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cyphermoxlool: we had a team dinner01:18
cyphermoxlool: what's up?01:18
cyphermoxricmm: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-mir/0.1+13.10.20130913-0ubuntu101:19
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ricmmcyphermox: awesome01:59
ricmmogra_: ping01:59
cyphermoxricmm: and now I have that damned song in my head. I blame you02:04
ricmmlol02:08
ricmmcyphermox: do you know when the daily image builds?02:08
ricmmnot sure how to reach ogra/sergio for a spin02:08
cyphermoxricmm: no clue, I know nothing of the image02:08
cyphermoxI guess it starts sometime via cron02:08
ricmmnvm rsalveti can02:08
cyphermoxI expect that "sometime" to be relatively soon02:08
rsalvetiyeah, I can start02:09
rsalvetijust a sec02:09
rsalvetiI think ogra_ started one a few minutes ago02:10
OrokuSakifinally.. this guy sounds like me .http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded.core/4197502:21
OrokuSakiI can play paplay just fine with wav02:21
OrokuSakihttps://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/meta-freescale/2013-August/004166.html02:25
OrokuSakisame guy.. still trying to fix it.. just like me02:25
OrokuSakioddl enough, I could play mp3's without accept4 in my kernel, and a udev using up 99% cpu power.. then I could play  mp3 in the music app02:25
OrokuSakiall the way through02:26
OrokuSakiadd accept4, udev is now happy.. but.. I can't play a mp3 with qt, and gstreamer and pulse02:26
OrokuSakibut I can with just pulse, and I cannot do a gstreamer tone test with pulse in terminal..02:26
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ArthurzbHello05:46
ArthurzbI have one question. If I have Samsung Table N-8000, can I install on it ubuntu touch OS?05:46
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mardyzsombi: hi! I'm running the unit tests of ubuntu-ui-toolkit on my nexus 4, and one test fails:07:20
mardyFAIL!  : tst_UCUnits::defaultGridUnit() Compared floats are not the same (fuzzy compare) Actual   (units.gridUnit()): 18 Expected (8.0f): 8 Loc: [tst_units.cpp(36)]07:20
mardyzsombi: however, I don't think it's related to my patch07:20
zsombimardy, which one does fail?07:21
mardyzsombi: see the line I pasted above: tst_UCUnits::defaultGridUnit07:21
zsombimardy: yep, not yours07:22
zsombimardy: just to make sure, could you run the same tests for the trunk?07:23
dholbachgood morning07:23
mardyzsombi: just tried on trunk, it fails there as well07:45
zsombimardy: interesting... then why jenkins doesn't fail on that?!07:46
mardyzsombi: I wonder where that defaultGridUnit comes from... maybe it's device-specific?07:47
zsombimardy: yes, it is, depending on what you have defined in  GRID_UNIT_PX env var07:51
mardyzsombi: oh, here it's GRID_UNIT_PX=1807:53
mardyzsombi: should I unset it, or set it to 8?07:53
zsombimardy perhaps for the test we should set it for that value, but honestly the test should be fixed.07:53
zsombimardy: so, I'll let your MR approved, however I'm wondering whether Jenkins works or still has problems...07:54
zsombimardy: top approved07:54
mardyzsombi: thanks; in fact, running "GRID_UNIT_PX=8 make check" passes all the tests07:55
zsombimardy: I know, it's just the test is not realistic then :)07:56
zsombimardy now let's see what jenkins will do about07:57
JamesTaitGood morning all, happy Friday the 13th and happy Programmers' Day! :-D08:17
labsinMy app 'Solitaire Games' is released on the click store. But I have no phone that supports Ubuntu Touch. It would be really nice if there was someone that wants to test it and give feedback.08:20
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zsombimardy: uh, I need your branch landed!!! I started to get those segfaults in theme engine tests :D08:25
mardyzsombi: hehe :-)08:26
loolcan't believe all apps have icons and I can add apps and launch all apps in v45!08:50
loolnow testing mir08:50
loolgreyback: hey08:52
greybacklool: hi there08:52
loolgreyback: I'm getting less cases of double listing of apps08:53
loolgreyback: did you find anything worth fixing yesterday?08:54
dbarthhi is there a phablet-flash flag to install the latest /untested/ images?08:56
dbarthi'd like to test the click fixes in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20130913/08:56
looldbarth: --channel daily-proposed08:57
greybacklool: not regarding the double-listing anyway. I know what is happening though, when qtubuntu launches the click app, it gets a PID. But that PID is of the aa_exec script. That script executes the actual application with the desktop_file_hint and a new PID. So shell things there's 2 instances of the app running08:57
dbarthnice, thanks lool08:57
looldbarth: if you really want the cdimage images, use --pending08:57
looldbarth: but we've mostly moved to system-images now08:57
dbarthgreyback: oh so that's a false positive, there's just 1 instance running?08:57
dbarthcool, so one down as well08:57
greybackdbarth: correct08:58
dbarthgreyback: i'll test your qtubuntu fixes now08:58
dbarthi think they went into the image08:58
greybackthey did08:58
dbarthaccording to the manifest08:58
dbarthsuper08:58
loolgreyback: hmm that's odd, I dont see aa processes here08:58
loolgreyback: I have e.g. sudoku launched, and it shows up as enforce mode in aa-status, but I see no aa-* processes08:58
greybacklool: yep, it's gone. But qtubuntu launches what's in the desktop file (which is aa_exec), and gets a PID back. The PID of the app is always higher, aa_exec must spawn the app and then die08:59
greybackI'll try to get it fixed today anyway09:01
xperiahi all. i am trying to port ubuntu to my android device but i am stuck at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting#Enabling_a_new_device09:05
xperiaI have all the source code for the Device as a zip Directory and my question is how can i merge the source code of the device with its driver together with the ubuntu touch source code. WOuld be great if somebody could help me so ubuntu touch works on one more device.09:05
xnoxdbarth: o/09:48
popeycjwatson: do we have the ability to remove click packages (nicely) yet?10:49
WebbyITbecause if I press on "Uninstall" the app is launched10:50
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cjwatsonpopey: yes, as of click 0.4.4.  the UI may not be there yet10:52
cjwatsonpopey: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-appstore-developers/msg00553.html10:52
cjwatsonpopey: I didn't give the pkcon interface there but it's "pkcon remove <PackageKit ID>"10:53
popeythanks!10:53
cjwatson(you'll generally need to quote the ID)10:53
zsombimardy: I'm afraid your MR won't land in trunk today10:57
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cjwatsonWebbyIT: I certainly wouldn't exclude bugs at the scope level, but it should be fine in the underlying tools11:00
WebbyITcjohnston, ok, thanks :)11:00
* cjwatson != cjohnston11:01
frekaHello11:23
frekatrying to install touch-coreapps, but it deosnt work.11:24
frekagetting The following packages have unmet dependencies:  touch-coreapps : Depends: ubuntu-docviewer-app but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems,11:25
sil2100gatox: hi!11:45
gatoxsidnei, hi11:45
gatoxsidnei, sorry11:45
gatoxsil2100, hi11:45
sil2100gatox: could we change the driver and maintainer for clickmanager-plugin? So that it's more 'team based'11:46
sil2100Ah, wait11:46
sil2100I see it is now11:46
sil2100gatox: so, can we at least change the bzr branch as well?11:46
gatoxsidnei, the answer is yes.... but i'm not really sure how to do that :P (i don't have much experience managing project in launchpad), can you tell me how to do it?11:47
sidneigatox: you paniced me for a second there11:47
sil2100gatox: could you change the trunk lp:clickmanager-plugin to point to lp:~ubuntuone-hackers/clickmanager-plugin/trunk ?11:47
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sil2100gatox: hm, I could do that for you but it seems I'm not part of ~ubuntuone-hackers ;) First of all just do a bzr branch lp:clickmanager-plugin; cd clickmanager-plugin; bzr push lp:~ubuntuone-hackers/clickmanager-plugin/trunk11:48
gatoxsil2100, in configure code hosting?11:48
sil2100gatox: this way you'll have the branch ready in the ~ubuntuone-hackers team11:49
gatoxsil2100, ack, doing that11:49
sil2100gatox: then go to the main LP page of the project, under Series and milestones click trunk11:49
sil2100gatox: there under 'Code for this series' change the branch to the newly pushed lp:~ubuntuone-hackers/clickmanager-plugin/trunk ;)11:50
sil2100gatox: I have packaging ready, I'll just change the links to the new branch11:50
gatoxack! :D11:50
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sil2100gatox: I had to change the qmake file hierarchy a bit though! Hope you don't mind :)11:51
gatoxsil2100, no, go ahead11:51
sil2100But at least now it builds and executes tests on build11:51
gatoxsil2100, awesome11:52
gatoxsil2100, is in any ppa or anything so i can test it from scratch in a new flashed tablet?11:52
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sil2100gatox: I can push it somewhere when needed :)11:53
gatoxsil2100, great, thanks..... i just updated clickmanager-plugin.... now i'll update updatemanager11:54
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timppaHi! I've just flashed todays build to my nexus 4. Should the Music scope play song that are on phone? Videos don't show up at all anymore11:55
timppaAlso sounds don't work at all at the moment except from Music player.app11:57
gatoxsil2100, if it's not much trouble... could you upload the packages somewhere..... so i can do a final test on the device and make sure that everything behaves as it should? (if it's not possible right now, don't worry.... i'll find another way to test it)11:58
gatoxsil2100, also.... updatemanager has been updated too with the changes you just requested11:59
gatoxsil2100, thanks for the heads up11:59
sil2100\o/12:00
sil2100Thanks!12:00
gatoxsil2100, also.... last question :P are you creating the bot to land the branches automatically? (i'm kind of confuse with that part)12:02
gatoxin jenkins12:02
gatoxfor the MPs12:02
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sil2100gatox: we'll take care of that as well - we need to add it to our config and then have fginther do all the magic12:02
sil2100But I'll take care of that after lunch :)12:02
cwaynehey look, click package icons are working!12:02
gatoxsil2100, awesome, thanks!! i really appreciate it12:03
sil2100gatox: np. ;)12:03
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rickspencer3anyone know why last night's image was not promoted?12:16
loolbeuno: I think we should eventually reject apps without an Icon=qmlscene or no Icon in the .desktop (IOW I dont think this type of bugs falls into the "users will give bad ratings" category)12:19
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beunolool, yeah, I think it our system can deal with no icon, we should let them (and let people decide they suck :))12:21
rickspencer3maybe QtCreator could warn the user when they are building a package12:21
loolthat too12:21
loolbeuno: it can deal with it, but it's super ugly12:21
loolbeuno: Not sure we'd want to allow that through12:21
rickspencer3the QtCreator experience needs to be full linked up to the Touch experience12:21
beunolool, or we could make it less ugly maybe?12:21
loolbeuno: it's going to be ugly if multiple apps use the same display12:22
beunorickspencer3, right, that could be a better time to tell people to improve it12:22
loolpeople lookup apps by their icon before reading the fine print12:22
loolif you have 3 Ubuntu default icons, it's painful12:22
loolso I think we shouldn't let it happen12:22
loolsergiusens: hey!12:24
rickspencer3maybe on the server, if there is no icon, we can swap in the icon that the developer provides to the web page12:24
rickspencer3?12:24
sergiusenslool, hey12:24
cjwatsondpm: bug 1223891 - click is probably the wrong place for this.  Do you have (or does anyone else have) an idea for a package which would be in a position of consuming MIME types that could install such a system hook?12:24
loolsergiusens: do you know what held the image from promotion yesterday?12:25
loolsergiusens: Mir and Click stuff passed for me!  (lots of tearing when I enable Mir though)12:25
ubot5`bug 1223891 in click (Ubuntu) "Allow click packages to register as mimetype handlers" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122389112:25
loolcjwatson: hmm was it shared-mime-info on the desktop?12:26
sergiusenslool, well unity-mir was published 2 - 3 hours after our conversation, then we kicked of a cdimage build and after that there were some issues with utah (from what I read in the channel)12:26
sergiusenslool, but the results look good, just don't think anyone was awake by then to promote it12:26
cjwatsonlool: Possibly.  shared-mime-info is mostly delivering a bulk set of standard MIME types, though, rather than being the thing that consumes them, if you see what I mean12:26
dpmcjwatson, I don't know, I generally defer to the desktop guys when it comes to mime types. Perhaps Laney knows the best place to file that bug? ^12:26
cjwatsonMind you, shared-mime-info also ships update-mime-database etc.12:26
sergiusensdpm, what is this for?12:27
sergiusenscjwatson, dpm if it's handler it should go in ted's uri-handler code12:28
dpmsergiusens, not sure, I can't recall if the reporter gave some more context on IRC, sorry12:28
cjwatsonI basically don't want to be involved in this unless it actually requires extensions to click :)12:28
rickspencer3sergiusens, so you can promote the image this morning? \o/12:28
cjwatsonMy job here is to provide enough rope for other packages to hang themselves with in the appropriate way12:28
sergiusenscjwatson, you shouldn't12:28
loolcjwatson: ah right12:29
sergiusenslool, tearing on mir on maguro is known, that's one of the reasons it's not the default12:29
loolsergiusens: it's on mako though12:30
cwaynebtw messaging indicator is still missing on today's daily-proposed12:31
lool-rw-r----- 1 phablet whoopsie 15904143 Sep 13 12:21 _usr_bin_unity8.32011.crash12:34
* lool whistles12:34
ev:D12:34
loolcwayne: which is normal until we promote it I guess12:34
cwaynelool, ah, thanks :)12:35
loolev: how can I track submission by whoopsie or force it?12:35
loolcwayne: basically all landings are on manual12:35
loolI guess things will move when asac comes up and acks promotion of current image so that we can move on to the next landing (indicators)12:36
cwaynewait so we're going to promote an image with missing indicators?12:36
loolcwayne: oh you mean it got inadvertedly removed?12:36
cwaynelool, i mean i've got todays daily-proposed image, and i dont have a messaging indicator12:37
loolcwayne: that seems anormal then; is this a regression over the current stable/daily image?12:37
evlool: take the sha512 hash of your system uuid and put it on the end of https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/12:37
cwaynelool, the latest stable daily i tried yesterday has it12:37
evI'll come up with a command. Bear with me12:37
cwaynebut the daily-proposed from yesterday was missing it as well12:37
loolThe indicator package is in the image, not sure why it doesn't display: ii  indicator-messages                                    13.10.1+13.10.20130903-0ubuntu1             armhf        indicator that collects messages that need a response12:37
cwaynelool, yeah, i have it as well, just not shown :/12:37
evlool: https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/`printf $(sudo cat /sys/class/dmi/id/product_uuid) | sha512sum`12:38
evoh actually12:38
evas I imagine this is a phone12:38
loolindeed12:39
loolno DMI12:39
evsudo gdbus call -y -d com.ubuntu.WhoopsiePreferences -o /com/ubuntu/WhoopsiePreferences -m com.ubuntu.WhoopsiePreferences.GetIdentifier12:39
loolnothing uploaded it seems12:39
evis there a .uploaded file?12:40
evin /var/crash12:40
loolhttps://errors.ubuntu.com/user/cf83e1357eefb8bdf1542850d66d8007d620e4050b5715dc83f4a921d36ce9ce47d0d13c5d85f2b0ff8318d2877eec2f63b931bd47417a81a538327af927da3e12:40
loolno12:40
loollet me put the phone closer to the AP12:40
loolI suspet network isn't reliable enough12:40
popeyev: i had two which didn't upload recently12:41
evyeah, whoopsie will drop a .uploaded file when it's done12:41
popeyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/122471012:42
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1224710 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport eating cpu" [Undecided,New]12:42
evpopey: oh? I vaguely recall you twiterring me and it getting lost in the noise of everyday life12:42
popeynp12:42
evI'll try to have a look in a minute - sprinting, so I can't promise my full attention this week12:42
cjohnstonev: answer my question too :-)12:42
evcjohnston: jerk12:42
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loolcjwatson: I think we would want a new app for what is described in the bug12:57
loolcjwatson: I've commented there, but I was thinking something like gdebi12:57
loolcjwatson: but you can declare the MIME type rules already, like apport does12:57
cjwatsonlool: I honestly don't see how that's related to this bug12:57
loolthis is just to explain that .click is a click package, and/or that files which start with this byte sequence are click packages12:58
cjwatsonlool: Er, we already have a MIME type declaration for click itself12:58
cjwatsonlool: The bug reporter is asking for a way to ship additional handlers for other types in click packages12:58
loolcjwatson: oh gosh, I read this wrong, I thought this was about installing clicks12:59
cjwatsonNot AFAICS12:59
loolcjwatson: you're totally right12:59
loolI'm a bit ashamed with the mess I am these days12:59
plarsballoons: calculator got the new package, but still fails :(13:00
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loolcjwatson: at the moment we don't have MIME handling defined, it's something we could discuss at next click weekly for instance; the current ways we thought of are the url handlers and the content hub / content providers stories13:01
loolbut MIME is a valid one13:01
MacSlowloicm, ping13:03
balloonsplars, lolololol13:03
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balloonsplars, I was trying to ping you the new design for calculator landed so you can <3 it now13:04
davmor2morning all13:06
loicmMacSlow: pong13:09
MacSlowloicm, see priv. message13:09
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cjohnstoncwayne: what device do you not have indicators?13:12
loolgreyback: did we add some unit tests to prevent the qtubuntu stuff from happening again (at build time)?13:12
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cwaynecjohnston, mako13:13
greybacklool: qtubuntu is missing tests entirely unfortunately. It has to be done, but other things have always been higher priority13:13
cjohnstoncwayne: plars and I both tried with mako13:13
cjohnstonno issues13:13
cwaynecjohnston, i havent had it in a couple days..13:14
cwaynedoes it maybe not show up unless there is a message or something?13:14
cjohnstoncwayne: all indicators?13:14
cwaynei mean i did a fresh flash with --no-backup13:14
cwaynecjohnston, other ones are fine13:14
cwaynejust messaging13:14
loolgreyback: that's quite unfortunate13:16
cwaynecjohnston, you tried with mako on today's daily-proposed?13:17
plarscwayne: yes, that's what we were running, and confirm the messaging one seems to  be gone13:18
cwayneplars, ah, ok good13:18
cwaynei thought i was taking crazy pills for a second13:18
davmor2cwayne: txt yourself you'll soon find out13:18
cwaynedavmor2, this is my only phone13:19
cwaynelol13:19
davmor2cwayne: yes text yourself, you send a text to your own number13:19
cwayneoh right13:19
davmor2cwayne: it's not like a phone call where it would be engaged :D13:19
plarscwayne, davmor2: cjohnston is trying that now13:20
plarshe just had to step outside so he could get a signal :)13:20
cwaynedavmor2, still no indicator13:20
greybacklool: 100% agreed. It needs to be done.13:20
cwayneplars, cjohnston ^13:21
cwaynetheres also a spot missing on the indicators panel13:21
cjohnstonI've confirmed it as well13:21
davmor2cwayne: I think it is the space between wifi and bluetooth13:21
cwayneyeah13:21
davmor2tedg: is this a known bug about the messaging indicator vanishing?13:26
davmor2tedg: Also ogra_ said to ask you about the big gap between wifi and bluetooth (that I am assuming is the space where the messaging indicator was)13:27
tedgdavmor2, Not sure, larsu? ^13:27
larsudavmor2, tedg: no known bug, but there are a lot of changes waiting to land (in both indicator-messages and unity8's indicator code).13:28
larsuso please wait with filing bugs until that landed13:28
davmor2larsu: no worries, cwayne, cjohnston  ^13:28
cwaynedavmor2, ack, thanks13:29
cjohnstonlarsu: we are trying to decide about releasing13:29
cwaynemterry, pingaling13:29
ogra_stgraber, if i want to make a file removable on the ro image, what would be the runes for the config, does that work by just making it writable ?13:29
davmor2mterry: cwayne is trying to be cute there so don't respond!  Run, run for your life, be afraid, it won't be pleasant :D13:30
cwaynedavmor2, :P13:30
cwaynedavmor2, i think most people run when i ping at this point13:31
mterrycwayne, hi13:32
mterry:)13:32
cwaynemterry, hey, i was just wondering if you had any insight on when accountsservice is actually started13:32
mterrycwayne, it's started by dbus activation13:32
cwaynemterry, we're trying to run that command you sent to change the welcome screen in an upstart job, but 'start on started dbus' is too early apparently13:32
GuidoPallemanscan anyone here test my click package?13:33
cwaynemterry, start on started dbus gives us this Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface 'org.freedesktop.Accounts.User' on object at path /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User3201113:33
tedglarsu, Yeah, I'm kinda curious if some landed and some didn't.  The state of things is so confusing right now.13:33
mterrycwayne, oh!  You know, sometimes when it is dbus-activated, it doesn't process the command that activated it (seem to be some bug with AS itself).  What happens if you run the same command twice?13:33
cwaynemterry, let me edit the job and see.. if you run it manually after upstart it works, but it always worked manually13:34
tedgmterry, One of the joys of dbus activation actually :-/13:34
cwaynelet me see what happens if you run twice in upstart13:34
mterrytedg, is that common?13:34
GuidoPallemanscan anyone here test my reversi app on a touch device? I don't have any and I don't know if the package will work on one: http://www.mediafire.com/download/rg7zeadj0vqungu/be.geelen.bram.reversi_1.0_all.click13:35
tedgmterry, If you start up infinitely fast there are no issues :-)13:35
tedgmterry, Depends on the service it seems, I haven't experienced it a lot, but most of the service I use are just doing activate at session start.  The Novacut guys report a lot of issues with it.13:35
tedgmterry, Also most of ours are C based, I imagine Python is more an issue as well.13:36
cwaynemterry, didn't seem to work13:38
mterrycwayne, :(13:40
davmor2ogra_: so the 13 image does that have mir on it by default?13:40
cwaynemterry, weird, it only shows the error in the log once, but it doesnt seem to work, as its supposed to touch a file in $HOME thats not there13:41
mterryogra_, heyo, do you figure we can land the lightdm bits now?13:41
mterrycwayne, the upstart job touches the file?13:41
gatoxsil2100, do we need someone else to review this? https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/clickmanager-plugin/first_packaging/+merge/18547613:41
cwaynemterry, yeah13:42
mterrycwayne, this is a system upstart job, right?  Not a session upstart one?  Can you pastebin me, just in case you forgot to plug the machine in or something13:42
cwaynemterry, it's a session one, let me try it as a system one13:43
mterrycwayne, well, if in session, you might have policykit issues because my branch fixing logind hasn't landed yet13:45
cwaynemterry, but would a polkit issue cause that dbus error?13:46
cwaynemaybe since it shouldnt be allowed to see it..13:46
sergiusensstgraber, you around?13:46
loolasac: Did you get my updates on testing?  click status is quite good in latest pending image; I filed a bunch of bugs which were longstanding but were lesser priority than the critical issues we were seeing13:47
loolasac: also the Mir touch thing worked13:47
cjwatsonGuidoPallemans: (a) It's built with a very old version of click - you should use at least 0.4.3; (b) it doesn't have any hooks, so no desktop file gets installed, so your app can't be launched13:47
sergiusensdavmor2, touch /home/phablet/.display-mir and reboot to get it. Delete the file and reboot to switch back13:47
mterrycwayne, I forget what you see with the policykit error13:48
davmor2sergiusens: oh nice thanks13:48
cjwatsonGuidoPallemans: Upgrading to a newer version of the SDK should hopefully help13:48
mterrycwayne, but it's odd that you only saw one error13:48
cwaynemterry, making it a system one doesn't work either13:48
mterrysergiusens, do I need to update via an image or is apt-get upgrade good enough?13:48
mterrycwayne, can I see the job?13:48
cwaynemterry, yeah let me pastebinit13:49
ogra_mterry, ask asac and jdstrand, it isnt in my hands13:49
mterryogra_, ok13:50
sergiusensmterry, for mir? You can apt-get upgrade I think and remove the QPA_PLATFORM line from /etc/environment13:50
cwaynemterry, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6101719/13:50
jdstrandmterry (and ogra): I was only asked to review the security impact. I don't really have anything to add beyond the email to ubuntu-devel@13:50
mterryasac, I believe you requested not to land the lightdm/logind change yet, until you had a new good image?  Can we land it soon?13:50
mterryjdstrand, that email seemed like it supposed we would never land my branch that fixes the policykit stuff...13:51
jdstrandmterry: I tried very hard to only discuss the current situation and not tie in lightdm landing. lightdm is not my call. sorry if I was unclear13:52
mterryjdstrand, sure13:52
sergiusenslool, maybe you can answer. Is it ok to extend ubuntu_commands to have a toggle to enable adb?13:53
mterrycwayne, oh I see, you want access to $HOME, so session upstart makes some sense13:54
cwaynemterry, wait, i'm an idiot, h/o13:54
cwaynemterry, plus it's really only setting this per user13:55
mterrycwayne, but since this is a lightdm greeter session, a session job will be too late for this13:55
cwaynemterry, ah, crap13:55
mterrycwayne, you also only have the dbus-send line once (I thought we were testing with it twice)13:55
cyphermoxdidrocks: there's some delay, I got Launchpad timeouts...13:55
cwaynemterry, oh yeah, i modified it on the device to do it twice but pasted from my branch13:55
mterryk13:56
didrockscyphermox: argh, all good now?13:56
mterrycwayne, I guess for now, while we still have a fake greeter, putting this in a user session job would be quick enough.13:56
didrockslike, everything cleaned-swapped?13:56
mterrycwayne, but you'd currently hit the policykit bug13:56
mterrycwayne, you also try to make this code generic, but hardcode User3201113:57
mterrycwayne, by any chance, I don't suppose the user you care about isn't 32011?13:57
cwaynemterry, no, it is13:57
cwaynephablet user is 3201113:57
mterryOK13:57
cwaynewe'd make it more generic, but unsure if we can yet.. we'd have to know any user's uid i think13:58
mhall119xnox: hey, can you help daker setup cross-compiling for is Ubuntu SDK app?13:58
mterrycwayne, yeah, you can get that info if you have $USER13:58
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mterrycwayne, which you would if you were in a session job.  But we long-term don't want to be in a session job13:58
cwaynemterry, ah, ok, but that'd need to be in a session one anyway then13:58
cyphermoxdidrocks: slowly, but surely13:58
loolsergiusens: hmm sure, that seems ok13:58
cyphermoxdidrocks: I hacked the remove_package script to go through packages.13:58
loolsergiusens: why does it need ubuntu_command actually?13:59
cwaynemterry, hm, so what's the real solution here?  we really just want to change the default13:59
mhall119or dholbach, can you help daker?13:59
dholbachmhhum, daker is not around?14:00
dholbachah, nevermind, my IRC client tricked me14:00
dholbachdaker, can you try http://pad.ubuntu.com/kYCIZSvOpF?14:00
dakerdholbach: o/14:00
didrocksasac: https://plus.google.com/110419250019099644591/posts/TUXwKU7FkRn14:00
didrockscyphermox: sweet!14:00
sergiusenslool, because once ubuntu_commands takes over it reboots when it's done and allows for no further interaction14:00
pmcgowanogra_, how does one enable ssh to start by default n the latest images?14:01
sergiusenspmcgowan, just delete the override file in /etc/init/14:01
pmcgowansergiusens, whats it called14:01
mterrycwayne, do you guys have the same greeter wallpaper default as you do for the shell?14:01
mterrycwayne, or do you want to default those two wallpapers to different values?14:01
mterrycwayne, do you guys have the same greeter wallpaper default as you do for the shell?  or do you want to default those two wallpapers to different values?14:02
sergiusenspmcgowan, /etc/init/ssh.override14:02
dakerdholbach: do i need an arm device to do that ?14:02
sergiusenspmcgowan, just delete that14:02
dholbachdaker, no14:02
asacmterry: certainly not today14:03
asacmterry: are you in the office?>14:03
dakerdholbach: do i need saucy to do that ?14:03
mterryasac, what's the blocker here?  What sort of good image are you looking for?14:03
mterryasac, no14:03
asacmterry: its not your turn14:03
xnoxmhall119: there is a branch from dholback that does a native compilation under qemu. maybe use that?14:03
asacmterry: and i have noone who can ensure your stuff lands regression free atm14:03
dholbachdaker, no, I don't think14:03
asacregression free == dashboard and dogfooding14:03
mterryasac, turn?14:03
cyphermoxdidrocks: so as soon as that's done getting the list of packages to remove, it will remove them, and I'll be able to start indicators and webapps14:04
asacmterry: we have other landings to do14:04
asacmterry: is it just uploading lightdm?14:04
mterryasac, btw, once https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/greeter-launch-apps/+merge/185333 we can write that unlock script you wanted14:04
asacor do you want to add it to the image?14:04
asacnice14:04
didrockscyphermox: thanks man14:04
mhall119xnox: dholbach is helping him now, thanks14:04
dakerdholbach: i'll try that tonight14:04
mterryasac, no lightdm has already been uploaded.  I need to land a ubuntu-touch-session change from upstart to lightdm-autologin (which will add lightdm to image, yes)14:05
dakerthanks xnox mhall11914:05
dholbachdaker, great, setup takes a bit to run, but afterwards you should be all set14:05
asacmterry: that has to wait14:05
mterryasac, are all landings done one by one now or are you just in a particularly sensitive time for QA?14:05
asachave noone to ensure that it doesnt regress because we are doing that for others14:05
cwaynemterry, right now they're the same, but i'm not sure they'll stay that way14:06
mterrycwayne, well if they are the same...  I could add some code so that the greeter could look at the gsettings key for its default, rather than hardcoding its default...14:06
cwaynemterry, the dconf key to keep them the same is already set as true14:06
asacmterry: there was a mail supposed to go out14:07
asacwill ensure it happens now14:07
pmcgowansergiusens, are you going to answer gerry's question on ssh? seems no one knows its in the image14:08
asacogra_: go14:08
asacpush14:08
asacogra_: unless you say your phone is frozen all the time14:09
asaclet me come around14:09
sergiusenspmcgowan, where is that question? I'm not using ssh, just found about that change yesterday14:09
pmcgowansergiusens, on phone list, I can reply if the answer is delete the override14:10
pmcgowanhe noticed the behavior changed and he was reinstalling and some other stuff14:10
cwaynemterry, well that should be the default based on what's selected in system settings14:10
cwaynemterry, theres a dconf key background-duplicate and its set to true by default14:10
sergiusenspmcgowan, let me get that14:10
rickspencer3hi cjwatson14:11
rickspencer3so, here's my saga14:11
cjwatsonhi14:11
sil2100gatox: if you approve the changes to the code, I'll have someone from my team to review the packaging ;)14:11
rickspencer3last night I rebooted my phone by holding down the power button14:11
gatoxsil2100, i already did14:11
gatoxapprove them14:11
rickspencer3when it came back up, my click apps were not running14:11
rickspencer3they were not in the installed scope14:11
rickspencer3they were in the more suggestions scope, but they would not install14:12
rickspencer3so, talking to ralsina I went through and deleted all the click apps from /opt/click. whatever14:12
cjwatson*blink* surprising thing for him to suggest14:12
rickspencer3then all the desktop files from /home/phablet/.local/share/click/hooks and /home/phablet/.local/share/applications14:13
ralsinacjwatson: well, I used to do that to clean up before there was uninstall. I guess I am outdated :-(14:13
rickspencer3oops, missed a step14:13
cjwatsonralsina: well, even then, why would uninstalling be necessary14:13
rickspencer3click list --manifest did not show all my apps14:13
ralsinacjwatson: I was trying to just clear things for resinstalling14:13
cjwatsonthere've been no recent format changes or anything14:13
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cjwatsonralsina: you can just reinstall over the top without that, normally14:13
cjwatsonrickspencer3: hm, I thought you said earlier that click list did show them14:14
rickspencer3cjwatson, when I tried to reinstall, I the apps seemed to install, but thye don't run14:14
rickspencer3cjwatson, click list showed them earlier this morning14:14
asacstgraber: can you fix the RO cronjob to run every minute instead once an hour?14:14
rickspencer3but not when I checked again for ralsina14:14
cjwatsonbefore you went through and removed them?14:14
cjwatsonalso, which user were you running click list as/14:15
cjwatson?14:15
rickspencer3cjwatson, yeah14:15
rickspencer3cjwatson, I ran it as the phablet user on my phone earlier14:15
rickspencer3but I suppose as root if I did it from adb14:15
cjwatsonright, you need to switch to the phablet user first14:15
cjwatsonclick list is user-sensitive14:15
rickspencer3oops14:15
* ralsina forgot to check that14:15
mterrycwayne, right...  it's probably best just to have it look at gsettings as a backup for now... that will cover the both-backgrounds-are-the-same case cleanly for you14:15
rickspencer3cjwatson, anyway, I could install a click app, but when I run it I get an error:14:16
rickspencer3No manifest found for app_id: com.ubuntu.developer.rick-rickspencer3.franglish14:16
cjwatson(that's mentioned in the man page now, though click having a man page is a recent thing)14:16
rickspencer3so, that's where I am at now14:16
asaccjwatson: hey. can you run an RO run? (hoping that this will pick up our /current promition)14:16
asaccjwatson: nevermind14:16
cjwatsonseems to be running at the moment14:16
rickspencer3cjwatson, so my goal now is to get back to a sane state and then try to reproduce the issue14:17
cjwatsonrickspencer3: ok, can you pastebin "click list --manifest" as the phablet user?14:17
rickspencer3ok14:17
cjwatson"su - phablet" or whatever is fine, from adb14:17
ogra_stgraber, i'm running the system-image bits from crontab manually atm ...14:17
asacrickspencer3: sergiusens will send a mail how to flash latest to test mir14:18
cjwatsonrickspencer3: last time I saw that error it was because the file name of the click package was out of sync with the package name inside it14:18
sergiusensasac, rickspencer3 already out14:18
cjwatsonbut perhaps there are other causes14:18
asacsergiusens: rock!14:18
rickspencer3cjwatson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6101810/14:18
rickspencer3I guess I did something very wrong :)14:19
cjwatsonwow14:19
cjwatsonuh, one moment :)14:19
cjwatsonrickspencer3: I think that you perhaps did "rm -rf /opt/click.ubuntu.com/*" earlier - would that be correct?14:19
rickspencer3cjwatson, maybe this is what you wanted14:20
rickspencer3http://paste.ubuntu.com/6101813/14:20
rickspencer3?14:20
rickspencer3cjwatson, correct, I did that bad thing :)14:20
cjwatsonrickspencer3: There's also a /opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click directory, and * doesn't expand to include .click14:20
cwaynemterry, i think we will eventually need to clean up the different-backgrounds case as well, but that will certainly be a good start i think14:20
cjwatsonrickspencer3: So you now have that in a strange inconsistent state14:20
rickspencer3cjwatson, ok14:20
cjwatsonralsina: Don't recommend this again :)14:20
rickspencer3lol14:20
ralsinacjwatson: oh yeah14:20
rickspencer3cjwatson, can I just go on an rm fest to get back to a non-inconsistent state?14:21
cjwatsonrickspencer3: Now that you're at this point, probably best to rm -rf /opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click, and then reinstall any apps you reinstalled since14:21
cjwatsonNo need to remove other things in /opt/click.ubuntu.com/ again - reinstalling will be enough14:21
rickspencer3cjwatson, do I need to delete desktop files and stuff too?14:21
cwaynemterry, so just to summarize: the reason the session job isn't working now is because of polkit issues, and the job *should* be a system job anyway?14:21
cjwatsonrickspencer3: no14:21
* rickspencer3 tries14:21
cjwatsonrickspencer3: and "sudo click list --manifest" just lists the preinstalled apps, so not relevant here14:21
rickspencer3cjwatson, acl14:21
rickspencer3ack, even :)14:22
cjwatson(which are installed for all users, so you get a response when trying to list for any user)14:22
rickspencer3ralsina, is there a way for me to force More Suggestion to reload?14:22
rickspencer3hmmm, I wonder if I deleted all the pre-installed apps too :o14:23
mterrycwayne, short term, session job is fine (if it weren't for policykit bug); long term, it needs to be a system job (because greeter will be separate then, and user sees greeter before the user logs in)14:23
cyphermoxrsalveti: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/mtp/relicense/+merge/18550814:24
cwaynemterry, ack thanks.  so next steps are having the background use a sane default to gsettings key?14:24
cjwatsonrickspencer3: You will have deleted the .desktop files for the preinstalled apps, but restarting your session will be enough to restore those14:25
rickspencer3cjwatson, ok14:25
rickspencer3I just did adb reboot14:25
rickspencer3so I assume that counts as restarted the session14:26
cjwatsonAssuming you're on a RO image, you can't delete the preinstalled apps themselves14:26
cjwatsonYeah14:26
cjwatson(And they aren't in /opt/click.ubuntu.com anyway)14:26
mterrycwayne, yah, working on that now14:26
rickspencer3cjwatson, uh, weird, so it seems to think that Franglish is still installed14:26
barrymandel: ping14:27
rickspencer3though, phablet@ubuntu-phablet:/$ click list --manifest | grep angl14:27
mandelbarry, pong14:27
cjwatsonrickspencer3: The scope is working off the presence of .desktop files, probably14:28
rickspencer3ok14:28
cjwatsonrickspencer3: But we should try to get everything back into sync, so just reinstall your franglish app14:28
mandelbarry, I've seen the bugs you reported, I think that bug #1224676 and bug #1224678 are the same guy14:28
ogra_asac, its still running :/14:28
ubot5`bug 1224676 in ubuntu-download-manager "Downloader stops working after first download" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122467614:28
ubot5`bug 1224678 in ubuntu-download-manager "md5sum of downloaded .tgz file is incorrect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122467814:28
rickspencer3cjwatson, I can't reinstall it from the scope14:28
cjwatsonrickspencer3: pkcon install-local foo.click14:29
cjwatsonas phablet14:29
rickspencer3because More Suggestions thinks it's installed14:29
cjwatsonthe scope is probably fairly horribly confused :)14:29
mandelbarry, bug #1224641 is a known issues :)14:29
ubot5`bug 1224641 in ubuntu-download-manager "Local fs destination is ignored in group downloads" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122464114:29
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cjwatsonI think the scope has to work off the presence of .desktop files to some extent for performance rather than polling "click list", so it probably gets rather confused when those mismatch14:30
rickspencer3cjwatson,14:30
rickspencer3phablet@ubuntu-phablet:/$ pkcon install-local franglish.click14:30
rickspencer3Installing files              [=========================]14:30
rickspencer3Fatal error: could not resolve: franglish.click14:30
rickspencer3?14:30
rickspencer3do I need to qualify the package name better?14:30
stgraberasac: that's part of what will change with the rewrite14:32
stgraberasac: if we do that change before then, that'll just lead to dataloss14:32
cjwatsonrickspencer3: one moment14:32
rickspencer3cjwatson, it's in click list now if I run as the phablet user14:32
stgraberogra_: be very very careful not to have a cron-triggered one run at the same time as a manually triggered one or we'll loose data14:32
rickspencer3cjwatson, sure, take your time14:32
asacstgraber: kk14:32
rickspencer3cjwatson, oh, that last thing I said was a lie14:33
mhall119happy birthday didrocks!14:33
cjwatsonrickspencer3: "could not resolve" here literally means "file doesn't exist"14:33
didrocksmhall119: thanks a lot! :)14:33
cjwatsonrickspencer3: Maybe it's in the phablet user's home directory and you need to change to that?14:33
cjwatson"su - phablet" normally sets your homedir14:33
cjwatson"su phablet" won't14:33
ogra_stgraber, yeah14:34
rickspencer3cjwatson, I think you mean this:14:34
rickspencer3http://paste.ubuntu.com/6101870/14:34
mhall119didrocks: cjwatson: is there a list of Qt/QML packages that are part of the "Ubuntu 13.10 platform" that Click packages can target?14:35
rickspencer3oops, nm, wrong one14:35
ogra_stgraber, seems to run fine though, i see the json file being updated and the new image shows up in daily  (the run still hasnt finished though)14:35
rickspencer3cjwatson, I meant this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6101874/14:35
mhall119popey: are the music core app devs working on qt-grilo?14:35
cjwatsonmhall119: Not my call.14:36
mhall119cjwatson: I was looking more for knowledge than decision :)14:36
didrocksmhall119: the apps stack14:37
mhall119didrocks: and do we have a definition of what that is?14:37
popeymhall119: define "working on"?14:37
didrocksfetching a link14:37
cjwatsonmhall119: Bug 1219185 should be fixed by adding that declaration to a top-level package14:37
ubot5`bug 1219185 in qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu "Framework "ubuntu-sdk-13.10" not present on system" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121918514:37
cyphermoxdidrocks: stuff is still in Packages... :/ I'm still waiting before starting the builds for indicator and webapps14:37
mhall119context: I'm putting all of the APIs into the new API website, and I need to know which packages' docs to include14:37
ogra_stgraber, so my other issue is that we now ship ssh by default but with an .override in place so it does not autostart ... i would like to make the .override removable, will the system-image setup cope with that ?14:37
cjwatsonbzoltan closed that bug in error14:37
didrockscyphermox: give me a green light once the removal is published, I'm going to track that and note times14:38
cyphermoxsure14:38
davmor2mhall119: wouldn't dpkg -l | grep qt give you a pretty comprehensive list?14:38
ogra_asac, DONE !14:38
cyphermoxdidrocks: my script is still listing stuff, and looking at the file directly it's till full. hoping the removals will get published soon14:38
mhall119davmor2: it'll give me a list of what I *have*14:38
asacogra_: how long did this take?14:38
ogra_rickspencer3, happy upgrading14:38
asac20 minutes?14:38
didrockscyphermox: let's count times14:38
ogra_asac, over 30min14:38
asacwow14:39
mhall119davmor2: which isn't at all the same as what I should expect on a default image14:39
asacogra_: do you hvae timestamps of start and end?14:39
ogra_so the 1h is realistic if you want to make sure to not step on your own shoes14:39
asacogra_: please record them somewhere and send them to ev14:39
attentehas anyone experience with dataChanged() and data() in QAbstract{Item,List}Model?14:39
didrocksmhall119: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cupstream2distro-maintainers/cupstream2distro-config/trunk/view/head:/stacks/saucy/apps.cfg14:39
stgraberogra_: there's unfortunately no way to remove files from a read-only system. I think in this specific case, your best bet is to have something toggle the content of the override from say "manual" to "" and just have that file marked writable.14:39
mhall119thanks didrocks14:39
ogra_asac, i dont have exact ones but i started it around 10min past the hour14:39
asacogra_: ok. invent them14:40
asacand send them14:40
didrocksmhall119: yw14:40
asac:)14:40
stgraberogra_: if you really want to see a file gone, the closest thing you can do is have it point to a broken symlink (which gives you ENOFILE back on access, so pretty similar to removal)14:40
popeyboiko: can you see me typing? ☻14:40
cjwatsonrickspencer3: Are you sure that that file actually exists?  Did you tab-complete it?14:40
popeyboiko: in the chat in G+14:40
cyphermoxdidrocks: last update of the files was at 14h22 ; we should see it anytime now14:40
cjwatsonrickspencer3: It might be a dangling symlink?14:40
ogra_stgraber, hmm14:41
boikopopey: yep, I saw that :)14:41
davmor2mhall119: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6101895/  that is from a fresh flash  doing phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel=daily-proposed --no-backup14:42
davmor2mhall119: that might help some at least :)14:42
mhall119davmor2: thanks,but I think the link didrocks gave me is the definitive one14:42
davmor2mhall119: ah no worries14:43
rickspencer3cjwatson, I am not sure14:43
* rickspencer3 tries14:43
rickspencer3cjwatson, it's not there14:43
* rickspencer3 grovels around directory14:43
mhall119just updated my phone and I have no messaging menu :(14:43
cjohnstonmhall119: known14:44
mhall119but I do have icons now for most of my click apps, so that's a win14:44
mhall119cjohnston: is there a bug for that?14:44
cjohnstonmhall119: not atm... working on it14:44
davmor2mhall119: no because there is a load of stuff that needs to land14:44
mhall119cjohnston: can you paste me the bug # once you have it?14:45
cjohnstonack14:45
mhall119davmor2: no to what?14:45
cjohnstonmhall119: the bug14:45
davmor2mhall119: no bug14:45
mhall119ok14:45
mhall119popey: getting back to qt-grilo, I'd like to get somebody to put together qdoc config files for it,so I can generate API docs and get them on the new site14:49
popeymhall119: ahh, okay, I don't know how much they've looked at qt-grillo tbh, might be worth pinging them. not like they have anything better to do :þ14:53
davmor2sergiusens: I've enabled mir and now it appears that my phone is refusing to go to sleep14:53
cjohnstonmhall119: alesage bug #122501714:55
ubot5`bug 1225017 in indicator-messages (Ubuntu) "Messaging indicator missing from indicator bar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122501714:55
cjohnstonplars: ^14:55
mhall119thanks cjohnston14:55
pmcgowandavmor2, correct, powerd is not hooked up when in mir mode14:56
cjwatsonrickspencer3: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/click/+bug/1225023 FWIW14:58
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1225023 in click (Ubuntu) "Manually removing packages without removing user symlinks causes chaos" [Medium,Triaged]14:58
mfischlool: we landed 1 more fix last night to u-touch-customization-hooks14:59
cwaynemfisch, the d/install one?15:00
mfischcwayne: yeah15:01
rickspencer3cjwatson, thanks for the bug15:02
davmor2pmcgowan: ah okay thanks15:02
rickspencer3fwiw, you don't even want to know the chaos I am inflicting on my poor phone now15:02
rickspencer3:)15:02
rickspencer3I think I see smoke coming out of it15:02
cwaynecjwatson, re: the /custom clickapps, can we not have apparmor look in /custom/var/lib/apparmor for profiles?15:03
cjwatsoncwayne: That's up to jdstrand and his team15:03
cjwatsoncwayne: But I'd be a lot happier not doing that, and instead having the postinst-style script after image application15:03
cwaynecjwatson, fair enough, was just trying to see if that was a potential solution :)15:04
cjwatsoncwayne: Because in general I think it is a Very Bad Idea to require increasing the set of directories various things have to look in every time we add another click database15:04
mhall119I seem to have duplicates of all of the webapps, why is that/15:04
jdstrandI would also prefer not doing that. we are not particularly happy with /var/lib/apparmor in the first place15:04
cjwatsoncwayne: The design of click hooks is trying to keep things as low-cost as possible for the system being integrated with15:04
mhall119corection, I have triplicates of webapps, duplicates of all click apps15:05
mhall119alecu: is there a bug already for the duplicate click app entries?15:06
ogra_rickspencer3, thats fine as long as it isnt the "magic smoke"15:06
rickspencer3:)15:07
cjwatsonmhall119: Bug 122493815:08
ubot5`bug 1224938 in unity-scope-click (Ubuntu) "Click apps listed twice on home screen in "installed apps"" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122493815:08
AskUbuntuUbuntu Touch music file types | http://askubuntu.com/q/34513115:09
mhall119sergiusens: are the webapps being installed twice in the default images?15:12
mhall119once as deb and again a click?15:12
mhall119that would explain why I have 3 of each of those15:12
mterrycwayne, how do I change the normal shell background?  I tried the following, but it didn't make a visible difference: sudo -u phablet dbus-launch gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri /usr/share/backgrounds/background_3.png15:13
cwayneit has to be picture-uri file:/path/to/image15:13
cwayneit might need a reboot, im not sure15:14
rickspencer3cjwatson, ralsina ftr, I got it all back up again15:14
mterrycwayne, a reboot did it.  odd15:16
mhall119anybody on the latest system image able to launch the default icons in the Launcher?15:16
cwaynemhall119, yeah15:16
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mhall119https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/122502815:17
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1225028 in Unity 8 "Can't launch any of the default icons on the Launcher" [Undecided,New]15:17
davmor2pmcgowan, kgunn: I have enable mir on my maguro the screen has locked completely what info is useful to collect and from where?15:18
cjwatsonrickspencer3: Great15:18
wellsbmhall119: I'm experiencing the same bug you described15:18
mterrycwayne, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/greeter-wallpaper-fallback/+merge/18552615:19
davmor2actually never mind it might just be the empty adressbook at 132% cpu that is doing it15:21
davmor2pmcgowan ^15:21
kgunndavmor2: can you describe exactly what you flashed? did you use -b or --wipe? did you use pending cdimage? did you dist-upgrade the device after flashing? did you modify the environment file & remove surf flinger?15:21
kgunndavmor2: oh...ok...i'll asume you're ok unless you ping again15:22
cwaynemzanetti, any chance we could get a review on this? https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/greeter-wallpaper-fallback/+merge/185526 (or anyone else that could do it)15:23
kdubgreyback, any insight on that !isEmpty() assertion i was seeing yesterday?15:24
kdubhappened when I compiled from lp:unity8 too15:24
xnoxogra_: please help =)))15:24
xnoxchvt: can't open console15:24
xnoxCouldn't find data partition. Spawning adbd ...15:24
greybackkdub: flash latest update, that problem will go away. I've no idea what caused it though15:25
greybackit was something wrong with the environment though, possibly QPA plugins missing15:26
cjohnstondavmor2: I do seem to have the same sleep issue as you on mir15:26
mterryCimi, what's the latest on first-boot setup?15:27
kdubgreyback, thanks15:27
Cimimterry, there's a branch15:28
davmor2kgunn: phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel=daily-proposed --no-backup, did touch /home/phablet/.display-mir and enabled wifi as 3g is still suck for me.  Then just played around with the phone launching contacts from the launcher seems to disagree with the screen though15:28
* rickspencer3 starts downloading latest update 15:28
Cimimterry, https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/ubuntu-system-settings/welcome-wizard15:28
Cimimterry, needs wifi plugin before continuing15:29
mterryCimi, doesn't look like anyone has reviewed15:30
loolmfisch: I can't see my own commits in lp:ubuntu-touch-customization-hooks, what happened?15:30
loolmfisch: how did you do the merges?15:30
Cimimterry, because it's not ready15:30
Cimimterry, it is missing wifi plugin15:30
Cimimterry, I am waiting for it15:31
mterryCimi, OK, cool.  Just wanted to make sure it wasn't languishing without timely reviews15:31
mfischlool: I added you to the team, but what I did was merge your stuff into mine and then push it up, so your old MP from 2 weeks ago is included15:31
mterryCimi, who's doing the wifi bits?15:31
Cimimterry, ted15:31
mterryCimi, cool15:31
mterryrobru, so...  about those MIRs of yours15:31
mterryrobru, we still want cordova in?15:32
loolmfisch: well you haven't bzr merged it15:33
loolmfisch: you might have taken the changes and committed them manually15:33
loolmfisch: but a) https://code.launchpad.net/~lool/ubuntu-touch-customization-hooks/xdg-data-dirs/+merge/184157 is still Needs review (wouldn't be if the revisions had been merged)  and b) the current trunk branch misses the tags (try bzr tags on it)15:34
davmor2kgunn: oh and I pinned the terminal to the launcher15:34
rickspencer3lool, slangasek can I assume it's a bad sign if I downloaded the last update, but my phone is unresponsive, and top shows apport as taking up a CPU core?15:36
eveep.15:36
* rickspencer3 tries install and update15:36
mhall119Kaleo: where is the branch for the 'extras' package of the ubuntu-ui-toolkit?15:37
mfischlool: yes, I did it manually. The issue was that I was working under the assumption that you were doing everything based on the Ubuntu branch, not upstream15:37
mhall119Kaleo: nvm, found it15:38
* rickspencer3 drums fingers15:38
mfischlool: sorry, I'm dealing with moving stuff in my basement due to possibly flooding, so I'm only herre off and on15:38
mhall119Kaleo: hmmm, it needs qdocs though15:38
loolrickspencer3: it's probably while an app is crashing15:40
loolrickspencer3: so something crashed and the crash file is being written by apport once it got the segv from the kernel15:40
loolrickspencer3: now if you could ls -ltr /var/crash and see what's the latest crash there  :-)15:41
loolmfisch: the mp was actually from the upstream branch into the upstream branch -- as expected15:41
loolI never touched the ubuntu one15:42
barrymandel: okay, i've learned my lesson not to try to build ubuntu-download-manager on my local machine.  the sbuild locked the whole thing up ;)15:42
mhall119oSoMoN: ping15:42
mandelbarry, really? 'cause jenkins was having no problems15:43
mfischlool: I started with the ubuntu branch and did my MP, then after we talked, I merged it all manually into the upstream branch, superceding your changes. I didn't even know that your MP existed until I had done my merge.15:43
rickspencer3it seemed like an error when I was downloading updates15:43
mandelbarry, the project is getting bigger and bigger... but locking the machine, that is extreme15:43
barrymandel: yeah, i mean keyboard, mouse, ssh... dead as a doorknob15:43
oSoMoNmhall119: pong15:43
mandelbarry, lol15:43
barrymandel: hard reboot needed15:43
barry;)15:44
mandelbarry, sorry to hear that.. I'm going to pull the 'in my machine works!' card15:44
barrymandel: this is the last thing i see in the build log:15:44
barry2013-09-13 11:30:41,509 - DEBUG - Starting daemon15:44
mandelbarry, is probably running the tests15:45
mandelbarry, it is nto 'starting' the real daemon but probably a test in the daemon class15:45
ogra_xnox, uh, where is that ?15:45
barrymandel: i think i'll leave it to the ppas from now on ;)15:45
mhall119oSoMoN: would it be possible to get QDocs for Ubuntu.Components.Extras.Browser?15:46
mandelbarry, yes, is the simplest approach, or just install the deps and qmake & make15:46
mhall119I want to add it to http://91.189.93.79/api/qml/sdk-1.0/15:46
mandelbarry, the debian/control is there with them15:46
barrymandel: thanks15:47
oSoMoNmhall119: yes, it’s a matter of writing the doc first, then ensure it’s built and published15:47
mhall119oSoMoN: if you write the content and the qdocconf, I'll take care of building and publishing :)15:51
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xnoxogra_: hm, qemu booting.15:53
ogra_oh, awesome15:53
ogra_i guess you need to create a partitioned img to make it properly work then15:54
ogra_(with labeled partitions)15:54
davmor2popey: in the screenshot script was the capture dependant on surface flinger?15:54
rickspencer3slangasek, stgraber downloading the updates doesn't seem to be working for me15:54
popeydavmor2: dunno, not tried it without, but probably15:55
rickspencer3is there a way I can check on the progress of the download?15:55
popeyrickspencer3: just worked for me15:55
popeyand mhall11915:55
rickspencer3oops, download timed out15:55
popeyit doesn't update the screen when downloading15:55
rickspencer3finally got a reply15:55
rickspencer3popey, I know that's why I asked if there was a way I could check on the progress15:55
rickspencer3like looking at the file as it downloads, etc...15:55
oSoMoNmhall119: sure, I’ll put it on my long list of tasks…15:55
mhall119yeah, no download progressbar is annoying15:55
mhall119thanks oSoMoN15:56
loolmfisch: I dont have commit access to the upstream branch still15:57
* rickspencer3 drums fingers15:57
mhall119rickspencer3: mine didn't take more than a few minutes, how long have you been waiting?15:57
loolmfisch: please, could you pull lp:~lool/ubuntu-touch-customization-hooks/merged into it?  I've truly merged the branches together now, this should give us correct tags with latest contents15:57
loolmfisch: then I'll look at sponsoring it15:57
ogra_rickspencer3, "system-image-cli -v" in the terminal will show progress ... until the UI worksss right15:58
rickspencer3thanks ogra_15:58
ogra_(sudo ... )15:58
rickspencer3ogra_, just what I needed15:59
mhall119kalikiana: ping15:59
loolrickspencer3: I had to retry the download a bunch of times yesterday myself; because it was large and nexus 4 wifi is shitty for me15:59
mfischlool: looking and I will fix you access15:59
loolrickspencer3: it will be better with download service I'm sure16:00
loolwell, maybe it's too early to say I'm sure  ;-)16:00
rickspencer3lool,  ...16:00
rickspencer3http://paste.ubuntu.com/6102215/16:00
ogra_dont blame the poor nexus4 for your bad AP :P16:00
loolbarry: ^^^16:00
loolrickspencer3: wow16:00
loolbarry: rick has a crash in system-image-cli, see above backtrace16:01
rickspencer3for clarity, I kicked off the download from the Settings GUI16:02
ogra_might be that it still ran in the background (without UI feedback) when you fired up the -cli command16:02
rickspencer3ogra_, my assumption was that it was still runnng16:03
ogra_yeah16:03
ogra_so you probably stepped on your own toes16:04
rickspencer3ok16:04
rickspencer3I'll try rebooting again16:04
* rickspencer3 clicks Download again16:06
cjohnstondavmor2: did you file a bug for the mir not sleeping issue?16:06
davmor2cjohnston: nope it's known16:06
cjohnstonis there a bug or someone just has it in their head?16:07
davmor2cjohnston: pmcgowan said that mir isn't plugged into powerd yet16:07
cjohnstonic16:07
pmcgowandavmor2, cjohnston the api changes, its top of the list16:08
ChickenCutlasscjohnston, being worked on as we speak16:08
davmor2cjohnston: hence not filing the bug :)16:08
cjohnstonthanks ChickenCutlass16:08
cjohnstondavmor2: jfunk had us file a bug on the messaging thing even though it was known, and possibly fixed in the upcoming indicator changes just for tracking16:09
pmcgowanLaney, do you know th conf for the background image? seb told me how to reset it but I forget the key16:09
rickspencer3slangasek, barry so it's looking like when I start the download, it just stops downloading16:09
rickspencer3-rw------- 1 root root 490 Sep 13 16:05 /tmp/system-image/ubuntu-20130913.delta-20130910.2.tar.xz.asc16:09
rickspencer3lool, ^ is thi what you were seeing?16:10
slangasekthat's the signature file only16:10
mhall119davmor2: how is it being tracked if there is no bug?  Is there a workitem in a Blueprint?16:10
davmor2cjohnston: fair enough :)  I do the same thing for U1 stuff but this managers telling me it's in the works so I won't tread on their toes till they say it's out and I can still reproduce it :)16:10
rickspencer3slangasek, oh16:10
rickspencer3duh16:10
rickspencer3hold on16:10
rickspencer3sorry slangasek that was just what it busted it on last time, the last thing it showed downloading16:11
rickspencer3slangasek, I think I am having lool's problem16:12
rickspencer3the wireless being flaky :)16:12
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mptJohnLea, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking#phone-indicator16:15
rickspencer3aaarg16:16
rickspencer3slangasek, so, second time, I hit Install and restart and it say "Apply update failed: no update has been downloaded"16:17
rickspencer3:/16:17
slangasekhum16:19
rickspencer3slangasek, anything I can do to debu16:20
rickspencer3this has happened twice in a row for me16:20
slangasekbarry: ^^ what do you suggest for further debugging these system-image failures?16:20
rickspencer3slangasek, barry it all looks downloaded: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6102292/16:20
loolrickspencer3: yeah, when wireless is flaky I have to retry a bunch of times, sometimes rebooting first, it's painful16:21
rickspencer3lool, even though it all downloaded?16:21
rickspencer3maybe some checksums don't add up?16:21
loolrickspencer3: when it actually completes and I get the "reboot" button, it usually works16:21
rickspencer3lool, so I got there, but it didn;t work16:22
rickspencer3it said there it was not downloaded16:22
rickspencer3I'd rather not just try again, but take a peek at it in it's current state to see if there is a bug here16:22
loolrickspencer3: if you connected to some redirected wifi setup, some downloads might indeed be corrupted, but I think system-image starts from scratch each time anyway, so it shouldn't affect retries16:22
rickspencer3ok16:26
* rickspencer3 tries again16:26
rickspencer3lool, slangasek, barry, so that time it downloaded much faster, and seems to be installing cleanly16:30
WebbyITDo online accounts work? Because I try to add Twitter, it redirect me to login page, I do login, then redirect me to account page, but there are no accounts set.16:33
loolrickspencer3: cool16:34
loolrickspencer3: it's not worth debugging this too much since we're replacing the downloader logic with download service ASAP16:35
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looldidrocks: heyo16:39
looldidrocks: I'm sponsoring a package for mfisch and others used to override ubuntu settings in custom images16:39
barryrickspencer3, lool, slangasek if you want, you can change the loglevel in /etc/system-image/client.ini to 'info' or 'debug' and get more output in the log file, but yeah we're working furiously on replacing the internal downloader with the d/l service16:40
looldidrocks: they would like to land this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6102368/16:40
looldidrocks: it goes in the image; as you can see, the upstart jobs start with [ -d /custom ] || exit 0 and are not doing anything when launched in our images16:40
looldidrocks: question 1: is it ok to land this now?16:40
looldidrocks + mfisch: question 2: should we add this to some "daily autolanding" stack?16:41
mfischwe anticipate at least one more change to that package but hopefully it slows down16:41
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didrockslool: our image == ro image?16:43
didrocksfor question 2: sure, it should be in the daily release process16:43
didrocksmfisch: do you think we should wait for it?16:43
looldidrocks: yes16:43
looldidrocks: the branch is lp:ubuntu-touch-customization-hooks BTW16:43
didrockslool: seems safe enough to me, so +116:44
looldidrocks: but let's wait for mfisch to confirm16:44
didrocks(now that we published)16:44
looldidrocks: Ok; uploading this manually for now16:44
didrocksbut let's see if mfisch has more changes16:44
davmor2cjohnston: did you write a bug for the powerd issue or did you want me too?16:44
didrocksfirst16:44
looldidrocks: oh we promoted an image?16:44
didrockslool: right, at least… 2 hours ago! :)16:44
* didrocks goes grab some lunch bbiab16:44
mfischsorry guys, back now16:44
mfischI dont have an eta on the other change, let me get it from cwayne16:44
mfischcwayne: any eta for that other fix for a/s?16:44
loolmfisch: tagged and uploaded 0.316:48
loolmfisch: do you know about daily landing?  are you ok with switching to that mode/16:48
mfischlool: yes, that would be great16:49
looldidrocks: ^  so whenever you have a chance, I've not uploaded latest version, but other changes will be coming, would you or someone in your team help add this branch to some good daily landing stack?16:49
lool subject: [ubuntu/saucy-proposed] ubuntu-touch-customization-hooks 0.316:49
mfischlool: will that follow the standard process? push to trunk, but a new version goes only when you add a changelog? or will every push be a new revision?16:50
cwaynemfisch, theres an MR, let me check on it16:52
mfischcwayne: an MR for another component?16:52
cwaynemfisch, unity816:52
mfischcwayne: okay, so we're backed up then16:53
AskUbuntuWebSQL and other databases not working with HTML5 apps | http://askubuntu.com/q/34518116:59
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loolmfisch: not sure what the best resource is, Didier had blog posts on this and there was a vUDS session on it17:00
loolmfisch: I think when we're in auto mode, stuff gets rolled automatically in packages, and also from packages back to the branch, but you're supposed never to commit directly; instead you send mps and approve them17:01
mfischlool: yep sounds similar to the old ps process17:01
loolev: So I've straced whoopsie and it gets timeouts when contacting daisy.ubuntu.com17:09
loolwill try to get a network trace17:09
loolev: what I see in strace are new processes / threads appearing every now and then, printing "online" then resolving daisy.u.c and getting a connection timeout on a socket17:10
geniilool: I'm getting pretty high numbers on simple ping to it ( 100-350ms)17:11
loolgenii: I'm getting decent ping reply times17:11
loolev: so with a network trace, I only see the DNS requests getting out, nothing else17:15
cjohnstondavmor2: I did not.17:17
oSoMoNbfiller: would you have some time to test/review https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/clear-history/+merge/185470 ?17:27
loolev: I dont understand what was going on, but all crashes now uploaded after restarting again in foreground!17:28
evweird!17:28
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cyphermoxdidrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/cupstream2distro-config/add-indicators-test-packages/+merge/18555517:30
loolev: hmm I can see my device's uploads on errors.u.c with the URL you gave me, but can't find corresponding entries on the errors.u.c index17:35
loolgetting late here, will chase this monday I think17:35
loolbye all17:36
evhave a nice weekend17:37
evlool: let's catch up over it when I get back from holiday17:37
sergiusenscjwatson, beuno  wrt to tranlating manifests, how is that going to happen?17:45
beunosergiusens, my understanding is that it won't happen in the manifest, but in the web ui17:45
beunowe are 80% done with that17:45
sergiusensbeuno, ok, so we'll keep the manifest simple, that's better for me17:46
sergiusensthanks17:46
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* beuno waits for his high-five17:48
* cwayne high fives beuno 17:51
cwaynesorry, i just like high fives, couldn't leave you hanging17:51
beuno\o/17:51
beunothanks cwayne, my arm was starting to hurt17:51
cwaynesorry i couldn't get here sooner17:52
cwaynelol17:52
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robrumterry, yeah, we are trying to get cordova in :-/18:04
mterryrobru, hi18:06
robrumterry, hey18:06
mterryrobru, so I enabled tests for qtgraphicaleffects and qtsvg18:06
mterryrobru, qtpim had a test failure, I wasn't sure how to investigate18:06
robrumterry, you got them working? what was the trick with plugin path?18:06
mterryrobru, there were two pieces:  We needed to set QT_PLUGIN_PATH=./plugins *as well as* LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./libs18:07
robruahhhhhh18:07
mterryI didn't realize at first that it built its own library that it also installed18:07
robrumterry, so how do we handle this? can we submit the patches upstream to debian?18:07
mterryrobru, I already passed on to Debian18:07
robruoh, sweet.18:07
mfischdidrocks: we're not waiting on anything else in ubuntu-touch-customization-hooks at the moment, the fix is in another package18:08
robrumterry, you're on fire ;-)18:08
mterryrobru, as for qtpim, the same style of patch works to run tests.  But as I said, I hit a seemingly real test failure18:08
robrumterry, ok, did you report a bug? do you want me to try it?18:08
mterryrobru, so someone that knows the problem space will need to look at that18:08
didrocksmfisch: ok, so +1 for this trivial change18:08
mterryrobru, sure, take a peek18:08
didrocksbut work on getting under daily release18:08
robrumterry, ok. i don't know anything, but I'll at least ping Mirv about it with my findings.18:08
mfischdidrocks: yes, who should I work with on daily releases?18:09
mterryrobru, now...  that's for the webapps side.  There is qtpim and webbrowser-app left to go there.  webbrowser app still needs security review18:09
mterryrobru, as for the cordova side...18:09
robruyeah?18:09
didrocksmfisch: just please send me an email with the projects/branches that shold be under dailies18:10
mterryrobru, it looks like there is some vague uneasiness about the qtsystems plugin being a git snapshot.  And cordova-ubuntu itself sounded fine from jamie's comment.  But qtmultimedia is the big problem there, just because of its deps18:10
mfischdidrocks: will do18:10
robrumterry, yeah, i'm not sure what to do about that. I asked alex and he says it's really used :-/18:10
mterryrobru, my understanding is that we actually do need openal?  That it's not a dependency we can just chop, eh?18:10
robrualex-abreu, ^^ do you know if the usage of qtmultimedia in cordova is really using openal? or just different parts of qtmultimedia?18:11
cwaynemterry, hey, so whats the AS policykit bug fix waiting on?18:11
mterryrobru, openal is one of those things where we have a bunch of audio libraries in main already.  Any chance we could port qtmultimedia to like... alsa or something?  (not really sure what's comparable to openal)18:11
alex-abreurobru, mmmh no, where is openal listed as a dep ?18:11
mterrycwayne, asac and the QA team want to test it18:12
mterryalex-abreu, of qtmultimedia18:12
robrualex-abreu, qtmultimedia brings in openal, and openal brings in a ton of other stuff.18:12
asacmterry: do you have it in CI?18:12
asacmterry: lightdm thatis?18:12
xnoxSo... I installed Ingres app from the store on ubuntu touch, and it locks up nexus 7 =)18:12
xnoxnonetheless there is Ingress app available now =)18:12
robruxnox, let me know if you get that working. that's the one thing blocking me from dogfooding on my n4 ;-)18:13
mterryasac, uh, lightdm is in CI, but not auto-release-to-distro.  But it's not a lightdm change anymore.  Only remaining bit is ubuntu-touch-session changes to move from upstart to lightdm for the touch session18:13
xnoxrobru: it's "Ingres Intel" only, not the Scanner =/18:13
robruoh, buh18:13
robruxnox, wait, who's authoring this? is it a qml app?18:13
xnoxrobru: no, not qml ;-)18:13
mterryasac, (and session-manager-touch does not seem to use CI)18:14
xnoxrobru: there is also xkcd, lloyds tsb UK banking app, tumblr....18:14
bfilleroSoMoN: I will take a look18:14
alex-abreumterry, robru well the cordova api has some audio caps & uses qtmultimedia for that, not sure about the backends to it18:14
asacmterry: lightdm is in CI? so you moved it there recently? i remember sending a mail to robert_ancell asking if we could add it18:14
asacbecause it was directly uploaded18:14
xnoxrobru: it's webapps ;-)18:14
asac... so he did it already?18:14
ogra_asac, as i told you over lunch, we need to add lxc-android-config and session-manager-touch to CI still18:14
robruxnox, ah yeah18:14
mterryasac, well.  wait.  when I say CI I mean jenkins landing code to trunk.  I believe that's enabled.  But we don't do daily releases to distro18:15
mterryThat's still a manual process18:15
asacmterry: you use upstream merger?18:15
asacmterry: can you point me at one merge commit please?18:15
asacwant to see what bots answer to them18:15
asacerr merge request :)18:15
mterryasac, yeah18:15
asacnot merge commit18:15
mterryhttps://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/lightdm/keep-vt-around/+merge/18488718:15
mterryasac, ^18:15
neokoreHi, anyone could help me flashing a nexus 4? I'm trying to install Ubuntu Touch but I get an error when I run phablet-flash18:16
mterryalex-abreu, so you don't know why it uses openal vs some other framework?  And presumably don't care about the backend past "make some noises"?18:16
cjohnstonneokore: giving us the error would be helpful18:16
alex-abreumterry, qtmultimedia ? nope/yes18:17
asacmterry: which autopilots are run for lightdm in upstream merger? do you know?18:17
mterryasac, I don't believe any autopilot.  It has a dep8 test suite though, if I recall18:17
neokorecjohnston: with phablet-flash ubuntu-system I get "Backup requested but cannot be completed succesfully"18:17
asacmterry: yeah that test suite doesnt help me much :)18:18
asacmterry: i will add unity8-autopilot18:18
asaci assume if this breaks something it will break unity8 most likely18:18
neokorecjohnston: Trying with -bo-backup I get "ERROR:phablet-flash:Command 'adb shell mount /data' returned non-zero exit status 255"18:18
asacmterry: it also enables polkit right?18:18
popeyneokore: --no-backup ?18:18
asacmterry: which apps will from then on rely on polkit?18:18
ogra_asac, what exactly do you want tested ?18:18
popeyoops18:18
mterryasac, it forces logind to recognize VT1 as active, which makes policykit work again18:18
popeyneokore: did you want to keep your data?18:18
asacmterry: which apps will then go through polkit?18:19
cjohnstonneokore: try specifying the adb id18:19
ogra_asac, if the session doesnt come up, it is broken ... if the session comes up it works :)18:19
neokorepopey: nope, it's a clean nexus418:19
asacogra_: apps will suddenlly go through polkit18:19
popeyneokore: if you are doing this and want to continue developing with qtcreator, don't use ubuntu-system18:19
asacogra_: tell me which apps that are please18:19
popeyneokore: use "phablet-flash cdimage-touch -b"18:19
asacwhich app is doing something that requires polkit18:19
asac?18:19
ogra_asac, there isnt really the need for an explicit test, you will clearly see it is broken if thats the case18:19
mterryasac, well.  To test if policykit is enabled or not, I was toggling the "Stats on Welcome Screen" system setting, because that tries to set an AccountServices field, which needs policykit to work as a normal user18:19
neokorepopey: Ok, I'll try18:19
ogra_asac, click and NM18:19
mterryasac, and then I was confirming AcccountService got updated via commandline dbus request18:20
popeyneokore: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install is the instructions, if there's errors, let us know18:20
asacogra_: so click store and network indicator?18:20
mterryasac, I can give you command line if you'd like to test the same way18:20
ogra_asac, well, the communication between NM and the indicator18:20
asacmterry: no... i want to set your upstream merger up so that i am confident to land you in parallel with other stuff18:20
mterryasac, yeah, NM also uses policykit, but you have to disable the current hacks to have NM avoid it.  I'm not familiar with that process18:20
asacfor that i need the autopilots that might potentially effected18:20
asacmterry: i will check with phonedations guys18:21
ogra_(and NM itself for user frontend and system backend)18:21
neokorepopey: I followed this instructions, but I though that ubuntu-system was the right image. Now it's downloading, fingercrossing! Thanks18:21
mterryasac, again, the change that needs to land is not a lightdm-upstream change.  It's just an lp:session-manager-touch change.  Just to be clear18:22
mterryBut that does still need an upstream merger, yeah18:22
cjohnstonneokore: you will just need to make it a writeable image18:22
mterryrobru, anyway...  I'll have a quick look at qtmultimedia, see if there are multiple backends or not18:23
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neokorepopey cjohnston: it seems that now it's working... autodeploy right now :D18:24
mterryalex-abreu, so... ya'll use the QtAudioEngine piece of qtmultimedia?18:25
neokorepopey cjohnston: it boots! Thank you!18:28
alex-abreumterry,  mediaplayer, audioencodersettings, cameraviewfinder, & camera image etc. qml components18:28
alex-abreumterry, quite a few things18:28
mterryalex-abreu, ok..  The only piece of qtmultimedia that needs openal is specifically the "QtAudioEngine" Qml plugin.  Package qtdeclarative5-qtaudioengine-plugin, which only the "ubuntu-sdk" depends on.  Is that import specifically part of the SDK?18:31
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mterryalex-abreu, it would make the MIR a lot easier if we could just disable building that plugin18:32
alex-abreumterry, yeah I see where you are going18:32
alex-abreumterry, no we don't use it18:33
alex-abreumterry, to be more precise, we don't use the QtAudioEngine qml plugin from qtmultimedia18:33
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alex-abreuso don't need (unles something lese needs it) the openal backend18:33
mterryalex-abreu, the only package in Ubuntu that references it is a Recommends from ubuntu-sdk18:34
alex-abreuok18:34
mterryalex-abreu, OK.  So I will go ahead and propose that ubuntu-sdk stop recommending it.  If that lands, I can disable building the plugin in qtmultimedia.  Then the cordova MIR will be able to sail through18:35
mterryrobru, ^18:35
robrumterry, alex-abreu: oh that's great news. thanks a bunch guys18:36
alex-abreumterry, hopefully it won't open the gates to hell but otherwise +118:36
mterryalex-abreu, yeah...  We'll see what pushback there is from SDK folks18:36
cjohnstonstgraber: ping18:37
stgrabercjohnston: pong18:38
cjohnstonstgraber: when updating a system-image, does /etc/media-info (or another file) change to match the new ubuntufs build number?18:40
ossaturalargahello18:40
ogra_cjohnston, it should18:41
ossaturalargaanyone knows how to install xubuntu 12.04 on a tablet device? i have a mediscom i101018:41
cjohnstonogra_: is that the correct file, or another one?18:41
ogra_thats the correct file for the rootfs stamp18:41
ogra_the other image info comes from "system-image-cli -i"18:42
cjohnstonogra_: I wonder if we could get that added to the output from system-image-cli -i18:42
cjohnstonlooking to be able to get as much info in one place as possible18:42
ogra_barry, ^^^ could we ?18:42
stgrabercjohnston: yep, /etc/media-info should be changing when you update to a new rootfs (note that not all system-images include a new rootfs, some may only ship a new android build)18:42
cjohnstonstgraber: right18:42
cjohnstonstgraber: I'm also wondering if maybe we could record that somewhere somehow, other than the json file18:43
ogra_cjohnston, i was actually pondering to also inject the android package version into the rootfs so we could check that too18:43
stgrabercjohnston: we've got a plan to add the triplet (or quadruplet) to /etc/system-image/channel.ini in the coming weeks, then we'll be able to reliably get the version number for all the bits18:43
josephtyay18:43
cjohnstonstgraber: ack. that would be very helpful... plars ^18:43
ogra_stgraber, quadruplet ? whats the fourth one ?18:44
stgraberogra_: putting the android version in the rootfs would be awfully confusing when we publish an android tarball without a rootfs tarball :)18:44
stgraberogra_: customization18:44
ogra_ah18:44
ogra_stgraber, oh, do we plan that ?18:44
stgraberit's a supported use case, yes18:44
ogra_i thought it is always one tar.xz or one diff18:44
barryogra_: sure, please file a bug for what you want.18:45
ogra_barry, will do18:45
stgraberanyway, we'll have all the version numbers shipped as part of version.tar.xz soon enough which will give us that information reliably18:45
stgraberbarry: I think we already do18:45
plarsstgraber, cjohnston: would that be updated if the update tool runs?18:45
ogra_plars, yes, thats how the conversation started above :)18:46
barrystgraber: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image/+bugs?field.tag=client18:46
plarsah, ok18:46
stgraberbarry: bug 122090718:46
ubot5`bug 1220907 in Ubuntu system image "Add support for 'version_detail' in channel.ini" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122090718:46
stgrabersupport for version_detail on the server and client side will give us access to the version of each of the tarballs and allow system-image-cli to show that information in -i18:46
ogra_ah, perfect18:46
barrystgraber: tagged :)18:47
ogra_stgraber, but is that on the filesystem anywhere ?18:47
stgraberogra_: /etc/system-image/channel.ini18:47
ogra_or does it need to query the server18:47
ogra_great18:47
mterryalex-abreu, robru: who is a good person to ask about the SDK?18:47
alex-abreumterry, bzoltan I'd say18:48
* ogra_ notes there is nothing to see here and moves on :)18:48
robruyeah18:48
stgraberI'm actually likely to have the server side of that implemented today as part of my work on rewriting the publishing scripts so if all goes well, we'll have the updated file starting on Monday18:48
stgraberbarry: system-image-cli won't freak out if version_detail appears and it doesn't support it yet, right?18:48
stgraber(not sure how strict it's about it's .ini parsing, hopefully extra keys are just ignored)18:49
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barrystgraber: extra keys are just treated as strings, so it should parse it but won't do anything with it18:49
mterryrobru, ok, sent him an email18:50
cwaynestgraber, ping18:50
mterryrobru, didn't think to CC you, but will let you know18:50
mterryHe's in Finland, so may be Monday before we hear back18:50
jonomzanetti, man18:50
jonothat app looks awesome18:50
stgrabercwayne: pong18:50
stgraberbarry: good18:50
jonodoes it use QtLocation and work?18:50
cwaynestgraber, hey, any updated ETA on the automated signing bits?18:51
robrumterry, great, thanks18:51
mterryrobru, meanwhile, hopefully some progress is made on the webapps stuff18:52
stgrabercwayne: if all goes well, we'll switch to the new infrastructure on Monday18:52
robrumterry, oh, what's wrong with webapps? I thought we skirted qtmultimedia there and everything was great?18:52
robrumterry, other than that daily release is broken and webapps has some bugs that are desperate for publishing...18:52
mterryrobru, the tests for qtpim and webbrowser-app needs a security review18:52
robrumterry, oh, right. I'll look at those today. thanks again18:53
cwaynestgraber, that's great news! thanks man18:53
asacrsalveti: can you change your request to ask for seedchange of mtp?18:53
rsalvetiasac: sure18:53
alex-abreurobru, any news on what's blocking releases on our ends ? CI not landing ?18:53
asacrsalveti: say that that MTP is first to be newed etc.18:53
stgrabercwayne: I've got some nice pseudocode at the moment and I'm convinced that the design is right, I just need to finish converting that into actual python ;)18:54
stgrabercwayne: but I'm hopeful I can get most of that done in the next 3 hours before my EOD18:54
robrualex-abreu, CI seems fine, I saw a bunch of merges land in trunk ok. it's daily_release, the system that handles it is totally hosed, multiple different problems (even hardware problems), so daily_release has just been crippled for a couple weeks now. QA is working on it but apparently it's quite the disaster.18:55
cwaynestgraber, awesome :D18:56
alex-abreurobru, I don't see releases for our projects18:56
AskUbuntuHow do I install an Ubuntu Touch app packaged as a Click package? | http://askubuntu.com/q/34522618:57
robrualex-abreu, yeah, exactly, because daily_release system is down :-P18:58
robrualex-abreu, CI just means "landing merges in trunk", which is working. daily_release means "pushing releases to distro"18:58
alex-abreurobru, yes we are on the same page,18:58
mzanettijono: :)18:58
alex-abreurobru, but isn't there a way to get those releases, I mean there are quite a b unch of them pending ...18:59
mzanettijono: yes18:59
cwaynemzanetti, is there any tutorial/api doc for how to use location in utouch?18:59
mzanetticwayne: only in its source code19:00
robrualex-abreu, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to push  manual releases, it screws up the daily_release system quite a bit. didrocks just sent a mail saying they were trying to get the webapps fixes out19:00
didrocksrobru: alex-abreu: manual releases shouldn't be used19:01
robruI knew it ;-)19:02
alex-abreudidrocks, I wasn't planning to :)19:02
alex-abreudidrocks, you are always around hu :)19:02
alex-abreuleading the lost souls ;)19:02
didrocksalex-abreu: US time this week ;)19:02
robruoooooh19:02
alex-abreudidrocks, ah right, having fun w/ rvr19:02
robrudidrocks, so i can bug you all day ;-)19:02
rvralex-abreu: didrocks doesn't like having fun... without laptops19:03
didrocksrobru: too late, it's last day ;)19:03
rvrHe was staring at the screen at the barbecue, too bad19:04
alex-abreuaha19:04
mfischstgraber: is there anything we can do to assist in getting signing setup for our tarballs?19:05
davmor2ogra_, kgunn, pmcgowan: should the scopes change between unity8 on sf and mir?   On sf I get music/home/apps/videos (like I'm used too) on mir I get home/apps/docs/videos/music/pictures iirc19:07
stgrabermfisch: actually, I think so, yes. Is there a very easy (scriptable) way of getting the buildID for the Jenkins build?19:07
mfischstgraber: I will find out19:07
kgunndavmor2: i wouldn't think so at all19:07
stgrabermfisch: currently my code grabs the file and does a sha256 on it to check if it already imported it, sadly that means grabbing the whole tarball every minute from Jenkins :)19:07
stgrabermfisch: so I think IS would be likely to want to murder me or something if I land that code in production :)19:08
kgunndavmor2: i could only think that use of the different qt plugin could effect that ?19:08
kgunnout of the whole stack that would be the only thing i could think19:08
kgunnthat might effect it19:08
kgunn...that is really strange19:09
mfischstgraber: you just grab lastSuccessful?19:09
kgunndavmor2: did you dist-upgrade in between possibly ?19:09
stgrabermfisch: yep19:09
cwaynefginther, ping19:09
davmor2kgunn: nope I'm not dist-upgrading I go from image flash to image flash to test the images19:09
fginthercwayne, hey19:09
mfischstgraber: we could add a build number to jenkins I think19:10
stgrabermfisch: I basically have a basic file source which just grabs stuff over http/https, hashes it and if it's not already imported, processes it, but since we run that code every minute, it's not great :)19:10
mfischa file with a build #19:10
stgrabermfisch: yep, that'd do the trick19:10
mfischcould jenkins make the hash for you?19:10
mfischfginther: can jenkins write out a build id for the sevile job?19:10
cwaynefginther, hey, is there any way to programatically see what the last sucessful build of a job in jenkins was?19:10
mfischlol we're having parallel convos19:10
stgrabermfisch: yeah, my plan is to add a second file to my http plugin telling it to monitor that file instead and if that one changes, then grab the real thing19:10
kgunnricmm: does davmor2 's description of scopes changing make any sense to you ? ^^19:11
stgrabermfisch: that file can either contain the buildid or some hash or whatever, as long as I can grab it every minute without killing our cross-DC link :)19:11
fginthercwayne, yes, there are python-jenkins and python-jenkinsapi, both have APIs to get the last sucessful build19:11
kgunnricmm: out of all the deltas between surffliner and mir...qt plugin is the only thing i would think might effect that ?19:11
cwaynefginther, but can they get the build number of that build?19:11
mfischfginther: what we need is that jenkins grabs the build # and drops it as a file into the artifacts19:11
davmor2kgunn: ah hang on it only effects mir after the crash, if I go from sf to mir it is the same, one second let me just confirm that19:12
fginthermfisch, would that just be another file that gets saved as an archive artifact?19:12
mfischfginther: more like echo $BUILDNUM > buildnum19:12
fginthermfisch, there is env var for that.19:12
mfischso stgraber can watch for that file19:12
fginthermfisch, exactly19:12
mfischfginther: okay, I'll change the script19:13
mfischfginther: whats the env var?19:13
fginthermfisch, one moment19:13
stgrabermfisch: I also though of using a standard HTTP HEAD request, but Jenkins seems pretty bad at replying to those, the headers appear/disappear randomly and the last modified date sometimes looks wrong, so not something I can rely on19:14
fginthermfisch, in the job configuration page, there is a link to the list of environment variables below the shell script window19:14
stgraber*thought19:14
mfischstgraber: jenkins only polls hourly, you could ratchet your polling down. or is it the same script that everyone else uses?19:14
fginthermfisch, BUILD_NUMBER19:14
fgintherThe current build number, such as "153"19:14
mfischthanks19:14
stgrabermfisch: same script that monitors everything19:14
mfischstgraber: k19:14
beunotedg, ping. Do you know if it's ok to have X-Ubuntu-StageHint in the .desktop file?19:15
mfischtesting it out19:15
tedgbeuno, Yeah, it's not used today on phone.  But it's what we plan on using for the tablet.19:15
tedgbeuno, At least last I checked.  Probably need a Unity8 guy to confirm.19:16
* tedg tries to think who'd be awake^W sober19:16
mfischits 5pm somewhere19:16
tedgkgunn, Do you by chance know if X-Ubuntu-StageHint is still valid for the side stage?19:17
kgunntedg: i know side stage is not working with unity8-mir19:17
kgunnpre mir...its a posibility19:17
mfischfginther: it builds on the 10. one and then copies stuff to jenkins.qa?19:18
fginthermfisch, right, that done by the publisher plugin19:18
beunotedg, kgunn, would it be harmful if I approve an app in the store using that?19:19
mfischstgraber: there is a file called "build_number" now, which you can query19:20
stgrabermfisch: ah cool, thanks, I'll use that19:20
mfischit's 3 bytes, but I expect 25% growth in that size later this fall ;)19:20
stgrabermfisch: that'll appear in the next build right? I just tried http://10.97.2.10:8080/view/cambridge/job/feifei-image/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/build_number and that doesn't appear to exist.19:21
stgrabermfisch: (unless that's the wrong project, I remember your team giving me two different names)19:21
mfischhttp://10.97.2.10:8080/job/sevilerow-watch/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/build_number19:22
stgraberright, different project then19:22
mfischstgraber: I still need to fix feifei, sevilerow is the one to do for now19:22
davmor2kgunn: nope I can't reproduce it I'm assuming it was just a config that got screwed from me constantly crashing it :)19:22
tedgkgunn, Amazing management-fu, you only know what to yell at people for being broken ;-)19:22
tedgbeuno, I'm pretty sure you're good.19:23
stgrabermfisch: right, so saucy-customized will be using sevilerow-watch19:23
tedgbeuno, I think that there are several apps that have it in distro today.19:23
beunotedg, that will be my commit message, thanks  :)19:23
mfischstgraber: perfect19:23
mfischstgraber: and we'll be doing the private one on our own19:23
tedgbeuno, Friends app has it, just blame kenvandine19:23
davmor2beuno: you might need to vary it slightly from one commit to another :D19:23
kgunnbeuno: i don't know....the bug is ours, from sdk perspective it'd be legit19:24
beunoX-Ubuntu-StageHint=skimbou-app19:24
beunotedg, is that a valid way of using it?19:24
tedgbeuno, No19:25
kenvandinetedg, nothing is EVER my fault :)19:25
tedgbeuno, X-Ubuntu-StageHint=SideStage19:25
beunotedg, ah, that's why the script is yelling at me then, thanks  :)19:25
tedgbeuno, It basically means on the tablet you'll not get full screen.19:25
* tedg blames kenvandine for the lack of G+ post support in Friends19:26
mfischfginther: should you be the POC for these or should it be me/cwayne?19:26
fginthermfisch, either of you is more appropriate19:26
mfischfginther: oky19:27
beunotedg, thanks19:27
mfischcwayne it is then19:27
fginther:-)19:27
cwaynesure19:27
mfischactually I put both of us19:27
cwaynefine19:28
kenvandinetedg, totally my fault :)19:28
kgunnand tedg ...i don't yell...well...often19:29
davmor2kgunn: if you don't talk through the megaphone it won't sound like you're shouting anymore honest :D19:31
kgunndavmor2: :)19:36
davmor2kgunn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-mir/+bug/1225155 that's a regression on SF for sure also really low on the agenda too I imagine :)19:39
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1225155 in unity-mir "Maguro: Camera app picture taken flash is ugly" [Undecided,New]19:39
kgunndavmor2: yeah...we'll get right on that :)19:40
davmor2kgunn: I did say low :)19:40
kgunndavmor2: yeah...just messin'19:41
davmor2kgunn: to be honest it will probably get fixed fixin other stuff, I'm just reporting as I'm hittin ;)19:41
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nik90_When trying to execute an app through qtcreator, I get the following error message19:58
nik90_[21:46:48] bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Invalid argument19:58
nik90_bash: no job control in this shell19:58
nik90_Does anyone know why?19:58
nik90_[21:46:48] QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display19:58
ogra_davmor2, i dont get that here with the 46 image20:03
ogra_davmor2, and no, they shouldnt ... they changed between 44 and 46 though ...20:03
ogra_in 44 we dropped the demo content, which automagically made all these scopes show up, in 45 we actually shrunk that back to the 4 known scopes again20:04
davmor2ogra_: ah I wonder then if I had it this morning and it was fixed with the flash today and I just remembered seeing it then20:05
ogra_yeah, it was broken briefly20:05
ogra_but should all be fine in the recent images20:06
ogra_i sadly had to drop the remote video lens ... else you would have searchable youtube videos in the video scope :)20:07
* ogra_ hopes we can add that back once the new multimedia stack lands20:07
ogra_sigh ... if the NM indicator would kill the wlan all the time20:09
ogra_*wouldn't20:09
ogra_happens on all devices for me20:09
ogra_(and apparently for others too around me here at the sprint)20:10
davmor2ogra_: I found the transfer from 3g to wifi was the big issue for me, I took to turning it off in order to allow wifi to take over.20:17
davmor2ogra_: settings,cellular, 3g or faster to off and then back on again20:17
frekaHello, trying to install touch-coreapps, but it deosnt work.  getting same problem a in this http://askubuntu.com/questions/340287/unable-to-install-touch-coreapps-on-ubuntu-12-1020:19
ogra_davmor2, both phones have no SIm in them atm here20:19
davmor2ogra_: ouch20:20
davmor2freka: 12.10 or 13.10?  Touch apps are designed for 13.10 not 12.1020:21
wellsbHow can I restart a scope so I don't have to reboot everytime I install a new app?20:22
ogra_wellsb, you could try to run: sudo restart unity820:22
ogra_wellsb, in the terminal app20:23
davmor2kgunn: do you know if there is a way to take a screenshot on mir on a device?  Screencap doesn't seem to work, so I'm assuming it depends on surface flinger?20:23
mhall119ogra_: sergiusens: either of you know if there's a bug files already for the hardare volume buttons not working?20:25
mhall119I seem to recall there being discussion about that already20:26
ogra_mhall119, i think diwic is on it already ...20:26
ogra_(and he says yes, there is also a bug for it )20:27
mhall119can you ask him what the bug # is?20:27
ogra_he is looking it up20:27
ogra_seems we'll have to wait for Mir to land first though20:27
ogra_mhall119, bug 121905720:28
ubot5`bug 1219057 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "volume up/down key is not working anymore with the new indicator-sound" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121905720:28
mhall119thanks20:28
cjohnstondavmor2: if you decided to file a bug on mir could you please subscribe me20:32
davmor2cjohnston: I'm just trying the new build20:33
cjohnstonack20:33
cjohnstondavmor2: I haven't seen a new one yet20:33
davmor2meh maybe there isn't one then I blame ogra_20:34
* ogra_ isnt guilty ... its all asacs fault 20:35
neokoreHi all again, I got another question. How could I run an app directly from QtCreator to device, by now I get "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host20:35
neokore" but both are connected to Internet20:35
davmor2ogra_: that's your cop out for everything ;)20:35
ogra_he asked me to turn off auto-builds since he wanted to build at least three manual ones :)20:35
ogra_(which kind of didnt happen)20:35
cjohnstonhehe20:36
ogra_thanks for the reminder though ...20:36
davmor2ogra_: crap  just updated to .3 is it horribly broken20:36
* ogra_ switches the cronjob back on so we have builds on the weekend20:36
cjohnstonneokore: did you see the emails on ssh earlier today?20:36
ogra_davmor2, 46 ?20:36
neokorecjohnston: nope, sorry I'll take a look20:37
davmor213.3 let me track down the build number20:37
ogra_system-image-cli -i20:37
davmor2ogra_: yeah it's still flashing though :D20:37
ogra_huh ?20:37
ogra_how can it be horridly broken then20:38
davmor2ogra_: 46 it is20:38
davmor2ogra_: no I asked is it horribly broken20:38
ogra_oh20:38
* ogra_ read "it is" instead of "is it"20:38
ogra_not more broken than the former ones20:39
davmor2ogra_: that's fine then :)20:39
ogra_Mir is crashy if you enable it ... but thats not on by default20:39
davmor2ogra_: but I enjoy breaking mir20:39
ogra_heh, and it enjoys breaking on you20:39
davmor2testing I meant testing mir honest gov'nor20:39
davmor2ogra_: don't sneak up on it and shout boo it doesn't like that :D20:40
ogra_hehe20:40
neokorecjohnston: I just only need to delete /etc/init/ssh.override Thank you!20:43
davmor2cjohnston: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-mir/+bug/1225190 consider yourself subscribed20:51
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1225190 in unity-mir "Mir needs a powerd plugin" [Undecided,New]20:51
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abimanyuhi i am porting ubuntu current daily build for my device i have few questions21:38
abimanyudevices part install all files to /system and ubuntu images install to /data and initramfs boot into /data how the files are loaded if they are in sepera partations21:39
popeyabimanyu: heya, as it's a bit late on friday night and some people are travelling there's not many people about. Maybe ask on the phone mailing list or pop back during the EU/US working day here?21:45
abimanyupopey: it's 3:15AM here21:47
abimanyujust some hints are enough21:47
popeyhah21:48
didrocksogra_: drinking? we need to build an image21:58
viraaahello22:04
viraaacan you help me??22:05
genii!details | viraaa22:07
ubot5`viraaa: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:07
cwayneit seems the 'hangup' button in the dialer-app doesn't work22:08
cwaynethat made hanging up on someone very awkward while i held the power button for 15 seconds to poweroff the phone22:08
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cwaynessweeny, what if you do the daily instead of daily-proposed?22:09
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cwaynemhall119, hey, did you ever get an update on the Qt.openUrlExternally thing?22:33
dakerhey mhall119 or popey can someone please test my click package please http://ubuntuone.com/2cYdasVCA1VVUkNdHLNAYz ?22:49
ogra_popey, is there a click package for the beru reader ?22:50
cwaynedaker, i can give it a shot22:50
dakercwayne: thanks :)22:50
cwaynedaker, anything in particular you want me to look out for?22:51
dakercwayne:  just see if the app runs, select a radio and see if the stream is playing22:52
cwaynedaker, sure thing22:53
popeyogra_: http://rschroll.github.io/beru/assets/com.ubuntu.developer.rschroll.beru_0.1.2_arm.click22:54
popeydaker: sure22:54
ogra_oh22:54
popeyhe's submitting to the store too22:54
ogra_i found the github url searching for it ... didnt really expect a click to be in the tree22:55
popeyheh22:55
cwaynedaker, hm, the click seems to be missing a .desktop22:56
dakercwayne: i see, can you run it without a .desktop ?22:57
cwayneqmlscene: could not find a Qt installation of ''22:59
dakercwayne: the exec file is ./radio23:01
popeythere's no apparmour profile either23:01
dakerpopey: i'll add that, just want to make sure that the compiled app works first23:02
cwaynecore dumped23:03
popeydaker: http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-14-000305.png23:03
dakerpopey: oh you are the man!23:03
popeydaker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6103746/23:03
dakerpopey: perfect, are you able to play a stream?23:04
popeynot yet, got a problem with my phone, rebooting23:05
dakerok tyt23:05
dakerpopey: is the button and the player getting out of the screen ?23:07
popeyyes23:07
popeyi see what you see in that shot23:08
daker:( ok23:08
popeycan test some more over the weekend.23:09
popeybut now, sleep23:09
dakerpopey: ok g'night23:10
cwaynesorry daker, not sure why it's not working on mine :(23:11
dakercwayne: no problems :)23:11
dakerat least i know how compile it now23:11
cwayneoh, did you do it in the pbuilder?23:13
dakercwayne: no i use chroot environment23:15
cwaynedaker, ah, that's very similar, either way good job :)23:15
daker:)23:16
mhall119daker: installing now23:17
mhall119daker: it seems to install okay, but I get no .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications/23:32
dakermhall119: ok, it does run ?23:33
mhall119daker: no, running /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.daker.rad.io/current/radio from adb shell and it segfaults23:34
cwaynemhall119, i saw the same, but popey was able to get it to run somehow23:35
dakermhall119: http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-14-000305.png23:35
mhall119popey has black magic23:35
dakermhall119: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6103746/23:35
mhall119either that or popey has a different build of Ubuntu Touch than I do23:36
mhall119I get QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display23:36
mhall119Aborted (core dumped)23:36
dakermhall119: ok thanks!23:37
* cwayne ran with the latest daily-proposed23:37

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