[06:15] hi superfly and others [06:15] morning Kilos [06:15] happy with the new pc superfly ? [06:15] so far so good [06:15] how much faster is quad than dual core [07:03] morning [07:03] doesnt some bored coder feel like hacking in a modification to rtorrent for me ;p [07:37] hello [07:37] morning kbmonkey Symmetria [07:37] * Kilos watches za/nz match [07:41] hi Kilos - good one matey [07:43] Kilos: not noticeably [07:43] Id like me a new pc, I am jealous ;) [07:43] me too [07:43] * Kilos keeps saving [07:44] will get there sometime [07:44] this one is 5+ years old, but still going strong [07:44] kbmonkey: get lightning to strike your phone line and take out your two servers [07:44] that's what I did :-P [07:44] lol! [07:44] hehe [07:44] ah I see. I do not have insurance on these things. So I hope the lightning stays away! [07:46] kbmonkey: auto and general - covers household contents and car [07:47] depending on your car, it could cost as little as R400 per month [07:50] If I save R400 a month I could buy a new pc every year :D [07:50] hey maybe I should do that... [07:51] in kenya you can hire a full time live in maid and a full time live in driver on call 24/7 for $700 for both per month ;p [08:13] how is the game going Kilos ? [08:13] who is in the lead? [08:13] we behind 14/3 [08:13] eish [08:13] sigh [08:13] frog ref is blind and sucks [08:13] the money must have talked loudly [08:14] yeah [08:14] ugh I gotta pack up and start getting ready to fly again [08:14] thats a lot of flying Symmetria :( [08:14] I worked it out, its been 6 months since I went more than a week without at least one international flight [08:14] pale toe [08:15] heh kbmonkey tell me about it, I realized I was flying to much when the kenyan immigration guys started greeting me by name when I land before even seeing my passport ;p [08:15] I hate flying. takeoff is the best part, the other 99% of it is dredgingly boring [08:15] kbmonkey lol luckily most of my flights are only 4 or 5 hours at a time [08:15] lol! [08:15] I generally sit and read on my ipad or fall asleep [08:16] today is a pain though, flying back to joburg, hanging around for 4 and a half hours and then taking off again to Kenya [08:16] *ibad ;P [08:16] that's what RMS called the iThings at his talk last week. [08:17] 14/10 [08:17] I have never flown more than 2 hours [08:17] heh I dont care what anyone says about the ipad, it makes for a damn good battery efficient e-reader ;p [08:17] yay Kilos ! [08:17] kbmonkey lol, Ive done 18 hour flights before [08:17] those are hell [08:18] that is madness [08:20] heh the problem is that flying as much as I do, takes its toll on your body and your health [08:24] I am sure! [08:24] best to move closer to work, eh? [08:28] heh, problem is work is rather distributed [08:28] I move between south africa, kenya, uganda, rwanda, tanzania, mozambique, zambia and zimbabwe [08:29] with the occasional trip to mauritius, london and the US thrown in [08:30] sounds like you are spread too thin, need more hands and feet in that dept [08:34] lol yeah need more people, but at the same time, more people drives down the price I can charge ;p [08:34] always a trade off :) [08:34] anyway time to go pack [09:23] good morning [09:23] Maaz: coffee on [09:23] * Maaz puts the kettle on [09:27] Coffee's ready for charl! [09:43] hi charl [10:02] hi psychicist [10:03] hi Kilos [10:03] hi psychicist [10:03] how's poland [10:03] in NL it is raining cats and dogs [10:04] charl, ask theblazehen if he can help with the im thing [10:04] Kilos: i'll do, i just want to get some stuff down on paper first [10:04] somewhere youll get help with java and whatever [10:04] the last week has been very busy at work so i haven't had the time [10:04] ah [10:04] yeah or python is cool too [10:04] i always hate asking for help if i can't even do the start by putting things down on paper :) [10:05] btw i made some great progress with centerim and openpgp yesterday [10:05] centerim seems to segfault as standard when i try to register a new user [10:05] i tried to register a user on swissjabber.ch and ended up using freetalk to do that instead [10:06] but then i generated two rsa/dsa keypairs using gnupg [10:06] i put one on my machine at work and one on my laptop at home [10:06] and then imported the public key of the other on each [10:07] i opened centerim on each and assigned the local private key to my jabber account [10:07] and then i could chat between the two machines using full openpgp end-to-end encryption over xmpp [10:08] works perfectly, the only problem is while googling i could find absolutely no howto so had to figure everything out myself [10:08] ai! [10:09] i also figured out another irritating problem [10:10] so you pioneering [10:10] i have this problem on my cable provider (ziggo) that it seems to "timeout" tcp connections on high numbered ports [10:11] this affects ssh connections on non-standard high number ports which is often the case these days due to the random scans on port 22 [10:11] in my ~/.ssh/config i have two settings set: ServerAliveInterval 30 and ServerAliveCountMax 10 [10:11] that fixes the problem by frequently " [10:12] "pinging" the other side (sorry hit enter by mistake) [10:12] np [10:12] but with xmpp i still have the same problem when i connect to ports 5222 (tls) and 5223 (old-school ssl) [10:13] and i can't find an option in centerim to "ping" the server and keep the connection alive [10:13] however, swissjabber.ch actually allows you to use a non-standard port 443 (https) [10:13] and that seems to be working perfectly for the moment [10:14] timeouts suck [10:17] anycase, now i still have to write up a draft document of this new protocol of mine [10:17] will need to make time for it over the next week [11:22] quite a pity though, just ran wireshark and all the traffic from centerim to swissjabber.ch over port 443 is plaintext [11:22] if i enable secure mode it complaints that an unexpected tls packet was received [11:22] seems like it doesn't actually support tls [11:23] ai! [11:23] you got lotsa figuring out to do [11:23] yeah indeed [11:38] hi ThatGraemeGuy you here onna weekend? [11:50] yeah :-/ [12:11] moving some VMs across the country [12:29] ThatGraemeGuy: up or down? [12:29] up [12:30] svn and git. not making sense to host them from the office anymore with the other guys being back in Century and we've moved to Obs [12:34] OK [14:07] Maaz, seen squirm [14:07] Kilos: squirm was last seen 1 day, 7 hours, 35 minutes and 19 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-09-13 08:32:38 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-09-13 18:30:25 SAST [14:10] Maaz: seen cantide [14:10] charl: cantide was last seen 7 days, 23 hours, 34 minutes and 41 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-09-06 16:36:07 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-09-13 16:36:26 SAST [14:11] he's probably in korea now [14:11] he didnt even let us know he be going [14:11] grrr [14:13] hahaha how dare he :P [14:14] yeah [15:47] greetings all [15:48] g'day [16:03] its a quiete day here [16:03] err, quiet [16:04] that game called Fez breaks my brain, a great puzzle game indeed [16:11] hi kbmonkey, Vince-0 [16:11] hi charl . oh hi vinc [16:12] Fez got boring after I couldnt find all the shinies [16:12] it is so wrong to be buffering a 3 minute youtube video [16:23] kbmonkey: yes :( [16:23] oh, hi guiys [16:24] hi theblazehen [16:24] how's it going [16:24] good and you charl ? [16:24] good [16:24] listening to the latest episode of hak5, very interesting [16:24] this is a good episode [16:25] everyone is getting crypto paranoid now and moving off the cloud etc [16:25] it's so funny first it was about getting people on the cloud now it's about getting people off the cloud [16:26] charl: would you recommend it? How big is each episode? I only have around 15 MB HDD space left [16:26] lol that would be a problem :P [16:26] charl: :( [16:26] if you watch the hd versions it's about 400-500mb per episode [16:26] charl: and SD? [16:27] i just stream it though, play directly off the network [16:27] Maybe I can clear some log files [16:27] charl: Yeah, can try [16:27] 15mb... what the heck :) [16:27] are you on an ssd? [16:27] or mount my netbook over SSH, has a larger HDD [16:27] Nope, just a over 11 year oldHDD [16:27] it's 40GB, and IDE [16:27] latest episode is 352.2 in SD [16:27] MB [16:28] :( [16:28] what ?! 11 year old, and it still works? [16:28] charl: well enough... [16:28] ok now i've heard it all again :0 [16:28] :) [16:29] Lol :p [16:29] It's a WD BTW [16:29] western digital is good stuff [16:29] i trust those much more than seagate [16:30] yeah [16:30] you use finalterm ever? [16:31] doesn't ring a bell [16:31] really nice [16:31] have a look [16:32] whow this looks amazing [16:32] Maaz: is facebook.com up? [16:32] nuvolari: Yes, https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser is up [16:32] :? [16:32] lol unsupported browser [16:32] it sees the http lib maaz is using as an unsupported browser [16:32] hilarious [16:33] * charl salivating over this final term [16:34] charl: yeah :) [16:35] charl: which distro? It's finalterm-git in aur for arch [16:35] running the ppa now under ubuntu [16:35] working ! [16:36] nice! [16:37] breaks on tmux [16:37] and nano [16:38] hmmm not terribly stable then [16:38] yeah, still in dev [16:38] But you can still use ed [16:39] :D [16:40] hmmm how do i open a tab [16:40] the standard ctrl+shift+t doesn't do anything [16:41] i like the smooth scrolling and super smooth fonts, it reminds me of sublime [16:42] hmmm still very budggy, ctrl+u doesn't work well on long strings [16:42] it does look snazzy. but does not offer me anything I already miss :) [16:42] yeah i am still using konsole [16:43] the main reason for using konsole is that gnome-terminal and xfce4-terminal uses alt+1 alt+2 etc to move between tabs [16:43] that conflicts with applications like irssi [16:43] with konsole you use shift+left arrow and right arrow to move between tabs [16:44] the autocompletion in final term is amazing [16:47] Im loving urxvt now, it keeps out of my way [16:49] wow talking about minimalist :) [16:51] nah doesn't run irssi either, this finalterm looks promising but still needs a lot of work [16:52] or i should say, irssi works but it doesn't display properly [17:01] I'm sure in time it will improve [17:03] man, I am trying to code some Pythons but I feel so lazy XD [17:06] me too i am supposed to be writing a draft right now and i am watching iptv :P [17:08] oh noes, crowded house is too depressing to listen to. skip.. [18:34] wb Squirm what crashed [18:35] weather? [18:35] hi Trixar_za zere [18:35] ai! [18:36] hi zeref [19:31] night all. sleep tight. see ya morrow [19:31] Maaz, night [19:31] kbye Kilos [20:28] good evening [20:30] evening [20:30] hi [20:31] Im playing in python and pygame again. having a good time [22:14] fp [22:46] kbmonkey: Try Ren'py next [22:46] :P