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cjwatsonddebs> Ah, now that I catch up on one of the sysadmin channels I see it was handled there.00:03
slangasekstgraber: you have bug #1181789 assigned to yourself for raring; do you still mean to follow through on it00:52
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1181789 in upstart (Ubuntu Raring) "second call of 'initctl start' leads to fork instead of exec ('mount: / is busy' during shutdown)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118178900:52
slangasek?00:52
infinitycjwatson: Agreed on carobness.  However I go about that.02:14
stgraberslangasek: ah yeah, I suppose I should SRU that.02:41
stgraberslangasek: it's one of those tasks I opened because the bug is bad and really should be SRUed, but AFAIK nobody other than me reported it on raring so it's not very pressing.02:41
slangasekstgraber: no, there were lots of other reports of this issue in raring (see the now-duped bug); if you're not going to SRU it, please tell me and I'll take care of it.06:07
xnoxslangasek: stgraber: we should push out raring sru with all the fixes that needed to go in. as far as I remember raring sru never validated.08:15
cjwatsoninfinity: According to RT#53566 you should actually have carob access already ...09:09
cjwatsoninfinity: As in, it's supposed to be based on ubuntu_archive group membership, which you have09:10
xnoxWhich kylin seeds are authoritative? lp:~ubuntukylin-members/ubuntukylin/ubuntukylin-meta or lp:~ubuntukylin-members/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntukylin.saucy ?10:28
smartboyhwxnox, I heard that seeds will be used at 14.04 LTS10:28
smartboyhwSo, probably the first link10:28
smartboyhw(For Kylin)10:29
cjwatsonI sincerely hope it's the second10:29
cjwatsonMaintaining metapackages by hand in bzr is daft10:29
smartboyhwI actually questioned them before10:29
xnoxcjwatson: both have recentish commits =/10:29
cjwatsonSend them to me, I can supply clue on these matters :)10:29
xnoxcjwatson: i guess they do maintain something for their precise spins.10:30
infinitycjwatson: Ahh, well, then maybe I just need to figure out what that means and use it. :P12:59
infinitycjwatson: I do indeed have access to the machine.12:59
cjwatsoninfinity: Logs are in /srv/launchpad.net-logs/production/<blah>13:00
cjwatsoninfinity: You may want to lift ~cjwatson/bin/rtail (which I cargo-culted from wgrant, in turn)13:00
cjwatsoninfinity: Stuff in /home/archvsync/scripts/ shows where the logs are rsynced from, in cases where you can't wait for the regular rsyncs13:01
infinitycjwatson: Shiny.  This should prove handy.13:01
cjwatsonThe copy logs from yesterday were in production/ackee/launchpad/celeryd-production_launchpad_job.log*13:02
cjwatsonAnd of course you'll probably like production/alphecca/buildd-manager.log*13:02
infinityVery tempted to symlink alpaca to alphecca.13:03
cjwatsonIt's owned by archvsync, you can't :P13:05
cjwatsonThough I guess you have a homedir13:05
tumbleweedwhat needs to be kicked to get ncbi-tools6 to migrate? It's complaining about libvibrant6 being out of date, but I don't see that in Packages13:18
cjwatsonOh, I think last time I looked at that it was proposed-internal NBS13:21
cjwatsonLet me have a poke13:21
tumbleweedI'd understand libvibrant6a being NBS, but libvibrant6 is long gone13:22
* tumbleweed has no idea what proposed-internal NBS means :P13:22
cjwatsonSo13:22
cjwatsonWe track not-built-from-source (NBS) binaries in saucy13:22
cjwatsonhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html13:22
tumbleweedyes13:22
cjwatsonAnd if a binary is in saucy but not in saucy-proposed, proposed-migration assumes that the NBS binaries are removed when deciding whether the source can be migrated13:23
tumbleweedright13:23
cjwatsonBut, there is a corner case here13:23
cjwatsonLet's say we have version 1 in saucy, version 2 in saucy-proposed which never migrated, and now version 3 in saucy-proposed which is trying to migrate13:24
cjwatsonIf version 2 built a binary not in version 3, we don't track that13:24
cjwatsonSo the binary needs to be checked by hand and removed from saucy-proposed13:24
tumbleweedah, that's possibly the case here13:24
cjwatsonIt's basically an awkward side-effect of -proposed being a partial suite13:25
cjwatsonIt's exactly the case here13:25
cjwatsonncbi-tools6 | 6.1.20120620-2 | saucy/universe | source13:25
cjwatsonncbi-tools6 | 6.1.20120620-5 | saucy-proposed/universe | source13:25
cjwatsonlibvibrant6 | 6.1.20120620-3 | saucy-proposed/universe | amd64, armhf, i386, powerpc13:25
cjwatsonlibvibrant6-dbg | 6.1.20120620-3 | saucy-proposed/universe | amd64, armhf, i386, powerpc13:25
tumbleweedaah, libvibrant6 was never removed from -proposed13:25
tumbleweedthat makes sense13:25
cjwatsonExactly13:25
cjwatsonJust checking for rdepends now13:25
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cjwatsontumbleweed: removed, thanks13:31
tumbleweedcjwatson: thank you13:33
stgraberslangasek,xnox: oh, apparently I'm not subscribed to bugs for the upstart package in Ubuntu, that'd explain why I didn't see any bug trafic.13:37
stgraberslangasek: I believe at the time we had an SRU in proposed so that's why I didn't upload it directly, though I see that's no longer the case, so I'll at least push the cherry-pick to the branch and update the bug with a testcase (not sure if it has the SRU headers already)13:44
xnoxright. and we might be missing a few other bug-fixes on the SRU that should go in.13:46
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cjwatsonstgraber: ^-14:59
stgraberlooking14:59
stgrabercjwatson: there you go ^15:01
infinitycjwatson: Want to add any-ppc64el to debian/control upstream so we don't forget later?15:01
infinitycjwatson: Hrm, and any-x32 ... How did no one complain about that yet?15:01
infinityI suppose I have commit, don't I.  Maybe I'll do that.15:02
infinityNot a branch: "bzr+ssh://bzr.debian.org/bzr/pkg-grub/branches/2.00/"15:02
cjwatsonUh, are you sure upstream configure would handle that?15:02
infinitygrump.15:02
cjwatsonbzr+ssh://bzr.debian.org/bzr/pkg-grub/trunk/grub/15:03
infinitycjwatson: Oh, fair point on the ppc64el thing, might need to check.  (Though, it should work with a sufficiently new config.{sub,guess})15:03
infinitycjwatson: But I'm confused that no one's complained about the missing x32...15:03
cjwatsonAnyway it needs a bit more than a control tweak - there'll be stuff in rules and files in debian/ too.15:03
infinityYeah, so I'm seeing upon a grep.15:04
infinityI'll poke it $later, it's certainly not urgent.15:04
cjwatsonI can do it nowish.15:04
infinityFor 14.04, I need to make some time to see if I can switch to grub2 on all yaboot subarches.15:06
infinityI certainly don't want to bring up any new PPC ports with yaboot.15:06
cjwatsonWhat's x32 in config.{guess,sub} speak?15:09
infinityx86_64-linux-gnux3215:09
infinityI believe.15:09
cjwatsoninfinity: Actually, I've uncommitted my ppc64el change.  This needs actual build-testing first, because configure.ac does need to be updated.15:10
infinitycjwatson: Yeah, hence my "$later" thing.15:10
cjwatsonDitto I'd really rather be able to see whether x32 works first.15:11
infinitycjwatson: Yeah, don't worry about it.  It was an observation in passing when I saw the arches in .dsc15:11
infinitycjwatson: x32 doesn't matter deeply to me, but I can test it in Debian sometime.  And ppc64el, I'll argue with it when we have a port.15:11
infinity(The latter will definitely happen due to my previously-mentioned not wanting to have another yaboot port)15:12
cjwatsonIt's probably just a matter of powerpc64-* -> powerpc64-*|powerpc64le-* and similar in configure15:12
infinityProbably.15:12
cjwatsonOh, heck, it might be more than that, maybe the ELF relocator needs porting15:12
infinityAnd x32 might be a zero issue thing, since it's x86_64, and the ILP32 part doesn't factor in for the bootloader bit, just for the userspace tools.15:13
cjwatsonYeah, just install it via multiarch15:13
cjwatsonMight be nice to build it though15:13
* infinity nods.15:13
cjwatsonWouldn't be too surprising to find a wrong type size somewhere though15:14
slangasekstgraber: yes, 1.8-0ubuntu1.2 had a regression, bug #1199778; so we should get a re-SRU... :)15:23
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1199778 in upstart (Ubuntu Raring) "upstart crashes if re-exec'ed with active chroot sessions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119977815:24
stgraberslangasek: ok, if I push the bugfix for the restart bug to the branch and update the bug report with the SRU paperwork, can you or xnox take it from there?15:28
xnoxok, by me.15:28
slangasekstgraber: yes15:32
slangasekstgraber, cjwatson: so I'm happy to see that bug #1187233 is indeed resolved in saucy with the new shim-signed, which means it's time for me to start worrying about SRUs.  I'm considering that the best option might be: 1) pull back the gnu-efi source; 2) verify that all revdeps (including shim) build in precise with the updated gnu-efi; 3) pull back sbsigntool; 4) binary copy shim from saucy (so we don't have to submit a new binary to 15:35
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1187233 in OEM Priority Project "Grub2 fails on ASUS X201E with secure boot is enabled" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118723315:35
slangasek... reupload shim-signed, with the build-deps adjusted for sbsigntool15:35
slangasekdoes that sound reasonable / possible?15:35
cjwatsonYeah, unless you think you can figure out a gnu-efi backport15:37
infinityDoes your sbsigntool alignment fix also apply to kernel signing?  Should we make sure the new version is on ftpmaster?15:39
infinityWe've had this discussion, I think.  Was the concensus just "meh, wait until ftpmaster is upgraded to precise"?15:40
cjwatsonNot sure what the timescale on that's going to be.  Might be better to push to lucid-cat.15:40
slangasekinfinity: we don't care about the sbsigntool alignment except in the case where we're trying to reproduce the MS-signed output15:46
slangasekthe current sbsigntool already produces perfectly valid signed objects that work fine15:47
slangasekso yes, I don't care about pushing this back to lucid-cat15:47
infinityMmkay, so it's not producing buggy output, per se, just slightly weird output?15:50
slangaseknot even weird, just not identical to MS15:51
* infinity nods.15:51
infinityThough, "identical to MS" seems like what you want for SB stuff.15:51
slangasekcjwatson: "does anyone feel desperately that we have to keep this or shall I just go ahead and drop it" - surely those are not mutually exclusive!15:52
cjwatsonmaybe not well-phrased :)15:53
stgraberxnox: is lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu/raring/upstart/raring the right branch to use for the upstart raring SRU?16:01
xnoxstgraber: yes, it is.16:03
stgrabercjwatson: did you upload grub2-signed? I can't remember seeing it on saucy-changes16:09
cjwatsonOh, no, I'll go and do that now16:10
tjaaltoncould someone have a look at glamor-egl in NEW, phoronix is making fun of us still not supporting 3d on newest radeons..16:10
tjaaltonit was uploaded before FF16:11
tjaalton(barely=16:11
tjaalton)16:11
cjwatsonstgraber: done16:15
barryhi folks.  i have one package that entered new before ff (nose2) and two packages i submitted ffe's on (pip and virtualenv).  i don't mean to be a noodge (and will happily wait patiently) but i just want to make sure they aren't waiting on something from me.17:50
rsalvetiin case someone has the time to review another FFe :-), bug 122466520:03
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1224665 in gst-plugins-bad1.0 (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Android media support over hybris for gst-plugins-bad1.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122466520:03
rsalvetineeded for touch to have hardware decode & rendering support in gstreamer, using the android video hal (over libgstagefright)20:03
Laneyrsalveti: what is [i386 armhf] about?20:06
rsalvetiLaney: it uses hybris (android), so it can only be tested in i386 and armhf because we only have android devices for those archs20:07
rsalvetithat's why I didn't enable it for all archs20:07
Laneysorry, got to leave - no time to review20:12
Laneybut what would the harm be in building it everywhere it can? (seems that means !ppc)20:12
* Laney leaves it for others20:12
rsalvetiLaney: wouldn't cause any harm I guess, but I know it could only work i386 and armhf as of now20:13
infinityI'm fine with the arch restriction for now.20:15

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