[06:15] <Kilos> hi superfly and others
[06:15] <superfly> morning Kilos
[06:15] <Kilos> happy with the new pc superfly ?
[06:15] <superfly> so far so good
[06:15] <Kilos> how much faster is quad than dual core
[07:03] <Symmetria> morning
[07:03] <Symmetria> doesnt some bored coder feel like hacking in a modification to rtorrent for me ;p 
[07:37] <kbmonkey> hello
[07:37] <Kilos> morning kbmonkey Symmetria 
[07:37]  * Kilos watches za/nz match
[07:41] <kbmonkey> hi Kilos -  good one matey
[07:43] <superfly> Kilos: not noticeably
[07:43] <kbmonkey> Id like me a new pc, I am jealous ;)
[07:43] <Kilos> me too
[07:43]  * Kilos keeps saving
[07:44] <Kilos> will get there sometime
[07:44] <kbmonkey> this one is 5+ years old, but still going strong
[07:44] <superfly> kbmonkey: get lightning to strike your phone line and take out your two servers
[07:44] <superfly> that's what I did :-P
[07:44] <kbmonkey> lol!
[07:44] <Kilos> hehe
[07:44] <kbmonkey> ah I see. I do not have insurance on these things. So I hope the lightning stays away!
[07:46] <superfly> kbmonkey: auto and general - covers household contents and car
[07:47] <superfly> depending on your car, it could cost as little as R400 per month
[07:50] <kbmonkey> If I save R400 a month I could buy a new pc every year :D
[07:50] <kbmonkey> hey maybe I should do that...
[07:51] <Symmetria> in kenya you can hire a full time live in maid and a full time live in driver on call 24/7 for $700 for both per month ;p
[08:13] <kbmonkey> how is the game going Kilos ?
[08:13] <kbmonkey> who is in the lead?
[08:13] <Kilos> we behind 14/3
[08:13] <kbmonkey> eish
[08:13] <Kilos> sigh
[08:13] <Kilos> frog ref is blind and sucks
[08:13] <kbmonkey> the money must have talked loudly
[08:14] <Kilos> yeah
[08:14] <Symmetria> ugh I gotta pack up and start getting ready to fly again
[08:14] <kbmonkey> thats a lot of flying Symmetria :(
[08:14] <Symmetria> I worked it out, its been 6 months since I went more than a week without at least one international flight
[08:14] <Kilos> pale toe
[08:15] <Symmetria> heh kbmonkey tell me about it, I realized I was flying to much when the kenyan immigration guys started greeting me by name when I land before even seeing my passport ;p
[08:15] <kbmonkey> I hate flying. takeoff is the best part, the other 99% of it is dredgingly boring
[08:15] <Symmetria> kbmonkey lol luckily most of my flights are only 4 or 5 hours at a time
[08:15] <kbmonkey> lol!
[08:15] <Symmetria> I generally sit and read on my ipad or fall asleep
[08:16] <Symmetria> today is a pain though, flying back to joburg, hanging around for 4 and a half hours and then taking off again to Kenya
[08:16] <kbmonkey> *ibad ;P
[08:16] <kbmonkey> that's what RMS called the iThings at his talk last week. 
[08:17] <Kilos> 14/10
[08:17] <kbmonkey> I have never flown more than 2 hours
[08:17] <Symmetria> heh I dont care what anyone says about the ipad, it makes for a damn good battery efficient e-reader ;p
[08:17] <kbmonkey> yay Kilos !
[08:17] <Symmetria> kbmonkey lol, Ive done 18 hour flights before
[08:17] <Symmetria> those are hell
[08:18] <kbmonkey> that is madness
[08:20] <Symmetria> heh the problem is that flying as much as I do, takes its toll on your body and your health 
[08:24] <kbmonkey> I am sure!
[08:24] <kbmonkey> best to move closer to work, eh?
[08:28] <Symmetria> heh, problem is work is rather distributed
[08:28] <Symmetria> I move between south africa, kenya, uganda, rwanda, tanzania,  mozambique, zambia and zimbabwe
[08:29] <Symmetria> with the occasional trip to mauritius, london and the US thrown in
[08:30] <kbmonkey> sounds like you are spread too thin, need more hands and feet in that dept 
[08:34] <Symmetria> lol yeah need more people, but at the same time, more people drives down the price I can charge ;p
[08:34] <Symmetria> always a trade off :)
[08:34] <Symmetria> anyway time to go pack
[09:23] <charl> good morning
[09:23] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[09:23]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[09:27] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[09:43] <Kilos> hi charl 
[10:02] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[10:03] <charl> hi Kilos 
[10:03] <charl> hi psychicist 
[10:03] <charl> how's poland
[10:03] <charl> in NL it is raining cats and dogs
[10:04] <Kilos> charl, ask theblazehen if he can help with the im thing
[10:04] <charl> Kilos: i'll do, i just want to get some stuff down on paper first
[10:04] <Kilos> somewhere youll get help with java and whatever
[10:04] <charl> the last week has been very busy at work so i haven't had the time
[10:04] <Kilos> ah
[10:04] <charl> yeah or python is cool too
[10:04] <charl> i always hate asking for help if i can't even do the start by putting things down on paper :)
[10:05] <charl> btw i made some great progress with centerim and openpgp yesterday
[10:05] <charl> centerim seems to segfault as standard when i try to register a new user
[10:05] <charl> i tried to register a user on swissjabber.ch and ended up using freetalk to do that instead
[10:06] <charl> but then i generated two rsa/dsa keypairs using gnupg
[10:06] <charl> i put one on my machine at work and one on my laptop at home
[10:06] <charl> and then imported the public key of the other on each
[10:07] <charl> i opened centerim on each and assigned the local private key to my jabber account
[10:07] <charl> and then i could chat between the two machines using full openpgp end-to-end encryption over xmpp
[10:08] <charl> works perfectly, the only problem is while googling i could find absolutely no howto so had to figure everything out myself
[10:08] <Kilos> ai!
[10:09] <charl> i also figured out another irritating problem
[10:10] <Kilos> so you pioneering
[10:10] <charl> i have this problem on my cable provider (ziggo) that it seems to "timeout" tcp connections on high numbered ports
[10:11] <charl> this affects ssh connections on non-standard high number ports which is often the case these days due to the random scans on port 22
[10:11] <charl> in my ~/.ssh/config i have two settings set: ServerAliveInterval 30 and ServerAliveCountMax 10
[10:11] <charl> that fixes the problem by frequently "
[10:12] <charl> "pinging" the other side (sorry hit enter by mistake)
[10:12] <Kilos> np
[10:12] <charl> but with xmpp i still have the same problem when i connect to ports 5222 (tls) and 5223 (old-school ssl)
[10:13] <charl> and i can't find an option in centerim to "ping" the server and keep the connection alive
[10:13] <charl> however, swissjabber.ch actually allows you to use a non-standard port 443 (https)
[10:13] <charl> and that seems to be working perfectly for the moment
[10:14] <Kilos> timeouts suck
[10:17] <charl> anycase, now i still have to write up a draft document of this new protocol of mine
[10:17] <charl> will need to make time for it over the next week
[11:22] <charl> quite a pity though, just ran wireshark and all the traffic from centerim to swissjabber.ch over port 443 is plaintext
[11:22] <charl> if i enable secure mode it complaints that an unexpected tls packet was received
[11:22] <charl> seems like it doesn't actually support tls
[11:23] <Kilos> ai!
[11:23] <Kilos> you got lotsa figuring out to do
[11:23] <charl> yeah indeed
[11:38] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy you here onna weekend?
[11:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah :-/
[12:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> moving some VMs across the country
[12:29] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: up or down?
[12:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> up
[12:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> svn and git. not making sense to host them from the office anymore with the other guys being back in Century and we've moved to Obs
[12:34] <superfly> OK
[14:07] <Kilos> Maaz, seen squirm
[14:07] <Maaz> Kilos: squirm was last seen 1 day, 7 hours, 35 minutes and 19 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-09-13 08:32:38 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-09-13 18:30:25 SAST
[14:10] <charl> Maaz: seen cantide
[14:10] <Maaz> charl: cantide was last seen 7 days, 23 hours, 34 minutes and 41 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-09-06 16:36:07 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-09-13 16:36:26 SAST
[14:11] <charl> he's probably in korea now
[14:11] <Kilos> he didnt even let us know he be going
[14:11] <Kilos> grrr
[14:13] <charl> hahaha how dare he :P
[14:14] <Kilos> yeah
[15:47] <kbmonkey> greetings all
[15:48] <Vince-0> g'day
[16:03] <kbmonkey> its a quiete day here
[16:03] <kbmonkey> err, quiet
[16:04] <kbmonkey> that game called Fez breaks my brain, a great puzzle game indeed
[16:11] <charl> hi kbmonkey, Vince-0 
[16:11] <kbmonkey> hi charl . oh hi vinc	
[16:12] <Vince-0> Fez got boring after I couldnt find all the shinies
[16:12] <kbmonkey> it is so wrong to be buffering a 3 minute youtube video
[16:23] <theblazehen> kbmonkey: yes :(
[16:23] <theblazehen> oh, hi guiys
[16:24] <charl> hi theblazehen 
[16:24] <charl> how's it going
[16:24] <theblazehen> good and you charl ?
[16:24] <charl> good
[16:24] <charl> listening to the latest episode of hak5, very interesting
[16:24] <charl> this is a good episode
[16:25] <charl> everyone is getting crypto paranoid now and moving off the cloud etc
[16:25] <charl> it's so funny first it was about getting people on the cloud now it's about getting people off the cloud
[16:26] <theblazehen> charl: would you recommend it? How big is each episode? I only have around 15 MB HDD space left
[16:26] <charl> lol that would be a problem :P
[16:26] <theblazehen> charl: :(
[16:26] <charl> if you watch the hd versions it's about 400-500mb per episode
[16:26] <theblazehen> charl: and SD?
[16:27] <charl> i just stream it though, play directly off the network
[16:27] <theblazehen> Maybe I can clear some log files
[16:27] <theblazehen> charl: Yeah, can try
[16:27] <charl> 15mb... what the heck :)
[16:27] <charl> are you on an ssd?
[16:27] <theblazehen> or mount my netbook over SSH, has a larger HDD
[16:27] <theblazehen> Nope, just a over 11 year oldHDD
[16:27] <theblazehen> it's 40GB, and IDE
[16:27] <charl> latest episode is 352.2 in SD
[16:27] <charl> MB
[16:28] <theblazehen> :(
[16:28] <charl> what ?! 11 year old, and it still works?
[16:28] <theblazehen> charl: well enough...
[16:28] <charl> ok now i've heard it all again :0
[16:28] <charl> :)
[16:29] <theblazehen> Lol :p
[16:29] <theblazehen> It's a WD BTW
[16:29] <charl> western digital is good stuff
[16:29] <charl> i trust those much more than seagate
[16:30] <theblazehen> yeah
[16:30] <theblazehen> you use finalterm ever?
[16:31] <charl> doesn't ring a bell
[16:31] <theblazehen> really nice
[16:31] <theblazehen> have a look
[16:32] <charl> whow this looks amazing
[16:32] <nuvolari> Maaz: is facebook.com up?
[16:32] <Maaz> nuvolari: Yes, https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser is up
[16:32] <nuvolari> :?
[16:32] <charl> lol unsupported browser
[16:32] <charl> it sees the http lib maaz is using as an unsupported browser
[16:32] <charl> hilarious
[16:33]  * charl salivating over this final term
[16:34] <theblazehen> charl: yeah :)
[16:35] <theblazehen> charl: which distro? It's finalterm-git in aur for arch
[16:35] <charl> running the ppa now under ubuntu
[16:35] <charl> working !
[16:36] <theblazehen> nice!
[16:37] <theblazehen> breaks on tmux
[16:37] <theblazehen> and nano
[16:38] <charl> hmmm not terribly stable then
[16:38] <theblazehen> yeah, still in dev
[16:38] <theblazehen> But you can still use ed
[16:39] <theblazehen> :D
[16:40] <charl> hmmm how do i open a tab
[16:40] <charl> the standard ctrl+shift+t doesn't do anything
[16:41] <charl> i like the smooth scrolling and super smooth fonts, it reminds me of sublime
[16:42] <charl> hmmm still very budggy, ctrl+u doesn't work well on long strings
[16:42] <kbmonkey> it does look snazzy. but does not offer me anything I already miss :)
[16:42] <charl> yeah i am still using konsole
[16:43] <charl> the main reason for using konsole is that gnome-terminal and xfce4-terminal uses alt+1 alt+2 etc to move between tabs
[16:43] <charl> that conflicts with applications like irssi
[16:43] <charl> with konsole you use shift+left arrow and right arrow to move between tabs
[16:44] <charl> the autocompletion in final term is amazing
[16:47] <kbmonkey> Im loving urxvt now, it keeps out of my way 
[16:49] <charl> wow talking about minimalist :)
[16:51] <charl> nah doesn't run irssi either, this finalterm looks promising but still needs a lot of work
[16:52] <charl> or i should say, irssi works but it doesn't display properly
[17:01] <kbmonkey> I'm sure in time it will improve
[17:03] <kbmonkey> man, I am trying to code some Pythons but I feel so lazy XD
[17:06] <charl> me too i am supposed to be writing a draft right now and i am watching iptv :P
[17:08] <kbmonkey> oh noes, crowded house is too depressing to listen to. skip..
[18:34] <Kilos> wb Squirm what crashed
[18:35] <Kilos> weather?
[18:35] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za zere
[18:35] <Kilos> ai!
[18:36] <Kilos> hi zeref 
[19:31] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight. see ya morrow
[19:31] <Kilos> Maaz, night
[19:31] <Maaz> kbye Kilos
[20:28] <inetpro> good evening
[20:30] <kbmonkey> evening
[20:30] <superfly> hi
[20:31] <kbmonkey> Im playing in python and pygame again. having a good time
[22:14] <inetpro> fp
[22:46] <Trixar_za> kbmonkey: Try Ren'py next
[22:46] <Trixar_za> :P