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TsarObombawhat happened to xinput_calibrator pkg in recent versions00:00
oppositescopez(remember were trying to fix my apt-get here)00:00
TsarObombahelp page on wiki says it was there in 12.0400:00
TsarObombaand there is a ppa for earlier versions00:00
TsarObombai kinda need it00:00
KI7MToppositescopez,  sudo apt-add-repository --remove ppa:<NAME-OF-PACKAGE>-ppa/ppa00:00
TsarObombahttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/xinput_calibrator.1.html00:01
salamandre43025Good morning all00:01
TsarObombahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen00:01
oppositescopezthere i got it00:01
Fieldyhello, how do I configure a service to start at boot?00:01
CuRbhere it's 02:02:25 a.m.00:01
KI7MTwith rc.d00:01
oppositescopezjust had to close the 7 "chrome cant be ran as root" errors i get every time i use an apt-get ...00:02
TsarObombafieldy the gentoo master cant figure out ubuntu? :P00:02
TsarObombajp00:02
Icehawk78I'm having an issue with a desktop installation of 12.04 not detecting my CD/DVD drive. I can press the eject button, and it opens without issue, but I can't find anything to read it - there's no /dev/scd, /dev/cdrom, /dev/dvd, or anything similar, and lshw -C disk only shows my hard drives.00:02
oppositescopezwhy its trying to run scrome as root?, no clue...00:02
Fieldylots of different init/service systems out there, i'm not familiar00:02
TsarObombaI see no more fieldysnuts, must have been too many jokes00:02
oppositescopez*chrome00:02
TsarObombaim messing with you00:02
Fieldyno /etc/rc.d00:02
TsarObombaright replace rc.d with init.d00:03
TsarObombawe dont use gentoos init daemon00:03
salamandre43025I need help with 12.04LTS. Upgraded to 319 nvidia driver, ran the 36 latest updates and now I can't even get to the splash screen after grub00:03
TsarObombaits a debian like system00:03
Fieldyokay, he said "with rc.d" ;p00:03
KI7MTBoot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto00:03
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FieldyKI7MT: thanks00:03
TsarObombaFieldy: whoever it was was wrong00:04
TsarObombaoh00:04
TsarObombaon boot00:04
oppositescopezso what do i do with this purge program..?00:04
Ari-Yangsalamandre43025, how and where did you get the update for your driver?00:04
Ari-Yangoppositescopez, you mean sudo aptitude purge target program00:04
TsarObombaFieldy: add it used update-rc.d00:04
Ari-Yanglike sudo aptitude purge VIM00:04
TsarObombaand it adds it to run levels00:04
TsarObombaif its already in init.d00:05
TsarObombayou'll see via that wiki page00:05
Fieldyah with update-rc.d i mistook "rc.d" to mean /etc/rc.d, my bad. testing now00:05
oppositescopezbtw i cant apt-get remove anything, doesnt work.00:05
nabbletoppositescopez: so your prblem is fixed now00:05
TsarObombano prob00:05
nabblet?00:05
TsarObombai had to do the same making a znc daemon myself by scratch00:05
nabbletoppositescopez: ah ok - forget my question ;)00:05
oppositescopezuhh, what program am i targerting here?00:05
nabbletoppositescopez: sudo apt-get remove <package>00:06
salamandre43025Ari-Yang: Additional drivers> [recommended]. I was sent there by Steam00:06
TsarObombaim half way drunk and felt like messing with you since i remember you from my deep dark gentoo days00:06
nabbletoppositescopez: the sudo is important00:06
TsarObombabefore I found kubuntu and a desktop that works without issue00:06
oppositescopezso im purging vim?00:06
TsarObombaheck it even poiwers my buildbox and hudson/jenkins00:06
oppositescopezi know00:06
Ari-Yangsalamandre43025, so you got drivers form nvidia's site? tbh I don't think that was a good idea... you should only install drivers form ubuntu's official repos or drivers that are trusted...00:07
nabbletoppositescopez: why do you want to purge vim00:07
oppositescopezi know how sudo works ^-^00:07
nabblet?00:07
oppositescopezidk00:07
Ari-Yangthe problem might be a video driver problem, salamandre4302500:07
oppositescopezthats what they said00:07
nabbletoppositescopez: lol00:07
nabbletoppositescopez: does apt-get update work now?00:07
jriboppositescopez: uh, you never answered my question from before00:07
TsarObombais there a way to get apt to stop telling me about certain packages no longer being required00:07
salamandre43025Can I fix it from the recovery mode root console?00:07
oppositescopezomg havent done it yet X.X and hey jrib :D00:07
TsarObombai run a liquorix kernel, and since installing, it wants me to autoremove the damn stock kernel. and i wanna keep it and not see the messages00:08
TsarObombathat would be awesome00:08
Ari-Yangsalamandre43025, you should... like be able to run any commands to remove the driver00:08
CuRbchrome ? whois so stupid to use it ? https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/proprietary-sabotage.html00:08
Ari-Yangand install the one from ubuuntu's repos, salamandre4302500:08
oppositescopezthe responce -.- This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.00:08
oppositescopezthats what it said00:09
oppositescopezi think i did something wrong o.000:09
DylanI cant talk00:09
Dylanwait00:09
Dylannow i can00:09
Dylanok00:09
FloodBot1Dylan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:09
DylanUh ok00:09
Dylan...00:09
CuRbMicrosoft informs the NSA of bugs in Windows before fixing them For instance, it regards the inclusion of proprietary Flash Player (which has a surveillance feature and DRM) in Chrome as a good thing. Chrome is a proprietary browser with a universal back door.00:09
oppositescopezoh whoops spelled something wrong'00:10
jribCuRb: this channel is for support not random comments about the NSA00:10
salamandre43025Ari-Yang: It's from the repos. I have another issue, whenever I use jockey-text, I get D-BUS error00:10
Ari-Yangsalamandre43025, sorry, I'm not sure :V... maybe somebody else will get to you00:10
CuRband infact it refers to Chrome00:10
DylanI have a question, for some reason I keep getting logged out. I click on something then screen goes black then it goes to the ubuntu screen.. Please help me00:10
CuRbread the page https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/proprietary-sabotage.html00:10
jribCuRb: stop.00:11
oppositescopezok i purged (and it came along with the 7 chrome cant be ran as roots)00:11
DylanMe?00:11
CuRbis ubuntu your own channel ?00:11
oppositescopezmy results http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094875/00:12
CuRboppositescopez please read https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/proprietary-sabotage.html00:13
ChogyDan!guidelines > CuRb00:13
ubottuCuRb, please see my private message00:13
oppositescopezwhat.. curb. why o.000:13
jribCuRb: this channel is for support.  If you're not asking a support question or answering one, please keep quiet. Other discussion takes place in #ubuntu-offtopic.  You can discuss things like the NSA and gnu's stance on chrome there (i.e., not here).00:15
TsarObombajrib: you see my question?00:15
TsarObombayou seem to be the only expert00:15
CuRbhere how to run chrome as root https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174356500:15
TsarObombai would think i would need to set apt to blacklist those packages from thinking i can remove trhem00:15
oppositescopezi dont want to run chrome as root00:15
qin!ot | CuRb is for general spam00:15
ubottuCuRb is for general spam: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:15
oppositescopezthats an error00:15
jribTsarObomba: I don't know what the liquorix kernel is. Do you obtain it through APT?00:15
TsarObombayup00:16
TsarObombaa mirror00:16
oppositescopezso did people give up on helping me?00:16
ChogyDanoppositescopez: are you running Ubuntu or debian?00:16
TsarObombaits a zen kernel00:16
jribCuRb: why are you linking to that.  No one wants or needs to run chrome as root.00:16
oppositescopezlubuntu?00:16
TsarObombathat a developer packages into "liquporix"00:16
TsarObombathats not the issue00:16
TsarObombathe issue is, you install a kernel different than the base kernel and apt wants to remove the base kernel00:16
TsarObombaand i WANT to keep it00:16
CuRba user said that was not possible to run chrome as root; i replied that is possible to do it https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174356500:16
TsarObombaya know, for safe keeping :)00:16
jribTsarObomba: what does « apt-cache show package-that-give-you-liquporix » return to you?  Please stop using enter as punctuation00:17
oppositescopezoh00:17
oppositescopezwell i get that error any time u use any apt-get and any support for help would be appreciated..00:17
jribCuRb: address that to whomever asked the question in the future.   And please advise them that it's a terrible idea.00:17
jriboppositescopez: you still haven't answered my question (3rd time I've asked you about it now)00:17
TsarObombajrib: http://slexy.org/view/s2EehfObxD00:18
CuRbit's written on the same page of ubuntuforum00:18
CuRbi puntualized only that is possible00:18
oppositescopezwhich question?00:18
TsarObombajrib: but the issue isnt the new kernel. any new kernel will have the same effect, when you run apt-get afterwards it will constantly remind you you can remove the stock kernel00:18
TsarObombaIt also does that with stock mainline-ppa kernels00:18
jribTsarObomba: pastebin input and output your are referencing00:18
CuRbanything can run as root; root is always to his own risk00:18
jribCuRb: ok00:19
TsarObombathe input can be apt-get install anything00:19
jribTsarObomba: that's fine, pick some anything and pastebin00:19
ChogyDanTsarObomba: make sure you have the linux-generic package install, that will keep the latest stock kernel00:19
TsarObombaThe following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:00:19
dobip -6 route add ::/0 via fe80::1 src 2a01:xxx:190:xxx::2 dev eth0 metric 0 works in console, but not as up - script in interfaces config. Somebody some idea????00:19
TsarObomba  linux-headers-3.8.0-19 linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic linux-image-extra-3.8.0-19-generic00:19
TsarObombachocolatemousse: thats NOT my point00:19
TsarObombawoops00:19
TsarObombaChogyDan: ^00:19
jribTsarObomba: why is ChogyDan's suggestion not valid for you?00:20
TsarObombamy point is stopping it from giving me that damn message its removable, i know it is00:20
SupaYoshiiHeya anyone, can someone tell me how to PERMALITLY change my Wifi Mac address?00:20
TsarObombajrib: because i know its installed, i want it installed. I njust dont want apt to tell me its valid to be rempoved00:20
TsarObombaffs, do you guys not get it?00:20
oppositescopezjrib: what question?00:20
qinTsarObomba: apt-get autoremove ?00:20
SupaYoshiiI've a android phone... and it keeps changing its WIFI MAC after I turn on and off wifi....00:20
ChogyDanTsarObomba: the message is happening because you have a later version stock kernel, and the one that it is suggesting to remove is outdated00:20
TsarObombaqin: thatsd what im looking to avoid00:20
TsarObomba....00:20
SupaYoshiiI really wonder whats going on, I already installed another rom but same issue remains.!00:20
* TsarObomba pulls another tooth00:21
nabbletoppositescopez: try  apt-get reinstall syslinux-themes-debian00:21
CuRbRTFM00:21
TsarObombaChogyDan: ofc00:21
jribTsarObomba: install it then.  It's telling you that because the package was installed as a dependency and not manually by you.  You can either install it or use apt-mark.  Or (probably best) install the meta-package ChogyDan referred to00:21
oppositescopezok one sec00:21
TsarObombaChogyDan: im looking to STOP that msg00:21
TsarObombajrib: it is installed00:21
TsarObombajesus christ00:21
nabbletoppositescopez: oh, forget that. use purge00:21
TsarObombayou people are not getting00:21
jribTsarObomba: read the rest of my sentence00:21
TsarObombaomg00:21
oppositescopezpurge it?00:21
nabbletoppositescopez: sudo apt-get purge syslinux-themes-debian00:21
oppositescopezok00:21
jribTsarObomba: It's telling you that because the package was installed as a dependency and not manually by you.  You can either install it or use apt-mark.  Or (probably best) install the meta-package ChogyDan referred to00:21
nabbletoppositescopez: yes00:21
oppositescopezif you say so00:21
jriboppositescopez: what package provides that file you get in your error?00:22
TsarObombalinux-generic is installed, and has been00:22
TsarObombait has been since i installed00:22
nabbletjrib: syslinux-themes-debian that's the troublemaker00:22
nabbletjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094875/00:22
TsarObombaim about to ask debian since you guys seem clueless wohen it comes to complex issues00:22
nabbletjrib: that's for oppositescopez problem00:23
salamandre43025Can I configure xorg drivers with jockey-text in the recovery mode root console prompt?00:23
TsarObombathis is linux, you can do just about anything with it00:23
jribTsarObomba: you aren't listening.00:23
oppositescopezresult http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094897/00:23
TsarObombasalamandre43025: yes00:23
TsarObombajrib: sure i am00:23
jribTsarObomba: what package wants to be removed?00:23
TsarObombajrib: you told me to use the other guys siggestion of linux-image-generic00:23
TsarObombawhich is ALREADY install00:23
jribTsarObomba: nope00:23
dobno ideas about the network config00:23
ChogyDanTsarObomba: do you just want the kernels to keep adding, and never remove?  It's not clear00:24
TsarObombajrib: i pasted the packages it wants to remove via autoremove above00:24
dobseems to be impossible to set the default outgoing ip address00:24
jribTsarObomba: first of all, you keep changing package names.  Which makes it hard to help you. We need to be clear about the packages involved.00:24
jrib!who | oppositescopez00:24
ubottuoppositescopez: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)00:24
TsarObombaChogyDan: i dont care WHAT it does, as long as it stoips annoying me when running apt-=get about the stock kernel being remobavle because i have a different kernel installed00:24
jriboppositescopez: dpkg -S /usr/share/themes/lfs-black-base-blue/gtk-2.0/gtkrc00:24
salamandre43025TsarObama: how do I do this and not get a "cannot access d-bus module" error?00:24
TsarObombachanging package names? wtgf you talking about?00:25
TsarObombaChogyDan recommended me install linux-image-generic00:25
TsarObombaThe following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:00:25
TsarObomba  linux-headers-3.8.0-19 linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic linux-image-extra-3.8.0-19-generic00:25
jribTsarObomba: first you specified you had linux-generic now you say linux-image-generic.00:25
TsarObombathat clue you in again?00:25
TsarObombathere is no linux-generic afaik00:25
oppositescopezjrib: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/share/themes/lfs-black-base-blue/gtk-2.0/gtkrc00:25
jribTsarObomba: in the future please use a pastebin instead of pasting to the channel00:25
TsarObombaits linux-image-generic.00:25
TsarObombait was a oneline paste00:26
TsarObombaffs00:26
TsarObombaPeople here are snobs00:26
nabbletoppositescopez: did you ever mess with the themes?00:26
TsarObombajrib: the point is, stopping apt from telling me that message00:26
TsarObombathat is ALL i want00:26
jribTsarObomba: this is a large channel. We ask that you use a pastebin for pastes and not to use enter as punctuation00:26
TsarObombaand i know that is possible somehow00:26
TsarObombaya ya ya00:26
jribTsarObomba: apt-cache depends linux-image-generic returns what for you?00:27
oppositescopezi think that the one that i ame using is a custom made one @nabblet00:27
TsarObombaits gonna return those pakcages that i just pasted00:27
TsarObombaofc it is00:27
salamandre43025! Tab00:27
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.00:27
jribTsarObomba: if you want to theorize instead of just running a command and pasting output, then I can't help you.00:27
TsarObombajrib:  apt-cache depends linux-image-generic00:27
TsarObombatold you00:27
jribTsarObomba: good luck with your issue.00:28
ChogyDan:)00:28
TsarObombawhat?00:28
TsarObombayou are giving up because i gave YOU the answer you are looking for?00:28
TsarObombaif so....00:28
jribTsarObomba: you got no output from apt-cache depends linux-image-generic?00:28
oppositescopeznabblet: im pretty sure it was made by a friend00:29
TsarObombaiu just pasztebined it00:29
nabbletoppositescopez: well, apt-get complains that something is wrong with one of the themes00:29
TsarObombawoopos\00:29
nabbletoppositescopez: that's how i understand it00:29
oppositescopezi tried to use a different theme00:29
TsarObombahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6094915/00:29
oppositescopezeven default00:29
TsarObombaiu meant to copy and paste and pasted the wrong thing00:29
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oppositescopezi still got the error about chrome atleatst.00:29
nabbletoppositescopez: since i don't find any related errors on google, it must be something "home grown"00:30
oppositescopezim gonna take a complete guess and assume it has something to do with dpkg considering it mentions it?00:30
oppositescopezyeah i have never turned to forums for advise, ive googled for weeks00:30
ChogyDanTsarObomba: so you have both -31 and -19 installed.  Do you want both?  Do you want later versions?  Do you want to remove the earlier versions, or have the kernels just pile up?  Or would you rather just the latest?00:30
jriboppositescopez: you need to address whoever it is you are talking to00:31
qinTsarObomba: autoremove and install kernel lower version to your likes, you may want to dist-upgrade too00:31
jribTsarObomba: do you see the versions differ?00:31
damienacc add jabber you@gmail.com00:31
damiendefinitely didnt work lol00:31
TsarObombaChogyDan: i dont care WHAT ubuntu repo kernel versions are installed. Ill keep them all and continue to update, it leavres behind old versions by default. I just want the messages in apt to stop since i installed a non stock kernel from a non standard repo00:31
TsarObombaThat is ALL00:31
oppositescopezok nabblet: it was probably a friend ("he also sabatoged some stuff, so it may have been intentional, but im no longer in contact with him")00:32
TsarObombaAnd that IS possible00:32
jribTsarObomba: as I said before, explicitly install the versions yourself or use apt-mark00:32
TsarObombaqin: you have no idea my friend00:32
TsarObombajrib: the versiuons are installed00:32
ChogyDanTsarObomba: the message has absolutely nothing to do with the non-stock kernel00:32
jribTsarObomba: yes, automatically as depnedncies though.00:32
TsarObombaITs telling me to remove them as they are not needed00:32
TsarObombasigh00:32
TsarObombaso, usuage of apt-mark?00:33
TsarObombaAnd it does, what?00:33
nabbletoppositescopez: oppositescopez00:33
* TsarObomba googles00:33
nabbletoppositescopez: sorry, this might be related http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212081300:33
goodenesshello00:33
TsarObombaapt-mark hold?00:33
TsarObombaand have it hold the meta?00:33
jribTsarObomba: « apt-mark showauto | grep linux-image » for starters.  There may also be a way to tell apt to never tell you about unused packages ever again, but I don't know offhand and I would advise not turning that off, personally.00:33
nabbletoppositescopez: they also have a problem with ERROR:chrome_browser_main_extra_parts_gtk.cc(51)] Startup refusing to run as root.00:33
jriboppositescopez: dpkg -S /usr/share/themes/lfs-black-base-blue/gtk-2.0/gtkrc00:34
goodenesshave a total noob question about installing slic3r if anyone gets a second00:34
TsarObombajrib: i just did apt-mark hold on both meta packages, still getting the messages00:34
TsarObombado i need an update first?00:34
jribTsarObomba: ok, but I didn't say to do that00:34
TsarObombaTsarObomba: you said use apt-mark00:35
jribTsarObomba: correct.  But why do "hold"?+00:35
TsarObombajrib: i dont want it to tell me about all unused packages ever again00:35
TsarObombathats stupid00:35
TsarObombajrib: because it seemed like the right command00:35
jribTsarObomba: I think you want "manual" to indicate that that package is installed manually by you00:36
TsarObombabecause from my googling it would make it not appear in the autoremoveable list00:36
Anonynimitywhen will ubuntu 14.04 be released?00:36
TsarObombajrib: apt-mark showauto | grep linux-image00:36
TsarObombawoop[ps00:36
TsarObombahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6094940/00:36
IdleOneAnonynimity: april 201400:36
Ben64Anonynimity: the version number has the date in it... 14.04 = 2014.04 = what IdleOne just said00:37
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jribTsarObomba: good, that makes it seem promising that marking those packages that you want to keep as "manual" will make apt-get shutup00:37
Anonynimityand that's also when ubuntu phone will be released IdleOne?00:37
oppositescopez@jrib dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/share/themes/lfs-black-base-blue/gtk-2.0/gtkrc00:37
jriboppositescopez: how did that package end up there?  did you install that theme somehow?00:37
IdleOneAnonynimity: there won't be an Ubuntu phone. The funding campaign failed00:37
TsarObombajrib: so how do i00:38
TsarObombaie, mark them as manual or whatever? apt-hold?00:38
Anonynimitywhat?00:38
Anonynimitynoooo00:38
nabbletoppositescopez: do you have a file /etc/psd.conf ?00:38
jribTsarObomba: I *think* you might also just be able to do "apt-get install PACKAGE" though I'm not sure about that.  That's why I suggested also trying to install the packages explicitly.  To use apt-mark, you can do « apt-mark manual PACKAGE_HERE »00:38
TsarObombathere will be ubuntu on phones, just not a ubuntu edge00:38
oppositescopezmy friend put it on here a while back @jrib00:38
TsarObombaI already have it on A phone00:38
Anonynimityso I guess back to asking: How do I port ubuntu phone to a huawei fusion 2?00:38
jriboppositescopez: that file seems to not be correct00:39
TsarObombajrib: lemme try, thanks00:39
IdleOneAnonynimity: see #ubuntu-touch00:39
TsarObombaYou made it through me drinking 4 lemonade and vodkas, so you are a hero00:39
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jribTsarObomba: great that sounds like an excellent drink to make for myself now00:40
ChogyDanTsarObomba: there might be another option, add an exception to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove00:41
TsarObombajrib: it worked :)00:41
oppositescopezits a text file, im pretty sure its there idk why the error jrib00:41
TsarObombaChogyDan: that is WHAT i was talking about all along00:41
TsarObombalmao00:41
turbine_I've got a weird problem that I could really use some help with.  I'm on 12.04, and when I started up my computer today, firefox had reverted to version 11.  apt-get says 11 is the latest version, and when I updated apt-get, it hit all the sources, but the firefox package remains at 11.  Any ideas?00:41
TsarObombaand exception for apt. its been years00:41
jriboppositescopez: it's bad :)  Get rid of it and whatever else is related to it00:41
oppositescopezawh i like this theme00:42
TsarObombaany zsh users here?00:42
ChogyDanturbine_: try apt-cache policy firefox to see what's going on00:43
TsarObombajrib: thanks, and ChogyDan thanks for trying :)00:43
jribChogyDan: nice.  Interestingly enough there's also /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels that seems to keep the last 2 around00:43
oppositescopezlol how do you rm-rf something?00:43
oppositescopezi cant remember syntax00:43
* TsarObomba makes another drink, pulls another tooth (wait, my problem did get solved this tim, so no teeth)00:43
Ben64"rm -rf something"00:43
ChogyDanjrib: yes, it is part of the tricks of kernel policy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/removing-old-kernels00:44
mikeithi00:44
Retroballaglad we have youtube. Just isntalled latest java in like 5 min vs half hour the other day lol00:44
oppositescopezjrib:  ok its deleted00:44
turbine_ChogyDan: got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094964/00:44
oppositescopezjrib: still with this error on apt-getting things http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094966/00:46
blockyi booted the 13.04 livecd and the installer is just spinning after i chose to download updates and install 3rd party software00:46
mikeitMessage/Nick Colors00:47
KI7MTwow, automake: make -j5 && make -j5 check && make install is taking for"Ever" !!00:47
KI7MTWhoops, wrong windows.. SRI :-)00:47
ChogyDanturbine_: ok, that's weird00:47
ChogyDanturbine_: maybe just try sudo apt-get update again00:48
LrdArchi, please somebody help me to installing usb tv (gadmei utv380) in ubuntu.. i've tried tvtime but got stuck when running "tvtime-scanner". it says "Inappropriate ioctl for device"00:48
jriboppositescopez: I don't have time to troubleshoot this with you.  But someone should look at your init scripts for rsyslogd, apparmor profiles, and postinst for rsyslog00:48
oppositescopezjrib: ive been with this problem since last year, i think i can manage :p00:49
turbine_ChogyDan: it's still saying I'm up to date00:49
oppositescopezjrib: i dont think if its that big of a task anyone else would want to do it either00:49
blockywill sudo killall ubiquity allow me to restart the installer cleanly?00:50
KI7MToppositescopez, pastebinit this: sudo sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/rsyslog.postinst configure00:50
oppositescopezunless anyone knows what he is talking about and wants to help?00:50
ChogyDanoppositescopez: did you try to put your browser profile in some place different?00:51
wagleall 12.04 packages are now unauthenticated?00:52
TsarObombaagaoin, any zsh users?00:52
oppositescopezKI7MT: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094988/00:52
oppositescopezChogyDan: i didnt do anything a f riend set this up so i dont know much about it..00:52
RetroballaI think this is how I installed firefox. I had to go back in terminal and look at what I typed out00:52
Retroballahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6094989/00:52
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Retroballaobviously I already had firefox extracted in my Downloads folder  ;)00:53
waglei can't update or install new packages on either of my 12.04 systems, and I wasnt fooling around with anything00:55
ChogyDanoppositescopez: random guess: apt-cache policy profile-sync-daemon             see if you have anything installed like that00:55
KI7MToppositescopez, do you get the same error with service rsyslog start?00:55
Ben64Retroballa: we can't support ppas or installing stuff manually, undo all that and use ubuntu's firefox version00:55
Retroballait works00:55
waglei get unauthenticated package warning00:55
turbine_ChogyDan: actually it looks like I might have the same issue with other packages.  It's got chromium stuck on version 1800:55
Retroballadoes ubuntu have firefox version 2400:56
Retroballaat the time, they didn't00:56
ChogyDanturbine_: can you pastebin the output of apt-get update?00:56
Ben64!info firefox | Retroballa00:56
ubottuRetroballa: firefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 23.0+build2-0ubuntu0.13.04.1 (raring), package size 26508 kB, installed size 55002 kB00:57
LrdArchi, please somebody help me to installing usb tv (gadmei utv380) in ubuntu.. i've tried tvtime but it says "Your capture card driver: uvcvideo [CNF9113/usb-0000:00:1a.7-2/198669] does not support full size studio-quality images required by tvtime."00:57
Retroballayep still no version 2400:57
Ben64Retroballa: still doesn't change what we support here00:57
Retroballabtw, version 24 did fix an youtube fullscreen issue00:57
oppositescopezChogyDan: N: Unable to locate package profile-sync-daemon00:57
Retroballafunny, you dn't support yet it is a solution00:58
Retroballaok00:58
oppositescopezKI7MT: what do you mean?00:58
Ben64Retroballa: this is #ubuntu ... we don't support non-ubuntu packages00:58
turbine_ChogyDan: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094998/00:58
ChogyDanoppositescopez: well, that message, as far as I can tell, is saying that chrome refuses to start since it is being run as root00:59
diegonatt00:59
diegonatasd00:59
oppositescopezChogyDan: im not trying to start chrome, it happens when i try to use apt-get with ANYTHING00:59
KI7MToppositescopez, : sudo service rsyslog restart00:59
RetroballaI assume ubuntu get programs late until it is an official ubuntu package00:59
Retroballano biggie01:00
ChogyDanoppositescopez: well, if you have a funky setup, maybe rsyslog is trying to start chrome for some weird reason01:00
Ben64Retroballa: 24 is in beta, so thats why its not in ubuntu yet01:00
ChogyDanRetroballa: firefox 24 isnt out for windows yet either01:00
KI7MTYep, I suspect you have an apparmor issue01:00
oppositescopezKI7MT:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095001/01:00
oppositescopezChogyDan: well, where does this happe, how do i fix it?01:00
oppositescopezChogyDan: ive searched and searched i cant find a solution01:01
KI7MTHmm, that not be good. how did you get to this point, what did you install ./ remove ?01:01
ChogyDanoppositescopez: unfortunately, I know nothing about that.  Hopefully KI7MT can help01:01
Retroballawell version 23 may as well be beta. Especially whenI coud't make it 5-10 min without it locking up on a full screen video01:01
Retroballajust sayin01:01
oppositescopezChogyDan: oh, ok. well thanks for trying :)01:02
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ChogyDanRetroballa: well, hopefully 24 will be released soon  :)01:02
Ben64Retroballa: you can install whatever you want. you just can't get support here without following the rules01:02
oppositescopezKI7MT: looks like maybe you know about this, where does rsyslog do its stuff? could this be whats trying to run chrome?. where could i find this out to fix this?01:03
KI7MToppositescopez, so you you were installing Chrome, how ? then what happened ?01:03
oppositescopezKI7MT: i wasnt. thats the thing, the problem is. ANY time i use apt-get. even for ANYTHING at all. i get those chrome errors01:04
Retroballano worries ben, sometiemes i get mixed up between the line of linux and ubuntu.01:04
ChogyDanoppositescopez: we get why you are always getting those errors.  The question is about the time when you first started getting them01:05
oppositescopezChogyDan: that was over a year ago.....01:05
KI7MTI doubt the problem is rsyslog, as it's just a central logger, however apparmor is tied into it, and  if it's failing to fire up, that's an issue.01:06
ChogyDanKI7MT: oppositescopez: what about removing chrome, could that help?01:07
oppositescopezChogyDan: its my only used browser (and what im currently using to talk here)01:07
KI7MToppositescopez, sudo apparmor_status see wht that says first.01:07
oppositescopezKI7MT: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095021/01:08
KI7MTThat's ok, thats  good.01:09
oppositescopezKI7MT: yay01:10
KI7MTAnd this problem is only when you use apt-get ?01:11
oppositescopezKI7MT: its the only command i ever need/ use so idk01:11
oppositescopezKI7MT: but its the only time ive seen it01:12
oppositescopezKI7MT: i know i can run programs from terminal and not get it01:12
KI7MTCan you update & upgrade from Synaptic Manager via Dash >01:13
oppositescopezKI7MT: i can try?01:13
KI7MTYes, see what we get there.01:13
sordidbasswhats better these days? fglrx or radeon?01:13
oppositescopezehh, what do i do with it.?01:14
dr_willissordidbass:  i imagine it depends on your exact chipset neimg used01:14
turbine_ChogyDan: any more ideas?01:14
sordidbass679001:14
KI7MToppositescopez, start it up adn reload first, thats same as update01:14
blackvswhitesordidbass: fglrx or radeon as in which driver? bare in mind the latest drivers from ATI only support the newer cards01:14
oppositescopezKI7MT: got an error, one sec ill pastebin01:15
blackvswhitesordidbass: if you on an older card, stick with fglrx. if your cards new, download the latest driver from ATI and use that. There's a remarkable difference.01:15
blockyhi, not sure if this is a known issue with 13.04 but I'm getting stuck in the livecd installer, after i select not to download updates and click continue01:15
oppositescopezKI7MT:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095038/01:15
sordidbasscard is ~ 2 years old01:16
blockyati video card, core 2 duo E8400, 4gb ram, i have 3 hard drives in the system but I want to install to an SSD with a 30 gig ext4 partition i just created01:16
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oppositescopezKI7MT: spaced it out so you can see all of it http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095044/01:17
ChogyDanturbine_: I dunno, maybe just try a different repo01:18
KI7MTkarmic ?  that's seriously old :-) ..: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out that ## that virtualbox repo.01:18
KI7MTthen ten try an update again.01:19
blockymy tty1 is showing a buffer io error on dev sda101:19
blockyis there a way i can disable that drive? i don't want to install to it01:19
dr_willisblocky:  that may indicate the hard drive is failing or has bad blocks01:19
oppositescopezKI7MT: is that error bad?01:19
dr_willisblocky:  you want to install to sdb or sdc? you could just unplug the problem drive01:20
blockydr_willis: i was wondering if there was a way to do that in software01:20
blockyi guess the bios eh01:20
dr_willisbios might be able to do it. I tend to just pull the power cord to the drive01:20
blockywhy should an error on one drive be a showstopper for the whole installer?01:21
bl4ckdu5tHow can I use fonts like Trebuchet, Maiandra, and other Microsoft fonts on my Ubuntu?01:21
dr_willisbl4ckdu5t:  install them as needed. the msstcorefonts package i think pulls in a lot of them01:21
marcoohi, im going to be assistant of people giving talks using ubuntu. i've seen that the system turns off the screen automatically, and i dont want that to happen. what shell script should i use?01:21
dr_willisif not you can get them from a windows install01:21
dr_willis!fonts01:21
ubottuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". For the official ubuntu font, see: http://font.ubuntu.com/01:21
dr_willisbl4ckdu5t:  the ubuntu-restricted-extras package pulls in the core ms fonts and a lot of other things you may want01:22
penghuancan anyone tell me how to change the default content of source.list in ubuntu*.iso?01:22
KI7MToppositescopez, what you really need is a fresh sources.list to start from, then update from there.01:23
marcoono answers?01:23
oppositescopezKI7MT: what does that mean,. what will that doo?01:23
dr_willispenghuan:  you would have to remaster the iso. Im not sure theres a easy way to alter just one file on an iso image these days.01:24
oppositescopezpenghuan: is this what your talking about.? o.001:24
dr_willispenghuan:  askubuntu.com might have some suggestions for tools that might make it easier01:24
oppositescopezpenghuan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization01:24
KI7MToppositescopez, I use this tool often, you need to back up /etc/apt/sources.list then generate a new one with this: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/01:24
TsarObombaok, soooo touchpad support01:25
marcoothis is why i like windows. No crashes, things are easy to do, and if you need real support you have it.01:25
oppositescopezKI7MT: well what does it do exactly?01:25
penghuanyes ,wo i want to modify the source.list file as what i want when the system installed01:25
blockywhat command would i use to see the serial number of /dev/sda01:25
TsarObombaerr touchscreen *01:25
dr_willismarcoo:   the power saveing/screensaver settings can disable that.01:25
TsarObombaFor a touchscreen with sketchy support, looks like it may have worked in the old days on 32bit01:25
TsarObombaIts a liliput 7incher01:25
TsarObombaAlso known as a POS01:25
TsarObombaI wanna try getting the touch working, the video works perfect01:26
oppositescopezKI7MT: i dont know that much about my stuff ... :/01:26
TsarObombaIts VGA and USB, i assume it registers touch via usb01:26
KI7MToppositescopez, to to that site and generate a new sources list, and save in /Download or /home where you can get to it easy.01:26
KI7MTgo to .. .. .01:26
TsarObombaoh crap, no wonder, i never plugged in the usb01:26
TsarObombaim too drunk for this01:27
TsarObomba8+ shots of svedka and lemonade01:27
TsarObombaive finished half a liter myself.... should i be messing with a touchscreen, hmm....01:27
oppositescopezKI7MT: i dont know what to check for the 3rd, 4rth, 5th, and 6th boxes01:28
TsarObombaBus 001 Device 002: ID 0eef:0001 D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd eGalax TouchScreen01:28
TsarObombaanyone seen that one before?01:28
darkangelHey sups guys.... what can i do to Subport Ubuntu?01:28
oppositescopezKI7MT: and im not 100% sure on the second one o.o01:28
oppositescopezKI7MT: do i just check everything i need?01:29
KI7MToppositescopez, you using 12.10 UBuntu ?01:29
oppositescopezKI7MT: i guess, its lubuntu i think01:30
oppositescopezKI7MT: well i know its lubuntu01:30
oppositescopezKI7MT: thats all i know01:30
TsarObombai got it working, but its mpoving the mouse lmao01:31
TsarObombaeven after xinput_calibration01:31
KI7MToppositescopez, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, comments it all out and add this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095082/01:33
KI7MTBe sure to Back up yoru original sources.list first.01:34
oppositescopezKI7MT: how do you comment something out?01:34
KI7MTwiht a ## sign in fornt of the line01:34
oppositescopezKI7MT: since i have it copied cant i just delete it all?01:34
KI7MT[ # this is a comment ed ]  ... [ This is not commented ]01:34
KI7MTIf you have a backup, yes you can remove it.01:35
oppositescopezKI7MT: cant open file to write, ? im guessing sudo through terminal?01:37
KI7MToppositescopez, yes sudo01:37
oppositescopezKI7MT: how do you open it through terminal?01:38
LrdArcsomebody help me to installing gadmei utv380 :'( it does not even detected http://pastebin.com/RXpuVUGN01:38
wilee-nileeoppositescopez, If you use gedit use gksudo01:38
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wilee-nileeLrdArc, http://askubuntu.com/questions/133314/how-do-i-install-a-gadmei-tv-tuner-utv38001:40
KI7MToppositescopez, in terminal I use nano so : sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.orig && nano /etc/apt/sources.list01:40
oppositescopezKI7MT: oh yeah NANO i forgot thanks01:41
ironfoot495Hello I have a problem trying to work out some OOP code for DB connection. I need to convert it to mysql is there someone who can help me with this?01:41
KI7MTthen Copy & Paste the pastebinit in the file, use Ctrl+K to delete lines quickly.01:41
LrdArcwilee-nileem, i did ls -l /dev/video* but it just showed 1 device01:41
ironfoot495It is is a postgres Script I need to change it to mysql.01:42
wilee-nileeLrdArc, I just found the link, that's all I know. ;)01:42
oppositescopezKI7MT: ok i did it01:42
KI7MToppositescopez, nwo with new data staved in sources.list: sudo apt-get update01:42
NekoGloopMkIIDoes xubuntu not function with 16:9 aspect ratio resolution screens?01:43
oppositescopezKI7MT: ok but still getting chrome error01:44
oppositescopezKI7MT: like i tried a simple apt-get command and im still getting it (if that was supposed to fic)01:44
oppositescopezKI7MT:  *fix01:44
KI7MTHow did yuou install Chrome ? via .deb or apt-get ?01:45
oppositescopezKI7MT:  it wasnt me and it was over a year ago01:45
oppositescopezand its chromium01:46
oppositescopezi thought that came by default?01:46
x_apt-get install chromium-browser01:46
KI7MTIn lubuntu, yes, it's the default browser.01:47
dr_willischrommium is the default on lubuntu i belive01:47
oppositescopezKI7MT: so i didnt install it?01:47
KI7MTNo, it was already installed by default.01:47
oppositescopezKI7MT: sorry that had confused me when you asked01:47
KI7MTI gorgot you said you were on Lubuntu.01:47
KI7MTforgot ..01:47
x_firefox default ? in ubuntu ?01:47
oppositescopezKI7MT: yeah, haha it wass from a misslabeled cd, was aiming for ubuntu but was sadly suprised01:48
KI7MTYes, FF on Ubuntu, Chromium on Lubuntu01:48
oppositescopezKI7MT: so what now?01:48
oppositescopezKI7MT: refresher on the current error After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. Setting up rsyslog (5.8.6-1ubuntu9.1) ... Skipping profile in /etc/apparmor.d/disable: usr.sbin.rsyslogd [16191:16191:0911/214348:ERROR:chrome_browser_main_extra_parts_gtk.cc(51)] Startup refusing to run as root. [16194:16194:0911/214350:ERROR:chrome_browser_main_extra_parts_gtk.cc(51)] Startup refusing to run as root. [16196:01:48
oppositescopezwoah LINK DIDNT COPY!!01:49
oppositescopezhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6095109/01:49
wilee-nileeoppositescopez, How did you install chrome?01:50
khuevuhi guys01:50
oppositescopezwilee-nilee: default lubuntu01:50
khuevui have a problem with ubuntu01:50
KI7MTIt's Lubuntu, it's the default Browser01:50
NekoGloopMkIIUm...01:50
khuevui let it update to 3.5.0-40-generic01:50
khuevubut there is no linux-headers-3.5.0-40-generic in repository01:51
wilee-nileeoppositescopez, Ah, yes i is I would purge it and remove all files and reinstall it.01:51
wilee-nileeit*01:51
NekoGloopMkIIDoes anyone know how to get 16:9 resolution in latest xubuntu running in VirtualBox?01:51
khuevuthen my VM Player can't start because it depends on linux's headers01:51
oppositescopezKI7MT: should i purge it then? like he said?01:51
dr_willisNekoGloopMkII:  you installed the vbox guest addations?01:51
KI7MToppositescopez, that's about the only way I can think to get round this, is try and remove Chromium and re-install it if you can.01:51
NekoGloopMkIIdr_willis, yes.01:52
wilee-nileeoppositescopez, Might be the chrome file in .config something is amiss though01:52
oppositescopezKI7MT: commands for that?01:52
dr_willisNekoGloopMkII:  thats all i recall ever needing to do01:52
oppositescopezKI7MT: im gonna have to open firefox to connect back here01:52
NekoGloopMkIIHum...01:52
KI7MTsudo apt-get remove --purge chromium-browser01:52
NekoGloopMkIII'll try restarting again then.01:52
dr_willisNekoGloopMkII:  unless thers some quirk going on. you might want to check askubuntu.com and in #vbox01:52
oppositescopezKI7MT: then to instlal it back?01:53
KI7MTthen the an apt-clean autoclean and autoremove01:53
oppositescopezKI7MT: dang ima loose my skin and favorites right?01:53
KI7MTSave you Fav's first01:53
wilee-nileeoppositescopez, You can save your favourites01:53
KI7MToppositescopez, Bookmarks, Bookmarks Manager, export to html01:54
oppositescopez_ok im connected throught firefox about to run commands01:54
legend123Hello there. I have observed that in ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS, the size of files and folders in shown in SI units(Base 10) rather than IEC units(Base 2) inside nautilus file manager by default. Is there a way to change it to previous IES units in nautilus?01:54
KI7MTI dont know about the skins and plug-ins if any01:54
legend123I can't seem to find any option.01:55
oppositescopez_KI7MT: crap my plug ins too forgot about those x.x01:55
oppositescopez_KI7MT: oh well gota do what you gotta do i guess01:55
KI7MTthat could what's causing the problem :-) .. who knows.01:55
oppositescopez_KI7MT: lol there all disabled atm anyways01:55
KI7MTNo gaurentee this will fix it either.01:56
LostMonki can access my windows partition, but Im not able to bring any files over. Any ideas?01:56
uronuhow windows connect to ldap server without using samba?01:56
KI7MTbut the wagons all keep circling the browser at the moment.01:56
KI7MTuronu, pGina is an option, though I've not tested it.01:57
gurugeekHow can i connect to a wifi router using Wpa2 personal but using a password less than 8 characters? NetworkManager wont allow01:57
oppositescopez_KI7MT: ugh no way to find the theme again. took me weeks. oh well. anyways i closed my chrome and this is refreshed could you write the purge and install comands again for it?01:58
uronuKI7MT: I tried it i can connect to ldap server but can't go through windows desktop.01:58
an3khow can I check why Suspend / Hibernate isn't offered by my Ubuntu 13.04 32-Bit installation?01:58
oppositescopez_gurugeek: reaver, aircrack?01:59
KI7MToppositescopez, sudo apt-get remove --purge chromium-browser01:59
KI7MTthen sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean01:59
gurugeekoppositescopez_:  what is reaver?01:59
oppositescopez_gurugeek: are you trying to find the password?02:00
dr_willis!info reaver02:00
ubottureaver (source: reaver): brute force attack tool against Wifi Protected Setup PIN number. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4-2 (raring), package size 218 kB, installed size 584 kB02:00
oppositescopez_gurugeek: moniter your wireless card with aircrack and use brute force with reaver02:00
KI7MTuronu, you may want to ask in ubuntu-server, they may have better options.02:00
uronuis there a correct setup of pgina to connect with ldap server?02:00
roottoor02:00
uronuKI7MT: thanks02:00
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zubiri cant server warrzone210002:01
we6jboHi02:01
oppositescopez_KI7MT: OMG FOUND TE ERROR -.-02:01
Guest28206hi02:01
oppositescopez_KI7MT: LOOK at the paste bin from that..02:01
Guest28206who is this02:01
gurugeekoppositescopez_: no, NetworkManager wont allow to save a password leas than 8 characters. the connect button is greyed02:01
KI7MToppositescopez_, which pastebin ?02:02
oppositescopez_gurugeek: oh haha whoops i thought you were trying to fins the password never mind02:02
we6jboHow can I alphabetize a text file?02:02
legend123Anyone?02:03
oppositescopez_KI7MT:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095154/ this one02:03
waglewe6jbo: sort command?02:03
we6jboyeah02:03
we6jbowagle: yeah sort. I want to sort a file02:03
wagle"sort"02:03
dr_williswe6jbo:  the 'sort' command sorts text files02:03
we6jbodr_willis: ok I'll try that. Thanks dr_willis and wagle02:04
dr_willisand people say linux is hard. ;)02:04
oppositescopez_KI7MT: anyways now i sudo apt-get install chromium-browser right?02:04
KI7MToppositescopez_,Im confused, same error still there02:04
oppositescopez_KI7MT: no, different results.02:04
KI7MToppositescopez_, No, do this first02:05
TsarObombaman toyuchscreen with that is a mess02:05
TsarObombaeven on plasma active02:05
KI7MTsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:05
TsarObombait just moves the cursor02:05
an3kdr_willis: hard because complex :)02:05
KI7MToppositescopez_, then we'll go back after Chromium, when your uypdates are dont.02:05
KI7MTdone ...02:05
oppositescopez_KI7MT: didnt get errord from that apt-get02:06
KI7MTIs it updating ?02:06
oppositescopez_KI7MT: well the first one, im in process of distro , but im running a 100kb internet connection02:07
LostMonkany dual boot experts around?02:07
oppositescopez_LostMonk: grub, end of story02:07
LostMonkyeah, you fail already02:07
an3kLostMonk: Ubuntu and ... ?02:07
LostMonkwin 702:07
LostMonkits not letting me movee files from the win partition over02:07
KI7MToppositescopez_, Ok. Your not upgrading Distro's only updating to the latest in 12.10 or whatever your version is.02:07
oppositescopez_LostMonk:  hehe i dual boot win xp and lubuntu with it?02:07
an3kLostMonk: What filesystem does the ubuntu sys use?02:08
LostMonkthere is a lot more to dual booting than just grub02:08
oppositescopez_KI7MT:  you know what i ment ~.~02:08
LostMonkext 402:08
KI7MT:-)02:08
an3kLostMonk: Windows is stupid and cannot understand ext402:08
an3kor ext302:08
LostMonkwell shit02:08
an3kor ...02:08
an3k :)02:08
oppositescopez_LostMonk: haha i was reffering to a starting point :p02:08
oppositescopez_fat 32 for windows right?02:09
KI7MToppositescopez_, In any case, I'm glad it's updating, that's a good thing02:09
an3kLostMonk: you can find a kind of hacked driver for ext4 but these are not very reliable02:09
LostMonkthen should I add an extra partition in my linux side to cooy them to/02:09
LostMonkcopy*02:09
LostMonkfat 32?02:09
an3kfat32 works02:09
LostMonkyeah, only back in winxp02:09
wilee-nileentfs for sharing is common02:09
LostMonkthe win7 part is ntfs02:09
an3kbut max 4GB filesize and ...well ... FAT :)02:09
oppositescopez_KI7MT:  lol 17%. chugging along02:09
LostMonktrying to get all mymusic and stufff moved over to just kill that os02:10
KI7MTAs long as it's making progress, that's ok :-)02:10
an3kLostMonk: why not copying from ubuntu?02:10
oppositescopez_yeah ntfs failed when i ttried that i think FAT 32 is best?02:10
an3kif windows cant write onto ubuntu use ubuntu to read from windows :)02:10
LostMonkI am using ubuntu to move them over02:10
rscntwhat?02:11
rscnthow?02:11
oppositescopez_this is EXACTLY why i have an extra hard drive for storage02:11
LostMonkcould it be a missing mount option from the default ?02:11
LostMonksure oppositescopez_ , send me a $100 for an extra external drive02:11
an3kwell, afaik you have to manually mount an external partition02:12
an3kor lets say a "non OS"-partition :)02:12
LostMonkyeah, but its just right click mount02:12
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oppositescopez_LostMonk:  haha there not 100$ lol i use a 10 gig its all i need for music02:12
LostMonkwonder if I should be using a different set of options from cli02:12
LostMonklol02:12
an3kLostMonk: so what do you see if you try to access the win7 ntfs partition?02:13
LostMonkI have 215 gigs of music alone02:13
LostMonkan3k, I see everything, just not able to copy it over02:13
wilee-nilee120$ was a 2 terrabyte external02:13
oppositescopez_LostMonk:  and actualy i have 2 haha i had to cut down on music for my 500 gigs of movies :P02:13
an3kLostMonk: what'S the errormsg?02:13
LostMonk1 sec02:13
oppositescopez_KI7MT:  lol riding dead on 100 kbs  29 %02:14
an3kI once had a "full" 500 GB hdd. Windows thought it crashed and "fixed" the File Allocation Table. I lost everything. Since then I'm using Hardware RAID :)02:14
LostMonkheh, nm02:15
LostMonkI guess the last thing I tried worked02:15
LostMonkI just needed to remount it again02:15
LostMonkLOL02:15
an3k:)02:15
LostMonkbeen a long day02:15
LostMonk:P02:15
oppositescopez_KI7MT:  haha funny story about why my connections so bad02:15
an3kif you change mounting options its always better to manually remount ;)02:15
LostMonkstill wish we had native netflix support02:16
an3knever trust software you didn't built in a backdoor yourself :D02:16
LostMonkhehe02:16
oppositescopez_KI7MT:  it sais approx 30 minutes.. uhh, you gonna be around that long?02:16
LostMonkI dont have the time to invest for all that anymore02:16
LostMonkor Id be using arch02:16
an3kI would like to see trakt.tv support02:16
LostMonk:)02:16
LostMonkgues they updated the amd driver02:17
KI7MTYeah, Im build a box from scratch so will be here for a while. I have my own mirror at the hosue, so updates and installs are seriously fast.02:17
oppositescopez_am i allowed to talk about off-topic things while in the midst of getting help?02:17
LostMonki get an unsupported hardware graphic now02:17
Picioppositescopez_: if you do it in the offtopic channel, sure.02:17
dr_willis!netflix02:18
ubottuIf you use Netflix, there is an unofficial solution for using it in Ubuntu detailed in http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ - bug reports in https://bugs.launchpad.net/netflix-desktop02:18
an3koppositescopez_: as long as Pici doesn't notice :)02:18
LostMonkyeah, I dont use wine02:18
wilee-nileeLostMonk, It is all in a package it install sitself.02:18
wilee-nileeitself*02:18
oppositescopez_an3k: lol too late im guessing?02:19
LostMonknah, i dont use wine on principle02:19
oppositescopez_an3k: :p02:19
an3kLostMonk: Well, at least you can see something. I can use Ubuntu on my main computer because after installation and login the whole system starts to heavily lag and finally completely freeze up02:19
oppositescopez_haha how do you pm again?02:19
LostMonkack02:19
LostMonkno bueno02:19
wilee-nileeI don't use wine, but I have no principals. lol02:19
an3koppositescopez_: /msg nickname text02:19
virgenmadreis there any other virus scanner in Linux other then clamtk02:19
wilee-nilee!av02:19
ubottuAntivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus02:19
an3kLostMonk: I mean I cannot02:19
LostMonktry different grub options on boot?02:20
virgenmadrewell that is precisely the problem :) I am scanning a really really infected computer under windows its a separate hard drive.02:20
reisiovirgenmadre: there doesn't need to be02:20
reisiobut yes there is02:20
an3kvirgenmadre: on my nas i have clamav but i guess its the same02:20
LostMonkget a boot cd to work on it02:21
KI7MTAvast, Bitdefender, Clam adn AVG, but bet one is dont use root / sudo and ya got no issues :-)02:21
wilee-nileevirgenmadre, Most of the major AV providers have live cd's02:21
an3kLostMonk: you mean me?02:21
reisioyeah clamtk would be a frontend to clamav02:21
KI7MTbest one ..02:21
LostMonkan3k, yeah02:21
LostMonkI know mint had crazy issues on here if I didnt use a grub option02:21
dr_willisits best to always use several differnt av scanners to be sure.02:21
an3khmm, never played that many with these. I guess its gfx card related because I saw some typical errors on screen02:21
LostMonknoauto something or other02:21
an3khave a GTX580 with 3 GB RAM. that may be a issue :)02:22
LostMonkpossible02:22
LostMonkbrb, gotta reboot after the updates02:22
legend123In Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS, there is a blank screen after screensaver when it is idle for more than 2-3 hours. Is this a bug?02:23
legend123There is no problem in accessing tty terminals.02:23
oppositescopez_an3k:  haha im so outdated. -nvidia geforce 28002:24
dr_willislegend123:  likely its a power saveing setting kicking in aftger the screensaver has ran for a while.02:24
kostkonlegend123, that's normal behaviour. the gnome screensaver nowadays is just the blank screen. if you want fancy screensavers, you need to install xscreensaver02:24
an3koppositescopez_: still have a 295 here but I don't like these Dual-GPU cards. Not until they're like Dual/Quad-Core CPUs ;)02:24
KI7MToppositescopez_, my workstation has 4x 9800 GTX'a LOL .. but they still work so not breaking a box that works :-)02:25
virgenmadrewilee-nilee, ohh nice alright will take that into consideration02:26
kostkonlegend123, or you mean blank screen after the screensaver has kicked in02:26
legend123dr_willis, kostkon : It's not about that. I have already installed xscreensaver. When after some time i come back to my computer and try to remove screensaver by clicking or by keyboard, then all i get is a mouse cursor and a blank screen.02:26
kostkonlegend123, hmm that's not normal then02:26
an3kI once owned a 3Dfx Voodoo5 6000...what a card02:26
oppositescopez_KI7MT:  haha if i had that my cpu would be like , nope lol too much (melts)02:27
legend123lol yes.02:27
wilee-nileevirgenmadre, The user not have a backup image?02:28
oppositescopez_I HAD 2 TITANS> nope just kidding im poor02:28
legend123After that i have to manually restart lightdm (sudo service lightdm restart) in tty terminal to get back normal graphical interface.02:28
kostkonlegend123, maybe the card tells the monitor to go into standby mode and it fails. actually, how are you overcoming this when it happens02:29
oppositescopez_even though i am using like , the most expencive thermaltake case (with its lovely 700w power suply) on the market02:29
virgenmadrewilee-nilee, nope02:29
an3kisn't there a setting in the bios what kind of standby/suspend you want for the display?02:29
virgenmadrethis hard drive is one of the worst cases that I have seen.02:29
virgenmadreI am just wondering I have finished a scan with clamtk02:30
an3kvirgenmadre: IBM DTLA? :D02:30
virgenmadrethat I left for running for a friend02:30
oppositescopez_virgenmadre: haha . you would be suprised what ive dealt with with hard drives :p02:30
legend123kostkon: This problem has started just after a fresh installation of 12.04.3 LTS. It wasn't there in 11.10 earlier. And i am on dual boot with windows 7. In windows 7, there's no such black screen after screensaver.02:30
virgenmadreit shows the history and the file, but how do I know if the viruses have been quarantined?02:30
wilee-nileevirgenmadre, I would not fix it, you can't, pull out what is needed and do a fresh install.02:30
an3ksame advice from me02:31
oppositescopez_KI7MT: for the update 70% but now says 50 minutes o.0?02:31
virgenmadreI already did a Linux install on a separate hard drive which is where I am talking to you in02:31
kostkonlegend123, do you reboot when it happens?02:31
virgenmadrebut before making a back up of any files on that virus infected beast02:31
KI7MToppositescopez_, that's ok, it's updating, that's what is important.02:31
virgenmadreI want to take out as much as possible02:31
legend123kostkon: No. I just restart lightdm service and everything is normal again.02:32
oppositescopez_KI7MT:  oh never mind had a connection drop i hadnt noticed, will be done in no time. 20 min tops02:32
an3kvirgenmadre: i hope you're here because his next OS is Ubuntu and not because you needed help with a virus scanner?! :)02:32
kostkonlegend123, ok02:32
virgenmadreIt is already running Ubuntu :)02:32
an3kvery nice :)02:32
kostkonlegend123, have you checked the gnome power and display settings, in case they are overriding the xcreesaver ones at some point02:33
legend123kostkon: Yes. It's alright. I have told it to "Don't Suspend".02:34
virgenmadredoes clamtk after scanning automatically get rid of the viruses?02:34
virgenmadre:( this is what I am unsure of02:34
kostkonlegend123, also have you tried using a lighter 2d/non 3d screensaver in xscreensaver in case that it causes your X etc to crash02:34
virgenmadreI have not used the software enough to know that02:35
virgenmadreI dont have time to wait for another scan02:35
KI7MTvirgenmadre, It's unlikely, though not impossible, that you have any virus at all on your system.02:36
legend123kostkon: I haven't tried this thing yet.02:36
oppositescopez_how do you join the offtopic chat?02:36
kostkonlegend123, try setting xscreensaver to use only one screensaver, not randomly and select the simplest one you can find and see if that will make a difference02:37
dr_willisvirgenmadre:   it might have that option, but by default i think it just shows/logs what its found02:37
legend123kostkon: Thank you. I will try this. By the way, can you look at my dmesg logs and cross check?02:39
kostkonlegend123, have you found any errors in them?02:39
legend123kostkon: There are some entries at the bottom some information about display etc. and i am not sure what they exactly mean. Have a look at this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095252/02:42
oppositescopezwhoops dissconected02:43
oppositescopezis the guy i was talking to still here02:43
oppositescopezKI7MT: ok its done downloading02:44
kostkonlegend123, everything looks normal and the warning "WARNING! power/level is deprecated; use power/control instead" seems to be usb related02:44
kostkonlegend123, you could check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:45
KI7MToppositescopez, run the update again, the just to be sure all is well,  I'd do a re-boot befoer we get into Chromium.02:46
oppositescopezKi7MT: so is this updating software?02:47
oppositescopezKI7MT: firefox wants to restart now brb02:48
oppositescopezKI7MT: oh wait its still unpacking02:48
KI7MTYeah, make sure it's dont updating before doing anything  else.02:48
KI7MTit's done .. .. ..02:49
oppositescopezKI7MT: oh yeah i guess this could potentially be a ubuntu question.. is there any way to install windows drivers to ubuntu to be copied overr to windows?02:50
kostkonoppositescopez, none i know of02:50
oppositescopezKI7MT: wireless card drivers are not on my windows, so i cant connect unless i have the drivers.02:51
KI7MTYes, you modprobe drivers, but it's not for the faint at heart :-)02:51
oppositescopezthen im never gonna be able to connect on windows :/02:51
oppositescopezoh02:52
KI7MTModprobe Windows Drivers to Linux that is.02:52
kostkonoppositescopez, download the driver file, access it from windows?02:52
dr_willisto be copied over to windows? Im not clear on what you are trying to do02:52
oppositescopezkostkon: i cant02:52
dr_williswindows xan acxcess files on your ubuntu box if you set it up right.02:52
oppositescopezkostkon: haha i broke my dualboot not to long ago and have to move the sata cables each time for each boot02:52
KI7MToppositescopez, That's what I'd do, while on Linux, DL the Windos driver, save to USB or shatever, and load it when you boot windows.02:52
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oppositescopezok ill try that later02:53
kostkonoppositescopez, is it a dual boot on 2 disks?02:53
oppositescopezKI7MT: i got "system program problem detected" just now02:53
oppositescopezkostkon: haha i have 4 hard drives 1 windows 1 lubuntu 2 for 110 gigs of extra storage02:53
legend123kostkon: You are right. That usb warning is related to a external hard drive when i safely remove it. Xorg logs seem normal to me except some errors starting at line number 324. Have a look at this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095289/02:54
oppositescopezkostkon: ill just copy it to my extra storage02:54
kostkonoppositescopez, yeap. you can even extra the file if needed be, if you install 7zip in ubuntu02:54
kostkonextract*02:54
oppositescopezkostkon:  oh ok thanks :)02:55
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kostkonoppositescopez, extract .exes or .cabs02:55
KI7MToppositescopez, I get that too sometimes, mine is from a stupid Weather APP that I installed.02:55
oppositescopezKI7MT: i get it every time on startup02:56
oppositescopezKI7MT: like so many times02:56
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oppositescopezKI7MT:  but it doesnt bother me02:56
oppositescopezKI7MT: nor affect me in any way other than having to close it02:56
kostkonlegend123, everything looks fine, i think02:56
KI7MToppositescopez, to stop getting those msg's: gksudo gedit /etc/default/apport and change the text "enabled=1" to "enabled-0"02:56
oppositescopezyou mean enabled = 0?02:57
KI7MTHowever, that disables all msg's so if you wont get any msg's then02:57
oppositescopezdont need them02:58
KI7MT1=Yes I want them, and 0=No, dont bug me with that noise.02:58
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oppositescopezhaha i just noticed how i spaced that out :P so many years of c++ is catching habits02:58
oppositescopezso this Saving to: `jdk-7u40-linux-i586.tar.gz' is going to take an ungodly amount of time03:00
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reisiooppositescopez: not too late to give up on Java™ ;)03:02
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oppositescopezrescept_: couldnt live without jave03:03
oppositescopez*java03:03
oppositescopezwait fail03:03
oppositescopezreisio: couldnt live without java03:04
reisiowhy not? :)03:04
oppositescopezhaha wrong person the first time :p03:04
oppositescopezreisio:  what would i do without runescape ^_^03:04
dr_willisoppositescopez:  hang out on irc more,03:05
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dr_willis:)03:05
dr_willisbbl03:05
oppositescopezreisio: i enjoy writing bots in my free time just to improve my coding skills03:05
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totemhow to be ubuntu member?03:06
kostkontotem, not so easy as it sounds, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership03:07
totemkostkon, lemme check03:07
KI7MToppositescopez, while Java may be a solution to some it's the root of many prob's for others :-)03:08
oppositescopezKI7MT: been there, done that03:08
oppositescopezKI7MT: actualy ran iced tea i think it was? for the longest time03:09
oppositescopezKI7MT: haha something along the lines of that03:09
oppositescopezKI7MT:  yeah its IcedTea03:11
oppositescopezif anyones interested (as it is related to problems in ubuntu ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IcedTea Wiki page :D03:13
kruxlinux17mdk03:14
kruxoops wrong chan :P03:15
oppositescopezdr_willis: what is irc?03:15
karen_I am about to lose my mind. Why not my ubuntu computer not see my windows 7 computer?03:17
ClumsyFairyQueenoppositescopez, your on it right now03:17
oppositescopezClumsyFairyQueen:  what does it stand for?03:17
karen_Does anyone have any idea on how to share a hard drive between two computer that are 30 ft away with out spending more then $300?03:18
ClumsyFairyQueenkaren_, check workgroup and if other computer ispingable03:18
oppositescopezKI7MT:  apparently i still have iced tea but its disabled03:18
ClumsyFairyQueenif workgroup is not the same on both computers, it wont work.03:18
karen_nothing is ping about. they do not see each other. I hate them both.03:18
KI7MTThat's probably a good thing :-)03:18
ClumsyFairyQueenoppositescopez, Internet Relay Chat03:18
karen_how do I see what workgroup my ubuntu computer is?03:19
xmetal!irc03:19
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines03:19
oppositescopezhaha i guess ill hang around this one more often :P03:19
oppositescopeznew bookmark :D03:20
ClumsyFairyQueenoppositescopez, #ubuntuforums is also quite nice, as long as you use it only as a social chat channel :)03:20
oppositescopezi use things as ther ment to be used :D03:20
ClumsyFairyQueen:D03:21
ClumsyFairyQueenjudging from the topic that we change each day there, we use the topic improperly...03:22
oppositescopezClumsyFairyQueen:  ok maybe rules are ment to be bent, but not completely broken03:22
wilee-nileemight be bacon, might be maple bars03:23
wilee-nilee;)03:24
oppositescopezKI7MT:  uhh, it finished.... with an error x.x03:24
KI7MTthat's a bummer, that's the error03:24
oppositescopezKI7MT:  it finished with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095387/03:24
wilee-nileeClumsyFairyQueen, Whay up queenie03:24
wilee-nileewhat*03:24
ClumsyFairyQueenhwy wilee-nilee03:25
ClumsyFairyQueen*hey03:25
ClumsyFairyQueenlong time not see03:25
oppositescopezKI7MT:  lol whats cups??03:25
ClumsyFairyQueenCommon Unix Printing System03:25
wilee-nilee;)03:25
ClumsyFairyQueenor something like that03:25
KI7MTPrinter stuff .. I do a reboot, and update again, see where we're at.03:25
oppositescopezshould i try update again before reboot like you said earlier?03:25
KI7MTNo we'll do that after re-boot.03:26
oppositescopezoh my software updater showed up before i did that. isnt that what i just did? should i just close it?03:26
rscnthi03:26
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oppositescopezKI7MT:  or did i just o something else?03:27
KI7MTYes, close the updater window, shutdown -r03:27
oppositescopezk03:27
KI7MTthe updater was catching up from when  we unhung the Chromium stuff.03:28
oppositescopezyeah03:28
oppositescopezbtw that shutdown command failed :p03:28
oppositescopezTry `shutdown --help' for more information.03:28
oppositescopezhaha03:28
kruxshutdown -h now03:28
oppositescopezsame result03:29
KI7MTLOL it wasnt' a command, proper command is: sudo shutdown -r now03:29
oppositescopezoh whoops03:29
oppositescopez:P03:29
oppositescopez_im back03:33
oppositescopez_hating now that i have this theme removed03:33
oppositescopez_it just updated03:33
oppositescopez_KI7MT: so update again?03:33
oppositescopez_hello?03:34
oppositescopez_did i break this again ~.~03:35
ClumsyFairyQueenoppositescopez_, btw, what problem are you having - cant see what it is since my server decided to go into a RAID rebuild03:35
KI7MTYeah, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade03:35
oppositescopez_KI7MT:  i cant see the time in the bottom left any more (just throwing that out there)03:35
KI7MToppositescopez_, Im compilign code in xterm also, so dont ahve this up all the time.03:36
oppositescopez_KI7MT:  yeah sorry i just didnt know if this had stopped working again03:36
KI7MTYep, Lubuntu bottom bar has issues, things disappear, get hung up, all sorts of things.03:36
chuchohi all. looking for recommendations for visualizing a tcpdump pcap capture file03:36
oppositescopez_KI7MT:  found the problem03:36
KI7MTwith what the clock ?03:37
oppositescopez_KI7MT:  do you happen to know the color code format for it?03:37
KI7MTor the main problem03:37
oppositescopez_yeah03:37
oppositescopez_clock03:37
KI7MTcolor-code = No, pass on that one.03:37
KI7MTI've not spent that much time in Lub.03:38
KI7MTI test the installs for UB QA, but that's about it.03:38
ClumsyFairyQueenchucho, wireshark03:38
oppositescopez_KI7MT:  know an alternative ?03:38
oppositescopez_KI7MT:  got an error at the end of upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095416/03:39
chuchoClumsyFairyQueen , thats what im trying rigth now. Was looking for any other alternatives with more visualization options03:39
ClumsyFairyQueenchucho, tnv maybe03:40
ClumsyFairyQueenhttp://tnv.sourceforge.net/03:40
chuchofor some reason tnv doesnt display anything after "import pcap file"03:41
DaphneGreengrasssorry, those are the only two I normally use :|03:41
KI7MToppositescopez_, Alternative to what? ?    man this apparmor is a pain, as is this silly Chromium browser.03:42
oppositescopez_KI7MT:  an alternative clock :P03:42
oppositescopez_KI7MT:  apparently you cant change the colors03:42
jribKI7MT, oppositescopez_: actually, this is probably due to whatever /usr/bin/start is.03:43
jribKI7MT, oppositescopez_: because "start" probably should be /sbin/start03:43
oppositescopez_that actualy just started showing up03:43
oppositescopez_the /usr/bin03:43
oppositescopez_JESUS03:44
jriboppositescopez_: what *is* it?03:44
oppositescopez_everything just broke03:44
oppositescopez_uhh im just gonna leave my toolbar alone x.x03:44
oppositescopez_and the directory usr/bin just started showing up after i deleted chrome03:45
KI7MTGood Plan, fix one issue at a time :-)03:45
oppositescopez_i just got like a broken screen with alot of system problems once i removed clock o.003:45
oppositescopez_ok ill look at that03:46
DaphneGreengrassoppositescopez_, you should have seen when i removed networkmanager.... :D03:46
KI7MTI thinks it's getting on the apparmor profile, and it needs to be updated but I'm just not sure.03:46
oppositescopez_found the problem, know whats causing it, feel like an idiot!!!!!03:47
oppositescopez_let me give advise to ALL ubuntu users in the ENTIRE world03:48
oppositescopez_NEVER< EVER, EVER, install modio through terminal -.- just dont03:48
oppositescopez_i did that and i thouroughly remember being redirected to porn. multiple times. never know why. its cause it created this file  when i sudo-apt get installed modio http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095429/03:49
oppositescopez_and this has been trying to run every time i installed anything03:50
oppositescopez_but because i use  "sudo" to install it wouldnt run the chromes in that file03:50
KI7MTHmmmm to much *orn surfing :-)03:50
KI7MTI was thinking the Chromium profile was m,issing, and that is why it kept hanging, was about to write a Bug up on it :-)03:51
wilee-nileeoppositescopez_, This is a family channel do not post stuff like that.03:51
oppositescopez_whoops03:51
oppositescopez_it was advise to never use modio. completely related :p03:52
oppositescopez_but it wont happen again ~.~03:52
KI7MTOk, so you removed modio .. and then what?03:52
oppositescopez_haha no all i have to do is delete that file.03:53
KI7MTAhh .. ok . then you can update without getting the rsyslog and chromium errors ?03:53
oppositescopez_i never actualy got around to removing i ti just stopped using it03:53
oppositescopez_about to find out03:53
KI7MTkk03:54
oppositescopez_yep ^_^03:54
KI7MTSo, no errors now ?03:55
oppositescopez_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095438/ see for yourself03:55
LinuxGoldrm -rf start?!03:55
LinuxGoldwhoa...03:56
oppositescopez_haha :p03:56
KI7MTYOu shoudl probablt do an autoremove and autoclean also: sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean03:56
KI7MTshould probably ..03:56
KI7MTthen update, upgrade and then sudo apt-get install chromium-browser03:57
oppositescopez_haha now i can continue the only reason i wanted this error to go away :D03:58
oppositescopez_trying to get league of legends to run on linux ;D03:58
KI7MTThat's not hard, apparmor is hard ;'-)03:59
oppositescopez_so this does mean no more errors right?03:59
sqlnoobI'm trying to change my motd however my changes to /var/run/motd does not become permanent. I'm not trying to install update-motd but trying to do manually. Is there something I'm missing?04:00
KI7MToppositescopez_, Yeah, your all sorted, do the updates, then, re-install chromium04:00
oppositescopez_wow only took all day04:01
KI7MTMy advise, go through the GUI package manager, Synaptic or Ubuntu SW Center.04:01
oppositescopez_but why would modio do something like that?04:01
KI7MTcommand-line is good, but one can get into deep-woods in a hurry.04:01
KI7MTWithout looking at the Modio source code, there's no telling why, I would "NOT" re-install it.04:02
oppositescopez_not planning on it x.x04:03
* LinuxGold is running Ubuntu desktop inside iMac04:03
KI7MTOk, im back to glibc and binutils compiling :-)04:03
oppositescopez_haha ok, im off to continue doind... well .. whatever it is that i do :p04:04
qinsqlnoob: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man5/update-motd.5.html04:13
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FloodBot1Statyk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:19
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Alveinhi all05:03
Alveinhow to stress test to ethernet card ?05:03
Dr_Willisload a bunch of torrents ;)05:04
arctanxHi there, I'm trying to create a samba audit file by logging to local5. When I add an rsyslog conf "local5.notice /var/log/samba/audit.log" then "& ~" on the next line, it does stop the messages appearing in /var/log/syslog. Unfortunately audit.log is created but has no content. Could anyone please give me a pointer?05:05
AlveinDr_Willis, :) I have the server periodically lost touch with the outside world, I want to find the reason, I think the iron .. Torrent will not help :)05:06
Alveiniron=hardware )05:06
Dr_WillisAlvein:  its likely the dmesg messges will mention if theres some sort of hardware issue going on with the netsork card05:07
clue_hIf you stress test it you may overwrite important info in logs that may have told you about the drop05:07
clue_hor increase the haystack05:08
Alveindmesg | grep eth is empty :)05:08
Konigsberg7I got 12.04 non LTS05:08
Dr_Willismonitor it for a few days perhaps05:08
Konigsberg7 is there still support on 12.04 not LTS05:09
Konigsberg7non*05:09
Dr_Willis!12.0405:09
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120405:09
AlveinDr_Willis, this problem since Monday05:09
Alvein:)05:09
Dr_Willishow do you get 12.04 nonlts ?05:09
clue_hI was thinking the same.05:09
wilee-nileeKonigsberg7, if it's canonical you have lts05:09
Konigsberg7 i dont have lts, i have 12.04 regular xubuntu05:10
Konigsberg7 as in regular meaning non-lts05:10
Dr_Willisthen you should just say you hve Xubuntu 12.0405:10
Dr_Willisand you should just ask the question05:10
Dr_Willislts dosent really mean a whole lot for most people/cases05:10
Konigsberg7alright, I have Xubuntu 12.04 (non LTS), is still updates still coming to it or is it done?05:10
Dr_WillisKonigsberg7:  it still has updates as far as i know.05:11
Dr_Willisits not like a bug fix in  for the lts supported packages will see you are on xubuntu and refuse to install05:11
Dr_Willisi think you are worring way to much about lts/nonlts05:11
Dr_Willisinstall ubuntu 12.04.4 or whatever and install xubuntu-desktop package if you want to.05:12
Konigsberg7no i was just wondering05:12
Konigsberg7i dont care if support ends or not, i was just curious if it did05:13
Dr_Willislts is mainly support for a core set of packages for security fixs05:13
Dr_Willisand with 12.04 they have sprt of expaneded it a little bit to include a few other things.05:13
Juiffihello!05:13
Dr_Willis12.04.4 for example has updted kernel and  the X stack i belive05:13
JuiffiSo, after some problems I got my system to run. The C1E support was broken, probably by the mobo05:14
Juiffinow everythin is stable05:14
Juiffibut Wolf:ET is annoying me05:15
Juiffithere is no sound05:15
Juiffino matter what I do05:15
Dr_Willisthats not supriseding05:15
Dr_Willisthat game is ancient. :)05:15
Juiffi"echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss"05:15
Dr_Willisi rember sound issues with it like years and years ago.05:15
Juiffireturns just No such file or directory05:16
JuiffiYep, but we still throw LAN-parties and it's an all-time favourite05:16
Dr_Williscould be the oss support backwards support has finally been removed05:16
Juiffiwell, that pretty much does it then?05:17
Juiffiit's beyond fix?05:17
JuiffiFUBAR?05:17
Dr_Willisi dont have that file here. but i am on 13.1005:17
Juiffihttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnemyTerritory#Sound_Issues I've been following this05:18
shajeenis ubuntu 14.0 released?05:18
Juiffipretty much all I could do is done05:18
Dr_Willisand how old is that guide? ;)05:18
Juiffino idea05:18
Juiffi:D05:18
Dr_Willis13.10 - 2013, 10th month.. (version # is the release date)05:18
Juiffilast edited 201205:18
JuiffiIäm on the LTS05:19
Juiffidamn finnish keyboard05:19
Juiffiä is right next to '05:19
Dr_Willis!info oss-compat05:19
ubottuoss-compat (source: oss-compat): Open Sound System (OSS) compatibility package. In component universe, is extra. Version 2ubuntu1 (raring), package size 4 kB, installed size 54 kB05:19
Dr_Willisperhaps you need that package?05:19
JuiffiHmm, i'nn install it05:19
Dr_Willisi just googled for ubuntu oss support   ;) and saw that mentioned05:19
Juiffiecho "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss still fails05:20
Dr_Willishttp://superuser.com/questions/491822/how-to-run-oss-dependent-application-dev-dsp05:20
Dr_Willisis there a /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss ?05:21
Dr_Willisperhaps your path is wrong05:21
Dr_Willis!info alsa-oss05:21
ubottualsa-oss (source: alsa-oss): ALSA wrapper for OSS applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.25-1 (raring), package size 31 kB, installed size 121 kB (Only available for linux-any)05:21
Dr_Willistry that one perhaps also. ;)05:22
Juiffialsa-oss package seem legit05:22
Dr_Willisalsa-oss which provides an aoss command. Then run aoss program to magically give program oss emulation.05:22
Juiffiyep05:22
Juiffiwill try ->05:22
Dr_Willis'aoss command'05:22
* Dr_Willis is just hitting up google and the forums and askubuntu.com - no idea of any of this works05:23
JuiffiStill broken05:23
Dr_Willisat least some of these tips are dated in 2012 ;) so are not 5+ yr old guides05:23
Dr_Williswhat command did you run exactly?05:23
Juiffiaoss et?05:24
Dr_Willisyou are asking me? I dont know wht you ran. Heh,   been literally 5+ years since i last ran ET05:25
Dr_Willisi thought there was a remake of it that used the data files but had a more mondern engine05:25
Dr_Willisyou were doing those echo commands as root?05:26
Juiffisudo -i does the trick I presume?05:27
Dr_Willisyep.05:27
Dr_Willishmm. this url says it can work with alsa/pulse  near the end.   http://askubuntu.com/questions/17579/how-to-fix-sound-in-wolfenstein-enemy-territory05:28
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Dr_Willishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/getdeb.net/+bug/996082     mention a bug in the game/lib and a fix also.. and  a link to the .deb at getdeb ;)05:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 996082 in GetDeb Software Portal "No sound in Enemy Territory on 64-bit Ubuntu" [Medium,Fix released]05:30
JuiffiYeah, jsut removed the old .run file and going to getdeb/playdeb05:30
JuiffiFed up with trickery05:31
Dr_Willisyep. seen several guides say the ones from Getdeb worked05:31
JuiffiLol, maybe I should actually keep up with the progress05:40
Juiffijust added playdeb repo and apt-get install enemy-territory05:40
Juiffiall woks05:40
JuiffiI'm gettin too old05:40
Juiffi*work05:41
ackpacketIs there a difference between putting the ubuntu dvd on a usb, and running the "live cd" option, vs actually installing ubuntu to the usb?05:43
Dr_Willisyou can do a live-usb setup  which is the dvd on usb + a peristant save file.05:43
ackpacketis there a speed difference?05:44
Dr_WillisOR do a full install to a usb flash drive. like you would to a hard drive05:44
ackpacketright, those are the two options I am examining05:44
Dr_Willisa USB should be faster then a dvd i imagine05:44
Dr_WillisI do full installs to USB all the time.05:44
ackpacketMine usually fail miserably05:44
JuiffiI'd put my money on Full install on USB05:44
Dr_Willisa live+persistant save - is more for testing/short term ussage05:44
Dr_Willisive never had a full install on usb fail on me,05:45
ackpacketIt's always something05:45
ackpacketalways05:45
Dr_Willisive definatly had live+peristant - have all sorts of weirdness05:45
wilee-nileeme neither05:45
ackpacketfor instance, once when doing a full install, I was able to select the usb drive at some point05:45
ackpacketbut when it came to the bootloader, it only gave me the option of applying it to my computer's actual HD05:45
Dr_Willisyou can only do so many changes/updates to the persistant save befor it gets goofed up.05:45
ackpacketanother time, the install went smoothly, but when trying to start the OS, it would always freeze05:46
Dr_Willisthe pull down menu for me almost always showe the proper usb drive these days05:46
wilee-nileeackpacket, Are you familiar with using the dropdown in the manual option?05:46
ackpacketwilee-nilee: no05:46
Dr_Willisi always use the 'manual' partioning  snce i want to make the swap partion  512mb in size in most cases05:46
ackpackettbh, I'm unfamiliar with linux on the whole, so I don't even grasp the importance of the various partitions05:47
Dr_Willisi often make a /boot/ partition because i set up the usb to also boot the ISO files just in case ;)05:47
wilee-nileeackpacket, ah, that is important for placing grub.05:47
ackpacketgrub is...?05:47
ackpacketIt has to do with booting, i know that much05:47
wilee-nileethe bootloader05:47
Dr_WillisGrub needs to go on the MBR of the hard driv you boot05:47
ackpacketWhy does linux need a loader like grub?  Do all OS's use a setup like that?05:47
Dr_Willisif you install to the usb thats on sdc , you need to be sure grub is going onto sdc, NOT sdc1, not sda, not sdb ;)05:48
ackpacketmaybe I shouldn't be bothering this chan with basic questions though05:48
wilee-nileeackpacket, You could manual boot it.05:48
Dr_Willisackpacket:  windows has its own bootloader its called  'ntldr' dos has its own called. err.. mssys.dos or somting05:48
wilee-nileebcd from vista on05:48
Dr_Willislive cds normally use isolinux as their bootloader05:48
Dr_Willislive usbs normally use syslinux05:49
Dr_WillisRaspberryPi - does somthing totally different. ;) but thats because the Pi is Special ;P05:49
ackpacketWhich of these two options would the two of you use for applying a full install to the usb:  I could run the "live-cd" from usbA, and select full install and apply it to usbB, OR I could download the installer that you can run on a windows machine, and select the USB to install to05:50
Dr_Willisackpacket:  the installe ryou run on windows. is wubi..  AVOIDE wubi05:50
Dr_Willisthats not a normal full install at all.05:50
ackpacketI love the pi, it's saved me so much effort when developing specific devices.  Can you imagine trying to recode TCP/IP in chips like the avr?05:50
Dr_Willisboot live usbA -> install to bigger usb B05:51
ackpacketis this something I can do on a virtual pc without any problems?05:51
Dr_Willisvirtual pc - installing to a real plysical flash drive?05:52
ackpacketsetup virtual pc to boot from ubuntu iso, select full install, apply to real physical flash drive05:52
Dr_Willisno idea how it would handle the bootloader with that setup. it may get confused05:52
Dr_Willisif using Vbox. the #vbox guys may know of any issues05:53
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Guest71445hi06:13
Guest71445its my 1st time logging into this06:14
Guest71445im new to xubuntu .. after my windows since 12yrs with it06:16
aeon-ltdok06:16
aeon-ltdGuest71445: welcome to the world of *buntus! :)06:17
Guest71445thanks aeon!!!06:17
ry_hello06:18
Guest71445i hope u all must have been using *buntus for a long time06:18
ry_anyone on?06:18
aeon-ltdry_: plenty06:19
Guest71445im facing wifi problems .. its getting disconnected randomly and it wont connect.. though it shows connected06:19
blackvswhiteGuest71445: hello and welcome ;)06:19
ry_does anyone have any experience running ubuntu on a macbook? I cant seem to get the drivers to work to use WIFI06:19
blackvswhiteGuest71445: you checked your airplan mode on the card? some card drivers don't handle airplane mode properly06:19
Guest71445thanks blackvswhite!!!! hope u all guide me enjoying *buntu06:20
aeon-ltdry_: i've used ubuntu on a white macbook from 2008, it uses a broadcom and works with the wl06:20
ry_yeah mines a broadcom card too, and ive found the driver i need to download, but i cant figure out what to do with the zip file06:21
Guest71445by laptop model is HP 1000 1b02au06:21
ry_if i try to install with the built-in installer, it just says like nah06:21
Guest71445i installed xubuntu 13.04 AMD laptop06:22
Ben64Guest71445: run "lspci | grep -i net" and pastebin the result06:23
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Guest71445ill try it now .. thanks ben6406:23
aeon-ltdry_: are you following this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx06:24
Guest71445 ben64 this is wat i got "03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)06:25
Guest7144507:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. Device 539b06:25
Guest71445"06:25
Guest71445thanks aeon im reading it06:26
agthomaNewbie in the room.....everyone lock your firewalls.06:27
Ben64Guest71445: aeon-ltd's link was for ry_06:27
aeon-ltdyeah........06:27
Guest71445oh hahhaaaa ok06:28
Dr_Williseasiest way to get stubborn cards going is to either. run a wire :) untill you get the  addational-drivers tool to install the drivers needed.. or buy a nice wifi dongle that works out of the box. and use it to get the addational-drivers ;)06:28
agthomaSo I just loaded Ubuntu 13.04 with Gnome....but I have no sound.  Multiple message boards have been unable to solve my problem.  Anyone know how to fix it?06:28
johnlangathow do i correct this  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:28
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johnlangatAm new in ubuntu06:29
Dr_Willisjohnlangat:  only ONE app that is manageing the packages is allowed to run at a time06:29
aeon-ltdagthoma: fresh install?06:29
Dr_Willisjohnlangat:  so close any other apt tools.06:29
agthomayes06:29
Dr_Willis!fixapt06:29
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »06:29
aeon-ltdagthoma: do you have a dedicated sound card? like a pci one?06:29
agthomaI'm on a 2008 macbook air....so it's some little ghetto card.06:30
aeon-ltdok06:30
aeon-ltdagthoma: check basic stuff like alsamixer, your source, headphone jack occupied etc06:30
agthomaalready checked the alsa mixer and tried a force reload on it per a message board.  I'm not sure about the headphone jack occupied though06:31
aeon-ltdagthoma: is your jack physically occupied?06:32
agthomaOh....no06:32
agthomaLOL06:32
johnlangathow do i lock administration directory ubuntu 12.0406:32
agthomaI thought that was some kind of fantsy linux lingo. :)06:33
Ben64johnlangat: what are you really trying to accomplish06:33
johnlangatam trying to run sudo apt-get update06:34
johnlangatby i i get message: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:34
Ben64ok, well close synaptic or update manager or ubuntu software center or whatever is using it06:34
johnlangatBen64:All are closed06:35
Dr_Willis!fixapt | johnlangat06:36
ubottujohnlangat: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »06:36
kostkonjohnlangat, something is still running, give:  ps -A | grep apt06:36
Dr_Willisyou could log out/back in and see if it closes out the stuff.. or try that command the bot mentions above.06:36
Dr_Willisits possible the update manager is doing somting in the background also06:37
Ben64or "sudo fuser -v /var/lib/dpkg/lock" will show you what is using it06:37
ry_willing to paypal 20 bucks to whoever can help me solve this wifi driver issue06:38
agthomaWilling to help....or actually able to solve? :)06:38
Ben64ry_: use $8 of that $20 to get a better supported wireless usb?06:39
blackvswhitery_: ^06:39
kostkon!broadcom | ry_06:39
ubottury_: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx06:39
kostkonhmm06:40
Ben64broadcom is a mess, i opted for a usb card06:40
blackvswhitesame06:40
blackvswhitei went realtek06:40
blackvswhitenever looked back06:40
Fuduswhoo for china06:40
Fudus's rebel province06:40
Dr_Willisuse a usb dongle..  use it to run the addational-drivers tool to let the system install the broadcom stuff06:40
Ben64i couldnt get my laptop to work with broadcom, i got a usb one instead06:41
johnlangatThank guys indeed ubuntu software was using it06:42
kostkonry_, already checked in the additional drivers?06:43
Devids06:44
ShapeShifter499hi06:46
ShapeShifter499how do I start a command at login not as root?06:46
aeon-ltdShapeShifter499: pretty sure you can add stuff to sttartup items upon successful login06:47
ry_kostkon> yes06:49
manojkumarhello06:49
reisioShapeShifter499: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup06:50
reisiomanojkumar: hi06:50
kimdaHi. I am noticing a weird networking problem with a ubuntu guest (kvm). I can ping certain addresses but with another I will not get any reply back. On the host I see with tcpdump requests but no replies. Also when i do a apt-cache search it takes a couple of seconds to receive results. Any ideas what could be causing this?06:53
LinuxGoldkimda:  cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv606:55
LinuxGoldsee if it is 0 or 106:55
ShapeShifter499aeon-ltd, reisio thank you06:57
kimdaLinuxGold, 006:58
LinuxGoldkimda: check this site out http://askubuntu.com/questions/272796/connecting-to-archive-ubuntu-com-takes-too-long06:58
LinuxGoldfollow the solution for apt problem06:58
gaganhello there..?06:59
gagani have some proplem in ubuntu 13.0406:59
reisiogagan: hi07:00
kimdaLinuxGold, I have changed the settings with sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 but its the same as before07:01
LinuxGoldeven after rebooted?07:01
gaganreisio: i have some problem in   appearence07:01
gagantheme is not changing07:02
kimdano i haven't rebooted it. but i think if you change it like that its immediate07:02
gaganshowing only one option  high contrest07:02
LinuxGoldbecause the output is still 007:02
LinuxGoldreboot should change to 1 --07:02
kimdano its 1 now07:03
LinuxGoldcat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6 is now 1 right?07:03
kimdayes07:05
LinuxGoldok, is kvm network adapter set to bridged?07:05
kimdayes07:05
LinuxGoldaccepts all right?07:05
kimdayes i can ssh to it..ping it from the outside and from host07:05
kimdaonly certain addresses are not pingable07:06
ravenhi07:06
kimdafrom within the guest07:06
LinuxGoldok, is apt still having problem?07:06
kimdafrom the host i can ping these addresses07:06
kimdayes07:06
LinuxGoldinteresting...07:06
Andre_designerhow can i get volumecontrol in smaller steps by keyboard??07:06
LinuxGoldguest ip on the same subnet as outside?07:06
kimdayes07:07
LinuxGoldhmm.. last try -- restart the networking to force guest to get dynamic IP address from dhcp?07:07
ravenxubuntu 12.04.3 lts: build of http://sourceforge.net/projects/electricowl/files/latest/download results in that: http://pastebin.com/KFXiqpJn - all headers installed - whats the problem?07:08
kimdaunfortunately i cannot do this. the address is a public ip and needs to be accessible from outside.07:08
LinuxGoldah....07:08
Andre_designerhow can i get volumecontrol in smaller steps by keyboard??07:08
kimdawhat i was wondering about is that maybe the mac address could be the problem07:08
LinuxGoldmac address shouldn't be a problem, I think?07:09
LinuxGoldI'm suspecting DNS07:09
kimdawell...i've read somewhere that the mac address on a guest should be higher (or lower) than the host07:09
kimdathe host gets resolved07:10
LinuxGoldifconfig, on both host and guest -- make sure they do not match07:10
LinuxGoldon the mac address listed07:10
Benkinoobyhi, when i am in a console (non-X) $TERM is 'linux' - is ther a way to get that terminal for GUI too?07:10
kutzuwhere can i get a list of supported bluetooth dongles for ubuntu?07:10
cfhowlett!hardware|kutzu,07:11
ubottukutzu,: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection07:11
kimdathey are different07:11
LinuxGoldk, then mac address should not be a problem.07:11
kimdawhats weird is that if i do tcpdump -v icmp on the host07:11
kutzui dont see usb dongle on that page07:12
kimdastart a ping say to google.com from the guest that i see replies. When i  do belnet.be I see only requests and no replies07:13
kutzucan anyone recommend one that is supported by ubuntu?07:13
Acefacewhats up shitheads07:13
Andre_designerhow can i get volumecontrol in smaller steps by keyboard??07:13
cfhowlett!ops|Aceface,07:13
ubottuAceface,: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!07:13
Andre_designeranyone??07:14
LinuxGoldkimda: host can see belnet.be?07:14
LinuxGoldbut not guest?07:14
kimdayes it resolved07:14
kimdaresolves to ip07:14
LinuxGoldlooks like DNS problem for guest07:14
LinuxGoldDNS is something that I am not really good with.07:15
LinuxGoldcheck /etc/resolv.conf?07:15
LinuxGoldhold07:15
kimdabut it  resolves to ip so how can this be a dns problem07:15
LinuxGoldlike I said before, I'm not really good with DNS07:15
kimdaif i ping the same ipaddress i still am not getting any replies07:16
LinuxGoldanyone know kimda's problem?07:16
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DeonPhi07:23
convoi     hi DeonP07:23
DeonPneed some help on networking, got l2tp tunnel up but pppd keeps sending the following,(from tcpdump)07:24
DeonP{IP truncated-ip - 38 bytes missing! (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 56428, offset 0, flags [+], proto UDP (17), length 1404)07:24
DeonPhi convoi07:24
DeonPdata from my side to l2tp concentrator, wierd07:25
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mercury00hi all. anyone know the best way to archive a 100gb file.07:35
mercury00cpio has a limit, either 4 or 8 gb. tar as well, though I don't know the limit.07:35
err_when selecting a mirror in software sources, is it best to choose ftp or http for downloading? Why?07:35
icerooterr_: does not matter on your site07:36
mercury00err_: yeah, the data kind of comes to you the same, genearlly, on your side of things,07:36
ravenxubuntu 12.04.3 lts: build of http://sourceforge.net/projects/electricowl/files/latest/download results in that: http://pastebin.com/KFXiqpJn - all headers installed - whats the problem?07:37
err_why doesn't it matter, iceroot? I heard that http was better for reconnecting, if the connection keeps dropping out. That is a surprise to me, as ftp is specifically designed for file transfer...07:37
mercury00err_: if you have both options. If you happen to be using a browser that doesn't understand ftp, use http, if you happen to only have an ftp client available, well.07:37
icerooterr_: and you are only doing file-transfer in this case07:38
mercury00err_: yes, well they are different software on the servers end. however, for most uses today, and on modern systems... it's not usually a big thing...07:38
err_mercury00, iceroot, it is when setting up the ubuntu "software and updates" application, not when browsing a site with firefox...07:39
err_it is for when using apt-get update...07:39
icerooterr_: i know07:39
icerooterr_: and you are only doing file-transfer for that usecase07:39
mercury00err_: I've just always used http; though I run a few hunderd desktops so use my own local repo and only serve from apache, so no other choice07:40
err_thanks, mercury00, thanks iceroot!07:41
mercury00err_: I'm not sure what apt uses for connecting via ftp, that is, what system library it calls specifically, though I assume it connects with an anonymous user and no password, and PASV. without being able to dig into the library and see what the implementation difference is, I'd assume the only other difference is the port.07:43
mercury00err_: ftp ought to default to 21, while http is going to use 80. if either of those ports are blocked, spammed, or otherwise troublesome, if might make a difference07:43
err_why does ubuntu not ship with aptitude? the default is apt-get. aptitude has advantages...07:44
somsip!aptitude | err_07:44
ubottuerr_: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and 12.04) as aptitude cannot  handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.07:44
mercury00err_: that, I do not know. I always install it just so I can do 'aptitude search ....'07:45
err_thanks, somsip - i didn't know that...07:45
mercury00ah, thanks ubottu, that was useful07:45
somsiperr_: np07:45
sliddjurAnyone here having trouble using citrix reciever on ubuntu 13, 64bit?07:46
sliddjurMy PC hangs atleast once a day07:46
mercury00so I heard pax can handle very large files; is there any other tar-like utility that can do so?07:46
mercury00I frequently need to 'tar' several 100gb files into a single file for long term storage. and tar/cpio don't handle them,07:46
mercury00'field width not sufficient' and such; curious if anybody on the ubuntu channels might know a good alternative07:47
icerootif i want to share my internet connection (create my own AP when already connected with cable) the new wifi network i want to create is only offering WEP, is that a bug in network-manager? or does my wifi card has to support WPA for hosting own networks?07:49
Artem_KalinovskyHello guys!07:49
cfhowlettArtem_Kalinovsky, greetings07:50
Artem_KalinovskyI have an idea to start  OpenSource project.07:52
Artem_KalinovskyIt will be a card game BlackJack and I wanna to publish it in Ubuntu App Store. What is your opinion about it?07:52
cfhowlett!ot|Artem_Kalinovsky,07:52
ubottuArtem_Kalinovsky,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:52
clawsOfBananahas the git v1.8 been released into the ubuntu ppas?07:54
somsip!info git07:54
ubottugit (source: git): fast, scalable, distributed revision control system. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.8.1.2-1 (raring), package size 6581 kB, installed size 15588 kB07:54
somsipclawsOfBanana: we dont do PPA here07:55
clawsOfBananaoh... okay... sorry... didn't know07:55
auronandaceArtem_Kalinovsky: perhaps try #ubuntu-app-devel07:55
clawsOfBananathanks somsip07:55
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mercury00night all08:06
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Bagheeramorning all08:14
ObrienDaveBagheera::: evening :)08:15
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Bagheeraevening on the west coast?08:17
SwashBucklahmm, my iPod shuffle (latest generation) has been wiped by Rhythmbox when I tried to sync with the library. Now I get the voice "Please use iTunes to restore this iPod" when I listen to my iPod shuffle. How do I fix this?08:18
BagheeraSwashBuckla, there's a program to sync itunes correctly08:18
SwashBucklaBagheera: OK, what is that program?08:19
BagheeraGTKPod08:19
SwashBucklaBagheera: and if I use that, will that be able to restore my iPod so that I can listen to music again?08:19
Bagheerayou should be able to08:19
SwashBuckla(cool IRC name by the way)08:19
Bagheeraitunes uses a table to refer to the tracks on it, and gtkpod can update the table08:20
SwashBucklaok08:20
BagheeraSwashBuckla: the name is cause my son looked like Mowgli when he was born08:20
SwashBuckla:308:21
SwashBucklaawesome08:21
SwashBucklaBagheera: do you look like a panther?08:22
SwashBuckla:D08:22
BagheeraSwashBuckla: well i'm dark and like climbing things08:23
Bagheerathough only when drunk08:23
nugrohoWHA420355 WHA80047708:28
nugroholinuz torvald and richard stallman08:29
nugrohoirc stand for internet relay chat08:29
nugroholinuz torvald and developer build linux software08:30
somsipnugroho: and that's enough now08:30
nugrohothanks you somsip08:30
somsipnugroho: do you have a support question?08:30
edward_hi08:36
Hanumaanhow to scroll through desktops on both monitors as of now only one monitor is getting scorolled I am using gnome dekstop ?08:36
rhumbothi all, i have 2 versions of ubuntu on my laptop. version 12.10 and 13.04. 12.10 has texlive-full package installed08:38
rhumbotcan i copy this package to 13.04 without reinstalling?08:39
cfhowlettrhumbot, not advisable to mix distros in that manner ...08:39
rhumbotactually, all i need to get is a couple of files from the package, not the installation itself08:40
rhumbothow can i locate the package ? :/08:40
draskoscreen08:40
gRAVIty2how do I share screen shots?08:41
DJones!imagebin | gRAVIty208:41
ubottugRAVIty2: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.08:41
somsip!paste | gRAVIty208:41
ubottugRAVIty2: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.08:41
somsipah - wrong one. sorry08:41
gRAVIty2bot is cool :)08:42
gRAVIty2thanks DJones and somsip08:42
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DJonessomsip: They both give the same info08:43
somsipDJones: ah yes. cheers08:45
pseudonymousSo I just came back into my room today to find both my machines having gone through a powercycle for some reason (could be thermal, could be someone tripping a wire, I don't know) -- one machine booted up nicely (this one) - the other will not boot anymore. All normal kernels hang with a black screen, the recovery kernel entry hangs after "loading initial ramdisk"08:46
ObrienDavepseudonymous... any external USB drives connected?08:47
gRAVIty2Here is the problem: The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly08:47
gRAVIty2I have taken screen shots of the error details and you can them here. They are in continuation 1) http://imagebin.org/270644 2)http://imagebin.org/270645 3)http://imagebin.org/27064408:48
gRAVIty2I have taken screen shots of the error details and you can them here. They are in continuation 1) http://imagebin.org/270644 2) http://imagebin.org/270645 3) http://imagebin.org/270644 - Error: The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly08:49
pseudonymousObrienDave: nope. I've got an onboard nic, an extra 10GB nic w. 2 slots, 1 mouse, 1 keyboard and a monitor via DVI, that's it08:49
ObrienDaveumm, that happens to me if I forget to unplug my USB to SATA adapter08:50
pseudonymousObrienDava: Yes, I'm sort of thinking it's got to do with it being unable to find the device to boot off of, but it's a regular ubuntu install on a new haswell rig so it's all Grub2 and UEFI mess :( I haven't a clue where to begin debugging08:51
ObrienDavepseudonymous... any live ISO you can try booting and repairing with?08:51
ObrienDaveoh lordy, UFEI, not my cup of tea08:52
teddy___Hello!08:53
ObrienDave*** UEFI *** oops08:54
gRAVIty2teddy: can you help me with this? Error: The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly. Error details - hey are in continuation 1) http://imagebin.org/270644 2) http://imagebin.org/270645 3) http://imagebin.org/27064408:54
ObrienDavegRAVIty2... i notice that link 1 and 3 are the same08:55
gRAVIty2ObrienDave: sorry. link 3 is http://imagebin.org/27064608:56
teddy___I have a problem with installing wxpython on ubuntu: i want to use wxpython with python2.7 (installed with altinstall to leave the default python installation untouched). How can i let python2.7 recognize the wxpython install from synaptic?08:56
ObrienDavegRAVIty2... no biggie, thanks08:56
gRAVIty2Let me restate the whole problem again just for the sake of correctness. Error: The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly. Error details - hey are in continuation 1) http://imagebin.org/270644 2) http://imagebin.org/270645 3) http://imagebin.org/27064608:56
gRAVIty2ObrienDave: any thoughts on the problem?09:01
pseudonymousObrienDave: Just finished bothering someone for a USB pen :) I'll have to install ubuntu onto it somehow, but I imagine there's a guide for that, I'll see how that goes09:01
ObrienDavepseudonymous... use good comp to DL ISO and UNetBootin to install on USB stick09:02
Kurzahello, I run ubuntu 10.04 server and I have libssl0.9.8(k) installed as a package that a few other packages depends on. However, to install another package that I want installed I need libssl0.9.8(m) or above. Does anyone know how can I do that small upgrade (all the other packages that depends on libssl0.9.8 can use higher version of it)09:02
ObrienDavegRAVIty2... sorry no, don't know enough about compiz09:03
nugrohoSOC155694 YMH29743309:03
gRAVIty2Sure. thanks for your time09:03
lesslesshi  folks! After ati'09:04
ObrienDave*** no feeding the troll *** maybe he'll go away09:04
lesslessati's proprietary driver installation gtk-window-decorator  won't load anymore09:04
lesslessthe erro is (gtk-window-decorator:4105): Gdk-CRITICAL **: IA__gdk_drawable_get_depth: assertion `GDK_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable)' failed09:05
lesslessand the only solution which I found (export GTK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1) is not helping09:06
lesslesscan someone assist me please?09:06
cfhowlett!patience|lessless,09:07
ubottulessless,: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/09:07
nightwalkerkgHi,i have some problems with Ubuntu 12.04. After the boot logo (Ubuntu with those 5 red donts) finish loading my monitor just turns off.09:07
ObrienDavenightwalkerkg... how soon after? screensaver maybe?09:07
[Gentoo]nightwalkerkg: can you reach a console by ctrl alt and f309:08
nightwalkerkgObrienDave: It's on boot,just after it the Ubuntu logo shows.09:08
nightwalkerkg[Gentoo]: Yes i can.09:08
ObrienDaveaway09:09
foo357Hello, I'm having a problem with a full boot sector. apt-get can't do anything about it, if I try to remove old 'linux images' it fails (due to lack of space in /boot)09:09
nightwalkerkg[Gentoo]: Any ideas ?09:11
UserErroris add-apt-repository main a valid arg, and can there be more than one, ie add-apt-repository main universe restricted multiverse09:12
[Gentoo]nightwalkerkg: sorry bit busy, was this after a driver update or something09:13
nightwalkerkgNope,i turned my pc off yesterday and when i tried it now it won't boot.09:13
nightwalkerkgI have a dual boot with windows 7.09:13
[Gentoo]nightwalkerkg: not sure tbh. how long have you left it on the blank screen for?09:14
nightwalkerkgAbout 5 minutes.09:14
ObrienDavenightwalkerkg... will windows boot?09:14
nightwalkerkgYes it will.09:14
nightwalkerkgI am on windows now.09:14
nightwalkerkg[Gentoo]: It's not really a blank screen,the monitor turns off.09:15
[Gentoo]nightwalkerkg: this might sound stupid, but try draining the power completely, turn off the pc and unplug it, press the power button few times then turn it back on09:15
nightwalkerkgActualy it's not stupid. xD09:15
nightwalkerkgLet me try.09:15
[Gentoo]well its helped me out with some problems before09:15
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ObrienDavedang Xchat tab complete isn't working. grrrrrrrr09:16
[Gentoo]use a proper client :)09:17
dheerajHii alll..09:17
[Gentoo]xchat isnt even maintained any more09:17
bazhangObrienDave, make sure its set to last spoken, and not a-z09:17
ObrienDavePFFFFFFT! ;)09:17
dheerajI want to format my external hardisk09:17
[Gentoo]dheeraj: ok09:18
bazhang!gparted | dheeraj09:18
ubottudheeraj: gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php09:18
UserError"add-apt-repository main universe restricted multiverse" is this valid from a minimal install?09:18
UserErrorafter the common deb is apt'd09:19
bazhangUserError, thats for adding ppa, so doubtful in the extreme09:19
BrixSatHello my gdm in log says "no screens found" http://paste.ubuntu.com/6096252/  i have no image on screen besided a blank line09:19
ObrienDave[Gentoo]... working again09:19
bazhangUserError, ppa dont have that format09:19
[Gentoo]ObrienDave: good09:20
cfhowlettxchat last compiled in February 2013  ...09:21
ObrienDaveLOL nightwalker quit. no wonder it don't work LMAO09:21
[Gentoo]i werent saying use another client because of that problem09:21
[Gentoo]ObrienDave: no he rebooted09:21
ObrienDave[Gentoo]... so i c09:22
nightwalkerkg[Gentoo]: Lol,i pressed the power button on the monitor and i got a message that there is no input source coming from my pc (something like that) and it asked me to select the right source.09:22
[Gentoo]nightwalkerkg: and it worked?09:22
nightwalkerkgNope. :D09:22
[Gentoo]did you drain the power on the pc?09:22
nightwalkerkgMy monitor is connected to my pc via HDMI cable,so ubuntu doesn't recognize the cable or there is something really wrong with the drivers.09:23
nightwalkerkg[Gentoo]: Yes i did.09:23
[Gentoo]its not the cable if windows works09:23
[Gentoo]no idea, you could reinstall the drivers / check for logs from the console09:23
[Gentoo]do you get any login sound or anything when the monitors off?09:23
nightwalkerkgLet me try to connect it via vga.09:24
[Gentoo]good idea09:24
nightwalkerkgNot sure,my speakers are off. xD09:24
ObrienDavenightwalkerkg... sounds like a grub problem, maybe09:24
[Gentoo]ObrienDave: no he can get to a console09:24
ObrienDaveok, *lurking*09:24
ihreIm trying to install vmware-workstation, but the installer segfaults. How can I identify the cause? I tried gdb, but the file format isnt recognized (vmware-workstation-full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle": not in executable format: File format not recognized).09:25
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BrixSatHello my gdm in log says "no screens found" http://paste.ubuntu.com/6096252/ i have a login shell only09:27
sashoHello guys & gals.. I installed drupal using apt-get (for the first time in my life, till now I was doing that manually). How do I open the web interface now? localhost/drupal or drupal6 isn't working.09:27
BrixSatsasho: how did you install drupal? via apt-get?09:28
sashoBrixSat, yes, as I already said :)09:28
BrixSatyou can open the apache config and see where it heads to09:28
dheeraj_any suggestions..?? what to do.09:28
[Gentoo]dheeraj_: what are you trying to do, format your external drive?09:29
BrixSatsasho:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal09:29
sashoah, damn, I figured out. Thanks09:29
dheeraj_[Gentoo]: yes..09:29
[Gentoo]dheeraj_: do you want to use it only on linux or windows as well?09:29
dheeraj_I need to format ir09:29
sashoSomehow I got lighttp and not apache..09:29
BrixSatdheeraj_:  whats the prob=09:29
raywanhow can I list installed packages that have missing files (broken)09:29
[Gentoo]dheeraj_: run sudo fdisk -l, fond the drive name09:29
dheeraj_i need to use it only on linux09:29
[Gentoo]find*09:29
elfrannehow can I list files (and size) on / but only on the / partition ?09:30
[Gentoo]du -h /09:30
[Gentoo]dheeraj_: did you find the drive letter09:31
[Gentoo]/dev/sdb or whatever it might be09:31
dheeraj_wait09:31
dheeraj_I got that09:31
dheeraj_yes09:31
UserErrorcan you chain the default ppas in ubuntu?09:31
UserErrorlike, adding them all in one command09:31
[Gentoo]dheeraj_: ok, what is it09:31
dheeraj_also an error09:32
[Gentoo]dheeraj_: error on what09:32
dheeraj_Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table09:33
dheeraj_[Gentoo]: /dev/sdc09:33
[Gentoo]dheeraj_: thats ok09:33
dheeraj_On fdisk -l09:33
dheeraj_i got this error09:33
dheeraj_http://paste.ubuntu.com/09:33
dheeraj_sorry not that09:33
[Gentoo]it needs creating thats all09:33
[Gentoo]you can create a mbr partition table with fdisk or gpt with gdisk09:33
[Gentoo]just run sudo fdisk /dev/sdc   press n then press enter all the way to the end09:34
[Gentoo]then w09:34
dheeraj_Ohkk let me try09:34
nightwalkerkg[Gentoo]: Nope,it's the same with VGA. No signal comming from the pc. Like the GPU decides to turn off.09:35
[Gentoo]that will create 1 partition with a mbr partition table, then you can run mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdc109:35
[Gentoo]and its all done09:35
Wiz_KeeDHey guys09:37
Wiz_KeeDCatKiller: are you around?09:37
[Gentoo]nightwalkerkg: go into the console and check the logs for anything09:37
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sliddjurHello, I have a VPN Server at home. It generated a zip file for me. How do I use it to connect from ubuntu? I am at the create new connection window, but I cant see where to put my config file?09:38
[Gentoo]/var/log/Xorg.0.log  dmesg etc09:38
pseudonymousOk, does anyone know if there's a quick way to ascertain what sort of boot mode grub2 uses ? (bios/uefi) ? I'm running off of a USB pen and I'll need to get this system bootable again09:38
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Wiz_KeeDI want to install Xchat and that usually works with just sudo apt-get install xchat but now that i do a search i see a few other versions even one for gnome: http://pastie.org/831935509:39
Wiz_KeeDwhat is the best solution?09:39
[Gentoo]Wiz_KeeD: plain xchat if you had to choose09:39
Wiz_KeeDWhat would be the difference [Gentoo] ?09:39
DJonesWiz_KeeD: From memory, xchat-gnome is a simplified version of xchat09:40
[Gentoo]its the normal version, but if hexchat is in the repos use that09:40
[Gentoo]as its updated and maintained09:40
blahblah123DAE have issues linking laptop via hdmi cable not outputting sound??09:40
lesslesshi folks! how to hide panel on the second monitor? :D09:40
ObrienDavepseudonymous... there are special settings for UEFI. let me see if i can find the link09:40
Wiz_KeeDSimplified in what way?09:41
Wiz_KeeDI'm not installing one package without asking you guys beforehand09:41
Wiz_KeeDnot after what happened last time09:41
[Gentoo]Wiz_KeeD: the gnome one prob has some desktop integration stuff09:42
[Gentoo]you're not gona break anything installing either of them09:42
Wiz_KeeDhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChat-GNOME - looks ugly too09:42
DJonesWiz_KeeD: Simplified as in it doesn't do everything that xchat does, I don't think it has a user list, things like that09:42
Wiz_KeeDAnd I always do a sudo apt-get update before, right?09:42
ObrienDavepseudonymous... you running Win8?09:42
[Gentoo]Wiz_KeeD: use "xchat" if you really want that client09:42
[Gentoo]Wiz_KeeD: yes09:42
Wiz_KeeDThank you [Gentoo] and DJones will install that now that i'm sure09:42
Wiz_KeeDok ran sudo apt-get update, now just sudo apt-get install xchat?09:43
[Gentoo]yes09:43
Wiz_KeeDnothing else? (It's a fresh fresh install, 2 minutes ago)09:43
lesslessor is it possible to move launch panel to the right?09:43
[Gentoo]nope09:43
ObrienDave[Gentoo]... which client you using?09:43
Wiz_KeeDokay sir09:43
[Gentoo]ObrienDave: weechat09:43
blahblah123Hey team, is it possible to remove the words "Unbuntu Desktop" from the top menu bar?09:43
blahblah123Its only generally viewable when on the desktop09:43
pseudonymousObrienDave: nope, both machines run Linux :) The one that rebooted fine is Arch Linux, the one that I'm trying to save right now is the Ubuntu box.09:44
ObrienDaveyes, but it's a dual boot, yes? Win8?09:45
Wiz-KeeDOkay!09:45
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Wiz_KeeDWe got xchat up and running09:46
ObrienDavehave you checked BIOS (UEFI) settings lately?09:46
Wiz_KeeDNow who can help me with one of the most difficult task ahead? Installing the proper drivers :-s09:46
[Gentoo]Wiz_KeeD: now you can mess around with all the settings :)09:46
[Gentoo]Wiz_KeeD: for what09:46
[Gentoo]graphics? most drivers are in the kernel09:46
Wiz_KeeDDell Inspiron...some version idk which09:46
[Gentoo]for things like sound etc09:46
pseudonymousObrienDave: nope, the downed PC is Linux-only, both of them are :)09:47
ObrienDavepseudonymous... have you checked BIOS (UEFI) settings lately?09:47
[Gentoo]Wiz_KeeD: well what doesnt work?09:47
Wiz_KeeDgraphics mostly, last time I had ubuntu 12.04 if i upped/downed the brightness fast the monitor would just color up ugly and freeze09:47
Wiz_KeeDI'm afraid to do that now...09:47
[Gentoo]Wiz_KeeD: if its integrated graphics then you're likely using them now09:47
ObrienDavepseudonymous... but it still has bios settings09:47
Wiz_KeeDI don't think so [Gentoo] some ATI which is not integrated09:47
Wiz_KeeDI can try09:47
[Gentoo]Wiz_KeeD: atis default kernel driver is the most stable09:48
Wiz_KeeDHMM...now it works [Gentoo] !09:48
ObrienDavepseudonymous... how old is it? more than 5 years?09:48
pseudonymousObrienDave: it does indeed, or rather some graphical UEFI boot manager thing. It still registers the boot partition as my samsung ssd and grub does indeed load all the time, it's only at the handoff point (loading initial ramdisk) that things freeze up09:48
Wiz_KeeDreally? ok then I won't touch them09:48
[Gentoo]Wiz_KeeD: nah i wouldnt09:48
Wiz_KeeDI do get an error about wireless card when the system is booting up09:48
Wiz_KeeDCould not locate firmware or something like that09:48
[Gentoo]are you using the wireless now?09:49
pseudonymousWiz_KeeD: doesn't Ubuntu give you a popup ? THere's usually a notice in the top right through which you can elect to install proprietary drivers, ubuntu would handle the rest for you09:49
[Gentoo]pseudonymous: with ATI cards unless you have a need for more 3d accel, the default drivers are quicker and more stable09:50
Hanumaanhow to move scroll through desktops in both the monitors ?09:51
Wiz_KeeDGuess what [Gentoo], it crashed09:51
[Gentoo]what did09:51
Wiz_KeeDI would make MILIONS for the ubuntu as a bug tester I swear to God09:51
[Gentoo]lol09:52
Wiz_KeeDI upped and downed the brightness and volume from the keyboard09:52
Wiz_KeeDand It blacked out while repeating a sound09:52
[Gentoo]no idea about that issue09:52
Wiz_KeeDAnd I still get the wireless card error on bood09:52
Wiz_KeeDboot09:52
Wiz_KeeDyeah...no one does and ever will, that's just my luck09:52
[Gentoo]you might need some prop driver for it09:52
[Gentoo]i dont know09:52
[Gentoo]but i got to go out do school runs good luck09:53
ObrienDavepseudonymous... here's the UEFI settings link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI09:53
pseudonymousGentoo: oh I'm not surprised :) But I never use ATI. I have nvidia and as of late I'm moving to intel seeing as they're picking up speed and the drivers are great (stability-wise)09:53
pseudonymousObrienDave: thanks :) I'm still trying to reinstall the bootloader, of course it's all on an LVM2 partition to boot.. :/09:54
ObrienDaveoh geez. glwt09:54
ObrienDavebrb09:56
pseudonymousObrienDave: yea :/ I know this is the wrong forum to say this, but there's a reason I run Arch Linux otherwise, I know it's never more complex than what I set up to begin with. Straight partitions, MBR and Syslinux is wee bit easier than GPT,GRUB2,LVM2 :/09:56
hillwellwangwhat  is it?09:57
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pseudonymousWiz_KeeD: about the brightness adjustment, it will, on a LOT of PC's just allow you to adjust all the way to 0% brightness (=> black screen), just try bumping it back up. At least this has happened on a number of my laptops09:58
ObrienDaveb09:59
nightwalkerkgObrienDave: The damn drivers caused the problem,just had to reinstall them.09:59
ObrienDavenightwalkerkg... oh cool! glad you worked it out09:59
nightwalkerkgThanks guys.09:59
ObrienDavewelcome :))10:00
ObrienDaveneed coffee, brb10:02
Wiz_KeeDpseudonymous, this is not the case, it freezez and nothing responds10:04
Wiz_KeeDAnd past case was it turned the screen into a huge number of horrid colors10:04
Wiz_KeeDInstalling skype for ubuntu is best of from repository or from skype main site?10:05
cfhowlettWiz_KeeD, from repos is best ...10:06
Wiz_KeeDThere is no skype in repos according to apt-cache search10:06
Wiz_KeeDpidgin-skype10:06
DJones!skype | Wiz_KeeD10:06
ubottuWiz_KeeD: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga10:06
YaannHi10:07
Wiz_KeeDRecord on skype? ah10:07
Wiz_KeeDI'll read that DJones, thank you!!10:07
cfhowlettDJones, apt-cache policy skype shows it's in the partner packages on 12.0410:08
Wiz_KeeDIs this really ok guys? sudo dpkg --add-architecture i38610:08
Wiz_KeeDSome people say: "you don't want to install a packages that was not compiled for your platform. Either get a 64bit version or compile it yourself. "10:08
Wiz_KeeDWhat do you think DJones ?10:08
Wiz_KeeDThere's a part of my answer "It is highly recommended to use the package provided in the Canonical partner repository, not the one distributed from the skype website, as the skype website currently points users to the wrong package for 64-bit systems of Ubuntu 11.10 and above.10:10
zhangxunhello !everybody10:10
zhangxunis anyone there?10:10
ObrienDaveback10:10
DJonesWiz_KeeD: If you're on a 64 bit machine, I think the installer for Skype is aimed at 32 bit machines, so I think you;'d have to do that, I don't use skype so I can't say how well it works, hopefully somebody else here can help though10:10
Wiz_KeeDI do use 6410:11
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... Skype works fine10:11
DJones!pm > zhangxun10:11
ubottuzhangxun, please see my private message10:11
Wiz_KeeDit's not in the package manager10:11
zhangxunok10:12
zhangxunI have saw that10:12
nerdtron!pm | nerdtron10:12
ubottunerdtron, please see my private message10:12
zhangxunthanks10:12
IamTryinghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6096399/ - Again SSH crashed10:12
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IamTryingHow do i login to SSH SErver?10:13
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... Skype website only gives you a 32bit version10:16
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... D/L the 32 bit file from Skype. Install the .deb file. it will work10:17
nerdtronIamTrying, ssh-keygen on your local machine, then try to connect again10:18
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... what version of Ubuntu you running?10:19
nerdtronIamTrying, line 145-146 are Input/Output error... are you sure the files/hard drive on the remote machine are in good health?10:19
jcgsIamTrying, I agree with nerdtron, it looks like a problem at the other end, can you log in to another server, or log in to that machine locally?10:21
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... this will get you the latest 32bit file. http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-6410:23
bmxscott1993need help i getting tird of install all the programs i us on ubuntu and want them pre installed on a iso ubuntu dvd what do i use for it to make a like live cd that boot up like the normal iso dvd what it all normal just with a couple more preinstall program on it so i do not have to find them all the time with the lay out i got now just on a dvd10:25
[Gentoo]bmxscott1993: you could do it that way, or write a script that installs all of them10:26
bmxscott1993not good with script but tell me more on how10:27
Pymous_Hello !10:27
Pymous_It's probably a dump question, but I've recently installed Ubuntu 13, and I have a small brain issue10:28
[Gentoo]bmxscott1993: just a 1 line script that would apt-get install package 1 2 3 4 etc10:28
[Gentoo]would do10:28
ObrienDavebmxscott1993... I think Ubuntu Customization Kit will work for you10:28
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geirhaPymous_: There's no Ubuntu 13. Do you mean 13.04? or the upcoming 13.10?10:28
Pymous_In the explorator (files, directory, ...) how do I enter my own path ? In the older version, I had to double click on the button on top10:28
Pymous_13.04 geirha10:28
[Gentoo]Pymous_: does pressing escape work?10:28
geirhaPymous_: Ctrl+L iirc10:28
Pymous_geirha > Not working :(10:29
Pymous_[Gentoo] > Nop, sorry10:29
bmxscott1993im just got that but there a nother one called ubuntu builder but can not find it in marked10:29
geirhaPymous_: Hm. They might have disabled that feature then.10:29
ObrienDavebmxscott1993... let me look again10:30
ObrienDavebrb10:30
bmxscott1993ok10:31
cfhowlettbmxscott1993, see this:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/best-way-to-backup-all-settings-list-of-installed-packages-tweaks-etc10:31
ObrienDaveback10:33
LrdArchow can I connect to authenticated proxy that contains "@" on username??10:34
[Gentoo]LrdArc: have you tried it in quotes?10:35
LrdArcnot yet10:36
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ObrienDavebmxscott1993... try ubuntu-defaults-builder10:38
lesshasteI got this message " Because of incompatible library changes, the upgrade of the GNU libc library will leave you unable to authenticate to these programs. You should arrange for these programs to be restarted or stopped before continuing this upgrade"10:39
lesshastehow do I do that?10:39
bmxscott1993ok10:39
lesshaste"One or more running instances of xscreensaver or xlockmore have been detected on this system."10:39
lesshastethat was a crucial missing part :)10:39
siberiannerdshould i write a bug report if expert install from 12.04.3 cd1 was finished without warnings and after reboot i end up with grub's "error: file not found." ?10:43
ikoniasiberiannerd: no10:48
siberiannerdikonia, what should i do?10:48
ikoniafix the problem10:48
ikoniaand not cross-post the same question in mulitple ubuntu channels10:48
siberiannerdikonia, i tried twice with alternate and server, just asked for server10:48
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ikoniasiberiannerd: trying twice is not fixing the problem10:49
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, did you actually install grub?  where?  how do we reproduce the problem?  especially since most people haven't had your experience;10:49
ikoniait's not even understanding the problem10:49
ikoniasiberiannerd: the first qestion I'd ask, is did you use a DVD, or a USB,10:49
siberiannerdikonia, hdd10:51
siberiannerdcfhowlett, i can describe the steps to reproduce if you want me to10:51
siberiannerdif i should to deal with it properly10:51
ikoniasiberiannerd: hdd ?10:52
ikoniayou used a hard disk to install from ?10:52
siberiannerdikonia, hard disk drive10:52
siberiannerdyeah, why not?10:52
ikoniasiberiannerd: how did you install from hard disk ?10:52
siberiannerdas it described by official manpages for debian installer and anywhere10:53
siberiannerdwithout 3rd party tools to put an image to drive10:53
ikoniaif you can't be bothered answering questions - we can't help10:53
siberiannerdok, ikonia, dd if=iso of=hdd10:53
siberiannerdand here we go10:53
ikoniasiberiannerd: that don't install it10:53
ikoniasiberiannerd: so please don't try to be clever when YOU are the one asking for help10:53
siberiannerdikonia, well you're terribly wrong10:54
ikoniaoh, really, dd'ing an install image to a harddisk = an install ?10:54
siberiannerdyou never read about debian installation procedure from hdd?10:54
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, umm, no that is NOT an installation procedure for ubuntu.10:54
siberiannerdsorry to hear that10:54
ikoniasiberiannerd: I'm asking what YOU did10:54
siberiannerdi jsut said what i did10:54
siberiannerdi'm not lying10:54
ikoniasiberiannerd: that is not an install10:54
ikoniasiberiannerd: that is just putting an install iso onto a hard disk10:54
siberiannerdi've put the installation media iso like that10:55
siberiannerdafter what i specified nodmraid nomodset expertinstall10:55
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, suggest you try this: make a boot ISO on usb.  Boot from that ISO and choose install.10:55
siberiannerdikonia, should i continue describing the steps over stages?10:56
ObrienDavesiberiannerd... an ISO has to be burned to a DVD or CD or installed onto a USB stick10:56
siberiannerdno it shouldn't10:56
ikoniasiberiannerd: just lost total interest thanks to you trying to be smart with your answers, see if someone else wants to help you10:56
siberiannerdworks flawless10:56
ObrienDaveok, if you say so10:56
siberiannerdikonia, i didn't try to you was just pointing that i was doing something wrong10:56
siberiannerdcome on guys i'm not trying to act clever or anything like that10:57
siberiannerdi came with a problem i can't troubleshoot properly10:57
ikoniait doesn't come across like that10:57
ikoniaas dd'ing the install image to the hard disk is NOT an install10:57
ikoniait's dd'ing the install image to a hard disk - nothing more10:57
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, listen up.  copying to the HDD is NOT installing.  what you did is NOT an installation.10:57
siberiannerdwell let me read some manpages or howtos so i could behave more polite or being more informative10:57
siberiannerdoh ok10:58
bazhang!attitude | siberiannerd10:58
ubottusiberiannerd: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines10:58
siberiannerduhm i know that10:58
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, try this:    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation10:58
siberiannerdso i launched the setup from alternate image that was written to hdd via dd, completed the procedure of installation on the second hdd having /boot and mbr on the 3rd one10:59
siberiannerdwhich resulted the above10:59
kuribasHow do I set environment variable for X apps?10:59
siberiannerdd-i never prompted warnings or anything else11:00
kuribasMy variables in .bashrc aren't read.11:00
siberiannerdcfhowlett, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies11:01
siberiannerdbut without any floppies11:01
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, you did note that this method is for UNSUPPORTED version of ubuntu?  That means ... unsupported here as well.11:01
siberiannerdsomewhat no11:02
ObrienDavesiberiannerd... and it is also written for an 8 year old system?11:03
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, yeah that big pink banner across the top of the page.11:03
siberiannerdObrienDave, it has even 8 years old bugs in it so i thought it would be fine11:03
geirhakuribas: Set environment variables in .profile. They do not belong in .bashrc11:03
ObrienDaveomg *face palm*11:04
kuribasgeirha: Ok, I'll try that.11:04
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, you're installing 12.04 using an outdated, end of life methodology?  OOOOOOkay then.11:04
geirhakuribas: You may also set them in .pam_environment, which is read by the pam_env module when you log in, though note that .pam_environment is not a shell script, so shell syntax won't work in there.11:04
siberiannerdObrienDave, so there is not proper way to use hdd as installation media for ubuntu, is that correct?11:04
ObrienDavesiberiannerd... have fun with that. *lurking*11:04
siberiannerdno, seriously11:04
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, back up.  Can your box boot from USB?11:05
siberiannerdnope11:05
pseudonymousErr yes it can11:05
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, ok.  what are the machine specs. it matters.11:05
siberiannerdno11:05
siberiannerdok, it's mini-itx zotac mb without usb controlled on it11:06
siberiannerdshould i get deeper into details?11:06
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, nope.11:06
siberiannerdr*11:06
ObrienDavesiberiannerd... is there a DVD burner?11:06
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, I would suggest you consider using lubuntu or xubuntu though.  Both are optimized for older and lower spec machines.11:06
siberiannerdno, cd-rom is not integrated in motherboard unfortunately11:07
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, from that page I sent you:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManager11:07
siberiannerdcfhowlett, can i read about supported method of installing xubuntu from hdd media?11:07
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, same method as in the tutorial, just different OS.11:07
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, actually see the section: Installation without a CD"11:08
siberiannerdcfhowlett, yeah but the only option in there is unsupported11:09
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, it's also possible you could do a network installation.  See server and network installations in that tutorial11:09
siberiannerdas you pointed me to that pink banner11:09
siberiannerdpxe is buggy in there11:10
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, dern.  I was literally tying PXE for your next optoin.11:10
cfhowlett*option*11:10
siberiannerdi wouldn't come if it was an option11:10
siberiannerdand if i had sata dvd-rom11:11
cfhowlettsiberiannerd, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot11:11
Wiz_KeeDObrienDave, I have the 64 bit version11:11
Wiz_KeeDWhat do you recommend in order to install the proper skype?11:12
LeminoHi all! Anyone who can help me get my trackpad working correctly? I'm on a Vostro 3360.11:12
kizzx2hey guys11:13
kizzx2i'm trying to install Datastax Cassandra on LTS 120411:13
Wiz_KeeDAnyone know how to install skype for ubuntu 64 bit?11:13
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... where did you get a 64bit version???11:13
kizzx2apt-get install dsc1211:13
Wiz_KeeDof ubuntu ObrienDave ?11:13
kizzx2but it says The following packages have unmet dependencies:11:13
kizzx2 dsc12 : Depends: cassandra (= 1.2.9) but 2.0.0 is to be installed11:13
Wiz_KeeDI didn't get a skype version for 6411:13
ikonia!skype | Wiz_KeeD11:13
ubottuWiz_KeeD: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga11:14
ObrienDaveno, Skype11:14
Wiz_KeeDikonia, that link suggest you should include 32 bit applications in your repository, something that a lot of people do not recommend11:14
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... I meant 13.04 64bit?11:14
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: so what's the problem then ?11:14
Wiz_KeeD12.04 ObrienDave11:14
ObrienDaveok use the link11:15
Wiz_KeeDikonia, because from what I know installing 32-bit applications on 64 is not that good...also if i'm going to install the 32 bit one, why not use the one from skype.com?11:15
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... this will get you the latest 32bit file. http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-6411:15
siberiannerdbut uhm i don't have any bootable options but hdd unfortunately11:15
Wiz_KeeDObrienDave, that's what the link suggests11:15
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: it is the one from skype.com11:15
Wiz_KeeDsudo dpkg --add-architecture i38611:15
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: where is the native 64bit skype client ?11:15
LeminoI'll come back at another time!11:15
Wiz_KeeDI have no idea ikonia11:15
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: right, it doesn't exist11:15
ObrienDaveikonia... miscommunication on the 64bit Skype11:16
ikoniaObrienDave: do share11:16
ObrienDavethere isn't one, like you said ;))11:16
Wiz_KeeDSo it would be safe to add the 32 bit architecture then?11:17
ikoniaObrienDave: so how is that  miscommunication ?11:17
Wiz_KeeDYou guys did that?11:17
siberiannerdok, ubuntu can't be installed from hdd i got it11:17
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: I don't like adding the 32bit arch to the repos, no11:17
ObrienDaveoh lordy, nevermind11:17
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: however, that is the current documented process11:17
Wiz_KeeDhmmm11:18
Wiz_KeeDhow the hell can I get skype on my computer without adding the 32bit arch to the repos and still be able to upgrade it and all that...11:19
siberiannerdshould i write a feature request so the installation from hdd media could get some attention and support?11:19
ikoniasiberiannerd: nah11:19
siberiannerdikonia, why not?11:19
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... install ia32libs then Skype11:19
jribWiz_KeeD: why don't you want to add 32bit multiarch capability?11:19
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: i shouldn't stop you upgrading11:19
Wiz_KeeDjrib, because when searching for other software I wouldn't want to install 32bit designed packages that might not be optimized for 6411:20
jribWiz_KeeD: that wouldn't happen unless you ask for it explicitly11:20
Wiz_KeeDObrienDave, then all 32bit applications will be available for download, something I wouldn't neccesairly want11:20
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: it doesn't work like that11:20
Wiz_KeeDI'm sorry, I'm new to this, it may very well be possible, I just read about it11:21
Wiz_KeeDReady to be educated though :D11:21
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... no, that just adds 32bit support to 12.0411:21
Wiz_KeeDikonia still doesn't do it for a reason :)11:22
BluesKaj'Morning all11:23
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... ia32libs just adds 32bit support to 12.04. necessary for some programs like most 3rd party SecondLife clients11:24
Wiz_KeeDObrienDave, someone on the ubuntu forum says for example "you don't want to install a packages that was not compiled for your platform. Either get a 64bit version or compile it yourself. "11:27
jribWiz_KeeD: i've only seen skype provide 32bit packages.  Their 64bit package just depends on the 32bit real version.  Though I haven't check in the last few months11:27
icerootWiz_KeeD: use the 32bit version, there is no single need for skype in 64bit11:28
icerootWiz_KeeD: skype just needs to install some multiarch libs11:28
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... thats a PITA, just add ia32libs then install Skype. no biggie. it works11:28
jribthat shouldn't even be needed, just install skype after enabling multiarch11:29
Wiz_KeeDIf more people with professional opinions suggest the same thing I think it's time to do it11:29
Wiz_KeeDok sir!11:30
icerootWiz_KeeD: and to correct the part with "you dont want to install.." the real thing is "you dont want to install NSA/MS stuff on your free software product and you dont want to use such evil stuff anymore" that would be the correct part and not the architecutre thing :)11:30
Wiz_KeeDdidn't get that fully tbh :-s11:31
ObrienDaveiceroot... LOL11:31
Wiz_KeeDdpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture11:31
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... open a terminal. sudo apt-get install ia32libs11:31
Wiz_KeeDOkay ObrienDave11:32
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Wiz_KeeDAnd a real important question I have not been answered yet.If I somehow mess up by installing some wierd packages or from wrong repositories or smth like that and end up with conflicts and all that11:35
Wiz_KeeDWhat is a good backup system that can take a snapshot and you just revert to ti?11:35
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Wiz_KeeDLik the windows recovery thing11:35
ObrienDavenow THAT is a good question11:35
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: you shouldn't be using those "weird" packages as you where told yesterday11:36
ObrienDaveikonia... lol11:36
Wiz_KeeDOr any other mistake that might break my system11:36
Wiz_KeeDCould be multilple causes11:36
Guest87684is there a "Computer" menu in 1304?11:36
Wiz_KeeDI compile wrongly, I install the wrong library and all that11:36
ikoniaWiz_KeeD:if you don't use bad repos - you won't break your system11:36
Wiz_KeeDI cannot be expected to work flawlessly11:36
icerootWiz_KeeD: snapshot of the complete system?11:36
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: you don't need to compile software that can cause a conflict with system libraries11:36
Wiz_KeeDiceroot, yes11:37
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... that's why we are trying to help you. sheesh11:37
Wiz_KeeDikonia, I had MANY MANY conflicts and crashes using JUST the standard repository11:37
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: no you didn't11:37
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: the standard repos do not conflict11:37
Wiz_KeeDObrienDave, in the idea that I might mess up and need to revert11:37
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: the sooner you stop avoiding the advice of keep to the supported ubuntu repos, and don't try to compile software that conflicts with ubuntu software versions - you'll have no fatal problems11:38
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: other types of problems are normally straight forward to fix11:38
Wiz_KeeDThat means I have to know when I install something else if it conflicts or not with ubuntu11:38
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... i do understand your concerns. there are enough good people here that if someone gives you the wrong info, they will be pummeled with a very large trout LMAO11:38
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: no, as if it's in the repo - it doesn't conflict.11:39
Wiz_KeeDhahahha, lol ObrienDave11:40
Wiz_KeeDikonia, I understand11:40
Wiz_KeeDI'll drop the backup idea then11:40
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: nothing wrong with backups11:40
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: but a full system backup for every change, you'll just waste time/disk space11:41
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... backups are your friend, for sure11:41
Wiz_KeeDFile backups are not important to me, I just code in python and save the code with dvcs like git or bzr11:41
Wiz_KeeDthe rest is irrelevant11:41
Guest87684anyone can help me navigate to the "Computer" menu?11:42
Daisyab__i have 2 ubuntu accounts and i cant access one of them ever since i typed in a wrong path for installing xampp.  Can anyone help me recover my other account11:42
ikoniaDaisyab__: xammp has nothing to do with your login11:42
ObrienDaveGuest87684... what "computer" menu? on the desktop?11:42
universalhow to find out if the currrent wireless driver on my system is the lastest one and if not then where to find latest or latest stable one ? hardware is - hp pavilion g6 series laptop with broadcom BCM4313 mini wifi card. current wireless driver is "wl" the default one available in ubuntu 13.04 installed from soft. sources > additional drivers tab. wireless driver package is "bcmwl-kernel-source" Veriosn - 6.20.155.1+bdcom-0ubuntu611:43
ikoniauniversal: use the one ubuntu provides11:43
Daisyab__ikonia: i know that but after i typed in the wrong path for installing xampp that account doesn't open anymore11:43
ikoniaDaisyab__: please define "doesn't open"11:43
Daisyab__i'm thinking that the wrong path was used and it had no where to go11:43
universalikonia: ok...but the current driver 'wl' has some bugs11:43
universalikonia: its freezes system now or then11:44
Daisyab__ikonia: after logging in with a password, my machine goes blank for a sec, then comes right back to the log in page11:44
ikoniaDaisyab__: login as the other user then "su - $other_username"11:45
ikoniaDaisyab__: see if that allows you to switch user withoout any errors/warnings11:45
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... did you d/l ia32libs yet?11:46
Wiz_KeeDIt does not install ObrienDave because I started a backup with backintime program11:46
Wiz_KeeDnow i'm trying to stop and remove it11:46
Daisyab__it does but i cant acces any of the files11:46
Wiz_KeeDBut it moves very sluggish, adn even though I closed it in ps -aux | grep backintime11:46
universal!update11:46
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade11:46
Wiz_KeeDI see a lot if instances running11:46
ObrienDaveNO!!! dont stop the backup!11:46
ikoniaDaisyab__: sounds like the permissions are wrong11:46
Wiz_KeeDand that download of lib is still in 0% in building depdenency tree11:47
Wiz_KeeDnow what? :))11:47
ikoniaDaisyab__: can you do "pwd" when you su - $username11:47
Wiz_KeeDUbuntu is complex as hell man11:47
gerepHi all. What's the Linux Mint channel? I'm worried about my notebook temperature. It's 79ºC (4 cores) and the fan is spinning loud and fast =/11:47
ikonia!mint | gerep11:47
ubottugerep: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org11:47
gerepikonia: that's why I asked what's the channel :) you know it?11:47
Wiz_KeeDnow i'm stuck, only idea that comes to mind is to restart11:48
Daisyab__ikonia: it gives  me /root11:48
gerepikonia: thanks ;)11:48
ikoniagerep: READ the ubottu gave you11:48
ikoniaDaisyab__: what command did you do "su...." exactly.11:48
gerep#linuxmint-help11:48
ikoniagerep: read it PROPERLY11:48
ikoniagerep: it's not on freenode11:48
Daisyab__su -$denis11:48
gerepikonia: sorry, I'm really stupid today hahaha11:48
ikoniait's not funny11:48
Wiz_KeeDany idea ObrienDave ?11:48
gerepikonia: thanks a lot, that will help ;)11:48
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... it's not that difficult. just takes some getting used to is all11:48
Daisyab__denis is the name of otheruse11:48
Daisyab__*otheruser11:48
universal!kernel11:49
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)11:49
ikoniaDaisyab__: what's the exact command you typed please.11:49
Wiz_KeeDI think it's extremly difficult for these special cases, any retard can learn to apt-get install update and remove and kiill a few procceses in minutes11:49
Wiz_KeeDBut for this complex tasks almost nobody has the answer11:49
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: please don't call people retards11:49
Daisyab__ikonia: it was su -$denis11:49
ikoniaDaisyab__: ok, please do "exit" so you are back to your normal user, than do "su - denis"11:49
Wiz_KeeDi'm not calling anyone retard, I was speaking generally to make the idea of "easy" more vivid :)11:50
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: so don't do it please.11:50
Wiz_KeeDHow can I close all instances of backintime thing now...and uninstall it11:50
Daisyab__ikonia: where denis takes the place of 'otheruser'11:50
Wiz_KeeDOr should I restart first...11:50
universalikonia: what about updating kernel to a newer version which contains latest wl drivers11:50
ikoniaDaisyab__: is denis the name of the broken user11:50
ObrienDavedon't need to uninstall BackInTime11:50
Wiz_KeeDLaptop moves right now like it has 200mb of ram11:51
ikoniauniversal: use the kernel ubuntu provides11:51
universalikonia: yea...how to do it ?11:51
Wiz_KeeDObrienDave, need to stop it since it's killing my box and I see it in ps -aux | grep backintime11:51
Wiz_KeeDeven though I've closed everything11:51
Wiz_KeeDAnd it's not running...11:51
ikoniauniversal: you already are using the kernel ubuntu provides11:51
ikoniauniversal: so stick with it11:51
Wiz_KeeDAnd what's the point in keeping it there if i'm not going to use it ObrienDave ? :)11:52
Guest87684ObrienDave, the menu that shows hard drives, and stuff well i guess the windows equivalent is "computer"11:52
Wiz_KeeDanyway, I will restart now11:52
Wiz_KeeDSince I don't know anything beter to do11:52
ObrienDaveWiz_KeeD... go ahead and power off the machine11:52
universalikonia: no i mean the updated kernel....my system is 13.04 and now 13.10 is expected to be rolled out next month so there should a newer kernel11:53
ikoniauniversal: so you upgrade when 13.10 is available11:53
Wiz_KeeDI can't, it moves too slow11:53
Daisyab__ikonia: just did that and entered password then i get an error message -su export: '=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games:/home/denis/lampp': not a valid identifier.  denis is the name of the broken account11:53
Wiz_KeeD:))11:53
Wiz_KeeDGreat os11:53
universalikonia: no fixes for now ? :(11:53
ikoniaDaisyab__: ok, sounds like th profile is messed up a bit11:54
ObrienDaveGuest87684... Ubuntu does not use that type of a menu11:54
ikoniaDaisyab__: can you type "id" please.11:54
ikoniaDaisyab__: (as the user denis)11:54
ikoniaDaisyab__: show me the output11:54
nugroho11.5015.201081.0001 33.7415.201081.000111:54
ObrienDaveGuest87684... you need to start with the folder called "file system"11:54
Guest87684obriendave, in 12.04 i think there use to be that menu by moving ur mouse up to places then computer11:55
Daisyab__what do you mean as the user denis11:55
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Guest87684obriendave, it shows all the listed drives and stuff11:55
ObrienDaveGuest87684... then MOUNTED drives would be listed under the /mnt folder11:55
ikoniaDaisyab__: su - denis, then id11:55
ObrienDaveGuest87684... that's been removed in 13.04 i think11:56
Guest87684obriendave, yeah that was my question, can we get that back?11:56
ObrienDaveGuest87684... not sure, I run Xubuntu11:56
Guest87684obriendave, alright thx for the help11:57
ObrienDaveGuest87684... sorry i could not help you batter11:57
ObrienDave*better11:58
Guest87684obriendave, No problem thx for helping anyways11:58
Daisyab__ikonia: result: uid = 1000(denis) gid = 1000 (denis)  groups = 1000 (denis), 4 (adm), 20 (dialout), 24(cdrom), 46(plugdev), 111(lpadmin), 119(admin), 122(sambashare), 127 (guest)11:59
ikoniaDaisyab__: ok, that's good.11:59
ikoniaDaisyab__: can you do "pwd" too and show me the output11:59
Daisyab__what does all of that mean?12:00
ikoniaDaisyab__: it's giving me information to try to help you12:00
Daisyab__ikonia: it gives me /home/denis12:01
ikoniaDaisyab__: great, so that's a good "standard" setup12:01
ikoniaDaisyab__: just need to fix your profile and hopefully check your permissions12:01
ikoniaDaisyab__: can you do "ls -la"12:01
ikoniaDaisyab__: does that work or complain about permissions12:01
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nugrohoWHA42035512:02
nugrohoSOC15569412:02
FloodBot1nugroho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:02
nugrohoYMH29743312:02
ikonianugroho: please stop that12:02
Daisyab__ikonia: it gives me a long list of files on the home folders on denis12:02
Daisyab__*folder12:03
ObrienDavesomebody boot nugroho12:03
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ikoniaDaisyab__: ok, so that's good12:03
ikoniaDaisyab__: so looks like your permissions are at least "ok"12:03
easihello everyone12:03
somsipikonia: he's being doing it on and off for the last 4 or 5 hours, FWIW12:03
philinuxikonia: wouldn't this be better for daisy ls -la | pastebinit12:03
Daisyab__i can see the file where i typed that wrong path, how can i open it12:04
ikoniaphilinux: not too fussed with the detail at this point, as long as he can read his home directory, that's enough for me12:04
ikoniaDaisyab__: what file do you think it is ?12:04
philinuxikonia: kk12:04
Daisyab__.profile12:04
ikoniaDaisyab__: perfect,12:04
ikoniaDaisyab__: looks like you've found it12:04
ikoniaDaisyab__: so any text editor can open that12:05
Daisyab__so how can i open it from the terminal12:05
[Gentoo]Daisyab__: use a terminal editor like nano or vim12:06
[Gentoo]nano .profile12:06
RobinJis there anything special i need to do before attempting to install ubuntu 13.04 in a dual boot with windows 8?12:06
[Gentoo]Daisyab__: for nano press control + x then enter to save12:06
[Gentoo]RobinJ: aftert windows 8 is installed?12:06
RobinJyes12:06
RobinJit came preinstalled12:06
ObrienDaveRobinJ... YES. read up on installing under UEFI12:06
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RobinJwell damn12:07
[Gentoo]i think grub should pick the install up but im not 100% sure about windows 812:07
easiwho know red hat12:07
ObrienDavehang on a sec12:07
bazhang#rhel easi12:07
siberiannerdwhat do i do if insmod normal fails with "not found" ?12:07
[Gentoo]siberiannerd: rebuild the modules12:07
ikonia[Gentoo]: no !!!12:08
ikonia[Gentoo]: "not found" = not there, you can't rebuild what's not there12:08
easirpm file association failure is how12:08
bazhang!ot | easi12:08
ubottueasi: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:08
easi?12:08
ObrienDaveRobinJ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI12:08
bazhangeasi, go ask in a redhat centos channel12:08
bazhangeasi, #centos12:08
easihow i join it12:09
bazhangeasi /join #centos12:09
easithanks12:09
RobinJoh great so i should disable my ssd? -.-12:09
marco__hallo12:10
ObrienDaveRobinJ... i don't think it will actually disable your SSD, no12:11
RobinJit says i need to disable intel srt12:11
RobinJwhich is teh technology used for a caching ssd12:12
ObrienDaveRobinJ... that's just the cache, not the drive.12:13
RobinJ....12:13
RobinJit's a caching ssd. it does nothing but acting as a cache.12:13
siberiannerdwhat do i do if insmod normal fails with "not found" ?12:14
ObrienDaveRobinJ... SRT is an intermediary between the system and the drive, sort of like a RAM buffer.12:15
dwatkinssiberiannerd: see above, please12:16
dwatkinsoh, sorry, this was already discussed12:16
siberiannerdgrub "points to the wrong place" after installation, `insmod normal` reports "not found" which steps can i perform to get closer to solution?12:16
dwatkinsI get the impression there's much more to this.12:16
siberiannerdwhatever, the brightly sharp problem description as is delivered, what else can i tell?12:17
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yicakapt-get don't work12:18
ikoniawhy someone would look at insmod for kernel modules because grub is looking at the wrong place is beyond me12:19
* cfhowlett ...manfually resisting the urge to contribute an extraneous commentary12:20
cfhowlett*manfully*12:20
Ipzaelhi12:20
siberiannerddo this i'm open for critics due to the fact i'm really that noob12:20
cfhowlettIpzael, greetings12:20
Daisyab__ikonia:, Gentoo: you guys are life savers. Thank you so much12:22
yicaki'm a noob to ubuntu12:22
ObrienDaveYAY! another happy customer LOL12:22
ikoniaDaisyab__: glad you are working12:22
monkeyjuiceyicak:  what are you trying to do12:22
yicaksomebody say LOL12:23
ObrienDaveLOL12:23
yicakwhat's LOL12:23
ObrienDaveLaugh Out Loud12:23
OddPizza_my ssh client works on my mobile data network, but not on my internet. what is potentially wrong? I'm getting "connection refused"12:23
yicakObrienDave, LOL is a online game12:25
dwatkinsOddPizza_: possibly simply that your mobile provider blocks ssh12:25
bucketm0useDoes anyone know if it's possible to dual-boot + secure boot with UEFI Windows 8 / Ubuntu (12.04)12:25
OddPizza_dwatkins: it works on my mobile data. not on my network however. ie my school internet12:26
dwatkinsOddPizza_: your school blocks ssh, which is unsurprising12:26
OddPizza_oh12:26
ObrienDaveyicak... not in an IRC chat room it isn't12:26
OddPizza_probably I guess. dwatkins :/ mmk. thanks12:27
daftykinsObrienDave: yeah, yeah it is. things can have multiple meanings here too! :)12:27
[Gentoo]OddPizza_: could try enabling ssh on another port12:27
ObrienDaveOMG, shows how old i'm getting to be LMAO12:27
bucketm0useOddPizza_, you may be able to talk to a Dean if you need SSH access. Get a higher-up to sign off on a request like that and submit it to a network administrator.12:27
dwatkins[Gentoo]: that may still violate the terms of use of the network12:28
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apsHi every body12:36
cfhowlettaps, greetings12:36
apsfirst time  I am in this chat12:37
bucketm0useIs it possible to Dual Boot and Secure Boot (UEFI) Ubuntu 12.04 and Windows 8?12:37
BluesKaj!eufi | bucketm0use12:39
apsthanks  cfhowlett12:40
vmachine1i want to search for two exact word using grep.. but im having some issues... i want to search for the word deny and 5.5.5.5  .. grep 'deny' '5.5.5.' logs12:40
BluesKajoops12:40
bucketm0use!uefi | bucketm0use12:40
ubottubucketm0use, please see my private message12:40
bucketm0useBluesKaj, ubottu, much obliged12:40
vmachine1whats the syntax to search for those two exact terms12:40
BluesKajbucketm0use, hope it helps12:40
siberiannerdthere is no way to fix the bootloader if it is clear from-under grub rescue that there is no normal.mod under /boot/grub on boot device right?12:50
WACOMaltHi folks. I have a bit of an onusual question. As happens often on IT fields, you have to deal with windows.  I am needing to download a windows ISO from my technet subscription, but I have to do so from Ubuntu, and from terminal only13:01
WACOMaltI have tried combos of curl, wget, and axel13:02
cfhowlettWACOMalt, meaning IE only, right?13:02
WACOMaltnothing can resolve the URL.13:02
WACOMaltNo13:02
WACOMaltI could download form firefox or chrome in ubuntu fine13:02
WACOMaltbut they use a serverside dll to redirect the download.13:02
WACOMaltand I have to log in with my account.13:02
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daftykinsWACOMalt: how is it that you don't have another computer to hand?13:03
WACOMaltthe firect download link is something like http://technet.microsoft.com/subscriptions/json/GetDownloadRequest?brand=TechNet&locale=en-US&fileId=46948&activexDisabled=true&akamaiDL=false13:03
WACOMaltwell, realistically I could download this here, then upload to the server13:03
Wiz_KeeDwell now13:03
WACOMaltbut I'm wanting to learn how if possible, to do this via the server directly13:03
PiciWACOMalt: have you tried using w3m to browse the site instead of trying to figure out what the url is?13:03
Wiz_KeeDI had to reinstall my ubuntu becuase of that backup program that Froze my computer13:03
Wiz_KeeDgreat!13:03
WACOMaltso I dont have to transfer it twice13:03
Wiz_KeeDIt just gets better and better13:03
WACOMaltw3m, I hadnt. I'll try that13:04
WACOMaltbut arent scripts generally unsupported in that13:04
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: you don't re-install if a program hangs13:04
WACOMaltneither curl or wget support redirects in this way?13:04
Wiz_KeeDikonia, every time i booted it froze everything, to do sudo reboot it took about 4 minutes13:05
PiciWACOMalt: there are likely other things going on here, like checking for cookies.13:05
WACOMaltw3m reports "javascript required to login"13:05
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: so ? you just remove it / disable it13:05
Wiz_KeeDI can't13:05
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: why ?13:05
Wiz_KeeDI wanted to do apt-get remove backintime --purge13:05
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: ....and13:05
Wiz_KeeDdidn't get the chance everything froze up before I could do it13:05
WACOMaltthe thing is. I was able to get the download manager "flashget" on a windows machine to download this file locally13:05
WACOMaltwith no cookies13:05
WACOMaltjust passed the url and the login info13:06
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: so you ask for help - it's easy to fix that, rather than re-installing and wise cracking "great" because you did something people kept advising you not to do13:06
WACOMaltso it SHOULD be possible as long as the redirect gets supported13:06
Wiz_KeeDI could not ask for help I could barely type in the terminal not to mention running xchat :)))13:06
PiciWACOMalt: I don't know then, sorry.13:06
Pici5/7013:06
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: then following adivice and not doing the opposite of what advised seems a better way forwad13:07
Wiz_KeeDNow for example, I wanted to install broadcom wireless driver from producer (on the top right bar) and it gave an error, now i want to close that application but no matter if i do alt tab or click on it nothing happens13:07
Wiz_KeeDnot even quitting it from the launcher on the left13:07
Wiz_KeeDright13:07
WACOMaltDang. I'm suprised that flashget can download from this URL and nothing on ubuntu can. Considering flashget is likely built on most of the open source libraries that linux uses like curl and wget13:08
Wiz_KeeDsorry i logged off an in13:09
Wiz_KeeDhow do i get the link for isntalling skype from the bot here?13:10
iceroot!skype | Wiz_KeeD13:10
ubottuWiz_KeeD: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga13:10
WACOMalt!skype13:10
Wiz_KeeDthank you13:10
WACOMalthmm guess not. didnt work for me13:10
PiciWACOMalt: thats because the bot just said it a second ago.13:10
WACOMaltah13:10
icerootWACOMalt: the bot is only answering once in a minute for the same search term to not flood the channel, everything was correct13:11
WACOMaltmakes sense13:11
bucketm0useWACOMalt, did you try wget -L ?13:11
WACOMaltbucketm0use, yup13:11
bucketm0usebummer13:11
Wiz_KeeDand I had to install someting before sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 for it to work13:11
WACOMalttell me about it. my upload speed here is painful. so now instead of a 15 minute download. it will be a 1 hour download, and a 8 hour upload. :|13:12
siberiannerdthere is no way to fix the bootloader if it is clear from-under grub rescue that there is no normal.mod under /boot/grub on boot device right?13:12
Wiz_KeeD!add-architecture i38613:12
Wiz_KeeD!dpkg --add-architecture i38613:13
ubottuWiz_KeeD: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:13
DeonPfirewall is set to accept all atm, with nat from lan to internet working fine.no other policies defined.if i try to access webserver from internet via tunnel, tcpdump shows browser requests on tunnel ppp port but apache not responding or not receiving the packets13:13
DeonPsorry missed first line, got l2tp client up and running+ above msg13:14
bucketm0useQ: If I dual-boot Windows 8 + Ubuntu 12.04 - would it be worth it to install them both on 1TB HDDs and use my 256GB SSD as cache ?13:14
Tuesdayhow do i start gcaltool from terminal13:15
bucketm0useTuesday, gcalctool from term?13:15
siberiannerdbucketm0use, there is some bcache http://bcache.evilpiepirate.org/13:15
cfhowlettbucketm0use, type gcalctool13:15
Tuesdaythat didn't work13:16
bucketm0usenotice you were missing a 'c'13:16
pgimenoI'm having a problem, Apache filled the hard disk log apparently because of a corrupted gnutls cache, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=576676 - is it safe to remove /var/cache/apache2/gnutls_cache ?13:16
ubottuDebian bug 576676 in libapache2-mod-gnutls "libapache2-mod-gnutls: trashes system log if cache is corrupted" [Important,Open]13:16
cfhowlettTuesday, is it installed?13:16
Wiz_KeeDsudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 does not work it says it is not found13:16
bucketm0usety cfhowlett I'll look into this13:16
Tuesdayoh wait it worked i forgot the c lol13:16
cfhowlettd'oh!13:16
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ChathurgaI'm having a problem with manually installing X on a stripped down ubuntu13:18
Chathurganone of the window or file managers are starting automatically13:18
cfhowlettChathurga, how did you strip down?13:18
Chathurgaso when I do startx gnome starts but metacity/gnome-panel doesnt, any ideas?13:18
BenkinoobyChathurga: why do you want it to start automatically?13:18
Chathurgahttp://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/13:18
cfhowlettChathurga, so an unofficial derivative?  Why not install Ubuntu mini and build up the OS you want.13:19
cfhowlett!mini|Chathurga,13:19
ubottuChathurga,: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD13:19
BenkinoobyChathurga: do what cfhowlett said - this is what i do too13:19
BenkinoobyChathurga: the main advantag is, that you use "officical" ubuntu and have better support here13:20
ChathurgaThe only problem is this is for like an educational class where we boot into the terminal at first and have them startx13:20
Chathurgait'll be mass printed onto usbs13:20
cfhowlettChathurga, so?  mini can do that ...13:20
ChathurgaOkay I'll have a look at that13:21
zykotick9Chathurga: was is in your .xinitrc file?13:21
ChathurgaI've tried pretty much every combo, one sec13:21
Wiz_KeeDsudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 return dpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture13:22
BooeyOHhow do you use the package selector that is available at install after you install (on 12.04 if that makes a difference)13:22
cfhowlettBooeyOH, you mean the software center?13:23
zykotick9BooeyOH: "tasksel" perhaps?13:23
BooeyOHnot sure, this is the server edition13:23
cfhowlett!ubuntu-server|BooeyOH13:23
ubottuBooeyOH: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server13:23
Wiz_KeeDanyone?13:23
BooeyOHsorry13:23
cfhowlettBooeyOH, no apologies needed.13:24
Wiz_KeeD!flash-player13:25
Wiz_KeeD!flash player13:25
Wiz_KeeD!flash13:25
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash13:25
BenkinoobyChathurga: if you build from minimal - first thing you need to get is gdm or an other desktop/login manager - it is very important for permission and it took me some time to find that out ;)13:26
bucketm0useWiz_KeeD, what are you trying to do13:26
Pici!fishing | Wiz_KeeD13:26
ubottuWiz_KeeD: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".13:26
ChathurgaMine boots into gnome but I must start metacity manually, it's driven me tot the limit at this stage13:27
Wiz_KeeDbucketm0use, install skype properly on ubuntu 12.04 6413:27
BenkinoobyChathurga: well, i am sure there is a file for gnome, where you enter the stuff you want to autostart13:27
BenkinoobyChathurga: what exactly are your requirements? what do you want to do (big picture)?13:28
bucketm0useWiz_KeeD, sudo apt-get install skype ?13:28
Wiz_KeeDwish it was that simple13:28
Wiz_KeeDit's not included13:28
Wiz_KeeDnot for 6413:28
ChathurgaEverything else is sorted, it's actually just getting gnome-panel, metacity and nautalis to start with startx but for some reason their not13:29
CatKillerwww.skype.com/download?13:29
ChathurgaI'm not sure how that's controlled in a working setup13:29
Subzerodownload .deb package and run sudo -dpkg -i nameofpackage13:29
Wiz_KeeD!skype13:29
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga13:29
Wiz_KeeDthat link says no13:29
CatKillersays no?13:29
Wiz_KeeDIt is highly recommended to use the package provided in the Canonical partner repository, not the one distributed from the skype website, as the skype website currently points users to the wrong package for 64-bit systems of Ubuntu 11.10 and above.13:29
bucketm0useWiz_KeeD, http://rumytaulu.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/cant-install-ia32-libs-and-ia32-libs-multiarch-how-to-fix-it/13:29
PiciWiz_KeeD: so, what happens when you try to install it?13:29
Wiz_KeeDI never TRY to do anything since last time It crashed using experiements, and everyone is bitching constantly to NEVER stray away from the standard repository13:30
Wiz_KeeDmy options are limited13:30
BenkinoobyChathurga: what do you use for login?13:30
bucketm0useWiz_KeeD, follow that link. Afterwards do 'sudo apt-get install skype'13:30
Wiz_KeeDBut this is by far not an exact science, everyone has a method13:30
PiciWiz_KeeD: What happens when you do 'sudo apt-get install skype'13:30
Chathurgaauto logs in as some "ubuntu" username13:31
BenkinoobyChathurga: maybe use lightdm or gdm for graphical login?13:31
Wiz_KeeDbucketm0use, sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 when i do that it does not recognise the command13:31
Wiz_KeeDPici, it's not in the repositories13:31
BenkinoobyChathurga: that is not the aswer to my question: what do you use for login?13:31
Wiz_KeeDi did apt-cache search skype and there's no such thing for 64 bit13:31
cfhowlettWiz_KeeD, never say never.  The only way I could get the non-PRC backdoor version of skype here in Beijing was to have someone dropbox the .deb.  sudo dpkg -i skype has been running great ever since.13:31
BenkinoobyChathurga: do you get grapical interface before or after the users gets auto-logged in13:31
Chathurgaoh gdm13:31
bucketm0useWiz_KeeD, the link I sent you does not ask you to do that though?13:31
Wiz_KeeDJust scared13:31
Chathurgaafter13:32
Wiz_KeeDbucketm0use, sorry?13:32
cfhowlettWiz_KeeD, 4.2.0.11 for ubuntu 12.04 is in AMD64 packages ...13:32
bucketm0useIf you're not confident then I wouldn't recommend trying it13:32
BenkinoobyChathurga: is it an option for you to install gdm or any other GUI Login manager?13:32
Wiz_KeeDidk what you just said cfhowlett :))13:32
cfhowlettDesktop$ apt-cache policy skype13:33
cfhowlettskype:13:33
cfhowlett  Installed: 4.2.0.11-0ubuntu0.12.04.213:33
cfhowlett  Candidate: 4.2.0.11-0ubuntu0.12.04.213:33
cfhowlett  Version table:13:33
FloodBot1cfhowlett: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:33
cfhowlett *** 4.2.0.11-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 013:33
ChathurgaNot with the way things are structured in the course no13:33
Wiz_KeeDso what am I supposed to understand/do now?13:33
cfhowlettWiz_KeeD, get that package and install.  don't understand why you're reporting that it doesn't exist.13:34
Wiz_KeeDSo I asked one question got 3 different answers, someone says i should download form the site the 32 bit one, one says I should use those repositories, another says I should get a deb and do it myslef :))13:34
bucketm0useSo you have 3 solutions to 1 problem?13:34
cfhowlettWiz_KeeD, open source = choice.  :)13:34
* cfhowlett thinks it's better than having 99 problems ...13:35
bucketm0useThink of it as a blessing in disguise!13:35
Wiz_KeeDI will avoid of thinking like that since they cannot have the same consequences13:35
Wiz_KeeDespecially when the official documentation from here says: It is highly recommended to use the package provided in the Canonical partner repository, not the one distributed from the skype website, as the skype website currently points users to the wrong package for 64-bit systems of Ubuntu 11.10 and above.13:36
BenkinoobyChathurga: how are things going on?13:36
Wiz_KeeDHad too much trouble from advice thrown just like that, I have no idea what i'm doing since i'm new here but it's clear that most of the people offering advice are not experts and do not know the full extent of the consequences13:36
PiciWiz_KeeD: and yet we are the same people that write this documentation that you're reading...13:37
Shogooti people. I go tthis if ($this->dateTo) return false; is that the same as say if (isset($this->dateTo)) return false; or how does that evaluate? dateTo is a timestamp object.13:37
cfhowlett!details|Shogoot, ??? w13:38
ubottuShogoot, ??? w: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:38
Wiz_KeeDThen i have no idea what to do13:38
LinuxHey i was just woundering.... does Linux Own Wine program?13:38
PiciWiz_KeeD: What does the contents of /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch say?13:38
BenkinoobyShogoot: also maybe #bash or ##bash is a better place to ask?13:38
Wiz_KeeDI will install it from the site and when I come back and say Skype crashes and reply how I installed it13:38
cfhowlettWiz_KeeD, 3 possible solutions, try #1, #2, #3 ...13:38
Wiz_KeeDI will be made an idiot or some sort :)13:38
ChathurgaIf you're asking how tihngs happen, we boot into terminal then get people to manually startx, gnome loads up but no gnome-panel, naut, metacity13:38
geirhaLinux: No, wine has no relation to linux13:38
Chathurgaafter startx when I opena  terminal I can launch metacity no problem13:39
Linuxok thx13:39
zhangxunol13:39
ChathurgaI've tried placing metacity, nautilis and gnome-panel in ~/.xinitrc but nothing changes13:39
PiciWiz_KeeD: I'm trying to help you without you trying random things because you don't seem to be comfortable with that. What does the contents of /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch say?13:39
zhangxunhow many are you?13:39
cfhowlettzhangxun, ???13:40
Wiz_KeeDPici, should I vim that?13:40
PiciWiz_KeeD: you can just cat it13:40
BenkinoobyChathurga: install gdm13:40
gabrielczHello all!13:40
Wiz_KeeDPici, foreign-architecture i38613:40
cfhowlettgabrielcz, greetings13:40
gabrielczI can not get samba with WRITE permission!13:40
zykotick9Chathurga: what is in your .xinitrc right now?  can you put it on paste.ubuntu.com?13:40
gabrielczanyone can try to help me please?13:40
cfhowlett!ask|gabrielcz,13:41
ubottugabrielcz,: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:41
gabrielczI have my co workers ...13:41
PiciWiz_KeeD: Then you already have multiarch enabled, you can skip the "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" step and go on to the next one.13:41
gabrielczI can not get write permission on a samba share13:41
gabrielcz:D13:41
Wiz_KeeDStrange as it does not work Pici though13:41
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gabrielczI don´t get it.! I just did my question :D13:42
zykotick9Chathurga: and is this gnome2 or gnome3?  gnome2 uses metacity, gnome3 uses mutter (i believe)13:42
cfhowlett!details|gabrielcz,13:42
ubottugabrielcz,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:42
gabrielczIm doing that cfhowlett13:42
Wiz_KeeDsudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"13:42
PiciWiz_KeeD: yes, that13:42
Wiz_KeeDis that to be trusted for all applications?13:42
gabrielczI have problem with samba server give write users13:42
gabrielczwhat else? :)13:43
Wiz_KeeDstrange as searching with google for that command just skype shows up13:43
PiciWiz_KeeD: That is canonical's partner repository. Nothing is going to be installed from there unless you install it.13:44
gabrielczCan anyone help me give users white access to a samba server?13:44
Wiz_KeeDWho's Canonical and when do I know if it's using that repository when I do another apt-get install?13:44
PiciWiz_KeeD: Canonical is the company that funds development of Ubuntu.13:45
cfhowlett!canonical13:45
ubottuCanonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/13:45
Wiz_KeeDAnd it's not included in the standard repositories because...13:45
PiciWiz_KeeD: because there are mostly commercial software packages on there that don't go through the normal packaging process.13:46
cfhowlettWiz_KeeD, because it's PARTNER software not canonical software.13:46
Wiz_KeeDyet they are reliable13:47
cfhowlettWiz_KeeD, partners are vetted, yes.13:47
Wiz_KeeDI'm veery slowly starting to understand but it seems I should devote a lot more time and interest in this process13:47
Pici!partner | Wiz_KeeD13:47
ubottuWiz_KeeD: Canonical's partner repositories provide a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »13:47
Wiz_KeeDokay, installing skype this way13:47
neq8376skype is non-free, proprietary, closed source software13:47
Wiz_KeeDto update a certain package i should do apt-get install package right?13:47
Wiz_KeeDin order to not update all of them13:47
cfhowlettWiz_KeeD, correct13:47
Wiz_KeeDclosed source software, got it neq837613:47
Wiz_KeeDJust like the wireless drivers that did not work? :(13:48
cfhowlettWiz_KeeD, well, actually, sudo apt-get install software13:48
ChathurgaThis is the commands I run when the ISO is being created: http://pastebin.com/FPwLJwWH13:48
neq8376Wiz_KeeD: i only buy hardware that runs with open source drivers13:48
Wiz_KeeDA bit too late for that neq8376 :)13:48
Wiz_KeeD!dropbox13:48
Wiz_KeeDubottu knows nothing about dropbox, eeek13:49
ubottuWiz_KeeD: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:49
PiciWiz_KeeD: Please /msg ubottu instead of randomly trying commands.  The rest of us know these commands exist before trying them here.13:49
WACOMaltFow anyone wondering, I figured out how to download from technet via command line.   I ad to include login info directly in the URL. and replace the @ sign in my email with + and special characters in the password with their % codes13:49
Wiz_KeeDokay Pici, sorry13:49
WACOMaltpain in the butt but it worked13:49
cfhowlettWACOMalt, might be worth posting a tutorial in the forums.  glad you fingered it out.13:50
Wiz_KeeDso no documented information about dropbox13:51
Wiz_KeeDI see there's a nautilius and dropbox integration, but that doesn't mean it installs dropbox right?13:51
cfhowlettWiz_KeeD, for this one, you go the dropbox site.13:51
Wiz_KeeDI see it has a 64 bit deb file13:52
Wiz_KeeDIs this truly trusted? Not like the skype one? :))13:52
cfhowletthttps://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx13:52
cfhowlettWiz_KeeD, it's as trusted as skype is ..13:52
ChathurgaI tried putting gnome-session; exec metacity; exec gnome-panel but this fails. I put . /etc/X11/Xsession; exec metacity; exec gnome-panel in .xinitrc gnome starts but metacyity and gnome-panel do not.13:52
Wiz_KeeDAnd how does downloading it and double-clicking it any different fomthe dpkg -i thingy?13:52
zykotick9Chathurga: "exec gnome-session" should be all you need...13:53
WACOMaltso curl -L http://username+email.com:PASSWORD%40%40@sub.domain.com/path/and/redirect/arguments/and/stuff&stuff13:53
geirhaWACOMalt: You can use a .netrc file to avoid putting the username and password in the url. See curl's -n option13:55
WACOMaltoh neat. Thanks for that... that totally woulda saved me so much time13:56
Wiz_KeeDCould anyone tell me the difference between clicking on the .deb file and doing dpkg -i package.deb in console?13:56
boxmeinHey, my ubuntu 13.04 is not utilizing my wireless card. It used to so I somehow fucked it up. I have a feeling it was with the installation of some other drivers, so tg3 < b43. Could you point me to what I should do next? Also, here's some data. http://pastebin.com/mfyRgeGF13:57
boxmeinthe driver used to be b43 I am almost sure yet it's tg3 now and I am leaning towards blaming the entire thing on that13:58
andreligneanyone using gala here?13:59
BenkinoobyWiz_KeeD: hm, i'm no expert but i guess ther is no difference, since .deb packages should be openend by your package manager anyway14:00
BenkinoobyWiz_KeeD: so it's either "open this deb with the package manager" or "package manager, please open this file" - that's how i see it, but you better check back with the experts her14:01
Benkinooby*here14:01
siberiannerdi got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/14:04
Wiz_KeeDI wish some would answer Benkinooby :))14:05
SuperLagI'm using Pidgin, and in Unity, the "tray" icon isn't showing up. Is that a known issue?14:06
siberiannerdthe things is sdb is the drive on sata i installed from and currently running live from14:06
Wiz_KeeDbrb14:06
zhangxunbrb14:07
zhangxunbrb14:07
zhangxunbrb14:07
FloodBot1zhangxun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:07
zhangxunbrb14:07
BenkinoobyWiz_KeeD: well, most of not all people here are helping for free - so if no one answers, thei either don't know, or don't have time for you14:07
zhangxunwhat14:07
zhangxunwhat14:07
zhangxunwhat's matter?14:07
zhangxunhello?14:08
helmut_hi14:08
zhangxunhi14:08
caodepalhahi everyone! is it possible to change desktop enviroments and keep programs opened running?14:08
zhangxunfor example?14:08
zhangxunI don't understand14:09
Wiz_KeeDCan anyone tell me how to install the broadcom wireless driver since by default Ubuntu 12.04 64 could not install it by default?14:09
siberiannerdyeah in theory if x sessions were handled in different way i suspect, so most probably no14:09
caodepalhai use ubuntustudio to make music but when i'm just doing other stuff i like to use the gnome desktop. if i'm on ubuntustudio and want to change to gnome can i keep the programs open while changing?14:10
SuperLagcaodepalha: I doubt it. The programs you start in one DE are child processes of that DE's session. So when you kill that DE to switch to the other one, all the child processes die.14:10
caodepalhaand is there a way to remember and reopen programs from the last session?14:11
SuperLagcaodepalha: Now... if these are console-based programs, like something you kick off from the command-line, then you can use something like screen or tmux... and start that app from a screen/tmux session, and that would persist across your change of DE14:11
zhangxunI agree with SuperLag14:11
siberiannerdcaodepalha, why not to have 2 different users for that purpose and keep things opened for another user's session?14:11
SuperLagcaodepalha: ^^ good idea ^^14:12
zhangxunhaha14:12
zhangxunwhere are You?14:12
lesshastewhere do I find a printing option saying double sided should be default?14:12
lesshasteI can't see it in "printing"14:12
siberiannerdi got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/14:12
boxmeinugh14:13
Wiz_KeeDDropbox says, in order to run dropbox you must install the proprietary daemon...what the hell is that14:13
caodepalhayou mean creating another user and allow programs between both?14:14
siberiannerddropbox or daemon? or propietary?14:14
BluesKaj!dropbox14:14
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: Okay, so.... you want Dropbox. What's the problem?14:15
Wiz_KeeDthat's what dropbox says when I launch it for the first time14:15
WACOMaltDang I was wrong. even that doesnt work14:15
BluesKajdropbox needs nautilus integration on gnome14:15
Wiz_KeeDNEEDS it?14:15
boxmeinugh getting wireless driver stuff to work on linux is a pain14:15
boxmeinat least it works on windows14:15
Wiz_KeeDThen I should have installed it with that, but someone here suggested I should get the deb from the dropbox site :)14:15
BluesKajwell it's easier14:15
SuperLagBluesKaj: actually, didn't we have this discussion just the other day? :)14:15
SuperLagoh wait14:16
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: are you on 13.04?14:16
Wiz_KeeD12.04 SuperLag14:16
Wiz_KeeD64 bi14:16
BluesKajSuperLag, yes , but I use kde so it's differnt since dolphin isn't setup to integrate with dropbox14:16
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: yes, you should use the nautilus integration14:17
ferrieresHi everybody !14:17
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: there are ways to do it without, but it's *much* easier to just use what they provide14:17
zhangxunKeep on question14:17
ferrieresSlow rendering since 4-5 days now (back to work) ... any help ?14:17
Wiz_KeeDSuperLag, so now because I've listened someone on this channel to download dropbox from the site and install it, was the wrong move right?14:18
BluesKajWiz_KeeD, https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx14:19
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: no, not at all...14:19
CiscOHdoes anyone know of a good how to guide for creating an IPSec tunnel between two ubuntu servers? this will not bridge local LANs. I have 1 VPS i wish to connect to a local server. This will carry email, NFS traffic14:19
ferrieresI try to find what has run bad on my comp. Seems that having a ATI/AMD is not a good idea with the 12.04 but perhapps it's the main pb...14:20
Wiz_KeeDNow it's downloading using the .deb I dowloaded and radn myself, now what?14:20
Wiz_KeeDwhat's the BEST move now...14:20
BluesKajWiz_KeeD, that site should help you install it14:20
boxmeinOkay scratch my last statement. I might've got jockey to work.14:20
Wiz_KeeDAnd it's stuck on 16% moving really slow14:20
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: what's stuck on 16%?14:20
Wiz_KeeDthe dropbox.deb file downloaded form the site which is downloading dropbox itself when running14:21
Wiz_KeeD18%14:21
CiscOHi was hoping for something less bloated than OpenVPN for UDP transport14:21
siberiannerdi got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/14:21
BluesKajWiz_KeeD, being a deb file just click on it when it's finished downloading and it will install itself14:21
siberiannerdCiscOH, what's wrong with openvpn?14:21
Wiz_KeeDSo it makes NO DIFFERENCE at all if i install it like this, or through the command line, or through the dropbox-nautilius integration that downloads and does it for me...14:22
Wiz_KeeDBecause the installation might work, but last time I ended up with some nasty errors that appeared eevery 10 minutes or so14:22
CiscOHsiberiannerd, it is using too much memory for my taste14:23
siberiannerdCiscOH, ssh tunnel maybe?14:23
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: I don't understand what you think the problem is. Download the .deb, install it. Start Dropbox, it will have you restart nautilus, and then register or log in if you have an account already... it's not complex.14:23
CiscOHssh is tcp14:23
CiscOHi need udp. tcp will add too much overhead14:24
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: is the download process itself where the trouble is?14:24
Wiz_KeeDThere are 3 totally different ways of installing the same software, before installing now it showed me some missing libraris and that proprietary daemon, and I don't feel comfortable installing without knowing what's hapening or what's the best method14:24
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siberiannerdCiscOH, well do you need security or nicer response and resource consumption?14:24
Wiz_KeeDIf i come back and say "Dropbox is giving a lot of errors" and i'm asked how i installed it then i will be persecuted for doing it badly, then maybe even some repository conflicts as it is custom to happen14:24
Wiz_KeeDAnd I want to avoid complications but being very thorugh in what I do14:25
JMichaelXi have a home server running ubuntu 12.04.3. it has 2 audio adapters, one is NVIDIA (digital), and the other is a c-media USB audio adapter. i configured alsa-base.conf to give index 0 to the USB adapter. audio is working, but i cannot adjust volume... using mpd or mocp, etc. any suggestions?14:25
LordDragonhey all14:25
LordDragoni am getting a blank screen in the "canonical partner" sectin of software center14:25
LordDragoni went into "sources" and checked the partner boxes14:25
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: right. In my opinion, and BluesKaj seems to echo the same sentiment, getting the .deb file from the dropbox.com site, and installing it that way is best.14:25
LordDragondid a apt-get update14:25
CiscOHsiberiannerd, i am not sure what that is supposed to mean. i am simply asking if anyone knows of an easy guide for setting up IPSec tunnels between 2 ubuntu serves'14:25
LordDragonbut its still blank after reboot14:26
CiscOHservers*14:26
LordDragonanyone know why it might be blank?14:26
Wiz_KeeDok SuperLag, thanks for the vote of confidence!14:26
Wiz_KeeDI will wait and see14:26
Wiz_KeeDAfter it finishes installing I can sudo apt-get install the nautilius integration?14:27
siberiannerdCiscOH, yeah but at the same time you're not comfortable about using openvpn complaining for your taste of ram consumption, do you notice the dissonance in the context?14:27
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: it will set up the integration for you automatically. When you double-click on the .deb file, it will download all the dependencies and do the magic.14:27
Wiz_KeeDOk then, I will wait and see14:28
LordDragonis there an apt-get command i can use to install flash?14:28
zihubulol14:29
SuperLagLordDragon: I believe that would be flashplugin-installer14:29
nickguletskiiHi, what steps should I take if a bug has been falsely marked as "fix released"?14:29
LordDragonSuperLag: thanks ill try that14:29
SuperLagLordDragon: i.e. apt-get install flashplugin-installer14:29
geniiLordDragon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras14:29
siberiannerdLordDeath, you're looking for flashplugin-installer probably?14:29
geniiLordDragon: ( Will get Flash plus some other stuff )14:30
SuperLagLordDragon: yeah, what genii said is more thorough14:30
LordDragonthanks genii14:30
siberiannerdoh sorry too many lords here14:30
SuperLaglisten to genii14:30
geniiLordDragon: np14:30
SuperLagsiberiannerd: and not enough ladies14:30
CiscOHsiberiannerd, my statement was that it was using too much memory for the task. one tunnel to another server. i am not connecting other clients to it.14:30
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Wiz_KeeDI forgot the name of the bot14:31
Wiz_KeeD!adobe-air14:31
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: ubottu14:31
Wiz_KeeDtrying to install adobe air in 12.04 64 bits14:31
Wiz_KeeDughh ugly14:31
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: yuck. I feel sorry for you, that you need Adobe Air.14:31
Wiz_KeeDI really do need it unfortunately :(14:31
siberiannerdCiscOH, the very best implememntation in context of security is openvpn which also supports compression and udp as you probably know, ssh brings the same degree of secure but you still insist to get a lighter version of something similar, right?14:32
stewbydoo2so my boss just told me ubuntu server is less secure than microsoft servers..true or false?14:32
stewbydoo2he said unix in general has much more exploits then windows14:33
Wiz_KeeDSuperLag, what is the command to get infomration about a certain package on what it does? short description14:33
nickguletskiihmm, could someone please answer a small question? what steps should I take if a bug has been falsely marked as "fix released"?14:33
stewbydoo2I need someone to tell me if he is full of shit or if he is right14:33
SandflyHello - I have just upgraded my version of openvpn on ubuntu 1204.3 LTS - I followed the instuctions on the official page http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/i386/openvpn/download - then i did apt-get update & upgrade and basically my entire system has been updated - it looks like it is all ok - in future could i use a command like "apt-get upgrade openvpn" to avoid my entire system being updated ? - thanks14:33
BluesKajstewbydoo2, your boiss drank the MS kool ade14:33
DJonesstewbydoo2: Not really a question for this channel, you should probably join #ubuntu-offtopic for a better discussion on that14:33
jcbjoedoes ubuntu have an app thats like itunes ?14:34
CiscOHi am looking for the lightest possible IPSEC/UDP solution for a single server to server tunnel14:34
Wiz_KeeDapt-cache show it was14:34
BluesKaj!itunes14:35
ubottuitunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee14:35
siberiannerdstewbydoo2, the things is that it doesn't really matter due to the fact that linux systems are harder to exploit because of overall environmental complexities, but that's just my subjective point of view, however the whole discussion is pointless because there is no such thing as "exploit for linux"14:35
davidbrookeI need some help with a tv remote control and udev....using 13.04 and 13.10...udev assigns the remote control as a keyboard and I can't use the remote with lirc....in past versions of ubuntu...udev didn't bother the remote and I could use lirc...any ideas?14:36
Wiz_KeeDis this a good tutorial?14:36
Wiz_KeeDhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/87447/how-can-i-install-adobe-air14:36
siberiannerdi got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/14:36
g105bCan anyone recommend iPod software? gtkpod crashes, rhythmbox crashes, banshee works (but the ipod skips after 1 second of each song).14:36
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: are you seriously in need of Air... THAT bad? No non-Air alternative?14:36
Wiz_KeeDnon, tied to it with my life14:36
Wiz_KeeDnone*14:36
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: I would avoid it. Adobe has even stopped development on it.14:37
yeehii have a desktop/gui. what command do I use to find out which hardware/driver combination is providing my graphics capability?14:37
Wiz_KeeDI am very well aware of that14:37
SuperLagyeehi: lspci | grep -i vga will show you your video card, lsmod will show you want kernel modules are loaded.14:38
SuperLags/want/what14:38
yeehithanks, SuperLag. What will show up with intel integrated graphics?14:38
siberiannerdyeehi, you can find your video adapters via `lspci` command and knowing it you can find out which modules may be responsible for i, complete list of them you can get via `lsmod`14:39
BluesKajyeehi, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'14:39
geniiyeehi: In a terminal: sudo lshw -C display    ... the line which reads configuration:     shows the driver in use14:39
* genii sips and ponders how many ways to skin a cat14:39
yeehithanks, BluesKaj - let me try that. I know there is an nvidia card. it looks like it might be nouveau drivers... video                  19390  1 nouveau14:40
sorakunhello14:40
siberiannerdyeehi, is it a laptop?14:41
clark__hi14:41
yeehidesktop, siberiannerd14:41
siberiannerdgood14:41
BluesKajyeehi, nouveau is default for nvidia cards on new installs , mostly.14:41
Wiz_KeeDis it safe to sudo apt-get install ia32-libs?14:41
Wiz_KeeDit installs ALL 32bit libraries?14:41
yeehiThe command did not provide any output, BluesKaj:  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'14:41
ky7enis there any 3D terminal for 3D TV on ubuntu ? :>14:42
JoshDreamlandAnyone think they can help me with my printer? It seems to not be receiving any instructions.14:42
siberiannerdplease answe him someone im begging14:42
BluesKajyeehi, i get this Kernel driver in use: nvidia14:42
Wiz_KeeDAny input?14:42
BluesKajyeehi, try dkms status , or glxinfo | grep OpenGL14:43
clark__hi, can somebody help me to configure password complexity on ubuntu 12. i am facing problem mentioned here http://askubuntu.com/questions/298886/gnome-does-not-enforce-password-complexity-in-12-0414:43
Wiz_KeeDno one?14:44
yeehiBluesKaj - glx info tells me opengl vendor vmware open gl renderer string: Gallium on llvmpipe open gl version string 2.1 mesa14:44
BluesKajyeehi, ok look in the software center for additional or recommended drivers14:46
jcbjoewhats the comand that list uuids i know lsblk isn't it14:46
yeehii will try that BluesKaj - how about this package: NVidia binary X.Org driver ('current' driver)14:47
BluesKajsudo blkid14:47
geniiWiz_KeeD: You probably want instead to make sure multiarch-support is installed. Then the system just autodecides what packages are needed ( 64 or 32 bit).14:47
ewethi, does the gnome activities thing honor mimeapps.list? because if I open an opden document template in nautilus it's starting LibreOffice but if I open it in the activities (search) it opens up in "Documents"14:47
Wiz_KeeDit is installed genii !14:47
eweti'm using the ubuntu-gnome spin14:47
nownothow do I view last login time / date for a specific user that might span back a few months14:47
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BluesKajyeehi, usually the nvidia-current driver is the correct one for most cards, unless you wnat bleednig edge14:48
yeehigreat BluesKaj! Let me try it!14:48
SuperLaggenii: oooohhh... I like that "lshw" command. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6097322/14:48
siberiannerdi got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/14:48
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: yes, that will install *all* 32-bit libs14:49
SuperLaggenii: I thought the library detection didn't come until 13.10? or am I mistaken?14:49
geniiWiz_KeeD: If you need to specify if a package to be installed is 32 or 64 bit, append either :i386   or :amd6414:50
geniiSuperLag: It's been around a while now14:50
Wiz_KeeDughh14:50
SuperLaggenii: apt-get install kitchen_sink:amd64 :)14:50
clark__@nownot - try - lastlog14:51
geniimultiarch has been around since about 12.0414:52
clark__can somebody confirm that gnome does not enforce password complexity in 12-04  ????14:54
nownotclark__: lastlog -t 30 only shows current login, not the past months. Am I using this command wrong?14:56
Wiz_KeeDSuperLag, dropbox downloag 57% :)))14:56
siberiannerdi got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/14:57
clark__@nownot@ perhaps you can grab from /var/log/auth.log14:58
clark__@notnow will show current. you are right14:58
emrHello, how i can display 2, 3 and 4 columns from dpkg -l14:58
LinuxHey just woundering is there a Web Site or any thing that will Teach u how to Debug stuff that is not workin properly or any thing14:59
ferriereshi ! seems that my computer is overloaded by process that shouldn't occupy it that much (xorg, ircII, htop, polkitd, dbus-daemon...)15:00
clark__@nownot you can grep required log from there15:00
ferrieresSomething like 40% of each core15:00
nownotclark__: yes, trying to find the correct term to grep on15:00
ferrieresan idea anybody ?15:00
ferrieresok, i have to add the laptop is not very young (ProBook 4710) but a week ago, it was running normal (with compiz and gnome) but... things have run badly and *progressively*15:02
ferrieresassistance needed, pleaaase !15:03
clark__can somebody confirm that gnome does not enforce password complexity in 12-04 ????15:03
ferrieresAnybody in here to help ?15:04
decipherstaticIs anyone else have issues with mouse lag/click bugs with the latest ubuntu updates?  I'm running 12.0415:05
rramalhohi there15:05
rramalhois anyone here that has experience with ubuntu server on a VMWare ESX ?15:06
nownotclark__: is there another command you can think of grep Accepted /var/log/auth.log only shows current login and I know within the past month there have been more15:06
rramalhoI've built a VM from a 12.04 ISO on a ESX 5.1 update 115:07
rramalhoI can connect everywhere with the guest15:07
rramalhobut I can't ping the guest from the network15:07
clark__@notnow auth.log is log file. it must contain all authentication activities since you installed your OS. If not deleted/modified by root15:08
clark__@notnow which OS are you using15:08
BrixSathello when i install the recomended driver via aditional drivers i get "WARNING: /sys/module/cedarview_gfx/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind cedarview_gfx driver"15:10
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Wiz_KeeDHow do you properly install Oracle Java 6 or newer? :))15:12
Wiz_KeeDOpenJDK i think15:12
BrixSatWiz_KeeD:  apt-get install java ?15:13
Wiz_KeeDI'm using the software center just to be safe15:13
glamberteh15:13
Wiz_KeeDOpenJDK Java 7 Runtime15:13
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Wiz_KeeDthat should be ok I gues15:13
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Johnny_Linuxits the newest15:14
glambertwhat's wrong with apt-get?15:14
Ari-YangWiz_KeeD, apt-get via terminal is safe :b15:14
Wiz_KeeDyup15:14
Wiz_KeeDnothing wrong with it15:14
Ari-Yanghe probably prefers GUI is all15:14
Wiz_KeeDI might misinterpret some names and get something else but no that much of a deal15:14
Wiz_KeeDnah, i love console15:14
Ari-Yangah, fair enough15:14
Wiz_KeeDjust a bit scared since the accident :(15:14
Wiz_KeeDGreat...dropbox download froze at 57%...now what?15:15
jhutchinsWiz_KeeD: Accident?15:16
BrixSathello when i install the recomended driver via aditional drivers i get "WARNING: /sys/module/cedarview_gfx/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind cedarview_gfx driver"15:16
Wiz_KeeDI do not know what I am supposed to do in these kind of sitiuations...15:16
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Wiz_KeeDI downloaded the 64bit .deb from dropbox, started it, it started downloading, now it froze at 57% for 15 minutes15:17
Wiz_KeeDIf i cancel then what, I have to purge what has been downloaded/installed so far, i try to redo the install? i try to install it via console? will it conflict now because of this....15:17
Wiz_KeeDetc etc15:17
AndChat|517376How can i fully install dropbox for ubuntu fat clients?15:18
unknown101How can i hide my self in the network?15:18
Johnny_LinuxWiz_KeeD  what did you do to deserve such things.15:18
unknown101how can i have my self on network?15:18
Wiz_KeeDJohnny_Linux, I have no clue, it's just the tip15:19
unknown101how can i hide my self on network***15:19
jhutchins!dropbox15:19
Wiz_KeeDReally, what is one supposed to do in this sitiuation?15:19
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: how are you downloading it ?15:19
abner_..15:20
Wiz_KeeDikonia, downloaded the ubuntu 64bit.deb from dropbox.com and launching the deb with double-click in gui revelaed this download15:20
Wiz_KeeDsomeone from here suggested I do so, everyone agreed15:20
Wiz_KeeDnow it's frozen at 57% for more than 20 minutes15:20
jhutchinsunknown101: You can't, of you're online the network has to know, which means you can be found.15:20
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: so it's basically pulling in dependencies ?15:20
Wiz_KeeDI have no idea what it's doing, it froze at 57% for a very long time15:20
unknown101bs...There always a way to hide your self from the network15:20
Wiz_KeeDIt's just the gui with a silly orange bar15:20
Wiz_KeeDno actual verbose information15:20
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: ok, so close that and try again15:20
jhutchinsunknown101: Nope.  If you're on, someone can find you.  The only way not to be found is not to be on.15:21
Wiz_KeeDikonia, no negative consequences>15:21
Wiz_KeeD?15:21
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: no, nothing that can't be undone if there is any sort of problem15:21
Wiz_KeeDof canceling such a proccess midway15:21
Wiz_KeeDpfuu....15:21
Wiz_KeeDA better way to install dropbox than? through cmd? as they suggest on the site?15:22
Wiz_KeeDat least I have some information there?15:22
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: just re-try it, see if it hangs at the same point, then move forward from there15:22
Wiz_KeeDor install from repositories the dropbox-nautilius integration that downloads the packages15:22
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: stop rushing and changing15:22
siberiannerdi got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/15:22
Wiz_KeeDbrb, i'll restart15:23
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Wiz_KeeDikonia15:26
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: you didn't need to reboot - just kill that process15:26
mhdI have a machine running 12.04 LTS that doesn't have working sound. Most of the usual hacks such as killing Pulse doesn't work15:26
Wiz_KeeDikonia, now about that I installed adobe air and wanted to restart a whole other things15:26
ikoniaadobe air....come on15:26
mhdI tried the Sound Troubleshooting but that didn't fix it15:26
Wiz_KeeDAt this stage I have dropbox on the left in the menu, and when i click it it says "In order to use Dropbox, you must download the proprietary daemon"15:26
Wiz_KeeDikonia, i need it badly :(15:26
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: why are you pulling in this unsupported junk15:27
Wiz_KeeDI cannot get paid without it XD15:27
unknown101I have a keyboard that is not working with ubntu 13:1015:27
Daniel1_Hello, I have some questions about Ubuntu programming and Bug fixes. can I ask here or I have to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic ?15:27
Wiz_KeeDI know it's crap, i've passed it and it's working (phew)!!15:27
unknown101any way to make it work?15:27
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: read the top line of the adobe air website15:27
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: beginning June 14 2011, Adobe AIR is no longer supported for desktop Linux distributions.15:27
Wiz_KeeDI know ikonia i know15:27
Wiz_KeeDI know buddy, nothing I can do :(15:27
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: of course there is - don't use it15:27
Wiz_KeeDIs it too late to remove that and install the dropbox from the software center?15:27
Wiz_KeeDhaha :))15:28
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: either a.) use something else b.) run it on a supported platform15:28
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: I'm not laughing, - I warned you about installing junk from bad software sources15:28
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: installing something that's been dead since 2011 = unwise15:28
Wiz_KeeDIt's unsupported that doesn't mean it's junk or malware15:28
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: no-one said malware15:28
Wiz_KeeDI know, it's the only ting i NEED15:28
Wiz_KeeDnow moving on to dropbox15:29
ikonianah, you're making a mess, you can make a mess on your own15:29
Wiz_KeeDright, whatever15:29
siberiannerdi got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/15:29
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John_RobinsonHow to start programming for Ubuntu?15:32
ikoniaJohn_Robinson: learning a valid language and fixing bugs is a good introduction15:32
linux_helper2881when u install a program from Playonlinux where is it Located?15:32
ikonialinux_helper2881: in your wine directory normally15:33
kostkonJohn_Robinson: developer.ubuntu.com15:33
linux_helper2881ok15:33
John_Robinsonikonia: what programming languages are needed?15:34
ikoniaJohn_Robinson: I think you need to do some research if you're asking that question15:34
xactohi, I need help with l2tp vpn setup.. Tried couple of things, searched my friend google.. can't connect.  Installed that "L2TP IPsec VPN Manager 1.0.9" package with applet from Werner Jaeger, ÙPretty sure it was configured correctly... still can'T connect. Maybe something special i forgot? Someone can help on this? thx15:34
dagon_Hey guys! I'm having a little bit of trouble with some vnc. I'm trying to connect with vnc to my desktop running ubuntu 13.04 through my macbook pro. I've tried both the built in server connector and teamviewer but nothing works. There's nothing wrong with the vncserver. Ideas?15:35
ikoniadagon_: firewall ?15:35
John_Robinsonikonia: what i a, asking is, do I need to join Launchpad now? How to learn about bug fixing?15:35
xactodagon_ maybe your firewall on router?15:35
ikoniaxacto: who said anything about him using a router15:36
ikoniaJohn_Robinson: if you want to comment/submit a fix, yes15:36
ikoniaJohn_Robinson: again - basic research will cover this15:36
John_Robinsonikonia: any tutorial link please?15:36
ikoniaJohn_Robinson: tutorial on what ?15:36
xactosuggestion..  like two question in one.. ;)15:37
Wiz_KeeDSuperLag, using the software center (or downloading with apt-get nautilius dropbox integration is much better and faster)15:37
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: where on earth are you, that your download is so slow??15:37
John_Robinsonikonia: I am new to programming in Linux, n00b so far.15:37
ikoniaJohn_Robinson: what languages do you write in ?15:37
Wiz_KeeDIt's not that, it's super fast, especially internally but the proccess with the deb from the site was PAINFULLy slow for some reason15:37
Wiz_KeeDthis one installed in like under a minute or so...15:38
John_Robinsonikonia: C, C++, Python etc15:38
ikoniaJohn_Robinson: great, so that should be really useful to the ubuntu project.15:38
ikoniaJohn_Robinson: find some bugs on launchpad and dive in15:38
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: that's very odd15:39
linux_helper2881Ok... When u Install something like Steam from Software Center where is it Located?15:39
Wiz_KeeDyeah odd indeed SuperLag15:39
John_Robinsonikonia: Ok, Thanks.15:39
ikonialinux_helper2881: the binaries are normally in /usr/bin - but it will depend what part you want to access15:39
Wiz_KeeDSince it said that it used the dropbox site to get the main package15:39
dagon_ikonia, xacto; Nope. At best I've gotten a grey window. Can't really figure out what the heck is wrong..15:39
snoophi all15:39
linux_helper2881all of it mainly workin on fixing problems15:39
siberiannerdi got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/15:40
ikonialinux_helper2881: why don't you say the problem you'e got and people will try to help15:40
ikoniadagon_: ok, so you think you're getting an initial connection ?15:40
dagon_ikonia: yup. It connects but all I see is a grey windows with a mouse pointer15:40
dagon_window*15:41
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ikoniadagon_: so it renders the mouse but nothing else, that's odd15:41
dagon_ikonia: it sure is15:41
ikoniadagon_: out of interest, can you connect to the vnc server locally ?15:41
dagon_yup15:41
dagon_as far as I know15:41
ikoniadagon_: and it draws the display properly ?15:41
ikoniadagon_: can you test it ?15:41
dagon_ikonia: gonna try it now15:42
snoopwie kann ich channel liste laden ??15:42
ikonia!de | snoop15:42
ubottusnoop: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!15:42
linux_helper2881well Steam windows games wont work it says <Game> is not compatible for this platform. but for Play On Linux it will work so ima doin some programing to make it work for Wine also for the people that has problems in the furute15:42
snoophi15:42
linux_helper2881wont work for Wine a lone15:42
ikonialinux_helper2881: you're doing some "programming" to make it work /?15:42
linux_helper2881well ya kinda thats what i do best and dont ask how i make it work but ima getting close15:43
ikonialinux_helper2881: what are you changing ?15:43
ikonialinux_helper2881: the guys who maintain wine are in the channel #winehq15:43
TsarObombaI fullly understand how sudo works etc, but lets just skip the whole speech on sudo security and stuff.  Can I disable allowing sudo -i somehow?15:43
linux_helper2881well Login screen is not workin atm15:43
ikonialinux_helper2881: so i fyou want to make changes to wine upstream, those are the guys to talk to15:44
TsarObombaI have root login setup, I disallow root from ssh, and I want to disable sudo -i for extra measures15:44
siberiannerdit's funny how i never get support for hours, days and even weeks coming here lol15:44
linux_helper2881ok but wineHQ is dead as heck they do replay to ya at all15:44
TsarObombasiberiannerd: happens all the time to me15:44
ikoniaTsarObomba: doesn't -i only work if it's ALL:ALL15:44
siberiannerdTsarObomba, you're not alone, mate15:45
TsarObombaikonia: not sure. But i still want it to be able to run any other command but that15:45
Darkstar1Anyone know how I can find out which version of swftools I have on my system?15:45
TsarObombasiberiannerd: it seems like if its a semi complex question, it gets pushed to the back of the line unless someone with real knowledge is around15:45
ikoniaTsarObomba: from a security point of view, if you still have ALL:ALL disabling -i won't fix anything as you could still su - iwth sudo15:45
TsarObombalike ikonia :)15:45
TsarObombaikonia: eh true15:46
ikoniaTsarObomba: I don't beleve you can disable the -i flag with the ALL:ALL rule in place.15:46
TsarObombanevermind then15:46
ikoniaTsarObomba: (and to be honest, I don't see why you would if you leave ALL:ALL in place)15:46
siberiannerdnothing fixed here for me but "how to configure the panel in unity i never used?"15:46
Desez2tpunkAnyone able to refer me to installing nvidia video card drivers? Been awhile since I've used Ubuntu, not finding any info on google.15:46
ikoniasiberiannerd: stop moaning please15:46
siberiannerdikonia, but i'm close to start crying15:46
ikoniaTsarObomba: I'll have a prod though as I'm interested now as in what allows/blocks the -i15:46
TsarObombaikonia: because im not completely security concious and more lazy than anything, and im not worried about local security, i allow passwordless sudo (i dont want the speech, so dont)15:46
dagon_ikonia: hmm, doesn't work now. I gotta go atm but I'll be back later.15:47
TsarObombaikonia: i would think you could do allow all and have a blacklist somehow15:47
ikoniaTsarObomba: I wouldn't waste time disabling -i (or trying to) if you allow passwordless sudo and ALL:ALL15:47
TsarObombaikonia: but, better yet, im gonna leave passwordless sudo, block root logins, and only allow security key logins from ssh15:47
TsarObombaikonia: it was only gonna be for remote15:47
TsarObombaif someone hacked the ssh login15:48
ikoniaTsarObomba: remote/local doesn't make a difference15:48
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: So you're all up and Dropbox'd now?15:48
jhutchinssiberiannerd: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html15:48
TsarObombabut im changing it to security keys only for ssh15:48
Desez2tpunkAnyone at all...?15:48
TsarObombaikonia: uh, sure it does15:48
ikoniaTsarObomba: disabling (trying to) -i is a waste of effort for passwordless ALL:ALL staying in place.15:48
TsarObombaIm not worried aboyut anyone in my hoiuse doing something nefarious15:48
Wiz_KeeDSuperLag, seems so, it's syncing and creating the neccesairy folders, the icon on top works good, no errors so far so aparently it's good!15:48
ikoniaTsarObomba: you could look at changing the ALL:ALL:ALL so that differnet hosts have different rules15:48
TsarObombaBecause they arent smart enough to even work linux15:48
SuperLagWiz_KeeD: excellent15:48
ikoniaif you wanted to seperate local/no-local rules15:48
TsarObombaeh, thats true15:48
Wiz_KeeDThe download from dropbox site and .deb run was slower and more painful aparently15:49
TsarObombaki think i will stick with ssh keys only15:49
ikoniaeg: box1:all:all box2:all:profile15:49
ikoniaTsarObomba: ssh keys are nothing to do with sudo15:49
TsarObombano crap15:49
TsarObombaBut they stop people from logging in if they get my password15:49
jhutchinsWiz_KeeD: Consider what that might mean about retrieving your files from dropbox if downloading the client is that hard.15:49
TsarObombawhich protects sudo15:49
ikoniaTsarObomba: you can make it as open/profile drive/locked down as you want15:49
TsarObombassh is the entry point15:49
TsarObombaif i close the entry point, sudoi is useless15:50
TsarObombaperiod15:50
TsarObombaLets not turn this into a pointless debate, please.15:50
ikoniaTsarObomba: no-one is debating anything, I just answered your sudo question15:50
TsarObombaIf I only allow ssh keys, and dont allow password logins, im good15:50
TsarObombaikonia: and ive been saying fdor 5 minutes now i will just skip sudo aand use sshkeys only15:50
ikoniaTsarObomba: it's as secure as you think it is, and your box to open/close as you see fit15:50
ikoniaTsarObomba: what do you mean "skip sudo" ??15:51
mustmodifyI am copying files from a windows 8 machine to an ubuntu machine, both core i7 with SSDs, connected via a gigabit switch. Typically communication between them is fast. Today I'm seeing a copy speed of 115 KB/S instead of the typical > 1MB/s ... any thoughts how I can diagnose the issue?15:51
TsarObombacrimeney sakes15:51
TsarObombaikonia: is engrish not your first language?15:51
mustmodifyload average on the ubuntu machine is 0.01 0.04 0.05 with 43% drive usage15:52
mustmodifyand spare memory15:52
Desez2tpunk......Anyone at all able to help???15:53
Wiz_KeeDAnyone here good with rsa keys and all that?15:54
EdwardSnowdenyes, I'm the rsa key professor15:55
mustmodifyEdwardSnowden: rofl nice15:55
EdwardSnowdenyea15:56
mwallacesdhi there, I have an incident with 12.04. I created a new user, copy all the old user data with cp -R and than change the permitions with chown -R. The problem is that the new user  CANNOT open Log File Viewer. What I have to do in order to fix it?15:56
siberiannerdi got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/15:56
Desez2tpunkAnyone able to refer me to installing nvidia video card drivers? Been awhile since I've used Ubuntu, not finding any info on google.15:56
siberiannerdDesez2tpunk, nvidia-current package15:57
Desez2tpunkThank you.15:57
siberiannerdDesez2tpunk, wait, is it a laptop?15:57
Desez2tpunkDesktop siberiannerd15:57
siberiannerdDesez2tpunk, alright then15:58
Desez2tpunk650Ti to be exact.15:58
fabiano_hello!!15:58
siberiannerdwas asking in case there is infamous optimus thing15:58
siberiannerdhey, fabiano_15:59
quick-I have 13.04 and i have forgotten my password . How can i reset it ?15:59
kostkon!password15:59
siberiannerdquick-, single mode http://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub15:59
ubottuForgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords15:59
Wiz_KeeDWhat is the difference and what should catch my eye when installing multiple libraries and i'm presented with 1. Packages will be installed, 2.Suggested packages 3.following NEW packages will be installed?16:00
mwallacesdhi there, I have an incident with 12.04. I created a new user, copy all the old user data with cp -R and than change the permitions with chown -R. The problem is that the new user  CANNOT open Log File Viewer. What I have to do in order to fix it?16:00
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fabiano_can u know how use quite ubuntu?16:01
siberiannerdWiz_KeeD, basically if you're not familiar what are those packages do exactly in terms of their relationships, just press Y16:01
Wiz_KeeDI am reluctant to press Y if i don't know something16:01
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EdwardSnowdenmwallacesd, what Log File Viewer?16:02
siberiannerdWiz_KeeD, the only option is to read each package's description  and understand what is written in there16:02
Wiz_KeeDI understand siberiannerd16:03
siberiannerdWiz_KeeD, keep an eye on those packages that will be installed and correlation between the desired effect hah, you may catch the thing that is missing16:04
z0rancan anyone tell me, am i going to have any problem if i use zsh as root shell...im using ubuntu 12.0416:04
Wiz_KeeDsiberiannerd, last time i removed some libsql thing, didn't pay attention to what it removed16:05
siberiannerdz0ran, that shouldn't be a problem (no experience of this here)16:05
Wiz_KeeDAnd by the time i saw it removing python firefox and gnome it was too late :))16:05
z0ranthanks siberiannerd16:05
siberiannerdWiz_KeeD, suggested packages are more often just recommendations on expanding functional and such16:05
EdwardSnowdenz0ran, zsh is a little different, you'll get errors if you run bash scripts16:06
Wiz_KeeDOne question, if i made a key with ssh keygen rsa thing and added it to multiple servers16:06
Wiz_KeeDNow that i've formatted it's changed, but i have the backup of the home directory where the old ones are saved16:06
Wiz_KeeDhow can i "translpant" them?16:06
z0ranEdwardSnowden, thanks for that info, yes, i use a lot bash scripts...so i think i'll reconsider and stay with bash16:07
siberiannerdz0ran, why do you need zsh at all?16:07
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, just copy the key to the .ssh directory16:07
z0ranjust to try siberiannerd...but no, i think i'll stay with bash16:08
Wiz_KeeDI did that EdwardSnowden , didn't sem to work16:08
Wiz_KeeDI copied the entire contents even the known_hosts yet it doesn't match16:08
Wiz_KeeD:)16:08
mwallacesdHi there, I lost my connection.16:08
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, did you set the permissions? It won't work if the file is has +w16:08
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, if the key is writable that is16:09
Wiz_KeeDpfff EdwardSnowden you may very well be right!!16:09
siberiannerdz0ran, hah trying stuff that may have a system-wide effect is not a good thing man16:09
antar_hi people is there any ide for cpp that support gui programming ? on Ubuntu16:09
anewhow can i tail -F into a blank file instead of output on console ?16:09
antar_anew, use >>16:10
EdwardSnowdenantar_, Eclipse?16:10
mwallacesdA new user was created on the system, old user's files was copy with cp -R then the permitions was changed with chown -r. (user group was modified too) The problem is that I cannot open Log Files viewer Aplication with this new user.16:10
mwallacesdWhat I need to do in order to fix it????16:10
antar_EdwardSnowden, is eclipse support gui16:10
siberiannerdi got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/16:11
anewholy shit edwardsnowden is in this channel16:11
anewdoes the media know about this ?16:11
EdwardSnowdenantar_, you're trying to write gui apps or you want an ide that has a gui?16:11
antar_EdwardSnowden, i got a lot of errors when using graphic.h , gtk.h and qt16:11
antar_EdwardSnowden, Ide that has a gui16:12
Wiz_KeeDI gave the exact same permissions as the ones generated from ssh keygen EdwardSnowden16:12
Wiz_KeeDAgent admitted failure to sign using the key.16:12
Wiz_KeeDsomething wrong...16:12
EdwardSnowdenantar_, Then you want Eclipse. Download the C++ version16:12
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antar_oh i downloaded the java version and added the c/c++ cdt16:13
EdwardSnowdenanew, Yes it's me the hero of the free peoples of the United States of America16:13
mustmodifyI am copying files from a windows 8 machine to an ubuntu machine, both core i7 with SSDs, connected via a gigabit switch. Typically communication between them is fast. Today I'm seeing a copy speed of 115 KB/S instead of the typical > 1MB/s ... any thoughts how I can diagnose the issue? load average on the ubuntu machine is 0.01 0.04 0.05 with 43% drive usage and some16:13
anewholy shit16:13
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, What errors do you get?16:13
anewgo edward go16:13
anewwe're rooting for u16:13
anewcant wait to tell my wife i talked to snowden in chat16:14
Wiz_KeeDthe one i just pasted EdwardSnowden16:14
Wiz_KeeD"Agent admitted failure to sign using the key."16:14
EdwardSnowdenanew, Thanks, I'll do my best to help in recapturing the Internet from the evil organizations.16:15
xcalibur1978hi! I have an error starting netflix in Ubuntu (whine / silverlight / Gnome): Compositing is not available, please enable compositing support and relaunch Netflix Desktop16:16
xcalibur1978can anyone tell me what to do about it?16:16
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, man ssh-add16:16
mwallacesdWELL16:17
mwallacesdWELL16:17
mwallacesdA new user was created on the system, old user's files was copy with cp -R then the permitions was changed with chown -r. (user group was modified too) The problem is that I cannot open Log Files viewer Aplication with this new user.16:17
Wiz_KeeDsuddenly it started working EdwardSnowden :\16:17
mwallacesdI could open with sudo sudo gnome-system-log16:17
mwallacesdbut I want to open with my new user.16:17
mwallacesdAny suggestion?16:17
xcalibur1978mwallecesd: the command "chmod 755" would make it executable for the user who created it and readable for both the group and guest users16:18
Picimwallacesd: add the user to the adm group to allow them to read items in /var/log/16:19
EdwardSnowdenxcalibur1978, You have to use compiz to enable compositing16:19
mwallacesdTHANKS a lot Pici16:19
xcalibur1978Thanx Edward Snowden16:19
mwallacesdthe group name is just adm, is it correctly?16:19
Darkstar1anyone know how to tell which version of swftools is in the repository?16:19
mwallacesdusermod: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later16:20
Picimwallacesd: yes. if you look, you should see that adm has group ownership of most of the files in /var/log16:20
mhdWhat do I do when https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure has failed to give me sound?16:21
EdwardSnowdenDarkstar1, apt-cache show swftools16:22
OerHeks!info swftools | Darkstar116:22
ubottuDarkstar1: swftools (source: swftools): Collection of utilities for SWF file manipulation/creation. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.2+ds1-3 (raring), package size 2256 kB, installed size 5978 kB16:22
Darkstar1thanks guys16:22
Wiz_KeeDEdwardSnowden, all well with that16:23
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, nice16:23
Wiz_KeeDDo you think you could help me on my last and biggest endevaour of installing the wireless driver? :(16:23
Wiz_KeeDSince it didn't work by default16:23
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, check the kernel module lspci -k16:24
banisterfiendhi16:24
banisterfiendi have a question not directly related to ubuntu, but i can't think where else to ask, can i try you guys here?16:24
siberiannerdi got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097714/16:25
Wiz_KeeDEdwardSnowden, I got a huge list...now what?16:25
banisterfiendanyway, here it is: http://superuser.com/questions/644446/cant-login-to-youtube-since-changing-account-name16:25
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, Paste it http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16:25
mwallacesdPici, my new user cannot see any group just his own group (i dont know the other group names or how to see it) but I run the command usermod -a -G adm mwallacesd16:26
mwallacesd cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later.16:26
mwallacesdWhat is wrong?16:26
Wiz_KeeDcould you please teach me how to interpret this and find the proper driver for it EdwardSnowden ? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097720/16:26
CatKillermwallacesd: You need to run this as "sudo"?16:27
Picimwallacesd: you need to use sudo to change your own16:27
mwallacesdyes it is.16:27
CatKillerPici: You don't need sudo to change your own you mean?16:28
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, It says you have a Dell wireless card using the ssb driver16:28
Wiz_KeeDssb driver, whatever that means16:28
PiciCatKiller: you need sudo to change even your own groups16:28
CatKillerahhh16:28
CatKillerwell then anyways running this as sudo would work16:28
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, Do you see drivers for it in Additional Drivers?16:29
Wiz_KeeDCatKiller, I didn't manage to do the lvm thing since it was a bit complicated, I see it's the only options16:29
arcskyist possible to upgrade to latest ubuntu gtom Ubuntu 11.0416:29
Wiz_KeeDEdwardSnowden, I did, it said something about publisher  not allowing access to source blabla, I clicked allow and it errored out during the install16:29
Wiz_KeeD:(16:29
Mondaywhich has the fastest boot time Ubuntu, Xubuntu or Lubuntu?16:29
CatKillerWiz_KeeD: Well then you also have FS level snapshots16:29
CatKillerwhich are probably better anyways16:29
CatKillerlike zfs for instance16:29
Wiz_KeeDshould I try again, or revert what it did?16:29
Wiz_KeeDCatKiller, FS level snapshots?16:29
CatKillerbetter in your case16:29
CatKillerFilesystem level16:29
mwallacesdPici you right it wasn't sudo.. now I run sudo usermod -a -G adm mwallacesd16:30
siberiannerdWiz_KeeD, some propietary drivers may require binary firmware16:30
mwallacesdbut takes no effect16:30
mwallacesdI need to restart16:30
mwallacesd?16:30
CatKillerInstead of snapshotting the entire "volume" you snapshot "files"16:30
EdwardSnowdenbanisterfiend, Log in with your gmail account16:30
CatKillerthe entire filesystem in a way16:30
Picimwallacesd: you need a new login shell to see the changes, a new terminal window generally doesn't provide that.16:30
banisterfiendEdwardSnowden i did16:30
mwallacesdOk16:30
banisterfiendEdwardSnowden i get that error16:30
mwallacesdI will test16:30
mwallacesdThanks a lot.16:30
Wiz_KeeDCatbuntu, filesystem, isn't it more important to save the libraries and all that?16:31
Wiz_KeeDsiberiannerd, that's chinese to me, idk what to do16:31
Wiz_KeeDI would love to read and learn and educate myself16:31
Wiz_KeeDEdwardSnowden, any suggestions?16:32
banisterfiendEdwardSnowden this is my problem, but the solution there does not help: http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/youtube/Vkd5er1ojN416:32
siberiannerdWiz_KeeD, most often this being fixed via tricky quest which starts from google, sometimes such stock drivers just work not good, that can appear to be painful subject16:32
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, Can you uninstall the drivers?16:33
Wiz_KeeDEdwardSnowden, I do not know and i'm scared to make any rash moves since i've JUST placed my system back and I can start working, I already lost 2 days of work because of this crap :(16:33
moksudxpI need help, there is no one ?16:33
Kyan`'sera16:33
Kyan`HI16:34
ZerpexWiz_KeeD: NSA has a copy16:34
Wiz_KeeDright16:34
Wiz_KeeDmighty helpful16:34
moksudxpI need help to install gui in ubuntu server16:34
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, In the Additional Drivers, does it have the driver enabled?16:34
EdwardSnowdenmoksudxp, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop16:35
Wiz_KeeDEdwardSnowden, it says This driver is not activated16:35
Wiz_KeeDAnd when i press activate it errors out16:35
Wiz_KeeDAtleast it did first time, never tried the second time16:35
lucenutHey guys. I have been reading/watching videos about ubuntu on a nexus 10. Anyone running it?16:35
Wiz_KeeD This package contains Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driver for use with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4313-, BCM4321-, BCM4322-, BCM43224-, and BCM43225-, BCM43227- and BCM43228-based hardware.16:35
moksudxpimpossible to find package ubuntu-desktop16:36
lucenutI found a 16G locally on Craigslist for $200 and ready to dive in.16:36
moksudxpimpossible to find package ubuntu-desktop16:36
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, I found a possible solution here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/21250416:36
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, Basically you do this sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter16:37
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, And sudo modprobe b4316:37
EdwardSnowdenmoksudxp, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop16:37
Wiz_KeeDb43-fwcutter - Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware16:38
lucenutAny tablet interest/experience here? :-)16:38
moksudxpImpossible to download some index files...16:38
Wiz_KeeDdid a -s seems ok16:38
Wiz_KeeDlaunching the proper one16:38
PWD__I started the distribution business, is there any software i can use on Linux for stock & Sales management ?16:39
moksudxpImpossible to recover http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-backports/universe/i18n/Translation-en16:39
siberiannerdWiz_KeeD, if this won't end good talking of experience using broadcom wireless and you will decide to get rid of it at any cost for some reason, you may find useful to read about atheros chipset in spectrum of details connected to linux support and driver development process16:39
Wiz_KeeDchinese + japanese there siberiannerd :))16:40
Wiz_KeeDEdwardSnowden, nothing came up after the install16:40
Wiz_KeeDshould I try to run it?16:40
jase21Hi is there any way to know user account creation time?16:40
Wiz_KeeDfrom the console16:40
Wiz_KeeD?16:40
EdwardSnowdenPWD__, Libreoffice Calc16:40
siberiannerdWiz_KeeD, one ignorant semi-stupid russian actually but ok16:40
Wiz_KeeDhahaha, lol16:41
Wiz_KeeDatheros chipset ?16:41
moksudxp@EdwardSnowden after I write the command, ubuntu shows me a lot of errors like "Impossible to recover http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-backports/universe/i18n/Translation-en"16:41
siberiannerdyep16:41
Wiz_KeeDMeaning when I buy a new laptop I should check the hardware to see how well it connects with linux?16:41
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, Try sudo modprobe b4316:41
otaklucenut: #ubuntu-touch16:41
siberiannerdWiz_KeeD, there were days when this was the only way to get something working with linux16:41
Wiz_KeeDEdwardSnowden, nothing happened16:42
siberiannerdyou always buy hardware to install software on it for some certain purposes16:42
Wiz_KeeDsiberiannerd, what should I look for when shopping for my next laptop then?16:42
siberiannerdso it may appear to be a good idea to check the specs from this side16:42
Wiz_KeeDso it's *nix ubuntu frindly?16:42
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, You have to reboot and see if network manager see your access points16:42
siberiannerdyou may come here with it's specs16:42
siberiannerdor just model16:42
Wiz_KeeDEdwardSnowden, okay brb!16:42
siberiannerdsome assumptions can be made according to it16:42
moksudxp@EdwardSnowden after I write the command, ubuntu shows me a lot of errors like "Impossible to recover http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-backports/universe/i18n/Translation-en"16:43
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EdwardSnowdenmoksudxp, sudo apt-get clean16:44
Wiz_KeeDActually I have to wait a bit until I finish a download16:44
nishttal2weird issue.. if I turn off my screen and turn it back on.. there is no signal.. and screen goes to power save mode... I then have to hard reboot to get the screen back... what is wrong?16:44
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, Ok, if it doesn't work you have to remove the b43-fwcutter package and reinstall it16:45
Wiz_KeeDEdwardSnowden, that's pretty...strange16:45
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, There's also the open source firmware firmware-b43-lpphy-installer16:45
Kyan`EdwardSnowden, you've got a strong nick.16:46
Wiz_KeeDI saw the guy on launchpad telling the other one to remove and purge all the other drivers16:46
nyuszika7hhi, how do I enable font smoothing in i3wm?16:46
moksudxpafter I wrote this command : "sudo apt-get clean" Ubuntu dont shows me nothing....16:46
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, You can try the open source one instead if it doesn't work16:46
Wiz_KeeDmade exactly for this card?16:46
EdwardSnowdenKyan`, Yes, I've got nothing to hide16:46
Kyan`EdwardSnowden, LOL16:47
siberiannerdthis channel being read by nsa now :<16:48
lucenutSiberian, I have read a bunch about ubuntu-touch on nexus 10. Looks solid.16:48
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, Also check if b43 is blacklisted16:48
siberiannerdawesome16:48
Wiz_KeeDhow do i do that EdwardSnowden ?16:48
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, Check f this exists /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bcm43.conf16:48
Wiz_KeeDwhat does blacklisted mean?16:49
xanguasiberiannerd: public logs can be read by anyone16:49
siberiannerdxangua, i know =)16:49
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, Blacklisting prevents modules from being loaded16:49
Wiz_KeeDEdwardSnowden, http://pastebin.com/EyirfJYx16:49
Wiz_KeeDwhy would they do that....16:49
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, Delete the line that says blacklist b43 and b43legacy16:50
EdwardSnowdenThen remove the driver16:50
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, sudo apt-get purge b43-fwcutter16:50
siberiannerdWiz_KeeD, that would be wrong if there were 2 working drivers which attempt to provide interface to the device, right?16:50
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, And reinstall sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter16:50
EdwardSnowdenbrb16:51
Wiz_KeeDWhat is the difference between apt-get purge b43-fwcutter and apt-get remove package --purge16:51
siberiannerdWiz_KeeD, --purge remove for aptitude purge for apt16:53
CatbuntuDoes Ubuntu 12.04.3 have the >=Quantal Ambiance and Radiance themes?16:56
CatbuntuI mean, are they backported?16:56
mrrcpgood day16:59
elimikI just purchased the humble indie bundle 9 and I see that the game "Fez" can be downloaded for linux only as a binary. I know I could just put the binary in my home folder, but what is best directory to put it?17:00
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EdwardSnowdenelimik, just put it in your home. If you need to launch it from terminal regularly just symlink  it in /usr/bin17:04
cong\local\bin i think17:04
congi think there's a ~/.local/bin17:05
XantusHi Leute17:05
Xantusjemand Deutsch hier ?17:05
Pici!de | Xantus17:06
ubottuXantus: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!17:06
Benkinoobyhi - i use ubuntu and fluxbox (so no big wizzards) and i want to change the keyboard layout of my system. i read instructions but either the used files do ont exist or it did not work. where can i see what layouts are available and where do i set them. .Xmodmap seems to be for single keys only.17:06
Xantusoky , thanks lot and bye ;-)17:06
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mal10cBenkinooby: not sure what file it's modifying, but does this help?  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration"17:12
Benkinoobymal10c: hope so? https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard just found it here (as you did too i guess) brb17:13
siberiannerdi got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097714/17:17
Wiz_KeeDHelp guys, the wireless is still not working :((17:17
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Benkinoobymal10c: are you the guy who mentioned the dpkg-refconfigure for the keyboard layout?17:19
mal10cBenkinooby: yep, that's me.  i also found a command setxkbmap. That might work for you too17:20
Wiz_KeeDhalp? :(17:20
rachoWiz_KeeD, what's the chip model?17:21
Benkinoobymal10c: the reconfigure helped me. it modifies /etc/default/keyboard17:21
Benkinoobymal10c: wooo - did you know that there is tab-completion for paths in ubuntu Oo?! nice one!17:22
mal10cBenkinooby: ah, I'll remember that file.  I haven't worked wtih /etc/default/keyboard17:22
Benkinoobymal10c: well i wanted to edit it manually but i didn't find the valid options to put there... well seems like the WANT me to do it through that reconfigure17:22
Wiz_KeeD04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)Subsystem: Dell Wireless 1397 WLAN Mini-CardKernel modules: ssb17:22
rachoWiz_KeeD, oh good the old broadcom c*ap.. doesn't it show up in restricted drivers?17:23
Wiz_KeeD:(17:24
Wiz_KeeDI have to run now, shit17:24
Wiz_KeeDthanks for the help racho17:24
Wiz_KeeDsee you later17:24
Mondaywhich is the fastest file system for linux?17:24
daftykinsMonday: totally depends on what you intend to store17:25
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Benkinoobymal10c: anyway it worked. it's a bit confusing that there are so many ways... xmodmap, setxkbmap and reconfigigure... hm, from the manpage of setxkbmap i guess this will only kick in, if X11 is up - so if you'Re lost without X11 i am not sure it will have effect...17:25
snqLtrue pacany govoryat na russkom17:25
snqLenglish dlya slabih17:25
Benkinoobymal10c: well, the reconfigure also shows effect in virtual terminal (no X11 there...) - just for your information. thank you for your help and interest17:26
mal10cBenkinooby: no problem.  glad it worked out. i learned something there too17:27
rachoMonday, generally ext4 otherwsie => lots of small files can cope with slow mounting -> ReiserFS; large files -> XFS/ZFS; feeling experimental -> btrfs17:27
Mondayso i guess not one uses ext2 or ext 3 anymore17:29
dadsminecrafthello, I ama linux noob trying to set-up a minecraft server for someone, I need to enable or create ssh for them to be able to properley start and stop the server, I have xubuntu installed with Openssh and the required dependencies also17:29
rachoMonday, i still use ext3 on most of the servers i manage.. it works good17:29
Benkinoobymal10c: better remember the dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration - it is easier than to look up possible options for /tec/default/keyboard17:29
Benkinooby!lightdm17:29
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dadsminecraftI am not sure what else I need to do I guess I just assumed the ssh server would reflect the systems users passwords, but I am not able to log on with putty from windows machine17:31
rachodadsminecraft, usually it DOES reflect the system users. does the account you're trying to log in exists? have you installed the full ssh-suite (the server (sshd) + client) or only the client). is there some subtle network thing that's working against you?17:35
dadsminecraftIs there anyone here that can help me through setting up ssh server on my xbunutu box please?17:40
defaultrois this a good way to install LAMP? sudo tasksel install lamp-server17:41
geniidadsminecraft: Just need to install openssh-server, either from software center or by sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server ..in a terminal.17:42
daftykinsdefaultro: yeah nothing wrong with that17:42
defaultrocool17:42
daftykinsdefaultro: or just "sudo tasksel" then use the menu that comes up to do it17:42
defaultrogot it17:42
geniidefaultro: Alternately just run sudo tasksel  and check it off17:42
defaultrowill do17:43
genii( along with possible other useful things like ssh server.... )17:43
defaultrothe reason why we want to use it is because we would like to automate our scaling in amazon17:43
jay__hi17:44
jay__anyone may help me with a php problem17:44
MonkeyDust!anyone17:44
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.17:44
defaultrolol17:45
IdleOnejay__: ##php can17:46
dadsminecraftok done and done, but when I do try and connect with putty, It asks for name, and password, I enter my user name and then to password and is just keeps asking for password, do I have to set-up ssh users? I assumed they would be users on the system17:46
dadsminecraftagain all I did was install ssh server and try and connect17:47
Marleneeis ubuntu provide ssh servers , VPS , Deicated servers ?17:47
rachoMarlenee, yes and yes and that's true of almost all linux distros17:47
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Marleneeracho : iam talk about is ubuntu company sell   ssh servers , VPS , Deicated servers ?17:48
Marleneeracho : iam not talking about OS17:49
daftykinsoh crikey Marlenee is back17:49
daftykinsMarlenee: your english really isn't good enough to ask the things you try to ask17:49
horrowlol17:50
dadsminecraftneither is mine dafty and I was born raised south dakota17:50
daftykinsdadsminecraft: well i understood that sentence so you're one up on Marlenee already17:51
dadsminecraftlol, ok but that was a staement I dont understand enough to ask the questions I need to answer17:51
rypervencheMarlenee: Where are you from?17:51
OerHeksCanonical/ubuntu only sells hardware-mouses AFAIK17:52
MarleneeUS17:52
cowbaconMarlenee: no ubuntu doesn't sell dedicated servers. you need to look elsewhere for that im afraid17:52
Marleneeiam trying to deliver my point17:52
rypervencheMarlenee: What is your native language?17:52
Sirisian|WorkSo is /usr/share/zoneinfo/ like a complete olson DB for timezones? Writing some software that runs on ubuntu and I figure I'll just query that for them locally if that's the case.17:52
__ravenxubuntu 12.04.3 lts: build of http://sourceforge.net/projects/electricowl/files/latest/download results in that: http://pastebin.com/8bEGC3sY - all headers installed - whats the problem?17:52
rypervencheMarlenee: Your time shows you to be in GMT+2, which is not in the U.S.17:52
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Marleneerypervenche : dont bing me17:53
horrow+2 sofia talin vilnus17:53
horrowand other17:53
horrow:D17:53
quackerso/ all  -  any chance of some guidance/suggestions please?17:54
bhaveshHow can I install and use Java JDK on ubuntu without root and internet access?17:54
quackersI attempted to use synaptic to install laptop-mode-tools which seg faulted synaptic - now Ubuntu just gives a kernel panic17:55
cowbaconbhavesh: you cant. you need root to install software17:55
quackersI can't get to tty17:55
bhaveshcowbacon: I just read here http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml that I can install it to my home directory without root access17:56
OerHeksbhavesh, you need root. after that, you could use apt-on-cd17:56
OerHeks!offline17:56
ubottuIf you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD17:56
bhaveshcowbacon: but that must be JRE..17:56
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cowbaconbhavesh: if you want it locally then you can just follow the guide in the link you posted. but if you want it installed and usuable for many users without tinkering you need root17:57
bhaveshcowbacon: I just want it for myself.17:58
naibedi have to install debian because ubuntu doesn't have haskell packages17:58
Marleneeany site provide info about ubuntu certified cloud ?17:58
dadsminecraftno help on the ssh server set-up? If there is anything to set-up? please I have looked around before coming here, I hate to beg , but I'm like halh retarded half windows18:00
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cowbacondadsminecraft: whats your question?18:01
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dadsminecraftI installed openssh, thats it mind you, and in putty I enter my system user name and it just asks for password over and over18:02
AmisHello! I tried to install Ubuntu 12.04 through Wubi but after the first reboot (first boot into Ubuntu) it tells me "No root file system is defined" during verification of installation configuration or something. What's up with that?18:03
dadsminecraftdo I have to set-up ssh users and if so where and how?18:03
Dennis8162Hi I wan't to Install WINE on a computer without internet access. Which file do i download for Ubuntu 13 -32bit? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wine1.4/18:03
darth_damian_000Hello. Does the command sudo apt-get update suffice to update the OS? Must I follow with sudo apt-get upgrade ?18:03
kostkondarth_damian_000, yes18:04
cowbacondadsminecraft: and you're sure its the correct password? try changing your password in ubuntu to something simple like 123456 just to see if its nothing wrong with the sending of the password18:04
darth_damian_000kostkon, yes to which question?18:04
kostkondarth_damian_000, 2nd one18:04
darth_damian_000thanks18:04
cowbacondadsminecraft: and you also need to use the username on the debian machine, not the real name, for example if your real name is john smith and your username is jsmith its jsmith you need to use to log in18:04
dadsminecraftok I am correct that it does use system users fot acess though18:04
kostkon!sshd | dadsminecraft18:05
ubottudadsminecraft: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, sshd is the server (or daemon) of SSH. For setting up the SSH server, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html . Advanced SSH uses: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Advanced . For SSH client information, see !ssh . Related: !scp (Secure CoPy)18:05
cowbacondadsminecraft: you wont need to set up any users to be able to connect with ssh, it uses system users by default18:05
OerHeksdadsminecraft, pretty easy https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html and add user "jim" >> http://askubuntu.com/a/1666118:05
dadsminecraftok I will be back after a bit of reading and testing, TY18:06
Benkinoobyhi - is it true that xdm is troublesome under ubuntu?18:06
cowbacongood luck18:06
zykotick9Benkinooby: xdm is rather... reto...18:08
rypervencheWow, Marlenee is pretty bad.18:09
Benkinoobyzykotick9: welly, my system is rather retro too.. 800 Mhz, 1 GB ram, 50 GB hdd18:09
jcbjoedoes anyone use the i3-wm ?18:09
Benkinoobyzykotick9: but i am more worried about dbus and all that - i heard that you will suffer more than benefit from xdm18:09
Benkinoobysince it can not handle certain things like console kit daemon18:09
Benkinoobyi tried to bott with it and got stuck - now i want to know if i should try to fix it, or drop it18:10
zykotick9Benkinooby: i haven't used xdm in years.  you might consider lightdm or even slim as alternatives?  best of luck.18:10
Benkinoobyzykotick9: i am using lightdm right now - seems to work18:11
dadsminecrafthmmm well it did not like my previous password then cause I made a new user and easy pass and boom right in, totally fell retarded at this point18:11
vitewhats the best route for energy efficient WS. Install the server version of ubuntu and build a light weight desktop enviroment on top of that or go with something like lubuntu straight away?18:13
kostkonvite, WS?18:13
vitekostkon: work station18:14
kostkonah18:14
dadsminecraftis there a password size limit for ssh?18:15
OerHeks!minimal18:15
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD18:15
viteOerHeks: thanks18:15
cowbaconvite: it depends on what you actually need. if you need the absolute minimum without sound etc go with server -> manual install of WM. but if you want media usage id recommend going with xubuntu/lubuntu and it'll be fixed for you18:15
rypervenchedadsminecraft: SSH uses the user on the system. And no, not that I know of.18:15
OerHeksvite, also your start with server iso is a good way18:15
bwayneis it possible to configure the alt-tab window switch to include those windows which are on another virtual desktop?18:16
bwaynee.g. I have terminal on desktop #4. on desktop #1, alt-tab doesn't show it. any configuration to let it?18:16
cowbacondadsminecraft: heres a test for you. on your ubuntu system type ssh localhost18:16
cowbacondadsminecraft: and if your password works there then we know your user/pass works locally with ssh18:16
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dtcrshrI have this oldschool backup of an ubuntu 10.04 lts with an experimental project, but the password is lost, can anyone point me to a nice guide to acces and change the root password?18:17
dtcrshrim using vmware18:17
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cowbacondadsminecraft: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-recover-root-password-under-linux-with-single-user-mode/18:19
cowbaconwoops18:19
cowbacondtcrshr: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-recover-root-password-under-linux-with-single-user-mode/ *18:19
viteOerHeks: does the minimal version have the option to encrypt the drive?18:19
cowbaconvite: you would probably need to download ecryptfs18:20
dadsminecraftyep cow it wors locar but not remote for "my" account and the newly created account does the ssh in just fine but "my" account does not remote in. Not a huge deal I know it is working.18:20
cowbacondadsminecraft: are you perhaps using special chars in your password? that wont get translated correctly when sending from windows to linux. try chaning the password and see if it works18:21
cowbacondadsminecraft: also, this is a bit more advanced to set up but it makes sshing into machines super easy once it's set up: http://www.howtoforge.com/ssh_key_based_logins_putty18:24
dadsminecraftthank-you for your guidance, feel like holding my hand through firewall and ip tables, nvm I must read and learn this crap, I feel too old to learn all this stuff. Umm no no special chars but I will change pass and try that in a bit, as long as a user I set-up can ssh into his directory I am happy.18:24
OerHeksvite i look at these screenshots and find only user space encryption, not the whole drive http://amjjawad.blogspot.nl/2013/07/ubuntu-mini-iso-installation-process.html18:24
dadsminecraftyes the whole key based logins is what got me thinking I was missing something as I was reading thee man pages18:24
cowbacondadsminecraft: dadsminecraft ubuntu has a good utility for firewall, ufw (and gufw for graphical)18:25
cowbacon!ufw | dadsminecraft18:25
ubottudadsminecraft: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo18:25
bwaynefound it. gconf-editor /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options/ --> toggle alt_tab_bias_viewpot18:25
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dadsminecraftyou guys have been great, really, I will get on those, I def needs gui, being a windows tard since win 3.1, but I will be back,18:28
cowbacongood luck18:29
dadsminecraftthanks I really do need it18:29
dtcrshrthanks cowbacon ill get it on18:31
naibedwhy ubuntu repository has no haskell18:32
bazhanghaskell-debian-utils   naibed ?18:33
bazhangapt-cache search haskell naibed18:33
trismnaibed: we have haskell, but 13.04 doesn't have the haskell-platform package because the new one wasn't ready in time for the release18:34
trismnaibed: you can still install the individual packages that make up the platform18:34
dadsminecraftyus firestarter has a freaking wixard, all down hill18:36
TESLA33hi18:37
lesshasteI used to have a music server running but then I upgraded.. how do I check if it is still running?18:42
lesshastethe trick is that I can't remember what it was called :)18:42
rypervenchelesshaste: Do you know what port it's running on? You can use netstat or lsof depending on what information you can search for.18:42
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rypervenchelesshaste: netstat -plunt18:43
lesshasterypervenche, it is using whatever the standard is.. dlna?18:43
lesshastenetstat -plunt only shows dropbox as a program name although quite a lot of other things too without names18:44
lesshasteaha.. mediatomb!18:44
lesshastethat's what it was called18:44
lesshastesudo netstat -plunt answers it18:45
lesshastethatnks!18:45
lesshasteyou need sudo to get the names it seems18:45
rypervencheYep18:45
goosie2020Hello everyone18:48
goosie2020I have a quick question18:48
iDangerMouseSure18:48
daftykinsgoosie2020: ask away18:49
goosie2020You know how in some distros down on the bottom (or top depending on where it is) of the taskbar there are four squares representing different desktops to help you organize the tasks you are working on18:49
iDangerMouseum ya18:49
bazhangworkspaces18:49
OxymoronHow do you fix the cups filter options? I dont know why, but since latest ubuntu releases it print from wrong casette all the time, and when I force to print from rear casette with paper, then you cannot even see the text printed, thats how bad quality it is. I know the printer works as it works from my Windows computer. Seriously how to fix? I have installed the printers official driver from Canon, cups-common18:50
goosie2020well right now I am on a kubuntu distro im trying out. so far I like it but i dont see those from the start. but yet, in this guys distro - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Kubuntu-8.10-miniscreenshot.png18:50
goosie2020he is using kubuntu as welll18:50
goosie2020well18:50
goosie2020but he managed to get those on his distro18:50
iDangerMouseSorry, haven't used Kubuntu in forever.18:51
daftykinsgoosie2020: it's probably in the control panel equivalent of KDE18:51
goosie2020yea workspaces thats what they are called18:51
daftykinsenabling workspaces or something18:51
goosie2020how do i access that specific CP18:51
napscmaybe workspace switcher18:51
iDangerMouseBut18:51
iDangerMouseThere is a way...18:51
iDangerMouseRight-click on the workspace icons and go to preferences...you can add as many as you need.18:51
goosie2020What about "Workspace Behavior"18:52
iDangerMouseSee this, http://superuser.com/questions/596278/kubuntu-are-there-workspaces-in-kubuntu-and-how-can-i-switch-between-them-wi18:52
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goosie2020Ok I got them configured now18:53
goosie2020And I can switch between them using the keyboard shortcuts...but what do I have to do to put that little button on my taskbar18:54
daftykinsright click add?18:54
iDangerMousehttp://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html18:55
iDangerMouseRead the manual will come handy and explains everything.18:55
altermannhi there18:56
daftykinshi18:56
altermanni was in here yesterday with some issues that i was having while trying to reinstall ubuntu-desktop or kde and some fine individuals were trying to help but i had no way of pasting stuff18:56
altermannhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6098322/18:56
altermanni'm getting an error that says my package manager is broken18:57
altermannubuntu is not really my bread and butter so i need some assistance if possible18:57
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iDangerMousesudo apt-get -f install18:58
altermanniDangerMouse: i've done that to no avail18:58
iDangerMousesudo apt-get autoclean18:59
iDangerMousesudo apt-get clean18:59
iDangerMousesudo apt-get autoremove18:59
iDangerMousesudo dpkg --remove -force --force-remove-reinstreq package name18:59
altermanni shall try that19:00
altermannthank you19:00
iDangerMousesure19:00
iDangerMouseI'll hush and let others help :P19:01
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upd_if that does not help try http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/19:02
TheHopeBusterw00p19:02
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OxymoronHow do you fix the cups filter options? I dont know why, but since latest ubuntu releases it print from wrong casette all the time, and when I force to print from rear casette with paper, then you cannot even see the text printed, thats how bad quality it is. I know the printer works as it works from my Windows computer. Seriously how to fix? I have installed the printers official driver from Canon, cups-common19:03
ncddHey! Could somebody help me in routes? I am trying to get my eth1 to work. With this routing table I am able to ping via eth0 but not eth1 http://pastebin.mozilla.org/303702619:05
ncddI'm trying to make eth0 as "default", so thats why metric is 10019:06
Ipzaelhello19:06
altermannmy sources list says ubuntu 10.04, i'm guessing this system was upgraded to 1219:06
dadsminecraftyay gui firewall set-up and working19:08
wilee-nileealtermann, If the sources list says 10.04, what is your reasoning you are running 12.04?19:08
dadsminecraftfirestarter is the bomb for us idiots19:09
MonkeyDustaltermann  what's the out put of     cat /etc/issue ?19:09
EnissayAfter the update, chrome isnt displaying http://stackoverflow.com/ 's page anymore... (only blank pages, even the source code is there)19:12
lapioncan anyone tell me what grub commands to use to boot with the root files system on a a partition with it volume in /@//19:12
Enissayanything to fix this ? or even how to roll back to an older version...19:13
lapionEnissay, Do other pages show ?19:13
Enissaylapion, yes19:13
wilee-nileeEnissay, any addons that may block?19:14
lapionEnissay, Do other pages show ??19:14
lapionEnissay, Sorry meant to say: Even after a shift-refresh ?19:15
Enissaylapion, yes, all my other tabs are loaded correctly...19:15
Enissaylapion, nothing changed with shift+F519:15
Enissaybtw it's Google Chrome 29.0.1547.6519:16
lapionI usually get pageload problems when my home directory fills up19:16
Enissaywilee-nilee, probably, but wich one, i've plenty xD19:16
max_#rails19:16
wilee-nileeEnissay, You have had it closed since the upgrade right? adblockers, flashblockers,cookie blockers.19:17
lapionlook in: "chrome:plugins"19:17
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wilee-nileeEnissay, Start it with the addons disabled to check if the problem is there.19:19
wilee-nileehttp://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2010/02/google-chrome-safe-mode.html19:20
Enissaywell, it's working in incognito mode... wich means some extension is causing this :/19:21
reisiochromium --user-data-dir=nonsenseHere probably works, too19:21
reisiounless you have a million extensions, it's probably going to be simplest to backup your profile dir and start a new one19:22
reisiocopying data from the old into the new as desired19:22
reisiobits at a time, and then if the problem is re-introduced, you'll know by what19:22
Benkinoobyhi, what do i have to do in 12.10 to use startx instead of a disktop manager? also, i still want to keep the managers in case i mess u with xstart19:25
dry[1]Hi. I'm working on Ubuntu. Java is working on browsers, but nowhere else (like Minecraft). How to fix it, plz?19:26
Enissaydamn... I disabled like 10 extensions I dont use usally... and the website is working now... but still dont know wich one was causing this xD19:27
Enissaywilee-nilee, lapion, Thank you for your help guys <319:27
CarlFKdry[1]: give details on "not working"19:28
lapionEnissay, try turning them on one by one until the problem occurs again..19:28
dry[1]CarlFK: All necessary details are here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217125519:31
trailblzrCan anybody help me with a quick question for school? I've looked at textbooks and done some googling but I can't find the answer. I know there are two ways to change file permissions with chmod. Supposedly  there's a third and I can't find it anywhere. I know you can do chmod 777 filename or chmod a=rwx. Is there a thrird method.19:33
MagicarpI'm trying to mount a VDI image. I've got the offset and my cmd so far is  mount v.Vdi /mnt/ -o loop,offset=28672 but I need to pass the filesystem type19:34
Enissaylapion, I'll activate them when I need them, everytime I'll check the website to catch the one responsible xD19:34
reisioMagicarp: -t19:34
CarlFKdry[1]: looks like java is working, but minecraft is not.  (note: "looks like" is about all I got)19:35
reisioI wonder if minecraft requires oracle's jre over opendk19:35
reisiowould be odd19:36
reisiobut Java™ is odd :p19:36
dry[1]CarlFK: So what about Cheese, WebcamStudio...19:36
Walextrailblzr: not really....19:36
Walextrailblzr: you can *copy* permissions from a file to another, but it is not a really different way.19:36
Walextrailblzr: anyhow 'man chmod' will help...19:37
Magicarpreisio I've added -t ext4 to the end but it gives me wrong fs type even though it's defiantly ext419:37
WalexMagicarp: adding options *to the end* is usually a rather bad idea copied unthinkily over from DOS.19:38
reisioMagicarp: what do you plan to do after mounting it?19:38
reisioMagicarp: why are you storing this data as a .vdi?19:38
reisioWalex: hrmm?19:38
dadsminecraftfor what its worth I installed oracal jre on sons laptop and it works just fine19:39
WalexMagicarp: also probably the offset is wrong, else 'mount' would autodetect the type of fs.19:39
reisiodadsminecraft: same OS?19:39
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reisioMagicarp: a compressed tarball is a good way to store a filesystem19:40
reisioMagicarp: a .vdi is not19:40
Walexreisio: the UNIX tradition is that options and arguments take effect strictly left-to-right., and while some programs allow you to do otherwise, many programs still do it left to right.19:40
reisioWalex: name two19:40
dadsminecraftsorry I failed to see he is on 12.04, I am on 13.04?19:40
reisiodadsminecraft: well I meant OS not version anyways :) so that's interesting19:41
Walexreisio: 'tar' and 'iptables' for example19:41
reisiodadsminecraft: maybe it really does need oracle's19:41
CarlFKdry[1]: "not working" ..19:41
reisioWalex: tar? I don't think so19:41
whowhatWhat archive formats include file lists? Does anybody know? I'm trying to use encrypted archives on a remote drive, and I'm using RAR format. However, when I try to list the files in the archive via "rar l archive.rar" I notice that my bandwidth spikes and an amount of data equivalent to the archive size is downloaded before the files are listed. I would like to be able to encrypt a file list that is included in the file container, is t19:41
whowhathis possible?19:41
whowhatmy bad, I do "unrar l archive.rar"19:41
Walexwhowhat: ZIP for example.19:41
reisioand I don't think iptables is a traditional Unix tool19:42
reisioso 2 times the wrong :)19:42
wilee-nileeinsert rim shot here19:42
Walexreisio: consider the '-C' option of 'tar'...19:42
reisioWalex: what about the -C option19:42
CarlFKdry[1]: "blank screen" is sounding more like a video problem than a java problem19:42
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whowhatWalex: ZIP I believe is a less-secure container19:42
jhutchinswhowhat: No.19:43
reisiowhowhat: 7z encrypts, too19:44
reisiowhowhat: or you could just use encfs, ecryptfs19:44
dadsminecraftI am also planning on installing lubunutu on wifies netbook I'll see if it5 work there also, cant have too much MC after all19:44
reisiowhowhat: or openssl19:44
SupaYoshiiHey guys, Im getting this error with a program: jpeglib.h: No such file or directory19:44
Walexreisio: also 'gcc' for example.19:44
dry[1]CarlFK: Cheese + WebcamStudio - not even opening with a message like "Try to reproduce the problem you are facing and 'Close' Cheese."19:44
SupaYoshiiHowever i have the libpng-dev installed19:44
whowhatreisio: thanks, I'll look into the latter two options19:44
Walexreisio: most of the programs that don't use GNU GetOpt...19:44
SupaYoshiiso i dont know19:44
SupaYoshiiwhats wrong =/19:44
reisioWalex: ignoring that gcc is also not a traditional Unix util, what is your example of strangely ordered params failing?19:45
Walexreisio: that except for GNU GetOpt option arguments apply only to the non-option arguments that follow it on the command line.19:46
CarlFKdry[1]: I would find a #minecraft support channel - i hear it is pretty popular :)19:46
PiciSupaYoshii: but libpng-dev doesn't provide jpeglib.h.... Try libjpeg62-dev or libjpeg-turbo8-dev instead.19:46
reisioWalex: as opposed to?19:46
dry[1]CarlFK: Another message: "Cheese crashed with SIGSEGV in cheese_camera_setup()". Is this some kind of hint?19:48
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CarlFKdry[1]: kinda .. I am guessing *if* they are related, cheese is trying to display an image, so instead of black screen it errors19:50
jhutchinsdry[1]: It is often helpful to launch GUI apps from the console so that you can see errors they are giving on stdout and stderr.19:51
ace_meI did added in aliases root : my@gmail.com but now I face in the test echo "Subject: test" | /usr/lib/sendmail -v my@gmail.com message does not meet IPv6 sending guidelines regarding PTR records19:51
ace_meand authentication. Please review19:52
jhutchinsace_me: that SAYS that your ipv6 DNS record doesn't meet your relaying restrictions, but I suspect that you should be using mailx instead of sendmail.19:53
ace_mewhere I should check jhattara19:54
ace_mewhere I should check jhutchins19:54
dry[1]jhutchins: "(cheese:12250): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkToggleButton, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkToggleButton can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkLabel"19:55
arcskyi got an ubuntu machine with 11.04 and want to get 13.04, ist possible to upgrade/install it over ssh?19:56
Walexarcsky: probably, unless you have installed non-Ubuntu packages that don't have 13.04 versions.19:59
defaultrois anyone here uses CLoudFormation in AWS?19:59
MonkeyDustarcsky  11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04 > 12.10 > 13.04     but not directly19:59
reisiodefaultro: what if anyone were? :p20:00
arcskyMonkeyDust: oke20:00
juniourhey i am using hashlot to create a sha512 hash, wheni do the same with mkpasswd , the results different. cn anyone tell me y?/20:01
defaultroi was hoping he would be able to help me how to install ubuntu, apache, mysql20:01
defaultrousing cloud formation templates20:01
defaultrolike this, but this one uses yum - https://s3.amazonaws.com/cloudformation-templates-us-east-1/LAMP_Single_Instance.template20:01
juniourhey i am using hashalot to create a sha512 hash, wheni do the same with mkpasswd , the results different. cn anyone tell me y?/20:01
reisiodefaultro: ##aws will probably do20:01
ace_memessage does not meet IPv6 sending guidelines regarding PTR records - what should I check ?20:02
defaultrowhen I go to that channel, it says, it doesn't exist20:02
reisioace_me: check whether what you wanted it to do actually didn't happen20:02
reisiodefaultro: two #'s, welcome to freenode's silly20:02
defaultrooh, I used double #20:02
defaultroit' works20:02
defaultrothanks a lot!!! :D20:02
reisioyeah, don't ask, it will only make you hate humanity more20:02
reisiojuniour: because they're different commands?20:03
reisiojuniour: what makes you think they'd be the same? What makes you care?20:03
reisiojuniour: what are you trying to do20:03
defaultrowhich tool is used when installing packages in Ubuntu?20:03
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antarcan anybody help me to solve this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6098599/20:03
antari changed the envirnoment variable EDITOR to sublime20:04
antarthats for using the quickly edit using sublime editor20:04
juniourreisio different command but i am generating sha521 hash, it must be same20:04
reisiodefaultro: apt-get or one of several frontends, software center, etc.20:04
junioursorry sha51220:04
antarwhenever i use it i get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6098599/20:04
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MonkeyDustantar  better ask in #python20:05
defaultrothanks reisio20:05
altermannwilee-nilee: i'm running 12.04 because the OS was upgraded20:05
antarMonkeyDust, Really20:05
kostkonantar, is the sublime executable just 'sublime'?20:05
MariusITi'm in a pickly here, for the paste 48 hours i've been trying to debug apt-get http://pastebin.com/iggqLssn currently i'm using just 2 repo's "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted" and "deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted" and still can't fix it.20:05
defaultroI'm wondering if this link I found will work with aws, I'll ask them - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP20:05
altermanni just renamed the source.list and created a new one with 12.04 repos20:05
antarkostkon, i used the tow the bin/subl and sublime20:05
antarthe same error20:05
MariusITThe network works fine, can ping every repo out there, can access the packages from a browser, but can't get them to work with apt-get update20:05
MariusITany ideeas?20:06
reisioantar: you used the full path?20:06
antarreisio, Yeah of course20:06
TikkaMassalahey guys whats the difference between Unity and Unity 2D? I run desktop with a good graphics card but Unity is working bad for me with windows flickering when moving etc. Unity 2D is working really smooth and i shure can use it but my understanding is that Unity have better effects but is more demanding, then i would like to use that if i can. I am running with the Recommended accelerated graphics driver for NVIDIA.20:06
kostkonantar, are you able to start it by giving sublime in the terminal20:06
antar/usr/bin/subl20:06
ace_mereisio I've setup aliases root to my gmail address and when I test I get : message does not meet IPv6 sending guidelines regarding PTR records - what should I check ?20:06
reisioTikkaMassala: they're the same visual appearance implemented in entirely different ways20:07
antarkostkon, Yeah it works just fine20:07
ace_mewhat setting  maybe reisio ?20:07
kostkonantar, try setting the env var to subl then20:07
reisioTikkaMassala: Unity is a compiz (window manager) plugin, and 2D is in Qt, IIRC20:07
kostkonantar, is it subl?20:07
jhutchinsace_me: /var/log/mail.log for one.20:07
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Ben64MariusIT: try changing them to us.archive.ubuntu.com20:07
antarkostkon, exactly it is subl20:07
kostkonantar, ok20:08
antarkostkon, but why /usr/bin/subl not working ?20:08
jhutchinsace_me: Were did you get the syntax for sending mail?20:08
TikkaMassalareisio: So whats the explanation to Unity working badly for me and am i missing out on some cool features that i cant use in 2D?20:08
kostkonantar, no idea, maybe because it's not in /usr/bin20:08
MariusITBen64: same error, it's like it dosen't even reads the server data ...20:08
antarkostkon, the same error with subl20:08
reisioTikkaMassala: they're entirely different code bases, with different requirements and different bugs/etc.20:08
jhutchinsace_me: Very unlikely that it has anything to do with aliases.20:08
antarkostkon, i have been bast it as bin20:09
reisioTikkaMassala: about 90% of the accelerated features are just eye candy, very little of it is actually useful20:09
antarhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6098599/20:09
Ben64MariusIT: its a 404 error so something is wrong in your sources.list20:09
antarkostkon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6098599/ try to read that can help you20:09
jhutchinsace_me: Again, you should be using mailx: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4658283/shell-script-to-send-email20:09
TikkaMassalareisio: Ok, so they have the same visual appearence then? I like eye candy, btw.20:09
reisioTikkaMassala: for that matter you can use Xfce instead of GNOME/Unity/2D and configure it to have almost the same setup, with a panel on the left, only it'd be even lighter still20:10
Ben64MariusIT: or use this... http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/20:10
reisioTikkaMassala: yes... hence they share a name20:10
MariusITBen64: cat /etc/apt/sources.list http://pastebin.com/N3SX127q20:10
defaultroi found a very good link reisio which will be able to get me started, http://blog.engelke.com/2012/12/28/provisioning-a-server-with-cloudformation/20:10
reisiodefaultro: gj20:10
defaultro:)20:10
kostkonantar, it means that popen cannot find the executable20:10
MariusITBen64: allready tryed that, multiple times, same result20:10
antarkostkon, the same error with nano20:10
kostkonantar, hmm20:11
antarkostkon, what do you think ?20:11
altermannany idea how i can fix this?20:11
altermannhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6098322/20:11
altermanni've created a fresh source.list file but i'm still getting that error20:12
kostkonantar, try these suggestions here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/84878/how-to-change-quicklys-editor20:13
antaraltermann, using apt-get ?20:13
TikkaMassalareisio: Thanks for the help. I am dualbooting Ubuntu and Mint XFCE on different SSDs just to try them out and settle for something. Something keeps me on the Ubuntu, i dont know why really i guess it feels safe20:13
reisioTikkaMassala: they're mostly the same ;)20:13
antarkostkon, read it not working20:13
altermannantar yes20:13
reisioand like i said, you can make Xfce look a lot like Unity20:13
Ben64MariusIT: try this one and pastebin the result of apt-get update after http://pastebin.com/LAb1ZNGP20:14
antaraltermann, install the dependencies one by one20:14
reisioyou can even use compiz with Xfce, the way Unity uses compiz with GNOME20:14
altermannantar:  are you asking if i've created the source.list using apt-get or if i get that error when i use apt-get?20:14
boxmeinHi20:14
we6jboHow do I find out what version of Ubuntu I'm running?20:14
reisiowe6jbo: cat /etc/*release*20:14
antaraltermann, i asked if you are using apt-get20:15
reisioboxmein: hi20:15
kostkonantar, you could try setting the editor with one of these methods: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55022/changing-default-editor  try them all20:15
altermannantar: yes i am using apt-get to install packages20:15
boxmeinSo next up in my world of mishaps, how would I turn my magical gnome-fallback's window frames transparent?20:15
altermannantar: all of those packages depend on libqtcore4 which fails to install no matter what i do20:15
antaraltermann, so i think that you need to install this dependencies20:15
TikkaMassalareisio: Yes, but its mostly the default theme and the menu bar implemented on the panel that i like about Ubuntu, the launcher bar i could do without honestly. And i guess i like the search thingy menu, its something different20:15
we6jboThanks reisio20:16
reisioantar: if that doesn't work I bet #sublimetext would know what to do20:16
MariusITBen64: i tryed that before, just a huge error list http://pastebin.com/myaEhdjx p.s. u ro?20:16
reisioTikkaMassala: it's a decent enough approach to a desktop paradigm20:16
antarreisio, thatks20:16
antarthanks*20:17
reisiothe people who don't like it mostly just don't like it _compared to_ what they already knew20:17
reisionot compared to nothing in particular20:17
reisio20:17
Ben64MariusIT: seems like a problem with either your internet or something weird in your ubuntu20:19
altermannantar: i don't know what you're referring to20:20
altermannthere's one dependency for all packages, and that dep is libqtcore4 which fails to install20:21
MariusITBen64: i ruled our the internet acting wird, becouse if can browse the repo's from a different pc in the same lan, i'm betting on something wird20:21
Ben64MariusIT: try changing the repo to 2.ben64.com20:22
Ben64MariusIT: then i can see what url your computer is actually trying to access :)20:23
altermannMonkeyDust: Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l - that's the output of cat /etc/issue20:23
MariusITBen64 http://2.ben64.com/ precise main restricted  ?20:23
Ben64MariusIT: yep20:23
MariusITk20:23
MonkeyDustaltermann  great, now let's look at your sources... pastebin     sudo apt-get update20:23
MariusITBen64: accessed, what's it saying?20:24
MariusITBen64: source 86.120.254.6020:25
Ben64MariusIT: um... no access at all20:25
MariusITBen64: o_O let me try again...20:25
altermannMonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6098695/20:26
altermannthat's the output after i ran apt-get update20:26
MariusITBen64: ok, how about now?20:26
Ben64still nothing20:26
MariusITBen64: was a typo in it, should say something20:26
Ben64absolutely nothing from you20:27
Ben64i'd suggest using wireshark to find out, but i'm guessing you can't install it without apt-get working20:28
MonkeyDustaltermann  and what was your initial question/issue?20:28
root_n20:28
altermannMonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6098322/20:28
altermanni can't install any software cause of the error seen in the line above20:29
eyesmanhello?20:30
MonkeyDustaltermann  yes, i see the infamous 'libstdc' in that list20:30
dtcrshrcowbacon: Actually on the vmware after I boot it goes straight to the login prompt, is there any other commands to call the repair mode beoore boot?20:30
altermannMonkeyDust: what about it?20:31
T-Sourcemakercan I configure procmail for logging to syslog?20:31
pfrazerkhunter worth it?20:31
MonkeyDustaltermann  sorry, it's beyond me, i'm sure someone else can help better20:34
altermannthanks20:35
arayaqHi. I have problems trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop with a external monitor only. The screen gets detected at start but soon the monitor goes off saying no signal.20:36
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arayaqHas anyone experienced and solved something similar?20:36
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wyldearayaq: Have you tried the laptop's hardware buttons for switching to external display only?20:38
arayaqwylde: Yes, I have tried. Also tried nomodeset and nothing happens20:38
an3khi all20:39
an3khow can I check for what reason ubuntu 13.04 cannot go into suspend/hibernate on this notebook?20:39
altermanni'm getting another issue after following an online guide but not removing and actually reinstalling my packages, the error is:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6098740/20:41
wyldearayaq: Alrighty. Just thougt I'd put that out there. Had to do that with an old laptop using an external display only once.20:42
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kostkonan3k, try to suspend/hibernate and right after check your logs if that is possible20:42
arayaqwylde: Thank you anyway :)20:43
an3kkostkon: i cannot even try because the menu entry is grayed out20:43
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kostkonan3k, hibernate is disabled by default in ubuntu anyway. you should have an option to suspend though20:43
jhutchinsan3k: What notebook?  How old?20:44
an3kwell, german lang and for us hibernate is the same as suspend20:44
an3kstandby is possible without problems20:44
kostkonan3k, stanby = suspend20:44
an3kjhutchins: DELL Inspiron 630m, around 6 or 8 years20:44
jhutchinsan3k: swap >= 1x RAM?20:44
an3kkostkon: oh :)20:44
an3kjhutchins: RAM & swap = 2 GB20:45
jhutchinsan3k: It's possible the BIOS doesn't support it.20:45
an3kwell, it worked on windows 7 so i gess it supports it :)20:45
jhutchinsan3k: Not necessarily.  Manufactureres cheat in Windows.20:46
kostkonan3k, and if the option is greyed out as you say, it shouldn't be there at all actually if you are in vanilla ubuntu, then you might need to enable it first20:46
jhutchinsan3k: My recommendation would be to play with the suspend commands in the console and see what it says.20:46
hitmanhola20:46
an3kkostkon: i checked "enable hibernate" somewhere in the settings20:47
an3kjhutchins: shutdown?20:47
delinquentmeI left $ sudo apt-get upgrade running overnight ... how can I check to see if the process is still upgrading?  I'm guessing something in $ top ?20:47
an3kuntil now i only used console to shutdown or reboot :)20:48
gordonjcpdelinquentme: can't you just look at the terminal to see what it's doing?20:48
dyim_deliquentme.. next time you do that, use screen20:48
an3kdelinquentme: ps aux | grep apt-get20:48
dyim_like this $ screen apt-get upgrade20:49
an3knah20:49
an3kscreen -dmS aptgrade ./mycommand20:49
an3kthat will auto put it in the background and give it the name aptgrade20:49
an3kif you wanna see it screen -r aptgrade. To detach Ctrl+A + Ctrl+D20:50
an3kjhutchins: I have a suspend binary here but no hibernate. Do I have to install a package? :)20:52
kostkonan3k, http://www.howtogeek.com/113923/how-to-re-enable-hibernate-in-ubuntu-12.04/20:56
an3kthx20:56
dadsminecraftok I am trying to run a remote desktop of xubuntu on my windows machine, all the ssh and xterm and bash is working, what is the command for the desktop?20:56
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kostkonan3k, if it hibernates succeesfuly from windows, it should hibernate fine from ubuntu as well20:57
dadsminecraftoh and If I open the file browser thunar It seems I can see directories and files that I dont think I should be able to see with that account, what do I need to do to restrict acess?20:58
an3kok, im going to test it, brb ... hopefully :)20:58
kostkonan3k, good luck...20:59
DarthEaronOkay so im trying to use empathy with facebook on raring 13.04 and it givies me facebook acount requires authorization...ive done alot of research to no anvil...one sight said that it was because of telepathy-gabble and something about a Disco, claming that a bata version fixed the issue but it has not. has anyone ran across this before me?20:59
wyldedadsminecraft: you'll probably need cygwin to run a local xserver if you're looking to run a remote desktop session tunneled through ssh. Easier to use vnc no?21:00
nate7829dadsminecraft, are you speaking of sshfs? and to restrict access to files/folders, you can use chmod and chown21:00
OerHeksDarthEaron, open facebook in your webbrowser, there may be an option in your account to grand access if i recall correctly21:00
gordonjcpdadsminecraft: if you're doing remote desktop stuff look into using VNC21:01
gordonjcpdadsminecraft: but remote desktop doesn't really work very well on any system21:01
gordonjcpdadsminecraft: what are you trying to do?21:02
DarthEaronOerHeks: tried all of that, so far as to delete the security exception in facebook so i get asked to allow it again. nothing seems to work21:02
dadsminecraftok what I am trying to do is set up a minecraft server on my spare computer, and allow some one to be able to remote administer it, plain and simple right?21:03
wyldedadsminecraft: you can do that right through ssh on the commandline. A minecraft server on linux has no gui anyway :)21:04
kostkonan3k, was it a succcess21:04
dadsminecraftand I really dont need remote desktop, I got the cygwin set up on my windows machine more for testing21:04
DarthEaroncould anyone point me to an empathy or telepathy-gabble related channel?21:06
an3kkostkon: nope. first it takes much longer than shutting down and starting up again and secondly it doesn't read thre swap into ram at all. maybe because encrypted filesystem21:06
kostkonan3k, oh you didnt mention that. could be yeash21:06
dadsminecraftok I got that it can be done in ssh alone, but as a newb and trying to understand what I am setting up, in testing I cant even say list directiories or mk directiories, I am totaly lost21:06
kostkonan3k, but hibernate is slow anyways compared to suspend21:07
an3kyes, my fault, sry. For me encryption is per default since the NSA stuff :)21:07
kostkonan3k, right :P21:07
wyldedadsminecraft: ls <--- list directories in the current directory21:08
kostkonan3k, then you need to research it a little bit or just forget about it.21:08
an3kthats true but i was looking for no energy draw. didn't knew hibernate is so much slower on linux than on windows. thanks to a ssd its very fast to boot ubuntu here ... on this Pentium M 1,73 GHz SingleCore without HT and 2 GB RAM :D21:08
wyldedadsminecraft: "ls --help" for a short list of options or "man ls" for the manpage :)21:08
kostkonan3k, generally it shouldn't be. but in your case it is yes.21:10
nate7829dadsminecraft, if you're coming from windows, dir = ls, copy = cp, del = rm, rmdir = rm -r, and your best command is apropos; ie: apropos copy will give you all commands with copy in them21:10
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dadsminecraftok ok so when I do ls I get nothing, does that meen that account has no directories available?21:12
nate7829try ls -a21:12
nate7829you should at least see . and .. (. for current dir, .. for previous directory)21:13
ChauchiteHello! First time here :)21:13
dadsminecraftaw wtf, yes the -a option shows stuff, lol I had been thinking I was like using wrond commans for last hour21:14
nate7829yeah, gotta read the man pages :)21:14
jhutchinsdadsminecraft: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxcommand.org/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/05/20/terminal1.html http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~kevin/unix-tutorial/toc.html21:14
nate7829or if nothing else google something like "ls command tutorial" if you need it broken down for you - most commands have tutorial pages on the net21:15
jhutchinsdadsminecraft: Files beginning with . are hidden from the regular ls command.21:15
jhutchinsdadsminecraft: Also by default in most file managers.21:15
miguel_01Alguien que hable español?, o algun canal donde pueda hacer consultas para instalacion de fedora?21:15
jhutchins!es21:16
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:16
miguel_01gracias!21:16
miguel_01!es21:16
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:16
Csabi33669hi,i want to set up my default file browser back to pc man,so my problem is example when i click on dropxbux submenu "open dropbox location" it will open in the firefox. so can anybody tell me what should i change in /usr/share/application=defaults.list?21:17
dadsminecraftthanks for putting up wit my retarded windows arse, I'll keep reading and be back for the sql help I am sure21:17
nate7829good luck, dadsminecraft21:17
dadsminecraftGood luck I have come to find is not as good as good help and instruction21:18
Csabi33669im using lubuntu 12.0421:18
nate7829dadsminecraft, yes true21:18
dadsminecraftat the same time I'd rather be lucky than good any day21:18
dadsminecraftthanks again guys21:19
nate7829you're welcome dadsminecraft21:19
whowhatTrying to make a script that reads from lines after the script invocation, i.e. "./myscript.sh hello world" can perform operations on "hello" and "world". I'm having trouble locating the way to do this in the bash manpage21:23
nate7829whowhat, you mean being able to read arguments on the command line?21:24
an3kok, where to disable the hibernate menu entry? can't find it anymore :(21:25
whowhatnate7829: I think that's what I mean.21:25
wyldewhowhat: I bet they know over in #bash :) and you could try using the variables $1 $2 etc etc21:25
whowhatwylde thanks!!!!21:26
wyldewhowhat: np :)21:26
an3kwhowhat: $0 is the filename of your script $1 is the first appended text, etc.21:26
whowhatan3k: amazing that did it!21:27
nate7829whowhat, also you can capture all arguments using $@21:27
whowhatnate7829 very cool!21:28
wyldewhowhat: good bash resource --> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide21:28
whowhatwylde: thanks, I'll look into it21:28
Csabi33669hi,i want to set up my default file browser back to pc man,so my problem is example when i click on dropbox menu "open dropbox location" it will open in the firefox. so can anybody tell me what should i change in /usr/share/application=defaults.list?21:29
an3kwhile you would be screwed when you only have a windows notebook with you on a unknown island you can feel happy if its linux21:29
an3kpipe on windows. NOPE21:29
wyldewhowhat: if you're looking to parse commandline options you'll want to look into "case" as well21:29
an3kquickly scripting something together. not on windows. well, its available but you have to manually install it21:30
nate7829an3k, i actually put ubuntu 12.04 lts on my wife's windows 7 netbook haha  and ubuntu works, but the nic sucks, had to setup network manager as a static ip21:30
an3kwhowhat: if so check out a start-stop-script of eg. teamspeak 3 server. there you get an idea how case works21:30
OerHeksCsabi33669, open system sttings >  Details >  Default applications and change it there ?21:30
OerHeksoh i see no filebrowser option, weird21:31
an3knate7829: had win7 on this one and the NB never got even warm. crappy gfx because crappy gfx card. system was ok. now with 13.04 its getting warm and sometimes hot (heavy load). additionally i have nice fancy gfx effects like blur ;) and the best thing at all: LINUX21:31
wyldeCsabi33669: they may have a better idea in #lubuntu21:32
nate7829Csabi33669, you need to modify xdg-open, standby, i'll google21:32
Csabi33669OerHeks, im using lubuntu 12.0421:32
Csabi33669wylde, ok21:35
nate7829Csabi33669, see this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190045421:35
nate7829Csabi33669, I believe that will fix your issue21:36
Csabi33669nate7829, i hope it too :)21:37
nate7829an3k, win7 on her NB makes it get really warm, windows takes forever to do anything, but 12.04 LTS flies. only the NIC support is a bit lacking, but overall it works pretty darn well21:37
Csabi33669nate7829, and thank you,21:37
nate7829Csabi33669, you're welcome ;)21:37
an3knate7829: here everything works fine. except the wifi indicator led which is only on after first suspend but all font short buttons (volume, play, prev, next & media) are recognized by ubuntu. windows only understood volume21:39
an3kno need to use the touchpad, cause the onscreen menus to popup and cause a lag ^^21:39
nate7829an3k, which model number do you have?  I believe hers is a ASUS SeaShell series NB21:40
an3ki even can play counter-strike on here. wasn't possible with win7 bcause it said i have no 3D card.21:41
Franatic89hey21:41
an3kDELL Inspiron 630m ^21:41
nate7829ah yeah, Dell is much more supported than ASUS currently, I think21:41
nate7829hi Franatic8921:41
Franatic89i have avant window navigator21:41
WorkerBuzzAnybody else notice that slashdot removed top comments from their RSS feed?  What's up with that?21:42
Franatic89and i changed the icons but there are also small icons in the icon how can i get them away?21:42
nate7829Franatic89, sorry, i don't know anything about avant window navigator21:42
Franatic89hmm21:42
Franatic89someone here know something about it?21:42
nate7829Franatic89, are you using ubuntu?21:43
Franatic89yes21:43
nate7829Franatic89, what version?21:43
Franatic8912.0421:44
nate7829Franatic89, so you're using nautilus as your file manager?21:44
Franatic89think so21:44
eimis!tab21:47
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.21:47
nate7829Franatic89, i can't find much information on avant window navigator, but i found the main ubuntu documentation page here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AvantWindowNavigator#Configuring_AWN21:48
nate7829Franatic89, maybe that will help you21:48
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Franatic89oh i will try, thanks!21:49
nate7829Franatic89, probably if you uninstall the repo version and install from PPA, the issue will be resolved21:49
nate7829Franatic89, no problem, good luck21:49
eimiszykotick9: testing21:50
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chsadoshey guys, just switched from windows - I am looking for a nice GUI GPG package similar to GPG4Win - any suggestions?22:02
chsadosalso what IRC client you all using?22:02
nielguys I have really broken java and all my dev environments are pissed please help http://askubuntu.com/questions/344859/my-java-is-messed-up-cannot-install-anything-or-its-dependencies-ubuntu-13-0422:02
niellike I am so lost right now been trying to fix for hours22:02
Luyinchsados: hexchat22:02
chsadosill check that out - have you tried irssi?22:02
nielhere is the log http://pastebin.com/3SySD9z122:03
nate7829chsados, xchat is a good GUI client in linux for IRC22:03
nielit is22:03
chsadosoh nice hexchat is based off xchat?  thats what i was using on windows22:03
Luyinchsados: yeah, but I use it only in the rare case of X being broken. hasn't happened for a while, so I don't use it ;)22:03
sircutz I wish to use bash or command shell for precision to change and search files on a usb. Computer has mounted and files are there in file manager but i want to do it manually. Any options?22:03
Luyinbtw, hexchat is xchat-based. so far I couldn't find any great differences.22:03
chsadosyea i think hexchat is what ill be going with22:04
nielanyone know where to get java help I can do anything with java right now its broken22:04
sircutzI just have problems navigating the files in bash!22:04
Luyinsircutz: cd, mv, cp, rm, mkdir, rmdir you might want to look at22:04
chsados#java or try www.bitcoin.com/r/java niel22:04
chsadoswww.reddit.com/r/java sorry lol22:04
Luyinsircutz: find might be useful too22:04
UserErrorchsados , practically the same thing22:04
sircutzOkay Luyin , what tells me a king of list or map of everything ? I thought it was du , did only tell me the current directry?22:05
nate7829chsados, i've used irssi, and it's a solid client for the terminal, especially if you use it in conjunction with screen22:05
sircutzThen I have a target to shoot for.22:05
chsadoseh id like to stay away from terminal22:05
Luyinsircutz: tried ls ?22:05
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Luyinchsados: bad decision :(22:05
nate7829chsados, yeah, i'd go with xchat then imo22:05
chsadoshehe hey now, im just getting my feet wet with linux22:06
sircutzYes , again I am stuck at the current working directory like pwd.  I do not know at this point, but remember one that shoed everyting on the computer?22:06
chsadosits always been a secondary OS i occasionally use - finally said byebye windows22:06
nate7829chsados, a leap of faith that will payoff ;)22:06
Luyinchsados: then plunge yourself into the terminal, no better way to get to know your new OS than that :)22:06
chsadosone more suggestion - what about a torrent client besides deluge - need really good rss implementation22:07
sircutzright now I am at root@partedmagic:/dev#22:07
sircutzls22:07
nate7829chsados, i'd recommend transmission, it's in ubuntu by default22:07
chsadosill check that out - i have seen it on roomates mac and always thought older version of utorrent were superior22:07
nate7829chsados, also, i know you're looking for a GUI encryption program, but if you look at some tutorials using openssl, it's really easy and a good way to get your feet wet with the terminal and encryption22:08
chsadosill make note nate7829 thx22:08
nate7829chsados, np22:08
chsadoswell here i go, last time ill be using windows22:08
chsadoscya!22:08
sircutzi found the problem. /media was it .22:09
sircutzls -l22:09
nielI think ubuntu needs  a reinstall this sucks22:09
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nate7829niel, most problems can be fixed if you run ubuntu in live mode from a CD/DVD22:10
nielno this is bad22:10
nieljava is pissed22:11
nielhttp://pastebin.com/3SySD9z122:11
nieljust look22:11
nate7829niel, have you tried apt-get -f ?22:12
nielnate7829, ive done everything22:13
dtcrshrhello everyone! im on ubuntu 10.04 lts, when I go lspci I have an Intel Corporation gigabit ethernet controller, and on /etc/network/interfaces iv manually setup an eth022:14
dtcrshrbut ifup eth0 gives me an error eth0: error while getting interface flags, no such device22:15
Dr_Willisdtcrshr:  what does 'ifconfig' say about the network card22:15
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l3dneed help getting wifi working22:16
trismniel: what is: apt-cache policy tzdata;22:16
Dr_Willis!wifi22:16
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs22:16
nate7829niel, look at this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79712322:16
nate7829niel, it looks like they had a lot of the same error messages you were getting22:16
dtcrshrnothing, i got only lo on ifconfig22:17
eimisHi. I'm runnin ubuntu base + xfce4-goodies and some other small stuff. Is there a convenient way to select default pulseaudio device besides doing pacmd set-default-sink xxxxxxxx?22:17
dtcrshrbut lshw -C network gives me network DISABLED22:17
dtcrshrDr_Willis:22:17
dsprcanyone got a clue how to resolve these init/upstart permission errors? can not install sshd because of it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6057140/22:17
trismniel: my guess is you disabled -updates22:17
nielhmm22:17
Dr_Willisdtcrshr:  sounds to me like whatever module is needed for that card has not been loaded. Is this a wifi card or a wireless card?22:17
nielI did something22:17
Dr_Willisor wired. ;)22:17
dtcrshrDr_Willis: its the virtual ethernet card of vmware22:18
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nielwhat is Synaptic22:18
niel?22:18
Dr_Willisdtcrshr:  vmware has settings for differnt types of network cards for the system to 'have'  (i may be thinking of vbox). see what NIC the vm is set to use and try some of the others perhaps22:18
Dr_Willis!info synaptic22:19
ubottusynaptic (source: synaptic): Graphical package manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.80~exp2raring1 (raring), package size 2373 kB, installed size 7593 kB22:19
dtcrshrit has only one22:19
dtcrshrthe vmware nic22:19
Dr_Willisniel:  the old standby Packagte manager gui.22:19
Dr_Willisdtcrshr:  no idea then. i basicallyu only use vbox these days.22:19
nielhuh?22:19
Dr_Willis!vmware22:19
ubottuVMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware22:19
trismniel: I wuld check software-properties-gtk before you do anything and make sure -updates is enabled (Recommended Updates) on the Updates tab22:19
nate7829niel, typing apt-get -f in a terminal will fix broken packages as well22:19
Dr_Willisniel:  run it and you will see.22:19
dtcrshrDr_Willis: yeah, on my machine I use vbox, but this vmware its a vmsphere on a huge dell 2950 server with a bunch of other vms22:19
Dr_Willisdtcrshr:  Might be worth asking in #vmware22:20
dtcrshrI mostly dont use ubuntu for production, but its a costumer ubuntu machine were allocating here temporarily22:20
dtcrshrvmware works fine... all the other oses have no trouble. I have 3 debian, 2 centos and a freebsd machine on this server with no hassle22:20
nate7829niel, synaptic is the package manager, to open, type synaptic into the search box in unity (if you're running the unity DE)22:20
dtcrshris there a way to set up the disabled to enabled as I saw on lshw ?22:21
nate7829niel, if you're running gnome or something else, look under administration22:21
Dr_Willisdtcrshr:  you did install the vmware guest addations? i think vmware has those like vbox does22:21
l3dI cant seem to get my wifi drivers installed22:22
wilee-nileesynaptic has to be installed now22:22
l3d Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driver22:22
Dr_Willis!broadcom22:23
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx22:23
dtcrshrDr_Willis: I saw the error, I consulted eth0 on /var/log/dmesg ans saw a line that it was renamed from eth0 to eth122:23
dtcrshrchanged on my /etc/network/interfaces file and im up now22:23
dtcrshrthanks for the attention anyhow22:23
Dr_Willisdtcrshr:   ;)  gotta love it22:23
nielnate7829, no such thing as synaptic22:23
Dr_Willisdtcrshr:  theres some networking file that would let you rename it back to eth0 i recall22:23
Dr_Willisniel:  synaptic is not installed by default any more.22:24
dtcrshrDr_Willis: nah, its fine now. Ill just dump over the sql dbs and the www folder and assemble a new server22:24
nieloh never mind installing22:24
trismsynaptic isn't going to help anything22:24
nielgot synaptic22:25
nielnow what?22:25
nate7829niel, follow instructions to fix broken packages22:25
SN3hi, I would like to setup a private cloud on a single computer for testing applications. Is this possible with UBuntu?22:26
nate7829niel, refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto22:26
nielwell I clicked it lets see if this works22:26
nielE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.22:27
valeriyHi everyone. I need to open network files with the gtkfilechooser, however network folder do not appear in that dialog. I once new the workaround by adding ~/.gvfs folder in favorites, but with new installation there is no .gvfs folder although I can open sambashared file. Can anyone give a clue how to return this .gvfs folder?22:27
nate7829niel, a held package means that a "hold" has been placed on a package, meaning it can't be updated, did you modify your sources.list file?22:28
nielnever22:28
nate7829niel, did you add additional repositories at all?22:28
nielI think like steam and such22:29
trismniel: okay now that that is over, can you please either pastebin: apt-cache policy tzdata; or check software-properties-gtk to see if -updates is enabled on the Updates tab?22:29
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dsprcanyone got a clue how to resolve these init/upstart permission errors? i dont even know where to start and can not install sshd because of them: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6057140/22:30
javier_Hi all! Yesterday I did something wrong in ubuntu's terminal trying to fix the install of a packet and, when I noticed, I had installed a bunch of important packets. I noticed because I was missing things like terminal or ubuntu software center. I install all that stuff, but obviously, it was worst than that and it won't boot now. When I try to start it, says it goes to low-graphic mode, but it won't enter in that mode neither. I have no back up in deja vu22:31
javier_(it takes always forever to make it an a lot of space). I now I'm a mess, but, someone can think about a way to fix it back? Thanks!!!22:31
nielok updated on22:32
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nielthe tjzdata thing is still broken22:32
trismniel: was the box already checked?22:33
nielno22:33
trismniel: if not you need to run: sudo apt-get update; afterwards to refresh the cache22:33
* niel hugs trism 22:34
bytecounterdsprc: does the same happen with apt-get?22:34
nate7829javier_, have you tried booting in recovery mode from grub?22:35
bytecounterjavier_: since your system does not want to boot in low grapic mode you have 2 options: 1) use single user mode 2) get a live cd, and the chroot into your system22:35
dsprcbytecounter: yup. doing the whole dpkg reconfig dance fails as well22:36
bytecounternate7829: is recovery mode the same thing as single user mode? just curious?22:36
javier_nate7829, I've tried that and it doesn't work22:36
javier_(doesnt boot)22:36
bytecounterdsprc: ls -al /lib/init/upstart-job22:37
javier_bytecounter, thanks, I would like to explore that... but, could you give me a short explanatino on what consist both of them?22:37
nate7829bytecounter, I don't think so, I believe it runs with switches like noaspci and other stuff that allows it to boot with config issues22:37
dsprcbytecounter: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root22:38
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nate7829javier_, i'd follow bytecounter's advice then and run a live cd, and google how to chroot (change root) from the CD into your HD so the commands you type will affect the installation of ubuntu on your HD instead of the CD you're booting from22:38
nate7829anyone know if the live cd has a repair feature in it?22:39
bytecounterjavier_: see what nate7829 said: bausically, single user mode and recovery mode are two "emergency" modes. google how to start them. try recovery mode first. then single user (since it gives you lots of power - to either fix your system or destroy it even more). the "chroot" way is more advanced and last resort.22:39
nate7829i don't know if it does or not, i seem to recall something about it22:39
nate7829javier_, take a look at this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair22:40
wyldejavier_: you can boot and log into a tty though? ( ctrl+F2 to switch to tty2). As a last resort you could attempt this http://www.kingletas.com/2012/07/restore-ubuntu-to-the-default-settings-without-re-installing-it.html but make a backup first!22:40
javier_bytecounter, nate7829 , thanks, I'll try those things :)22:40
nate7829javier_, np good luck22:41
dsprcbytecounter: did 'chmod +x' on it. seems to be ok for now. thanks!22:41
javier_nate7829, ah, I've used boot-repair before :) But rather to fix grub. The problem seems now with the display manager22:41
nate7829javier_, hmm what did you do to break it?22:41
javier_nate7829, yes, that's it. I meant an error that says display-manager can't start22:42
wyldejavier_: you may have removed/damaged your display drivers.22:42
javier_wylde, yes, that's it, said something that couldn't find the graphic driver neither22:43
bytecounterdsprc: dsprc :) i was just trying to find out wich one needed what rights22:43
javier_guess that's why I see the message in low graphic mode22:43
nate7829javier_, what type of computer are you using?22:43
javier_but I can't get it to start in low graphic mode anyway22:43
bytecounterdsprc: since this seems to be the main cause: /etc/init.d/ssh: 33: exec: /lib/init/upstart-job: Permission denied22:43
javier_nate7829, I'm in a laptop, ACER aspire without any special graphic card that uses no aditional drivers (no ATI no nVIDIA, just Intel)22:44
wyldejavier_: you can swith to a tty like I said to access the commandline. Look into jockey-text to fix your display drivers perhaps?22:44
bytecounter!recover22:44
ubottuSome tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel22:44
bytecounter!recoverymode22:44
wyldejavier_: ohhhh...nvm jockey then. :/22:44
bytecounterjavier_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode22:45
Ari-Yangjavier_, if you just see intel... then that's all that's available for you :| what do you get when you type this in terminal? lspci | grep VGA22:45
javier_wylde, nate7829 what do you mean jockey text?22:45
daftykinsjockey is the additional drivers program, but since you say intel, jockey won't be of any use22:46
wyldejavier_: it the commanline version of "Additional Drivers" (jockey-gtk etc.)22:46
javier_Ari-Yang, oh, I'm in a different laptop, I haven't been able to boot mine, but I might enter in tty mode to check it22:46
javier_ah, no, then there is nothing special about jockey then. But I guess that should make it easier22:46
bytecounterjavier_: do you know what you did yesterday?22:47
bytecounterjavier_: what did you do? which files did you edit/remove/create?22:47
nate7829javier_, type sudo lspci | grep -i graphics into a terminal and note the type of hardware for your display driver (you either have to be on the computer in question or be able to connect to it via ssh)22:48
javier_bytecounter, yes, and I'm surprised. A packet (a video player) didn't install properly. Then I runned the command "sudo apt-get install -f", to fix it. Someone, it told me he was going to uninstall a bunch of packet and I had already pressed "yes" without paying attention. Was totally my fault for too much confidence. Then, everything was uninstalled22:49
daftykinsjavier_: can you type the commands here that you ran then?22:50
bytecounterjavier_: hm, as far is i know you can get some kind of list of the packages your removed - i am sure ther is an aptlog that tells yu what you remove22:50
daftykinsjust taking his history would be interesting too22:50
javier_bytecounter, that's interesting, I could just reinstall all those22:51
bytecounterjavier_: your history is stored in ~/.bash_history22:51
javier_I see22:51
bytecounterjavier_: that's waht i want to suggest - as i understood, your system worked before, so you just want to go back to the previous state22:51
javier_bytecounter, so, maybe, enter the hard drive using a boot cd, then use chroot to reinstall what is written there?22:51
javier_bytecounter, yes, that's it22:52
bytecounterthe best thing to do that is to find the packets you removed and to reinstall them22:52
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nate7829javier_, you can also type sudo dpkg --get-selections to see a list of packages that are installed and de-installed22:52
bytecounternate7829: well, he needs to find out which ones he removed22:52
bytecounterjavier_: um, how far can you boot?22:53
nate7829/var/log/apt/history.log can be accessed for that22:53
bytecounterjavier_: did you try a virtual terminal? ctrl+alt+f for example22:53
javier_bytecounter, i think I might be able to enter tty22:53
bytecounterjavier_: if you can enter tty then there is no need for live cds and chroot and all that22:53
javier_bytecounter, I remember there was an option to enter in terminal, which I didn't used because I wouldn't know what to do22:54
javier_but I could try to enter there and eventually try what we are talking22:54
javier_bytecounter, yes, I thought that, that would be great22:54
javier_bytecounter, so, I will try that22:54
javier_see what's in bash_history and try to reinstall things22:54
javier_bytecounter, nate7829 I'm also thinking, what I uninstalled must be something basic everyone must have, and I wonder if there is some command to fix or repair this kind of things, like, basics22:55
SN3damn, Juju is magic!22:55
bytecounterjavier_: if you had removed something basic, your system would not boot at all22:56
javier_bytecounter, you are right, not basic maybe22:56
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wyldejavier_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core then22:57
wyldesudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg perhaps?22:57
bytecounterjavier_: the computer you broke, is it connected to internet?22:57
nate7829javier_, take a look at /var/log/apt/ directory as well; just because you typed something on the command line, doesn't mean that is the only thing that was installed/uninstalled - but the log file for apt will have a history of any other dependencies that were removed automatically22:57
javier_bytecounter, oh, that could be a problem. I don't know, I have to try. If I also uninstalled accidentally something more and can't connect, I will have to try the livecd way22:57
bytecounterjavier_: is the computer you broke a laptop or a desktop computer?22:58
bytecounterjavier_: usually, do you use wireless or cable to connect it to the internet?22:59
javier_bytecounter, nate7829 I think what I should do is to see what I find in those directories, see if there is internet and try to reinstall what I find (hopefully). Otherwise, I will tell you what else if you are still here or google it a bit more with the new I know now. Sounds right? And thanks for your help :)23:00
nate7829javier_, most times you can connect to the internet via the terminal if you plug your computer directly into a modem/router and use sudo dhcpcd [network interface] ie: sudo dhcpcd eth023:00
nate7829after bringing it "up" using sudo ifconfig eth0 up that is23:00
javier_nate7829, oh, that's very useful. Might use it...23:01
nate7829anyways i gotta get running23:01
bytecounterjavier_: i'll go to bed now anyway... i think nate7829 and wylde are taking good care of you :) - good luck23:01
javier_nate7829, sure, thanks for your help23:01
nate7829you're in good hands with bytecounter, javier_23:01
bytecounterahaha23:01
javier_bytecounter, nate7829 hahahahha23:01
nate7829lol23:01
javier_nate7829, bytecounter I undestand, don't worry and appreciate your help23:02
nate7829ok javier_ good luck23:02
javier_thanks23:02
nate7829bye bytecounter, javier_23:02
nate7829you're welcome23:02
bytecounternate7829: bye23:02
danielcgIs this channel for all *buntu distros or /only/ Ubuntu?23:08
OerHekshi danielcg, Ubuntu only, no derivates.23:09
danielcgOk, thank you23:09
OerHeksmost derivates have a channel here on #freenode too.23:10
reisiodanielcg: only "official" Ubuntu distros23:10
reisiowhich is like three or four or five23:10
reisioUbuntu, Lubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu23:11
reisioKylin, although I doubt many will want english support for Kylin23:11
reisiodanielcg: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/derivatives23:12
reisioI missed Ubuntu Studio, Mythbuntu, and apparently there's an Ubuntu GNOME23:12
MACscrhmm, why is my ubuntu server trying to resolve my hostname every time i use the sudo command?23:13
tgm4883OerHeks, 'Flavors'23:13
artcurmudgeonare there any applications that use vnc to connect that are not vnc? Trying to reverse engineer a ubuntu desktop 9.10 and I can connect to it via vnc from windows, but i cant find any configuration files.23:14
jrib!9.10 | artcurmudgeon23:15
ubottuartcurmudgeon: Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) was the eleventh release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 29th 2011, see http://ubottu.com/y/karmic for details.23:15
artcurmudgeonI have tried looking for .vnc directories and greping /var/log/auth.log and ps-ef |grep vnc23:15
jribartcurmudgeon: that release is very very old and hasn't been supported for a long time23:16
gordonjcpartcurmudgeon: what do you mean "reverse engineer"?23:16
artcurmudgeonI know, I just had this dropped in my lap and I am beating a dent in my desk, and the person who built it is long gone. that is why I stuck my head in here23:16
gordonjcpand are you sure that means what you think it means?23:16
gordonjcpartcurmudgeon: what exactly are you trying to do?23:17
artcurmudgeonI have to figure out what applications are running on this, and possibly duplicate in on a 12.04lts box23:17
gordonjcpartcurmudgeon: ask the person that uses it?23:18
artcurmudgeonas I said the person who uses it and support it are long gone.23:18
darkangelis General 3.8 better then 3.2?23:18
artcurmudgeonand no docs to boot.23:18
darkangelKernel not general sorry23:19
gordonjcpartcurmudgeon: then does it matter what it does?23:19
jribartcurmudgeon: why do you care about this system?  Put a supported release on it23:19
wyldeartcurmudgeon: you can "dpkg -l | grep ii > installed-packages.txt"23:19
artcurmudgeonjrib: I dont, my boss does. HE is convinced that it was perfect23:19
artcurmudgeonwylde: thank you23:19
jribartcurmudgeon: make an image of the drive, and upgrade to 10.04 and then 12.0423:20
wyldethat will list every installed package in a text file23:20
gordonjcpartcurmudgeon: perfect for what?23:20
gordonjcpartcurmudgeon: *someone* must know what it runs and why23:20
jribthe guy that left might :P23:20
gordonjcpartcurmudgeon: and if they don't, it's probably not really worth putting any effort into23:20
artcurmudgeongordonjcp: rate of turn over was rather high23:20
gordonjcpartcurmudgeon: it's probably worth backing up /home if nothing else23:21
gordonjcpartcurmudgeon: what does your boss think it was perfect for?23:21
artcurmudgeongordonjcp: it was a player a display.  someone decided to update a security ssl and it caused it to appear on a screen and it would have to be the screen that is not accessible via vnc23:22
artcurmudgeonopps player for a display23:23
gordonjcpartcurmudgeon: well, do what wylde said and see if you can disentangle anything from that23:23
Javier12345hi23:23
sassaHi lads, I have searched and searched but cant find it anywhere of how to mount a ftp connection with ssl23:23
artcurmudgeongordonjcp: I had a similar plan because the boss wants to put the player in every office we have...go  figure...and I dont want to support them...23:24
artcurmudgeonthank you everyone for your help23:24
sassacurlftpfs -o ssl -o sll_control -o no_verify_hostname -d user:password@serverip:port /mnt/directory/23:24
sassathis is as far as I have came23:24
Javier12345someine can help me with how to complement the command dkgp --get-selections to give me the list in parta? its too long and only can read the last part (in tty mode, no scrolling)23:25
sassaanyone got a clue how to go on from this?23:25
arctanxJavier12345: add " | more" to the end23:26
Javier12345arctanx: great!23:26
wyldeJavier12345: or " | less"23:26
Javier12345wylde: :) good to know23:27
wylde:)23:28
the_roots_no i did not23:29
bl4ckdu5tHow can I install Microsoft core fonts like Trebuchet, Maiandra, Papyrus, chiller, jokerman e.t.c on my Ubuntu23:35
daftykinsbl4ckdu5t: via the package - think it used to be called msttcorefonts23:36
daftykinsunless they're not in that23:36
daftykinsin which case no idea23:36
wyldebl4ckdu5t: they are included with a number of other things in the ubuntu-restricted-extras package23:38
bl4ckdu5twylde: How can I get to those?23:38
Gaming4JCHello, I am trying to install Seeks (http://archive.sileht.net/seeks/) on Ubuntu Precise, but it says The following packages have unmet dependencies: seeks : Depends: libtokyocabinet9 (>= 1.4.47) but it is not installable23:39
Gaming4JCany ideas on where I can get this package? I see we have tokyocabinet, but not that libtokyocabinet9 specifically.23:39
wyldebl4ckdu5t: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" that will install mscorefonts as well as flash and a few other things23:39
wylde!ubuntu-restricted-extras23:39
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:39
bl4ckdu5tI just did a "apt-cache search" for msttcorefonts and I found the ttf-mscorefont-installer but I am doubting if it will have all the fonts I need b'cos I once read from an article on the web that it contains just few fonts23:39
wyldebl4ckdu5t: that may very well be the case. That package gets pulled in as well as others as dependencies of the ubuntu-restricted-extras package23:40
daftykinsbl4ckdu5t: ah well, why would you need MS fonts anyway 0o23:43
bl4ckdu5tI really love Trebuchet and I will like to continue using it for some of my designs and write-ups23:44
wyldebl4ckdu5t: If I recall correctly that font is included.23:44
bl4ckdu5tok then, thanks23:46
Gaming4JCbl4ckdu5t: Also wondering why you need MSFonts, likely the free alternatives will work nicely. Regardless this should help (bottom of post for related fonts particularly) http://www.unixmen.com/install-more-fonts-for-ubuntudebian/23:46
FastCodeI have a really weird problem with clinfo and optimus.when running without optirun it complains about libOpenCL.so.1, and when running with optirun it shows intel integrated graphics.what could be wrong?23:47
* Gaming4JC is still waiting on a libtokyocabinet9 package23:47
bl4ckdu5tok I will check that out23:48
FastCodehere's what i have installed and what clinfo says:http://paste.debian.net/39162/23:50
toddaaroanyone around know what the deal is with ivy bridge integrated gpus? my computer is totally messed up because it has one and ubuntu insists on making it "primary" even though the bios has it as disabled as possible23:51
FastCodeand I have reinstalled(with --purge) almost all packages I could think of.23:51
toddaarohalfway through boot it swaps over to the intel graphics even if a display isn't plugged into it23:51
toddaaroI've tried every permutation on drivers I can, blacklisting, etc.23:52
toddaaroI want the machine to act like the iGPU does not exist23:52
FastCodetoddaaro: I'd try removing xserver-xorg-video-intel and see if anything changes23:52
toddaaroFastCode: ok, will that remove all the intel drivers?23:52
FastCodenot the drivers, only userspace23:53
FastCodeis it an optimus setup?23:53
toddaarono, i7-3770k23:53
FastCodeis it a laptop or not?23:53
toddaarodesktop, just trying to get the normal discrete amd card working23:53
FastCodethen, this should do23:54
toddaarook I'll try it then, thanks23:54
FastCodemake sure you have necessary amd drivers installed before doing this23:54
FastCodeyou may completely lose graphics and end up with a tty23:55
FastCodeor worse23:55
toddaaroFastCode: do I need to rebuild the init image for this?23:55
FastCodeI haven't had an amd card for a long time, not sure23:56
FastCodethis is what happens when an intel and nvidia mess up.23:56
karen_does anyone know what redbox-desktop is?23:56
FastCodeanyone have any ideas about my opencl issue? http://paste.debian.net/39162/23:57
Gaming4JC!package redbox-desktop | karen_23:59
Gaming4JC!packages redbox-desktop | karen_23:59
Gaming4JCubottu fails23:59
wilee-nileekaren_, From a quick search it appears to be the netflix desktop http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/ehoover_compholio_netflix/precise/main/base/redbox-desktop23:59
Gaming4JCanyway karen_ it's in the repository "Redbox Desktop provides a convient tool that downloads and installs all of the components necessary to run Redbox under Wine."23:59

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