[06:35] maaz tell ThatGraemeGuy I investigated quickly running root cronjobs and will test from tonight [06:35] mazal: Okay, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode [06:45] morning all of ya [06:49] hi DeonP [06:50] hi Kilos [06:57] More oom Kilos ,DeonP [06:58] môre mazal [06:58] mornings [06:58] ThatGraemeGuy: By the way, mazal on freenode told me "tell ThatGraemeGuy I investigated quickly running root cronjobs and will test from tonight" 23 minutes and 20 seconds ago [06:59] mazal: good stuff :) [06:59] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:59] Kilos, my schedules wget worked last night. This morning I had the iso :-) [06:59] is it one hand counting yet? [07:00] lekker i love wget [07:00] yes indeed, 5 more work days! :) [07:00] especially with a dicey internet [07:00] hehe getting excited [07:03] Tonight gonna let the server iso dl and start trying the root cron job for updates as well [07:03] good morning [07:03] ohi superfly [07:04] looked last night with the pro. it wants to update daily [07:04] i only do update/upgrade when data is full [07:04] so cron and i arent buddies [07:06] nothing worse than planning data use to last 2 months and an upgrade finishes you in 1.5 months [07:09] You can schedule cron for only Fridays or only certain days of the month Kilos [07:11] ill leave it till i one day get uncapped adsl [07:11] head too full of lpi and other stuff [07:13] i go feed sheep [07:39] hi Xethron zeref [07:41] hi Kilos [07:44] got a funny error while booting this morning i/o error Zram0 [07:44] whatever that might be. everything is working fine [07:44] did memory test and no probs shown [07:48] hi Vince-0 [07:55] Hi [08:07] tumbleweed: I'm trying to build a deb package to run only on python3, I followed http://www.wefearchange.org/2012/01/debian-package-for-python-2-and-3.html to package for python 3. [08:07] after i install the package, I get a from urllib.request import Request, urlopen [08:07] ImportError: No module named request [08:07] aah [08:08] hi bduk [08:08] http://pastebin.com/2pEB2GLA [08:10] but if the test the application using python3 *.py it works? [08:10] any idea why? [08:23] Does anybody know , on 12.04LTS UbuntuOne , how do you see the last files that was synced ? On 13.04 the applet shows it , but 12.04's version doesn't have that applet [08:29] ai! [08:32] good morning [08:32] hi magespawn you getting there hey [08:44] today i am at the shop closing it up and organising the last few service pc's out the door [08:51] ah i thought youd sorted irc at work [08:57] yes i logged on from there yesterday [09:03] Morning everyone [09:24] zeref: are you sure you are *actually* using python3 ? [09:26] zeref: in fact, from that traceback, you definitely are using python2.7 [09:26] zeref: packaging for Python 2 & 3 just got a *lot* easier, that howto is out of date. [09:26] man pybuild [09:53] bduk: hi [10:00] hi [10:31] hey Squirm [10:42] hi there magespawn [10:42] rather quiet today === zerlgi is now known as andrewlsd [10:44] yup [10:44] and i am now off too [10:46] almost lunch for me [10:48] tumbleweed: thanks. working now [11:55] good afternoon [11:56] Maaz: coffee on [11:56] * Maaz puts the kettle on [11:59] andrewlsd: ping [12:00] Coffee's ready for charl! [12:00] Maaz: thanks [12:00] charl: Sure [12:00] this is hilarious: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTjtDjCCMAA_N_M.jpg:large [12:21] superfly: pong [12:22] andrewlsd: private message [14:31] bbl [14:44] folks l2tp client problem sorted!! :D [14:50] superfly: you bought those kitkats locally? [14:55] ^^ -- also keen to find that out. [15:17] DeonP: well done [15:17] now please document and share what you did for the benefit of others [15:22] later all [16:31] hello [16:43] abend [16:43] hallo Kilos [16:44] sorry I got dc'd last night [16:44] ahi kbmonkey [16:44] disconnected [16:44] np ian fixed [16:44] or was last night [16:44] havent heard again [16:45] he fixed it? wow amazing [16:46] SilverCode, code us to run plasma-desktop from cli and it worked [16:46] told [16:46] nice [16:46] of course only someone with KDE experience could have helped :] [16:47] id akready got him to install all plasma stuff i got in kde and kubuntu-full and just that running in cli let it get going [16:47] weird hey [16:49] yes, it is curious [16:51] hi psychicist [16:52] hi Kilos [16:53] first class tomorrow night kbmonkey [16:54] Kilos, thanks! [16:54] i need to make a reminder [16:54] damn I'm hungry [16:54] hehe [16:54] been working late this week [16:54] its not fun [16:54] get tins of gold dish curry vegetables [16:54] top off and eat [16:55] ew gross. no i like fresh food [16:55] they very lekker [16:55] I'll go make burgers just now [16:55] ;P [16:55] thats not as healthy [16:55] curry is very healthy [16:55] if you think that you have not had a monkey burger! [16:55] ah [16:55] lol! [17:06] I am amazed at how large these games are today. it blows my mind! [17:06] the guys at work talk about this game they play, battlefield or something. the updates are like 20+GB [17:06] What The Heck! [17:06] sup ;p [17:06] wow [17:06] hi Symmetria [17:06] so remeber a while back when I left tenet there was talking about me moving to kenya? :) [17:07] seems like thats finally gonna happen [17:07] ;p [17:07] nice Symmetria [17:07] gonna go see some lions [17:07] kbmonkey lol game updates are huge [17:07] world of warcraft updatres are a coupla gig each time [17:07] I just got my data bundle doubled, and that is like still 5 times my limit, [17:08] heh, got offered a job that Im almost certainly gonna take, the money and the position, I'd be nuts not to accept [17:09] just trying to negotiate a bit because I figure anyone who comes with a first offer like that, is probably prepared to go higher ;p [17:09] indeed! [17:09] very odd tax rules as well about being an expat [17:09] did you know that if you are outta the country for a full month without coming back, and in total you are outta the country for 183 days in a tax year [17:10] all foreign earnings are tax exempt in .za [17:10] which means, if you're working in say kenya, but you're being paid by a third country, like mauritius, technically you aren't working in kenya, so you arent taxed there [17:10] you are never in the third country so you arent taxed there [17:10] and you arent taxable in south africa because its all tax exempt foreign earnings [17:10] meaning, you're tax free [17:11] ;p [17:11] how awesome is thar [17:11] that [17:12] Kilos!!! :) [17:12] its working [17:12] hi DeonP [17:12] what did you do [17:12] make notes [17:12] well done [17:13] routing probs i did :) [17:13] its the simple things that always get you lol [17:13] good work DeonP ! [17:13] Im off to gomake some gains [17:14] lol routing issues arent always simple though :) [17:14] hehe [17:14] boss is happy, now we can host his website and email in house [17:14] why would he want to do that :0 [17:14] cool [17:14] hosting websites at home is scary :) no proper infrastructure at most houses [17:15] oh you mean inside the company [17:15] save money :) for now, new buiseness and money is tight, VERY tight [17:15] yah that makes sense if you have the bandwidth for it :) [17:15] * Symmetria tries to figure out his travel schedule [17:15] dont need too much bandwidth, and he's got proper uncapped adsl [17:15] lol, so, on friday I left home and was asked when I would be back, so I was like, not 100% sure, but I figured a week or 2 [17:16] flew to mauritius, and lol, just found out before I get home, I gotta first go via mombassa, nairobi, kampala and kigali [17:16] and chances are by the time Im done with that, I'll have to go somewhere else ;p [17:16] * Symmetria is making it home for a week outta every 10 at the moment [17:16] ok folks i'm off to have a rest lol will do a write-up on setting up xl2tpd on isp for fixed ip [17:16] poor dog [17:17] havva good rest DeonP [17:17] lol doggy is harassing my parents who look after her :) she loves them anyway [17:17] pretty simple once you know how lol [17:17] ty chat tomorrow [17:17] ok [17:18] hrm, wait, he's running l2tpd on linux? interesting, wonder if that v2 or v3 [17:18] haha hes been battling some days [17:19] lol I made my clients ceo very happy today, I managed to make his mac print to one of those giant xerox workcentre printers [17:19] ask him tomorrow [17:19] and apparently no one else had been able to do that in weeks because no one else uses mac ;p [17:20] (it took me all of 30 seconds) [17:32] Righto [17:32] It's fun compiling the kernel [17:32] Like creating a frankenstein monster [17:36] hehe [17:37] Finally got buildroot to work like I want [17:37] So I'm pretty happy [17:37] good [17:50] Does seem to take a while to build though [17:50] how long you been busy on it now? [17:51] maybe we could also let DeonP know about that free hosting in the cape [17:51] woops [17:52] what free hosting the one that was on facebook? [17:52] hehe [17:52] no that other company with the solar powered data center [17:52] why didnt you tell me too [17:53] * Kilos cries [17:53] about 27 minutes [17:53] see now i am back, bet you guys did not know who was speaking [17:53] thought we did Kilos [17:53] But it's to be expected [17:53] * magespawn goes to google name [17:54] Free hosting in the cape? [17:58] magespawn: Teraco [17:58] Trixar_za: afaik you need to own the server though, they'll just host it [17:58] Ah [17:58] I wish I owned a server [17:58] :P [17:59] HP Proliant Microsever going for R1300 ex :( [17:59] no this was free website hosting [17:59] 2.2Ghz AMD Dual Core, 2Gb RAM, 250Gb hdd [17:59] obviously the small form factor is cool. can also take 4 hdds in total and up to 8Gb RAM [18:00] afaik they also have a 150W psu [18:00] Squirm, explain that to me please [18:00] Kilos: which ? [18:01] if you own the server do you take it to them? [18:01] i dont savvy the hosting thing [18:01] Kilos: I figure so. I'd also think it'd have to be a Rackmount [18:02] Kilos: in a data center, you'll have a steady internet connection and there should be no downtime [18:02] oh ok so you take them your hardware and they run it for you [18:02] that's why hosting is good [18:02] magespawn, find it man [18:03] i still want a host for my bot [18:03] patience [18:03] lol [18:03] you got no more uncapped now with shop closed? [18:03] we host our own MX and up until a few months ago our website too. but when we moved our site off-site, we got a backup mx from dyndns. so none of our mail fails, we just only receive it when we come online [18:03] this is website not bot hosting [18:03] magespawn: shop closed [18:03] ? [18:04] still have adsl [18:04] yup from the end of the month [18:04] oh wow [18:05] magespawn, gotta IT job Squirm [18:05] https://www.cybersmart.co.za/hosting.cgi [18:05] where you been [18:05] that's cool magespawn. where abouts? [18:06] Bonamanzi [18:06] just down the road [18:06] ooh [18:07] Kilos: you might be able to host a bot here https://www.openshift.com/ [18:07] lemme look [18:09] eish redhat [18:09] Naand oom [18:09] oh i could alien ibid [18:10] Kilos: I'll stand by RedHat [18:10] naand mazal [18:10] cheers mazal [18:10] Hi and bye Squirm [18:10] no man goeie naand [18:10] is it still good if it's cold and misty outside? [18:11] lol [18:11] Yes [18:11] Outside Temperature 12.4°C [18:11] Wind Chill 12.4°C [18:11] Heat Index 12.4°C [18:11] Dewpoint 10.6°C [18:11] Humidity 89% [18:11] Then you can over-induldge in indoor activities [18:11] Since Midnight [18:11] High Temperature [18:11] Low Temperature 13.9°C at 15:49 [18:11] 7.7°C at 01:16 [18:11] we had a high of 13.9 today [18:12] and yes, I set up a weather staion yesterday [18:12] brb washing calls [18:13] squirm go see how to install ibib there [18:13] once working ill maintain it if necessary [18:13] ibid [18:13] i see they show python [18:14] would one need to convert a .deb to a rpm [18:15] or compile from source [18:15] alien has worked for me before [18:15] i dunno how to compile [18:15] will try and set it up quickly [18:15] (never used ibid though) [18:16] i ran some rpm thing on maverick after using alien to convert rpm to .deb [18:16] i can help you with ibid i think [18:20] Squirm: one of my responsibilities is an asterisk running on a headless CentOS [18:20] oh Squirm can you try set it up for me [18:21] magespawn: that's cool. I want to start getting asterisk into the school. [18:21] but we kind of need fiber too [18:21] magespawn, that asterisk is for voip right? [18:21] Kilos: busy setting it up [18:21] and yes [18:21] wont it see that im not you? [18:22] not only voip and call routing recording, music on hold, tracking etc software pbx [18:22] Kilos: I created an account too [18:22] magespawn: look at [18:22] Elastix [18:22] everything call related [18:22] ok then can use use pc mike for calls as well magespawn ? [18:23] it's an all in one communication OS [18:23] i saw that thanks Squirm [18:23] Asterisk, email, fax to email, email to fax, switchboard [18:23] almost anything Kilos [18:23] wow [18:23] Kilos: it's all voip [18:23] very powerful and free [18:23] so i can install it here and use it that way for calls? [18:23] and you can get cellphone apps that can connect to it [18:24] Kilos: you'd still need a digium card, it's basically a fancy modem type card. connects your pc to the phone line [18:24] well they have it set up to do least cost routing between voip, cell and landline [18:24] ah [18:24] o/ [18:25] hey nuvolari [18:25] hi oom Kilos, oom magespawn, uncle Squirm [18:25] *cough* :P [18:25] lo nuvolari [18:25] now i'm an oom [18:25] eerste klas more aand op #linux-studies ne [18:25] ? [18:25] * Squirm eyes nuvolari [18:25] nuvolari: I'm now an uncle? [18:26] good evening grandfather nuvolari [18:26] haha [18:26] magespawn: it would surely be disrespectful to call you grandp... ok, nevermind [18:26] * nuvolari ducks [18:26] oh yes, I do apologise to all for my talkativeness, I had about an hour sleep last night [18:27] whew [18:27] waarheen het oom gehol? [18:28] huh? [18:28] Kilos: remind me to have a look tomorrow [18:28] I can't concentrate on what I need to do [18:28] ok ty Squirm [18:28] and think I'm going to bed [18:28] sleep tight [18:28] night all [18:29] night Squirm [18:29] Kilos: oom maak whew [18:29] ek dog oom blaas asem af [18:29] die min slaap man [18:29] hehe [18:29] ah [18:29] wat gebeur in more-aand se klas oom? [18:29] ek sukkel met my volk [18:29] cheers Squirm [18:30] ek weet nie [18:30] kom kyk [18:31] bbiab, phonecall [18:32] mazal, why dont you join our LPI classes [18:33] slack [18:49] damnnnn [18:49] I been looking at rental options in kenya [18:49] with the housing budget I got, hahahahahahhaha [18:49] I could rent a damn mansion [18:49] in the best area of nairobi [18:50] nothing wrong with that [18:50] heh, you can rent a 4 bedroom house [18:50] with a swimming pool [18:50] cctv [18:50] a braai area [18:50] dstv included [18:51] for R16k ZAR a month [18:51] if you push that to 25k ZAR a month you can have an 8 bedroom house with 8 on suite bathrooms [18:51] ;p like what the hell [18:51] you could run a bloody guesthouse outta that [18:51] how much is that locally? [18:53] heh, for the 4 bedroom place in capetown? [18:53] double that, easily [18:53] for an 8 bedroom place? in capetown that will run you 50 - 60 k a month [18:54] no i mean how much is that in kenya? [18:55] oh the 4 bedroom place as I said, about 16 thousand rand (about 160 thousand shillings) [18:55] the 8 bedroom place about 250 thousand shillings (25 thousand rand) [18:56] image you got the housing allowance in pounds [18:56] cost of living? cheap? [18:57] always nice to be paid in one currency and spend in another with exchange rates like that [18:58] cost of living is dirt cheap [18:58] I get paid in dollars and housing allowance is in dollars [19:04] Sleep well everyone [19:04] bye [19:04] night mazal [19:05] cheers mazal [19:05] sleep tight [19:06] i telkom is doing a 20 gig renew your contract deal for R199 per month * 24 [19:06] whew [19:08] ^see [19:08] otherwise 10 gig 8ta for R199 [19:09] afrihost has mtn 10 gig at R197 month to month no contract [19:09] yeah i think thats what graeme got [19:10] with that modem goodie [19:10] tempting if i could get good mtn coverage [19:11] yeah me too but mtn sucks large here [19:11] offline every 2nd or third day and only edge [19:13] kinda want vodacom to do a similar deal [19:16] night guys. i go crsah [19:16] sleep tight [19:16] crash too [19:17] sleep well Kilos [19:17] man my timing is off tonight [19:35] bed time for me, good night all [19:48] hmm... [19:48] Maaz: is https://twitter.com/ down? [19:48] inetpro: No, it's just you [19:48] ai! [19:48] seems to be down by my side [21:17] this isn't funny [21:17] 'talk' is supposed to be easy on linux [21:17] I just spent more than 20 minutes and I still can't figure it out