[19:21] <adom> So I was just looking more into the Ubuntu Global Jam. Is there an event in DC tomorrow? I see one in Ohio and Michigan, but no other ones in US. :/
[19:21] <adom> reference: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2315/
[19:29] <marcoceppi> adom: you could start one
[19:29] <marcoceppi> I'd go
[19:29] <adom> I feel far from confident enough to host/collaborate one. If someone else were to initiate the event/meeting, I'd join.
[19:30] <adom> What kind of stuff do you do at one anyway?
[19:30] <adom> Do we all just hang out and geek out about Ubuntu?
[19:30] <marcoceppi> adom: typically you pick stuff to jam on, like documentation, translations, patches, support
[19:31] <marcoceppi> adom: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[19:32] <marcoceppi> adom: there's something for everyone!
[19:33] <marcoceppi> adom: I work at home, so I don't know of any venues, but we could just tell people to meet us at X bar, restaraunt, shop, cafe, etc
[19:33] <adom> marcoceppi: That seems like a possibility.
[19:34] <adom> does anyone have any topics that they think would be good talking points for the meetup?
[19:34] <adom> There isn't much documentation that I'm psyched to talk about. Just sayin. ;)
[19:35] <marcoceppi> adom: no so much talk about, but to do. A jam is just a hackathon. Get together (or don't, you can just jam from home) and work on stuff for Ubuntu
[19:35] <marcoceppi> chat about Ubuntu, stuff like that
[19:36] <marcoceppi> it's not as formal as presentations, etc
[19:36] <adom> ahh
[19:37] <adom> I'm not using Unity, but I might be able to add some wiki documentation on using Ubuntu with gnome+cairo-dock...
[19:37]  * adom is trying to think of other things he could possibly contribute to Ubuntu...
[19:37] <adom> open to ideas
[19:38] <marcoceppi> adom: there's code patches, you can spend some time in #ubuntu on freenode or askubuntu answering questions, you can try translating if you know another language, helping with bugs
[19:39] <adom> i guess even if there's nothing i can contribute in means of code, patches, etc. it would still be an opportunity to meet other linux geeks like me.
[19:39] <adom> ChinnoDog: meeting opportunity ^
[19:40] <ChinnoDog> Huh? What are we doing now?
[19:42] <adom> thinking about meeting up tomorrow to celebrate Ubuntu Global Jam.
[19:42] <adom> still debating
[19:43] <adom> marcoceppi: where-abouts are you located? if we meet up, we might as well make it easy to get to for those involved.
[19:44] <adom> im down in Woodbridge, but I work in Manassas, so if I come in after work tomorrow, I'd probably drive into DC.
[19:44] <marcoceppi> adom: I'm in Falls Church, but anything dc metro is fine for me
[19:45] <adom> I keep forgetting where ChinnoDog lives, but I remember it being West of the city as well.
[19:45] <ChinnoDog> What do we do at Jam?
[19:45] <marcoceppi> ChinnoDog: just, ubuntu stuff
[19:45] <marcoceppi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[19:45] <ChinnoDog> I live near the Dunn Loring metro station
[19:46] <marcoceppi> testing, bugs, support, patches, translations, whatever you can
[19:46] <adom> anyone know the closest metro station to Manassas?
[19:46] <marcoceppi> ChinnoDog: oh cool, I live at the Mosaic District, where the new Target is
[19:46] <marcoceppi> adom: Vienna station probably
[19:47] <ChinnoDog> So, you are half a mile from me? How ironic. haha
[19:47] <marcoceppi> ChinnoDog: hah, yeah
[19:47] <ChinnoDog> I go down there all the time
[19:48] <marcoceppi> ChinnoDog: yeah, I'm in the apartments above the Chipotle
[19:48] <ChinnoDog> adom: Vienna is closes metro station but you can take VRE depending on timing / distance to you.
[19:49] <ChinnoDog> marcoceppi: I go to that Chipotle a lot...
[19:50] <ChinnoDog> And I go to the theater for their free stuff on Sundays sometimes.
[19:50] <marcoceppi> ChinnoDog: hah, I think I found the next location for a physical ubuntu-us-dc meeting ;)
[19:50] <ChinnoDog> I was thinking I might watch Breaking Bad there this Sunday instead of getting it on Amazon on Monday.
[19:52] <ChinnoDog> That Chipotle is kind of small and noisy to be a venue
[19:52] <adom> marcoceppi: we could meet somewhere near you guys tomorrow? I'm coming from Manassas, so I'd be going right through that area.
[19:53] <adom> ChinnoDog: good point
[19:53] <adom> you guys know that area better than me obviously, any ideas on other meeting areas?
[19:53] <adom> can be small. looks like just us 3, maybe a couple addons possible i guess.
[19:54] <ChinnoDog> Blackfinn is probably ok when it isn't busy but tomorrow is Friday
[19:54] <adom> oh, also, i politely request for a place that serves beer.
[19:55] <adom> really just need a place that we can share a table big enough for a few laptops. would be nice to have a quiet spot to chat.
[19:55] <ChinnoDog> Lost Dog cafe has good beer selection. Not sure about volume level. I usually don't eat in.
[19:56] <ChinnoDog> idk if they have any wifi though
[19:56] <adom> oh yeah, forgot about wifi
[19:57] <adom> i could do it on my phone, but i downloaded a lot of torrents on it this month and im almost at my limit, which resets on the 15th, TWO DAYS AWAY SO CLOSE
[19:57] <adom> if we hit the limit, it'd get throttled at near-dialup speeds, which would suck for us.
[19:59] <marcoceppi> adom: I've got unlimited we can tether with
[19:59] <ChinnoDog> Yelp says they a have Wifi
[20:00] <ChinnoDog> I can always walk over there and check
[20:01] <ChinnoDog> I am trying to remember what other venues there are around the Chipotle. There is that gelato place but I don't recall them having any real seating.
[20:02] <ChinnoDog> There is Matchbox but that is expensive
[20:02] <ChinnoDog> There is the Vietnamese place. We could sit outside.
[20:04] <ChinnoDog> oh. I don't think the Vietnamese place has beer
[20:04] <ChinnoDog> That is all I have for ideas. There is another place I know of nearby but it isn't metro accessible.
[20:11] <adom> well, it doesnt necessarily need to be metro accessible; you two live nearby within walking distance it sounds like, and ill be driving.
[20:11] <adom> i was only considering taking metro if we're meeting inside the city
[20:12] <adom> and we probably shouldn't do an outside venue. weather could change (like it just did here in Manassas, its pouring right now), and also other small things like places to plug in laptops, screen glare from sun, etc.
[20:12] <adom> just thinking ahead
[20:13] <ChinnoDog> idk if any of the mentioned places have outlets.
[20:15] <adom> which lost dog cafe were you referring to ChinnoDog?
[20:15] <adom> Dunn Loring? they have locations in north and south arlington as well.
[20:16] <marcoceppi> Vietnamese place has beer
[20:18] <adom> im liking the lost dog cafe place, just because they support animal rescues...looking at their site, looks like there's one they're affiliated with
[20:18] <ChinnoDog> Does Vietnamese place have outlets though?
[20:43] <marcoceppi> adom: ChinnoDog lost dog sounds good to me
[20:43] <ChinnoDog> k, lost dog it is.
[20:43]  * ChinnoDog begins Ubuntu install on new laptop
[20:44] <ChinnoDog> ok, maybe it will be Mint instead of Ubuntu. hehe
[20:46]  * adom likes ChinnoDog's style.
[20:47] <adom> I used Mint for a long time. Just recently I switched to crunchbang for a bit, then decided I still preferred Ubuntu over Debian, so installed Ubuntu 13.04.
[20:47] <adom> Using cairo-dock rather than Unity. :/
[20:47] <adom> Mint is great tho
[20:48] <ChinnoDog> I used cairo-dock for awhile but decided it had too many shortcomings
[20:48] <ChinnoDog> I am really a Windows user (shhhh) and I just got this laptop. I am installing Mint into a VM.
[21:09] <ChinnoDog> This is going to be fun. lol
[21:09] <ChinnoDog> I set up this computer to boot using UEFI but Hyper-V doesn't support UEFI boot
[21:10] <ChinnoDog> And since I am installing Ubuntu onto an Expresscard SSD it probably isn't visible to the bootloader... if I can even configure it to boot to an MBR
[21:11]  * ChinnoDog presses his luck
[21:12]  * marcoceppi is glad his employer let's him use Ubuntu
[21:13] <ChinnoDog> I have too much Windows stuff I need to do to run Ubuntu as main OS
[21:13] <marcoceppi> ChinnoDog: good luck with uefi stuff
[21:13] <ChinnoDog> I'm trying to perfect the Ubuntu-in-Windows model of computing.
[21:13] <ChinnoDog> Dual boot would be nice but not absolutely necessary
[21:14] <marcoceppi> cool
[21:16] <adom> I wish my employer allowed me to use Linux for work.
[21:17] <adom> ChinnoDog: I genuinely prefer Linux over Windows for day-to-day use. Its installed on my home desktop. I still think Windows is required for the best gaming experience, but my current desktop isn't anything special, so I can't run new games anyway. Currently playing Minecraft, WoW, and a bunch of Steam games on my ubuntu desktop at home and all run super smooth.
[21:19] <adom> I hate dual-booting, because you have to reboot the PC just for some important things. I'm not much of a fan of using a VM frequently either. If you want to run Ubuntu in Windows, one way of getting something like that would be to use Cygwin as your terminal in Windows...it lets you use Linux commands and packages in Windows.
[21:19] <adom> its only a linux command line obviosly, no gui. but it'd be a way to use awesome linux commands in Windows. kind of the best of both worlds.
[21:20] <adom> ChinnoDog: let me know the shortcomings in cairo-dock you had problems with, i want to see if they're issues for me as well
[21:20] <ChinnoDog> Dual booting would be nice if I want the performance and resources of booting without Windows, but 99% of the time I would rather have my Windows available to me.
[21:26] <ChinnoDog> I do not think my plan is going to work
[21:26] <ChinnoDog> I am going to abandon it before I spend many hours banging my head against my desk
[21:42] <adom> i remember my ASUS EEE pc netbook would boot Ubuntu off the SD card slot like a charm. Had Ubuntu 10.04 install on a microSD card in the SD card slot, and Windows 7 on the hard drive.
[21:43] <adom> Loved that EEE pc. The ONLY reason I sold it was because it was JUST too small to use on my lap comfortably. I had to hold my legs together touching if I didn't want it to fall off.
[21:43] <ChinnoDog> EEE pc was designed to work around storage technology limitations though
[21:43] <adom> everything else about it was awesome. 8hr battery, 802.11n, etc.
[21:43] <adom> oh
[21:43] <adom> had no idea
[21:45] <adom> i get so angry when i see parents/students buying $1900 Macbooks for freshmen year of college. You can use a $350 netbook instead and you would have NO problems through all of college/university.
[21:45] <ChinnoDog> There is some irony in the way that Microsoft has locked down Windows 8. It is becoming so difficult and time consuming to do things in the UI that I have decided I am going to start doing everything at the Powershell prompt
[21:45] <adom> the best part is that those $1900 are just used forFacebook and Frostwire and iTunes.
[21:45] <ChinnoDog> I intend to do the same in Ubuntu
[21:45] <adom> ha that is a bit ironic
[21:45] <adom> and funny
[21:46]  * adom has yet to use Win8 for more than 10 minutes.
[21:46] <ChinnoDog> You can't disable UAC in Win8 or Metro apps don't work!
[21:46]  * ChinnoDog shakes fist at Uncle Bill
[21:46] <ChinnoDog> Oh sorry. That is a Windows guy joke. I'm sure you get it though.
[21:49] <adom> I refuse to get it.
[21:49] <adom> on principle
[21:49] <ChinnoDog> haha