[02:00] <loser> Hi
[02:03] <loser> Hellloooo?
[02:03] <loser> Anyone here?
[02:04] <monkeyjuice> hello
[02:09] <loser> Oh, hi!
[02:09] <loser> Someone is here.
[02:09] <loser> Anyways,
[02:10] <loser> I need some help with installing Kubuntu 1104 into VirtualBox.
[02:10] <monkeyjuice> why 11.04
[02:12] <loser> I install it successfully but then it freezes on the first boot on the bootup splash.
[02:12] <loser> I know 1104 is not supported, but it was the only option I could use as I don't have DVD's only CD's.
[02:12] <loser> i.e To use.
[02:13] <monkeyjuice> no need for a cd just download the iso and install from that
[02:13] <monkeyjuice> on virtualbox
[02:13] <monkeyjuice> use 12.04 at least
[02:13] <loser> I know that,
[02:13] <loser> but I used it on my PC first
[02:14] <loser> and didn't like it cuz it hogged up too much HDD space
[02:14] <monkeyjuice> well you dont want 11.04
[02:14] <loser> On my pc
[02:14] <loser> and the boot selecter was ugly
[02:14] <loser> So, I chose 11.04 and started to install it into virtualbox.
[02:15] <monkeyjuice> 11.04 is at it eol
[02:15] <monkeyjuice> !eol
[02:16] <loser> ubottu, thanks for the advertisement -_-
[02:16] <loser> Oh sorry.
[02:17] <loser> hey, isnt it NO BOTS ALLOWED? ubottu?
[02:17] <monkeyjuice> you have an older system?
[02:17] <loser> ubottu, sorry if that was rude but seriously.
[02:17] <loser> Kind of.
[02:18] <loser> Win 7, 2GB RAM, Intel Core 2 Duo. You get the deal. It's mixed old/new. My step-dad built it for my mum but then she needed a more powerful system so I got it.
[02:18] <loser> it's about 3-4 years old.
[02:18] <loser> Or 2-3/
[02:18] <monkeyjuice> that should still run fine
[02:18] <monkeyjuice> your dual booting this 
[02:18] <monkeyjuice> ?
[02:22] <loser> Yes, deleted it after (GRUB is UGLY) and decided to install it into VirtualBox on Windows 7.
[02:23] <monkeyjuice> grub is ugly?
[02:23] <loser> Besides, I also hated not being able to play my music. My main PC doesn't have a net connection :(
[02:25] <loser> Yes.
[02:25] <monkeyjuice> well i cant help you with 11.04 and i dont use windows so cant help you with that eather sorry
[02:26] <loser> It also lists 2 Windows 7 options, when I'm not tripple booting with 7, 7 and Kubuntu.
[02:26] <loser> Oh and it's alright.
[02:26] <loser> I guess I'll get 12.04 whenever I can. I am using a school computer right now (teehee).
[02:26] <loser> Thanks for the help!
[02:31] <loser> Bye!
[02:56] <LOLCat> HELLO
[03:03] <LOLCat> I would like some help?
[03:04] <LOLCat> Hi kittykittenkat
[03:06] <goosie2020> whats up guys
[03:08] <goosie2020> any idea why when i change my wallpaper it only does it for my main workspace and not for all of them?
[03:25] <Genyar> hi there
[03:25] <Genyar> Anyone here?
[03:27] <Genyar> I'm trying to delete a Windows partition using theGnome Partition Editor (GPartEd),and I need help
[03:28] <Genyar> I have the GParted on a live CD and it booted up and is working, but I need some help
[03:28] <Genyar> Can someone help me?
[03:31] <Genyar> Is there anyone here?
[03:31] <Genyar> Who knows how touse the Gnome Partition Editor?
[04:05] <Genyar> anyone here?
[04:05] <Genyar> Anyone here know how to use the Gnome Partition Editor?
[04:09] <Genyar> Do you know how to use the Gnome Partition Editor doug?
[04:48] <Genyar> anyone here?
[04:55] <Genyar> Why is no one chatting here?  Are you all in private conversations?
[06:24] <__mickael__> Hello there.
[06:25] <__mickael__> When I try to install wine on 13.04, apt-get fails because of this guy: /var/cache/apt/archives/libp11-kit-gnome-keyring_3.6.3-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb 
[06:27] <__mickael__> /var/cache/apt/archives/libp11-kit-gnome-keyring_3.6.3-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb (--unpack)  -> tries to replace /var/cache/apt/archives/libp11-kit-gnome-keyring_3.6.3-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb but is dif than other instance of libp11-kit-gnome-keyring:amd64
[06:28] <__mickael__> any idea ?
[06:49] <shrinivasan_> anybody here for global jam?
[06:49] <shrinivasan_> on kde documentation?
[09:17] <deekay> KAND4O6
[09:17] <netrunner_> hi
[09:32] <unutulmusolan> hi could somebody write the name of kubuntu's display manager(i want to install it to another distrubitoun)
[09:33] <tsimpson> unutulmusolan: by default Kubuntu uses LightDM
[09:33] <unutulmusolan> tsimpson sorry i mean monitor manager
[09:33] <tsimpson> monitor manager?
[09:33] <unutulmusolan> position of monitors, what monitors will be used etc.
[09:34] <tsimpson> that's part of KDEs System Settings, it should come with any KDE install
[09:36] <unutulmusolan> by default it's like this :http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9XFAUJBqajo/TrrwUNlBE3I/AAAAAAAAGYE/GCUyXGKWh9Q/s320/kde-display-settings.png, in kubuntu:http://i.stack.imgur.com/3iyx0.png
[09:37] <unutulmusolan> I want to know where can i get this because it so file
[09:37] <unutulmusolan> xible than the originial
[09:38] <tsimpson> the first one looks exactly like what I have here on 4.10.5
[09:38] <tsimpson> so it's likely those are just different versions of the same thing
[09:39] <tsimpson> sorry, the second one
[09:39] <tsimpson> it used to look like the first one
[09:40] <yofel> unutulmusolan: old one was krandr (first screenshot), new one is kscreen
[09:40] <tsimpson> I don't see any difference in functionality, so it probably doesn't matter too much about which you have
[09:40] <unutulmusolan> tsimpson yofel you're right perchance i read that(in second link) it was the new one. Sorry for taking your time.
[09:41] <tsimpson> unutulmusolan: it's fine :)
[09:42] <unutulmusolan> it's more like kde spesific then kubuntu but i have to ask how can we set three monitors?
[10:53] <Greylocks_>  Greylocks
[11:57] <user_guy> hello, for some reason i can't boot into the kubuntu desktop livecd.  i downloaded the kubuntu desktop livecd (64-bit, latest release, as a torrent), and burnt it to a disc.  however, when i try to boot up into the cd, it won't boot.  it doesn't give any error message, nor does it ask me for boot settings.  it just has a blinking cursor in the top left.  i do not believe the kernel is loaded, as sysreq won't work, and in order to 
[11:57] <user_guy> what's wrong?  is it something with my cd tray, with the disc, or is it just not compatible with my system?
[11:58] <user_guy> other oses will boot into a livecd (fedora, opensuse, debian, etc), but for some reason kubuntu will not.
[11:59] <Tm_T> user_guy: have you tried with ubuntu too yet?
[11:59] <user_guy> no, i have not tried it with ubuntu.  i don't currently have the ubuntu live cd downloaded, i'll start downloading it now.
[12:12] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[12:30] <PeterGriffin> Samba problem: When I try to create ot copy file in a samba share from a Kubuntu desktop, the access is denied. It happens when it is mounted fron /etc/fstab. When I mount it browsing the network from frowser it acts ok.
[12:36] <EvilRoey> Howdy
[12:36] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj, PeterGriffin: good morning
[12:36] <EvilRoey> I am trying to figure out why Firefox takes fifteen seconds until it actually starts receiving data from a page, and why Chromium-Browser does it instantly.
[12:37] <PeterGriffin> EvilRoey: Good morning 
[12:38] <BluesKaj> what are mounting in /etc/fstab  PeterGriffin , are you trying to add a shared drive/partition ?
[12:39] <BluesKaj> 'Morning EvilRoey
[12:41] <PeterGriffin> BluesKaj: Exactly
[12:46] <PeterGriffin> BluesKaj:  Just to add - mounted to other computers this share has no problem to be writen to.
[12:46] <BluesKaj> sharing folders  over a network doesn't need fstab entries , sharing drives is best using SSH or NFS http://milindpadalkar.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/sharing-folders-using-samba/
[12:50] <BluesKaj> PeterGriffin, I'm somewhat confused are you sharing whole drives or just the /home directory?
[12:51] <PeterGriffin> BluesKaj: it is a whole drive
[12:53] <BluesKaj> PeterGriffin, , ok what errors , justa ccess denied ?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> access denied 
[12:54] <PeterGriffin> Access denied. Could not write <file>
[12:54] <BluesKaj> and are these other linux machines or windows, or both ?
[12:55] <PeterGriffin> BluesKaj: Both.
[12:58] <LessEvilRoey> So
[13:02] <BluesKaj> PeterGriffin, I used the "add network folder" option in dolphin to access wife's pc using the "microsoft windows network drive" protocol , for linux I use ssh option /protocol. They both use smb , which is samba withput the gui.
[13:02] <BluesKaj> wthout the gui
[13:04] <BluesKaj> wifes' pc is a window machine of course
[13:04] <BluesKaj> damn KB , gonna throw it out the window soon 
[13:05] <PeterGriffin> hahaa
[13:05] <PeterGriffin> But when I mount it through Dolphin it is read only
[13:05] <PeterGriffin> I don't know why
[13:06] <PeterGriffin> to mount it with fstab solves the problem in other computer
[13:06] <PeterGriffin> only here there is this problem
[13:07] <BluesKaj> that sounds like NFS not samba
[13:07] <Avihay> BluesKaj: I have this NFS issue where a folder contents don't get updated properly. the files int the folder are consumed by the server, but the client still sees files there. sometimes an ls would fix it, but not always, the only solution I have so far that worked, was to finger a file, and then instantly rm it. I don't want a hack like that
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Avihay, what about rsync?
[13:09] <PeterGriffin> BluesKaj: Doesn't samba use NFS
[13:09] <Avihay> I have a program that has to create files for the server to consume, and I musn't generate too many files in one batch, or the FS overhead costs too much time
[13:11] <BluesKaj> PeterGriffin, not by default
[13:11] <Avihay> thing is, the client program displays how many files are in the queue (server shared folder where files are consumed from), and having it stuck on 8 looks bad to the user
[13:13] <BluesKaj> Avihay, I've never seen or experienced that with NFS , so i don't know what could be wrong 
[13:13] <Avihay> I assume it's some sort of folder state cache
[13:14] <BluesKaj> PeterGriffin, http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2011-May/162651.html
[13:16] <bjrohan> Does anyone here have experience with KMail? I have 2 accounts. I sent an email from acct 1 (gmail) to acct 2 (godaddy). It arrived in my accout #2, in acct #2 when I hit reply, it is using my acct #1 settings (it is not replying to the gmail account, it is replying from the gmail accout)
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Avihay, I assume that rsync would help update files over NFS if it could be set as a script in startup , but that doesn't seem to be relevant to a queue problem
[13:17] <bjrohan> If I use reply to author, the to address is correct, but it uses my gmail signature, not my godaddy signature
[13:18] <Avihay> I concur
[13:21] <PeterGriffin> My battery went down
[13:21] <PeterGriffin> Did I miss St
[13:22] <BluesKaj> PeterGriffin, no , you didn't
[13:24] <BluesKaj> server/client
[13:31] <PeterGriffin> It says it is rwad/write, but it is not. I really can'tfigure it out
[13:33]  * BluesKaj wishes he had more experience with WANs
[13:33]  * LessEvilRoey wants some attention from BluesKaj too
[13:34] <LessEvilRoey> this Fx issue is annoying me
[13:34] <BluesKaj> well LessEvilRoey , io'm not exactly having much success helping so far today :(
[13:35] <LessEvilRoey> hey it's alright
[13:35] <LessEvilRoey> I understand then.
[13:36] <LessEvilRoey> take your time.
[13:37] <BluesKaj> LessEvilRoey, firefox loads it's plugins from the mozilla plugins file when it launches , chromium has flash onboard so it's faster to load
[13:40] <BluesKaj> PeterGriffin, is the access denied pc on a local network , or part of an intranet system
[13:40] <PeterGriffin> LAN
[13:41] <PeterGriffin> BluesKaj: I have a feeling it is a credential issue but I cant figure out exactly how
[13:43] <BluesKaj> PeterGriffin, try accessing thru network folder using ssh setting if it's alinux pc
[13:43] <BluesKaj> forget samba gui for now
[13:44] <PeterGriffin> is this option in fs tab
[13:44] <PeterGriffin> fstab
[13:44] <BluesKaj> no
[13:44] <BluesKaj> dolphin
[13:44] <PeterGriffin> aha
[13:45] <PeterGriffin> it was like this: fish://..... right?
[13:45] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:  it's not Flash
[13:45] <BluesKaj> fish can work 
[13:45] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:  it's that hwen I try to access Facebook,
[13:46] <LessEvilRoey> Firefox just sits there
[13:46] <LessEvilRoey> for about twenty seconds.  Before it starts pulling data.
[13:47] <BluesKaj> no matter what the site FF  loads flash by default afaik
[13:47] <BluesKaj> LessEvilRoey,^
[13:48] <PeterGriffin> BluesKaj: It cannot write still, even though the permitions are 777
[13:48] <LessEvilRoey> oh.
[13:48] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:  are you saying that it is loading Flash?
[13:48] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:  and that this is taking time?
[13:48] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:  how can I verify that this is indeed the cause?
[13:48] <LessEvilRoey> For what it's worth I have Noscript running.
[13:49] <BluesKaj> amongst other things , depends how many plugins are enabled, LessEvilRoey
[13:49] <LessEvilRoey> ok
[13:51] <trey_> coucou
[13:52] <trey_> salut
[13:52] <trey_> ca va ?
[13:52] <adevismes> salut
[14:00] <BluesKaj> LessEvilRoey, try launching your browsers from the cli and check the outputs 
[14:01] <PeterGriffin> BluesKaj: I think I found the solution. I added option in fstab - noperm. Now it works. 
[14:01] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:  good idea, thanks
[14:01] <BluesKaj> PeterGriffin, cool ! , what does noperm enable?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> permissions obviously , but that's somewhat insecure , no ?
[14:03] <PeterGriffin> BluesKaj: As I unterstand it disables credentials check on the server 
[14:03] <BluesKaj> right
[14:04] <PeterGriffin> yea it seems insecure, but I don't know in what way
[14:04] <BluesKaj> are you sure you want that , it seems like a dangerous solution 
[14:04] <BluesKaj> PeterGriffin,^
[14:05] <PeterGriffin> In the option summary reads that the insecurity is something like it will be available for the other users on the client machine
[14:05] <faLUCE> .
[14:05] <BluesKaj> well, a solution for now , perhaps someone else can help with this 
[14:07] <BluesKaj> anyway i don't understand using fstab with samba , NFS is a better method for LANs in my expreience
[14:09] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:  also, does this http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/12/showbiz/movies/jk-rowling-new-movie-potter/index.html?hpt=hp_t3   
[14:09] <PeterGriffin> I know it is the usual way, NFS, but it would mean I have to reconfigure the whole network
[14:09] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:  does that page make your text look weird 
[14:09] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:  as if some of the characters are not filled in (I see only outlines of the letters)
[14:09] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:  and I've duped it on both Fx and Chromium-Browser.
[14:10] <BluesKaj> les you have to have javascript running
[14:10] <BluesKaj> LessEvilRoey,^
[14:11] <BluesKaj> the page loads and reads fine here , LessEvilRoey
[14:11] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:  chromium-browser has JS running by default and Fx has it enabled for that site
[14:11] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:  I should take a screenshot..
[14:11] <PeterGriffin> BluesKaj: thanks for the support. If you meet this problem again keep in mind to use both "noperm" and "guest" optiond.
[14:12] <PeterGriffin> options*
[14:13] <BluesKaj> well PeterGriffin no permissions ia a bit drastic so I'm reluctant to suggest it 
[14:14] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:   blast it! I tried taking a screenshot but the screenshot doesn't show this!
[14:14] <LessEvilRoey> it could be my monitor.
[14:14] <LessEvilRoey> but then, this isthe only place I see this issue (on that specific page)
[14:16] <BluesKaj> LessEvilRoey, is this page linked thru facebook , if so try pasting the url in the addressbar directly 
[14:18]  * BluesKaj wonders how much tracking facebook does
[14:19] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:  it is not
[14:19] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:  probably a lot
[14:19] <LessEvilRoey> re: tracking by Facebook
[14:24] <BluesKaj> LessEvilRoey, one thing to check , look in ' about:plugins ' in your browser addressbar , and check what's enabled/disabled
[14:25] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:  ok
[14:26] <LessEvilRoey> BluesKaj:  also, I've noticed that Youtube takes forever and does not load in the end (i.e. the page never loads)
[14:26] <LessEvilRoey> on Firefox
[14:26] <LessEvilRoey> I attribute that to Flash having crashed yesterday
[14:26] <BluesKaj> ahh genii , glad to see you , we need some help here with fstab shares permissions , then browser 
[14:26] <LessEvilRoey> on Chromium-browser, Youtube loads instantly
[14:26] <LessEvilRoey> genii:  hey!!
[14:27]  * genii makes more coffee
[14:27] <BluesKaj> have you tried reinstalling flash plugin installer
[14:27] <BluesKaj> LessEvilRoey,^
[14:27] <LessEvilRoey> oh, I will try that then
[14:27] <LessEvilRoey> oh, is genii also a tester?
[14:28] <genii> LessEvilRoey: Yes, I'm running 13.10 at the moment
[14:28] <LessEvilRoey> ahh gotcha
[14:28] <LessEvilRoey> is it usable?
[14:28] <LessEvilRoey> like, should I upgrade to this still-in-development release?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> I'm on 13.10 LessEvilRoey ..seems fine right now 
[14:29] <LessEvilRoey> background: I've had years of experience running Debian SID on my home machine
[14:29] <LessEvilRoey> background: and rolled my own kernels
[14:29] <genii> Mostly usable. Wouldn't upgrade to it quite yet though for regular use, some bugs like printer-applet and not being able to open touchpad config in system settings, etc
[14:29] <LessEvilRoey> ah
[14:30] <LessEvilRoey> er maybe a gripe with 13.04 is that there is no representation of buttons for the Wacom Intuos5
[14:30] <BluesKaj> LessEvilRoey, not advisable for work machines but if you're adventurous and backup your data then go for it :)
[14:30] <LessEvilRoey> :D
[14:30] <LessEvilRoey> I did that when I had more time for it (i.e. college)
[14:31] <BluesKaj> I mean adventurous on a home pc
[14:32] <LessEvilRoey> of course
[14:33] <BluesKaj> :)
[14:38] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[14:39]  * genii makes more coffee
[14:48] <LessEvilRoey> hey lordievader 
[14:48] <lordievader> Hey LessEvilRoey, how are you?
[14:48] <LessEvilRoey> hey all good!
[14:48] <LessEvilRoey> evil, but good
[14:49] <lordievader> Okay, nice. Good to hear ;)
[14:55] <LessEvilRoey> :D
[15:35] <LucidGuy> Can someone explain to me what this login screen is? and how I can change it to allow me to type in the user name and password, not this logo bullshit.  This is Kubuntu 12.04 running on VirtualBox, on a real workstation the login looks nothing like this.
[15:36] <LucidGuy> http://picpaste.com/KubuntuLogIn-rA0TUwYE.jpg
[15:36] <LucidGuy> Tried "sudo sh -c 'echo "greeter-show-manual-login=true" >> /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf' "   that didnt work
[15:53] <genii> LucidGuy: Change theme-name=userbar    to   theme-name=classic   in  /etc/lightdm/lightdm-kde-greeter.conf
[16:21] <bjrohan> WHen using Kontact how do I get the Calendar to have a pop-up notification, similar to how Google Calendar does when it is open in a browser?
[16:21] <bjrohan> Or at least some kind of workflow stopping notification that I can't miss :-)
[16:25] <pawel__> hi, is there any way to check what's wrong with steam? it doesn't launch anymore
[16:25] <pawel__> I'm using Kubuntu 13.04
[16:26] <pawel__> few hours ago I played a game via steam, but now it won't launch
[16:26] <pawel__> top says it uses 100% cpu
[16:26] <mateusz_> Problem with time adjustment. Can't configure option to adjust time from internet. Any solutions?
[19:08] <x05h> Anyone tried using Matchbox Window Manager before?
[20:02] <goodtime> ugugjgg
[23:30] <goosie2020> Anyone know why when you use VLC on kubuntu when your in fullscreen mode the control bar doesnt fade away after you move your mouse off of it like it does normally?
[23:31] <goosie2020> And also, why the lock screen appears after about 20-30min of watching a video in VLC but all you have to do is hit shift and it goes away?
[23:34] <Walex> goosie2020: you haven't configured the screensaver as a screenlocker
[23:34] <goosie2020> I'm not sure what you mean
[23:35] <goosie2020> under the screen locker settings I have it set to "Simple Locker"
[23:36] <goosie2020> which is set by default i think
[23:39] <F41L> I've just installed Kubuntu on a dell precision workstation, I switched the graphics drivers to the proprietary nvidia ones to alleviate some UI lag, now it's made it 1000% worse and I can't even interact with the UI anylonger. Is there a way I can revert to the default driver using the commandline?