[01:13] <Noskcaj> Is an anti-bitesize tag? I.E. You can't fix this bug unless you have a complete knowledge of C++, debhelper and symbols files?
[01:13] <Noskcaj> I'm only half joking
[12:26] <wagafo> Somebody knowledgeable in update-manager may be can take a look to comment 3 in bug 294139? It seems to have a clear description of the problem if it still there in the current code.
[12:26] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 294139 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager fail release upgrade if using apt-cacher " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/294139
[12:30] <penguin42> wagafo: I don't know anything about apt-cacher to be honest, but can you just clarify which version you says it's still present in
[14:25] <wagafo> penguin42: sorry just saw your message. The description reported is for the quantal version 1:0.174.3
[14:25] <wagafo> penguin42: the original report is for a much older version, so it seems the problem has been around for some quite time
[15:31] <penguin42> wagafo: but it's said to still happen in current code - was Quantal what you tested on?
[15:34] <wagafo_> penguin42: I'm not the OP, I'm just triaging the bug, I was just asking because it seemed to me quite straightforward what comment 3 describes
[15:35] <penguin42> wagafo_: so is it update-manager or apt-cacher that needs fixing
 It seems that comment 3 is on apt-cacher
[15:38] <penguin42> wagafo_: right, so I don't know enough about it - if it's just one doesn't work with the other then perhaps it doesn't matter, or should we add an apt-cacher bug for it?
[15:41] <wagafo_> penguin42: I think it is already filed also against apt-cacher, but if not I will add it to the bug, thanks anyway for your interest
[15:41] <penguin42> no problem
[16:14] <TheLordOfTime> so... a bug day today?
[16:15] <TheLordOfTime> (see the bugsquad list)
[16:15] <chilicuil> yep TheLordOfTime, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20130914
[16:15] <smartboyhw> Time to squash bugs people
[16:15] <chilicuil> yeeei
[16:15] <TheLordOfTime> chilicuil, i'm assuming that it'd be a good idea to make myself available for bugcontrol stuffs :P
[16:15] <smartboyhw> TheLordOfTime, you should be able to kill 100 of those within 1 hour;)
[16:15] <TheLordOfTime> smartboyhw, ehhhh
[16:15]  * penguin42 hands out the fly swatters
[16:15] <TheLordOfTime> i can't actually...
[16:16]  * smartboyhw suddenly realizes he's bug control member now-.-
[16:16] <smartboyhw> Uh oh
[16:16]  * smartboyhw hides
[16:16] <chilicuil> smartboyhw: then, forget the idea about going to sleep =)
[16:16] <TheLordOfTime> smartboyhw, i'm actually a little busyish but around...
[16:16]  * penguin42 hands smartboyhw a much larger fly swatter
[16:16] <TheLordOfTime> smartboyhw, side effect of being forced to upgrade 12 servers remotely :/
[16:16] <smartboyhw> chilicuil, I care about my sleep than computer bugs, sorry;P
[16:16] <smartboyhw> TheLordOfTime, congratulations
[16:17]  * TheLordOfTime is available to help with setting bug stuff that requires bug control presence, but not much else today
[16:17] <TheLordOfTime> that, and I'm installing Ubuntu on another system, so...
[16:17] <TheLordOfTime> xD
[16:17] <chilicuil> smartboyhw: x_x
[16:17] <smartboyhw> chilicuil, I do take care of myself.
[16:17] <chilicuil> smartboyhw: x_x
[16:18] <smartboyhw> If I don't take care of myself, then I won't be able to contribute to Ubuntu at al.
[16:18] <smartboyhw> *all.
[16:18] <chilicuil> smartboyhw: haha, that's fine =D
[16:19] <chilicuil> anyway, I'm going out now to give brochures away, http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/es/material/brochure/ubuntu-brochure-triptico, I'll squash bugs in the afternoon
[16:20] <TheLordOfTime> chilicuil, i'll stick around to help out with the bug control stuff.  I even sent an email out that I'll try and make myself available.
[16:20] <TheLordOfTime> but i can't confirm bugs today... got to get Ubuntu onto the new system!
[16:21] <chilicuil> TheLordOfTime: cool, I know who to bug then =)
[16:21] <TheLordOfTime> chilicuil, heh
[16:21] <TheLordOfTime> don't innundate me with bugcontrol stuff, I do have to work on 5 nginx bugs and prioritize them :/
[16:22] <chilicuil> TheLordOfTime: lol, I wont =)
[16:23] <TheLordOfTime> i'll help out, but i do have my own crap too.
[16:23] <TheLordOfTime> geez, download faster, Ubuntu ISO :/
[16:25] <chilicuil> TheLordOfTime: if you usually install new systems, you should invest time in pxe + preseed + puppet
[16:26] <TheLordOfTime> chilicuil, it's not normal for me to install a new system
[16:26] <TheLordOfTime> chilicuil, this is what happened: previous laptop replaced, new laptop has windows, install Ubuntu for dualboot.
[16:26] <chilicuil> TheLordOfTime: ahh, then it's fine
[16:26] <TheLordOfTime> chilicuil, it's a "rare instance" where i have to install things :/
[16:26] <TheLordOfTime> ... speaking of which i need to clone my settings for programs...
[16:26] <TheLordOfTime> and grab /etc/apt/* and a list of packages installed...
[16:26] <TheLordOfTime> :/
[16:30] <TheLordOfTime> random question for people here who know, since i need to lurk this channel today: anyone know how I can export a list of the packages installed?
[16:31] <penguin42> oh hmm yeh there is a way of doing that
[16:32] <penguin42> I can't remember it though, I've heard it used to do bootstrapping
[16:32] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: I mean dpkg -l   is the simplest
[16:33] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42, yeah, i'll drop a question into the #ubuntu channel see if I get anything
[16:33] <TheLordOfTime> or check ask ubuntu or the forums :P
[16:34] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: I think it's dpkg --get-selections I was thinking of
[16:35] <wagafo_> TheLordOfTime: Yes, dpkg --get-selections > installed-software will create a txt file for you
[16:35] <TheLordOfTime> awesome
[16:44] <f-jack> hey im doing global jam how do i mark the bug on the global jam wiki page as done
[16:53] <jack_>  i need to mark a bug off this list can you tell me how https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20130914#preview
[16:57] <TheLordOfTime> if you don't stay connected, we can't xD
[17:05] <jack__>  I have confirmed this bug and triaged it. I am a member of bug squad so i need bug control to mark it as triaged https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061792
[17:06] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1061792 in unity (Ubuntu) "Memory Leak in Unity (Compiz)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:07] <penguin42> gah
[17:07] <penguin42> can someone nail him to the channel next time
[17:08] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42, i wish
[17:08] <TheLordOfTime> jack__, stick around dude
[17:08] <TheLordOfTime> we cna't help you if you quit all the time
[17:08] <jack__> xchat forced closed
[17:08] <jack__> I'm back
[17:09] <TheLordOfTime> cool.  stick around though, because you can stay in this channel all you want
[17:09] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42, you can handle changing that bug?
[17:09] <penguin42> sure
[17:09]  * TheLordOfTime is currently eating a sandwich
[17:09] <penguin42> jack__: OK, so what priority ?
[17:09] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: What type?
[17:09] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42, ham + cheese cold cuts + mayo + mustard + hawaiian sweet buns.
[17:10] <jack__> Its a memory leak so i think it should be medium priority i went and it like slowed my system down
[17:10] <TheLordOfTime> reference for importance: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
[17:11] <TheLordOfTime> ... this sandwich is delicious... *shifts attention away from IRC*
[17:12] <jack__> Wouldnt it be critical it causes the system to lock up
[17:13] <penguin42> jack__: Well does it - I mean there are lots of leaks, but is this a slow leak or a fast leak?  If it's a slow leak will it actually eventually cause it to lock up or just gently swap along?
[17:13] <penguin42> jack__: Also is there really enough there to make it triaged?
[17:14] <jack__> Theres like how to reproduce the bug like exactly apport logs
[17:14] <jack__> Im just bug squad this is my first time doing this
[17:16] <jack__>  And i filed the swap in  30 minutes. Do you think theres enough to mark it
[17:16] <penguin42> jack__: You managed it in 30mins? The last person commenting on there said it took 2 days?
[17:16] <jack__> I knew what i was doing
[17:17] <penguin42> haha - so when that happened which process used all your ram?
[17:17] <jack__> compiz
[17:18] <penguin42> jack__: ok, so add some comments in there to say how you managed to get it to fail in 30mins; that's the type of thing you want to be able to get to the state where 'developers can start fixing the problem right away' which I'd say you want for triaged
[17:18] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42, you're on duty for a while
[17:18]  * TheLordOfTime has to deal with broken glasses now since he kinda sat on them :/
[17:18] <TheLordOfTime> *back later*
[17:18] <penguin42> jack__: Because a bug that a developer can repeat in 30mins is great for a developer, one that fails after 2 days is well not very nice!
[17:19] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: I'd blame the mayo
[17:19] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42, i blame not having coffee :/
[17:19] <jack__> haha
[17:21] <jack__> who needs coffee red bull is better
[17:22] <jack__> Hey whats the command to have apport collect for a certain bug
[17:22] <TheLordOfTime> jack__, people like me need coffee :p
[17:22] <TheLordOfTime> because redbull is bleh
[17:23] <TheLordOfTime> besides, i get coffee from a local coffee roasters at a discount :P
[17:23] <jack__> lol
[17:25] <jack__> penguin42:  whats the command to get apport to collect for a certain bug
[17:27] <penguin42> jack__: I think it's apport -c from memory - but be careful about adding logs to someone elses bug, it's a bit unusual
[17:27] <jack__> im not adding logs i need someone to run it
[17:28] <penguin42> ah, just apport-collect bugnumber
[17:28] <jack__> ok