:37] <dholbach> * xnox saves another day, brushes the dust of my cape, and flies away =)
[12:38] <dpm> hahaha
[12:38] <clepto> dholbach, do I have to setup again?
[12:38] <dholbach> clepto, no
[12:39] <clepto> dholbach, dpm, you're awesome, but xnox is THE man :P
[12:39] <clepto> worked :D
[12:39] <dholbach> yeehaw
[12:39] <dholbach> that's team work :)
[12:40] <clepto> next Q, do I have to move the .qmlproject file in the new directory for click package?
[12:40] <dpm> lol
[12:40] <dholbach> that's a dpm question
[12:40] <dpm> clepto, you don't need the .qmlproject for the click package
[12:41] <clepto> ok, I moved all the qml, .so, .js and images files
[12:41]  * dpm tries to answer questions now to reach xnox status, still nowhere near...
[12:41] <clepto> haha
[12:41] <dholbach> dpm, same here
[12:41] <dpm> :)
[12:42] <clepto> ok problem here
[12:42] <dholbach> dpm, do we have more testers lined up?
[12:42] <clepto> moved all the stuff and tried to run the app but i get  module "DirParser" is not installed
[12:42] <clepto> i have the .so in the same dir
[12:43] <dholbach> clepto, I tried with   cnotes-ubuntu-touch  qzxing  ubuntu-fitbit-app   now
[12:43] <dholbach> clepto, on the device?
[12:43] <dholbach> clepto, or on your PC?
[12:43] <clepto> dholbach, pc
[12:43] <dholbach> yeah, that won't work
[12:43] <clepto> I dont have a device
[12:43] <dpm> dholbach, for the script? Perhaps iBelieve can test it, but I'm not sure if Ubuntu Tasks uses a C++ extension
[12:43] <clepto> oh
[12:43] <dholbach> you just built the whole thing for ARM
[12:43] <dholbach> so it won't work on your PC
[12:43] <clepto> dpm, no, Ubuntu Tasks its pure js and qml
[12:43] <dholbach> dpm, do you have the black jack somewhere?
[12:44] <dholbach> dpm, I'd just try to sort out any other issues before documenting it
[12:44] <dpm> dholbach, I tried to find it yesterday, but I wasn't sure if it was the right project, let me re-check
[12:44] <dpm> (for blackjack, I mean)
[12:44] <dholbach> mhall119, do you have any other projects with qml extensions somewhere?
[12:44] <dpm> mzanetti might have more apps that use c++ extensions we can test
[12:44] <clepto> dholbach, so, no test for me :P
[12:45] <dholbach> bzoltan, just so you know, we put together http://pad.ubuntu.com/kYCIZSvOpF for the app showdown (building qml extensions locally)
[12:45] <dholbach> clepto, yeah, once you have the click ready, you can probably ask somebody to test it on a device
[12:46] <clepto> dpm, desktop file Q, exec should be ./CNotes.qml ?
[12:46] <dpm> dholbach, I can't find any c++ in the blackjack project: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~brad-4/ubuntu-blackjack/main/files
[12:46] <dholbach> clepto, it should probably work with what was in there by default
[12:46] <dholbach> dpm, nevermind then
[12:47] <clepto> dholbach, /usr/bin/qmlscene $@ /usr/share/CNotes/CNotes.qml ? ok leave it as it is
[12:47] <dholbach> clepto, I'm not sure about /usr/share
[12:47] <dholbach> but maybe dpm can take that one
[12:48] <dpm> clepto, qmlscene -I ./pathtoyourmodule $@ ./CNotes.qml
[12:48] <dpm> that's for the Exec line
[12:48] <clepto> ok
[12:49] <clepto> dpm, what about hooks?
[12:49] <dpm> clepto, you can paste the .desktop file somewhere and we can have a look at it if you want
[12:49] <clepto> dpm, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6096889/
[12:51] <dpm> clepto, looks good to me, you can drop the './' from the icon line if you want
[12:51] <clepto> dpm, done
[12:51] <clepto> dpm, should I put some specific name on hooks in manifest.json?
[12:52] <dpm> clepto, just use the same as http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/getting-started/creating-click-packages-with-cpp-extensions , replacing ubuntu-fitbit-app with cnotes
[12:53] <dpm> (and name, maintainer, etc)
[12:53] <dpm> clepto, you can open the .qmlproject in Qt Creator and start the packaging wizard. It will create the .json files for you, and then you can just grab them
[12:54] <clepto> dpm, what about framework? I'm using 13.04, does it matter?
[12:54] <clepto> dpm, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6096902/
[12:54] <dpm> clepto, framework should be "ubuntu-sdk-13.10", as we are targeting 13.10 phones
[12:54] <clepto> ok
[12:56] <dpm> clepto, looks good to me
[12:57] <clepto> dpm, do I need accounts for apparmor? ubuntu one sync
[12:57] <clepto> dpm, and is there a policy for creating files?
[12:57] <dpm> clepto, where are you creating them?
[12:57] <clepto> dpm, in my app's fir
[12:57] <clepto> dir*
[12:57] <dpm> I think you'll need accounts for that, yes
[12:58] <dpm> dholbach, do you know if an extra permission is needed to create files in the app's own directory?
[13:00] <clepto> dpm, are you in 13.10?
[13:00] <dpm> clepto, yes
[13:01] <clepto> dpm, could you give me the results http://paste.ubuntu.com/6096929/ ?
[13:01] <dpm> ah, yeah, sure, just a sec :)
[13:02] <dpm> clepto, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6096935
[13:05] <timp> oSoMoN: creating surface at (0, 58) with size (720, 1222) with title 'Window 1'file:///usr/share/webbrowser-app/Browser.qml:201: ReferenceError: open is not defined
[13:05] <clepto> ok got it!
[13:05] <timp> file:///usr/share/webbrowser-app/Browser.qml:228: TypeError: Object Panel_QMLTYPE_8(0x14a1e60) has no method 'open'
[13:06] <clepto> who is willing to test it??
[13:06] <timp> oSoMoN: perhaps jenkins has an old UITK version?
[13:06] <mefrio> wellsb, hey, have you tried my click package before?
[13:07] <timp> Mirv: ^ how do we make a new release that goes in the image? the latest release is from 3 september?
[13:08] <Mirv> timp: by getting it approved via asac/didrocks as releasing is in manual mode for unity8/mir landing
[13:08] <clepto> dholbach, will you do me the honor of testing? :D
[13:08] <clepto> dpm, dholbach xnox, thanks for your help!
[13:09] <Mirv> timp: or alternatively waiting until the manual mode is lifted, hopefully really soon now
[13:09] <timp> asac: how do I get a new UITK version approved to get new features in?
[13:10] <timp> Mirv: define really soon. I need to get some MRs in that are needed for apps to be changed so that I can get more new changes in that are needed end of next week for user tests
[13:11] <Mirv> timp: I don't have any estimation, but I believe if they can do it today they will do it today. there's a lot of things that's being blocked so the importance of returning normal operation is understood.
[13:11] <mefrio> mhall119, ping
[13:11] <timp> Mirv: okay. today would be sufficient ;p
[13:12] <wellsb> mefrio: I have it downloaded,  but I need to reflash my device with a new daily.  Click packages aren't working at all for me right now, and there's nothing being logged
[13:13] <mefrio> wellsb, ok thank you anyway
[13:13] <timp> oSoMoN: you could test the MR with the output.zip packages from this MR https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/panel-open-close/+merge/183892
[13:13] <timp> oSoMoN: but I guess jenkins won't approve until we have new UITKs released
[13:14] <boiko> timp: hey, just curious, did you figure out what was the problem with the toolbar in yesterday's image?
[13:14] <timp> boiko: nope
[13:14] <timp> boiko: but I heard from gusch that it was broken in yesterday's pending image, and (partially) working again in today's.
[13:15] <timp> boiko:  we didn't have a new UITK released since 3 september it seems
[13:15] <timp> boiko: did you try today's pending image?
[13:15] <boiko> timp: nope, not yet
[13:15] <boiko> timp: let me flash the device
[13:15] <timp> boiko: ok. it is a mystery to me what is happening, but maybe it works again
[13:16] <timp> boiko: could be some HUD issue that eats events before they go to the toolbar
[13:16] <dpm> clepto, you might want to upload the app in a public url for someone to test it, or it might be just as easy to submit it to the store, and then you'll get the public URL once you've uploaded the click package there
[13:17] <gusch> boiko timp here the brute force fix for my current gallery autopilot issues https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/wait-after-toolbar-open/+merge/185260
[13:18] <boiko> gusch: ouch! :)
[13:18] <timp> yes, ouch
[13:18] <gusch> boiko: plan B is to finally delete all gallery tests ...
[13:18] <timp> elopio: ^ any thoughts about that?
[13:19] <boiko> gusch: I'm just joking, if there is no better way, a sleep there it is
[13:19] <oSoMoN> ouch indeed
[13:20] <gusch> boiko: really deleteing the tests is no joke anymore ... :(
[13:22] <gusch> boiko oSoMoN I have no idea what steals the click on the toolbar button when not waiting after opening the toolbar - it works on the desktop - so my best guess is hud
[13:22] <mhall119> mefrio: pong
[13:22] <mefrio> mhall119, are you the developer of the ubuntu developer online portal?
[13:22] <mhall119> one of them, yes
[13:22] <oSoMoN> gusch: yeah, I’m seeing lots of similar issues in the webbrowser-app ap tests, I was also guessing hud, by lack of a better hypothesis
[13:23] <mefrio> mhall119, I have found a but...I started to upload my click package and I entered my package name but then I had to quit. Now, if I try to upload my click again, using the same name I used before, the website says "You already have a Click Package with this package name" even if it is not really published and I cannot delete it
[13:24] <mhall119> mefrio: ah, the app submission stuff is actually a separate project from the rest of the developer portal, beuno is the one to talk to about that
[13:24] <mefrio> mhall119, ok thanks
[13:24] <mhall119> mefrio: IIRC, you need to go into your existing project's page and upload a new version
[13:24] <mhall119> instead of going through the new app process all over again
[13:25] <mefrio> mhall119, I can't see it in there
[13:26] <mefrio> beuno, I have found a bug in the click package uploading process...I started to upload my click package and I entered my package name but then I had to quit. Now, if I try to upload my click again, using the same name I used before, the website says "You already have a Click Package with this package name" even if it is not really published and I cannot delete it
[13:27] <wellsb> mefrio: You don't see it at https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/ ?
[13:28] <mefrio> wellsb, yes thanks! The website pointed me here: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/
[13:28] <mefrio> beuno, no problems so :)
[13:28] <boiko> timp: it seems to be working in today's pending image indeed
[13:29] <beuno> cool
[13:37] <clepto> do we have any designer here?
[13:43] <dholbach> dpm, what do you think about merging all the content for "getting your app ready" on one page? (ie: build extension, rebuild click, test on device, upload to store)
[13:43] <dholbach> dpm, once everything's automated we could just replace it with a redirect
[13:45] <wellsb> clepto: Try #ubuntu-design
[13:45] <dpm> dholbach, which "getting your app ready" content do you mean?
[13:45] <dholbach> dpm, sorry - "getting your app ready for the showdown submission"?
[13:49] <AskUbuntu> We want to integrate Ubuntu on our Mediatek MT6589 1.5 Ghz Turbo smartphone | http://askubuntu.com/q/344674
[13:50] <dpm> dholbach, sorry, I've got lots of content in my head with d.u.c., staging, appshowdown pages. Sorry if I'm being thick, but I still don't quite follow. Are you talking of merging existing content, or creating new one and putting it into one single page...?
[13:51] <dholbach> dpm, the latter
[14:00] <dpm> dholbach, sounds good to me :)
[14:00] <dholbach> dpm, awesome
[14:04] <mefrio> in there anybody with an Ubuntu Phone who can test my click package? http://ubuntuone.com/2aemEAL3iyZeWeAPiME9JP
[14:12] <dholbach> dpm, do we have an article for how to test it on the device?
[14:12] <dholbach> or mhall119 too
[14:13] <beuno> xnox, btw, most of your new versions lack the actual upload
[14:13] <mhall119> dholbach: test click packages?
[14:13] <dpm> dholbach, we don't. We can probably use what we've got on the Reviews internal wiki re: the instructions on how to install and test
[14:13] <mhall119> or test apps in general
[14:13] <dholbach> yep
[14:13] <dholbach> gotcha
[14:13] <dholbach> mhall119, on the device
[14:13] <dholbach> yeah, click packages
[14:13] <dholbach> sorry
[14:14] <mhall119> adb push, adb shell, pkcon install-local...
[14:14] <dholbach> in http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/getting-started/creating-click-packages-with-cpp-extensions/ we should probably also use "pkcon install-local"
[14:22] <dholbach> mhall119, can I change it?
[14:23] <mhall119> dholbach: sure, but we need to change iton the staging site too or it'll regress
[14:23]  * dholbach nods
[14:26] <asac> 10:25 < asac> timp: hi
[14:26] <asac> 10:25 < asac> timp: i asked zoltan to get me a confirm that all autopilots still work with the toolkit
[14:26] <asac> 10:25 < asac> didnt get  aclear yes or no
[14:26] <asac> he had some problems reproducing things
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[14:42] <xnox> beuno: strange, I did upload and it did redirect me. A bug in the store?
[14:42] <xnox> beuno: all of them, or just some?
[14:43] <beuno> xnox, all except one I think
[14:43] <beuno> xnox, when did you upload?
[14:43] <xnox> beuno: all at around the same time, in the appid order.
[14:44] <xnox> beuno: can you please leave a feedback comment on the broken one?
[14:44] <xnox> beuno: where can I file bugs about the click-apps/myapps website?
[14:44] <xnox> or like comments from developer perspective.
[14:45] <beuno> xnox, https://bugs.launchpad.net/software-center-agent/+filebug
[14:47] <xnox> beuno: so on tumblr, facebook, G+, ubuntuone - I have "Version number: 2 (upload)" where _upload_ is underlined and is a clickable link. Are those the ones that failed upload?
[14:48] <beuno> xnox, indeed
[14:55] <xnox> beuno: all should be good now.
[14:56] <beuno> xnox, ack, I'll take a look after this call, unless someone else beats me to it
[14:56] <xnox> beuno: cool, thanks =)
[15:06] <mefrio> beuno, I can't upload my click to the uploader :S could you help please?
[15:07] <beuno> mefrio, sure, what's up?
[15:08] <mefrio> beuno, when I upload the click file and hit on "Save changes" button nothing happens and the package is not uploaded
[15:08] <beuno> mefrio, how big is the file?
[15:08] <mefrio> beuno, 90.7 Kb
[15:08] <beuno> we have issues with the uploader's feedback, which we're working on
[15:08] <beuno> have you changed the version number?
[15:09] <mefrio> beuno, I am trying to upload a 0.9 version but in the .desktop file it is at 1.0...should they match?
[15:09] <mefrio> manifest.json has 1.0 too
[15:10] <beuno> mefrio, they should match, of course
[15:10] <beuno> and once you upload a version, you can't upload the same version again
[15:12] <mefrio> beuno, I have done that but it is still the same
[15:12] <mefrio> can't upload
[15:12] <mefrio> it says "0 seconds remaining" but nothing, the app is still in the draft state and it seems the package is not really uplaoded
[15:13] <beuno> matiasb, james_w, ^
[15:13]  * beuno is otp
[15:13] <mefrio> hi mzanetti do you have 5 free minutes? :)
[15:15] <mzanetti> mefrio: what's the issue?
[15:16] <mefrio> mzanetti, I am finally able to package my app using your great tutorial but I would like to include also .mo translation files....is it possible?
[15:16] <matiasb> mefrio: what's your app id?
[15:16] <mzanetti> mefrio: sure. just copy them to the directory before doing the click install
[15:16] <mefrio> matiasb, memories
[15:17] <mefrio> mzanetti, on the pc I they are installed in the gettext folder...so putting them in a po/ dir before creating the click should work?
[15:18] <james_w> mefrio: it looks like it is still trying to upload a 0.9 version
[15:18] <james_w> and one of those already exists
[15:19] <mzanetti> mefrio: I don't know what the gettext folder is... but yeah. just package them up somewhere in the package and make your QTranslator load it from there
[15:19] <james_w> what did you do to change it to 1.0 on the website?
[15:20] <mefrio> mzanetti, ok thanks
[15:20] <mefrio> james_w, I tried to upload a 1.0 package before but it didn't work. Maybe it generated conflicts?
[15:21] <james_w> mefrio: are you com.ubuntu.developer.vtuson ?
[15:21] <mefrio> james_w, no I am com.ubuntu.developer.mefrio
[15:24] <james_w> ok, I'll look again, sorry
[15:25] <james_w> mefrio: I only see failed uploads for 0.9
[15:25] <james_w> mefrio: what did you do to upload 1.0, and what happened?
[15:26] <mefrio> james_w, I just pushed a com.ubuntu.developer.mefrio.memories_1.0.click file but if it did not upload it's better :) I want to publish that 0.9 version as a beta for the 1.0 I will release Saturday
[15:27] <james_w> mefrio: did you get the version number to 1.0 on the website?
[15:27] <mefrio> james_w, no it was a bit messed. On the website it was 0.9 but the click was 1.0
[15:28] <james_w> mefrio: ok
[15:28] <james_w> so 0.9 is uploaded
[15:28] <james_w> but the website doesn't know
[15:29] <mefrio> james_w, what have I to do?
[15:31] <james_w> mefrio: what is the url of the page that you are using to upload?
[15:33] <mefrio> james_w, https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/60/
[15:33] <james_w> mefrio: ok
[15:34] <james_w> mefrio: I think you'll have to change the version on the website to 0.91 and upload again
[15:34] <mefrio> james_w, ok let me try
[15:35] <mefrio> james_w, it worked but it's still in Draft stateù
[15:35] <mefrio> *state
[15:36] <james_w> mefrio: that's fine right?
[15:36] <james_w> mefrio: you don't want to release until saturday?
[15:36] <mefrio> james_w, no I want to release it now it is possible so that people will be able to test and to report some other bugs
[15:36] <mefrio> james_w, I will upload version 1.0 on Saturday
[15:37] <james_w> mefrio: then you'll have to upload it as 1.0 and seek a review
[15:37] <mefrio> james_w, do you mean I have to upload that 0.91 version again as a 1.0 version?
[15:38] <james_w> mefrio: yeah, so it matches the version in the manifest
[15:38] <mefrio> james_w, the manifest now has 0.91
[15:38] <mefrio> I updated it
[15:38] <james_w> ah, ok
[15:38] <james_w> so you're fine
[15:38] <james_w> you just need someone to review
[15:38] <matiasb> mefrio: right; also, once you uploaded your app and filled the required metadata, you should submit the app for review; if you don't check the auto-publish option, after it is reviewed and approved, you will have the option to publish when you want
[15:38] <beuno> well, it's not set to review pending yet
[15:39] <beuno> so not in my queue yet
[15:39] <mefrio> james_w, ok thanks. Who is a reviewer and how long do they take it to review?
[15:39] <mefrio> I need it to be reviewed at least before Saturday because I will upload the 1.0 version for the showdown contest
[15:39] <james_w> ah, good point
[15:39] <mefrio> beuno, how to set a review pending?
[15:40] <beuno> mefrio, at the right, you should be able to change its status
[15:41] <mefrio> beuno, I am not able to do that :(
[15:41] <matiasb> beuno, mefrio: the submit for review button should be at the bottom of your app details page
[15:41] <mefrio> matiasb, thank you! It did! :)
[15:41] <mefrio> beuno, now it's on your TODO list so? :P
[15:42] <beuno> mefrio, it is indeed
[15:42] <elopio> timp, gusch: I would say that you are turning off the animating flag to False too early.
[15:42] <elopio> or, we are missing a flag that can tell us when the toolbar is ready.
[15:43] <gusch> elopio timp it seem it's a unity8 bug (currently fixed?) - oSoMoN told me
[15:43] <mefrio> beuno, I am not in a hurry but how long will it take to review it?
[15:44] <elopio> gusch, so the test found a real bug? That makes me really happy :)
[15:44] <gusch> elopio: yes - well unfortunately it was catched before it got integrated - but yes
[15:45] <elopio> gusch, yes, and this test shouldn't have catch it. We are missing a test in unity8, I suppose.
[15:45] <elopio> I hope the fix comes with that test.
[15:45] <beuno> mefrio, I should be able to get it in an hour or two
[15:45] <mefrio> beuno, very fast :D thank you
[15:47] <mefrio> I quitting....thank you for the support guys!  :)
[15:55] <timp> elopio:     readonly property bool animating: draggingArea.pressed || transitionToAll.running
[15:55] <timp>                                                            || transitionToHint.running
[15:55] <timp>                                                            || transitionToSpread.running
[15:56] <timp> elopio: I might have a similar issue with webbrowser_app and a recent MR where the autopilot tests don't see that the toolbar finishes to open/close
[15:57] <elopio> timp, if you have an exception trace and a video I can check, I'll help with the diagnose.
[15:57] <timp> elopio: see this MR https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/panel-opened-ro/+merge/184663
[15:57] <elopio> timp, looking.
[15:58] <timp> elopio: there is a link to a log on my local device
[15:58] <timp> hmm.. I see that jenkins failed now, before it passed.
[15:58] <timp> it failed after I changed a typo in the CHANGES file, so no source changes :s
[15:59] <timp> wow it failed on weird stuff
[16:00] <timp> elopio: pushing empty commit to re-trigger jenkins
[16:01] <elopio> timp, I've never seen the webbrowser app. What's the name of the branch in launchpad?
[16:01] <timp> elopio: lp:webbrowser-app :)
[16:02] <timp> elopio: I have to leave in a few minutes
[16:03] <elopio> oh, it was my typo.
[16:04] <timp> elopio: so what I did was install today's stable image (cdimage-touch), install the UITK deb's from https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/panel-opened-ro/+merge/184663 (output.zip), install autopilot packages, autopilot run webbrowser_app
[16:04] <elopio> timp, so, how can I help while you are away? I'll try to reproduce the webbrowser failure. If you also have the video when it failed for you things will be easier.
[16:04] <timp> (ond evice)
[16:04] <timp> elopio: probably I will be back in 2.5h
[16:04] <timp> sorry I don't have the video
[16:04] <elopio> timp, ok, I'll be here too. I'll see if I can find something and we'll talk later.
[16:04] <timp> elopio: ok, let's talk about it later when I am back.
[16:05] <timp> elopio: great, thanks
[16:37] <WebbyIT> Where do I find which value of 'name' a Icon can  have?
[16:57]  * xnox is getting 504 Gateway Time-out on the app store.
[17:00] <beuno> yeah
[17:00] <beuno> we're in the middle of an upgrade
[17:00] <beuno> that didn't go as smoothly as planned
[19:03] <timp> elopio: I'm back
[19:08] <timp> elopio: did you find anything in the webbrowser tests?
[19:11] <clepto> dh
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