[01:01] <Haggard> Hey guys. Power outages keeping messing up my system (13.04). After buying a ups, what should I run to make sure the filesystem isn't corrupt? Running fsck from the restore menu on bootup doesn't seem to do anything after initially starting.
[03:20] <xubuntu748> Hello
[03:20] <xubuntu748> my webcam is not detected with cheese or with skype
[03:21] <xubuntu748> can someone help me ?
[03:28] <xubuntu748> how can I know my configuration ? please someone ?
[03:29] <ruien> xubuntu748: For me, my webcam has been detected automatically, so I'm unsure of the issue. But just to confirm, you do see it appear in `dmesg` when plugging it in, right?
[03:32] <xubuntu748> No plugging, I'm using a laptop. It used to work, my webcam was also automatically detected. Not anymore.
[03:34] <xubuntu748> I am a beginner with linux. :/
[03:36] <xubuntu748> I just learn 'dmesg'. thanks.
[03:51] <ruien> xubuntu748: i see, my guess is that linux doesn't have a built-in driver for that webcam. Sometimes you can add extra drivers to make hardware work, but it's not particularly simple for a beginner with linux. I usually stick to well-supported hardware, and often times cheap webcams and other integrated technology is designed with only windows compatibility in mind
[04:03] <xubuntu748> thanks for your highlights,  I will re-install xubuntu (I was planning too even before) .
[04:04] <xubuntu748> Because it used to works, I was using my webcams for skype.
[06:12] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys when i do a rkhunter check i pick up that haldaemon has been added to the password file and group file
[06:12] <Psil0Cybin> is this normal?
[12:47] <recon_lap> having issue with SD cards, they don't seem to unmount correctly / stably  , http://pastebin.com/1L2BzE75
[12:48] <recon_lap> after removing the SD card I cannot mount another without rebooting.
[15:14] <xubuntu156> hello I set up xubuntu a few days ago and have been doing everything thus far as sudo in terminal. I am now needing to log in as root to use file manager to do some things, I dont remember setting a root password
[15:15] <xubuntu156> dadmineserve
[15:15] <recon_lap1> back, OS locked up again.
[15:16] <Sysi> xubuntu156: use "gksudo thunar"
[15:16] <xubuntu156> ok I will do that and It will prolly exacty what I need, but is there a defaulted root pass I must change, Is my concern
[15:17] <GridCube> !root | xubuntu156
[15:18] <GridCube> xubuntu156, your user is the user with sudo powers, that is, your user is basically the classically known as root user
[15:21] <xubuntu156> thank-you I read that and it helped alot, I have not played with linux in many many years
[15:26] <xubuntu156> bada bing good to go
[15:30] <recon_lap1> xubuntu156: it it's been over 10 years you should be impressed with how much easier it has gotten to use.
[15:31] <recon_lap1> if it's*
[15:33] <xubuntu156> oh much so, in the last 2 days I have gotten ftp server up, web server with php, sql(not sure if it's right yet) ssh server(cant log in with main account but others I created are good) and hav a configured firewall with rules
[15:33] <xubuntu156> so yay me
[15:33] <recon_lap1> xubuntu156: you can do all that with one command, tasksel or somthing
[15:34] <xubuntu156> show off
[15:34] <xubuntu156> lol all good I am learnig something
[15:42] <recon_lap1> xubuntu156: you might want to try it out next time you setting up a ubuntu box https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel
[16:27] <recon_lap1> baa, SD card bugged again
[16:28] <recon_lap1> is there anyway to reset SD card reader?
[16:33] <genii> recon_lap1: If you know what driver it's using, sudo modprobe -r <drivername> && sudo modprobe <drivername>
[17:50] <ngomes> looks like there is 2 new updates ... how come this happen ? 1 update then another update just right away ?'
[17:50] <recon_lap> ngomes: the second update fixes the first maybe :)
[17:51] <ngomes> but the repository tree is only 1 , right
[17:51] <ngomes> how can he check for updates , update , and 5 secs later telling me that there is more 2 updates
[17:53] <recon_lap> ngomes: maybe the updates are sequential , one has to be applied before the next.
[17:54] <ngomes> recon_lap, im not looking for maybes , im looking for someone who knows how update works
[17:55] <bazhang> ngomes, then we would need more precise info from you
[17:56] <bazhang> ngomes, for example, are one of them kernels
[17:56] <ngomes> recon_lap, the way i see it, the repository is updated , and at this time is freeze or static
[17:56] <ngomes> then the clients arrive and update to "current" packages
[17:56] <bazhang> ngomes, what version of xubuntu are you on, and what are the package names
[17:57] <ngomes> bazhang, common xubuntu updated
[17:57] <recon_lap> ngomes: I think of it more like a tree.
[17:57] <ngomes> 13.04 , it was xubuntu base
[17:57] <bazhang> ngomes, you said two updates, what was in the first, and the second
[17:58] <ngomes> i can recall the first ... i was not expecting the second, so it was normal to me , didnt notice
[17:58] <bazhang> ngomes, sometimes packages are held back until one is installed, then another becomes available
[17:58] <ngomes> bazhang, u sure about that ?
[17:58] <bazhang> ngomes, such as the case of newer kernels
[17:59] <ngomes> it wasnt new kernels
[17:59] <bazhang> ngomes, yes, absolutely sure about that
[17:59] <ngomes> it was xfce base
[17:59] <ngomes> im with 3.8.0.30
[17:59] <bazhang> so some packages were held back. thats perfectly normal and even expected behavior
[18:00] <ngomes> i've read somewhere that updates now comes in phases for users
[18:01] <bazhang> no idea what you read
[18:01] <ngomes> dont know how they choose the first users to update tho
[18:01] <ngomes> that will update *
[18:02] <ngomes> i've read that for preventing everyone to get one bug from an update , ubuntu will distribute updates as in blocks of users
[18:02] <bazhang> thats not right
[18:03] <ngomes> so , if one bug is reported , the update wont screw the rest of the users
[18:03] <ngomes> it looked legit , wait a sec gonna search my browser history
[18:03] <bazhang> not important, its wrong
[18:04] <brainwash> phased update mechanism introduced weeks ago
[18:04] <bazhang> that would be by user *how* exactly
[18:04] <bazhang> it presumes very close hardware, and that certain bugs affect everyone
[18:05] <ngomes> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/phased-updates-to-start-rolling-out-for-ubuntu-13-04
[18:05] <ngomes> here is the article
[18:05] <recon_lap> still trying to reset my SD card, device is mmc0 .
[18:06] <bazhang> and that "phased updates" presumes very active bug reporting
[18:06] <brainwash> ngomes: so which packages did get updated? check the apt history please
[18:06] <ngomes> well , thanks for your time , i now did the 2º update and the icon is gone
[18:07] <bgardner> ngomes: 1. Does not apply to apt-get, only to update-manager.  2. Only applies to 13.04.  Are both of those true for you?
[18:07] <ngomes> brainwash, tell me how to do that  please
[18:07] <bazhang> bgardner, thats very informative, thanks
[18:07] <brainwash> ngomes: /var/log/apt/history.log
[18:07] <ngomes> well , i was thinking that update-manager is a high level tool for apt-get ...
[18:09] <bgardner> ngomes: I'm with you, but it appears that is not a valid viewpoint in this case.  apt-get explicitly bypasses phased updates, while update-manager participates in them by default but can be configured to bypass if desired.
[18:10] <bgardner> brainwash: Thank you, I didn't know about that.
[18:11] <ngomes> brainwash, http://pastebin.com/kFRUjkaC
[18:11] <ngomes> brainwash,  as you can see , theres 2 starts and 2 ends today
[18:12] <ngomes> the hour from 10 am to 18 ( the second update ) was the time i find a way to do the updates .. the warning for 2º update was right after first sucessfull updat3e
[18:13] <ngomes> bgardner, where's that option to bypass phased updated on update-manager ?
[18:15] <bgardner> ngomes: I apologize, I misread the entry.  That is a planned feature that does not exist yet.  If you wish to bypass, use apt-get for now.
[18:16] <ngomes> Update-Manager::Never-Include-Phased-Updates “True”
[18:16] <ngomes> :D
[18:16] <ngomes> on /etc/apt/apt.conf
[18:16] <recon_lap1> my laptop keeps locking up, wonder if it ubuntu or my laptop being over a year old :(
[18:17] <bgardner> ngomes: Serves me right for not reading more carefully.
[18:17] <ngomes> ill come back tomorrow for more chat about this
[18:18] <ngomes> brainwash, anything to add ?
[18:18] <ngomes> i've post my history
[18:19] <brainwash> ngomes: well, not sure what to think about this discussion, a bit confusing
[18:20] <brainwash> so you just wanted to prevent these phased updates to keep your system stable?
[18:21] <ngomes> i just want to know why update manager waited for installing lightdm:amd64 and liblightdm-gobject-1-0:amd64 then to tell me there's a new update about lsb-base:amd64 and lsb-release:amd64
[18:21] <ngomes> why not at the same time
[18:22] <ngomes> as one followed another
[18:22] <brainwash> mysterious stuff indeed
[18:23] <ngomes> its the second time it happens to me
[18:24] <ngomes> well , gotta go now , maybe tomorrow there's someone who can enlight me
[18:24] <ngomes> thanks for your time , brainwash
[18:24] <brainwash> well, sounds like a great topic for the guys over at #ubuntu :)
[18:26] <ngomes> lol u sending me to #ubuntu ? :)
[18:26] <ngomes> ok , i see you dont care about it
[18:26] <ngomes> i will try ubuntu tomorrow
[18:27] <brainwash> :P
[18:27] <ngomes> bye for now
[18:43] <recon_lap1> damn SD is totally flaky, it just stops working after a while.
[18:43] <bgardner> recon_lap1: Have you tried multiple cards?
[18:45] <recon_lap1> bgardner: I have 2 different cards, I though it might have been the card, but not any more. it'll work, if I put the card in, use it, and take it out. I think it's either a time or file size issue with the driver or OS
[18:47] <bgardner> recon_lap1: Hm, not my area of expertise, but if you mistrust the driver you could unload/reload it between sessions to diagnose.  My own experience with troublesome SD readers is that the reader hardware was bad/defective, rather than the driver or OS.
[18:48] <recon_lap1> bgardner: could be, only recently had reason to use the SD card.
[18:49] <recon_lap1> bgardner: my cheep camera has no problem reading and writing to SD, maybe I'll try that instead of the SD slot.
[18:50] <bgardner> recon_lap1: Sounds very similar to my experience.  In my specific case, the laptop hardware was not supplying sufficient power to the SD slot for it to read/write properly, but obviously YMMV.
[18:51] <recon_lap1> bgardner: could be, but how much power could a SD card use?
[18:51] <recon_lap1> bet it's minuscule.
[18:52] <bgardner> recon_lap1: Agreed.  I'm just parroting what the manufacturer told me, though.
[18:52] <nikolam> "When I think about Ubuntu, I think Xubuntu" .. I think people are using xubuntu so much more, probably to avoid Unity.
[18:52] <recon_lap1> nope, getting a card error from the camera with that sd card now
[18:53] <nikolam> And then they learn they can choose environment on login
[18:53] <bgardner> recon_lap1: To rule out damage to the filesystem as a complaint from the camera, you should probably blank it (from the camera) and try again.
[18:53] <bgardner> recon_lap1: Er, unless you can't stand to lose the data on the card.
[18:55] <recon_lap1> bgardner: dont think my camera does format
[18:56] <bgardner> recon_lap1: It may call it something odd (initialize, setup, etc) but I've yet to meet a camera that can't format a card.
[19:00] <recon_lap1> look like reboot time form , bbl
[19:01] <recon_lap1> remembers the bad times of using MS windows, feels dirty !!!
[19:49] <S1lly> hello
[19:49] <bgardner> !hi | S1lly
[19:49] <S1lly> does someone knows how to defragment a pendrive in xubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[19:49] <S1lly> sorry for the noobie question xD
[19:49] <S1lly> but i really don't know how to :o?
[19:51] <Sysi> S1lly: copy all contets to your computer, format the pendrive and copy everything back
[19:52] <S1lly> i mean not format it
[19:52] <S1lly> just defragment it like
[19:52] <S1lly> if an archive is fragmented
[19:52] <S1lly> i need to do it with that file inside the usb
[19:53] <bgardner> S1lly: The method Sysi describes is the best approach, although the 'format' step is optional so long as the drive is emptied before you do the 'copy everything back' part.
[19:55] <S1lly> humm ok thx for the help :)
[20:42] <xubuntu670> hello, my xubuntu desktop is froze up but I can ssh in and it seems like it is working, how can I restart the desktop without restarting whole machine?
[20:43] <bgardner> xubuntu670: Does Ctrl-Alt-F1 get you a terminal?
[20:43] <xubuntu670> nope
[20:43] <bgardner> xubuntu670: Or from ssh do sudo service lightdm restart
[20:45] <xubuntu670> ok well the account I can ssh into does not have sudo acess, I'll try again but it just asks me for pass over and over when I try and use the account I set up the machine with.
[20:45] <nantou> i need the access code for my internet provider, is there any way to find it on my xubuntu 13.04 machine?
[20:45] <bgardner> xubuntu670: Then you should try the SysReq magic, hang on one while I get you a link
[20:46] <bgardner> xubuntu670: Try Alt-SysReq and press R, then see if Ctrl-Alt-F1 works
[21:47] <xubuntu544> Hi, I can not in any way make the flash work on youtube and radio tuna. Could you help me?
[21:47] <bekks> !flash
[21:48] <xubuntu544> Ok.
[21:49] <genii> Might want to install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:55] <xubuntu544> Ok, I do not speak very good English and could understand only now, already have xubuntu restricted extras installed. Should I uninstall flash player and manager application to install only the version of the package?
[21:56] <knome> xubuntu544, what's your native language?
[21:56] <xubuntu544> Portuguese.
[21:56] <knome> !pt | xubuntu544
[21:56] <knome> if you think it helps... :)
[21:56] <xubuntu544> Yes, thanks...have a good night.
[21:57] <knome> you too, and good luck
[22:05] <xstefen> !en | xstefen
[22:05] <xstefen> hmm lol
[22:14] <xubuntu406> Hi, I have xubuntu restricted extras installed perfectly. But flash does not work. Use Firefox as your browser. What to do?
[22:17] <xubuntu406> Could anyone help me with the flash player?
[22:18] <genii> xubuntu406: If you put into Firefox URL bar   about:plugins    ... does it show that a flash player is installed?
[22:19] <xubuntu406> I'll check.
[22:19] <Unit193> dpkg -l | grep flash   is the one I'd go for, but alright.  adobe-flashplugin in partner isn't a downloader script, flashplugin-installer in default repos is.
[22:21] <xubuntu406> I have java plugin, vlc plugin, shockwave flash plugin
[22:22] <xubuntu406> ii  flashplugin-installer                11.2.202.310ubuntu0.13.04.1            i386         Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[22:23] <xubuntu406> I could watch youtube videos or listen to the radio tuna with another application?
[22:23] <xstefen> ive the same thing except amd64. in firefox->tools->addons->plugins do u see Shockwave Flash and 'Always Activate'?
[22:24] <xstefen> chromium browser has flash built in
[22:24] <xstefen> chrome*
[22:24] <Unit193> xstefen: And you can use the chrome plugin in chromium too.
[22:24] <xstefen> ^^yes :)
[22:25] <xubuntu406> Always active and worse, even plays video explanation of google addons.
[22:26] <xubuntu406> or rather .. firefox addons.
[22:28] <xubuntu406> I'll try to install chrome.
[22:29] <xubuntu406> Or rather....Chromium. lol. Thanks.
[22:44] <xubuntu704> I installed Chromium, but to enter a site that uses flash, the following message appears: Could not load Shockwave Flash.
[22:44] <bekks> xubuntu704: chromium is not chrome.
[22:45] <xubuntu704> Should I install Chrome then?
[22:45] <bekks> Yes.
[22:45] <xubuntu704> Ok, I will try. Thanks.
[22:48] <genii> Very strange, that.
[23:46] <xubuntu512> Well, here I am again. I installed Chrome, and visited pages that use flash. But again, I could not load Flash.
[23:47] <xubuntu512> Does anyone have any idea to fix this?
[23:50] <ruien> xubuntu512: what flash package have you installed?
[23:50] <ruien> and does it work in firefox, or neither?
[23:50] <xubuntu512> Could you pass me the command to check this?
[23:51] <xubuntu512> I'll try to open firefox ..
[23:52] <ruien> xubuntu512: dpkg -l | grep flash   ---   mine shows "flashplugin-installer", which is the package I used to install it.
[23:53] <ruien> if you haven't installed any flash package, then "apt-get install flashplugin-installer" should work. If you have, you might want to purge everything you've done before trying that
[23:54] <xubuntu512> Nothing happens in firefox and chrome ... appears that ... ii flashplugin-installer i386 11.2.202.310ubuntu0.13.04.1 Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[23:55] <xubuntu512> I did the installation again, did the updates, I downloaded the Medibuntu and some trinkets in synaptic ...
[23:56] <xubuntu512> flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.
[23:57] <xubuntu512> How can I let Xubuntu as if I had installed it right now? I'll have to intala it again?
[23:58] <xubuntu512>  'll INSTALLING again?
[23:58] <ruien> hm, i haven't tried it, but you might be able to load it in a virtual machine and then take a dump of `dpkg -l`, then take a current dump of your `dpkg -l` and `diff` them, then `apt-get purge` the differences?
[23:59] <xubuntu512> Yes, I understand. I prefer to use a live cd of Fedora. I find it easier. Thanks guys ... good night.