[00:38] <micahg> LoganCloud: did you file an FFe for all the packaging changes related to the timblserver and ticcutils syncs?
[00:41] <LoganCloud> I didn't figure that it required an FFe because there were no features added (just a package rename for ticcutils) and no transition invoked (I checked all build dependencies first). It is all to fix an RC bug.
[00:41] <micahg> LoganCloud: new binary packages require an FFe, it also started a transition (which I think is worthwhile, but now needs to be completed)
[00:43] <LoganCloud> But I checked all of the packages, and all of them already has libticcutils2-dev as at least an alternate build dependency. I do admit my mistake in not filing an FFe, though. Sorry about that.
[00:43] <LoganCloud> *have
[00:43] <LoganCloud> One sec, let me hop on IRC on my machine.
[00:44] <jbicha> see the build wait on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/timblserver/1.7-4
[00:45] <Logan_> Shoot. Should I sync timbl 6.4.4-4 as well?
[00:45] <Logan_> Probably requires an FFe.
[00:45] <micahg> Logan_: see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html under libticcutils-dev
[00:46] <micahg> I'd file an FFe for all of them
[00:46] <micahg> or at least the ones with binarypackage changes
[00:46] <micahg> which seems to be quite a few
[00:47] <Logan_> Alright. I'm working on a problem set right now, but I'll do that tonight. My bad.
[00:47] <micahg> thanks
[02:21] <porthose> Would a kind Release Team Member please accept the ampache upload, it is a bug fix only upload https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/ampache/3.6-rzb2752+dfsg-0ubuntu4
[02:26] <micahg> porthose: shouldn't be needed
[02:28] <ESphynx> micahg: Good evening :)
[02:28] <porthose> micahg, not sure if this matters, but these bugs where not reported on launchpad but the BTS instead
[02:29] <ESphynx> micahg: Any chance you could help us save the faith of the Ecere fixes to be included in Saucy? :)
[03:12] <micahg> porthose: the archive isn't frozen, stuff can float through as needed (uploaders are expected to request FFes when appropriate)
[03:13] <micahg> ESphynx: how?
[03:44] <ESphynx> micahg: i don't really know :\  still awaiting review @ http://mentors.debian.net/package/ecere-sdk ... I'm guessing xnox is away and/or busy =)
[03:44] <ESphynx> besides I got some extra fixes which finally solves the issues with Unity which will be available in 0.44.1 which I'm hoping will be ready this weekend =)
[03:45] <micahg> ESphynx: sorry, not a DD yet
[03:46] <ESphynx> are you a UD? :)
[03:46] <ESphynx> I'm just hoping a FFe will still be available once it's in Debian :)
[03:47] <ESphynx> although there's not really new feature so not sure if a FFe is required?
[03:49] <micahg> ESphynx: yeah, I can upload to Ubuntu
[03:50] <micahg> ESphynx: FFe is required for new binary, significant packaging changes, or new features
[03:53] <ESphynx> yeah none of that applies
[03:57] <Noskcaj_> cjwatson: sorry about the quality of the fonts-liberation merges, i was rushing to try and have them all ready before i went to school
[03:59] <cjwatson> That's OK, I'll fix them up.  Though I need to have another attempt at sleeping soon.
[03:59] <Noskcaj_> thanks, and sleep is good, although not many people i see in ubuntu realise that
[04:00] <cjwatson> I'm perfectly aware that sleep is good.  That doesn't mean my body agrees.
[06:45] <dholbach> good morning
[08:42] <Adri2000> Noskcaj: #1224337 it's not closed yet, I think you need some sleep ;)
[08:43] <Noskcaj> Adri2000, sorry, i was going to sleep when you told me and leaving for school when jeremy reminded me, i'll fix now
[08:43] <Adri2000> no problem
[08:44] <Noskcaj> bug 1224337
[08:45] <Noskcaj> fixed
[19:03] <ockham> hi, i've been told it'll still be possible to upload gourmet 0.16.1 after FF as it's largely a bug fix release
[19:03] <ockham> and i've been asked to sync back from debian
[19:03] <ockham> debian now has 0.16.1-1
[19:05] <jtaylor> ockham: I'll have a look
[19:05] <ockham> jtaylor: cool, thx!
[19:05] <jtaylor> the ubuntu changes can be dropped?
[19:05] <ockham> jtaylor: i need to look into that
[19:06] <jtaylor> please do, there seem to be a lot
[19:06] <ockham> debian maintainer did adopt some of my changes, but probably not all of them
[19:06] <ockham> i'm both upstream and author of 0.16.0-0ubuntu1
[19:08] <ockham> want me to list them here, or in a pastebin, or in a sync request proper?
[19:08] <jtaylor> I can sponsor a merge
[19:09] <ockham> meaning i'd need to prepare 0.16.1-1ubuntu1 ?
[19:10] <jtaylor> yes
[19:11] <jtaylor> if the changes from debian are minor we could drop them
[19:12] <ockham> jtaylor: yeah, that's what i'm thinking, too
[19:13] <ockham> e.g. debian maintainer is reluctant to use versioned depends/build-depends when unstable satisfies them anyway
[19:13] <jtaylor> what about stable?
[19:13] <ockham> i think stable does, too
[19:14] <jtaylor> precise is younger than debian oldstable
[19:14] <jtaylor> are there versioned depends required in ubuntu?
[19:15] <ockham> i guess not. but i'll give it a quick try -- running precise anyway
[19:15] <jtaylor> the debian maintainer should not be relucatant if its not satisfied in oldstable
[19:16] <ockham> jtaylor: well. squeeze has sqlalchemy 0.6-something, but we need >=0.7
[19:17] <jtaylor> hm precise has 0.7
[19:17] <jtaylor> so we can drop it
[19:18] <ockham> yeah, it should be fine. installing the debian package now (but i've tested mine here before anyway)
[19:19] <ockham> looks good
[19:20] <jtaylor> all the patches in ubuntu are applied in debian and ubuntu?
[19:20] <jtaylor> *upstream
[19:21] <ockham> i'm afraid license-location isn't in debian
[19:22] <ockham> scratch that
[19:22] <ockham> it's just named differently
[19:24] <jtaylor> ok good, the rest of the changes seem more cosmetic so we can drop them
[19:25] <ockham> jtaylor: cool!
[19:25] <jtaylor> k syncing
[19:25] <ockham> jtaylor: great, thx!
[19:26] <jtaylor> done
[19:26] <ockham> cool, that was quick!
[19:28] <jtaylor> yes syncing is easy, thus we always try to avoid differences to debian :)
[19:28] <ockham> jtaylor: i know. tried to talk debian maintainer into adopting my changes for 0.16.0 already, but he didn't react in time for raring FF
[19:28] <ockham> ...and after that, also only kinda reluctantly
[19:29] <ockham> btw, on another subject: is SRUing as easy as syncing ? ;-) talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/beautifulsoup/+bug/972466 and precise...
[19:30] <ockham> oh, sry, need to go afk for a bit...
[19:36] <jtaylor> ockham: SRUS are more work, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[19:36] <jtaylor> but if the fix is reasonable and can easily be tested its ok
[20:10] <ockham> ok, i'll look into that later. bye for now, and thx again for syncing!
[23:43] <mikeit> hi
[23:44] <mikeit> hi
[23:45] <mikeit> color test
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