[00:00] Bug 1219695 - the FFe's approved but I believe it was waiting for there to be a testing slot. [00:00] bug 1219695 in qtxmlpatterns-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Qt 5.1.1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1219695 [00:00] I'm only a bystander though. [00:02] cjwatson: bringup ubuntu to another device issues, when booting, perhaps that something you know ? at least here is a syslog from boot : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094812/ [00:02] no screen [00:02] Is there an irc channel for Q/A for ubuntu touch? sorry but i have a general question... [00:03] Ok so i have a question regarding the core system and where it stands when it comes to utilizing the General Processing of GPU? Is OpenCL being used in the Ubuntu Touch code or will the option be provided in SDK? Nexus 10, Galaxy S4 and Note 3 DOES support OpenCL and as it stands, there are more devices to come that are/will use it. [00:03] anders3408: no idea [00:03] anders3408: me talking here about release process stuff really doesn't indicate I know about device bringup details === Fyodorovna is now known as wilee-nilee [00:04] Also, one of the issues with modern apps is support for multi-core hardware, will this be looked at? [00:04] cjwatson: Neat, will follow that, thanks [00:06] didnt read all you wrote cjwatson :) thats why i asked :) [00:07] iBotPeaches: any luck getting a syslog ? [00:07] :) [00:08] anders3408: its dead, waiting for it to come back to life. its still plugged into laptop [00:08] iBotPeaches: define dead ? :) [00:08] not more power or + [00:08] ? [00:08] no power, I let it die whenever I last worked on it [00:08] ahh :) [00:09] iBotPeaches: did you add some find5.conf and rules ? [00:09] .rules [00:10] anders3408: I did nothing besides getting to build, so nope === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [00:20] anyone could help me? I still need to understand this : "Second, look at apq8064-tabla-snd-card.conf. Rename and copy into your own UCM directory. If you're making a tablet image (that can't make voice calls), you can remove the VoiceCall part (and the corresponding file)." [00:20] I can't find this file in my tree [00:20] and I didn't get where to put it anyway === salem_ is now known as _salem [00:30] Saviq, hey [00:30] are you familiar with a bug where I got locked on the home screen and can't slide to the other scopes? [00:39] hey, I have a question [00:40] iBotPeaches: so far this is my syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094812/ [00:40] i need to go to sleep now [00:41] how do I port ubuntu touch to a At&t fusion 2 (the easy way)? [00:41] Anonynimity: there is no such thing as the easy way :) [00:41] anders3408: kk, i started working on some work. we'll talk tommorrow === anders3408 is now known as anders3408|afk [00:42] sure iBotPeaches :) [00:42] well, could you help me with this anders3408? [00:42] please? [00:42] Anonynimity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting [00:42] I've read that a million times. [00:43] then why the hell are you asking how to port [00:43] and it confuses me in some parts [00:43] that document explains it all, even how to debug your broken builds [00:43] 1) where is the /roomservice.xml file? [00:44] 1) .repo folder [00:44] well .repo/local_manifests if we are being exact [00:44] ok. [00:45] what's the mako target? [00:45] brunch doesn't exist on saucy salamander [00:45] huh [00:45] nor does breakfast [00:45] you don't really know how to source build do you [00:46] not really, no. [00:46] those are parts of the CyanogenMod build procedure [00:46] that's why I'm so confused. [00:46] brunch/breakfast wont be in saucy [00:46] right.... I know this... [00:46] Anonynimity: there's a link in /topic that gives the code name of Mako as one of the reference hardware devices [00:46] Ok, [00:46] The Nexus Status link [00:46] Anonynimity: does your device have cm [00:47] yes [00:48] whats its codename [00:48] my device's code name or the CM I'm running? [00:48] device [00:49] idk... it's a huawei fusion 2, or an att fusion 2, or a huawei u8665 [00:49] Anonynimity: I don't remember CM ever taking a Huawei device official [00:49] Are you sure you have OFFICIAL cm [00:49] pretty sure [00:50] well I don't see it in the github, so you'll have to make a device tree (or find one) [00:50] and then manually add it to roomservice, since brunch won't find your device [00:51] how do I make a device tree in github? [00:51] Your on your own mate. You have a lot to learn [00:53] so do I create a repo or fork a repo? [01:21] bzoltan: awake this early? [01:52] What is the current recommended way to unlock the SIM pin on a nex su4? Command-line is ok if required. === _salem is now known as salem_ [02:24] nvm worked it out. === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [03:28] mhall119: I am active now :) 4:21 am is a bit early even for me === salem_ is now known as _salem [03:38] in theory wouldn't the ubuntu image automatically resize the screen based on the phone? [03:38] *Phone's screen size? [04:11] How can I get run Ubuntu Desktop on my Galaxy Nexus? | http://askubuntu.com/q/344488 === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo === mrjazzcat is now known as mrjazzcat-afk [05:42] Hi all [05:42] Is there anyone who know ALSA configureation for Nexus4? [05:43] I want to make aplay working [06:42] good morning [08:20] Hi all, I'm installing Ubuntu Touch on Nexus4 for the first time. To developement of core apps, which is the best image? [08:20] cdimage-touch|cdimage-legacy|ubuntu-system [08:25] Hello, I've installed Qt Ubuntu SDK as described here: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/#step-get-toolkit, but when I'm trying to create a new project for Ubuntu -> Simple Touch UI then I'm unable to find that type. [08:25] What to do? am I forgot to install something! [08:25] Help me please [08:35] Good morning all, happy Video Games Day! :-D [09:32] cjwatson: in theory how would the click/chroot support look like? use-or-create chroot, enter it, exports dpkg-architecture -aarmhf, and auto-invokes a passed command, e.g. cmake & make? [09:33] I haven't actually started on it yet but something like that. I expect a fairly thin wrapper around mk-sbuild and schroot. [09:33] "click chroot create", "click chroot run", with some params [09:34] Or something like that [09:37] cjwatson: ok. bind-mounting / transferring source code would be nice, in a sensible way. Since cmake by-default prefers separate per-arch build-directory, the original source-code can even remain read-only. === b0bben_ is now known as b0bben [10:02] xnox: Well, if it's wrapping schroot, then schroot has sensible bind-mounting by default [10:03] Among the reasons I'd rather wrap that than write something new ... [10:06] ok cool. === gusch is now known as gusch|lunch [10:29] mardy: hey, quick Qt/u-s-s question. Do you know if/how I can access a context property set in main() from within PluginManager? QQMlEngine::contextForObject(this)->contextProperty(foo) segfaults ... [10:36] How can I debug a app on phone? [10:50] Saviq, are we ready to go? [10:55] @WebbyIT connect via adb [10:56] mutantkeyboard, ok, and after that? I know how run app on phone, but I need something like qmlprofile to understand why crash [10:56] mutantkeyboard, I cannot reproduce crash on pc [10:57] Laney: sorry, was at lunch [10:57] aha, try ssh to a device [10:57] and then run qmlscene yourapp and see the result [10:58] it should be pretty straightforward [10:58] Laney: it should work, but where do you have that code? [10:58] mardy: PluginManagerPrivate::reload() [10:58] Laney: if it's in the constructor, it might be too early [10:58] let me see if I can find you a link with an explanation [10:59] Laney: dunno, but it might be too early (it's called from classBegin()) [11:00] mardy: hmm, what do you suggest? [11:00] I'm trying to get the value of an env variable to this code [11:00] also to qml; context properties seemed right [11:01] @WebbyIT https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing#Testing_a_ubuntu_touch_application [11:01] there are links explaining everything [11:02] Laney: wait, in your line before, do you literally have "this", or "q"? [11:02] tried both [11:02] mutantkeyboard, thanks very much :) [11:02] no problem [11:03] Laney: try with "q", and see if moving the call to relead to componentComplete() helps [11:03] well, plugin and q; this isn't type correct [11:03] hmm OK [11:04] nah, still crashes [11:06] Laney: is QQMlEngine::contextForObject(q) null? [11:08] mardy: no it's not, but it still crashes whenever you try to use contextProperty() [11:11] Laney: without your changes, does accessing the property from QML work? [11:11] it's in QML fine [11:11] I tried passing it back as a Q_PROPERTY of PluginManager but that comes in too late of course [11:15] Laney: probably the object isn't fully initialized when you call contextProperty(); can you call it later? [11:15] mardy: Not sure. Let me push what I have (including a workaround of grabbing the environment directly there) and see if you have any idae [11:16] s [11:21] mardy: Grab lp:~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/dynamic-hiding [11:21] See the commented out qDebug() line in plugin-manager.cpp; that makes it crash in the testsuite [11:21] but if you can think of somewhere else I can do this then that's fine [11:22] Anyone having problems playing mp3's??? I added accept4 to my kernel, and I can play an mp3 with mplayer and pulse just fine in terminal [11:23] but in the music-app or watching a video.. I get a pulse mutex error [11:23] no mutex error playing the same mp3 in terminal with pulse started.. plays all the way [11:23] codec issue? [11:23] mplayer does not use gstreamer [11:24] updating =) [11:28] OrokuSaki: the music app works here.. [11:29] thanks popey! [11:29] Sort of =) [11:29] heh [11:31] Anyone notice the small .zip filesize of the latest image built? [11:31] 288mb? [11:35] hi to all [11:37] any one is reading ? [11:39] test_: of course [11:39] Laney: works fine here :-) [11:40] Laney: the only thing that doesn't work is the unit test, bug just because the PluginManager is instantiated directly (not by the QML engine) [11:40] s/bug/but/ [11:41] O RLY [11:41] * Laney builds with nocheck [11:42] Laney: yep :-) and QQMlEngine::contextForObject(q) returns NULL in that case, so you can detect whether you are running inside the tests or not [11:42] mardy: huh, true === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:42] I did try with nocheck before but it must have been something else [11:42] mardy: thanks ;-) [11:43] Also, I might have another question for you shortly :P [11:43] Laney: however, I'd suggest a change: move the reload() to componentComplete(), add a showAll Q_PROPERTY to PluginManager and set it from QML [11:44] Laney: because then PluginManager is more easily testable [11:44] Laney: and overall seems cleaner to me :-) [11:44] really? [11:44] feels like more indirection to me [11:45] Hi [11:45] Laney: true, it's more indirect [11:45] I am having issues with phablet-flash [11:46] Version: 1.0+13.10.20130911.2-0ubuntu1 [11:46] Laney: but generally you want to alter QObjects' behaviour via properties, not via the QML context [11:46] mzanetti: i cant lock my nexus7... [11:46] Laney: the context is somehow more invisible [11:46] hmm [11:46] dednick: huh? [11:46] phablet-flash: error: unrecognized arguments: -b [11:46] Laney: it would be nice to be able to look at the header file of PluginManager and immediately see what it can do [11:46] dednick: just put it on your desk and walk away [11:46] mzanetti: lol, cant turn it off either [11:46] come back a minute later [11:46] when trying to do a fresh bootstrap install on my Galaxy Nexus [11:47] mzanetti: the lock button doesnt even work [11:47] Laney: TBH, using the QML context is no better than using environment variables [11:47] dednick: the reporter of the bug says you should wait for it to lock itself [11:47] ingo_: whats the full list of parameters you're giving? [11:48] mzanetti: yeh, but it never happened, so i tried to to it manually. didnt work [11:48] phablet-flash ubuntu-system -b [11:48] dednick: hmm... ok.. not sure what's wrong there... [11:48] Laney: if you want the most direct way, then read the environment variable from within the PluginManager, and remove passing it via the context :-) [11:48] nevermind. just did adb reboot. seems to be working now [11:49] mardy: It needs to be available to QML too, otherwise I would do it like that [11:49] unless you mean to /set/ it ino the context from there too [11:49] ingo_: yes, ubuntu-system doesn't need -b [11:49] ingo_: what documentation suggested it did? [11:49] Laney: yep, when the PluginManager creates the context for the plugins, it could add that variable [11:50] http://askubuntu.com/questions/331744/error-while-installing-ubuntu-touch/331746#331746 [11:51] ingo_: fixed, thanks [11:54] mzanetti: works fine for me. [11:54] dednick: yeah... for me too [11:54] dednick: please comment on that bug that you can't reproduce neither [11:56] mzanetti: done [11:56] dednick: thanks === Andro|AFK is now known as andromorphone [11:56] no worries. good to know nexus 7 image is working again! [12:00] Saviq: should unity8 be installing libhybris as a dep on desktop? [12:00] and mir [12:01] barry: larger update for me today (80M or so, probably multiple days) and had to retry the download a couple of times from the UI, then on the last try it downloaded and rebooted by itself -- weird === andromorphone is now known as Andro|AFK [12:08] does somebody knows how to set set the default ubuntu background on the phone via dab ?\ [12:08] adb === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:17] oreneeshy: well, ubuntu-system-settings application has background plugin, and i think that calls dbus methods to set/change background. So look into that source code. You might be able to use $ dbus-send from the shell to set/change it. [12:17] Laney: so, the goal of exporting the showAllUi to QML is to be able to toggle the visibility of individual components within a plugin? [12:17] (and/or like the terminal app) [12:17] mardy: correct [12:18] people are asking to hide the unfinished stuff by default [12:18] I figured it would be useful for devs to be able to have it though [12:19] Laney: makes sense [12:20] Laney: mmm... why are you setting the property on the root context? isn't it enough if you set it on the PluginManager's context? [12:21] no, wasn't set if I did that [12:21] remove the engine()->rootContext()-> to see that [12:22] not sure why, this context stuff is a bit weird to me :-) [12:22] Is it possible to play an mp3 from QML? [12:23] ah, prolly found it http://askubuntu.com/questions/236619/playing-sound-with-ubuntu-qml-toolkit-preview [12:26] any one knows why -b is no longer working on phablet-flash? [12:28] victorp: it does, if you use cdimage-touch [12:28] victorp: does it work _after_ the image type? [12:28] victorp: it's never worked for ubuntu-system [12:28] victorp: phablet-flash [image-type options] [12:29] ah that could be it [12:29] victorp: to bootstrap / reflash ubuntu-system image specify to upgrade from revision 0 [12:29] I think I did ubuntu-sustem [12:29] victorp: that should do it "from scratch" (using full image, instead of a delta) [12:30] is downloading recovery now , thanks popey [12:30] the wiki wasnt to clear about that [12:31] feel free to edit it ☻ === Andro|AFK is now known as andromorphone === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:37] bfiller, you around? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:49] cjwatson, sorry for getting into this (since you might have already discussed), but do you know why the apps don't launch when being preinstalled? [12:50] sergiusens: possibly because of bug 1223085 [12:50] bug 1223085 in click (Ubuntu) "preinstalling click packages to /custom/click doesn't run apparmor hooks" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1223085 [12:51] sergiusens: I know what to do for that but I'm attempting to pick actionable pieces out of bug 1065281 first before the OEM team sends black helicopters to my house [12:51] bug 1065281 in OEM Priority Project quantal "Installer crashed when trying to partition 4k/4k sector hard disks" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065281 === b0bben_ is now known as b0bben [12:54] cjwatson, yeah, oem team can behave like hasty hobbits :-) [12:55] To be fair I've been dragging my feet on this one for the best part of a year ... [12:57] cjwatson, fwiw (and jdstrand) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6096915/ [12:57] sergiusens: hey === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 [12:58] bfiller, you coming to the office today? If yes I can wait [12:58] bfiller, I wanted to discuss the webbrowser-app and webapps [12:58] since they depend on the same runtime [12:59] sergiusens: don't think I'm coming in [12:59] it would be hard to make a click package out of webbrowser-app as the webapps depend on the the binary [12:59] bfiller, enough driving for the week? :-) [12:59] sergiusens: exactly :) [12:59] don't want to set foot in my car again [13:00] :-) [13:00] sergiusens: so do we need to change something in webbrowser-app? === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:03] sergiusens: read-only mode, I presume [13:03] sergiusens: Hm. Yeah. So that does actually make my plan unviable, whoops. Needs bug 1215092 in that case [13:03] bug 1215092 in lxc-android-config (Ubuntu Saucy) "please add support to run postinst-style code on first boot after upgrades" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215092 [13:04] bfiller, well that's what I wanted to discuss [13:04] sergiusens: should we jump on mumble or hangout and grab oSoMoN ? [13:05] do I understand correctly, that if I want to add a normal Ubuntu service (openssh-server, for instance) to my Nexus 7, then I must use the cdimage-touch image, but if I only want Ubuntu SDK apps, then I should use ubuntu-system? [13:06] bfiller, sounds good [13:06] bfiller, any time is good [13:06] sergiusens: on mumble now [13:07] mzanetti: ping [13:08] bfiller, on my way [13:09] dholbach, mzanetti +1'd https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/ubuntu/saucy/qtdeclarative-opensource-src/add-qtquick-delegate-range/+merge/184774 [13:12] re [13:13] plars: pong [13:13] mzanetti: did something change with the unity8 tests recently? [13:13] mzanetti: they seem to be failing on the daily images now, and I'm seeing something like this in the logs: [13:13] Unable to create directory: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/utah/testsuites/unity8-autopilot/unity8-autopilot/shell/tests/test_notifications.py", line 29, in ' [13:17] mzanetti: this is happening on devices btw [13:17] plars: yeah... python-gi was dropped from the default image yesterday [13:17] plars: there is a branch that fixes it already [13:18] mzanetti: ok, I was wondering if that's what it was, I'm not sure what python-gi is [13:19] plars, not that i want them to be re-run, but do you have an idea why the 43 image doesnt have maguro tests at all ? [13:20] ogra_: looking [13:21] plars: the MP to fix the unity8 issue is failing the merger stuff [13:21] ogra_: there was a dns failure on the install test, so it never even made it as far as installing the image completely. Since it was probably late last night when it happened, I wasn't around to kick it back off again [13:21] popey, how do I get the SDK to enable developer mode on my device, seems to fail to install ssh [13:21] plars, thanks [13:22] mzanetti: see what cjohnston said ^ [13:22] cjohnston: yes, I know. on it [13:22] plars: [13:22] mzanetti: awesome :) [13:23] bzoltan: hey, where's a good source for the QtQuick qdocs source? [13:24] 18 [13:24] lool: that is weird. any clues from the log file? [13:24] cjwatson, ok, so we need to wait on stgraber [13:25] tedg: will there a be a dbus interface that apps can call to invoke uri handler? I know they can do it from QDesktopServices in code but how about from a desktop file? [13:25] bfiller, I'd prefer if they didn't use the DBus interface but instead the little utility in that case. [13:26] tedg: for example, webapps click packages need to invoke the browser but shouldn't do it directly [13:26] tedg: what is that utility? [13:26] bfiller, url-dispatcher, it's in url-dispatcher-tools [13:26] sergiusens: I think so, unfortunately [13:26] victorp: adb shell touch /userdata/.writable_image [13:26] victorp: then reboot [13:26] tedg: nice [13:26] sergiusens: ^^^^ url-dispatcher I think can be used in the webapps click packages [13:26] popey, ta! [13:26] victorp: however... bug 1223301 [13:26] bug 1223301 in qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu "Cannot enable developer mode on read-only image" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1223301 [13:27] sergiusens: Though I guess I should still write the click side of things, and maybe it's useful to run it in the RW case [13:27] bfiller, I don't think we have http:// in the url list right now... we should probably add that one :-) [13:27] tedg, if the webbrowser app is a click app, how is that going to work? [13:27] tedg: yeah, certainly need that (and https) [13:27] popey, meaning? do I need to reflash cd-image [13:27] ? [13:28] bfiller, Yeah, in general we want to get to the apps exporting it. But for a quick solution we hard coded them. I'll add those. [13:28] sergiusens, ? What do you mean? It'll start the click app. [13:30] tedg, right ... in the application upstart job you have APP_ID and APP_URI ... the webbrowser app for webapps takes an additional --chromeless argument... === didrocks1 is now known as didrocks [13:31] tedg: we need to be able to pass args as well [13:31] victorp: well, up to you, but I am not using read-only image at the moment because some bits don't work with it, like sdk [13:31] sergiusens, Hmm, how about having web browser export two different apps? webbrowser and webbrowser-chromeless ? [13:31] sergiusens: yes? [13:31] popey , ok - i will try the work around and see [13:31] tedg, that's what I was thinking [13:32] tedg, and make it hidden by default [13:32] tedg, sergiusens : that will only partially work as -chromeless takes args like what chrome to show [13:32] stgraber, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image/+bug/1215092 [13:32] Launchpad bug 1215092 in lxc-android-config (Ubuntu Saucy) "please add support to run postinst-style code on first boot after upgrades" [High,Triaged] [13:32] Wait, do we want the webapps starting the web browser? Doesn't that mean that the data can be shared between webapps? [13:32] popey - I am trying to publish my torch app :) [13:32] I thought one of the benefits was things like cookie isolation. [13:32] bfiller, ah, wasn't awate of that one [13:33] victorp: yay [13:33] bfiller, I'm a bit confused, like themes? [13:33] stgraber, I'm getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6096915/ [13:34] tedg: no, so when you are running in chromeless mode the caller can pass args to enable certain chrome, like back/forward buttons, url field, etc.. [13:35] Hmm, okay. [13:35] The desktop file format doesn't really have a way for us to insert arguments... [13:35] christina why did you leave [13:36] barry: /var/log/system-image/client.log is empty; is there another one? [13:36] i know this woman christiana .. shmexy woman [13:36] lool: nope [13:36] not for you boyd [13:37] barry: how come it's empty? haven't relaunched OS updates since the reboot [13:38] lool: take a look at /etc/system-image/client.ini at logfile and loglevel variables. the former should point to that file. if the latter says 'error' then no errors must have occurred (you could bump it down to info, and maybe we should as default), but of course, you'd have to re-run it to get any output now [13:39] barry: let's switch the default to info then [13:39] barry: I think it's super small when compared to syslog traffic I'm seeing right now [13:39] lool: +1 i'll do that in 1.6 [13:39] barry: and it's only when checking / applying updates anyway [13:39] barry: thanks [13:39] victorp: lemme know if you need any testing ☻ [13:39] sergiusens: right, I haven't had time to work on bug 1215092 yet though I've got some ideas of how I want to solve it. As for what you pasted, jdstrand is more likely to be of help I guess. [13:39] bug 1215092 in lxc-android-config (Ubuntu Saucy) "please add support to run postinst-style code on first boot after upgrades" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215092 [13:40] barry: some components are even in debug mode still, but that might be too much for system-image, not sure [13:40] stgraber, yeah,I'm looking at aa-clickhook right now... I was just filling you in :-) [13:40] lool: haha, yeah, you don't want debug for system-image, IIRC it prints every single byte it gets from the network :) [13:40] lool: it might be. let's info it and see (alternatively, we could knock it down to debug now and then raise it if it seems too much) [13:41] segastep: Please keep the sexist commentary off this channel. Preferably off this planet. [13:41] stgraber: does it still do that? [13:42] stgraber, barry: I remember it was painful to run with -v -v at some point :-) [13:42] stgraber: yeah, but it won't do that once the d/l service is integrated :) [13:42] lool: okay, let's go with info and see how that goes [13:42] bfiller, So I'd prefer to not change the desktop exec line stuff. Would it be reasonable to have a custom URL? webapp://urlbar/http://mysite.com ? [13:42] barry: good point :) [13:42] this should be trace level if that exists with logging [13:42] barry: col thanks [13:42] tedg: that's a good idea [13:43] oSoMoN: is that something that is doable (read scrollback) [13:45] Hello [13:45] We are a upcoming smartphone brand for india market [13:46] need tech help on implementing Ubuntu Touch on our handsets [13:46] need custom Ubuntu OS for our handsets [13:47] ogra_, tedg : I'm disconnecting like crazy, I may have missed a response [13:47] please email me on ammeet.desai@smartnamo.com for consulting opportunity [13:47] mterry, h,, if there was a question to respond to i have missed it too [13:47] mterry, I didn't see a ping... [13:47] ogra_, tedg: heh, must have sent both while I was timing out [13:48] Need Ubuntu programmers for implementing Ubuntu OS on mediatek MT6589 1.5 Ghz [13:48] ogra_, feel like approving https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/session-manager-touch/lightdm-switch/+merge/184659 nowadays? [13:48] smartnamo, if you need commercial support http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/backed-by-canonical [13:48] tedg, hello! When a user is on the Touch greeter and presses the dash button in the launcher, we need some way to signal via unity-greeter-session-broadcast that the shell should show the dash. Do you have an opinion on the best way to do that? An empty string appId? A new API in u-g-s-b? [13:48] mterry, I think a new API makes sense. [13:48] mterry, waiting for asac approval, then i'mm just merge it ... i think asac still wants to hold back changes until we have the next good image [13:48] bfiller, tedg: what’s the use case? why can’t we pass command line args? [13:48] mterry, hoping we can do it today though [13:49] oSoMoN, There's no way to identify them in the Exec line of a desktop file. [13:49] oSoMoN: when moving to click packages webapps can't directly invoke the webbrowser-app executable [13:49] zsombi: hi! Did you have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/lp1221707/+merge/184513 ? [13:49] oSoMoN: so proposal is for webapps to use url dispatcher [13:49] ogra_, OK, thanks [13:49] zsombi: I now added a unit test [13:49] tedg, OK, will propose something [13:49] mterry, so do you have a proper seat in logind (as well as an active session) with the latest changes ? [13:49] mterry, Not sure if there's a way on the session bus to request that, but we can do the same trick with the Upstart job and have it just do a gdbus call. [13:50] mardy: not yet, haven't checked it. Jenkins is broken again, not sure whether your tests will get executed at all... :) :( [13:50] ogra_, yeah, after patching lightdm to handle this weird fallback case (no mir and no VT switching allowed) [13:50] awesome ! [13:50] :D [13:50] tedg, the shell can just listen for the signal eh? [13:50] mterry, It could, but then it'd have to connect to the system bus, which it might not be doing. [13:51] bfiller, tedg: I guess that would work, I’m not convinced that it’s an elegant solution though, and we’d need alex_abreu’s opinion too [13:51] mterry, If there's nothing there, it's probably as easy to add either way, but if it already exists on the session bus. [13:51] tedg, oh it is already for other stuff [13:51] tedg, on another topic, is there a bug for the lack of icons? [13:51] oSoMoN: open to other ideas as well if you have them [13:52] mardy: actually yours went on as of yesterday... have you ran autopilot tests? [13:52]