[05:25] <DanChapman> Good Morning all
[07:05] <DanChapman> Noskcaj: Hello! Just a quick update for you testdrive is coming along now, I have nearly finished the preferences dialog, just got to set up refreshing the UI when saving prefs. Then I will sort the main window. Its currently here lp:~dpniel/+junk/porting_testdrive if you want to take a look.
[07:05] <elfy> morning DanChapman
[07:06] <DanChapman> elfy Morning :-)
[08:28] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Software_blacklist#testdrive
[08:30] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, :)
[08:31] <Noskcaj> DanChapman, Great work. Please make it testdrive/ rather than +junk/ though.
[08:31] <Noskcaj> If it's finished this week we might get it into saucy
[08:34] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, can we tell Canonical to de-Canonicalize the project? I know it sounds ridiculous, but active maintenance is mainly done by you now.
[08:34] <smartboyhw> (And BTW, you are applying for MOTU that early?)
[08:34] <smartboyhw> project = Testdrive
[08:35] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, Canonical: I'd like to, but i need someone more competent with python to help. MOTU: I took micah's advice and will wait till next cycle
[08:36] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, you got DanChapman now-.-
[08:36] <smartboyhw> (who seriously is an awesome Python developer)
[08:36] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, If he's willing to stay with it, i'd quite willingly move way from canonicl
[08:37] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, have you got Testdrive into Debian?
[08:38] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, I talked to some debian guys, said it would have to support the debian archive
[08:38] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, of course it would have to-.-
[08:38] <Noskcaj> And that requires a complete re-write of the code
[08:38] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, we will have to develop it so we can test both Debian and Ubuntu images
[08:38] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, if you want Testdrive to be awesome, that's what basically you need to do
[08:39] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, I know, but it's not exactly simple. I'll file a bug for ubuntu touch support so i don't forget that too
[08:40] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, for Touch support: You are going to emulate the Touch image in amd64/i386?
[08:40] <Noskcaj> That, and the individual apps
[08:40] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, hmm
[08:47] <Noskcaj> Now i need dinner, then to make a fonts-liberation transition
[08:49] <DanChapman> Noskcaj: I will move it to testdrive/ at some point today as for finishing this week I can try but i'm not sure. As for keeping up with maintenance of it etc i would be more than happy to.
[08:49] <DanChapman> smartboyhw: hey
[09:14] <smartboyhw> DanChapman, then let's get Testdrive out of Canonical:P
[09:15] <Noskcaj> I would first like to check if canonical can't send someone to help (as in, actually contribute)
[09:18] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, OK, but the question is that Testdrive is not pre-installed (and I don't think it's in main)
[09:18] <smartboyhw> So, it isn't officially supported-.-
[09:19] <Noskcaj> ok
[09:33] <DanChapman> Noskcaj, what day would it need to be done by to make it into suacy?
[09:33] <DanChapman> *saucy
[09:34] <Noskcaj> DanChapman, i assume about a week before beta 2, sooner is better
[09:38] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, DanChapman do remember that UIFreeze and DocFreeze is next week
[09:39] <DanChapman> Noskcaj, ok well i will see what I can get done.
[09:40] <Noskcaj> great, don't worry to much if you can't though, it's not vital
[09:42] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, on Testdrive: Why are all packages Architecture: all ?
[09:42] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, idk.
[09:42] <smartboyhw> cli, gtk and meta should be any I suspect
[12:33] <pitti> Good morning
[12:33] <DanChapman> morning pitti :-)
[12:33] <pitti> hey DanChapman, how are you?
[12:34] <DanChapman> pitti, I'm great thanks, and yourself?
[12:34] <pitti> DanChapman: I'm fine, thanks; enjoying the sprint
[12:36] <DanChapman> pitti: Thats good. They do sound like they are fun
[12:39] <pitti> DanChapman: yeah, intense at times, but always nice to meet one's colleagues; we don't get that very often any more
[12:44] <knome> pitti, do you think that decreases work morale or productivity?
[12:44] <pitti> knome: well, we see each other in hangouts, but it's not quite the same
[12:44] <knome> i see
[12:44] <pitti> knome: I think below a certain point it would, yes
[12:45] <pitti> especially for new team members it's very important to have some actual human contact first :) (and beer *cough*)
[12:45] <knome> hehe, yeah..
[12:45] <knome> what about the lost canonical-community IRL connection?
[12:46] <knome> (referring to no IRL UDS)
[12:50] <DanChapman> pitti: I have a question for you actually, with ap-gtk off the top of your head do you think it could be possible to access the tab label of a GtkNoteBook. I can see it hiding in there when looking at a GtkNotebookPageAccessible object it uses the tab label val as it accessible_name. From what i can work out GAIL/ATK uses a GtkLabel's text val as the accessible_name if it is a child of the widget. It would be a really handy fe
[12:50] <DanChapman> ature if we could click a tab label. I thought i would ask first before filing a pointless bug
[12:52] <pitti> DanChapman: I can't say without deeper investigation, but if that would be useful please definitively file a bug
[12:52] <pitti> DanChapman: I don't see any kind of "tab label" property of GtkNotebook
[12:53] <pitti> DanChapman: but there is gtk_notebook_get_tab_label(), so we could introduce a fake property for this
[12:53] <DanChapman> pitti, ok i'll file a bug for that then
[13:19] <balloons> smartboyhw, good evening
[13:21] <elfy> hi balloons
[13:23] <DanChapman> hey balloons, having a nice time away?. So I have been working on a new testsuite for the emulators its at lp:~dpniel/autopilot-gtk-emulator/testsuite. Could you take a look and let me know if im going in the right direction :-_
[13:24] <DanChapman> :-)
[13:32] <balloons> DanChapman, yes I have.. busy, but enjoyable
[13:32] <balloons> hi elfy !
[13:34] <balloons> DanChapman, looking at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dpniel/autopilot-gtk-emulator/testsuite/view/head:/tests/autopilot/tests/test_gtktoplevel.py looks like the right direction
[13:35] <DanChapman> balloons: cool, thanks for looking. Will carry on as I am then
[13:35] <balloons> yea, looking at the source as well
[13:36] <balloons> basically instantiate and verify your exposed methods
[13:36] <balloons> awesome.. :-)
[15:44] <elopio> good morning people.
[15:48] <rvr> elopio: Good morning (this is vrruiz)
[15:49] <elopio> hello rvr. This is Leo.
[15:49] <davmor2> elopio: yeah cause that's what I need another irc channel ;)
[15:50] <elopio> davmor2, we didn't create a new ###qa just because we think in you :)
[15:51] <davmor2> elopio: http://ubuntuone.com/2BYe6VAgirY0lV2nOwztAz  note the scrollbar on the channels :D
[16:08] <balloons> rvr, but now you can chat with me :-p
[16:08] <rvr> balloons: :)
[16:09] <smartboyhw> balloons, is rvr a new Canonical QA person?
[16:10] <smartboyhw> May the Ubuntu Community QA welcome him:P
[16:10] <rvr> Not really new, I've been in the company almost two years
[16:11] <balloons> smartboyhw, we're just coaxing them out to say hello
[16:11] <smartboyhw> balloons, ah
[16:11] <rvr> We have a couple of new guys, though
[16:11] <smartboyhw> balloons, your fault of not telling people to meet the community
[16:11] <smartboyhw> Maybe because of
 jcastro: it's only because thumper hates you and is anti-community :)
 it's because canonical hates the community
[16:11] <smartboyhw> ?:P
[16:12] <balloons> smartboyhw, there's more than a little sarcasm in there
[16:12] <smartboyhw> (DISCLAIMER: Those sentences are logged in a publicly accessible channel)
[16:12] <smartboyhw> balloons, there is a lot of sarcasm:P
[16:12] <rvr> Be nice, guys
[16:12] <balloons> smartboyhw, did you publish all of your interviews btw?
[16:13]  * DanChapman waves to rvr
[16:13] <smartboyhw> balloons, obviously, I forgot all about it-.-
[16:13] <smartboyhw> balloons, maybe you should take over
[16:13] <smartboyhw> I'm expecting busy days ahead
[16:13] <balloons> smartboyhw, if you have the responses, publish them my friend
[16:14]  * rvr waves too
[16:14] <smartboyhw> balloons, I don't think I have any responses here that are not published
[16:14] <balloons> you will be able to meet a couple others as well.. I'll get them on today ;-)
[16:14] <balloons> smartboyhw, ahh ok, well that's good then
[18:30] <DanChapman> Good night folks see you all tomorrow
[19:05] <balloons> goodnight DanChapman
[19:06] <balloons> hello letozaf
[19:06] <letozaf> balloons, hello
[19:06] <letozaf> balloons, I was reading your email on music app
[19:15] <balloons> alesage, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/TestCaseFormat#contribute
[19:16] <alesage> balloons, thanx
[19:16] <letozaf> balloons, I see that music app has a main_window.py while the other tests that use the emulator have a emulators.py file
[19:17] <balloons> alesage, this was the first testcase I converted; you can see how it looks: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1419/info
[19:17] <balloons> letozaf, yes I noticed it's not using the emulator yet
[19:17] <alesage> balloons, right I recall this format
[19:17] <balloons> letozaf, you could do the work to convert it :-)
[19:17] <letozaf> balloons, yes
[19:18] <letozaf> balloons, I was looking at just that
[19:19] <letozaf> balloons, should I rename  main_window.py to emulators.py  or leave it as it is ?
[19:20] <balloons> letozaf, yes.. I imagine you can convert it easily enough.. reference the other conversions
[19:20] <letozaf> balloons, or just create a new emulators.py and copy in it the main_window stuff
[19:20] <letozaf> balloons, main_window has not much in it
[19:20] <balloons> for music app I don't think any of the main_window stuff needs to be copied over
[19:20] <balloons> all the get_objects and get_mainview isn't needed
[19:20] <balloons> you'll need need to convert those calls in the test
[19:21] <letozaf> balloons, yes, so I will create a new emulators.py, should the main_window be left or canceled ?
[19:23] <balloons> letozaf, you won't need it anymor
[19:24] <letozaf> balloons, yes you are right I was just asking in case ...
[19:24] <letozaf> balloons, never know
[19:27] <balloons> :-)
[20:01] <balloons> letozaf, how's it going?
[20:01] <letozaf> balloons, fine looks like it's gonna work after the changes I made :P
[20:02] <letozaf> balloons, I'm converting ...
[20:03] <balloons> letozaf, :-)
[20:03] <balloons> letozaf, I was looking and stock ticker and sudoku need converted alos
[20:04] <balloons> so that might be something to have fun with :-)
[20:04] <letozaf> balloons, ok  after music I will go for those :)
[20:17] <balloons> letozaf, :-)
[20:17] <balloons> s
[20:17] <balloons> so iBelieve and I tracked down the filemanager bug finally :-)
[20:50] <elopio> veebers, thomi, balloons: almost ready, missing one self test: https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/base_autopilot_class/+merge/185170
[20:59] <elopio> om26er, https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/base_autopilot_class/+merge/185170