[00:00] <TsarObomba> what happened to xinput_calibrator pkg in recent versions
[00:00] <oppositescopez> (remember were trying to fix my apt-get here)
[00:00] <TsarObomba> help page on wiki says it was there in 12.04
[00:00] <TsarObomba> and there is a ppa for earlier versions
[00:00] <TsarObomba> i kinda need it
[00:00] <KI7MT> oppositescopez,  sudo apt-add-repository --remove ppa:<NAME-OF-PACKAGE>-ppa/ppa
[00:01] <TsarObomba> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/xinput_calibrator.1.html
[00:01] <salamandre43025> Good morning all
[00:01] <TsarObomba> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen
[00:01] <oppositescopez> there i got it
[00:01] <Fieldy> hello, how do I configure a service to start at boot?
[00:01] <CuRb> here it's 02:02:25 a.m.
[00:01] <KI7MT> with rc.d
[00:02] <oppositescopez> just had to close the 7 "chrome cant be ran as root" errors i get every time i use an apt-get ...
[00:02] <TsarObomba> fieldy the gentoo master cant figure out ubuntu? :P
[00:02] <TsarObomba> jp
[00:02] <Icehawk78> I'm having an issue with a desktop installation of 12.04 not detecting my CD/DVD drive. I can press the eject button, and it opens without issue, but I can't find anything to read it - there's no /dev/scd, /dev/cdrom, /dev/dvd, or anything similar, and lshw -C disk only shows my hard drives.
[00:02] <oppositescopez> why its trying to run scrome as root?, no clue...
[00:02] <Fieldy> lots of different init/service systems out there, i'm not familiar
[00:02] <TsarObomba> I see no more fieldysnuts, must have been too many jokes
[00:02] <oppositescopez> *chrome
[00:02] <TsarObomba> im messing with you
[00:02] <Fieldy> no /etc/rc.d
[00:03] <TsarObomba> right replace rc.d with init.d
[00:03] <TsarObomba> we dont use gentoos init daemon
[00:03] <salamandre43025> I need help with 12.04LTS. Upgraded to 319 nvidia driver, ran the 36 latest updates and now I can't even get to the splash screen after grub
[00:03] <TsarObomba> its a debian like system
[00:03] <Fieldy> okay, he said "with rc.d" ;p
[00:03] <KI7MT> Boot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[00:03] <Fieldy> KI7MT: thanks
[00:04] <TsarObomba> Fieldy: whoever it was was wrong
[00:04] <TsarObomba> oh
[00:04] <TsarObomba> on boot
[00:04] <oppositescopez> so what do i do with this purge program..?
[00:04] <Ari-Yang> salamandre43025, how and where did you get the update for your driver?
[00:04] <Ari-Yang> oppositescopez, you mean sudo aptitude purge target program
[00:04] <TsarObomba> Fieldy: add it used update-rc.d
[00:04] <Ari-Yang> like sudo aptitude purge VIM
[00:04] <TsarObomba> and it adds it to run levels
[00:05] <TsarObomba> if its already in init.d
[00:05] <TsarObomba> you'll see via that wiki page
[00:05] <Fieldy> ah with update-rc.d i mistook "rc.d" to mean /etc/rc.d, my bad. testing now
[00:05] <oppositescopez> btw i cant apt-get remove anything, doesnt work.
[00:05] <nabblet> oppositescopez: so your prblem is fixed now
[00:05] <TsarObomba> no prob
[00:05] <nabblet> ?
[00:05] <TsarObomba> i had to do the same making a znc daemon myself by scratch
[00:05] <nabblet> oppositescopez: ah ok - forget my question ;)
[00:05] <oppositescopez> uhh, what program am i targerting here?
[00:06] <nabblet> oppositescopez: sudo apt-get remove <package>
[00:06] <salamandre43025> Ari-Yang: Additional drivers> [recommended]. I was sent there by Steam
[00:06] <TsarObomba> im half way drunk and felt like messing with you since i remember you from my deep dark gentoo days
[00:06] <nabblet> oppositescopez: the sudo is important
[00:06] <TsarObomba> before I found kubuntu and a desktop that works without issue
[00:06] <oppositescopez> so im purging vim?
[00:06] <TsarObomba> heck it even poiwers my buildbox and hudson/jenkins
[00:06] <oppositescopez> i know
[00:07] <Ari-Yang> salamandre43025, so you got drivers form nvidia's site? tbh I don't think that was a good idea... you should only install drivers form ubuntu's official repos or drivers that are trusted...
[00:07] <nabblet> oppositescopez: why do you want to purge vim
[00:07] <oppositescopez> i know how sudo works ^-^
[00:07] <nabblet> ?
[00:07] <oppositescopez> idk
[00:07] <Ari-Yang> the problem might be a video driver problem, salamandre43025
[00:07] <oppositescopez> thats what they said
[00:07] <nabblet> oppositescopez: lol
[00:07] <nabblet> oppositescopez: does apt-get update work now?
[00:07] <jrib> oppositescopez: uh, you never answered my question from before
[00:07] <TsarObomba> is there a way to get apt to stop telling me about certain packages no longer being required
[00:07] <salamandre43025> Can I fix it from the recovery mode root console?
[00:07] <oppositescopez> omg havent done it yet X.X and hey jrib :D
[00:08] <TsarObomba> i run a liquorix kernel, and since installing, it wants me to autoremove the damn stock kernel. and i wanna keep it and not see the messages
[00:08] <TsarObomba> that would be awesome
[00:08] <Ari-Yang> salamandre43025, you should... like be able to run any commands to remove the driver
[00:08] <CuRb> chrome ? whois so stupid to use it ? https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/proprietary-sabotage.html
[00:08] <Ari-Yang> and install the one from ubuuntu's repos, salamandre43025
[00:08] <oppositescopez> the responce -.- This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.
[00:09] <oppositescopez> thats what it said
[00:09] <oppositescopez> i think i did something wrong o.0
[00:09] <Dylan> I cant talk
[00:09] <Dylan> wait
[00:09] <Dylan> now i can
[00:09] <Dylan> ok
[00:09] <FloodBot1> Dylan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:09] <Dylan> Uh ok
[00:09] <Dylan> ...
[00:09] <CuRb> Microsoft informs the NSA of bugs in Windows before fixing them For instance, it regards the inclusion of proprietary Flash Player (which has a surveillance feature and DRM) in Chrome as a good thing. Chrome is a proprietary browser with a universal back door.
[00:10] <oppositescopez> oh whoops spelled something wrong'
[00:10] <jrib> CuRb: this channel is for support not random comments about the NSA
[00:10] <salamandre43025> Ari-Yang: It's from the repos. I have another issue, whenever I use jockey-text, I get D-BUS error
[00:10] <Ari-Yang> salamandre43025, sorry, I'm not sure :V... maybe somebody else will get to you
[00:10] <CuRb> and infact it refers to Chrome
[00:10] <Dylan> I have a question, for some reason I keep getting logged out. I click on something then screen goes black then it goes to the ubuntu screen.. Please help me
[00:10] <CuRb> read the page https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/proprietary-sabotage.html
[00:11] <jrib> CuRb: stop.
[00:11] <oppositescopez> ok i purged (and it came along with the 7 chrome cant be ran as roots)
[00:11] <Dylan> Me?
[00:11] <CuRb> is ubuntu your own channel ?
[00:12] <oppositescopez> my results http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094875/
[00:13] <CuRb> oppositescopez please read https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/proprietary-sabotage.html
[00:13] <ChogyDan> !guidelines > CuRb
[00:13] <oppositescopez> what.. curb. why o.0
[00:15] <jrib> CuRb: this channel is for support.  If you're not asking a support question or answering one, please keep quiet. Other discussion takes place in #ubuntu-offtopic.  You can discuss things like the NSA and gnu's stance on chrome there (i.e., not here).
[00:15] <TsarObomba> jrib: you see my question?
[00:15] <TsarObomba> you seem to be the only expert
[00:15] <CuRb> here how to run chrome as root https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743565
[00:15] <TsarObomba> i would think i would need to set apt to blacklist those packages from thinking i can remove trhem
[00:15] <oppositescopez> i dont want to run chrome as root
[00:15] <qin> !ot | CuRb is for general spam
[00:15] <oppositescopez> thats an error
[00:15] <jrib> TsarObomba: I don't know what the liquorix kernel is. Do you obtain it through APT?
[00:16] <TsarObomba> yup
[00:16] <TsarObomba> a mirror
[00:16] <oppositescopez> so did people give up on helping me?
[00:16] <ChogyDan> oppositescopez: are you running Ubuntu or debian?
[00:16] <TsarObomba> its a zen kernel
[00:16] <jrib> CuRb: why are you linking to that.  No one wants or needs to run chrome as root.
[00:16] <oppositescopez> lubuntu?
[00:16] <TsarObomba> that a developer packages into "liquporix"
[00:16] <TsarObomba> thats not the issue
[00:16] <TsarObomba> the issue is, you install a kernel different than the base kernel and apt wants to remove the base kernel
[00:16] <TsarObomba> and i WANT to keep it
[00:16] <CuRb> a user said that was not possible to run chrome as root; i replied that is possible to do it https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743565
[00:16] <TsarObomba> ya know, for safe keeping :)
[00:17] <jrib> TsarObomba: what does « apt-cache show package-that-give-you-liquporix » return to you?  Please stop using enter as punctuation
[00:17] <oppositescopez> oh
[00:17] <oppositescopez> well i get that error any time u use any apt-get and any support for help would be appreciated..
[00:17] <jrib> CuRb: address that to whomever asked the question in the future.   And please advise them that it's a terrible idea.
[00:17] <jrib> oppositescopez: you still haven't answered my question (3rd time I've asked you about it now)
[00:18] <TsarObomba> jrib: http://slexy.org/view/s2EehfObxD
[00:18] <CuRb> it's written on the same page of ubuntuforum
[00:18] <CuRb> i puntualized only that is possible
[00:18] <oppositescopez> which question?
[00:18] <TsarObomba> jrib: but the issue isnt the new kernel. any new kernel will have the same effect, when you run apt-get afterwards it will constantly remind you you can remove the stock kernel
[00:18] <TsarObomba> It also does that with stock mainline-ppa kernels
[00:18] <jrib> TsarObomba: pastebin input and output your are referencing
[00:18] <CuRb> anything can run as root; root is always to his own risk
[00:19] <jrib> CuRb: ok
[00:19] <TsarObomba> the input can be apt-get install anything
[00:19] <jrib> TsarObomba: that's fine, pick some anything and pastebin
[00:19] <ChogyDan> TsarObomba: make sure you have the linux-generic package install, that will keep the latest stock kernel
[00:19] <TsarObomba> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[00:19] <dob> ip -6 route add ::/0 via fe80::1 src 2a01:xxx:190:xxx::2 dev eth0 metric 0 works in console, but not as up - script in interfaces config. Somebody some idea????
[00:19] <TsarObomba>   linux-headers-3.8.0-19 linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic linux-image-extra-3.8.0-19-generic
[00:19] <TsarObomba> chocolatemousse: thats NOT my point
[00:19] <TsarObomba> woops
[00:19] <TsarObomba> ChogyDan: ^
[00:20] <jrib> TsarObomba: why is ChogyDan's suggestion not valid for you?
[00:20] <TsarObomba> my point is stopping it from giving me that damn message its removable, i know it is
[00:20] <SupaYoshii> Heya anyone, can someone tell me how to PERMALITLY change my Wifi Mac address?
[00:20] <TsarObomba> jrib: because i know its installed, i want it installed. I njust dont want apt to tell me its valid to be rempoved
[00:20] <TsarObomba> ffs, do you guys not get it?
[00:20] <oppositescopez> jrib: what question?
[00:20] <qin> TsarObomba: apt-get autoremove ?
[00:20] <SupaYoshii> I've a android phone... and it keeps changing its WIFI MAC after I turn on and off wifi....
[00:20] <ChogyDan> TsarObomba: the message is happening because you have a later version stock kernel, and the one that it is suggesting to remove is outdated
[00:20] <TsarObomba> qin: thatsd what im looking to avoid
[00:20] <TsarObomba> ....
[00:20] <SupaYoshii> I really wonder whats going on, I already installed another rom but same issue remains.!
[00:21]  * TsarObomba pulls another tooth
[00:21] <nabblet> oppositescopez: try  apt-get reinstall syslinux-themes-debian
[00:21] <CuRb> RTFM
[00:21] <TsarObomba> ChogyDan: ofc
[00:21] <jrib> TsarObomba: install it then.  It's telling you that because the package was installed as a dependency and not manually by you.  You can either install it or use apt-mark.  Or (probably best) install the meta-package ChogyDan referred to
[00:21] <oppositescopez> ok one sec
[00:21] <TsarObomba> ChogyDan: im looking to STOP that msg
[00:21] <TsarObomba> jrib: it is installed
[00:21] <TsarObomba> jesus christ
[00:21] <nabblet> oppositescopez: oh, forget that. use purge
[00:21] <TsarObomba> you people are not getting
[00:21] <jrib> TsarObomba: read the rest of my sentence
[00:21] <TsarObomba> omg
[00:21] <oppositescopez> purge it?
[00:21] <nabblet> oppositescopez: sudo apt-get purge syslinux-themes-debian
[00:21] <oppositescopez> ok
[00:21] <jrib> TsarObomba: It's telling you that because the package was installed as a dependency and not manually by you.  You can either install it or use apt-mark.  Or (probably best) install the meta-package ChogyDan referred to
[00:21] <nabblet> oppositescopez: yes
[00:21] <oppositescopez> if you say so
[00:22] <jrib> oppositescopez: what package provides that file you get in your error?
[00:22] <TsarObomba> linux-generic is installed, and has been
[00:22] <TsarObomba> it has been since i installed
[00:22] <nabblet> jrib: syslinux-themes-debian that's the troublemaker
[00:22] <nabblet> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094875/
[00:22] <TsarObomba> im about to ask debian since you guys seem clueless wohen it comes to complex issues
[00:23] <nabblet> jrib: that's for oppositescopez problem
[00:23] <salamandre43025> Can I configure xorg drivers with jockey-text in the recovery mode root console prompt?
[00:23] <TsarObomba> this is linux, you can do just about anything with it
[00:23] <jrib> TsarObomba: you aren't listening.
[00:23] <oppositescopez> result http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094897/
[00:23] <TsarObomba> salamandre43025: yes
[00:23] <TsarObomba> jrib: sure i am
[00:23] <jrib> TsarObomba: what package wants to be removed?
[00:23] <TsarObomba> jrib: you told me to use the other guys siggestion of linux-image-generic
[00:23] <TsarObomba> which is ALREADY install
[00:23] <jrib> TsarObomba: nope
[00:23] <dob> no ideas about the network config
[00:24] <ChogyDan> TsarObomba: do you just want the kernels to keep adding, and never remove?  It's not clear
[00:24] <TsarObomba> jrib: i pasted the packages it wants to remove via autoremove above
[00:24] <dob> seems to be impossible to set the default outgoing ip address
[00:24] <jrib> TsarObomba: first of all, you keep changing package names.  Which makes it hard to help you. We need to be clear about the packages involved.
[00:24] <jrib> !who | oppositescopez
[00:24] <TsarObomba> ChogyDan: i dont care WHAT it does, as long as it stoips annoying me when running apt-=get about the stock kernel being remobavle because i have a different kernel installed
[00:24] <jrib> oppositescopez: dpkg -S /usr/share/themes/lfs-black-base-blue/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
[00:24] <salamandre43025> TsarObama: how do I do this and not get a "cannot access d-bus module" error?
[00:25] <TsarObomba> changing package names? wtgf you talking about?
[00:25] <TsarObomba> ChogyDan recommended me install linux-image-generic
[00:25] <TsarObomba> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[00:25] <TsarObomba>   linux-headers-3.8.0-19 linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic linux-image-extra-3.8.0-19-generic
[00:25] <jrib> TsarObomba: first you specified you had linux-generic now you say linux-image-generic.
[00:25] <TsarObomba> that clue you in again?
[00:25] <TsarObomba> there is no linux-generic afaik
[00:25] <oppositescopez> jrib: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/share/themes/lfs-black-base-blue/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
[00:25] <jrib> TsarObomba: in the future please use a pastebin instead of pasting to the channel
[00:25] <TsarObomba> its linux-image-generic.
[00:26] <TsarObomba> it was a oneline paste
[00:26] <TsarObomba> ffs
[00:26] <TsarObomba> People here are snobs
[00:26] <nabblet> oppositescopez: did you ever mess with the themes?
[00:26] <TsarObomba> jrib: the point is, stopping apt from telling me that message
[00:26] <TsarObomba> that is ALL i want
[00:26] <jrib> TsarObomba: this is a large channel. We ask that you use a pastebin for pastes and not to use enter as punctuation
[00:26] <TsarObomba> and i know that is possible somehow
[00:26] <TsarObomba> ya ya ya
[00:27] <jrib> TsarObomba: apt-cache depends linux-image-generic returns what for you?
[00:27] <oppositescopez> i think that the one that i ame using is a custom made one @nabblet
[00:27] <TsarObomba> its gonna return those pakcages that i just pasted
[00:27] <TsarObomba> ofc it is
[00:27] <salamandre43025> ! Tab
[00:27] <jrib> TsarObomba: if you want to theorize instead of just running a command and pasting output, then I can't help you.
[00:27] <TsarObomba> jrib:  apt-cache depends linux-image-generic
[00:27] <TsarObomba> told you
[00:28] <jrib> TsarObomba: good luck with your issue.
[00:28] <ChogyDan> :)
[00:28] <TsarObomba> what?
[00:28] <TsarObomba> you are giving up because i gave YOU the answer you are looking for?
[00:28] <TsarObomba> if so....
[00:28] <jrib> TsarObomba: you got no output from apt-cache depends linux-image-generic?
[00:29] <oppositescopez> nabblet: im pretty sure it was made by a friend
[00:29] <TsarObomba> iu just pasztebined it
[00:29] <nabblet> oppositescopez: well, apt-get complains that something is wrong with one of the themes
[00:29] <TsarObomba> woopos\
[00:29] <nabblet> oppositescopez: that's how i understand it
[00:29] <oppositescopez> i tried to use a different theme
[00:29] <TsarObomba> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094915/
[00:29] <oppositescopez> even default
[00:29] <TsarObomba> iu meant to copy and paste and pasted the wrong thing
[00:29] <oppositescopez> i still got the error about chrome atleatst.
[00:30] <nabblet> oppositescopez: since i don't find any related errors on google, it must be something "home grown"
[00:30] <oppositescopez> im gonna take a complete guess and assume it has something to do with dpkg considering it mentions it?
[00:30] <oppositescopez> yeah i have never turned to forums for advise, ive googled for weeks
[00:30] <ChogyDan> TsarObomba: so you have both -31 and -19 installed.  Do you want both?  Do you want later versions?  Do you want to remove the earlier versions, or have the kernels just pile up?  Or would you rather just the latest?
[00:31] <jrib> oppositescopez: you need to address whoever it is you are talking to
[00:31] <qin> TsarObomba: autoremove and install kernel lower version to your likes, you may want to dist-upgrade too
[00:31] <jrib> TsarObomba: do you see the versions differ?
[00:31] <damien> acc add jabber you@gmail.com
[00:31] <damien> definitely didnt work lol
[00:31] <TsarObomba> ChogyDan: i dont care WHAT ubuntu repo kernel versions are installed. Ill keep them all and continue to update, it leavres behind old versions by default. I just want the messages in apt to stop since i installed a non stock kernel from a non standard repo
[00:31] <TsarObomba> That is ALL
[00:32] <oppositescopez> ok nabblet: it was probably a friend ("he also sabatoged some stuff, so it may have been intentional, but im no longer in contact with him")
[00:32] <TsarObomba> And that IS possible
[00:32] <jrib> TsarObomba: as I said before, explicitly install the versions yourself or use apt-mark
[00:32] <TsarObomba> qin: you have no idea my friend
[00:32] <TsarObomba> jrib: the versiuons are installed
[00:32] <ChogyDan> TsarObomba: the message has absolutely nothing to do with the non-stock kernel
[00:32] <jrib> TsarObomba: yes, automatically as depnedncies though.
[00:32] <TsarObomba> ITs telling me to remove them as they are not needed
[00:32] <TsarObomba> sigh
[00:33] <TsarObomba> so, usuage of apt-mark?
[00:33] <TsarObomba> And it does, what?
[00:33] <nabblet> oppositescopez: oppositescopez
[00:33]  * TsarObomba googles
[00:33] <nabblet> oppositescopez: sorry, this might be related http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2120813
[00:33] <goodeness> hello
[00:33] <TsarObomba> apt-mark hold?
[00:33] <TsarObomba> and have it hold the meta?
[00:33] <jrib> TsarObomba: « apt-mark showauto | grep linux-image » for starters.  There may also be a way to tell apt to never tell you about unused packages ever again, but I don't know offhand and I would advise not turning that off, personally.
[00:33] <nabblet> oppositescopez: they also have a problem with ERROR:chrome_browser_main_extra_parts_gtk.cc(51)] Startup refusing to run as root.
[00:34] <jrib> oppositescopez: dpkg -S /usr/share/themes/lfs-black-base-blue/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
[00:34] <goodeness> have a total noob question about installing slic3r if anyone gets a second
[00:34] <TsarObomba> jrib: i just did apt-mark hold on both meta packages, still getting the messages
[00:34] <TsarObomba> do i need an update first?
[00:34] <jrib> TsarObomba: ok, but I didn't say to do that
[00:35] <TsarObomba> TsarObomba: you said use apt-mark
[00:35] <jrib> TsarObomba: correct.  But why do "hold"?+
[00:35] <TsarObomba> jrib: i dont want it to tell me about all unused packages ever again
[00:35] <TsarObomba> thats stupid
[00:35] <TsarObomba> jrib: because it seemed like the right command
[00:36] <jrib> TsarObomba: I think you want "manual" to indicate that that package is installed manually by you
[00:36] <TsarObomba> because from my googling it would make it not appear in the autoremoveable list
[00:36] <Anonynimity> when will ubuntu 14.04 be released?
[00:36] <TsarObomba> jrib: apt-mark showauto | grep linux-image
[00:36] <TsarObomba> woop[ps
[00:36] <TsarObomba> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094940/
[00:36] <IdleOne> Anonynimity: april 2014
[00:37] <Ben64> Anonynimity: the version number has the date in it... 14.04 = 2014.04 = what IdleOne just said
[00:37] <jrib> TsarObomba: good, that makes it seem promising that marking those packages that you want to keep as "manual" will make apt-get shutup
[00:37] <Anonynimity> and that's also when ubuntu phone will be released IdleOne?
[00:37] <oppositescopez> @jrib dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/share/themes/lfs-black-base-blue/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
[00:37] <jrib> oppositescopez: how did that package end up there?  did you install that theme somehow?
[00:37] <IdleOne> Anonynimity: there won't be an Ubuntu phone. The funding campaign failed
[00:38] <TsarObomba> jrib: so how do i
[00:38] <TsarObomba> ie, mark them as manual or whatever? apt-hold?
[00:38] <Anonynimity> what?
[00:38] <Anonynimity> noooo
[00:38] <nabblet> oppositescopez: do you have a file /etc/psd.conf ?
[00:38] <jrib> TsarObomba: I *think* you might also just be able to do "apt-get install PACKAGE" though I'm not sure about that.  That's why I suggested also trying to install the packages explicitly.  To use apt-mark, you can do « apt-mark manual PACKAGE_HERE »
[00:38] <TsarObomba> there will be ubuntu on phones, just not a ubuntu edge
[00:38] <oppositescopez> my friend put it on here a while back @jrib
[00:38] <TsarObomba> I already have it on A phone
[00:38] <Anonynimity> so I guess back to asking: How do I port ubuntu phone to a huawei fusion 2?
[00:39] <jrib> oppositescopez: that file seems to not be correct
[00:39] <TsarObomba> jrib: lemme try, thanks
[00:39] <IdleOne> Anonynimity: see #ubuntu-touch
[00:39] <TsarObomba> You made it through me drinking 4 lemonade and vodkas, so you are a hero
[00:40] <jrib> TsarObomba: great that sounds like an excellent drink to make for myself now
[00:41] <ChogyDan> TsarObomba: there might be another option, add an exception to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove
[00:41] <TsarObomba> jrib: it worked :)
[00:41] <oppositescopez> its a text file, im pretty sure its there idk why the error jrib
[00:41] <TsarObomba> ChogyDan: that is WHAT i was talking about all along
[00:41] <TsarObomba> lmao
[00:41] <turbine_> I've got a weird problem that I could really use some help with.  I'm on 12.04, and when I started up my computer today, firefox had reverted to version 11.  apt-get says 11 is the latest version, and when I updated apt-get, it hit all the sources, but the firefox package remains at 11.  Any ideas?
[00:41] <TsarObomba> and exception for apt. its been years
[00:41] <jrib> oppositescopez: it's bad :)  Get rid of it and whatever else is related to it
[00:42] <oppositescopez> awh i like this theme
[00:42] <TsarObomba> any zsh users here?
[00:43] <ChogyDan> turbine_: try apt-cache policy firefox to see what's going on
[00:43] <TsarObomba> jrib: thanks, and ChogyDan thanks for trying :)
[00:43] <jrib> ChogyDan: nice.  Interestingly enough there's also /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels that seems to keep the last 2 around
[00:43] <oppositescopez> lol how do you rm-rf something?
[00:43] <oppositescopez> i cant remember syntax
[00:43]  * TsarObomba makes another drink, pulls another tooth (wait, my problem did get solved this tim, so no teeth)
[00:43] <Ben64> "rm -rf something"
[00:44] <ChogyDan> jrib: yes, it is part of the tricks of kernel policy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/removing-old-kernels
[00:44] <mikeit> hi
[00:44] <Retroballa> glad we have youtube. Just isntalled latest java in like 5 min vs half hour the other day lol
[00:44] <oppositescopez> jrib:  ok its deleted
[00:44] <turbine_> ChogyDan: got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094964/
[00:46] <oppositescopez> jrib: still with this error on apt-getting things http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094966/
[00:46] <blocky> i booted the 13.04 livecd and the installer is just spinning after i chose to download updates and install 3rd party software
[00:47] <mikeit> Message/Nick Colors
[00:47] <KI7MT> wow, automake: make -j5 && make -j5 check && make install is taking for"Ever" !!
[00:47] <KI7MT> Whoops, wrong windows.. SRI :-)
[00:47] <ChogyDan> turbine_: ok, that's weird
[00:48] <ChogyDan> turbine_: maybe just try sudo apt-get update again
[00:48] <LrdArc> hi, please somebody help me to installing usb tv (gadmei utv380) in ubuntu.. i've tried tvtime but got stuck when running "tvtime-scanner". it says "Inappropriate ioctl for device"
[00:48] <jrib> oppositescopez: I don't have time to troubleshoot this with you.  But someone should look at your init scripts for rsyslogd, apparmor profiles, and postinst for rsyslog
[00:49] <oppositescopez> jrib: ive been with this problem since last year, i think i can manage :p
[00:49] <turbine_> ChogyDan: it's still saying I'm up to date
[00:49] <oppositescopez> jrib: i dont think if its that big of a task anyone else would want to do it either
[00:50] <blocky> will sudo killall ubiquity allow me to restart the installer cleanly?
[00:50] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, pastebinit this: sudo sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/rsyslog.postinst configure
[00:50] <oppositescopez> unless anyone knows what he is talking about and wants to help?
[00:51] <ChogyDan> oppositescopez: did you try to put your browser profile in some place different?
[00:52] <wagle> all 12.04 packages are now unauthenticated?
[00:52] <TsarObomba> agaoin, any zsh users?
[00:52] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094988/
[00:52] <oppositescopez> ChogyDan: i didnt do anything a f riend set this up so i dont know much about it..
[00:52] <Retroballa> I think this is how I installed firefox. I had to go back in terminal and look at what I typed out
[00:52] <Retroballa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094989/
[00:53] <Retroballa> obviously I already had firefox extracted in my Downloads folder  ;)
[00:55] <wagle> i can't update or install new packages on either of my 12.04 systems, and I wasnt fooling around with anything
[00:55] <ChogyDan> oppositescopez: random guess: apt-cache policy profile-sync-daemon             see if you have anything installed like that
[00:55] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, do you get the same error with service rsyslog start?
[00:55] <Ben64> Retroballa: we can't support ppas or installing stuff manually, undo all that and use ubuntu's firefox version
[00:55] <Retroballa> it works
[00:55] <wagle> i get unauthenticated package warning
[00:55] <turbine_> ChogyDan: actually it looks like I might have the same issue with other packages.  It's got chromium stuck on version 18
[00:56] <Retroballa> does ubuntu have firefox version 24
[00:56] <Retroballa> at the time, they didn't
[00:56] <ChogyDan> turbine_: can you pastebin the output of apt-get update?
[00:56] <Ben64> !info firefox | Retroballa
[00:57] <LrdArc> hi, please somebody help me to installing usb tv (gadmei utv380) in ubuntu.. i've tried tvtime but it says "Your capture card driver: uvcvideo [CNF9113/usb-0000:00:1a.7-2/198669] does not support full size studio-quality images required by tvtime."
[00:57] <Retroballa> yep still no version 24
[00:57] <Ben64> Retroballa: still doesn't change what we support here
[00:57] <Retroballa> btw, version 24 did fix an youtube fullscreen issue
[00:57] <oppositescopez> ChogyDan: N: Unable to locate package profile-sync-daemon
[00:58] <Retroballa> funny, you dn't support yet it is a solution
[00:58] <Retroballa> ok
[00:58] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: what do you mean?
[00:58] <Ben64> Retroballa: this is #ubuntu ... we don't support non-ubuntu packages
[00:58] <turbine_> ChogyDan: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6094998/
[00:59] <ChogyDan> oppositescopez: well, that message, as far as I can tell, is saying that chrome refuses to start since it is being run as root
[00:59] <diegonat> t
[00:59] <diegonat> asd
[00:59] <oppositescopez> ChogyDan: im not trying to start chrome, it happens when i try to use apt-get with ANYTHING
[00:59] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, : sudo service rsyslog restart
[00:59] <Retroballa> I assume ubuntu get programs late until it is an official ubuntu package
[01:00] <Retroballa> no biggie
[01:00] <ChogyDan> oppositescopez: well, if you have a funky setup, maybe rsyslog is trying to start chrome for some weird reason
[01:00] <Ben64> Retroballa: 24 is in beta, so thats why its not in ubuntu yet
[01:00] <ChogyDan> Retroballa: firefox 24 isnt out for windows yet either
[01:00] <KI7MT> Yep, I suspect you have an apparmor issue
[01:00] <oppositescopez> KI7MT:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095001/
[01:00] <oppositescopez> ChogyDan: well, where does this happe, how do i fix it?
[01:01] <oppositescopez> ChogyDan: ive searched and searched i cant find a solution
[01:01] <KI7MT> Hmm, that not be good. how did you get to this point, what did you install ./ remove ?
[01:01] <ChogyDan> oppositescopez: unfortunately, I know nothing about that.  Hopefully KI7MT can help
[01:01] <Retroballa> well version 23 may as well be beta. Especially whenI coud't make it 5-10 min without it locking up on a full screen video
[01:01] <Retroballa> just sayin
[01:02] <oppositescopez> ChogyDan: oh, ok. well thanks for trying :)
[01:02] <ChogyDan> Retroballa: well, hopefully 24 will be released soon  :)
[01:02] <Ben64> Retroballa: you can install whatever you want. you just can't get support here without following the rules
[01:03] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: looks like maybe you know about this, where does rsyslog do its stuff? could this be whats trying to run chrome?. where could i find this out to fix this?
[01:03] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, so you you were installing Chrome, how ? then what happened ?
[01:04] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: i wasnt. thats the thing, the problem is. ANY time i use apt-get. even for ANYTHING at all. i get those chrome errors
[01:04] <Retroballa> no worries ben, sometiemes i get mixed up between the line of linux and ubuntu.
[01:05] <ChogyDan> oppositescopez: we get why you are always getting those errors.  The question is about the time when you first started getting them
[01:05] <oppositescopez> ChogyDan: that was over a year ago.....
[01:06] <KI7MT> I doubt the problem is rsyslog, as it's just a central logger, however apparmor is tied into it, and  if it's failing to fire up, that's an issue.
[01:07] <ChogyDan> KI7MT: oppositescopez: what about removing chrome, could that help?
[01:07] <oppositescopez> ChogyDan: its my only used browser (and what im currently using to talk here)
[01:07] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, sudo apparmor_status see wht that says first.
[01:08] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095021/
[01:09] <KI7MT> That's ok, thats  good.
[01:10] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: yay
[01:11] <KI7MT> And this problem is only when you use apt-get ?
[01:11] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: its the only command i ever need/ use so idk
[01:12] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: but its the only time ive seen it
[01:12] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: i know i can run programs from terminal and not get it
[01:13] <KI7MT> Can you update & upgrade from Synaptic Manager via Dash >
[01:13] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: i can try?
[01:13] <KI7MT> Yes, see what we get there.
[01:13] <sordidbass> whats better these days? fglrx or radeon?
[01:14] <oppositescopez> ehh, what do i do with it.?
[01:14] <dr_willis> sordidbass:  i imagine it depends on your exact chipset neimg used
[01:14] <turbine_> ChogyDan: any more ideas?
[01:14] <sordidbass> 6790
[01:14] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, start it up adn reload first, thats same as update
[01:14] <blackvswhite> sordidbass: fglrx or radeon as in which driver? bare in mind the latest drivers from ATI only support the newer cards
[01:15] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: got an error, one sec ill pastebin
[01:15] <blackvswhite> sordidbass: if you on an older card, stick with fglrx. if your cards new, download the latest driver from ATI and use that. There's a remarkable difference.
[01:15] <blocky> hi, not sure if this is a known issue with 13.04 but I'm getting stuck in the livecd installer, after i select not to download updates and click continue
[01:15] <oppositescopez> KI7MT:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095038/
[01:16] <sordidbass> card is ~ 2 years old
[01:16] <blocky> ati video card, core 2 duo E8400, 4gb ram, i have 3 hard drives in the system but I want to install to an SSD with a 30 gig ext4 partition i just created
[01:17] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: spaced it out so you can see all of it http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095044/
[01:18] <ChogyDan> turbine_: I dunno, maybe just try a different repo
[01:18] <KI7MT> karmic ?  that's seriously old :-) ..: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out that ## that virtualbox repo.
[01:19] <KI7MT> then ten try an update again.
[01:19] <blocky> my tty1 is showing a buffer io error on dev sda1
[01:19] <blocky> is there a way i can disable that drive? i don't want to install to it
[01:19] <dr_willis> blocky:  that may indicate the hard drive is failing or has bad blocks
[01:19] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: is that error bad?
[01:20] <dr_willis> blocky:  you want to install to sdb or sdc? you could just unplug the problem drive
[01:20] <blocky> dr_willis: i was wondering if there was a way to do that in software
[01:20] <blocky> i guess the bios eh
[01:20] <dr_willis> bios might be able to do it. I tend to just pull the power cord to the drive
[01:21] <blocky> why should an error on one drive be a showstopper for the whole installer?
[01:21] <bl4ckdu5t> How can I use fonts like Trebuchet, Maiandra, and other Microsoft fonts on my Ubuntu?
[01:21] <dr_willis> bl4ckdu5t:  install them as needed. the msstcorefonts package i think pulls in a lot of them
[01:21] <marcoo> hi, im going to be assistant of people giving talks using ubuntu. i've seen that the system turns off the screen automatically, and i dont want that to happen. what shell script should i use?
[01:21] <dr_willis> if not you can get them from a windows install
[01:21] <dr_willis> !fonts
[01:22] <dr_willis> bl4ckdu5t:  the ubuntu-restricted-extras package pulls in the core ms fonts and a lot of other things you may want
[01:22] <penghuan> can anyone tell me how to change the default content of source.list in ubuntu*.iso?
[01:23] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, what you really need is a fresh sources.list to start from, then update from there.
[01:23] <marcoo> no answers?
[01:23] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: what does that mean,. what will that doo?
[01:24] <dr_willis> penghuan:  you would have to remaster the iso. Im not sure theres a easy way to alter just one file on an iso image these days.
[01:24] <oppositescopez> penghuan: is this what your talking about.? o.0
[01:24] <dr_willis> penghuan:  askubuntu.com might have some suggestions for tools that might make it easier
[01:24] <oppositescopez> penghuan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[01:24] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, I use this tool often, you need to back up /etc/apt/sources.list then generate a new one with this: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[01:25] <TsarObomba> ok, soooo touchpad support
[01:25] <marcoo> this is why i like windows. No crashes, things are easy to do, and if you need real support you have it.
[01:25] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: well what does it do exactly?
[01:25] <penghuan> yes ,wo i want to modify the source.list file as what i want when the system installed
[01:25] <blocky> what command would i use to see the serial number of /dev/sda
[01:25] <TsarObomba> err touchscreen *
[01:25] <dr_willis> marcoo:   the power saveing/screensaver settings can disable that.
[01:25] <TsarObomba> For a touchscreen with sketchy support, looks like it may have worked in the old days on 32bit
[01:25] <TsarObomba> Its a liliput 7incher
[01:25] <TsarObomba> Also known as a POS
[01:26] <TsarObomba> I wanna try getting the touch working, the video works perfect
[01:26] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: i dont know that much about my stuff ... :/
[01:26] <TsarObomba> Its VGA and USB, i assume it registers touch via usb
[01:26] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, to to that site and generate a new sources list, and save in /Download or /home where you can get to it easy.
[01:26] <KI7MT> go to .. .. .
[01:26] <TsarObomba> oh crap, no wonder, i never plugged in the usb
[01:27] <TsarObomba> im too drunk for this
[01:27] <TsarObomba> 8+ shots of svedka and lemonade
[01:27] <TsarObomba> ive finished half a liter myself.... should i be messing with a touchscreen, hmm....
[01:28] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: i dont know what to check for the 3rd, 4rth, 5th, and 6th boxes
[01:28] <TsarObomba> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0eef:0001 D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd eGalax TouchScreen
[01:28] <TsarObomba> anyone seen that one before?
[01:28] <darkangel> Hey sups guys.... what can i do to Subport Ubuntu?
[01:28] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: and im not 100% sure on the second one o.o
[01:29] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: do i just check everything i need?
[01:29] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, you using 12.10 UBuntu ?
[01:30] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: i guess, its lubuntu i think
[01:30] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: well i know its lubuntu
[01:30] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: thats all i know
[01:31] <TsarObomba> i got it working, but its mpoving the mouse lmao
[01:31] <TsarObomba> even after xinput_calibration
[01:33] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, comments it all out and add this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095082/
[01:34] <KI7MT> Be sure to Back up yoru original sources.list first.
[01:34] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: how do you comment something out?
[01:34] <KI7MT> wiht a ## sign in fornt of the line
[01:34] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: since i have it copied cant i just delete it all?
[01:34] <KI7MT> [ # this is a comment ed ]  ... [ This is not commented ]
[01:35] <KI7MT> If you have a backup, yes you can remove it.
[01:37] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: cant open file to write, ? im guessing sudo through terminal?
[01:37] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, yes sudo
[01:38] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: how do you open it through terminal?
[01:38] <LrdArc> somebody help me to installing gadmei utv380 :'( it does not even detected http://pastebin.com/RXpuVUGN
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> oppositescopez, If you use gedit use gksudo
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> LrdArc, http://askubuntu.com/questions/133314/how-do-i-install-a-gadmei-tv-tuner-utv380
[01:40] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, in terminal I use nano so : sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.orig && nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:41] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: oh yeah NANO i forgot thanks
[01:41] <ironfoot495> Hello I have a problem trying to work out some OOP code for DB connection. I need to convert it to mysql is there someone who can help me with this?
[01:41] <KI7MT> then Copy & Paste the pastebinit in the file, use Ctrl+K to delete lines quickly.
[01:41] <LrdArc> wilee-nileem, i did ls -l /dev/video* but it just showed 1 device
[01:42] <ironfoot495> It is is a postgres Script I need to change it to mysql.
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> LrdArc, I just found the link, that's all I know. ;)
[01:42] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: ok i did it
[01:42] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, nwo with new data staved in sources.list: sudo apt-get update
[01:43] <NekoGloopMkII> Does xubuntu not function with 16:9 aspect ratio resolution screens?
[01:44] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: ok but still getting chrome error
[01:44] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: like i tried a simple apt-get command and im still getting it (if that was supposed to fic)
[01:44] <oppositescopez> KI7MT:  *fix
[01:45] <KI7MT> How did yuou install Chrome ? via .deb or apt-get ?
[01:45] <oppositescopez> KI7MT:  it wasnt me and it was over a year ago
[01:46] <oppositescopez> and its chromium
[01:46] <oppositescopez> i thought that came by default?
[01:46] <x_> apt-get install chromium-browser
[01:47] <KI7MT> In lubuntu, yes, it's the default browser.
[01:47] <dr_willis> chrommium is the default on lubuntu i belive
[01:47] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: so i didnt install it?
[01:47] <KI7MT> No, it was already installed by default.
[01:47] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: sorry that had confused me when you asked
[01:47] <KI7MT> I gorgot you said you were on Lubuntu.
[01:47] <KI7MT> forgot ..
[01:47] <x_> firefox default ? in ubuntu ?
[01:48] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: yeah, haha it wass from a misslabeled cd, was aiming for ubuntu but was sadly suprised
[01:48] <KI7MT> Yes, FF on Ubuntu, Chromium on Lubuntu
[01:48] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: so what now?
[01:48] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: refresher on the current error After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. Setting up rsyslog (5.8.6-1ubuntu9.1) ... Skipping profile in /etc/apparmor.d/disable: usr.sbin.rsyslogd [16191:16191:0911/214348:ERROR:chrome_browser_main_extra_parts_gtk.cc(51)] Startup refusing to run as root. [16194:16194:0911/214350:ERROR:chrome_browser_main_extra_parts_gtk.cc(51)] Startup refusing to run as root. [16196:
[01:49] <oppositescopez> woah LINK DIDNT COPY!!
[01:49] <oppositescopez> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095109/
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> oppositescopez, How did you install chrome?
[01:50] <khuevu> hi guys
[01:50] <oppositescopez> wilee-nilee: default lubuntu
[01:50] <khuevu> i have a problem with ubuntu
[01:50] <KI7MT> It's Lubuntu, it's the default Browser
[01:50] <NekoGloopMkII> Um...
[01:50] <khuevu> i let it update to 3.5.0-40-generic
[01:51] <khuevu> but there is no linux-headers-3.5.0-40-generic in repository
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> oppositescopez, Ah, yes i is I would purge it and remove all files and reinstall it.
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> it*
[01:51] <NekoGloopMkII> Does anyone know how to get 16:9 resolution in latest xubuntu running in VirtualBox?
[01:51] <khuevu> then my VM Player can't start because it depends on linux's headers
[01:51] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: should i purge it then? like he said?
[01:51] <dr_willis> NekoGloopMkII:  you installed the vbox guest addations?
[01:51] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, that's about the only way I can think to get round this, is try and remove Chromium and re-install it if you can.
[01:52] <NekoGloopMkII> dr_willis, yes.
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> oppositescopez, Might be the chrome file in .config something is amiss though
[01:52] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: commands for that?
[01:52] <dr_willis> NekoGloopMkII:  thats all i recall ever needing to do
[01:52] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: im gonna have to open firefox to connect back here
[01:52] <NekoGloopMkII> Hum...
[01:52] <KI7MT> sudo apt-get remove --purge chromium-browser
[01:52] <NekoGloopMkII> I'll try restarting again then.
[01:52] <dr_willis> NekoGloopMkII:  unless thers some quirk going on. you might want to check askubuntu.com and in #vbox
[01:53] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: then to instlal it back?
[01:53] <KI7MT> then the an apt-clean autoclean and autoremove
[01:53] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: dang ima loose my skin and favorites right?
[01:53] <KI7MT> Save you Fav's first
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> oppositescopez, You can save your favourites
[01:54] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, Bookmarks, Bookmarks Manager, export to html
[01:54] <oppositescopez_> ok im connected throught firefox about to run commands
[01:54] <legend123> Hello there. I have observed that in ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS, the size of files and folders in shown in SI units(Base 10) rather than IEC units(Base 2) inside nautilus file manager by default. Is there a way to change it to previous IES units in nautilus?
[01:54] <KI7MT> I dont know about the skins and plug-ins if any
[01:55] <legend123> I can't seem to find any option.
[01:55] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT: crap my plug ins too forgot about those x.x
[01:55] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT: oh well gota do what you gotta do i guess
[01:55] <KI7MT> that could what's causing the problem :-) .. who knows.
[01:55] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT: lol there all disabled atm anyways
[01:56] <KI7MT> No gaurentee this will fix it either.
[01:56] <LostMonk> i can access my windows partition, but Im not able to bring any files over. Any ideas?
[01:56] <uronu> how windows connect to ldap server without using samba?
[01:56] <KI7MT> but the wagons all keep circling the browser at the moment.
[01:57] <KI7MT> uronu, pGina is an option, though I've not tested it.
[01:57] <gurugeek> How can i connect to a wifi router using Wpa2 personal but using a password less than 8 characters? NetworkManager wont allow
[01:58] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT: ugh no way to find the theme again. took me weeks. oh well. anyways i closed my chrome and this is refreshed could you write the purge and install comands again for it?
[01:58] <uronu> KI7MT: I tried it i can connect to ldap server but can't go through windows desktop.
[01:58] <an3k> how can I check why Suspend / Hibernate isn't offered by my Ubuntu 13.04 32-Bit installation?
[01:59] <oppositescopez_> gurugeek: reaver, aircrack?
[01:59] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, sudo apt-get remove --purge chromium-browser
[01:59] <KI7MT> then sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[01:59] <gurugeek> oppositescopez_:  what is reaver?
[02:00] <oppositescopez_> gurugeek: are you trying to find the password?
[02:00] <dr_willis> !info reaver
[02:00] <oppositescopez_> gurugeek: moniter your wireless card with aircrack and use brute force with reaver
[02:00] <KI7MT> uronu, you may want to ask in ubuntu-server, they may have better options.
[02:00] <uronu> is there a correct setup of pgina to connect with ldap server?
[02:00] <root> toor
[02:00] <uronu> KI7MT: thanks
[02:01] <zubir> i cant server warrzone2100
[02:01] <we6jbo> Hi
[02:01] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT: OMG FOUND TE ERROR -.-
[02:01] <Guest28206> hi
[02:01] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT: LOOK at the paste bin from that..
[02:01] <Guest28206> who is this
[02:01] <gurugeek> oppositescopez_: no, NetworkManager wont allow to save a password leas than 8 characters. the connect button is greyed
[02:02] <KI7MT> oppositescopez_, which pastebin ?
[02:02] <oppositescopez_> gurugeek: oh haha whoops i thought you were trying to fins the password never mind
[02:02] <we6jbo> How can I alphabetize a text file?
[02:03] <legend123> Anyone?
[02:03] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095154/ this one
[02:03] <wagle> we6jbo: sort command?
[02:03] <we6jbo> yeah
[02:03] <we6jbo> wagle: yeah sort. I want to sort a file
[02:03] <wagle> "sort"
[02:03] <dr_willis> we6jbo:  the 'sort' command sorts text files
[02:04] <we6jbo> dr_willis: ok I'll try that. Thanks dr_willis and wagle
[02:04] <dr_willis> and people say linux is hard. ;)
[02:04] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT: anyways now i sudo apt-get install chromium-browser right?
[02:04] <KI7MT> oppositescopez_,Im confused, same error still there
[02:04] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT: no, different results.
[02:05] <KI7MT> oppositescopez_, No, do this first
[02:05] <TsarObomba> man toyuchscreen with that is a mess
[02:05] <TsarObomba> even on plasma active
[02:05] <KI7MT> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:05] <TsarObomba> it just moves the cursor
[02:05] <an3k> dr_willis: hard because complex :)
[02:05] <KI7MT> oppositescopez_, then we'll go back after Chromium, when your uypdates are dont.
[02:05] <KI7MT> done ...
[02:06] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT: didnt get errord from that apt-get
[02:06] <KI7MT> Is it updating ?
[02:07] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT: well the first one, im in process of distro , but im running a 100kb internet connection
[02:07] <LostMonk> any dual boot experts around?
[02:07] <oppositescopez_> LostMonk: grub, end of story
[02:07] <LostMonk> yeah, you fail already
[02:07] <an3k> LostMonk: Ubuntu and ... ?
[02:07] <LostMonk> win 7
[02:07] <LostMonk> its not letting me movee files from the win partition over
[02:07] <KI7MT> oppositescopez_, Ok. Your not upgrading Distro's only updating to the latest in 12.10 or whatever your version is.
[02:07] <oppositescopez_> LostMonk:  hehe i dual boot win xp and lubuntu with it?
[02:08] <an3k> LostMonk: What filesystem does the ubuntu sys use?
[02:08] <LostMonk> there is a lot more to dual booting than just grub
[02:08] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT:  you know what i ment ~.~
[02:08] <LostMonk> ext 4
[02:08] <KI7MT> :-)
[02:08] <an3k> LostMonk: Windows is stupid and cannot understand ext4
[02:08] <an3k> or ext3
[02:08] <LostMonk> well shit
[02:08] <an3k> or ...
[02:08] <an3k>  :)
[02:08] <oppositescopez_> LostMonk: haha i was reffering to a starting point :p
[02:09] <oppositescopez_> fat 32 for windows right?
[02:09] <KI7MT> oppositescopez_, In any case, I'm glad it's updating, that's a good thing
[02:09] <an3k> LostMonk: you can find a kind of hacked driver for ext4 but these are not very reliable
[02:09] <LostMonk> then should I add an extra partition in my linux side to cooy them to/
[02:09] <LostMonk> copy*
[02:09] <LostMonk> fat 32?
[02:09] <an3k> fat32 works
[02:09] <LostMonk> yeah, only back in winxp
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> ntfs for sharing is common
[02:09] <LostMonk> the win7 part is ntfs
[02:09] <an3k> but max 4GB filesize and ...well ... FAT :)
[02:09] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT:  lol 17%. chugging along
[02:10] <LostMonk> trying to get all mymusic and stufff moved over to just kill that os
[02:10] <KI7MT> As long as it's making progress, that's ok :-)
[02:10] <an3k> LostMonk: why not copying from ubuntu?
[02:10] <oppositescopez_> yeah ntfs failed when i ttried that i think FAT 32 is best?
[02:10] <an3k> if windows cant write onto ubuntu use ubuntu to read from windows :)
[02:10] <LostMonk> I am using ubuntu to move them over
[02:11] <rscnt> what?
[02:11] <rscnt> how?
[02:11] <oppositescopez_> this is EXACTLY why i have an extra hard drive for storage
[02:11] <LostMonk> could it be a missing mount option from the default ?
[02:11] <LostMonk> sure oppositescopez_ , send me a $100 for an extra external drive
[02:12] <an3k> well, afaik you have to manually mount an external partition
[02:12] <an3k> or lets say a "non OS"-partition :)
[02:12] <LostMonk> yeah, but its just right click mount
[02:12] <oppositescopez_> LostMonk:  haha there not 100$ lol i use a 10 gig its all i need for music
[02:12] <LostMonk> wonder if I should be using a different set of options from cli
[02:12] <LostMonk> lol
[02:13] <an3k> LostMonk: so what do you see if you try to access the win7 ntfs partition?
[02:13] <LostMonk> I have 215 gigs of music alone
[02:13] <LostMonk> an3k, I see everything, just not able to copy it over
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> 120$ was a 2 terrabyte external
[02:13] <oppositescopez_> LostMonk:  and actualy i have 2 haha i had to cut down on music for my 500 gigs of movies :P
[02:13] <an3k> LostMonk: what'S the errormsg?
[02:13] <LostMonk> 1 sec
[02:14] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT:  lol riding dead on 100 kbs  29 %
[02:14] <an3k> I once had a "full" 500 GB hdd. Windows thought it crashed and "fixed" the File Allocation Table. I lost everything. Since then I'm using Hardware RAID :)
[02:15] <LostMonk> heh, nm
[02:15] <LostMonk> I guess the last thing I tried worked
[02:15] <LostMonk> I just needed to remount it again
[02:15] <LostMonk> LOL
[02:15] <an3k> :)
[02:15] <LostMonk> been a long day
[02:15] <LostMonk> :P
[02:15] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT:  haha funny story about why my connections so bad
[02:15] <an3k> if you change mounting options its always better to manually remount ;)
[02:16] <LostMonk> still wish we had native netflix support
[02:16] <an3k> never trust software you didn't built in a backdoor yourself :D
[02:16] <LostMonk> hehe
[02:16] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT:  it sais approx 30 minutes.. uhh, you gonna be around that long?
[02:16] <LostMonk> I dont have the time to invest for all that anymore
[02:16] <LostMonk> or Id be using arch
[02:16] <an3k> I would like to see trakt.tv support
[02:16] <LostMonk> :)
[02:17] <LostMonk> gues they updated the amd driver
[02:17] <KI7MT> Yeah, Im build a box from scratch so will be here for a while. I have my own mirror at the hosue, so updates and installs are seriously fast.
[02:17] <oppositescopez_> am i allowed to talk about off-topic things while in the midst of getting help?
[02:17] <LostMonk> i get an unsupported hardware graphic now
[02:17] <Pici> oppositescopez_: if you do it in the offtopic channel, sure.
[02:18] <dr_willis> !netflix
[02:18] <an3k> oppositescopez_: as long as Pici doesn't notice :)
[02:18] <LostMonk> yeah, I dont use wine
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> LostMonk, It is all in a package it install sitself.
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> itself*
[02:19] <oppositescopez_> an3k: lol too late im guessing?
[02:19] <LostMonk> nah, i dont use wine on principle
[02:19] <oppositescopez_> an3k: :p
[02:19] <an3k> LostMonk: Well, at least you can see something. I can use Ubuntu on my main computer because after installation and login the whole system starts to heavily lag and finally completely freeze up
[02:19] <oppositescopez_> haha how do you pm again?
[02:19] <LostMonk> ack
[02:19] <LostMonk> no bueno
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> I don't use wine, but I have no principals. lol
[02:19] <an3k> oppositescopez_: /msg nickname text
[02:19] <virgenmadre> is there any other virus scanner in Linux other then clamtk
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> !av
[02:19] <an3k> LostMonk: I mean I cannot
[02:20] <LostMonk> try different grub options on boot?
[02:20] <virgenmadre> well that is precisely the problem :) I am scanning a really really infected computer under windows its a separate hard drive.
[02:20] <reisio> virgenmadre: there doesn't need to be
[02:20] <reisio> but yes there is
[02:20] <an3k> virgenmadre: on my nas i have clamav but i guess its the same
[02:21] <LostMonk> get a boot cd to work on it
[02:21] <KI7MT> Avast, Bitdefender, Clam adn AVG, but bet one is dont use root / sudo and ya got no issues :-)
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> virgenmadre, Most of the major AV providers have live cd's
[02:21] <an3k> LostMonk: you mean me?
[02:21] <reisio> yeah clamtk would be a frontend to clamav
[02:21] <KI7MT> best one ..
[02:21] <LostMonk> an3k, yeah
[02:21] <LostMonk> I know mint had crazy issues on here if I didnt use a grub option
[02:21] <dr_willis> its best to always use several differnt av scanners to be sure.
[02:21] <an3k> hmm, never played that many with these. I guess its gfx card related because I saw some typical errors on screen
[02:21] <LostMonk> noauto something or other
[02:22] <an3k> have a GTX580 with 3 GB RAM. that may be a issue :)
[02:22] <LostMonk> possible
[02:22] <LostMonk> brb, gotta reboot after the updates
[02:23] <legend123> In Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS, there is a blank screen after screensaver when it is idle for more than 2-3 hours. Is this a bug?
[02:23] <legend123> There is no problem in accessing tty terminals.
[02:24] <oppositescopez_> an3k:  haha im so outdated. -nvidia geforce 280
[02:24] <dr_willis> legend123:  likely its a power saveing setting kicking in aftger the screensaver has ran for a while.
[02:24] <kostkon> legend123, that's normal behaviour. the gnome screensaver nowadays is just the blank screen. if you want fancy screensavers, you need to install xscreensaver
[02:24] <an3k> oppositescopez_: still have a 295 here but I don't like these Dual-GPU cards. Not until they're like Dual/Quad-Core CPUs ;)
[02:25] <KI7MT> oppositescopez_, my workstation has 4x 9800 GTX'a LOL .. but they still work so not breaking a box that works :-)
[02:26] <virgenmadre> wilee-nilee, ohh nice alright will take that into consideration
[02:26] <kostkon> legend123, or you mean blank screen after the screensaver has kicked in
[02:26] <legend123> dr_willis, kostkon : It's not about that. I have already installed xscreensaver. When after some time i come back to my computer and try to remove screensaver by clicking or by keyboard, then all i get is a mouse cursor and a blank screen.
[02:26] <kostkon> legend123, hmm that's not normal then
[02:26] <an3k> I once owned a 3Dfx Voodoo5 6000...what a card
[02:27] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT:  haha if i had that my cpu would be like , nope lol too much (melts)
[02:27] <legend123> lol yes.
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> virgenmadre, The user not have a backup image?
[02:28] <oppositescopez_> I HAD 2 TITANS> nope just kidding im poor
[02:28] <legend123> After that i have to manually restart lightdm (sudo service lightdm restart) in tty terminal to get back normal graphical interface.
[02:29] <kostkon> legend123, maybe the card tells the monitor to go into standby mode and it fails. actually, how are you overcoming this when it happens
[02:29] <oppositescopez_> even though i am using like , the most expencive thermaltake case (with its lovely 700w power suply) on the market
[02:29] <virgenmadre> wilee-nilee, nope
[02:29] <an3k> isn't there a setting in the bios what kind of standby/suspend you want for the display?
[02:29] <virgenmadre> this hard drive is one of the worst cases that I have seen.
[02:30] <virgenmadre> I am just wondering I have finished a scan with clamtk
[02:30] <an3k> virgenmadre: IBM DTLA? :D
[02:30] <virgenmadre> that I left for running for a friend
[02:30] <oppositescopez_> virgenmadre: haha . you would be suprised what ive dealt with with hard drives :p
[02:30] <legend123> kostkon: This problem has started just after a fresh installation of 12.04.3 LTS. It wasn't there in 11.10 earlier. And i am on dual boot with windows 7. In windows 7, there's no such black screen after screensaver.
[02:30] <virgenmadre> it shows the history and the file, but how do I know if the viruses have been quarantined?
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> virgenmadre, I would not fix it, you can't, pull out what is needed and do a fresh install.
[02:31] <an3k> same advice from me
[02:31] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT: for the update 70% but now says 50 minutes o.0?
[02:31] <virgenmadre> I already did a Linux install on a separate hard drive which is where I am talking to you in
[02:31] <kostkon> legend123, do you reboot when it happens?
[02:31] <virgenmadre> but before making a back up of any files on that virus infected beast
[02:31] <KI7MT> oppositescopez_, that's ok, it's updating, that's what is important.
[02:31] <virgenmadre> I want to take out as much as possible
[02:32] <legend123> kostkon: No. I just restart lightdm service and everything is normal again.
[02:32] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT:  oh never mind had a connection drop i hadnt noticed, will be done in no time. 20 min tops
[02:32] <an3k> virgenmadre: i hope you're here because his next OS is Ubuntu and not because you needed help with a virus scanner?! :)
[02:32] <kostkon> legend123, ok
[02:32] <virgenmadre> It is already running Ubuntu :)
[02:32] <an3k> very nice :)
[02:33] <kostkon> legend123, have you checked the gnome power and display settings, in case they are overriding the xcreesaver ones at some point
[02:34] <legend123> kostkon: Yes. It's alright. I have told it to "Don't Suspend".
[02:34] <virgenmadre> does clamtk after scanning automatically get rid of the viruses?
[02:34] <virgenmadre> :( this is what I am unsure of
[02:34] <kostkon> legend123, also have you tried using a lighter 2d/non 3d screensaver in xscreensaver in case that it causes your X etc to crash
[02:35] <virgenmadre> I have not used the software enough to know that
[02:35] <virgenmadre> I dont have time to wait for another scan
[02:36] <KI7MT> virgenmadre, It's unlikely, though not impossible, that you have any virus at all on your system.
[02:36] <legend123> kostkon: I haven't tried this thing yet.
[02:36] <oppositescopez_> how do you join the offtopic chat?
[02:37] <kostkon> legend123, try setting xscreensaver to use only one screensaver, not randomly and select the simplest one you can find and see if that will make a difference
[02:37] <dr_willis> virgenmadre:   it might have that option, but by default i think it just shows/logs what its found
[02:39] <legend123> kostkon: Thank you. I will try this. By the way, can you look at my dmesg logs and cross check?
[02:39] <kostkon> legend123, have you found any errors in them?
[02:42] <legend123> kostkon: There are some entries at the bottom some information about display etc. and i am not sure what they exactly mean. Have a look at this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095252/
[02:43] <oppositescopez> whoops dissconected
[02:43] <oppositescopez> is the guy i was talking to still here
[02:44] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: ok its done downloading
[02:44] <kostkon> legend123, everything looks normal and the warning "WARNING! power/level is deprecated; use power/control instead" seems to be usb related
[02:45] <kostkon> legend123, you could check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:46] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, run the update again, the just to be sure all is well,  I'd do a re-boot befoer we get into Chromium.
[02:47] <oppositescopez> Ki7MT: so is this updating software?
[02:48] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: firefox wants to restart now brb
[02:48] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: oh wait its still unpacking
[02:48] <KI7MT> Yeah, make sure it's dont updating before doing anything  else.
[02:49] <KI7MT> it's done .. .. ..
[02:50] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: oh yeah i guess this could potentially be a ubuntu question.. is there any way to install windows drivers to ubuntu to be copied overr to windows?
[02:50] <kostkon> oppositescopez, none i know of
[02:51] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: wireless card drivers are not on my windows, so i cant connect unless i have the drivers.
[02:51] <KI7MT> Yes, you modprobe drivers, but it's not for the faint at heart :-)
[02:51] <oppositescopez> then im never gonna be able to connect on windows :/
[02:52] <oppositescopez> oh
[02:52] <KI7MT> Modprobe Windows Drivers to Linux that is.
[02:52] <kostkon> oppositescopez, download the driver file, access it from windows?
[02:52] <dr_willis> to be copied over to windows? Im not clear on what you are trying to do
[02:52] <oppositescopez> kostkon: i cant
[02:52] <dr_willis> windows xan acxcess files on your ubuntu box if you set it up right.
[02:52] <oppositescopez> kostkon: haha i broke my dualboot not to long ago and have to move the sata cables each time for each boot
[02:52] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, That's what I'd do, while on Linux, DL the Windos driver, save to USB or shatever, and load it when you boot windows.
[02:53] <oppositescopez> ok ill try that later
[02:53] <kostkon> oppositescopez, is it a dual boot on 2 disks?
[02:53] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: i got "system program problem detected" just now
[02:53] <oppositescopez> kostkon: haha i have 4 hard drives 1 windows 1 lubuntu 2 for 110 gigs of extra storage
[02:54] <legend123> kostkon: You are right. That usb warning is related to a external hard drive when i safely remove it. Xorg logs seem normal to me except some errors starting at line number 324. Have a look at this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095289/
[02:54] <oppositescopez> kostkon: ill just copy it to my extra storage
[02:54] <kostkon> oppositescopez, yeap. you can even extra the file if needed be, if you install 7zip in ubuntu
[02:54] <kostkon> extract*
[02:55] <oppositescopez> kostkon:  oh ok thanks :)
[02:55] <kostkon> oppositescopez, extract .exes or .cabs
[02:55] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, I get that too sometimes, mine is from a stupid Weather APP that I installed.
[02:56] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: i get it every time on startup
[02:56] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: like so many times
[02:56] <oppositescopez> KI7MT:  but it doesnt bother me
[02:56] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: nor affect me in any way other than having to close it
[02:56] <kostkon> legend123, everything looks fine, i think
[02:56] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, to stop getting those msg's: gksudo gedit /etc/default/apport and change the text "enabled=1" to "enabled-0"
[02:57] <oppositescopez> you mean enabled = 0?
[02:57] <KI7MT> However, that disables all msg's so if you wont get any msg's then
[02:58] <oppositescopez> dont need them
[02:58] <KI7MT> 1=Yes I want them, and 0=No, dont bug me with that noise.
[02:58] <oppositescopez> haha i just noticed how i spaced that out :P so many years of c++ is catching habits
[03:00] <oppositescopez> so this Saving to: `jdk-7u40-linux-i586.tar.gz' is going to take an ungodly amount of time
[03:02] <reisio> oppositescopez: not too late to give up on Java™ ;)
[03:03] <oppositescopez> rescept_: couldnt live without jave
[03:03] <oppositescopez> *java
[03:03] <oppositescopez> wait fail
[03:04] <oppositescopez> reisio: couldnt live without java
[03:04] <reisio> why not? :)
[03:04] <oppositescopez> haha wrong person the first time :p
[03:04] <oppositescopez> reisio:  what would i do without runescape ^_^
[03:05] <dr_willis> oppositescopez:  hang out on irc more,
[03:05] <dr_willis> :)
[03:05] <dr_willis> bbl
[03:05] <oppositescopez> reisio: i enjoy writing bots in my free time just to improve my coding skills
[03:06] <totem> how to be ubuntu member?
[03:07] <kostkon> totem, not so easy as it sounds, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[03:07] <totem> kostkon, lemme check
[03:08] <KI7MT> oppositescopez, while Java may be a solution to some it's the root of many prob's for others :-)
[03:08] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: been there, done that
[03:09] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: actualy ran iced tea i think it was? for the longest time
[03:09] <oppositescopez> KI7MT: haha something along the lines of that
[03:11] <oppositescopez> KI7MT:  yeah its IcedTea
[03:13] <oppositescopez> if anyones interested (as it is related to problems in ubuntu ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IcedTea Wiki page :D
[03:14] <krux> linux17mdk
[03:15] <krux> oops wrong chan :P
[03:15] <oppositescopez> dr_willis: what is irc?
[03:17] <karen_> I am about to lose my mind. Why not my ubuntu computer not see my windows 7 computer?
[03:17] <ClumsyFairyQueen> oppositescopez, your on it right now
[03:17] <oppositescopez> ClumsyFairyQueen:  what does it stand for?
[03:18] <karen_> Does anyone have any idea on how to share a hard drive between two computer that are 30 ft away with out spending more then $300?
[03:18] <ClumsyFairyQueen> karen_, check workgroup and if other computer ispingable
[03:18] <oppositescopez> KI7MT:  apparently i still have iced tea but its disabled
[03:18] <ClumsyFairyQueen> if workgroup is not the same on both computers, it wont work.
[03:18] <karen_> nothing is ping about. they do not see each other. I hate them both.
[03:18] <KI7MT> That's probably a good thing :-)
[03:18] <ClumsyFairyQueen> oppositescopez, Internet Relay Chat
[03:19] <karen_> how do I see what workgroup my ubuntu computer is?
[03:19] <xmetal> !irc
[03:19] <oppositescopez> haha i guess ill hang around this one more often :P
[03:20] <oppositescopez> new bookmark :D
[03:20] <ClumsyFairyQueen> oppositescopez, #ubuntuforums is also quite nice, as long as you use it only as a social chat channel :)
[03:20] <oppositescopez> i use things as ther ment to be used :D
[03:21] <ClumsyFairyQueen> :D
[03:22] <ClumsyFairyQueen> judging from the topic that we change each day there, we use the topic improperly...
[03:22] <oppositescopez> ClumsyFairyQueen:  ok maybe rules are ment to be bent, but not completely broken
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> might be bacon, might be maple bars
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[03:24] <oppositescopez> KI7MT:  uhh, it finished.... with an error x.x
[03:24] <KI7MT> that's a bummer, that's the error
[03:24] <oppositescopez> KI7MT:  it finished with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095387/
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> ClumsyFairyQueen, Whay up queenie
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> what*
[03:25] <ClumsyFairyQueen> hwy wilee-nilee
[03:25] <ClumsyFairyQueen> *hey
[03:25] <ClumsyFairyQueen> long time not see
[03:25] <oppositescopez> KI7MT:  lol whats cups??
[03:25] <ClumsyFairyQueen> Common Unix Printing System
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[03:25] <ClumsyFairyQueen> or something like that
[03:25] <KI7MT> Printer stuff .. I do a reboot, and update again, see where we're at.
[03:25] <oppositescopez> should i try update again before reboot like you said earlier?
[03:26] <KI7MT> No we'll do that after re-boot.
[03:26] <oppositescopez> oh my software updater showed up before i did that. isnt that what i just did? should i just close it?
[03:26] <rscnt> hi
[03:27] <oppositescopez> KI7MT:  or did i just o something else?
[03:27] <KI7MT> Yes, close the updater window, shutdown -r
[03:27] <oppositescopez> k
[03:28] <KI7MT> the updater was catching up from when  we unhung the Chromium stuff.
[03:28] <oppositescopez> yeah
[03:28] <oppositescopez> btw that shutdown command failed :p
[03:28] <oppositescopez> Try `shutdown --help' for more information.
[03:28] <oppositescopez> haha
[03:28] <krux> shutdown -h now
[03:29] <oppositescopez> same result
[03:29] <KI7MT> LOL it wasnt' a command, proper command is: sudo shutdown -r now
[03:29] <oppositescopez> oh whoops
[03:29] <oppositescopez> :P
[03:33] <oppositescopez_> im back
[03:33] <oppositescopez_> hating now that i have this theme removed
[03:33] <oppositescopez_> it just updated
[03:33] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT: so update again?
[03:34] <oppositescopez_> hello?
[03:35] <oppositescopez_> did i break this again ~.~
[03:35] <ClumsyFairyQueen> oppositescopez_, btw, what problem are you having - cant see what it is since my server decided to go into a RAID rebuild
[03:35] <KI7MT> Yeah, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:35] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT:  i cant see the time in the bottom left any more (just throwing that out there)
[03:36] <KI7MT> oppositescopez_, Im compilign code in xterm also, so dont ahve this up all the time.
[03:36] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT:  yeah sorry i just didnt know if this had stopped working again
[03:36] <KI7MT> Yep, Lubuntu bottom bar has issues, things disappear, get hung up, all sorts of things.
[03:36] <chucho> hi all. looking for recommendations for visualizing a tcpdump pcap capture file
[03:36] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT:  found the problem
[03:37] <KI7MT> with what the clock ?
[03:37] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT:  do you happen to know the color code format for it?
[03:37] <KI7MT> or the main problem
[03:37] <oppositescopez_> yeah
[03:37] <oppositescopez_> clock
[03:37] <KI7MT> color-code = No, pass on that one.
[03:38] <KI7MT> I've not spent that much time in Lub.
[03:38] <KI7MT> I test the installs for UB QA, but that's about it.
[03:38] <ClumsyFairyQueen> chucho, wireshark
[03:38] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT:  know an alternative ?
[03:39] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT:  got an error at the end of upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095416/
[03:39] <chucho> ClumsyFairyQueen , thats what im trying rigth now. Was looking for any other alternatives with more visualization options
[03:40] <ClumsyFairyQueen> chucho, tnv maybe
[03:40] <ClumsyFairyQueen> http://tnv.sourceforge.net/
[03:41] <chucho> for some reason tnv doesnt display anything after "import pcap file"
[03:41] <DaphneGreengrass> sorry, those are the only two I normally use :|
[03:42] <KI7MT> oppositescopez_, Alternative to what? ?    man this apparmor is a pain, as is this silly Chromium browser.
[03:42] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT:  an alternative clock :P
[03:42] <oppositescopez_> KI7MT:  apparently you cant change the colors
[03:43] <jrib> KI7MT, oppositescopez_: actually, this is probably due to whatever /usr/bin/start is.
[03:43] <jrib> KI7MT, oppositescopez_: because "start" probably should be /sbin/start
[03:43] <oppositescopez_> that actualy just started showing up
[03:43] <oppositescopez_> the /usr/bin
[03:44] <oppositescopez_> JESUS
[03:44] <jrib> oppositescopez_: what *is* it?
[03:44] <oppositescopez_> everything just broke
[03:44] <oppositescopez_> uhh im just gonna leave my toolbar alone x.x
[03:45] <oppositescopez_> and the directory usr/bin just started showing up after i deleted chrome
[03:45] <KI7MT> Good Plan, fix one issue at a time :-)
[03:45] <oppositescopez_> i just got like a broken screen with alot of system problems once i removed clock o.0
[03:46] <oppositescopez_> ok ill look at that
[03:46] <DaphneGreengrass> oppositescopez_, you should have seen when i removed networkmanager.... :D
[03:46] <KI7MT> I thinks it's getting on the apparmor profile, and it needs to be updated but I'm just not sure.
[03:47] <oppositescopez_> found the problem, know whats causing it, feel like an idiot!!!!!
[03:48] <oppositescopez_> let me give advise to ALL ubuntu users in the ENTIRE world
[03:48] <oppositescopez_> NEVER< EVER, EVER, install modio through terminal -.- just dont
[03:49] <oppositescopez_> i did that and i thouroughly remember being redirected to porn. multiple times. never know why. its cause it created this file  when i sudo-apt get installed modio http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095429/
[03:50] <oppositescopez_> and this has been trying to run every time i installed anything
[03:50] <oppositescopez_> but because i use  "sudo" to install it wouldnt run the chromes in that file
[03:50] <KI7MT> Hmmmm to much *orn surfing :-)
[03:51] <KI7MT> I was thinking the Chromium profile was m,issing, and that is why it kept hanging, was about to write a Bug up on it :-)
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> oppositescopez_, This is a family channel do not post stuff like that.
[03:51] <oppositescopez_> whoops
[03:52] <oppositescopez_> it was advise to never use modio. completely related :p
[03:52] <oppositescopez_> but it wont happen again ~.~
[03:52] <KI7MT> Ok, so you removed modio .. and then what?
[03:53] <oppositescopez_> haha no all i have to do is delete that file.
[03:53] <KI7MT> Ahh .. ok . then you can update without getting the rsyslog and chromium errors ?
[03:53] <oppositescopez_> i never actualy got around to removing i ti just stopped using it
[03:53] <oppositescopez_> about to find out
[03:54] <KI7MT> kk
[03:54] <oppositescopez_> yep ^_^
[03:55] <KI7MT> So, no errors now ?
[03:55] <oppositescopez_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6095438/ see for yourself
[03:55] <LinuxGold> rm -rf start?!
[03:56] <LinuxGold> whoa...
[03:56] <oppositescopez_> haha :p
[03:56] <KI7MT> YOu shoudl probablt do an autoremove and autoclean also: sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[03:56] <KI7MT> should probably ..
[03:57] <KI7MT> then update, upgrade and then sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[03:58] <oppositescopez_> haha now i can continue the only reason i wanted this error to go away :D
[03:58] <oppositescopez_> trying to get league of legends to run on linux ;D
[03:59] <KI7MT> That's not hard, apparmor is hard ;'-)
[03:59] <oppositescopez_> so this does mean no more errors right?
[04:00] <sqlnoob> I'm trying to change my motd however my changes to /var/run/motd does not become permanent. I'm not trying to install update-motd but trying to do manually. Is there something I'm missing?
[04:00] <KI7MT> oppositescopez_, Yeah, your all sorted, do the updates, then, re-install chromium
[04:01] <oppositescopez_> wow only took all day
[04:01] <KI7MT> My advise, go through the GUI package manager, Synaptic or Ubuntu SW Center.
[04:01] <oppositescopez_> but why would modio do something like that?
[04:01] <KI7MT> command-line is good, but one can get into deep-woods in a hurry.
[04:02] <KI7MT> Without looking at the Modio source code, there's no telling why, I would "NOT" re-install it.
[04:03] <oppositescopez_> not planning on it x.x
[04:03]  * LinuxGold is running Ubuntu desktop inside iMac
[04:03] <KI7MT> Ok, im back to glibc and binutils compiling :-)
[04:04] <oppositescopez_> haha ok, im off to continue doind... well .. whatever it is that i do :p
[04:13] <qin> sqlnoob: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man5/update-motd.5.html
[04:19] <Statyk> exit
[04:19] <Statyk> exit
[04:19] <Statyk> exit
[04:19] <FloodBot1> Statyk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:03] <Alvein> hi all
[05:03] <Alvein> how to stress test to ethernet card ?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> load a bunch of torrents ;)
[05:05] <arctanx> Hi there, I'm trying to create a samba audit file by logging to local5. When I add an rsyslog conf "local5.notice /var/log/samba/audit.log" then "& ~" on the next line, it does stop the messages appearing in /var/log/syslog. Unfortunately audit.log is created but has no content. Could anyone please give me a pointer?
[05:06] <Alvein> Dr_Willis, :) I have the server periodically lost touch with the outside world, I want to find the reason, I think the iron .. Torrent will not help :)
[05:06] <Alvein> iron=hardware )
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> Alvein:  its likely the dmesg messges will mention if theres some sort of hardware issue going on with the netsork card
[05:07] <clue_h> If you stress test it you may overwrite important info in logs that may have told you about the drop
[05:08] <clue_h> or increase the haystack
[05:08] <Alvein> dmesg | grep eth is empty :)
[05:08] <Konigsberg7> I got 12.04 non LTS
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> monitor it for a few days perhaps
[05:09] <Konigsberg7>  is there still support on 12.04 not LTS
[05:09] <Konigsberg7> non*
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> !12.04
[05:09] <Alvein> Dr_Willis, this problem since Monday
[05:09] <Alvein> :)
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> how do you get 12.04 nonlts ?
[05:09] <clue_h> I was thinking the same.
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> Konigsberg7, if it's canonical you have lts
[05:10] <Konigsberg7>  i dont have lts, i have 12.04 regular xubuntu
[05:10] <Konigsberg7>  as in regular meaning non-lts
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> then you should just say you hve Xubuntu 12.04
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> and you should just ask the question
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> lts dosent really mean a whole lot for most people/cases
[05:10] <Konigsberg7> alright, I have Xubuntu 12.04 (non LTS), is still updates still coming to it or is it done?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> Konigsberg7:  it still has updates as far as i know.
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> its not like a bug fix in  for the lts supported packages will see you are on xubuntu and refuse to install
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> i think you are worring way to much about lts/nonlts
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> install ubuntu 12.04.4 or whatever and install xubuntu-desktop package if you want to.
[05:12] <Konigsberg7> no i was just wondering
[05:13] <Konigsberg7> i dont care if support ends or not, i was just curious if it did
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> lts is mainly support for a core set of packages for security fixs
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> and with 12.04 they have sprt of expaneded it a little bit to include a few other things.
[05:13] <Juiffi> hello!
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> 12.04.4 for example has updted kernel and  the X stack i belive
[05:14] <Juiffi> So, after some problems I got my system to run. The C1E support was broken, probably by the mobo
[05:14] <Juiffi> now everythin is stable
[05:15] <Juiffi> but Wolf:ET is annoying me
[05:15] <Juiffi> there is no sound
[05:15] <Juiffi> no matter what I do
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> thats not supriseding
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> that game is ancient. :)
[05:15] <Juiffi> "echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss"
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> i rember sound issues with it like years and years ago.
[05:16] <Juiffi> returns just No such file or directory
[05:16] <Juiffi> Yep, but we still throw LAN-parties and it's an all-time favourite
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> could be the oss support backwards support has finally been removed
[05:17] <Juiffi> well, that pretty much does it then?
[05:17] <Juiffi> it's beyond fix?
[05:17] <Juiffi> FUBAR?
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> i dont have that file here. but i am on 13.10
[05:18] <Juiffi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnemyTerritory#Sound_Issues I've been following this
[05:18] <shajeen> is ubuntu 14.0 released?
[05:18] <Juiffi> pretty much all I could do is done
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> and how old is that guide? ;)
[05:18] <Juiffi> no idea
[05:18] <Juiffi> :D
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 - 2013, 10th month.. (version # is the release date)
[05:18] <Juiffi> last edited 2012
[05:19] <Juiffi> Iäm on the LTS
[05:19] <Juiffi> damn finnish keyboard
[05:19] <Juiffi> ä is right next to '
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> !info oss-compat
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> perhaps you need that package?
[05:19] <Juiffi> Hmm, i'nn install it
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> i just googled for ubuntu oss support   ;) and saw that mentioned
[05:20] <Juiffi> echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss still fails
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> http://superuser.com/questions/491822/how-to-run-oss-dependent-application-dev-dsp
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> is there a /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss ?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> perhaps your path is wrong
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> !info alsa-oss
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> try that one perhaps also. ;)
[05:22] <Juiffi> alsa-oss package seem legit
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> alsa-oss which provides an aoss command. Then run aoss program to magically give program oss emulation.
[05:22] <Juiffi> yep
[05:22] <Juiffi> will try ->
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> 'aoss command'
[05:23]  * Dr_Willis is just hitting up google and the forums and askubuntu.com - no idea of any of this works
[05:23] <Juiffi> Still broken
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> at least some of these tips are dated in 2012 ;) so are not 5+ yr old guides
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> what command did you run exactly?
[05:24] <Juiffi> aoss et?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> you are asking me? I dont know wht you ran. Heh,   been literally 5+ years since i last ran ET
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> i thought there was a remake of it that used the data files but had a more mondern engine
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> you were doing those echo commands as root?
[05:27] <Juiffi> sudo -i does the trick I presume?
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> yep.
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> hmm. this url says it can work with alsa/pulse  near the end.   http://askubuntu.com/questions/17579/how-to-fix-sound-in-wolfenstein-enemy-territory
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/getdeb.net/+bug/996082     mention a bug in the game/lib and a fix also.. and  a link to the .deb at getdeb ;)
[05:30] <Juiffi> Yeah, jsut removed the old .run file and going to getdeb/playdeb
[05:31] <Juiffi> Fed up with trickery
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> yep. seen several guides say the ones from Getdeb worked
[05:40] <Juiffi> Lol, maybe I should actually keep up with the progress
[05:40] <Juiffi> just added playdeb repo and apt-get install enemy-territory
[05:40] <Juiffi> all woks
[05:40] <Juiffi> I'm gettin too old
[05:41] <Juiffi> *work
[05:43] <ackpacket> Is there a difference between putting the ubuntu dvd on a usb, and running the "live cd" option, vs actually installing ubuntu to the usb?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> you can do a live-usb setup  which is the dvd on usb + a peristant save file.
[05:44] <ackpacket> is there a speed difference?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> OR do a full install to a usb flash drive. like you would to a hard drive
[05:44] <ackpacket> right, those are the two options I am examining
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> a USB should be faster then a dvd i imagine
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> I do full installs to USB all the time.
[05:44] <ackpacket> Mine usually fail miserably
[05:44] <Juiffi> I'd put my money on Full install on USB
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> a live+persistant save - is more for testing/short term ussage
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> ive never had a full install on usb fail on me,
[05:45] <ackpacket> It's always something
[05:45] <ackpacket> always
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> ive definatly had live+peristant - have all sorts of weirdness
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> me neither
[05:45] <ackpacket> for instance, once when doing a full install, I was able to select the usb drive at some point
[05:45] <ackpacket> but when it came to the bootloader, it only gave me the option of applying it to my computer's actual HD
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> you can only do so many changes/updates to the persistant save befor it gets goofed up.
[05:46] <ackpacket> another time, the install went smoothly, but when trying to start the OS, it would always freeze
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> the pull down menu for me almost always showe the proper usb drive these days
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> ackpacket, Are you familiar with using the dropdown in the manual option?
[05:46] <ackpacket> wilee-nilee: no
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> i always use the 'manual' partioning  snce i want to make the swap partion  512mb in size in most cases
[05:47] <ackpacket> tbh, I'm unfamiliar with linux on the whole, so I don't even grasp the importance of the various partitions
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> i often make a /boot/ partition because i set up the usb to also boot the ISO files just in case ;)
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> ackpacket, ah, that is important for placing grub.
[05:47] <ackpacket> grub is...?
[05:47] <ackpacket> It has to do with booting, i know that much
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> the bootloader
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Grub needs to go on the MBR of the hard driv you boot
[05:47] <ackpacket> Why does linux need a loader like grub?  Do all OS's use a setup like that?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> if you install to the usb thats on sdc , you need to be sure grub is going onto sdc, NOT sdc1, not sda, not sdb ;)
[05:48] <ackpacket> maybe I shouldn't be bothering this chan with basic questions though
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> ackpacket, You could manual boot it.
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> ackpacket:  windows has its own bootloader its called  'ntldr' dos has its own called. err.. mssys.dos or somting
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> bcd from vista on
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> live cds normally use isolinux as their bootloader
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> live usbs normally use syslinux
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> RaspberryPi - does somthing totally different. ;) but thats because the Pi is Special ;P
[05:50] <ackpacket> Which of these two options would the two of you use for applying a full install to the usb:  I could run the "live-cd" from usbA, and select full install and apply it to usbB, OR I could download the installer that you can run on a windows machine, and select the USB to install to
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> ackpacket:  the installe ryou run on windows. is wubi..  AVOIDE wubi
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> thats not a normal full install at all.
[05:50] <ackpacket> I love the pi, it's saved me so much effort when developing specific devices.  Can you imagine trying to recode TCP/IP in chips like the avr?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> boot live usbA -> install to bigger usb B
[05:51] <ackpacket> is this something I can do on a virtual pc without any problems?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> virtual pc - installing to a real plysical flash drive?
[05:52] <ackpacket> setup virtual pc to boot from ubuntu iso, select full install, apply to real physical flash drive
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> no idea how it would handle the bootloader with that setup. it may get confused
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> if using Vbox. the #vbox guys may know of any issues
[06:13] <Guest71445> hi
[06:14] <Guest71445> its my 1st time logging into this
[06:16] <Guest71445> im new to xubuntu .. after my windows since 12yrs with it
[06:16] <aeon-ltd> ok
[06:17] <aeon-ltd> Guest71445: welcome to the world of *buntus! :)
[06:17] <Guest71445> thanks aeon!!!
[06:18] <ry_> hello
[06:18] <Guest71445> i hope u all must have been using *buntus for a long time
[06:18] <ry_> anyone on?
[06:19] <aeon-ltd> ry_: plenty
[06:19] <Guest71445> im facing wifi problems .. its getting disconnected randomly and it wont connect.. though it shows connected
[06:19] <blackvswhite> Guest71445: hello and welcome ;)
[06:19] <ry_> does anyone have any experience running ubuntu on a macbook? I cant seem to get the drivers to work to use WIFI
[06:19] <blackvswhite> Guest71445: you checked your airplan mode on the card? some card drivers don't handle airplane mode properly
[06:20] <Guest71445> thanks blackvswhite!!!! hope u all guide me enjoying *buntu
[06:20] <aeon-ltd> ry_: i've used ubuntu on a white macbook from 2008, it uses a broadcom and works with the wl
[06:21] <ry_> yeah mines a broadcom card too, and ive found the driver i need to download, but i cant figure out what to do with the zip file
[06:21] <Guest71445> by laptop model is HP 1000 1b02au
[06:21] <ry_> if i try to install with the built-in installer, it just says like nah
[06:22] <Guest71445> i installed xubuntu 13.04 AMD laptop
[06:23] <Ben64> Guest71445: run "lspci | grep -i net" and pastebin the result
[06:23] <Guest71445> ill try it now .. thanks ben64
[06:24] <aeon-ltd> ry_: are you following this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[06:25] <Guest71445>  ben64 this is wat i got "03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)
[06:25] <Guest71445> 07:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. Device 539b
[06:25] <Guest71445> "
[06:26] <Guest71445> thanks aeon im reading it
[06:27] <agthoma> Newbie in the room.....everyone lock your firewalls.
[06:27] <Ben64> Guest71445: aeon-ltd's link was for ry_
[06:27] <aeon-ltd> yeah........
[06:28] <Guest71445> oh hahhaaaa ok
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> easiest way to get stubborn cards going is to either. run a wire :) untill you get the  addational-drivers tool to install the drivers needed.. or buy a nice wifi dongle that works out of the box. and use it to get the addational-drivers ;)
[06:28] <agthoma> So I just loaded Ubuntu 13.04 with Gnome....but I have no sound.  Multiple message boards have been unable to solve my problem.  Anyone know how to fix it?
[06:28] <johnlangat> how do i correct this  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:29] <johnlangat> Am new in ubuntu
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> johnlangat:  only ONE app that is manageing the packages is allowed to run at a time
[06:29] <aeon-ltd> agthoma: fresh install?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> johnlangat:  so close any other apt tools.
[06:29] <agthoma> yes
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> !fixapt
[06:29] <aeon-ltd> agthoma: do you have a dedicated sound card? like a pci one?
[06:30] <agthoma> I'm on a 2008 macbook air....so it's some little ghetto card.
[06:30] <aeon-ltd> ok
[06:30] <aeon-ltd> agthoma: check basic stuff like alsamixer, your source, headphone jack occupied etc
[06:31] <agthoma> already checked the alsa mixer and tried a force reload on it per a message board.  I'm not sure about the headphone jack occupied though
[06:32] <aeon-ltd> agthoma: is your jack physically occupied?
[06:32] <agthoma> Oh....no
[06:32] <agthoma> LOL
[06:32] <johnlangat> how do i lock administration directory ubuntu 12.04
[06:33] <agthoma> I thought that was some kind of fantsy linux lingo. :)
[06:33] <Ben64> johnlangat: what are you really trying to accomplish
[06:34] <johnlangat> am trying to run sudo apt-get update
[06:34] <johnlangat> by i i get message: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:34] <Ben64> ok, well close synaptic or update manager or ubuntu software center or whatever is using it
[06:35] <johnlangat> Ben64:All are closed
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> !fixapt | johnlangat
[06:36] <kostkon> johnlangat, something is still running, give:  ps -A | grep apt
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> you could log out/back in and see if it closes out the stuff.. or try that command the bot mentions above.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> its possible the update manager is doing somting in the background also
[06:37] <Ben64> or "sudo fuser -v /var/lib/dpkg/lock" will show you what is using it
[06:38] <ry_> willing to paypal 20 bucks to whoever can help me solve this wifi driver issue
[06:38] <agthoma> Willing to help....or actually able to solve? :)
[06:39] <Ben64> ry_: use $8 of that $20 to get a better supported wireless usb?
[06:39] <blackvswhite> ry_: ^
[06:39] <kostkon> !broadcom | ry_
[06:40] <kostkon> hmm
[06:40] <Ben64> broadcom is a mess, i opted for a usb card
[06:40] <blackvswhite> same
[06:40] <blackvswhite> i went realtek
[06:40] <blackvswhite> never looked back
[06:40] <Fudus> whoo for china
[06:40] <Fudus> 's rebel province
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> use a usb dongle..  use it to run the addational-drivers tool to let the system install the broadcom stuff
[06:41] <Ben64> i couldnt get my laptop to work with broadcom, i got a usb one instead
[06:42] <johnlangat> Thank guys indeed ubuntu software was using it
[06:43] <kostkon> ry_, already checked in the additional drivers?
[06:44] <Devid> s
[06:46] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[06:46] <ShapeShifter499> how do I start a command at login not as root?
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> ShapeShifter499: pretty sure you can add stuff to sttartup items upon successful login
[06:49] <ry_> kostkon> yes
[06:49] <manojkumar> hello
[06:50] <reisio> ShapeShifter499: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[06:50] <reisio> manojkumar: hi
[06:53] <kimda> Hi. I am noticing a weird networking problem with a ubuntu guest (kvm). I can ping certain addresses but with another I will not get any reply back. On the host I see with tcpdump requests but no replies. Also when i do a apt-cache search it takes a couple of seconds to receive results. Any ideas what could be causing this?
[06:55] <LinuxGold> kimda:  cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6
[06:55] <LinuxGold> see if it is 0 or 1
[06:57] <ShapeShifter499> aeon-ltd, reisio thank you
[06:58] <kimda> LinuxGold, 0
[06:58] <LinuxGold> kimda: check this site out http://askubuntu.com/questions/272796/connecting-to-archive-ubuntu-com-takes-too-long
[06:58] <LinuxGold> follow the solution for apt problem
[06:59] <gagan> hello there..?
[06:59] <gagan> i have some proplem in ubuntu 13.04
[07:00] <reisio> gagan: hi
[07:01] <kimda> LinuxGold, I have changed the settings with sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 but its the same as before
[07:01] <LinuxGold> even after rebooted?
[07:01] <gagan> reisio: i have some problem in   appearence
[07:02] <gagan> theme is not changing
[07:02] <kimda> no i haven't rebooted it. but i think if you change it like that its immediate
[07:02] <gagan> showing only one option  high contrest
[07:02] <LinuxGold> because the output is still 0
[07:02] <LinuxGold> reboot should change to 1 --
[07:03] <kimda> no its 1 now
[07:03] <LinuxGold> cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6 is now 1 right?
[07:05] <kimda> yes
[07:05] <LinuxGold> ok, is kvm network adapter set to bridged?
[07:05] <kimda> yes
[07:05] <LinuxGold> accepts all right?
[07:05] <kimda> yes i can ssh to it..ping it from the outside and from host
[07:06] <kimda> only certain addresses are not pingable
[07:06] <raven> hi
[07:06] <kimda> from within the guest
[07:06] <LinuxGold> ok, is apt still having problem?
[07:06] <kimda> from the host i can ping these addresses
[07:06] <kimda> yes
[07:06] <LinuxGold> interesting...
[07:06] <Andre_designer> how can i get volumecontrol in smaller steps by keyboard??
[07:06] <LinuxGold> guest ip on the same subnet as outside?
[07:07] <kimda> yes
[07:07] <LinuxGold> hmm.. last try -- restart the networking to force guest to get dynamic IP address from dhcp?
[07:08] <raven> xubuntu 12.04.3 lts: build of http://sourceforge.net/projects/electricowl/files/latest/download results in that: http://pastebin.com/KFXiqpJn - all headers installed - whats the problem?
[07:08] <kimda> unfortunately i cannot do this. the address is a public ip and needs to be accessible from outside.
[07:08] <LinuxGold> ah....
[07:08] <Andre_designer> how can i get volumecontrol in smaller steps by keyboard??
[07:08] <kimda> what i was wondering about is that maybe the mac address could be the problem
[07:09] <LinuxGold> mac address shouldn't be a problem, I think?
[07:09] <LinuxGold> I'm suspecting DNS
[07:09] <kimda> well...i've read somewhere that the mac address on a guest should be higher (or lower) than the host
[07:10] <kimda> the host gets resolved
[07:10] <LinuxGold> ifconfig, on both host and guest -- make sure they do not match
[07:10] <LinuxGold> on the mac address listed
[07:10] <Benkinooby> hi, when i am in a console (non-X) $TERM is 'linux' - is ther a way to get that terminal for GUI too?
[07:10] <kutzu> where can i get a list of supported bluetooth dongles for ubuntu?
[07:11] <cfhowlett> !hardware|kutzu,
[07:11] <kimda> they are different
[07:11] <LinuxGold> k, then mac address should not be a problem.
[07:11] <kimda> whats weird is that if i do tcpdump -v icmp on the host
[07:12] <kutzu> i dont see usb dongle on that page
[07:13] <kimda> start a ping say to google.com from the guest that i see replies. When i  do belnet.be I see only requests and no replies
[07:13] <kutzu> can anyone recommend one that is supported by ubuntu?
[07:13] <Aceface> whats up shitheads
[07:13] <Andre_designer> how can i get volumecontrol in smaller steps by keyboard??
[07:13] <cfhowlett> !ops|Aceface,
[07:14] <Andre_designer> anyone??
[07:14] <LinuxGold> kimda: host can see belnet.be?
[07:14] <LinuxGold> but not guest?
[07:14] <kimda> yes it resolved
[07:14] <kimda> resolves to ip
[07:14] <LinuxGold> looks like DNS problem for guest
[07:15] <LinuxGold> DNS is something that I am not really good with.
[07:15] <LinuxGold> check /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:15] <LinuxGold> hold
[07:15] <kimda> but it  resolves to ip so how can this be a dns problem
[07:15] <LinuxGold> like I said before, I'm not really good with DNS
[07:16] <kimda> if i ping the same ipaddress i still am not getting any replies
[07:16] <LinuxGold> anyone know kimda's problem?
[07:19] <convoi> |  © NirjhoR mIRC Script 5.0 ©  © By PowerOfDarkness ©  |
[07:23] <DeonP> hi
[07:23] <convoi>      hi DeonP
[07:24] <DeonP> need some help on networking, got l2tp tunnel up but pppd keeps sending the following,(from tcpdump)
[07:24] <DeonP> {IP truncated-ip - 38 bytes missing! (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 56428, offset 0, flags [+], proto UDP (17), length 1404)
[07:24] <DeonP> hi convoi
[07:25] <DeonP> data from my side to l2tp concentrator, wierd
[07:35] <mercury00> hi all. anyone know the best way to archive a 100gb file.
[07:35] <mercury00> cpio has a limit, either 4 or 8 gb. tar as well, though I don't know the limit.
[07:35] <err_> when selecting a mirror in software sources, is it best to choose ftp or http for downloading? Why?
[07:36] <iceroot> err_: does not matter on your site
[07:36] <mercury00> err_: yeah, the data kind of comes to you the same, genearlly, on your side of things,
[07:37] <raven> xubuntu 12.04.3 lts: build of http://sourceforge.net/projects/electricowl/files/latest/download results in that: http://pastebin.com/KFXiqpJn - all headers installed - whats the problem?
[07:37] <err_> why doesn't it matter, iceroot? I heard that http was better for reconnecting, if the connection keeps dropping out. That is a surprise to me, as ftp is specifically designed for file transfer...
[07:37] <mercury00> err_: if you have both options. If you happen to be using a browser that doesn't understand ftp, use http, if you happen to only have an ftp client available, well.
[07:38] <iceroot> err_: and you are only doing file-transfer in this case
[07:38] <mercury00> err_: yes, well they are different software on the servers end. however, for most uses today, and on modern systems... it's not usually a big thing...
[07:39] <err_> mercury00, iceroot, it is when setting up the ubuntu "software and updates" application, not when browsing a site with firefox...
[07:39] <err_> it is for when using apt-get update...
[07:39] <iceroot> err_: i know
[07:39] <iceroot> err_: and you are only doing file-transfer for that usecase
[07:40] <mercury00> err_: I've just always used http; though I run a few hunderd desktops so use my own local repo and only serve from apache, so no other choice
[07:41] <err_> thanks, mercury00, thanks iceroot!
[07:43] <mercury00> err_: I'm not sure what apt uses for connecting via ftp, that is, what system library it calls specifically, though I assume it connects with an anonymous user and no password, and PASV. without being able to dig into the library and see what the implementation difference is, I'd assume the only other difference is the port.
[07:43] <mercury00> err_: ftp ought to default to 21, while http is going to use 80. if either of those ports are blocked, spammed, or otherwise troublesome, if might make a difference
[07:44] <err_> why does ubuntu not ship with aptitude? the default is apt-get. aptitude has advantages...
[07:44] <somsip> !aptitude | err_
[07:45] <mercury00> err_: that, I do not know. I always install it just so I can do 'aptitude search ....'
[07:45] <err_> thanks, somsip - i didn't know that...
[07:45] <mercury00> ah, thanks ubottu, that was useful
[07:45] <somsip> err_: np
[07:46] <sliddjur> Anyone here having trouble using citrix reciever on ubuntu 13, 64bit?
[07:46] <sliddjur> My PC hangs atleast once a day
[07:46] <mercury00> so I heard pax can handle very large files; is there any other tar-like utility that can do so?
[07:46] <mercury00> I frequently need to 'tar' several 100gb files into a single file for long term storage. and tar/cpio don't handle them,
[07:47] <mercury00> 'field width not sufficient' and such; curious if anybody on the ubuntu channels might know a good alternative
[07:49] <iceroot> if i want to share my internet connection (create my own AP when already connected with cable) the new wifi network i want to create is only offering WEP, is that a bug in network-manager? or does my wifi card has to support WPA for hosting own networks?
[07:49] <Artem_Kalinovsky> Hello guys!
[07:50] <cfhowlett> Artem_Kalinovsky, greetings
[07:52] <Artem_Kalinovsky> I have an idea to start  OpenSource project.
[07:52] <Artem_Kalinovsky> It will be a card game BlackJack and I wanna to publish it in Ubuntu App Store. What is your opinion about it?
[07:52] <cfhowlett> !ot|Artem_Kalinovsky,
[07:54] <clawsOfBanana> has the git v1.8 been released into the ubuntu ppas?
[07:54] <somsip> !info git
[07:55] <somsip> clawsOfBanana: we dont do PPA here
[07:55] <clawsOfBanana> oh... okay... sorry... didn't know
[07:55] <auronandace> Artem_Kalinovsky: perhaps try #ubuntu-app-devel
[07:55] <clawsOfBanana> thanks somsip
[08:06] <mercury00> night all
[08:14] <Bagheera> morning all
[08:15] <ObrienDave> Bagheera::: evening :)
[08:17] <Bagheera> evening on the west coast?
[08:18] <SwashBuckla> hmm, my iPod shuffle (latest generation) has been wiped by Rhythmbox when I tried to sync with the library. Now I get the voice "Please use iTunes to restore this iPod" when I listen to my iPod shuffle. How do I fix this?
[08:18] <Bagheera> SwashBuckla, there's a program to sync itunes correctly
[08:19] <SwashBuckla> Bagheera: OK, what is that program?
[08:19] <Bagheera> GTKPod
[08:19] <SwashBuckla> Bagheera: and if I use that, will that be able to restore my iPod so that I can listen to music again?
[08:19] <Bagheera> you should be able to
[08:19] <SwashBuckla> (cool IRC name by the way)
[08:20] <Bagheera> itunes uses a table to refer to the tracks on it, and gtkpod can update the table
[08:20] <SwashBuckla> ok
[08:20] <Bagheera> SwashBuckla: the name is cause my son looked like Mowgli when he was born
[08:21] <SwashBuckla> :3
[08:21] <SwashBuckla> awesome
[08:22] <SwashBuckla> Bagheera: do you look like a panther?
[08:22] <SwashBuckla> :D
[08:23] <Bagheera> SwashBuckla: well i'm dark and like climbing things
[08:23] <Bagheera> though only when drunk
[08:28] <nugroho> WHA420355 WHA800477
[08:29] <nugroho> linuz torvald and richard stallman
[08:29] <nugroho> irc stand for internet relay chat
[08:30] <nugroho> linuz torvald and developer build linux software
[08:30] <somsip> nugroho: and that's enough now
[08:30] <nugroho> thanks you somsip
[08:30] <somsip> nugroho: do you have a support question?
[08:36] <edward_> hi
[08:36] <Hanumaan> how to scroll through desktops on both monitors as of now only one monitor is getting scorolled I am using gnome dekstop ?
[08:38] <rhumbot> hi all, i have 2 versions of ubuntu on my laptop. version 12.10 and 13.04. 12.10 has texlive-full package installed
[08:39] <rhumbot> can i copy this package to 13.04 without reinstalling?
[08:39] <cfhowlett> rhumbot, not advisable to mix distros in that manner ...
[08:40] <rhumbot> actually, all i need to get is a couple of files from the package, not the installation itself
[08:40] <rhumbot> how can i locate the package ? :/
[08:40] <drasko> screen
[08:41] <gRAVIty2> how do I share screen shots?
[08:41] <DJones> !imagebin | gRAVIty2
[08:41] <somsip> !paste | gRAVIty2
[08:41] <somsip> ah - wrong one. sorry
[08:42] <gRAVIty2> bot is cool :)
[08:42] <gRAVIty2> thanks DJones and somsip
[08:43] <DJones> somsip: They both give the same info
[08:45] <somsip> DJones: ah yes. cheers
[08:46] <pseudonymous> So I just came back into my room today to find both my machines having gone through a powercycle for some reason (could be thermal, could be someone tripping a wire, I don't know) -- one machine booted up nicely (this one) - the other will not boot anymore. All normal kernels hang with a black screen, the recovery kernel entry hangs after "loading initial ramdisk"
[08:47] <ObrienDave> pseudonymous... any external USB drives connected?
[08:47] <gRAVIty2> Here is the problem: The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly
[08:48] <gRAVIty2> I have taken screen shots of the error details and you can them here. They are in continuation 1) http://imagebin.org/270644 2)http://imagebin.org/270645 3)http://imagebin.org/270644
[08:49] <gRAVIty2> I have taken screen shots of the error details and you can them here. They are in continuation 1) http://imagebin.org/270644 2) http://imagebin.org/270645 3) http://imagebin.org/270644 - Error: The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly
[08:49] <pseudonymous> ObrienDave: nope. I've got an onboard nic, an extra 10GB nic w. 2 slots, 1 mouse, 1 keyboard and a monitor via DVI, that's it
[08:50] <ObrienDave> umm, that happens to me if I forget to unplug my USB to SATA adapter
[08:51] <pseudonymous> ObrienDava: Yes, I'm sort of thinking it's got to do with it being unable to find the device to boot off of, but it's a regular ubuntu install on a new haswell rig so it's all Grub2 and UEFI mess :( I haven't a clue where to begin debugging
[08:51] <ObrienDave> pseudonymous... any live ISO you can try booting and repairing with?
[08:52] <ObrienDave> oh lordy, UFEI, not my cup of tea
[08:53] <teddy___> Hello!
[08:54] <ObrienDave> *** UEFI *** oops
[08:54] <gRAVIty2> teddy: can you help me with this? Error: The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly. Error details - hey are in continuation 1) http://imagebin.org/270644 2) http://imagebin.org/270645 3) http://imagebin.org/270644
[08:55] <ObrienDave> gRAVIty2... i notice that link 1 and 3 are the same
[08:56] <gRAVIty2> ObrienDave: sorry. link 3 is http://imagebin.org/270646
[08:56] <teddy___> I have a problem with installing wxpython on ubuntu: i want to use wxpython with python2.7 (installed with altinstall to leave the default python installation untouched). How can i let python2.7 recognize the wxpython install from synaptic?
[08:56] <ObrienDave> gRAVIty2... no biggie, thanks
[08:56] <gRAVIty2> Let me restate the whole problem again just for the sake of correctness. Error: The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly. Error details - hey are in continuation 1) http://imagebin.org/270644 2) http://imagebin.org/270645 3) http://imagebin.org/270646
[09:01] <gRAVIty2> ObrienDave: any thoughts on the problem?
[09:01] <pseudonymous> ObrienDave: Just finished bothering someone for a USB pen :) I'll have to install ubuntu onto it somehow, but I imagine there's a guide for that, I'll see how that goes
[09:02] <ObrienDave> pseudonymous... use good comp to DL ISO and UNetBootin to install on USB stick
[09:02] <Kurza> hello, I run ubuntu 10.04 server and I have libssl0.9.8(k) installed as a package that a few other packages depends on. However, to install another package that I want installed I need libssl0.9.8(m) or above. Does anyone know how can I do that small upgrade (all the other packages that depends on libssl0.9.8 can use higher version of it)
[09:03] <ObrienDave> gRAVIty2... sorry no, don't know enough about compiz
[09:03] <nugroho> SOC155694 YMH297433
[09:03] <gRAVIty2> Sure. thanks for your time
[09:04] <lessless> hi  folks! After ati'
[09:04] <ObrienDave> *** no feeding the troll *** maybe he'll go away
[09:04] <lessless> ati's proprietary driver installation gtk-window-decorator  won't load anymore
[09:05] <lessless> the erro is (gtk-window-decorator:4105): Gdk-CRITICAL **: IA__gdk_drawable_get_depth: assertion `GDK_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable)' failed
[09:06] <lessless> and the only solution which I found (export GTK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1) is not helping
[09:06] <lessless> can someone assist me please?
[09:07] <cfhowlett> !patience|lessless,
[09:07] <nightwalkerkg> Hi,i have some problems with Ubuntu 12.04. After the boot logo (Ubuntu with those 5 red donts) finish loading my monitor just turns off.
[09:07] <ObrienDave> nightwalkerkg... how soon after? screensaver maybe?
[09:08] <[Gentoo]> nightwalkerkg: can you reach a console by ctrl alt and f3
[09:08] <nightwalkerkg> ObrienDave: It's on boot,just after it the Ubuntu logo shows.
[09:08] <nightwalkerkg> [Gentoo]: Yes i can.
[09:09] <ObrienDave> away
[09:09] <foo357> Hello, I'm having a problem with a full boot sector. apt-get can't do anything about it, if I try to remove old 'linux images' it fails (due to lack of space in /boot)
[09:11] <nightwalkerkg> [Gentoo]: Any ideas ?
[09:12] <UserError> is add-apt-repository main a valid arg, and can there be more than one, ie add-apt-repository main universe restricted multiverse
[09:13] <[Gentoo]> nightwalkerkg: sorry bit busy, was this after a driver update or something
[09:13] <nightwalkerkg> Nope,i turned my pc off yesterday and when i tried it now it won't boot.
[09:13] <nightwalkerkg> I have a dual boot with windows 7.
[09:14] <[Gentoo]> nightwalkerkg: not sure tbh. how long have you left it on the blank screen for?
[09:14] <nightwalkerkg> About 5 minutes.
[09:14] <ObrienDave> nightwalkerkg... will windows boot?
[09:14] <nightwalkerkg> Yes it will.
[09:14] <nightwalkerkg> I am on windows now.
[09:15] <nightwalkerkg> [Gentoo]: It's not really a blank screen,the monitor turns off.
[09:15] <[Gentoo]> nightwalkerkg: this might sound stupid, but try draining the power completely, turn off the pc and unplug it, press the power button few times then turn it back on
[09:15] <nightwalkerkg> Actualy it's not stupid. xD
[09:15] <nightwalkerkg> Let me try.
[09:15] <[Gentoo]> well its helped me out with some problems before
[09:16] <ObrienDave> dang Xchat tab complete isn't working. grrrrrrrr
[09:17] <[Gentoo]> use a proper client :)
[09:17] <dheeraj> Hii alll..
[09:17] <[Gentoo]> xchat isnt even maintained any more
[09:17] <bazhang> ObrienDave, make sure its set to last spoken, and not a-z
[09:17] <ObrienDave> PFFFFFFT! ;)
[09:17] <dheeraj> I want to format my external hardisk
[09:18] <[Gentoo]> dheeraj: ok
[09:18] <bazhang> !gparted | dheeraj
[09:18] <UserError> "add-apt-repository main universe restricted multiverse" is this valid from a minimal install?
[09:19] <UserError> after the common deb is apt'd
[09:19] <bazhang> UserError, thats for adding ppa, so doubtful in the extreme
[09:19] <BrixSat> Hello my gdm in log says "no screens found" http://paste.ubuntu.com/6096252/  i have no image on screen besided a blank line
[09:19] <ObrienDave> [Gentoo]... working again
[09:19] <bazhang> UserError, ppa dont have that format
[09:20] <[Gentoo]> ObrienDave: good
[09:21] <cfhowlett> xchat last compiled in February 2013  ...
[09:21] <ObrienDave> LOL nightwalker quit. no wonder it don't work LMAO
[09:21] <[Gentoo]> i werent saying use another client because of that problem
[09:21] <[Gentoo]> ObrienDave: no he rebooted
[09:22] <ObrienDave> [Gentoo]... so i c
[09:22] <nightwalkerkg> [Gentoo]: Lol,i pressed the power button on the monitor and i got a message that there is no input source coming from my pc (something like that) and it asked me to select the right source.
[09:22] <[Gentoo]> nightwalkerkg: and it worked?
[09:22] <nightwalkerkg> Nope. :D
[09:22] <[Gentoo]> did you drain the power on the pc?
[09:23] <nightwalkerkg> My monitor is connected to my pc via HDMI cable,so ubuntu doesn't recognize the cable or there is something really wrong with the drivers.
[09:23] <nightwalkerkg> [Gentoo]: Yes i did.
[09:23] <[Gentoo]> its not the cable if windows works
[09:23] <[Gentoo]> no idea, you could reinstall the drivers / check for logs from the console
[09:23] <[Gentoo]> do you get any login sound or anything when the monitors off?
[09:24] <nightwalkerkg> Let me try to connect it via vga.
[09:24] <[Gentoo]> good idea
[09:24] <nightwalkerkg> Not sure,my speakers are off. xD
[09:24] <ObrienDave> nightwalkerkg... sounds like a grub problem, maybe
[09:24] <[Gentoo]> ObrienDave: no he can get to a console
[09:24] <ObrienDave> ok, *lurking*
[09:25] <ihre> Im trying to install vmware-workstation, but the installer segfaults. How can I identify the cause? I tried gdb, but the file format isnt recognized (vmware-workstation-full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle": not in executable format: File format not recognized).
[09:27] <BrixSat> Hello my gdm in log says "no screens found" http://paste.ubuntu.com/6096252/ i have a login shell only
[09:27] <sasho> Hello guys & gals.. I installed drupal using apt-get (for the first time in my life, till now I was doing that manually). How do I open the web interface now? localhost/drupal or drupal6 isn't working.
[09:28] <BrixSat> sasho: how did you install drupal? via apt-get?
[09:28] <sasho> BrixSat, yes, as I already said :)
[09:28] <BrixSat> you can open the apache config and see where it heads to
[09:28] <dheeraj_> any suggestions..?? what to do.
[09:29] <[Gentoo]> dheeraj_: what are you trying to do, format your external drive?
[09:29] <BrixSat> sasho:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal
[09:29] <sasho> ah, damn, I figured out. Thanks
[09:29] <dheeraj_> [Gentoo]: yes..
[09:29] <[Gentoo]> dheeraj_: do you want to use it only on linux or windows as well?
[09:29] <dheeraj_> I need to format ir
[09:29] <sasho> Somehow I got lighttp and not apache..
[09:29] <BrixSat> dheeraj_:  whats the prob=
[09:29] <raywan> how can I list installed packages that have missing files (broken)
[09:29] <[Gentoo]> dheeraj_: run sudo fdisk -l, fond the drive name
[09:29] <dheeraj_> i need to use it only on linux
[09:29] <[Gentoo]> find*
[09:30] <elfranne> how can I list files (and size) on / but only on the / partition ?
[09:30] <[Gentoo]> du -h /
[09:31] <[Gentoo]> dheeraj_: did you find the drive letter
[09:31] <[Gentoo]> /dev/sdb or whatever it might be
[09:31] <dheeraj_> wait
[09:31] <dheeraj_> I got that
[09:31] <dheeraj_> yes
[09:31] <UserError> can you chain the default ppas in ubuntu?
[09:31] <UserError> like, adding them all in one command
[09:31] <[Gentoo]> dheeraj_: ok, what is it
[09:32] <dheeraj_> also an error
[09:32] <[Gentoo]> dheeraj_: error on what
[09:33] <dheeraj_> Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table
[09:33] <dheeraj_> [Gentoo]: /dev/sdc
[09:33] <[Gentoo]> dheeraj_: thats ok
[09:33] <dheeraj_> On fdisk -l
[09:33] <dheeraj_> i got this error
[09:33] <dheeraj_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[09:33] <dheeraj_> sorry not that
[09:33] <[Gentoo]> it needs creating thats all
[09:33] <[Gentoo]> you can create a mbr partition table with fdisk or gpt with gdisk
[09:34] <[Gentoo]> just run sudo fdisk /dev/sdc   press n then press enter all the way to the end
[09:34] <[Gentoo]> then w
[09:34] <dheeraj_> Ohkk let me try
[09:35] <nightwalkerkg> [Gentoo]: Nope,it's the same with VGA. No signal comming from the pc. Like the GPU decides to turn off.
[09:35] <[Gentoo]> that will create 1 partition with a mbr partition table, then you can run mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdc1
[09:35] <[Gentoo]> and its all done
[09:37] <Wiz_KeeD> Hey guys
[09:37] <Wiz_KeeD> CatKiller: are you around?
[09:37] <[Gentoo]> nightwalkerkg: go into the console and check the logs for anything
[09:38] <sliddjur> Hello, I have a VPN Server at home. It generated a zip file for me. How do I use it to connect from ubuntu? I am at the create new connection window, but I cant see where to put my config file?
[09:38] <[Gentoo]> /var/log/Xorg.0.log  dmesg etc
[09:38] <pseudonymous> Ok, does anyone know if there's a quick way to ascertain what sort of boot mode grub2 uses ? (bios/uefi) ? I'm running off of a USB pen and I'll need to get this system bootable again
[09:39] <Wiz_KeeD> I want to install Xchat and that usually works with just sudo apt-get install xchat but now that i do a search i see a few other versions even one for gnome: http://pastie.org/8319355
[09:39] <Wiz_KeeD> what is the best solution?
[09:39] <[Gentoo]> Wiz_KeeD: plain xchat if you had to choose
[09:39] <Wiz_KeeD> What would be the difference [Gentoo] ?
[09:40] <DJones> Wiz_KeeD: From memory, xchat-gnome is a simplified version of xchat
[09:40] <[Gentoo]> its the normal version, but if hexchat is in the repos use that
[09:40] <[Gentoo]> as its updated and maintained
[09:40] <blahblah123> DAE have issues linking laptop via hdmi cable not outputting sound??
[09:40] <lessless> hi folks! how to hide panel on the second monitor? :D
[09:40] <ObrienDave> pseudonymous... there are special settings for UEFI. let me see if i can find the link
[09:41] <Wiz_KeeD> Simplified in what way?
[09:41] <Wiz_KeeD> I'm not installing one package without asking you guys beforehand
[09:41] <Wiz_KeeD> not after what happened last time
[09:42] <[Gentoo]> Wiz_KeeD: the gnome one prob has some desktop integration stuff
[09:42] <[Gentoo]> you're not gona break anything installing either of them
[09:42] <Wiz_KeeD> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChat-GNOME - looks ugly too
[09:42] <DJones> Wiz_KeeD: Simplified as in it doesn't do everything that xchat does, I don't think it has a user list, things like that
[09:42] <Wiz_KeeD> And I always do a sudo apt-get update before, right?
[09:42] <ObrienDave> pseudonymous... you running Win8?
[09:42] <[Gentoo]> Wiz_KeeD: use "xchat" if you really want that client
[09:42] <[Gentoo]> Wiz_KeeD: yes
[09:42] <Wiz_KeeD> Thank you [Gentoo] and DJones will install that now that i'm sure
[09:43] <Wiz_KeeD> ok ran sudo apt-get update, now just sudo apt-get install xchat?
[09:43] <[Gentoo]> yes
[09:43] <Wiz_KeeD> nothing else? (It's a fresh fresh install, 2 minutes ago)
[09:43] <lessless> or is it possible to move launch panel to the right?
[09:43] <[Gentoo]> nope
[09:43] <ObrienDave> [Gentoo]... which client you using?
[09:43] <Wiz_KeeD> okay sir
[09:43] <[Gentoo]> ObrienDave: weechat
[09:43] <blahblah123> Hey team, is it possible to remove the words "Unbuntu Desktop" from the top menu bar?
[09:43] <blahblah123> Its only generally viewable when on the desktop
[09:44] <pseudonymous> ObrienDave: nope, both machines run Linux :) The one that rebooted fine is Arch Linux, the one that I'm trying to save right now is the Ubuntu box.
[09:45] <ObrienDave> yes, but it's a dual boot, yes? Win8?
[09:45] <Wiz-KeeD> Okay!
[09:46] <Wiz_KeeD> We got xchat up and running
[09:46] <ObrienDave> have you checked BIOS (UEFI) settings lately?
[09:46] <Wiz_KeeD> Now who can help me with one of the most difficult task ahead? Installing the proper drivers :-s
[09:46] <[Gentoo]> Wiz_KeeD: now you can mess around with all the settings :)
[09:46] <[Gentoo]> Wiz_KeeD: for what
[09:46] <[Gentoo]> graphics? most drivers are in the kernel
[09:46] <Wiz_KeeD> Dell Inspiron...some version idk which
[09:46] <[Gentoo]> for things like sound etc
[09:47] <pseudonymous> ObrienDave: nope, the downed PC is Linux-only, both of them are :)
[09:47] <ObrienDave> pseudonymous... have you checked BIOS (UEFI) settings lately?
[09:47] <[Gentoo]> Wiz_KeeD: well what doesnt work?
[09:47] <Wiz_KeeD> graphics mostly, last time I had ubuntu 12.04 if i upped/downed the brightness fast the monitor would just color up ugly and freeze
[09:47] <Wiz_KeeD> I'm afraid to do that now...
[09:47] <[Gentoo]> Wiz_KeeD: if its integrated graphics then you're likely using them now
[09:47] <ObrienDave> pseudonymous... but it still has bios settings
[09:47] <Wiz_KeeD> I don't think so [Gentoo] some ATI which is not integrated
[09:47] <Wiz_KeeD> I can try
[09:48] <[Gentoo]> Wiz_KeeD: atis default kernel driver is the most stable
[09:48] <Wiz_KeeD> HMM...now it works [Gentoo] !
[09:48] <ObrienDave> pseudonymous... how old is it? more than 5 years?
[09:48] <pseudonymous> ObrienDave: it does indeed, or rather some graphical UEFI boot manager thing. It still registers the boot partition as my samsung ssd and grub does indeed load all the time, it's only at the handoff point (loading initial ramdisk) that things freeze up
[09:48] <Wiz_KeeD> really? ok then I won't touch them
[09:48] <[Gentoo]> Wiz_KeeD: nah i wouldnt
[09:48] <Wiz_KeeD> I do get an error about wireless card when the system is booting up
[09:48] <Wiz_KeeD> Could not locate firmware or something like that
[09:49] <[Gentoo]> are you using the wireless now?
[09:49] <pseudonymous> Wiz_KeeD: doesn't Ubuntu give you a popup ? THere's usually a notice in the top right through which you can elect to install proprietary drivers, ubuntu would handle the rest for you
[09:50] <[Gentoo]> pseudonymous: with ATI cards unless you have a need for more 3d accel, the default drivers are quicker and more stable
[09:51] <Hanumaan> how to move scroll through desktops in both the monitors ?
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> Guess what [Gentoo], it crashed
[09:51] <[Gentoo]> what did
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> I would make MILIONS for the ubuntu as a bug tester I swear to God
[09:52] <[Gentoo]> lol
[09:52] <Wiz_KeeD> I upped and downed the brightness and volume from the keyboard
[09:52] <Wiz_KeeD> and It blacked out while repeating a sound
[09:52] <[Gentoo]> no idea about that issue
[09:52] <Wiz_KeeD> And I still get the wireless card error on bood
[09:52] <Wiz_KeeD> boot
[09:52] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah...no one does and ever will, that's just my luck
[09:52] <[Gentoo]> you might need some prop driver for it
[09:52] <[Gentoo]> i dont know
[09:53] <[Gentoo]> but i got to go out do school runs good luck
[09:53] <ObrienDave> pseudonymous... here's the UEFI settings link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[09:53] <pseudonymous> Gentoo: oh I'm not surprised :) But I never use ATI. I have nvidia and as of late I'm moving to intel seeing as they're picking up speed and the drivers are great (stability-wise)
[09:54] <pseudonymous> ObrienDave: thanks :) I'm still trying to reinstall the bootloader, of course it's all on an LVM2 partition to boot.. :/
[09:54] <ObrienDave> oh geez. glwt
[09:56] <ObrienDave> brb
[09:56] <pseudonymous> ObrienDave: yea :/ I know this is the wrong forum to say this, but there's a reason I run Arch Linux otherwise, I know it's never more complex than what I set up to begin with. Straight partitions, MBR and Syslinux is wee bit easier than GPT,GRUB2,LVM2 :/
[09:57] <hillwellwang> what  is it?
[09:58] <pseudonymous> Wiz_KeeD: about the brightness adjustment, it will, on a LOT of PC's just allow you to adjust all the way to 0% brightness (=> black screen), just try bumping it back up. At least this has happened on a number of my laptops
[09:59] <ObrienDave> b
[09:59] <nightwalkerkg> ObrienDave: The damn drivers caused the problem,just had to reinstall them.
[09:59] <ObrienDave> nightwalkerkg... oh cool! glad you worked it out
[09:59] <nightwalkerkg> Thanks guys.
[10:00] <ObrienDave> welcome :))
[10:02] <ObrienDave> need coffee, brb
[10:04] <Wiz_KeeD> pseudonymous, this is not the case, it freezez and nothing responds
[10:04] <Wiz_KeeD> And past case was it turned the screen into a huge number of horrid colors
[10:05] <Wiz_KeeD> Installing skype for ubuntu is best of from repository or from skype main site?
[10:06] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, from repos is best ...
[10:06] <Wiz_KeeD> There is no skype in repos according to apt-cache search
[10:06] <Wiz_KeeD> pidgin-skype
[10:06] <DJones> !skype | Wiz_KeeD
[10:07] <Yaann> Hi
[10:07] <Wiz_KeeD> Record on skype? ah
[10:07] <Wiz_KeeD> I'll read that DJones, thank you!!
[10:08] <cfhowlett> DJones, apt-cache policy skype shows it's in the partner packages on 12.04
[10:08] <Wiz_KeeD> Is this really ok guys? sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[10:08] <Wiz_KeeD> Some people say: "you don't want to install a packages that was not compiled for your platform. Either get a 64bit version or compile it yourself. "
[10:08] <Wiz_KeeD> What do you think DJones ?
[10:10] <Wiz_KeeD> There's a part of my answer "It is highly recommended to use the package provided in the Canonical partner repository, not the one distributed from the skype website, as the skype website currently points users to the wrong package for 64-bit systems of Ubuntu 11.10 and above.
[10:10] <zhangxun> hello !everybody
[10:10] <zhangxun> is anyone there?
[10:10] <ObrienDave> back
[10:10] <DJones> Wiz_KeeD: If you're on a 64 bit machine, I think the installer for Skype is aimed at 32 bit machines, so I think you;'d have to do that, I don't use skype so I can't say how well it works, hopefully somebody else here can help though
[10:11] <Wiz_KeeD> I do use 64
[10:11] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... Skype works fine
[10:11] <DJones> !pm > zhangxun
[10:11] <Wiz_KeeD> it's not in the package manager
[10:12] <zhangxun> ok
[10:12] <zhangxun> I have saw that
[10:12] <nerdtron> !pm | nerdtron
[10:12] <zhangxun> thanks
[10:12] <IamTrying> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6096399/ - Again SSH crashed
[10:13] <IamTrying> How do i login to SSH SErver?
[10:16] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... Skype website only gives you a 32bit version
[10:17] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... D/L the 32 bit file from Skype. Install the .deb file. it will work
[10:18] <nerdtron> IamTrying, ssh-keygen on your local machine, then try to connect again
[10:19] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... what version of Ubuntu you running?
[10:19] <nerdtron> IamTrying, line 145-146 are Input/Output error... are you sure the files/hard drive on the remote machine are in good health?
[10:21] <jcgs> IamTrying, I agree with nerdtron, it looks like a problem at the other end, can you log in to another server, or log in to that machine locally?
[10:23] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... this will get you the latest 32bit file. http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-64
[10:25] <bmxscott1993> need help i getting tird of install all the programs i us on ubuntu and want them pre installed on a iso ubuntu dvd what do i use for it to make a like live cd that boot up like the normal iso dvd what it all normal just with a couple more preinstall program on it so i do not have to find them all the time with the lay out i got now just on a dvd
[10:26] <[Gentoo]> bmxscott1993: you could do it that way, or write a script that installs all of them
[10:27] <bmxscott1993> not good with script but tell me more on how
[10:27] <Pymous_> Hello !
[10:28] <Pymous_> It's probably a dump question, but I've recently installed Ubuntu 13, and I have a small brain issue
[10:28] <[Gentoo]> bmxscott1993: just a 1 line script that would apt-get install package 1 2 3 4 etc
[10:28] <[Gentoo]> would do
[10:28] <ObrienDave> bmxscott1993... I think Ubuntu Customization Kit will work for you
[10:28] <geirha> Pymous_: There's no Ubuntu 13. Do you mean 13.04? or the upcoming 13.10?
[10:28] <Pymous_> In the explorator (files, directory, ...) how do I enter my own path ? In the older version, I had to double click on the button on top
[10:28] <Pymous_> 13.04 geirha
[10:28] <[Gentoo]> Pymous_: does pressing escape work?
[10:28] <geirha> Pymous_: Ctrl+L iirc
[10:29] <Pymous_> geirha > Not working :(
[10:29] <Pymous_> [Gentoo] > Nop, sorry
[10:29] <bmxscott1993> im just got that but there a nother one called ubuntu builder but can not find it in marked
[10:29] <geirha> Pymous_: Hm. They might have disabled that feature then.
[10:30] <ObrienDave> bmxscott1993... let me look again
[10:30] <ObrienDave> brb
[10:31] <bmxscott1993> ok
[10:31] <cfhowlett> bmxscott1993, see this:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/best-way-to-backup-all-settings-list-of-installed-packages-tweaks-etc
[10:33] <ObrienDave> back
[10:34] <LrdArc> how can I connect to authenticated proxy that contains "@" on username??
[10:35] <[Gentoo]> LrdArc: have you tried it in quotes?
[10:36] <LrdArc> not yet
[10:38] <ObrienDave> bmxscott1993... try ubuntu-defaults-builder
[10:39] <lesshaste> I got this message " Because of incompatible library changes, the upgrade of the GNU libc library will leave you unable to authenticate to these programs. You should arrange for these programs to be restarted or stopped before continuing this upgrade"
[10:39] <lesshaste> how do I do that?
[10:39] <bmxscott1993> ok
[10:39] <lesshaste> "One or more running instances of xscreensaver or xlockmore have been detected on this system."
[10:39] <lesshaste> that was a crucial missing part :)
[10:43] <siberiannerd> should i write a bug report if expert install from 12.04.3 cd1 was finished without warnings and after reboot i end up with grub's "error: file not found." ?
[10:48] <ikonia> siberiannerd: no
[10:48] <siberiannerd> ikonia, what should i do?
[10:48] <ikonia> fix the problem
[10:48] <ikonia> and not cross-post the same question in mulitple ubuntu channels
[10:48] <siberiannerd> ikonia, i tried twice with alternate and server, just asked for server
[10:49] <ikonia> siberiannerd: trying twice is not fixing the problem
[10:49] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, did you actually install grub?  where?  how do we reproduce the problem?  especially since most people haven't had your experience;
[10:49] <ikonia> it's not even understanding the problem
[10:49] <ikonia> siberiannerd: the first qestion I'd ask, is did you use a DVD, or a USB,
[10:51] <siberiannerd> ikonia, hdd
[10:51] <siberiannerd> cfhowlett, i can describe the steps to reproduce if you want me to
[10:51] <siberiannerd> if i should to deal with it properly
[10:52] <ikonia> siberiannerd: hdd ?
[10:52] <ikonia> you used a hard disk to install from ?
[10:52] <siberiannerd> ikonia, hard disk drive
[10:52] <siberiannerd> yeah, why not?
[10:52] <ikonia> siberiannerd: how did you install from hard disk ?
[10:53] <siberiannerd> as it described by official manpages for debian installer and anywhere
[10:53] <siberiannerd> without 3rd party tools to put an image to drive
[10:53] <ikonia> if you can't be bothered answering questions - we can't help
[10:53] <siberiannerd> ok, ikonia, dd if=iso of=hdd
[10:53] <siberiannerd> and here we go
[10:53] <ikonia> siberiannerd: that don't install it
[10:53] <ikonia> siberiannerd: so please don't try to be clever when YOU are the one asking for help
[10:54] <siberiannerd> ikonia, well you're terribly wrong
[10:54] <ikonia> oh, really, dd'ing an install image to a harddisk = an install ?
[10:54] <siberiannerd> you never read about debian installation procedure from hdd?
[10:54] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, umm, no that is NOT an installation procedure for ubuntu.
[10:54] <siberiannerd> sorry to hear that
[10:54] <ikonia> siberiannerd: I'm asking what YOU did
[10:54] <siberiannerd> i jsut said what i did
[10:54] <siberiannerd> i'm not lying
[10:54] <ikonia> siberiannerd: that is not an install
[10:54] <ikonia> siberiannerd: that is just putting an install iso onto a hard disk
[10:55] <siberiannerd> i've put the installation media iso like that
[10:55] <siberiannerd> after what i specified nodmraid nomodset expertinstall
[10:55] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, suggest you try this: make a boot ISO on usb.  Boot from that ISO and choose install.
[10:56] <siberiannerd> ikonia, should i continue describing the steps over stages?
[10:56] <ObrienDave> siberiannerd... an ISO has to be burned to a DVD or CD or installed onto a USB stick
[10:56] <siberiannerd> no it shouldn't
[10:56] <ikonia> siberiannerd: just lost total interest thanks to you trying to be smart with your answers, see if someone else wants to help you
[10:56] <siberiannerd> works flawless
[10:56] <ObrienDave> ok, if you say so
[10:56] <siberiannerd> ikonia, i didn't try to you was just pointing that i was doing something wrong
[10:57] <siberiannerd> come on guys i'm not trying to act clever or anything like that
[10:57] <siberiannerd> i came with a problem i can't troubleshoot properly
[10:57] <ikonia> it doesn't come across like that
[10:57] <ikonia> as dd'ing the install image to the hard disk is NOT an install
[10:57] <ikonia> it's dd'ing the install image to a hard disk - nothing more
[10:57] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, listen up.  copying to the HDD is NOT installing.  what you did is NOT an installation.
[10:57] <siberiannerd> well let me read some manpages or howtos so i could behave more polite or being more informative
[10:58] <siberiannerd> oh ok
[10:58] <bazhang> !attitude | siberiannerd
[10:58] <siberiannerd> uhm i know that
[10:58] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, try this:    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[10:59] <siberiannerd> so i launched the setup from alternate image that was written to hdd via dd, completed the procedure of installation on the second hdd having /boot and mbr on the 3rd one
[10:59] <siberiannerd> which resulted the above
[10:59] <kuribas> How do I set environment variable for X apps?
[11:00] <siberiannerd> d-i never prompted warnings or anything else
[11:00] <kuribas> My variables in .bashrc aren't read.
[11:01] <siberiannerd> cfhowlett, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies
[11:01] <siberiannerd> but without any floppies
[11:01] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, you did note that this method is for UNSUPPORTED version of ubuntu?  That means ... unsupported here as well.
[11:02] <siberiannerd> somewhat no
[11:03] <ObrienDave> siberiannerd... and it is also written for an 8 year old system?
[11:03] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, yeah that big pink banner across the top of the page.
[11:03] <siberiannerd> ObrienDave, it has even 8 years old bugs in it so i thought it would be fine
[11:03] <geirha> kuribas: Set environment variables in .profile. They do not belong in .bashrc
[11:04] <ObrienDave> omg *face palm*
[11:04] <kuribas> geirha: Ok, I'll try that.
[11:04] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, you're installing 12.04 using an outdated, end of life methodology?  OOOOOOkay then.
[11:04] <geirha> kuribas: You may also set them in .pam_environment, which is read by the pam_env module when you log in, though note that .pam_environment is not a shell script, so shell syntax won't work in there.
[11:04] <siberiannerd> ObrienDave, so there is not proper way to use hdd as installation media for ubuntu, is that correct?
[11:04] <ObrienDave> siberiannerd... have fun with that. *lurking*
[11:04] <siberiannerd> no, seriously
[11:05] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, back up.  Can your box boot from USB?
[11:05] <siberiannerd> nope
[11:05] <pseudonymous> Err yes it can
[11:05] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, ok.  what are the machine specs. it matters.
[11:05] <siberiannerd> no
[11:06] <siberiannerd> ok, it's mini-itx zotac mb without usb controlled on it
[11:06] <siberiannerd> should i get deeper into details?
[11:06] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, nope.
[11:06] <siberiannerd> r*
[11:06] <ObrienDave> siberiannerd... is there a DVD burner?
[11:06] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, I would suggest you consider using lubuntu or xubuntu though.  Both are optimized for older and lower spec machines.
[11:07] <siberiannerd> no, cd-rom is not integrated in motherboard unfortunately
[11:07] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, from that page I sent you:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManager
[11:07] <siberiannerd> cfhowlett, can i read about supported method of installing xubuntu from hdd media?
[11:07] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, same method as in the tutorial, just different OS.
[11:08] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, actually see the section: Installation without a CD"
[11:09] <siberiannerd> cfhowlett, yeah but the only option in there is unsupported
[11:09] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, it's also possible you could do a network installation.  See server and network installations in that tutorial
[11:09] <siberiannerd> as you pointed me to that pink banner
[11:10] <siberiannerd> pxe is buggy in there
[11:10] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, dern.  I was literally tying PXE for your next optoin.
[11:10] <cfhowlett> *option*
[11:10] <siberiannerd> i wouldn't come if it was an option
[11:11] <siberiannerd> and if i had sata dvd-rom
[11:11] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[11:11] <Wiz_KeeD> ObrienDave, I have the 64 bit version
[11:12] <Wiz_KeeD> What do you recommend in order to install the proper skype?
[11:12] <Lemino> Hi all! Anyone who can help me get my trackpad working correctly? I'm on a Vostro 3360.
[11:13] <kizzx2> hey guys
[11:13] <kizzx2> i'm trying to install Datastax Cassandra on LTS 1204
[11:13] <Wiz_KeeD> Anyone know how to install skype for ubuntu 64 bit?
[11:13] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... where did you get a 64bit version???
[11:13] <kizzx2> apt-get install dsc12
[11:13] <Wiz_KeeD> of ubuntu ObrienDave ?
[11:13] <kizzx2> but it says The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:13] <kizzx2>  dsc12 : Depends: cassandra (= 1.2.9) but 2.0.0 is to be installed
[11:13] <Wiz_KeeD> I didn't get a skype version for 64
[11:13] <ikonia> !skype | Wiz_KeeD
[11:14] <ObrienDave> no, Skype
[11:14] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, that link suggest you should include 32 bit applications in your repository, something that a lot of people do not recommend
[11:14] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... I meant 13.04 64bit?
[11:14] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: so what's the problem then ?
[11:14] <Wiz_KeeD> 12.04 ObrienDave
[11:15] <ObrienDave> ok use the link
[11:15] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, because from what I know installing 32-bit applications on 64 is not that good...also if i'm going to install the 32 bit one, why not use the one from skype.com?
[11:15] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... this will get you the latest 32bit file. http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-64
[11:15] <siberiannerd> but uhm i don't have any bootable options but hdd unfortunately
[11:15] <Wiz_KeeD> ObrienDave, that's what the link suggests
[11:15] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: it is the one from skype.com
[11:15] <Wiz_KeeD> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[11:15] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: where is the native 64bit skype client ?
[11:15] <Lemino> I'll come back at another time!
[11:15] <Wiz_KeeD> I have no idea ikonia
[11:15] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: right, it doesn't exist
[11:16] <ObrienDave> ikonia... miscommunication on the 64bit Skype
[11:16] <ikonia> ObrienDave: do share
[11:16] <ObrienDave> there isn't one, like you said ;))
[11:17] <Wiz_KeeD> So it would be safe to add the 32 bit architecture then?
[11:17] <ikonia> ObrienDave: so how is that  miscommunication ?
[11:17] <Wiz_KeeD> You guys did that?
[11:17] <siberiannerd> ok, ubuntu can't be installed from hdd i got it
[11:17] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I don't like adding the 32bit arch to the repos, no
[11:17] <ObrienDave> oh lordy, nevermind
[11:17] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: however, that is the current documented process
[11:18] <Wiz_KeeD> hmmm
[11:19] <Wiz_KeeD> how the hell can I get skype on my computer without adding the 32bit arch to the repos and still be able to upgrade it and all that...
[11:19] <siberiannerd> should i write a feature request so the installation from hdd media could get some attention and support?
[11:19] <ikonia> siberiannerd: nah
[11:19] <siberiannerd> ikonia, why not?
[11:19] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... install ia32libs then Skype
[11:19] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: why don't you want to add 32bit multiarch capability?
[11:19] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: i shouldn't stop you upgrading
[11:20] <Wiz_KeeD> jrib, because when searching for other software I wouldn't want to install 32bit designed packages that might not be optimized for 64
[11:20] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: that wouldn't happen unless you ask for it explicitly
[11:20] <Wiz_KeeD> ObrienDave, then all 32bit applications will be available for download, something I wouldn't neccesairly want
[11:20] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: it doesn't work like that
[11:21] <Wiz_KeeD> I'm sorry, I'm new to this, it may very well be possible, I just read about it
[11:21] <Wiz_KeeD> Ready to be educated though :D
[11:21] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... no, that just adds 32bit support to 12.04
[11:22] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia still doesn't do it for a reason :)
[11:23] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:24] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... ia32libs just adds 32bit support to 12.04. necessary for some programs like most 3rd party SecondLife clients
[11:27] <Wiz_KeeD> ObrienDave, someone on the ubuntu forum says for example "you don't want to install a packages that was not compiled for your platform. Either get a 64bit version or compile it yourself. "
[11:27] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: i've only seen skype provide 32bit packages.  Their 64bit package just depends on the 32bit real version.  Though I haven't check in the last few months
[11:28] <iceroot> Wiz_KeeD: use the 32bit version, there is no single need for skype in 64bit
[11:28] <iceroot> Wiz_KeeD: skype just needs to install some multiarch libs
[11:28] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... thats a PITA, just add ia32libs then install Skype. no biggie. it works
[11:29] <jrib> that shouldn't even be needed, just install skype after enabling multiarch
[11:29] <Wiz_KeeD> If more people with professional opinions suggest the same thing I think it's time to do it
[11:30] <Wiz_KeeD> ok sir!
[11:30] <iceroot> Wiz_KeeD: and to correct the part with "you dont want to install.." the real thing is "you dont want to install NSA/MS stuff on your free software product and you dont want to use such evil stuff anymore" that would be the correct part and not the architecutre thing :)
[11:31] <Wiz_KeeD> didn't get that fully tbh :-s
[11:31] <ObrienDave> iceroot... LOL
[11:31] <Wiz_KeeD> dpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture
[11:31] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... open a terminal. sudo apt-get install ia32libs
[11:32] <Wiz_KeeD> Okay ObrienDave
[11:35] <Wiz_KeeD> And a real important question I have not been answered yet.If I somehow mess up by installing some wierd packages or from wrong repositories or smth like that and end up with conflicts and all that
[11:35] <Wiz_KeeD> What is a good backup system that can take a snapshot and you just revert to ti?
[11:35] <Wiz_KeeD> Lik the windows recovery thing
[11:35] <ObrienDave> now THAT is a good question
[11:36] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you shouldn't be using those "weird" packages as you where told yesterday
[11:36] <ObrienDave> ikonia... lol
[11:36] <Wiz_KeeD> Or any other mistake that might break my system
[11:36] <Wiz_KeeD> Could be multilple causes
[11:36] <Guest87684> is there a "Computer" menu in 1304?
[11:36] <Wiz_KeeD> I compile wrongly, I install the wrong library and all that
[11:36] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD:if you don't use bad repos - you won't break your system
[11:36] <Wiz_KeeD> I cannot be expected to work flawlessly
[11:36] <iceroot> Wiz_KeeD: snapshot of the complete system?
[11:36] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you don't need to compile software that can cause a conflict with system libraries
[11:37] <Wiz_KeeD> iceroot, yes
[11:37] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... that's why we are trying to help you. sheesh
[11:37] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, I had MANY MANY conflicts and crashes using JUST the standard repository
[11:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no you didn't
[11:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: the standard repos do not conflict
[11:37] <Wiz_KeeD> ObrienDave, in the idea that I might mess up and need to revert
[11:38] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: the sooner you stop avoiding the advice of keep to the supported ubuntu repos, and don't try to compile software that conflicts with ubuntu software versions - you'll have no fatal problems
[11:38] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: other types of problems are normally straight forward to fix
[11:38] <Wiz_KeeD> That means I have to know when I install something else if it conflicts or not with ubuntu
[11:38] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... i do understand your concerns. there are enough good people here that if someone gives you the wrong info, they will be pummeled with a very large trout LMAO
[11:39] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no, as if it's in the repo - it doesn't conflict.
[11:40] <Wiz_KeeD> hahahha, lol ObrienDave
[11:40] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, I understand
[11:40] <Wiz_KeeD> I'll drop the backup idea then
[11:40] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: nothing wrong with backups
[11:41] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: but a full system backup for every change, you'll just waste time/disk space
[11:41] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... backups are your friend, for sure
[11:41] <Wiz_KeeD> File backups are not important to me, I just code in python and save the code with dvcs like git or bzr
[11:41] <Wiz_KeeD> the rest is irrelevant
[11:42] <Guest87684> anyone can help me navigate to the "Computer" menu?
[11:42] <Daisyab__> i have 2 ubuntu accounts and i cant access one of them ever since i typed in a wrong path for installing xampp.  Can anyone help me recover my other account
[11:42] <ikonia> Daisyab__: xammp has nothing to do with your login
[11:42] <ObrienDave> Guest87684... what "computer" menu? on the desktop?
[11:43] <universal> how to find out if the currrent wireless driver on my system is the lastest one and if not then where to find latest or latest stable one ? hardware is - hp pavilion g6 series laptop with broadcom BCM4313 mini wifi card. current wireless driver is "wl" the default one available in ubuntu 13.04 installed from soft. sources > additional drivers tab. wireless driver package is "bcmwl-kernel-source" Veriosn - 6.20.155.1+bdcom-0ubuntu6
[11:43] <ikonia> universal: use the one ubuntu provides
[11:43] <Daisyab__> ikonia: i know that but after i typed in the wrong path for installing xampp that account doesn't open anymore
[11:43] <ikonia> Daisyab__: please define "doesn't open"
[11:43] <Daisyab__> i'm thinking that the wrong path was used and it had no where to go
[11:43] <universal> ikonia: ok...but the current driver 'wl' has some bugs
[11:44] <universal> ikonia: its freezes system now or then
[11:44] <Daisyab__> ikonia: after logging in with a password, my machine goes blank for a sec, then comes right back to the log in page
[11:45] <ikonia> Daisyab__: login as the other user then "su - $other_username"
[11:45] <ikonia> Daisyab__: see if that allows you to switch user withoout any errors/warnings
[11:46] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... did you d/l ia32libs yet?
[11:46] <Wiz_KeeD> It does not install ObrienDave because I started a backup with backintime program
[11:46] <Wiz_KeeD> now i'm trying to stop and remove it
[11:46] <Daisyab__> it does but i cant acces any of the files
[11:46] <Wiz_KeeD> But it moves very sluggish, adn even though I closed it in ps -aux | grep backintime
[11:46] <universal> !update
[11:46] <Wiz_KeeD> I see a lot if instances running
[11:46] <ObrienDave> NO!!! dont stop the backup!
[11:46] <ikonia> Daisyab__: sounds like the permissions are wrong
[11:47] <Wiz_KeeD> and that download of lib is still in 0% in building depdenency tree
[11:47] <Wiz_KeeD> now what? :))
[11:47] <ikonia> Daisyab__: can you do "pwd" when you su - $username
[11:47] <Wiz_KeeD> Ubuntu is complex as hell man
[11:47] <gerep> Hi all. What's the Linux Mint channel? I'm worried about my notebook temperature. It's 79ºC (4 cores) and the fan is spinning loud and fast =/
[11:47] <ikonia> !mint | gerep
[11:47] <gerep> ikonia: that's why I asked what's the channel :) you know it?
[11:48] <Wiz_KeeD> now i'm stuck, only idea that comes to mind is to restart
[11:48] <Daisyab__> ikonia: it gives  me /root
[11:48] <gerep> ikonia: thanks ;)
[11:48] <ikonia> gerep: READ the ubottu gave you
[11:48] <ikonia> Daisyab__: what command did you do "su...." exactly.
[11:48] <gerep> #linuxmint-help
[11:48] <ikonia> gerep: read it PROPERLY
[11:48] <ikonia> gerep: it's not on freenode
[11:48] <Daisyab__> su -$denis
[11:48] <gerep> ikonia: sorry, I'm really stupid today hahaha
[11:48] <ikonia> it's not funny
[11:48] <Wiz_KeeD> any idea ObrienDave ?
[11:48] <gerep> ikonia: thanks a lot, that will help ;)
[11:48] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... it's not that difficult. just takes some getting used to is all
[11:48] <Daisyab__> denis is the name of otheruse
[11:48] <Daisyab__> *otheruser
[11:49] <universal> !kernel
[11:49] <ikonia> Daisyab__: what's the exact command you typed please.
[11:49] <Wiz_KeeD> I think it's extremly difficult for these special cases, any retard can learn to apt-get install update and remove and kiill a few procceses in minutes
[11:49] <Wiz_KeeD> But for this complex tasks almost nobody has the answer
[11:49] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: please don't call people retards
[11:49] <Daisyab__> ikonia: it was su -$denis
[11:49] <ikonia> Daisyab__: ok, please do "exit" so you are back to your normal user, than do "su - denis"
[11:50] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm not calling anyone retard, I was speaking generally to make the idea of "easy" more vivid :)
[11:50] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: so don't do it please.
[11:50] <Wiz_KeeD> How can I close all instances of backintime thing now...and uninstall it
[11:50] <Daisyab__> ikonia: where denis takes the place of 'otheruser'
[11:50] <Wiz_KeeD> Or should I restart first...
[11:50] <universal> ikonia: what about updating kernel to a newer version which contains latest wl drivers
[11:50] <ikonia> Daisyab__: is denis the name of the broken user
[11:50] <ObrienDave> don't need to uninstall BackInTime
[11:51] <Wiz_KeeD> Laptop moves right now like it has 200mb of ram
[11:51] <ikonia> universal: use the kernel ubuntu provides
[11:51] <universal> ikonia: yea...how to do it ?
[11:51] <Wiz_KeeD> ObrienDave, need to stop it since it's killing my box and I see it in ps -aux | grep backintime
[11:51] <Wiz_KeeD> even though I've closed everything
[11:51] <Wiz_KeeD> And it's not running...
[11:51] <ikonia> universal: you already are using the kernel ubuntu provides
[11:51] <ikonia> universal: so stick with it
[11:52] <Wiz_KeeD> And what's the point in keeping it there if i'm not going to use it ObrienDave ? :)
[11:52] <Guest87684> ObrienDave, the menu that shows hard drives, and stuff well i guess the windows equivalent is "computer"
[11:52] <Wiz_KeeD> anyway, I will restart now
[11:52] <Wiz_KeeD> Since I don't know anything beter to do
[11:52] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... go ahead and power off the machine
[11:53] <universal> ikonia: no i mean the updated kernel....my system is 13.04 and now 13.10 is expected to be rolled out next month so there should a newer kernel
[11:53] <ikonia> universal: so you upgrade when 13.10 is available
[11:53] <Wiz_KeeD> I can't, it moves too slow
[11:53] <Daisyab__> ikonia: just did that and entered password then i get an error message -su export: '=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games:/home/denis/lampp': not a valid identifier.  denis is the name of the broken account
[11:53] <Wiz_KeeD> :))
[11:53] <Wiz_KeeD> Great os
[11:53] <universal> ikonia: no fixes for now ? :(
[11:54] <ikonia> Daisyab__: ok, sounds like th profile is messed up a bit
[11:54] <ObrienDave> Guest87684... Ubuntu does not use that type of a menu
[11:54] <ikonia> Daisyab__: can you type "id" please.
[11:54] <ikonia> Daisyab__: (as the user denis)
[11:54] <ikonia> Daisyab__: show me the output
[11:54] <nugroho> 11.5015.201081.0001 33.7415.201081.0001
[11:54] <ObrienDave> Guest87684... you need to start with the folder called "file system"
[11:55] <Guest87684> obriendave, in 12.04 i think there use to be that menu by moving ur mouse up to places then computer
[11:55] <Daisyab__> what do you mean as the user denis
[11:55] <Guest87684> obriendave, it shows all the listed drives and stuff
[11:55] <ObrienDave> Guest87684... then MOUNTED drives would be listed under the /mnt folder
[11:55] <ikonia> Daisyab__: su - denis, then id
[11:56] <ObrienDave> Guest87684... that's been removed in 13.04 i think
[11:56] <Guest87684> obriendave, yeah that was my question, can we get that back?
[11:56] <ObrienDave> Guest87684... not sure, I run Xubuntu
[11:57] <Guest87684> obriendave, alright thx for the help
[11:57] <ObrienDave> Guest87684... sorry i could not help you batter
[11:58] <ObrienDave> *better
[11:58] <Guest87684> obriendave, No problem thx for helping anyways
[11:59] <Daisyab__> ikonia: result: uid = 1000(denis) gid = 1000 (denis)  groups = 1000 (denis), 4 (adm), 20 (dialout), 24(cdrom), 46(plugdev), 111(lpadmin), 119(admin), 122(sambashare), 127 (guest)
[11:59] <ikonia> Daisyab__: ok, that's good.
[11:59] <ikonia> Daisyab__: can you do "pwd" too and show me the output
[12:00] <Daisyab__> what does all of that mean?
[12:00] <ikonia> Daisyab__: it's giving me information to try to help you
[12:01] <Daisyab__> ikonia: it gives me /home/denis
[12:01] <ikonia> Daisyab__: great, so that's a good "standard" setup
[12:01] <ikonia> Daisyab__: just need to fix your profile and hopefully check your permissions
[12:01] <ikonia> Daisyab__: can you do "ls -la"
[12:01] <ikonia> Daisyab__: does that work or complain about permissions
[12:02] <nugroho> WHA420355
[12:02] <nugroho> SOC155694
[12:02] <FloodBot1> nugroho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:02] <nugroho> YMH297433
[12:02] <ikonia> nugroho: please stop that
[12:02] <Daisyab__> ikonia: it gives me a long list of files on the home folders on denis
[12:03] <Daisyab__> *folder
[12:03] <ObrienDave> somebody boot nugroho
[12:03] <ikonia> Daisyab__: ok, so that's good
[12:03] <ikonia> Daisyab__: so looks like your permissions are at least "ok"
[12:03] <easi> hello everyone
[12:03] <somsip> ikonia: he's being doing it on and off for the last 4 or 5 hours, FWIW
[12:03] <philinux> ikonia: wouldn't this be better for daisy ls -la | pastebinit
[12:04] <Daisyab__> i can see the file where i typed that wrong path, how can i open it
[12:04] <ikonia> philinux: not too fussed with the detail at this point, as long as he can read his home directory, that's enough for me
[12:04] <ikonia> Daisyab__: what file do you think it is ?
[12:04] <philinux> ikonia: kk
[12:04] <Daisyab__> .profile
[12:04] <ikonia> Daisyab__: perfect,
[12:04] <ikonia> Daisyab__: looks like you've found it
[12:05] <ikonia> Daisyab__: so any text editor can open that
[12:05] <Daisyab__> so how can i open it from the terminal
[12:06] <[Gentoo]> Daisyab__: use a terminal editor like nano or vim
[12:06] <[Gentoo]> nano .profile
[12:06] <RobinJ> is there anything special i need to do before attempting to install ubuntu 13.04 in a dual boot with windows 8?
[12:06] <[Gentoo]> Daisyab__: for nano press control + x then enter to save
[12:06] <[Gentoo]> RobinJ: aftert windows 8 is installed?
[12:06] <RobinJ> yes
[12:06] <RobinJ> it came preinstalled
[12:06] <ObrienDave> RobinJ... YES. read up on installing under UEFI
[12:07] <RobinJ> well damn
[12:07] <[Gentoo]> i think grub should pick the install up but im not 100% sure about windows 8
[12:07] <easi> who know red hat
[12:07] <ObrienDave> hang on a sec
[12:07] <bazhang> #rhel easi
[12:07] <siberiannerd> what do i do if insmod normal fails with "not found" ?
[12:07] <[Gentoo]> siberiannerd: rebuild the modules
[12:08] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: no !!!
[12:08] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: "not found" = not there, you can't rebuild what's not there
[12:08] <easi> rpm file association failure is how
[12:08] <bazhang> !ot | easi
[12:08] <easi> ?
[12:08] <ObrienDave> RobinJ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[12:08] <bazhang> easi, go ask in a redhat centos channel
[12:08] <bazhang> easi, #centos
[12:09] <easi> how i join it
[12:09] <bazhang> easi /join #centos
[12:09] <easi> thanks
[12:09] <RobinJ> oh great so i should disable my ssd? -.-
[12:10] <marco__> hallo
[12:11] <ObrienDave> RobinJ... i don't think it will actually disable your SSD, no
[12:11] <RobinJ> it says i need to disable intel srt
[12:12] <RobinJ> which is teh technology used for a caching ssd
[12:13] <ObrienDave> RobinJ... that's just the cache, not the drive.
[12:13] <RobinJ> ....
[12:13] <RobinJ> it's a caching ssd. it does nothing but acting as a cache.
[12:14] <siberiannerd> what do i do if insmod normal fails with "not found" ?
[12:15] <ObrienDave> RobinJ... SRT is an intermediary between the system and the drive, sort of like a RAM buffer.
[12:16] <dwatkins> siberiannerd: see above, please
[12:16] <dwatkins> oh, sorry, this was already discussed
[12:16] <siberiannerd> grub "points to the wrong place" after installation, `insmod normal` reports "not found" which steps can i perform to get closer to solution?
[12:16] <dwatkins> I get the impression there's much more to this.
[12:17] <siberiannerd> whatever, the brightly sharp problem description as is delivered, what else can i tell?
[12:18] <yicak> apt-get don't work
[12:19] <ikonia> why someone would look at insmod for kernel modules because grub is looking at the wrong place is beyond me
[12:20]  * cfhowlett ...manfually resisting the urge to contribute an extraneous commentary
[12:20] <cfhowlett> *manfully*
[12:20] <Ipzael> hi
[12:20] <siberiannerd> do this i'm open for critics due to the fact i'm really that noob
[12:20] <cfhowlett> Ipzael, greetings
[12:22] <Daisyab__> ikonia:, Gentoo: you guys are life savers. Thank you so much
[12:22] <yicak> i'm a noob to ubuntu
[12:22] <ObrienDave> YAY! another happy customer LOL
[12:22] <ikonia> Daisyab__: glad you are working
[12:22] <monkeyjuice> yicak:  what are you trying to do
[12:23] <yicak> somebody say LOL
[12:23] <ObrienDave> LOL
[12:23] <yicak> what's LOL
[12:23] <ObrienDave> Laugh Out Loud
[12:23] <OddPizza_> my ssh client works on my mobile data network, but not on my internet. what is potentially wrong? I'm getting "connection refused"
[12:25] <yicak> ObrienDave, LOL is a online game
[12:25] <dwatkins> OddPizza_: possibly simply that your mobile provider blocks ssh
[12:25] <bucketm0use> Does anyone know if it's possible to dual-boot + secure boot with UEFI Windows 8 / Ubuntu (12.04)
[12:26] <OddPizza_> dwatkins: it works on my mobile data. not on my network however. ie my school internet
[12:26] <dwatkins> OddPizza_: your school blocks ssh, which is unsurprising
[12:26] <OddPizza_> oh
[12:26] <ObrienDave> yicak... not in an IRC chat room it isn't
[12:27] <OddPizza_> probably I guess. dwatkins :/ mmk. thanks
[12:27] <daftykins> ObrienDave: yeah, yeah it is. things can have multiple meanings here too! :)
[12:27] <[Gentoo]> OddPizza_: could try enabling ssh on another port
[12:27] <ObrienDave> OMG, shows how old i'm getting to be LMAO
[12:27] <bucketm0use> OddPizza_, you may be able to talk to a Dean if you need SSH access. Get a higher-up to sign off on a request like that and submit it to a network administrator.
[12:28] <dwatkins> [Gentoo]: that may still violate the terms of use of the network
[12:36] <aps> Hi every body
[12:36] <cfhowlett> aps, greetings
[12:37] <aps> first time  I am in this chat
[12:37] <bucketm0use> Is it possible to Dual Boot and Secure Boot (UEFI) Ubuntu 12.04 and Windows 8?
[12:39] <BluesKaj> !eufi | bucketm0use
[12:40] <aps> thanks  cfhowlett
[12:40] <vmachine1> i want to search for two exact word using grep.. but im having some issues... i want to search for the word deny and 5.5.5.5  .. grep 'deny' '5.5.5.' logs
[12:40] <BluesKaj> oops
[12:40] <bucketm0use> !uefi | bucketm0use
[12:40] <bucketm0use> BluesKaj, ubottu, much obliged
[12:40] <vmachine1> whats the syntax to search for those two exact terms
[12:40] <BluesKaj> bucketm0use, hope it helps
[12:50] <siberiannerd> there is no way to fix the bootloader if it is clear from-under grub rescue that there is no normal.mod under /boot/grub on boot device right?
[13:01] <WACOMalt> Hi folks. I have a bit of an onusual question. As happens often on IT fields, you have to deal with windows.  I am needing to download a windows ISO from my technet subscription, but I have to do so from Ubuntu, and from terminal only
[13:02] <WACOMalt> I have tried combos of curl, wget, and axel
[13:02] <cfhowlett> WACOMalt, meaning IE only, right?
[13:02] <WACOMalt> nothing can resolve the URL.
[13:02] <WACOMalt> No
[13:02] <WACOMalt> I could download form firefox or chrome in ubuntu fine
[13:02] <WACOMalt> but they use a serverside dll to redirect the download.
[13:02] <WACOMalt> and I have to log in with my account.
[13:03] <daftykins> WACOMalt: how is it that you don't have another computer to hand?
[13:03] <WACOMalt> the firect download link is something like http://technet.microsoft.com/subscriptions/json/GetDownloadRequest?brand=TechNet&locale=en-US&fileId=46948&activexDisabled=true&akamaiDL=false
[13:03] <WACOMalt> well, realistically I could download this here, then upload to the server
[13:03] <Wiz_KeeD> well now
[13:03] <WACOMalt> but I'm wanting to learn how if possible, to do this via the server directly
[13:03] <Pici> WACOMalt: have you tried using w3m to browse the site instead of trying to figure out what the url is?
[13:03] <Wiz_KeeD> I had to reinstall my ubuntu becuase of that backup program that Froze my computer
[13:03] <Wiz_KeeD> great!
[13:03] <WACOMalt> so I dont have to transfer it twice
[13:03] <Wiz_KeeD> It just gets better and better
[13:04] <WACOMalt> w3m, I hadnt. I'll try that
[13:04] <WACOMalt> but arent scripts generally unsupported in that
[13:04] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you don't re-install if a program hangs
[13:04] <WACOMalt> neither curl or wget support redirects in this way?
[13:05] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, every time i booted it froze everything, to do sudo reboot it took about 4 minutes
[13:05] <Pici> WACOMalt: there are likely other things going on here, like checking for cookies.
[13:05] <WACOMalt> w3m reports "javascript required to login"
[13:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: so ? you just remove it / disable it
[13:05] <Wiz_KeeD> I can't
[13:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: why ?
[13:05] <Wiz_KeeD> I wanted to do apt-get remove backintime --purge
[13:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ....and
[13:05] <Wiz_KeeD> didn't get the chance everything froze up before I could do it
[13:05] <WACOMalt> the thing is. I was able to get the download manager "flashget" on a windows machine to download this file locally
[13:05] <WACOMalt> with no cookies
[13:06] <WACOMalt> just passed the url and the login info
[13:06] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: so you ask for help - it's easy to fix that, rather than re-installing and wise cracking "great" because you did something people kept advising you not to do
[13:06] <WACOMalt> so it SHOULD be possible as long as the redirect gets supported
[13:06] <Wiz_KeeD> I could not ask for help I could barely type in the terminal not to mention running xchat :)))
[13:06] <Pici> WACOMalt: I don't know then, sorry.
[13:06] <Pici> 5/70
[13:07] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: then following adivice and not doing the opposite of what advised seems a better way forwad
[13:07] <Wiz_KeeD> Now for example, I wanted to install broadcom wireless driver from producer (on the top right bar) and it gave an error, now i want to close that application but no matter if i do alt tab or click on it nothing happens
[13:07] <Wiz_KeeD> not even quitting it from the launcher on the left
[13:07] <Wiz_KeeD> right
[13:08] <WACOMalt> Dang. I'm suprised that flashget can download from this URL and nothing on ubuntu can. Considering flashget is likely built on most of the open source libraries that linux uses like curl and wget
[13:09] <Wiz_KeeD> sorry i logged off an in
[13:10] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i get the link for isntalling skype from the bot here?
[13:10] <iceroot> !skype | Wiz_KeeD
[13:10] <WACOMalt> !skype
[13:10] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you
[13:10] <WACOMalt> hmm guess not. didnt work for me
[13:10] <Pici> WACOMalt: thats because the bot just said it a second ago.
[13:10] <WACOMalt> ah
[13:11] <iceroot> WACOMalt: the bot is only answering once in a minute for the same search term to not flood the channel, everything was correct
[13:11] <WACOMalt> makes sense
[13:11] <bucketm0use> WACOMalt, did you try wget -L ?
[13:11] <WACOMalt> bucketm0use, yup
[13:11] <bucketm0use> bummer
[13:11] <Wiz_KeeD> and I had to install someting before sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 for it to work
[13:12] <WACOMalt> tell me about it. my upload speed here is painful. so now instead of a 15 minute download. it will be a 1 hour download, and a 8 hour upload. :|
[13:12] <siberiannerd> there is no way to fix the bootloader if it is clear from-under grub rescue that there is no normal.mod under /boot/grub on boot device right?
[13:12] <Wiz_KeeD> !add-architecture i386
[13:13] <Wiz_KeeD> !dpkg --add-architecture i386
[13:13] <DeonP> firewall is set to accept all atm, with nat from lan to internet working fine.no other policies defined.if i try to access webserver from internet via tunnel, tcpdump shows browser requests on tunnel ppp port but apache not responding or not receiving the packets
[13:14] <DeonP> sorry missed first line, got l2tp client up and running+ above msg
[13:14] <bucketm0use> Q: If I dual-boot Windows 8 + Ubuntu 12.04 - would it be worth it to install them both on 1TB HDDs and use my 256GB SSD as cache ?
[13:15] <Tuesday> how do i start gcaltool from terminal
[13:15] <bucketm0use> Tuesday, gcalctool from term?
[13:15] <siberiannerd> bucketm0use, there is some bcache http://bcache.evilpiepirate.org/
[13:15] <cfhowlett> bucketm0use, type gcalctool
[13:16] <Tuesday> that didn't work
[13:16] <bucketm0use> notice you were missing a 'c'
[13:16] <pgimeno> I'm having a problem, Apache filled the hard disk log apparently because of a corrupted gnutls cache, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=576676 - is it safe to remove /var/cache/apache2/gnutls_cache ?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> Tuesday, is it installed?
[13:16] <Wiz_KeeD> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 does not work it says it is not found
[13:16] <bucketm0use> ty cfhowlett I'll look into this
[13:16] <Tuesday> oh wait it worked i forgot the c lol
[13:16] <cfhowlett> d'oh!
[13:18] <Chathurga> I'm having a problem with manually installing X on a stripped down ubuntu
[13:18] <Chathurga> none of the window or file managers are starting automatically
[13:18] <cfhowlett> Chathurga, how did you strip down?
[13:18] <Chathurga> so when I do startx gnome starts but metacity/gnome-panel doesnt, any ideas?
[13:18] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: why do you want it to start automatically?
[13:18] <Chathurga> http://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/
[13:19] <cfhowlett> Chathurga, so an unofficial derivative?  Why not install Ubuntu mini and build up the OS you want.
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !mini|Chathurga,
[13:19] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: do what cfhowlett said - this is what i do too
[13:20] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: the main advantag is, that you use "officical" ubuntu and have better support here
[13:20] <Chathurga> The only problem is this is for like an educational class where we boot into the terminal at first and have them startx
[13:20] <Chathurga> it'll be mass printed onto usbs
[13:20] <cfhowlett> Chathurga, so?  mini can do that ...
[13:21] <Chathurga> Okay I'll have a look at that
[13:21] <zykotick9> Chathurga: was is in your .xinitrc file?
[13:21] <Chathurga> I've tried pretty much every combo, one sec
[13:22] <Wiz_KeeD> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 return dpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture
[13:22] <BooeyOH> how do you use the package selector that is available at install after you install (on 12.04 if that makes a difference)
[13:23] <cfhowlett> BooeyOH, you mean the software center?
[13:23] <zykotick9> BooeyOH: "tasksel" perhaps?
[13:23] <BooeyOH> not sure, this is the server edition
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|BooeyOH
[13:23] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[13:23] <BooeyOH> sorry
[13:24] <cfhowlett> BooeyOH, no apologies needed.
[13:25] <Wiz_KeeD> !flash-player
[13:25] <Wiz_KeeD> !flash player
[13:25] <Wiz_KeeD> !flash
[13:26] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: if you build from minimal - first thing you need to get is gdm or an other desktop/login manager - it is very important for permission and it took me some time to find that out ;)
[13:26] <bucketm0use> Wiz_KeeD, what are you trying to do
[13:26] <Pici> !fishing | Wiz_KeeD
[13:27] <Chathurga> Mine boots into gnome but I must start metacity manually, it's driven me tot the limit at this stage
[13:27] <Wiz_KeeD> bucketm0use, install skype properly on ubuntu 12.04 64
[13:27] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: well, i am sure there is a file for gnome, where you enter the stuff you want to autostart
[13:28] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: what exactly are your requirements? what do you want to do (big picture)?
[13:28] <bucketm0use> Wiz_KeeD, sudo apt-get install skype ?
[13:28] <Wiz_KeeD> wish it was that simple
[13:28] <Wiz_KeeD> it's not included
[13:28] <Wiz_KeeD> not for 64
[13:29] <Chathurga> Everything else is sorted, it's actually just getting gnome-panel, metacity and nautalis to start with startx but for some reason their not
[13:29] <CatKiller> www.skype.com/download?
[13:29] <Chathurga> I'm not sure how that's controlled in a working setup
[13:29] <Subzero> download .deb package and run sudo -dpkg -i nameofpackage
[13:29] <Wiz_KeeD> !skype
[13:29] <Wiz_KeeD> that link says no
[13:29] <CatKiller> says no?
[13:29] <Wiz_KeeD> It is highly recommended to use the package provided in the Canonical partner repository, not the one distributed from the skype website, as the skype website currently points users to the wrong package for 64-bit systems of Ubuntu 11.10 and above.
[13:29] <bucketm0use> Wiz_KeeD, http://rumytaulu.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/cant-install-ia32-libs-and-ia32-libs-multiarch-how-to-fix-it/
[13:29] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: so, what happens when you try to install it?
[13:30] <Wiz_KeeD> I never TRY to do anything since last time It crashed using experiements, and everyone is bitching constantly to NEVER stray away from the standard repository
[13:30] <Wiz_KeeD> my options are limited
[13:30] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: what do you use for login?
[13:30] <bucketm0use> Wiz_KeeD, follow that link. Afterwards do 'sudo apt-get install skype'
[13:30] <Wiz_KeeD> But this is by far not an exact science, everyone has a method
[13:30] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: What happens when you do 'sudo apt-get install skype'
[13:31] <Chathurga> auto logs in as some "ubuntu" username
[13:31] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: maybe use lightdm or gdm for graphical login?
[13:31] <Wiz_KeeD> bucketm0use, sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 when i do that it does not recognise the command
[13:31] <Wiz_KeeD> Pici, it's not in the repositories
[13:31] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: that is not the aswer to my question: what do you use for login?
[13:31] <Wiz_KeeD> i did apt-cache search skype and there's no such thing for 64 bit
[13:31] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, never say never.  The only way I could get the non-PRC backdoor version of skype here in Beijing was to have someone dropbox the .deb.  sudo dpkg -i skype has been running great ever since.
[13:31] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: do you get grapical interface before or after the users gets auto-logged in
[13:31] <Chathurga> oh gdm
[13:31] <bucketm0use> Wiz_KeeD, the link I sent you does not ask you to do that though?
[13:31] <Wiz_KeeD> Just scared
[13:32] <Chathurga> after
[13:32] <Wiz_KeeD> bucketm0use, sorry?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, 4.2.0.11 for ubuntu 12.04 is in AMD64 packages ...
[13:32] <bucketm0use> If you're not confident then I wouldn't recommend trying it
[13:32] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: is it an option for you to install gdm or any other GUI Login manager?
[13:32] <Wiz_KeeD> idk what you just said cfhowlett :))
[13:33] <cfhowlett> Desktop$ apt-cache policy skype
[13:33] <cfhowlett> skype:
[13:33] <cfhowlett>   Installed: 4.2.0.11-0ubuntu0.12.04.2
[13:33] <cfhowlett>   Candidate: 4.2.0.11-0ubuntu0.12.04.2
[13:33] <cfhowlett>   Version table:
[13:33] <FloodBot1> cfhowlett: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:33] <cfhowlett>  *** 4.2.0.11-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 0
[13:33] <Chathurga> Not with the way things are structured in the course no
[13:33] <Wiz_KeeD> so what am I supposed to understand/do now?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, get that package and install.  don't understand why you're reporting that it doesn't exist.
[13:34] <Wiz_KeeD> So I asked one question got 3 different answers, someone says i should download form the site the 32 bit one, one says I should use those repositories, another says I should get a deb and do it myslef :))
[13:34] <bucketm0use> So you have 3 solutions to 1 problem?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, open source = choice.  :)
[13:35]  * cfhowlett thinks it's better than having 99 problems ...
[13:35] <bucketm0use> Think of it as a blessing in disguise!
[13:35] <Wiz_KeeD> I will avoid of thinking like that since they cannot have the same consequences
[13:36] <Wiz_KeeD> especially when the official documentation from here says: It is highly recommended to use the package provided in the Canonical partner repository, not the one distributed from the skype website, as the skype website currently points users to the wrong package for 64-bit systems of Ubuntu 11.10 and above.
[13:36] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: how are things going on?
[13:36] <Wiz_KeeD> Had too much trouble from advice thrown just like that, I have no idea what i'm doing since i'm new here but it's clear that most of the people offering advice are not experts and do not know the full extent of the consequences
[13:37] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: and yet we are the same people that write this documentation that you're reading...
[13:37] <Shogoot> i people. I go tthis if ($this->dateTo) return false; is that the same as say if (isset($this->dateTo)) return false; or how does that evaluate? dateTo is a timestamp object.
[13:38] <cfhowlett> !details|Shogoot, ??? w
[13:38] <Wiz_KeeD> Then i have no idea what to do
[13:38] <Linux> Hey i was just woundering.... does Linux Own Wine program?
[13:38] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: What does the contents of /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch say?
[13:38] <Benkinooby> Shogoot: also maybe #bash or ##bash is a better place to ask?
[13:38] <Wiz_KeeD> I will install it from the site and when I come back and say Skype crashes and reply how I installed it
[13:38] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, 3 possible solutions, try #1, #2, #3 ...
[13:38] <Wiz_KeeD> I will be made an idiot or some sort :)
[13:38] <Chathurga> If you're asking how tihngs happen, we boot into terminal then get people to manually startx, gnome loads up but no gnome-panel, naut, metacity
[13:38] <geirha> Linux: No, wine has no relation to linux
[13:39] <Chathurga> after startx when I opena  terminal I can launch metacity no problem
[13:39] <Linux> ok thx
[13:39] <zhangxun> ol
[13:39] <Chathurga> I've tried placing metacity, nautilis and gnome-panel in ~/.xinitrc but nothing changes
[13:39] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: I'm trying to help you without you trying random things because you don't seem to be comfortable with that. What does the contents of /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch say?
[13:39] <zhangxun> how many are you?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> zhangxun, ???
[13:40] <Wiz_KeeD> Pici, should I vim that?
[13:40] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: you can just cat it
[13:40] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: install gdm
[13:40] <gabrielcz> Hello all!
[13:40] <Wiz_KeeD> Pici, foreign-architecture i386
[13:40] <cfhowlett> gabrielcz, greetings
[13:40] <gabrielcz> I can not get samba with WRITE permission!
[13:40] <zykotick9> Chathurga: what is in your .xinitrc right now?  can you put it on paste.ubuntu.com?
[13:40] <gabrielcz> anyone can try to help me please?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> !ask|gabrielcz,
[13:41] <gabrielcz> I have my co workers ...
[13:41] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: Then you already have multiarch enabled, you can skip the "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" step and go on to the next one.
[13:41] <gabrielcz> I can not get write permission on a samba share
[13:41] <gabrielcz> :D
[13:41] <Wiz_KeeD> Strange as it does not work Pici though
[13:42] <gabrielcz> I don´t get it.! I just did my question :D
[13:42] <zykotick9> Chathurga: and is this gnome2 or gnome3?  gnome2 uses metacity, gnome3 uses mutter (i believe)
[13:42] <cfhowlett> !details|gabrielcz,
[13:42] <gabrielcz> Im doing that cfhowlett
[13:42] <Wiz_KeeD> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[13:42] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: yes, that
[13:42] <Wiz_KeeD> is that to be trusted for all applications?
[13:42] <gabrielcz> I have problem with samba server give write users
[13:43] <gabrielcz> what else? :)
[13:43] <Wiz_KeeD> strange as searching with google for that command just skype shows up
[13:44] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: That is canonical's partner repository. Nothing is going to be installed from there unless you install it.
[13:44] <gabrielcz> Can anyone help me give users white access to a samba server?
[13:44] <Wiz_KeeD> Who's Canonical and when do I know if it's using that repository when I do another apt-get install?
[13:45] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: Canonical is the company that funds development of Ubuntu.
[13:45] <cfhowlett> !canonical
[13:45] <Wiz_KeeD> And it's not included in the standard repositories because...
[13:46] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: because there are mostly commercial software packages on there that don't go through the normal packaging process.
[13:46] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, because it's PARTNER software not canonical software.
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> yet they are reliable
[13:47] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, partners are vetted, yes.
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> I'm veery slowly starting to understand but it seems I should devote a lot more time and interest in this process
[13:47] <Pici> !partner | Wiz_KeeD
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> okay, installing skype this way
[13:47] <neq8376> skype is non-free, proprietary, closed source software
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> to update a certain package i should do apt-get install package right?
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> in order to not update all of them
[13:47] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, correct
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> closed source software, got it neq8376
[13:48] <Wiz_KeeD> Just like the wireless drivers that did not work? :(
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, well, actually, sudo apt-get install software
[13:48] <Chathurga> This is the commands I run when the ISO is being created: http://pastebin.com/FPwLJwWH
[13:48] <neq8376> Wiz_KeeD: i only buy hardware that runs with open source drivers
[13:48] <Wiz_KeeD> A bit too late for that neq8376 :)
[13:48] <Wiz_KeeD> !dropbox
[13:49] <Wiz_KeeD> ubottu knows nothing about dropbox, eeek
[13:49] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: Please /msg ubottu instead of randomly trying commands.  The rest of us know these commands exist before trying them here.
[13:49] <WACOMalt> Fow anyone wondering, I figured out how to download from technet via command line.   I ad to include login info directly in the URL. and replace the @ sign in my email with + and special characters in the password with their % codes
[13:49] <Wiz_KeeD> okay Pici, sorry
[13:49] <WACOMalt> pain in the butt but it worked
[13:50] <cfhowlett> WACOMalt, might be worth posting a tutorial in the forums.  glad you fingered it out.
[13:51] <Wiz_KeeD> so no documented information about dropbox
[13:51] <Wiz_KeeD> I see there's a nautilius and dropbox integration, but that doesn't mean it installs dropbox right?
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, for this one, you go the dropbox site.
[13:52] <Wiz_KeeD> I see it has a 64 bit deb file
[13:52] <Wiz_KeeD> Is this truly trusted? Not like the skype one? :))
[13:52] <cfhowlett> https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx
[13:52] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, it's as trusted as skype is ..
[13:52] <Chathurga> I tried putting gnome-session; exec metacity; exec gnome-panel but this fails. I put . /etc/X11/Xsession; exec metacity; exec gnome-panel in .xinitrc gnome starts but metacyity and gnome-panel do not.
[13:52] <Wiz_KeeD> And how does downloading it and double-clicking it any different fomthe dpkg -i thingy?
[13:53] <zykotick9> Chathurga: "exec gnome-session" should be all you need...
[13:53] <WACOMalt> so curl -L http://username+email.com:PASSWORD%40%40@sub.domain.com/path/and/redirect/arguments/and/stuff&stuff
[13:55] <geirha> WACOMalt: You can use a .netrc file to avoid putting the username and password in the url. See curl's -n option
[13:56] <WACOMalt> oh neat. Thanks for that... that totally woulda saved me so much time
[13:56] <Wiz_KeeD> Could anyone tell me the difference between clicking on the .deb file and doing dpkg -i package.deb in console?
[13:57] <boxmein> Hey, my ubuntu 13.04 is not utilizing my wireless card. It used to so I somehow fucked it up. I have a feeling it was with the installation of some other drivers, so tg3 < b43. Could you point me to what I should do next? Also, here's some data. http://pastebin.com/mfyRgeGF
[13:58] <boxmein> the driver used to be b43 I am almost sure yet it's tg3 now and I am leaning towards blaming the entire thing on that
[13:59] <andreligne> anyone using gala here?
[14:00] <Benkinooby> Wiz_KeeD: hm, i'm no expert but i guess ther is no difference, since .deb packages should be openend by your package manager anyway
[14:01] <Benkinooby> Wiz_KeeD: so it's either "open this deb with the package manager" or "package manager, please open this file" - that's how i see it, but you better check back with the experts her
[14:01] <Benkinooby> *here
[14:04] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[14:05] <Wiz_KeeD> I wish some would answer Benkinooby :))
[14:06] <SuperLag> I'm using Pidgin, and in Unity, the "tray" icon isn't showing up. Is that a known issue?
[14:06] <siberiannerd> the things is sdb is the drive on sata i installed from and currently running live from
[14:06] <Wiz_KeeD> brb
[14:07] <zhangxun> brb
[14:07] <zhangxun> brb
[14:07] <zhangxun> brb
[14:07] <FloodBot1> zhangxun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:07] <zhangxun> brb
[14:07] <Benkinooby> Wiz_KeeD: well, most of not all people here are helping for free - so if no one answers, thei either don't know, or don't have time for you
[14:07] <zhangxun> what
[14:07] <zhangxun> what
[14:07] <zhangxun> what's matter?
[14:08] <zhangxun> hello?
[14:08] <helmut_> hi
[14:08] <zhangxun> hi
[14:08] <caodepalha> hi everyone! is it possible to change desktop enviroments and keep programs opened running?
[14:08] <zhangxun> for example?
[14:09] <zhangxun> I don't understand
[14:09] <Wiz_KeeD> Can anyone tell me how to install the broadcom wireless driver since by default Ubuntu 12.04 64 could not install it by default?
[14:09] <siberiannerd> yeah in theory if x sessions were handled in different way i suspect, so most probably no
[14:10] <caodepalha> i use ubuntustudio to make music but when i'm just doing other stuff i like to use the gnome desktop. if i'm on ubuntustudio and want to change to gnome can i keep the programs open while changing?
[14:10] <SuperLag> caodepalha: I doubt it. The programs you start in one DE are child processes of that DE's session. So when you kill that DE to switch to the other one, all the child processes die.
[14:11] <caodepalha> and is there a way to remember and reopen programs from the last session?
[14:11] <SuperLag> caodepalha: Now... if these are console-based programs, like something you kick off from the command-line, then you can use something like screen or tmux... and start that app from a screen/tmux session, and that would persist across your change of DE
[14:11] <zhangxun> I agree with SuperLag
[14:11] <siberiannerd> caodepalha, why not to have 2 different users for that purpose and keep things opened for another user's session?
[14:12] <SuperLag> caodepalha: ^^ good idea ^^
[14:12] <zhangxun> haha
[14:12] <zhangxun> where are You?
[14:12] <lesshaste> where do I find a printing option saying double sided should be default?
[14:12] <lesshaste> I can't see it in "printing"
[14:12] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[14:13] <boxmein> ugh
[14:13] <Wiz_KeeD> Dropbox says, in order to run dropbox you must install the proprietary daemon...what the hell is that
[14:14] <caodepalha> you mean creating another user and allow programs between both?
[14:14] <siberiannerd> dropbox or daemon? or propietary?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> !dropbox
[14:15] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: Okay, so.... you want Dropbox. What's the problem?
[14:15] <Wiz_KeeD> that's what dropbox says when I launch it for the first time
[14:15] <WACOMalt> Dang I was wrong. even that doesnt work
[14:15] <BluesKaj> dropbox needs nautilus integration on gnome
[14:15] <Wiz_KeeD> NEEDS it?
[14:15] <boxmein> ugh getting wireless driver stuff to work on linux is a pain
[14:15] <boxmein> at least it works on windows
[14:15] <Wiz_KeeD> Then I should have installed it with that, but someone here suggested I should get the deb from the dropbox site :)
[14:15] <BluesKaj> well it's easier
[14:15] <SuperLag> BluesKaj: actually, didn't we have this discussion just the other day? :)
[14:16] <SuperLag> oh wait
[14:16] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: are you on 13.04?
[14:16] <Wiz_KeeD> 12.04 SuperLag
[14:16] <Wiz_KeeD> 64 bi
[14:16] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, yes , but I use kde so it's differnt since dolphin isn't setup to integrate with dropbox
[14:17] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: yes, you should use the nautilus integration
[14:17] <ferrieres> Hi everybody !
[14:17] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: there are ways to do it without, but it's *much* easier to just use what they provide
[14:17] <zhangxun> Keep on question
[14:17] <ferrieres> Slow rendering since 4-5 days now (back to work) ... any help ?
[14:18] <Wiz_KeeD> SuperLag, so now because I've listened someone on this channel to download dropbox from the site and install it, was the wrong move right?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Wiz_KeeD, https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx
[14:19] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: no, not at all...
[14:19] <CiscOH> does anyone know of a good how to guide for creating an IPSec tunnel between two ubuntu servers? this will not bridge local LANs. I have 1 VPS i wish to connect to a local server. This will carry email, NFS traffic
[14:20] <ferrieres> I try to find what has run bad on my comp. Seems that having a ATI/AMD is not a good idea with the 12.04 but perhapps it's the main pb...
[14:20] <Wiz_KeeD> Now it's downloading using the .deb I dowloaded and radn myself, now what?
[14:20] <Wiz_KeeD> what's the BEST move now...
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Wiz_KeeD, that site should help you install it
[14:20] <boxmein> Okay scratch my last statement. I might've got jockey to work.
[14:20] <Wiz_KeeD> And it's stuck on 16% moving really slow
[14:20] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: what's stuck on 16%?
[14:21] <Wiz_KeeD> the dropbox.deb file downloaded form the site which is downloading dropbox itself when running
[14:21] <Wiz_KeeD> 18%
[14:21] <CiscOH> i was hoping for something less bloated than OpenVPN for UDP transport
[14:21] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Wiz_KeeD, being a deb file just click on it when it's finished downloading and it will install itself
[14:21] <siberiannerd> CiscOH, what's wrong with openvpn?
[14:22] <Wiz_KeeD> So it makes NO DIFFERENCE at all if i install it like this, or through the command line, or through the dropbox-nautilius integration that downloads and does it for me...
[14:22] <Wiz_KeeD> Because the installation might work, but last time I ended up with some nasty errors that appeared eevery 10 minutes or so
[14:23] <CiscOH> siberiannerd, it is using too much memory for my taste
[14:23] <siberiannerd> CiscOH, ssh tunnel maybe?
[14:23] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: I don't understand what you think the problem is. Download the .deb, install it. Start Dropbox, it will have you restart nautilus, and then register or log in if you have an account already... it's not complex.
[14:23] <CiscOH> ssh is tcp
[14:24] <CiscOH> i need udp. tcp will add too much overhead
[14:24] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: is the download process itself where the trouble is?
[14:24] <Wiz_KeeD> There are 3 totally different ways of installing the same software, before installing now it showed me some missing libraris and that proprietary daemon, and I don't feel comfortable installing without knowing what's hapening or what's the best method
[14:24] <siberiannerd> CiscOH, well do you need security or nicer response and resource consumption?
[14:24] <Wiz_KeeD> If i come back and say "Dropbox is giving a lot of errors" and i'm asked how i installed it then i will be persecuted for doing it badly, then maybe even some repository conflicts as it is custom to happen
[14:25] <Wiz_KeeD> And I want to avoid complications but being very thorugh in what I do
[14:25] <JMichaelX> i have a home server running ubuntu 12.04.3. it has 2 audio adapters, one is NVIDIA (digital), and the other is a c-media USB audio adapter. i configured alsa-base.conf to give index 0 to the USB adapter. audio is working, but i cannot adjust volume... using mpd or mocp, etc. any suggestions?
[14:25] <LordDragon> hey all
[14:25] <LordDragon> i am getting a blank screen in the "canonical partner" sectin of software center
[14:25] <LordDragon> i went into "sources" and checked the partner boxes
[14:25] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: right. In my opinion, and BluesKaj seems to echo the same sentiment, getting the .deb file from the dropbox.com site, and installing it that way is best.
[14:25] <LordDragon> did a apt-get update
[14:25] <CiscOH> siberiannerd, i am not sure what that is supposed to mean. i am simply asking if anyone knows of an easy guide for setting up IPSec tunnels between 2 ubuntu serves'
[14:26] <LordDragon> but its still blank after reboot
[14:26] <CiscOH> servers*
[14:26] <LordDragon> anyone know why it might be blank?
[14:26] <Wiz_KeeD> ok SuperLag, thanks for the vote of confidence!
[14:26] <Wiz_KeeD> I will wait and see
[14:27] <Wiz_KeeD> After it finishes installing I can sudo apt-get install the nautilius integration?
[14:27] <siberiannerd> CiscOH, yeah but at the same time you're not comfortable about using openvpn complaining for your taste of ram consumption, do you notice the dissonance in the context?
[14:27] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: it will set up the integration for you automatically. When you double-click on the .deb file, it will download all the dependencies and do the magic.
[14:28] <Wiz_KeeD> Ok then, I will wait and see
[14:28] <LordDragon> is there an apt-get command i can use to install flash?
[14:29] <zihubu> lol
[14:29] <SuperLag> LordDragon: I believe that would be flashplugin-installer
[14:29] <nickguletskii> Hi, what steps should I take if a bug has been falsely marked as "fix released"?
[14:29] <LordDragon> SuperLag: thanks ill try that
[14:29] <SuperLag> LordDragon: i.e. apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[14:29] <genii> LordDragon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:29] <siberiannerd> LordDeath, you're looking for flashplugin-installer probably?
[14:30] <genii> LordDragon: ( Will get Flash plus some other stuff )
[14:30] <SuperLag> LordDragon: yeah, what genii said is more thorough
[14:30] <LordDragon> thanks genii
[14:30] <siberiannerd> oh sorry too many lords here
[14:30] <SuperLag> listen to genii
[14:30] <genii> LordDragon: np
[14:30] <SuperLag> siberiannerd: and not enough ladies
[14:30] <CiscOH> siberiannerd, my statement was that it was using too much memory for the task. one tunnel to another server. i am not connecting other clients to it.
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> I forgot the name of the bot
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> !adobe-air
[14:31] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: ubottu
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> trying to install adobe air in 12.04 64 bits
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> ughh ugly
[14:31] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: yuck. I feel sorry for you, that you need Adobe Air.
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> I really do need it unfortunately :(
[14:32] <siberiannerd> CiscOH, the very best implememntation in context of security is openvpn which also supports compression and udp as you probably know, ssh brings the same degree of secure but you still insist to get a lighter version of something similar, right?
[14:32] <stewbydoo2> so my boss just told me ubuntu server is less secure than microsoft servers..true or false?
[14:33] <stewbydoo2> he said unix in general has much more exploits then windows
[14:33] <Wiz_KeeD> SuperLag, what is the command to get infomration about a certain package on what it does? short description
[14:33] <nickguletskii> hmm, could someone please answer a small question? what steps should I take if a bug has been falsely marked as "fix released"?
[14:33] <stewbydoo2> I need someone to tell me if he is full of shit or if he is right
[14:33] <Sandfly> Hello - I have just upgraded my version of openvpn on ubuntu 1204.3 LTS - I followed the instuctions on the official page http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/i386/openvpn/download - then i did apt-get update & upgrade and basically my entire system has been updated - it looks like it is all ok - in future could i use a command like "apt-get upgrade openvpn" to avoid my entire system being updated ? - thanks
[14:33] <BluesKaj> stewbydoo2, your boiss drank the MS kool ade
[14:33] <DJones> stewbydoo2: Not really a question for this channel, you should probably join #ubuntu-offtopic for a better discussion on that
[14:34] <jcbjoe> does ubuntu have an app thats like itunes ?
[14:34] <CiscOH> i am looking for the lightest possible IPSEC/UDP solution for a single server to server tunnel
[14:34] <Wiz_KeeD> apt-cache show it was
[14:35] <BluesKaj> !itunes
[14:35] <siberiannerd> stewbydoo2, the things is that it doesn't really matter due to the fact that linux systems are harder to exploit because of overall environmental complexities, but that's just my subjective point of view, however the whole discussion is pointless because there is no such thing as "exploit for linux"
[14:36] <davidbrooke> I need some help with a tv remote control and udev....using 13.04 and 13.10...udev assigns the remote control as a keyboard and I can't use the remote with lirc....in past versions of ubuntu...udev didn't bother the remote and I could use lirc...any ideas?
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> is this a good tutorial?
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> http://askubuntu.com/questions/87447/how-can-i-install-adobe-air
[14:36] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[14:36] <g105b> Can anyone recommend iPod software? gtkpod crashes, rhythmbox crashes, banshee works (but the ipod skips after 1 second of each song).
[14:36] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: are you seriously in need of Air... THAT bad? No non-Air alternative?
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> non, tied to it with my life
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> none*
[14:37] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: I would avoid it. Adobe has even stopped development on it.
[14:37] <yeehi> i have a desktop/gui. what command do I use to find out which hardware/driver combination is providing my graphics capability?
[14:37] <Wiz_KeeD> I am very well aware of that
[14:38] <SuperLag> yeehi: lspci | grep -i vga will show you your video card, lsmod will show you want kernel modules are loaded.
[14:38] <SuperLag> s/want/what
[14:38] <yeehi> thanks, SuperLag. What will show up with intel integrated graphics?
[14:39] <siberiannerd> yeehi, you can find your video adapters via `lspci` command and knowing it you can find out which modules may be responsible for i, complete list of them you can get via `lsmod`
[14:39] <BluesKaj> yeehi, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[14:39] <genii> yeehi: In a terminal: sudo lshw -C display    ... the line which reads configuration:     shows the driver in use
[14:39]  * genii sips and ponders how many ways to skin a cat
[14:40] <yeehi> thanks, BluesKaj - let me try that. I know there is an nvidia card. it looks like it might be nouveau drivers... video                  19390  1 nouveau
[14:40] <sorakun> hello
[14:41] <siberiannerd> yeehi, is it a laptop?
[14:41] <clark__> hi
[14:41] <yeehi> desktop, siberiannerd
[14:41] <siberiannerd> good
[14:41] <BluesKaj> yeehi, nouveau is default for nvidia cards on new installs , mostly.
[14:41] <Wiz_KeeD> is it safe to sudo apt-get install ia32-libs?
[14:41] <Wiz_KeeD> it installs ALL 32bit libraries?
[14:41] <yeehi> The command did not provide any output, BluesKaj:  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[14:42] <ky7en> is there any 3D terminal for 3D TV on ubuntu ? :>
[14:42] <JoshDreamland> Anyone think they can help me with my printer? It seems to not be receiving any instructions.
[14:42] <siberiannerd> please answe him someone im begging
[14:42] <BluesKaj> yeehi, i get this Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[14:42] <Wiz_KeeD> Any input?
[14:43] <BluesKaj> yeehi, try dkms status , or glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[14:43] <clark__> hi, can somebody help me to configure password complexity on ubuntu 12. i am facing problem mentioned here http://askubuntu.com/questions/298886/gnome-does-not-enforce-password-complexity-in-12-04
[14:44] <Wiz_KeeD> no one?
[14:44] <yeehi> BluesKaj - glx info tells me opengl vendor vmware open gl renderer string: Gallium on llvmpipe open gl version string 2.1 mesa
[14:46] <BluesKaj> yeehi, ok look in the software center for additional or recommended drivers
[14:46] <jcbjoe> whats the comand that list uuids i know lsblk isn't it
[14:47] <yeehi> i will try that BluesKaj - how about this package: NVidia binary X.Org driver ('current' driver)
[14:47] <BluesKaj> sudo blkid
[14:47] <genii> Wiz_KeeD: You probably want instead to make sure multiarch-support is installed. Then the system just autodecides what packages are needed ( 64 or 32 bit).
[14:47] <ewet> hi, does the gnome activities thing honor mimeapps.list? because if I open an opden document template in nautilus it's starting LibreOffice but if I open it in the activities (search) it opens up in "Documents"
[14:47] <Wiz_KeeD> it is installed genii !
[14:47] <ewet> i'm using the ubuntu-gnome spin
[14:47] <nownot> how do I view last login time / date for a specific user that might span back a few months
[14:48] <BluesKaj> yeehi, usually the nvidia-current driver is the correct one for most cards, unless you wnat bleednig edge
[14:48] <yeehi> great BluesKaj! Let me try it!
[14:48] <SuperLag> genii: oooohhh... I like that "lshw" command. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6097322/
[14:48] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[14:49] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: yes, that will install *all* 32-bit libs
[14:49] <SuperLag> genii: I thought the library detection didn't come until 13.10? or am I mistaken?
[14:50] <genii> Wiz_KeeD: If you need to specify if a package to be installed is 32 or 64 bit, append either :i386   or :amd64
[14:50] <genii> SuperLag: It's been around a while now
[14:50] <Wiz_KeeD> ughh
[14:50] <SuperLag> genii: apt-get install kitchen_sink:amd64 :)
[14:51] <clark__> @nownot - try - lastlog
[14:52] <genii> multiarch has been around since about 12.04
[14:54] <clark__> can somebody confirm that gnome does not enforce password complexity in 12-04  ????
[14:56] <nownot> clark__: lastlog -t 30 only shows current login, not the past months. Am I using this command wrong?
[14:56] <Wiz_KeeD> SuperLag, dropbox downloag 57% :)))
[14:57] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[14:58] <clark__> @nownot@ perhaps you can grab from /var/log/auth.log
[14:58] <clark__> @notnow will show current. you are right
[14:58] <emr> Hello, how i can display 2, 3 and 4 columns from dpkg -l
[14:59] <Linux> Hey just woundering is there a Web Site or any thing that will Teach u how to Debug stuff that is not workin properly or any thing
[15:00] <ferrieres> hi ! seems that my computer is overloaded by process that shouldn't occupy it that much (xorg, ircII, htop, polkitd, dbus-daemon...)
[15:00] <clark__> @nownot you can grep required log from there
[15:00] <ferrieres> Something like 40% of each core
[15:00] <nownot> clark__: yes, trying to find the correct term to grep on
[15:00] <ferrieres> an idea anybody ?
[15:02] <ferrieres> ok, i have to add the laptop is not very young (ProBook 4710) but a week ago, it was running normal (with compiz and gnome) but... things have run badly and *progressively*
[15:03] <ferrieres> assistance needed, pleaaase !
[15:03] <clark__> can somebody confirm that gnome does not enforce password complexity in 12-04 ????
[15:04] <ferrieres> Anybody in here to help ?
[15:05] <decipherstatic> Is anyone else have issues with mouse lag/click bugs with the latest ubuntu updates?  I'm running 12.04
[15:05] <rramalho> hi there
[15:06] <rramalho> is anyone here that has experience with ubuntu server on a VMWare ESX ?
[15:06] <nownot> clark__: is there another command you can think of grep Accepted /var/log/auth.log only shows current login and I know within the past month there have been more
[15:07] <rramalho> I've built a VM from a 12.04 ISO on a ESX 5.1 update 1
[15:07] <rramalho> I can connect everywhere with the guest
[15:07] <rramalho> but I can't ping the guest from the network
[15:08] <clark__> @notnow auth.log is log file. it must contain all authentication activities since you installed your OS. If not deleted/modified by root
[15:08] <clark__> @notnow which OS are you using
[15:10] <BrixSat> hello when i install the recomended driver via aditional drivers i get "WARNING: /sys/module/cedarview_gfx/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind cedarview_gfx driver"
[15:12] <Wiz_KeeD> How do you properly install Oracle Java 6 or newer? :))
[15:12] <Wiz_KeeD> OpenJDK i think
[15:13] <BrixSat> Wiz_KeeD:  apt-get install java ?
[15:13] <Wiz_KeeD> I'm using the software center just to be safe
[15:13] <glambert> eh
[15:13] <Wiz_KeeD> OpenJDK Java 7 Runtime
[15:13] <Wiz_KeeD> that should be ok I gues
[15:14] <Johnny_Linux> its the newest
[15:14] <glambert> what's wrong with apt-get?
[15:14] <Ari-Yang> Wiz_KeeD, apt-get via terminal is safe :b
[15:14] <Wiz_KeeD> yup
[15:14] <Wiz_KeeD> nothing wrong with it
[15:14] <Ari-Yang> he probably prefers GUI is all
[15:14] <Wiz_KeeD> I might misinterpret some names and get something else but no that much of a deal
[15:14] <Wiz_KeeD> nah, i love console
[15:14] <Ari-Yang> ah, fair enough
[15:14] <Wiz_KeeD> just a bit scared since the accident :(
[15:15] <Wiz_KeeD> Great...dropbox download froze at 57%...now what?
[15:16] <jhutchins> Wiz_KeeD: Accident?
[15:16] <BrixSat> hello when i install the recomended driver via aditional drivers i get "WARNING: /sys/module/cedarview_gfx/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind cedarview_gfx driver"
[15:16] <Wiz_KeeD> I do not know what I am supposed to do in these kind of sitiuations...
[15:17] <Wiz_KeeD> I downloaded the 64bit .deb from dropbox, started it, it started downloading, now it froze at 57% for 15 minutes
[15:17] <Wiz_KeeD> If i cancel then what, I have to purge what has been downloaded/installed so far, i try to redo the install? i try to install it via console? will it conflict now because of this....
[15:17] <Wiz_KeeD> etc etc
[15:18] <AndChat|517376> How can i fully install dropbox for ubuntu fat clients?
[15:18] <unknown101> How can i hide my self in the network?
[15:18] <Johnny_Linux> Wiz_KeeD  what did you do to deserve such things.
[15:18] <unknown101> how can i have my self on network?
[15:19] <Wiz_KeeD> Johnny_Linux, I have no clue, it's just the tip
[15:19] <unknown101> how can i hide my self on network***
[15:19] <jhutchins> !dropbox
[15:19] <Wiz_KeeD> Really, what is one supposed to do in this sitiuation?
[15:19] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: how are you downloading it ?
[15:20] <abner_> ..
[15:20] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, downloaded the ubuntu 64bit.deb from dropbox.com and launching the deb with double-click in gui revelaed this download
[15:20] <Wiz_KeeD> someone from here suggested I do so, everyone agreed
[15:20] <Wiz_KeeD> now it's frozen at 57% for more than 20 minutes
[15:20] <jhutchins> unknown101: You can't, of you're online the network has to know, which means you can be found.
[15:20] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: so it's basically pulling in dependencies ?
[15:20] <Wiz_KeeD> I have no idea what it's doing, it froze at 57% for a very long time
[15:20] <unknown101> bs...There always a way to hide your self from the network
[15:20] <Wiz_KeeD> It's just the gui with a silly orange bar
[15:20] <Wiz_KeeD> no actual verbose information
[15:20] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ok, so close that and try again
[15:21] <jhutchins> unknown101: Nope.  If you're on, someone can find you.  The only way not to be found is not to be on.
[15:21] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, no negative consequences>
[15:21] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[15:21] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no, nothing that can't be undone if there is any sort of problem
[15:21] <Wiz_KeeD> of canceling such a proccess midway
[15:21] <Wiz_KeeD> pfuu....
[15:22] <Wiz_KeeD> A better way to install dropbox than? through cmd? as they suggest on the site?
[15:22] <Wiz_KeeD> at least I have some information there?
[15:22] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: just re-try it, see if it hangs at the same point, then move forward from there
[15:22] <Wiz_KeeD> or install from repositories the dropbox-nautilius integration that downloads the packages
[15:22] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: stop rushing and changing
[15:22] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[15:23] <Wiz_KeeD> brb, i'll restart
[15:26] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia
[15:26] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you didn't need to reboot - just kill that process
[15:26] <mhd> I have a machine running 12.04 LTS that doesn't have working sound. Most of the usual hacks such as killing Pulse doesn't work
[15:26] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, now about that I installed adobe air and wanted to restart a whole other things
[15:26] <ikonia> adobe air....come on
[15:26] <mhd> I tried the Sound Troubleshooting but that didn't fix it
[15:26] <Wiz_KeeD> At this stage I have dropbox on the left in the menu, and when i click it it says "In order to use Dropbox, you must download the proprietary daemon"
[15:26] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, i need it badly :(
[15:27] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: why are you pulling in this unsupported junk
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> I cannot get paid without it XD
[15:27] <unknown101> I have a keyboard that is not working with ubntu 13:10
[15:27] <Daniel1_> Hello, I have some questions about Ubuntu programming and Bug fixes. can I ask here or I have to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> I know it's crap, i've passed it and it's working (phew)!!
[15:27] <unknown101> any way to make it work?
[15:27] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: read the top line of the adobe air website
[15:27] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: beginning June 14 2011, Adobe AIR is no longer supported for desktop Linux distributions.
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> I know ikonia i know
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> I know buddy, nothing I can do :(
[15:27] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: of course there is - don't use it
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> Is it too late to remove that and install the dropbox from the software center?
[15:28] <Wiz_KeeD> haha :))
[15:28] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: either a.) use something else b.) run it on a supported platform
[15:28] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I'm not laughing, - I warned you about installing junk from bad software sources
[15:28] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: installing something that's been dead since 2011 = unwise
[15:28] <Wiz_KeeD> It's unsupported that doesn't mean it's junk or malware
[15:28] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no-one said malware
[15:28] <Wiz_KeeD> I know, it's the only ting i NEED
[15:29] <Wiz_KeeD> now moving on to dropbox
[15:29] <ikonia> nah, you're making a mess, you can make a mess on your own
[15:29] <Wiz_KeeD> right, whatever
[15:29] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[15:32] <John_Robinson> How to start programming for Ubuntu?
[15:32] <ikonia> John_Robinson: learning a valid language and fixing bugs is a good introduction
[15:32] <linux_helper2881> when u install a program from Playonlinux where is it Located?
[15:33] <ikonia> linux_helper2881: in your wine directory normally
[15:33] <kostkon> John_Robinson: developer.ubuntu.com
[15:33] <linux_helper2881> ok
[15:34] <John_Robinson> ikonia: what programming languages are needed?
[15:34] <ikonia> John_Robinson: I think you need to do some research if you're asking that question
[15:34] <xacto> hi, I need help with l2tp vpn setup.. Tried couple of things, searched my friend google.. can't connect.  Installed that "L2TP IPsec VPN Manager 1.0.9" package with applet from Werner Jaeger, ÙPretty sure it was configured correctly... still can'T connect. Maybe something special i forgot? Someone can help on this? thx
[15:35] <dagon_> Hey guys! I'm having a little bit of trouble with some vnc. I'm trying to connect with vnc to my desktop running ubuntu 13.04 through my macbook pro. I've tried both the built in server connector and teamviewer but nothing works. There's nothing wrong with the vncserver. Ideas?
[15:35] <ikonia> dagon_: firewall ?
[15:35] <John_Robinson> ikonia: what i a, asking is, do I need to join Launchpad now? How to learn about bug fixing?
[15:35] <xacto> dagon_ maybe your firewall on router?
[15:36] <ikonia> xacto: who said anything about him using a router
[15:36] <ikonia> John_Robinson: if you want to comment/submit a fix, yes
[15:36] <ikonia> John_Robinson: again - basic research will cover this
[15:36] <John_Robinson> ikonia: any tutorial link please?
[15:36] <ikonia> John_Robinson: tutorial on what ?
[15:37] <xacto> suggestion..  like two question in one.. ;)
[15:37] <Wiz_KeeD> SuperLag, using the software center (or downloading with apt-get nautilius dropbox integration is much better and faster)
[15:37] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: where on earth are you, that your download is so slow??
[15:37] <John_Robinson> ikonia: I am new to programming in Linux, n00b so far.
[15:37] <ikonia> John_Robinson: what languages do you write in ?
[15:37] <Wiz_KeeD> It's not that, it's super fast, especially internally but the proccess with the deb from the site was PAINFULLy slow for some reason
[15:38] <Wiz_KeeD> this one installed in like under a minute or so...
[15:38] <John_Robinson> ikonia: C, C++, Python etc
[15:38] <ikonia> John_Robinson: great, so that should be really useful to the ubuntu project.
[15:38] <ikonia> John_Robinson: find some bugs on launchpad and dive in
[15:39] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: that's very odd
[15:39] <linux_helper2881> Ok... When u Install something like Steam from Software Center where is it Located?
[15:39] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah odd indeed SuperLag
[15:39] <John_Robinson> ikonia: Ok, Thanks.
[15:39] <ikonia> linux_helper2881: the binaries are normally in /usr/bin - but it will depend what part you want to access
[15:39] <Wiz_KeeD> Since it said that it used the dropbox site to get the main package
[15:39] <dagon_> ikonia, xacto; Nope. At best I've gotten a grey window. Can't really figure out what the heck is wrong..
[15:39] <snoop> hi all
[15:39] <linux_helper2881> all of it mainly workin on fixing problems
[15:40] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[15:40] <ikonia> linux_helper2881: why don't you say the problem you'e got and people will try to help
[15:40] <ikonia> dagon_: ok, so you think you're getting an initial connection ?
[15:40] <dagon_> ikonia: yup. It connects but all I see is a grey windows with a mouse pointer
[15:41] <dagon_> window*
[15:41] <ikonia> dagon_: so it renders the mouse but nothing else, that's odd
[15:41] <dagon_> ikonia: it sure is
[15:41] <ikonia> dagon_: out of interest, can you connect to the vnc server locally ?
[15:41] <dagon_> yup
[15:41] <dagon_> as far as I know
[15:41] <ikonia> dagon_: and it draws the display properly ?
[15:41] <ikonia> dagon_: can you test it ?
[15:42] <dagon_> ikonia: gonna try it now
[15:42] <snoop> wie kann ich channel liste laden ??
[15:42] <ikonia> !de | snoop
[15:42] <linux_helper2881> well Steam windows games wont work it says <Game> is not compatible for this platform. but for Play On Linux it will work so ima doin some programing to make it work for Wine also for the people that has problems in the furute
[15:42] <snoop> hi
[15:42] <linux_helper2881> wont work for Wine a lone
[15:42] <ikonia> linux_helper2881: you're doing some "programming" to make it work /?
[15:43] <linux_helper2881> well ya kinda thats what i do best and dont ask how i make it work but ima getting close
[15:43] <ikonia> linux_helper2881: what are you changing ?
[15:43] <ikonia> linux_helper2881: the guys who maintain wine are in the channel #winehq
[15:43] <TsarObomba> I fullly understand how sudo works etc, but lets just skip the whole speech on sudo security and stuff.  Can I disable allowing sudo -i somehow?
[15:43] <linux_helper2881> well Login screen is not workin atm
[15:44] <ikonia> linux_helper2881: so i fyou want to make changes to wine upstream, those are the guys to talk to
[15:44] <TsarObomba> I have root login setup, I disallow root from ssh, and I want to disable sudo -i for extra measures
[15:44] <siberiannerd> it's funny how i never get support for hours, days and even weeks coming here lol
[15:44] <linux_helper2881> ok but wineHQ is dead as heck they do replay to ya at all
[15:44] <TsarObomba> siberiannerd: happens all the time to me
[15:44] <ikonia> TsarObomba: doesn't -i only work if it's ALL:ALL
[15:45] <siberiannerd> TsarObomba, you're not alone, mate
[15:45] <TsarObomba> ikonia: not sure. But i still want it to be able to run any other command but that
[15:45] <Darkstar1> Anyone know how I can find out which version of swftools I have on my system?
[15:45] <TsarObomba> siberiannerd: it seems like if its a semi complex question, it gets pushed to the back of the line unless someone with real knowledge is around
[15:45] <ikonia> TsarObomba: from a security point of view, if you still have ALL:ALL disabling -i won't fix anything as you could still su - iwth sudo
[15:45] <TsarObomba> like ikonia :)
[15:46] <TsarObomba> ikonia: eh true
[15:46] <ikonia> TsarObomba: I don't beleve you can disable the -i flag with the ALL:ALL rule in place.
[15:46] <TsarObomba> nevermind then
[15:46] <ikonia> TsarObomba: (and to be honest, I don't see why you would if you leave ALL:ALL in place)
[15:46] <siberiannerd> nothing fixed here for me but "how to configure the panel in unity i never used?"
[15:46] <Desez2tpunk> Anyone able to refer me to installing nvidia video card drivers? Been awhile since I've used Ubuntu, not finding any info on google.
[15:46] <ikonia> siberiannerd: stop moaning please
[15:46] <siberiannerd> ikonia, but i'm close to start crying
[15:46] <ikonia> TsarObomba: I'll have a prod though as I'm interested now as in what allows/blocks the -i
[15:46] <TsarObomba> ikonia: because im not completely security concious and more lazy than anything, and im not worried about local security, i allow passwordless sudo (i dont want the speech, so dont)
[15:47] <dagon_> ikonia: hmm, doesn't work now. I gotta go atm but I'll be back later.
[15:47] <TsarObomba> ikonia: i would think you could do allow all and have a blacklist somehow
[15:47] <ikonia> TsarObomba: I wouldn't waste time disabling -i (or trying to) if you allow passwordless sudo and ALL:ALL
[15:47] <TsarObomba> ikonia: but, better yet, im gonna leave passwordless sudo, block root logins, and only allow security key logins from ssh
[15:47] <TsarObomba> ikonia: it was only gonna be for remote
[15:48] <TsarObomba> if someone hacked the ssh login
[15:48] <ikonia> TsarObomba: remote/local doesn't make a difference
[15:48] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: So you're all up and Dropbox'd now?
[15:48] <jhutchins> siberiannerd: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[15:48] <TsarObomba> but im changing it to security keys only for ssh
[15:48] <Desez2tpunk> Anyone at all...?
[15:48] <TsarObomba> ikonia: uh, sure it does
[15:48] <ikonia> TsarObomba: disabling (trying to) -i is a waste of effort for passwordless ALL:ALL staying in place.
[15:48] <TsarObomba> Im not worried aboyut anyone in my hoiuse doing something nefarious
[15:48] <Wiz_KeeD> SuperLag, seems so, it's syncing and creating the neccesairy folders, the icon on top works good, no errors so far so aparently it's good!
[15:48] <ikonia> TsarObomba: you could look at changing the ALL:ALL:ALL so that differnet hosts have different rules
[15:48] <TsarObomba> Because they arent smart enough to even work linux
[15:48] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: excellent
[15:48] <ikonia> if you wanted to seperate local/no-local rules
[15:48] <TsarObomba> eh, thats true
[15:49] <Wiz_KeeD> The download from dropbox site and .deb run was slower and more painful aparently
[15:49] <TsarObomba> ki think i will stick with ssh keys only
[15:49] <ikonia> eg: box1:all:all box2:all:profile
[15:49] <ikonia> TsarObomba: ssh keys are nothing to do with sudo
[15:49] <TsarObomba> no crap
[15:49] <TsarObomba> But they stop people from logging in if they get my password
[15:49] <jhutchins> Wiz_KeeD: Consider what that might mean about retrieving your files from dropbox if downloading the client is that hard.
[15:49] <TsarObomba> which protects sudo
[15:49] <ikonia> TsarObomba: you can make it as open/profile drive/locked down as you want
[15:49] <TsarObomba> ssh is the entry point
[15:50] <TsarObomba> if i close the entry point, sudoi is useless
[15:50] <TsarObomba> period
[15:50] <TsarObomba> Lets not turn this into a pointless debate, please.
[15:50] <ikonia> TsarObomba: no-one is debating anything, I just answered your sudo question
[15:50] <TsarObomba> If I only allow ssh keys, and dont allow password logins, im good
[15:50] <TsarObomba> ikonia: and ive been saying fdor 5 minutes now i will just skip sudo aand use sshkeys only
[15:50] <ikonia> TsarObomba: it's as secure as you think it is, and your box to open/close as you see fit
[15:51] <ikonia> TsarObomba: what do you mean "skip sudo" ??
[15:51] <mustmodify> I am copying files from a windows 8 machine to an ubuntu machine, both core i7 with SSDs, connected via a gigabit switch. Typically communication between them is fast. Today I'm seeing a copy speed of 115 KB/S instead of the typical > 1MB/s ... any thoughts how I can diagnose the issue?
[15:51] <TsarObomba> crimeney sakes
[15:51] <TsarObomba> ikonia: is engrish not your first language?
[15:52] <mustmodify> load average on the ubuntu machine is 0.01 0.04 0.05 with 43% drive usage
[15:52] <mustmodify> and spare memory
[15:53] <Desez2tpunk> ......Anyone at all able to help???
[15:54] <Wiz_KeeD> Anyone here good with rsa keys and all that?
[15:55] <EdwardSnowden> yes, I'm the rsa key professor
[15:55] <mustmodify> EdwardSnowden: rofl nice
[15:56] <EdwardSnowden> yea
[15:56] <mwallacesd> hi there, I have an incident with 12.04. I created a new user, copy all the old user data with cp -R and than change the permitions with chown -R. The problem is that the new user  CANNOT open Log File Viewer. What I have to do in order to fix it?
[15:56] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[15:56] <Desez2tpunk> Anyone able to refer me to installing nvidia video card drivers? Been awhile since I've used Ubuntu, not finding any info on google.
[15:57] <siberiannerd> Desez2tpunk, nvidia-current package
[15:57] <Desez2tpunk> Thank you.
[15:57] <siberiannerd> Desez2tpunk, wait, is it a laptop?
[15:57] <Desez2tpunk> Desktop siberiannerd
[15:58] <siberiannerd> Desez2tpunk, alright then
[15:58] <Desez2tpunk> 650Ti to be exact.
[15:58] <fabiano_> hello!!
[15:58] <siberiannerd> was asking in case there is infamous optimus thing
[15:59] <siberiannerd> hey, fabiano_
[15:59] <quick-> I have 13.04 and i have forgotten my password . How can i reset it ?
[15:59] <kostkon> !password
[15:59] <siberiannerd> quick-, single mode http://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub
[16:00] <Wiz_KeeD> What is the difference and what should catch my eye when installing multiple libraries and i'm presented with 1. Packages will be installed, 2.Suggested packages 3.following NEW packages will be installed?
[16:00] <mwallacesd> hi there, I have an incident with 12.04. I created a new user, copy all the old user data with cp -R and than change the permitions with chown -R. The problem is that the new user  CANNOT open Log File Viewer. What I have to do in order to fix it?
[16:01] <fabiano_> can u know how use quite ubuntu?
[16:01] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, basically if you're not familiar what are those packages do exactly in terms of their relationships, just press Y
[16:01] <Wiz_KeeD> I am reluctant to press Y if i don't know something
[16:02] <EdwardSnowden> mwallacesd, what Log File Viewer?
[16:02] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, the only option is to read each package's description  and understand what is written in there
[16:03] <Wiz_KeeD> I understand siberiannerd
[16:04] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, keep an eye on those packages that will be installed and correlation between the desired effect hah, you may catch the thing that is missing
[16:04] <z0ran> can anyone tell me, am i going to have any problem if i use zsh as root shell...im using ubuntu 12.04
[16:05] <Wiz_KeeD> siberiannerd, last time i removed some libsql thing, didn't pay attention to what it removed
[16:05] <siberiannerd> z0ran, that shouldn't be a problem (no experience of this here)
[16:05] <Wiz_KeeD> And by the time i saw it removing python firefox and gnome it was too late :))
[16:05] <z0ran> thanks siberiannerd
[16:05] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, suggested packages are more often just recommendations on expanding functional and such
[16:06] <EdwardSnowden> z0ran, zsh is a little different, you'll get errors if you run bash scripts
[16:06] <Wiz_KeeD> One question, if i made a key with ssh keygen rsa thing and added it to multiple servers
[16:06] <Wiz_KeeD> Now that i've formatted it's changed, but i have the backup of the home directory where the old ones are saved
[16:06] <Wiz_KeeD> how can i "translpant" them?
[16:07] <z0ran> EdwardSnowden, thanks for that info, yes, i use a lot bash scripts...so i think i'll reconsider and stay with bash
[16:07] <siberiannerd> z0ran, why do you need zsh at all?
[16:07] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, just copy the key to the .ssh directory
[16:08] <z0ran> just to try siberiannerd...but no, i think i'll stay with bash
[16:08] <Wiz_KeeD> I did that EdwardSnowden , didn't sem to work
[16:08] <Wiz_KeeD> I copied the entire contents even the known_hosts yet it doesn't match
[16:08] <Wiz_KeeD> :)
[16:08] <mwallacesd> Hi there, I lost my connection.
[16:08] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, did you set the permissions? It won't work if the file is has +w
[16:09] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, if the key is writable that is
[16:09] <Wiz_KeeD> pfff EdwardSnowden you may very well be right!!
[16:09] <siberiannerd> z0ran, hah trying stuff that may have a system-wide effect is not a good thing man
[16:09] <antar_> hi people is there any ide for cpp that support gui programming ? on Ubuntu
[16:09] <anew> how can i tail -F into a blank file instead of output on console ?
[16:10] <antar_> anew, use >>
[16:10] <EdwardSnowden> antar_, Eclipse?
[16:10] <mwallacesd> A new user was created on the system, old user's files was copy with cp -R then the permitions was changed with chown -r. (user group was modified too) The problem is that I cannot open Log Files viewer Aplication with this new user.
[16:10] <mwallacesd> What I need to do in order to fix it????
[16:10] <antar_> EdwardSnowden, is eclipse support gui
[16:11] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[16:11] <anew> holy shit edwardsnowden is in this channel
[16:11] <anew> does the media know about this ?
[16:11] <EdwardSnowden> antar_, you're trying to write gui apps or you want an ide that has a gui?
[16:11] <antar_> EdwardSnowden, i got a lot of errors when using graphic.h , gtk.h and qt
[16:12] <antar_> EdwardSnowden, Ide that has a gui
[16:12] <Wiz_KeeD> I gave the exact same permissions as the ones generated from ssh keygen EdwardSnowden
[16:12] <Wiz_KeeD> Agent admitted failure to sign using the key.
[16:12] <Wiz_KeeD> something wrong...
[16:12] <EdwardSnowden> antar_, Then you want Eclipse. Download the C++ version
[16:13] <antar_> oh i downloaded the java version and added the c/c++ cdt
[16:13] <EdwardSnowden> anew, Yes it's me the hero of the free peoples of the United States of America
[16:13] <mustmodify> I am copying files from a windows 8 machine to an ubuntu machine, both core i7 with SSDs, connected via a gigabit switch. Typically communication between them is fast. Today I'm seeing a copy speed of 115 KB/S instead of the typical > 1MB/s ... any thoughts how I can diagnose the issue? load average on the ubuntu machine is 0.01 0.04 0.05 with 43% drive usage and some
[16:13] <anew> holy shit
[16:13] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, What errors do you get?
[16:13] <anew> go edward go
[16:13] <anew> we're rooting for u
[16:14] <anew> cant wait to tell my wife i talked to snowden in chat
[16:14] <Wiz_KeeD> the one i just pasted EdwardSnowden
[16:14] <Wiz_KeeD> "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key."
[16:15] <EdwardSnowden> anew, Thanks, I'll do my best to help in recapturing the Internet from the evil organizations.
[16:16] <xcalibur1978> hi! I have an error starting netflix in Ubuntu (whine / silverlight / Gnome): Compositing is not available, please enable compositing support and relaunch Netflix Desktop
[16:16] <xcalibur1978> can anyone tell me what to do about it?
[16:16] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, man ssh-add
[16:17] <mwallacesd> WELL
[16:17] <mwallacesd> WELL
[16:17] <mwallacesd> A new user was created on the system, old user's files was copy with cp -R then the permitions was changed with chown -r. (user group was modified too) The problem is that I cannot open Log Files viewer Aplication with this new user.
[16:17] <Wiz_KeeD> suddenly it started working EdwardSnowden :\
[16:17] <mwallacesd> I could open with sudo sudo gnome-system-log
[16:17] <mwallacesd> but I want to open with my new user.
[16:17] <mwallacesd> Any suggestion?
[16:18] <xcalibur1978> mwallecesd: the command "chmod 755" would make it executable for the user who created it and readable for both the group and guest users
[16:19] <Pici> mwallacesd: add the user to the adm group to allow them to read items in /var/log/
[16:19] <EdwardSnowden> xcalibur1978, You have to use compiz to enable compositing
[16:19] <mwallacesd> THANKS a lot Pici
[16:19] <xcalibur1978> Thanx Edward Snowden
[16:19] <mwallacesd> the group name is just adm, is it correctly?
[16:19] <Darkstar1> anyone know how to tell which version of swftools is in the repository?
[16:20] <mwallacesd> usermod: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later
[16:20] <Pici> mwallacesd: yes. if you look, you should see that adm has group ownership of most of the files in /var/log
[16:21] <mhd> What do I do when https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure has failed to give me sound?
[16:22] <EdwardSnowden> Darkstar1, apt-cache show swftools
[16:22] <OerHeks> !info swftools | Darkstar1
[16:22] <Darkstar1> thanks guys
[16:23] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, all well with that
[16:23] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, nice
[16:23] <Wiz_KeeD> Do you think you could help me on my last and biggest endevaour of installing the wireless driver? :(
[16:23] <Wiz_KeeD> Since it didn't work by default
[16:24] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, check the kernel module lspci -k
[16:24] <banisterfiend> hi
[16:24] <banisterfiend> i have a question not directly related to ubuntu, but i can't think where else to ask, can i try you guys here?
[16:25] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097714/
[16:25] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, I got a huge list...now what?
[16:25] <banisterfiend> anyway, here it is: http://superuser.com/questions/644446/cant-login-to-youtube-since-changing-account-name
[16:25] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Paste it http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[16:26] <mwallacesd> Pici, my new user cannot see any group just his own group (i dont know the other group names or how to see it) but I run the command usermod -a -G adm mwallacesd
[16:26] <mwallacesd>  cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later.
[16:26] <mwallacesd> What is wrong?
[16:26] <Wiz_KeeD> could you please teach me how to interpret this and find the proper driver for it EdwardSnowden ? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097720/
[16:27] <CatKiller> mwallacesd: You need to run this as "sudo"?
[16:27] <Pici> mwallacesd: you need to use sudo to change your own
[16:27] <mwallacesd> yes it is.
[16:28] <CatKiller> Pici: You don't need sudo to change your own you mean?
[16:28] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, It says you have a Dell wireless card using the ssb driver
[16:28] <Wiz_KeeD> ssb driver, whatever that means
[16:28] <Pici> CatKiller: you need sudo to change even your own groups
[16:28] <CatKiller> ahhh
[16:28] <CatKiller> well then anyways running this as sudo would work
[16:29] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Do you see drivers for it in Additional Drivers?
[16:29] <Wiz_KeeD> CatKiller, I didn't manage to do the lvm thing since it was a bit complicated, I see it's the only options
[16:29] <arcsky> ist possible to upgrade to latest ubuntu gtom Ubuntu 11.04
[16:29] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, I did, it said something about publisher  not allowing access to source blabla, I clicked allow and it errored out during the install
[16:29] <Wiz_KeeD> :(
[16:29] <Monday> which has the fastest boot time Ubuntu, Xubuntu or Lubuntu?
[16:29] <CatKiller> Wiz_KeeD: Well then you also have FS level snapshots
[16:29] <CatKiller> which are probably better anyways
[16:29] <CatKiller> like zfs for instance
[16:29] <Wiz_KeeD> should I try again, or revert what it did?
[16:29] <Wiz_KeeD> CatKiller, FS level snapshots?
[16:29] <CatKiller> better in your case
[16:29] <CatKiller> Filesystem level
[16:30] <mwallacesd> Pici you right it wasn't sudo.. now I run sudo usermod -a -G adm mwallacesd
[16:30] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, some propietary drivers may require binary firmware
[16:30] <mwallacesd> but takes no effect
[16:30] <mwallacesd> I need to restart
[16:30] <mwallacesd> ?
[16:30] <CatKiller> Instead of snapshotting the entire "volume" you snapshot "files"
[16:30] <EdwardSnowden> banisterfiend, Log in with your gmail account
[16:30] <CatKiller> the entire filesystem in a way
[16:30] <Pici> mwallacesd: you need a new login shell to see the changes, a new terminal window generally doesn't provide that.
[16:30] <banisterfiend> EdwardSnowden i did
[16:30] <mwallacesd> Ok
[16:30] <banisterfiend> EdwardSnowden i get that error
[16:30] <mwallacesd> I will test
[16:30] <mwallacesd> Thanks a lot.
[16:31] <Wiz_KeeD> Catbuntu, filesystem, isn't it more important to save the libraries and all that?
[16:31] <Wiz_KeeD> siberiannerd, that's chinese to me, idk what to do
[16:31] <Wiz_KeeD> I would love to read and learn and educate myself
[16:32] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, any suggestions?
[16:32] <banisterfiend> EdwardSnowden this is my problem, but the solution there does not help: http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/youtube/Vkd5er1ojN4
[16:32] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, most often this being fixed via tricky quest which starts from google, sometimes such stock drivers just work not good, that can appear to be painful subject
[16:33] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Can you uninstall the drivers?
[16:33] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, I do not know and i'm scared to make any rash moves since i've JUST placed my system back and I can start working, I already lost 2 days of work because of this crap :(
[16:33] <moksudxp> I need help, there is no one ?
[16:33] <Kyan`> 'sera
[16:34] <Kyan`> HI
[16:34] <Zerpex> Wiz_KeeD: NSA has a copy
[16:34] <Wiz_KeeD> right
[16:34] <Wiz_KeeD> mighty helpful
[16:34] <moksudxp> I need help to install gui in ubuntu server
[16:34] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, In the Additional Drivers, does it have the driver enabled?
[16:35] <EdwardSnowden> moksudxp, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:35] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, it says This driver is not activated
[16:35] <Wiz_KeeD> And when i press activate it errors out
[16:35] <Wiz_KeeD> Atleast it did first time, never tried the second time
[16:35] <lucenut> Hey guys. I have been reading/watching videos about ubuntu on a nexus 10. Anyone running it?
[16:35] <Wiz_KeeD>  This package contains Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driver for use with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4313-, BCM4321-, BCM4322-, BCM43224-, and BCM43225-, BCM43227- and BCM43228-based hardware.
[16:36] <moksudxp> impossible to find package ubuntu-desktop
[16:36] <lucenut> I found a 16G locally on Craigslist for $200 and ready to dive in.
[16:36] <moksudxp> impossible to find package ubuntu-desktop
[16:36] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, I found a possible solution here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/212504
[16:37] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Basically you do this sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[16:37] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, And sudo modprobe b43
[16:37] <EdwardSnowden> moksudxp, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:38] <Wiz_KeeD> b43-fwcutter - Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
[16:38] <lucenut> Any tablet interest/experience here? :-)
[16:38] <moksudxp> Impossible to download some index files...
[16:38] <Wiz_KeeD> did a -s seems ok
[16:38] <Wiz_KeeD> launching the proper one
[16:39] <PWD__> I started the distribution business, is there any software i can use on Linux for stock & Sales management ?
[16:39] <moksudxp> Impossible to recover http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-backports/universe/i18n/Translation-en
[16:39] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, if this won't end good talking of experience using broadcom wireless and you will decide to get rid of it at any cost for some reason, you may find useful to read about atheros chipset in spectrum of details connected to linux support and driver development process
[16:40] <Wiz_KeeD> chinese + japanese there siberiannerd :))
[16:40] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, nothing came up after the install
[16:40] <Wiz_KeeD> should I try to run it?
[16:40] <jase21> Hi is there any way to know user account creation time?
[16:40] <Wiz_KeeD> from the console
[16:40] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[16:40] <EdwardSnowden> PWD__, Libreoffice Calc
[16:40] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, one ignorant semi-stupid russian actually but ok
[16:41] <Wiz_KeeD> hahaha, lol
[16:41] <Wiz_KeeD> atheros chipset ?
[16:41] <moksudxp> @EdwardSnowden after I write the command, ubuntu shows me a lot of errors like "Impossible to recover http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-backports/universe/i18n/Translation-en"
[16:41] <siberiannerd> yep
[16:41] <Wiz_KeeD> Meaning when I buy a new laptop I should check the hardware to see how well it connects with linux?
[16:41] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Try sudo modprobe b43
[16:41] <otak> lucenut: #ubuntu-touch
[16:41] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, there were days when this was the only way to get something working with linux
[16:42] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, nothing happened
[16:42] <siberiannerd> you always buy hardware to install software on it for some certain purposes
[16:42] <Wiz_KeeD> siberiannerd, what should I look for when shopping for my next laptop then?
[16:42] <siberiannerd> so it may appear to be a good idea to check the specs from this side
[16:42] <Wiz_KeeD> so it's *nix ubuntu frindly?
[16:42] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, You have to reboot and see if network manager see your access points
[16:42] <siberiannerd> you may come here with it's specs
[16:42] <siberiannerd> or just model
[16:42] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, okay brb!
[16:42] <siberiannerd> some assumptions can be made according to it
[16:43] <moksudxp> @EdwardSnowden after I write the command, ubuntu shows me a lot of errors like "Impossible to recover http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-backports/universe/i18n/Translation-en"
[16:44] <EdwardSnowden> moksudxp, sudo apt-get clean
[16:44] <Wiz_KeeD> Actually I have to wait a bit until I finish a download
[16:44] <nishttal2> weird issue.. if I turn off my screen and turn it back on.. there is no signal.. and screen goes to power save mode... I then have to hard reboot to get the screen back... what is wrong?
[16:45] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Ok, if it doesn't work you have to remove the b43-fwcutter package and reinstall it
[16:45] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, that's pretty...strange
[16:45] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, There's also the open source firmware firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[16:46] <Kyan`> EdwardSnowden, you've got a strong nick.
[16:46] <Wiz_KeeD> I saw the guy on launchpad telling the other one to remove and purge all the other drivers
[16:46] <nyuszika7h> hi, how do I enable font smoothing in i3wm?
[16:46] <moksudxp> after I wrote this command : "sudo apt-get clean" Ubuntu dont shows me nothing....
[16:46] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, You can try the open source one instead if it doesn't work
[16:46] <Wiz_KeeD> made exactly for this card?
[16:46] <EdwardSnowden> Kyan`, Yes, I've got nothing to hide
[16:47] <Kyan`> EdwardSnowden, LOL
[16:48] <siberiannerd> this channel being read by nsa now :<
[16:48] <lucenut> Siberian, I have read a bunch about ubuntu-touch on nexus 10. Looks solid.
[16:48] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Also check if b43 is blacklisted
[16:48] <siberiannerd> awesome
[16:48] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i do that EdwardSnowden ?
[16:48] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Check f this exists /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bcm43.conf
[16:49] <Wiz_KeeD> what does blacklisted mean?
[16:49] <xangua> siberiannerd: public logs can be read by anyone
[16:49] <siberiannerd> xangua, i know =)
[16:49] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Blacklisting prevents modules from being loaded
[16:49] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, http://pastebin.com/EyirfJYx
[16:49] <Wiz_KeeD> why would they do that....
[16:50] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Delete the line that says blacklist b43 and b43legacy
[16:50] <EdwardSnowden> Then remove the driver
[16:50] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, sudo apt-get purge b43-fwcutter
[16:50] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, that would be wrong if there were 2 working drivers which attempt to provide interface to the device, right?
[16:50] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, And reinstall sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[16:51] <EdwardSnowden> brb
[16:51] <Wiz_KeeD> What is the difference between apt-get purge b43-fwcutter and apt-get remove package --purge
[16:53] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, --purge remove for aptitude purge for apt
[16:56] <Catbuntu> Does Ubuntu 12.04.3 have the >=Quantal Ambiance and Radiance themes?
[16:56] <Catbuntu> I mean, are they backported?
[16:59] <mrrcp> good day
[17:00] <elimik> I just purchased the humble indie bundle 9 and I see that the game "Fez" can be downloaded for linux only as a binary. I know I could just put the binary in my home folder, but what is best directory to put it?
[17:04] <EdwardSnowden> elimik, just put it in your home. If you need to launch it from terminal regularly just symlink  it in /usr/bin
[17:04] <cong> \local\bin i think
[17:05] <cong> i think there's a ~/.local/bin
[17:05] <Xantus> Hi Leute
[17:05] <Xantus> jemand Deutsch hier ?
[17:06] <Pici> !de | Xantus
[17:06] <Benkinooby> hi - i use ubuntu and fluxbox (so no big wizzards) and i want to change the keyboard layout of my system. i read instructions but either the used files do ont exist or it did not work. where can i see what layouts are available and where do i set them. .Xmodmap seems to be for single keys only.
[17:06] <Xantus> oky , thanks lot and bye ;-)
[17:12] <mal10c> Benkinooby: not sure what file it's modifying, but does this help?  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration"
[17:13] <Benkinooby> mal10c: hope so? https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard just found it here (as you did too i guess) brb
[17:17] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097714/
[17:17] <Wiz_KeeD> Help guys, the wireless is still not working :((
[17:19] <Benkinooby> mal10c: are you the guy who mentioned the dpkg-refconfigure for the keyboard layout?
[17:20] <mal10c> Benkinooby: yep, that's me.  i also found a command setxkbmap. That might work for you too
[17:20] <Wiz_KeeD> halp? :(
[17:21] <racho> Wiz_KeeD, what's the chip model?
[17:21] <Benkinooby> mal10c: the reconfigure helped me. it modifies /etc/default/keyboard
[17:22] <Benkinooby> mal10c: wooo - did you know that there is tab-completion for paths in ubuntu Oo?! nice one!
[17:22] <mal10c> Benkinooby: ah, I'll remember that file.  I haven't worked wtih /etc/default/keyboard
[17:22] <Benkinooby> mal10c: well i wanted to edit it manually but i didn't find the valid options to put there... well seems like the WANT me to do it through that reconfigure
[17:22] <Wiz_KeeD> 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)	Subsystem: Dell Wireless 1397 WLAN Mini-Card	Kernel modules: ssb
[17:23] <racho> Wiz_KeeD, oh good the old broadcom c*ap.. doesn't it show up in restricted drivers?
[17:24] <Wiz_KeeD> :(
[17:24] <Wiz_KeeD> I have to run now, shit
[17:24] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks for the help racho
[17:24] <Wiz_KeeD> see you later
[17:24] <Monday> which is the fastest file system for linux?
[17:25] <daftykins> Monday: totally depends on what you intend to store
[17:25] <Benkinooby> mal10c: anyway it worked. it's a bit confusing that there are so many ways... xmodmap, setxkbmap and reconfigigure... hm, from the manpage of setxkbmap i guess this will only kick in, if X11 is up - so if you'Re lost without X11 i am not sure it will have effect...
[17:25] <snqL> true pacany govoryat na russkom
[17:25] <snqL> english dlya slabih
[17:26] <Benkinooby> mal10c: well, the reconfigure also shows effect in virtual terminal (no X11 there...) - just for your information. thank you for your help and interest
[17:27] <mal10c> Benkinooby: no problem.  glad it worked out. i learned something there too
[17:27] <racho> Monday, generally ext4 otherwsie => lots of small files can cope with slow mounting -> ReiserFS; large files -> XFS/ZFS; feeling experimental -> btrfs
[17:29] <Monday> so i guess not one uses ext2 or ext 3 anymore
[17:29] <dadsminecraft> hello, I ama linux noob trying to set-up a minecraft server for someone, I need to enable or create ssh for them to be able to properley start and stop the server, I have xubuntu installed with Openssh and the required dependencies also
[17:29] <racho> Monday, i still use ext3 on most of the servers i manage.. it works good
[17:29] <Benkinooby> mal10c: better remember the dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration - it is easier than to look up possible options for /tec/default/keyboard
[17:29] <Benkinooby> !lightdm
[17:31] <dadsminecraft> I am not sure what else I need to do I guess I just assumed the ssh server would reflect the systems users passwords, but I am not able to log on with putty from windows machine
[17:35] <racho> dadsminecraft, usually it DOES reflect the system users. does the account you're trying to log in exists? have you installed the full ssh-suite (the server (sshd) + client) or only the client). is there some subtle network thing that's working against you?
[17:40] <dadsminecraft> Is there anyone here that can help me through setting up ssh server on my xbunutu box please?
[17:41] <defaultro> is this a good way to install LAMP? sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[17:42] <genii> dadsminecraft: Just need to install openssh-server, either from software center or by sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server ..in a terminal.
[17:42] <daftykins> defaultro: yeah nothing wrong with that
[17:42] <defaultro> cool
[17:42] <daftykins> defaultro: or just "sudo tasksel" then use the menu that comes up to do it
[17:42] <defaultro> got it
[17:42] <genii> defaultro: Alternately just run sudo tasksel  and check it off
[17:43] <defaultro> will do
[17:43] <genii> ( along with possible other useful things like ssh server.... )
[17:43] <defaultro> the reason why we want to use it is because we would like to automate our scaling in amazon
[17:44] <jay__> hi
[17:44] <jay__> anyone may help me with a php problem
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> !anyone
[17:45] <defaultro> lol
[17:46] <IdleOne> jay__: ##php can
[17:46] <dadsminecraft> ok done and done, but when I do try and connect with putty, It asks for name, and password, I enter my user name and then to password and is just keeps asking for password, do I have to set-up ssh users? I assumed they would be users on the system
[17:47] <dadsminecraft> again all I did was install ssh server and try and connect
[17:47] <Marlenee> is ubuntu provide ssh servers , VPS , Deicated servers ?
[17:47] <racho> Marlenee, yes and yes and that's true of almost all linux distros
[17:48] <Marlenee> racho : iam talk about is ubuntu company sell   ssh servers , VPS , Deicated servers ?
[17:49] <Marlenee> racho : iam not talking about OS
[17:49] <daftykins> oh crikey Marlenee is back
[17:49] <daftykins> Marlenee: your english really isn't good enough to ask the things you try to ask
[17:50] <horrow> lol
[17:50] <dadsminecraft> neither is mine dafty and I was born raised south dakota
[17:51] <daftykins> dadsminecraft: well i understood that sentence so you're one up on Marlenee already
[17:51] <dadsminecraft> lol, ok but that was a staement I dont understand enough to ask the questions I need to answer
[17:51] <rypervenche> Marlenee: Where are you from?
[17:52] <OerHeks> Canonical/ubuntu only sells hardware-mouses AFAIK
[17:52] <Marlenee> US
[17:52] <cowbacon> Marlenee: no ubuntu doesn't sell dedicated servers. you need to look elsewhere for that im afraid
[17:52] <Marlenee> iam trying to deliver my point
[17:52] <rypervenche> Marlenee: What is your native language?
[17:52] <Sirisian|Work> So is /usr/share/zoneinfo/ like a complete olson DB for timezones? Writing some software that runs on ubuntu and I figure I'll just query that for them locally if that's the case.
[17:52] <__raven> xubuntu 12.04.3 lts: build of http://sourceforge.net/projects/electricowl/files/latest/download results in that: http://pastebin.com/8bEGC3sY - all headers installed - whats the problem?
[17:52] <rypervenche> Marlenee: Your time shows you to be in GMT+2, which is not in the U.S.
[17:53] <Marlenee> rypervenche : dont bing me
[17:53] <horrow> +2 sofia talin vilnus
[17:53] <horrow> and other
[17:53] <horrow> :D
[17:54] <quackers> o/ all  -  any chance of some guidance/suggestions please?
[17:54] <bhavesh> How can I install and use Java JDK on ubuntu without root and internet access?
[17:55] <quackers> I attempted to use synaptic to install laptop-mode-tools which seg faulted synaptic - now Ubuntu just gives a kernel panic
[17:55] <cowbacon> bhavesh: you cant. you need root to install software
[17:55] <quackers> I can't get to tty
[17:56] <bhavesh> cowbacon: I just read here http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml that I can install it to my home directory without root access
[17:56] <OerHeks> bhavesh, you need root. after that, you could use apt-on-cd
[17:56] <OerHeks> !offline
[17:56] <bhavesh> cowbacon: but that must be JRE..
[17:57] <cowbacon> bhavesh: if you want it locally then you can just follow the guide in the link you posted. but if you want it installed and usuable for many users without tinkering you need root
[17:58] <bhavesh> cowbacon: I just want it for myself.
[17:58] <naibed> i have to install debian because ubuntu doesn't have haskell packages
[17:58] <Marlenee> any site provide info about ubuntu certified cloud ?
[18:00] <dadsminecraft> no help on the ssh server set-up? If there is anything to set-up? please I have looked around before coming here, I hate to beg , but I'm like halh retarded half windows
[18:01] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: whats your question?
[18:02] <dadsminecraft> I installed openssh, thats it mind you, and in putty I enter my system user name and it just asks for password over and over
[18:03] <Amis> Hello! I tried to install Ubuntu 12.04 through Wubi but after the first reboot (first boot into Ubuntu) it tells me "No root file system is defined" during verification of installation configuration or something. What's up with that?
[18:03] <dadsminecraft> do I have to set-up ssh users and if so where and how?
[18:03] <Dennis8162> Hi I wan't to Install WINE on a computer without internet access. Which file do i download for Ubuntu 13 -32bit? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wine1.4/
[18:03] <darth_damian_000> Hello. Does the command sudo apt-get update suffice to update the OS? Must I follow with sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[18:04] <kostkon> darth_damian_000, yes
[18:04] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: and you're sure its the correct password? try changing your password in ubuntu to something simple like 123456 just to see if its nothing wrong with the sending of the password
[18:04] <darth_damian_000> kostkon, yes to which question?
[18:04] <kostkon> darth_damian_000, 2nd one
[18:04] <darth_damian_000> thanks
[18:04] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: and you also need to use the username on the debian machine, not the real name, for example if your real name is john smith and your username is jsmith its jsmith you need to use to log in
[18:04] <dadsminecraft> ok I am correct that it does use system users fot acess though
[18:05] <kostkon> !sshd | dadsminecraft
[18:05] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: you wont need to set up any users to be able to connect with ssh, it uses system users by default
[18:05] <OerHeks> dadsminecraft, pretty easy https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html and add user "jim" >> http://askubuntu.com/a/16661
[18:06] <dadsminecraft> ok I will be back after a bit of reading and testing, TY
[18:06] <Benkinooby> hi - is it true that xdm is troublesome under ubuntu?
[18:06] <cowbacon> good luck
[18:08] <zykotick9> Benkinooby: xdm is rather... reto...
[18:09] <rypervenche> Wow, Marlenee is pretty bad.
[18:09] <Benkinooby> zykotick9: welly, my system is rather retro too.. 800 Mhz, 1 GB ram, 50 GB hdd
[18:09] <jcbjoe> does anyone use the i3-wm ?
[18:09] <Benkinooby> zykotick9: but i am more worried about dbus and all that - i heard that you will suffer more than benefit from xdm
[18:09] <Benkinooby> since it can not handle certain things like console kit daemon
[18:10] <Benkinooby> i tried to bott with it and got stuck - now i want to know if i should try to fix it, or drop it
[18:10] <zykotick9> Benkinooby: i haven't used xdm in years.  you might consider lightdm or even slim as alternatives?  best of luck.
[18:11] <Benkinooby> zykotick9: i am using lightdm right now - seems to work
[18:11] <dadsminecraft> hmmm well it did not like my previous password then cause I made a new user and easy pass and boom right in, totally fell retarded at this point
[18:13] <vite> whats the best route for energy efficient WS. Install the server version of ubuntu and build a light weight desktop enviroment on top of that or go with something like lubuntu straight away?
[18:13] <kostkon> vite, WS?
[18:14] <vite> kostkon: work station
[18:14] <kostkon> ah
[18:15] <dadsminecraft> is there a password size limit for ssh?
[18:15] <OerHeks> !minimal
[18:15] <vite> OerHeks: thanks
[18:15] <cowbacon> vite: it depends on what you actually need. if you need the absolute minimum without sound etc go with server -> manual install of WM. but if you want media usage id recommend going with xubuntu/lubuntu and it'll be fixed for you
[18:15] <rypervenche> dadsminecraft: SSH uses the user on the system. And no, not that I know of.
[18:15] <OerHeks> vite, also your start with server iso is a good way
[18:16] <bwayne> is it possible to configure the alt-tab window switch to include those windows which are on another virtual desktop?
[18:16] <bwayne> e.g. I have terminal on desktop #4. on desktop #1, alt-tab doesn't show it. any configuration to let it?
[18:16] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: heres a test for you. on your ubuntu system type ssh localhost
[18:16] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: and if your password works there then we know your user/pass works locally with ssh
[18:17] <dtcrshr> I have this oldschool backup of an ubuntu 10.04 lts with an experimental project, but the password is lost, can anyone point me to a nice guide to acces and change the root password?
[18:17] <dtcrshr> im using vmware
[18:19] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-recover-root-password-under-linux-with-single-user-mode/
[18:19] <cowbacon> woops
[18:19] <cowbacon> dtcrshr: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-recover-root-password-under-linux-with-single-user-mode/ *
[18:19] <vite> OerHeks: does the minimal version have the option to encrypt the drive?
[18:20] <cowbacon> vite: you would probably need to download ecryptfs
[18:20] <dadsminecraft> yep cow it wors locar but not remote for "my" account and the newly created account does the ssh in just fine but "my" account does not remote in. Not a huge deal I know it is working.
[18:21] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: are you perhaps using special chars in your password? that wont get translated correctly when sending from windows to linux. try chaning the password and see if it works
[18:24] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: also, this is a bit more advanced to set up but it makes sshing into machines super easy once it's set up: http://www.howtoforge.com/ssh_key_based_logins_putty
[18:24] <dadsminecraft> thank-you for your guidance, feel like holding my hand through firewall and ip tables, nvm I must read and learn this crap, I feel too old to learn all this stuff. Umm no no special chars but I will change pass and try that in a bit, as long as a user I set-up can ssh into his directory I am happy.
[18:24] <OerHeks> vite i look at these screenshots and find only user space encryption, not the whole drive http://amjjawad.blogspot.nl/2013/07/ubuntu-mini-iso-installation-process.html
[18:24] <dadsminecraft> yes the whole key based logins is what got me thinking I was missing something as I was reading thee man pages
[18:25] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: dadsminecraft ubuntu has a good utility for firewall, ufw (and gufw for graphical)
[18:25] <cowbacon> !ufw | dadsminecraft
[18:25] <bwayne> found it. gconf-editor /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options/ --> toggle alt_tab_bias_viewpot
[18:28] <dadsminecraft> you guys have been great, really, I will get on those, I def needs gui, being a windows tard since win 3.1, but I will be back,
[18:29] <cowbacon> good luck
[18:29] <dadsminecraft> thanks I really do need it
[18:31] <dtcrshr> thanks cowbacon ill get it on
[18:32] <naibed> why ubuntu repository has no haskell
[18:33] <bazhang> haskell-debian-utils   naibed ?
[18:33] <bazhang> apt-cache search haskell naibed
[18:34] <trism> naibed: we have haskell, but 13.04 doesn't have the haskell-platform package because the new one wasn't ready in time for the release
[18:34] <trism> naibed: you can still install the individual packages that make up the platform
[18:36] <dadsminecraft> yus firestarter has a freaking wixard, all down hill
[18:37] <TESLA33> hi
[18:42] <lesshaste> I used to have a music server running but then I upgraded.. how do I check if it is still running?
[18:42] <lesshaste> the trick is that I can't remember what it was called :)
[18:42] <rypervenche> lesshaste: Do you know what port it's running on? You can use netstat or lsof depending on what information you can search for.
[18:43] <rypervenche> lesshaste: netstat -plunt
[18:43] <lesshaste> rypervenche, it is using whatever the standard is.. dlna?
[18:44] <lesshaste> netstat -plunt only shows dropbox as a program name although quite a lot of other things too without names
[18:44] <lesshaste> aha.. mediatomb!
[18:44] <lesshaste> that's what it was called
[18:45] <lesshaste> sudo netstat -plunt answers it
[18:45] <lesshaste> thatnks!
[18:45] <lesshaste> you need sudo to get the names it seems
[18:45] <rypervenche> Yep
[18:48] <goosie2020> Hello everyone
[18:48] <goosie2020> I have a quick question
[18:48] <iDangerMouse> Sure
[18:49] <daftykins> goosie2020: ask away
[18:49] <goosie2020> You know how in some distros down on the bottom (or top depending on where it is) of the taskbar there are four squares representing different desktops to help you organize the tasks you are working on
[18:49] <iDangerMouse> um ya
[18:49] <bazhang> workspaces
[18:50] <Oxymoron> How do you fix the cups filter options? I dont know why, but since latest ubuntu releases it print from wrong casette all the time, and when I force to print from rear casette with paper, then you cannot even see the text printed, thats how bad quality it is. I know the printer works as it works from my Windows computer. Seriously how to fix? I have installed the printers official driver from Canon, cups-common
[18:50] <goosie2020> well right now I am on a kubuntu distro im trying out. so far I like it but i dont see those from the start. but yet, in this guys distro - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Kubuntu-8.10-miniscreenshot.png
[18:50] <goosie2020> he is using kubuntu as welll
[18:50] <goosie2020> well
[18:50] <goosie2020> but he managed to get those on his distro
[18:51] <iDangerMouse> Sorry, haven't used Kubuntu in forever.
[18:51] <daftykins> goosie2020: it's probably in the control panel equivalent of KDE
[18:51] <goosie2020> yea workspaces thats what they are called
[18:51] <daftykins> enabling workspaces or something
[18:51] <goosie2020> how do i access that specific CP
[18:51] <napsc> maybe workspace switcher
[18:51] <iDangerMouse> But
[18:51] <iDangerMouse> There is a way...
[18:51] <iDangerMouse> Right-click on the workspace icons and go to preferences...you can add as many as you need.
[18:52] <goosie2020> What about "Workspace Behavior"
[18:52] <iDangerMouse> See this, http://superuser.com/questions/596278/kubuntu-are-there-workspaces-in-kubuntu-and-how-can-i-switch-between-them-wi
[18:53] <goosie2020> Ok I got them configured now
[18:54] <goosie2020> And I can switch between them using the keyboard shortcuts...but what do I have to do to put that little button on my taskbar
[18:54] <daftykins> right click add?
[18:55] <iDangerMouse> http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html
[18:55] <iDangerMouse> Read the manual will come handy and explains everything.
[18:56] <altermann> hi there
[18:56] <daftykins> hi
[18:56] <altermann> i was in here yesterday with some issues that i was having while trying to reinstall ubuntu-desktop or kde and some fine individuals were trying to help but i had no way of pasting stuff
[18:56] <altermann> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6098322/
[18:57] <altermann> i'm getting an error that says my package manager is broken
[18:57] <altermann> ubuntu is not really my bread and butter so i need some assistance if possible
[18:58] <iDangerMouse> sudo apt-get -f install
[18:58] <altermann> iDangerMouse: i've done that to no avail
[18:59] <iDangerMouse> sudo apt-get autoclean
[18:59] <iDangerMouse> sudo apt-get clean
[18:59] <iDangerMouse> sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:59] <iDangerMouse> sudo dpkg --remove -force --force-remove-reinstreq package name
[19:00] <altermann> i shall try that
[19:00] <altermann> thank you
[19:00] <iDangerMouse> sure
[19:01] <iDangerMouse> I'll hush and let others help :P
[19:02] <upd_> if that does not help try http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[19:02] <TheHopeBuster> w00p
[19:03] <Oxymoron> How do you fix the cups filter options? I dont know why, but since latest ubuntu releases it print from wrong casette all the time, and when I force to print from rear casette with paper, then you cannot even see the text printed, thats how bad quality it is. I know the printer works as it works from my Windows computer. Seriously how to fix? I have installed the printers official driver from Canon, cups-common
[19:05] <ncdd> Hey! Could somebody help me in routes? I am trying to get my eth1 to work. With this routing table I am able to ping via eth0 but not eth1 http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3037026
[19:06] <ncdd> I'm trying to make eth0 as "default", so thats why metric is 100
[19:06] <Ipzael> hello
[19:06] <altermann> my sources list says ubuntu 10.04, i'm guessing this system was upgraded to 12
[19:08] <dadsminecraft> yay gui firewall set-up and working
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> altermann, If the sources list says 10.04, what is your reasoning you are running 12.04?
[19:09] <dadsminecraft> firestarter is the bomb for us idiots
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> altermann  what's the out put of     cat /etc/issue ?
[19:12] <Enissay> After the update, chrome isnt displaying http://stackoverflow.com/ 's page anymore... (only blank pages, even the source code is there)
[19:12] <lapion> can anyone tell me what grub commands to use to boot with the root files system on a a partition with it volume in /@//
[19:13] <Enissay> anything to fix this ? or even how to roll back to an older version...
[19:13] <lapion> Enissay, Do other pages show ?
[19:13] <Enissay> lapion, yes
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> Enissay, any addons that may block?
[19:14] <lapion> Enissay, Do other pages show ??
[19:15] <lapion> Enissay, Sorry meant to say: Even after a shift-refresh ?
[19:15] <Enissay> lapion, yes, all my other tabs are loaded correctly...
[19:15] <Enissay> lapion, nothing changed with shift+F5
[19:16] <Enissay> btw it's Google Chrome 29.0.1547.65
[19:16] <lapion> I usually get pageload problems when my home directory fills up
[19:16] <Enissay> wilee-nilee, probably, but wich one, i've plenty xD
[19:16] <max_> #rails
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> Enissay, You have had it closed since the upgrade right? adblockers, flashblockers,cookie blockers.
[19:17] <lapion> look in: "chrome:plugins"
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> Enissay, Start it with the addons disabled to check if the problem is there.
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2010/02/google-chrome-safe-mode.html
[19:21] <Enissay> well, it's working in incognito mode... wich means some extension is causing this :/
[19:21] <reisio> chromium --user-data-dir=nonsenseHere probably works, too
[19:22] <reisio> unless you have a million extensions, it's probably going to be simplest to backup your profile dir and start a new one
[19:22] <reisio> copying data from the old into the new as desired
[19:22] <reisio> bits at a time, and then if the problem is re-introduced, you'll know by what
[19:25] <Benkinooby> hi, what do i have to do in 12.10 to use startx instead of a disktop manager? also, i still want to keep the managers in case i mess u with xstart
[19:26] <dry[1]> Hi. I'm working on Ubuntu. Java is working on browsers, but nowhere else (like Minecraft). How to fix it, plz?
[19:27] <Enissay> damn... I disabled like 10 extensions I dont use usally... and the website is working now... but still dont know wich one was causing this xD
[19:27] <Enissay> wilee-nilee, lapion, Thank you for your help guys <3
[19:28] <CarlFK> dry[1]: give details on "not working"
[19:28] <lapion> Enissay, try turning them on one by one until the problem occurs again..
[19:31] <dry[1]> CarlFK: All necessary details are here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2171255
[19:33] <trailblzr> Can anybody help me with a quick question for school? I've looked at textbooks and done some googling but I can't find the answer. I know there are two ways to change file permissions with chmod. Supposedly  there's a third and I can't find it anywhere. I know you can do chmod 777 filename or chmod a=rwx. Is there a thrird method.
[19:34] <Magicarp> I'm trying to mount a VDI image. I've got the offset and my cmd so far is  mount v.Vdi /mnt/ -o loop,offset=28672 but I need to pass the filesystem type
[19:34] <Enissay> lapion, I'll activate them when I need them, everytime I'll check the website to catch the one responsible xD
[19:34] <reisio> Magicarp: -t
[19:35] <CarlFK> dry[1]: looks like java is working, but minecraft is not.  (note: "looks like" is about all I got)
[19:35] <reisio> I wonder if minecraft requires oracle's jre over opendk
[19:36] <reisio> would be odd
[19:36] <reisio> but Java™ is odd :p
[19:36] <dry[1]> CarlFK: So what about Cheese, WebcamStudio...
[19:36] <Walex> trailblzr: not really....
[19:36] <Walex> trailblzr: you can *copy* permissions from a file to another, but it is not a really different way.
[19:37] <Walex> trailblzr: anyhow 'man chmod' will help...
[19:37] <Magicarp> reisio I've added -t ext4 to the end but it gives me wrong fs type even though it's defiantly ext4
[19:38] <Walex> Magicarp: adding options *to the end* is usually a rather bad idea copied unthinkily over from DOS.
[19:38] <reisio> Magicarp: what do you plan to do after mounting it?
[19:38] <reisio> Magicarp: why are you storing this data as a .vdi?
[19:38] <reisio> Walex: hrmm?
[19:39] <dadsminecraft> for what its worth I installed oracal jre on sons laptop and it works just fine
[19:39] <Walex> Magicarp: also probably the offset is wrong, else 'mount' would autodetect the type of fs.
[19:39] <reisio> dadsminecraft: same OS?
[19:40] <reisio> Magicarp: a compressed tarball is a good way to store a filesystem
[19:40] <reisio> Magicarp: a .vdi is not
[19:40] <Walex> reisio: the UNIX tradition is that options and arguments take effect strictly left-to-right., and while some programs allow you to do otherwise, many programs still do it left to right.
[19:40] <reisio> Walex: name two
[19:40] <dadsminecraft> sorry I failed to see he is on 12.04, I am on 13.04?
[19:41] <reisio> dadsminecraft: well I meant OS not version anyways :) so that's interesting
[19:41] <Walex> reisio: 'tar' and 'iptables' for example
[19:41] <reisio> dadsminecraft: maybe it really does need oracle's
[19:41] <CarlFK> dry[1]: "not working" ..
[19:41] <reisio> Walex: tar? I don't think so
[19:41] <whowhat> What archive formats include file lists? Does anybody know? I'm trying to use encrypted archives on a remote drive, and I'm using RAR format. However, when I try to list the files in the archive via "rar l archive.rar" I notice that my bandwidth spikes and an amount of data equivalent to the archive size is downloaded before the files are listed. I would like to be able to encrypt a file list that is included in the file container, is t
[19:41] <whowhat> his possible?
[19:41] <whowhat> my bad, I do "unrar l archive.rar"
[19:41] <Walex> whowhat: ZIP for example.
[19:42] <reisio> and I don't think iptables is a traditional Unix tool
[19:42] <reisio> so 2 times the wrong :)
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> insert rim shot here
[19:42] <Walex> reisio: consider the '-C' option of 'tar'...
[19:42] <reisio> Walex: what about the -C option
[19:42] <CarlFK> dry[1]: "blank screen" is sounding more like a video problem than a java problem
[19:42] <whowhat> Walex: ZIP I believe is a less-secure container
[19:43] <jhutchins> whowhat: No.
[19:44] <reisio> whowhat: 7z encrypts, too
[19:44] <reisio> whowhat: or you could just use encfs, ecryptfs
[19:44] <dadsminecraft> I am also planning on installing lubunutu on wifies netbook I'll see if it5 work there also, cant have too much MC after all
[19:44] <reisio> whowhat: or openssl
[19:44] <SupaYoshii> Hey guys, Im getting this error with a program: jpeglib.h: No such file or directory
[19:44] <Walex> reisio: also 'gcc' for example.
[19:44] <dry[1]> CarlFK: Cheese + WebcamStudio - not even opening with a message like "Try to reproduce the problem you are facing and 'Close' Cheese."
[19:44] <SupaYoshii> However i have the libpng-dev installed
[19:44] <whowhat> reisio: thanks, I'll look into the latter two options
[19:44] <Walex> reisio: most of the programs that don't use GNU GetOpt...
[19:44] <SupaYoshii> so i dont know
[19:44] <SupaYoshii> whats wrong =/
[19:45] <reisio> Walex: ignoring that gcc is also not a traditional Unix util, what is your example of strangely ordered params failing?
[19:46] <Walex> reisio: that except for GNU GetOpt option arguments apply only to the non-option arguments that follow it on the command line.
[19:46] <CarlFK> dry[1]: I would find a #minecraft support channel - i hear it is pretty popular :)
[19:46] <Pici> SupaYoshii: but libpng-dev doesn't provide jpeglib.h.... Try libjpeg62-dev or libjpeg-turbo8-dev instead.
[19:46] <reisio> Walex: as opposed to?
[19:48] <dry[1]> CarlFK: Another message: "Cheese crashed with SIGSEGV in cheese_camera_setup()". Is this some kind of hint?
[19:50] <CarlFK> dry[1]: kinda .. I am guessing *if* they are related, cheese is trying to display an image, so instead of black screen it errors
[19:51] <jhutchins> dry[1]: It is often helpful to launch GUI apps from the console so that you can see errors they are giving on stdout and stderr.
[19:51] <ace_me> I did added in aliases root : my@gmail.com but now I face in the test echo "Subject: test" | /usr/lib/sendmail -v my@gmail.com message does not meet IPv6 sending guidelines regarding PTR records
[19:52] <ace_me> and authentication. Please review
[19:53] <jhutchins> ace_me: that SAYS that your ipv6 DNS record doesn't meet your relaying restrictions, but I suspect that you should be using mailx instead of sendmail.
[19:54] <ace_me> where I should check jhattara
[19:54] <ace_me> where I should check jhutchins
[19:55] <dry[1]> jhutchins: "(cheese:12250): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkToggleButton, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkToggleButton can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkLabel"
[19:56] <arcsky> i got an ubuntu machine with 11.04 and want to get 13.04, ist possible to upgrade/install it over ssh?
[19:59] <Walex> arcsky: probably, unless you have installed non-Ubuntu packages that don't have 13.04 versions.
[19:59] <defaultro> is anyone here uses CLoudFormation in AWS?
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> arcsky  11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04 > 12.10 > 13.04     but not directly
[20:00] <reisio> defaultro: what if anyone were? :p
[20:00] <arcsky> MonkeyDust: oke
[20:01] <juniour> hey i am using hashlot to create a sha512 hash, wheni do the same with mkpasswd , the results different. cn anyone tell me y?/
[20:01] <defaultro> i was hoping he would be able to help me how to install ubuntu, apache, mysql
[20:01] <defaultro> using cloud formation templates
[20:01] <defaultro> like this, but this one uses yum - https://s3.amazonaws.com/cloudformation-templates-us-east-1/LAMP_Single_Instance.template
[20:01] <juniour> hey i am using hashalot to create a sha512 hash, wheni do the same with mkpasswd , the results different. cn anyone tell me y?/
[20:01] <reisio> defaultro: ##aws will probably do
[20:02] <ace_me> message does not meet IPv6 sending guidelines regarding PTR records - what should I check ?
[20:02] <defaultro> when I go to that channel, it says, it doesn't exist
[20:02] <reisio> ace_me: check whether what you wanted it to do actually didn't happen
[20:02] <reisio> defaultro: two #'s, welcome to freenode's silly
[20:02] <defaultro> oh, I used double #
[20:02] <defaultro> it' works
[20:02] <defaultro> thanks a lot!!! :D
[20:02] <reisio> yeah, don't ask, it will only make you hate humanity more
[20:03] <reisio> juniour: because they're different commands?
[20:03] <reisio> juniour: what makes you think they'd be the same? What makes you care?
[20:03] <reisio> juniour: what are you trying to do
[20:03] <defaultro> which tool is used when installing packages in Ubuntu?
[20:03] <antar> can anybody help me to solve this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6098599/
[20:04] <antar> i changed the envirnoment variable EDITOR to sublime
[20:04] <antar> thats for using the quickly edit using sublime editor
[20:04] <juniour> reisio different command but i am generating sha521 hash, it must be same
[20:04] <reisio> defaultro: apt-get or one of several frontends, software center, etc.
[20:04] <juniour> sorry sha512
[20:04] <antar> whenever i use it i get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6098599/
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> antar  better ask in #python
[20:05] <defaultro> thanks reisio
[20:05] <altermann> wilee-nilee: i'm running 12.04 because the OS was upgraded
[20:05] <antar> MonkeyDust, Really
[20:05] <kostkon> antar, is the sublime executable just 'sublime'?
[20:05] <MariusIT> i'm in a pickly here, for the paste 48 hours i've been trying to debug apt-get http://pastebin.com/iggqLssn currently i'm using just 2 repo's "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted" and "deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted" and still can't fix it.
[20:05] <defaultro> I'm wondering if this link I found will work with aws, I'll ask them - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[20:05] <altermann> i just renamed the source.list and created a new one with 12.04 repos
[20:05] <antar> kostkon, i used the tow the bin/subl and sublime
[20:05] <antar> the same error
[20:05] <MariusIT> The network works fine, can ping every repo out there, can access the packages from a browser, but can't get them to work with apt-get update
[20:06] <MariusIT> any ideeas?
[20:06] <reisio> antar: you used the full path?
[20:06] <antar> reisio, Yeah of course
[20:06] <TikkaMassala> hey guys whats the difference between Unity and Unity 2D? I run desktop with a good graphics card but Unity is working bad for me with windows flickering when moving etc. Unity 2D is working really smooth and i shure can use it but my understanding is that Unity have better effects but is more demanding, then i would like to use that if i can. I am running with the Recommended accelerated graphics driver for NVIDIA.
[20:06] <kostkon> antar, are you able to start it by giving sublime in the terminal
[20:06] <antar> /usr/bin/subl
[20:06] <ace_me> reisio I've setup aliases root to my gmail address and when I test I get : message does not meet IPv6 sending guidelines regarding PTR records - what should I check ?
[20:07] <reisio> TikkaMassala: they're the same visual appearance implemented in entirely different ways
[20:07] <antar> kostkon, Yeah it works just fine
[20:07] <ace_me> what setting  maybe reisio ?
[20:07] <kostkon> antar, try setting the env var to subl then
[20:07] <reisio> TikkaMassala: Unity is a compiz (window manager) plugin, and 2D is in Qt, IIRC
[20:07] <kostkon> antar, is it subl?
[20:07] <jhutchins> ace_me: /var/log/mail.log for one.
[20:07] <Ben64> MariusIT: try changing them to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[20:07] <antar> kostkon, exactly it is subl
[20:08] <kostkon> antar, ok
[20:08] <antar> kostkon, but why /usr/bin/subl not working ?
[20:08] <jhutchins> ace_me: Were did you get the syntax for sending mail?
[20:08] <TikkaMassala> reisio: So whats the explanation to Unity working badly for me and am i missing out on some cool features that i cant use in 2D?
[20:08] <kostkon> antar, no idea, maybe because it's not in /usr/bin
[20:08] <MariusIT> Ben64: same error, it's like it dosen't even reads the server data ...
[20:08] <antar> kostkon, the same error with subl
[20:08] <reisio> TikkaMassala: they're entirely different code bases, with different requirements and different bugs/etc.
[20:08] <jhutchins> ace_me: Very unlikely that it has anything to do with aliases.
[20:09] <antar> kostkon, i have been bast it as bin
[20:09] <reisio> TikkaMassala: about 90% of the accelerated features are just eye candy, very little of it is actually useful
[20:09] <antar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6098599/
[20:09] <Ben64> MariusIT: its a 404 error so something is wrong in your sources.list
[20:09] <antar> kostkon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6098599/ try to read that can help you
[20:09] <jhutchins> ace_me: Again, you should be using mailx: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4658283/shell-script-to-send-email
[20:09] <TikkaMassala> reisio: Ok, so they have the same visual appearence then? I like eye candy, btw.
[20:10] <reisio> TikkaMassala: for that matter you can use Xfce instead of GNOME/Unity/2D and configure it to have almost the same setup, with a panel on the left, only it'd be even lighter still
[20:10] <Ben64> MariusIT: or use this... http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[20:10] <reisio> TikkaMassala: yes... hence they share a name
[20:10] <MariusIT> Ben64: cat /etc/apt/sources.list http://pastebin.com/N3SX127q
[20:10] <defaultro> i found a very good link reisio which will be able to get me started, http://blog.engelke.com/2012/12/28/provisioning-a-server-with-cloudformation/
[20:10] <reisio> defaultro: gj
[20:10] <defaultro> :)
[20:10] <kostkon> antar, it means that popen cannot find the executable
[20:10] <MariusIT> Ben64: allready tryed that, multiple times, same result
[20:10] <antar> kostkon, the same error with nano
[20:11] <kostkon> antar, hmm
[20:11] <antar> kostkon, what do you think ?
[20:11] <altermann> any idea how i can fix this?
[20:11] <altermann> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6098322/
[20:12] <altermann> i've created a fresh source.list file but i'm still getting that error
[20:13] <kostkon> antar, try these suggestions here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/84878/how-to-change-quicklys-editor
[20:13] <antar> altermann, using apt-get ?
[20:13] <TikkaMassala> reisio: Thanks for the help. I am dualbooting Ubuntu and Mint XFCE on different SSDs just to try them out and settle for something. Something keeps me on the Ubuntu, i dont know why really i guess it feels safe
[20:13] <reisio> TikkaMassala: they're mostly the same ;)
[20:13] <antar> kostkon, read it not working
[20:13] <altermann> antar yes
[20:13] <reisio> and like i said, you can make Xfce look a lot like Unity
[20:14] <Ben64> MariusIT: try this one and pastebin the result of apt-get update after http://pastebin.com/LAb1ZNGP
[20:14] <antar> altermann, install the dependencies one by one
[20:14] <reisio> you can even use compiz with Xfce, the way Unity uses compiz with GNOME
[20:14] <altermann> antar:  are you asking if i've created the source.list using apt-get or if i get that error when i use apt-get?
[20:14] <boxmein> Hi
[20:14] <we6jbo> How do I find out what version of Ubuntu I'm running?
[20:14] <reisio> we6jbo: cat /etc/*release*
[20:15] <antar> altermann, i asked if you are using apt-get
[20:15] <reisio> boxmein: hi
[20:15] <kostkon> antar, you could try setting the editor with one of these methods: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55022/changing-default-editor  try them all
[20:15] <altermann> antar: yes i am using apt-get to install packages
[20:15] <boxmein> So next up in my world of mishaps, how would I turn my magical gnome-fallback's window frames transparent?
[20:15] <altermann> antar: all of those packages depend on libqtcore4 which fails to install no matter what i do
[20:15] <antar> altermann, so i think that you need to install this dependencies
[20:15] <TikkaMassala> reisio: Yes, but its mostly the default theme and the menu bar implemented on the panel that i like about Ubuntu, the launcher bar i could do without honestly. And i guess i like the search thingy menu, its something different
[20:16] <we6jbo> Thanks reisio
[20:16] <reisio> antar: if that doesn't work I bet #sublimetext would know what to do
[20:16] <MariusIT> Ben64: i tryed that before, just a huge error list http://pastebin.com/myaEhdjx p.s. u ro?
[20:16] <reisio> TikkaMassala: it's a decent enough approach to a desktop paradigm
[20:16] <antar> reisio, thatks
[20:17] <antar> thanks*
[20:17] <reisio> the people who don't like it mostly just don't like it _compared to_ what they already knew
[20:17] <reisio> not compared to nothing in particular
[20:17] <reisio> 2¢
[20:19] <Ben64> MariusIT: seems like a problem with either your internet or something weird in your ubuntu
[20:20] <altermann> antar: i don't know what you're referring to
[20:21] <altermann> there's one dependency for all packages, and that dep is libqtcore4 which fails to install
[20:21] <MariusIT> Ben64: i ruled our the internet acting wird, becouse if can browse the repo's from a different pc in the same lan, i'm betting on something wird
[20:22] <Ben64> MariusIT: try changing the repo to 2.ben64.com
[20:23] <Ben64> MariusIT: then i can see what url your computer is actually trying to access :)
[20:23] <altermann> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l - that's the output of cat /etc/issue
[20:23] <MariusIT> Ben64 http://2.ben64.com/ precise main restricted  ?
[20:23] <Ben64> MariusIT: yep
[20:23] <MariusIT> k
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> altermann  great, now let's look at your sources... pastebin     sudo apt-get update
[20:24] <MariusIT> Ben64: accessed, what's it saying?
[20:25] <MariusIT> Ben64: source 86.120.254.60
[20:25] <Ben64> MariusIT: um... no access at all
[20:25] <MariusIT> Ben64: o_O let me try again...
[20:26] <altermann> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6098695/
[20:26] <altermann> that's the output after i ran apt-get update
[20:26] <MariusIT> Ben64: ok, how about now?
[20:26] <Ben64> still nothing
[20:26] <MariusIT> Ben64: was a typo in it, should say something
[20:27] <Ben64> absolutely nothing from you
[20:28] <Ben64> i'd suggest using wireshark to find out, but i'm guessing you can't install it without apt-get working
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> altermann  and what was your initial question/issue?
[20:28] <root_> n
[20:28] <altermann> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6098322/
[20:29] <altermann> i can't install any software cause of the error seen in the line above
[20:30] <eyesman> hello?
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> altermann  yes, i see the infamous 'libstdc' in that list
[20:30] <dtcrshr> cowbacon: Actually on the vmware after I boot it goes straight to the login prompt, is there any other commands to call the repair mode beoore boot?
[20:31] <altermann> MonkeyDust: what about it?
[20:31] <T-Sourcemaker> can I configure procmail for logging to syslog?
[20:31] <pfraze> rkhunter worth it?
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> altermann  sorry, it's beyond me, i'm sure someone else can help better
[20:35] <altermann> thanks
[20:36] <arayaq> Hi. I have problems trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop with a external monitor only. The screen gets detected at start but soon the monitor goes off saying no signal.
[20:36] <arayaq> Has anyone experienced and solved something similar?
[20:38] <wylde> arayaq: Have you tried the laptop's hardware buttons for switching to external display only?
[20:38] <arayaq> wylde: Yes, I have tried. Also tried nomodeset and nothing happens
[20:39] <an3k> hi all
[20:39] <an3k> how can I check for what reason ubuntu 13.04 cannot go into suspend/hibernate on this notebook?
[20:41] <altermann> i'm getting another issue after following an online guide but not removing and actually reinstalling my packages, the error is:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6098740/
[20:42] <wylde> arayaq: Alrighty. Just thougt I'd put that out there. Had to do that with an old laptop using an external display only once.
[20:42] <kostkon> an3k, try to suspend/hibernate and right after check your logs if that is possible
[20:43] <arayaq> wylde: Thank you anyway :)
[20:43] <an3k> kostkon: i cannot even try because the menu entry is grayed out
[20:43] <kostkon> an3k, hibernate is disabled by default in ubuntu anyway. you should have an option to suspend though
[20:44] <jhutchins> an3k: What notebook?  How old?
[20:44] <an3k> well, german lang and for us hibernate is the same as suspend
[20:44] <an3k> standby is possible without problems
[20:44] <kostkon> an3k, stanby = suspend
[20:44] <an3k> jhutchins: DELL Inspiron 630m, around 6 or 8 years
[20:44] <jhutchins> an3k: swap >= 1x RAM?
[20:44] <an3k> kostkon: oh :)
[20:45] <an3k> jhutchins: RAM & swap = 2 GB
[20:45] <jhutchins> an3k: It's possible the BIOS doesn't support it.
[20:45] <an3k> well, it worked on windows 7 so i gess it supports it :)
[20:46] <jhutchins> an3k: Not necessarily.  Manufactureres cheat in Windows.
[20:46] <kostkon> an3k, and if the option is greyed out as you say, it shouldn't be there at all actually if you are in vanilla ubuntu, then you might need to enable it first
[20:46] <jhutchins> an3k: My recommendation would be to play with the suspend commands in the console and see what it says.
[20:46] <hitman> hola
[20:47] <an3k> kostkon: i checked "enable hibernate" somewhere in the settings
[20:47] <an3k> jhutchins: shutdown?
[20:47] <delinquentme> I left $ sudo apt-get upgrade running overnight ... how can I check to see if the process is still upgrading?  I'm guessing something in $ top ?
[20:48] <an3k> until now i only used console to shutdown or reboot :)
[20:48] <gordonjcp> delinquentme: can't you just look at the terminal to see what it's doing?
[20:48] <dyim_> deliquentme.. next time you do that, use screen
[20:48] <an3k> delinquentme: ps aux | grep apt-get
[20:49] <dyim_> like this $ screen apt-get upgrade
[20:49] <an3k> nah
[20:49] <an3k> screen -dmS aptgrade ./mycommand
[20:49] <an3k> that will auto put it in the background and give it the name aptgrade
[20:50] <an3k> if you wanna see it screen -r aptgrade. To detach Ctrl+A + Ctrl+D
[20:52] <an3k> jhutchins: I have a suspend binary here but no hibernate. Do I have to install a package? :)
[20:56] <kostkon> an3k, http://www.howtogeek.com/113923/how-to-re-enable-hibernate-in-ubuntu-12.04/
[20:56] <an3k> thx
[20:56] <dadsminecraft> ok I am trying to run a remote desktop of xubuntu on my windows machine, all the ssh and xterm and bash is working, what is the command for the desktop?
[20:57] <kostkon> an3k, if it hibernates succeesfuly from windows, it should hibernate fine from ubuntu as well
[20:58] <dadsminecraft> oh and If I open the file browser thunar It seems I can see directories and files that I dont think I should be able to see with that account, what do I need to do to restrict acess?
[20:58] <an3k> ok, im going to test it, brb ... hopefully :)
[20:59] <kostkon> an3k, good luck...
[20:59] <DarthEaron> Okay so im trying to use empathy with facebook on raring 13.04 and it givies me facebook acount requires authorization...ive done alot of research to no anvil...one sight said that it was because of telepathy-gabble and something about a Disco, claming that a bata version fixed the issue but it has not. has anyone ran across this before me?
[21:00] <wylde> dadsminecraft: you'll probably need cygwin to run a local xserver if you're looking to run a remote desktop session tunneled through ssh. Easier to use vnc no?
[21:00] <nate7829> dadsminecraft, are you speaking of sshfs? and to restrict access to files/folders, you can use chmod and chown
[21:00] <OerHeks> DarthEaron, open facebook in your webbrowser, there may be an option in your account to grand access if i recall correctly
[21:01] <gordonjcp> dadsminecraft: if you're doing remote desktop stuff look into using VNC
[21:01] <gordonjcp> dadsminecraft: but remote desktop doesn't really work very well on any system
[21:02] <gordonjcp> dadsminecraft: what are you trying to do?
[21:02] <DarthEaron> OerHeks: tried all of that, so far as to delete the security exception in facebook so i get asked to allow it again. nothing seems to work
[21:03] <dadsminecraft> ok what I am trying to do is set up a minecraft server on my spare computer, and allow some one to be able to remote administer it, plain and simple right?
[21:04] <wylde> dadsminecraft: you can do that right through ssh on the commandline. A minecraft server on linux has no gui anyway :)
[21:04] <kostkon> an3k, was it a succcess
[21:04] <dadsminecraft> and I really dont need remote desktop, I got the cygwin set up on my windows machine more for testing
[21:06] <DarthEaron> could anyone point me to an empathy or telepathy-gabble related channel?
[21:06] <an3k> kostkon: nope. first it takes much longer than shutting down and starting up again and secondly it doesn't read thre swap into ram at all. maybe because encrypted filesystem
[21:06] <kostkon> an3k, oh you didnt mention that. could be yeash
[21:06] <dadsminecraft> ok I got that it can be done in ssh alone, but as a newb and trying to understand what I am setting up, in testing I cant even say list directiories or mk directiories, I am totaly lost
[21:07] <kostkon> an3k, but hibernate is slow anyways compared to suspend
[21:07] <an3k> yes, my fault, sry. For me encryption is per default since the NSA stuff :)
[21:07] <kostkon> an3k, right :P
[21:08] <wylde> dadsminecraft: ls <--- list directories in the current directory
[21:08] <kostkon> an3k, then you need to research it a little bit or just forget about it.
[21:08] <an3k> thats true but i was looking for no energy draw. didn't knew hibernate is so much slower on linux than on windows. thanks to a ssd its very fast to boot ubuntu here ... on this Pentium M 1,73 GHz SingleCore without HT and 2 GB RAM :D
[21:08] <wylde> dadsminecraft: "ls --help" for a short list of options or "man ls" for the manpage :)
[21:10] <kostkon> an3k, generally it shouldn't be. but in your case it is yes.
[21:10] <nate7829> dadsminecraft, if you're coming from windows, dir = ls, copy = cp, del = rm, rmdir = rm -r, and your best command is apropos; ie: apropos copy will give you all commands with copy in them
[21:12] <dadsminecraft> ok ok so when I do ls I get nothing, does that meen that account has no directories available?
[21:12] <nate7829> try ls -a
[21:13] <nate7829> you should at least see . and .. (. for current dir, .. for previous directory)
[21:13] <Chauchite> Hello! First time here :)
[21:14] <dadsminecraft> aw wtf, yes the -a option shows stuff, lol I had been thinking I was like using wrond commans for last hour
[21:14] <nate7829> yeah, gotta read the man pages :)
[21:14] <jhutchins> dadsminecraft: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxcommand.org/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/05/20/terminal1.html http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~kevin/unix-tutorial/toc.html
[21:15] <nate7829> or if nothing else google something like "ls command tutorial" if you need it broken down for you - most commands have tutorial pages on the net
[21:15] <jhutchins> dadsminecraft: Files beginning with . are hidden from the regular ls command.
[21:15] <jhutchins> dadsminecraft: Also by default in most file managers.
[21:15] <miguel_01> Alguien que hable español?, o algun canal donde pueda hacer consultas para instalacion de fedora?
[21:16] <jhutchins> !es
[21:16] <miguel_01> gracias!
[21:16] <miguel_01> !es
[21:17] <Csabi33669> hi,i want to set up my default file browser back to pc man,so my problem is example when i click on dropxbux submenu "open dropbox location" it will open in the firefox. so can anybody tell me what should i change in /usr/share/application=defaults.list?
[21:17] <dadsminecraft> thanks for putting up wit my retarded windows arse, I'll keep reading and be back for the sql help I am sure
[21:17] <nate7829> good luck, dadsminecraft
[21:18] <dadsminecraft> Good luck I have come to find is not as good as good help and instruction
[21:18] <Csabi33669> im using lubuntu 12.04
[21:18] <nate7829> dadsminecraft, yes true
[21:18] <dadsminecraft> at the same time I'd rather be lucky than good any day
[21:19] <dadsminecraft> thanks again guys
[21:19] <nate7829> you're welcome dadsminecraft
[21:23] <whowhat> Trying to make a script that reads from lines after the script invocation, i.e. "./myscript.sh hello world" can perform operations on "hello" and "world". I'm having trouble locating the way to do this in the bash manpage
[21:24] <nate7829> whowhat, you mean being able to read arguments on the command line?
[21:25] <an3k> ok, where to disable the hibernate menu entry? can't find it anymore :(
[21:25] <whowhat> nate7829: I think that's what I mean.
[21:25] <wylde> whowhat: I bet they know over in #bash :) and you could try using the variables $1 $2 etc etc
[21:26] <whowhat> wylde thanks!!!!
[21:26] <wylde> whowhat: np :)
[21:26] <an3k> whowhat: $0 is the filename of your script $1 is the first appended text, etc.
[21:27] <whowhat> an3k: amazing that did it!
[21:27] <nate7829> whowhat, also you can capture all arguments using $@
[21:28] <whowhat> nate7829 very cool!
[21:28] <wylde> whowhat: good bash resource --> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[21:28] <whowhat> wylde: thanks, I'll look into it
[21:29] <Csabi33669> hi,i want to set up my default file browser back to pc man,so my problem is example when i click on dropbox menu "open dropbox location" it will open in the firefox. so can anybody tell me what should i change in /usr/share/application=defaults.list?
[21:29] <an3k> while you would be screwed when you only have a windows notebook with you on a unknown island you can feel happy if its linux
[21:29] <an3k> pipe on windows. NOPE
[21:29] <wylde> whowhat: if you're looking to parse commandline options you'll want to look into "case" as well
[21:30] <an3k> quickly scripting something together. not on windows. well, its available but you have to manually install it
[21:30] <nate7829> an3k, i actually put ubuntu 12.04 lts on my wife's windows 7 netbook haha  and ubuntu works, but the nic sucks, had to setup network manager as a static ip
[21:30] <an3k> whowhat: if so check out a start-stop-script of eg. teamspeak 3 server. there you get an idea how case works
[21:30] <OerHeks> Csabi33669, open system sttings >  Details >  Default applications and change it there ?
[21:31] <OerHeks> oh i see no filebrowser option, weird
[21:31] <an3k> nate7829: had win7 on this one and the NB never got even warm. crappy gfx because crappy gfx card. system was ok. now with 13.04 its getting warm and sometimes hot (heavy load). additionally i have nice fancy gfx effects like blur ;) and the best thing at all: LINUX
[21:32] <wylde> Csabi33669: they may have a better idea in #lubuntu
[21:32] <nate7829> Csabi33669, you need to modify xdg-open, standby, i'll google
[21:32] <Csabi33669> OerHeks, im using lubuntu 12.04
[21:35] <Csabi33669> wylde, ok
[21:35] <nate7829> Csabi33669, see this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1900454
[21:36] <nate7829> Csabi33669, I believe that will fix your issue
[21:37] <Csabi33669> nate7829, i hope it too :)
[21:37] <nate7829> an3k, win7 on her NB makes it get really warm, windows takes forever to do anything, but 12.04 LTS flies. only the NIC support is a bit lacking, but overall it works pretty darn well
[21:37] <Csabi33669> nate7829, and thank you,
[21:37] <nate7829> Csabi33669, you're welcome ;)
[21:39] <an3k> nate7829: here everything works fine. except the wifi indicator led which is only on after first suspend but all font short buttons (volume, play, prev, next & media) are recognized by ubuntu. windows only understood volume
[21:39] <an3k> no need to use the touchpad, cause the onscreen menus to popup and cause a lag ^^
[21:40] <nate7829> an3k, which model number do you have?  I believe hers is a ASUS SeaShell series NB
[21:41] <an3k> i even can play counter-strike on here. wasn't possible with win7 bcause it said i have no 3D card.
[21:41] <Franatic89> hey
[21:41] <an3k> DELL Inspiron 630m ^
[21:41] <nate7829> ah yeah, Dell is much more supported than ASUS currently, I think
[21:41] <nate7829> hi Franatic89
[21:41] <Franatic89> i have avant window navigator
[21:42] <WorkerBuzz> Anybody else notice that slashdot removed top comments from their RSS feed?  What's up with that?
[21:42] <Franatic89> and i changed the icons but there are also small icons in the icon how can i get them away?
[21:42] <nate7829> Franatic89, sorry, i don't know anything about avant window navigator
[21:42] <Franatic89> hmm
[21:42] <Franatic89> someone here know something about it?
[21:43] <nate7829> Franatic89, are you using ubuntu?
[21:43] <Franatic89> yes
[21:43] <nate7829> Franatic89, what version?
[21:44] <Franatic89> 12.04
[21:44] <nate7829> Franatic89, so you're using nautilus as your file manager?
[21:44] <Franatic89> think so
[21:47] <eimis> !tab
[21:48] <nate7829> Franatic89, i can't find much information on avant window navigator, but i found the main ubuntu documentation page here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AvantWindowNavigator#Configuring_AWN
[21:48] <nate7829> Franatic89, maybe that will help you
[21:49] <Franatic89> oh i will try, thanks!
[21:49] <nate7829> Franatic89, probably if you uninstall the repo version and install from PPA, the issue will be resolved
[21:49] <nate7829> Franatic89, no problem, good luck
[21:50] <eimis> zykotick9: testing
[22:02] <chsados> hey guys, just switched from windows - I am looking for a nice GUI GPG package similar to GPG4Win - any suggestions?
[22:02] <chsados> also what IRC client you all using?
[22:02] <niel> guys I have really broken java and all my dev environments are pissed please help http://askubuntu.com/questions/344859/my-java-is-messed-up-cannot-install-anything-or-its-dependencies-ubuntu-13-04
[22:02] <niel> like I am so lost right now been trying to fix for hours
[22:02] <Luyin> chsados: hexchat
[22:02] <chsados> ill check that out - have you tried irssi?
[22:03] <niel> here is the log http://pastebin.com/3SySD9z1
[22:03] <nate7829> chsados, xchat is a good GUI client in linux for IRC
[22:03] <niel> it is
[22:03] <chsados> oh nice hexchat is based off xchat?  thats what i was using on windows
[22:03] <Luyin> chsados: yeah, but I use it only in the rare case of X being broken. hasn't happened for a while, so I don't use it ;)
[22:03] <sircutz>  I wish to use bash or command shell for precision to change and search files on a usb. Computer has mounted and files are there in file manager but i want to do it manually. Any options?
[22:03] <Luyin> btw, hexchat is xchat-based. so far I couldn't find any great differences.
[22:04] <chsados> yea i think hexchat is what ill be going with
[22:04] <niel> anyone know where to get java help I can do anything with java right now its broken
[22:04] <sircutz> I just have problems navigating the files in bash!
[22:04] <Luyin> sircutz: cd, mv, cp, rm, mkdir, rmdir you might want to look at
[22:04] <chsados> #java or try www.bitcoin.com/r/java niel
[22:04] <chsados> www.reddit.com/r/java sorry lol
[22:04] <Luyin> sircutz: find might be useful too
[22:04] <UserError> chsados , practically the same thing
[22:05] <sircutz> Okay Luyin , what tells me a king of list or map of everything ? I thought it was du , did only tell me the current directry?
[22:05] <nate7829> chsados, i've used irssi, and it's a solid client for the terminal, especially if you use it in conjunction with screen
[22:05] <sircutz> Then I have a target to shoot for.
[22:05] <chsados> eh id like to stay away from terminal
[22:05] <Luyin> sircutz: tried ls ?
[22:05] <Luyin> chsados: bad decision :(
[22:05] <nate7829> chsados, yeah, i'd go with xchat then imo
[22:06] <chsados> hehe hey now, im just getting my feet wet with linux
[22:06] <sircutz> Yes , again I am stuck at the current working directory like pwd.  I do not know at this point, but remember one that shoed everyting on the computer?
[22:06] <chsados> its always been a secondary OS i occasionally use - finally said byebye windows
[22:06] <nate7829> chsados, a leap of faith that will payoff ;)
[22:06] <Luyin> chsados: then plunge yourself into the terminal, no better way to get to know your new OS than that :)
[22:07] <chsados> one more suggestion - what about a torrent client besides deluge - need really good rss implementation
[22:07] <sircutz> right now I am at root@partedmagic:/dev#
[22:07] <sircutz> ls
[22:07] <nate7829> chsados, i'd recommend transmission, it's in ubuntu by default
[22:07] <chsados> ill check that out - i have seen it on roomates mac and always thought older version of utorrent were superior
[22:08] <nate7829> chsados, also, i know you're looking for a GUI encryption program, but if you look at some tutorials using openssl, it's really easy and a good way to get your feet wet with the terminal and encryption
[22:08] <chsados> ill make note nate7829 thx
[22:08] <nate7829> chsados, np
[22:08] <chsados> well here i go, last time ill be using windows
[22:08] <chsados> cya!
[22:09] <sircutz> i found the problem. /media was it .
[22:09] <sircutz> ls -l
[22:09] <niel> I think ubuntu needs  a reinstall this sucks
[22:10] <nate7829> niel, most problems can be fixed if you run ubuntu in live mode from a CD/DVD
[22:10] <niel> no this is bad
[22:11] <niel> java is pissed
[22:11] <niel> http://pastebin.com/3SySD9z1
[22:11] <niel> just look
[22:12] <nate7829> niel, have you tried apt-get -f ?
[22:13] <niel> nate7829, ive done everything
[22:14] <dtcrshr> hello everyone! im on ubuntu 10.04 lts, when I go lspci I have an Intel Corporation gigabit ethernet controller, and on /etc/network/interfaces iv manually setup an eth0
[22:15] <dtcrshr> but ifup eth0 gives me an error eth0: error while getting interface flags, no such device
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> dtcrshr:  what does 'ifconfig' say about the network card
[22:16] <l3d> need help getting wifi working
[22:16] <trism> niel: what is: apt-cache policy tzdata;
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> !wifi
[22:16] <nate7829> niel, look at this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=797123
[22:16] <nate7829> niel, it looks like they had a lot of the same error messages you were getting
[22:17] <dtcrshr> nothing, i got only lo on ifconfig
[22:17] <eimis> Hi. I'm runnin ubuntu base + xfce4-goodies and some other small stuff. Is there a convenient way to select default pulseaudio device besides doing pacmd set-default-sink xxxxxxxx?
[22:17] <dtcrshr> but lshw -C network gives me network DISABLED
[22:17] <dtcrshr> Dr_Willis:
[22:17] <dsprc> anyone got a clue how to resolve these init/upstart permission errors? can not install sshd because of it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6057140/
[22:17] <trism> niel: my guess is you disabled -updates
[22:17] <niel> hmm
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> dtcrshr:  sounds to me like whatever module is needed for that card has not been loaded. Is this a wifi card or a wireless card?
[22:17] <niel> I did something
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> or wired. ;)
[22:18] <dtcrshr> Dr_Willis: its the virtual ethernet card of vmware
[22:18] <niel> what is Synaptic
[22:18] <niel> ?
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> dtcrshr:  vmware has settings for differnt types of network cards for the system to 'have'  (i may be thinking of vbox). see what NIC the vm is set to use and try some of the others perhaps
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> !info synaptic
[22:19] <dtcrshr> it has only one
[22:19] <dtcrshr> the vmware nic
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> niel:  the old standby Packagte manager gui.
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> dtcrshr:  no idea then. i basicallyu only use vbox these days.
[22:19] <niel> huh?
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> !vmware
[22:19] <trism> niel: I wuld check software-properties-gtk before you do anything and make sure -updates is enabled (Recommended Updates) on the Updates tab
[22:19] <nate7829> niel, typing apt-get -f in a terminal will fix broken packages as well
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> niel:  run it and you will see.
[22:19] <dtcrshr> Dr_Willis: yeah, on my machine I use vbox, but this vmware its a vmsphere on a huge dell 2950 server with a bunch of other vms
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> dtcrshr:  Might be worth asking in #vmware
[22:20] <dtcrshr> I mostly dont use ubuntu for production, but its a costumer ubuntu machine were allocating here temporarily
[22:20] <dtcrshr> vmware works fine... all the other oses have no trouble. I have 3 debian, 2 centos and a freebsd machine on this server with no hassle
[22:20] <nate7829> niel, synaptic is the package manager, to open, type synaptic into the search box in unity (if you're running the unity DE)
[22:21] <dtcrshr> is there a way to set up the disabled to enabled as I saw on lshw ?
[22:21] <nate7829> niel, if you're running gnome or something else, look under administration
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> dtcrshr:  you did install the vmware guest addations? i think vmware has those like vbox does
[22:22] <l3d> I cant seem to get my wifi drivers installed
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> synaptic has to be installed now
[22:22] <l3d>  Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driver
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> !broadcom
[22:23] <dtcrshr> Dr_Willis: I saw the error, I consulted eth0 on /var/log/dmesg ans saw a line that it was renamed from eth0 to eth1
[22:23] <dtcrshr> changed on my /etc/network/interfaces file and im up now
[22:23] <dtcrshr> thanks for the attention anyhow
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> dtcrshr:   ;)  gotta love it
[22:23] <niel> nate7829, no such thing as synaptic
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> dtcrshr:  theres some networking file that would let you rename it back to eth0 i recall
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> niel:  synaptic is not installed by default any more.
[22:24] <dtcrshr> Dr_Willis: nah, its fine now. Ill just dump over the sql dbs and the www folder and assemble a new server
[22:24] <niel> oh never mind installing
[22:24] <trism> synaptic isn't going to help anything
[22:25] <niel> got synaptic
[22:25] <niel> now what?
[22:25] <nate7829> niel, follow instructions to fix broken packages
[22:26] <SN3> hi, I would like to setup a private cloud on a single computer for testing applications. Is this possible with UBuntu?
[22:26] <nate7829> niel, refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[22:26] <niel> well I clicked it lets see if this works
[22:27] <niel> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[22:27] <valeriy> Hi everyone. I need to open network files with the gtkfilechooser, however network folder do not appear in that dialog. I once new the workaround by adding ~/.gvfs folder in favorites, but with new installation there is no .gvfs folder although I can open sambashared file. Can anyone give a clue how to return this .gvfs folder?
[22:28] <nate7829> niel, a held package means that a "hold" has been placed on a package, meaning it can't be updated, did you modify your sources.list file?
[22:28] <niel> never
[22:28] <nate7829> niel, did you add additional repositories at all?
[22:29] <niel> I think like steam and such
[22:29] <trism> niel: okay now that that is over, can you please either pastebin: apt-cache policy tzdata; or check software-properties-gtk to see if -updates is enabled on the Updates tab?
[22:30] <dsprc> anyone got a clue how to resolve these init/upstart permission errors? i dont even know where to start and can not install sshd because of them: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6057140/
[22:31] <javier_> Hi all! Yesterday I did something wrong in ubuntu's terminal trying to fix the install of a packet and, when I noticed, I had installed a bunch of important packets. I noticed because I was missing things like terminal or ubuntu software center. I install all that stuff, but obviously, it was worst than that and it won't boot now. When I try to start it, says it goes to low-graphic mode, but it won't enter in that mode neither. I have no back up in deja vu
[22:31] <javier_> (it takes always forever to make it an a lot of space). I now I'm a mess, but, someone can think about a way to fix it back? Thanks!!!
[22:32] <niel> ok updated on
[22:32] <niel> the tjzdata thing is still broken
[22:33] <trism> niel: was the box already checked?
[22:33] <niel> no
[22:33] <trism> niel: if not you need to run: sudo apt-get update; afterwards to refresh the cache
[22:34]  * niel hugs trism 
[22:34] <bytecounter> dsprc: does the same happen with apt-get?
[22:35] <nate7829> javier_, have you tried booting in recovery mode from grub?
[22:35] <bytecounter> javier_: since your system does not want to boot in low grapic mode you have 2 options: 1) use single user mode 2) get a live cd, and the chroot into your system
[22:36] <dsprc> bytecounter: yup. doing the whole dpkg reconfig dance fails as well
[22:36] <bytecounter> nate7829: is recovery mode the same thing as single user mode? just curious?
[22:36] <javier_> nate7829, I've tried that and it doesn't work
[22:36] <javier_> (doesnt boot)
[22:37] <bytecounter> dsprc: ls -al /lib/init/upstart-job
[22:37] <javier_> bytecounter, thanks, I would like to explore that... but, could you give me a short explanatino on what consist both of them?
[22:37] <nate7829> bytecounter, I don't think so, I believe it runs with switches like noaspci and other stuff that allows it to boot with config issues
[22:38] <dsprc> bytecounter: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
[22:38] <nate7829> javier_, i'd follow bytecounter's advice then and run a live cd, and google how to chroot (change root) from the CD into your HD so the commands you type will affect the installation of ubuntu on your HD instead of the CD you're booting from
[22:39] <nate7829> anyone know if the live cd has a repair feature in it?
[22:39] <bytecounter> javier_: see what nate7829 said: bausically, single user mode and recovery mode are two "emergency" modes. google how to start them. try recovery mode first. then single user (since it gives you lots of power - to either fix your system or destroy it even more). the "chroot" way is more advanced and last resort.
[22:39] <nate7829> i don't know if it does or not, i seem to recall something about it
[22:40] <nate7829> javier_, take a look at this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:40] <wylde> javier_: you can boot and log into a tty though? ( ctrl+F2 to switch to tty2). As a last resort you could attempt this http://www.kingletas.com/2012/07/restore-ubuntu-to-the-default-settings-without-re-installing-it.html but make a backup first!
[22:40] <javier_> bytecounter, nate7829 , thanks, I'll try those things :)
[22:41] <nate7829> javier_, np good luck
[22:41] <dsprc> bytecounter: did 'chmod +x' on it. seems to be ok for now. thanks!
[22:41] <javier_> nate7829, ah, I've used boot-repair before :) But rather to fix grub. The problem seems now with the display manager
[22:41] <nate7829> javier_, hmm what did you do to break it?
[22:42] <javier_> nate7829, yes, that's it. I meant an error that says display-manager can't start
[22:42] <wylde> javier_: you may have removed/damaged your display drivers.
[22:43] <javier_> wylde, yes, that's it, said something that couldn't find the graphic driver neither
[22:43] <bytecounter> dsprc: dsprc :) i was just trying to find out wich one needed what rights
[22:43] <javier_> guess that's why I see the message in low graphic mode
[22:43] <nate7829> javier_, what type of computer are you using?
[22:43] <javier_> but I can't get it to start in low graphic mode anyway
[22:43] <bytecounter> dsprc: since this seems to be the main cause: /etc/init.d/ssh: 33: exec: /lib/init/upstart-job: Permission denied
[22:44] <javier_> nate7829, I'm in a laptop, ACER aspire without any special graphic card that uses no aditional drivers (no ATI no nVIDIA, just Intel)
[22:44] <wylde> javier_: you can swith to a tty like I said to access the commandline. Look into jockey-text to fix your display drivers perhaps?
[22:44] <bytecounter> !recover
[22:44] <bytecounter> !recoverymode
[22:44] <wylde> javier_: ohhhh...nvm jockey then. :/
[22:45] <bytecounter> javier_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[22:45] <Ari-Yang> javier_, if you just see intel... then that's all that's available for you :| what do you get when you type this in terminal? lspci | grep VGA
[22:45] <javier_> wylde, nate7829 what do you mean jockey text?
[22:46] <daftykins> jockey is the additional drivers program, but since you say intel, jockey won't be of any use
[22:46] <wylde> javier_: it the commanline version of "Additional Drivers" (jockey-gtk etc.)
[22:46] <javier_> Ari-Yang, oh, I'm in a different laptop, I haven't been able to boot mine, but I might enter in tty mode to check it
[22:46] <javier_> ah, no, then there is nothing special about jockey then. But I guess that should make it easier
[22:47] <bytecounter> javier_: do you know what you did yesterday?
[22:47] <bytecounter> javier_: what did you do? which files did you edit/remove/create?
[22:48] <nate7829> javier_, type sudo lspci | grep -i graphics into a terminal and note the type of hardware for your display driver (you either have to be on the computer in question or be able to connect to it via ssh)
[22:49] <javier_> bytecounter, yes, and I'm surprised. A packet (a video player) didn't install properly. Then I runned the command "sudo apt-get install -f", to fix it. Someone, it told me he was going to uninstall a bunch of packet and I had already pressed "yes" without paying attention. Was totally my fault for too much confidence. Then, everything was uninstalled
[22:50] <daftykins> javier_: can you type the commands here that you ran then?
[22:50] <bytecounter> javier_: hm, as far is i know you can get some kind of list of the packages your removed - i am sure ther is an aptlog that tells yu what you remove
[22:50] <daftykins> just taking his history would be interesting too
[22:51] <javier_> bytecounter, that's interesting, I could just reinstall all those
[22:51] <bytecounter> javier_: your history is stored in ~/.bash_history
[22:51] <javier_> I see
[22:51] <bytecounter> javier_: that's waht i want to suggest - as i understood, your system worked before, so you just want to go back to the previous state
[22:51] <javier_> bytecounter, so, maybe, enter the hard drive using a boot cd, then use chroot to reinstall what is written there?
[22:52] <javier_> bytecounter, yes, that's it
[22:52] <bytecounter> the best thing to do that is to find the packets you removed and to reinstall them
[22:52] <nate7829> javier_, you can also type sudo dpkg --get-selections to see a list of packages that are installed and de-installed
[22:52] <bytecounter> nate7829: well, he needs to find out which ones he removed
[22:53] <bytecounter> javier_: um, how far can you boot?
[22:53] <nate7829> /var/log/apt/history.log can be accessed for that
[22:53] <bytecounter> javier_: did you try a virtual terminal? ctrl+alt+f for example
[22:53] <javier_> bytecounter, i think I might be able to enter tty
[22:53] <bytecounter> javier_: if you can enter tty then there is no need for live cds and chroot and all that
[22:54] <javier_> bytecounter, I remember there was an option to enter in terminal, which I didn't used because I wouldn't know what to do
[22:54] <javier_> but I could try to enter there and eventually try what we are talking
[22:54] <javier_> bytecounter, yes, I thought that, that would be great
[22:54] <javier_> bytecounter, so, I will try that
[22:54] <javier_> see what's in bash_history and try to reinstall things
[22:55] <javier_> bytecounter, nate7829 I'm also thinking, what I uninstalled must be something basic everyone must have, and I wonder if there is some command to fix or repair this kind of things, like, basics
[22:55] <SN3> damn, Juju is magic!
[22:56] <bytecounter> javier_: if you had removed something basic, your system would not boot at all
[22:56] <javier_> bytecounter, you are right, not basic maybe
[22:57] <wylde> javier_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core then
[22:57] <wylde> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg perhaps?
[22:57] <bytecounter> javier_: the computer you broke, is it connected to internet?
[22:57] <nate7829> javier_, take a look at /var/log/apt/ directory as well; just because you typed something on the command line, doesn't mean that is the only thing that was installed/uninstalled - but the log file for apt will have a history of any other dependencies that were removed automatically
[22:57] <javier_> bytecounter, oh, that could be a problem. I don't know, I have to try. If I also uninstalled accidentally something more and can't connect, I will have to try the livecd way
[22:58] <bytecounter> javier_: is the computer you broke a laptop or a desktop computer?
[22:59] <bytecounter> javier_: usually, do you use wireless or cable to connect it to the internet?
[23:00] <javier_> bytecounter, nate7829 I think what I should do is to see what I find in those directories, see if there is internet and try to reinstall what I find (hopefully). Otherwise, I will tell you what else if you are still here or google it a bit more with the new I know now. Sounds right? And thanks for your help :)
[23:00] <nate7829> javier_, most times you can connect to the internet via the terminal if you plug your computer directly into a modem/router and use sudo dhcpcd [network interface] ie: sudo dhcpcd eth0
[23:00] <nate7829> after bringing it "up" using sudo ifconfig eth0 up that is
[23:01] <javier_> nate7829, oh, that's very useful. Might use it...
[23:01] <nate7829> anyways i gotta get running
[23:01] <bytecounter> javier_: i'll go to bed now anyway... i think nate7829 and wylde are taking good care of you :) - good luck
[23:01] <javier_> nate7829, sure, thanks for your help
[23:01] <nate7829> you're in good hands with bytecounter, javier_
[23:01] <bytecounter> ahaha
[23:01] <javier_> bytecounter, nate7829 hahahahha
[23:01] <nate7829> lol
[23:02] <javier_> nate7829, bytecounter I undestand, don't worry and appreciate your help
[23:02] <nate7829> ok javier_ good luck
[23:02] <javier_> thanks
[23:02] <nate7829> bye bytecounter, javier_
[23:02] <nate7829> you're welcome
[23:02] <bytecounter> nate7829: bye
[23:08] <danielcg> Is this channel for all *buntu distros or /only/ Ubuntu?
[23:09] <OerHeks> hi danielcg, Ubuntu only, no derivates.
[23:09] <danielcg> Ok, thank you
[23:10] <OerHeks> most derivates have a channel here on #freenode too.
[23:10] <reisio> danielcg: only "official" Ubuntu distros
[23:10] <reisio> which is like three or four or five
[23:11] <reisio> Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu
[23:11] <reisio> Kylin, although I doubt many will want english support for Kylin
[23:12] <reisio> danielcg: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[23:12] <reisio> I missed Ubuntu Studio, Mythbuntu, and apparently there's an Ubuntu GNOME
[23:13] <MACscr> hmm, why is my ubuntu server trying to resolve my hostname every time i use the sudo command?
[23:13] <tgm4883> OerHeks, 'Flavors'
[23:14] <artcurmudgeon> are there any applications that use vnc to connect that are not vnc? Trying to reverse engineer a ubuntu desktop 9.10 and I can connect to it via vnc from windows, but i cant find any configuration files.
[23:15] <jrib> !9.10 | artcurmudgeon
[23:15] <artcurmudgeon> I have tried looking for .vnc directories and greping /var/log/auth.log and ps-ef |grep vnc
[23:16] <jrib> artcurmudgeon: that release is very very old and hasn't been supported for a long time
[23:16] <gordonjcp> artcurmudgeon: what do you mean "reverse engineer"?
[23:16] <artcurmudgeon> I know, I just had this dropped in my lap and I am beating a dent in my desk, and the person who built it is long gone. that is why I stuck my head in here
[23:16] <gordonjcp> and are you sure that means what you think it means?
[23:17] <gordonjcp> artcurmudgeon: what exactly are you trying to do?
[23:17] <artcurmudgeon> I have to figure out what applications are running on this, and possibly duplicate in on a 12.04lts box
[23:18] <gordonjcp> artcurmudgeon: ask the person that uses it?
[23:18] <artcurmudgeon> as I said the person who uses it and support it are long gone.
[23:18] <darkangel> is General 3.8 better then 3.2?
[23:18] <artcurmudgeon> and no docs to boot.
[23:19] <darkangel> Kernel not general sorry
[23:19] <gordonjcp> artcurmudgeon: then does it matter what it does?
[23:19] <jrib> artcurmudgeon: why do you care about this system?  Put a supported release on it
[23:19] <wylde> artcurmudgeon: you can "dpkg -l | grep ii > installed-packages.txt"
[23:19] <artcurmudgeon> jrib: I dont, my boss does. HE is convinced that it was perfect
[23:19] <artcurmudgeon> wylde: thank you
[23:20] <jrib> artcurmudgeon: make an image of the drive, and upgrade to 10.04 and then 12.04
[23:20] <wylde> that will list every installed package in a text file
[23:20] <gordonjcp> artcurmudgeon: perfect for what?
[23:20] <gordonjcp> artcurmudgeon: *someone* must know what it runs and why
[23:20] <jrib> the guy that left might :P
[23:20] <gordonjcp> artcurmudgeon: and if they don't, it's probably not really worth putting any effort into
[23:20] <artcurmudgeon> gordonjcp: rate of turn over was rather high
[23:21] <gordonjcp> artcurmudgeon: it's probably worth backing up /home if nothing else
[23:21] <gordonjcp> artcurmudgeon: what does your boss think it was perfect for?
[23:22] <artcurmudgeon> gordonjcp: it was a player a display.  someone decided to update a security ssl and it caused it to appear on a screen and it would have to be the screen that is not accessible via vnc
[23:23] <artcurmudgeon> opps player for a display
[23:23] <gordonjcp> artcurmudgeon: well, do what wylde said and see if you can disentangle anything from that
[23:23] <Javier12345> hi
[23:23] <sassa> Hi lads, I have searched and searched but cant find it anywhere of how to mount a ftp connection with ssl
[23:24] <artcurmudgeon> gordonjcp: I had a similar plan because the boss wants to put the player in every office we have...go  figure...and I dont want to support them...
[23:24] <artcurmudgeon> thank you everyone for your help
[23:24] <sassa> curlftpfs -o ssl -o sll_control -o no_verify_hostname -d user:password@serverip:port /mnt/directory/
[23:24] <sassa> this is as far as I have came
[23:25] <Javier12345> someine can help me with how to complement the command dkgp --get-selections to give me the list in parta? its too long and only can read the last part (in tty mode, no scrolling)
[23:25] <sassa> anyone got a clue how to go on from this?
[23:26] <arctanx> Javier12345: add " | more" to the end
[23:26] <Javier12345> arctanx: great!
[23:26] <wylde> Javier12345: or " | less"
[23:27] <Javier12345> wylde: :) good to know
[23:28] <wylde> :)
[23:29] <the_roots_> no i did not
[23:35] <bl4ckdu5t> How can I install Microsoft core fonts like Trebuchet, Maiandra, Papyrus, chiller, jokerman e.t.c on my Ubuntu
[23:36] <daftykins> bl4ckdu5t: via the package - think it used to be called msttcorefonts
[23:36] <daftykins> unless they're not in that
[23:36] <daftykins> in which case no idea
[23:38] <wylde> bl4ckdu5t: they are included with a number of other things in the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[23:38] <bl4ckdu5t> wylde: How can I get to those?
[23:39] <Gaming4JC> Hello, I am trying to install Seeks (http://archive.sileht.net/seeks/) on Ubuntu Precise, but it says The following packages have unmet dependencies: seeks : Depends: libtokyocabinet9 (>= 1.4.47) but it is not installable
[23:39] <Gaming4JC> any ideas on where I can get this package? I see we have tokyocabinet, but not that libtokyocabinet9 specifically.
[23:39] <wylde> bl4ckdu5t: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" that will install mscorefonts as well as flash and a few other things
[23:39] <wylde> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:39] <bl4ckdu5t> I just did a "apt-cache search" for msttcorefonts and I found the ttf-mscorefont-installer but I am doubting if it will have all the fonts I need b'cos I once read from an article on the web that it contains just few fonts
[23:40] <wylde> bl4ckdu5t: that may very well be the case. That package gets pulled in as well as others as dependencies of the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[23:43] <daftykins> bl4ckdu5t: ah well, why would you need MS fonts anyway 0o
[23:44] <bl4ckdu5t> I really love Trebuchet and I will like to continue using it for some of my designs and write-ups
[23:44] <wylde> bl4ckdu5t: If I recall correctly that font is included.
[23:46] <bl4ckdu5t> ok then, thanks
[23:46] <Gaming4JC> bl4ckdu5t: Also wondering why you need MSFonts, likely the free alternatives will work nicely. Regardless this should help (bottom of post for related fonts particularly) http://www.unixmen.com/install-more-fonts-for-ubuntudebian/
[23:47] <FastCode> I have a really weird problem with clinfo and optimus.when running without optirun it complains about libOpenCL.so.1, and when running with optirun it shows intel integrated graphics.what could be wrong?
[23:47]  * Gaming4JC is still waiting on a libtokyocabinet9 package
[23:48] <bl4ckdu5t> ok I will check that out
[23:50] <FastCode> here's what i have installed and what clinfo says:http://paste.debian.net/39162/
[23:51] <toddaaro> anyone around know what the deal is with ivy bridge integrated gpus? my computer is totally messed up because it has one and ubuntu insists on making it "primary" even though the bios has it as disabled as possible
[23:51] <FastCode> and I have reinstalled(with --purge) almost all packages I could think of.
[23:51] <toddaaro> halfway through boot it swaps over to the intel graphics even if a display isn't plugged into it
[23:52] <toddaaro> I've tried every permutation on drivers I can, blacklisting, etc.
[23:52] <toddaaro> I want the machine to act like the iGPU does not exist
[23:52] <FastCode> toddaaro: I'd try removing xserver-xorg-video-intel and see if anything changes
[23:52] <toddaaro> FastCode: ok, will that remove all the intel drivers?
[23:53] <FastCode> not the drivers, only userspace
[23:53] <FastCode> is it an optimus setup?
[23:53] <toddaaro> no, i7-3770k
[23:53] <FastCode> is it a laptop or not?
[23:53] <toddaaro> desktop, just trying to get the normal discrete amd card working
[23:54] <FastCode> then, this should do
[23:54] <toddaaro> ok I'll try it then, thanks
[23:54] <FastCode> make sure you have necessary amd drivers installed before doing this
[23:55] <FastCode> you may completely lose graphics and end up with a tty
[23:55] <FastCode> or worse
[23:55] <toddaaro> FastCode: do I need to rebuild the init image for this?
[23:56] <FastCode> I haven't had an amd card for a long time, not sure
[23:56] <FastCode> this is what happens when an intel and nvidia mess up.
[23:56] <karen_> does anyone know what redbox-desktop is?
[23:57] <FastCode> anyone have any ideas about my opencl issue? http://paste.debian.net/39162/
[23:59] <Gaming4JC> !package redbox-desktop | karen_
[23:59] <Gaming4JC> !packages redbox-desktop | karen_
[23:59] <Gaming4JC> ubottu fails
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> karen_, From a quick search it appears to be the netflix desktop http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/ehoover_compholio_netflix/precise/main/base/redbox-desktop
[23:59] <Gaming4JC> anyway karen_ it's in the repository "Redbox Desktop provides a convient tool that downloads and installs all of the components necessary to run Redbox under Wine."