=== Deihmos1 is now known as Deihmos === anders3408 is now known as anders3408|afk [01:18] lool: we had a team dinner [01:18] lool: what's up? [01:19] ricmm: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-mir/0.1+13.10.20130913-0ubuntu1 === _salem is now known as salem_ === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [01:59] cyphermox: awesome [01:59] ogra_: ping [02:04] ricmm: and now I have that damned song in my head. I blame you [02:08] lol [02:08] cyphermox: do you know when the daily image builds? [02:08] not sure how to reach ogra/sergio for a spin [02:08] ricmm: no clue, I know nothing of the image [02:08] I guess it starts sometime via cron [02:08] nvm rsalveti can [02:08] I expect that "sometime" to be relatively soon [02:09] yeah, I can start [02:09] just a sec [02:10] I think ogra_ started one a few minutes ago [02:21] finally.. this guy sounds like me .http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded.core/41975 [02:21] I can play paplay just fine with wav [02:25] https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/meta-freescale/2013-August/004166.html [02:25] same guy.. still trying to fix it.. just like me [02:25] oddl enough, I could play mp3's without accept4 in my kernel, and a udev using up 99% cpu power.. then I could play mp3 in the music app [02:26] all the way through [02:26] add accept4, udev is now happy.. but.. I can't play a mp3 with qt, and gstreamer and pulse [02:26] but I can with just pulse, and I cannot do a gstreamer tone test with pulse in terminal.. === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === salem_ is now known as _salem === cul- is now known as cul === jono is now known as Guest64072 [05:46] Hello [05:46] I have one question. If I have Samsung Table N-8000, can I install on it ubuntu touch OS? === soul is now known as Guest89329 === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [07:20] zsombi: hi! I'm running the unit tests of ubuntu-ui-toolkit on my nexus 4, and one test fails: [07:20] FAIL! : tst_UCUnits::defaultGridUnit() Compared floats are not the same (fuzzy compare) Actual (units.gridUnit()): 18 Expected (8.0f): 8 Loc: [tst_units.cpp(36)] [07:20] zsombi: however, I don't think it's related to my patch [07:21] mardy, which one does fail? [07:21] zsombi: see the line I pasted above: tst_UCUnits::defaultGridUnit [07:22] mardy: yep, not yours [07:23] mardy: just to make sure, could you run the same tests for the trunk? [07:23] good morning [07:45] zsombi: just tried on trunk, it fails there as well [07:46] mardy: interesting... then why jenkins doesn't fail on that?! [07:47] zsombi: I wonder where that defaultGridUnit comes from... maybe it's device-specific? [07:51] mardy: yes, it is, depending on what you have defined in GRID_UNIT_PX env var [07:53] zsombi: oh, here it's GRID_UNIT_PX=18 [07:53] zsombi: should I unset it, or set it to 8? [07:53] mardy perhaps for the test we should set it for that value, but honestly the test should be fixed. [07:54] mardy: so, I'll let your MR approved, however I'm wondering whether Jenkins works or still has problems... [07:54] mardy: top approved [07:55] zsombi: thanks; in fact, running "GRID_UNIT_PX=8 make check" passes all the tests [07:56] mardy: I know, it's just the test is not realistic then :) [07:57] mardy now let's see what jenkins will do about [08:17] Good morning all, happy Friday the 13th and happy Programmers' Day! :-D [08:20] My app 'Solitaire Games' is released on the click store. But I have no phone that supports Ubuntu Touch. It would be really nice if there was someone that wants to test it and give feedback. === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson [08:25] mardy: uh, I need your branch landed!!! I started to get those segfaults in theme engine tests :D [08:26] zsombi: hehe :-) [08:50] can't believe all apps have icons and I can add apps and launch all apps in v45! [08:50] now testing mir [08:52] greyback: hey [08:52] lool: hi there [08:53] greyback: I'm getting less cases of double listing of apps [08:54] greyback: did you find anything worth fixing yesterday? [08:56] hi is there a phablet-flash flag to install the latest /untested/ images? [08:56] i'd like to test the click fixes in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20130913/ [08:57] dbarth: --channel daily-proposed [08:57] lool: not regarding the double-listing anyway. I know what is happening though, when qtubuntu launches the click app, it gets a PID. But that PID is of the aa_exec script. That script executes the actual application with the desktop_file_hint and a new PID. So shell things there's 2 instances of the app running [08:57] nice, thanks lool [08:57] dbarth: if you really want the cdimage images, use --pending [08:57] dbarth: but we've mostly moved to system-images now [08:57] greyback: oh so that's a false positive, there's just 1 instance running? [08:57] cool, so one down as well [08:58] dbarth: correct [08:58] greyback: i'll test your qtubuntu fixes now [08:58] i think they went into the image [08:58] they did [08:58] according to the manifest [08:58] super [08:58] greyback: hmm that's odd, I dont see aa processes here [08:58] greyback: I have e.g. sudoku launched, and it shows up as enforce mode in aa-status, but I see no aa-* processes [08:59] lool: yep, it's gone. But qtubuntu launches what's in the desktop file (which is aa_exec), and gets a PID back. The PID of the app is always higher, aa_exec must spawn the app and then die [09:01] I'll try to get it fixed today anyway [09:05] hi all. i am trying to port ubuntu to my android device but i am stuck at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting#Enabling_a_new_device [09:05] I have all the source code for the Device as a zip Directory and my question is how can i merge the source code of the device with its driver together with the ubuntu touch source code. WOuld be great if somebody could help me so ubuntu touch works on one more device. [09:48] dbarth: o/ [10:49] cjwatson: do we have the ability to remove click packages (nicely) yet? [10:50] because if I press on "Uninstall" the app is launched === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [10:52] popey: yes, as of click 0.4.4. the UI may not be there yet [10:52] popey: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-appstore-developers/msg00553.html [10:53] popey: I didn't give the pkcon interface there but it's "pkcon remove " [10:53] thanks! [10:53] (you'll generally need to quote the ID) [10:57] mardy: I'm afraid your MR won't land in trunk today === hikiko is now known as hikiko|lunch [11:00] WebbyIT: I certainly wouldn't exclude bugs at the scope level, but it should be fine in the underlying tools [11:00] cjohnston, ok, thanks :) [11:01] * cjwatson != cjohnston [11:23] Hello [11:24] trying to install touch-coreapps, but it deosnt work. [11:25] getting The following packages have unmet dependencies: touch-coreapps : Depends: ubuntu-docviewer-app but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, [11:45] gatox: hi! [11:45] sidnei, hi [11:45] sidnei, sorry [11:45] sil2100, hi [11:46] gatox: could we change the driver and maintainer for clickmanager-plugin? So that it's more 'team based' [11:46] Ah, wait [11:46] I see it is now [11:46] gatox: so, can we at least change the bzr branch as well? [11:47] sidnei, the answer is yes.... but i'm not really sure how to do that :P (i don't have much experience managing project in launchpad), can you tell me how to do it? [11:47] gatox: you paniced me for a second there [11:47] gatox: could you change the trunk lp:clickmanager-plugin to point to lp:~ubuntuone-hackers/clickmanager-plugin/trunk ? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [11:48] gatox: hm, I could do that for you but it seems I'm not part of ~ubuntuone-hackers ;) First of all just do a bzr branch lp:clickmanager-plugin; cd clickmanager-plugin; bzr push lp:~ubuntuone-hackers/clickmanager-plugin/trunk [11:48] sil2100, in configure code hosting? [11:49] gatox: this way you'll have the branch ready in the ~ubuntuone-hackers team [11:49] sil2100, ack, doing that [11:49] gatox: then go to the main LP page of the project, under Series and milestones click trunk [11:50] gatox: there under 'Code for this series' change the branch to the newly pushed lp:~ubuntuone-hackers/clickmanager-plugin/trunk ;) [11:50] gatox: I have packaging ready, I'll just change the links to the new branch [11:50] ack! :D === soul is now known as Guest42969 [11:51] gatox: I had to change the qmake file hierarchy a bit though! Hope you don't mind :) [11:51] sil2100, no, go ahead [11:51] But at least now it builds and executes tests on build [11:52] sil2100, awesome [11:52] sil2100, is in any ppa or anything so i can test it from scratch in a new flashed tablet? === mzanetti is now known as mzanetti|lunch [11:53] gatox: I can push it somewhere when needed :) [11:54] sil2100, great, thanks..... i just updated clickmanager-plugin.... now i'll update updatemanager === hikiko|lunch is now known as hikiko [11:55] Hi! I've just flashed todays build to my nexus 4. Should the Music scope play song that are on phone? Videos don't show up at all anymore [11:57] Also sounds don't work at all at the moment except from Music player.app [11:58] sil2100, if it's not much trouble... could you upload the packages somewhere..... so i can do a final test on the device and make sure that everything behaves as it should? (if it's not possible right now, don't worry.... i'll find another way to test it) [11:59] sil2100, also.... updatemanager has been updated too with the changes you just requested [11:59] sil2100, thanks for the heads up [12:00] \o/ [12:00] Thanks! [12:02] sil2100, also.... last question :P are you creating the bot to land the branches automatically? (i'm kind of confuse with that part) [12:02] in jenkins [12:02] for the MPs === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [12:02] gatox: we'll take care of that as well - we need to add it to our config and then have fginther do all the magic [12:02] But I'll take care of that after lunch :) [12:02] hey look, click package icons are working! [12:03] sil2100, awesome, thanks!! i really appreciate it [12:03] gatox: np. ;) === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === Nick is now known as Nick|Surf [12:16] anyone know why last night's image was not promoted? [12:19] beuno: I think we should eventually reject apps without an Icon=qmlscene or no Icon in the .desktop (IOW I dont think this type of bugs falls into the "users will give bad ratings" category) === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:21] lool, yeah, I think it our system can deal with no icon, we should let them (and let people decide they suck :)) [12:21] maybe QtCreator could warn the user when they are building a package [12:21] that too [12:21] beuno: it can deal with it, but it's super ugly [12:21] beuno: Not sure we'd want to allow that through [12:21] the QtCreator experience needs to be full linked up to the Touch experience [12:21] lool, or we could make it less ugly maybe? [12:22] beuno: it's going to be ugly if multiple apps use the same display [12:22] rickspencer3, right, that could be a better time to tell people to improve it [12:22] people lookup apps by their icon before reading the fine print [12:22] if you have 3 Ubuntu default icons, it's painful [12:22] so I think we shouldn't let it happen [12:24] sergiusens: hey! [12:24] maybe on the server, if there is no icon, we can swap in the icon that the developer provides to the web page [12:24] ? [12:24] lool, hey [12:24] dpm: bug 1223891 - click is probably the wrong place for this. Do you have (or does anyone else have) an idea for a package which would be in a position of consuming MIME types that could install such a system hook? [12:25] sergiusens: do you know what held the image from promotion yesterday? [12:25] sergiusens: Mir and Click stuff passed for me! (lots of tearing when I enable Mir though) [12:25] bug 1223891 in click (Ubuntu) "Allow click packages to register as mimetype handlers" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1223891 [12:26] cjwatson: hmm was it shared-mime-info on the desktop? [12:26] lool, well unity-mir was published 2 - 3 hours after our conversation, then we kicked of a cdimage build and after that there were some issues with utah (from what I read in the channel) [12:26] lool, but the results look good, just don't think anyone was awake by then to promote it [12:26] lool: Possibly. shared-mime-info is mostly delivering a bulk set of standard MIME types, though, rather than being the thing that consumes them, if you see what I mean [12:26] cjwatson, I don't know, I generally defer to the desktop guys when it comes to mime types. Perhaps Laney knows the best place to file that bug? ^ [12:26] Mind you, shared-mime-info also ships update-mime-database etc. [12:27] dpm, what is this for? [12:28] cjwatson, dpm if it's handler it should go in ted's uri-handler code [12:28] sergiusens, not sure, I can't recall if the reporter gave some more context on IRC, sorry [12:28] I basically don't want to be involved in this unless it actually requires extensions to click :) [12:28] sergiusens, so you can promote the image this morning? \o/ [12:28] My job here is to provide enough rope for other packages to hang themselves with in the appropriate way [12:28] cjwatson, you shouldn't [12:29] cjwatson: ah right [12:29] lool, tearing on mir on maguro is known, that's one of the reasons it's not the default [12:30] sergiusens: it's on mako though [12:31] btw messaging indicator is still missing on today's daily-proposed [12:34] -rw-r----- 1 phablet whoopsie 15904143 Sep 13 12:21 _usr_bin_unity8.32011.crash [12:34] * lool whistles [12:34] :D [12:34] cwayne: which is normal until we promote it I guess [12:35] lool, ah, thanks :) [12:35] ev: how can I track submission by whoopsie or force it? [12:35] cwayne: basically all landings are on manual [12:36] I guess things will move when asac comes up and acks promotion of current image so that we can move on to the next landing (indicators) [12:36] wait so we're going to promote an image with missing indicators? [12:36] cwayne: oh you mean it got inadvertedly removed? [12:37] lool, i mean i've got todays daily-proposed image, and i dont have a messaging indicator [12:37] cwayne: that seems anormal then; is this a regression over the current stable/daily image? [12:37] lool: take the sha512 hash of your system uuid and put it on the end of https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/ [12:37] lool, the latest stable daily i tried yesterday has it [12:37] I'll come up with a command. Bear with me [12:37] but the daily-proposed from yesterday was missing it as well [12:37] The indicator package is in the image, not sure why it doesn't display: ii indicator-messages 13.10.1+13.10.20130903-0ubuntu1 armhf indicator that collects messages that need a response [12:37] lool, yeah, i have it as well, just not shown :/ [12:38] lool: https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/`printf $(sudo cat /sys/class/dmi/id/product_uuid) | sha512sum` [12:38] oh actually [12:38] as I imagine this is a phone [12:39] indeed [12:39] no DMI [12:39] sudo gdbus call -y -d com.ubuntu.WhoopsiePreferences -o /com/ubuntu/WhoopsiePreferences -m com.ubuntu.WhoopsiePreferences.GetIdentifier [12:39] nothing uploaded it seems [12:40] is there a .uploaded file? [12:40] in /var/crash [12:40] https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/cf83e1357eefb8bdf1542850d66d8007d620e4050b5715dc83f4a921d36ce9ce47d0d13c5d85f2b0ff8318d2877eec2f63b931bd47417a81a538327af927da3e [12:40] no [12:40] let me put the phone closer to the AP [12:40] I suspet network isn't reliable enough [12:41] ev: i had two which didn't upload recently [12:41] yeah, whoopsie will drop a .uploaded file when it's done [12:42] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1224710 [12:42] Launchpad bug 1224710 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport eating cpu" [Undecided,New] [12:42] popey: oh? I vaguely recall you twiterring me and it getting lost in the noise of everyday life [12:42] np [12:42] I'll try to have a look in a minute - sprinting, so I can't promise my full attention this week [12:42] ev: answer my question too :-) [12:42] cjohnston: jerk === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [12:57] cjwatson: I think we would want a new app for what is described in the bug [12:57] cjwatson: I've commented there, but I was thinking something like gdebi [12:57] cjwatson: but you can declare the MIME type rules already, like apport does [12:57] lool: I honestly don't see how that's related to this bug [12:58] this is just to explain that .click is a click package, and/or that files which start with this byte sequence are click packages [12:58] lool: Er, we already have a MIME type declaration for click itself [12:58] lool: The bug reporter is asking for a way to ship additional handlers for other types in click packages [12:59] cjwatson: oh gosh, I read this wrong, I thought this was about installing clicks [12:59] Not AFAICS [12:59] cjwatson: you're totally right [12:59] I'm a bit ashamed with the mess I am these days [13:00] balloons: calculator got the new package, but still fails :( === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [13:01] cjwatson: at the moment we don't have MIME handling defined, it's something we could discuss at next click weekly for instance; the current ways we thought of are the url handlers and the content hub / content providers stories [13:01] but MIME is a valid one [13:03] loicm, ping [13:03] plars, lolololol === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [13:04] plars, I was trying to ping you the new design for calculator landed so you can <3 it now [13:06] morning all [13:09] MacSlow: pong [13:09] loicm, see priv. message === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [13:12] cwayne: what device do you not have indicators? [13:12] greyback: did we add some unit tests to prevent the qtubuntu stuff from happening again (at build time)? === mzanetti|lunch is now known as mzanetti [13:13] cjohnston, mako [13:13] lool: qtubuntu is missing tests entirely unfortunately. It has to be done, but other things have always been higher priority [13:13] cwayne: plars and I both tried with mako [13:13] no issues [13:14] cjohnston, i havent had it in a couple days.. [13:14] does it maybe not show up unless there is a message or something? [13:14] cwayne: all indicators? [13:14] i mean i did a fresh flash with --no-backup [13:14] cjohnston, other ones are fine [13:14] just messaging [13:16] greyback: that's quite unfortunate [13:17] cjohnston, you tried with mako on today's daily-proposed? [13:18] cwayne: yes, that's what we were running, and confirm the messaging one seems to be gone [13:18] plars, ah, ok good [13:18] i thought i was taking crazy pills for a second [13:18] cwayne: txt yourself you'll soon find out [13:19] davmor2, this is my only phone [13:19] lol [13:19] cwayne: yes text yourself, you send a text to your own number [13:19] oh right [13:19] cwayne: it's not like a phone call where it would be engaged :D [13:20] cwayne, davmor2: cjohnston is trying that now [13:20] he just had to step outside so he could get a signal :) [13:20] davmor2, still no indicator [13:20] lool: 100% agreed. It needs to be done. [13:21] plars, cjohnston ^ [13:21] theres also a spot missing on the indicators panel [13:21] I've confirmed it as well [13:21] cwayne: I think it is the space between wifi and bluetooth [13:21] yeah [13:26] tedg: is this a known bug about the messaging indicator vanishing? [13:27] tedg: Also ogra_ said to ask you about the big gap between wifi and bluetooth (that I am assuming is the space where the messaging indicator was) [13:27] davmor2, Not sure, larsu? ^ [13:28] davmor2, tedg: no known bug, but there are a lot of changes waiting to land (in both indicator-messages and unity8's indicator code). [13:28] so please wait with filing bugs until that landed [13:28] larsu: no worries, cwayne, cjohnston ^ [13:29] davmor2, ack, thanks [13:29] larsu: we are trying to decide about releasing [13:29] mterry, pingaling [13:29] stgraber, if i want to make a file removable on the ro image, what would be the runes for the config, does that work by just making it writable ? [13:30] mterry: cwayne is trying to be cute there so don't respond! Run, run for your life, be afraid, it won't be pleasant :D [13:30] davmor2, :P [13:31] davmor2, i think most people run when i ping at this point [13:32] cwayne, hi [13:32] :) [13:32] mterry, hey, i was just wondering if you had any insight on when accountsservice is actually started [13:32] cwayne, it's started by dbus activation [13:32] mterry, we're trying to run that command you sent to change the welcome screen in an upstart job, but 'start on started dbus' is too early apparently [13:33] can anyone here test my click package? [13:33] mterry, start on started dbus gives us this Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface 'org.freedesktop.Accounts.User' on object at path /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User32011 [13:33] larsu, Yeah, I'm kinda curious if some landed and some didn't. The state of things is so confusing right now. [13:33] cwayne, oh! You know, sometimes when it is dbus-activated, it doesn't process the command that activated it (seem to be some bug with AS itself). What happens if you run the same command twice? [13:34] mterry, let me edit the job and see.. if you run it manually after upstart it works, but it always worked manually [13:34] mterry, One of the joys of dbus activation actually :-/ [13:34] let me see what happens if you run twice in upstart [13:34] tedg, is that common? [13:35] can anyone here test my reversi app on a touch device? I don't have any and I don't know if the package will work on one: http://www.mediafire.com/download/rg7zeadj0vqungu/be.geelen.bram.reversi_1.0_all.click [13:35] mterry, If you start up infinitely fast there are no issues :-) [13:35] mterry, Depends on the service it seems, I haven't experienced it a lot, but most of the service I use are just doing activate at session start. The Novacut guys report a lot of issues with it. [13:36] mterry, Also most of ours are C based, I imagine Python is more an issue as well. [13:38] mterry, didn't seem to work [13:40] cwayne, :( [13:40] ogra_: so the 13 image does that have mir on it by default? [13:41] mterry, weird, it only shows the error in the log once, but it doesnt seem to work, as its supposed to touch a file in $HOME thats not there [13:41] ogra_, heyo, do you figure we can land the lightdm bits now? [13:41] cwayne, the upstart job touches the file? [13:41] sil2100, do we need someone else to review this? https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/clickmanager-plugin/first_packaging/+merge/185476 [13:42] mterry, yeah [13:42] cwayne, this is a system upstart job, right? Not a session upstart one? Can you pastebin me, just in case you forgot to plug the machine in or something [13:43] mterry, it's a session one, let me try it as a system one [13:45] cwayne, well, if in session, you might have policykit issues because my branch fixing logind hasn't landed yet [13:46] mterry, but would a polkit issue cause that dbus error? [13:46] maybe since it shouldnt be allowed to see it.. [13:46] stgraber, you around? [13:47] asac: Did you get my updates on testing? click status is quite good in latest pending image; I filed a bunch of bugs which were longstanding but were lesser priority than the critical issues we were seeing [13:47] asac: also the Mir touch thing worked [13:47] GuidoPallemans: (a) It's built with a very old version of click - you should use at least 0.4.3; (b) it doesn't have any hooks, so no desktop file gets installed, so your app can't be launched [13:47] davmor2, touch /home/phablet/.display-mir and reboot to get it. Delete the file and reboot to switch back [13:48] cwayne, I forget what you see with the policykit error [13:48] sergiusens: oh nice thanks [13:48] GuidoPallemans: Upgrading to a newer version of the SDK should hopefully help [13:48] cwayne, but it's odd that you only saw one error [13:48] mterry, making it a system one doesn't work either [13:48] sergiusens, do I need to update via an image or is apt-get upgrade good enough? [13:48] cwayne, can I see the job? [13:49] mterry, yeah let me pastebinit [13:49] mterry, ask asac and jdstrand, it isnt in my hands [13:50] ogra_, ok [13:50] mterry, for mir? You can apt-get upgrade I think and remove the QPA_PLATFORM line from /etc/environment [13:50] mterry, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6101719/ [13:50] mterry (and ogra): I was only asked to review the security impact. I don't really have anything to add beyond the email to ubuntu-devel@ [13:50] asac, I believe you requested not to land the lightdm/logind change yet, until you had a new good image? Can we land it soon? [13:51] jdstrand, that email seemed like it supposed we would never land my branch that fixes the policykit stuff... [13:52] mterry: I tried very hard to only discuss the current situation and not tie in lightdm landing. lightdm is not my call. sorry if I was unclear [13:52] jdstrand, sure [13:53] lool, maybe you can answer. Is it ok to extend ubuntu_commands to have a toggle to enable adb? [13:54] cwayne, oh I see, you want access to $HOME, so session upstart makes some sense [13:54] mterry, wait, i'm an idiot, h/o [13:55] mterry, plus it's really only setting this per user [13:55] cwayne, but since this is a lightdm greeter session, a session job will be too late for this [13:55] mterry, ah, crap [13:55] cwayne, you also only have the dbus-send line once (I thought we were testing with it twice) [13:55] didrocks: there's some delay, I got Launchpad timeouts... [13:55] mterry, oh yeah, i modified it on the device to do it twice but pasted from my branch [13:56] k [13:56] cyphermox: argh, all good now? [13:56] cwayne, I guess for now, while we still have a fake greeter, putting this in a user session job would be quick enough. [13:56] like, everything cleaned-swapped? [13:56] cwayne, but you'd currently hit the policykit bug [13:57] cwayne, you also try to make this code generic, but hardcode User32011 [13:57] cwayne, by any chance, I don't suppose the user you care about isn't 32011? [13:57] mterry, no, it is [13:57] phablet user is 32011 [13:57] OK [13:58] we'd make it more generic, but unsure if we can yet.. we'd have to know any user's uid i think [13:58] xnox: hey, can you help daker setup cross-compiling for is Ubuntu SDK app? [13:58] cwayne, yeah, you can get that info if you have $USER === waa_ is now known as waa [13:58] cwayne, which you would if you were in a session job. But we long-term don't want to be in a session job [13:58] mterry, ah, ok, but that'd need to be in a session one anyway then [13:58] didrocks: slowly, but surely [13:58] sergiusens: hmm sure, that seems ok [13:58] didrocks: I hacked the remove_package script to go through packages. [13:59] sergiusens: why does it need ubuntu_command actually? [13:59] mterry, hm, so what's the real solution here? we really just want to change the default [13:59] or dholbach, can you help daker? [14:00] mhhum, daker is not around? [14:00] ah, nevermind, my IRC client tricked me [14:00] daker, can you try http://pad.ubuntu.com/kYCIZSvOpF? [14:00] dholbach: o/ [14:00] asac: https://plus.google.com/110419250019099644591/posts/TUXwKU7FkRn [14:00] cyphermox: sweet! [14:00] lool, because once ubuntu_commands takes over it reboots when it's done and allows for no further interaction [14:01] ogra_, how does one enable ssh to start by default n the latest images? [14:01] pmcgowan, just delete the override file in /etc/init/ [14:01] sergiusens, whats it called [14:01] cwayne, do you guys have the same greeter wallpaper default as you do for the shell? [14:01] cwayne, or do you want to default those two wallpapers to different values? [14:02] cwayne, do you guys have the same greeter wallpaper default as you do for the shell? or do you want to default those two wallpapers to different values? [14:02] pmcgowan, /etc/init/ssh.override [14:02] dholbach: do i need an arm device to do that ? [14:02] pmcgowan, just delete that [14:02] daker, no [14:03] mterry: certainly not today [14:03] mterry: are you in the office?> [14:03] dholbach: do i need saucy to do that ? [14:03] asac, what's the blocker here? What sort of good image are you looking for? [14:03] asac, no [14:03] mterry: its not your turn [14:03] mhall119: there is a branch from dholback that does a native compilation under qemu. maybe use that? [14:03] mterry: and i have noone who can ensure your stuff lands regression free atm [14:03] daker, no, I don't think [14:03] regression free == dashboard and dogfooding [14:03] asac, turn? [14:04] didrocks: so as soon as that's done getting the list of packages to remove, it will remove them, and I'll be able to start indicators and webapps [14:04] mterry: we have other landings to do [14:04] mterry: is it just uploading lightdm? [14:04] asac, btw, once https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/greeter-launch-apps/+merge/185333 we can write that unlock script you wanted [14:04] or do you want to add it to the image? [14:04] nice [14:04] cyphermox: thanks man [14:04] xnox: dholbach is helping him now, thanks [14:04] dholbach: i'll try that tonight [14:05] asac, no lightdm has already been uploaded. I need to land a ubuntu-touch-session change from upstart to lightdm-autologin (which will add lightdm to image, yes) [14:05] thanks xnox mhall119 [14:05] daker, great, setup takes a bit to run, but afterwards you should be all set [14:05] mterry: that has to wait [14:05] asac, are all landings done one by one now or are you just in a particularly sensitive time for QA? [14:05]