mazal | maaz tell ThatGraemeGuy I investigated quickly running root cronjobs and will test from tonight | 06:35 |
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Maaz | mazal: Okay, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode | 06:35 |
Kilos | morning all of ya | 06:45 |
Kilos | hi DeonP | 06:49 |
DeonP | hi Kilos | 06:50 |
mazal | More oom Kilos ,DeonP | 06:57 |
Kilos | môre mazal | 06:58 |
ThatGraemeGuy | mornings | 06:58 |
Maaz | ThatGraemeGuy: By the way, mazal on freenode told me "tell ThatGraemeGuy I investigated quickly running root cronjobs and will test from tonight" 23 minutes and 20 seconds ago | 06:58 |
ThatGraemeGuy | mazal: good stuff :) | 06:59 |
Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 06:59 |
mazal | Kilos, my schedules wget worked last night. This morning I had the iso :-) | 06:59 |
Kilos | is it one hand counting yet? | 06:59 |
Kilos | lekker i love wget | 07:00 |
ThatGraemeGuy | yes indeed, 5 more work days! :) | 07:00 |
Kilos | especially with a dicey internet | 07:00 |
Kilos | hehe getting excited | 07:00 |
mazal | Tonight gonna let the server iso dl and start trying the root cron job for updates as well | 07:03 |
superfly | good morning | 07:03 |
Kilos | ohi superfly | 07:03 |
Kilos | looked last night with the pro. it wants to update daily | 07:04 |
Kilos | i only do update/upgrade when data is full | 07:04 |
Kilos | so cron and i arent buddies | 07:04 |
Kilos | nothing worse than planning data use to last 2 months and an upgrade finishes you in 1.5 months | 07:06 |
mazal | You can schedule cron for only Fridays or only certain days of the month Kilos | 07:09 |
Kilos | ill leave it till i one day get uncapped adsl | 07:11 |
Kilos | head too full of lpi and other stuff | 07:11 |
Kilos | i go feed sheep | 07:13 |
Kilos | hi Xethron zeref | 07:39 |
zeref | hi Kilos | 07:41 |
Kilos | got a funny error while booting this morning i/o error Zram0 | 07:44 |
Kilos | whatever that might be. everything is working fine | 07:44 |
Kilos | did memory test and no probs shown | 07:44 |
Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 07:48 |
Vince-0 | Hi | 07:55 |
zeref | tumbleweed: I'm trying to build a deb package to run only on python3, I followed http://www.wefearchange.org/2012/01/debian-package-for-python-2-and-3.html to package for python 3. | 08:07 |
zeref | after i install the package, I get a from urllib.request import Request, urlopen | 08:07 |
zeref | ImportError: No module named request | 08:07 |
zeref | aah | 08:07 |
Kilos | hi bduk | 08:08 |
zeref | http://pastebin.com/2pEB2GLA | 08:08 |
zeref | but if the test the application using python3 *.py it works? | 08:10 |
zeref | any idea why? | 08:10 |
mazal | Does anybody know , on 12.04LTS UbuntuOne , how do you see the last files that was synced ? On 13.04 the applet shows it , but 12.04's version doesn't have that applet | 08:23 |
Kilos | ai! | 08:29 |
magespawn | good morning | 08:32 |
Kilos | hi magespawn you getting there hey | 08:32 |
magespawn | today i am at the shop closing it up and organising the last few service pc's out the door | 08:44 |
Kilos | ah i thought youd sorted irc at work | 08:51 |
magespawn | yes i logged on from there yesterday | 08:57 |
bduk | Morning everyone | 09:03 |
tumbleweed | zeref: are you sure you are *actually* using python3 ? | 09:24 |
tumbleweed | zeref: in fact, from that traceback, you definitely are using python2.7 | 09:26 |
tumbleweed | zeref: packaging for Python 2 & 3 just got a *lot* easier, that howto is out of date. | 09:26 |
tumbleweed | man pybuild | 09:26 |
magespawn | bduk: hi | 09:53 |
Squirm | hi | 10:00 |
magespawn | hey Squirm | 10:31 |
Squirm | hi there magespawn | 10:42 |
Squirm | rather quiet today | 10:42 |
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magespawn | yup | 10:44 |
magespawn | and i am now off too | 10:44 |
Squirm | almost lunch for me | 10:46 |
zeref | tumbleweed: thanks. working now | 10:48 |
charl | good afternoon | 11:55 |
charl | Maaz: coffee on | 11:56 |
* Maaz puts the kettle on | 11:56 | |
superfly | andrewlsd: ping | 11:59 |
Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 12:00 |
charl | Maaz: thanks | 12:00 |
Maaz | charl: Sure | 12:00 |
charl | this is hilarious: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTjtDjCCMAA_N_M.jpg:large | 12:00 |
andrewlsd | superfly: pong | 12:21 |
superfly | andrewlsd: private message | 12:22 |
Kilos | bbl | 14:31 |
DeonP | folks l2tp client problem sorted!! :D | 14:44 |
ThatGraemeGuy | superfly: you bought those kitkats locally? | 14:50 |
andrewlsd | ^^ -- also keen to find that out. | 14:55 |
inetpro | DeonP: well done | 15:17 |
inetpro | now please document and share what you did for the benefit of others | 15:17 |
magespawn | later all | 15:22 |
kbmonkey | hello | 16:31 |
Kilos | abend | 16:43 |
kbmonkey | hallo Kilos | 16:43 |
kbmonkey | sorry I got dc'd last night | 16:44 |
Kilos | ahi kbmonkey | 16:44 |
kbmonkey | disconnected | 16:44 |
Kilos | np ian fixed | 16:44 |
Kilos | or was last night | 16:44 |
Kilos | havent heard again | 16:44 |
kbmonkey | he fixed it? wow amazing | 16:45 |
Kilos | SilverCode, code us to run plasma-desktop from cli and it worked | 16:46 |
Kilos | told | 16:46 |
kbmonkey | nice | 16:46 |
kbmonkey | of course only someone with KDE experience could have helped :] | 16:46 |
Kilos | id akready got him to install all plasma stuff i got in kde and kubuntu-full and just that running in cli let it get going | 16:47 |
Kilos | weird hey | 16:47 |
kbmonkey | yes, it is curious | 16:49 |
Kilos | hi psychicist | 16:51 |
psychicist | hi Kilos | 16:52 |
Kilos | first class tomorrow night kbmonkey | 16:53 |
kbmonkey | Kilos, thanks! | 16:54 |
kbmonkey | i need to make a reminder | 16:54 |
kbmonkey | damn I'm hungry | 16:54 |
Kilos | hehe | 16:54 |
kbmonkey | been working late this week | 16:54 |
kbmonkey | its not fun | 16:54 |
Kilos | get tins of gold dish curry vegetables | 16:54 |
Kilos | top off and eat | 16:54 |
kbmonkey | ew gross. no i like fresh food | 16:55 |
Kilos | they very lekker | 16:55 |
kbmonkey | I'll go make burgers just now | 16:55 |
kbmonkey | ;P | 16:55 |
Kilos | thats not as healthy | 16:55 |
Kilos | curry is very healthy | 16:55 |
kbmonkey | if you think that you have not had a monkey burger! | 16:55 |
Kilos | ah | 16:55 |
kbmonkey | lol! | 16:55 |
kbmonkey | I am amazed at how large these games are today. it blows my mind! | 17:06 |
kbmonkey | the guys at work talk about this game they play, battlefield or something. the updates are like 20+GB | 17:06 |
kbmonkey | What The Heck! | 17:06 |
Symmetria | sup ;p | 17:06 |
Kilos | wow | 17:06 |
Kilos | hi Symmetria | 17:06 |
Symmetria | so remeber a while back when I left tenet there was talking about me moving to kenya? :) | 17:06 |
Symmetria | seems like thats finally gonna happen | 17:07 |
Symmetria | ;p | 17:07 |
kbmonkey | nice Symmetria | 17:07 |
kbmonkey | gonna go see some lions | 17:07 |
Symmetria | kbmonkey lol game updates are huge | 17:07 |
Symmetria | world of warcraft updatres are a coupla gig each time | 17:07 |
kbmonkey | I just got my data bundle doubled, and that is like still 5 times my limit, | 17:07 |
Symmetria | heh, got offered a job that Im almost certainly gonna take, the money and the position, I'd be nuts not to accept | 17:08 |
Symmetria | just trying to negotiate a bit because I figure anyone who comes with a first offer like that, is probably prepared to go higher ;p | 17:09 |
kbmonkey | indeed! | 17:09 |
Symmetria | very odd tax rules as well about being an expat | 17:09 |
Symmetria | did you know that if you are outta the country for a full month without coming back, and in total you are outta the country for 183 days in a tax year | 17:09 |
Symmetria | all foreign earnings are tax exempt in .za | 17:10 |
Symmetria | which means, if you're working in say kenya, but you're being paid by a third country, like mauritius, technically you aren't working in kenya, so you arent taxed there | 17:10 |
Symmetria | you are never in the third country so you arent taxed there | 17:10 |
Symmetria | and you arent taxable in south africa because its all tax exempt foreign earnings | 17:10 |
Symmetria | meaning, you're tax free | 17:10 |
Symmetria | ;p | 17:11 |
Symmetria | how awesome is thar | 17:11 |
Symmetria | that | 17:11 |
DeonP | Kilos!!! :) | 17:12 |
DeonP | its working | 17:12 |
Kilos | hi DeonP | 17:12 |
Kilos | what did you do | 17:12 |
Kilos | make notes | 17:12 |
Kilos | well done | 17:12 |
DeonP | routing probs i did :) | 17:13 |
DeonP | its the simple things that always get you lol | 17:13 |
kbmonkey | good work DeonP ! | 17:13 |
kbmonkey | Im off to gomake some gains | 17:13 |
Symmetria | lol routing issues arent always simple though :) | 17:14 |
Kilos | hehe | 17:14 |
DeonP | boss is happy, now we can host his website and email in house | 17:14 |
Symmetria | why would he want to do that :0 | 17:14 |
Kilos | cool | 17:14 |
Symmetria | hosting websites at home is scary :) no proper infrastructure at most houses | 17:14 |
Symmetria | oh you mean inside the company | 17:15 |
DeonP | save money :) for now, new buiseness and money is tight, VERY tight | 17:15 |
Symmetria | yah that makes sense if you have the bandwidth for it :) | 17:15 |
* Symmetria tries to figure out his travel schedule | 17:15 | |
DeonP | dont need too much bandwidth, and he's got proper uncapped adsl | 17:15 |
Symmetria | lol, so, on friday I left home and was asked when I would be back, so I was like, not 100% sure, but I figured a week or 2 | 17:15 |
Symmetria | flew to mauritius, and lol, just found out before I get home, I gotta first go via mombassa, nairobi, kampala and kigali | 17:16 |
Symmetria | and chances are by the time Im done with that, I'll have to go somewhere else ;p | 17:16 |
* Symmetria is making it home for a week outta every 10 at the moment | 17:16 | |
DeonP | ok folks i'm off to have a rest lol will do a write-up on setting up xl2tpd on isp for fixed ip | 17:16 |
Kilos | poor dog | 17:16 |
Kilos | havva good rest DeonP | 17:17 |
Symmetria | lol doggy is harassing my parents who look after her :) she loves them anyway | 17:17 |
DeonP | pretty simple once you know how lol | 17:17 |
DeonP | ty chat tomorrow | 17:17 |
Kilos | ok | 17:17 |
Symmetria | hrm, wait, he's running l2tpd on linux? interesting, wonder if that v2 or v3 | 17:18 |
Kilos | haha hes been battling some days | 17:18 |
Symmetria | lol I made my clients ceo very happy today, I managed to make his mac print to one of those giant xerox workcentre printers | 17:19 |
Kilos | ask him tomorrow | 17:19 |
Symmetria | and apparently no one else had been able to do that in weeks because no one else uses mac ;p | 17:19 |
Symmetria | (it took me all of 30 seconds) | 17:20 |
Trixar_za | Righto | 17:32 |
Trixar_za | It's fun compiling the kernel | 17:32 |
Trixar_za | Like creating a frankenstein monster | 17:32 |
Kilos | hehe | 17:36 |
Trixar_za | Finally got buildroot to work like I want | 17:37 |
Trixar_za | So I'm pretty happy | 17:37 |
Kilos | good | 17:37 |
Trixar_za | Does seem to take a while to build though | 17:50 |
Kilos | how long you been busy on it now? | 17:50 |
magespawn | maybe we could also let DeonP know about that free hosting in the cape | 17:51 |
magespawn | woops | 17:51 |
Kilos | what free hosting the one that was on facebook? | 17:52 |
Kilos | hehe | 17:52 |
magespawn | no that other company with the solar powered data center | 17:52 |
Kilos | why didnt you tell me too | 17:52 |
* Kilos cries | 17:53 | |
Trixar_za | about 27 minutes | 17:53 |
magespawn | see now i am back, bet you guys did not know who was speaking | 17:53 |
magespawn | thought we did Kilos | 17:53 |
Trixar_za | But it's to be expected | 17:53 |
* magespawn goes to google name | 17:53 | |
Trixar_za | Free hosting in the cape? | 17:54 |
Squirm | magespawn: Teraco | 17:58 |
Squirm | Trixar_za: afaik you need to own the server though, they'll just host it | 17:58 |
Trixar_za | Ah | 17:58 |
Trixar_za | I wish I owned a server | 17:58 |
Trixar_za | :P | 17:58 |
Squirm | HP Proliant Microsever going for R1300 ex :( | 17:59 |
magespawn | no this was free website hosting | 17:59 |
Squirm | 2.2Ghz AMD Dual Core, 2Gb RAM, 250Gb hdd | 17:59 |
Squirm | obviously the small form factor is cool. can also take 4 hdds in total and up to 8Gb RAM | 17:59 |
Squirm | afaik they also have a 150W psu | 18:00 |
Kilos | Squirm, explain that to me please | 18:00 |
Squirm | Kilos: which ? | 18:00 |
Kilos | if you own the server do you take it to them? | 18:01 |
Kilos | i dont savvy the hosting thing | 18:01 |
Squirm | Kilos: I figure so. I'd also think it'd have to be a Rackmount | 18:01 |
Squirm | Kilos: in a data center, you'll have a steady internet connection and there should be no downtime | 18:02 |
Kilos | oh ok so you take them your hardware and they run it for you | 18:02 |
Squirm | that's why hosting is good | 18:02 |
Kilos | magespawn, find it man | 18:02 |
Kilos | i still want a host for my bot | 18:03 |
magespawn | patience | 18:03 |
Kilos | lol | 18:03 |
Kilos | you got no more uncapped now with shop closed? | 18:03 |
Squirm | we host our own MX and up until a few months ago our website too. but when we moved our site off-site, we got a backup mx from dyndns. so none of our mail fails, we just only receive it when we come online | 18:03 |
magespawn | this is website not bot hosting | 18:03 |
Squirm | magespawn: shop closed | 18:03 |
Squirm | ? | 18:03 |
magespawn | still have adsl | 18:04 |
magespawn | yup from the end of the month | 18:04 |
Squirm | oh wow | 18:04 |
Kilos | magespawn, gotta IT job Squirm | 18:05 |
magespawn | https://www.cybersmart.co.za/hosting.cgi | 18:05 |
Kilos | where you been | 18:05 |
Squirm | that's cool magespawn. where abouts? | 18:05 |
magespawn | Bonamanzi | 18:06 |
magespawn | just down the road | 18:06 |
Squirm | ooh | 18:06 |
magespawn | Kilos: you might be able to host a bot here https://www.openshift.com/ | 18:07 |
Kilos | lemme look | 18:07 |
Kilos | eish redhat | 18:09 |
mazal | Naand oom | 18:09 |
Kilos | oh i could alien ibid | 18:09 |
Squirm | Kilos: I'll stand by RedHat | 18:10 |
Kilos | naand mazal | 18:10 |
Squirm | cheers mazal | 18:10 |
mazal | Hi and bye Squirm | 18:10 |
Kilos | no man goeie naand | 18:10 |
Squirm | is it still good if it's cold and misty outside? | 18:10 |
Kilos | lol | 18:11 |
mazal | Yes | 18:11 |
Squirm | Outside Temperature12.4°C | 18:11 |
Squirm | Wind Chill12.4°C | 18:11 |
Squirm | Heat Index12.4°C | 18:11 |
Squirm | Dewpoint10.6°C | 18:11 |
Squirm | Humidity89% | 18:11 |
mazal | Then you can over-induldge in indoor activities | 18:11 |
Squirm | Since Midnight | 18:11 |
Squirm | High Temperature | 18:11 |
Squirm | Low Temperature 13.9°C at 15:49 | 18:11 |
Squirm | 7.7°C at 01:16 | 18:11 |
Squirm | we had a high of 13.9 today | 18:11 |
Squirm | and yes, I set up a weather staion yesterday | 18:12 |
mazal | brb washing calls | 18:12 |
Kilos | squirm go see how to install ibib there | 18:13 |
Kilos | once working ill maintain it if necessary | 18:13 |
Kilos | ibid | 18:13 |
Kilos | i see they show python | 18:13 |
Kilos | would one need to convert a .deb to a rpm | 18:14 |
Squirm | or compile from source | 18:15 |
Kilos | alien has worked for me before | 18:15 |
Kilos | i dunno how to compile | 18:15 |
Squirm | will try and set it up quickly | 18:15 |
Squirm | (never used ibid though) | 18:15 |
Kilos | i ran some rpm thing on maverick after using alien to convert rpm to .deb | 18:16 |
Kilos | i can help you with ibid i think | 18:16 |
magespawn | Squirm: one of my responsibilities is an asterisk running on a headless CentOS | 18:20 |
Kilos | oh Squirm can you try set it up for me | 18:20 |
Squirm | magespawn: that's cool. I want to start getting asterisk into the school. | 18:21 |
Squirm | but we kind of need fiber too | 18:21 |
Kilos | magespawn, that asterisk is for voip right? | 18:21 |
Squirm | Kilos: busy setting it up | 18:21 |
Squirm | and yes | 18:21 |
Kilos | wont it see that im not you? | 18:21 |
magespawn | not only voip and call routing recording, music on hold, tracking etc software pbx | 18:22 |
Squirm | Kilos: I created an account too | 18:22 |
Squirm | magespawn: look at | 18:22 |
Squirm | Elastix | 18:22 |
magespawn | everything call related | 18:22 |
Kilos | ok then can use use pc mike for calls as well magespawn ? | 18:22 |
Squirm | it's an all in one communication OS | 18:23 |
magespawn | i saw that thanks Squirm | 18:23 |
Squirm | Asterisk, email, fax to email, email to fax, switchboard | 18:23 |
magespawn | almost anything Kilos | 18:23 |
Kilos | wow | 18:23 |
Squirm | Kilos: it's all voip | 18:23 |
magespawn | very powerful and free | 18:23 |
Kilos | so i can install it here and use it that way for calls? | 18:23 |
Squirm | and you can get cellphone apps that can connect to it | 18:23 |
Squirm | Kilos: you'd still need a digium card, it's basically a fancy modem type card. connects your pc to the phone line | 18:24 |
magespawn | well they have it set up to do least cost routing between voip, cell and landline | 18:24 |
Kilos | ah | 18:24 |
nuvolari | o/ | 18:24 |
magespawn | hey nuvolari | 18:25 |
nuvolari | hi oom Kilos, oom magespawn, uncle Squirm | 18:25 |
nuvolari | *cough* :P | 18:25 |
Kilos | lo nuvolari | 18:25 |
magespawn | now i'm an oom | 18:25 |
Kilos | eerste klas more aand op #linux-studies ne | 18:25 |
magespawn | ? | 18:25 |
* Squirm eyes nuvolari | 18:25 | |
Squirm | nuvolari: I'm now an uncle? | 18:25 |
Squirm | good evening grandfather nuvolari | 18:26 |
Kilos | haha | 18:26 |
nuvolari | magespawn: it would surely be disrespectful to call you grandp... ok, nevermind | 18:26 |
* nuvolari ducks | 18:26 | |
Squirm | oh yes, I do apologise to all for my talkativeness, I had about an hour sleep last night | 18:26 |
Kilos | whew | 18:27 |
nuvolari | waarheen het oom gehol? | 18:27 |
Kilos | huh? | 18:28 |
Squirm | Kilos: remind me to have a look tomorrow | 18:28 |
Squirm | I can't concentrate on what I need to do | 18:28 |
Kilos | ok ty Squirm | 18:28 |
Squirm | and think I'm going to bed | 18:28 |
Kilos | sleep tight | 18:28 |
Squirm | night all | 18:28 |
nuvolari | night Squirm | 18:29 |
nuvolari | Kilos: oom maak whew | 18:29 |
nuvolari | ek dog oom blaas asem af | 18:29 |
Kilos | die min slaap man | 18:29 |
Kilos | hehe | 18:29 |
nuvolari | ah | 18:29 |
nuvolari | wat gebeur in more-aand se klas oom? | 18:29 |
Kilos | ek sukkel met my volk | 18:29 |
magespawn | cheers Squirm | 18:29 |
Kilos | ek weet nie | 18:30 |
Kilos | kom kyk | 18:30 |
nuvolari | bbiab, phonecall | 18:31 |
Kilos | mazal, why dont you join our LPI classes | 18:32 |
Kilos | slack | 18:33 |
Symmetria | damnnnn | 18:49 |
Symmetria | I been looking at rental options in kenya | 18:49 |
Symmetria | with the housing budget I got, hahahahahahhaha | 18:49 |
Symmetria | I could rent a damn mansion | 18:49 |
Symmetria | in the best area of nairobi | 18:49 |
magespawn | nothing wrong with that | 18:50 |
Symmetria | heh, you can rent a 4 bedroom house | 18:50 |
Symmetria | with a swimming pool | 18:50 |
Symmetria | cctv | 18:50 |
Symmetria | a braai area | 18:50 |
Symmetria | dstv included | 18:50 |
Symmetria | for R16k ZAR a month | 18:51 |
Symmetria | if you push that to 25k ZAR a month you can have an 8 bedroom house with 8 on suite bathrooms | 18:51 |
Symmetria | ;p like what the hell | 18:51 |
Symmetria | you could run a bloody guesthouse outta that | 18:51 |
magespawn | how much is that locally? | 18:51 |
Symmetria | heh, for the 4 bedroom place in capetown? | 18:53 |
Symmetria | double that, easily | 18:53 |
Symmetria | for an 8 bedroom place? in capetown that will run you 50 - 60 k a month | 18:53 |
magespawn | no i mean how much is that in kenya? | 18:54 |
Symmetria | oh the 4 bedroom place as I said, about 16 thousand rand (about 160 thousand shillings) | 18:55 |
Symmetria | the 8 bedroom place about 250 thousand shillings (25 thousand rand) | 18:55 |
magespawn | image you got the housing allowance in pounds | 18:56 |
magespawn | cost of living? cheap? | 18:56 |
magespawn | always nice to be paid in one currency and spend in another with exchange rates like that | 18:57 |
Symmetria | cost of living is dirt cheap | 18:58 |
Symmetria | I get paid in dollars and housing allowance is in dollars | 18:58 |
mazal | Sleep well everyone | 19:04 |
mazal | bye | 19:04 |
Kilos | night mazal | 19:04 |
magespawn | cheers mazal | 19:05 |
Kilos | sleep tight | 19:05 |
magespawn | i telkom is doing a 20 gig renew your contract deal for R199 per month * 24 | 19:06 |
Kilos | whew | 19:06 |
magespawn | ^see | 19:08 |
magespawn | otherwise 10 gig 8ta for R199 | 19:08 |
magespawn | afrihost has mtn 10 gig at R197 month to month no contract | 19:09 |
Kilos | yeah i think thats what graeme got | 19:09 |
Kilos | with that modem goodie | 19:10 |
magespawn | tempting if i could get good mtn coverage | 19:10 |
Kilos | yeah me too but mtn sucks large here | 19:11 |
Kilos | offline every 2nd or third day and only edge | 19:11 |
magespawn | kinda want vodacom to do a similar deal | 19:13 |
Kilos | night guys. i go crsah | 19:16 |
Kilos | sleep tight | 19:16 |
Kilos | crash too | 19:16 |
magespawn | sleep well Kilos | 19:17 |
magespawn | man my timing is off tonight | 19:17 |
magespawn | bed time for me, good night all | 19:35 |
inetpro | hmm... | 19:48 |
inetpro | Maaz: is https://twitter.com/ down? | 19:48 |
Maaz | inetpro: No, it's just you | 19:48 |
inetpro | ai! | 19:48 |
inetpro | seems to be down by my side | 19:48 |
nuvolari | this isn't funny | 21:17 |
nuvolari | 'talk' is supposed to be easy on linux | 21:17 |
nuvolari | I just spent more than 20 minutes and I still can't figure it out | 21:17 |
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