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Kiloshi superfly and others06:15
superflymorning Kilos06:15
Kiloshappy with the new pc superfly ?06:15
superflyso far so good06:15
Kiloshow much faster is quad than dual core06:15
Symmetriamorning07:03
Symmetriadoesnt some bored coder feel like hacking in a modification to rtorrent for me ;p 07:03
kbmonkeyhello07:37
Kilosmorning kbmonkey Symmetria 07:37
* Kilos watches za/nz match07:37
kbmonkeyhi Kilos -  good one matey07:41
superflyKilos: not noticeably07:43
kbmonkeyId like me a new pc, I am jealous ;)07:43
Kilosme too07:43
* Kilos keeps saving07:43
Kiloswill get there sometime07:44
kbmonkeythis one is 5+ years old, but still going strong07:44
superflykbmonkey: get lightning to strike your phone line and take out your two servers07:44
superflythat's what I did :-P07:44
kbmonkeylol!07:44
Kiloshehe07:44
kbmonkeyah I see. I do not have insurance on these things. So I hope the lightning stays away!07:44
superflykbmonkey: auto and general - covers household contents and car07:46
superflydepending on your car, it could cost as little as R400 per month07:47
kbmonkeyIf I save R400 a month I could buy a new pc every year :D07:50
kbmonkeyhey maybe I should do that...07:50
Symmetriain kenya you can hire a full time live in maid and a full time live in driver on call 24/7 for $700 for both per month ;p07:51
kbmonkeyhow is the game going Kilos ?08:13
kbmonkeywho is in the lead?08:13
Kiloswe behind 14/308:13
kbmonkeyeish08:13
Kilossigh08:13
Kilosfrog ref is blind and sucks08:13
kbmonkeythe money must have talked loudly08:13
Kilosyeah08:14
Symmetriaugh I gotta pack up and start getting ready to fly again08:14
kbmonkeythats a lot of flying Symmetria :(08:14
SymmetriaI worked it out, its been 6 months since I went more than a week without at least one international flight08:14
Kilospale toe08:14
Symmetriaheh kbmonkey tell me about it, I realized I was flying to much when the kenyan immigration guys started greeting me by name when I land before even seeing my passport ;p08:15
kbmonkeyI hate flying. takeoff is the best part, the other 99% of it is dredgingly boring08:15
Symmetriakbmonkey lol luckily most of my flights are only 4 or 5 hours at a time08:15
kbmonkeylol!08:15
SymmetriaI generally sit and read on my ipad or fall asleep08:15
Symmetriatoday is a pain though, flying back to joburg, hanging around for 4 and a half hours and then taking off again to Kenya08:16
kbmonkey*ibad ;P08:16
kbmonkeythat's what RMS called the iThings at his talk last week. 08:16
Kilos14/1008:17
kbmonkeyI have never flown more than 2 hours08:17
Symmetriaheh I dont care what anyone says about the ipad, it makes for a damn good battery efficient e-reader ;p08:17
kbmonkeyyay Kilos !08:17
Symmetriakbmonkey lol, Ive done 18 hour flights before08:17
Symmetriathose are hell08:17
kbmonkeythat is madness08:18
Symmetriaheh the problem is that flying as much as I do, takes its toll on your body and your health 08:20
kbmonkeyI am sure!08:24
kbmonkeybest to move closer to work, eh?08:24
Symmetriaheh, problem is work is rather distributed08:28
SymmetriaI move between south africa, kenya, uganda, rwanda, tanzania,  mozambique, zambia and zimbabwe08:28
Symmetriawith the occasional trip to mauritius, london and the US thrown in08:29
kbmonkeysounds like you are spread too thin, need more hands and feet in that dept 08:30
Symmetrialol yeah need more people, but at the same time, more people drives down the price I can charge ;p08:34
Symmetriaalways a trade off :)08:34
Symmetriaanyway time to go pack08:34
charlgood morning09:23
charlMaaz: coffee on09:23
* Maaz puts the kettle on09:23
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!09:27
Kiloshi charl 09:43
Kiloshi psychicist 10:02
charlhi Kilos 10:03
charlhi psychicist 10:03
charlhow's poland10:03
charlin NL it is raining cats and dogs10:03
Kiloscharl, ask theblazehen if he can help with the im thing10:04
charlKilos: i'll do, i just want to get some stuff down on paper first10:04
Kilossomewhere youll get help with java and whatever10:04
charlthe last week has been very busy at work so i haven't had the time10:04
Kilosah10:04
charlyeah or python is cool too10:04
charli always hate asking for help if i can't even do the start by putting things down on paper :)10:04
charlbtw i made some great progress with centerim and openpgp yesterday10:05
charlcenterim seems to segfault as standard when i try to register a new user10:05
charli tried to register a user on swissjabber.ch and ended up using freetalk to do that instead10:05
charlbut then i generated two rsa/dsa keypairs using gnupg10:06
charli put one on my machine at work and one on my laptop at home10:06
charland then imported the public key of the other on each10:06
charli opened centerim on each and assigned the local private key to my jabber account10:07
charland then i could chat between the two machines using full openpgp end-to-end encryption over xmpp10:07
charlworks perfectly, the only problem is while googling i could find absolutely no howto so had to figure everything out myself10:08
Kilosai!10:08
charli also figured out another irritating problem10:09
Kilosso you pioneering10:10
charli have this problem on my cable provider (ziggo) that it seems to "timeout" tcp connections on high numbered ports10:10
charlthis affects ssh connections on non-standard high number ports which is often the case these days due to the random scans on port 2210:11
charlin my ~/.ssh/config i have two settings set: ServerAliveInterval 30 and ServerAliveCountMax 1010:11
charlthat fixes the problem by frequently "10:11
charl"pinging" the other side (sorry hit enter by mistake)10:12
Kilosnp10:12
charlbut with xmpp i still have the same problem when i connect to ports 5222 (tls) and 5223 (old-school ssl)10:12
charland i can't find an option in centerim to "ping" the server and keep the connection alive10:13
charlhowever, swissjabber.ch actually allows you to use a non-standard port 443 (https)10:13
charland that seems to be working perfectly for the moment10:13
Kilostimeouts suck10:14
charlanycase, now i still have to write up a draft document of this new protocol of mine10:17
charlwill need to make time for it over the next week10:17
charlquite a pity though, just ran wireshark and all the traffic from centerim to swissjabber.ch over port 443 is plaintext11:22
charlif i enable secure mode it complaints that an unexpected tls packet was received11:22
charlseems like it doesn't actually support tls11:22
Kilosai!11:23
Kilosyou got lotsa figuring out to do11:23
charlyeah indeed11:23
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy you here onna weekend?11:38
ThatGraemeGuyyeah :-/11:50
ThatGraemeGuymoving some VMs across the country12:11
superflyThatGraemeGuy: up or down?12:29
ThatGraemeGuyup12:29
ThatGraemeGuysvn and git. not making sense to host them from the office anymore with the other guys being back in Century and we've moved to Obs12:30
superflyOK12:34
KilosMaaz, seen squirm14:07
MaazKilos: squirm was last seen 1 day, 7 hours, 35 minutes and 19 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-09-13 08:32:38 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-09-13 18:30:25 SAST14:07
charlMaaz: seen cantide14:10
Maazcharl: cantide was last seen 7 days, 23 hours, 34 minutes and 41 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-09-06 16:36:07 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-09-13 16:36:26 SAST14:10
charlhe's probably in korea now14:11
Kiloshe didnt even let us know he be going14:11
Kilosgrrr14:11
charlhahaha how dare he :P14:13
Kilosyeah14:14
kbmonkeygreetings all15:47
Vince-0g'day15:48
kbmonkeyits a quiete day here16:03
kbmonkeyerr, quiet16:03
kbmonkeythat game called Fez breaks my brain, a great puzzle game indeed16:04
charlhi kbmonkey, Vince-0 16:11
kbmonkeyhi charl . oh hi vinc16:11
Vince-0Fez got boring after I couldnt find all the shinies16:12
kbmonkeyit is so wrong to be buffering a 3 minute youtube video16:12
theblazehenkbmonkey: yes :(16:23
theblazehenoh, hi guiys16:23
charlhi theblazehen 16:24
charlhow's it going16:24
theblazehengood and you charl ?16:24
charlgood16:24
charllistening to the latest episode of hak5, very interesting16:24
charlthis is a good episode16:24
charleveryone is getting crypto paranoid now and moving off the cloud etc16:25
charlit's so funny first it was about getting people on the cloud now it's about getting people off the cloud16:25
theblazehencharl: would you recommend it? How big is each episode? I only have around 15 MB HDD space left16:26
charllol that would be a problem :P16:26
theblazehencharl: :(16:26
charlif you watch the hd versions it's about 400-500mb per episode16:26
theblazehencharl: and SD?16:26
charli just stream it though, play directly off the network16:27
theblazehenMaybe I can clear some log files16:27
theblazehencharl: Yeah, can try16:27
charl15mb... what the heck :)16:27
charlare you on an ssd?16:27
theblazehenor mount my netbook over SSH, has a larger HDD16:27
theblazehenNope, just a over 11 year oldHDD16:27
theblazehenit's 40GB, and IDE16:27
charllatest episode is 352.2 in SD16:27
charlMB16:27
theblazehen:(16:28
charlwhat ?! 11 year old, and it still works?16:28
theblazehencharl: well enough...16:28
charlok now i've heard it all again :016:28
charl:)16:28
theblazehenLol :p16:29
theblazehenIt's a WD BTW16:29
charlwestern digital is good stuff16:29
charli trust those much more than seagate16:29
theblazehenyeah16:30
theblazehenyou use finalterm ever?16:30
charldoesn't ring a bell16:31
theblazehenreally nice16:31
theblazehenhave a look16:31
charlwhow this looks amazing16:32
nuvolariMaaz: is facebook.com up?16:32
Maaznuvolari: Yes, https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser is up16:32
nuvolari:?16:32
charllol unsupported browser16:32
charlit sees the http lib maaz is using as an unsupported browser16:32
charlhilarious16:32
* charl salivating over this final term16:33
theblazehencharl: yeah :)16:34
theblazehencharl: which distro? It's finalterm-git in aur for arch16:35
charlrunning the ppa now under ubuntu16:35
charlworking !16:35
theblazehennice!16:36
theblazehenbreaks on tmux16:37
theblazehenand nano16:37
charlhmmm not terribly stable then16:38
theblazehenyeah, still in dev16:38
theblazehenBut you can still use ed16:38
theblazehen:D16:39
charlhmmm how do i open a tab16:40
charlthe standard ctrl+shift+t doesn't do anything16:40
charli like the smooth scrolling and super smooth fonts, it reminds me of sublime16:41
charlhmmm still very budggy, ctrl+u doesn't work well on long strings16:42
kbmonkeyit does look snazzy. but does not offer me anything I already miss :)16:42
charlyeah i am still using konsole16:42
charlthe main reason for using konsole is that gnome-terminal and xfce4-terminal uses alt+1 alt+2 etc to move between tabs16:43
charlthat conflicts with applications like irssi16:43
charlwith konsole you use shift+left arrow and right arrow to move between tabs16:43
charlthe autocompletion in final term is amazing16:44
kbmonkeyIm loving urxvt now, it keeps out of my way 16:47
charlwow talking about minimalist :)16:49
charlnah doesn't run irssi either, this finalterm looks promising but still needs a lot of work16:51
charlor i should say, irssi works but it doesn't display properly16:52
kbmonkeyI'm sure in time it will improve17:01
kbmonkeyman, I am trying to code some Pythons but I feel so lazy XD17:03
charlme too i am supposed to be writing a draft right now and i am watching iptv :P17:06
kbmonkeyoh noes, crowded house is too depressing to listen to. skip..17:08
Kiloswb Squirm what crashed18:34
Kilosweather?18:35
Kiloshi Trixar_za zere18:35
Kilosai!18:35
Kiloshi zeref 18:36
Kilosnight all. sleep tight. see ya morrow19:31
KilosMaaz, night19:31
Maazkbye Kilos19:31
inetprogood evening20:28
kbmonkeyevening20:30
superflyhi20:30
kbmonkeyIm playing in python and pygame again. having a good time20:31
inetprofp22:14
Trixar_zakbmonkey: Try Ren'py next22:46
Trixar_za:P22:46

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