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brobostigongood morning everyone.08:06
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nigelbMorning brobostigon08:15
brobostigonmorning nigelb08:15
JamesTaitGood morning all, happy Friday the 13th and happy Programmers' Day! :-D08:17
brobostigonmorning JamesTait08:18
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:20
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brobostigonmorning bigcalm08:26
bigcalmHowdy08:26
MartijnVdS\o08:53
brobostigonmorning MrFukinMoo08:56
brobostigonmorning MartijnVdS08:56
brobostigonsorry, tab fail08:57
popeyMrFukinMoo: you might want to rethink that irc nickname08:58
brobostigonany sugegstions for an android twitter app, which will update and check even automatically, even with android's auto-sync off.?09:13
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: uh.. that's the point of turning auto-sync off: so it doesn't do that09:14
* MartijnVdS likes the default twitter app09:14
brobostigonMartijnVdS: i want to be able to turn auto-sync off, and then say to it, ok, check every hour or so. and keep control.09:16
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: what's wrong with auto-sync though?09:17
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: All of android works like that: auto-sync off -> no (or a lot less) background data09:17
brobostigonMartijnVdS: i may not want everything to auto-sync, battery life for example.09:17
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: The screen is the biggest battery user, not the radio.09:17
brobostigonMartijnVdS: i agree.09:18
MartijnVdSalso, keep it connected as often as possible (I charge at home AND at work ;)09:18
MartijnVdSI never get it <70%09:18
brobostigoni try and do that also, but soemtimes circumstances make that difficult.09:18
brobostigoni will try the standard twitter app.09:19
mungbeanis 08438320100 a real number?09:20
MartijnVdSThat's numberwang!09:20
mungbeanbah. what good is reporting numbers anyway09:21
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: I have one of these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Duracell-Mobile-Phone-Portable-Charger/dp/B005EF2TG409:21
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: for emergencies, mostly09:22
mungbeansome numbers stay open annoying people for years09:22
brobostigonMartijnVdS: i recognise tht, i think you have mntioned it before.09:22
mungbeanany cyanogen users know how to add their own personal emergency calls number?09:23
MartijnVdSmungbean: what, it doesn't recognise 0118 999 881 999 119 725 ... 3 by default?09:26
mungbean:P09:27
popeyhttp://www.unknownphone.com/search.php?num=08438320100 looks like you're not alone mungbean09:27
mungbeanyeah popey its a pain because nothing ever appears to get done about them :(09:27
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Laneyhow can an off peak return nottingham-heathrow be 100 quid?!?!09:40
MartijnVdSLaney: Privitization09:41
mungbeanincluding flights ? :P09:41
Laney* massage and grape feeding included09:41
Laneyah09:41
brobostigonanother good exmaple. my gf asked me a few weeks ago, if we fancied a weekend in edinburgh, i said fine, looked at train cost, £270 offpeak return for us both. ouch.09:42
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: wow.. it's almost cheaper to fly09:43
Laneynice!09:43
mungbeanso you took her for a nandos instead?09:43
brobostigonMartijnVdS: exactly.09:43
Laneystayed at the travelodge by the m1 instead right?09:43
mungbeanvolume of spotify ads is LOUD09:43
MartijnVdSmungbean: Spotify has ads?!09:43
mungbeanonly every other song09:43
MartijnVdSmungbean: Ah wait.. I have "Premium"09:44
mungbeani use it to listen to songs which i invariably buy09:47
bigcalmI pay for Spotify so that I can use it on my phone10:53
popey\o/ Spotify10:53
mgdmo/10:53
mgdmI mean \o/10:53
bigcalmBecause of that, I can also use it on my android tv dongle and listen to all musics though the hi-fi connected to the tv10:53
mgdmthey added the new Arcade Fire track so I can stop listening to it on YouTube \o/10:53
bigcalmI should mutter something about using the mele f10 with the android tv stick10:54
bigcalmAt some point I might10:54
bigcalmAll good so far, though the air mouse takes some getting used to. Very much not like using a wiimote10:55
mgdmWe have those air mouse things in the conference rooms here10:55
mgdmthey're not that good10:55
bigcalmIt's nice having a full keyboard in your hands though10:56
bigcalmHaven't been able to connect to skype yet, but that might be because I'm possibly not putting my password in correctly10:57
bigcalmI want to find out what the remote is like as a skype handset10:57
mgdmreminds me a bit of https://twitter.com/mgdm/status/255352132029513728/photo/110:58
bigcalmHAha10:59
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bigcalmYeah, the mele f10 is much more remote sized10:59
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exutuxhi11:05
exutuxhi11:05
AlanBellhi exutux11:05
exutuxhi all ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6101144/ this is my little script to get information from network printers getting pdf, it doesn't run on crontab but I don't know why... do you have some advice? thanks in advance11:05
exutuxehy AlanBell hi11:05
AlanBellexutux: are you getting errors from it?11:13
AlanBellI suspect the environment isn't right when running as a cron task11:13
AlanBellor the network operation cant resolve the address or lacks some kind of permission11:13
exutuxuhm nope AlanBell any error11:14
exutuxwait maybe I found problem11:14
exutuxyeah11:15
exutuxgoal! :D11:15
AlanBellwhat was it exutux?11:16
exutuxAlanBell: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7607117/pdf-not-generated-using-wkhtmltopdf-using-automated-linux-bash-shell-script11:18
AlanBelloh, so a lack of X for the webkit bit to do its thing11:20
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exutuxbye11:48
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* mungbean is making fun 8-bit things out of hama beads http://i.imgur.com/lDgzR6p.jpg12:04
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daftykinshaha :D12:06
daftykinsi did something similar recently out of small mosaic tiles12:06
mungbeanfor my son of course12:07
MartijnVdSsure, "for your son" :P12:08
daftykins^ :D12:08
MartijnVdSIt's like "for a friend" :P12:08
* AlanBell bumped in to bug 1222436 already filed by popey 12:13
gordonjcphttp://media.desura.com/images/groups/1/3/2392/1-8BitCat.jpg12:13
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mungbeanlooking for new inspiration12:14
mungbeanmaybe pac man12:14
MartijnVdSmungbean: a pong paddle12:15
DJonesHmmh, are we missing lubotto12:16
daftykins"Your amazon order of GTA V has been dispatched" - :O12:17
popey[15682.569787] [drm:i915_set_reset_status] *ERROR* render ring hung inside bo (0xa951000 ctx 1) at 0xa95122012:18
popeySTAB STAB STAB12:18
popeymungbean: looking for something to do? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nerdyoctopus.gamedots12:19
popeythat game is fun12:19
popeyvery simple12:19
mungbeanlooks sweet12:21
MartijnVdSdaftykins: wut.. yours has?12:22
MartijnVdSdaftykins: mine is in the "Currently being dispatched"12:23
daftykinsyes sir12:23
daftykinsMartijnVdS: xbox or PS3?12:23
MartijnVdSDelivery #1: Dispatching now12:24
MartijnVdSdaftykins: ps312:24
mungbeanthey going cheap?12:24
MartijnVdSgot the text from my credit card company this morning (which always means they're starting dispatch)12:24
mungbeanah, gta512:24
popeyThat does look like a very special game12:38
popeyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rIJmGj4g-s12:39
mungbeanbut if the mugs didn't buy them then no consoles would get off the ground :P12:43
mungbeanhow's the ouya?12:44
popeyI installed netflix on it today ☻12:45
popeydead handy12:45
MartijnVdS\o/ netflix12:45
dwatkinsI really hope we get a linux version of Netflix soon.12:45
MartijnVdSdwatkins: we will.. once Chrome has HTML5-DRM support12:45
MartijnVdSdwatkins: it already works on Chromebook12:45
MartijnVdS(yes DRM is evil etc.)12:45
popeydwatkins: works in pipelight12:46
mungbeanso any nadroid can run netflix12:46
popeyyeah, i use it on android now and then12:46
* dwatkins goes to research pipelight12:46
popeynot often because the audio on android devices I have is terrible12:46
mungbeanspotify made unity freeze :(12:47
daftykinsMartijnVdS: i guess we won't be playing online then :(12:47
popeywhat version of spotify?12:47
popeyis gta5 not cross platform gaming?12:47
daftykinsit's not been announced for next gen or PC yet12:48
daftykinsonly PS3 and xbox360 are getting it for now12:48
MartijnVdSGTA Online won't be out for a few weeks either12:48
MartijnVdS(the online part of GTAv)12:48
mungbeanpopey: 0.9.1.55.gbdd3b79f12:49
MartijnVdSthat's current12:49
mungbeanalt-f1 pkill sporift resurrected unity12:49
mungbeani'm on 12.04 here12:51
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mungbeanhttp://petapixel.com/2013/09/12/marked-photographs-show-iconic-prints-edited-darkroom/12:56
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popeyhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Nokia-Dual-Music-Phone-Unlocked/dp/B005W3HOMM13:04
popeyso cheap13:04
Azelphurpopey: on the smartphone side, I'm a real fan of this one at the moment http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/HUAWEI_Y30013:05
Azelphurbrand new on pay as you go for £70, runs android 4.1 ootb, has a decent dual core 1ghz cpu, adreno 203, 5mp camera, microsd up to 32gb13:06
Azelphurreally nice piece of kit that one :)13:06
davmor2Morning all13:06
bashrcCould ubuntu touch be installed on it?13:07
Azelphurbashrc: I doubt it, atm ubuntu touch only supports the nexus line of devices afaik13:08
popeyif someone ports it, sure13:08
popeyAzelphur: nope13:08
popeyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices13:08
Azelphurwell yea, if someone ports it, sure13:08
Azelphurpopey: I was right then,I was almost right then, only nexus devices are officially supported, but lots of third party ports about13:09
popeynice device13:09
Azelphurthat's a very impressive amount of third party ports actually, I'm surprised13:09
popeymostly thanks to xda types13:09
Azelphur:)13:09
Azelphurbut yea, couple of my friends bought the Y300, and I got one for my mum, everybody reports it's good stuff.13:10
Azelphurbashrc: I notice the G300 is supported, the G300 is VERY similar hardware wise to the Y30013:11
ali1234lots of the ports broke with the container flip13:11
ali1234ie nearly everything on that list13:11
AzelphurI'm sure I've read that SOME G300 roms work on the Y300, so the build for the G300 MAY work13:11
Azelphurand if it doesn't, it's certainly not a huge jump to port it13:11
bashrcWould be nice to have an affordable UbuntuPhone13:12
Azelphurindeed it woul13:12
Azelphurd13:12
Azelphurbashrc: I'd be tempted to go ask on the G300 thread if it will work on the Y30013:14
Myrttibashrc: it's called "Nexus 4" from "Google Play"13:15
* MartijnVdS wants Nexus 513:15
MyrttiI wonder if I should order the Nexus 4 for my sister before they announce Nexus 513:15
AzelphurMyrtti: that's nowhere near £70 ;)13:15
AzelphurMyrtti: I wouldn't, you will probably be able to pick up a really good quality used nexus 4 a few days after the nexus 5 comes out13:15
MyrttiAzelphur: phones with hardware spec close to Nexus One from 2009 are close to 150€ retail over here...13:16
Azelphurhehe13:16
Myrttiso in that light £160 for a device that's straight from the package and has warranty left13:16
AzelphurI wouldn't get the 8GB, it's not really enough13:17
Azelphur16 is squeeze enough13:17
Azelphurdon't forget you have no expandable storage, no microsd, etc.13:17
MartijnVdSwho needs that though13:17
Myrtti... my sister still uses Nexus One. Vanilla, because I don't have a device to flash CM to test if it would work for her anymore13:17
MartijnVdSall I store on my phone are apps and podcasts13:17
Myrttishe doesn't even know what podcasts are13:18
AzelphurMartijnVdS: no podcasts in that space13:18
Azelphurthe OS uses like 3-4GB for starts13:18
Azelphurand then by the time you've installed a few apps, maybe one game, that's your 8GB gone13:18
MartijnVdSAzelphur: I use 1G for podcasts13:18
Myrttiall she needs is a little bit of space for the apps and some music13:18
Myrttibut she can't even have any apps on her Nexus One as is13:18
AzelphurMyrtti: games on android are 1-2GB a pop13:18
Myrttibecause it's run out of space13:18
MartijnVdSAzelphur: are/can be13:18
Azelphuryou can get away with 8 if you're doing the bare essentials, but apart from that, not enough13:18
Myrttishe hasn't even updated Facebook for over a year13:18
* Azelphur shrugs13:19
Myrttisince the updates don't fit on her phone13:19
Myrttiso *anything* would be better than what she's stuck at the moment13:19
Myrttiwell, almost anything13:19
Azelphurtrue13:19
AzelphurMyrtti: I'd get the Y300 instead of the Nexus 4 in that arena then, tbh13:19
Azelphurit has MUCH more space available, and much less wasted CPU/GPU power that you can't use because you have no space13:19
MyrttiAzelphur: I can't recommend non-Nexuses for her13:19
Azelphurno?13:20
Myrttibecause I've not used anything else myself13:20
Azelphurah13:20
Myrttiand I can't help her with non-Nexuses13:20
Azelphurit's not that much different, honestly, you can even flash it with AOSP13:20
Azelphurand then it pretty much is a nexus.13:20
MyrttiI'd give her my old Galaxy Nexus, but I need a spare phone for my travels13:20
Azelphuralthough I haven't tried AOSPing one yet, might do my friends soon13:20
Azelphurbut yea, the hardware inside a nexus is gaming orientated, it makes no sense to buy it if you have no space to install games, honestly13:21
Azelphuryou'd be just as fine on the Y300 with a decent dual core, and then you have a microSD card slot so can add a 64GB microSD and cram it with music, movies, etc.13:21
Myrttimy sister would be happy to just have Angry Birds and the bloody Candy game.13:21
Myrtti:-D13:21
MartijnVdSooh there's a bloody version now? 8-)13:22
Azelphurhehe :)13:22
AzelphurY300 would certainly run those, too13:22
Azelphurfor a budget phone, it actually has quite a bit of grunt, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axl3oF2ZmF4&t=8m50s13:23
MyrttiMartijnVdS: http://memegenerator.net/instance/3508111813:23
Myrttietc13:23
MyrttiAzelphur: is that the pink phone13:24
AzelphurMyrtti: no, it's the Y30013:24
Myrttimm13:24
AzelphurMyrtti: aka the £70 one.13:24
Azelphurhttp://i0.wp.com/gadgetizor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Huawei-Ascend-G520-phone-pictures.jpg13:25
bigcalmAnybody here use gitlab or trac with an external smtp server?13:25
AzelphurMyrtti: and then you just flash it with http://www.modaco.com/topic/363879-rom-b194-fusionx-b04-huawei-y300-jb-41-080913/ and tada, "nexus" :P13:27
mungbeanminecraft and hama beads seem to be made for each other http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/2240611/my/13:36
brobostigonis it possible to replace android's standard dialer prog? curious really, not thought about it, nor seen one on the market.13:44
daftykinsof course13:45
daftykinsi've never looked but everythings modular13:45
brobostigonyes, certainly is modular.13:45
* daftykins doesn't know what Candy Crush is13:46
brobostigonit is a popularist pointless game, that resembles tetris.13:47
daftykins512MB RAM on that Huawei Y300? ouch you don't want to run android 4.0+ on that if your sanity is important D:13:48
funkyHatdaftykins: I got android 4 running on a G1, so it can't be that bad ;D14:07
daftykinsugh that must've been nasty14:08
Myrttibrobostigon, daftykins: bejeweled blitz14:14
brobostigonMyrtti: ummm,?14:14
Myrttinot tetris, bejeweled14:14
Myrttigweled, kdiamond, whatever14:15
brobostigonah, ok, sorry, i havent actually played it, only seen pictures.14:15
DJonesArgh, IT support via pidgin with a 75 year old parent isn't simple, but finally successful14:15
daftykinsD:14:16
daftykinshow did you land that one?14:16
DJonesIt was either that or have to go visiting on my way home from work14:16
DJonesHe changed broadband suppliers & was installation of a new router14:17
DJonesHowever after last time he problems with his router, he disconnected every cable in sight and ended up plugging the desktop mouse into the router rather than the computer afterwards and wondered why the mouse didn't work14:18
brobostigonlol.14:19
daftykinsD:14:21
daftykins"but i'm mousing on the internets!?"14:22
brobostigonmore lol'z14:23
brobostigonMartijnVdS: which twitter android version do you have?15:40
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diddledanjoy: http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/09/security-of-java-takes-a-dangerous-turn-for-the-worse-experts-say/#!17:21
diddledanand twttr are going public with an IPO17:21
diddledanreallY? the analysts think twitter is going to be worth $10billion once public?17:23
diddledanhype. pure hype17:23
diddledanlook what happened to facebook the days after their initial offering - they went up fast and came down hard once people realised facebook is essentially worthless17:24
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