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UserErrorDon't do it ;)00:00
BenkinoobyUserError: the problem is, that those desktop manger alre also responsible for permission managerment (indeiectly) and with console kit this is a total mess00:00
UserErrortrying to get the smallest possible RQT00:00
BenkinoobyUserError: only lightdm and up can manage consolekit properly00:00
BenkinoobyUserError: RQT?00:00
UserErrorrazor00:01
UserErrorsetup00:01
Benkinoobywhat's razor?00:01
Benkinoobya phone?00:01
UserErrorDE00:01
UserErrorshell, gui, whatever00:01
UserErrorbased on Qt00:01
UserErrorframework00:01
crocketubuntu app store is loaded with lots of commercial projects.00:02
crocketI think it's a right move.00:02
crocketSome apps like photoshop can't be done well with opensource projects.00:02
crocketThey're just too big and require funding for the time being.00:02
Obi1brb later on thx for the help00:02
UserErrorYeh, image editors on linux are gimped00:02
quidnuncHow do I install ia32-libs-multiarch? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6103660/00:03
crocketUserError, However, GIMP fits most purposes.00:03
UserErrorAdobe Photoshop CS2 is freeware though and freedesktop puts the icons in so00:03
crocketNon-artists are fine with GIMPed.00:03
crocketUserError, Is Adobe Photoshop CS2 available on linux?00:03
UserErrorWine00:03
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UserErrorwhich auto inserts icons to apps with freedesktop spec00:04
UserErrorjust like native00:04
Dr_Willis!wine | c00:04
ubottuc: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu00:04
crocketman00:04
Dr_Willis!wine | crocket00:04
ubottucrocket: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu00:04
UserErrorand it runs faster than Gimp00:04
UserErrorso00:04
UserErrorno reason to use it00:04
crocket24/7 support from ubuntu is crazy. Softwares should be able to answer to humans 24/7.00:04
crocketHumans can't support others in servility 24/7.00:04
Dr_Willisi perfer gimp. ;)00:05
UserErrorcrocket, history does not agree with you00:05
crocketI whine about wine.00:05
BenkinoobyUserError: as i see it, razor is on top of a winodw manager, right?00:05
crocketIs steam for linux available?00:05
Dr_Williscrocket:  theres native steam now yes00:05
UserErrorrqt is normally used with00:05
Dr_Willisbeen out for some months00:05
UserErroropenbox00:05
BenkinoobyUserError: use fluxbox - then you dont need razor and openfbox00:06
BenkinoobyUserError: fluxbox = openbox  + all that openbox misses ;)00:06
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crocketGames can't be done well with opensource projects, either.00:07
crocketWe need commercial games on linux.00:07
UserErrorok but flux isn't quite in the same league00:07
Benkinoobycrocket: see 0ad?00:07
BenkinoobyUserError: as what?00:07
crocketOpensource projects thrive in infrastructral softwares.00:08
UserErrorRQT00:08
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UserErrornormally you'd use flux with razor00:08
UserErrornot by itself00:08
crocketOpensource projects are good at producing organic systems of small software interwoven together.00:08
UserErrorWithout KDE, Apple would still be using IE00:09
wilee-nilee!ot | crocket00:09
ubottucrocket: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:09
BenkinoobyUserError: well, RQT is merging to lxde-qt anyway00:09
crocketok00:09
UserError^^^ show me where00:09
UserErrorall official wording is they are running in parallel00:09
crocketwilee-nilee, Do you know where I can get GNOME ubuntu?00:09
UserErrorbecause of differing design goals00:09
BenkinoobyUserError: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razor-qt00:09
BenkinoobyThe memory consumption of Razor-qt is slightly above the one of LXDE using 114Mb in a reviewer's test while LXDE used 108Mb in a user test.00:10
crocketunity ubuntu lacks some stuff I want. It doesn't have virtual workspaces.00:10
UserErroryes, and it is also more hardware accelerated and has a better plugin system currently00:10
UserErrorLXDE-Qt uses more than LXDE for instance00:11
UserErrorand Razor is more modular00:11
BenkinoobyUserError: i jsut want to say that if you want a minimal system, the *box window managers are smaller00:11
UserErrorif you only cared about stats, we'd all be using enlightenment00:11
crocketOh unity has workspaces.00:12
UserErrorBenkinooby http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE-Qt00:12
BenkinoobyUserError: uhm, that reminds me to have a look at enlightenment again :D00:13
BenkinoobyUserError: oh ok - now i'm a bit more knowledgable than before :)00:15
UserErrorLXDE is only partnering with razorqt for stand-alone bits until certain porting is done or they decide they don't want to for a select few components00:15
UserErrorwhich is why i need to find the slimmest rqt setup00:16
UserErrorin ubuntu00:16
UserErrorfrom minimal00:16
BenkinoobyUserError: use lightdm00:16
UserErrorSpeaking of, is there a way under ubuntu style packaging to install only the X11 parts needed? In gentoo I could pick and choose00:16
UserErrorDo you know if lightdm defaults are functional with --no-install-recommends00:17
BenkinoobyUserError: you can install X and disable "install recommended" for that call00:17
UserErroryeh but it still installs00:17
UserErrorso much other crap00:17
UserErrorextra video drivers etc00:17
BenkinoobyUserError: well, if it depends on them...00:17
crocketIs there a GNOME variant of ubuntu?00:18
UserErrorthere is no reason my intel card needs ati or SiS or VIA00:18
UserErrorcrocket, gnome-fallback or something ?00:18
BenkinoobyUserError: why not use gentoo or arch linux?00:18
UserErrorsimple, ppas00:18
UserErrorfor specific projects00:18
UserErrorsome of which are not open00:19
UserErroralso, binary compatibility across differing platforms00:19
Benkinoobyok00:19
crocketUserError, I want GNOME as the first class citizen instead of unity.00:21
naturalhey ubuntu, quick question, will ubuntu 13.04 64 bit work on my nettop d510 atom cpu 1.66 ghz dual core, with 2 gb ram ddr2 and an nvidia ion 310m gpu ?00:22
natural32 bit or 64 bit? is 64 going to be any better for the experience? or will it cause issues? or is it 32 bit better for the machine i have?00:23
wilee-nileenatural, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/00:24
Benkinooby crocket use google and find http://ubuntugnome.org/00:25
OerHeks!nounity00:27
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic00:27
Benkinoobycrocket: or this ^00:29
crocketOerHeks, Benkinooby : I installed gnome-shell and gnome-shell-extensions on linuxmint 15, and gnome shell wasn't really integrated into the system.00:30
naturalthanks wilee-nilee  my pc is not on the list00:30
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crocketLots of system settings in GNOME shell appeared weird.00:30
OerHekscrocket, that would be a mint issue, not our problem.00:30
crocketFor example,I couldn't choose a custom background.00:30
Benkinoobycrocket: use a distro that is gnome based00:30
Benkinoobyif gnome is that important to you00:30
crocketBenkinooby, I'm afraid the same could happen with ubuntu if I installed gnome shell.00:31
Benkinoobycrocket: well... just one way to find out00:31
wilee-nileenatural, This channel is not really the place for that, run it and decide for yourself, any answers here are opinions.00:31
Benkinoobycrocket: my recommendation, if you are not a linux novice: use ubuntu minimal install, and add things you want00:31
Benkinoobycrocket: by doning so you will have gnome3 and ubuntu under the hood00:32
naturalthanks wilee-nilee this is the ubuntu suport channel right? i just want to find the minimum specs, i cant find them yet00:32
wilee-nileenatural, Make a usb or burn a disc and see if it runs, I would be surprised if it did not.00:32
Benkinoobycrocket: but if you are not used to linux don't use minimal install00:32
crocketBenkinooby, Hmm..... it's hard to get DEs right by hand.00:32
crocketThere is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/13.04/release/00:33
Benkinoobycrocket: yep - is always a question how much you want it ;)00:33
Benkinoobycrocket: or if you find the right distro - in this case an ubuntu spin-off00:33
crocketWhen will 13.10 be released?00:34
reisiocrocket: shortly after it's done00:34
reisioprobably in the 10-th month of the year00:34
reisiohence .1000:34
crocketreisio, Is it easy to upgrade to that from 13.04?00:34
reisiocrocket: it should be00:35
crocketUpgrades have been problematic.00:35
Benkinoobycrocket: yes00:35
reisiocrocket: yes they have00:35
reisioeven problematic upgrades can be rectified, however00:35
reisiowithout reinstalling00:35
crocketI nowadays prefer to back up, install a new OS, and restore.00:35
Benkinoobycrocket: if you move from 13.04 to 13.10 it should be way less truoblesome than e.g. 12.10->13.1000:36
crocketIs 13.10 LTS?00:36
crocketno00:37
crocket14.04 might be the next LTS.00:37
UserErrorDoes anyone know if someone made a list of minimal X11 + Intel driver package list sans meta?00:38
reisiothat's what meta packages are...00:39
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crocketreisio, I upgraded slackware 13 to 14, and it led to some bugs months after the upgrade.00:40
fibberwhat is the difference between chown and chmod?00:40
crocketIt was hard to catch.00:40
crocketIt felt like man vs wild.00:41
reisiocrocket: probably just took you months to notice them :)00:41
reisiofibber: man chown: change file owner; man chmod: change file mode00:42
crocketreisio, it's difficult not to screw up package configurations during upgrades.00:43
UserErrorreisio00:43
UserErrorwithout using the metas00:43
crocketSome packages leave some trashes after removal.00:43
UserErrorindividual packages00:43
UserErroran "actually" minimal x11 install00:43
UserErrorfor only a specific GPU that will never change00:43
reisiocrocket: on Slackware? I'm sure it's more involved00:43
crocketThose trashes lead to bugs00:43
crocketreisio, yes00:43
reisiohaven't used it as an installation, personally00:44
crocketreisio, on slackware00:44
crocketThose byproducts can't be removed completely.00:44
reisiosure they can00:44
reisiobut Slackware is certainly more nuts and bolts00:44
reisioon purpose00:44
* LinuxGold started out with Slackware.00:44
crocketreisio, there are hundreds of thousands of softwares that leave trashes.00:44
LinuxGoldforced me to learn more about linux itself00:45
crocketautomatic removal aren't designed to remove them.00:45
crocketOld KDE configs interfere with new KDE.00:45
UserErrorcrocket, i wish bleachbit was better about that00:45
UserErrorthere is so much room to improve bleachbit00:46
reisiocrocket: doesn't mean you can't remove them, just that it's more involved :)00:46
crocketreisio, Any sane man wouldn't do it completely as men can't clean the street completely.00:46
Benkinoobyfibber: chmod changes file permissions, and chown changes file ownership00:46
reisio...00:46
drcasperguys can i get your assistance? i rented out a VSP that had ubuntu 12.10 installed, and I'm trying to get the desktop to show after installing tightvnc00:47
drcasperi can login and see the desktop, but i dont see any menus or bars or anything00:47
michaelwang32whats a VSP00:47
michaelwang32dont you mean VPS?00:47
crocketreisio, However, I guess I go with several upgrades.00:47
drcasperi have tried modifying the xstart file with no luck.. different variations00:47
drcasperyea sorry for the typo00:48
crocketI think I can run several upgrades without causing much trouble.00:48
michaelwang32what provider of vps did you get?00:48
michaelwang32what is the compony name00:48
drcasperpremiumvm00:49
michaelwang32ok00:49
drcasperdoes that matter? (just curious)00:49
michaelwang32not really00:49
michaelwang32i was asking so i could look at a vps00:49
drcasperi have ssh access00:49
crocket!nounity00:49
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic00:49
michaelwang32ok00:49
michaelwang32im not really good at linux00:49
crocketDo I need to install gnome-shell and gnome-tweak-tool to use gnome shell on ubuntu 13.04?00:50
michaelwang32why did you rent a linux vps00:50
drcasperi see.. so what's the easiest way to get this working ubottu .. upgrade ubuntu ?00:50
reisiocrocket: basically00:50
FekallI got a question..I had a hard lock on my Ubunutu server 13. which I had to do a manual shutdown on...I rebooted and only got to the point of begin: running /scripts/init-bottom...done...then it stalls00:50
Fekallany suggestions..help?00:50
drcaspermichaelwang32: cheap.. 4bucks a month :D00:50
michaelwang32ok00:51
michaelwang32http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gui-on-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-server.html00:51
michaelwang32read this00:51
FloodBot1michaelwang32: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:51
Polycarbey guys, i need some help i think... or maybe i dont, i will ask first then apologize afterwards if im the fool here... Anyone know if the Asus AC66 PCI-E NIC works in ubuntu? if drivers are needed then it is rather okay... =)00:51
crocketreisio, Why use gnome-tweak-tool instead of the official system settings?00:51
Fekallok..i will check that out ...thanks michaelwang3200:51
Ari-Yang!drivers | Polycarb00:51
reisiocrocket: you needn't00:51
Ari-Yanghmmm00:51
Ari-Yang!driver00:52
Polycarb!driver00:52
reisiocrocket: but gnome-shell is required for using... GNOME's ordinary shell00:52
binrootHey, what happens when you press 'A' in linux top?00:52
Ari-Yang!amd00:52
Ari-Yang!ati00:52
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto00:52
intirb_Hey guys.  Can someone help me understand these instructions for debugging ubuntu?00:52
drcasperubottu: i apoligize for not troughly understanding what you said before i asked a second question.. i am now installing "ubuntu-gnome-desktop"00:52
ubottudrcasper: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:52
UserErrorIs there a minimal oriented channel00:52
UserErrorfor ubuntu00:53
UserError!bot00:53
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tking__please how do i kill my real nick which is registered ... tking00:53
drcasper!classic00:53
ubottuThe default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic". For 11.10, see !notunity00:53
michaelwang32idk00:53
UserErrortking, ddos yourself00:53
tking__UerError i want to login with my nick tking but it keeps giving me tking__00:53
binrootwith 'top', what happens when you press 'A'?00:54
NMachadoUserError, lulz00:54
intirb_Could someone here help me with me with xtrace please?00:59
crocketDoes ubuntu installer recognize LVM volumes?01:01
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michaelwang32is ext4 good01:01
michaelwang32?01:01
M3tabaronnotes in Ubuntu?? I dont want to use Everpad. No sych for Tomboy in Ubuntu One anymore. Using footnote right now, but cant see how to sync the files. so... what is the solution? why is it that Ubuntu stopped supporting the Tomboy sync??01:05
Dr_Willisbecause there wasent a lot of people usng the feature01:05
Dr_WillisI think i saw guides somewhere on setting up dropbox or some other way to synhc tomboy notes01:06
Dr_Willisi think tomboy used mono also so a lot of people refuxed to use it for that reason also. (i maybe wrong)01:06
Dr_Willis!info gnote01:07
ubottugnote (source: gnote): desktop note taking program using Wiki style links. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.6.1-1 (raring), package size 3472 kB, installed size 8706 kB01:07
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/96965/tomboy-alternatives01:07
RBornertis there a channel for the ubuntu smart phone?01:08
Dr_Willis!touch01:08
ubottuInformation about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch01:08
M3tabaronDr_Willis: aha.. thanks :) good link.01:08
Dr_Willisi really wish they would beef up ubuntu one to have more notes/calander/other features that im using google for right now. ;) it would be handy01:09
Dr_WillisIt could do so much more01:09
Dr_Willisyou could also just save your notes or whatever onto your dropbox directory  that way all the pcs using dropbox couldget to them . same for ubuntu one.01:09
M3tabaronDr_Willis: you are right about the mono thing. But seems a bit silly they take It so serious. What Im trying to do is to get around any service under the patriot act, which i getting harder these days. and I agree with you. It is silly that Ubuntu ignore to provide the most basic apps.01:10
M3tabaronDr_Willis: Footnote is nice by the way. But I didnt figure out what files to sync to Ubunto One to get it to the cloud.01:11
Dr_Willisi tend to just use tiddlywiki - but its a bit weird compared to some note taking apps01:13
Dr_Willisgot wunderlist on the phone, and that google keep service also01:13
Dr_WillisNice thing about wunderlist. i go tit on the wifes phone also. so she can add things to the grocery list and not need to msg me to get moar milk and eggs01:14
M3tabaronDr_Willis: I agree.. Wunderlist is nice. I use Nitro now, synced with U1, and It works like a dream. Havent found a solution for calendar yet. I will check out tiddlywiki as well. What friendly name :D01:15
RBornertno01:16
M3tabaronDr_Willis: you are right..Wunderlist is so Macified that any female can use It01:16
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Dr_Willisall we need it for is groceries ;) and my weekend todo list01:20
Dr_Willistiddlywiki is very very differnt from the other list/note things.01:20
Dr_Willisbecause its a wiki  ;)01:20
Dr_Willis!info zim01:22
ubottuzim (source: zim): graphical text editor based on wiki technologies. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.59-1 (raring), package size 1150 kB, installed size 3850 kB01:22
M3tabaronDr_Willis: wow... you actually bring a todo list to the bar?01:22
subhajitroyki01:22
jrib1) drink beer 2) drink more beer01:24
Dr_Willishttp://alternativeto.net/software/tomboy/  seems to have some differnt ones also01:24
LinuxGoldbeer -- hmm...01:24
M3tabaron17) Throw up in taxi01:25
LinuxGold smirnoff ice triple black01:26
Dr_Willis18) wonder whos clothes you are wearing.01:26
LinuxGoldfreshly unpopped.01:26
LinuxGoldahh...01:26
M3tabaronthat is the global crisis talking. Nerds get laid, but cant go for a beer!01:27
UserErrorM3, i'm doing both right now01:28
M3tabaronUserError: okay.. I admit I made that one up. Im reading note app reviews. Guess that makes you the lucky one01:28
UserErrorThe deal was, if she couldn't learn javascript she couldn't bitch about my multitasking01:28
UserErrorShe couldn't learn javascript01:29
IdleOne!ot01:29
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Dr_Williswasent there some ubuntu 'touch' note app in the works? I seem to recall a list of simple apps for touch (or was i thinking gnome-shell)01:30
M3tabaronDr_Willis: chances are some of the good stuff will surface when Ubuntu Mobile matures01:31
Dr_Willishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Collection01:31
NedsFlamHey all. I am working on converting the sum-of-products into NAND gates. f(x1, x2, x3) = SUM(m)(1,2,7). I have simplified the output to: notx1*x3+x2x3. However, I think the AND gate output should be x1*x2. Is there a way I can simplify my expression at its current stage. Or do I need to start over?01:32
NedsFlamshit wrong channel guys01:32
NedsFlamsorry01:32
Dr_Willisand.. what channel do you think you are asking this in? ;)01:33
NedsFlamhahaha01:33
NedsFlamI thought I was in math01:33
NedsFlamsorry01:33
FloodBot1NedsFlam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:33
NedsFlamIt wouldn't hurt to get an answer from someone in here either :p01:33
bwaynegoodness. don't look at the sshd entries in auth.log unless you want to have a heart attack.01:34
Dr_Willisbwayne:  logwatch can clean them up a bit. ;)01:34
Dr_Willisand fail2ban is handy to weed out snoopers01:34
NMachadow01:35
bwayneDr_Willis: just installed fail2ban. not familiar with logwatch. thinking of installing denyhost and finding a way to deny anything not in my state01:36
Dr_Willis!info logwatch01:36
ubottulogwatch (source: logwatch): log analyser with nice output written in Perl. In component main, is optional. Version 7.4.0+svn20120502rev103-1ubuntu1 (raring), package size 439 kB, installed size 2019 kB01:36
Dr_Willislogwatch just vives you a nice log output.01:36
bwaynehmmm ... so it pretties up auth.log et al ?01:37
Dr_WillisIm not sure if you can combine fail2ban and denyhost - or if you just shouldent. ;)01:37
Dr_Willisallthe logs it can put in a nice report01:37
Dr_Willisapt, sshd. logins, sudo stuff.01:37
bwayneDr_Willis: from what I read, they play nice together.01:37
bwayneDr_Willis: sweet. installed logwatch.01:38
Dr_Willisi recall somthing about setting up Port-Knocking if you wanted to get extreme :)01:38
bwaynejust enough to keep them off my Ubuntu.01:39
Dr_Willisusing ssh keys instead of passwords is handy also. but i always stumble upon some app that cand handle keys01:39
bwayneYeah. I'm the only AllowedUser and only key based auth.01:39
Dr_Willisso you are just seeing people banging on a door that dosent have a knob. ;)01:40
Dr_Willisso you could set up fail2ban to ban them after 1 bad attempt and do it for a very long time01:40
bwayneWhat I'd like to do is write a script that detects the repeated login attempts, and then launches a low orbit ion cannon at the attacking IP. but IP's get spoofed.01:41
Dr_Willisi recall seeing lots of attempts on my DigitalOcean VPS also.01:42
M3tabaronDr_Willis: thanks for the links. I checked out a few apps, and Zim came out as the winner :) Im running pantheon on 13.04, and even though It is great eyecandy, the Elementary apps are far from ready.01:57
Dr_Willislooked at the Elemtary OS stuff.. and really. I wasent too impressed.  The whole 'lets make eery thing minimal' trend seems more about marketing/fad then useability ;(01:58
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M3tabaronDr_Willis: hmm..to some extend. Unity is like a pepperspray in the face, but you are right, when the guys at elementary implements the new app control, the risk of ending up being just as lame as the apple hipsters. But, since I just had to ask around to find a satisfying note taking app, and I havent even solved the problem finding a good calendar, I think Its reasonable to say that there is a need for simplicity to some degree. Many apps in02:05
M3tabaronthe software center are .. well.. crap, and that scares away many first time users. Personally I think the next gnome will be awesome for the geeks. I dont see where Unity fits in. Unity is trying to Mac, and even at that It fails.02:05
Dr_Willisi dont find unity tryont to be like Mac.. Its more like trying to be  android-ish in wahs02:06
Dr_Willisways02:06
bazhangM3tabaron, so file a wishlist bug, or choose something else02:06
OerHeksM3tabaron, install synaptic, for better package view/control02:06
bazhang!nounity | M3tabaron02:06
ubottuM3tabaron: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic02:06
Dr_Willisits still hard to beat synaptic.02:06
OerHeksno commercial ware too, softwarecentre is not capable of filtering that stuff02:07
* LinuxGold sips some more02:08
Psil0Cybinhey guys can someone help me by any chance02:09
Psil0Cybinis there any easy way to set up nfs so i can share a folder02:09
M3tabaronOerHeks: I will try that solution. thanks :)02:09
Psil0Cybinto my media center?02:09
Dr_Willisyea - i rarely use software center - but when i do - i definatly dont want to see some $2 trivial-apps all over the place02:09
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  what sort of media center? Most can do samba shares. NFS may be a bit harder02:10
Dr_WillisDLNA servers sharfeing media is also commonplace02:10
crocketsharfeing?02:11
Psil0Cybinit does allow samba share02:11
Psil0Cybinim using02:11
Psil0CybinRaspbmc02:11
Psil0CybinXbmc02:11
Psil0Cybinbut for the Raspberry Pi02:11
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:11
Psil0CybinI have never used Samba sharing, do i need to download something?02:11
crocketDoes DLNA transcode media?02:11
Dr_Willisxbmc can handle UPNP/DLNA - thats one of the easyest ways to set up  a remote source for it02:12
Dr_Willisthe Dlna SERVER can transcode - depending on the server02:12
crocketDr_Willis, I heard DLNA can stream videos.02:12
crocketI want untempered binary stream.02:12
Dr_Williscrocket:  thats its main job. ;)02:12
Dr_Williswhat sort of binary stream>02:12
crocketDr_Willis, I want DLNA to stream video files as are.02:12
crocketI don't want transcoding which reduces A/V quality.02:13
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: so how would i go about getting my portable hard drive hooked up to my acer aspire one (netbook) to show up on the Xbmc02:13
Dr_Willisthe specific dlna server can do differnt things. depend son the server02:13
Psil0CybinI am used to windows02:13
Psil0Cybinwhere you just right click and share02:13
Psil0Cybinso im confused which to use02:13
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  plug it in. add it as a source in the xbmc gui.02:13
Psil0Cybinsamba vs others02:13
Psil0Cybini cannot plug in the hard drive02:13
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  samba is the easiest way02:13
Psil0Cybinit has to be plugged into another computer02:13
Dr_Willisxbmc -> add source. browse to the share. give it a name and let it scan it02:14
Psil0Cybinmy hard drive is on a laptop, my raspberry pi is the server02:14
Psil0Cybinbut it wont let me share02:14
Psil0Cybinthe folder02:14
Psil0Cybin....02:14
Psil0Cybinso im guessing i need to do02:14
Psil0Cybinsudo apt-get install samba02:14
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:14
Psil0Cybin?02:14
Dr_WillisRaspberry Pi - running XBMC  can work as a DLNA server and serve to other xbmc machines on the network.02:14
crocketHow does ubuntu mount its encrypted home?02:14
jribcrocket: ecryptfs02:14
crocket /etc/profile /etc/profile.d and ~/.profile don't seem to do it.02:14
jrib!encrypt | crocket02:14
ubottucrocket: For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory02:14
Dr_WillisI do Pi+xbmc to other pis and xbmc servers all the time.02:14
crocketjrib, It seems to use truecrypt02:14
Psil0Cybinokay Dr_Willis im confused, sorry...you lost me02:15
Psil0Cybinso do i use Samba?02:15
Psil0Cybini dont think my ubuntu machine has samba02:15
jribcrocket: are you sure?  How did you set them up?  Anyway, the ecryptfs stuff should happen through pam02:15
Psil0Cybinso im guesing i need to get it correct?02:15
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  you dont HAVE to use samba.   XBMC can access many types of sources for videos02:15
crocketjrib, I have .TrueCrypt under my home directory.02:15
Dr_Willissamba is one of the easiest ways however02:15
Psil0Cybinbut it cannot find my hard drive02:15
Dr_Willis'what' can not find the hard drive02:15
Psil0Cybinit lets me find sources but not my videos02:15
Psil0Cybinthe xmbc02:15
Dr_Willisdid you set up a 'share;' to share the hard drive?02:16
Psil0Cybinxmbc cannot find any media02:16
Psil0Cybinno02:16
Psil0Cybini am trying to do that02:16
Psil0Cybinthats what i want to have done02:16
Dr_Willisso what is shareing the hard drive? what OS what pc?02:16
Psil0CybinXubuntu02:16
Psil0Cybinis the machine02:16
Psil0Cybinand a hard drive is a portable usb hard drive02:16
Psil0Cybini want to share the usb hard drive02:16
Psil0Cybinto the xbmc02:16
Dr_Willisand you are shareing them TO what exactly? a Raspberry Pi running XBMC?02:16
bazhangPsil0Cybin, commas, not enter key02:17
guest__Is there a way to give each of my workspaces their own wallpapers?02:17
jribcrocket: how did you setup your encrypted homes/02:17
crocketjrib, I checked "encrypt home" in ubuntu liveCD installer02:17
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: that is correct02:17
crocketI just installed 13.0402:17
Psil0Cybini want my Rpi to see my hard drive connected to a laptop02:18
Psil0Cybinon the same network02:18
jribcrocket: what ubuntu version?02:18
guest__I am running Ubuntu 12.04 x64.02:18
crocketjrib, 13.0402:18
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  want to know the easyiest way? Set up PLEX on the ubuntu box. and then use the raspberrypi-PLEX disrto on the pi. ;)02:18
Psil0Cybinoh boy02:18
Psil0Cybinokay02:18
Psil0Cybinill just try samba02:18
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  or if you want to go samba route.. right click on the mounted video drive. and see if you can 'share' it02:18
Psil0Cybinso i would sudo apt-get install samba02:18
Psil0Cybinif i dont have it correct02:19
Psil0Cybin?02:19
Dr_Willisgo ahead and install samba. its not like its huge. ;)02:19
Dr_Willisright click->share - on ubuntu will automatically install samba (it will ask)02:19
Psil0Cybini do not see02:19
Psil0Cybinright click share02:19
Psil0Cybinon my hard drive02:19
Dr_Willisperhaps xubuntu dont have it. I normally use ubuntu/unity02:19
Psil0CybinEject - Open terminal - Zoom in - Zoom out02:19
Psil0Cybinso im going to go ahead and try and install samba02:20
jribcrocket: it's possible you've setup truecrypt but I'm fairly certain ubuntu uses ecryptfs for encrypted homes02:20
crockethmm02:20
crocketjrib, I haven't formatted /home02:20
jribcrocket: you should have .ecryptfs probably in /home or /home/user02:20
crocketIf I instructed ubuntu installer not to format /home, does it ignore home encryption?02:21
Dr_Willishmm. xubuntus file manager - dosent seem to have shareing as a feature.02:21
jribcrocket: well my guess would be that any new account would still be setup using ecryptfs but that's just what I would expect02:21
Obi1hello02:26
jgkAny1 frm India02:29
jgkIm a new user02:29
bazhang!in | jgk02:30
ubottujgk: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India02:30
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Obi1is there any blocker that could block serain websites exept No Script for Firefox02:33
an3kadblock plus02:33
bazhang!info dansguardian | Obi102:33
ubottuObi1: dansguardian (source: dansguardian): Web content filtering. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.1.1-5 (raring), package size 462 kB, installed size 1724 kB02:33
Obi1let me look a it i run the IPtraf  Awesome tool i love it02:34
Obi1dans guardian was on ubuntu christian edition yes?02:35
bazhangcould well have been Obi102:36
king1337-2king1337-2, recommends iptraf to anyone02:36
Obi1it was native for Ubuntu CE last time i run it awesome job preventing going on XXX web sites02:37
Obi1install add block plus for firefox02:37
Obi1let give it a try02:38
Obi1brb02:38
guesytanyone know a way in bash to rename files from like 1 to 10 but only odd numbers02:39
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Obi1Adblocker plus is awesome improved my internet so Much WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i`m happy02:40
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Obi1thank you guys02:41
bazhangguesyt, try #bash02:41
an3kObi1: the best (ad)blocker around ;)02:41
Obi1awesome to have you guys around this make my life easy , i read news in 5 diferent languages and darn computer is fast but internet geting slower and slower , so now i can see whit Iptraf who is and ad blocker plus work fine too02:44
bwaynelook into ghostery and disconnect extensions as well. more privacy oriented.02:44
Psil0CybinDr_Willis:02:44
Psil0Cybini installed samba02:44
Dr_Willismoo?02:44
Psil0Cybinhow do i configure it so the xbmc can pick up the folder?02:44
Dr_Willisdid you make a share?>02:45
Obi1Ghostery is mystery company whit double standarts says one page in internet02:45
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: do you make a share by adding something with the link to the file in the samba.conf02:45
Psil0Cybin?02:45
Obi1Hi Willis02:45
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  shares can be defined in /etc/samba/smb.conf     correct02:45
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  thers also a feature that lets you have user defined shars. but those are not really needed02:45
bwaynethey provide an excellent service. What they say they're blocking, they're blocking.02:46
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  what filesystem is on the external usb hd?02:46
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: how do i find out02:46
bwayne..."says one page on the internet " ... let's see what else I can find on one page on the internetz.02:46
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  sudo blkid    or 'sudo fdisk -l'02:46
Psil0Cybinsdb102:47
Psil0Cybinis the partition02:47
Psil0Cybinso sdb02:47
Psil0Cybin?02:47
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:47
Psil0Cybin/dev/sdb?02:47
Dr_Williswhat FILESYSTEM is the partion formated to - is the imporntant part02:47
Dr_Willisntfs, vfatm ext3/402:47
Psil0CybinNTFS02:47
Psil0Cybinsorry02:48
Obi1http://www.evidon.com/consumers-privacy/ghostery02:48
Dr_Willisyou will most likely need to make an ectry in /etc/fstab to mount it where  all users can read from it. the 'ntfs-config' tool should be able to automate that for you02:48
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: do i need to download an application02:49
Psil0Cybinso sudo apt-get intall ntfs-config02:49
Psil0Cybin?02:49
Dr_Willisyes Psil0Cybin    its not installed by default02:49
Dr_Willisor you can make a fstab entry by hand.   - example line from my fstab..02:49
Dr_WillisUUID=19C853E9785E19AE/media/VideoShare3000ntfs-3gdefaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8,noauto0002:49
Dr_Willissilly spaces...02:49
Obi1http://dnsw.info/betrad.com the real ghoustery02:50
Dr_WillisUUID=19C853E9785E19AE     /media/VideoShare3000    ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8,noauto   0   002:50
Dr_Willisyou get your UUID from that sudo blkid command.02:50
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Obi1:P i look them up02:50
Psil0Cybinokay so hold on02:51
Psil0Cybini got ntfs-config02:51
Psil0Cybini enable write to the drive?02:51
Dr_Willisyou really just need guests to have full read access. but you may want to allow read/write02:51
Dr_Willisif you truely want full access from the remote pcs02:52
Psil0Cybinall i want is to play videos on the media centre.02:52
Dr_Willisim on a home lan - so i let all the users have full access02:52
Dr_Willis you need READ access.. writeing is optional02:52
Dr_Willisits easy to change this later. The trick is you have to have  open enough permissions on the share. for  xbmc to access it.02:53
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: when i select the sdb1 so /media/area51 and click support for external devices it also checks off internal devices02:53
Psil0Cybinis that normal02:53
Psil0Cybini do not want to share my internal hard drive02:53
Psil0Cybinonly the one it shows bellow in the box02:53
Dr_Willisbut just the defaults should work. You want it mounted from fstab - because it really should be mounted at boot time. Not afte the user logs in and sccess it02:53
Psil0Cybinmedia/area51 which i called my hard drive02:53
Dr_Willisis your usb hd mounted right now?02:54
Dr_Willisyou can just make a fstab entry to mount your sdb1  by hand and not even use ntfs-config  but its a handy tool to have/know about02:55
Psil0Cybinyea its mounted right now02:55
Dr_Willisor you could just share all  of /media/ then every drive you plug in and access would be availiable over the network.02:55
Psil0Cybinbut is it normal that ntfs-tool also selected to share internal sources02:55
Psil0Cybinbut it onlky shows the folder of the hard drive02:55
Dr_WillisNo idea - ntfs-config is a little weird at times02:56
Psil0Cybini just want to make sure my home directory isnt being shared02:56
Dr_Willisyou can setup a home share if you want. ;)   it will still need your users password.02:56
dre_hey guy02:56
Dr_WillisI share my home/videos ;)02:56
dre_i am trying to  make a one key run a script  ubuntu server02:57
Psil0Cybinsigh02:58
Psil0CybinDr_Willis:02:58
Psil0Cybinstill no luck02:58
Psil0Cybinthe xbmc does not find any folders!!02:58
Psil0Cybini cannot figure out what is going on02:58
Psil0Cybinall i want to do is share a simple folder....02:58
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  you havent made a SHARE YET have you?02:58
Dr_Willisyou need to MOUNT the drive somewhere. then share that location02:58
Psil0Cybinwell i didnt know how to do it02:58
Psil0Cybinwell the drive is mounted02:59
Psil0Cybinim looking @ the files now02:59
Dr_Willisntfs-config or fstab will MOUNT it somewhere.02:59
Dr_Williswhere does  'mount' say its mounted to?02:59
Psil0Cybinmount point02:59
SchrodingersScatI prefer sshfs when I can use it.02:59
Psil0Cybinmedia/area5102:59
Psil0Cybinarea51 (is my hd name)02:59
Dr_Willisso if the path is /media/area51      you need to make a samba SHARE that shares that path03:00
Dr_Willisthat would be in /etc/samba/smb.conf03:00
Psil0CybinYes03:00
Psil0Cybini see a share03:00
Psil0Cybinin samba/smb.conf03:00
Psil0Cybinit says03:00
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:00
dre_any help03:00
daftykinsNO HELP03:01
daftykinsunless you ask.03:01
Dr_Willisthere are dozens of example shares in that file.  You need to make an entry for your specicic location03:01
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin: ` for example there is a ;[cdrom] share   You can use that one as a templlate03:01
Psil0Cybin[Area51] path = /media/Area51 ; writeable = no ; browsable = yes ; guest = okay03:01
Psil0Cybin= yes03:01
Dr_Willisso how did you make that share?03:01
Psil0Cybinso i uncomment03:01
Psil0Cybinwriteable03:01
Psil0Cybinand browsable?03:01
Dr_Willisyou dont need it writeable. you do want it browseable i imagine03:02
Psil0Cybini made it with a GUI program called Samba offered in Ubuntu programs03:02
Dr_Willisand the path is correct?03:02
dre_i would like to map a key to run a script ubunut server03:02
Dr_Willisalso be sure it has guest ok = ok03:02
Psil0Cybinokay03:02
Psil0Cybini changed it to browsable03:02
Psil0Cybinsaved it03:02
Psil0Cybinand still i cannot find it03:02
Psil0Cybinon the Pi03:02
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:02
Psil0Cybinit has03:03
Psil0Cybinguest ok = yes03:03
Dr_Willisyou need to restart the samba service i belive. 'sudo service samba restart'03:03
Psil0Cybinsays03:03
dre_i would like to map a key to run a script ubunut server03:03
Psil0Cybinsamba unrecognized service03:03
Psil0Cybin:S03:03
Psil0Cybinwtf03:04
Dr_Willisi would also give your USER a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a YOURUSERNAME'03:04
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:04
Dr_WillisYou did install the samba service?>03:04
Psil0Cybinyes....03:04
Psil0Cybinwhen i type sudo apt-get install samba03:04
Psil0Cybinit says03:04
Psil0Cybin0 installed 0 updated samba is already the newest version03:04
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Psil0Cybinwhat the eff03:04
Guest26420Oops03:05
icesword!when03:05
Guest26420Apparently you already got it03:06
Guest26420!when03:06
iceswordi remember it s been crowded here why s so few today03:08
michaelwang32can i update the linux kernal and grub on linux mint 1503:08
Guest26420Ain't me.  I took a bath last Saturday.03:08
michaelwang32ok03:08
bazhang!mintsupport | michaelwang3203:09
ubottumichaelwang32: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org03:09
chocolatemousseHmm, anyone say my name recently in here?03:09
chocolatemousseMust have been a really old alert.03:09
daftykinschocolatemousse: i hope not03:09
daftykinsunless it was I LOVE CHOCOLATE MOUSSE03:09
chocolatemoussedaftykins, ? I probably said something to someone03:09
chocolatemoussedaftykins, but that was days ago03:10
michaelwang32can i update the linux kernal and grub on ubuntu 13.0403:10
daftykinsXD03:10
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: I seem to have found the folder03:10
bazhangmichaelwang32, you're using MINT, dont ask for support here03:10
Psil0Cybinafter i specifically looked for the IP03:10
chocolatemoussedaftykins, funny, but unlikely03:10
Psil0Cybinlike imputted it on the Pi03:10
michaelwang32ok03:10
Psil0Cybinof the folder03:10
Psil0Cybinbut i cannot see the content03:10
Psil0Cybinit found Area5103:10
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:10
Psil0Cybinbut does not show me any other folders inside03:10
chocolatemousseUnless it was #ubuntu-mousse03:10
OldTexastestin'03:10
OldTexasOK, got my name this time :)03:11
asadaka little help here !!03:11
asadakcan some help me03:11
chocolatemousse!ask | asadak03:11
ubottuasadak: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:11
bazhangasadak, ask a question first03:11
iceswordbazhang you FUCKtard! how s sucking a 5 inch penis in your mouth? did you swallow? you fucking gay!03:12
Psil0CybinDr_Willis:03:12
Psil0Cybinnow i cannot even mount the drive03:12
Psil0Cybinwtf is going on03:12
Psil0Cybinit says03:12
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:12
chocolatemousse!language | icesword03:12
ubottuicesword: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.03:12
asadaki downloaded ubuntu mini remix and virtual box03:12
Psil0Cybinfailed to mount area 51 error mounting mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with mount only root cna mount /dev/sdb1 on media area 5103:12
asadakbut i do not how to insatll ubuntu mini remix in virtual box03:13
asadakHelp in how to insatll ubuntu mini remix in virtual box03:14
chocolatemousseasadak, ask in virtualbox, specifically under their other linux feature03:14
chocolatemousseasadak, unless there's an ubuntu specific problem, you're not gonna get any help in here for that problem likely03:14
chocolatemousseasadak, but I'd also recommend just selecting the "Ubuntu" option, it'll likely just work ;)03:15
OldTexasWelp. I bought this TP Link TL-WN725N  wireless USB thing thinkin' I'd replace my cable cause I'm movin' the PC.  System don;t see nothin'.  Any idys.03:15
chocolatemousseOldTexas, try installing drivers yet?03:16
asadaki have setup the os and it stops at something like a terminal03:16
chocolatemousseOldTexas, that's usually the problem with wifi on linux03:16
chocolatemousseasadak, are you sure that's not normal03:16
chocolatemousseasadak, 'mini' sounds barebones03:16
chocolatemousseasadak, it might not have a ui?03:17
OldTexasIt's only got Win drivers.  Should I try those?03:17
asadakchocolatemousse : in the terminal like thing - it says Welcome to Ubuntu 13.0403:17
chocolatemousseasadak, then it worked03:17
chocolatemousseasadak, gonna have to consult the manual with regards to if any X is supported03:17
asadakchocolatemousse : so where is the installer03:18
chocolatemousseasadak, you don't have a problem, your 'Ubuntu' is installed/booted03:18
chocolatemousseasadak, the problem (unless you can show me otherwise) is that you don't understand what you're doing03:18
chocolatemousseasadak, sounds like to me that IS the installer03:18
asadakchocolatemousse : can you help me how to install a UI03:18
chocolatemousseasadak, don't install the mini version03:18
chocolatemousseasadak, just use the regular install03:18
asadakWhy ?03:18
chocolatemousseasadak, because that has a ui, that's why03:19
chocolatemousseOldTexas, yeah, try the ndiswrapper03:19
OldTexasalrighty03:19
valenessg nickserv identify a803bla03:19
valenessWell shit03:19
chocolatemousseOldTexas, make sure you install the dkms kernel modules as well03:20
valenessTime to burn my computer03:20
OldTexasOK... headin out to figger out what all that means... brb03:20
chocolatemousseOldTexas, I think Ubuntu doesn't come with them by default, and the ndiswrapper kernel modules are missing from the repos, which I think is a problem - haven't confirmed myself but I was helping someone in here the other day with it and it seemed like that was the case03:20
chocolatemousseOldTexas, just a heads up03:20
chocolatemousseOldTexas, a kernel modules is kinda like a driver03:20
chocolatemousse!info ndiswrapper03:21
ubottuPackage ndiswrapper does not exist in raring03:21
asadakchocolatemousse any help in installing the UI that is user friendly03:21
chocolatemousseasadak, use ubuntu.org and download the iso?03:21
chocolatemousseor whatever the ubuntu.com site is03:21
asadakI have Ubuntu03:21
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: question03:21
chocolatemousseasadak, you said you have 'Mini' I don't know what that is03:21
asadakBut i need to try out Ubuntu Mini Remix03:21
chocolatemousseasadak, *sigh* well you did03:22
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: the computer i am sharing the drive off cannot access the internet anymore do you think what ever i did could have messed with the drivers03:22
chocolatemousseasadak, and you didn't like it03:22
bazhang!mini > chocolatemousse03:22
ubottuchocolatemousse, please see my private message03:22
chocolatemoussebazhang, asadak ok he needs to know that then03:22
chocolatemoussehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD03:22
chocolatemousseasadak, read that03:22
asadakchocolatemousse : http://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/03:23
bazhangchocolatemousse, ndis is the very last step to suggest for fixing wireless issues03:23
chocolatemoussebazhang, ok03:23
chocolatemoussebazhang, assumed OldTexas had a bit more experience than I should have perhaps03:23
chocolatemousseOldTexas, if you are here, bazhang is right you should first check for wifi drivers for your card, native to linux03:24
OldTexasI'm a scratchin' my head, but if you got me pinted in the right direction I'll get there.  :)03:24
OldTexasK...03:25
chocolatemousseOldTexas, well ndiswrapper is a last resort we use to try and load windows wifi drivers inside linux03:25
Omen_20anyone know if bluetooth has been messed with in recent updates? My bluetooth has stopped connecting out of the blue.03:25
OldTexasAh, reading about it now....03:25
chocolatemousseOldTexas, if you don't know about kernel modules then you may well have not known there are linux drivers for your card (potentially)03:25
chocolatemousseasadak, read the link I sent you03:26
asadakSo should i install the iso ?03:26
OldTexasI was lookin' earlier and it made some references to RealTek card drivers.... Just had oodles a stuff and I kinda got bogged down, but y'all got me going' again.   Lookin' now.03:27
chocolatemousseOldTexas, ok. :)03:27
dre_how to make ubuntu server run a shell script with key press03:27
chocolatemousseOldTexas, hang on gonna dig up the official wifi tutorial, the steps go like so: a) find your wifi card number b) find drivers c) install drivers d) test e) scratch your head and conclude they didn't install f) try ndiswrapper03:27
bazhangdre_, try in #ubuntu-server yet?03:28
chocolatemousseOldTexas, I assumed you had already tried steps a through e sorry ;)03:28
chocolatemousseOldTexas, you seemed smart :)03:28
dre_yes03:28
dre_the script work03:28
OldTexasLOL K03:28
dre_but i would like when i press a key it would run03:29
chocolatemousse!wifi | OldTexas03:29
ubottuOldTexas: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:29
OldTexasWell I was smart, then DOS replaced CP/m.  Then I got smart again, n' the NT kernal replaced the DOS kernal, now I'm dumb as a box a rocks agian.03:30
chocolatemousseasadak, yes, go ahead and install - if you can't figure out the mini installer, either wait for someone to guide you through it or read the manual03:30
chocolatemousseasadak: but basically there is no gui installer03:30
chocolatemousseasadak: not with mini installer03:30
chocolatemousseasadak: you could create one that had a gui installer, but then you wouldn't be asking this question in the first place ;)03:31
OldTexasWorkin' through it now, thanks for the heads up!03:31
chocolatemousseOldTexas, Np :)03:31
TsarObombaanyone have any experience with bacahe?03:32
TsarObombabcache*03:32
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JollyGreenhello03:34
reisio'lo jolly03:34
chocolatemousseJollyGreen, ello03:35
TsarObombaim looking for a good guide to bache of someone who had done it on 13.04 after installing a newer kernel03:36
TsarObombaor someone who has03:36
JollyGreenNew guy here to Ubuntu ( insert mocking here) any advice on applications that i could use to learn python or c++?03:36
Ari-Yang!python03:36
ubottupython is a popular Object Oriented scripting language included in Ubuntu. For more on Python please see http://www.python.org/ or #python03:36
Ari-Yang!c++03:36
chocolatemousseJollyGreen, no mocking, try build-essential03:36
TsarObombathagts not gonna helpo him learn much03:37
TsarObombabesides install compilers03:37
chocolatemousseJollyGreen, use g++, learn to use gedit/kate/vim/emacs/<insert favorite text editorhere>03:37
TsarObombaJollyGreen: grab an :oreilly": book03:37
TsarObombasome are available for free online03:37
chocolatemousseJollyGreen, and go find the C++/Python people ;)03:37
OldTexaschocolatemousse, take a lookie here.  http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/   Only problem is, all I learned so far is sudo get-app yada-yada03:37
TsarObombaGet a real IDE03:37
chocolatemousseOldTexas, hmm03:38
JollyGreen(Thanks everyone for there feedback) 8)03:38
TsarObombanp03:38
chocolatemoussenp03:38
OldTexasTat's if since 12.04 they've added the driver in newer releases03:38
chocolatemousseJollyGreen, you should try both IDE and no IDE03:39
chocolatemousseJollyGreen, I've used both, I like no IDE03:39
chocolatemousseother people like IDE03:39
TsarObombaOldTexas: why nbot use the ubuntu kernel ppa03:39
chocolatemousseTsarObomba, he needs more basic info03:39
chocolatemousseTsarObomba, like knowing what card he has03:39
OldTexas<===  Noob03:39
TsarObombaThey have the newer kernel for every version, even the ubuntu patched kernels for saucy, raring etc03:40
TsarObombai dont know what his issue is03:40
OldTexasThe chipset is RealTek, so thats good... one sec...03:40
chocolatemousseOldTexas, did you already try the GUI options? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/SolvingWireless03:40
TsarObombaand im busy looking for info on bcache03:40
JollyGreenninja ide?03:40
chocolatemousseTsarObomba, then be busy03:40
TsarObombalinux-firmware-nonfree03:40
Psil0Cybinhey guys does anyone know how i can stream videos from my laptop (the videos are located on a portable hard drive) i want to stream them to my raspbmc but i cannotget samba working03:41
TsarObombahttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/03:41
chocolatemousseOldTexas, at the bottom of that page there are some technical tools to find your hardware version numbers03:41
OldTexaschocolatemousse,  started it, I think I took a wrong left turn though03:41
chocolatemousseOldTexas, you need to know a very specific model number03:41
TsarObombahttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-saucy/03:41
chocolatemousseOldTexas, yeah sometimes those docs aren't the most straightforward03:41
chocolatemousseTsarObomba, not helping03:41
TsarObombaits probably in firmware-nonfree03:42
D3xt0rPsil0Cybin streaming a video is done by VLC streaming mode03:42
TsarObombamost of the realkteks are03:42
TsarObombachocolatemousse: says who03:42
TsarObombaim not helping you03:42
TsarObombashush03:42
chocolatemousseTsarObomba, says OldTexas, feel free to contradict me03:42
TsarObombaim giving resources to OldTexas03:42
chocolatemousseTsarObomba, *sigh* resources he doesn't understand how to use03:42
TsarObombachockey: he hasnt said anything to me03:42
TsarObombaerr03:42
TsarObombachocolatemousse:03:42
Ari-Yangwth is going on here? who needs help with what?03:43
TsarObombai will just mentally ignore your pointlesws banter from now on in order to catalyze03:43
chocolatemousse!language | TsarObomba03:43
ubottuTsarObomba: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.03:43
TsarObombaAri-Yang: apparently a realtek wireless, OldTexas03:43
TsarObombachocolatemousse: language?03:43
TsarObombahaha03:43
TsarObombawhat language03:43
OldTexasRTL8192cu http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#277203:43
TsarObombabanter?03:43
chocolatemousseAri-Yang, OldTexas is new to Ubuntu, needs help with his wifi usb stick03:43
chocolatemousseTsarObomba, ...03:43
TsarObombaive used NO bad language, nice try kiddo03:43
OldTexasReaklTek chipset. TP-Link makes the usb hickey03:44
TsarObombaAnd i use +gR, ubottu cannot msg me03:44
Ari-YangTsarObomba, chocolatemousse, lets move on, no need to spam the place with pointless bickering ;/03:44
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  it was mentioned earlier - use a DLNA/Upnp server is one way03:44
chocolatemousseAri-Yang, agreed03:44
TsarObombaAri-Yang: I agreed with that before he decided i said "bad words"....03:44
TsarObombaheh03:44
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  xbmc can get to videos from a varity of sources.   if you put xbmc on the laptop and set it up  - IT can stream videos to other pcs on the network running xbmc03:45
TsarObombaSo, who knows about bcache?03:45
chocolatemousseTsarObomba, its not about bad words, its also about attitude03:45
Ari-Yang*nod* afk.... Good luck to all who are having difficulties~03:45
TsarObombapointless banter?03:45
IdleOnechocolatemousse: Please drop it for now.03:45
TsarObombahe said it was pointless03:45
TsarObombajeez let it go03:45
OldTexasDownloadin' a file for that chipset for Linux from RealTek...  Lemme see what I go03:46
OldTexasDownloadin' a file for that chipset for Linux from RealTek...  Lemme see what I got03:46
chocolatemousseOldTexas, k03:46
TsarObombaOldTexas: have you tried installing linux-firmware-nonfree03:46
TsarObombaits a package in the repo03:46
TsarObombaIt may help, it has firmware for realtek chips03:46
chocolatemousseTsarObomba, OldTexas try explaining to him what a repo is03:46
chocolatemousse:)03:46
Dr_WillisOldTexas:  if you can get a wired connection, or a wireless connection using a differnt wifi dongle/usb plug - that can make things a lot easier03:46
OldTexasrepository03:46
TsarObombachocolatemousse: welcome to real ignore this time03:47
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: take a look @ your pm03:47
Psil0Cybini have a question for you03:47
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  there was no need to remove samba.03:47
IdleOneTsarObomba: announcing your ignores is not needed or helpful. Please don't do it again.03:47
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  and look at your fstab entry - if its trying to mount the drive. it needs to be correct03:47
TsarObombaIdleOne: im trying to peoplefully get him to stop03:48
TsarObombaThat is all03:48
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: where is the fstab entry located03:48
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  the 'noauto' option in fstab will make it skip that drive untill you manually mount it03:48
chocolatemousseOldTexas, lemme know how it goes03:48
OldTexasDon't mean to make nobody upset guys..please.03:48
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  /etc/fstab03:48
Psil0Cybinokay03:48
TsarObombaSo, who knows about bcache? anyone?03:48
OldTexasWill do03:48
Dr_Willis!fstab | Psil0Cybin03:48
ubottuPsil0Cybin: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions03:48
Psil0Cybinlet me take a look03:48
chocolatemousseOldTexas, I'm fine :)03:48
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  i belive it will ask/mtnion it cant be found and you can hit 's' to skip the drive at boot time03:49
TsarObombaOldTexas: try opening software center, or if you know how to use apt-get, oinstall "linux-firmware-nonfree"03:49
TsarObombaafter than, reboot03:49
TsarObombaChances are, your card will work03:49
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: do i open /etc/fstab03:49
Psil0Cybinwith nano03:49
Psil0Cybinand take a look?03:49
OldTexasworth a try03:49
TsarObombaOldTexas: definitely03:49
TsarObombasince i fixed an issue with a realtek wireless with that same package03:50
Psil0CybinDr_Willis:03:51
Psil0Cybinunder options03:51
Psil0Cybinit aleady nosuid03:51
Psil0Cybinor somthing03:51
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:51
Psil0Cybindo i change it to noauto ?03:51
chocolatemousseOldTexas, if you're new, I'd strongly urge you stick to the guide as closely as possible, deviations are what get you in trouble03:52
OldTexassudo apt-get oinstall "linux-firmware-nonfree"  <---  E: invalid operation oinstall  ... ah, just install03:52
chocolatemousseOldTexas, yup03:52
gRAVIty2Error: The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly. Error details - They are in continuation 1) http://imagebin.org/270644 2http://imagebin.org/270645 3http://imagebin.org/27064603:53
gRAVIty2can you tell me what is happening? and what should I do about it.03:53
OldTexaschocolatemousse,  it installed, worth a reboot doncha reckon?03:53
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  the option is 'noauto' as in 'dont auto mount at boot time'03:53
chocolatemousseOldTexas, not necessary03:53
chocolatemousseOldTexas, if you wanna run 'uname -r' for me if its 3 or greater no need03:54
chocolatemousseOldTexas, can't hurt if you want to keep things simple though03:54
chocolatemousse:)03:54
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin: example fstab line ----->    UUID=19C853E9785E19AE     /media/VideoShare3000    ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8,noauto   0   003:55
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: okay i figured it out i belive03:55
Psil0Cybinit works03:55
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: so now what can i try to be able to share my hard drive with my pi :(03:55
chocolatemousseOldTexas, I'm only going to mention this as its relevant to any confusion you may be having - I cannot see what TsarObomba is saying, keep that in mind03:55
Psil0Cybinsorry to keep hounding you :( but i need ur help03:55
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  samba, or a unpn/dlna server03:55
gRAVIty2anybody has fundaes on compiz?03:56
Psil0Cybinokay well i tried samba but it seems to have problems with my hard drive, and being able to access it03:56
chocolatemousseOldTexas, if you like his support better, its probably better to just listen to one person at a time, I won't be offended :)03:56
Psil0Cybinwhen i did try and stream a movie03:56
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  if samba was not able to share the drive. it may be it needed differnt options in fstab. I cant get to my other file server to see how i mounted my NTFS drive for it so be shared by samba03:56
OldTexasK....  :)  That's like havin' two backseaty drivers that are deaf.  :)03:56
chocolatemousseHehe yah03:56
Psil0CybinOkay03:56
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  most likely the issues are with HOW the drive is mounted.  that fstab line may beed to be set to allow everyone full access03:57
Psil0Cybinoh03:57
Psil0Cybinsorry im new :P see im learning03:57
Psil0Cybinjust hard work aha03:57
TsarObombaof course, im not saying anythiing, cause im busy researching my own issues with bache03:57
chocolatemousseOldTexas, he is going to give you the more technical route though, so if you don't mind the terminal commands its probably ok advice03:57
TsarObombaOldTexas: good luck :)03:57
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  if you  can see the vidoe files now.. and install xbmc on the laptop. THAT can share  the files to the other xbmc player on the network03:57
gRAVIty2chocolatemousse: I have a trouble with compiz. can you look ait it?03:57
Psil0Cybinoh03:58
Psil0Cybini can instal xbmc?03:58
Psil0Cybinon my computer03:58
OldTexasI need a SSID03:58
Psil0Cybinand share it that way?03:58
chocolatemousseOldTexas, ok, do you know what the name of your wireless network is?03:58
OldTexasDid, one sec03:58
chocolatemousseThat'll be your SSID03:59
chocolatemousseusually you can find it on the bottom of the router03:59
TsarObombaawesome looks like tyhat fuxed his chip03:59
chocolatemousseOldTexas, if you do have the wifi drivers installed now everything should just show up in the wifi dropdown03:59
TsarObombathat fixed*03:59
OldTexasI waddn;'t that smart hen I set it up...03:59
chocolatemousseOldTexas, not knowledgeable, but smart, and level headed :)04:00
lotuspsychjemorning to all04:00
chocolatemousselotuspsychje, morning04:00
gRAVIty2I have this compiz error: The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly. Can someone help?04:00
OldTexasLemme do a reboot, won;t take but a sec...04:01
lotuspsychjechocolatemousse: tnx mate!04:01
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: you know what i cannot figure out04:02
Psil0Cybinafter all my tinkering right now my wlan0 is not acting right04:02
Psil0Cybinthat one laptop i was doing this stuff on cannot connect to the net, like it does04:02
Psil0Cybinbut then it times out04:02
gRAVIty2lotuspsychje: do u have fundaes on compiz?04:02
Psil0Cybinthen it does again and times out04:02
Psil0Cybinbut my other netbook is connected perfectly fine04:02
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  could be some weird wireless driver issue.04:02
lotuspsychje!info fundaes04:02
ubottuPackage fundaes does not exist in raring04:02
lotuspsychjegRAVIty2: never heard of iot, what does it do?04:03
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: samba woudnt have done it right04:03
Psil0Cybinbecause it was working before04:03
Psil0Cybinperfectly fine04:03
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  xbmc can work as a dlna/upnp server.04:03
Dr_Willissamba is a service. it wouldent affect your networking04:03
gRAVIty2lol :) i have a problem with compiz04:03
lotuspsychje!details | gRAVIty204:03
ubottugRAVIty2: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."04:03
chocolatemousse!ask | gRAVIty204:04
ubottugRAVIty2: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:04
gRAVIty2Error: The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly. Error details - They are in continuation   1) http://imagebin.org/270644   2) http://imagebin.org/270645    3) http://imagebin.org/27064604:04
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: i dunno how to use dlna or upnp04:04
chocolatemoussegRAVIty2, so does it run for you at all?04:04
Psil0Cybini might just go back to burning dvds lol never knew xbmc could be sooooooooooo hard04:05
Psil0Cybinjust to share a hard drive04:05
Psil0Cybinlmaoooo04:05
chocolatemoussegRAVIty2, or is it just crashing randomly?04:05
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  install one of the many dlna/upnp servers. configure it.. run it. ;)04:05
gRAVIty2it does. It kind of restarts it self.04:05
gRAVIty2chocolatemouse: yes it is just crashing randomly04:05
chocolatemoussegRAVIty2, are you sending the bug reports?04:05
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  as i said. If you run xbmcv on the pc. IT can share to the other pcs04:05
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  my Pi's share to each other that way04:05
chocolatemoussegRAVIty2, you can just 'ignore future problems'04:05
gRAVIty2chocolatemousse: I am sending reports04:05
chocolatemousselooks like as well04:05
chocolatemoussegRAVIty2, if you can live with the crashes04:05
chocolatemoussegRAVIty2, if not you can look at updating your drivers04:06
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  Or install PLEX on the pc. and use the raspberry pi-plex disrto and it turns the pi into an instant video player from the plex server04:06
chocolatemoussegRAVIty2, what's your card?04:06
gRAVIty2how do i find the card details? It is a laptop x200 tablet. Can you tell me the command to find out the card?04:06
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  for a simpler test case. you could make a samba shar of your videos direcvtory in your home and see if the pi can find it.04:06
chocolatemoussegRAVIty2, otherwise you'll likely have to wait for the devs to fix it04:06
chocolatemoussegRAVIty2, lspci04:07
gRAVIty200:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)04:07
gRAVIty200:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)04:07
lotuspsychjegRAVIty2: maybe this can help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196600204:08
chocolatemoussegRAVIty2, you'll wanna check your Intel Graphics Card drivers - bad news, the seem to be a bit iffy (other people have had problems)04:08
chocolatemoussethey*04:08
chocolatemoussegRAVIty2, anyways good luck, I gotta bow out, getting tired and allergies are really getting to me.04:09
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: i actually cannot figure out why my wifi doesnt work on my HP that i tried to install the samba on04:09
gRAVIty2thanks for your time.Good night04:09
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: it did just an hr ago04:09
chocolatemoussegRAVIty2, you're welcome :) Night04:09
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: it says its connected to network but gets no internet but my net is working fine04:09
OldTexasdang04:09
Dr_WillisPsil0Cybin:  see if ifconfig shows an ip# and see if you can ping  the router.  basic networking tests ;)04:10
Psil0CybinDr_Willis: Lmaooo it started working on its own, something is off tonight04:11
Psil0Cybinlike first with the samba not a recognized service04:11
Psil0Cybinand now this04:11
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morenooo25alguien habla español por favoor04:15
OldTexasS. ero soy nuevo tambien :(04:15
reisio#ubuntu-es04:16
OldTexasS. pero soy nuevo tambien :(04:16
morenooo25yo tb04:16
morenooo25no se donde toy metido04:16
Dr_Willis!es04:16
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.04:16
OldTexasbuena suerte04:16
morenooo25·<{ubottu}>· muchas gracias04:17
morenooo25ya toy alli04:17
OldTexassolo escribe /join #ubuntu-es y toca enter04:17
OldTexascool04:18
morenooo25pero de q pais04:18
morenooo25es este chat04:18
morenooo25??04:18
OldTexasallah o aqui?04:18
OldTexasUnicamenta problemas del Ubuntu04:18
morenooo25como04:18
morenooo25digo en general este chat de q pais04:19
tozenguys use the proper channel please04:19
OldTexasCreo esados unidos, pero con ingles puede ser del toda el mundo no04:20
lotuspsychje!es | OldTexas04:20
ubottuOldTexas: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.04:20
morenooo25ya eso creo04:20
lotuspsychje!english04:20
ubottuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList04:20
OldTexassorry. It's that dang south Texas accent :)04:20
tozen!es | morenooo2304:21
ubottumorenooo23: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.04:21
tozen!es | morenooo2504:21
ubottumorenooo25: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.04:21
OldTexasGot a mite bit a lag on that bot there :)04:22
tony___Can Ubuntu 12.04 use the newest mainline Linux kernel?04:24
OldTexasCan, I jes upgraded mine.04:24
tony___OldTexas: How to do so?04:24
OldTexasRegular update deal in Ubuntu did it for me.  You workin' command line or in a GUI04:25
Dr_Willis!mainline04:25
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds04:25
tony___OldTexas: I can work in both. But usual apt-get only updates me to 3.2.xx04:26
OldTexasTher ya go...04:26
OldTexasThast's the latest stable ain;t it?04:26
m113tCan anyone identify with a bug that I have, in the sense that the "graphical boot screen" is not loading? Its like a command line but still has a purple background.04:27
tony___OldTexas: But on Kernel.org it says the latest is 3.11... :(04:27
tozentony___: 12.04.3 LTS uses last one04:27
OldTexasGot me, mine updates jes a couple a days ago... lemme see if i can find the ver04:28
tony___tozen: But I'm on 12.04.204:28
tony___tozen: Any way to upgrade to 12.04.3?04:28
tozentony___: whay not?04:29
tozen*why04:29
OldTexasI got kernal  3.2.0-53-generic-pae04:29
tony___OldTexas: Me too...04:29
tony___tozen: 12.04.3 should be newer, right?04:29
tozentony___: yes 3.804:29
tozentony___: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade04:30
OldTexas`12.04.3 is jes newer than the first 12.04 LTS, it;'s jes LTS fixes04:30
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tony___OldTexas: Got it04:31
OldTexasty tozen04:32
OldTexasculpepper04:32
OldTexasoops04:32
tozenOldTexas: ??04:32
OldTexasI jes rn that update command to check.  :)04:33
OldTexasI'm good...  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.04:33
tozenOldTexas: check your update-manager settings and checkboxes, pal04:34
James_EppIs there going to be a release of Ubuntu TV similar to that of XBMCbuntu anytime soon? I'd love to switch over my current xbmc experience to an ubuntu one. I feel as if xbmc is just a bit too cluttered for use in my family where the parents are not exactly computer literate, and one is legally blind whom cannot use the current xbmc setup if his life depended on it.04:36
OldTexasWill do04:36
m113tAnyone know of a Linux equivalent to Download Meter (DU Meter) on windows??04:37
James_Eppm113t: System Monitor has basic information under the resources tab, but I am not 100% sure about a specific program. I'm sure it exists if you search for something along the lines of network monitor or bandwidth in the software center.04:37
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tozenm113t: conky?04:38
m113tThanks James_Epp/tozen04:38
tozenm113t: ur welcome04:39
OldTexastozen looks right04:39
James_Eppm113t: KNemo doesn't look terrible. IDK about how much more detail it provides, however.04:39
xtrizi have setup file sharing service enabled, which  authentication mechanism  i can set to restrict uses to download the files ?04:40
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lotuspsychje!info indicator-multiload | m113t04:43
ubottum113t: indicator-multiload (source: indicator-multiload): Graphical system load indicator for CPU, ram, etc.. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 179 kB, installed size 1398 kB04:43
lotuspsychjem113t: it records sent/received network data aswell04:43
crocketI use proprietary nvidia driver, and after installing steam, I can't log in via the login manager.04:44
m113tfantastic. This channel is incredibly helpful04:44
crocketI think steam messed the driver.04:44
crocketHow can I restore it?04:44
m113tCan I ask another question lotus/ubottu?04:44
lotuspsychjem113t: sure shoot mate04:44
m113tI installed AMD catalyst thinking that it would make my gfx better (over unbuntu's stock standard drivers) and then unity didn't boot after that...04:45
m113tSo i uninstalled it, and everythings working again... except the actual loading screen is in text instead of graphics?04:45
m113tIts only a cosmetic annoyance, but an annoyance none the less..04:45
lotuspsychjem113t: graphics card chipset and ubuntu version?04:46
m113tHow do i find that out?04:46
m113twhat are the terminal commands sorry04:46
m113tAMD E2-1800 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics × 2  & ubuntu running 13.1004:47
lotuspsychje!13.10 | m113t04:47
ubottum113t: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+104:47
lotuspsychjem113t: in this channel only support for versions in topic mate04:47
m113tThanks04:47
m113tI'll head to +104:47
lotuspsychjem113t: i could recommend you installing 13.04 clean mate04:48
m113tI know this sounds ridiclous, but how would I go about doing that? I haven't reformatted nix before...04:49
m113tWould i just run the usb installer i installed it from?04:49
lotuspsychjem113t: make a startup usb from 13.04 ubuntu iso yes04:49
lotuspsychjem113t: then reformat your pc, clean use the whole drive for 13.0404:50
m113tthanks i'll go from there04:51
m113tlotus: can you mount an iso in ubuntu and go from there?04:52
lotuspsychje!yay | m113t04:52
ubottum113t: Glad you made it! :-)04:52
lotuspsychjem113t: ubuntu got an inside usb startup creator, use that one04:52
crocketI can't login via lightdm after installing steam. I think steam messed with mesa.04:52
crocketWhat do I do?04:52
crocketShould I reinstall ubuntu?04:55
lotuspsychjecrocket: any errors in logs somewhere?04:57
crocketlotuspsychje: I checked Xorg.0.log, but I couldn't find any significant errors.04:58
lotuspsychjecrocket: maybe try failsafeX from grub recovery?04:58
lotuspsychjecrocket: or load a previous kernel from grub list04:59
crocketlotuspsychje: There are no pervious kernels.04:59
crocketIt's not a kernel issue.04:59
crocketAnd grub doesn't have a failsafe entry.04:59
lotuspsychjecrocket: or do a lightdm restart04:59
Dr_Williscrocket:   the lightdm login screen works?04:59
crocketlightdm restart didn't help.04:59
crocketDr_Willis: I could see lightdm login screen.04:59
Dr_Williscrocket:  try making a new user from the console. see if they can login at lightdm05:00
Dr_Willis'sudo adduser billgates'05:00
Dr_Willisalso see if your user can login at the console. ;) that should stillwork. heh.05:00
crocketDr_Willis: I couldn't log in a guest account.05:00
crocketI was repelled back to lightdm.05:00
Dr_WillisLogin at the CONSOLE - see if that works05:00
Dr_Willisalt-ctrl-f1 through f6 = consoles05:01
crocketDr_Willis: That works05:01
crocketDr_Willis: I think it's mesa or video driver problem.05:01
Dr_Willisat the console. make a new user. 'sudo adduser billgates'05:01
crocketsteam messed with those.05:01
Dr_Willissee if that user fails - if so - then that would point to a system issue05:01
Dr_Willisits possible its a 3d driver/gfx issue with unity/compiz. you could install a lighter desktop that dosent use compiz. as a temp fix.05:02
Dr_Willisif the new user DOES work - that points to a setting issue with the problem user05:02
m113tWhats a lighter desktop that still allows you to keep the Unity layout??05:02
kostkoncrocket, did you add the xorg-edgers ppa?05:03
Dr_Willism113t:  you could use most any window manager and a dock on the left hand side.05:03
Atrumxwhat's the issue? window manager won't start?05:03
m113tDr_Willis: I realize that, but I think unity makes linux quite user friendly...05:03
Dr_Willism113t:  if you want unity - you use unity05:03
Dr_Willisif you want a launcher on th eleft thats not unity. setup a dock. or gnome-shell05:04
m113tFair enough, thanks Dr_Willis05:04
Dr_Willis!dock05:04
ubottuUbuntu includes several dock-like navigation bars. Some options are: avant-window-navigator, cairo-dock, docky (formerly part of gnome-do), stalonetray, simdock, kdocker, kooldock.05:04
Dr_Willisbbl05:04
crocketDr_Willis: I created a new user and tried to log in with it, but I was repelled back to lightdm.05:04
crocketkostkon: no05:05
kostkoncrocket, ok05:05
m113t!audio05:07
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.05:07
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Fekallok..I am getting this.. 1. mountall: fsck /boot [377] terminated with status 1 2. mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/6c7ea####### does not exist 3. mountall:/boot [1029] terminated with staus 32 4. mountall: filesystem could not be mounted /boot an error occured while mounting boot05:11
Guest92123hello, I want to change how somthing looks in ubuntu. I do not know what it is called. It is a menu, basically it is when you click the power button you get this gray menu with things like "system settings", "Displays", "Startup Applications"... ect, I want to change it so that the menu is transparent05:11
Guest92123any ideas on how to do this?05:11
Fekall5. keys:press s to skip mounting or M to manual recovery05:11
Fekallany ideas?05:12
slick0_i want an ubuntu iphone05:12
slick0_the orange one05:13
Guest92123DNE05:13
slick0_or is that FF phone05:13
Guest92123?05:13
slick0_DNE?05:13
Guest92123 I want to change how somthing looks in ubuntu. I do not know what it is called. It is a menu, basically it is when you click the power button you get this gray menu with things like "system settings", "Displays", "Startup Applications"... ect, I want to change it so that the menu is transparent. Any ideas?05:14
pvizcayHi! I'm trying to set up a very simple static site with nginx. When I do "wget localhost" from inside the server, index.html gets served.  When I do it from outside, I get "Connection refused". Apart from the fact that I was serving content before nginx and I knew the port was05:14
Guest92123Does not exist.05:14
pvizcay open, I did "sudo iptables -F"just to be sure. My config file is very simple just a "listen 80;" and a root directive. Ansy suggestions?05:14
slick0_how do i shit the apps bar to the left of the screen?05:14
slick0_shift*05:14
pvizcayI also did "sudo ufw disable". Ubuntu 12.04.05:14
slick0_how do i shift the apps bar to the left of the screen?05:15
slick0_do i need to recompile unity?05:15
Guest92123where is it currently?05:15
slick0_i meant to the right side05:15
Guest92123I think I have seen it done05:16
slick0_muslimim edition?05:16
Guest92123not sure though, have you tryed to google it yet?05:16
slick0_i use duckgo05:16
m113tlol05:17
Guest92123that does not answer my question05:17
m113thave you tried to duckgo it, Guest 92123? lmao05:17
Guest92123haha no05:17
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Guest92123I want to change how somthing looks in ubuntu. I do not know what it is called. It is a menu, basically it is when you click the power button you get this gray menu with things like "system settings", "Displays", "Startup Applications"... ect, I want to change it so that the menu is transparent. Any ideas?05:19
Coolothello guys! newbie here with ubuntu. my issue is i have 4 partitions with win7 then i installed ubuntu 12.04 on a separate hard drive. when i am on ubuntu it can't detect one of the 4 partitions. it is only showing 3. any ideas guys?05:20
mysteriousdarrenCoolot: does gparted recognize the other partition?05:22
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wilee-nileeCoolot, Run sudo fdisk -l in ubuntu and pastebin it.05:22
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Coolotwill try it guys.... will just switch OS to ubuntu i am currently with win705:23
Coolotbrb05:23
TeflonDogI have a gigabyte Brix (so no CD/DVD drives) running ubuntu 13.04. i want to uninstall it and install win8 from the usb. i enter bios to select boot but only my SSD shows up. no option to boot from USB. how can i boot from usb?05:24
reisioTeflonDog: is there a bootable usb image even connected?05:25
TeflonDogyes, i believe so. i created a win8 boot usb from an iso and it is plugged in.05:26
TeflonDogi used that win7 usb boot creator program05:27
crocketdamn it. I'm just reinstalling ubuntu.05:28
crocketlinux hardware support still sucks.05:28
xmetalback05:29
Seven_Six_Twothat's not true. more hardware is supported with linux05:29
xmetaldepends on your hardware and willingness to try to get it to work, if you ask me05:29
xmetalyears ago i had a pain with RH Linux and hardware ... i almost never have to manually install anything with modern distros05:30
xmetal:)05:30
UserErrorxmetal, technically you could make a massive kernel to support all hardware05:31
UserErrorand download all the bins05:32
Dr_Willisi definatly have a lot of hardwre that windows7+ no longer supports05:32
UserErrorand still would weigh less than WinSxS05:32
Dr_WillisTeflonDog:  id see if a linux boot usb shows up. Its possible you made the windows usb wrongly05:33
xmetalwell assuming usb drive was created correctly ... there is one option i tried on my old laptop (with failing hardware anyway) that ... was sort of buggy to be honest05:35
xmetal(old laptop had no usb support, but this allowed me to do so)05:35
UserErrorDoes anyone know what the actual direct Xorg (non-meta, or just add meta fillers after) packages required for ubuntu are for the intel HD platform?05:35
xmetaldang ... i forgot the name05:35
xmetalbrb05:35
xmetalstarts with a P i think and it is a bootloader that loads before grub if i am not mistake05:36
TeflonDogok. i guess i can make another ubuntu boot usb and try that. but in the bios it only shows Crucial SSD ... it won't show the usb drive unless there is a bootable file on it?05:36
coolothello guys i'm back. i can see /dev/sda1-405:36
coolotand /dev/sdb1-10 for my ubuntu05:36
xmetalPlop Boot Manager05:37
xmetalthats it05:37
xmetali knew it had a funny sounding name05:37
xmetallol05:37
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TeflonDogplop05:42
Fekallok..I am getting this.. 1. mountall: fsck /boot [377] terminated with status 1 2. mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/6c7ea####### does not exist 3. mountall:/boot [1029] terminated with staus 32 4. mountall: filesystem could not be mounted /boot an error occured while mounting boot05:44
Fekall5. keys:press s to skip mounting or M to manual recovery05:44
Fekallany ideas?05:44
TeflonDogthanks for the tips. cheers05:44
jackhello der...05:46
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Guest14851nick jack05:46
Guest14851hello05:46
Guest14851hello05:47
SchrodingersScatGuest14851: hello05:47
Guest14851my bluetooth is not working ,,,,,, m using ubuntu 12.04 ..... i'v installed bluetooh manager... bt still its not working05:47
SchrodingersScatGuest14851: that's a dark road to travel down sometimes.05:48
Dr_Willisi was thinking someone was using bluezman or somthing the other day to get bt going05:48
Guest14851wt to do yaar..05:48
Dr_Willisaskubuntu.com may have some guides on doing it05:48
Dr_WillisFekall:  possibally your uuid has changed for the device. or your fstab got altered05:49
Guest14851Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub05:49
Guest14851Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub05:49
Guest14851Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub05:49
Guest14851Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub05:49
Guest14851Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub05:49
Guest14851Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub05:49
FloodBot1Guest14851: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:49
FekallDr_Willis...is there an easy fix for that...I am really linux challenged05:52
FekallI did read something about booting using the disk and then changing some directories or something to that effect05:52
Dr_WillisFekall:  check your /etc/fstab and compare it to the UUID of your /boot/ partition.05:54
Dr_Williss- should skip it and bgoot the system up. but its odd that its /boot/05:54
Dr_Willisunless you setup a seperate /boot/ partition05:54
Fekalldont think so05:55
FekallI just followed the prompts05:55
Fekallwhen loading05:55
FekallI did run a restore from the disk once05:55
Dr_Willissomthing is weird then if you dd not specifically create a /boot/ partition05:55
Dwoodhey guys05:55
Fekalland reloaded the grub05:55
Fekallmight have done some damage then05:55
DwoodRight quick, i need some tips, I assume this is a simple fix but not sure05:56
DwoodSo I start ubuntu and my mouse (utechsmart 8200dpa mouse)05:56
Dwooddoes not work05:56
Fekallok Dr_Willis...I will check that stuff out..thanks05:57
DwoodWhere can i look to discover possible solutions05:57
DwoodA google on the subject turned up answers for touchpads and did nothing to alleviate the problem05:57
xmetalback again05:57
Dr_WillisDwood:  so thats a normal usb mouse?05:58
Dwoodessentially.05:58
coolothello guys newbie here... i have 4 partitions i created with win7 and i installed ubuntu in a separate hard drive. the thing is ubuntu is only seeing 3 partitions drives but when i do fdisk -l i am seeing 4 of them. any advise guys.05:59
DwoodIt's got a couple of extra features but nothing extraordinary imho05:59
DwoodIt's not even wireless05:59
DwoodThe mouse is receiving power05:59
DwoodThe lights are on05:59
DwoodBut the os isn't recognizing movement06:00
Dwoodor clicks06:00
Dwoodor anything else for that matter06:00
Dwoodlol06:00
Seven_Six_Twocoolot, are they all formatted?06:01
xmetalhmm @ coolot06:01
Dwoodim running ubuntu 5.1006:03
crocketDwood: wow06:03
Dwoodjk lol06:03
Base-DevDwood, that is not supported anymore.06:04
Dwoodi'm kidding06:04
Dwood100%06:04
Seven_Six_TwoDwood, no, no...*kidding* is not supported anymore!06:04
Base-Dev!kidding | Dwood06:05
ubottuDwood: You might think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users who follow your advice or irritate people who attempt to answer your question.06:05
xmetalso there are 4 (i am guessing NTFS) parititons and ubuntu installed on another drive06:06
Dwood:(06:06
Seven_Six_Twoxmetal, can you see them all with gnome-disks06:06
xmetallol i am not the one asking06:07
xmetal(trying to help the one asking, here)06:07
Seven_Six_Twooops...sorry. coolot, are you there?06:07
SchrodingersScatSeven_Six_Two: coolot was asking06:07
DwoodI'm going to upgrade my os and see if that works. I haven't run this os for 2 years, it seems the LTS was out last April06:07
xmetalits only seeing 3 of the 4 NTFS paritions?06:07
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DwoodI'm not holding my breath for it, b/c Win 7 supported it with no updates needed06:08
Dwood(having not been run for 2 years neither)06:08
Dwood1 .5 hrs left, i'm going to bed. cya06:09
xmetaluh ... what was the issue, guys?06:10
xmetallol06:10
xmetaloops06:10
xmetalgot users confused06:10
xmetallol06:10
ravenHey everyone. Is this the best place to ask about LightDM issues?06:14
drcasper_hi guys06:15
ravensup drcasper_06:15
slick0_http://ubuntusatanic.org/wallpapers.php best ubuntu06:15
aeon-ltdraven: it is if you're on ubuntu06:15
UserErrorI think it's pretty stupid they couldn't just release a "conversion" bash script06:16
UserErrorfor ubuntu06:16
UserErrorinstead of an entire iso06:16
UserErrorObviously satan isn't edgy enough06:16
drcasper_i currently opened an account for ubuntu 12.10 VPS to host a mail server, but i can't quite get remote desktop to work with tightvnc.. i'm wondering what the best way (program) would be to remote into an ubuntu desktop (kind of like RDP on windows ) ..06:16
ravenIm on ElementaryOS which is a derivative of Ubuntu, but ive got the same issue in Ubuntu itself too. The issue is, i found a thread ages ago on askubuntu.com i believe it was, where i could set the LightDM login screen as the lock scree as well (so instead of hitting switch user, it would automatically take me to the login) Does anyone know how to do this as i cannot find it?06:16
slick0_what are you doing here? are stalking me?06:16
ravendrcasper_ i feel your pain, i run Ubuntu Server via Colocation and found that VNC was rediculous to login. I found that installing VNC server and then using TIghtVNC was the best way for me.06:17
UserErrorraven, click the power button06:17
UserErrortop right06:17
UserErrorthere is also a hotkey06:17
UserErrorlisted on their site06:18
aeon-ltdUserError: they could, they're called meta-packages. but that would be up to the devs not canonical or the core ubuntu team06:18
PRINCESS_FLUFFhi, do you guys get Ubuntu to work well in a virtualbox VM easily? It crashes all the time for me06:18
UserErrorPRINCESS, use Lubuntu in a VM06:18
aeon-ltdPRINCESS_FLUFF: well you need to find the cause first06:18
drcasper_ah man. ok i was hoping there was something better.. i'm seeing something called NX06:18
slick0_No Execute?06:19
ravenUserError, what exactly to you mean by Click the Power Button, i know if i click that and choose LOCK it will take me to the lock screen... I am more looking at how i can get it to take me to the login screen after sleep.06:19
slick0_mint give me my nick back06:19
aeon-ltdraven: are you sure it just wasn't a customized password unlock screen not a login?06:19
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UserErrorraven, that is in the settings06:20
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stinktDr_Willis: are you around06:20
Dr_Willisin and out. ;)06:20
aeon-ltdthe doc is in da house!06:20
UserErrorthat is also stock behavior06:20
stinktok..its fekall06:20
UserErrorafter a certain amoutn of time06:20
stinktI looked at my fstab06:20
ravenaeon-ltd. Well im currently dual booting ElementaryOS and ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and they both take me to the simplified login page when it comes out of sleep. I did fine a thread before that showed me how to set it that it takes me to the "Switch User" page, but i cant find tat anymore.06:20
UserErrorraven06:21
stinktor similar06:21
UserErrori already told u06:21
UserErrorthe solution06:21
stinktand the UUID06:21
slick0_why should i buy the new iphone if i can just buy new cover in whatever colours i want06:21
slick0_?06:21
UserErrori've been using luna since the first git06:21
stinktfile:///run/udev/links/disk\x2fby-uuid\x2f6c7ea282-da0d-499f-9030-6da098d9f4c606:21
UserErroron one of my boxes06:21
UserErrorright after jupiter06:21
stinktI dont know what to change it too06:21
xmetalwrong channel06:21
stinktor what to chang06:21
stinkte06:21
kostkonslick0_ is a bot...06:21
UserErroreos has their own chat06:21
UserErrorgo there06:21
UserErrori already told u06:21
Dr_Willisstinkt:  look at 'sudo blkid' output to show your partions uuid's06:21
xmetalah ok06:22
ravenOkay. I had the same issue in Ubuntu 12.04 stock which is why i thought to ask here first :) Thanks UserError :)06:22
slick0_some times you need to run x as root06:22
stinktkk.../dev/mapper/spawnranch--vg-root: UUID="69683874-43b0-477d-8d08-11be918fe299" TYPE="ext4"06:22
stinktis that what I am looking for?06:22
Dr_Willisslick0_:  i cant recall needind to do that in the last 7+ years06:23
Dr_Willisstinkt:  and what partion is the one with that uuid? /boot/ ? / ? or what06:23
wylde /join #crunchbang06:24
stinktk..looking now06:24
wyldewhoops06:24
stinktthis  one .../dev/sda1: UUID="6c7ea282-da0d-499f-9030-6da098d9f4c6" TYPE="ext2"06:24
slick0_do you know what distro MS recomends to replace XP ?06:25
Dr_Willisstinkt:  now look at the /etc/fstab file and see if that sda1 is supposed to be / or /boot   because  that uuid does not match what you showed eralier..06:25
Dr_Willisstinkt:  you may want to install the pastebinit command and 'sudo blkid | pastebinit'  and 'mount | pastebinit'  and 'pastebinit /etc/fstab' for the people in here to look at06:26
aeon-ltdslick0_: for what purpose?06:26
aeon-ltdslick0_: 7 + 8 are both supported and will be for some time06:26
stinktk06:26
slick0_for thr poupose if replacing Xp06:27
coolotSeven_Six_Two : yes sir they are all in NTFS06:27
coolotxmetal : yes sir?06:27
slick0_of*06:27
aeon-ltdslick0_: what ever you want, if you asked microsoft they'd probably push 806:27
coolotSeven_Six_Two : yes sir they are all formatted to ntfs06:28
coolotsorry for the late reply. i am practicing command lines06:28
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xmetali forgot what the question/issue was06:29
coolotxmetal : i have 4 partitions i created with win7 and i installed ubuntu in a separate hard drive. the thing is ubuntu is only seeing 3 partitions drives but when i do fdisk -l i am seeing 4 of them. any advise guys.06:30
Dr_Williscoolot:  a seperate hard drive? whts the exact fdisk -l command you are using?  you  are seeing both ahrd drives?06:33
aeon-ltdcoolot: explain the ubuntu is seeing part?06:33
drcasper_guys.. what gui should i install on a server to keep it light?06:33
crocketWhen I instruct ubuntu to shut down, it keeps saying "soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 22s! umount"06:33
crocketWhy does it keep locking up?06:33
aeon-ltddrcasper: openbox?06:33
drcasper_xfce vs gnome vs kde06:34
aeon-ltdcrocket: does a process need to end properly before shutdown?06:34
drcasper_i need a gui because i'm a noob at linux :/06:34
wyldedrcasper_: lxde?06:34
Dr_Willisdrcasper_:  why do youneed a gui on a server? You can install just a window manager. like jwm. Lubuntu would be the lightest desktop06:34
coolotDisk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes06:34
coolot255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors06:34
coolotUnits = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes06:34
aeon-ltddrcasper: only xfce is light out of those 3 (relatively)06:34
coolotSector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes06:34
coolotI/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes06:34
FloodBot1coolot: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:34
coolotDisk identifier: 0x498783f606:34
crocketaeon-ltd: yes06:34
Dr_Willisdrcasper_:  you should have installed a desktop edition then. not a server06:35
drcasper_i didnt have a choice. i got a VPS that came with 12.1006:35
aeon-ltdcrocket: then you should look into that process and why it has a long shutdown time06:35
crocketaeon-ltd: That's what I have been doing.06:36
UserErroraeon, use e1706:36
UserErrorit is modular06:36
aeon-ltdi'm not the one that needs help06:36
UserErrorit has less ram usage than LXDE on stock install06:36
UserErroroh06:36
drcasper_Dr_Willis: thank you for your imput..there is not much i need to do with that machine.. i just want to setup a mail server and a web server, but i think i would need some graphical interface to feel more comfortable.. which one would you recomend? i have 50gb in that box and my site is going to be a static page..06:36
UserErrorsorry i'm drunkk06:36
Dr_Willisdrcasper_:  and how to you plan on using this desktop youinstall on the vps?06:37
drcasper_..so i'm not gonna be using a lot of space06:37
aeon-ltdusererror indeed06:37
drcasper_i can remote into this machine via freenx or tightvnc ?06:37
Dr_Willisdrcasper_:  you dont really need any desktop. a simple window manager will do06:37
Dr_Willisand you can use x forwarding/ssh06:37
Artemis3drcasper, https://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/a-memory-comparison-of-light-linux-desktops/06:37
crocketubuntu 13.04 is buggy06:37
xmetali wouldn't suggest e17 for newbies to linux06:38
aeon-ltdcoolot: stop it06:38
crocketubuntu 13.04 can't even shut itself down.06:38
xmetalnot hard, but there are better DE's if you ask me06:38
UserErroromg art06:38
UserErrori have been looking for that blog06:38
UserErrorfor weeks06:38
UserErrori saw it like a month ago, thank you06:38
crocketI'm sure ubuntu is a great OS, and its inherent vaule doesn't go away just because of a single weird bug, but I don't have time to investigate the bug, and the bug is too annoying!!!06:38
Artemis3UserError, yw06:39
drcasper_Dr_Willis: ok.. i'll take that route.. which is your windows manager of choice if i may ask ?06:39
slick0_if you cant sell it it bug it06:39
wyldecrocket: then I'd suggest using the LTS version06:39
crocketwylde: It's the kernel version that's wrong.06:40
Dr_Willisdrcasper_:  any of them will do the basic jobs.  jwm is the tinyiest one i belive06:40
amarakakas06:40
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crocketwylde: I'm not sure if LTS would do.06:40
drcasper_like i said, space is not really a proble,06:40
Guest66567yes06:40
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wyldecrocket: why wouldn't it?06:41
Dr_Willisdrcasper_:  install all the main desktops then.  ;) it depends on how you plan on using the system more then anything else06:41
crocketwylde: What about kernel upgrade?06:41
crocketI need the mainline kernel.06:41
Dr_Willis!pastebinit | coolot06:41
abanghow to play Fruty loop 9 in ubuntu 10.04 ? help me :(06:42
Dr_Willis!pastebin | coolot06:42
Dr_Willisabang:  use wine for windows apps.06:42
crocketWhat is the mainline kernel?06:42
Dr_Willis!mainline06:42
Dr_WillisPoor bot is lagged. ;(06:42
abangdone but, the sound is not active06:42
wyldeDr_Willis: I think ubottu is offline06:43
crocketDr_Willis: Can I add mainline PPA to synaptic?06:43
Ari-Yangcrocket, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/06:43
Dr_Williscrocket:  theres mainline kernel ppas06:44
crocketMAN!06:45
crocketnvidia proprietary driver just puts virtual terminal back into the stone age.06:46
drcasper_ok im thinking fluxbox for my vps should be good..06:46
guest____How do I access the irssi config file?06:48
guest____I cannot find the irssi config file.06:48
wilee-nileeguest____, looked in .config it's a cli otherwise never used it myself.06:49
guest____cli?06:49
wilee-nileecommand line interface the terminal06:50
m113tAnyone here know how to get a freenode IP cloak?06:50
Dr_Willisguest____:  if you plan on using irssi. you really should have some command line skills also06:50
wilee-nileeguest____, open home hit ctrl-h and look in .config not sure that is what you want though06:50
anonymous_any one here to teach me how to work anonymous06:50
Dr_Willisguest____:  it should be in ~/.irssi   anbd the irssi docs/homepage has tutorials06:50
Dr_Willis!cloak | anonymous_06:51
stinktok Dr_Willis here is what I got06:51
Dr_Willisanonymous_:  ask in #freenode for a cloak06:51
stinkthttp://pastebin.com/qz5ctrEy06:51
stinkthttp://pastebin.com/BxMLiGgY06:51
stinkthttp://pastebin.com/FgqUWkTg06:51
guest____<wilee-nilee> Thanks, that worked for me!06:53
wilee-nileeguest____, cool06:53
AshvaHi, I have installed ubuntu 12.04 on vaio Z series ultra thin, Does any one know how can I install driver for it's fingerprint?06:53
Dr_Willisstinkt:  you seem to be using LVM - thats somthing i never use.06:54
stinktoh..damn06:54
ravenAShva, what is the exact model?06:54
stinktwell then...maybe a reinstall is called for then06:54
stinktdammit.06:54
Dr_Willisstinkt:  and are  you using Mint? If so you should be in the Mint support channels06:54
stinktno06:54
ravenAshva, is this the Z13 ultraThin?06:54
Dr_Willisubuntu dosent use lvm by default06:54
stinktI had to boot off of this disk06:55
Ashvaraven: thanks for reply, I'm not really sure06:55
crocketShould I execute "add-apt-repository http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/" to register mainline kernel ppa to my system?06:55
stinktI am running ubuntu server 13.0406:55
Ashvaraven: let me check06:55
ravenThere should be a model somewhere on the laptop, on a sticker.06:55
auronandacecrocket: if thats what you want (be aware we can't support ppas here)06:56
crocketI want to know how to add a ppa properly06:56
auronandace!ppa | crocket06:56
crocketI can't figure out the right argument to add-apt-repository06:56
crocketauronandace, The bot is dead.06:56
Ashvaraven: svZ1306:56
Dr_Willisthe ppa web sites show the commands to use under their help popup06:56
ravencrocket - sudo add-apt-repository ppa:<insertPPA>06:56
rabtenhi, i just installed ubuntu 12.04. in firefox, when i click on a file (such as one of the 'install now's from  http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/12.04/?category=Graphics&page=2), the 'Launch Application With' dialogue box appears, but not the program i want to use, such as the Software Center. is  this a common problem?06:57
crocketraven, The problem is that I can't figure out the ppa name of mainline kernel ppa.06:57
ravencorcket, you are attemptingt to put 12.04 into Mainline correct?06:57
Ashvaraven: yeah your right, it's VAIO SVZ13106:57
Ashvaa206:57
rabtenalso i can't locate it from the 'choose another' menu06:58
ravenAshva, the fingerprint scanner on your laptop is currenlty not supported, but apparently will be supported in the 3.10 kernel mainline release. It is a new Authentech system and thus has not been coded for LInux yet.06:58
ravencrocket, You are attempting to put 12.04 into Mainline correct>06:58
crocketraven, I'm using 13.0406:58
stinktDr_Willis: ..thanks for trying to help me out..appreciate it much!06:59
Ashvaraven: thank you very much, You helped me alot06:59
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ravenMy pleasure Ashva06:59
ravenCrocket , i do not believe there is a Mainline PPA, as it is the Proposed PPA that handles the kernel updates. Are you attempting to update Kernel to the latest? i found that you have to manually install the kernel07:00
Dr_Willisi really wouldent go too far out of my way for a fingerprint scanner. ;)07:01
rabtenhi, i'm on 12.04. Using Firefox. when i click on a d/l link, or file, the 'launch application with' box appears, but not the program i want to use, the software center. i can't locate the software center from the 'choose another' list either07:01
m113tWhat does everybody think of the new iPhone 5S?07:01
crocketraven, 3.8.0-19-generic hangs during shutdown.07:01
ravenm113t, it's apple crap, nuff said07:01
Dr_Willisrabten:  you want a .deb to automatically open with software center?07:02
auronandacem113t: off topic07:02
helmut_hi07:02
ravencrocket, you are using 64bit correct?07:02
rabtenDr. yes, i have installed the pacakge and GPG key for getdeb07:02
crocketraven, yes07:03
Dr_Willisrabten:  it would be easier to  gdebi as the app to use for .deb files. or just download the .deb then double click on it.07:03
ravencrocket, please check out this page : http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-the-linux-kernel-3-9-9-on-ubuntu-debian-derivates/07:03
ravencrocket, that link has instructions on using wget int the terminal to manually get the 3.9.9 kernel and how to install them.07:03
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ravenI found that the 3.9.9 kernel is a lot faster, and less how power hungry than 3.8 which has power regressions. If that does not fix your shutdown issue, please let me know of any errors that show up during shutdown07:04
rabtenDr. i'm following a book 'ubuntu made easy'.  and have followed instructions for adding the getdeb repository. now it says to go to the website, choose 'install now' and then choose 'the software center' from the launch application with box. but it's not there, is that common? i also experience the same thing with a file i wanted to launch with Deluge,  - Deluge didn't appear in the 'launch app with' box and i couldn't find it07:05
treeprogramhi, I'm getting the following error show up when I boot up "hda-intel: no codecs found"07:05
rabtenin 'choose another'07:05
auronandacerabten: be aware that installing .debs from outside the official repos can cause dependency problems07:05
treeprogramit started occurring after I was forced to do a hard reboot. Any suggestions on how I can fix it?07:05
crocketraven, I'm somewhat disappointed by the wrong choice of kernel version.07:05
Dr_Willisrabten:  i would imagine that book is out of date.     personally i associate 'gdebi' with .debs  (well gdebi-gtk) since it would load in 1/6th the time software center would take to load07:06
Dr_Willisrabten:  easiest is just to save the .deb and then install themn07:06
ravencrocket, what do you mean by the wrong choice?07:07
rabtenok i tried that. there's no 'save' option though , just 'launch application' . how do i save  or download the .deb ? the site i am on is http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/12.04/?category=Graphics&page=207:08
crocketraven, 3.8.0 is a wrong choice.07:08
rabten(and the book is actually using 13.04 so i think it's recent)07:08
karab44hello07:09
ravencrocket, i hear your pain. Im dual booting ElementaryoS (12.04) and Ubuntu 13.04, and found that 3.8 on both of those are buggy as. Ever since the 3.6 Kernel, i havent been able to login with lightdm fluently. I hope that 3.10 fixes these issues07:09
ravenhello karab44 :)07:09
karab44:D07:09
karab44how's goin?07:09
karab44I thought that I can improve my ubuntu by making my mouse more useful07:09
crocketraven, Linux is certainly a win, but it's buggy.07:10
karab44for example, when I press mouse button 3 on web browser I should expect something like scroll in every direction, but it doesn't work07:10
karab44how to extend mouse functionality?07:10
ravencrocket, Linux is only buggy because its basically reverse engineered by the public. It is a LOT more powerful than Windows and MacOSX, but becuase of its complexity, one little problem can ruin it.07:10
crocketraven, Why is it reverse engineered? It is opensource.07:11
ravencrocket, When i say reverse engineered i mean that the public has to come sometimes come up with fixes for problems because the designers / company that make the peripheral or hardware etc will not fix it.07:12
karab44Ok I found solution, Ty :)07:12
crocketraven, So hardware vendors make people reverse-engineer their hardwares?07:13
Dr_Williscrocket:  yes.07:13
Dr_Williscrocket:  they dont release specs.. so people have to figure them out07:14
ravenCrocket, exactly what Dr_Willis said.07:14
ravencrocket : Because of this, sometimes things dont run as expected because the community is having to take something that they didn't create, and make drivers for it.07:14
karab44nope, I was wrong07:15
ravenkarab44, what exactly were you trying to accomplish?07:16
karab44on middle button, when I press it in ie web browser I should have horizontal and vertical scrolling, same thing in nautilus and others...07:17
drcasper_could anyone recommend me a good - easy to use - light mail server for 12.10 ?07:17
karab44but it doesn't work07:17
drcasper_also the same for a web server07:17
karab44but middle button works, because I use it to close tabs.07:18
karab44and move/copy files07:18
karab44but I miss this scrolling07:18
ravenkarab44 that is more a Windows thing. I cant do that on my mouse, not that i would want to really.  A lot of web browsers have that integrated, but its not currently integrated into mainline OS, as it wasnt a crucial thing to have added07:19
ravendrcasper_ Apache is THE BEST web server for LInux, so use that. As for mail servers, im not too sure, ive had some experience with PostFix etc, but they all seem a little.....clunky07:21
drcasper_thank you raven .. i shall install apache07:22
ravendrcasper_ i am finding out what i currently use on my server (my friend installed it for me) and i will let you know (in regards to mail server).07:22
drcasper_:)07:23
karab44raven: It's a manner of mouse drivers, not OS related.07:23
karab44I did such trick years ago configuring xorg.07:23
ravenkarab44, well in that case, what mouse do you have? Because my Logitech has all these features built in that just, work.07:23
karab44Logitech G507:23
ravenLogitech G5 should work fine with Logitech extensions as their support is pretty good.07:24
karab44wow, Have to try07:24
ravenit really depends on the mouse, and whether or not the software you are using supports it.07:25
ravendrcasper_ have a look at iredmail.org. Ive used it before and its pretty good07:25
karab44could you point what extension is that, because software center shows a bunch of that.07:25
drcasper_excelent raven07:26
ravendrcasper_ of course :) cant recommend something that's shite :P07:26
lessshastehow can you control the case fan speed from ubuntu?07:30
juennhai yee! anybody who can help me on configuring my webserver?07:30
juennhow can i edit the servername in ubuntu 12? httpd.conf is missing07:30
chiquesIs the 64 bit version of 13.04 any less stable than the 32 bit?07:30
karab44okay, nevermind. This is a small thing.07:30
auronandacechiques: not in my experience07:31
chiquesauronandace, do you notice a performance difference?07:31
karab44I have a bigger issue. Anybody tried to force to work any DLNA server with Sony Bravia? I tried any DLNA server on the market and it doesn't work. Where do I go wrong?07:31
auronandacechiques: if you got 64bit capable hardware then there really isn't much reason not to run 64bit07:32
slick0_karab44, did you enable port forwarding07:32
chiquesauronandace, ok, that's what I thought too. I guess I'm aging my self by thinking the 64 bit version will be more buggy07:32
karab44slick0_: As far as I know, I don't need any port forwarding07:33
crocketHow do I set up ibus in gnome shell in ubuntu 13.04?07:34
crocketLanguage settings aren't applied to gnome shell.07:34
karab44Although I have my Home Theater plugged to different router but it's bridged to one subnet.07:35
slick0_IPv6?07:36
karab44no, IPv407:36
slick0_IPv6 might work out better07:36
karab44I have a client bridge between routers07:36
slick0_im just guessing07:37
karab44slick0_: I don't believe Sony bravia uses ipv6... hmm anyway I want to stay with v407:37
slick0_you didnt bought an IPv6 tshirt?07:37
karab44hehehe no07:37
karab44who needs ipv607:38
karab44maybe when every microwave, iron and fridge will use internet I'll start thinking about ipv607:39
MonkeyDustkarab44  in the near future, ipv6 will become the standard, out of necessity, not because someone would "want" it07:41
crocketIn gnome shell, if I enter background settings, I see http://imagebin.org/270871. It has no window manager, and it doesn't allow me to add a custom background image in the UI.07:42
crocketWhat's wrong with gnome shell?07:42
crocketShould I just go with unity or ubuntu gnome?07:42
karab44anyway I heard that Sony's DLNA is not that liberal as others that are just simple uPnP07:42
madsailorhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion07:42
madsailorkarab44,  ^07:43
karab44MonkeyDust: I agree but nobody can force me to use it. I can still light house with candle if I want.07:43
karab44madsailor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_transition_mechanisms07:45
karab44People think that IPv4 will just vanish from one day to another.07:48
bazhangkarab44, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please07:49
crocketJesus07:49
crocketGNOME devs are becoming weirdos.07:49
karab44bazhang: tell it to your friends, that tries to explain some obvious things07:49
crocketGNOME devs refuse to remove background image settings that are present in other DEs.07:50
crocketGNOME devs insist on removing background image settings that are present in other DEs.07:50
crocketThey don't want us to resize background images in background image settings.07:50
karab44You come ask for DLNA server and you hear lecture about ip standards HAHA.07:50
Dr_Williskarab44:  like ushare, or plex. or media-tomb. or xbmc.. or. hmmm i think theres 3 more in the repos07:51
Dr_Willissimpledlna, and07:51
Dr_Willisi cant think of any others ;)07:52
crocketGNOME 3 as of 3.6 is an evil.07:53
auronandacecrocket: please stop the ranting, this is a ubuntu support channel07:53
karab44Dr_Willis: I tried plex - it's nice but it doesn't work with Sony Bravia. Mediatomb, minidlna, rygel - they all fail to connect to Home Theater07:53
Dr_Williskarab44:  thats weird. they all work great with my Samsung  Smart tv and my rasperry pi07:54
karab44I think they all uses simple uPnP07:54
Dr_Williscant say ive noticed a complex upnp ;)07:54
karab44Dr_Willis: yes, I don't say they doesn't work at all. But I can not force them to work with bravia. I read about problems with Sony.07:55
xtrizwhat is the use of openldap ?07:55
xtrizldap is for maintaining credentials of users  who log into your box ?07:56
madsailorNot quite support, but I was looking for a good place to find both sides of the argument for Wayland vs the Ubuntu/Canonical version of a re-implementation of Xserver?07:57
Dr_Willis!info openldap07:57
ubot93Package openldap does not exist in raring07:57
Dr_Willismadsailor:  perhaps in #ubuntu-offtopic07:57
Dr_Willisand the xmir wiki page07:57
Dr_Willisor mir wiki page.07:58
madsailorok. thx Dr_Willis07:58
MonkeyDustmadsailor  there's also #ubuntu-mir07:58
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xtrizcan anyone tell why we use openldap ?08:05
Dr_Willisperhaps the wikipedia page on the tool ?08:06
electricprismQ: can someone help me understand why my xorg.conf appears zoomed in, when i move the mouse to the corner the screen moves http://pastebin.com/Mjx95JKT08:07
xtrizDr_Willis, yeah i tried but still having bit hard time to understand what it does exactly.08:08
Dr_Williselectricprism:  theres an X feature for 'panning' around a display if your desktop for example is set to 1080x1080 and your monitor is onluy able to show for example 600x80008:08
Dr_Williselectricprism: ive not seen it used in years.08:08
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electricprismDr_Willis: My monitor is a Samsung 710n and supports 1280x1024. The Ubuntu login screen shows up with the correct depth but when I start unity I have a zoomed in view which "pans" / scrolls as i move the mouse to the edges08:09
electricprismPerhaps I specified the driver in my xorg.conf wrong08:10
Dr_Willisthe xrandr tools or the monitors/display tool may be able to correct it electricprism08:10
Dr_WillisI dont even need an xorg.conf file on most of my machines08:10
electricprismDr_Willis - I wish I was so fortunate :) without one Ubuntu maxes my resolution at 1024x768, thanks Ill google  xrandr tools i think08:11
cloudy_nzxtriz: it ties in with Microsoft Active Directory, it's a messaging protocol08:11
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cloudy_nzADS manages network resources, and can translate resource names into IP addresses, etc.08:12
xtrizcloudy_nz, ok :)08:13
xtriz Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'test -x /usr/bin/apt-show-versions || exit 0 ; apt-show-versions -i'08:14
xtrizgetting this error on doing sudo apt-get update08:14
UserErrorWhat are the minimum number of packages08:17
Dr_Willisthats sort of vague08:20
xtre_ Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'test -x /usr/bin/apt-show-versions || exit 0 ; apt-show-versions -i'08:22
xtre_getting this error on doing sudo apt-get update08:22
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ravenxtre_ : Type : sudo dpkg --clear-avail, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f08:35
crockethow do I disable global application menu?08:37
xtre_raven, still the same error.08:37
Dr_Williscrocket:   there some guides on how at askubuntu.com and the webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites  crocket08:38
Dr_Willisyou can remove it completely, or disable it for single apps via env settings08:38
ravenxtre_ do you get same error if you run : sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:38
xtre_i am running on ubuntu 13.0408:39
xtre_doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:39
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xtre_raven, yeah same error when doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:41
ravenxtre_ : Okay hmm. Did you recently do an upgrade from one OS to version to another?08:41
xtre_xtre_, no i had done nothing.08:42
ravenxtre:_ also, under your software sources, ensure that it is set to Main Server instead of "Server for <country>"08:42
xtre_only delete files from cache folder as my root was full.08:42
xtre_raven, i can't open ubuntu software center too ..!!08:43
ravenxtre_: that would probably be why. Hmm . Try removing apt-show-version, and then re-install it08:43
ravenxtre_: It's definitely an error in regards to the apt-show-version being corrupted. If not, remove the config file for it in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20apt-show-versions08:43
ravenxtre_ :  To uninstall and re-install it, run the following commands in a terminal : sudo apt-get remove apt-show-version && sudo apt-get install apt-show-version08:45
xtre_raven, removed the file. while installing apt-show-version it says unable to locate the package.08:45
xtre_it was already removed from my system.08:45
Dr_Willisyou removed everything from the apt cache directory?08:47
xtre_Dr_Willis, yes08:47
Dr_Willishow exactly did you delete them?08:48
ravenoh08:48
ravenxtre_: i made a typo boo boo. Sudo apt-get install apt-show-versions08:48
ravenwith an S, not just version08:48
ravenIf you dont NEED that software, then you could just do an apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade08:48
xtre_doing apt-get update now ..08:49
ravendid apt-show-versions install fine08:50
raven?08:50
xtre_raven, when i was installing apt-show-versions gave an error, so now updating with apt-get update.08:50
ravenIf your update works fine, then maybe dont install apt-show-versions unless you NEED it08:51
xtre_raven, ok08:51
ravenI dont have it installed, and its not crucial, apparently its a known bug.08:51
xtre_raven, hoping this just works out08:52
ravenokay, i'll be back in a few minutes :) Lemme know how it goes08:53
xtre_raven, sure :) thanks for all this guidance :)08:54
ravenxtre_: how did it go ?09:07
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linuxthefishwhy no spellcheck in LibreOffice?09:11
linuxthefishi can type random stuff and it says no spelling or grammer errors...09:11
xtre_raven, still it is updating..!!09:11
xtre_stil showing me 5 min to go..09:11
ravenxtre_: is there any other errors?09:12
xtre_raven, luckily i have not got any errors till now.09:12
vnc786linuxthefish: it is there ..09:12
xtre_but this is for the first time the update is taking this much time.09:12
ravenOkay, let it go for a bit. it i saing "Waiting on something"09:12
raven?09:12
ravenwhat was the last line say ?09:12
linuxthefishvnc786: Bizzinessses is a word? O.o09:13
linuxthefishdoes Office 2013 run well in Wine?09:13
xtre_raven, Get:9 http://archive.ubuntu.com raring/universe i386 Packages [5,405 kB]09:13
bekksThere is no guarantee that a spellcheck will work correctly.09:13
ravenOkay, so its a slow mirror., let it update :)09:14
xtre_raven, ok :)09:14
ravenxtre_ :if it takes more than 5 minutes, go to the Software Sources and choose a Server that is close to you.09:14
xtre_raven, ok waiting for 5 mint now.09:14
ravenokay, try another mirror09:14
ravencancle the update09:14
ravenand then try another mirror09:14
xtre_raven, ok09:15
vnc786linuxthefish: Bizzinessses ? do you mean business09:16
linuxthefishyeah, I'll try OpenOffice :p09:16
ravenCan anyone recommend a recent alternative to SKype that works well on Ubuntu?09:18
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xtre_raven, have you heared about jitsi ?09:19
ravenIve heard about it, never used it though. Is it good?09:19
xtre_heard*09:20
electricprismhow do I change my resolution in mir?09:20
xtre_raven,  not that bad.09:20
ravenis it cross platform? or only linux?09:20
xtre_raven, cross platform.09:21
xtre_one of the best alternate to skype.09:21
ravenI see, im gonna give it a go :)09:21
xtre_raven,  :)09:23
SwashBucklaHi there, I have a 4th Generation iPod shuffle, which is not currently supported in GtkPod (see http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Supported+iPods#ShuffleFourth). How do I put music onto it?09:26
SwashBucklaI don't have Windows or Mac09:26
ravenThe only software that i know of that is decent is GtkPod but since that doesnt work, im honestly not too sure. Have you tried Rythembox?09:27
pippociao09:32
xtre_raven, still the update is going on..09:32
pippo!lista09:33
ubottupippo: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».09:33
xtre_pippo, done :)09:34
xtre_sorry pippo not for you.09:34
xtre_raven, now errors while updating :)09:34
ravenxtre_ no errors? Works fine?09:34
xtre_raven, no errors while updating :)09:35
ravenxtre_ sweet! :) we fixed it haha09:35
xtre_raven, you fixed it :D09:35
xtre_i was just following your instructions09:35
ravenxtre_ the way that i do things is as follows: 1. Is it required for normal use of the OS?, No? THEN WIPE THAT SHIZZ OUT09:36
raven:P09:36
ravenSo removing it was the logical option.09:36
xtre_raven, he he he09:36
xtre_raven, but while downloading packages i am getting error09:37
xtre_Errors were encountered while processing: man-db09:37
ravenwhat package were you downloading?09:37
xtre_raven, just for testing purpose i was installing ntp09:37
xtre_should i reinstall ?09:38
bekksxtre_: Do oyu use Windows? If not, you dont need to reinstall.09:38
xtre_bekks, never09:38
xtre_i only have linux on my machine09:38
mamedhow to revert from nemo to nautilus09:38
bekksxtre_: So you dont need behave like being on windows ;)09:39
xtre_bekks, ok :)09:39
bekksxtre_: Pastebin the entire output of "apt-get install ntp"09:39
mamedah i did i think09:39
mamedmy problem wasdesktop icons and they came09:39
ravenxtre_: first think i do if i get package errors is run: sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get autoremove. Sometimes there are conflicting, or missing packages.09:40
bekksRunning sudo apt-get autoremove when having install problems is a bad idea.09:40
SwashBucklaHi there, I have a 4th Generation iPod shuffle, which is not currently supported in GtkPod (see http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Supported+iPods#ShuffleFourth). How do I put music onto it? I don't have Windows or Mac09:41
ravenbekks : explain? I never have an issue when doing it?09:41
bekksraven: When deps where installed because the failing package needs them, autoremove will uninstall the needed deps again. So the next install run will have to install them again.09:43
xtre_prob solved removed man-db and now no errors.09:43
bekksraven: And thats just not necessary.09:43
bekksxtre_: You did not solve the problem ;)09:43
xtre_bekks, still what i have to do ?09:43
ravenbekks : oh yes, i understand. What i meant was, once you install software, if there are packages it no longer needs, use autoremove.09:43
bekksxtre_: You just uninstalled some software showing an artefact.09:43
bekksxtre_: Now, since you uninstalled it, we cant tell you anymore.09:44
xtre_installing back again09:44
bekksxtre_: Its to late now.09:45
bekksxtre_: I asked you to pastebin something, which you didnt.09:46
xtre_bekks, sorry for that.09:46
xtre_i though i can research myself and solve the prob but apparently i didn't :D09:46
xtre_bekks, should i paste the error ?09:47
ravenxtre_ yes, paste the error :)09:48
xtre_raven, thanks :)09:50
xtre_http://bpaste.net/show/KUlqF2Rzx3Om6DO0yc61/09:50
xtre_this was when i was installing man-db09:50
xtre_this error when i was install ntp after installing man-db http://bpaste.net/show/uAkRjlHFLOUglQLFyRzf/09:51
ravenrun, okay sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade09:51
ravenand let me know what happens09:51
xtre_ok doing it.09:51
unknown101!skype09:52
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga09:52
ravenif that command does not work xtre_, try running : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -a09:54
xtre_ok09:54
xtre_till now everything is going well.09:55
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xtre_it seems that there is a prob with the man-db package.09:55
ravenevne when running the dpkg-reconfigure?09:56
crockethi09:57
cfhowlettcrocket, greetings09:57
xtre_raven, sudo apt-get safe-upgrade, i am getting E: invalid operation safe-upgrade not found.09:58
ravendamn, hmmm09:58
ravenokay09:58
ravenattempt this : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -a09:58
xtre_got errors straight away..09:59
xtre_pasting the errors.10:00
xtre_ http://bpaste.net/show/d0wbEOUxCZVoegKk8X2e/10:00
pippociao10:01
unknown101Where i can find ubuntu's "Temp foler" ?10:01
pippo!lista10:01
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bekksunknown101: /tmp10:01
unknown101ty10:01
unknown101what is pulse-PKdhtXMmr18n and why is locked10:03
bekksunknown101: A temporary file.10:04
bekksunknown101: How do you know it is locked?10:04
ravenxtre_ I honestly have no idea unfortunately10:05
ravenRe-installing it,and re-configuring it should be woring fine10:05
unknown101bekks give me 1 sec i'll show you how i know10:05
xtre_raven, np mate :) thanks for all you help :)10:05
unknown101thats why10:05
xtre_bekks, if you can guide me  ?10:05
unknown101http://s12.postimg.org/5e4y5j8yx/Screenshot_from_2013_09_14_13_05_03.png10:05
ravenxtre_ i'll keep looking though, got a friend coming online here who is going to have a look too10:05
xtre_raven, i would be really thankfull to you :)10:06
raventhose files are just temp files. if you are REALLY wanting to get rid of it, run gksu nautilus, browse to the folder, and remove10:06
xtre_till the time being should i remove man-db ?10:06
ravenbut i wouldnt remove it i was you10:06
ravenWelcome Deareth. As you can see xtre_ is having issues with Man-DB. Accidentally removed it, and now everything is fubaring10:07
ravenso xtre_ first off. You removed man-db using sudo apt-get remove man-db correct?10:08
xtre_raven, yeah correct10:08
ravenTo my knowledge, Linux should have thrown up a hissy fit when you did that10:09
ravenxtre_ can you attempt to install a completely different package please?10:10
ravenand let us know if you get same errors10:10
Daerethapt-get purge man-db then try reinstalling?10:10
ravenyeah good point, purge the shizz out of it10:10
ravenxtre_ , run this command in terminal : sudo apt-get purge man-db && sudo apt-get install man-db10:10
alfatihmhhi all10:11
xtre_raven, still the same error persist10:11
cfhowlettalfatihmh, greetings10:11
alfatihmhguys how i can install msf in my ubuntu10:12
awhi10:12
alfatihmhhi10:12
xtre_raven,  installing different version of the same package.10:13
ravenxtre_ okay, let me know how it goes10:13
ravenalfatihmh, what do yu mean by msf?10:13
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xtre_raven, its a bug10:18
xtre_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/man-db/+bug/119632710:18
ubottuUbuntu bug 1196327 in man-db (Ubuntu) "package man-db 2.6.5-2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New]10:18
ravenThought so, wasnt sure if that was the latest or not.10:19
LrdArcfor some reason i can't connect to wifi that has authenticated proxy10:24
ravenLrdArc , Linux Version, Model of WIFI Card, Kernel version.10:25
LrdArcubuntu 13.04, how can i check wifi card?10:28
Dr_Willis!wifi10:29
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:29
Dr_Willislspci should show the chipset/make and info10:29
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LrdArc01:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 510010:32
LrdArc02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet (rev c0)10:32
ravenis it just not detecting the network?10:33
LrdArcthis is the last log of dmesg when trying to connect http://pastebin.com/yC2xeNZ110:33
LrdArcit's detected but can't connect10:33
LrdArcthis is something like university wifi, it uses proxy to connect10:33
Dr_Willishttp://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi10:34
Dr_Willisseems that chipset uses the iwlwifi drivers.10:34
lepineWould there be a better channel for questions about ecryptfs? I have a couple questions after a partial hard-drive crash ...10:34
ravenLrdArc : Ths is a page about updating the firmware drivers for Linux for that card, seems to work better :http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/intel-wifi-link-5100-cannot-work-on-linux-678588/10:36
Walexlepine: the answer is "backups" :-)10:36
ravenPlease see the very last post10:36
lepineEg, I'm rsync'ing all of /home/.ecryptfs off the drive. I seem to have the login-wrapped passphrase intact10:36
ravenlepine, what exactly is the problem?10:36
ravenlrdArc what kernel are you running?10:37
lepineWell, from what I see, and what I read, it seems that it just encrypts the files and stores the cyphertext transparently on the underlying, say, ext4 partition10:37
LrdArcit's 3.8.0-27-generic10:37
ravenOkay, latest Kernel. hmm10:37
ravenI know there was an issue in the 3.6 kernel with Wifi5000 cards that caused it to not authenticate10:37
ravenis it a Wireless N access point?10:38
ravenIf you by any change know10:38
ravencance **10:38
lepineevery file in .ecryptfs/user/... with a weird name (encrypted) corresponds to one file10:38
lepineSo, essentially, all the files I manage to copy off the drive are salvageabe10:38
lepineWalex: I do have a backup, but from last week :-/10:39
LrdArcwhat do you mean by "wireless N"?10:39
ravenLrdArc well there is currently a bug in iwlwifi that causes huge amounts of latency and errors when connectiong to Wireless N (802.11n) access points.10:41
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ravenIm tinking that this (currently unsolved) issue may be affecting you to, just in a different way10:41
LrdArcso currently there's no solution to fixed it? :'(10:44
linuhi i try download youtube videos, i have used youtube-dl,but it not worked,i got the below error while downloading video ayoutube-dl  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o65X97CpZU[youtube] Setting language WARNING: unable to set language: [youtube] 6o65X97CpZU: Downloading video webpageERROR: unable to download video webpage: can you tell  me what is that issues10:45
jriblinu: you could try a more recent version of youtube-dl10:49
loinhi guys, i can't play a dvd i just purchased, can i get some help on this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6105633/10:49
jrib!dvd | loin10:49
ubottuloin: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:49
loinjrib, can i just rip the movie off the dvd and remove the libraries afterwards?10:50
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jribloin: I guess, but why would you do that?10:50
loinjrib, so i don't risk scratching my dvd ?10:50
jribloin: I mean why would you remove the libraries?10:51
loinjrib, i guess there's a reason they weren't added in by default, right?10:51
jribloin: sure?10:51
Dr_Willisloin:  look on the dvd packgeing see if theres some mention of anti-copying stuff logo looks like 2 magnets i recall.10:51
Dr_WillisI definatly HAVE seen newer copy protected DVD movies that i could not p-lay on my linux pc or in windows. Or even on an older dvd player10:52
loinDr_Willis, you mean the "this dvd is copy protected"?10:52
Dr_WillisI had to resort to using DVD Fab to rip them10:52
jribhe doesn't have css10:52
Dr_Williscss would be needed also. ;)10:52
loinshould i just return the dvd ?10:53
Dr_WillisTheres new protection out that goes beyone CSS.10:53
jribloin: why don't you install the packages ubottu told you about and tryingplaying it?10:53
loinjrib, well i want to rip it to play it on all my devices10:53
loinnot just my laptop10:53
jribloin: that's fine.  After you see that you can play it, you can rip it.10:53
Dr_Willisif its not got that super-protection - you can rip it.10:53
lepineraven: Can you confirm my suspiscion? Provided I have the passphrase(s), if rsync manages to copy it off my drive, the file is salvageable ...10:53
jribfirst step is to see if you can play it...10:53
ravenlepine :Yes, in a sense10:54
loinjrib, is this the whole drm thing everyone's talking about?10:54
ravenyou COULD get the files back if you could de-crypt each one with a passphrase10:54
ravenmaybe set up a script to go through and do it all, depending on the size of the files10:54
jribloin: this is one instance of drm I suppose;  I don't know if anyone still talks about it10:54
ravenPersonally ive never had it happen to me, and i use TrueCrypt10:54
Dr_Willisloin:  theres several kinds of DRM on dvd's10:55
linujrib ya i will try10:55
slick0_several?10:55
lepineah, I was thinking copy everything I can, which will be 90% of it, I presume, and could still manage to mount the thing10:55
loindr10:55
loinDr_Willis, this is my first dvd i ever bought10:55
Dr_Willisslick0_:  yes.. the trend is going past just the old DecSS stuff10:55
slick0_Direct Rendering Modules?10:55
loinand if things go this way it'll most likely be the last one, why are they doing this to paying customer?10:55
Dr_Willisslick0_:  guess again10:55
xtre_is it a good idea to have samba , nfs using authentication kerberos and LDAP on ubuntu desktop edition ? or i should go for ubuntu server ?10:56
jribxtre_: nothing wrong with that10:56
slick0_you just need to make an image of the Bray10:56
slick0_and mount it10:56
jribxtre_: if you don't use the desktop then you're wasting some resources by running the gui; that's all10:56
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Dr_Willisslick0_:  i definatly havd DVD movies that  do not work that way10:57
xtre_jrib, ok :)10:57
slick0_thats because you are using windows N10:57
slick0_anyone using OS$?11:01
slick0_OS411:01
bekksWhats that?11:02
slick0_were can i get a good ransom nick generator?11:03
MonkeyDustslick0_  try to stick to one nick, or you'll confuse people11:05
slick0_im just looking to rampp ss n my channels11:07
slick0_i want to make it look like my channnel is crowded11:08
slick0_ive allready devised several characters to make to chat to each other at semi random intervals11:09
carlogeaclaudiuHi guys! I have an Asus Vivobook s500, it has a touchscreen (touchscreen laptop) and I am running saucy. How can I get the touchscreen to work?11:09
carlogeaclaudiuIt works as a touchpad now11:09
steinpfexit11:10
patagonicusHi there. I'm on Ubuntu 13.04 and I had to kill steam when Fez hung. Now when I start steam I only get this and a process sitting idle: https://gist.github.com/Patagonicus/06b83d04a1ba8453e62611:10
euryaleHi guys!11:17
euryaleDo i need to install nVidia drivers for ubuntu?11:17
euryaleMy current graphics driver is Gallium 0.4 on NVE7.11:18
sam_hhi all, I hve a question about ubuntu-vm-builder, anyone use it?11:21
euryaleDo i need to install nVidia drivers for ubuntu?11:21
euryaleMy current graphics driver is Gallium 0.4 on NVE7.11:21
sam_hessentially, it creates a directory to build the VM in, but fails when it tries to chroot into it11:21
blazemoresam_h, Are you getting any sort of error message?11:22
sam_hblazemore - I'll rerun to get you a full log (will take 5 min). In the mean time, it's falling over when it runs this:11:23
sam_hchroot /tmp/tmpaagZ5J mount -t proc proc /proc11:23
blazemoresam_h, OK that's fine, just put the full error output on http://paste.ubuntu.com11:24
linuxthefishcan anyone ping box2.linuxthefish.net please? :D11:27
linuxthefishit's down for me...11:27
sam_heuryale: Gallium 0.4 essentially means you are using the opensource stack for nvidia. Nvidia do a proprietary closed source driver, which has some extra features but is considered less stable11:27
MonkeyDustlinuxthefish  yes, redirected11:27
linuxthefishthanks, my stupid college blocks any SSH connections i make after a few days...11:28
MonkeyDustlinuxthefish  http://downorisitjustme.com/11:28
linuxthefishno webserver xD11:28
bekkssam_h: Since when nvidia ever uses gallium? ATI used to use gallium.11:28
sam_hbekks: I'm pretty sure that noveau uses gallium, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallium3D11:30
linujrib it shows the same issue even i have tried with latest version11:30
jriblinu: don't know then11:31
bekkssam_h: Ah, so nouveau started to use gallium too. A long time ago only ATI used it.11:31
jriblinu: how did you get the latest version?11:31
WotWhereneed help configuring sendmail http://pastebin.com/pPebQVC011:31
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linujrib by follow this doc http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html11:32
jriblinu: okj11:32
TheHopeBuster!flood11:33
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:33
TheHopeBuster!help11:33
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:33
TheHopeBuster.help11:33
TheHopeBuster?help11:33
TheHopeBusterflood11:33
gordonjcpTheHopeBuster: do you have an Ubuntu support question?11:33
TheHopeBusterNo, sorry11:33
euryaleThanks Sam_H11:35
euryaleI want a smoother experience for the desktop effects, i'm not using Compiz.11:36
euryaleEverytime i use "ctrl + w" it's not smooth as it was when i use ati driver on my ati card.11:37
euryaleI use nvidia card now. so i was thinking if install the driver, it will perform better?11:37
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Roberth1990hello I am installing *ubuntu and when the installer is installing grub to /dev/sda, and this comes up "Grub-install dummy failed", it is an efi system, anybody know the sollution to this?11:57
Roberth1990the installer crashes after that message and grub was not installed on /dev/sda11:58
Roberth199013.0411:58
sam_hblazemore: I got that log12:00
sam_hblazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6105884/12:00
yeehiVirtualbox informs me I will be unable to start VMs. When VB launches, I get the following error message: The vboxdrv kernel module is not loaded. Either there is no module available for the current kernel (3.11.0-gnu) or it failed to load.  I run the following command, but get an error in the logfile: sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup   Makefile:181: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Ma12:01
yeehike again.  Stop.12:01
pippoiabadabadu ciao12:01
pippo!lista12:01
ubottupippo: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».12:01
bekksyeehi: Read the manual on the prerequisites for installing the kernel driver.12:01
bekksyeehi: the vbox manual.12:01
yeehithanks, bekks12:03
BluesKaj'Morning folks12:04
Karmahackerhi guys could  anyone please advice how to set up an VPN server on ubuntu 12.04  ?12:05
cfhowlett!vpn12:05
ubottuFor more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN12:05
cfhowlettKarmahacker, also you might ask in #ubuntu-server12:05
BluesKaj'Morning folks12:06
pippo!lista12:09
ubottupippo: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».12:09
sam_hKarmahacker: that wiki link you got sent seems to be for setting up a VPN client12:10
Karmahackeri need an server12:10
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sam_hKarmahacker: I set up a VPN server a while ago based on some notes online. will find them.12:10
elferya there are alot of vpn server howto's on google12:10
bekksAnd one is linked in the VPN article above.12:12
c0nfusedLubunterIs someone here and able to help me out? :)12:12
bekks!anyone | c0nfusedLubunter12:12
ubottuc0nfusedLubunter: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.12:12
cfhowlett!askc0nfusedLubunter,12:12
cfhowlett!ask|c0nfusedLubunter,12:13
ubottuc0nfusedLubunter,: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:13
crocketIf I move the mouse cursor in VLC fullscreen mode, VLC control appears, and so does unity for a short time.12:13
Roberth1990http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=c1K5RJdM why am I getting this? either if I have mount my efi parition /dev/sda1 on /boot or /boot/efi?12:14
crocketHow do I suppress unity from showing over VLC in fullscreen mode?12:14
Karmahackersam_h  thanks!     elfer:  yes there is many but which one to chosose )))12:14
crocketI could turn off compositing in fullscreen mode in KWin. Is there a similar option in unity?12:14
sam_hKarmahacker: I think this was it, essentially the guy is using openVPN to create a 'coffee shop proof' tunnel from his computer to a server. If you wanted to do more of a private network thing you'd need to mod http://nikinuryadin.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/step-by-step-setting-up-openvpn-in-debian-with-routing-tun-connection/12:14
sam_hKarmahacker: that said, I have no idea if this is the best way to do such a setup12:14
c0nfusedLubunterOkay here comes the question: I am using Lubuntu 13.04. I want to know if there's a way to move the whole "Application Launcher Bar" as a whole entity? The whole "thing" is now on the right side of the task bar, and i want to move it to the left, and i want it to be positioned next to the Lubuntu start menu, where all the programs are. Is this possible?12:15
sam_hopenvpn seemed to be the most popular12:15
KarmahackerThank you Sam_h   Thank you Guys  youre the best!! ))12:15
human39Hi all.  I want to remap a key on my keyboard to <Super> and I have no clue what it is.  Is there an app that will tell me?12:16
sam_hKarmahacker: I'd say it was a bit tricky. Also, those notes are for debian, although there shouldn't be too much difference. thank us when it works.12:17
sam_hKarmahacker: I think there is room in the world for a pre-packaged, easy to set up VPN12:17
sam_hKarmahacker: like iRedMail except for vpns12:18
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KarmahackerThanks for advice !12:18
c0nfusedLubunter!patience12:19
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/12:19
c0nfusedLubunterOkay here comes the question: I am using Lubuntu 13.04. I want to know if there's a way to move the whole "Application Launcher Bar" as a whole entity? The whole "thing" is now on the right side of the task bar, and i want to move it to the left, and i want it to be positioned next to the Lubuntu start menu, where all the programs are. Is this possible?12:19
bekksc0nfusedLubunter: Be patient and dont repeat too quickly.12:20
sam_hc0nfusedLubunter: it might be that no one here at the moment uses Lubuntu, so they don't know / can't try it out :-(12:20
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crocketHow do I turn off compositing in unity in fullscreen mode?12:23
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LyzardKing_c0nfusedLubunter: I'm not using lubuntu at the moment, but I think that rearranging items is not something that can be done with lxpanel. I installed lxpanelx to solve that problem(keep in mind that I haven't used lxde since ubuntu 12.10)12:25
c0nfusedLubunterSo that means that if they've set up the "App Launch Bar" to be on the right, it WILL remain on the right :)12:26
c0nfusedLubunterunless i'm good with coding, so i could sort it out my way :)))12:27
nataliehello12:30
nataliecan u help me with one ''simple'' thing? :/12:31
c0nfusedLubunterAnyone knows how am i able to open a folder in GUI? I mean, which command should i use, while i am in a certain path in terminal, let's say /home/user/Downloads, and i want to open the Downloads Folder with GUI, so i could search "visually" through the contents of that folder?12:31
cariverihi. how do I setup the session to startup from the terminal?12:31
LyzardKing_c0nfusedLubunter: if you have pcmanfm you can type: "pcmanfm ."12:32
natalieI need a help... please :)12:32
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c0nfusedLubunterWorks like a charm, thanks a lot! :)12:33
crocketHow do I turn off compositing in unity?12:33
bekksnatalie: With what?12:33
nataliebekks im attempting to put chat from website into IRC. But I need some simple ''step by step'' instructions as I am not really conversant with linux :p12:34
bekksnatalie: What do you mean by "put chat from website into IRC"?12:35
kruxthinking irc server running on a web browser and connect to it using and irc client instead of the browser ?..12:36
nataliebekks to browse chat from website on IRC instead of going to website :/12:36
bekksnatalie: You want to implement a webchat?12:36
c0nfusedLubunterThe more i use Linux, the more i realize why it's better than Windows :D12:36
bekksnatalie: Thast not related to ubuntu then.12:36
natalie:/12:37
natalieI hate you :|12:37
bekksnatalie: Thats your problem then, not mine.12:37
=== dziegler is now known as dziegler_off
BluesKajbekks, you could have mentioned mibbit :)12:41
bekksBluesKaj: Even freenode doesnt like webchats, so thats a bad idea ;)12:42
BluesKajbekks, didn't know that ...never liked them anyway12:43
bekksBluesKaj: Me neither..12:43
Fuchsbekks: freenode has nothing against webchats in general12:43
Fuchsmibbit is blocked for reasons mentioned on the blog.12:44
bekksFuchs: ah :)12:44
cekee029someone gets post-script error installing samba?12:44
cekee029In my xubuntu does12:44
usr13cekee029: How did you install samba?12:45
cekee029apt-get install samba12:45
usr13cekee029: So, what error do you get?12:45
usr13cekee029: *exactly*12:46
usr13cekee029: The result of the command "sudo apt-get install samba".12:46
=== BTCOxygen|1 is now known as BTCOxygen
usr13!paste12:47
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:47
cekee029wtf is netbios  name12:49
bekkscekee029: A Windows networking setting.12:50
usr13cekee029: Do you have a support question related to Ubuntu?12:50
viktoris there a support channel for wine?12:51
bastidrazor#winehq viktor12:51
viktorbastidrazor, thnks12:51
cekee029It's strange, I only installed xubuntu on my laptop12:51
cekee029I sent the error on the bug page, guess im not the only one12:52
cekee029could be a distro error of 13.04?12:53
bekkscekee029: Show us the error please.12:53
cekee029https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4/+bug/119398712:55
ubottuUbuntu bug 1195096 in samba4 (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1193987 Problem with post-installation script" [Critical,Confirmed]12:55
cekee029ERROR(<class 'samba.provision.InvalidNetbiosName'>): uncaught exception - The name ''Mylaptopname' is not a valid NetBIOS name12:56
cekee029  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/samba/netcmd/__init__.py", line 175, in _run12:56
cekee029    return self.run(*args, **kwargs)12:56
cekee029  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/samba/netcmd/domain.py", line 398, in run12:56
cekee029    use_rfc2307=use_rfc2307, skip_sysvolacl=False)12:56
cekee029  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/samba/provision/__init__.py", line 1892, in provision12:56
FloodBot1cekee029: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:56
bekkscekee029: Run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin the exact, full output.12:56
inroelhello everyone! seems that my whole file system suddenly became read-only. I cannot delete files, with read-only warning. and folders began to be shown with the lock symbol on them.13:00
inroeltest13:00
BluesKajinroel, yes we see your post13:00
hacyardhello everyone!13:01
hacyardhello everyone! seems that my whole file system suddenly became read-only. I cannot delete files, with read-only warning. and folders began to be shown with the lock symbol on them.13:01
=== hacyard is now known as belljar
belljar hello everyone! seems that my whole file system suddenly became read-only. I cannot delete files, with read-only warning. and folders began to be shown with the lock symbol on them.13:01
bekksbelljar: Then take a look at "dmesg".13:02
belljarbekks, what am I to do with it?13:02
belljareven when I do "gksudo nautilus" the reply is "read-only file system"13:03
honestlybelljar: dmesg would tell you if your kernel / fs driver remounted your fs as readonly13:05
honestlyand possibly why13:05
belljarbekks, entering dmesg on command line returned a long black space on the terminal first, then came these lines : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6106105/13:06
cekee029http://pastebin.com/yTGmDiKr13:06
belljarhonestly, I just posted dmesg result13:06
honestlybelljar: you're fscked13:06
belljarhonestly, as I wrote above, "gksudo nautilus" says already "read only file system"13:07
geirhabelljar: Looks like your harddrive might be failing13:07
slick0_you should have used reiserfs13:07
belljarhonestly: in my very limited fsck experience from before, I am not advanced enough to handle any problems with it. geirha: I cant make the connection with hw failing and files becoming read-only (sorry:))13:08
lapt0pHow could i disable my laptop's built-in Wi-Fi card, and use the USB Wireless Card instead?13:08
honestlybelljar: turn off your computer, grab a backup drive, boot from a live disc / live usb, and start data recovery13:08
slick0_its an SSD13:09
geirhabelljar: The kernel detected an error when accessing the harddrive, so it remounted the fs in read/only mode to avoid additional damage13:09
cekee029I think its a 13.04 distro problem13:09
mernilioHi all!13:09
belljargeirha: I see, thank you!  honestly: sure I will do that. but could it be that I lost any data already?13:09
honestlybelljar: http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/13:09
cfhowlettlapt0p, easy fix: hit the wifi hardware switch to disable the builtin wifi.13:09
honestlybelljar: yes it could be13:09
slick0_you need to make a partition around the bacd blck area13:09
cekee029I use xcfe due tu xubuntu distro im using13:10
Wiz_KeeDgreetings everyone13:10
Wiz_KeeDhello ikonia13:10
slick0_sadlly the bad blocks dont display in gparted13:10
belljarhonestly: meanwhile it seems like this should happen once a year13:10
mernilioslick0_:  fuck gparted13:10
honestlyslick0_: please stop talking.13:11
slick0_why?13:11
mernilioworst partition manager eveeerrrr :-P13:11
belljarhonestly: do I need ddrescue? I tried it earlier, and it really couldnt make it really work.13:11
honestlythere is no such thing as "bad blocks" in an SSD13:11
cfhowlett!language|mernilio,13:11
ubottumernilio,: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.13:11
slick0_such agressivity13:11
daftykinshonestly: sure there is13:11
slick0_in this channel no wonder linux user base is below 1 percent13:11
honestlybelljar: use any data recovery tool you'd like13:11
merniliosorry! :-) No profanity or stuff from my side anymore!13:12
lapt0pcfhowlett: I get a message: Wi-Fi is disabled by hardware switch.13:12
mernilioI work as a chef, in the kitchen we use bad language all the time.13:12
belljarhonestly: the disk utility says there is 1 bad sector. is it too bad to recover just by  straight copying the files from harddrive via live usb? without any tool?13:12
cfhowlettlapt0p, right.  now plug in your wifi dongle and see if it detects13:12
slick0_i usually make a partition on the badblocked area and donr format it so the system never uses that area13:12
honestlybelljar: you can do that13:12
lapt0pSo there are no Wi-Fi networks listed, and both, the built-in Wi-Fi card, and the USB Wi-FI card are grey-ed out, like they are not active.13:13
honestlydaftykins: please tell me more about bad blocks on SSDs and how they're not completely hidden by the SSD firmware13:13
cfhowlettmernilio, ??? so the rules here don't apply to you?  illogical13:13
slick0_im talking about HDDs13:13
daftykinshonestly: sure. my intel X25-M G2 developed a bad sector which tripped up the entire OS until i secure erased the drive.13:13
cfhowlettlapt0p, hardware switch effects only the builtin wifi.  sounds like your card may not be read.  do you know the chipset?13:14
honestly15:09:05 < slick0_> its an SSD13:14
mernilioTowards guy like honestly and slick0_ .. They are att the bottom. With more experience.. they will gain more and more creds!13:14
slick0_creds?13:14
slick0_what is a cred?13:14
belljarhonestly, geirha, meanwhile I'm getting sick of this kind of problems. like I said, it happens like once a year lately. are the hard discs so shitty or so sensitive?13:14
cfhowlett!language|belljar,13:15
ubottubelljar,: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.13:15
belljarsorry..13:15
mernilioslick0_: a cred is something  you deserve!13:15
honestlycfhowlett: seriously?13:15
belljarjust being upset13:15
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slick0_is that comunist?13:15
cfhowlettbelljar, understood.  still ... thanks for understanding13:15
mernilioWith that said, didnt hitlel do good things in germany?13:16
slick0_a cred is a religion?13:16
cfhowlett!ops|mernilio,13:16
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slick0_im satanic13:16
slick0_join my satanic army13:16
lapt0p_Nope, not working. If i switch on the internal Wi-Fi card, with the physical slider, i get signal from both, the built-in card, and the USB card. But if i slide the physical slider to off, the both cards are "deaf" :D13:16
geirhabelljar: We don't know for certain it's failing, it could just be the cable is bad, or not properly connected13:17
Wiz_KeeDCould someone please assist in installing an alternative driver for my broadcom wireless card on Ubuntu 12.04 64? At the moment it works if I go to Network and manually select the network but it does not ping and show the wireless networks on startup13:17
mernilioslick0_: i dont think your a bad person. :-)13:17
BluesKajslick0_, you're delusional13:17
cfhowlettlapt0p_, ow.  ok.  new one on me.  perhaps disable via bios switch and reboot.13:17
slick0_lol13:17
slick0_you dont know me13:17
BluesKajyou watch too much craptv13:18
mernilioYou do however have a bad attidtude.13:18
slick0_thats cause people piss me off13:18
mernilioTowards me, your god and mentor!13:18
lapt0p_I've tried the BIOS disable option at start, but i could not find that option in my BIOS setup menu. I will check again, and come back, thanks anyway :)13:18
the_rootswhats up all13:18
merniliohahah :-P13:18
slick0_what god?13:19
slick0_theres no gods13:19
jribmernilio, slick0_: I have no idea what the scrollback is, but lets move the discussion back to ubuntu *support*.  Keep it civil and family-friendly, please.13:19
the_rootsgod is awesome13:19
BluesKajok slick0_ enough13:19
slick0_yu are the delusional one13:19
mernilioBut this is the ubuntu channel. Sorry Guys! I will shut upp now13:19
Wiz_KeeD04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)13:19
jribmernilio: thank you13:19
sam_hso er, anyone here use KVM?13:19
cfhowlettmernilio, and the driver installed during regular install?13:20
Achi||eshi13:20
Hodapphonestly: I'd venture that 'bad blocks' are just as present on SSDs but, below some threshold, and in the same behavior as a spinning disk, they are basically hidden from you.13:20
Achi||esUbuntu 12.04 LTS  OR  13.04 ?13:21
Achi||eswhich one is stable and which one should i use ?13:21
belljarhonestly: could such things happen due to an external attack?13:21
bjoswaldAchi||es, 12.04 is the most stable.13:21
Hodapphonestly: Now, what the behavior is when you have surpassed that threshold, I don't know - but SSDs definitely fail, and at that point the exact way they break the abstraction isn't really relevant - the bad blocks have been made apparent.13:21
cfhowlettAchi||es, 5 years support for LTS ...13:21
Achi||esis it possible to make it Gnome look ?13:21
honestlybelljar: not likely13:22
daftykinsAchi||es: they're both stable, but 13.04 ends support in January, so stick to the LTS release for it to last longer. it means long term support after all13:22
belljarhonestly; but possible?13:22
Achi||eswhy UNITY ? whyyy :/13:22
crocketHow do I turn off compositing in unity?13:22
daftykinsyou guys conversation is off topic13:22
the_rootshas anyone tryed to install ub desktop to a phone/13:22
Achi||esit really sucks13:22
cfhowlettAchi||es, logout.  choose an alternate desktop environment.   login.  done.13:23
slick0_a fend of mine tells m ubunt is a confessinal disto13:23
honestlybelljar: sure, in theory someone could hack into your computer, hack into the fs driver, and get the hard drive's firmware to mark bogus bad sectors13:23
jribslick0_: how is this related to ubuntu support?13:23
cfhowlett!ot|slick0_,13:23
ubottuslick0_,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:23
Achi||escfhowlett ,  there s no gnome anymore13:23
kruxinstall it ?.13:24
cfhowlettAchi||es, things change.  try xubuntu/lubuntu/kubuntu ...13:24
Achi||esthey dont support gnome anymore13:24
slick0_here gnomeuntu13:24
Achi||esubuntu is best13:24
honestlybelljar: but that is extremely unlikely, I'd say13:24
belljarhonestly: a new smart test gave 2 bad sectors. when in disk utility only 1 was shown before. if not bogus, then hard disc is dying?13:24
the_rootsi loke unity a little better.  my mom uses it13:24
the_rootsmore user friendly13:25
Achi||esthe_roots do u use on touch screen ?13:25
the_rootsna i do not13:25
Achi||eshmmmm13:25
the_rootsmake a big difference/13:25
mateus.13:25
honestlybelljar: hard drives have "spare sectors". when sectors die, they are marked as bad and a spare sector is used instead. when the bad sectors show up in SMART, I think that means the spare sectors have been exhausted and you shouldn't rely on your hard drive to work anymore.13:26
Achi||eshow old are u the_roots ?13:26
the_roots2913:26
honestlyI haven't thought about this in quite some time, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong13:26
lapt0pI've checked the BIOS Wi-Fi card disable option, but there is not an option to do that. Other ideas, how could i disable the Wi-Fi internal adapter via the Terminal?13:27
belljarhonestly: when I simply use live usb to copy hard drive to another disk, is it from your experience likely that some data will be already lost (given 2 bad sectors)?13:27
Achi||esok another question is coming13:27
Achi||esis it possible to install ubuntu on Windows 8 ?13:28
lapt0pYeah, why not, lol13:28
cfhowlettAchi||es, via wubi, yes13:28
Achi||esi heard there s no wubi for windows 813:28
honestlybelljar: yes, and normal copying utilities will fail to copy files that intersect that bad sectors13:28
cfhowlettAchi||es, misinformation13:29
the_rootscant u just do ifconfig wlan0 up or down13:29
cfhowlett@who13:30
Achi||escfhowlett , so can u inform me about it ?13:30
belljarhonestly: is there any tool to copy "all" files? or is ddrescue the only tool to do that (else, would testdisk also succeed in doing that?)13:30
cfhowlett!who13:30
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)13:30
cfhowlett!wubi|Achi||es,13:30
Achi||es!wubi13:30
slick0_has this distro been blessed by the pope?13:30
Achi||es?13:30
ubottuAchi||es,: Wubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug13:30
cfhowlettAchi||es, it appears the wubi factoid has been retired ...13:30
cfhowlettoh, there it is.13:30
Achi||escfhowlett  ->  Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays.13:30
Achi||esdisappointed..13:31
cfhowlettAchi||es, ah.  my bad.  you're right, it will not work in win 8.13:31
slick0_Wubi isnt supported anymore13:31
lapt0pMicrosoft made that with an intention :P13:31
Achi||es:p13:31
airtonixlapt0p: wat?13:32
lapt0pInstall it alongside W813:32
airtonix?13:32
lapt0p:airtonix i was kidding13:32
airtonixwubi isn't unsupported because of anything microsoft did. While it may be nice to believe that, the reality is that Wubi was terribad to begin with.13:33
lapt0pYeah, i know, i just said that without deeply thinking if that's the reason :)13:33
=== IsoAnon is now known as Isolol
slick0_can i load linux kernel in uefi mem to be excuted before anythinf else?13:34
lapt0pAnd what is a RAID array?13:34
airtonixslick0_: no idea. are you useing refind ?13:34
cfhowlett!raid|lapt0p, if you don't know, you probably don't need it ...13:34
ubottulapt0p, if you don't know, you probably don't need it ...: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto13:34
slick0_refind?13:34
belljarhonestly; could I rely on testdisk to recover the whole?13:34
belljarI mean to copy13:35
airtonixslick0_: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/13:35
airtonixbelljar: considering there are so many things that could be responsible for corruption, maybe, maybe not.13:35
belljarairtonix, thank you!13:36
lapt0pI don't agree with the statement that if you don't know something, you don't need it. If you learn the purpose of something, you may use it for your needs, and making your life easier.13:36
airtonixlapt0p: then perhaps you'd like to investigate btrfs or linux_zfs13:36
slick0_http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/asus-p5e3-deluxe-mobo-boots-in-five-seconds-with-embedded-linux/13:37
slick0_i guess they give up on that13:37
belljartesdt13:39
Jakeywhy can't i find php5-fcgi /usr/lib/cgi-bin/13:41
Jakeywhy can't i find php5-fcgi in /usr/lib/cgi-bin/13:41
lapt0pFrom what i've read on Wiki, RAID should be a slow entity with it's type of functioning :D13:41
lapt0pis it?13:41
honestlybelljar: no, testdisk doesn't do that.13:42
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slick0_testdisk can change your drives geometry13:43
belljarhonestly, ddrescue didnt help an inch last time (or I did something missing/wrong), though it ran 3 days day and night..13:43
honestlybelljar: ddrescue doesn't fix your hard drive, it just creates a backup image13:43
bwayneI'm configuring dnscrypt, yet when I attempt to run with -edns-payload-size=4096 (or 2048 or 1024 or 512) I get "Invalid EDNS payload size". Any insights?13:44
belljarhonestly, yes, I mean that. it created no image.13:44
belljaror whatever it created wasn't interpretable afterwards13:44
honestlybelljar: please read the documentation for ddrescue13:44
Gamer1990hello13:45
blazemoreikonia,13:45
belljarhonestly, I think I wont go into that again. I have a backup from 2 weeks ago, which is not the best, but I will have to risk any losses at copying now13:45
ikoniablazemore: huh, yes ?13:45
slick0_sudo photorec imagefilename13:45
slick0_thats all you need13:46
honestlybelljar: at any rate, you should replace your hard drive13:46
blazemorejust that13:46
BluesKaj!who | slick0_13:46
ubottuslick0_: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)13:46
slick0_i was talking to belljar hacker13:46
belljarhonestly; rephrasing my ranting just recently, are hard disks too sensitive or too crappy, that I've had this with 2 different computers in a year13:46
belljar?13:47
Gamer1990i want to know how to access my windows remote desktop from (L)Ubuntu13:47
ikoniablazemore: did you want me ?13:47
cfhowlett!samba|Gamer1990,13:47
ubottuGamer1990,: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.13:47
cfhowlett!remote13:48
cfhowlett!vinagre13:48
Gamer1990huh?13:48
slick0_a friend of mine tells me linux is just something you toy in a VM13:48
m_k_t_6Remmina Remote Desktop Client?13:49
Johnny_Linuxslick0_  97% of the worlds fastest computers run it.13:49
slick0_so maybe my computer isnt fast engugh13:49
ikoniaslick0_: are you actually having a problem ?13:49
cfhowlettslick0_, problem located between the keyboard and the display?13:50
Gamer1990apt-get install "?" Remmina Remote Desktop Client ?13:50
slick0_im never going back to dependecy hell13:50
ikoniaslick0_: are you actually having a problem ?13:51
AlanBellGamer1990: it is just sudo apt-get install remmina13:51
slick0_if i say no will you give me one?13:51
ikoniaslick0_: just tell the truth13:51
slick0_can you handle the truth?13:52
BluesKajhe has a problem alright , but it has nothing to do with ubuntu :)13:52
Wiz_KeeDhello ikonia, nice to see you, saturday not off? :))13:52
ikoniaslick0_: ok - lets make this clear, this channel is for ubuntu support, so unless you have something you need help with to do with ubuntu, or can help someone else, please stop the comments13:52
slick0_im help felow ubuntu users13:52
rajathow can i connect my c code from geany to ui in glade13:53
ikoniaslick0_: ok, then help them, without the other comments please13:53
Gamer1990i'm running Vinagre13:53
Gamer1990my address for the system is 192.168.2.1113:53
Gamer1990i believe the port is 338913:54
wl大家好啊13:54
cfhowlettGamer1990, for vinagre, you must be on the same network ... I don't know details beyond that13:54
cfhowlett!cn|wl,13:54
ubottuwl,: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw13:54
Gamer1990english wl?13:54
Gamer1990i am13:54
wl有没有中国人?13:55
slick0_ballsdeep?13:55
Wiz_KeeDikonia, i'm continuing my research for the drivers of the wireless card, aparently from the range of broadcom drivers the one I have installed is the only one that supports my card13:55
AlanBellGamer1990: port is more normally 5900 or 590113:55
cfhowlett!ops|slick0_,13:55
ubottuslick0_,: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!13:55
Gamer1990i don't run VNC13:55
wlanbody is chinese?13:56
AlanBellGamer1990: if you are running vinagre, then you are :)13:56
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: that doesn't surprise me, as they are quite fussy in terms of driver version + firmware + supported card13:56
Gamer1990my server isn't though13:56
Wiz_KeeDAlanBell, nice to see you! :)13:56
m_k_t_6Gamer1990: If you're connecting Windows Remote Desktop, then port is 338913:56
AlanBellhi Wiz_KeeD :)13:57
Gamer1990my server that i'm trying to is a windows server os13:57
AlanBellok, so it will be running RDP perhaps, if that service is active13:57
Wiz_KeeDikonia, I will do some more research and whenever I get a lead I will come check with you guys here is you can spare a few minutes13:57
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: people will always spare time, more so if you are helping yourself13:57
antarwhy is gwibber not working ?13:58
Gamer1990!ops |Gamer199013:58
ubottuGamer1990, please see my private message13:58
antarguys why is gwibber not working13:59
lapt0pCan someone recommend me a book for Linux Basics? Book which will give me a good general image of the key elements of the OS.13:59
Mondayhow do you setup internet passthrough?14:00
AlanBelllapt0p: there is the ubuntu manual project which is quite good http://ubuntu-manual.org/ it is written in book form14:00
BluesKajMonday, how do you mean internet passthrough?14:00
lapt0pThanks :)14:00
ikonia.14:01
antarikonia14:01
ikoniaantar: yes ?14:02
MondayBluesKaj i'm trying to make my phone connect to the internet via the computer14:02
ikonia!ics  Monday14:02
ikoniaoops,14:02
ikonia!ics | Monday14:02
ubottuMonday: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing14:02
antarikonia, why is gwibber not working ?14:02
ikoniaantar: I have no idea.14:02
antarikonia, heh default package and not working where is the power of open source here ?14:04
Mondayikonia is it possible to create a hotspot if the computer just has 1 wifi adapter?14:04
Wiz_KeeDIf I do bzr branch lp:x dir bzr branch lp:y dir2 bzr branch lp:z dir 3 with && between will they be runned one after another?14:04
ikoniaantar: depends what the actual problem is14:04
ikoniaMonday: sure14:04
antarikonia, a programming problem :).14:04
Mondayis there a turtorial for that?14:04
ikoniaantar: you don't know that14:05
AlanBell!details | antar14:05
ubottuantar: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:05
ikoniaantar: try explaining the problem to the channel14:05
ikoniaantar: get a better description of the issue beyond "it's not working"14:05
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zexcrizis it very complicated thing to have LDAP and kerberos together as an authentication system ?14:07
antarikonia, it is a real bug on ubuntu and not a personal problem there is nobody using gwibber now14:07
ikoniaantar: is there a bug logged ?14:07
antarYeah14:07
ikoniaantar: and it seems odd that you can know no-one is using it.14:07
ikoniaantar: ok, so if you know there is a bug, why are you asking me what's wrong ?14:08
dre_hey guys14:08
AlanBellantar: it is now called the friends app, and not gwibber, maybe that is why nobody uses gwibber. I am currently using friends.14:08
antarikonia, i am asking for redebuging the app :)14:08
antarAlanBell, is it an alternative14:09
ikoniaantar: there you go, AlanBell has just explained the name for the new version14:09
AlanBellantar: there is no bug, unless you have a bug number, or some specific details of the problem14:09
Wiz_KeeDBy using bzr banch lp:package dir & bzr banchlp:package 2 dir it created both dirs and aatempted do start all at once14:09
Wiz_KeeDis that normal?14:09
antarikonia, thats not a new version thats a new app14:09
Wiz_KeeDShouldn't it wait to finnish execution?14:09
jribWiz_KeeD: yes.  & backgrounds the first process14:09
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ikoniaantar: the new version of the "tool" then14:09
antarhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/227379/gwibber-window-is-blank14:10
jribWiz_KeeD: try && if you only want the second command to run if the first one is successful.  Try ; if you want the second one to run after the first one regardless of how the first one exits14:10
antarthats the problem14:10
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ikoniaantar: you know gwibber is broke - you said there is a bug logged, so why are you posting ask ubuntu links ?14:10
antarit should not be a default package14:10
ikoniaantar: work on the bug14:10
antarikonia, ok ok sorry14:11
antari will try friends if workingù14:11
cloneGhello using shift+control+printScreen I get the selection cursor to border select the screenshot area and when I do it makes the snapshot sound but I cant find the snapshots in my system...when I take the snapshot using the menu I can choose the destination folder and I then can find the snapshots taken...why the shortcut is  not working?14:11
antar14:11
belgianguywhat are the unity tile menus called?14:11
Wiz_KeeDjrib, so command1 &&; means do after it finishes regardless if it crashed or not?14:11
belgianguyif you right click on a tile, you get <>14:11
jribWiz_KeeD: no.14:11
AlanBellantar: it isn't a default package, it was rewritten/replaced as "friends"14:12
antarAlanBell, is it working on 12.10 ??14:12
dre_one key run a shell script14:12
antarok14:12
dre_can someone help14:12
Eduard_MunteanuIs there any issue / bug report filed for the official website (www.ubuntu.com) not providing checksums securely? Should I send an email to webmaster@ubuntu.com (but I think those aren't logged publicly)?14:12
Andre_designerhow can i set volume controle from my keyboard in small steps in ubuntu??14:12
ikoniaEduard_Munteanu: not providing them securely ?14:12
AlanBellantar: not sure, I am running 13.10, but I think it was fine in 13.04 as well14:12
cloneGdre_ ctrl+alt+t14:13
Wiz_KeeDjrib, how do i stop all the procceses once i've started them with & not &&?14:13
jribEduard_Munteanu: they are provided securely though?14:13
jribmd5sums are at least14:13
antarAlanBell, i cant see on the Software center14:13
Eduard_Munteanujrib: if you're talking about the wiki page, that's an issue in itself14:13
Wiz_KeeDbrb14:13
ikoniaEduard_Munteanu: could you explain what you mean a bit clearer please14:13
jribWiz_KeeD: google "bash job control".  You can use "kill %JOB_NUMBER".  You can use "jobs" to list running jobs14:13
dre_any help14:14
jribEduard_Munteanu: explain?14:14
belgianguyanyone know what the menus are called in Unity?14:14
AlanBellantar: ah, looks like friends was introduced in Raring (13.04)14:14
Eduard_Munteanuikonia, jrib: www.ubuntu.com has no HTTPS support, so checking hashes is rather useless if you can't verify their authenticity14:14
Andre_designerhow can i set volume controle from my keyboard in smaller steps in ubuntu??14:14
jribEduard_Munteanu: see the wiki page you just referred to14:14
AlanBellbelgianguy: they are called "menus" and the ones on the right are "indicators"14:14
Eduard_Munteanujrib: I know, but shouldn't ubuntu.com provide them officially?14:15
belgianguyAlanBell: thanks!14:15
karab44hello14:15
karab44Can I explore windows filesystem on ubuntu 13.04 by default?14:15
Eduard_MunteanuI was curious if this has been reported before and what Canonical's answer was.14:15
jribEduard_Munteanu: well the gpg sig is made available on the releases page14:15
blob4000hi all! i'm having an issue in Unity where anytime I go to save or open something from my Home folder, the save/open window shows all of my .hidden files in my ~ directory. i don't remember turning this on, but would love to know how to reverse it. thanks!14:16
TommyBhey guys, can anyone think of a particular reason why a hdd would be showing up under "OS" in home folder but won't show up when i want to install?14:16
Eduard_Munteanujrib: yeah, but you still need to verify the key's fingerprint14:16
jribEduard_Munteanu: you need to establish a web of trust for the gpg key, sure14:16
TommyBwindows installer can't detect the hdd, nor can ubuntu installer14:16
TommyBbut when booting off the CD i can access all of the files14:16
Andre_designeranyone??14:16
ikoniaTommyB: unsupported raid controller ?14:16
ikoniaTommyB: (random guess with no info)14:17
Eduard_Munteanujrib: most users can't do that, making https a better-than-nothing option for bootstrapping that web of trust14:17
TommyBikonia: well i do have a hdd/ssd combo where the ssd caches for it... you think that's the reason?14:17
jribEduard_Munteanu: i don't know what the official stance is.  All I know is that the md5sums are on the wiki served over https if you want to trust your CA and the hashes on the releases website are signed with gpg14:17
BluesKajTommyB, is the hdd formatted to any FS ?14:17
AlanBellAndre_designer: I have 17 steps from zero to full, is that what you have?14:17
TommyBBluesKaj: NTFS14:17
bwayneAndre_designer: you could try binding a keyboard shortcut to 'amixer -c 0 set Master 2dB+' or something similar. haven't tried that in ubuntu, though.14:17
ikoniaTommyB: depends how thats setup, but possible, sure14:17
TommyBit has a windows install on it that stopped booting14:17
TommyBikonia: i don't THINK that's it because i even tried loading the drivers directly from the resources CD for the windows install14:18
TommyBstill couldn't recognize it14:18
Andre_designertry that but doesn't work14:18
TommyBthis is pretty brutal, i REALLY don't want to have to send this in -_-14:18
Andre_designerbut will try again14:18
blob4000I solved the problem by pressing Ctrl + H, FYI: This was my original question "i'm having an issue in Unity where anytime I go to save or open something from my Home folder, the save/open window shows all of my .hidden files in my ~ directory. i don't remember turning this on, but would love to know how to reverse it. thanks!"14:18
BluesKajTommyB, what about a live media partitoner like gparted ?14:19
TommyBgood call, can't believe i didn't try that14:19
lapt0pWhat kind of activities am i allowed to do, to contribute to the Ubuntu/Linux community?  :D14:19
AlanBellEduard_Munteanu: I don't think https would make a huge amount of difference, it would guard against a man in the middle attack, but wouldn't do anything to prevent someone compromising the box and putting in a different sum, but the GPG key would prevent that14:19
TommyBBluesKaj: i'll try reformatting with gparted and get back to you14:19
lapt0pWhat kind of activities am i allowed to do(*as a beginner), to contribute to the Ubuntu/Linux community?  :D14:19
BluesKajTommyB, well have a look at least14:19
jribEduard_Munteanu: I think I looked once for related bugs and found one related to the fact the md5sums page was editable by everyone.  So if you find that, you can check for related bugs and maybe file one asking about the rationale14:19
Eduard_MunteanuAlanBell: obviously the checksums should be hosted by a trusted Canonical machine.14:20
ikonialapt0p: anything you are capable of14:20
Eduard_MunteanuOh, hm.14:20
ikonialapt0p: sky is the limit14:20
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TommyBBluesKaj: gparted detected it, had an exclamation point by the OS partition so obviously something was up14:20
lapt0p:ikonia Some examples, please? I am still kind of new ..14:20
TommyBdeleted the partitions, going to try to reformat now and see if that allows an install14:20
Eduard_MunteanuAlanBell: yes, it prevents MITMs, but that's the main reason for SSL/TLS. I only need to trust the CA plus Canonical.14:21
AlanBellEduard_Munteanu: sure, but I think the GPG key is the thing that guards against the more realistic threat, as well as the esoteric one14:21
BluesKajTommyB, ok , looks like there was a problem14:21
ikonialapt0p: anything from updating documentation, helping other people, translations, through to fixing bugs and writing new software, anything you are capable of doing14:21
jribEduard_Munteanu: not the bug i was referring to, but here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/245953 .  Looks like checking ubuntu-website bugs for https or hashes or md5sums might help.  And if nothing there addresses your concerns you can always file a new one14:21
ubottuUbuntu bug 245953 in Ubuntu Website "Publish hashes stronger than MD5 for isos: sha-256 and whirlpool, " [Wishlist,Fix released]14:21
Eduard_MunteanuAlanBell: yeah, I don't like the CA system either, but for many users it's the only option to trust-on-first-use the CAs and bootstrap their web of trust.14:22
Eduard_Munteanujrib: oh, thanks, so there is a bug tracker for www.ubuntu.com14:22
jribEduard_Munteanu: yep14:22
terre_de_cielhello ici et a + je fesais juste un essai14:22
TommyBBluesKaj: but even after that, deleted the partitions and created a 100GB ext4 partition which shows as /dev/sda1 or whatever14:23
TommyBit won't see it in the installer?14:23
MonkeyDust!fr14:23
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.14:23
AlanBellyes, it is a reasonable feature request, however they wouldn't want to serve up isos over https, and there are logistical advantages to serving the hashes and isos together, but do go read the bug and file another if appropriate14:23
bwayneAndre_designer: have you tried this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/10525/how-can-i-make-the-volume-change-in-smaller-increments  ?14:24
TommyBwait says unmounted, trying to mount now14:24
TommyBaaaand it refuses14:24
TommyBwtf.14:24
Andre_designerokay i try that!!14:24
Eduard_MunteanuAlanBell: yeah, serving ISOs won't help much because using 3rd party mirrors is an advantage for users too. They should only serve checksums and/or GPG keys or their fingerprints at the very least.14:24
BluesKajTommyB, still have  problem after format to ext ?14:25
TommyBBluesKaj: it still won't show in the installer14:25
TommyBand it says unmounted in gparted14:25
TommyBso i right click it from explorer and click mount, nothing happens14:25
belgianguyis firefox.desktop maintained by Mozilla?14:27
BluesKajTommyB, hmm, bad sector perhaps , but usually there's a notification14:27
TommyBBluesKaj: well it finally mounted, took forever, lemme see in installer...14:27
TommyBLOL still doesn't show up14:28
TommyBwhat, in the asdlfja;sldkfjdf #$*&#$%R# is up with this14:28
AlanBellEduard_Munteanu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes14:28
AlanBellEduard_Munteanu: that is an immutable page, I can't edit it14:28
TommyBdrive mounted, shows as /dev/sda1, 100GB ext2 partition, refuses to install to it14:28
TommyBgoing to try to restart because i'm running out of ideas14:28
TommyBbrb14:28
Eduard_MunteanuAlanBell: hm, so it is immutable, I was wondering about that. I'd still file a bug though, they should really host them officially.14:29
AlanBellEduard_Munteanu: #acl AdminGroup:read,write,delete,revert,admin All:read         <- first line of the raw text of the page shows it is only editable by the wiki admin14:30
Eduard_MunteanuOh, hm.14:30
MondayBluesKaj i'm trying to make my phone connect to the internet via USB to the computer14:31
AlanBellMonday: the key phrase you need to search for is "reverse tether"14:32
BluesKajMonday, ok , I have no knowledge about that , thought you were trying to connect to the 'net with using network manager14:32
ocooelO:-)14:32
BluesKajwithout14:32
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MondayAlanBell is there an app to achieve it?14:35
dougielcan someone tell me how to blacklist my rtl8192cu so I can install the realtek drivers?14:36
SuperDefenderXUbuntu 12.04 is stuck at Pylmouth boot... just hangs on loading dots.14:37
dougielI think that is what http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1949810 was beating around the bush saying?14:38
AlanBellMonday: sorry, I don't know the current details, might be something to install on the phone (which probably needs to be rooted), take a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=228749414:38
dougielIf someone could reflect on my conclusion I'd appreciate it.14:38
MondayAlanBell the already has reverse tethering capability it just needs to be setup on ubuntu somehow, probably with a script or something14:39
ngomeshello, who knows how phased upgrades works ?14:41
ngomesbeyond what's being told on blogs14:42
BluesKajngomes, phased upgrades  ..how do you mean ?14:43
peaceblasterCan anyone here help me with getting ssh set up with public keys? I've copied over my pub key but it makes me password login anyway14:43
MondayAlanBell acutally i think i just need to set it up in the network manager somehow14:43
ngomesBluesKaj, ubuntu now uses Phased updades ... 10 per cent of users will get the updates if no problem is found another 10% and so  on ...14:44
linuxthefishcool14:45
linuxthefishwhat is there is problems then?14:45
BluesKajngomes, since when ?14:45
jribpeaceblaster: use ssh-copy-id14:45
ngomesBluesKaj, it was written since 13.0414:45
peaceblasterDidn't know that command existed... thanks!14:45
ngomesi wanted to know how ubuntu chooses who is the first 10% and so on14:46
kerloiHi all. I'm trying to install ubuntu on my new laptop. Windows 8 is installed on it and I want to replace it completely. I have read the uefi documentation and I disabled the quick boot and secure boot but when I use my live usb, grub starts, I choose start ubuntu and the I have a black screen ...14:47
belljarhonestly, thank you very much for your help!14:47
Achi||espeople, is there any PuTTy like program for ubuntu ?14:47
peaceblasterssh?14:48
peaceblastersftp?14:48
ngomesAchi||es, what DE are you on ?14:48
Achi||esboth14:48
Achi||esssh - telnet - sftp14:48
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Achi||esif i install ubuntu how will i manage my bots ?14:48
peaceblasterfound this https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/oneiric/putty/14:48
jribpeaceblaster: use "ssh" in a terminal14:48
Achi||esi ll need PuTTy , WinSCP14:48
jribAchi||es: use "ssh" in a terminal14:49
kerloiIf I use a linux mint usb disk it starts but my touchpad doesn't works correctly ...14:49
jrib!mint | kerloi14:49
ubottukerloi: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org14:49
ngomesuse terminal and filezillaa .. it suports SFTP and SSH14:49
zykotick9peaceblaster: fyi, there is putty in the repo as well...14:49
belljara likely reason that comes to my mind is that the PC screen has been often greying lately when multiple programs were open. could this be a reason for hard disk to get bad sectors?14:49
peaceblasterI was just trying to help out, my install has no xorg lol14:49
kerloijrib: Yes I know it was just to say that my laptop is able to boot an an external usb device with a linux on it14:49
Achi||esjrib is it possible to ssh and telnet in terminal ?14:49
jribAchi||es: yes14:49
jribkerloi: i'm not sure what your question is14:50
belljarrecently this happened even when the number of open processes were lower than the PC normally handles.14:50
bs_how to update wine14:50
MonkeyDustbs_  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade14:50
BartlomiejBhi.14:50
jrib!nomodeset | kerloi14:52
ubottukerloi: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter14:52
kerloijrib: I'm just completely lost that's the first time I'm facing such a problem : blackscreen at startup and I can collect any informations to know why. My usb ubuntu disk can start in a virtual box but with a lot of bugs. I want to get r id of windows and install ubuntu14:52
jribkerloi: yeah, I missed your question before and just read the linux comment.  But try nomodeset14:53
kerloiubottu: thx I'll check if the option is on14:53
BartlomiejBI tried to upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 - I've done do-release-upgrade. now I have this: http://pastebin.com/0B881U9C14:53
BartlomiejBany hints what I can do now?14:53
BartlomiejBs/I can/can I/14:54
crocketflashplugin-installer failed to download http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.297.orig.tar.gz14:55
crocketSo I can't see flash files on web browsers.14:55
BartlomiejB(I added LC_ALL=C only to get messages in English)14:55
BartlomiejBany help?14:56
BartlomiejBcrocket: BTW - the lates is .310.14:57
BartlomiejBs/lates/latest/14:57
crocketBartlomiejB, Does it mean I have to execute "apt-get update"?14:57
crocketBartlomiejB, flashplugin-installer is broken.14:58
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BartlomiejBdid anyone do upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04?15:03
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fidelBartlomiejB: yep - when 12.04 was released - worked without issues. and i bet several others did that as wel ...dont know how that helps on the other side ;)15:05
techstormhello15:05
BongoXi wiped the drive and installed it on my eee 900... works great15:08
BongoXwell ok, i am using xubuntu and love it so much15:09
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mdghbrhnif I want to learn how to manage my VPS using ubuntu where to begin ?15:09
Ari-Yangmdghbrhn, I'm not quite sure, but you could start by googling yourself guides for managing VPS on ubuntu15:10
bekksmdghbrhn: Install a virtual machine with ubuntu, and start.15:10
jribmdghbrhn: get a vps with ubuntu?  Read help.ubuntu.com server guide?15:10
bekks!beginner | mdghbrhn15:11
bekkshmm.15:11
mdghbrhnactually I tried many tutorials and each time I screw the vps for a reason, which I do not know15:12
jribmdghbrhn: depending on how adventurous you are, you may want to use a vm to experiment first as bekks suggests15:12
mdghbrhnI've a cheap vps for 5 usd per month to learn ot it15:12
jribmdghbrhn: i didn't say to read many tutorials, stick to official documentation (first ubuntu's then cross-reference with the project's).  If they disagree, ask for help.15:12
mdghbrhnand have another VPS for the real website15:12
jribmdghbrhn: save 5 bucks and use a vm for learning15:13
mdghbrhnjrib: honestly I know very few about linux and I want to learn but I will only use it for the vps but confused about what to learn15:13
jribmdghbrhn: what do you want to do?15:14
mdghbrhnjrib: I really want to learn and I do not have any special preferences for the distribution because all are the same for me15:14
jribmdghbrhn: learn to do *what*?15:14
mdghbrhnjrib: I want to setup the vps , secure the ssh, secure access the ssh, setup lemp, add my websites15:15
jribmdghbrhn: what does "setup the vps" mean?15:15
mdghbrhnjrib: I do not know if using a back end control panel is any good or I should do everything using cli15:15
bekksmdghbrhn: Do you setup the vps? Or do you just get the vps?15:16
mdghbrhnjrib: I mean I click deploy the linux distribution like ubuntu or what ever, then access it usnig ssh client15:16
bekksmdghbrhn: Do you want tp provision vps to others?15:16
jribmdghbrhn: yeah, if you're buying a vps, I'm not sure what else you would do.15:17
mdghbrhnbekks: no it is just a one click image distribution deployment15:17
pseudonymousDoes anyone use AppArmor for nginx ? Does anyone use AppArmor at all ?15:17
bekksmdghbrhn: Then you cant deploy your vps with "clicking in the panel".15:17
jribpseudonymous: :)15:17
pseudonymousI'm unable to find an nginx profile for apparmor, and I'm apparently unable to write it myself short of "capability dac_override" which reads as a blanket "do whatever the hell you want with my files" - rendering the entire idea moot15:18
jrib!apparmor15:19
ubottuFor information about the AppArmor security framework employed in Ubuntu (since Gutsy Gibbon), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor15:19
jribpseudonymous: that may or may not be useful to you15:19
mdghbrhnbekks: jrib: like this http://i.imgur.com/0wsko6n.png15:19
jribmdghbrhn: sure, that's fine.  Seems like you can cross that item off your list of things to learn15:19
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belgianguyis the login system down for Ubuntu One and related services?15:20
belljarhello again! there are 2 bad sectors on my PC's hard drive as we just talked about. could following problems be related to this; 1. screen often greying (temporary freeze) when only 2-3 programs are open. 2. programs don't close just on clicking "X" (close) symbol on the top left of the window, instead takes longer or often follows "force quit" window.15:20
bekksbelljar: Yes, maybe.15:20
pseudonymousjrib: yea, I've been there already though :) Which reminds me there's a bug - somehow apparmor-profiles installs a bunch of profile files, removing the package does not remove the profiles again.. Grrr what a load of cap15:20
pseudonymouscrap*15:20
gabeapphi15:21
jribpseudonymous: that's probably not a bug.  Do « dpkg -S /path/to/a/file/you/think/should/be/removed »15:21
gabeappi have an issue, can anyone help me out?15:21
MonkeyDustgabeapp  start with a question15:21
bekksgabeapp: How can we know, without you telling us the details?15:21
jribgabeapp: our resident telepath is out, so you'll have to tell us your issue :)15:21
pseudonymousjrib: it was listed when I did "dpkg -L apparmor-profiles" though15:21
gabeappokok15:21
jribpseudonymous: if it's a configuration file, then you'd have to purge the package15:22
belljarbekks, thank you for your reply. these things began happening recently, earlier it would take really many windows to be open for this to happen, which was expectable for a machine with an earlier generation of processors.15:22
gabeappi just installed ubuntu on my ssd but it always hangs when i stop doing something, but when i have a terminal window open i get an I/O error15:23
gabeapplike every command i get an I/O error15:23
bekksgabeapp: Then get a new harddisk.15:23
KitchenerJamIs there a channel for ubuntuGlobalJam participants?15:23
gabeappeven if it is just a random bubnch of letters15:23
gabeappand the ssd is only like 2 weeks old15:23
BongoXdid you format th disk? which filesystem did you choose?15:23
gabeappext415:23
pseudonymousHmm, I guess I can chalk AppArmor up to being a cutesy little idea that's apparently not meant to be used. There's a curious lack of profile examples online, Ubuntu doesn't ship one for nginx, only about the most popular web server software for high-traffic sites. :( Oh well.15:24
BongoXjournaling file systems stress SSDs... better use ext215:24
bekksgabeapp: Pastebin "dmesg" please.15:24
bekksBongoX: Thats total FUD.15:24
bekksBongoX: Sorry for the clear words.15:24
mdghbrhnjiriki: http://i.imgur.com/cyaUstz.png15:24
bekksBongoX: Do you know what a journal actually is for?15:24
BongoXi do15:25
jribpseudonymous: you've tried generating your own profile?15:25
BongoXbekks: so what can he do about his brand-new, broken disk?15:26
jribpseudonymous: there's apparently a #apparmor on irc.oftc.net you can try15:26
bekksBongoX: Return it and get a new one.15:26
BongoXk15:26
gabeappok pastebin.com/Vm4SRPcq15:26
bekksgabeapp: There is no sign of your disk being broken. Boot a live cd and run fsck -f on all filesystems.15:27
pseudonymousjrib: yea I have, but nginx doesn't launch a full server unless you specify a config file etc - so aa-logprof / aa-genprof just holds your hand in building a profile for launching nginx to check its syntax… And it's suggesting 'capability dac_override' - which, reading "man 7 capabilities" entails giving the app full access to disregard access permissions -- which defeats the idea of sandboxing to begin with15:28
jribpseudonymous: i see15:28
LeafManI have some graphic glitches with NVidia drivers on my Windows 8 system, does anyone know that behavior? the screen goes blac sometimes15:29
Wiz-KeeDGuys, i've check the installed packages and it seems to show me these are installed: http://pastie.org/832561115:29
Wiz-KeeDShould both be there?15:29
bekksLeafMan: This isnt windows support :)15:29
gabeappi know the disk isnt broken, like i will watch a youtube video then if i dont have another video to watch after the system will hang15:29
LeafManbekks: ,,|,,15:29
RoryLeafMan, /join ##windows15:29
Wiz-KeeDidk what rc and ii mean at the beginnign15:29
bekksgabeapp: How do you know it?15:29
LeafManRory: ,,|,,15:29
bekksgabeapp: How did you check your disk?15:29
RoryLeafMan, is that supposed to be what I think it is?15:29
LeafManRory: ?15:30
LeafManIt is ASCII art15:30
RoryAnd what does it represent?15:30
LeafManand means: oh sorry, I didn't notice I am in the wrong channel15:30
RoryGood that's what I thought it meant15:30
bekksLeafMan: Do you have an ubuntu support question, or do you just troll?15:30
LeafManah yes, and go fuck yourself15:30
gabeappbecause when i switched to a terminal window it gave me an I/O error, the terminal window was already open15:30
gabeapplike when i type a random bunch of letters it said i?O error15:31
bekksgabeapp: Did you check your harddisk for errors?15:31
BongoXholy cow15:31
bekksgabeapp: If not, then you dont know wether it is broken or not.15:31
gabeappTHE DRIVE ISNT BROKEN15:31
gabeappcaps**15:32
bekksDONT SHOUT AT US.15:32
gabeappi didnt mean to15:32
gabeappi hit the caps lock by accident15:32
bekksgabeapp: If you know better, good luck. I already told you what to do.15:32
gabeappi never said i know better, thats why i am here15:33
BongoXno... i won't tell sth. about streaming video, swappiness and noatime...15:33
bekksgabeapp: However, you've been told what to do, and you dont answer simple yes/no questions. Good luck.15:34
mdghbrhnI want to setup the vps following this tutorial here: => http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-nginx-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-315:34
mdghbrhnor you could suggest a better back end control panel15:34
jribmdghbrhn: you're ignoring my advice :/15:34
gabeappi am booting the live cd to check the disk15:35
Wiz-KeeDHey guys, I have the Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01) network card on my laptop and firmware-b43-lpphy-installer driver installed15:35
mdghbrhnjrib: it seems that I lost some lines to read, please may you copy it once again :)15:35
Wiz-KeeDThe wireless seems to work okay but it does not detect my networks automatically on startup, can someone suggest a fix/alternative to this problem/driver?15:35
jribmdghbrhn: i didn't say to read many tutorials, stick to official documentation (first ubuntu's then cross-reference with the project's).  If they disagree, ask for help.15:36
gabeappcould it be a problem becuase i am dual booting?15:36
bekksgabeapp: No.15:36
gabeappok good15:36
gabeappthanks15:36
BongoXno.15:36
piggazoidi have some sound issues with skype and steam, only one wants to output sound at a time, anybody know how to make this work?15:36
mdghbrhnjrib: you mean this one here: = https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html15:37
zimbois it possoible to have a separate password for imap and smtp using thunderbird on ubuntu? my email account has a separate password for each, so i can't send mail, need to know where the setting is? it isn't easy to find15:37
RoryWiz-KeeD, Can you please find the name of your wireless device by running the command "iwconfig" - it will be similar to wlan015:37
jribmdghbrhn: sure.  Or the guides at help.ubuntu.com/community and the guides on whatever software you are trying configure's official website.15:37
Wiz-KeeDSure Rory, that would be: http://pastie.org/832563215:38
jribmdghbrhn: i am not surprised that you end up with a broken system after you try to follow this guide at howtoforge15:38
jribmdghbrhn: you said you wanted to setup ssh securely.  See ubottu's page on ssh:15:39
jrib!ssh | mdghbrhn15:39
ubottumdghbrhn: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)15:39
RoryWiz-KeeD, Please use the command: "gksu gedit /etc/pm/power.d/wireless" this will open a blank text editor15:39
jribmdghbrhn: you said you wanted to setup lamp.  After you're done reading about ssh, see ubottu's page on lamp:15:39
jrib!lamp | mdghbrhn15:39
ubottumdghbrhn: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.15:39
Wiz-KeeDWhat is that for Rory?15:39
mdghbrhnjiriki: but if I will use it only for the vps do I need to know all these info about hardware ...etc15:39
zimbois it possoible to have a separate password for imap and smtp using thunderbird on ubuntu? my email account has a separate password for each, so i can't send mail, need to know where the setting is? it isn't easy to find15:39
zimbois it possoible to have a separate password for imap and smtp using thunderbird on ubuntu? my email account has a separate password for each, so i can't send mail, need to know where the setting is? it isn't easy to find15:39
zimbois it possoible to have a separate password for imap and smtp using thunderbird on ubuntu? my email account has a separate password for each, so i can't send mail, need to know where the setting is? it isn't easy to find15:39
FloodBot1zimbo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:39
RoryWiz-KeeD, Then put this into it http://paste.ubuntu.com/6106638/15:39
bekkszimbo: ignore set.15:39
Wiz-KeeDRory, will you attempt to manually conduct a search when the wireless card boots?15:40
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RoryWiz-KeeD, I want to try disabling your Wireless power-save mode15:40
zimbooops sorry that was unintentional15:40
Wiz-KeeDCan't I do that manually from the console or...15:40
Wiz-KeeDYou think that's the issue that is not scanning the cards?15:40
RoryYes you can, run that sbin command once15:40
Wiz-KeeDikonia, any thoughts?15:40
RoryIt's possible Wiz-KeeD I want to rule it out15:40
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mdghbrhnjrib: I read that nginx is light then apache ... is this right or wrong ?15:41
bekksmdghbrhn: Depends on the configuration.15:41
mdghbrhnbekks: you mean webserver configurations?15:42
bekksmdghbrhn: Correct.15:42
Wiz_KeeDok Rory i'll try that though I am a bit scheptical15:42
Wiz_KeeD:-s15:42
RorySo am I, but I want to rule it out.15:42
mdghbrhnbekks: I will add 3 or 4 websites to the vps , will use drupal, wordpress, and phpbb15:42
bekksmdghbrhn: Which doesnt tell us a single detail about the configuration.15:43
mdghbrhnbekks: jrib honestly I feel lost with all these info and all these details :(15:43
Wiz_KeeDRory, ok added it, now what15:44
Wiz_KeeDreboot?15:44
bekksmdghbrhn: Unless you do know what you are doing, you should start with the very well documented apache webserver.15:45
RoryWiz_KeeD, Yes15:45
mdghbrhnbekks: I want to use nginx15:45
EdwardSnowdenmdghbrhn, nginx is pretty good15:46
gabeappBongoX:  whats the command to check the disk?15:46
mdghbrhnEdwardSnowden: what I read is that it is very light compared to apache, honestly I do not know for real the differences but this is what I got from goggling stuffs :(15:47
EdwardSnowdenmdghbrhn, It's much lighter than apache from my experience. Many people switch from apache to nginx because of that15:47
zimbois it possoible to have a separate password for imap and smtp using thunderbird on ubuntu? my email account has a separate password for each, so i can't send mail, need to know where the setting is? it isn't easy to find15:47
Wiz_KeeDEdwardSnowden, still working on the wireless to get it fixed properly, any advice on working wireless that does not detect the networks but otherwise seems to work fine?15:48
mdghbrhnEdwardSnowden: this is what I read too and this is the reason I want to use it15:48
Eduard_MunteanuAlanBell, jrib, ikonia: I filed a bug after all: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/122544215:48
ubottuUbuntu bug 1225442 in Ubuntu Website "Checksums/keys should be hosted officially and on HTTPS" [Undecided,New]15:48
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, What you haven't fixed it yet?15:48
mdghbrhndoes there is a guide for what to do 1st and then 2nd ...etc15:48
EdwardSnowdenmdghbrhn, Use it then15:48
Wiz_KeeDNot fully EdwardSnowden, luck is not my best friend apparently15:49
bekksmdghbrhn: Do you want to use nginx because you know why or do you just think its more cool? :)15:49
BongoXgabeapp: use the Disk Utility under System / Administratioin15:49
mdghbrhnEdwardSnowden: and what about back end control panel ?15:49
bekksmdghbrhn: If you dont even know how to configure details of a webserver, stick with apache.15:49
mdghbrhnbekks: honestly I do not know but this is what I read15:49
bekksmdghbrhn: Then use apache.15:49
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, If you boot with a livecd without ethernet plugged in, do you get wifi?15:50
mdghbrhnbekks: what about using backend control panel ?15:50
Wiz_KeeDEdwardSnowden, I don't know that, I don't have the livecd with me :(15:51
EdwardSnowdenmdghbrhn, nginx doesn't have guis I think, you have to edit config files manually15:51
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, Do you have a usb stick?15:51
oppositescopezwell isnt this place dead o.o15:52
Wiz_KeeDEdwardSnowden, I sold it since it was utter crap, I could not get it to be bootable, could not even format it to ntfs, it was horrid15:52
Wiz_KeeD:)15:52
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, Well too bad15:54
Wiz_KeeDindeed it is EdwardSnowden15:55
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, Your card isn't working at all?15:55
bekksmdghbrhn: What backend control panel?15:55
mdghbrhnbekks: so if I want to use back end control panel? to make things easy for me15:55
mdghbrhnthe one mentioned here http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-nginx-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3-p315:55
Wiz_KeeDEdwardSnowden, it is working, I can connect using Network->Wireless->Connect to Others networks and typing in the network data there15:55
Wiz_KeeDAnd then it shows up all networks and all seems fine15:55
karab44I want to share Printer for windows users. I am on ubuntu 13.04. Is this easy task or hard?15:55
Wiz_KeeDBeen on it for an hour and looks great, but when I boot I do not see the networks come up15:55
bekksmdghbrhn: I dont see a panel mentioned there.15:56
EdwardSnowdenmdghbrhn, ISPconfig isn't very useful. You'd be better off creating config files yourself. Just read the nginx documentation15:56
bekksmdghbrhn: If you want to learn how to configure a webserver, do it on the CLI.15:56
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, So, it's not working right now?15:56
Wiz_KeeDEdwardSnowden, it's working without a problem once I connect to a network, but in order to connect to it i must do it manually, it does not scan and show available networks at system boot, only after I conect manually15:57
EdwardSnowdenWiz_KeeD, The service probably doesn't get started at boot15:57
Wiz_KeeDOr a bug that doesn't broadcast at startup to search them EdwardSnowden, who knows15:58
oppositescopezdoes anyone know the most recent version of opengl for c++ .?15:58
Wiz_KeeDhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/172698/how-do-i-install-sublime-text-2 Is it ok if i use this repo to install sublime text editor?15:58
karab44EdwardSnowden: so here are you hidding! ;D15:58
BongoXlol15:58
gabeappBongoX: it finally booted and it says the disk is ok15:58
EdwardSnowdenkarab44, No I'm just bored because I quit my job at NSA15:58
BongoXgabeapp: still these funky IO-errors on the console?15:59
gabeappno, because i booted from the live cd15:59
mdghbrhnbekks: EdwardSnowden so all I need to do is the web server configurations ?15:59
BongoXwell... ok15:59
bekksmdghbrhn: No. You need to configure your server to run a webserver, and you need to secure your webserver.15:59
Wiz_KeeDcan anyone please confirm?15:59
mdghbrhnI was thinking about using cpanel and give myself a break lol15:59
Wiz_KeeDsudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-2 ? I think it's safe right?16:00
mdghbrhnbekks: does there is a guide for this ?16:00
bekksWiz_KeeD: We dont know if it is safe, but the syntax is correct.16:00
piggazoidcan ubuntu output sound from two source at the same time e.g game and skype?16:00
BongoXbekks: gabeapp checked his disk after booting from life cd and it's supposed to be ok.. any idea?16:01
mdghbrhnbekks: may I IMing you ?16:01
tito_what is the best way to backup my whole ubuntu drive to a usb hard drive? just some "cp -ar / /media/drive " or is there something better?16:01
bekksmdghbrhn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP16:01
MonkeyDusttito_  rsync is nice, it's similar to cp, but with more options16:01
bekksBongoX: How did he check his disk?16:02
EdwardSnowdenmdghbrhn, There a full guide here http://vpsbible.com/ but you have to pay $15 to access16:02
EdwardSnowdenmdghbrhn, You can find this information by googling around and reading nginx documentation16:02
EdwardSnowdenmdghbrhn, And the ubuntu server guide16:02
BongoXbekks... gui... system/administration...16:02
bekksmdghbrhn: Do not use external guides, use the official documentation.16:02
Hodapptito_: if you do use cp -ar / /media/drive - be aware that it might get stuck in a loop since /media/drive is part of /, and it'll eventually copy /media/drive to /media/drive/media/drive16:02
tito_MonkeyDust: I just want to copy everything, no compression or anything, just a simple copy, because the backup drive is way bigger than my hard drive16:02
bekksBongoX: ROFLMAO. I told him how to check his filesystems using the live cd. The disk itself can be checked using smartcl and badblocks.16:03
MonkeyDusttito_  read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync16:03
tito_Hodapp: so the question then is, how do I backup my whole ubuntu drive to a usb hard drive?16:03
NEOhidrai would like to restrict a user just to one folder how can i do that? i need to create a user for one purpose - upload backups, but would like to denie him access to any other folder. How can i do it?16:03
Hodapptito_: whether rsync or cp, make sure you use options to not cross filesystems.16:03
bekks!backup | tito_16:03
ubottutito_: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning16:03
mdghbrhnbekks: you mean this one ?16:03
mdghbrhnhttp://nginx.org/en/docs/16:03
bekksmdghbrhn: I gave you the link. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP16:03
karab44okay, guys. I need to know do I have to install samba server if I want to share my printer with Windows users or maybe ubuntu implements other/newer solutions?16:03
NEOhidrauuploading via SCP i mean16:04
bekks!samba | karab4416:04
ubottukarab44: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.16:04
puckeredrosebudrunning openvpn server on ubuntu 12.04, how can i make sure all ports are open for openvpn clients??16:04
puckeredrosebudrunning in client to client mode not bridged16:05
karab44bekks: so I guess I have to install it, cause packet is not installed by default. :)16:05
bekkspuckeredrosebud: By checking your config, and the open ports.16:05
mdghbrhnbekks: EdwardSnowden I mean the nginx documentations is this: http://nginx.org/en/docs/ ?16:05
bekkskarab44: Thats right, yes.16:05
karab44Thank you bro16:05
EdwardSnowdenmdghbrhn, yes16:05
bekksmdghbrhn: I am out of your ticket now, since you dont want to listen to suggestions/advises but stick to your own ideas.16:05
mdghbrhnbekks: please accept my apologize16:06
puckeredrosebudbekks, what would i add or edit in my conf? also, my openvpn conf? how do i check those open ports? still pretty new to most things16:06
BongoXkarab44: do you have router which supports printer sharing? much easier...16:06
mdghbrhnbekks:  I do not mean to do this but I am really confused with all these details and trying to understand what to do16:06
bekkspuckeredrosebud: I dont know your config, ,how am I supposed to tell you what you have to change? :)16:06
mdghbrhnbekks: again please accept my apologize and be patient16:06
karab44BongoX: unfortunetly no, I do not have any printserver... :(16:06
puckeredrosebudthat's what im wondering, where do i start? lol16:07
bekksmdghbrhn: Then just listen to the advise: "If you dont know the details of a webserver configuration, then stick with the well-documented apache."16:07
mdghbrhnbekks: this is the official documentation you refer to : https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html ?16:07
bekksmdghbrhn: For the third time, I am giving you this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP16:07
BongoXi  have a brother laser printer on a avm fritzbox 7330... shares perfectly well to linux and windoze16:08
mdghbrhnbekks: my friend in the top of the page, it says : "To find the Ubuntu Server Guide related to your specific version, please go to: https://help.ubuntu.com/, select your Ubuntu version and then click on Ubuntu Server Guide. For the latest LTS version (12.04 LTS) of Ubuntu Server, please go tohttps://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html"16:08
Johnny_Linuxbrother works pretty good16:09
mdghbrhnbekks: and this is the same link I asked you about, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html or I am still not understand ?16:09
bekksmdghbrhn: I know that, yes. But we are talking about configuring youe webserver, and not your entire server. I you need to do that first, refer to the server guide.16:09
puckeredrosebudi think i need to run some iptables command, but i'm not sure how to put it together. iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -i eth0 -p tcp --dport ALL -j DNAT --to 10.8.0.10, can't be right16:09
EdwardSnowdenmdghbrhn, Read the whole server guide, you'll understand how servers work. Then you can configure a web server16:09
BongoXyeah, brother rocks16:09
bekksmdghbrhn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html are different links - do you see the difference?16:09
EdwardSnowdenpuckeredrosebud, It's right, iptables is complicated, use ufw16:10
mdghbrhnbekks: yes there are different16:11
bekksmdghbrhn: So your question is answered. They are different.16:12
mdghbrhnbekks: please what are the differences in between both ?16:12
BongoXkarab44: windows supports LPR and raw-sharing...16:12
bekksmdghbrhn: Please read them, and you will know.16:12
mdghbrhnbekks: is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP is part or included in the server guide ?16:13
karab44they are talking about cifs-utils, what is that? Isn't it samba newer substitute?16:13
bekksmdghbrhn: Do you see it included in the serverguide?16:13
karab44I want to install minimum and essential packets.16:13
karab44only16:13
mdghbrhnbekks: I mean this : https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/lamp-applications.html16:14
bekksmdghbrhn: How about finally start reading the links?16:14
mdghbrhnbekks: ok ok :)16:14
mdghbrhnbekks: which one to go through first?16:15
mdghbrhnbekks: this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP OR this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html16:15
bekksmdghbrhn: Both.16:16
bekksmdghbrhn: First the entire serverguide, then the apache guide.16:16
mdghbrhnbekks: ok16:16
bekksmdghbrhn: For the fifth time now.16:16
karab44okay16:18
karab44now a lot of configuration... but I will skip that.16:18
airtonixdid someone here mention problems with chrome tabs freezing now and then?16:18
bekkskarab44: It wont work without configuring it.16:19
karab44please no, what about exploring other windows-PC's through nautilus and share my own resources?16:20
karab44Can't I do that?16:20
bekkskarab44: That wont help you.16:21
appleStorenothing will help you now16:21
appleStoreyou are doomed16:21
appleStoreDOOOOOOOOOOMED16:21
FloodBot1appleStore: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:21
appleStoreIt is way too quiet for a floodbot.16:21
bazhangappleStore, actual ubuntu support question?16:22
EdwardSnowdenkarab44, You can explore windows shares already16:22
EdwardSnowdenkarab44, Go to browse network16:22
appleStorebazhang: I am actually just trying to see if I could get emacs to run and IRC client16:22
bazhangappleStore, it has one built in16:22
karab44yes, I had Windows Network but accessing it always finished with error16:23
bazhangappleStore, ask in #emacs16:23
karab44but what exactly I want is to share my printer to other, windows users16:23
karab44so I installed samba for that.16:23
bekkskarab44: If you want to share your printer, you have to configure the samba server. As I already told you.16:24
appleStorebazhang: I am bored in an Apple store, waiting for my phone to recharge, so I poked about emacs to get the IRC client working. I know it's built in, I just have never used it before, so I made it work here. I'm using it right now to connect. All my regular chatrooms are kinda dead, so I figured I'd go for oine that might be popular16:24
EdwardSnowdenkarab44, Well you have to create a samba user first16:24
EdwardSnowdenkarab44, smbpasswd -a username16:24
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bazhangappleStore, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please, this is support only16:24
karab44bekks: I wish I could skip it. I don't want to configure anymore! :(16:24
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karab44but ok, I will :)16:24
bekkskarab44: You need to, if you want to share your printer. It is up to you now.16:24
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appleStorebazhang: I apologise, I didn't know that this was support only. take care.16:25
EdwardSnowdenkarab44, install the samba gui then16:25
karab44hmmm16:25
karab44I still learn to hack in terminal16:25
bekkskarab44: Better learn how to type commands in terminal. :)16:25
karab44so better to get some experience by doing this task16:25
karab44bekks: that's what I am talkin about :)16:26
karab44hack sounds better :>16:26
karab44So now I am gonna hack this printer16:26
bekksPoor printer.16:27
karab44it is motivation! configure ---> lame HACK ----> awesome!16:27
bekkskarab44: It is nonsense, and not even cool.16:27
karab44ok thank you very much. I think now I understand what I need and what I have to do16:28
karab44okay most of task is generally a hacking. Because many things still are problematic or awkward16:29
karab44comparing to other OS16:30
karab44but I don't mind.16:30
bekkskarab44: There is no single bit of hacking involved. It is just learning on how to run commands after learning what they actually do.16:30
BlalHi, somewhat noob here -- if I'm using tmux to run an ssh session to my VPS in, how do I then detach from tmux on the client without sending the command to the server? Thanks16:31
BlalOkay scratch that, how do you send tmux commands to the server?16:32
eduardo_hello guys16:32
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eduardo_somebody used geany to code with python-django?16:33
surferboyHi Guys, is 13.04 so much better than 12.04 ?16:33
surferboybecause my fav config just doesn't work with 13.0416:33
BlalKAMELOSO16:34
BlalYou just ordered a 1000l of milk16:34
karab44bekks: Well, recompiling source with proper flags, reconfiguring kernels, fixing broken code, jiggling between libraries, because some are bug affected and correcting incorrect values in configuration files to make your mouse work is actually a hacking. As I said many things still doesn't work like it should16:34
puckeredrosebudive got openvpn server running on ubuntu server 12.04 and i'm trying to forward all ports for openvpn clients. ports for other services on the server work fine, like transmission, http, etc. but the ports the openvpn clients are trying to use are still closed.16:35
bekkskarab44: All that has absolutely nothing to do with configuring a samba server.16:35
bazhang!ot | Blal16:35
puckeredrosebudhow can i start to figure out what16:35
puckeredrosebuds going on and fix it16:35
karab44hehehe I don't know yet16:35
Blalthanks, bazhang16:35
Blaland puckeredrosebud , what port and what proto16:35
karab44but I expect the worst16:35
puckeredrosebudi'd like it to be all ports, not application or port specific but for examplesake, 4957416:35
BlalTry the default oVPN part first, 119416:36
Blalon UDP16:36
puckeredrosebudthe client is connect no problem, but the client needs to listen on certain ports and they are showing closed16:36
ubottuBlal: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:37
* puckeredrosebud grabs popcorn16:37
BlalHm, try #OpenVPN but they are likely to get mad at you, puckeredrosebud16:38
puckeredrosebudthey did last time. had to get schooled on how pfsense handles openvpn server in a peculiar way.. :/16:39
puckeredrosebudoff i go16:39
BongoXok... ubuntu is for playing mahjongg... i knew it16:40
darth_damian_000Does some sort of javascript come with ubuntu by default?16:41
darth_damian_000(13.04)16:42
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MonkeyDustdarth_damian_000  javascript is a programming code16:43
Eduard_MunteanuProgramming language.16:43
MonkeyDustdarth_damian_000  or what do you mean?16:43
bazhang!java | darth_damian_00016:44
ubottudarth_damian_000: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.16:44
raptor556how to upload file to a htto site using filezilla?16:44
raptor556http16:44
bekksraptor556: You cant.16:44
Eduard_MunteanuGNOME3 might require a JS runtime.16:44
darth_damian_000Okay, that is not what I meant to ask. I switched over from windows, and some things require me to download "javascript" in order to work16:44
bekksraptor556: filezilla supports FTP, SFTP and FTPS.16:44
soeehi, any suggestion how can i convert files from iso-8859-15 to utf-8 ?16:44
Rory!detauks | darth_damian_00016:44
bekkssoee: Using convmv16:44
Rory!details | darth_damian_00016:44
ubottudarth_damian_000: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."16:44
Eduard_Munteanusoee: look at iconv16:45
soeeEduard_Munteanu, i did but the characters inside file arend converted though output file is set to utf-816:45
kostkondarth_damian_000, probably you mean the Java browser plugin16:46
kostkonmost*16:46
darth_damian_000Okay, so Java Runtime Environment seems like something I am looking for. Ubottu, thanks for the link. I just wanted  to ask if JRE comes standard with ubuntu or is it something I need to download myself16:46
soeeEduard_Munteanu, sampel code i used: iconv -f iso-8859-15 -t utf-8 ce_panel_login.php > utf8_ce_panel_login.php16:46
Rory!java | darth_damian_00016:46
ubottudarth_damian_000: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.16:46
karab44Okay, I have ultimate question - when I learn to make things without following any instructions and howto's and help? I mean where to learn what to change to enable something? What to install, how to configure it, where to look for it? I mean, I want to know16:51
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ciphersonanyone have a suggestion for middle clicking on a laptop?16:54
ciphersonapplication or button combo16:55
ska_IS there a way to install ubuntu on a remote system without a console or keyboard?16:55
ciphersonyes16:55
ciphersondon't know how tho16:55
ciphersonIPMI would be the best option if you wan it16:56
Johnny_Linuxcipherson   http://askubuntu.com/questions/130393/how-to-configure-the-touchpad-middle-click16:56
ciphersonhave*16:56
ska_How would I find the IP address as well? I guess someone needs to monitor dhcp, or have the system beep out its address :)16:56
ciphersonJohnny_Linux thx i will read that16:56
Johnny_Linuxk16:57
ska_I think its a dell so it has drac or somesuch.16:57
Johnny_Linuxits a start anyway16:57
ciphersonska_ IPMI if you have it would have its own IP that you can connect to and control the system16:57
ciphersonyou can pass a iso and run it as well as interact with the terminal16:57
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ciphersonska_ you can also make a auto install ubuntu disk that will run all the confuration for you16:58
ciphersonmore complex tho16:58
ocooelIs myunity safe to use..?17:00
Johnny_Linuxyes17:00
ska_cipherson: I can use IPMI, but I thought it wasn't easy to configure.. It uses ssh?17:01
angsis it possible to connect a remote ubuntu desktop (12.04 and kubuntu) how teamviewer does?17:03
ocooelJohnny_Linux: Does it add PPA's and third party packages..?17:03
Johnny_Linuxocooel  only if and when you allow them after a full installation17:04
ciphersonska_17:05
ocooelJohnny_Linux: Would you say it's safer then UbuntuTweak..?17:05
ska_yea17:05
ciphersonIPMI should have a web interface you can access17:05
ciphersontry browsing to its IP17:06
ciphersonit will have a loggin17:06
ska_oh.. that makes it kinda too easy :)17:06
ciphersonin there you can access a console (Java) that will show the screen as if it had one17:06
Johnny_Linuxocooel  Ubuntu-Tweak is good for those who know the ropes already.17:06
ciphersonin there you can pass it and ISO of ubuntu17:06
MonkeyDustocooel  13.04 has unity-tweak-tool in the repos17:06
darkangelIs Ubuntu head of the software center?17:07
ciphersonthen reboot it with options and tada it boots to ISO like it was a CD and you access it like you are right there17:07
MonkeyDustdarkangel  ubuntu is a product, you mean canonical17:07
ska_cipherson: USB version of iso is ok?17:07
dougielcaN  someone take a look at this thread - I don't understand... should it work or not? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194981017:08
ciphersonska_ it might you will have too see what it will let you mount over the connection but i have only done iso's17:08
bazhangJohnny_Linux, where is myunity. it's unity-tweak-tool and gnome-tweak-tool17:08
Johnny_Linuxive never used unity, so its a blind driveway for me17:09
bazhangJohnny_Linux, then dont answer, if you dont know17:09
AndroUser2Hello i have a probleme my acer logo is buggy i see it during 1 minute17:09
ocooelJohnny_Linux, MonkeyDust: Is there any other way to customize without MyUnity, UbuntuTweak or CCSM..?17:09
Johnny_Linuxanswer what, a question about ubuntu tweak ?17:09
bazhangocooel, unity-tweak-tool17:10
ciphersonJohnny_Linux, if your new to unity i would google "top 10 things after installing ubuntu 13.04"17:10
Johnny_Linuxim not new to it17:10
bazhangJohnny_Linux, its not ubuntu tweak, it's unity-tweak-tool and gnome-tweak-tool17:10
ciphersonwill give you good stuff to do with a fresh install17:10
Johnny_Linuxthen i misread what the question was, sorry for my frailties17:11
MonkeyDustJohnny_Linux  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue17:11
ciphersonska_ any luck?17:11
Johnny_Linuxit says lunch time17:11
ciphersonLOL17:11
cipherson^17:12
ska_cipherson: not yet.. I need to go back to the office and setup Drac there.. No vpn..17:13
ska_cipherson: I'm just doing some dd for monday.17:14
ciphersonska_ ahhh ok good luck17:14
chaotixhey...   has anyone found a way to controll the on screen keyboard with a remote controll?  or the arrow keys???  i use flirk17:15
dimer_hi17:17
dimer_its been a long time since I have been on an irc chat17:17
al_laHey all, quick question.  Upgraded hard drive and I'd like to make sure data on old drive is unrecoverable so I can give it away.  I deleted partitions with gparted, but I'd like to do something like a low level format.  Does ubuntu support that?  Can't find options in gparted.17:18
dimer_vow, this is so nice17:18
dimer_so much better than facebook and twitter17:18
kostkondimer_, welcome back17:19
DJonesal_la: NOt usre about ubuntu, but I'd have a look a www.dban.org for Darik's Boot & NUke live disk17:19
ciphersonanyone have issues accessing the top task bar in 13.04? i cant seem to add stuff to it17:19
MonkeyDust!info wipe | al_la try this17:20
dimer_thank you, kostkon17:20
kostkoncipherson, in unity? you can't17:20
kostkondimer_, :)17:20
ubottual_la try this: wipe (source: wipe): Secure file deletion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.22-1 (raring), package size 41 kB, installed size 120 kB17:20
ciphersonkostkon, ? you can't access the top bar link in gnome?17:21
kostkoncipherson, gnome3? i have no idea :/17:21
al_laubottu, MonkeyDust: thanks, will look at wipe17:21
ubottual_la: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:21
al_laDJones: will check it out, thanks17:22
MonkeyDustal_la  in a terminal, type            apt-cache show wipe17:22
MonkeyDustto see what it does17:22
jackarg_anyone know of a linux distro or a free software related company that is based in paris?17:26
bekksjackarg_: Why is that important?17:26
yaphey fellas! yesterday without warning my ubuntu did not boot and I had to use boot-repair. It helped but this brings up a question - are boot problems a sign of faulty hard drive or just your normal random problems that actually get fixed and you forget about them?17:26
dimer_so what is the best irc chat client for a mac?17:27
bekksjackarg_: And one of thos distros would be Oracle Linux - Oracle has an office in Paris.17:27
jackarg_bekks my younger brother in high school has to do a one week scholarship and he's interested17:27
jackarg_bekks thankyou17:27
dimer_google might have offices in paris17:28
jackarg_dimer_ google isn't very linux but yes you're right I haven't thought of it17:29
dimer_okay17:29
dimer_Colloquy, I read about it17:29
MonkeyDustjackarg_  Pear OS is French17:29
dimer_why is it better than LimeChat17:29
dimer_I am using that npw17:29
dimer_now17:30
jgkColloquy is good17:30
jgkdimer_: it looks better17:30
jgkMore mac liek17:30
jgklike*17:30
jgkthis a ubuntu channel17:30
dnsahow can I copy xterm output?17:30
jgkdimer_: oin #Macosx17:30
jgk^17:30
dimer_okay17:30
FloodBot1jgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:30
jgkdimer_: join #Macosx17:30
jackarg_MonkeyDust it isn't big enough to have headquarters i think17:31
jgkah yes17:32
jgkI heard MonkeyDust is the CEO17:32
jgkno?17:32
dimer_okay17:32
jgkfather has some reparations from the war17:32
jgkEx Mossad agent i think17:32
bekksjackarg_: Do you have an actual ubuntu issue?17:32
jgkbut thats all up in the air with the documents were burned at 22:34 in central Moscow last night17:32
DJonesjgk: Please stay on topic, this is Ubuntu support17:32
jgkok17:33
jgkIm just saying what info I intercepted17:33
bekksjgk: Unless it is related to Ubuntu, it is irrelevant in here.17:33
jackarg_bekks i've asked in more than five more related channels with no answer, and I know I always get an answer here17:35
bekksjackarg_: Its offtopic in here ;)17:36
al_lawow, using wipe (-kD) on a 200 gB partition estimates 6 weeks, 1 day to complete ...17:36
yaphey fellas! yesterday without warning my ubuntu did not boot and I had to use boot-repair. It helped but this brings up a question - are boot problems a sign of faulty hard drive or just your normal random problems that actually get fixed and you forget about them?17:39
wilee-nileeyap, I never have boot problems, what did you do?17:40
petar`someone who do in netbeans ?17:40
yapwilee-nilee, I got the Live CD USB stick and ran boot-repair17:40
tertuwhat happened before the boot problems, yap?17:41
wilee-nileeyap, the question is unanswerable really, any number of things can cause this most likely is something you have done.17:41
cpinedhello, I'm not sure if this is the right place for this question.  When I grep a file that has a line which includes '\r' and I output the results to a file the '\r' is retained, this is done on Ubuntu.  But on windows cygwin the '\r' is not retained.17:42
yapwilee-nilee, okay, thanks17:42
Eduard_Munteanucpined: that's because the end of line conventions are different for Windows17:42
ubuntutisanybody here used aircrack before?17:43
cpinedis there a way I can retain it on windows?17:43
Eduard_Munteanucpined: you should convert the input before feeding it to grep, e.g. dos2unix, unix2dos17:43
Eduard_MunteanuOr set the locale variables, that might do too.17:44
cpinedbut I need the '\r' to stay in the line.  So grep 'Message IN' file.log > output.txt....I need the '\r' to be retained.17:44
MonkeyDustcpined  try to add a line or script to detect the OS and modify the end-of-line accordingly17:45
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Eduard_Munteanucpined: why do you need the \r though?17:45
cpinedbecause I am reading a file to extract HL7 messages and then run a script to read the file to send those messages to a host/port...the '\r' in HL7 indicates a new piece of information.17:47
cpinedHL7 - Health Level 717:47
Eduard_Munteanucpined: I think you should use binary-oriented tools then, not grep.17:47
cpinedok....thanks17:48
parallel21Is there a way to return a pkg configuration options to view the defaults of something I install with apt-get install17:50
JhonnyBoihi17:51
JhonnyBoican someone help me add podcast to banshee?17:51
kostkonJhonnyBoi, what's your problem exactly17:51
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JhonnyBoii wanna add this channel17:54
JhonnyBoihot 9717:54
JhonnyBoihttp://tunein.com/topic/?TopicId=4979006717:54
JhonnyBoihow do i write the url in the podcast add?17:54
JhonnyBoior rss?17:55
Jakeyhi17:56
Jakeythis is weird17:56
Jakeywhy is ubuntu using linaros kernel17:56
Jakeyubuntu 13.0417:56
kostkonJhonnyBoi, is this the list of podcasts you are looking for? http://www.hot97.com/podcasts/17:56
bekksJakey: Because you configured your system to do so.17:57
Jakeybekks: no i didn't17:57
Jakeyit came with the distros17:57
kostkonJakey, post the output of: uname -a17:58
wilee-nileeJakey, Would have to be in the repo.17:58
bekksJakey: It does not. Ubuntu ships with an Ubuntu kernel, not with an Linaro kernel.17:58
OerHeksJakey, ubuntu does not, you did somehow.17:58
Jakeyahh..17:59
JakeyConfigured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.3-1ubuntu1'17:59
bekksJakey: Whats the output of "uname -a"?18:00
JakeythatsUsing built-in specs.18:00
JakeyCOLLECT_GCC=gcc18:00
JakeyCOLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/lto-wrapper18:00
JakeyTarget: x86_64-linux-gnu18:00
JakeyConfigured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.3-1ubuntu118:00
straterraIs there a lighter version of Gnome I can install? I'm running latest Ubuntu on my netbook and its chewing up CPU just idling here18:00
FloodBot1Jakey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:00
bekksJakey: Whats the output of "uname -a"?18:00
Jakeybekks:  what you expect18:01
bekksJakey: One line. No spam.18:01
Jakeyit would spit out the generic kernel of course18:01
bekksJakey: If you dont want to provide it, because you are actually not using Ubuntu, its your choice. But dont expect support then.18:02
al_laquestion: trying to wipe a drive ... is there any harm in deleting the lost+found directory so I can run sfill on a wholely empty partition?18:02
Jakey 3.8.0-30-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 22 20:52:24 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux18:02
kostkonJakey, where's the linaro kernel then18:02
Eduard_Munteanual_la: why are you wiping the filesystem and not the block device?18:02
Jakey@ bekks18:02
Jakeykostkon: its there18:02
wilee-nileestraterra, There are light desktops what are you running  now unity, and have you cdhecked what is running?18:03
wilee-nileechecked*18:03
Jakeywhy is gcc spilling out18:04
straterraIt's python and compiz chewing up cpu18:04
Jakeygcc version 4.7.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.3-1ubuntu1)18:04
al_laEduard_Munteanu: I just want to ensure there's no data on device so I can give away.  I wipe and secure-delete seem to only allow on partitions, not devices.  I deleted partitions, created a big empty one then was going to use sfill.  What do you recommend?18:04
straterraAnd yes, unity. I hate it18:04
Jakeywilee-nilee: get rid of unity and use cinnamon :)18:04
wilee-nileestraterra, You could try xubuntu or the lighter lubuntu, use nicks here if you can.18:04
al_laEduard_Munteanu: I tried running wipe but it appeared that it would take 6+ weeks to complete18:04
wilee-nileeJakey, Talk to the right user.18:05
Jakeyhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/292394/how-to-completely-remove-unity-and-replace-it-with-cinnamon18:06
Eduard_Munteanual_la: you can wipe devices or files. In the latter case it's only useful if said file hasn't been deleted already.18:06
Jakeystraterra: T^^^^18:06
Jakeystraterra: i'm running ubuntu with cinnamon18:06
Eduard_Munteanual_la: if there's sensitive information on the device and the filesystem doesn't account for it, you need to wipe the entire drive. Something like   dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourdevice bs=10M   should do for normal HDDs.18:07
Eduard_MunteanuZeroing out HDDs is quite secure.18:07
Jakeyi don't know why i should18:07
Jakeyjust install linuxmint 1518:07
al_laEduard_Munteanu: Wipe on device kills MBR as well correct?  Using wipe would take 6 weeks, unless I am missing something with recommended options.  Drive is only 200 GB.  I used 'wipe -kD /dev/sdx1'18:07
al_laEduard_Munteanu: Can I PM?18:08
Jakeyso why does gcc spill : gcc version 4.7.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.3-1ubuntu1)18:08
Eduard_Munteanual_la: why PM? We can talk here unless you don't want to disclose information publically.18:08
wilee-nileeal_la,  no clean should take that long, why is that not a huge red flag for you?18:08
stonixJakey: it's saying your using a version maybe modified to work with Ubuntu/Linaro <<18:08
stonixnot saying you are using a linaro kernel18:09
Eduard_Munteanual_la: also, what wilee-nilee says, that's way too long. I don't know what wipe does, it may do multiple passes but AFAICT that's unnecessary. Wiping with /dev/urandom should be very secure.18:10
al_laEduard_Munteanu: can you explain the dd command?  read in all zeros, write to device in 10M chunks?  Also, how would I use /dev/urandom?  I agree, 6 week is huge red flag which is why I was looking for a dif option18:11
AlanBellJakey: that is the identifier for GCC, not the kernel18:12
Eduard_Munteanual_la: yes, that's pretty much what it does, 10M is just a big enough value18:12
Eduard_Munteanual_la: you'd replace /dev/zero with /dev/urandom18:12
Jakeyanyway18:13
Jakeyi'm just starting linux a couple of years now18:13
Jakeyi started using linuxmint18:13
AlanBelland linaro and ubuntu do have a lot in common (Canonical is a founding member, they shared developer summits for some time)18:13
Jakeyanyway18:13
Jakeyi just want to know what changes ubuntu make to debian18:13
Jakeyso that what makees it ubuntu?18:14
al_laEduard_Munteanu: 'dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdb bs=10M' would do the trick?  Also what is advantage of using bs=10M?18:14
AlanBellsome packages are altered a bit, some are added, the Unity UI is added, some configuration and integration is done, and there is a different release process and support timescale Jakey18:15
Eduard_Munteanual_la: the default bs is way too small and it makes things slower, you just need a big enough value18:15
Eduard_Munteanual_la: and yeah, that should do.18:15
al_laEduard_Munteanu: regardless of bs size, it still copies to every sector correct?18:16
Eduard_Munteanual_la: bs makes it read and write in bs-sized chunks. If that's too small, it incurs a significant overhead.18:16
Eduard_Munteanual_la: yes18:16
Eduard_Munteanual_la: the drive size needn't be a multiple of bs18:16
al_laEduard_Munteanu: ah, perfect, that answers it.   this will effectively remove lost+found of inode data and whatnot, correct?  also, thanks for the explanation on all of this ... very helpful.  teach a man to fish...18:17
Eduard_Munteanual_la: obviously the filesystem (including lost+found) will be destroyed18:18
al_laEduard_Munteanu: thanks again18:18
Eduard_MunteanuNo problem. :)18:18
Questhow to see which dirs in my system have more than 1 gb size ?18:19
al_laEduard_Munteanu: and it has begun.  how long would you expect it to take for 200 GB sata 3 drive?  on the scale of hours?18:20
Eduard_Munteanual_la: you can  kill -USR1   on dd's pid and it will print out how much it has done and the transfer rate18:20
Eduard_MunteanuWithout stopping it, that is.18:21
Eduard_MunteanuAnd yeah, something like 4 hrs maybe, ballpark.18:21
dex90_Quest: http://superuser.com/questions/453323/how-to-find-over-1gb-folders-and-execute-another-command-in-linux-terminal18:23
dex90_nice solution at that site.  Problems : dir names contain whitespace, and parent directories with sub over 1gb are also 1gb in size.18:24
smitty1kyhello?18:25
Eduard_Munteanusmitty1ky: hi18:25
smitty1kyum. so I bought a Micro SDHC last night, and I plugged it into my laptop this morning. ubuntu recognizes it as "sdab" but it doesnt show up in file manager, only terminal. In windows, the card shows up as F:. but the formatter from sdcard.org says that this card is unsupported.18:27
smitty1kyGparted also doesnt see it.18:28
Eduard_Munteanusmitty1ky: "sdab"? That seems odd... did you look in dmesg for it?18:28
smitty1kydmesg>18:29
smitty1ky?*18:29
Eduard_Munteanusmitty1ky: the kernel log18:29
al_laEduard_Munteanu: I don't see -USR1 option in kill man.  'kill -USR1 <pid>' would do it?18:29
smitty1kyI just did.18:29
smitty1kyI dont really know what im looking for, other than the fact that every other line mentions "dev sdab"18:30
Questthis is quit strange that my / is  3.3G     but df -H is showing up        /dev/xvda1      8.5G  8.0G   56M 100%  /                http://pastebin.com/gWQ0wc6K18:30
Eduard_Munteanual_la: "Alternate  signals may be specified in three ways: -9, -SIGKILL or -KILL."18:30
Eduard_Munteanual_la: and yeah, that'd do18:30
smitty1kyEduard_Munteanu: What do I do now?18:31
al_laEduard_Munteanu: success, and very handy.  Thanks again for the help and info.18:32
Eduard_Munteanusmitty1ky: can you pastebin the last 50 lines or so? e.g. dmesg | tail -n 50 | wgetpaste   (or whatever there is in Ubuntu for pastebins)18:32
Questwhats wrong?18:32
al_laEduard_Muntean: One last easy question ... I still don't understand the -USR1 or how the "Alternate  signals may be specified in three ways: -9, -SIGKILL or -KILL" explains it.18:33
smitty1ky"dmesg | tail -n 50 |" returns nothing18:34
bekkssmitty1ky: One | to much at the end.18:34
mdghbrhnhow to register a new account in ubuntu forum18:35
kostkonsmitty1ky, you said you can access it from the terminal? does it mean it gets mounted somewhere?18:35
kostkonmdghbrhn, you need to create an u1 account: https://one.ubuntu.com/18:36
wilee-nileemdghbrhn, Try #ubuntuforums18:36
smitty1kykostkon I cant access it (as far as I know), but "ls /dev/sd*" returns "/dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda4  /dev/sda5  /dev/sdb" with the card in and "/dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda4  /dev/sda5" with the card out18:37
dex90_smitty1ky:  mount | grep sdab  ,  just to see if its mounted18:38
kostkonsmitty1ky, how do you access it then, what's its mount point?18:38
kostkonsmitty1ky, or you just mean the above ls output?18:38
smitty1kyjust the ls output18:39
Quest see line  38    and  14  conflicts with     line   19 . why ?   http://pastebin.com/0MXeCZ4Y18:39
smitty1kyalso, "mount | grep sdab" returns nothing18:39
smitty1kyEduard_Munteanu: I made what you wanted on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/rW1ZFTxQ18:41
Eduard_Munteanusmitty1ky: there's no "sdab" in there18:42
Eduard_Munteanusmitty1ky: it also looks like your card reader or drivers might not support that particular card. (Yeah, SD cards really suck.)18:42
smitty1kyIm just realising that now.18:42
mdghbrhnwhat is the recommended virtual machine to be used with ubunu18:43
smitty1kyBut my computer is spec'd to support SDHC cards...18:43
kostkonmdghbrhn, as the host? vb? easily available18:44
Eduard_Munteanusmitty1ky: it's not a SDHC issue per se18:44
kostkonsmitty1ky, if it's the /dev/sdb then i'm seeing a lot of error in your paste18:44
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Eduard_Munteanusmitty1ky: even consumer devices like cameras have trouble taking in some cards18:45
smitty1kyI think my phone can read the card tho, if I reformatted it with my phone, could that make it work on my computer?18:45
mdghbrhnkostkon: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/virtualbox/downloads/index.html18:45
kostkonsmitty1ky, worth a try18:45
kostkonmdghbrhn, yeah18:46
kostkonmdghbrhn, eer not wait18:46
kostkonno*18:46
smitty1kyI might have to invest in one of those SD to USB readers18:46
kostkonmdghbrhn, https://www.virtualbox.org/18:46
mdghbrhnthanks18:47
smitty1kythis sucks. >.>18:50
jimmy____hi, i'm trying to run dwarf fortress and i keep getting this: "error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"18:52
kostkon!find libSDL-1.2.so.018:53
ubottuFile libSDL-1.2.so.0 found in libsdl1.2debian18:53
jimmy____kostkon now what? I'd just like the package name so i can get it...18:53
kostkonjimmy____, "libsdl1.2debian"18:53
kostkon!info libsdl1.2debian18:54
ubottulibsdl1.2debian (source: libsdl1.2): Simple DirectMedia Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.15-5ubuntu1 (raring), package size 200 kB, installed size 505 kB18:54
jimmy____kostkon, it says It's already installed18:54
kostkonjimmy____, maube it's looking for it in the wrong place18:55
jimmy____kostkon so how do i fix that?18:56
ubuntutishow come ibqyoto4.5-cil is not available for ubuntu 13.0418:56
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kostkonjimmy____, is it a 64bit installation. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libSDL-1.2.so.0&mode=exactfilename&suite=raring&arch=any19:00
kostkonjimmy____, im guessing you will need to install the 32bit package19:00
Rat2000what is the command to see the video cards in ubuntu?19:01
jimmy____kostkon they have the same name, and I can't seem to find a link to the package19:02
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jimmy____kostkon ok i think i got it19:04
feelthiswhat-i'm using ubuntu ,how to put some food from my monitor?19:06
CH33ZBURGERtry lspci19:06
dex90_lspci | grep VGA19:06
Rat2000dex90_, thnx19:06
CH33ZBURGERoh nice one19:06
CH33ZBURGER:P19:06
danilkoIs it possible to install Lotus Symphony onto Ubuntu 13.0.4?19:06
UbuntivityHello19:07
daftykinshi19:07
UbuntivityI have a problem with wget19:08
daftykinsplease give us some detail with a question on one line19:08
SchrodingersScatUbuntivity: and what would that be?19:08
UbuntivityAfter some downloading I get the error: "Cannot write to <myfile> (Read-only file system).19:08
daftykinssounds like your file system is set to read only!19:09
UbuntivityWhile my filesystem is mounted as rw as "mount" states: /dev/sda5 on /mnt/drive type vfat (rw)19:09
SchrodingersScatUbuntivity: could it be a permission problem?19:09
daftykinsnot on FAT19:09
daftykinsi would've thought19:09
UbuntivitySchrodingersScat: I'm running wget as root (using sudo) to overcome that problem19:10
Ubuntivitydaftykins: What do you mean 'not on FAT'?19:10
daftykinsnot sure you'd get permissions issues on FAT19:10
daftykinsUbuntivity: can you pastebin "ls -l" from your attempted download path?19:11
UbuntivitySchrodingersScat: It downloads for some time, then gives me that "read only" error, which means it COULD download for some time.19:11
Ubuntivitydaftykins: You mean in the working directory?19:11
wyldepermission issues on the directory it's mounted in? ...just a thought19:11
SchrodingersScatUbuntivity: right, i was thinking about how you phrased that, so how long is some time?  and right, daftykins, Ubuntivity does it create the file at all?19:11
danilkoHow do I get around the dependency libnotify1 >=0.4.4 not satisfiable error? Installing Symphony 3.0.1 on Ubuntu 13.04?19:11
daftykinsdanilko: find a repo with a newer version19:12
UbuntivitySchrodingersScat: Not sure how much time, but basically for several minutes. And yes, it creates the file and downloads a part of it.19:12
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SchrodingersScatUbuntivity: happen to do a backup of the drive lately?  because that sounds scary to me.19:12
CH33ZBURGERor build it from source19:12
cstewartanyone have experience with partylog19:13
UbuntivitySchrodingersScat: It is a secondary (non-essential) PC, I won't really mind getting its drive wiped!19:13
UbuntivitySchrodingersScat: But I usually use it for downloading large files using wget -c19:13
Ubuntivityand for unknown reason I'm getting this error today every now and then!19:13
SchrodingersScatUbuntivity: right, normally that should work, what does it do in your case?19:13
UbuntivityI'm mounting my drive using "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda5 /mnt/drive"19:14
danilko@ daftykins: I have libnotify4 installed, I guess by default. I could google a repo for libnotify1.. do you think that libnotify4 is greater than or equal to libnotify1?19:14
daftykinsdon't have a clue19:14
UbuntivitySchrodingersScat: It downloads for some time, and I leave it and go away, then when I back I find that error saying "(Read-only file system) and can't continute download until I "umount" then "mount" again the drive!19:15
dex90_danilko: some discussion here: http://www-03.ibm.com/software/lotus/symphony/symphonyForum.nsf/0/B4D87A0C7CBA6884852579C9004540AC?Open=19:15
jimmy____kostkon are you still there? i'm having trouble finding a download link for the 32-bit package19:16
danilkoI suppose its not teribly important. I mean we do have libreoffice, but I was hoping to install something maybe a bit more robust. Maybe the world has passed Symphony by and it's too old.19:16
UbuntivitySchrodingersScat: I've unmounted and remounted my drive again, and now wget is downloading once more, but not sure how long will it keep goint until it stops with that error message!19:17
danilkodex90: thanks. I am ckecking it out.19:18
kostkonjimmy____, a good read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch19:18
opcode0how about you download that file to another filesystem? :P19:18
SchrodingersScatUbuntivity: I suspect a drive problem, but I could be way off.19:18
kostkonjimmy____, try with package_name:i38619:18
jimmy____kostkon: libsdl1.2debiani386 ? doesn't work19:19
UbuntivitySchrodingersScat: a file system error? or a physical drive error?19:19
kostkonjimmy____, libsdl1.2debiani386:i38619:19
kostkonjimmy____, oops19:20
kostkonjimmy____, libsdl1.2debian:i38619:20
jimmy____kostkon it worked! let's see if df will run now19:21
kostkonjimmy____, typo, i just c/ped your msg and that happened :P19:21
kostkonjimmy____, nice19:21
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jimmy____kostkon haha i've got another dependency now. can you teach me how to find package name for dependencies? this one is: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.019:22
kostkonjimmy____, just follow the same pattern19:22
jimmy____but how to i find the package name kostkon?19:22
opcode0my electric stove won't heat. it's plugged, knob turned all the way, red light is on (normally indicating heating) but it remains cold. any idea? (i got a half rib waiting, shrooms sliced up already with tomatoes)19:22
wyldejimmy____: apt-file is handy for that19:23
kostkonjimmy____, try: dkpg -S filename19:23
CH33ZBURGERyer call a pitza guy & an electrican19:23
kostkonjimmy____, nevertheless let's c19:23
kostkon!find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.019:23
ubottuFile libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 found in libgtk2.0-0, libgtk2.0-0-dbg19:24
kostkonjimmy____, thus, you need libgtk2.0-0:i38619:24
Slipknot_hello ppl, anyone knows vpn wich is not hosted in the Us?19:24
opcode0yes19:24
Slipknot_any links if thats possible19:25
Guest87883is there a room for picuntu?19:25
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opcode0vpnbook got servers in EU and UK19:25
opcode0i use it, it's ok19:25
jimmy____so kostkon I just need to type "!find filename" in the irc? how do i do so from terminal?19:25
Slipknot_thanks opcode019:25
MGMTI'm trying to install picuntu onto a mk802 and I just want to make sure theres somewhere I can go if I get really stuck19:25
kostkonjimmy____, dpkg -S filename, i think19:26
jimmy____kostkon ok ill see19:26
OerHekslocate <filename>19:26
jimmy____!find libgtk2.0-019:26
ubottuFound: libgtk2.0-0, libgtk2.0-0-dbg19:26
jimmy____ok kostkon i have a problem with libgtk2.0-0 . I have both versions already and doesn't work19:28
kostkonjimmy____, you have libgtk2.0-0:i386 already?19:28
jimmy____apparently yes kostkon19:28
kostkonjimmy____, what's the message you are getting19:29
jimmy____when trying to load df this is it: "./libs/Dwarf_Fortress: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"19:29
kostkonjimmy____, that's the old one, isn't it19:29
jimmy____kostkon yep I think so. I thought I figured that one out19:30
kostkonjimmy____, so you are still getting that message about sdl19:30
jimmy____kostkon my memory isn't great but this might be a different SDL19:30
haysI have an asus.archive.canonical.com in my sources.list that points to precice pangolin directory....  there is not any more recent. can I mix this with 13.x sources?19:31
OerHekshays no19:31
kostkonjimmy____, oh yeah. again same pattern19:31
haysOerHeks: bummer19:32
kostkon!find libSDL_image-1.2.so.019:32
ubottuFile libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 found in libsdl-image1.219:32
kostkonjimmy____,  libsdl-image1.2:i38619:32
jimmy____kostkon but it says I already have both19:32
kostkonjimmy____, right19:32
jimmy____IT WORKS19:32
jimmy____kostkon19:32
kostkonjimmy____, how??19:32
jimmy____must've been some confusion on my part. let's see if df runs NOW19:33
jimmy____!find libSDL_ttf-2.0.so.019:33
ubottuFile libSDL_ttf-2.0.so.0 found in libsdl-ttf2.0-019:33
jimmy____kostkon ok so it works but the APL library failed and there's no sound19:34
jimmy____at least i've got the pixels19:35
jimmy____thanks kostkon!19:35
kostkonjimmy____, apl?? what's the exact message19:35
kostkonjimmy____, never heard of it19:35
kostkonjimmy____, you mean openal?19:35
kostkon!find openal19:36
ubottuFound: libghc-openal-dev, libghc-openal-doc, libghc-openal-prof, libhugs-openal-bundled, libopenal-data19:36
kostkonhmm19:36
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jimmy____kostkon yes19:36
kostkonjimmy____, make sure you have: libopenal1:i38619:37
kostkonjimmy____, then find the "Sound" subsection here and give the 3 command it says: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Installation19:38
kostkonjimmy____, actually no forget about it19:38
haysOerHeks: hm ok what if the /etc/apt/sources.list seems to have changed without my doing, and the asus.archive.canonical.com source is now removed (??!?)19:39
miliisipoikahey.. can I ask question?19:39
kostkonjimmy____, it seems it's looking for libopenal.so instead of libopenal.so.119:39
miliisipoikasome years ago when you could order ubuntu/kubuntu cds online for free of charge, I did so for a while and now I have around 100-150 cds19:39
miliisipoikaI never use ubuntu, is this good?19:39
BluesKajmiliisipoika, we wouldn't be if it wasn't19:40
miliisipoikano I mean is it good thing I did?19:40
miliisipoikaI do nothing with it.. maybe use as throwing cards or something19:40
kostkonjimmy____, maybe in your case, something along the lines of sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libopenal.so.1 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libopenal.so19:40
kostkonjimmy____, and sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libsndfile.so.1 ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libsndfile.so19:41
OerHekshays then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade to reload the lists19:41
haysOerHeks: founds something in sources.list.d/19:42
haysOerHeks: but it looks like some weird chinese metapackages only... seems safe to remove19:42
[twisti]hey, any suggestions for a bittorrent client to run on a headless server/text mode, ideally with maybe like a web interface or something ?19:42
SchrodingersScat[twisti]: rtorrent with rutorrent19:43
wylde[twisti]: transmission-daemon19:43
ubuntutisanyone here ever used aircrack-ng before?19:43
kostkondamn i meant to say sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libsndfile.so.1 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libsndfile.so   nvm :/19:43
[twisti]can either of those prioritize different files inside a torrent differently ?19:43
wylde[twisti]: transmission can if I recall19:44
[twisti]thanks19:44
wylde[twisti]: little tip. Disable the daemon before editing the config ;)19:45
[twisti]wylde: i was going to read up on it first anyways, why ?19:45
ubuntutisanyone here know how to install drivers?19:45
ShapeShifter499hi19:46
wylde[twisti]: otherwise it will be overwritten with the old configuration when you restart the daemon19:46
[twisti]fun19:46
danilkodex90_: I found libnotify1 at http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libnotify1 and lucid updates.. I searched for it on http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libnotify1... I installed it and all the dependencies were met. Now Lotus is doing something but hard to tell. At least the error message is gone.19:47
kostkonDaniel0, lucid?19:47
kostkonoops19:47
kostkondanilko, lucid?*19:48
jgkas hi19:48
danilkokostkon: yeah that's what showed up when I did the search. So far nothing broke. So I don't know what to think. I am A Windows/Mac user so this is all new to me.19:48
funktHi there I have got a partition in ubuntu 12.04 which i want to use for my backup files but i cant write to it anyone have any ideaS?19:50
danilkosymphony still applying changes... So cross fingers19:50
haysIs this repo as useless as it seems? http://asus.archive.canonical.com/dists/precise-annan/19:50
wilee-nileefunkt, In 12.04, you mean a ext4 partition on the HD?19:51
haysIt seems like it is a baidu plugin for firefox19:51
funkterm it is ext 4 yes19:51
haysand some chinese settings19:51
darkapphi19:52
daftykinsfunkt: does your user have ownership and permissions on the path?19:52
peepsalothello, I have an application that is attempting to access /dev/input/event15, which i think is related to my laptop touchpad, but it does not have the permissions.  is there any harm in changing the permissions for this device?19:52
funktsorry I dont understand19:52
funktit sayes it is root19:53
BluesKaj!lucid | danilko19:53
ubottudanilko: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu.  Desktop support ended May 9 2013. Server support continues. See http://ubottu.com/y/lucid for more details.19:53
daftykinsfunkt: yeah that'll be why it doesn't work then. run "sudo chown -R yourusername: /path/to/mount/"19:53
danilkoubottu, so I installed a bin for a different version of ubuntu?19:53
ubottudanilko: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:53
daftykinslolz19:53
wilee-nileefunkt, checkout the chmod. http://askubuntu.com/questions/252361/how-could-i-mount-an-ext4-partition-and-have-write-permission19:54
danilkoblueskaj, so I installed a version of libnotify1 for a differnt version of ubuntu?19:54
cildanilko: others have installed the older libnotify version, and have got symphony to work.  Slow to start apparently.19:54
danilkocil, I am testing my first run19:55
iljuschinhello everyone! today all my filesystem was made read-only. I asked for advice here, and it was suggested that hard disk could be damaged, hence linux would start system as read-only. since my hard disk showed also bad sectors, I was strongly advised to replace the hard disk. later when I ran "fix broken" in grub's recovery menu, it streamed a number of command lines ending with "FIXED", and subsequently the read-only mode was gone. (j19:55
iljuschinust prior to doing this fix, I even had problem starting ubuntu in the normal mode).19:55
iljuschingosh, it's been such a long post19:55
iljuschinthe question is, if the read-only was really related to hard disk, if so, how could it be fixed with recovery mode?19:56
daftykinsiljuschin: i'm not entirely sure what you're asking19:57
funkthey there thank you but its saying I am an invalid user?19:58
iljuschindaftykins, sorry, rephrasing here: if I had a read-only system today because of a hard-disk damage, how could it be fixed by starting recovery menu and running "fix broken"? I'm trying to figure the reason of the problem I had today19:58
daftykinsiljuschin: well it could reallocate the data if anything was written into the bad sectors19:59
iljuschintoday all my files were read-only. I couldn't move or change them.19:59
iljuschinuntil I did the referred fix19:59
OerHeksiljuschin, recovery starts before mounting the partition, so that is why it is able to fix19:59
danilkocil, it works. Ubuntu 13.04, with libnotify1 from lucid.. Not slow, as far as I can tell. Pops right up.19:59
iljuschindaftykins, OerHeks; but if it was something that can be fixed by applying fix, then my hard disk's state sounds not to be related to anything that causes a read-only start of the system, does it?20:01
haysis upgrading to 13 on a laptop probably going to be smooth or will i likely have issues20:01
kostkon!info libnotify raring20:02
ubottuPackage libnotify does not exist in raring20:02
cildanilko: nice =)  others have tried it, and moved over to libreoffice20:02
kostkon!info libnotify lucid20:02
ubottuPackage libnotify does not exist in lucid20:02
OerHeksiljuschin, it is possible it does, wait for the next error20:02
iljuschinin other words, it is still the same hard disk, but the problem is gone now.20:02
Dr_Willisiljuschin:  if theres a bad problem detected with the filesystem, the OS will kick it over to 'read only mode' to prevent any more damage. a fsck then can hopefully repair it.20:04
iljuschinOerHeks: so files are possibly temporarily reallocated until the bad sectors create trouble again20:04
Dr_Willisiljuschin:  it might have been due to hardware issue. or just some odd software quirk20:04
Dr_Willisiljuschin:  yes. the bad sectord can get worked around. but i would be making a backup and keepinmg an eye on that drive in the future.20:05
iljuschinDr_Willis: I spent the rest of my afternoon doing it :)20:05
Dr_WillisI take all my 'some whats suspect' hard drives.. and put videos on them . for the kids media players they have in their rooms. ;) if the HDs die.. no big loss.20:06
iljuschinDr_Willis: I was today recommended to discard the hard disk, yet it has just 2 bad sectors.20:06
Dr_Willisi often find it has a domino effect. ;)20:06
Dr_Willisid keep an eye on it. and be sure to keep backups.20:07
iljuschinfunny, I also thought about videos for another suspicious drive20:07
OerHeksbad sectors are likely to spread.20:08
kostkoniljuschin, generally you don't want your drive to get bad sectors because if it does things can get worse rapidly20:08
* BluesKaj avoids the bad sector bandwagon :)20:09
iljuschinkostkon, yes, I've witnessed it once. Dr_Willis: therefore I feel like totally abandoning their mission-critical use, since I get always this feeling that something will not be fully saved or backed up while using them20:10
danilkocil, I have libreoffice too. I wanted to explore.. You know do it cause I can. I installed Skype and Opera and working on a whole laundry list of apps, over time. \20:11
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* cjwelborn is bored20:19
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mdghbrhnI downloaded the .pdf version of the 12.04 lts server documentation and it is about 390 pages, I am newbie, does it worth to go through it from the beginning?20:20
bekksmdghbrhn: You could have gone through about 100 pages since the first time you asked.20:21
bekksmdghbrhn: No one in here will read it for you.20:21
[FreeBSD]mdghbrhn: its probably best learning the things you actually need to do as you go20:22
Soe1enhello everyone, I have a quick question, I'm binding a remote disk via gvfs-mount ssh://username@host, for some reason it always mounts the root directory, is this normal?20:22
mdghbrhnbekks: I are so cruel :( lol hehehehehe20:22
norman15hey, maby someone of you can help me. i look at the site pastebin.cc but i see  an index of site. Why?20:22
[FreeBSD]mdghbrhn: reading a load of stuff without using it probably wont make much sense20:22
Gamer1990hello20:23
kostkonGamer1990, hi20:23
mdghbrhn[FreeBSD]: I need to manage the vps, and this is why I felt lost with all these info like bekks says :(20:23
Gamer1990how do i upgrade to 13.10 through the terminal?20:23
bekksmdghbrhn: Then start reading the server guide finally.20:23
kostkonGamer1990, then you need to head to #ubuntu+120:24
bekksmdghbrhn: I will not comment on that anymore. If you want to learn, learn. If you dont, do not.20:24
Gamer1990hold on20:24
Dr_Willismdghbrhn:  print it out.. stick it in the bathroom.  read some every day.. and eat a lot of fiber.20:24
Dr_WillisSoe1en:  you might want to look into the 'sshfs' tool if you want finer control20:25
Soe1enDr_Willis: thanks man, read about it several times, it's just, a half year ago I could have sworn gvfs-mount etc. would do as well20:26
Soe1enguess I just remember it wrong20:26
tp43How do you turn off popups and updates?  I emptied the source.list file and they still coming up20:30
danilkoHas anyone played with Apache Open Office?20:30
ikoniadanilko: Apache Open Office ? what ?20:31
danilkoikonia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice20:32
Ben64tp43: you know updates help keep your system safe.. its a bad idea to disable20:32
tp43Ben64, but its a kiosk20:32
danilkoikonia, it replaces Lotus Symphony and OOO Open office, from Sun/Oracle\20:32
ikoniadanilko: oh, it's just open office20:32
tozentp43: update-manager20:32
OerHeksjust open office with the apache license20:32
ikoniadanilko: that's been around for ages,20:32
ikoniadanilko: people seem to be leaning more towards libre office these days,20:33
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danilkoIt seems to be a new fork  Currently in development20:33
ikoniadanilko: nah, still the same website20:33
ikoniadanilko: development didn't end on it, looks like they just changed the licnse.20:33
danilkoI know libre office is popular, because it's preinstalled20:34
danilkoikonia...20:34
danilkooj20:34
danilkooh20:34
Hodappand OpenOffice.org in turn used to be StarOffice or whatever...20:35
danilkoohh I forgot.. I photoshop equivalent...20:35
Gnarlyapache openoffice merged the ibm code into it20:36
Gnarlyfrom what i saw in some screenshots, it appears you can do a symphony esc interface with the sidebar and such20:36
danilkoAt least with Libre Office you don't have to load the whole thing to get to a document. It's more modularized20:38
tp43tozen, my boss said he looked in the update mananger, and couldn't find the option to turn off updates and pop up20:39
tp43is it possible to remove the gnome desktop and just run firefox from the text terminal20:40
sixyears-tp43 im sure its possible20:40
XMLNewbiIm seeing a lot of backup tools with gui's, but whats a fast easy backup for a server over ssh20:40
bekkstp43: You need an X server.20:40
bekkstp43: And its not worth the efforts.20:41
tp43removing gnome would remove X20:41
Ben64tp43: you may want something like this http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Kiosk/Introduction20:41
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panurotoi'm going to try to install aircrack-ng on ubuntu 12.04, any simple n accurate way to do it guys? tks20:43
tp43thx20:43
ikoniapanuroto: get package, install package20:44
danilkoOMG, I am reading the speggetti history of StarOffice, OpenOffice, Symphony, and LibreOffice.  They are all brothers it turns out.20:45
Tophnautilus had the F3 function which divided the window . The new Files under 13.04 lacks this,,, anyway to restore it?20:45
Soe1en/leave20:46
danilkospaghetti (spfix)20:46
Walexdanilko: the *current* Symphony. The name Symphony used to denote a rather different things some time ago20:46
danilkoWalex, yeah It's not the same. But anything past 2000, is all related that and then there's MS Office, which is evil.20:47
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Dr_WillisToph: thats not the only feature they removed. There are/were some unofficial nautilus ppa's that restored some of the lost/removed features20:49
Dr_Willistp43:  removeing gnome - would not remove X.20:50
chsadoscan anyone point me to noob instructions on installing my ATI HD 4890 in ubuntu 12.0.4.320:52
chsadosdrivers*20:52
TophDr_Willis,,, i am in the process of downloading Nemo,, is that wise?20:53
honestlychsados: sudo apt-get install fglrx20:53
chsadosthats it honestly?20:53
honestlyhonestly.20:53
chsadosthanks broseph!20:54
chsadosany other things you guys automatically do after a fresh install of ubuntu?  I feel like there should be a better system file browser that is gui based20:55
Dr_WillisToph:  never used it. so no idea20:55
TorpedoSkylineHey guys, I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit and I'm having an issue with thumbnails. Whenever I go into my pictures folder, all I get is a bunch of ungenerated thumbnails and my CPU skyrockets to 100%... anything I can do here?20:55
TorpedoSkylineNautilus, new install of Ubuntu, nVidia graphics20:55
TophDr_Willis,,, ok,,, thanks20:56
Dr_WillisToph:  i tend to stick to 'original' ubuntu setup as much as possible. since i do so much support in here. :) If i had everything patched/altered. that would make it harder for me to verify bugs20:56
tozenchsados: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras20:56
TophDr_Willis,,, yes, I understand20:57
tozenchsados: sudo apt-get install gnome-commander20:57
chsadostozen what does gnome commander do?20:57
Dr_Willisgnome-0commandder is a 2 pane file manager i recall20:58
chsadosoh ok cool20:58
Dr_Willistheres dozens of differnt file managers out there.20:58
chsadoswhat do you like dr_willis20:58
tozenchsados:  don't you ask about alternate file manager?20:58
chsadosi was fond of the windows file manager20:58
Dr_WillisI tend to use 'mc' for most of my needs20:58
chsadosyes thanks tozen20:58
chsados'mc' ?20:59
Tophthe feature I used and liked the most in Nautilus was the F3 pane divide20:59
Dr_Willishttp://www.tuxarena.com/2011/06/20-file-managers-for-ubuntu/ a little out of date20:59
tozenDr_Willis: mc for newbie is tooooo hard ;)20:59
Dr_WillisToph:  may as well use  a 2 pane file manager then20:59
Tophyes20:59
* Dr_Willis dosent worry about making things easy for beginners. ;) they get to much attention as it is.21:00
tozenDr_Willis: ok21:00
Dr_WillisToph:  i just found this also --> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/get-nautilus-34-features-back-in-ubuntu.html21:03
Dr_WillisToph:  that usesd a patched nautilus, instead of replaceing nautiuls with nemo21:04
chsadosis there a more advanced system settings menu?  i think i remembe reading months ago that there is a more advanced one21:05
jackarghi I'm having problems with steam. clicking on the icon and even launching it from the command line will not make it open. any ideas?21:06
Dr_Willischsados:  to set what? I cant recall ever seeing an advanced ond.21:06
gordonjcpjackarg: what happens when you try to run it from the command line?21:08
nantouis there any image viewer that shows images recursively? I mean I have a pictures folder and inside several subdirectories. I dont want to sort em by date or place, but just by the folder name, and I want to see em all recursively, not separated by subdirectory, as gthumb does21:10
jackarggordonjcp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6107672/21:10
nantouI want the regular, normal sized pictures, no thumbnails or catalogs21:10
Ressy_does anyone know how to get the webcam working on a packard bell easynote ?21:14
mirjamdoes anyone know how to change server21:15
kostkonmirjam, as in irc server?21:15
mirjamyeah21:15
kostkonmirjam, /server server_ip or domain_name21:16
mirjamand other settings in here?21:16
kostkonmirjam, e.g. /server irc.example.com21:16
mirjamwhere i can find them21:16
kostkonmirjam, what other settings exactly?21:16
mirjamchanging irc nick for example?21:17
jackargI'll ask again, steam won't launch for me, whether I click the icon, launch from terminal, even after reinstalling...please does anyone know what's up?21:17
mirjamis it the same as in any other irc client?21:17
kostkonmirjam, either use the facilities provided by your irc client to do that or see /ns help21:17
mirjamoh ok thanks :)21:17
mirjamand how do i disconnect from here?21:18
Ressy_does anyone know how to get the webcam working on a packard bell easynote ?21:19
kostkonjackarg, ask also in #ubuntu-steam.  run it from the terminal, pastebin any output for anyone who might want to help you21:20
anonymous_hi21:22
jgkhi anonymous_21:23
jackargkostkon thanks i'll try but...this is just strange. it says it's running from the terminal yet nothing shows21:23
anonymous_This is for?21:23
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anonymous_This is for what?xD21:24
wilee-nileeRessy_, Install cheese and see if that gets it working.21:25
Ressy_i did21:25
Ressy_it didnt fix21:25
anonymous_what are you talking about'???xD21:25
wilee-nileeRessy_, Cool, be sure to name what you have tried already is all.21:25
Ressy_np21:25
kostkonjackarg, that's strange yes21:26
Ressy_it says usb2.0 camera in preferences21:26
kostkonanonymous_, see the topic. support channel for the Ubuntu operating system21:27
Ressy_wilee-nilee, lsbusb shows Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0402:5602 ALi Corp. M5602 Video Camera Controller21:27
wilee-nileeRessy_, Suggesting cheeses about my limitation of knowledge here. ;)21:28
wilee-nileecheese is*21:28
Ressy_that's cool21:28
Ressy_anyone else here can help?21:28
chsadoshey honestly, you still here?  that gflx install took away my 1920x1080 resolution21:30
wylde_Ressy_: what's the output of ls /dev/video*21:30
chsadoscan anyone help me i did the command [sudo apt-get install fglrx] in attempt to get drivers for my ATI HD 4890 and just did a reboot and now the display in system settings is only detecting one monitor and now highest resolution is 1280x102421:32
Ressy_wylde_,  /dev/video021:32
goawUpdate Manager is returning "*Bump ABI". Any suggestions for the fix?21:33
lithiumelectroI seed some help regarding mount --bind21:34
wylde_Ressy_: do you have vlc installed? if you you could test with 'vlc v4l2:///dev/video0'21:34
lithiumelectroseek*21:35
wylde_*you do21:35
wilee-nileegoaw, You see a partial upgrade there?21:35
kostkongoaw, where does it show that msg? or just give us a shot of update manager showing the problem21:35
Ressy_just installing vlc21:36
lithiumelectroI did something wrong and inverted the source and the destination folder I wanted to mound --bind /var/www to /home/lithiume3/code , code was an empty folder now my www point to nothing and if I cd /var/www/ its empty -___- I think I might have over writen all my files or something21:37
trismlithiumelectro: you can probably just: umount /var/www;21:39
Dr_Willislithiumelectro:  unmount it - and it should go back to as it was21:39
Ressy_wylde_, what am i supposed to see21:40
Dr_Willismounting OVER a directory containing data. will 'hide' that data in the directory from what ive seen21:40
bray90820When was the first stable build of ubuntu to have unity21:40
lithiumelectrotrism I tried to umount the /var/www that was pointing to code and did nothing but when I df I see other /var/www may I past the result of the df here to seek more help?21:40
lithiumelectroi dont want to umount something that will broke my vps more -___-21:40
tom_5803Hi everybody ;21:41
trismlithiumelectro: might be better to paste: mount;21:41
Dr_Willis Unity as the default user interface instead of GNOME Shell, beginning April 2011, with Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)21:41
Ressy_wylde_, VLC media player 2.0.8 Twoflower (revision 2.0.8a-0-g68cf50b)21:41
Ressy_[0x828f908] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.21:41
Ressy_^Clibv4l2: error dequeuing buf: Input/output error21:41
Ressy_libv4l2: error dequeuing buf: Input/output error21:41
Ressy_libv4l2: error dequeuing buf: Input/output error21:41
Ressy_libv4l2: error dequeuing buf: Input/output error21:41
FloodBot1Ressy_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:41
Dr_Willishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28user_interface%2921:41
bray90820Dr_Willis: Thank you21:41
lithiumelectrotrism http://paste.ubuntu.com/6107803/21:42
lithiumelectrothank you21:42
trismlithiumelectro: looks like you just mounted your / on /var/www (several times), you might just need to umount two more times from /var/www21:44
trismlithiumelectro: but I don't really know much about openvz21:45
Listhello?21:45
goawthanks kostkon & wilee-nilee... I'll post it on imagebin. sec...21:45
lithiumelectrotrism so umount /var/www21:45
trismlithiumelectro: yes two more times21:45
* lithiumelectro cross fingers21:45
lithiumelectrothanks for the help btw its really appreciated <321:46
lithiumelectroHOLY !!!!!21:46
lithiumelectrotrism I <3 U21:46
threex5Please help, I installed 12.04 from a usb onto a new windows 8 laptop (after disabling secure boot in bios) in a spare partition, and when I restart i get grub command line. Where do I go from here?21:47
NeoGeo64Please help, how do I activate my copy of Ubuntu 13.04 and verify that it is genuine?21:48
ikoniaNeoGeo64: you don't activate it21:48
Base-Dev!21:48
ikoniaNeoGeo64: you where supposed to validate the install media before installing it21:48
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goawhttp://imagebin.org/27093721:49
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angsI have some ubuntu-desktop PCs that I would like to remotely connect and use the PC as teamviewer allows. how can I do that?21:56
unknown101!java21:56
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.21:56
bekksangs: Install the teamviewer software.21:57
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eapsebastianDoes anyone know how to exit out of irssi?21:57
angsbekks, free version of teamviewer allows to connect a node for a limited time21:57
qineapsebastian: /quit21:57
eapsebastianThanks21:58
angsI am looking for a program that does not have such limitations21:58
qinangs: vnc21:58
bekksangs: nxclient/nxserver21:58
qinangs: or Xorg over ssh21:58
angswhich one would you recommend out of these options?21:59
bekksXorg over ssh is awfully slow.21:59
bekksangs: nxclient/nxserver21:59
angssimpler  is the better21:59
angsthanks21:59
Base-Devangs, TightVNC22:00
Dr_Willisis this over the intenet, or a Local Network?22:00
bray90820Does SSH come preinstalled on ubuntu22:00
bekksvnc isnt encrypted at all.22:00
Dr_WillisBry8Star:  ssh server - No.22:00
wylde_bray90820: the client does22:00
Dr_WillisBry8Star:  it Might on the server edition. ive never noticed22:00
angsit is over the internet22:00
Dr_Willisoops ;)22:00
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bekksangs: Then dont use VNC as its not safe.22:01
Dr_Willis!vnc22:01
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX22:01
wylde_unless tunneled through ssh22:01
bray90820could I connect to someones computer running ubuntu 12.04 from a mac if i had there IP address22:01
bray90820without them installing any other software22:01
bekkswylde_: And even tunneled, it is awfully slow.22:01
wylde_bekks: very true, I was only addressing the security comment ;)22:01
bray90820wylde_: could I connect to someones computer running ubuntu 12.04 from a mac if i had there IP address without them installing any other software22:02
Dr_Willisbray90820:  without other software -  Not that i know of. the normal Ubuntu Desktop shareing. is mainl for local lans. it can do vnc. but you would have to setup a tunnle i belive22:02
wylde_bray90820: `only if they were running server software at their end to connect to22:02
bray90820Dr_Willis: what i wanted to do was copy files from there computer to mine22:02
Dr_Willisbray90820:   You dont need a desktop for that.. ssh and any ssh client can handle that task22:03
Dr_Willisbray90820:  vnc and destop shareing - dosent have file transfers as far as i know. ;)22:03
wylde_bray90820: not matter what there has to be a server and a client. If they have no sort of server listening for your connection request, you can't connect22:03
wylde_*no22:03
Dr_Willisbiggest issue may be how to get the Ports forwarered through any routers they may have.22:04
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bray90820sever on my end client on there end?22:04
bray90820would that work22:04
Dr_Willisbray90820:  have theim install the sshd service. and see if you can connect22:04
Dr_Willis!ssh22:04
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)22:04
wylde_bray90820: server = machine being connected to, client = machine connecting to server. And .... what Dr_Willis said22:05
bray90820I just want to connect to there computer without them having to install any other software22:05
bray90820then what stock ubuntu comes with22:05
bray90820i can install software on my end22:05
Dr_Willisbray90820:  thats NOT going to happen.  you will want to install  the ssh server - if you want to just transfer files22:05
Base-Devbray90820, this is all http://gizmodo.com/5990192/vpns-what-they-do-how-they-work-and-why-youre-dumb-for-not-using-one22:05
wylde_bray90820: won't happen unless they already have a server be it samba, nfs, ssh etc.22:05
qin!nc22:06
Dr_Willisthink about the 'security' problems what you are asking to do. ;)22:06
bray90820could i do vnc without installing any other software?22:06
wylde_bray90820: no22:06
Bauer1guys, can anyone help me here with a TrueCrypt volume? I have deleted some files to free space, but df still shows as 0 bytes free, even after dismounting and re-mounting the truecrypt volume22:06
bray90820alright22:06
bray90820that's all the info i needed22:06
Dr_Willisbray90820:  not really vnc either.  and their ROUTER may be blocking a lot of things. so it may need setup also22:06
bray90820that's all the info i needed22:06
bray90820Thanks22:06
bray90820I'll just have them install teamviewer and take it from there22:07
MonkeytoeHow do I mount a gpt disk that is ntfs located at /dev/sdb1. I tried mount /deb/sdb1 /mnt/storage -t ntfs-3g    and got NTFS signature is missing22:07
bekksMonkeytoe: Then its not NTFS.22:07
GuidoPallemansis there an irc channel for ubuntu.com website-stuff?22:07
Monkeytoeanyway to find out what filesystem its using from the command line?22:08
wylde_GuidoPallemans: define website stuff?22:08
MonkeytoeI was almost sure it was ntfs22:08
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bekksMonkeytoe: sudo blkid -g; sudo blkid22:08
GuidoPallemanswylde_: I got this bug uploading an app: http://imgur.com/9t8ZdMD22:09
GuidoPallemanswylde: ^22:09
Monkeytoe/dev/sdb2: LABEL="STORAGE" UUID="7C7889D07889899A" TYPE="NTFS"22:09
wyldeGuidoPallemans: ahh I see. Is the problem persisting?22:10
wyldeGuidoPallemans: meaning you've waited a little bit and tried again?22:10
GuidoPallemansyup, also tried in firefox, no luck22:10
wyldeGuidoPallemans: ahh ok. Moment22:10
GuidoPallemanswylde: I only get 1 server error when I just upload the click package and not the source22:11
Base-Devwhy is opera not in repos?22:11
Dr_WillisBase-Dev:  it was in the partners repo at one time22:11
Dr_Willis!opera22:12
ubottuOpera is an advanced, fast and free (as in beer) web browser. It is packaged for easy installation into Ubuntu. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser22:12
kostkonGuidoPallemans, try in #ubuntu-touch and/or #ubuntu-app-devel22:12
wyldeGuidoallemans: yep, only one upload to fail ;)22:12
Monkeytoeah figured it out22:12
aquariusI have here a reasonably old Sony Vaio. It was running karmic (!); I upgraded to lucid (went fine) and then to precise. It will now not properly start X: I get a mouse cursor, but just a blue screen. When this "X" is started, I cannot switch to a VC; all I can do is restart. The machine has nvidia graphics and is running nouveau. I'm not sure where to start fixing this: I'll happily install the nvidia drivers, but i22:12
aquariuscan't get into the desktop to run the restricted driver wizard or start the network!22:12
iljuschinsorry, I had to be away meanwhile..22:13
dhyanam22:13
lisberoia-artigudoes anyone here know how to develop a GRUB?22:14
iljuschinbut how long does a hard disk last?..22:14
wyldeaquarius: the "additional-drivers" can be run from commandline using jockey-text. The network is something else though22:14
Dr_Willisaquarius:  try booting to text mode. and 'apt-get install nvidia-current' perhaps22:14
aquariusDr_Willis, how do I boot to text mode? I can boot into *recovery* mode, but there I don't have a network connection; it's just a simple root prompt.22:14
Dr_Willisiljuschin:  ive had hard drives be 20+ yrs old and still going.. and had new ones last 3 months ;)22:14
Dr_Willis!text | aquarius22:14
ubottuaquarius: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode22:14
aquariusaha! thank you Dr_Willis :)22:15
Dr_Willisaquarius:  you on wired or wireless network?22:15
aquariuswylde, I didn't know about jockey-text; that's going to be really useful too, once I have the network up22:15
aquariusDr_Willis, wireless22:15
aquarius(annoyingly, for this case :))22:15
kostkoniljuschin, for me i think it's completely random. as Dr_Willis already said some last 30 years some 3 days22:15
iljuschinDr_Willis; so the quality worsened with new ones?22:15
Dr_Willistheres also the network manager cli tool.22:15
Dr_Willisiljuschin:  look at it this way.. the ones from 20+ years ago are like Model T's.. the ones today are  Jet Fighters. ;)22:16
lithiumelectroI have a weird problem that if I creat a symbolic link in my /home/lithiume3 dir that points to /var/www I can't access it via FTP even if the chown is for the user and the chmod is 777, So I want to mound --bind the /var/www would the correct syntax would be --> mount --bind /var/www /home/lithiume3/www/22:16
alastor__hi, i was trying to see whether there was a new release upgrade for my ubuntu version (i'm running 13.04), so I ran "do-release-upgrade -d" (no sudo) but it started downloading more stuff than I had counted on, so I killed the process because I didn't want any actual changes to take place... now, a few days later, if I run apt-get update and the upgrade i'm told there's tons of available upgrade amounting to 500MB... if I run apt-22:16
Dr_Willisiljuschin:  quality has improved i imagine. its just so much more demand and tight tollerances22:16
iljuschinI've had my third hard disk breakdown in a year. ok, one was my failure. but the other two just got bad sectors (ok, one after 4 years, the other I don't know how long, because it was used)22:16
alastor__system to be upgrade as if I'd installed a new version release?22:16
kostkoniljuschin, i think on average they *should* last 5-6 years22:17
Dr_Willisiljuschin:   ive had se3veral hds replaced under warrenty ;) many sites you just go and enter the serial # and they will  let you know how old they are. and often replace them22:17
wilee-nileealastor__, 13.10 is a development22:17
wilee-nileeNot a release yet22:18
kostkoniljuschin, but it's not rare at all to find 10y+ hdds in peoples old pcs from the 90s that are still in use for one reason or another22:18
alastor__wilee-nilee: what does that mean? why do I see tons of new upgrades available for apt-get upgrade then? (i'm on 13.04)22:18
aquariusDr_Willis, in grub, I (e)dit the command line (which is the one beginning "kernel", yes? there are four; root (hd0,0), kernel <lots of stuff>, initrd <pathname>, quiet. The one I want to edit is the kernel one?) and just put "text" on the end of it? (That ubottu URL sadly isn't there; the BootOptions page is, but it doesn't mention text mode a all.)22:18
wilee-nileealastor__ Ubuntu has updates all the time22:19
bejkerhi22:19
alastor__wilee-nilee: but i think it's a bit odd that all of a sudden 500MB worth uf upgrades appear after I run do-release-upgrade -d, no?22:19
iljuschinDr_Willis, kostkon; I also still have warranty for the current one. but now wondering whether that I removed Windows which was pre-installed will be a problem when demanding a replacement.22:20
wilee-nileealastor__, daily generally22:20
Dr_Willisaquarius:  look for 'quiet splash' and make it 'noquiet text nosplash'22:20
aquariusDr_Willis, cool, thank you.22:20
* aquarius rtfm on nmcli now :)22:20
bejkercan someone tel me how to automatic mount other swap file frome diferent hdd?22:20
kostkoniljuschin, as long as you reinstall windows before giving it for a service repair you should be fine22:20
bejkerfrom*22:20
Dr_Willisiljuschin:  id go buy a new hd and try to image that one to it. and swap it out... then try to get a replacement.22:20
Dr_Willisiljuschin:  if the HD came with the PC. they may expect you to return the whole pc. - thats often not worth the effort22:21
kostkoniljuschin, actually, you meant the hdd or your pc?22:21
Dr_Willisreplaceiing a HD is about the easiest hardware task to do on pcs these days22:21
iljuschinDr_Willis, the HD came with the PC. I meant that PC has still warranty.22:21
wilee-nileealastor__ that is a distro upgrade, not odd at all22:21
kostkoniljuschin, the pc ok22:22
iljuschinkostkon, yes22:22
Dr_Willisbejker:  you make a fstab entry for the swap partions you want to use22:22
bejkeryes, but what comand for that?22:22
alastor__wilee-nilee: but, shouldn't do-release-upgrade -d only "show" whether a new release is available, rather than do any actual changes?22:22
bejkerif i habve swap on /dev/sdb222:22
wilee-nileealastor__, what made you run that command?22:22
bejkerhave*22:22
Dr_Willisiljuschin:  ive found that warrenties on the whole pc are often.. well.. useless. ;) too many loopholes. and easier to fix myself.22:23
Dr_Willis!swap  | bejker22:23
ubottubejker: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info22:23
Dr_Willisbejker:  look at the /etc/fstab file and see the example swap lines if any22:23
alastor__wilee-nilee: to see whether there was a new ubuntu version available *without downloading it*22:23
bejkeri know 4 what is swap22:23
Dr_Willis!fstab | bejker22:23
ubottubejker: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions22:23
iljuschinDr_Willis, kostkon ; I dont have the disc version of the very Windows that was pre-installed, but I have the same Windows version on recovery disc from another computer. would they realise it if I installed the other PC's Windows?22:23
wilee-nileealastor_-, it won't do  any unless you okay it.22:24
Dr_Willisiljuschin:  no idea. I alwasy make a dvd-restore set on any new pc i get. and often clone the HD to a 2nd external hd for backup22:24
bejker# swap was on /dev/sdb5 during installation22:24
bejker#UUID=14a2d79a-abd5-4015-9f30-e7ec4f1d2c5e none            swap    sw         $22:24
bejkerbut i have second swap22:24
kostkoniljuschin, hmm i guess not, if you use the license key that came with your current pc22:24
bejkeri have just 1gb ram22:24
Dr_Willisbejker:  so you use that UUID line as an exaple. and change the uuid # . and remove the # comment at the front22:24
bejkersecond i have on /dev/sdb222:24
bejkerhow to mount that automaticly22:25
bejkerlike crypytswap122:25
Dr_Willis  You can use UUID=   or the /dev/sdb2 type name. but UUID is the better way to define it.22:25
iljuschinkostkon, well, I'll try if they replace it22:25
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Dr_Willisno idea on cryptswap.  but normal swap. You just have a proper line in fstab and system sees it at boot time22:25
alastor__wilee-nilee: ok thanks for explaining... i just hope everything goes ok22:26
bejkerand how to check UUID ?22:26
wilee-nileealastor__, did you hit the yes to upgrade?22:26
Dr_Willisbejker:  i think the !fstab and !swap urls the  bot gave explain it.22:27
Dr_Willis!uuid | bejker22:27
ubottubejker: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)22:27
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iljuschinactually I'd once thought I'd be quite happy working with live usb, but it turned out painfully slow..even though I'd bought a rather fast stick back then.22:27
alastor__no, I don't remember doing so... now I ran apt-get upgrade and am waiting for everything to download...22:27
Dr_Willisiljuschin:  ;) ive ran from a live usb for several months on a netbook. ;) it depends on what you do with it.22:27
alastor__wilee-nilee: ^22:27
wilee-nileealastor__, if it is downloading you can stop it22:28
iljuschinDr_Willis, sure. but I was doing really normal work, also on netbook. and when I sometime reverted to HD install, the difference was visible, specially regarding netbook's performance limits.22:28
gregor3005hi, i bought some audio cd's and get an download for the music also as audio-files from amazon. i don't get it how i can download a album with clamz. can anybody help or is there another way which works22:29
gregor3005?22:29
Wednesdayi heard Windows 8 can boot up in 2 seconds, is this also true for Ubuntu?22:29
bekksWednesday: It isnt true for Windows, too.22:29
aquariusjockey-text -l lists three nvidia drivers (173, 304, and 96), each of which also has a _updates version. How do I know which one my machine requires?22:29
Wednesdaywith an SSD22:29
bekksWednesday: Not even with an SSD.22:30
wilee-nileeWensday, that is windows fast boot, I get about 15 with a ssd22:30
Dr_Willisiljuschin:  get a SSD for that netbook. ;) and you will get amazed. :) looking at doing that here.. but the ssd costs more then the netbook22:32
Dr_Willisand its just hard to justify a ssd in a netbook22:33
iljuschinDr_Willis, :-)22:33
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wilee-nilee256 gig ssd was 200$ here22:33
Dr_Willisgregor3005:  well.. I do recall on my android phone. it let me download them to my phone.22:34
iljuschinDr_Willis, maybe wait till SSD prices normalize22:34
wilee-nileeWorth every cent22:34
Dr_Williswilee-nilee:  for my $100 netbook ;P22:34
wilee-nileeWhy  ot22:34
wilee-nileeNot22:34
Dr_Willisim not even sure what type of Hd fits in ot.. or how much i have to rip it appart22:34
wilee-nilee;)22:35
Dr_WillisIf someone breaks/steals/damages the netbok.. out $100  - lose it with the ssd - out $300 ;P22:35
Dr_Willisall i do with it is IRC from work when i dont want to get out my tablet.22:35
caeliangoodnight!22:35
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Dr_Willisand its work time.. bbl22:35
wilee-nileeTrue, I only take my nexus out and the csll22:36
wilee-nileeCell^22:36
iljuschindoes it necessarily damage HD to carry the laptop in suspended mode?22:37
alastor__after running do-release upgrade -d for ubuntu 13.10... just running apt-get upgrade every now and then will keep me up to date with new developments, correct?22:37
Zigndwell I think that with the Ubuntu Edge there will no more reason for caring a laptop22:38
wilee-nileealastor__, yep22:38
dhyanahello wilee-nilee22:38
dhyana;)22:38
dhyana:)22:38
bekksZignd: If it will be built, ever. :)22:38
alastor__wilee-nilee: ty22:38
wilee-nileeZignd, There is no edge, just the touch22:38
nisstyreZignd: yeah but you will still need an external screen and keyboard22:39
wilee-nileeNo problem22:39
nisstyreand then possibly a usb hub thingy22:39
ZigndI hope it get built, that will be first thing I'm going to buy with my salary. And I will not need to be afraid of having my bag stolen22:40
bekksZignd: You hiope you'll get it for $10 then ;)22:40
TimvdeI can't seem to change settings for some reason, neither through system settings, nor dconf-editor22:41
CH33ZBURGERyou could try #openssh22:42
wilee-nileeTimvde, name tour settings to change22:42
wilee-nileeyour22:42
Zigndbekks, maybe after storing my salary of 3 months I will get the enough money.22:42
bekksZignd: I'll be afraid of getting that stolen in my bag.22:43
Timvdewilee-nilee: I wanted to disable the lock screen when the screen goes black, but I can't seem to change anything else either.22:43
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wilee-nileeTimvde, lock screen go to the brightness app22:43
Timvdewilee-nilee: I know *where* to change it, the thing is that Ubuntu doesn't let me.22:44
alastor__is a new ubuntu version just a collection of new packages or is there something more to it?22:44
Zigndbekks, I'm considering storing it on my socks22:44
bekksZignd: Your phone? :)22:44
wilee-nileeTimvde, you on aadmin22:44
Zigndbekks, exactly! :D22:45
bekksalastor__: It is a new collection of packages.22:45
BlackWebIs anyone here familiar with VSFTP22:45
Timvdewilee-nilee: It's a sudoers account, if that's what you mean22:45
bekksBlackWeb: Why?22:45
Timvdewilee-nilee: Default install in regard to user accounts22:45
wilee-nileeTimvde, I suspect it is just you understanding but that is a guess we don't know what you have tweaked22:47
BlackWebk I have a question, I have a PC setup as a FTP server, & thats access-able  over the Internet So I'm using a Passive IP in the config File. So my question is most ISP have a Download limit per month, But if I have another PC on the SAME LAN, & Point it to my WAN IP & access the FTP server Does my ISP see it as Traffic on WAN22:47
bekksBlackWeb: Yes.22:47
Timvdewilee-nilee: Barely anything. It's a default install I set up for my parents. I just installed some extra software. If you want some command output though, feel free to ask and I'll give it to you :)22:47
BlackWebSo even though  both PC's are on LAN the Traffic  is be counted as if its coming from WAN22:48
wilee-nileeTimvde, I'm on my nexus7 so a bit limited us all.22:49
geniiBlackWeb: Becuase the traffic goes out to ISP dns server, then goes to whatever gateway your outward facing IP uses, then back in22:49
wylde_BlackWeb: not if the traffic stays on your lan. Other than that....what genii said.22:49
wilee-nileeI'm all thumbs,lol22:49
bekksBlackWeb: Connect the second PC to the LAN IP of your box.22:49
bekksBlackWeb: No need to send traffic to your ISP.22:50
BlackWebSo I should configure FTP server to not use passive IP, Then point Local PC to the Servers LAN IP to Do transfers, Then after I'm done revert settings of FTP Server to use Passive IP Again?22:50
Timvdewilee-nilee: Oh, I might have got something :) I opened gnome-system-settings from terminal, and it says "failed to commit changes to dconf: (error code): Cannot open dconf database: infalid gvdb header22:50
* Timvde googles in the meantime22:50
bekksBlackWeb: Whats a passive IP?22:51
bekksBlackWeb: You are mixing up active/passive FTP with WAN/LAN IP.22:51
TimvdeMeh, he's gone. Anyway, found it, yay :)22:52
BlackWebSo in order to have FTP Server accessible over WAN, I need to set it up with Passive IP, The Passive IP is the WAN IP of the Network..  So if WAN IP is 24.08.45.15  Then I configure FTP server to use Passive 24.08.45.15, But its Local IP is say 192.168.1.4,   So I'm able to access it over WAN with the passive settings.   But I want a LOCAL PC to access it thats on the SAME LAN, So Since passive is enabled I cant point Local PC to th22:54
BlackWebe Servers Local IP I have to Point it to My WAN IP22:54
bekksBlackWeb: There is no such thing as "passive IP".22:55
bekksBlackWeb: Having a LAN IP of 192.168.1.4, configure your FTP client to connect to that IP, not to your WAN IP.22:56
BlackWebAlright Sounds Good, Thanks :)22:56
CH33ZBURGERthen open the ftp port on your router and point it to your internal ip22:57
bekksWrong.22:57
bekksNo need to touch the router at all.22:57
BlackWebAlright Thanks Everyone :)22:59
qinBlackWeb: even better restrict ftp to accept only connection from 192.168.*.* pool. as long you do not need to access your server from "outside" internet22:59
BlackWebqin through use of IPTABLES23:00
CH33ZBURGERhe wants to access ftp from outside no?23:00
bekksCH33ZBURGER: No.23:00
CH33ZBURGERoh23:00
bekksCH33ZBURGER: He wants to access his FTP from another PC from the same network.23:01
qinBlackWeb: Yup, not sure if ftp config have masking option, well should.23:01
administorwhich would be best linux distro for cybercom fid10 very old laptop?23:01
Wednesdayadministor maybe try Lubuntu23:01
administorThank you wednesday23:02
naturalhow do i move the apps bar on the right to the bottom of the screen?23:02
xenlandis there a tutorial on installing boost 1.54.0 from source onto ubuntu 13+23:03
naturalsorry, i mean the bar on the left23:03
xenlandnatrual:none that i know of23:03
xenlandno method i mean.23:04
naturaldarnit23:04
kostkonxenland, there is one but it's a hack23:04
aquariusBaffled. This machine (Ubuntu 12.04, upgraded just now from 9.10 via 10.04) has no window decorations. I have tried disabling and then re-enabling them in ccsm and it did not help.23:04
naturaldanget23:04
naturalowell i'll just get used to the bar being on the left i guess23:04
naturalhow about the bar on the top? can i move that to the bottom?23:04
aquariusI believe my daughter may have applied a different window theme in 9.10; I have tried using myunity to switch window themes, but nothing has brought back the window decorations :(23:04
Wednesdaynatural, you can set the menu to hide and just install something like Docky or Cario-dock23:04
jribaquarius: create a fresh new user and see if the issue persists23:05
Wednesdaynatural, maybe you can try right clicking and search for properties/settings or something23:05
kostkonnatural, neither. both are locked in their positions23:05
administorThis is another cool part of linux been able to chat with other members of community.23:05
naturalthanks Wednesday23:05
naturalbut i dont want to hack it23:05
naturaldanget kostkon thanks anyway23:05
qinaquarius: metacity --replace; and 9.10 is very dead.23:05
aquariusjrib, good thought. (Does 12.04 not hav the Guest Session?)23:05
naturalcan I make the top bar translucent like the left bar?23:05
aquariusqin, I know, that's why I've upgraded it :)23:06
jribaquarius: don't use the guest session; just create an account23:06
administorPlus linux loads very fast and uses hardware more effective than other operating systems thumbs up.23:07
fanda5hola23:07
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Timvdenatural: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-ubuntu-unity-bottom-launcher.html23:08
TimvdeIt looks like the ppa is still being updated, so I guess it'll work :)23:09
kostkonnatural, yeah. not recommended to do the hack and add the ppa etc. just try to get used to it :P23:09
TimvdeI don't use it myself, though, so haven't tested it23:09
administorIs there a game like test drive for linux?23:09
aquariusjrib, the issue *does* occur with a new account: I created the account in Users and Groups, and then switched to it with the Me Menu, and the new user's session has no window borders either. Interestingly, metacity --replace as qin suggested gives me windows with decorations correctly as expected, but... obviously that's not running unity then!23:10
xenlandkostkon: I've decided I'll look over the hacky way of installing boost 1.54.023:10
kostkonxenland, hack :/23:11
xenlandlol23:11
xenlandI see23:11
xenlandI've beeing doing non-system wide installs.23:11
xenlandand it works sorta.23:11
xenlandever scince i tried system wide, it breaks all boost compilings... :(23:11
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kostkon!info libboost-dev raring23:13
ubottulibboost-dev (source: boost-defaults): Boost C++ Libraries development files (default version). In component main, is optional. Version 1.49.0.1 (raring), package size 2 kB, installed size 26 kB23:13
kostkon!info libboost-dev saucy23:13
ubottulibboost-dev (source: boost-defaults): Boost C++ Libraries development files (default version). In component main, is optional. Version 1.53.0.0ubuntu2 (saucy), package size 3 kB, installed size 26 kB23:13
xenlandI need 1.54 :( for a paid project I am working on .23:14
wylde_xenland: get the source for 1.54 and compile? Or perhaps there's a third party ppa.23:16
kostkonxenland, you are following this right? http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_54_0/more/getting_started/unix-variants.html#easy-build-and-install23:16
xenlandno ppa available, building from source i've tried but don't know how to install system wide to allow for natrual development.23:16
xenlandkostkon? does that show how to install systemwide part.23:17
xenlandit works installing it from source its just apain doing exports on all the cmake things all the time23:17
kostkonxenland, it says: ./bootstrap.sh --prefix=path/to/installation/prefix to install somewhere else.23:17
xenlandand other things of that nature.23:17
xenlandoh okay23:18
xenlandthat should work than23:18
xenlandthanks :)23:18
kostkonxenland, maybe tell it to put the files in /usr/lib or wherever the boost files are supposed to be in23:18
kostkonxenland, check the file list of the libboost package in the repos: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/i386/libboost1.49-dev/filelist23:22
nick__is anyone there23:22
nick__is anyone there23:22
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FloodBot1nick__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:23
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alastor__i've upgraded to ubuntu 13.10 vi do-release-upgrade... i can see that my packages are being downloaded from "saucy" repositories.... but when I open System Settings > Details, I still see 13.04 as my ubuntu version... is there something wrong or is this the way it's like when we upgrade to a dev- version?23:42
wilee-nileealastor__, No are you sure you upgraded to 13.10, you mentioned running the -d command earlier what happened then di d you stop the download, gthe run a update/upgrade?23:43
wilee-nileethen*23:44
wilee-nileealastor__, A upgrade to 13.10 would have included a reboot after downloading and installing this sound familiar?23:45
alastor__wilee-nilee: i've run do-release-upgrade -d a few days ago but killed it just after starting... then, today i've run apt-get update upgrade and downloaded the whole thing... i think it wasn't as smoothless as it should be because I had all sorts of problems right now and every now and then i see "ubuntu has experienced an internal error"23:46
anshin`wmctrl -r :ACTIVE: -e 0,0,0,-1,-1` doesn't work as expected. http://i.wonoes.com/2xv6hvmmy.png has anyone else experienced this?23:46
wilee-nileealastor__, Downloaded it and ran the install and rebooted?23:46
anshinnote the space between the launcher and the terminal window23:47
alastor__yes yes wilee-nilee23:47
alastor__rebooted multiple times23:47
alastor__every now and then i see some errors and the ubuntu tells me that i have obsolete versions of some packages.. then i install these packages individually23:47
scribawf_nick23:47
wilee-nileealastor__, Run this command and pastebin the results. grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}23:47
kostkonalan`, what does:  lsb_release -a say23:48
kostkonoops23:48
kostkonalastor__, *23:48
alastor__wilee-nilee: http://pastie.org/832654223:49
alastor__kostkon: http://pastie.org/832654623:49
kostkonalastor__, you need to update some of your ppa and 3rd party repo lines in your list23:50
OerHekssaucy & raring & precise ppa's23:50
OerHekswow23:50
kostkonalastor__, saucy. as you would expect23:51
alastor__when we are on a version but have ppas for earlier versions, do these ppas get ignored by ubuntu?23:51
Guest21393hi guys ive booted of an usb trying to partition the hdd but my hdd keeps mounting how do i stop this23:52
rypervencheWow....just wow.23:52
kostkonalastor__, actually it updates them automatically and then disables them before starting the upgrade process23:52
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wilee-nileealastor__, yes on the updating the sources.list.d make sure the ppa has a version for saucy don't just change it.23:53
kostkonalastor__, it didnt happen in your case i suppose23:53
wilee-nileeway to many ppa's lol23:53
alastor__wilee-nilee: it's better if I just ppa-purge the whole thing, isn't it?23:54
alastor__just to get a clean start23:54
OerHekstry /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list so you only get currently enabled software sources.23:54
Antican anyone help23:55
OerHeks!ask | Anti23:56
ubottuAnti: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:56
Antistupid bot if you didnt see i asked the question23:57
Antihi guys ive booted of an usb trying to partition the hdd but my hdd keeps mounting how do i stop this23:57
OerHeksAnti, you only need to unmount it once, and it should stay unmounted.23:59
Antiit dont it remounts it self23:59
wilee-nileealastor__, I would not just purge all of them, you look to have games...etc, I would just not be running upgrades without realizing it's not a release, and making sure the ppa's are covered on the release....etc. Personally I never upgrade23:59

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