[00:07] <cjwatson> xnox: (sorting jbicha's comment now)
[00:13] <cjwatson> (though slightly differently)
[00:36] <twb> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[00:36] <twb> ...has 404'd for me for a couple of days.  Is it coming back, or is it gone because 10.04 is EOLd on the desktop?
[00:36] <twb> Oh wait, brain fart -- that's 8.04.  I'll just remove it from my cron job.
[00:36] <cjwatson> hardy is EOL everywhere.
[00:36] <cjwatson> It just took us a while to remove it from archive after the EOL.
[00:37] <twb> No worries.
[08:17] <xnox> cjwatson: by denewing ubiquity-ubuntuone package? oh and adding as depends, bah, thanks =)
[09:11] <cjwatson> I didn't denew it, but yeah, test dependency
[10:03] <yleger> Hi
[10:07] <xnox> hello!
[10:08] <Yaann> I have a small problem with a preseeded netinstall on armhf
[10:09] <Yaann> It fails while trying to install libglib2.0-0_2.36.0-1ubuntu2_armhf.deb with a "requires the xzcat command, which is not available"
[10:11] <xnox> Yaann: that's weird, as dpkg is task:minimal and it can / knows how to unpack xz compressed debs. What release are you on and / or which netinstall images are you using?
[10:12] <cjwatson> xnox: this is an error from debootstrap
[10:12] <cjwatson> packages in the debootstrapped set must not use xz
[10:12] <cjwatson> and that version is from raring
[10:13] <xnox> cjwatson: debootstrap still did not gain xz dependency? _sad_ i remember the discussions from more than a year ago....
[10:13] <cjwatson> xnox: It's fundamentally difficult since debootstrap is meant to work minimally on other distributions!
[10:13] <cjwatson> Though, that said, busybox had unxz turned on in quantal
[10:13] <cjwatson> So this ought to work ...
[10:14] <cjwatson> Which goes back to which network install images are you using?
[10:14] <xnox> arch, fedora - switched to xz.
[10:14] <cjwatson> *shrug* you might get lucky
[10:14] <Yaann> xnox: cjwatson I'm using the precise netboot image
[10:15] <Yaann> The one found here http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise-updates/main/installer-armhf/current/images/armadaxp/netboot/uInitrd
[10:15] <cjwatson> Yaann: It isn't in general possible to use the precise netboot image to install later releases of Ubuntu
[10:15] <cjwatson> Yaann: You need to use the raring netboot image to install raring
[10:15] <cjwatson> Yaann: This is one of the more obscure possible failure modes :-)
[10:16] <Yaann> actually i'm trying to install precise with the precise netboot image
[10:16] <cjwatson> But libglib2.0-0_2.36.0-1ubuntu2_armhf.deb is a package from raring
[10:16] <Yaann> ok let me check
[10:16] <cjwatson> libglib2.0-0 | 2.32.1-0ubuntu2 |       precise | amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc
[10:16] <cjwatson> libglib2.0-0 | 2.32.3-0ubuntu1 | precise-updates | amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc
[10:16] <Yaann> I may have made something stupid
[10:16] <cjwatson> libglib2.0-0 | 2.32.4-0ubuntu1 | precise-proposed | amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc
[10:16] <cjwatson> libglib2.0-0 | 2.36.0-1ubuntu2 |        raring | amd64, armhf, i386, powerpc
[10:17] <Yaann> cjwatson: there is not netboot install image for raring on armadaxp, at least I did not found any
[10:18] <cjwatson> No, that's right, because the armadaxp kernel is no longer supported from raring
[10:18] <cjwatson> debian-installer (20101020ubuntu222) raring; urgency=low
[10:18] <cjwatson>   * Stop building images for armadaxp, which use a no-longer-maintained 3.5
[10:18] <cjwatson>     kernel.
[10:18] <cjwatson>  -- Steve Langasek <steve.langasek@ubuntu.com>  Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:34:39 -0700
[10:18] <cjwatson> So you're stuck on precise (or quantal, but that's supported for less long)
[10:19] <cjwatson> You could in theory install precise and upgrade just the userspace later, but not sure how long that'll keep working
[10:22] <Yaann> cjwatson: So the support of armadaxp is supposed to be discontinued ?
[10:23] <cjwatson> I believe so, I'm afraid
[10:26] <Yaann> cjwatson: xnox : You were right, it's just a misconfiguring of my debconf file which pointed to raring instead of precise
[10:26] <Yaann> misconfiguration *
[10:26] <cjwatson> OK, great
[10:26] <cjwatson> Yaann: FWIW you can probably just delete whatever that line is - the installer doesn't normally need to be told which release to install
[10:28] <Yaann> cjwatson: Ok, nice, thanks a lot, I could have lost an other couple of hours
[10:30] <Yaann> cjwatson: Are they any difference between the build of the initramfs on different armhf processors ?
[10:31] <cjwatson> Yes, not least that the initramfs contains modules from different kernels
[10:31] <cjwatson> Very few if any differences outside that though
[10:32] <Yaann> so actually if I use a custom kernel with the needed modules, I should be able to use any initramfs
[10:33] <Yaann> from the armhf architecture
[10:36] <cjwatson> No, you'd have to build your own initramfs
[10:36] <cjwatson> Against your custom kernel
[10:37] <cjwatson> You'd do that by plugging it into the build system in the debian-installer source package from the appropriate release
[10:38] <Yaann> Yes but if the modules are compiled in the kernel I do not need to recompile the initramfs, right ?
[10:39] <cjwatson> Eh.  Maybe.  I think that might result in some confusion and I don't recommend it
[10:39] <cjwatson> There are places where d-i will try to install more modules for itself and if you've tried to work around it that way then it will almost certainly fail.
[10:40] <Yaann> cjwatson: Ok, I'm may take a look it, thanks a lot again !