[00:45] fez is gooooood [00:46] completely crazy though [07:00] morning all [07:01] yo [07:03] \o [07:06] o/ [07:30] ahoy === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | IRC stats: http://tinyurl.com/uukstat | next meeting TBA | ubuntu [07:40] great podcast/hangout last night popey :) [07:41] "podout" [07:42] (hangcast sounds too macabre) [07:46] thanks MartijnVdS [07:47] popey: I'm old-school, I wait for the mp3 ;) [07:47] having problems with that! [07:47] :( [07:47] It's on my iHP-140 which just locked up [07:48] that's not good [07:48] its annoying [07:48] i wanted to merge the audio from that with the MP4 from youtube [07:48] now I need to wait for the battery to die [07:48] or take it apart and disconnect battery [07:49] popey: you're not alone with "un-cooperative hardware": http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1309.1/01669.html [07:52] yay, got it apart [07:57] balls [07:57] can't power down without removing drive [07:57] popey: does that thing not have a hard reset button? [07:57] no [07:58] long press something perhaps? [07:58] no [07:59] popey: is it this one? http://ec1.images-amazon.com/media/i3d/01/A/man-migrate/MANUAL000043279.pdf [07:59] popey: because that has a "reset" hole next to the USB port [07:59] so it does [07:59] yay [07:59] but that might be factory reset [07:59] that was easy [08:00] thanks chaps [08:00] np! [08:00] the problem I had previously was it wouldn't show up as a usb device [08:03] BAH! [08:03] won't mount [08:04] wonder if I can remove the disk and read it in a pc [08:05] popey: if not, you could at least run photorec against it to recover any files with known headers on there [08:05] popey: (image it first!) [08:06] dunno what the on-disk format is though [08:09] need an adapter [08:18] popey: do you have a picture of the connector? (or do you already know what it is) [08:21] it's a 1.8" IDE [08:21] http://www.amazon.co.uk/USB-1-8-HARD-DRIVE-ADAPTER/dp/B004351F7K [08:21] looks a bit like CompactFlash [08:23] oh, looks like it is [08:23] i forsee a trip to maplin [08:24] bah, they dont sell them === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [08:35] You've really gotto love X. I'm in the office and I needed to see some emails from an old pop account that is only configured on my home desktop. [08:35] So I ssh'd -X to my home server, sent a wakeonlan to my desktop, ssh -X to my desktop, start Thunderbird. It then magically appears on my display in the office :-) [08:35] I hope all the Wayland/Mir stuff doesn't break this functionality. [08:35] Good morning all, happy Video Games Day! :-D [08:42] Good morning peeps :) [08:43] JamesTait: oooh, good time to re-play FEZ then :D [08:45] bigcalm, I'd say it'd be a good day to play minetest with the boys, but that happens most days in some form or another anyway. ;) [08:45] Hehe [08:45] What's minetest? [08:46] bigcalm, like Minecraft, but FLOSS. [08:46] minetest? oooo /me goes looking [08:47] http://minetest.net/ [08:47] It's in the archive, but IIRC it's quite an old version before saucy - it's getting some pretty serious development at the moment, so it's worth installing it from the PPA. [08:54] good morning everyone. [09:20] popey: mele f10 is in my hands [09:20] Delivery estimate was 4th -> 22nd October [09:22] heh [09:26] popey: when the drive is in the iHP, is it detected (does /dev/sdX show up) and does mounting fail? [09:26] popey: or doesn't it show up at all? [09:26] nothing in dmesg [09:27] does the device work at all? [09:27] yes [09:27] powers up, and if attached goes into USB mode [09:27] have you tried wiggling the USB cable/port? Might be a loose contact in there [09:28] can it play the file? (you could get it out the old-fashioned way, with analog cables etc.) [09:29] could do [09:54] TheOpenSourcerer: nice. I should learn how to do this at some point... :D ( I assume certain things need "turning on" [09:55] jussi: Nope. [09:55] just run ssh -X user@host [09:55] TheOpenSourcerer: it just works out of the box ? [09:55] yeah [09:55] Yes! [09:55] Absolutely brilliant [09:55] And you can chain [09:55] * jussi tests [09:56] ssh -X me@host1, ssh -X me@host 2 [09:56] Then run a GTK type app on the remote host [09:56] And watch the magic ;-) [09:57] Well presumably as Wayland/Mir need to act as X servers for legacy apps anyway, that *should* keep working [09:57] Weel, as I said earlier I bloody well hope so. [09:58] I would be pretty annoyed if it stopped working too [09:58] s/weel/well [10:02] hey, wait... its a funky funky funkyHat!!! [10:02] Hiya Matt :D [10:03] it does appear to work [10:03] although, gtk apps, I not sure if I have those installed... [10:07] TheOpenSourcerer: http://wayland.freedesktop.org/faq.html "Is Wayland network transparent / does it support remote rendering?" [10:07] dunno if that answers your question [10:07] Hi jussi ⢁) [10:09] "This doesn't mean that remote rendering won't be possible with Wayland, it just means that you will have to put a remote rendering server on top of Wayland. One such server could be the X.org server, but other options include an RDP server, a VNC server or somebody could even invent their own new remote rendering model." [10:09] so basically, the feature wont disappear, but I guess it will be still provided with X [10:11] if you have x [10:13] due to the way wayland works, it won't matter what client you use for remote rendering: since they'll all have to do screen scraping, they'll all be as awful as VNC, even if the protocol happens to be X11 [10:15] ali1234: unless you run an X server locally on top of wayland and can forward that through ssh, I presume [10:15] yes, that should work okay [10:16] the problem is what happens when you try to forward an app that only supports wayland [10:16] anything that supports X11 will continue to work fine [10:24] Sheesh, people had to vote on this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24040130 wonder what it looks like in the water [10:30] I wonder what it tastes like [10:30] monkfish is both ugly and delicious [10:31] so maybe similar to that [10:31] O M G http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1924/baconwrapped-monkfish [10:32] Bacon really is magical food === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:14] neuro: who is it that owns Scolocate? I'm sure it's either iomart or Pulsant, and suspect Pulsant, but can you remember? [12:15] pulsant [12:15] yes, the company who got booted out of scolocate 8 years ago now owns scolocate [12:15] heh, I didn't know they got booted out [12:16] why was that? [12:17] cos they built their own dc ;) [12:17] ah [12:17] I thought it was going to be an interesting reason [12:27] mgdm: there may have been more interesting reasons that i wasn't privy to, but that was the main gist [12:27] lumison turned from a customer to a competitor [12:28] ah [12:56] happy birthday JamesTait [12:57] Oh no, it's escaped! [12:58] Thank you popey. It's a vicious rumour though. I don't think I have a birthday. [13:02] JamesTait: you kept that one quiet by informing us of play games day [13:02] JamesTait: and happy birthday [13:02] It's also Cycle to Work day! === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:02] JamesTait: but that's 2.5 hours each way! [13:02] I would, if I didn't work from home [13:02] bigcalm, me too. :) [13:03] I might cycle to work a few days a week for my new job [13:03] next month [13:03] Morning all [13:03] MartijnVdS, better get on yer bike then! :-P [13:03] I cycle as much as I can, it's about 5 miles each way. [13:03] * JamesTait looks at davmor2, then at his clock, then back at davmor2. [13:04] davmor2, you're just trying to confuse me, aren't you? [13:04] Hi davmor2 [13:04] JamesTait: he's on Boston time, or something [13:04] Bostin' time? ;) [13:04] JamesTait: the qa team are in a sprint at lexington so I'm on there timezone this week incase I'm needed for anything [13:05] there or their? [13:05] [13:05] davmor2, a simple "yes" would have sufficed. ;) [13:05] "Thank you for your information, citizen" [13:06] MartijnVdS: their [13:06] JamesTait: Yes I do it deliberately to confuse you really :D [13:06] I knew it! [13:07] So when am I having my elevenses today? [13:08] eleventy o'clock [13:11] * JamesTait sets his alarm, just in case. [13:33] A bit late for 11es now [13:33] JamesTait: when I knock off at 11pm? [13:34] JamesTait: you might want to change it's name to supper though :D [13:34] davmor2, I'll be thinking of you. ;) [13:48] * TheOpenSourcerer thinks we should change teen numbers to match the rest, i.e. tenty, tentyone, tentytwo etc... [13:48] That's numberwang! [13:48] lol [13:51] moodoo: Have you read the Reddit thread explaining the rules? [13:51] moodoo: http://www.reddit.com/r/britishproblems/comments/1jvgn6/i_said_numberwang_to_the_pet_shop_cashier_when_my/cbioq86 [13:52] I think /r/britishproblems/ is my favourite subreddit at the moment. [13:52] dwatkins: there's also /r/britishsuccess [13:52] dwatkins: and /r/cgpgrey :P [13:55] MartijnVdS: that's awesome === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [14:37] moodoo: MartijnVdS: man you guys talking about rules just made me Lose the game [14:40] well that's numberwang === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:18] * SuperEngineer hopes he has twotenty twotenty vision if he lives to tentytenty [15:22] eleventy!!!111one!1!!1!1! [15:23] dwatkins: not even Bender would try to make people believe that was possible! [15:24] !Futurama [15:25] [time to add an entry to lubotto!] [15:32] yes [15:39] /msg nickserv dispense [15:40] hey [15:40] Ladies and Gents - good afternonn === SavageWolf_ is now known as SavageWolf [16:07] Anyone know where MySQL startup messages go now that it's apparently not to stdout or daemon.log? [16:09] aha! /var/log/mysql/error.log === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === GentileBen is now known as RaycisCharles === RaycisCharles is now known as CrispinOnTheCan [18:22] thankyou scrollback for making me lose the game === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [18:35] people still go on about that? Oh dear. [18:41] moo [18:43] morning [18:49] hi [18:49] mgdm: the game has no finish [18:49] yeah i never got that game bs, ridiculous idea imo [18:49] daftykins: yet you still lose it [18:49] seeing friends pretending to care... *shakes head* [18:50] that's just an attempt for said losers to try and draw others into their bs :) [18:50] lol [18:50] sorry, got a bit rude there [18:50] but i feel very strongly about that one :P [18:50] you're just annoyed that you lost :-p [18:51] don't make me come over there! [18:57] didn't zimbra used to belong to vmware? when did that change? [18:58] maybe it passed you by whilst you were playing the game :( [18:58] * daftykins ducks [18:58] :D [18:58] nah i thought that === CrispinOnTheCan is now known as GentileBen [20:23] diddledan: a couple of weeks ago [21:57] directhex: that indiegogo thing is priceless [21:57] (well, not quite, about $7600 it seems, but I didn't pay it)