| Kilos | cremora minora | 05:18 |
|---|---|---|
| nuvolari | mornings oom Kilos | 05:32 |
| Kilos | morning nuvolari | 05:32 |
| Kilos | hi snowy | 05:32 |
| bduk1 | Goeie more almal | 05:45 |
| Kilos | môre bduk1 | 05:46 |
| inetpro | goeie more oom Kilos | 06:07 |
| Kilos | more inetpro | 06:08 |
| inetpro | oh and a good morning to everyone else | 06:08 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 06:08 |
| Squirm | 'lo | 06:12 |
| Kilos | lo Squirm | 06:12 |
| Squirm | Maaz: coffee on | 06:13 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 06:13 | |
| Squirm | Maaz: large | 06:13 |
| Maaz | In a beer mug just for you Squirm | 06:13 |
| Squirm | Maaz: larger | 06:14 |
| Maaz | inna bucket for you Squirm | 06:14 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 06:14 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Yessir | 06:14 |
| Squirm | just for those bored people who can spare a little data | 06:15 |
| Squirm | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE | 06:15 |
| Kilos | Maaz, spanne | 06:17 |
| Maaz | I will keep the coffee machine topped up Kilos so you can just help yourself. | 06:17 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos! | 06:17 |
| Kilos | Maaz, danke | 06:18 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 06:18 |
| Squirm | Maaz: botsnack | 06:18 |
| Maaz | Thank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp | 06:18 |
| Kilos | Squirm, please dont forget the hosting thing | 06:19 |
| Squirm | Kilos: it looks complicated for what you want to do | 06:19 |
| Kilos | aw | 06:19 |
| Squirm | will have another look though | 06:20 |
| Kilos | and dont forget first LPI class tonight | 06:20 |
| Kilos | starting with runlevels on the pink hat thing | 06:20 |
| Kilos | oh red | 06:20 |
| Kilos | ai! hit a hang | 06:30 |
| Squirm | hmm | 06:32 |
| Squirm | won't make the LPI class | 06:32 |
| Squirm | braai + lan | 06:32 |
| Squirm | and I know the runlevels | 06:32 |
| Kilos | enjoy | 06:32 |
| mazal | Morning everyone | 06:44 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 06:44 |
| nlsthzn | morning all *yawn* | 06:44 |
| Kilos | ohi nlsthzn | 06:45 |
| nlsthzn | alo uncle Kilos | 06:45 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning peoples | 07:20 |
| Kilos | morning ThatGraemeGuy | 07:32 |
| mazal | Morning ThatGraemeGuy | 08:21 |
| mazal | Have you guys seen that medibuntu is falling away. Wonder how we gonna get all medi stuff then ? | 08:57 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | looks like everyone is saying most everything in there is no longer relevant except libdvdcss, which the vlc guys will provide | 09:06 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | http://gauvain.pocentek.net/node/61 | 09:06 |
| mazal | You think we should go ahead and change to that repo now ? | 09:18 |
| mazal | I added this repo : http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html and it updated mine now | 09:32 |
| Kilos | sudo add-apt-repo http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html | 09:43 |
| Kilos | is that the command | 09:43 |
| Kilos | just that one package? | 09:48 |
| charl | good afternoon all | 10:45 |
| charl | very disappointed with the current state of xmpp implementations | 10:45 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 10:45 |
| charl | installed prosody, configured my dns, couldn't connect with gnu freetalk and centerim gave a segmentation fault upon attempting to register a new user | 10:46 |
| charl | ports were open and dns was configured | 10:46 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 10:46 |
| charl | apparently i need to speed up development of my new idea :) | 10:46 |
| charl | either that or start writing my own xmpp client/server implementations | 10:47 |
| charl | we need a good reliable, distributed instant messaging system | 10:48 |
| charl | and most of all secure :) | 10:48 |
| Kilos | do whatever is the easiest for you | 10:48 |
| charl | we need to solve this problem for everyone Kilos not just for me... | 10:48 |
| Kilos | ya but who else has the time | 10:48 |
| charl | enough people to make this work, i think | 10:49 |
| charl | maybe i should ask around on pirateirc if someone would be interested | 10:49 |
| charl | a lot of pirates are into privacy and distributed systems | 10:49 |
| Kilos | ask them lets hear | 10:50 |
| Kilos | only one here that commented was the pro wasnt it | 10:51 |
| charl | retroshare is a good idea but i'm just not so sure about the reliance on upnp/stun | 10:51 |
| Kilos | za peeps dont have time | 10:51 |
| charl | why you people all so busy down there, i thought africans were easy going :0 | 10:51 |
| charl | :) | 10:51 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:51 |
| Kilos | the IT peeps here never have time | 10:52 |
| charl | but that's true there doesn't seem to be many projects that get off the ground in africa | 10:52 |
| Kilos | hi superfly | 10:52 |
| charl | it's lunch time let's first drink some coffee | 10:53 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 10:53 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 10:54 | |
| Kilos | Maaz, whats for lunch | 10:54 |
| Maaz | Goats cheese on crackers and a bowl of salad for you fat people | 10:54 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 10:54 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Alrighty | 10:54 |
| Kilos | charl, what kinda help do you need? | 10:55 |
| charl | lol Maaz | 10:57 |
| charl | Kilos: programming, python/java | 10:57 |
| charl | this is going to cost a lot of work | 10:57 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! | 10:58 |
| Kilos | ai! | 10:58 |
| charl | i need to first document the protocol but for that i also need input | 10:58 |
| Kilos | Maaz, gracias | 10:58 |
| charl | Maaz: dankeschon | 10:58 |
| Maaz | Kilos: ¡de nada! | 10:58 |
| Maaz | charl: *blink* | 10:58 |
| Kilos | ask in lpi class tonight | 10:59 |
| charl | tls for connections, and for messages dsa for asymmetric encryption and aes for symmetric encryption | 10:59 |
| charl | udp for sending messages, tcp for receiving messages for the relay nod3es | 11:00 |
| Kilos | try that youngster in the states | 11:00 |
| charl | ??? | 11:00 |
| Kilos | #linux-studies | 11:00 |
| charl | cool i am on there i think | 11:01 |
| charl | what you ppl doing tonight? | 11:01 |
| Kilos | going through | 11:02 |
| Kilos | um | 11:02 |
| Kilos | runlevels and some more | 11:02 |
| charl | cool | 11:03 |
| charl | ok a starting point for the architecture: http://i.imgur.com/tZwKT1D.png | 12:13 |
| charl | each client connects to multiple servers | 12:14 |
| charl | and for routing messages between clients, the servers talk to each other | 12:14 |
| charl | connections between clients and servers are tls encrypted | 12:14 |
| Kilos | you must try get smile and theblazehen involved as well | 12:23 |
| Kilos | blaze has lotsa geek buddies | 12:23 |
| charl | i like this architecture because everything is encrypted client to server and server to server | 12:26 |
| charl | and over the encrypted tls connections you use another layer of dsa+aes encryption | 12:26 |
| charl | for end-to-end encryption between clients | 12:26 |
| charl | and if any of the servers fail, you can switch to different server without any impact on the client, it's fully transparent | 12:27 |
| charl | and if you use a round-robin algorithm to switch between servers for message delivery, you can't intercept all the traffic by only listening to a single server, even though the traffic is double-encrypted in any case | 12:28 |
| charl | hi henkj | 12:28 |
| henkj | hi charl | 12:29 |
| charl | and the client ips are only known on the servers, the clients don't know each other's ips | 12:29 |
| henkj | what is double encrypted? | 12:29 |
| charl | henkj: i think you missed part of the conversation :) | 12:30 |
| henkj | charl: I missed almost all of it | 12:30 |
| henkj | but you had me interested with double encryption | 12:31 |
| charl | check the logs in 30 mins or so, it should have updated by then, otherwise i can pastebin it for you | 12:31 |
| charl | ok lemme pastebin it 1 sec | 12:31 |
| henkj | thanks :) | 12:31 |
| magespawn | afternoon all | 12:33 |
| Trixar_za | I don't really use run levels so I don't really need to learn them | 12:34 |
| charl | me neither | 12:34 |
| charl | henkj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6101418/ | 12:34 |
| Trixar_za | It's more a systemd or related function ;P | 12:35 |
| Trixar_za | I tend to use busybox's init | 12:35 |
| mazal | Anybody remember who is the guys that took over remastersys ? | 12:38 |
| mazal | I can't remember now to go and check their site :-P | 12:38 |
| bduk1 | Buy everyone | 12:42 |
| magespawn | mazal ask Kilos | 12:43 |
| Kilos | oh my | 12:44 |
| Kilos | its not just runlevels man | 12:45 |
| Kilos | 101.3, 102.1 and 102.2 from the study manual | 12:45 |
| Kilos | 101.3 is runlevels | 12:46 |
| Kilos | mazal, sorry i dunno | 12:46 |
| mazal | http://system-imaging.blogspot.com/ | 12:46 |
| mazal | found it | 12:46 |
| mazal | Enjoy the evening everyone | 12:47 |
| mazal | Bye | 12:47 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ugh | 13:49 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | in std 7 my maths teacher always used to mock me for getting simple stuff wrong and complicated stuff right | 13:50 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 20 years later not much has changed | 13:50 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | just finished up doing a V2P, going from a single virtual disk (RAID happens at the storage level) to a software RAID set. boot both from livecd, mount source and target root filesystems | 13:51 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | configure networking manually, rsync stuff from source to target | 13:51 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | bind mount /sys, /proc and some other stuff like that, chroot into the copied target filesystem, run update-grub and grub-install to MBR of all the physical disks | 13:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | sit for a bit and figure "yep, that's all" | 13:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | reboot | 13:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ping ............ | 13:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | no response after 10 mins | 13:52 |
| nuvolari | pong | 13:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | and it turns out it booted just fine after all that, i just forgot to clear out udev's cached rules for network devices, so eth0/eth1 came up as eth1/eth2 | 13:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | :-/ | 13:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | on the plus side, only 4 more days here, woop! | 13:54 |
| charl | haha that's so funny i had that too | 13:57 |
| charl | with maths | 13:57 |
| charl | thought i was the only idiot | 13:58 |
| Kilos | inetpro, gaan huis toe | 14:57 |
| Trixar_za | Jy's dronk - sorry, got caught up in the "Go home X, you're drunk" meme | 14:59 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:00 |
| Kilos | hows the kernel work going | 15:00 |
| Kilos | Trixar_za, ? | 15:02 |
| magespawn | i am on my way home, later all | 15:05 |
| Kilos | later | 15:05 |
| nuvolari | o/ | 17:32 |
| kbmonkey | lo | 17:55 |
| Kilos | lo nuvolari kbmonkey | 17:57 |
| superfly | o/ from Debian | 18:01 |
| Kilos | hi superfly kde debian of course | 18:02 |
| Kilos | superfly, just testing or switched completely | 18:10 |
| Kilos | ? | 18:11 |
| superfly | Kilos: switched, like I said to you last night | 18:18 |
| Kilos | not to me | 18:18 |
| Kilos | i woulda remembered | 18:19 |
| Kilos | i member you talking about a quad | 18:19 |
| Kilos | i went green | 18:19 |
| kbmonkey | welcome to the darker side superfly ! | 18:32 |
| superfly | kbmonkey: I was always halfway there... just didn't have a huge reason to go through the schlep of reinstalling | 18:35 |
| superfly | new computer = reason | 18:35 |
| Kilos | aha | 18:36 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 18:56 |
| nlsthzn | o/ again uncle Kilos :) | 18:57 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:57 |
| Symmetria | man Im gonna miss this place when I fly back to kenya tomorrow night | 18:58 |
| Symmetria | mauritius is awesome ;p | 18:58 |
| kbmonkey | ;hello nlsthzn o/ | 19:02 |
| nlsthzn | Symmetria, ah nice | 19:03 |
| nlsthzn | kbmonkey, alo :) | 19:03 |
| kbmonkey | hiya :D | 19:08 |
| * nlsthzn is conflicted, watch the game tomorrow and suffer a lot on night shift or skip the game and only suffer a little ... | 19:21 | |
| Symmetria | mmmm | 19:21 |
| Symmetria | the one thing I miss about south africa | 19:22 |
| Symmetria | is that I cant drink water straight out the tap in the rest of africa | 19:22 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:22 |
| Kilos | watch the game | 19:22 |
| Symmetria | strange thing to miss but its a pain in the ass ;p | 19:22 |
| Kilos | and drink lotsa coffee at work | 19:22 |
| Symmetria | lol which game? | 19:22 |
| Kilos | za/kiwis | 19:22 |
| Symmetria | aahhh, lol, I only watch football ;p liverpool ftw! | 19:23 |
| Symmetria | oh and Im watching man-u games this season because it amuses me to watch them lose ;p | 19:23 |
| nlsthzn | guess I will see how tonigth goes... already feeling sleepy :/ | 19:42 |
| Kilos | more coffee nlsthzn | 19:44 |
| nlsthzn | koffiehuis finished... so no more drinkabe coffee for me here... now back on tea... but stuck on the panel alone so can't just go and make some more... grrrr.... | 19:47 |
| Symmetria | errrr | 19:47 |
| Symmetria | koffiehuis isnt drinkable coffee ;p | 19:47 |
| Symmetria | drinkable coffee = freshly ground beans outta kenya put through a proper coffee machine ;p all instant coffee must die :) | 19:48 |
| Kilos | no man Symmetria | 19:48 |
| Kilos | nescafe classic is lekker | 19:48 |
| Kilos | and encore | 19:48 |
| Symmetria | lol, how to know when you fly to much?. when you get to an airport at immigrations desk and the customs dude greets you by name before he's had a chance to look at your passport | 19:49 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:49 |
| Symmetria | kilos haha, tell you what, if we ever meet, I will give you a real cup of coffee | 19:49 |
| Symmetria | and you will never look at nescafe the same way again ;p | 19:49 |
| nlsthzn | Symmetria, anything from SA is ok for me :p | 19:49 |
| Symmetria | nlsthzn trust me, go and buy some proper kenyan coffee | 19:49 |
| Symmetria | or some columbian coffee | 19:49 |
| Symmetria | take your pick, they are as good as each other | 19:50 |
| Symmetria | ;p you'll never go back from that | 19:50 |
| nlsthzn | well arabian coffee beans apparently also some of the best in the world... | 19:50 |
| Symmetria | heh, columbian, kenyan, followed by arabian in third I would say | 19:50 |
| * nlsthzn doubts it... give me Frisco and I am very happy | 19:51 | |
| Symmetria | coffee and tea are two of kenyas largest exports :) | 19:51 |
| Symmetria | most of the high quality expensive tea you buy in the UK, all of that is kenyan | 19:51 |
| Symmetria | (kenya is known to make some of the best tea in the world) | 19:51 |
| nlsthzn | cool... didn't know | 19:51 |
| Kilos | they cant even make up their minds about ipv6 | 19:51 |
| Symmetria | Ugandan coffee is really strange | 19:51 |
| Symmetria | haha kilos who cant | 19:51 |
| Kilos | them afrinic okes | 19:52 |
| Symmetria | haha screw afrinic, I was in their offices this morning arguing with them | 19:52 |
| Symmetria | and what an argument it was :) | 19:52 |
| Kilos | they a bunch of half wits | 19:53 |
| Kilos | got nothing to do with progress. they all just scared someone else gets the lions ahre | 19:53 |
| Symmetria | kilos give me till May next year... then things will change :) | 19:54 |
| Kilos | lets hope | 19:54 |
| Symmetria | gnight all | 20:01 |
| Kilos | night | 20:01 |
| nlsthzn | night | 20:02 |
| psychicist | night Symmetria | 20:05 |
| psychicist | hi nlsthzn | 20:05 |
| nlsthzn | psychicist, alo | 20:05 |
| magespawn | good night all | 21:04 |
| inetpro | good morning | 21:30 |
| inetpro | Kilos: wat maak jy nog hier? | 21:30 |
| nlsthzn | o/ | 21:30 |
| inetpro | nlsthzn: oops, not quite morning yet | 21:31 |
| nlsthzn | well it is very early morning for me :) | 21:31 |
| inetpro | cool, so I was not completely wrong | 21:33 |
| nlsthzn | :D | 21:33 |
| superfly | hi inetpro, nlsthzn | 21:44 |
| inetpro | hello superfly | 21:45 |
| inetpro | Kilos: gaan slaap! | 21:45 |
| nlsthzn | superfly, alo :) | 21:45 |
| nlsthzn | I think uncle Kilos long time sleepy now | 21:45 |
| inetpro | yep probably fell asleep at his desk | 21:51 |
| nlsthzn | drooling over his keyboard :p | 21:52 |
| inetpro | ai! | 21:52 |
| nlsthzn | :p | 21:53 |
| nlsthzn | just saying if he can't type any "p"'s tomorrow and want some advice on his keyboard start there | 21:53 |
| inetpro | :-) | 21:59 |
| nlsthzn | other than that, all well with you inetpro and superfly ? | 22:02 |
| inetpro | nlsthzn: all fine here thanks | 22:02 |
| * inetpro just trying for the 2nd time to load Garmin Navigon on me note II | 22:03 | |
| inetpro | had about 80% of 620MB downloaded when the power tripped | 22:04 |
| nlsthzn | better than the navigation software from Google? | 22:04 |
| inetpro | I'm not sure really | 22:04 |
| inetpro | but am willing to try | 22:04 |
| nlsthzn | well I find I am using my phone more and more and not my Garmin cause it sucks :p | 22:04 |
| nlsthzn | ok it was a cheapy but still | 22:04 |
| inetpro | find it weird that I have to download a full 620MB but I guess I will be able to use it without needing a data connection once I start using it | 22:06 |
| nlsthzn | hopefully :) | 22:06 |
| nlsthzn | are you getting maps for the whole africa :p | 22:06 |
| inetpro | will be nice if that is the case | 22:06 |
| inetpro | strange thing is that I didn't have an option to choose | 22:07 |
| nlsthzn | hmmm... well it would be handy to have US maps if you ever go there | 22:07 |
| inetpro | so I really hope that I get at least the southern part of africa | 22:07 |
| inetpro | will be a real waste if I get the US maps | 22:08 |
| * inetpro not planning to go there any time soon | 22:08 | |
| inetpro | now I really hope that this thing could speed up a bit | 22:10 |
| inetpro | sounds like we have yet another thunder storm coming our way | 22:11 |
| inetpro | now on 64% | 22:11 |
| inetpro | s/hope/wish/ | 22:12 |
| inetpro | uhoh | 22:13 |
| inetpro | there comes the rain | 22:14 |
| inetpro | 460/620 | 22:15 |
| inetpro | nlsthzn: how are things on that side? | 22:16 |
| nlsthzn | late :p | 22:16 |
| nlsthzn | but ok I guess :) | 22:16 |
| nlsthzn | work work and some more work | 22:17 |
| inetpro | until what time is your shift? | 22:17 |
| inetpro | 85% | 22:18 |
| nlsthzn | 7 ... so that would be 5am in SA | 22:18 |
| inetpro | ok | 22:18 |
| nlsthzn | glad you think so ;p | 22:19 |
| inetpro | you don't enjoy the work? | 22:20 |
| nlsthzn | it can be rewarding and fun... however the company I am working for now has removed most of that... | 22:21 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 22:21 |
| inetpro | how so? | 22:21 |
| nlsthzn | day in and day out they expect the same little narrow output from you ... and because you excell at it you can continue with it :/ | 22:21 |
| nlsthzn | no chance for growth or anything new | 22:22 |
| inetpro | donkey work? | 22:22 |
| nlsthzn | repetitive... | 22:22 |
| inetpro | sounds like my first job as a salary clerk | 22:23 |
| inetpro | many years ago | 22:23 |
| nlsthzn | and trying to go above and beyond just leads you to work harder for nothing as nothing changes... | 22:23 |
| inetpro | became frustrating as hell very quickly | 22:23 |
| nlsthzn | the one thing I miss from SASOL... until I hit the AA ceiling | 22:24 |
| inetpro | yikes | 22:24 |
| inetpro | downloaded 100% | 22:24 |
| nlsthzn | whoohoo | 22:24 |
| inetpro | and now it asks me to select the countries whose maps you want to be available... | 22:25 |
| inetpro | ai! | 22:25 |
| inetpro | ahh | 22:25 |
| nlsthzn | wow | 22:26 |
| inetpro | on the list I have, Botswana, Lesotho, Namibia, South Africa and Swaziland | 22:26 |
| nlsthzn | bloatware? | 22:26 |
| inetpro | hmm... will have to test and see | 22:27 |
| nlsthzn | good article - https://www.usenix.org/blog/my-daughters-high-school-programming-teacher | 22:27 |
| * nlsthzn posts random links cause it is past 2am | 22:27 | |
| inetpro | :-) I read that link | 22:32 |
| nlsthzn | sad that it is still so rampant | 22:32 |
| inetpro | yep | 22:34 |
| inetpro | anyway, /me goes to sleep now | 22:34 |
| inetpro | will have to test this thing tomorrow | 22:34 |
| inetpro | funny new interface | 22:35 |
| inetpro | good night | 22:37 |
| nlsthzn | g night | 22:41 |
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