[00:21] <torrem> hello
[00:22] <torrem> can i ask question?
[00:25] <bazhang> yes torrem
[00:27] <torrem> is ubuntu channel still banned my IP?
[00:28] <bazhang> torrem, not that I can see
[00:29] <torrem> ok thanks
 cant i talk to the people that make ubuntu
[08:07] <blazemore> Pici:
[08:17] <DJones> Hi kakaakak_
[08:18] <DJones> What was the nick that was banned so we can look up the details
[08:18] <kakaakak_> chunkyhead
[08:18] <ikonia> ahhh
[08:18] <ikonia> you do know why you where banned
[08:18] <kakaakak_> ikonia: banned me
[08:18] <ikonia> and why you continued to try to evade
[08:18] <ikonia> so please don't pretend you don't know
[08:19] <kakaakak_> ikonia: why was i banned, please let me know as well
[08:19] <ikonia> I'll get the details for you
[08:20] <ikonia> you where banned for telling lies about what you where doing - which was trying to install/use centos, and then when politly being asked not to, gave abuse
[08:21] <ikonia> you then tried to evade the ban multiple times
[08:21] <kakaakak_> ikonia: how do u know i was lying exactly? i was trying to install any linux version (hence i was asking for help on both centos and ubuntu channels)
[08:22] <kakaakak_> without using a CDROM or USB. u on the other hand were trolling asking irrelevant questions again and again/
[08:22] <ikonia> you where lying because a.) you admitted it b.) you where asking in #centos saying "I'm running centos"
[08:22] <ikonia> that gave me a good clue that you where not using ubuntu
[08:23] <kakaakak_> i was running centos but it was a really old version of centos. how was i lying exactly?
[08:24] <ikonia> because you where running centos.....
[08:24] <kakaakak_> and how does it matter if i was using centos, afaik i didn't violate any of irc guidelines when i did.
[08:24] <ikonia> and ubuntu is for ubuntu support
[08:24] <kakaakak_> i wanted to install ubuntu, so won't that come under ubuntu support?
[08:24] <ikonia> sure,
[08:24] <kakaakak_> i was on centos, so what?
[08:24] <ikonia> ok, so lets be honest
[08:24] <kakaakak_> sure why not
[08:24] <ikonia> you came in asking for centos help
[08:24] <ikonia> you got caught out
[08:25] <ikonia> you changed to "I want to install ubuntu"
[08:25] <ikonia> I tried to explain to you that your problem didn't actually appear to be a usb problem, but the fact that your centos install hadn't loaded the usb modules correctly
[08:25] <ikonia> and was trying to help prove/not prove that so you got a good solution
[08:25] <ikonia> instead you sent me private messages making jokes about my mother
[08:25] <ikonia> so you got banned
[08:25] <ikonia> you then persisted to try to evade the ban
[08:26] <ikonia> and that's why the ban stayed/your other nick/ips'
[08:26] <kakaakak_> let me tell you what to real story was. my old computer's cdrom and usb had failed. i had a really old version of centos so i wanted to upgrade to a more recent version, i was looking to install ubuntu or centos because i didnt mind both, how is that inviting for a ban?
[08:26] <ikonia> you continued to send me pm's over the last few weeks saying "can't ban me ha ha ha ha ha" or words to that effect
[08:26] <ikonia> re-read what I've said, and that should be clear why you where banned and why you have remained banned
[08:28] <ikonia> does that clarify it for you ?
[08:29] <kakaakak_> i agree about the private msg becuase it was frustrating to spend 4-5hours trying to install an OS, to which later i apologised as well. you were asking stupid questions to which i had already given the answer to
[08:29] <ikonia> you've not apologiezed
[08:29] <ikonia> you've tried to evade bans and sent mocking pm's for weeks
[08:29] <kakaakak_> dude, i did. u said haha do whatever you want because u are not going to be unbanned
[08:30] <ikonia> that is just nonsense
[08:30] <kakaakak_> the same evening i had sent a pm saying sorry, i was frustrated
[08:30] <ikonia> you have been using multiple nicks/ip's to mock evading the ban
[08:30] <ikonia> if you apologised, I'm sure I would have a.) noted it, b.) removed the ban as I appreciate how frustrating it can be
[08:30] <kakaakak_> from my home pc, and u said thank you for giving me ur correct ip, im banning this as well
[08:30] <kakaakak_> that's what really pissed me off
[08:31] <ikonia> that was when you contacted me to tell me you couldn't be banned
[08:31] <ikonia> not apologise
[08:31] <ikonia> there are even logs of you in #freenode pinging me to brag that you can't be banned
[08:31] <kakaakak_> it was initially, when u turned hostile i couldn't help it either bro.
[08:31] <ikonia> no-one turned hostile
[08:31] <ikonia> you refuse to listen, if you read the logs (which I'll link you to in a minute)
[08:31] <ikonia> you'll find you're getting good advice that you are looking at the wrong problem
[08:32] <ikonia> you thought your usb ports where dead - when they didn't appear to be, they appeared to be broken as your centos install was broken
[08:32] <ikonia> so you where getting advice on how to prove/disprove that
[08:32] <kakaakak_> this is just bs man, which channel guidelines did i violate. the only reason i PMed you because you were annoying.
[08:33] <ikonia> 1.) you where trying to get centos support until you got caught out 2.) you sent rude and offensive private mesages 3.) you tried to evade the ban multiple times after it was set
[08:33] <ikonia> those are the 3 guidelines
[08:35] <ikonia> that said, if you're actually willing to stop with this behaviour, and use the channel a little more honst and not be rude to users in the channel / pm we can look at removing the ban of your current nick/ip and your previous ones
[08:35] <kakaakak_> 3. i didnt evade, dynamic ip ftw. 2. try speding 4-5hrs in front of the computer explaining a random guy the same thing you will too, to which i was sorry and later apologized. 1. i wasn't caught out, as i explained i was looking to install anyone of ubuntu or centos whichever one was most convinient
[08:35] <ikonia> ok, so now we are back to lies
[08:35] <ikonia> you even tried to change the nickname
[08:36] <kakaakak_> yes because i needed help -_-
[08:36] <ikonia> right so you DID evade on purpose
[08:36] <ikonia> yo udidn't "dynamic ip"
[08:36] <ikonia> you made multiple efforts to evade on purpose and actually sent me messages for weeks mocking it
[08:36] <kakaakak_> how is that my fault that my isp offers dynamic ip
[08:36] <ikonia> oh, and it changes your nickname too
[08:37] <kakaakak_> i want i still can use ubuntu channel, the only reason i came here was to clear things out.
[08:37] <ikonia> I appreciate that, which is why I said if you can behave within the guidelines, I'd be happy to clear the bans on your current nicks and other nicks
[08:37] <ikonia> but you need to start being honest
[08:37] <Tm_T> kakaakak_: let met get one thing straight: there's no excuse for bad behaviour
[08:38] <kakaakak_> ikonia: man, i've been saying the same thing since day one. WHATEVER I SAID ABOUT CENTOS AND STUFF WAS NO LIE. IT WAS A GENUINE PROBLEM, I STILL HAVE IT.
[08:38] <jpds> kakaakak_: So, go to the #centos channel?
[08:38] <ikonia> no, but you just lied about evading the ban on purpose
[08:39] <kakaakak_> Tm_T: i felt i was being trolled, hence the behaviour. otherwise im pretty cool
[08:39] <ikonia> and you would not admit you where running centos until I actually caught you out
[08:39] <ikonia> kakaakak_: I fully appreciate your problem and believe I understand/can help on it
[08:39] <ikonia> which is why I'm trying to push you to validate your usb ports
[08:39] <Tm_T> kakaakak_: it doesn't matter, there's no excuse for bad behaviour whatsoever
[08:40] <kakaakak_> jpds: i was looking to install a recent version of any linux distro hence multiple channels
[08:41] <ikonia> kakaakak_: your initial question wasn't "how do I install ubuntu" it was "how do I update my kernel"
[08:41] <ikonia> and as you where running centos , asking in an ubuntu channel isn't good
[08:41] <ikonia> or at least say I'm running centos
[08:41] <ikonia> once you where caught out/corrected on that, you then wanted to install ubuntu
[08:41] <ikonia> which people, myself included tried to help you with
[08:41] <kakaakak_> ikonia: yes man, i was thankful for that.
[08:42] <ikonia> no you where not
[08:42] <ikonia> which is why you sent me a pm about my mother
[08:42] <kakaakak_> but later on i tried to explain you something to which you weren't listening
[08:42] <ikonia> again - honestly is the key
[08:42] <ikonia> kakaakak_: I assure you the channel was listening
[08:42] <ikonia> hence why you where getting GOOD advice
[08:42] <kakaakak_> i agree that wasn't good on my part.
[08:43] <kakaakak_> but i spend 2 hours trying to explain to you something which you weren't listening to, instead you were persisting on something else
[08:43] <ikonia> kakaakak_: I listened and understood, more than you did, which is why I was actually guiding you to the correct solution
[08:43] <kakaakak_> ikonia: then it was probably my frustrated mind which wasn't as receptive
[08:43] <ikonia> based on the information you provided in #ubuntu and #centos - I got a good picture of the problem and believe I understood and had a solution
[08:44] <kakaakak_> you guys can see my logs from the start, not just this incident, but from maybe when i joined, i really dont mess around. ikonia you have helped me aot earlier
[08:44] <kakaakak_> i have been using this channel for over 2 years i guess
[08:44] <ikonia> exaclty, I helped you
[08:44] <ikonia> and you chose to repay that by sending me a private message that was rude, evading bans and mocking me about it
[08:44] <kakaakak_> ikonia: you did, no doubt, but at that point i felt you were trolling.
[08:45] <ikonia> and then you come in here and try to lie saying "it was a dynamic iP"
[08:45] <ikonia> rather than "yes, sorry"
[08:45] <ikonia> if you scroll up - I said I'd be happy to remove the bans for you, then you started telling lies again
[08:45] <kakaakak_> i would say sorry if it was my fault. i agree i shouldn't have said bad things about your mother and i am sorry for it
[08:45] <ikonia> kakaakak_: I appreciate your sorry, that's all you had to say, but instead of you've wasted 20 minutes with lies
[08:46] <kakaakak_> ikonia: i still am not lying
[08:46] <ikonia> really, so did you , or did you not evade a ban on purpose ?
[08:46] <ikonia> yes/no
[08:46] <kakaakak_> ikonia: no
[08:46] <ikonia> right, so why did you change nicknames multiple times and IP addresses and continue to use #ubuntu knowing you where banned /
[08:46] <kakaakak_> because i needed help
[08:46] <kakaakak_> lol
[08:46] <ikonia> why did you send me messages saying "can't ban me !"
[08:47] <ikonia> kakaakak_: right, so that is "on purpose"
[08:47] <ikonia> so you are telling lies
[08:47] <ikonia> I don't find it funny, you're just wasting my time
[08:47] <kakaakak_> wait, for that purpose yes. that was on purpose again because i felt u were trolling
[08:47] <kakaakak_> other times when i evaded ban that was because i needed help
[08:48] <ikonia> so multiple times on purpose
[08:48] <ikonia> and multple mocking pm's
[08:48] <ikonia> or in public
[08:48] <ikonia> basically - I can't trust/believe what you are saying
[08:48] <kakaakak_> i agree, im sorry
[08:48] <ikonia> I don't believe you
[08:48] <ikonia> if you said that at the start, I would have done
[08:50] <kakaakak_> let me get things straight for the last time. 1. i still have that usb cdrom problem, looking to install any linux distro on it. 2. i did abuse your mother, i am sorry for it. 3. i did evade bans, sometimes to mock you, other times for help (like now) 4. you do help, i just felt u were trolling hence the behaviour
[08:51] <ikonia> the issue is also that less than 20 lines up you told lies
[08:51] <ikonia> so I don't believe you
[08:51] <kakaakak_> WHAT IS A LIE HERE? -_-
[08:51] <ikonia> you said you didn't evade bans on purpose
[08:51] <ikonia> you said you didn't mock me
[08:51] <kakaakak_> that was because most of the time it was for help
[08:51] <ikonia> so, that is still evading a ban on purpose
[08:51] <kakaakak_> i said i mocked you because i felt you wrongfully banned me.
[08:52] <ikonia> yes, and that is unacceptable
[08:52] <ikonia> and earlier you said you didn't mock me
[08:52] <ikonia> it's very hard to believe what you say that you have to pull the truth from you and you are so willing to just say untrue things so easy
[08:53] <kakaakak_> let me get things straight for the last time. 1. i still have that usb cdrom problem, looking to install any linux distro on it. 2. i did abuse your mother, i am sorry for it. 3. i did evade bans, sometimes to mock you, other times for help (like now) 4. you do help, i just felt u were trolling hence the behaviour
[08:53] <kakaakak_> ^truth
[08:53] <ikonia> yes, it's the truth now
[08:53] <ikonia> but you started this tale - telling lies about it
[08:54] <ikonia> if you had said that at the start I would unban you straight away as I said
[08:54] <ikonia> but now I doubt what you say
[08:54] <ikonia> you also don't seem to grasp that becuase you feel you are being trolled - doesn't mean you can act as you did
[08:55] <ikonia> but I do appreciate you saying sorry, as opposed to pretending you said sorry rather than actually mocking me, that is appreciated
[08:55] <kakaakak_> ikonia: i had said sorry the evening you banned me.
[08:55] <kakaakak_> saying sorry man, im not asking for you to unban me
[08:55] <kakaakak_> but i just wanted to say sorry because i felt bad or something like that
[08:56] <ikonia> again - this is lies
[08:56] <ikonia> you came in here saying you wanted to be unbanned and you didn't know why you where banned
[08:56] <kakaakak_> umm is there a way to get pm chal logs?
[08:56] <ikonia> not to say sorry
[08:56] <kakaakak_> chat*
[08:56] <ikonia> not if you've closed the window,
[08:56] <ikonia> I'm sorry, but I can't continue with this as it's just a waste of time while you are telling lies
[08:56] <kakaakak_> ikonia: i did say. that's because i didnt know PMing someone could lead to channel bans
[08:57] <ikonia> sorry - this is just a waste of time now
[08:57] <kakaakak_> ikonia: you think after agreeing to what most of what you have said i would still lie about one thing and still continue a ban
[08:57] <ikonia> you just said you wanted to join not to get unbanned but apologies
[08:57] <kakaakak_> well sure
[08:57] <ikonia> yet you said earlier you wanted to be unbanned and didn't know why you where banned
[08:57] <ikonia> this is just total conflict
[08:57] <kakaakak_> yes because I DIDNT KNOW PMing COULD LEAD TO BANS
[08:58] <kakaakak_> i dont PM much.
[08:58] <ikonia> only to mock about evading bans or send abuse about people
[08:58] <kakaakak_> to which i said sorry.
[08:58] <kakaakak_> but u arent listening
[08:58] <ikonia> again, I am
[08:59] <kakaakak_> this type of behaviour i know is wrong, like i said i never do it. it was just this one time.
[08:59] <kakaakak_> and i still stick to what i said that i had apologized to you in the evening. and i am apologizing now as well
[09:00] <kakaakak_> if you still think im lying well idk
[09:00] <ikonia> kakaakak_: it wasn't just this "one time"
[09:00] <kakaakak_> ikonia: i mean before the banning incident
[09:00] <ikonia> you spent weeks in channels or pm mocking me saying you couldn't be banned
[09:00] <kakaakak_> i meant before the banning incident
[09:00] <ikonia> kakaakak_: right - so rather than address the problem, you just kept trying to evade
[09:01] <ikonia> and kept mocking me
[09:01] <ikonia> that is "problem behaviour"
[09:01] <kakaakak_> ikonia: i clearly remember you had said im not gonna ban you no matter what. at that time i didnt know there was a channel called ubuntu-ops
[09:01] <kakaakak_> or i would have addressed to them right away
[09:01] <ikonia> that is not true at all
[09:01] <ikonia> again - the sooner you can be honest, the better
[09:02] <ikonia> the fact that I said earlier I was willing to unban you a soon as you started being honest suggests that is not the case
[09:02] <kakaakak_> ikonia: ah man. I am saying the truth.
[09:02] <ikonia> I did say I would not unban you while you continued to try to evade
[09:02] <kakaakak_> why the hell would i stretch this convo more
[09:02] <ikonia> ok, you're right, lets end it now
[09:03] <ikonia> have a think for a few days, and come back to this channel and perhaps try to be a little more clear/honest at the start of the conversation and we can discuss removing the ban once we've both thought about it
[09:03] <kakaakak_> ikonia:  you did, when i apologized in the evening, you said thank you for correct ip, im banning this. to which i replied yea sure try all you want
[09:03] <ikonia> in the mean time if you could /part ubuntu that would be great
[09:03] <kakaakak_> ikonia: was that not true?
[09:04] <ikonia> false
[09:04] <kakaakak_> the only reason i apologized to you in the evening is because i felt i did wrong. you banned my other ip as well.
[09:04] <kakaakak_> dude that is bs man
[09:04] <bazhang> this is going nowhere
[09:04] <kakaakak_> dont unban me. thank you for ur time
[09:05] <kakaakak_> first you try to show your power when someone rightly apologizes and later deny saying that i am lying
[09:05] <ikonia> have a think for a few days, and come back to this channel and perhaps try to be a little more clear/honest at the start of the conversation and we can discuss removing the ban once we've both thought about it
[09:05] <ikonia> in the mean time if you could /part ubuntu that would be great
[09:06] <kakaakak_> i really wish we had logged PMs. ikonia then we'd know who was lying
[09:06] <ikonia> ok
[09:09] <ikonia> kakaakak_: if you could follow the request I've given (I'll also put some thought into it) /part #ubuntu can come back in a day, maybe two tops
[09:09] <ikonia> and we'll review it then with clear heads
[09:11] <ikonia> kakaakak_: also can I ask just before you go
[09:11] <kakaakak_> ikonia: i remember you said i've taken a screenshot of this PM. although you'd be most unwilling to give it here, but just review it and see i did apologize that same day
[09:11] <ikonia> I've not taken a screen shot of any pm ?
[09:11] <ikonia> nor have I said I have
[09:11] <kakaakak_> this was long back when i PMed you for the first time
[09:11] <ikonia> ok, sure, as I said we'll review it in a day or so
[09:12] <ikonia> kakaakak_: can I ask if you managed to replace centos on your machine ?
[09:12] <ikonia> or if you are still having the problem with it ?
[09:12] <kakaakak_> still same prob
[09:13] <ikonia> kakaakak_: so how did you get ubuntu on it ?
[09:13] <kakaakak_> i didnt. this is another maching i am using
[09:13] <ikonia> ahh, I see, understood
[09:13] <kakaakak_> like i said i still have that problem.. only if you'd read what i type
[09:13] <ikonia> kakaakak_: ok, so if you could /part #ubuntu, come back in a day or so, after we've had chance to think, we'll discuss it then with a clean slate/approach
[09:14] <kakaakak_> what does /part do?
[09:14] <ikonia> leaves the channel
[09:14] <ikonia> sorry, if you could leave the #ubuntu channel and not use it until we've discussed this in a day or so, that would be helpful
[09:14] <kakaakak_> you mean this account?
[09:14] <ikonia> I mean - you as a person not use it under any nick/account/ip
[09:15] <ikonia> then re-join this channel and we'll review your ban with a fresh approach
[09:15] <kakaakak_> just wondering.. why are you "thinking" of unbanning me now?
[09:15] <ikonia> (this channel is #ubuntu-ops in case you where not clear)
[09:15] <ikonia> kakaakak_: I was going to unban you earlier if you check the history of this converation,
[09:16] <ikonia> I just want some time to think about it and discuss it with others after some of the other parts of this converation
[09:16] <ikonia> so if you rejoin this channel in 24 hours or so, we'll re-asses it with a clean view
[09:17] <kakaakak_> k
[09:19] <kakaka> could you just tell me the date when i was banned
[09:19] <kakaka> ikonia: ^
[09:23] <kakaka> anyone?
[09:24] <tsimpson> kakaka: the ban for the nick chunkyhead was set on 2013-08-01
[09:25] <kakaka> thank you
[09:27] <ikonia> sorry, just had a phone call
[09:27] <ikonia> apologies for that
[15:21] <ikonia> blazemore: hey
[15:21] <ikonia> blazemore: why do you keep joining this channel ?
[15:22] <ikonia> ahhh I see it's a ban forward
[15:22] <blazemore> Because I'm +b on #ubuntu and it redirects me here
[15:22] <ikonia> blazemore: are you there
[15:22] <ikonia> yeah, I see you told someone to remove /var
[15:22] <blazemore> I'm waiting for pici
[15:22] <blazemore> He was my friend
[15:22] <blazemore> not pici, the guy I was talking to :)
[15:22] <ikonia> so ?
[15:22] <blazemore> I'll wait for Pici
[15:23] <ikonia> you posted someone should remove /var in a public channel
[15:23] <ikonia> you must understand that others read it as genuine advice
[15:23] <blazemore> I'll discuss this with Pici, he banned me
[15:23] <blazemore> I do
[15:23] <blazemore> It stopped being funny in my head about a second after hitting Enter
[15:23] <ikonia> fine, pici's not available at the moment (not been in all day)
[15:24] <blazemore> I PM'd him a few hours ago, our timezones cross over soon
[15:24] <ikonia> I think he's been out today as he's not been active all day, which is unusual for him
[15:24] <blazemore> Not idling in here
[15:24] <ikonia> well, I wasn't suggeting that
[15:25] <ikonia> just saying he may not be here
[16:38] <TsarObomba> hey guys, Just sayy sofrry toi i9konia
[16:45] <genii> TsarObomba: If there's nothing else, please don't idle in this channel.
[16:56] <TsarObomba> genii: soirry foir idling, I had an emergency that me  me afk
[16:57] <TsarObomba> I just eant to sapooligixzr sand thaqnk Pici AlanBell and Tm_T for their helkp in solvering.removing the bans
[16:57] <TsarObomba> thanks agaiuin, anbd iu an off
[17:21] <ikonia> delt
[17:21] <Reginaldo> HELLO FAGGOTS
[17:22] <ikonia> Reginaldo: I'll remove the mute in a moment - if you continue with that language you will be banned and removed without any more discussion
[17:22] <ikonia> Reginaldo: do you understnad ?
[17:22] <ikonia> understand
[17:23] <ikonia> ok - based on your response (I can read you when I'm opp'ed) I'm going to just remove you and ban you
[18:20] <genii> @comment 57344 Idling after being warned.
[18:40] <bazhang>  [Vellik] (~fellipe@177.158.139.68): Fellipe F. Oliveira
[18:40] <bazhang> seems to be in rant mode
[18:41] <ikonia> maybe worth a little chat ?
[18:43] <bazhang> got in PM no response
[18:43] <bazhang> ah ragequit
[18:49] <genii> Weird, he seemed fairly reasonable earlier. < checks backscroll to see what happened>
[18:53] <genii> Ah, had some words with daftykins, who seems to have also somewhat provoked it.
[18:55] <bazhang> not really
[18:56] <bazhang> he way overreacted and then had a whole drama about it
[18:59] <genii> Yes, I agree the reaction was out of proportion.
[18:59] <bazhang> the user wanted to keep wubi. daftykins just said to read up before suggesting help
[19:00] <bazhang> vellik was talking about a solution that amis simply did not want
[19:01] <genii> bazhang: I thought they gave a bit of a jab ( although possibly with humorous intent) when they said "but bear this in mind - if a job is worth doing it's worth doing well, not rushed in a half-assed way :D"
[19:01] <bazhang> genii, I got that as towards amis using wubi
[19:11] <genii> bazhang: I'd already typed out the entire line before you hit !ot ... but hopefully he gets the hint
[19:11] <bazhang> hehe
 Hi! Im free for asking! Being an old unix guy .. I just want to bring out all my knowledge to you guys!
[19:42] <bazhang> now we can learn Romulan
[19:48] <genii> Yeah, that's been on my bucket list for a while now.
[19:48] <ikonia> I'll have to restain from showing me basic Romulan
[19:48] <ikonia> restain
[19:48] <ikonia> restrain
[19:48] <ikonia> stupid key sticking that tie
[19:48] <ikonia> time
[19:50] <Tm_T> ikonia: white shirt and tie -friday?
[19:51] <ikonia> ?
[19:51] <Tm_T> just kidding about the typo
[19:52] <ikonia> ahh
[19:52] <ikonia> in a very very ironic twist, the darmok TNG epsiode has just appeared on my TV
[19:52] <ikonia> and the like "shaka the walls fell" has just been said - 10 seconds ago
[19:52] <ikonia> no joke
[19:53] <genii> Yes, very weird.
[19:55] <ikonia> I'd just finished watching the episode redemption II and the next episode was darmok
[19:56] <ikonia> freaky timing
[19:57]  * genii hums the Twilight Zone theme for theatrical effect
[21:25] <LzrdKing> is this the right place to request an unbanning from #ubuntu-offtopic that occured a few months ago?
[21:27] <IdleOne> LzrdKing: this is the correct channel
[21:27] <LzrdKing> then i would like to make such a request
[21:27] <LzrdKing> could i please be unbanned from #ubuntu-offtopic?
[21:29] <IdleOne> Do you remember why you got banned?
[21:29] <LzrdKing> yes, i posted a link that ikonia found offensive and i should have known better
[21:30] <LzrdKing> but i know better now
[21:31] <IdleOne> yes, I just looked at that link and I have to agree that although funny it was not appropriate for any ubuntu channels
[21:31] <LzrdKing> it was logged!
[21:31] <IdleOne> the ban is logged and the reson for the ban
[21:31] <IdleOne> reason
[21:32] <LzrdKing> i just wanted to share
[21:32] <LzrdKing> but i realize it was not appropriate
[21:32] <IdleOne> LzrdKing: I understand, but you should also know that if/when you have an issue with an ops decision it is also not appropriate to argue it in the channel, instead you should come to this channel to discuss it.
[21:33] <LzrdKing> definitely
[21:33] <IdleOne> anyway, mistakes happen and I think you now know what is appropriate for ubuntu channels. I'll have the ban removed.
[21:33] <LzrdKing> thank you
[21:33] <IdleOne> sure thing
[21:34] <LzrdKing> there are no ops here... who gets ops in a channel for ops?
[21:34] <IdleOne> everybody here is an op in one or more ubuntu channels
[21:34] <IdleOne> we don't wear the @ all the time. Only when needed.
[21:35] <LzrdKing> :)
[21:35] <IdleOne> just give me a few minutes to track down someone to remove the ban
[21:36] <LzrdKing> ok, thank you
[21:38] <IdleOne> almost forgot
[21:38] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[21:38] <IdleOne> just in case you haven't read them before
[21:39] <LzrdKing> i will familiarize myself with them again
[21:39] <IdleOne> thank you.
[21:45] <IdleOne> There you go. remember to /part this channel
[21:51] <genii> @comment 57349 Ad spam
[22:37] <genii> Myrtti: Was http://ubottu.com/bans.cgi?log=57253 some repeat offender that came back with a derogatory nick just after?
[22:38] <Myrtti> no, that's the unicode vulnerability
[22:39] <genii> Ah, OK, thanks.
[22:40] <Myrtti> coretext api or whatever
[22:40] <genii> @comment 57253 Reviewed, not removed
[22:41] <Myrtti> I'll actually remove it, if you don't mind
[22:42] <Myrtti> if irssi plays ball with me
[22:42] <genii> OK :)
[22:43] <IdleOne> Do we really need mernilio wasting time in the channel?
[22:44] <Myrtti> well if he can't take the hint, I'll show him the door
[22:44] <Myrtti> likewise Murica
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> hello
[22:59] <IdleOne> hey wilee-nilee thanks for joining
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> sorry I relaize that was not called for
[23:00] <IdleOne> I just wanted to bring to your attention that in the past I have asked you not to tell people you are ignoring them. In that same spirit I would appreciate it if you didn't tell people not to ask you for help anymore. It is rude and only serves to upset the user.
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> no problem I am working on these responses. ;)
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> not acceptable even to me.
[23:01] <IdleOne> I know that sometimes helping people is frustrating but you can not take it out on them
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> yes, that is right
[23:01] <IdleOne> alright. thank you for your time :)
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> NO problem. ;)
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> I have slow cap key, lol
[23:02] <IdleOne> no WORRIES
[23:02] <IdleOne> :P
[23:03] <IdleOne> @mark wilee-nilee Asked to not tell user he is ignoring them or that he will not help them.