| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| Haggard | Hey guys. Power outages keeping messing up my system (13.04). After buying a ups, what should I run to make sure the filesystem isn't corrupt? Running fsck from the restore menu on bootup doesn't seem to do anything after initially starting. | 01:01 |
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| xubuntu748 | Hello | 03:20 |
| xubuntu748 | my webcam is not detected with cheese or with skype | 03:20 |
| xubuntu748 | can someone help me ? | 03:21 |
| xubuntu748 | how can I know my configuration ? please someone ? | 03:28 |
| ruien | xubuntu748: For me, my webcam has been detected automatically, so I'm unsure of the issue. But just to confirm, you do see it appear in `dmesg` when plugging it in, right? | 03:29 |
| xubuntu748 | No plugging, I'm using a laptop. It used to work, my webcam was also automatically detected. Not anymore. | 03:32 |
| xubuntu748 | I am a beginner with linux. :/ | 03:34 |
| xubuntu748 | I just learn 'dmesg'. thanks. | 03:36 |
| ruien | xubuntu748: i see, my guess is that linux doesn't have a built-in driver for that webcam. Sometimes you can add extra drivers to make hardware work, but it's not particularly simple for a beginner with linux. I usually stick to well-supported hardware, and often times cheap webcams and other integrated technology is designed with only windows compatibility in mind | 03:51 |
| xubuntu748 | thanks for your highlights, I will re-install xubuntu (I was planning too even before) . | 04:03 |
| xubuntu748 | Because it used to works, I was using my webcams for skype. | 04:04 |
| Psil0Cybin | hey guys when i do a rkhunter check i pick up that haldaemon has been added to the password file and group file | 06:12 |
| Psil0Cybin | is this normal? | 06:12 |
| === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson | ||
| recon_lap | having issue with SD cards, they don't seem to unmount correctly / stably , http://pastebin.com/1L2BzE75 | 12:47 |
| recon_lap | after removing the SD card I cannot mount another without rebooting. | 12:48 |
| xubuntu156 | hello I set up xubuntu a few days ago and have been doing everything thus far as sudo in terminal. I am now needing to log in as root to use file manager to do some things, I dont remember setting a root password | 15:14 |
| xubuntu156 | dadmineserve | 15:15 |
| recon_lap1 | back, OS locked up again. | 15:15 |
| Sysi | xubuntu156: use "gksudo thunar" | 15:16 |
| xubuntu156 | ok I will do that and It will prolly exacty what I need, but is there a defaulted root pass I must change, Is my concern | 15:16 |
| GridCube | !root | xubuntu156 | 15:17 |
| ubottu | xubuntu156: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo | 15:17 |
| GridCube | xubuntu156, your user is the user with sudo powers, that is, your user is basically the classically known as root user | 15:18 |
| xubuntu156 | thank-you I read that and it helped alot, I have not played with linux in many many years | 15:21 |
| xubuntu156 | bada bing good to go | 15:26 |
| recon_lap1 | xubuntu156: it it's been over 10 years you should be impressed with how much easier it has gotten to use. | 15:30 |
| recon_lap1 | if it's* | 15:31 |
| xubuntu156 | oh much so, in the last 2 days I have gotten ftp server up, web server with php, sql(not sure if it's right yet) ssh server(cant log in with main account but others I created are good) and hav a configured firewall with rules | 15:33 |
| xubuntu156 | so yay me | 15:33 |
| recon_lap1 | xubuntu156: you can do all that with one command, tasksel or somthing | 15:33 |
| xubuntu156 | show off | 15:34 |
| xubuntu156 | lol all good I am learnig something | 15:34 |
| recon_lap1 | xubuntu156: you might want to try it out next time you setting up a ubuntu box https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel | 15:42 |
| recon_lap1 | baa, SD card bugged again | 16:27 |
| recon_lap1 | is there anyway to reset SD card reader? | 16:28 |
| genii | recon_lap1: If you know what driver it's using, sudo modprobe -r <drivername> && sudo modprobe <drivername> | 16:33 |
| ngomes | looks like there is 2 new updates ... how come this happen ? 1 update then another update just right away ?' | 17:50 |
| recon_lap | ngomes: the second update fixes the first maybe :) | 17:50 |
| ngomes | but the repository tree is only 1 , right | 17:51 |
| ngomes | how can he check for updates , update , and 5 secs later telling me that there is more 2 updates | 17:51 |
| recon_lap | ngomes: maybe the updates are sequential , one has to be applied before the next. | 17:53 |
| ngomes | recon_lap, im not looking for maybes , im looking for someone who knows how update works | 17:54 |
| bazhang | ngomes, then we would need more precise info from you | 17:55 |
| bazhang | ngomes, for example, are one of them kernels | 17:56 |
| ngomes | recon_lap, the way i see it, the repository is updated , and at this time is freeze or static | 17:56 |
| ngomes | then the clients arrive and update to "current" packages | 17:56 |
| bazhang | ngomes, what version of xubuntu are you on, and what are the package names | 17:56 |
| ngomes | bazhang, common xubuntu updated | 17:57 |
| recon_lap | ngomes: I think of it more like a tree. | 17:57 |
| ngomes | 13.04 , it was xubuntu base | 17:57 |
| bazhang | ngomes, you said two updates, what was in the first, and the second | 17:57 |
| ngomes | i can recall the first ... i was not expecting the second, so it was normal to me , didnt notice | 17:58 |
| bazhang | ngomes, sometimes packages are held back until one is installed, then another becomes available | 17:58 |
| ngomes | bazhang, u sure about that ? | 17:58 |
| bazhang | ngomes, such as the case of newer kernels | 17:58 |
| ngomes | it wasnt new kernels | 17:59 |
| bazhang | ngomes, yes, absolutely sure about that | 17:59 |
| ngomes | it was xfce base | 17:59 |
| ngomes | im with 3.8.0.30 | 17:59 |
| bazhang | so some packages were held back. thats perfectly normal and even expected behavior | 17:59 |
| ngomes | i've read somewhere that updates now comes in phases for users | 18:00 |
| bazhang | no idea what you read | 18:01 |
| ngomes | dont know how they choose the first users to update tho | 18:01 |
| ngomes | that will update * | 18:01 |
| ngomes | i've read that for preventing everyone to get one bug from an update , ubuntu will distribute updates as in blocks of users | 18:02 |
| bazhang | thats not right | 18:02 |
| ngomes | so , if one bug is reported , the update wont screw the rest of the users | 18:03 |
| ngomes | it looked legit , wait a sec gonna search my browser history | 18:03 |
| bazhang | not important, its wrong | 18:03 |
| brainwash | phased update mechanism introduced weeks ago | 18:04 |
| bazhang | that would be by user *how* exactly | 18:04 |
| bazhang | it presumes very close hardware, and that certain bugs affect everyone | 18:04 |
| ngomes | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/phased-updates-to-start-rolling-out-for-ubuntu-13-04 | 18:05 |
| ngomes | here is the article | 18:05 |
| recon_lap | still trying to reset my SD card, device is mmc0 . | 18:05 |
| bazhang | and that "phased updates" presumes very active bug reporting | 18:06 |
| brainwash | ngomes: so which packages did get updated? check the apt history please | 18:06 |
| ngomes | well , thanks for your time , i now did the 2º update and the icon is gone | 18:06 |
| bgardner | ngomes: 1. Does not apply to apt-get, only to update-manager. 2. Only applies to 13.04. Are both of those true for you? | 18:07 |
| ngomes | brainwash, tell me how to do that please | 18:07 |
| bazhang | bgardner, thats very informative, thanks | 18:07 |
| brainwash | ngomes: /var/log/apt/history.log | 18:07 |
| ngomes | well , i was thinking that update-manager is a high level tool for apt-get ... | 18:07 |
| bgardner | ngomes: I'm with you, but it appears that is not a valid viewpoint in this case. apt-get explicitly bypasses phased updates, while update-manager participates in them by default but can be configured to bypass if desired. | 18:09 |
| bgardner | brainwash: Thank you, I didn't know about that. | 18:10 |
| ngomes | brainwash, http://pastebin.com/kFRUjkaC | 18:11 |
| ngomes | brainwash, as you can see , theres 2 starts and 2 ends today | 18:11 |
| ngomes | the hour from 10 am to 18 ( the second update ) was the time i find a way to do the updates .. the warning for 2º update was right after first sucessfull updat3e | 18:12 |
| ngomes | bgardner, where's that option to bypass phased updated on update-manager ? | 18:13 |
| bgardner | ngomes: I apologize, I misread the entry. That is a planned feature that does not exist yet. If you wish to bypass, use apt-get for now. | 18:15 |
| ngomes | Update-Manager::Never-Include-Phased-Updates “True” | 18:16 |
| ngomes | :D | 18:16 |
| ngomes | on /etc/apt/apt.conf | 18:16 |
| recon_lap1 | my laptop keeps locking up, wonder if it ubuntu or my laptop being over a year old :( | 18:16 |
| bgardner | ngomes: Serves me right for not reading more carefully. | 18:17 |
| ngomes | ill come back tomorrow for more chat about this | 18:17 |
| ngomes | brainwash, anything to add ? | 18:18 |
| ngomes | i've post my history | 18:18 |
| brainwash | ngomes: well, not sure what to think about this discussion, a bit confusing | 18:19 |
| brainwash | so you just wanted to prevent these phased updates to keep your system stable? | 18:20 |
| ngomes | i just want to know why update manager waited for installing lightdm:amd64 and liblightdm-gobject-1-0:amd64 then to tell me there's a new update about lsb-base:amd64 and lsb-release:amd64 | 18:21 |
| ngomes | why not at the same time | 18:21 |
| ngomes | as one followed another | 18:22 |
| brainwash | mysterious stuff indeed | 18:22 |
| ngomes | its the second time it happens to me | 18:23 |
| ngomes | well , gotta go now , maybe tomorrow there's someone who can enlight me | 18:24 |
| ngomes | thanks for your time , brainwash | 18:24 |
| brainwash | well, sounds like a great topic for the guys over at #ubuntu :) | 18:24 |
| ngomes | lol u sending me to #ubuntu ? :) | 18:26 |
| ngomes | ok , i see you dont care about it | 18:26 |
| ngomes | i will try ubuntu tomorrow | 18:26 |
| brainwash | :P | 18:27 |
| ngomes | bye for now | 18:27 |
| recon_lap1 | damn SD is totally flaky, it just stops working after a while. | 18:43 |
| bgardner | recon_lap1: Have you tried multiple cards? | 18:43 |
| recon_lap1 | bgardner: I have 2 different cards, I though it might have been the card, but not any more. it'll work, if I put the card in, use it, and take it out. I think it's either a time or file size issue with the driver or OS | 18:45 |
| bgardner | recon_lap1: Hm, not my area of expertise, but if you mistrust the driver you could unload/reload it between sessions to diagnose. My own experience with troublesome SD readers is that the reader hardware was bad/defective, rather than the driver or OS. | 18:47 |
| recon_lap1 | bgardner: could be, only recently had reason to use the SD card. | 18:48 |
| recon_lap1 | bgardner: my cheep camera has no problem reading and writing to SD, maybe I'll try that instead of the SD slot. | 18:49 |
| bgardner | recon_lap1: Sounds very similar to my experience. In my specific case, the laptop hardware was not supplying sufficient power to the SD slot for it to read/write properly, but obviously YMMV. | 18:50 |
| recon_lap1 | bgardner: could be, but how much power could a SD card use? | 18:51 |
| recon_lap1 | bet it's minuscule. | 18:51 |
| bgardner | recon_lap1: Agreed. I'm just parroting what the manufacturer told me, though. | 18:52 |
| nikolam | "When I think about Ubuntu, I think Xubuntu" .. I think people are using xubuntu so much more, probably to avoid Unity. | 18:52 |
| recon_lap1 | nope, getting a card error from the camera with that sd card now | 18:52 |
| nikolam | And then they learn they can choose environment on login | 18:53 |
| bgardner | recon_lap1: To rule out damage to the filesystem as a complaint from the camera, you should probably blank it (from the camera) and try again. | 18:53 |
| bgardner | recon_lap1: Er, unless you can't stand to lose the data on the card. | 18:53 |
| recon_lap1 | bgardner: dont think my camera does format | 18:55 |
| bgardner | recon_lap1: It may call it something odd (initialize, setup, etc) but I've yet to meet a camera that can't format a card. | 18:56 |
| recon_lap1 | look like reboot time form , bbl | 19:00 |
| recon_lap1 | remembers the bad times of using MS windows, feels dirty !!! | 19:01 |
| S1lly | hello | 19:49 |
| bgardner | !hi | S1lly | 19:49 |
| ubottu | S1lly: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 19:49 |
| S1lly | does someone knows how to defragment a pendrive in xubuntu 12.04 LTS? | 19:49 |
| S1lly | sorry for the noobie question xD | 19:49 |
| S1lly | but i really don't know how to :o? | 19:49 |
| Sysi | S1lly: copy all contets to your computer, format the pendrive and copy everything back | 19:51 |
| S1lly | i mean not format it | 19:52 |
| S1lly | just defragment it like | 19:52 |
| S1lly | if an archive is fragmented | 19:52 |
| S1lly | i need to do it with that file inside the usb | 19:52 |
| bgardner | S1lly: The method Sysi describes is the best approach, although the 'format' step is optional so long as the drive is emptied before you do the 'copy everything back' part. | 19:53 |
| S1lly | humm ok thx for the help :) | 19:55 |
| xubuntu670 | hello, my xubuntu desktop is froze up but I can ssh in and it seems like it is working, how can I restart the desktop without restarting whole machine? | 20:42 |
| bgardner | xubuntu670: Does Ctrl-Alt-F1 get you a terminal? | 20:43 |
| xubuntu670 | nope | 20:43 |
| bgardner | xubuntu670: Or from ssh do sudo service lightdm restart | 20:43 |
| xubuntu670 | ok well the account I can ssh into does not have sudo acess, I'll try again but it just asks me for pass over and over when I try and use the account I set up the machine with. | 20:45 |
| nantou | i need the access code for my internet provider, is there any way to find it on my xubuntu 13.04 machine? | 20:45 |
| bgardner | xubuntu670: Then you should try the SysReq magic, hang on one while I get you a link | 20:45 |
| bgardner | xubuntu670: Try Alt-SysReq and press R, then see if Ctrl-Alt-F1 works | 20:46 |
| xubuntu544 | Hi, I can not in any way make the flash work on youtube and radio tuna. Could you help me? | 21:47 |
| bekks | !flash | 21:47 |
| ubottu | To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash | 21:47 |
| xubuntu544 | Ok. | 21:48 |
| genii | Might want to install xubuntu-restricted-extras | 21:49 |
| xubuntu544 | Ok, I do not speak very good English and could understand only now, already have xubuntu restricted extras installed. Should I uninstall flash player and manager application to install only the version of the package? | 21:55 |
| knome | xubuntu544, what's your native language? | 21:56 |
| xubuntu544 | Portuguese. | 21:56 |
| knome | !pt | xubuntu544 | 21:56 |
| ubottu | xubuntu544: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada. | 21:56 |
| knome | if you think it helps... :) | 21:56 |
| xubuntu544 | Yes, thanks...have a good night. | 21:56 |
| knome | you too, and good luck | 21:57 |
| xstefen | !en | xstefen | 22:05 |
| xstefen | hmm lol | 22:05 |
| ubottu | xstefen, please see my private message | 22:05 |
| xubuntu406 | Hi, I have xubuntu restricted extras installed perfectly. But flash does not work. Use Firefox as your browser. What to do? | 22:14 |
| xubuntu406 | Could anyone help me with the flash player? | 22:17 |
| genii | xubuntu406: If you put into Firefox URL bar about:plugins ... does it show that a flash player is installed? | 22:18 |
| xubuntu406 | I'll check. | 22:19 |
| Unit193 | dpkg -l | grep flash is the one I'd go for, but alright. adobe-flashplugin in partner isn't a downloader script, flashplugin-installer in default repos is. | 22:19 |
| xubuntu406 | I have java plugin, vlc plugin, shockwave flash plugin | 22:21 |
| xubuntu406 | ii flashplugin-installer 11.2.202.310ubuntu0.13.04.1 i386 Adobe Flash Player plugin installer | 22:22 |
| xubuntu406 | I could watch youtube videos or listen to the radio tuna with another application? | 22:23 |
| xstefen | ive the same thing except amd64. in firefox->tools->addons->plugins do u see Shockwave Flash and 'Always Activate'? | 22:23 |
| xstefen | chromium browser has flash built in | 22:24 |
| xstefen | chrome* | 22:24 |
| Unit193 | xstefen: And you can use the chrome plugin in chromium too. | 22:24 |
| xstefen | ^^yes :) | 22:24 |
| xubuntu406 | Always active and worse, even plays video explanation of google addons. | 22:25 |
| xubuntu406 | or rather .. firefox addons. | 22:26 |
| xubuntu406 | I'll try to install chrome. | 22:28 |
| xubuntu406 | Or rather....Chromium. lol. Thanks. | 22:29 |
| xubuntu704 | I installed Chromium, but to enter a site that uses flash, the following message appears: Could not load Shockwave Flash. | 22:44 |
| bekks | xubuntu704: chromium is not chrome. | 22:44 |
| xubuntu704 | Should I install Chrome then? | 22:45 |
| bekks | Yes. | 22:45 |
| xubuntu704 | Ok, I will try. Thanks. | 22:45 |
| genii | Very strange, that. | 22:48 |
| xubuntu512 | Well, here I am again. I installed Chrome, and visited pages that use flash. But again, I could not load Flash. | 23:46 |
| xubuntu512 | Does anyone have any idea to fix this? | 23:47 |
| ruien | xubuntu512: what flash package have you installed? | 23:50 |
| ruien | and does it work in firefox, or neither? | 23:50 |
| xubuntu512 | Could you pass me the command to check this? | 23:50 |
| xubuntu512 | I'll try to open firefox .. | 23:51 |
| ruien | xubuntu512: dpkg -l | grep flash --- mine shows "flashplugin-installer", which is the package I used to install it. | 23:52 |
| ruien | if you haven't installed any flash package, then "apt-get install flashplugin-installer" should work. If you have, you might want to purge everything you've done before trying that | 23:53 |
| xubuntu512 | Nothing happens in firefox and chrome ... appears that ... ii flashplugin-installer i386 11.2.202.310ubuntu0.13.04.1 Adobe Flash Player plugin installer | 23:54 |
| xubuntu512 | I did the installation again, did the updates, I downloaded the Medibuntu and some trinkets in synaptic ... | 23:55 |
| xubuntu512 | flashplugin-installer is already the newest version. | 23:56 |
| xubuntu512 | How can I let Xubuntu as if I had installed it right now? I'll have to intala it again? | 23:57 |
| xubuntu512 | 'll INSTALLING again? | 23:58 |
| ruien | hm, i haven't tried it, but you might be able to load it in a virtual machine and then take a dump of `dpkg -l`, then take a current dump of your `dpkg -l` and `diff` them, then `apt-get purge` the differences? | 23:58 |
| xubuntu512 | Yes, I understand. I prefer to use a live cd of Fedora. I find it easier. Thanks guys ... good night. | 23:59 |
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