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cjwatsonxnox: (sorting jbicha's comment now)00:07
cjwatson(though slightly differently)00:13
twbhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso00:36
twb...has 404'd for me for a couple of days.  Is it coming back, or is it gone because 10.04 is EOLd on the desktop?00:36
twbOh wait, brain fart -- that's 8.04.  I'll just remove it from my cron job.00:36
cjwatsonhardy is EOL everywhere.00:36
cjwatsonIt just took us a while to remove it from archive after the EOL.00:36
twbNo worries.00:37
xnoxcjwatson: by denewing ubiquity-ubuntuone package? oh and adding as depends, bah, thanks =)08:17
cjwatsonI didn't denew it, but yeah, test dependency09:11
ylegerHi10:03
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xnoxhello!10:07
YaannI have a small problem with a preseeded netinstall on armhf10:08
YaannIt fails while trying to install libglib2.0-0_2.36.0-1ubuntu2_armhf.deb with a "requires the xzcat command, which is not available"10:09
xnoxYaann: that's weird, as dpkg is task:minimal and it can / knows how to unpack xz compressed debs. What release are you on and / or which netinstall images are you using?10:11
cjwatsonxnox: this is an error from debootstrap10:12
cjwatsonpackages in the debootstrapped set must not use xz10:12
cjwatsonand that version is from raring10:12
xnoxcjwatson: debootstrap still did not gain xz dependency? _sad_ i remember the discussions from more than a year ago....10:13
cjwatsonxnox: It's fundamentally difficult since debootstrap is meant to work minimally on other distributions!10:13
cjwatsonThough, that said, busybox had unxz turned on in quantal10:13
cjwatsonSo this ought to work ...10:13
cjwatsonWhich goes back to which network install images are you using?10:14
xnoxarch, fedora - switched to xz.10:14
cjwatson*shrug* you might get lucky10:14
Yaannxnox: cjwatson I'm using the precise netboot image10:14
YaannThe one found here http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise-updates/main/installer-armhf/current/images/armadaxp/netboot/uInitrd10:15
cjwatsonYaann: It isn't in general possible to use the precise netboot image to install later releases of Ubuntu10:15
cjwatsonYaann: You need to use the raring netboot image to install raring10:15
cjwatsonYaann: This is one of the more obscure possible failure modes :-)10:15
Yaannactually i'm trying to install precise with the precise netboot image10:16
cjwatsonBut libglib2.0-0_2.36.0-1ubuntu2_armhf.deb is a package from raring10:16
Yaannok let me check10:16
cjwatsonlibglib2.0-0 | 2.32.1-0ubuntu2 |       precise | amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc10:16
cjwatsonlibglib2.0-0 | 2.32.3-0ubuntu1 | precise-updates | amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc10:16
YaannI may have made something stupid10:16
cjwatsonlibglib2.0-0 | 2.32.4-0ubuntu1 | precise-proposed | amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc10:16
cjwatsonlibglib2.0-0 | 2.36.0-1ubuntu2 |        raring | amd64, armhf, i386, powerpc10:16
Yaanncjwatson: there is not netboot install image for raring on armadaxp, at least I did not found any10:17
cjwatsonNo, that's right, because the armadaxp kernel is no longer supported from raring10:18
cjwatsondebian-installer (20101020ubuntu222) raring; urgency=low10:18
cjwatson  * Stop building images for armadaxp, which use a no-longer-maintained 3.510:18
cjwatson    kernel.10:18
cjwatson -- Steve Langasek <steve.langasek@ubuntu.com>  Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:34:39 -070010:18
cjwatsonSo you're stuck on precise (or quantal, but that's supported for less long)10:18
cjwatsonYou could in theory install precise and upgrade just the userspace later, but not sure how long that'll keep working10:19
Yaanncjwatson: So the support of armadaxp is supposed to be discontinued ?10:22
cjwatsonI believe so, I'm afraid10:23
Yaanncjwatson: xnox : You were right, it's just a misconfiguring of my debconf file which pointed to raring instead of precise10:26
Yaannmisconfiguration *10:26
cjwatsonOK, great10:26
cjwatsonYaann: FWIW you can probably just delete whatever that line is - the installer doesn't normally need to be told which release to install10:26
Yaanncjwatson: Ok, nice, thanks a lot, I could have lost an other couple of hours10:28
Yaanncjwatson: Are they any difference between the build of the initramfs on different armhf processors ?10:30
cjwatsonYes, not least that the initramfs contains modules from different kernels10:31
cjwatsonVery few if any differences outside that though10:31
Yaannso actually if I use a custom kernel with the needed modules, I should be able to use any initramfs10:32
Yaannfrom the armhf architecture10:33
cjwatsonNo, you'd have to build your own initramfs10:36
cjwatsonAgainst your custom kernel10:36
cjwatsonYou'd do that by plugging it into the build system in the debian-installer source package from the appropriate release10:37
YaannYes but if the modules are compiled in the kernel I do not need to recompile the initramfs, right ?10:38
cjwatsonEh.  Maybe.  I think that might result in some confusion and I don't recommend it10:39
cjwatsonThere are places where d-i will try to install more modules for itself and if you've tried to work around it that way then it will almost certainly fail.10:39
Yaanncjwatson: Ok, I'm may take a look it, thanks a lot again !10:40
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