[00:00] <UserError> Don't do it ;)
[00:00] <Benkinooby> UserError: the problem is, that those desktop manger alre also responsible for permission managerment (indeiectly) and with console kit this is a total mess
[00:00] <UserError> trying to get the smallest possible RQT
[00:00] <Benkinooby> UserError: only lightdm and up can manage consolekit properly
[00:00] <Benkinooby> UserError: RQT?
[00:01] <UserError> razor
[00:01] <UserError> setup
[00:01] <Benkinooby> what's razor?
[00:01] <Benkinooby> a phone?
[00:01] <UserError> DE
[00:01] <UserError> shell, gui, whatever
[00:01] <UserError> based on Qt
[00:01] <UserError> framework
[00:02] <crocket> ubuntu app store is loaded with lots of commercial projects.
[00:02] <crocket> I think it's a right move.
[00:02] <crocket> Some apps like photoshop can't be done well with opensource projects.
[00:02] <crocket> They're just too big and require funding for the time being.
[00:02] <Obi1> brb later on thx for the help
[00:02] <UserError> Yeh, image editors on linux are gimped
[00:03] <quidnunc> How do I install ia32-libs-multiarch? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6103660/
[00:03] <crocket> UserError, However, GIMP fits most purposes.
[00:03] <UserError> Adobe Photoshop CS2 is freeware though and freedesktop puts the icons in so
[00:03] <crocket> Non-artists are fine with GIMPed.
[00:03] <crocket> UserError, Is Adobe Photoshop CS2 available on linux?
[00:03] <UserError> Wine
[00:04] <UserError> which auto inserts icons to apps with freedesktop spec
[00:04] <UserError> just like native
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> !wine | c
[00:04] <crocket> man
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> !wine | crocket
[00:04] <UserError> and it runs faster than Gimp
[00:04] <UserError> so
[00:04] <UserError> no reason to use it
[00:04] <crocket> 24/7 support from ubuntu is crazy. Softwares should be able to answer to humans 24/7.
[00:04] <crocket> Humans can't support others in servility 24/7.
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> i perfer gimp. ;)
[00:05] <UserError> crocket, history does not agree with you
[00:05] <crocket> I whine about wine.
[00:05] <Benkinooby> UserError: as i see it, razor is on top of a winodw manager, right?
[00:05] <crocket> Is steam for linux available?
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> crocket:  theres native steam now yes
[00:05] <UserError> rqt is normally used with
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> been out for some months
[00:05] <UserError> openbox
[00:06] <Benkinooby> UserError: use fluxbox - then you dont need razor and openfbox
[00:06] <Benkinooby> UserError: fluxbox = openbox  + all that openbox misses ;)
[00:07] <crocket> Games can't be done well with opensource projects, either.
[00:07] <crocket> We need commercial games on linux.
[00:07] <UserError> ok but flux isn't quite in the same league
[00:07] <Benkinooby> crocket: see 0ad?
[00:07] <Benkinooby> UserError: as what?
[00:08] <crocket> Opensource projects thrive in infrastructral softwares.
[00:08] <UserError> RQT
[00:08] <UserError> normally you'd use flux with razor
[00:08] <UserError> not by itself
[00:08] <crocket> Opensource projects are good at producing organic systems of small software interwoven together.
[00:09] <UserError> Without KDE, Apple would still be using IE
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> !ot | crocket
[00:09] <Benkinooby> UserError: well, RQT is merging to lxde-qt anyway
[00:09] <crocket> ok
[00:09] <UserError> ^^^ show me where
[00:09] <UserError> all official wording is they are running in parallel
[00:09] <crocket> wilee-nilee, Do you know where I can get GNOME ubuntu?
[00:09] <UserError> because of differing design goals
[00:09] <Benkinooby> UserError: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razor-qt
[00:10] <Benkinooby> The memory consumption of Razor-qt is slightly above the one of LXDE using 114Mb in a reviewer's test while LXDE used 108Mb in a user test.
[00:10] <crocket> unity ubuntu lacks some stuff I want. It doesn't have virtual workspaces.
[00:10] <UserError> yes, and it is also more hardware accelerated and has a better plugin system currently
[00:11] <UserError> LXDE-Qt uses more than LXDE for instance
[00:11] <UserError> and Razor is more modular
[00:11] <Benkinooby> UserError: i jsut want to say that if you want a minimal system, the *box window managers are smaller
[00:11] <UserError> if you only cared about stats, we'd all be using enlightenment
[00:12] <crocket> Oh unity has workspaces.
[00:12] <UserError> Benkinooby http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE-Qt
[00:13] <Benkinooby> UserError: uhm, that reminds me to have a look at enlightenment again :D
[00:15] <Benkinooby> UserError: oh ok - now i'm a bit more knowledgable than before :)
[00:15] <UserError> LXDE is only partnering with razorqt for stand-alone bits until certain porting is done or they decide they don't want to for a select few components
[00:16] <UserError> which is why i need to find the slimmest rqt setup
[00:16] <UserError> in ubuntu
[00:16] <UserError> from minimal
[00:16] <Benkinooby> UserError: use lightdm
[00:16] <UserError> Speaking of, is there a way under ubuntu style packaging to install only the X11 parts needed? In gentoo I could pick and choose
[00:17] <UserError> Do you know if lightdm defaults are functional with --no-install-recommends
[00:17] <Benkinooby> UserError: you can install X and disable "install recommended" for that call
[00:17] <UserError> yeh but it still installs
[00:17] <UserError> so much other crap
[00:17] <UserError> extra video drivers etc
[00:17] <Benkinooby> UserError: well, if it depends on them...
[00:18] <crocket> Is there a GNOME variant of ubuntu?
[00:18] <UserError> there is no reason my intel card needs ati or SiS or VIA
[00:18] <UserError> crocket, gnome-fallback or something ?
[00:18] <Benkinooby> UserError: why not use gentoo or arch linux?
[00:18] <UserError> simple, ppas
[00:18] <UserError> for specific projects
[00:19] <UserError> some of which are not open
[00:19] <UserError> also, binary compatibility across differing platforms
[00:19] <Benkinooby> ok
[00:21] <crocket> UserError, I want GNOME as the first class citizen instead of unity.
[00:22] <natural> hey ubuntu, quick question, will ubuntu 13.04 64 bit work on my nettop d510 atom cpu 1.66 ghz dual core, with 2 gb ram ddr2 and an nvidia ion 310m gpu ?
[00:23] <natural> 32 bit or 64 bit? is 64 going to be any better for the experience? or will it cause issues? or is it 32 bit better for the machine i have?
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> natural, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[00:25] <Benkinooby>  crocket use google and find http://ubuntugnome.org/
[00:27] <OerHeks> !nounity
[00:29] <Benkinooby> crocket: or this ^
[00:30] <crocket> OerHeks, Benkinooby : I installed gnome-shell and gnome-shell-extensions on linuxmint 15, and gnome shell wasn't really integrated into the system.
[00:30] <natural> thanks wilee-nilee  my pc is not on the list
[00:30] <crocket> Lots of system settings in GNOME shell appeared weird.
[00:30] <OerHeks> crocket, that would be a mint issue, not our problem.
[00:30] <crocket> For example,I couldn't choose a custom background.
[00:30] <Benkinooby> crocket: use a distro that is gnome based
[00:30] <Benkinooby> if gnome is that important to you
[00:31] <crocket> Benkinooby, I'm afraid the same could happen with ubuntu if I installed gnome shell.
[00:31] <Benkinooby> crocket: well... just one way to find out
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> natural, This channel is not really the place for that, run it and decide for yourself, any answers here are opinions.
[00:31] <Benkinooby> crocket: my recommendation, if you are not a linux novice: use ubuntu minimal install, and add things you want
[00:32] <Benkinooby> crocket: by doning so you will have gnome3 and ubuntu under the hood
[00:32] <natural> thanks wilee-nilee this is the ubuntu suport channel right? i just want to find the minimum specs, i cant find them yet
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> natural, Make a usb or burn a disc and see if it runs, I would be surprised if it did not.
[00:32] <Benkinooby> crocket: but if you are not used to linux don't use minimal install
[00:32] <crocket> Benkinooby, Hmm..... it's hard to get DEs right by hand.
[00:33] <crocket> There is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/13.04/release/
[00:33] <Benkinooby> crocket: yep - is always a question how much you want it ;)
[00:33] <Benkinooby> crocket: or if you find the right distro - in this case an ubuntu spin-off
[00:34] <crocket> When will 13.10 be released?
[00:34] <reisio> crocket: shortly after it's done
[00:34] <reisio> probably in the 10-th month of the year
[00:34] <reisio> hence .10
[00:34] <crocket> reisio, Is it easy to upgrade to that from 13.04?
[00:35] <reisio> crocket: it should be
[00:35] <crocket> Upgrades have been problematic.
[00:35] <Benkinooby> crocket: yes
[00:35] <reisio> crocket: yes they have
[00:35] <reisio> even problematic upgrades can be rectified, however
[00:35] <reisio> without reinstalling
[00:35] <crocket> I nowadays prefer to back up, install a new OS, and restore.
[00:36] <Benkinooby> crocket: if you move from 13.04 to 13.10 it should be way less truoblesome than e.g. 12.10->13.10
[00:36] <crocket> Is 13.10 LTS?
[00:37] <crocket> no
[00:37] <crocket> 14.04 might be the next LTS.
[00:38] <UserError> Does anyone know if someone made a list of minimal X11 + Intel driver package list sans meta?
[00:39] <reisio> that's what meta packages are...
[00:40] <crocket> reisio, I upgraded slackware 13 to 14, and it led to some bugs months after the upgrade.
[00:40] <fibber> what is the difference between chown and chmod?
[00:40] <crocket> It was hard to catch.
[00:41] <crocket> It felt like man vs wild.
[00:41] <reisio> crocket: probably just took you months to notice them :)
[00:42] <reisio> fibber: man chown: change file owner; man chmod: change file mode
[00:43] <crocket> reisio, it's difficult not to screw up package configurations during upgrades.
[00:43] <UserError> reisio
[00:43] <UserError> without using the metas
[00:43] <crocket> Some packages leave some trashes after removal.
[00:43] <UserError> individual packages
[00:43] <UserError> an "actually" minimal x11 install
[00:43] <UserError> for only a specific GPU that will never change
[00:43] <reisio> crocket: on Slackware? I'm sure it's more involved
[00:43] <crocket> Those trashes lead to bugs
[00:43] <crocket> reisio, yes
[00:44] <reisio> haven't used it as an installation, personally
[00:44] <crocket> reisio, on slackware
[00:44] <crocket> Those byproducts can't be removed completely.
[00:44] <reisio> sure they can
[00:44] <reisio> but Slackware is certainly more nuts and bolts
[00:44] <reisio> on purpose
[00:44]  * LinuxGold started out with Slackware.
[00:44] <crocket> reisio, there are hundreds of thousands of softwares that leave trashes.
[00:45] <LinuxGold> forced me to learn more about linux itself
[00:45] <crocket> automatic removal aren't designed to remove them.
[00:45] <crocket> Old KDE configs interfere with new KDE.
[00:45] <UserError> crocket, i wish bleachbit was better about that
[00:46] <UserError> there is so much room to improve bleachbit
[00:46] <reisio> crocket: doesn't mean you can't remove them, just that it's more involved :)
[00:46] <crocket> reisio, Any sane man wouldn't do it completely as men can't clean the street completely.
[00:46] <Benkinooby> fibber: chmod changes file permissions, and chown changes file ownership
[00:46] <reisio> ...
[00:47] <drcasper> guys can i get your assistance? i rented out a VSP that had ubuntu 12.10 installed, and I'm trying to get the desktop to show after installing tightvnc
[00:47] <drcasper> i can login and see the desktop, but i dont see any menus or bars or anything
[00:47] <michaelwang32> whats a VSP
[00:47] <michaelwang32> dont you mean VPS?
[00:47] <crocket> reisio, However, I guess I go with several upgrades.
[00:47] <drcasper> i have tried modifying the xstart file with no luck.. different variations
[00:48] <drcasper> yea sorry for the typo
[00:48] <crocket> I think I can run several upgrades without causing much trouble.
[00:48] <michaelwang32> what provider of vps did you get?
[00:48] <michaelwang32> what is the compony name
[00:49] <drcasper> premiumvm
[00:49] <michaelwang32> ok
[00:49] <drcasper> does that matter? (just curious)
[00:49] <michaelwang32> not really
[00:49] <michaelwang32> i was asking so i could look at a vps
[00:49] <drcasper> i have ssh access
[00:49] <crocket> !nounity
[00:49] <michaelwang32> ok
[00:49] <michaelwang32> im not really good at linux
[00:50] <crocket> Do I need to install gnome-shell and gnome-tweak-tool to use gnome shell on ubuntu 13.04?
[00:50] <michaelwang32> why did you rent a linux vps
[00:50] <drcasper> i see.. so what's the easiest way to get this working ubottu .. upgrade ubuntu ?
[00:50] <reisio> crocket: basically
[00:50] <Fekall> I got a question..I had a hard lock on my Ubunutu server 13. which I had to do a manual shutdown on...I rebooted and only got to the point of begin: running /scripts/init-bottom...done...then it stalls
[00:50] <Fekall> any suggestions..help?
[00:50] <drcasper> michaelwang32: cheap.. 4bucks a month :D
[00:51] <michaelwang32> ok
[00:51] <michaelwang32> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gui-on-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-server.html
[00:51] <michaelwang32> read this
[00:51] <FloodBot1> michaelwang32: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:51] <Polycarb> ey guys, i need some help i think... or maybe i dont, i will ask first then apologize afterwards if im the fool here... Anyone know if the Asus AC66 PCI-E NIC works in ubuntu? if drivers are needed then it is rather okay... =)
[00:51] <crocket> reisio, Why use gnome-tweak-tool instead of the official system settings?
[00:51] <Fekall> ok..i will check that out ...thanks michaelwang32
[00:51] <Ari-Yang> !drivers | Polycarb
[00:51] <reisio> crocket: you needn't
[00:51] <Ari-Yang> hmmm
[00:52] <Ari-Yang> !driver
[00:52] <Polycarb> !driver
[00:52] <reisio> crocket: but gnome-shell is required for using... GNOME's ordinary shell
[00:52] <binroot> Hey, what happens when you press 'A' in linux top?
[00:52] <Ari-Yang> !amd
[00:52] <Ari-Yang> !ati
[00:52] <intirb_> Hey guys.  Can someone help me understand these instructions for debugging ubuntu?
[00:52] <drcasper> ubottu: i apoligize for not troughly understanding what you said before i asked a second question.. i am now installing "ubuntu-gnome-desktop"
[00:52] <UserError> Is there a minimal oriented channel
[00:53] <UserError> for ubuntu
[00:53] <UserError> !bot
[00:53] <tking__> please how do i kill my real nick which is registered ... tking
[00:53] <drcasper> !classic
[00:53] <michaelwang32> idk
[00:53] <UserError> tking, ddos yourself
[00:53] <tking__> UerError i want to login with my nick tking but it keeps giving me tking__
[00:54] <binroot> with 'top', what happens when you press 'A'?
[00:54] <NMachado> UserError, lulz
[00:59] <intirb_> Could someone here help me with me with xtrace please?
[01:01] <crocket> Does ubuntu installer recognize LVM volumes?
[01:01] <michaelwang32> is ext4 good
[01:01] <michaelwang32> ?
[01:05] <M3tabaron> notes in Ubuntu?? I dont want to use Everpad. No sych for Tomboy in Ubuntu One anymore. Using footnote right now, but cant see how to sync the files. so... what is the solution? why is it that Ubuntu stopped supporting the Tomboy sync??
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> because there wasent a lot of people usng the feature
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> I think i saw guides somewhere on setting up dropbox or some other way to synhc tomboy notes
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> i think tomboy used mono also so a lot of people refuxed to use it for that reason also. (i maybe wrong)
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> !info gnote
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/96965/tomboy-alternatives
[01:08] <RBornert> is there a channel for the ubuntu smart phone?
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> !touch
[01:08] <M3tabaron> Dr_Willis: aha.. thanks :) good link.
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> i really wish they would beef up ubuntu one to have more notes/calander/other features that im using google for right now. ;) it would be handy
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> It could do so much more
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> you could also just save your notes or whatever onto your dropbox directory  that way all the pcs using dropbox couldget to them . same for ubuntu one.
[01:10] <M3tabaron> Dr_Willis: you are right about the mono thing. But seems a bit silly they take It so serious. What Im trying to do is to get around any service under the patriot act, which i getting harder these days. and I agree with you. It is silly that Ubuntu ignore to provide the most basic apps.
[01:11] <M3tabaron> Dr_Willis: Footnote is nice by the way. But I didnt figure out what files to sync to Ubunto One to get it to the cloud.
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> i tend to just use tiddlywiki - but its a bit weird compared to some note taking apps
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> got wunderlist on the phone, and that google keep service also
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> Nice thing about wunderlist. i go tit on the wifes phone also. so she can add things to the grocery list and not need to msg me to get moar milk and eggs
[01:15] <M3tabaron> Dr_Willis: I agree.. Wunderlist is nice. I use Nitro now, synced with U1, and It works like a dream. Havent found a solution for calendar yet. I will check out tiddlywiki as well. What friendly name :D
[01:16] <RBornert> no
[01:16] <M3tabaron> Dr_Willis: you are right..Wunderlist is so Macified that any female can use It
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> all we need it for is groceries ;) and my weekend todo list
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> tiddlywiki is very very differnt from the other list/note things.
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> because its a wiki  ;)
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> !info zim
[01:22] <M3tabaron> Dr_Willis: wow... you actually bring a todo list to the bar?
[01:22] <subhajitroy> ki
[01:24] <jrib> 1) drink beer 2) drink more beer
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> http://alternativeto.net/software/tomboy/  seems to have some differnt ones also
[01:24] <LinuxGold> beer -- hmm...
[01:25] <M3tabaron> 17) Throw up in taxi
[01:26] <LinuxGold>  smirnoff ice triple black
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> 18) wonder whos clothes you are wearing.
[01:26] <LinuxGold> freshly unpopped.
[01:26] <LinuxGold> ahh...
[01:27] <M3tabaron> that is the global crisis talking. Nerds get laid, but cant go for a beer!
[01:28] <UserError> M3, i'm doing both right now
[01:28] <M3tabaron> UserError: okay.. I admit I made that one up. Im reading note app reviews. Guess that makes you the lucky one
[01:28] <UserError> The deal was, if she couldn't learn javascript she couldn't bitch about my multitasking
[01:29] <UserError> She couldn't learn javascript
[01:29] <IdleOne> !ot
[01:29] <IdleOne> !language
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> wasent there some ubuntu 'touch' note app in the works? I seem to recall a list of simple apps for touch (or was i thinking gnome-shell)
[01:31] <M3tabaron> Dr_Willis: chances are some of the good stuff will surface when Ubuntu Mobile matures
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Collection
[01:32] <NedsFlam> Hey all. I am working on converting the sum-of-products into NAND gates. f(x1, x2, x3) = SUM(m)(1,2,7). I have simplified the output to: notx1*x3+x2x3. However, I think the AND gate output should be x1*x2. Is there a way I can simplify my expression at its current stage. Or do I need to start over?
[01:32] <NedsFlam> shit wrong channel guys
[01:32] <NedsFlam> sorry
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> and.. what channel do you think you are asking this in? ;)
[01:33] <NedsFlam> hahaha
[01:33] <NedsFlam> I thought I was in math
[01:33] <NedsFlam> sorry
[01:33] <FloodBot1> NedsFlam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:33] <NedsFlam> It wouldn't hurt to get an answer from someone in here either :p
[01:34] <bwayne> goodness. don't look at the sshd entries in auth.log unless you want to have a heart attack.
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> bwayne:  logwatch can clean them up a bit. ;)
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> and fail2ban is handy to weed out snoopers
[01:35] <NMachado> w
[01:36] <bwayne> Dr_Willis: just installed fail2ban. not familiar with logwatch. thinking of installing denyhost and finding a way to deny anything not in my state
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> !info logwatch
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> logwatch just vives you a nice log output.
[01:37] <bwayne> hmmm ... so it pretties up auth.log et al ?
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure if you can combine fail2ban and denyhost - or if you just shouldent. ;)
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> allthe logs it can put in a nice report
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> apt, sshd. logins, sudo stuff.
[01:37] <bwayne> Dr_Willis: from what I read, they play nice together.
[01:38] <bwayne> Dr_Willis: sweet. installed logwatch.
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> i recall somthing about setting up Port-Knocking if you wanted to get extreme :)
[01:39] <bwayne> just enough to keep them off my Ubuntu.
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> using ssh keys instead of passwords is handy also. but i always stumble upon some app that cand handle keys
[01:39] <bwayne> Yeah. I'm the only AllowedUser and only key based auth.
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> so you are just seeing people banging on a door that dosent have a knob. ;)
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> so you could set up fail2ban to ban them after 1 bad attempt and do it for a very long time
[01:41] <bwayne> What I'd like to do is write a script that detects the repeated login attempts, and then launches a low orbit ion cannon at the attacking IP. but IP's get spoofed.
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> i recall seeing lots of attempts on my DigitalOcean VPS also.
[01:57] <M3tabaron> Dr_Willis: thanks for the links. I checked out a few apps, and Zim came out as the winner :) Im running pantheon on 13.04, and even though It is great eyecandy, the Elementary apps are far from ready.
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> looked at the Elemtary OS stuff.. and really. I wasent too impressed.  The whole 'lets make eery thing minimal' trend seems more about marketing/fad then useability ;(
[02:05] <M3tabaron> Dr_Willis: hmm..to some extend. Unity is like a pepperspray in the face, but you are right, when the guys at elementary implements the new app control, the risk of ending up being just as lame as the apple hipsters. But, since I just had to ask around to find a satisfying note taking app, and I havent even solved the problem finding a good calendar, I think Its reasonable to say that there is a need for simplicity to some degree. Many apps in
[02:05] <M3tabaron> the software center are .. well.. crap, and that scares away many first time users. Personally I think the next gnome will be awesome for the geeks. I dont see where Unity fits in. Unity is trying to Mac, and even at that It fails.
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> i dont find unity tryont to be like Mac.. Its more like trying to be  android-ish in wahs
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> ways
[02:06] <bazhang> M3tabaron, so file a wishlist bug, or choose something else
[02:06] <OerHeks> M3tabaron, install synaptic, for better package view/control
[02:06] <bazhang> !nounity | M3tabaron
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> its still hard to beat synaptic.
[02:07] <OerHeks> no commercial ware too, softwarecentre is not capable of filtering that stuff
[02:08]  * LinuxGold sips some more
[02:09] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys can someone help me by any chance
[02:09] <Psil0Cybin> is there any easy way to set up nfs so i can share a folder
[02:09] <M3tabaron> OerHeks: I will try that solution. thanks :)
[02:09] <Psil0Cybin> to my media center?
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> yea - i rarely use software center - but when i do - i definatly dont want to see some $2 trivial-apps all over the place
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  what sort of media center? Most can do samba shares. NFS may be a bit harder
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> DLNA servers sharfeing media is also commonplace
[02:11] <crocket> sharfeing?
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> it does allow samba share
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> im using
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> Raspbmc
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> Xbmc
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> but for the Raspberry Pi
[02:11] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:11] <Psil0Cybin> I have never used Samba sharing, do i need to download something?
[02:11] <crocket> Does DLNA transcode media?
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> xbmc can handle UPNP/DLNA - thats one of the easyest ways to set up  a remote source for it
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> the Dlna SERVER can transcode - depending on the server
[02:12] <crocket> Dr_Willis, I heard DLNA can stream videos.
[02:12] <crocket> I want untempered binary stream.
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> crocket:  thats its main job. ;)
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> what sort of binary stream>
[02:12] <crocket> Dr_Willis, I want DLNA to stream video files as are.
[02:13] <crocket> I don't want transcoding which reduces A/V quality.
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: so how would i go about getting my portable hard drive hooked up to my acer aspire one (netbook) to show up on the Xbmc
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> the specific dlna server can do differnt things. depend son the server
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> I am used to windows
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> where you just right click and share
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> so im confused which to use
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  plug it in. add it as a source in the xbmc gui.
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> samba vs others
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot plug in the hard drive
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  samba is the easiest way
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> it has to be plugged into another computer
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> xbmc -> add source. browse to the share. give it a name and let it scan it
[02:14] <Psil0Cybin> my hard drive is on a laptop, my raspberry pi is the server
[02:14] <Psil0Cybin> but it wont let me share
[02:14] <Psil0Cybin> the folder
[02:14] <Psil0Cybin> ....
[02:14] <Psil0Cybin> so im guessing i need to do
[02:14] <Psil0Cybin> sudo apt-get install samba
[02:14] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:14] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> Raspberry Pi - running XBMC  can work as a DLNA server and serve to other xbmc machines on the network.
[02:14] <crocket> How does ubuntu mount its encrypted home?
[02:14] <jrib> crocket: ecryptfs
[02:14] <crocket>  /etc/profile /etc/profile.d and ~/.profile don't seem to do it.
[02:14] <jrib> !encrypt | crocket
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> I do Pi+xbmc to other pis and xbmc servers all the time.
[02:14] <crocket> jrib, It seems to use truecrypt
[02:15] <Psil0Cybin> okay Dr_Willis im confused, sorry...you lost me
[02:15] <Psil0Cybin> so do i use Samba?
[02:15] <Psil0Cybin> i dont think my ubuntu machine has samba
[02:15] <jrib> crocket: are you sure?  How did you set them up?  Anyway, the ecryptfs stuff should happen through pam
[02:15] <Psil0Cybin> so im guesing i need to get it correct?
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  you dont HAVE to use samba.   XBMC can access many types of sources for videos
[02:15] <crocket> jrib, I have .TrueCrypt under my home directory.
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> samba is one of the easiest ways however
[02:15] <Psil0Cybin> but it cannot find my hard drive
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> 'what' can not find the hard drive
[02:15] <Psil0Cybin> it lets me find sources but not my videos
[02:15] <Psil0Cybin> the xmbc
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> did you set up a 'share;' to share the hard drive?
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> xmbc cannot find any media
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> no
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> i am trying to do that
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> thats what i want to have done
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> so what is shareing the hard drive? what OS what pc?
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> Xubuntu
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> is the machine
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> and a hard drive is a portable usb hard drive
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> i want to share the usb hard drive
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> to the xbmc
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> and you are shareing them TO what exactly? a Raspberry Pi running XBMC?
[02:17] <bazhang> Psil0Cybin, commas, not enter key
[02:17] <guest__> Is there a way to give each of my workspaces their own wallpapers?
[02:17] <jrib> crocket: how did you setup your encrypted homes/
[02:17] <crocket> jrib, I checked "encrypt home" in ubuntu liveCD installer
[02:17] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: that is correct
[02:17] <crocket> I just installed 13.04
[02:18] <Psil0Cybin> i want my Rpi to see my hard drive connected to a laptop
[02:18] <Psil0Cybin> on the same network
[02:18] <jrib> crocket: what ubuntu version?
[02:18] <guest__> I am running Ubuntu 12.04 x64.
[02:18] <crocket> jrib, 13.04
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  want to know the easyiest way? Set up PLEX on the ubuntu box. and then use the raspberrypi-PLEX disrto on the pi. ;)
[02:18] <Psil0Cybin> oh boy
[02:18] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[02:18] <Psil0Cybin> ill just try samba
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  or if you want to go samba route.. right click on the mounted video drive. and see if you can 'share' it
[02:18] <Psil0Cybin> so i would sudo apt-get install samba
[02:19] <Psil0Cybin> if i dont have it correct
[02:19] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> go ahead and install samba. its not like its huge. ;)
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> right click->share - on ubuntu will automatically install samba (it will ask)
[02:19] <Psil0Cybin> i do not see
[02:19] <Psil0Cybin> right click share
[02:19] <Psil0Cybin> on my hard drive
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> perhaps xubuntu dont have it. I normally use ubuntu/unity
[02:19] <Psil0Cybin> Eject - Open terminal - Zoom in - Zoom out
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> so im going to go ahead and try and install samba
[02:20] <jrib> crocket: it's possible you've setup truecrypt but I'm fairly certain ubuntu uses ecryptfs for encrypted homes
[02:20] <crocket> hmm
[02:20] <crocket> jrib, I haven't formatted /home
[02:20] <jrib> crocket: you should have .ecryptfs probably in /home or /home/user
[02:21] <crocket> If I instructed ubuntu installer not to format /home, does it ignore home encryption?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> hmm. xubuntus file manager - dosent seem to have shareing as a feature.
[02:21] <jrib> crocket: well my guess would be that any new account would still be setup using ecryptfs but that's just what I would expect
[02:26] <Obi1> hello
[02:29] <jgk> Any1 frm India
[02:29] <jgk> Im a new user
[02:30] <bazhang> !in | jgk
[02:33] <Obi1> is there any blocker that could block serain websites exept No Script for Firefox
[02:33] <an3k> adblock plus
[02:33] <bazhang> !info dansguardian | Obi1
[02:34] <Obi1> let me look a it i run the IPtraf  Awesome tool i love it
[02:35] <Obi1> dans guardian was on ubuntu christian edition yes?
[02:36] <bazhang> could well have been Obi1
[02:36] <king1337-2> king1337-2, recommends iptraf to anyone
[02:37] <Obi1> it was native for Ubuntu CE last time i run it awesome job preventing going on XXX web sites
[02:37] <Obi1> install add block plus for firefox
[02:38] <Obi1> let give it a try
[02:38] <Obi1> brb
[02:39] <guesyt> anyone know a way in bash to rename files from like 1 to 10 but only odd numbers
[02:40] <Obi1> Adblocker plus is awesome improved my internet so Much WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i`m happy
[02:41] <Obi1> thank you guys
[02:41] <bazhang> guesyt, try #bash
[02:41] <an3k> Obi1: the best (ad)blocker around ;)
[02:44] <Obi1> awesome to have you guys around this make my life easy , i read news in 5 diferent languages and darn computer is fast but internet geting slower and slower , so now i can see whit Iptraf who is and ad blocker plus work fine too
[02:44] <bwayne> look into ghostery and disconnect extensions as well. more privacy oriented.
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis:
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> i installed samba
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> moo?
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> how do i configure it so the xbmc can pick up the folder?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> did you make a share?>
[02:45] <Obi1> Ghostery is mystery company whit double standarts says one page in internet
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: do you make a share by adding something with the link to the file in the samba.conf
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[02:45] <Obi1> Hi Willis
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  shares can be defined in /etc/samba/smb.conf     correct
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  thers also a feature that lets you have user defined shars. but those are not really needed
[02:46] <bwayne> they provide an excellent service. What they say they're blocking, they're blocking.
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  what filesystem is on the external usb hd?
[02:46] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: how do i find out
[02:46] <bwayne> ..."says one page on the internet " ... let's see what else I can find on one page on the internetz.
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  sudo blkid    or 'sudo fdisk -l'
[02:47] <Psil0Cybin> sdb1
[02:47] <Psil0Cybin> is the partition
[02:47] <Psil0Cybin> so sdb
[02:47] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[02:47] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:47] <Psil0Cybin> /dev/sdb?
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> what FILESYSTEM is the partion formated to - is the imporntant part
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> ntfs, vfatm ext3/4
[02:47] <Psil0Cybin> NTFS
[02:48] <Psil0Cybin> sorry
[02:48] <Obi1> http://www.evidon.com/consumers-privacy/ghostery
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> you will most likely need to make an ectry in /etc/fstab to mount it where  all users can read from it. the 'ntfs-config' tool should be able to automate that for you
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: do i need to download an application
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> so sudo apt-get intall ntfs-config
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> yes Psil0Cybin    its not installed by default
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> or you can make a fstab entry by hand.   - example line from my fstab..
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> UUID=19C853E9785E19AE/media/VideoShare3000ntfs-3gdefaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8,noauto00
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> silly spaces...
[02:50] <Obi1> http://dnsw.info/betrad.com the real ghoustery
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> UUID=19C853E9785E19AE     /media/VideoShare3000    ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8,noauto   0   0
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> you get your UUID from that sudo blkid command.
[02:50] <Obi1> :P i look them up
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> okay so hold on
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> i got ntfs-config
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> i enable write to the drive?
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> you really just need guests to have full read access. but you may want to allow read/write
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> if you truely want full access from the remote pcs
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> all i want is to play videos on the media centre.
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> im on a home lan - so i let all the users have full access
[02:52] <Dr_Willis>  you need READ access.. writeing is optional
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> its easy to change this later. The trick is you have to have  open enough permissions on the share. for  xbmc to access it.
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: when i select the sdb1 so /media/area51 and click support for external devices it also checks off internal devices
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> is that normal
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> i do not want to share my internal hard drive
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> only the one it shows bellow in the box
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> but just the defaults should work. You want it mounted from fstab - because it really should be mounted at boot time. Not afte the user logs in and sccess it
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> media/area51 which i called my hard drive
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> is your usb hd mounted right now?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> you can just make a fstab entry to mount your sdb1  by hand and not even use ntfs-config  but its a handy tool to have/know about
[02:55] <Psil0Cybin> yea its mounted right now
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> or you could just share all  of /media/ then every drive you plug in and access would be availiable over the network.
[02:55] <Psil0Cybin> but is it normal that ntfs-tool also selected to share internal sources
[02:55] <Psil0Cybin> but it onlky shows the folder of the hard drive
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> No idea - ntfs-config is a little weird at times
[02:56] <Psil0Cybin> i just want to make sure my home directory isnt being shared
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> you can setup a home share if you want. ;)   it will still need your users password.
[02:56] <dre_> hey guy
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> I share my home/videos ;)
[02:57] <dre_> i am trying to  make a one key run a script  ubuntu server
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis:
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> still no luck
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> the xbmc does not find any folders!!
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot figure out what is going on
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> all i want to do is share a simple folder....
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  you havent made a SHARE YET have you?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> you need to MOUNT the drive somewhere. then share that location
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> well i didnt know how to do it
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> well the drive is mounted
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> im looking @ the files now
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> ntfs-config or fstab will MOUNT it somewhere.
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> where does  'mount' say its mounted to?
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> mount point
[02:59] <SchrodingersScat> I prefer sshfs when I can use it.
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> media/area51
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> area51 (is my hd name)
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> so if the path is /media/area51      you need to make a samba SHARE that shares that path
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> that would be in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> Yes
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> i see a share
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> in samba/smb.conf
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> it says
[03:00] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:00] <dre_> any help
[03:01] <daftykins> NO HELP
[03:01] <daftykins> unless you ask.
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> there are dozens of example shares in that file.  You need to make an entry for your specicic location
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin: ` for example there is a ;[cdrom] share   You can use that one as a templlate
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> [Area51] path = /media/Area51 ; writeable = no ; browsable = yes ; guest = okay
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> = yes
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> so how did you make that share?
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> so i uncomment
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> writeable
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> and browsable?
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> you dont need it writeable. you do want it browseable i imagine
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> i made it with a GUI program called Samba offered in Ubuntu programs
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> and the path is correct?
[03:02] <dre_> i would like to map a key to run a script ubunut server
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> also be sure it has guest ok = ok
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> i changed it to browsable
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> saved it
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> and still i cannot find it
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> on the Pi
[03:02] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:03] <Psil0Cybin> it has
[03:03] <Psil0Cybin> guest ok = yes
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> you need to restart the samba service i belive. 'sudo service samba restart'
[03:03] <Psil0Cybin> says
[03:03] <dre_> i would like to map a key to run a script ubunut server
[03:03] <Psil0Cybin> samba unrecognized service
[03:03] <Psil0Cybin> :S
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> wtf
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> i would also give your USER a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a YOURUSERNAME'
[03:04] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> You did install the samba service?>
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> yes....
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> when i type sudo apt-get install samba
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> it says
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> 0 installed 0 updated samba is already the newest version
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> what the eff
[03:05] <Guest26420> Oops
[03:05] <icesword> !when
[03:06] <Guest26420> Apparently you already got it
[03:06] <Guest26420> !when
[03:08] <icesword> i remember it s been crowded here why s so few today
[03:08] <michaelwang32> can i update the linux kernal and grub on linux mint 15
[03:08] <Guest26420> Ain't me.  I took a bath last Saturday.
[03:08] <michaelwang32> ok
[03:09] <bazhang> !mintsupport | michaelwang32
[03:09] <chocolatemousse> Hmm, anyone say my name recently in here?
[03:09] <chocolatemousse> Must have been a really old alert.
[03:09] <daftykins> chocolatemousse: i hope not
[03:09] <daftykins> unless it was I LOVE CHOCOLATE MOUSSE
[03:09] <chocolatemousse> daftykins, ? I probably said something to someone
[03:10] <chocolatemousse> daftykins, but that was days ago
[03:10] <michaelwang32> can i update the linux kernal and grub on ubuntu 13.04
[03:10] <daftykins> XD
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: I seem to have found the folder
[03:10] <bazhang> michaelwang32, you're using MINT, dont ask for support here
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> after i specifically looked for the IP
[03:10] <chocolatemousse> daftykins, funny, but unlikely
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> like imputted it on the Pi
[03:10] <michaelwang32> ok
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> of the folder
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> but i cannot see the content
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> it found Area51
[03:10] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> but does not show me any other folders inside
[03:10] <chocolatemousse> Unless it was #ubuntu-mousse
[03:10] <OldTexas> testin'
[03:11] <OldTexas> OK, got my name this time :)
[03:11] <asadak> a little help here !!
[03:11] <asadak> can some help me
[03:11] <chocolatemousse> !ask | asadak
[03:11] <bazhang> asadak, ask a question first
[03:12] <icesword> bazhang you FUCKtard! how s sucking a 5 inch penis in your mouth? did you swallow? you fucking gay!
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis:
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> now i cannot even mount the drive
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> wtf is going on
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> it says
[03:12] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:12] <chocolatemousse> !language | icesword
[03:12] <asadak> i downloaded ubuntu mini remix and virtual box
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> failed to mount area 51 error mounting mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with mount only root cna mount /dev/sdb1 on media area 51
[03:13] <asadak> but i do not how to insatll ubuntu mini remix in virtual box
[03:14] <asadak> Help in how to insatll ubuntu mini remix in virtual box
[03:14] <chocolatemousse> asadak, ask in virtualbox, specifically under their other linux feature
[03:14] <chocolatemousse> asadak, unless there's an ubuntu specific problem, you're not gonna get any help in here for that problem likely
[03:15] <chocolatemousse> asadak, but I'd also recommend just selecting the "Ubuntu" option, it'll likely just work ;)
[03:15] <OldTexas> Welp. I bought this TP Link TL-WN725N  wireless USB thing thinkin' I'd replace my cable cause I'm movin' the PC.  System don;t see nothin'.  Any idys.
[03:16] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, try installing drivers yet?
[03:16] <asadak> i have setup the os and it stops at something like a terminal
[03:16] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, that's usually the problem with wifi on linux
[03:16] <chocolatemousse> asadak, are you sure that's not normal
[03:16] <chocolatemousse> asadak, 'mini' sounds barebones
[03:17] <chocolatemousse> asadak, it might not have a ui?
[03:17] <OldTexas> It's only got Win drivers.  Should I try those?
[03:17] <asadak> chocolatemousse : in the terminal like thing - it says Welcome to Ubuntu 13.04
[03:17] <chocolatemousse> asadak, then it worked
[03:17] <chocolatemousse> asadak, gonna have to consult the manual with regards to if any X is supported
[03:18] <asadak> chocolatemousse : so where is the installer
[03:18] <chocolatemousse> asadak, you don't have a problem, your 'Ubuntu' is installed/booted
[03:18] <chocolatemousse> asadak, the problem (unless you can show me otherwise) is that you don't understand what you're doing
[03:18] <chocolatemousse> asadak, sounds like to me that IS the installer
[03:18] <asadak> chocolatemousse : can you help me how to install a UI
[03:18] <chocolatemousse> asadak, don't install the mini version
[03:18] <chocolatemousse> asadak, just use the regular install
[03:18] <asadak> Why ?
[03:19] <chocolatemousse> asadak, because that has a ui, that's why
[03:19] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, yeah, try the ndiswrapper
[03:19] <OldTexas> alrighty
[03:19] <valeness> g nickserv identify a803bla
[03:19] <valeness> Well shit
[03:20] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, make sure you install the dkms kernel modules as well
[03:20] <valeness> Time to burn my computer
[03:20] <OldTexas> OK... headin out to figger out what all that means... brb
[03:20] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, I think Ubuntu doesn't come with them by default, and the ndiswrapper kernel modules are missing from the repos, which I think is a problem - haven't confirmed myself but I was helping someone in here the other day with it and it seemed like that was the case
[03:20] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, just a heads up
[03:20] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, a kernel modules is kinda like a driver
[03:21] <chocolatemousse> !info ndiswrapper
[03:21] <asadak> chocolatemousse any help in installing the UI that is user friendly
[03:21] <chocolatemousse> asadak, use ubuntu.org and download the iso?
[03:21] <chocolatemousse> or whatever the ubuntu.com site is
[03:21] <asadak> I have Ubuntu
[03:21] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: question
[03:21] <chocolatemousse> asadak, you said you have 'Mini' I don't know what that is
[03:21] <asadak> But i need to try out Ubuntu Mini Remix
[03:22] <chocolatemousse> asadak, *sigh* well you did
[03:22] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: the computer i am sharing the drive off cannot access the internet anymore do you think what ever i did could have messed with the drivers
[03:22] <chocolatemousse> asadak, and you didn't like it
[03:22] <bazhang> !mini > chocolatemousse
[03:22] <chocolatemousse> bazhang, asadak ok he needs to know that then
[03:22] <chocolatemousse> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[03:22] <chocolatemousse> asadak, read that
[03:23] <asadak> chocolatemousse : http://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/
[03:23] <bazhang> chocolatemousse, ndis is the very last step to suggest for fixing wireless issues
[03:23] <chocolatemousse> bazhang, ok
[03:23] <chocolatemousse> bazhang, assumed OldTexas had a bit more experience than I should have perhaps
[03:24] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, if you are here, bazhang is right you should first check for wifi drivers for your card, native to linux
[03:24] <OldTexas> I'm a scratchin' my head, but if you got me pinted in the right direction I'll get there.  :)
[03:25] <OldTexas> K...
[03:25] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, well ndiswrapper is a last resort we use to try and load windows wifi drivers inside linux
[03:25] <Omen_20> anyone know if bluetooth has been messed with in recent updates? My bluetooth has stopped connecting out of the blue.
[03:25] <OldTexas> Ah, reading about it now....
[03:25] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, if you don't know about kernel modules then you may well have not known there are linux drivers for your card (potentially)
[03:26] <chocolatemousse> asadak, read the link I sent you
[03:26] <asadak> So should i install the iso ?
[03:27] <OldTexas> I was lookin' earlier and it made some references to RealTek card drivers.... Just had oodles a stuff and I kinda got bogged down, but y'all got me going' again.   Lookin' now.
[03:27] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, ok. :)
[03:27] <dre_> how to make ubuntu server run a shell script with key press
[03:27] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, hang on gonna dig up the official wifi tutorial, the steps go like so: a) find your wifi card number b) find drivers c) install drivers d) test e) scratch your head and conclude they didn't install f) try ndiswrapper
[03:28] <bazhang> dre_, try in #ubuntu-server yet?
[03:28] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, I assumed you had already tried steps a through e sorry ;)
[03:28] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, you seemed smart :)
[03:28] <dre_> yes
[03:28] <dre_> the script work
[03:28] <OldTexas> LOL K
[03:29] <dre_> but i would like when i press a key it would run
[03:29] <chocolatemousse> !wifi | OldTexas
[03:30] <OldTexas> Well I was smart, then DOS replaced CP/m.  Then I got smart again, n' the NT kernal replaced the DOS kernal, now I'm dumb as a box a rocks agian.
[03:30] <chocolatemousse> asadak, yes, go ahead and install - if you can't figure out the mini installer, either wait for someone to guide you through it or read the manual
[03:30] <chocolatemousse> asadak: but basically there is no gui installer
[03:30] <chocolatemousse> asadak: not with mini installer
[03:31] <chocolatemousse> asadak: you could create one that had a gui installer, but then you wouldn't be asking this question in the first place ;)
[03:31] <OldTexas> Workin' through it now, thanks for the heads up!
[03:31] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, Np :)
[03:32] <TsarObomba> anyone have any experience with bacahe?
[03:32] <TsarObomba> bcache*
[03:34] <JollyGreen> hello
[03:34] <reisio> 'lo jolly
[03:35] <chocolatemousse> JollyGreen, ello
[03:36] <TsarObomba> im looking for a good guide to bache of someone who had done it on 13.04 after installing a newer kernel
[03:36] <TsarObomba> or someone who has
[03:36] <JollyGreen> New guy here to Ubuntu ( insert mocking here) any advice on applications that i could use to learn python or c++?
[03:36] <Ari-Yang> !python
[03:36] <Ari-Yang> !c++
[03:36] <chocolatemousse> JollyGreen, no mocking, try build-essential
[03:37] <TsarObomba> thagts not gonna helpo him learn much
[03:37] <TsarObomba> besides install compilers
[03:37] <chocolatemousse> JollyGreen, use g++, learn to use gedit/kate/vim/emacs/<insert favorite text editorhere>
[03:37] <TsarObomba> JollyGreen: grab an :oreilly": book
[03:37] <TsarObomba> some are available for free online
[03:37] <chocolatemousse> JollyGreen, and go find the C++/Python people ;)
[03:37] <OldTexas> chocolatemousse, take a lookie here.  http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/   Only problem is, all I learned so far is sudo get-app yada-yada
[03:37] <TsarObomba> Get a real IDE
[03:38] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, hmm
[03:38] <JollyGreen> (Thanks everyone for there feedback) 8)
[03:38] <TsarObomba> np
[03:38] <chocolatemousse> np
[03:38] <OldTexas> Tat's if since 12.04 they've added the driver in newer releases
[03:39] <chocolatemousse> JollyGreen, you should try both IDE and no IDE
[03:39] <chocolatemousse> JollyGreen, I've used both, I like no IDE
[03:39] <chocolatemousse> other people like IDE
[03:39] <TsarObomba> OldTexas: why nbot use the ubuntu kernel ppa
[03:39] <chocolatemousse> TsarObomba, he needs more basic info
[03:39] <chocolatemousse> TsarObomba, like knowing what card he has
[03:39] <OldTexas> <[03:40] <TsarObomba> They have the newer kernel for every version, even the ubuntu patched kernels for saucy, raring etc
[03:40] <TsarObomba> i dont know what his issue is
[03:40] <OldTexas> The chipset is RealTek, so thats good... one sec...
[03:40] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, did you already try the GUI options? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/SolvingWireless
[03:40] <TsarObomba> and im busy looking for info on bcache
[03:40] <JollyGreen> ninja ide?
[03:40] <chocolatemousse> TsarObomba, then be busy
[03:40] <TsarObomba> linux-firmware-nonfree
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys does anyone know how i can stream videos from my laptop (the videos are located on a portable hard drive) i want to stream them to my raspbmc but i cannotget samba working
[03:41] <TsarObomba> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[03:41] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, at the bottom of that page there are some technical tools to find your hardware version numbers
[03:41] <OldTexas> chocolatemousse,  started it, I think I took a wrong left turn though
[03:41] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, you need to know a very specific model number
[03:41] <TsarObomba> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-saucy/
[03:41] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, yeah sometimes those docs aren't the most straightforward
[03:41] <chocolatemousse> TsarObomba, not helping
[03:42] <TsarObomba> its probably in firmware-nonfree
[03:42] <D3xt0r> Psil0Cybin streaming a video is done by VLC streaming mode
[03:42] <TsarObomba> most of the realkteks are
[03:42] <TsarObomba> chocolatemousse: says who
[03:42] <TsarObomba> im not helping you
[03:42] <TsarObomba> shush
[03:42] <chocolatemousse> TsarObomba, says OldTexas, feel free to contradict me
[03:42] <TsarObomba> im giving resources to OldTexas
[03:42] <chocolatemousse> TsarObomba, *sigh* resources he doesn't understand how to use
[03:42] <TsarObomba> chockey: he hasnt said anything to me
[03:42] <TsarObomba> err
[03:42] <TsarObomba> chocolatemousse:
[03:43] <Ari-Yang> wth is going on here? who needs help with what?
[03:43] <TsarObomba> i will just mentally ignore your pointlesws banter from now on in order to catalyze
[03:43] <chocolatemousse> !language | TsarObomba
[03:43] <TsarObomba> Ari-Yang: apparently a realtek wireless, OldTexas
[03:43] <TsarObomba> chocolatemousse: language?
[03:43] <TsarObomba> haha
[03:43] <TsarObomba> what language
[03:43] <OldTexas> RTL8192cu http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#2772
[03:43] <TsarObomba> banter?
[03:43] <chocolatemousse> Ari-Yang, OldTexas is new to Ubuntu, needs help with his wifi usb stick
[03:43] <chocolatemousse> TsarObomba, ...
[03:43] <TsarObomba> ive used NO bad language, nice try kiddo
[03:44] <OldTexas> ReaklTek chipset. TP-Link makes the usb hickey
[03:44] <TsarObomba> And i use +gR, ubottu cannot msg me
[03:44] <Ari-Yang> TsarObomba, chocolatemousse, lets move on, no need to spam the place with pointless bickering ;/
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  it was mentioned earlier - use a DLNA/Upnp server is one way
[03:44] <chocolatemousse> Ari-Yang, agreed
[03:44] <TsarObomba> Ari-Yang: I agreed with that before he decided i said "bad words"....
[03:44] <TsarObomba> heh
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  xbmc can get to videos from a varity of sources.   if you put xbmc on the laptop and set it up  - IT can stream videos to other pcs on the network running xbmc
[03:45] <TsarObomba> So, who knows about bcache?
[03:45] <chocolatemousse> TsarObomba, its not about bad words, its also about attitude
[03:45] <Ari-Yang> *nod* afk.... Good luck to all who are having difficulties~
[03:45] <TsarObomba> pointless banter?
[03:45] <IdleOne> chocolatemousse: Please drop it for now.
[03:45] <TsarObomba> he said it was pointless
[03:45] <TsarObomba> jeez let it go
[03:46] <OldTexas> Downloadin' a file for that chipset for Linux from RealTek...  Lemme see what I go
[03:46] <OldTexas> Downloadin' a file for that chipset for Linux from RealTek...  Lemme see what I got
[03:46] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, k
[03:46] <TsarObomba> OldTexas: have you tried installing linux-firmware-nonfree
[03:46] <TsarObomba> its a package in the repo
[03:46] <TsarObomba> It may help, it has firmware for realtek chips
[03:46] <chocolatemousse> TsarObomba, OldTexas try explaining to him what a repo is
[03:46] <chocolatemousse> :)
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> OldTexas:  if you can get a wired connection, or a wireless connection using a differnt wifi dongle/usb plug - that can make things a lot easier
[03:46] <OldTexas> repository
[03:47] <TsarObomba> chocolatemousse: welcome to real ignore this time
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: take a look @ your pm
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> i have a question for you
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  there was no need to remove samba.
[03:47] <IdleOne> TsarObomba: announcing your ignores is not needed or helpful. Please don't do it again.
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  and look at your fstab entry - if its trying to mount the drive. it needs to be correct
[03:48] <TsarObomba> IdleOne: im trying to peoplefully get him to stop
[03:48] <TsarObomba> That is all
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: where is the fstab entry located
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  the 'noauto' option in fstab will make it skip that drive untill you manually mount it
[03:48] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, lemme know how it goes
[03:48] <OldTexas> Don't mean to make nobody upset guys..please.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  /etc/fstab
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:48] <TsarObomba> So, who knows about bcache? anyone?
[03:48] <OldTexas> Will do
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> !fstab | Psil0Cybin
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> let me take a look
[03:48] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, I'm fine :)
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  i belive it will ask/mtnion it cant be found and you can hit 's' to skip the drive at boot time
[03:49] <TsarObomba> OldTexas: try opening software center, or if you know how to use apt-get, oinstall "linux-firmware-nonfree"
[03:49] <TsarObomba> after than, reboot
[03:49] <TsarObomba> Chances are, your card will work
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: do i open /etc/fstab
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> with nano
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> and take a look?
[03:49] <OldTexas> worth a try
[03:49] <TsarObomba> OldTexas: definitely
[03:50] <TsarObomba> since i fixed an issue with a realtek wireless with that same package
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis:
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> under options
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> it aleady nosuid
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> or somthing
[03:51] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> do i change it to noauto ?
[03:52] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, if you're new, I'd strongly urge you stick to the guide as closely as possible, deviations are what get you in trouble
[03:52] <OldTexas> sudo apt-get oinstall "linux-firmware-nonfree"  <---  E: invalid operation oinstall  ... ah, just install
[03:52] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, yup
[03:53] <gRAVIty2> Error: The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly. Error details - They are in continuation 1) http://imagebin.org/270644 2) http://imagebin.org/270645 3) http://imagebin.org/270646
[03:53] <gRAVIty2> can you tell me what is happening? and what should I do about it.
[03:53] <OldTexas> chocolatemousse,  it installed, worth a reboot doncha reckon?
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  the option is 'noauto' as in 'dont auto mount at boot time'
[03:53] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, not necessary
[03:54] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, if you wanna run 'uname -r' for me if its 3 or greater no need
[03:54] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, can't hurt if you want to keep things simple though
[03:54] <chocolatemousse> :)
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin: example fstab line ----->    UUID=19C853E9785E19AE     /media/VideoShare3000    ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8,noauto   0   0
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: okay i figured it out i belive
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> it works
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: so now what can i try to be able to share my hard drive with my pi :(
[03:55] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, I'm only going to mention this as its relevant to any confusion you may be having - I cannot see what TsarObomba is saying, keep that in mind
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> sorry to keep hounding you :( but i need ur help
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  samba, or a unpn/dlna server
[03:56] <gRAVIty2> anybody has fundaes on compiz?
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> okay well i tried samba but it seems to have problems with my hard drive, and being able to access it
[03:56] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, if you like his support better, its probably better to just listen to one person at a time, I won't be offended :)
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> when i did try and stream a movie
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  if samba was not able to share the drive. it may be it needed differnt options in fstab. I cant get to my other file server to see how i mounted my NTFS drive for it so be shared by samba
[03:56] <OldTexas> K....  :)  That's like havin' two backseaty drivers that are deaf.  :)
[03:56] <chocolatemousse> Hehe yah
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> Okay
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  most likely the issues are with HOW the drive is mounted.  that fstab line may beed to be set to allow everyone full access
[03:57] <Psil0Cybin> oh
[03:57] <Psil0Cybin> sorry im new :P see im learning
[03:57] <Psil0Cybin> just hard work aha
[03:57] <TsarObomba> of course, im not saying anythiing, cause im busy researching my own issues with bache
[03:57] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, he is going to give you the more technical route though, so if you don't mind the terminal commands its probably ok advice
[03:57] <TsarObomba> OldTexas: good luck :)
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  if you  can see the vidoe files now.. and install xbmc on the laptop. THAT can share  the files to the other xbmc player on the network
[03:57] <gRAVIty2> chocolatemousse: I have a trouble with compiz. can you look ait it?
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> oh
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> i can instal xbmc?
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> on my computer
[03:58] <OldTexas> I need a SSID
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> and share it that way?
[03:58] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, ok, do you know what the name of your wireless network is?
[03:58] <OldTexas> Did, one sec
[03:59] <chocolatemousse> That'll be your SSID
[03:59] <chocolatemousse> usually you can find it on the bottom of the router
[03:59] <TsarObomba> awesome looks like tyhat fuxed his chip
[03:59] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, if you do have the wifi drivers installed now everything should just show up in the wifi dropdown
[03:59] <TsarObomba> that fixed*
[03:59] <OldTexas> I waddn;'t that smart hen I set it up...
[04:00] <chocolatemousse> OldTexas, not knowledgeable, but smart, and level headed :)
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:00] <chocolatemousse> lotuspsychje, morning
[04:00] <gRAVIty2> I have this compiz error: The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly. Can someone help?
[04:01] <OldTexas> Lemme do a reboot, won;t take but a sec...
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> chocolatemousse: tnx mate!
[04:02] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: you know what i cannot figure out
[04:02] <Psil0Cybin> after all my tinkering right now my wlan0 is not acting right
[04:02] <Psil0Cybin> that one laptop i was doing this stuff on cannot connect to the net, like it does
[04:02] <Psil0Cybin> but then it times out
[04:02] <gRAVIty2> lotuspsychje: do u have fundaes on compiz?
[04:02] <Psil0Cybin> then it does again and times out
[04:02] <Psil0Cybin> but my other netbook is connected perfectly fine
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  could be some weird wireless driver issue.
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> !info fundaes
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> gRAVIty2: never heard of iot, what does it do?
[04:03] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: samba woudnt have done it right
[04:03] <Psil0Cybin> because it was working before
[04:03] <Psil0Cybin> perfectly fine
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  xbmc can work as a dlna/upnp server.
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> samba is a service. it wouldent affect your networking
[04:03] <gRAVIty2> lol :) i have a problem with compiz
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> !details | gRAVIty2
[04:04] <chocolatemousse> !ask | gRAVIty2
[04:04] <gRAVIty2> Error: The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly. Error details - They are in continuation   1) http://imagebin.org/270644   2) http://imagebin.org/270645    3) http://imagebin.org/270646
[04:04] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: i dunno how to use dlna or upnp
[04:04] <chocolatemousse> gRAVIty2, so does it run for you at all?
[04:05] <Psil0Cybin> i might just go back to burning dvds lol never knew xbmc could be sooooooooooo hard
[04:05] <Psil0Cybin> just to share a hard drive
[04:05] <Psil0Cybin> lmaoooo
[04:05] <chocolatemousse> gRAVIty2, or is it just crashing randomly?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  install one of the many dlna/upnp servers. configure it.. run it. ;)
[04:05] <gRAVIty2> it does. It kind of restarts it self.
[04:05] <gRAVIty2> chocolatemouse: yes it is just crashing randomly
[04:05] <chocolatemousse> gRAVIty2, are you sending the bug reports?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  as i said. If you run xbmcv on the pc. IT can share to the other pcs
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  my Pi's share to each other that way
[04:05] <chocolatemousse> gRAVIty2, you can just 'ignore future problems'
[04:05] <gRAVIty2> chocolatemousse: I am sending reports
[04:05] <chocolatemousse> looks like as well
[04:05] <chocolatemousse> gRAVIty2, if you can live with the crashes
[04:06] <chocolatemousse> gRAVIty2, if not you can look at updating your drivers
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  Or install PLEX on the pc. and use the raspberry pi-plex disrto and it turns the pi into an instant video player from the plex server
[04:06] <chocolatemousse> gRAVIty2, what's your card?
[04:06] <gRAVIty2> how do i find the card details? It is a laptop x200 tablet. Can you tell me the command to find out the card?
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  for a simpler test case. you could make a samba shar of your videos direcvtory in your home and see if the pi can find it.
[04:06] <chocolatemousse> gRAVIty2, otherwise you'll likely have to wait for the devs to fix it
[04:07] <chocolatemousse> gRAVIty2, lspci
[04:07] <gRAVIty2> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[04:07] <gRAVIty2> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> gRAVIty2: maybe this can help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966002
[04:08] <chocolatemousse> gRAVIty2, you'll wanna check your Intel Graphics Card drivers - bad news, the seem to be a bit iffy (other people have had problems)
[04:08] <chocolatemousse> they*
[04:09] <chocolatemousse> gRAVIty2, anyways good luck, I gotta bow out, getting tired and allergies are really getting to me.
[04:09] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: i actually cannot figure out why my wifi doesnt work on my HP that i tried to install the samba on
[04:09] <gRAVIty2> thanks for your time.Good night
[04:09] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: it did just an hr ago
[04:09] <chocolatemousse> gRAVIty2, you're welcome :) Night
[04:09] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: it says its connected to network but gets no internet but my net is working fine
[04:09] <OldTexas> dang
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  see if ifconfig shows an ip# and see if you can ping  the router.  basic networking tests ;)
[04:11] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: Lmaooo it started working on its own, something is off tonight
[04:11] <Psil0Cybin> like first with the samba not a recognized service
[04:11] <Psil0Cybin> and now this
[04:12] <TsarObomba> k
[04:12] <TsarObomba> woops
[04:15] <morenooo25> alguien habla español por favoor
[04:15] <OldTexas> S. ero soy nuevo tambien :(
[04:16] <reisio> #ubuntu-es
[04:16] <OldTexas> S. pero soy nuevo tambien :(
[04:16] <morenooo25> yo tb
[04:16] <morenooo25> no se donde toy metido
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> !es
[04:16] <OldTexas> buena suerte
[04:17] <morenooo25> ·<{ubottu}>· muchas gracias
[04:17] <morenooo25> ya toy alli
[04:17] <OldTexas> solo escribe /join #ubuntu-es y toca enter
[04:18] <OldTexas> cool
[04:18] <morenooo25> pero de q pais
[04:18] <morenooo25> es este chat
[04:18] <morenooo25> ??
[04:18] <OldTexas> allah o aqui?
[04:18] <OldTexas> Unicamenta problemas del Ubuntu
[04:18] <morenooo25> como
[04:19] <morenooo25> digo en general este chat de q pais
[04:19] <tozen> guys use the proper channel please
[04:20] <OldTexas> Creo esados unidos, pero con ingles puede ser del toda el mundo no
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> !es | OldTexas
[04:20] <morenooo25> ya eso creo
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> !english
[04:20] <OldTexas> sorry. It's that dang south Texas accent :)
[04:21] <tozen> !es | morenooo23
[04:21] <tozen> !es | morenooo25
[04:22] <OldTexas> Got a mite bit a lag on that bot there :)
[04:24] <tony___> Can Ubuntu 12.04 use the newest mainline Linux kernel?
[04:24] <OldTexas> Can, I jes upgraded mine.
[04:24] <tony___> OldTexas: How to do so?
[04:25] <OldTexas> Regular update deal in Ubuntu did it for me.  You workin' command line or in a GUI
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> !mainline
[04:26] <tony___> OldTexas: I can work in both. But usual apt-get only updates me to 3.2.xx
[04:26] <OldTexas> Ther ya go...
[04:26] <OldTexas> Thast's the latest stable ain;t it?
[04:27] <m113t> Can anyone identify with a bug that I have, in the sense that the "graphical boot screen" is not loading? Its like a command line but still has a purple background.
[04:27] <tony___> OldTexas: But on Kernel.org it says the latest is 3.11... :(
[04:27] <tozen> tony___: 12.04.3 LTS uses last one
[04:28] <OldTexas> Got me, mine updates jes a couple a days ago... lemme see if i can find the ver
[04:28] <tony___> tozen: But I'm on 12.04.2
[04:28] <tony___> tozen: Any way to upgrade to 12.04.3?
[04:29] <tozen> tony___: whay not?
[04:29] <tozen> *why
[04:29] <OldTexas> I got kernal  3.2.0-53-generic-pae
[04:29] <tony___> OldTexas: Me too...
[04:29] <tony___> tozen: 12.04.3 should be newer, right?
[04:29] <tozen> tony___: yes 3.8
[04:30] <tozen> tony___: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:30] <OldTexas> `12.04.3 is jes newer than the first 12.04 LTS, it;'s jes LTS fixes
[04:31] <tony___> OldTexas: Got it
[04:32] <OldTexas> ty tozen
[04:32] <OldTexas> culpepper
[04:32] <OldTexas> oops
[04:32] <tozen> OldTexas: ??
[04:33] <OldTexas> I jes rn that update command to check.  :)
[04:33] <OldTexas> I'm good...  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:34] <tozen> OldTexas: check your update-manager settings and checkboxes, pal
[04:36] <James_Epp> Is there going to be a release of Ubuntu TV similar to that of XBMCbuntu anytime soon? I'd love to switch over my current xbmc experience to an ubuntu one. I feel as if xbmc is just a bit too cluttered for use in my family where the parents are not exactly computer literate, and one is legally blind whom cannot use the current xbmc setup if his life depended on it.
[04:36] <OldTexas> Will do
[04:37] <m113t> Anyone know of a Linux equivalent to Download Meter (DU Meter) on windows??
[04:37] <James_Epp> m113t: System Monitor has basic information under the resources tab, but I am not 100% sure about a specific program. I'm sure it exists if you search for something along the lines of network monitor or bandwidth in the software center.
[04:38] <tozen> m113t: conky?
[04:38] <m113t> Thanks James_Epp/tozen
[04:39] <tozen> m113t: ur welcome
[04:39] <OldTexas> tozen looks right
[04:39] <James_Epp> m113t: KNemo doesn't look terrible. IDK about how much more detail it provides, however.
[04:40] <xtriz> i have setup file sharing service enabled, which  authentication mechanism  i can set to restrict uses to download the files ?
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> !info indicator-multiload | m113t
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> m113t: it records sent/received network data aswell
[04:44] <crocket> I use proprietary nvidia driver, and after installing steam, I can't log in via the login manager.
[04:44] <m113t> fantastic. This channel is incredibly helpful
[04:44] <crocket> I think steam messed the driver.
[04:44] <crocket> How can I restore it?
[04:44] <m113t> Can I ask another question lotus/ubottu?
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> m113t: sure shoot mate
[04:45] <m113t> I installed AMD catalyst thinking that it would make my gfx better (over unbuntu's stock standard drivers) and then unity didn't boot after that...
[04:45] <m113t> So i uninstalled it, and everythings working again... except the actual loading screen is in text instead of graphics?
[04:45] <m113t> Its only a cosmetic annoyance, but an annoyance none the less..
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> m113t: graphics card chipset and ubuntu version?
[04:46] <m113t> How do i find that out?
[04:46] <m113t> what are the terminal commands sorry
[04:47] <m113t> AMD E2-1800 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics × 2  & ubuntu running 13.10
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> !13.10 | m113t
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> m113t: in this channel only support for versions in topic mate
[04:47] <m113t> Thanks
[04:47] <m113t> I'll head to +1
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> m113t: i could recommend you installing 13.04 clean mate
[04:49] <m113t> I know this sounds ridiclous, but how would I go about doing that? I haven't reformatted nix before...
[04:49] <m113t> Would i just run the usb installer i installed it from?
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> m113t: make a startup usb from 13.04 ubuntu iso yes
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> m113t: then reformat your pc, clean use the whole drive for 13.04
[04:51] <m113t> thanks i'll go from there
[04:52] <m113t> lotus: can you mount an iso in ubuntu and go from there?
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> !yay | m113t
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> m113t: ubuntu got an inside usb startup creator, use that one
[04:52] <crocket> I can't login via lightdm after installing steam. I think steam messed with mesa.
[04:52] <crocket> What do I do?
[04:55] <crocket> Should I reinstall ubuntu?
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> crocket: any errors in logs somewhere?
[04:58] <crocket> lotuspsychje: I checked Xorg.0.log, but I couldn't find any significant errors.
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> crocket: maybe try failsafeX from grub recovery?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> crocket: or load a previous kernel from grub list
[04:59] <crocket> lotuspsychje: There are no pervious kernels.
[04:59] <crocket> It's not a kernel issue.
[04:59] <crocket> And grub doesn't have a failsafe entry.
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> crocket: or do a lightdm restart
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> crocket:   the lightdm login screen works?
[04:59] <crocket> lightdm restart didn't help.
[04:59] <crocket> Dr_Willis: I could see lightdm login screen.
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> crocket:  try making a new user from the console. see if they can login at lightdm
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo adduser billgates'
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> also see if your user can login at the console. ;) that should stillwork. heh.
[05:00] <crocket> Dr_Willis: I couldn't log in a guest account.
[05:00] <crocket> I was repelled back to lightdm.
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Login at the CONSOLE - see if that works
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 = consoles
[05:01] <crocket> Dr_Willis: That works
[05:01] <crocket> Dr_Willis: I think it's mesa or video driver problem.
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> at the console. make a new user. 'sudo adduser billgates'
[05:01] <crocket> steam messed with those.
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> see if that user fails - if so - then that would point to a system issue
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> its possible its a 3d driver/gfx issue with unity/compiz. you could install a lighter desktop that dosent use compiz. as a temp fix.
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> if the new user DOES work - that points to a setting issue with the problem user
[05:02] <m113t> Whats a lighter desktop that still allows you to keep the Unity layout??
[05:03] <kostkon> crocket, did you add the xorg-edgers ppa?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> m113t:  you could use most any window manager and a dock on the left hand side.
[05:03] <Atrumx> what's the issue? window manager won't start?
[05:03] <m113t> Dr_Willis: I realize that, but I think unity makes linux quite user friendly...
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> m113t:  if you want unity - you use unity
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> if you want a launcher on th eleft thats not unity. setup a dock. or gnome-shell
[05:04] <m113t> Fair enough, thanks Dr_Willis
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> !dock
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[05:04] <crocket> Dr_Willis: I created a new user and tried to log in with it, but I was repelled back to lightdm.
[05:05] <crocket> kostkon: no
[05:05] <kostkon> crocket, ok
[05:07] <m113t> !audio
[05:11] <Fekall> ok..I am getting this.. 1. mountall: fsck /boot [377] terminated with status 1 2. mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/6c7ea####### does not exist 3. mountall:/boot [1029] terminated with staus 32 4. mountall: filesystem could not be mounted /boot an error occured while mounting boot
[05:11] <Guest92123> hello, I want to change how somthing looks in ubuntu. I do not know what it is called. It is a menu, basically it is when you click the power button you get this gray menu with things like "system settings", "Displays", "Startup Applications"... ect, I want to change it so that the menu is transparent
[05:11] <Guest92123> any ideas on how to do this?
[05:11] <Fekall> 5. keys:press s to skip mounting or M to manual recovery
[05:12] <Fekall> any ideas?
[05:12] <slick0_> i want an ubuntu iphone
[05:13] <slick0_> the orange one
[05:13] <Guest92123> DNE
[05:13] <slick0_> or is that FF phone
[05:13] <Guest92123> ?
[05:13] <slick0_> DNE?
[05:14] <Guest92123>  I want to change how somthing looks in ubuntu. I do not know what it is called. It is a menu, basically it is when you click the power button you get this gray menu with things like "system settings", "Displays", "Startup Applications"... ect, I want to change it so that the menu is transparent. Any ideas?
[05:14] <pvizcay> Hi! I'm trying to set up a very simple static site with nginx. When I do "wget localhost" from inside the server, index.html gets served.  When I do it from outside, I get "Connection refused". Apart from the fact that I was serving content before nginx and I knew the port was
[05:14] <Guest92123> Does not exist.
[05:14] <pvizcay>  open, I did "sudo iptables -F"just to be sure. My config file is very simple just a "listen 80;" and a root directive. Ansy suggestions?
[05:14] <slick0_> how do i shit the apps bar to the left of the screen?
[05:14] <slick0_> shift*
[05:14] <pvizcay> I also did "sudo ufw disable". Ubuntu 12.04.
[05:15] <slick0_> how do i shift the apps bar to the left of the screen?
[05:15] <slick0_> do i need to recompile unity?
[05:15] <Guest92123> where is it currently?
[05:15] <slick0_> i meant to the right side
[05:16] <Guest92123> I think I have seen it done
[05:16] <slick0_> muslimim edition?
[05:16] <Guest92123> not sure though, have you tryed to google it yet?
[05:16] <slick0_> i use duckgo
[05:17] <m113t> lol
[05:17] <Guest92123> that does not answer my question
[05:17] <m113t> have you tried to duckgo it, Guest 92123? lmao
[05:17] <Guest92123> haha no
[05:19] <Guest92123> I want to change how somthing looks in ubuntu. I do not know what it is called. It is a menu, basically it is when you click the power button you get this gray menu with things like "system settings", "Displays", "Startup Applications"... ect, I want to change it so that the menu is transparent. Any ideas?
[05:20] <Coolot> hello guys! newbie here with ubuntu. my issue is i have 4 partitions with win7 then i installed ubuntu 12.04 on a separate hard drive. when i am on ubuntu it can't detect one of the 4 partitions. it is only showing 3. any ideas guys?
[05:22] <mysteriousdarren> Coolot: does gparted recognize the other partition?
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> Coolot, Run sudo fdisk -l in ubuntu and pastebin it.
[05:23] <Coolot> will try it guys.... will just switch OS to ubuntu i am currently with win7
[05:23] <Coolot> brb
[05:24] <TeflonDog> I have a gigabyte Brix (so no CD/DVD drives) running ubuntu 13.04. i want to uninstall it and install win8 from the usb. i enter bios to select boot but only my SSD shows up. no option to boot from USB. how can i boot from usb?
[05:25] <reisio> TeflonDog: is there a bootable usb image even connected?
[05:26] <TeflonDog> yes, i believe so. i created a win8 boot usb from an iso and it is plugged in.
[05:27] <TeflonDog> i used that win7 usb boot creator program
[05:28] <crocket> damn it. I'm just reinstalling ubuntu.
[05:28] <crocket> linux hardware support still sucks.
[05:29] <xmetal> back
[05:29] <Seven_Six_Two> that's not true. more hardware is supported with linux
[05:29] <xmetal> depends on your hardware and willingness to try to get it to work, if you ask me
[05:30] <xmetal> years ago i had a pain with RH Linux and hardware ... i almost never have to manually install anything with modern distros
[05:30] <xmetal> :)
[05:31] <UserError> xmetal, technically you could make a massive kernel to support all hardware
[05:32] <UserError> and download all the bins
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> i definatly have a lot of hardwre that windows7+ no longer supports
[05:32] <UserError> and still would weigh less than WinSxS
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> TeflonDog:  id see if a linux boot usb shows up. Its possible you made the windows usb wrongly
[05:35] <xmetal> well assuming usb drive was created correctly ... there is one option i tried on my old laptop (with failing hardware anyway) that ... was sort of buggy to be honest
[05:35] <xmetal> (old laptop had no usb support, but this allowed me to do so)
[05:35] <UserError> Does anyone know what the actual direct Xorg (non-meta, or just add meta fillers after) packages required for ubuntu are for the intel HD platform?
[05:35] <xmetal> dang ... i forgot the name
[05:35] <xmetal> brb
[05:36] <xmetal> starts with a P i think and it is a bootloader that loads before grub if i am not mistake
[05:36] <TeflonDog> ok. i guess i can make another ubuntu boot usb and try that. but in the bios it only shows Crucial SSD ... it won't show the usb drive unless there is a bootable file on it?
[05:36] <coolot> hello guys i'm back. i can see /dev/sda1-4
[05:36] <coolot> and /dev/sdb1-10 for my ubuntu
[05:37] <xmetal> Plop Boot Manager
[05:37] <xmetal> thats it
[05:37] <xmetal> i knew it had a funny sounding name
[05:37] <xmetal> lol
[05:42] <TeflonDog> plop
[05:44] <Fekall> ok..I am getting this.. 1. mountall: fsck /boot [377] terminated with status 1 2. mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/6c7ea####### does not exist 3. mountall:/boot [1029] terminated with staus 32 4. mountall: filesystem could not be mounted /boot an error occured while mounting boot
[05:44] <Fekall> 5. keys:press s to skip mounting or M to manual recovery
[05:44] <Fekall> any ideas?
[05:44] <TeflonDog> thanks for the tips. cheers
[05:46] <jack> hello der...
[05:46] <Guest14851> nick jack
[05:46] <Guest14851> hello
[05:47] <Guest14851> hello
[05:47] <SchrodingersScat> Guest14851: hello
[05:47] <Guest14851> my bluetooth is not working ,,,,,, m using ubuntu 12.04 ..... i'v installed bluetooh manager... bt still its not working
[05:48] <SchrodingersScat> Guest14851: that's a dark road to travel down sometimes.
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> i was thinking someone was using bluezman or somthing the other day to get bt going
[05:48] <Guest14851> wt to do yaar..
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com may have some guides on doing it
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> Fekall:  possibally your uuid has changed for the device. or your fstab got altered
[05:49] <Guest14851> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
[05:49] <Guest14851> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
[05:49] <Guest14851> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[05:49] <Guest14851> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[05:49] <Guest14851> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[05:49] <Guest14851> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
[05:49] <FloodBot1> Guest14851: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:52] <Fekall> Dr_Willis...is there an easy fix for that...I am really linux challenged
[05:52] <Fekall> I did read something about booting using the disk and then changing some directories or something to that effect
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Fekall:  check your /etc/fstab and compare it to the UUID of your /boot/ partition.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> s- should skip it and bgoot the system up. but its odd that its /boot/
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> unless you setup a seperate /boot/ partition
[05:55] <Fekall> dont think so
[05:55] <Fekall> I just followed the prompts
[05:55] <Fekall> when loading
[05:55] <Fekall> I did run a restore from the disk once
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> somthing is weird then if you dd not specifically create a /boot/ partition
[05:55] <Dwood> hey guys
[05:55] <Fekall> and reloaded the grub
[05:55] <Fekall> might have done some damage then
[05:56] <Dwood> Right quick, i need some tips, I assume this is a simple fix but not sure
[05:56] <Dwood> So I start ubuntu and my mouse (utechsmart 8200dpa mouse)
[05:56] <Dwood> does not work
[05:57] <Fekall> ok Dr_Willis...I will check that stuff out..thanks
[05:57] <Dwood> Where can i look to discover possible solutions
[05:57] <Dwood> A google on the subject turned up answers for touchpads and did nothing to alleviate the problem
[05:57] <xmetal> back again
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> Dwood:  so thats a normal usb mouse?
[05:58] <Dwood> essentially.
[05:59] <coolot> hello guys newbie here... i have 4 partitions i created with win7 and i installed ubuntu in a separate hard drive. the thing is ubuntu is only seeing 3 partitions drives but when i do fdisk -l i am seeing 4 of them. any advise guys.
[05:59] <Dwood> It's got a couple of extra features but nothing extraordinary imho
[05:59] <Dwood> It's not even wireless
[05:59] <Dwood> The mouse is receiving power
[05:59] <Dwood> The lights are on
[06:00] <Dwood> But the os isn't recognizing movement
[06:00] <Dwood> or clicks
[06:00] <Dwood> or anything else for that matter
[06:00] <Dwood> lol
[06:01] <Seven_Six_Two> coolot, are they all formatted?
[06:01] <xmetal> hmm @ coolot
[06:03] <Dwood> im running ubuntu 5.10
[06:03] <crocket> Dwood: wow
[06:03] <Dwood> jk lol
[06:04] <Base-Dev> Dwood, that is not supported anymore.
[06:04] <Dwood> i'm kidding
[06:04] <Dwood> 100%
[06:04] <Seven_Six_Two> Dwood, no, no...*kidding* is not supported anymore!
[06:05] <Base-Dev> !kidding | Dwood
[06:06] <xmetal> so there are 4 (i am guessing NTFS) parititons and ubuntu installed on another drive
[06:06] <Dwood> :(
[06:06] <Seven_Six_Two> xmetal, can you see them all with gnome-disks
[06:07] <xmetal> lol i am not the one asking
[06:07] <xmetal> (trying to help the one asking, here)
[06:07] <Seven_Six_Two> oops...sorry. coolot, are you there?
[06:07] <SchrodingersScat> Seven_Six_Two: coolot was asking
[06:07] <Dwood> I'm going to upgrade my os and see if that works. I haven't run this os for 2 years, it seems the LTS was out last April
[06:07] <xmetal> its only seeing 3 of the 4 NTFS paritions?
[06:08] <Dwood> I'm not holding my breath for it, b/c Win 7 supported it with no updates needed
[06:08] <Dwood> (having not been run for 2 years neither)
[06:09] <Dwood> 1 .5 hrs left, i'm going to bed. cya
[06:10] <xmetal> uh ... what was the issue, guys?
[06:10] <xmetal> lol
[06:10] <xmetal> oops
[06:10] <xmetal> got users confused
[06:10] <xmetal> lol
[06:14] <raven> Hey everyone. Is this the best place to ask about LightDM issues?
[06:15] <drcasper_> hi guys
[06:15] <raven> sup drcasper_
[06:15] <slick0_> http://ubuntusatanic.org/wallpapers.php best ubuntu
[06:15] <aeon-ltd> raven: it is if you're on ubuntu
[06:16] <UserError> I think it's pretty stupid they couldn't just release a "conversion" bash script
[06:16] <UserError> for ubuntu
[06:16] <UserError> instead of an entire iso
[06:16] <UserError> Obviously satan isn't edgy enough
[06:16] <drcasper_> i currently opened an account for ubuntu 12.10 VPS to host a mail server, but i can't quite get remote desktop to work with tightvnc.. i'm wondering what the best way (program) would be to remote into an ubuntu desktop (kind of like RDP on windows ) ..
[06:16] <raven> Im on ElementaryOS which is a derivative of Ubuntu, but ive got the same issue in Ubuntu itself too. The issue is, i found a thread ages ago on askubuntu.com i believe it was, where i could set the LightDM login screen as the lock scree as well (so instead of hitting switch user, it would automatically take me to the login) Does anyone know how to do this as i cannot find it?
[06:16] <slick0_> what are you doing here? are stalking me?
[06:17] <raven> drcasper_ i feel your pain, i run Ubuntu Server via Colocation and found that VNC was rediculous to login. I found that installing VNC server and then using TIghtVNC was the best way for me.
[06:17] <UserError> raven, click the power button
[06:17] <UserError> top right
[06:17] <UserError> there is also a hotkey
[06:18] <UserError> listed on their site
[06:18] <aeon-ltd> UserError: they could, they're called meta-packages. but that would be up to the devs not canonical or the core ubuntu team
[06:18] <PRINCESS_FLUFF> hi, do you guys get Ubuntu to work well in a virtualbox VM easily? It crashes all the time for me
[06:18] <UserError> PRINCESS, use Lubuntu in a VM
[06:18] <aeon-ltd> PRINCESS_FLUFF: well you need to find the cause first
[06:18] <drcasper_> ah man. ok i was hoping there was something better.. i'm seeing something called NX
[06:19] <slick0_> No Execute?
[06:19] <raven> UserError, what exactly to you mean by Click the Power Button, i know if i click that and choose LOCK it will take me to the lock screen... I am more looking at how i can get it to take me to the login screen after sleep.
[06:19] <slick0_> mint give me my nick back
[06:19] <aeon-ltd> raven: are you sure it just wasn't a customized password unlock screen not a login?
[06:20] <UserError> raven, that is in the settings
[06:20] <stinkt> Dr_Willis: are you around
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> in and out. ;)
[06:20] <aeon-ltd> the doc is in da house!
[06:20] <UserError> that is also stock behavior
[06:20] <stinkt> ok..its fekall
[06:20] <UserError> after a certain amoutn of time
[06:20] <stinkt> I looked at my fstab
[06:20] <raven> aeon-ltd. Well im currently dual booting ElementaryOS and ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and they both take me to the simplified login page when it comes out of sleep. I did fine a thread before that showed me how to set it that it takes me to the "Switch User" page, but i cant find tat anymore.
[06:21] <UserError> raven
[06:21] <stinkt> or similar
[06:21] <UserError> i already told u
[06:21] <UserError> the solution
[06:21] <stinkt> and the UUID
[06:21] <slick0_> why should i buy the new iphone if i can just buy new cover in whatever colours i want
[06:21] <slick0_> ?
[06:21] <UserError> i've been using luna since the first git
[06:21] <stinkt> file:///run/udev/links/disk\x2fby-uuid\x2f6c7ea282-da0d-499f-9030-6da098d9f4c6
[06:21] <UserError> on one of my boxes
[06:21] <UserError> right after jupiter
[06:21] <stinkt> I dont know what to change it too
[06:21] <xmetal> wrong channel
[06:21] <stinkt> or what to chang
[06:21] <stinkt> e
[06:21] <kostkon> slick0_ is a bot...
[06:21] <UserError> eos has their own chat
[06:21] <UserError> go there
[06:21] <UserError> i already told u
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> stinkt:  look at 'sudo blkid' output to show your partions uuid's
[06:22] <xmetal> ah ok
[06:22] <raven> Okay. I had the same issue in Ubuntu 12.04 stock which is why i thought to ask here first :) Thanks UserError :)
[06:22] <slick0_> some times you need to run x as root
[06:22] <stinkt> kk.../dev/mapper/spawnranch--vg-root: UUID="69683874-43b0-477d-8d08-11be918fe299" TYPE="ext4"
[06:22] <stinkt> is that what I am looking for?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> slick0_:  i cant recall needind to do that in the last 7+ years
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> stinkt:  and what partion is the one with that uuid? /boot/ ? / ? or what
[06:24] <wylde>  /join #crunchbang
[06:24] <stinkt> k..looking now
[06:24] <wylde> whoops
[06:24] <stinkt> this  one .../dev/sda1: UUID="6c7ea282-da0d-499f-9030-6da098d9f4c6" TYPE="ext2"
[06:25] <slick0_> do you know what distro MS recomends to replace XP ?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> stinkt:  now look at the /etc/fstab file and see if that sda1 is supposed to be / or /boot   because  that uuid does not match what you showed eralier..
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> stinkt:  you may want to install the pastebinit command and 'sudo blkid | pastebinit'  and 'mount | pastebinit'  and 'pastebinit /etc/fstab' for the people in here to look at
[06:26] <aeon-ltd> slick0_: for what purpose?
[06:26] <aeon-ltd> slick0_: 7 + 8 are both supported and will be for some time
[06:26] <stinkt> k
[06:27] <slick0_> for thr poupose if replacing Xp
[06:27] <coolot> Seven_Six_Two : yes sir they are all in NTFS
[06:27] <coolot> xmetal	 : yes sir?
[06:27] <slick0_> of*
[06:27] <aeon-ltd> slick0_: what ever you want, if you asked microsoft they'd probably push 8
[06:28] <coolot> Seven_Six_Two : yes sir they are all formatted to ntfs
[06:28] <coolot> sorry for the late reply. i am practicing command lines
[06:29] <xmetal> i forgot what the question/issue was
[06:30] <coolot> xmetal : i have 4 partitions i created with win7 and i installed ubuntu in a separate hard drive. the thing is ubuntu is only seeing 3 partitions drives but when i do fdisk -l i am seeing 4 of them. any advise guys.
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> coolot:  a seperate hard drive? whts the exact fdisk -l command you are using?  you  are seeing both ahrd drives?
[06:33] <aeon-ltd> coolot: explain the ubuntu is seeing part?
[06:33] <drcasper_> guys.. what gui should i install on a server to keep it light?
[06:33] <crocket> When I instruct ubuntu to shut down, it keeps saying "soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 22s! umount"
[06:33] <crocket> Why does it keep locking up?
[06:33] <aeon-ltd> drcasper: openbox?
[06:34] <drcasper_> xfce vs gnome vs kde
[06:34] <aeon-ltd> crocket: does a process need to end properly before shutdown?
[06:34] <drcasper_> i need a gui because i'm a noob at linux :/
[06:34] <wylde> drcasper_: lxde?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> drcasper_:  why do youneed a gui on a server? You can install just a window manager. like jwm. Lubuntu would be the lightest desktop
[06:34] <coolot> Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
[06:34] <coolot> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
[06:34] <coolot> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[06:34] <aeon-ltd> drcasper: only xfce is light out of those 3 (relatively)
[06:34] <coolot> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[06:34] <coolot> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[06:34] <FloodBot1> coolot: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:34] <coolot> Disk identifier: 0x498783f6
[06:34] <crocket> aeon-ltd: yes
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> drcasper_:  you should have installed a desktop edition then. not a server
[06:35] <drcasper_> i didnt have a choice. i got a VPS that came with 12.10
[06:35] <aeon-ltd> crocket: then you should look into that process and why it has a long shutdown time
[06:36] <crocket> aeon-ltd: That's what I have been doing.
[06:36] <UserError> aeon, use e17
[06:36] <UserError> it is modular
[06:36] <aeon-ltd> i'm not the one that needs help
[06:36] <UserError> it has less ram usage than LXDE on stock install
[06:36] <UserError> oh
[06:36] <drcasper_> Dr_Willis: thank you for your imput..there is not much i need to do with that machine.. i just want to setup a mail server and a web server, but i think i would need some graphical interface to feel more comfortable.. which one would you recomend? i have 50gb in that box and my site is going to be a static page..
[06:36] <UserError> sorry i'm drunkk
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> drcasper_:  and how to you plan on using this desktop youinstall on the vps?
[06:37] <drcasper_> ..so i'm not gonna be using a lot of space
[06:37] <aeon-ltd> usererror indeed
[06:37] <drcasper_> i can remote into this machine via freenx or tightvnc ?
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> drcasper_:  you dont really need any desktop. a simple window manager will do
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> and you can use x forwarding/ssh
[06:37] <Artemis3> drcasper, https://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/a-memory-comparison-of-light-linux-desktops/
[06:37] <crocket> ubuntu 13.04 is buggy
[06:38] <xmetal> i wouldn't suggest e17 for newbies to linux
[06:38] <aeon-ltd> coolot: stop it
[06:38] <crocket> ubuntu 13.04 can't even shut itself down.
[06:38] <xmetal> not hard, but there are better DE's if you ask me
[06:38] <UserError> omg art
[06:38] <UserError> i have been looking for that blog
[06:38] <UserError> for weeks
[06:38] <UserError> i saw it like a month ago, thank you
[06:38] <crocket> I'm sure ubuntu is a great OS, and its inherent vaule doesn't go away just because of a single weird bug, but I don't have time to investigate the bug, and the bug is too annoying!!!
[06:39] <Artemis3> UserError, yw
[06:39] <drcasper_> Dr_Willis: ok.. i'll take that route.. which is your windows manager of choice if i may ask ?
[06:39] <slick0_> if you cant sell it it bug it
[06:39] <wylde> crocket: then I'd suggest using the LTS version
[06:40] <crocket> wylde: It's the kernel version that's wrong.
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> drcasper_:  any of them will do the basic jobs.  jwm is the tinyiest one i belive
[06:40] <amar> akakas
[06:40] <crocket> wylde: I'm not sure if LTS would do.
[06:40] <drcasper_> like i said, space is not really a proble,
[06:40] <Guest66567> yes
[06:41] <Guest66567> sdjjskdj
[06:41] <Guest66567> hhddjhsk
[06:41] <Guest66567> jjjshh
[06:41] <wylde> crocket: why wouldn't it?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> drcasper_:  install all the main desktops then.  ;) it depends on how you plan on using the system more then anything else
[06:41] <crocket> wylde: What about kernel upgrade?
[06:41] <crocket> I need the mainline kernel.
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> !pastebinit | coolot
[06:42] <abang> how to play Fruty loop 9 in ubuntu 10.04 ? help me :(
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> !pastebin | coolot
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> abang:  use wine for windows apps.
[06:42] <crocket> What is the mainline kernel?
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> !mainline
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Poor bot is lagged. ;(
[06:42] <abang> done but, the sound is not active
[06:43] <wylde> Dr_Willis: I think ubottu is offline
[06:43] <crocket> Dr_Willis: Can I add mainline PPA to synaptic?
[06:43] <Ari-Yang> crocket, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> crocket:  theres mainline kernel ppas
[06:45] <crocket> MAN!
[06:46] <crocket> nvidia proprietary driver just puts virtual terminal back into the stone age.
[06:46] <drcasper_> ok im thinking fluxbox for my vps should be good..
[06:48] <guest____> How do I access the irssi config file?
[06:48] <guest____> I cannot find the irssi config file.
[06:49] <wilee-nilee> guest____, looked in .config it's a cli otherwise never used it myself.
[06:49] <guest____> cli?
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> command line interface the terminal
[06:50] <m113t> Anyone here know how to get a freenode IP cloak?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> guest____:  if you plan on using irssi. you really should have some command line skills also
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> guest____, open home hit ctrl-h and look in .config not sure that is what you want though
[06:50] <anonymous_> any one here to teach me how to work anonymous
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> guest____:  it should be in ~/.irssi   anbd the irssi docs/homepage has tutorials
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> !cloak | anonymous_
[06:51] <stinkt> ok Dr_Willis here is what I got
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> anonymous_:  ask in #freenode for a cloak
[06:51] <stinkt> http://pastebin.com/qz5ctrEy
[06:51] <stinkt> http://pastebin.com/BxMLiGgY
[06:51] <stinkt> http://pastebin.com/FgqUWkTg
 Thanks, that worked for me!
[06:53] <wilee-nilee> guest____, cool
[06:53] <Ashva> Hi, I have installed ubuntu 12.04 on vaio Z series ultra thin, Does any one know how can I install driver for it's fingerprint?
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> stinkt:  you seem to be using LVM - thats somthing i never use.
[06:54] <stinkt> oh..damn
[06:54] <raven> AShva, what is the exact model?
[06:54] <stinkt> well then...maybe a reinstall is called for then
[06:54] <stinkt> dammit.
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> stinkt:  and are  you using Mint? If so you should be in the Mint support channels
[06:54] <stinkt> no
[06:54] <raven> Ashva, is this the Z13 ultraThin?
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu dosent use lvm by default
[06:55] <stinkt> I had to boot off of this disk
[06:55] <Ashva> raven: thanks for reply, I'm not really sure
[06:55] <crocket> Should I execute "add-apt-repository http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/" to register mainline kernel ppa to my system?
[06:55] <stinkt> I am running ubuntu server 13.04
[06:55] <Ashva> raven: let me check
[06:55] <raven> There should be a model somewhere on the laptop, on a sticker.
[06:56] <auronandace> crocket: if thats what you want (be aware we can't support ppas here)
[06:56] <crocket> I want to know how to add a ppa properly
[06:56] <auronandace> !ppa | crocket
[06:56] <crocket> I can't figure out the right argument to add-apt-repository
[06:56] <crocket> auronandace, The bot is dead.
[06:56] <Ashva> raven: svZ13
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> the ppa web sites show the commands to use under their help popup
[06:56] <raven> crocket - sudo add-apt-repository ppa:<insertPPA>
[06:57] <rabten> hi, i just installed ubuntu 12.04. in firefox, when i click on a file (such as one of the 'install now's from  http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/12.04/?category=Graphics&page=2), the 'Launch Application With' dialogue box appears, but not the program i want to use, such as the Software Center. is  this a common problem?
[06:57] <crocket> raven, The problem is that I can't figure out the ppa name of mainline kernel ppa.
[06:57] <raven> corcket, you are attemptingt to put 12.04 into Mainline correct?
[06:57] <Ashva> raven: yeah your right, it's VAIO SVZ131
[06:57] <Ashva> a2
[06:58] <rabten> also i can't locate it from the 'choose another' menu
[06:58] <raven> Ashva, the fingerprint scanner on your laptop is currenlty not supported, but apparently will be supported in the 3.10 kernel mainline release. It is a new Authentech system and thus has not been coded for LInux yet.
[06:58] <raven> crocket, You are attempting to put 12.04 into Mainline correct>
[06:58] <crocket> raven, I'm using 13.04
[06:59] <stinkt> Dr_Willis: ..thanks for trying to help me out..appreciate it much!
[06:59] <Ashva> raven: thank you very much, You helped me alot
[06:59] <raven> My pleasure Ashva
[07:00] <raven> Crocket , i do not believe there is a Mainline PPA, as it is the Proposed PPA that handles the kernel updates. Are you attempting to update Kernel to the latest? i found that you have to manually install the kernel
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> i really wouldent go too far out of my way for a fingerprint scanner. ;)
[07:01] <rabten> hi, i'm on 12.04. Using Firefox. when i click on a d/l link, or file, the 'launch application with' box appears, but not the program i want to use, the software center. i can't locate the software center from the 'choose another' list either
[07:01] <m113t> What does everybody think of the new iPhone 5S?
[07:01] <crocket> raven, 3.8.0-19-generic hangs during shutdown.
[07:01] <raven> m113t, it's apple crap, nuff said
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> rabten:  you want a .deb to automatically open with software center?
[07:02] <auronandace> m113t: off topic
[07:02] <helmut_> hi
[07:02] <raven> crocket, you are using 64bit correct?
[07:02] <rabten> Dr. yes, i have installed the pacakge and GPG key for getdeb
[07:03] <crocket> raven, yes
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> rabten:  it would be easier to  gdebi as the app to use for .deb files. or just download the .deb then double click on it.
[07:03] <raven> crocket, please check out this page : http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-the-linux-kernel-3-9-9-on-ubuntu-debian-derivates/
[07:03] <raven> crocket, that link has instructions on using wget int the terminal to manually get the 3.9.9 kernel and how to install them.
[07:04] <raven> I found that the 3.9.9 kernel is a lot faster, and less how power hungry than 3.8 which has power regressions. If that does not fix your shutdown issue, please let me know of any errors that show up during shutdown
[07:05] <rabten> Dr. i'm following a book 'ubuntu made easy'.  and have followed instructions for adding the getdeb repository. now it says to go to the website, choose 'install now' and then choose 'the software center' from the launch application with box. but it's not there, is that common? i also experience the same thing with a file i wanted to launch with Deluge,  - Deluge didn't appear in the 'launch app with' box and i couldn't find it
[07:05] <treeprogram> hi, I'm getting the following error show up when I boot up "hda-intel: no codecs found"
[07:05] <rabten> in 'choose another'
[07:05] <auronandace> rabten: be aware that installing .debs from outside the official repos can cause dependency problems
[07:05] <treeprogram> it started occurring after I was forced to do a hard reboot. Any suggestions on how I can fix it?
[07:05] <crocket> raven, I'm somewhat disappointed by the wrong choice of kernel version.
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> rabten:  i would imagine that book is out of date.     personally i associate 'gdebi' with .debs  (well gdebi-gtk) since it would load in 1/6th the time software center would take to load
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> rabten:  easiest is just to save the .deb and then install themn
[07:07] <raven> crocket, what do you mean by the wrong choice?
[07:08] <rabten> ok i tried that. there's no 'save' option though , just 'launch application' . how do i save  or download the .deb ? the site i am on is http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/12.04/?category=Graphics&page=2
[07:08] <crocket> raven, 3.8.0 is a wrong choice.
[07:08] <rabten> (and the book is actually using 13.04 so i think it's recent)
[07:09] <karab44> hello
[07:09] <raven> crocket, i hear your pain. Im dual booting ElementaryoS (12.04) and Ubuntu 13.04, and found that 3.8 on both of those are buggy as. Ever since the 3.6 Kernel, i havent been able to login with lightdm fluently. I hope that 3.10 fixes these issues
[07:09] <raven> hello karab44 :)
[07:09] <karab44> :D
[07:09] <karab44> how's goin?
[07:09] <karab44> I thought that I can improve my ubuntu by making my mouse more useful
[07:10] <crocket> raven, Linux is certainly a win, but it's buggy.
[07:10] <karab44> for example, when I press mouse button 3 on web browser I should expect something like scroll in every direction, but it doesn't work
[07:10] <karab44> how to extend mouse functionality?
[07:10] <raven> crocket, Linux is only buggy because its basically reverse engineered by the public. It is a LOT more powerful than Windows and MacOSX, but becuase of its complexity, one little problem can ruin it.
[07:11] <crocket> raven, Why is it reverse engineered? It is opensource.
[07:12] <raven> crocket, When i say reverse engineered i mean that the public has to come sometimes come up with fixes for problems because the designers / company that make the peripheral or hardware etc will not fix it.
[07:12] <karab44> Ok I found solution, Ty :)
[07:13] <crocket> raven, So hardware vendors make people reverse-engineer their hardwares?
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> crocket:  yes.
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> crocket:  they dont release specs.. so people have to figure them out
[07:14] <raven> Crocket, exactly what Dr_Willis said.
[07:14] <raven> crocket : Because of this, sometimes things dont run as expected because the community is having to take something that they didn't create, and make drivers for it.
[07:15] <karab44> nope, I was wrong
[07:16] <raven> karab44, what exactly were you trying to accomplish?
[07:17] <karab44> on middle button, when I press it in ie web browser I should have horizontal and vertical scrolling, same thing in nautilus and others...
[07:17] <drcasper_> could anyone recommend me a good - easy to use - light mail server for 12.10 ?
[07:17] <karab44> but it doesn't work
[07:17] <drcasper_> also the same for a web server
[07:18] <karab44> but middle button works, because I use it to close tabs.
[07:18] <karab44> and move/copy files
[07:18] <karab44> but I miss this scrolling
[07:19] <raven> karab44 that is more a Windows thing. I cant do that on my mouse, not that i would want to really.  A lot of web browsers have that integrated, but its not currently integrated into mainline OS, as it wasnt a crucial thing to have added
[07:21] <raven> drcasper_ Apache is THE BEST web server for LInux, so use that. As for mail servers, im not too sure, ive had some experience with PostFix etc, but they all seem a little.....clunky
[07:22] <drcasper_> thank you raven .. i shall install apache
[07:22] <raven> drcasper_ i am finding out what i currently use on my server (my friend installed it for me) and i will let you know (in regards to mail server).
[07:23] <drcasper_> :)
[07:23] <karab44> raven: It's a manner of mouse drivers, not OS related.
[07:23] <karab44> I did such trick years ago configuring xorg.
[07:23] <raven> karab44, well in that case, what mouse do you have? Because my Logitech has all these features built in that just, work.
[07:23] <karab44> Logitech G5
[07:24] <raven> Logitech G5 should work fine with Logitech extensions as their support is pretty good.
[07:24] <karab44> wow, Have to try
[07:25] <raven> it really depends on the mouse, and whether or not the software you are using supports it.
[07:25] <raven> drcasper_ have a look at iredmail.org. Ive used it before and its pretty good
[07:25] <karab44> could you point what extension is that, because software center shows a bunch of that.
[07:26] <drcasper_> excelent raven
[07:26] <raven> drcasper_ of course :) cant recommend something that's shite :P
[07:30] <lessshaste> how can you control the case fan speed from ubuntu?
[07:30] <juenn> hai yee! anybody who can help me on configuring my webserver?
[07:30] <juenn> how can i edit the servername in ubuntu 12? httpd.conf is missing
[07:30] <chiques> Is the 64 bit version of 13.04 any less stable than the 32 bit?
[07:30] <karab44> okay, nevermind. This is a small thing.
[07:31] <auronandace> chiques: not in my experience
[07:31] <chiques> auronandace, do you notice a performance difference?
[07:31] <karab44> I have a bigger issue. Anybody tried to force to work any DLNA server with Sony Bravia? I tried any DLNA server on the market and it doesn't work. Where do I go wrong?
[07:32] <auronandace> chiques: if you got 64bit capable hardware then there really isn't much reason not to run 64bit
[07:32] <slick0_> karab44, did you enable port forwarding
[07:32] <chiques> auronandace, ok, that's what I thought too. I guess I'm aging my self by thinking the 64 bit version will be more buggy
[07:33] <karab44> slick0_: As far as I know, I don't need any port forwarding
[07:34] <crocket> How do I set up ibus in gnome shell in ubuntu 13.04?
[07:34] <crocket> Language settings aren't applied to gnome shell.
[07:35] <karab44> Although I have my Home Theater plugged to different router but it's bridged to one subnet.
[07:36] <slick0_> IPv6?
[07:36] <karab44> no, IPv4
[07:36] <slick0_> IPv6 might work out better
[07:36] <karab44> I have a client bridge between routers
[07:37] <slick0_> im just guessing
[07:37] <karab44> slick0_: I don't believe Sony bravia uses ipv6... hmm anyway I want to stay with v4
[07:37] <slick0_> you didnt bought an IPv6 tshirt?
[07:37] <karab44> hehehe no
[07:38] <karab44> who needs ipv6
[07:39] <karab44> maybe when every microwave, iron and fridge will use internet I'll start thinking about ipv6
[07:41] <MonkeyDust> karab44  in the near future, ipv6 will become the standard, out of necessity, not because someone would "want" it
[07:42] <crocket> In gnome shell, if I enter background settings, I see http://imagebin.org/270871. It has no window manager, and it doesn't allow me to add a custom background image in the UI.
[07:42] <crocket> What's wrong with gnome shell?
[07:42] <crocket> Should I just go with unity or ubuntu gnome?
[07:42] <karab44> anyway I heard that Sony's DLNA is not that liberal as others that are just simple uPnP
[07:42] <madsailor> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion
[07:43] <madsailor> karab44,  ^
[07:43] <karab44> MonkeyDust: I agree but nobody can force me to use it. I can still light house with candle if I want.
[07:45] <karab44> madsailor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_transition_mechanisms
[07:48] <karab44> People think that IPv4 will just vanish from one day to another.
[07:49] <bazhang> karab44, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:49] <crocket> Jesus
[07:49] <crocket> GNOME devs are becoming weirdos.
[07:49] <karab44> bazhang: tell it to your friends, that tries to explain some obvious things
[07:50] <crocket> GNOME devs refuse to remove background image settings that are present in other DEs.
[07:50] <crocket> GNOME devs insist on removing background image settings that are present in other DEs.
[07:50] <crocket> They don't want us to resize background images in background image settings.
[07:50] <karab44> You come ask for DLNA server and you hear lecture about ip standards HAHA.
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  like ushare, or plex. or media-tomb. or xbmc.. or. hmmm i think theres 3 more in the repos
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> simpledlna, and
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> i cant think of any others ;)
[07:53] <crocket> GNOME 3 as of 3.6 is an evil.
[07:53] <auronandace> crocket: please stop the ranting, this is a ubuntu support channel
[07:53] <karab44> Dr_Willis: I tried plex - it's nice but it doesn't work with Sony Bravia. Mediatomb, minidlna, rygel - they all fail to connect to Home Theater
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  thats weird. they all work great with my Samsung  Smart tv and my rasperry pi
[07:54] <karab44> I think they all uses simple uPnP
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive noticed a complex upnp ;)
[07:55] <karab44> Dr_Willis: yes, I don't say they doesn't work at all. But I can not force them to work with bravia. I read about problems with Sony.
[07:55] <xtriz> what is the use of openldap ?
[07:56] <xtriz> ldap is for maintaining credentials of users  who log into your box ?
[07:57] <madsailor> Not quite support, but I was looking for a good place to find both sides of the argument for Wayland vs the Ubuntu/Canonical version of a re-implementation of Xserver?
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> !info openldap
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> madsailor:  perhaps in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> and the xmir wiki page
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> or mir wiki page.
[07:58] <madsailor> ok. thx Dr_Willis
[07:58] <MonkeyDust> madsailor  there's also #ubuntu-mir
[08:05] <xtriz> can anyone tell why we use openldap ?
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> perhaps the wikipedia page on the tool ?
[08:07] <electricprism> Q: can someone help me understand why my xorg.conf appears zoomed in, when i move the mouse to the corner the screen moves http://pastebin.com/Mjx95JKT
[08:08] <xtriz> Dr_Willis, yeah i tried but still having bit hard time to understand what it does exactly.
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> electricprism:  theres an X feature for 'panning' around a display if your desktop for example is set to 1080x1080 and your monitor is onluy able to show for example 600x800
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> electricprism: ive not seen it used in years.
[08:09] <electricprism> Dr_Willis: My monitor is a Samsung 710n and supports 1280x1024. The Ubuntu login screen shows up with the correct depth but when I start unity I have a zoomed in view which "pans" / scrolls as i move the mouse to the edges
[08:10] <electricprism> Perhaps I specified the driver in my xorg.conf wrong
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> the xrandr tools or the monitors/display tool may be able to correct it electricprism
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> I dont even need an xorg.conf file on most of my machines
[08:11] <electricprism> Dr_Willis - I wish I was so fortunate :) without one Ubuntu maxes my resolution at 1024x768, thanks Ill google  xrandr tools i think
[08:11] <cloudy_nz> xtriz: it ties in with Microsoft Active Directory, it's a messaging protocol
[08:12] <cloudy_nz> ADS manages network resources, and can translate resource names into IP addresses, etc.
[08:13] <xtriz> cloudy_nz, ok :)
[08:14] <xtriz>  Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'test -x /usr/bin/apt-show-versions || exit 0 ; apt-show-versions -i'
[08:14] <xtriz> getting this error on doing sudo apt-get update
[08:17] <UserError> What are the minimum number of packages
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> thats sort of vague
[08:22] <xtre_>  Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'test -x /usr/bin/apt-show-versions || exit 0 ; apt-show-versions -i'
[08:22] <xtre_> getting this error on doing sudo apt-get update
[08:35] <raven> xtre_ : Type : sudo dpkg --clear-avail, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f
[08:37] <crocket> how do I disable global application menu?
[08:37] <xtre_> raven, still the same error.
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> crocket:   there some guides on how at askubuntu.com and the webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites  crocket
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> you can remove it completely, or disable it for single apps via env settings
[08:38] <raven> xtre_ do you get same error if you run : sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:39] <xtre_> i am running on ubuntu 13.04
[08:39] <xtre_> doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:41] <xtre_> raven, yeah same error when doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:41] <raven> xtre_ : Okay hmm. Did you recently do an upgrade from one OS to version to another?
[08:42] <xtre_> xtre_, no i had done nothing.
[08:42] <raven> xtre:_ also, under your software sources, ensure that it is set to Main Server instead of "Server for <country>"
[08:42] <xtre_> only delete files from cache folder as my root was full.
[08:43] <xtre_> raven, i can't open ubuntu software center too ..!!
[08:43] <raven> xtre_: that would probably be why. Hmm . Try removing apt-show-version, and then re-install it
[08:43] <raven> xtre_: It's definitely an error in regards to the apt-show-version being corrupted. If not, remove the config file for it in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20apt-show-versions
[08:45] <raven> xtre_ :  To uninstall and re-install it, run the following commands in a terminal : sudo apt-get remove apt-show-version && sudo apt-get install apt-show-version
[08:45] <xtre_> raven, removed the file. while installing apt-show-version it says unable to locate the package.
[08:45] <xtre_> it was already removed from my system.
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> you removed everything from the apt cache directory?
[08:47] <xtre_> Dr_Willis, yes
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> how exactly did you delete them?
[08:48] <raven> oh
[08:48] <raven> xtre_: i made a typo boo boo. Sudo apt-get install apt-show-versions
[08:48] <raven> with an S, not just version
[08:48] <raven> If you dont NEED that software, then you could just do an apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:49] <xtre_> doing apt-get update now ..
[08:50] <raven> did apt-show-versions install fine
[08:50] <raven> ?
[08:50] <xtre_> raven, when i was installing apt-show-versions gave an error, so now updating with apt-get update.
[08:51] <raven> If your update works fine, then maybe dont install apt-show-versions unless you NEED it
[08:51] <xtre_> raven, ok
[08:51] <raven> I dont have it installed, and its not crucial, apparently its a known bug.
[08:52] <xtre_> raven, hoping this just works out
[08:53] <raven> okay, i'll be back in a few minutes :) Lemme know how it goes
[08:54] <xtre_> raven, sure :) thanks for all this guidance :)
[09:07] <raven> xtre_: how did it go ?
[09:11] <linuxthefish> why no spellcheck in LibreOffice?
[09:11] <linuxthefish> i can type random stuff and it says no spelling or grammer errors...
[09:11] <xtre_> raven, still it is updating..!!
[09:11] <xtre_> stil showing me 5 min to go..
[09:12] <raven> xtre_: is there any other errors?
[09:12] <xtre_> raven, luckily i have not got any errors till now.
[09:12] <vnc786> linuxthefish: it is there ..
[09:12] <xtre_> but this is for the first time the update is taking this much time.
[09:12] <raven> Okay, let it go for a bit. it i saing "Waiting on something"
[09:12] <raven> ?
[09:12] <raven> what was the last line say ?
[09:13] <linuxthefish> vnc786: Bizzinessses is a word? O.o
[09:13] <linuxthefish> does Office 2013 run well in Wine?
[09:13] <xtre_> raven, Get:9 http://archive.ubuntu.com raring/universe i386 Packages [5,405 kB]
[09:13] <bekks> There is no guarantee that a spellcheck will work correctly.
[09:14] <raven> Okay, so its a slow mirror., let it update :)
[09:14] <xtre_> raven, ok :)
[09:14] <raven> xtre_ :if it takes more than 5 minutes, go to the Software Sources and choose a Server that is close to you.
[09:14] <xtre_> raven, ok waiting for 5 mint now.
[09:14] <raven> okay, try another mirror
[09:14] <raven> cancle the update
[09:14] <raven> and then try another mirror
[09:15] <xtre_> raven, ok
[09:16] <vnc786> linuxthefish: Bizzinessses ? do you mean business
[09:16] <linuxthefish> yeah, I'll try OpenOffice :p
[09:18] <raven> Can anyone recommend a recent alternative to SKype that works well on Ubuntu?
[09:19] <xtre_> raven, have you heared about jitsi ?
[09:19] <raven> Ive heard about it, never used it though. Is it good?
[09:20] <xtre_> heard*
[09:20] <electricprism> how do I change my resolution in mir?
[09:20] <xtre_> raven,  not that bad.
[09:20] <raven> is it cross platform? or only linux?
[09:21] <xtre_> raven, cross platform.
[09:21] <xtre_> one of the best alternate to skype.
[09:21] <raven> I see, im gonna give it a go :)
[09:23] <xtre_> raven,  :)
[09:26] <SwashBuckla> Hi there, I have a 4th Generation iPod shuffle, which is not currently supported in GtkPod (see http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Supported+iPods#ShuffleFourth). How do I put music onto it?
[09:26] <SwashBuckla> I don't have Windows or Mac
[09:27] <raven> The only software that i know of that is decent is GtkPod but since that doesnt work, im honestly not too sure. Have you tried Rythembox?
[09:32] <pippo> ciao
[09:32] <xtre_> raven, still the update is going on..
[09:33] <pippo> !lista
[09:34] <xtre_> pippo, done :)
[09:34] <xtre_> sorry pippo not for you.
[09:34] <xtre_> raven, now errors while updating :)
[09:34] <raven> xtre_ no errors? Works fine?
[09:35] <xtre_> raven, no errors while updating :)
[09:35] <raven> xtre_ sweet! :) we fixed it haha
[09:35] <xtre_> raven, you fixed it :D
[09:35] <xtre_> i was just following your instructions
[09:36] <raven> xtre_ the way that i do things is as follows: 1. Is it required for normal use of the OS?, No? THEN WIPE THAT SHIZZ OUT
[09:36] <raven> :P
[09:36] <raven> So removing it was the logical option.
[09:36] <xtre_> raven, he he he
[09:37] <xtre_> raven, but while downloading packages i am getting error
[09:37] <xtre_> Errors were encountered while processing: man-db
[09:37] <raven> what package were you downloading?
[09:37] <xtre_> raven, just for testing purpose i was installing ntp
[09:38] <xtre_> should i reinstall ?
[09:38] <bekks> xtre_: Do oyu use Windows? If not, you dont need to reinstall.
[09:38] <xtre_> bekks, never
[09:38] <xtre_> i only have linux on my machine
[09:38] <mamed> how to revert from nemo to nautilus
[09:39] <bekks> xtre_: So you dont need behave like being on windows ;)
[09:39] <xtre_> bekks, ok :)
[09:39] <bekks> xtre_: Pastebin the entire output of "apt-get install ntp"
[09:39] <mamed> ah i did i think
[09:39] <mamed> my problem wasdesktop icons and they came
[09:40] <raven> xtre_: first think i do if i get package errors is run: sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get autoremove. Sometimes there are conflicting, or missing packages.
[09:40] <bekks> Running sudo apt-get autoremove when having install problems is a bad idea.
[09:41] <SwashBuckla> Hi there, I have a 4th Generation iPod shuffle, which is not currently supported in GtkPod (see http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Supported+iPods#ShuffleFourth). How do I put music onto it? I don't have Windows or Mac
[09:41] <raven> bekks : explain? I never have an issue when doing it?
[09:43] <bekks> raven: When deps where installed because the failing package needs them, autoremove will uninstall the needed deps again. So the next install run will have to install them again.
[09:43] <xtre_> prob solved removed man-db and now no errors.
[09:43] <bekks> raven: And thats just not necessary.
[09:43] <bekks> xtre_: You did not solve the problem ;)
[09:43] <xtre_> bekks, still what i have to do ?
[09:43] <raven> bekks : oh yes, i understand. What i meant was, once you install software, if there are packages it no longer needs, use autoremove.
[09:43] <bekks> xtre_: You just uninstalled some software showing an artefact.
[09:44] <bekks> xtre_: Now, since you uninstalled it, we cant tell you anymore.
[09:44] <xtre_> installing back again
[09:45] <bekks> xtre_: Its to late now.
[09:46] <bekks> xtre_: I asked you to pastebin something, which you didnt.
[09:46] <xtre_> bekks, sorry for that.
[09:46] <xtre_> i though i can research myself and solve the prob but apparently i didn't :D
[09:47] <xtre_> bekks, should i paste the error ?
[09:48] <raven> xtre_ yes, paste the error :)
[09:50] <xtre_> raven, thanks :)
[09:50] <xtre_> http://bpaste.net/show/KUlqF2Rzx3Om6DO0yc61/
[09:50] <xtre_> this was when i was installing man-db
[09:51] <xtre_> this error when i was install ntp after installing man-db http://bpaste.net/show/uAkRjlHFLOUglQLFyRzf/
[09:51] <raven> run, okay sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[09:51] <raven> and let me know what happens
[09:51] <xtre_> ok doing it.
[09:52] <unknown101> !skype
[09:54] <raven> if that command does not work xtre_, try running : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -a
[09:54] <xtre_> ok
[09:55] <xtre_> till now everything is going well.
[09:55] <xtre_> it seems that there is a prob with the man-db package.
[09:56] <raven> evne when running the dpkg-reconfigure?
[09:57] <crocket> hi
[09:57] <cfhowlett> crocket, greetings
[09:58] <xtre_> raven, sudo apt-get safe-upgrade, i am getting E: invalid operation safe-upgrade not found.
[09:58] <raven> damn, hmmm
[09:58] <raven> okay
[09:58] <raven> attempt this : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -a
[09:59] <xtre_> got errors straight away..
[10:00] <xtre_> pasting the errors.
[10:00] <xtre_>  http://bpaste.net/show/d0wbEOUxCZVoegKk8X2e/
[10:01] <pippo> ciao
[10:01] <unknown101> Where i can find ubuntu's "Temp foler" ?
[10:01] <pippo> !lista
[10:01] <bekks> unknown101: /tmp
[10:01] <unknown101> ty
[10:03] <unknown101> what is pulse-PKdhtXMmr18n and why is locked
[10:04] <bekks> unknown101: A temporary file.
[10:04] <bekks> unknown101: How do you know it is locked?
[10:05] <raven> xtre_ I honestly have no idea unfortunately
[10:05] <raven> Re-installing it,and re-configuring it should be woring fine
[10:05] <unknown101> bekks give me 1 sec i'll show you how i know
[10:05] <xtre_> raven, np mate :) thanks for all you help :)
[10:05] <unknown101> thats why
[10:05] <xtre_> bekks, if you can guide me  ?
[10:05] <unknown101> http://s12.postimg.org/5e4y5j8yx/Screenshot_from_2013_09_14_13_05_03.png
[10:05] <raven> xtre_ i'll keep looking though, got a friend coming online here who is going to have a look too
[10:06] <xtre_> raven, i would be really thankfull to you :)
[10:06] <raven> those files are just temp files. if you are REALLY wanting to get rid of it, run gksu nautilus, browse to the folder, and remove
[10:06] <xtre_> till the time being should i remove man-db ?
[10:06] <raven> but i wouldnt remove it i was you
[10:07] <raven> Welcome Deareth. As you can see xtre_ is having issues with Man-DB. Accidentally removed it, and now everything is fubaring
[10:08] <raven> so xtre_ first off. You removed man-db using sudo apt-get remove man-db correct?
[10:08] <xtre_> raven, yeah correct
[10:09] <raven> To my knowledge, Linux should have thrown up a hissy fit when you did that
[10:10] <raven> xtre_ can you attempt to install a completely different package please?
[10:10] <raven> and let us know if you get same errors
[10:10] <Daereth> apt-get purge man-db then try reinstalling?
[10:10] <raven> yeah good point, purge the shizz out of it
[10:10] <raven> xtre_ , run this command in terminal : sudo apt-get purge man-db && sudo apt-get install man-db
[10:11] <alfatihmh> hi all
[10:11] <xtre_> raven, still the same error persist
[10:11] <cfhowlett> alfatihmh, greetings
[10:12] <alfatihmh> guys how i can install msf in my ubuntu
[10:12] <aw> hi
[10:12] <alfatihmh> hi
[10:13] <xtre_> raven,  installing different version of the same package.
[10:13] <raven> xtre_ okay, let me know how it goes
[10:13] <raven> alfatihmh, what do yu mean by msf?
[10:18] <xtre_> raven, its a bug
[10:18] <xtre_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/man-db/+bug/1196327
[10:19] <raven> Thought so, wasnt sure if that was the latest or not.
[10:24] <LrdArc> for some reason i can't connect to wifi that has authenticated proxy
[10:25] <raven> LrdArc , Linux Version, Model of WIFI Card, Kernel version.
[10:28] <LrdArc> ubuntu 13.04, how can i check wifi card?
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> !wifi
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> lspci should show the chipset/make and info
[10:32] <LrdArc> 01:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 5100
[10:32] <LrdArc> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet (rev c0)
[10:33] <raven> is it just not detecting the network?
[10:33] <LrdArc> this is the last log of dmesg when trying to connect http://pastebin.com/yC2xeNZ1
[10:33] <LrdArc> it's detected but can't connect
[10:33] <LrdArc> this is something like university wifi, it uses proxy to connect
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> seems that chipset uses the iwlwifi drivers.
[10:34] <lepine> Would there be a better channel for questions about ecryptfs? I have a couple questions after a partial hard-drive crash ...
[10:36] <raven> LrdArc : Ths is a page about updating the firmware drivers for Linux for that card, seems to work better :http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/intel-wifi-link-5100-cannot-work-on-linux-678588/
[10:36] <Walex> lepine: the answer is "backups" :-)
[10:36] <raven> Please see the very last post
[10:36] <lepine> Eg, I'm rsync'ing all of /home/.ecryptfs off the drive. I seem to have the login-wrapped passphrase intact
[10:36] <raven> lepine, what exactly is the problem?
[10:37] <raven> lrdArc what kernel are you running?
[10:37] <lepine> Well, from what I see, and what I read, it seems that it just encrypts the files and stores the cyphertext transparently on the underlying, say, ext4 partition
[10:37] <LrdArc> it's 3.8.0-27-generic
[10:37] <raven> Okay, latest Kernel. hmm
[10:37] <raven> I know there was an issue in the 3.6 kernel with Wifi5000 cards that caused it to not authenticate
[10:38] <raven> is it a Wireless N access point?
[10:38] <raven> If you by any change know
[10:38] <raven> cance **
[10:38] <lepine> every file in .ecryptfs/user/... with a weird name (encrypted) corresponds to one file
[10:38] <lepine> So, essentially, all the files I manage to copy off the drive are salvageabe
[10:39] <lepine> Walex: I do have a backup, but from last week :-/
[10:39] <LrdArc> what do you mean by "wireless N"?
[10:41] <raven> LrdArc well there is currently a bug in iwlwifi that causes huge amounts of latency and errors when connectiong to Wireless N (802.11n) access points.
[10:41] <raven> Im tinking that this (currently unsolved) issue may be affecting you to, just in a different way
[10:44] <LrdArc> so currently there's no solution to fixed it? :'(
[10:45] <linu> hi i try download youtube videos, i have used youtube-dl,but it not worked,i got the below error while downloading video ayoutube-dl  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o65X97CpZU[youtube] Setting language WARNING: unable to set language: [youtube] 6o65X97CpZU: Downloading video webpageERROR: unable to download video webpage: can you tell  me what is that issues
[10:49] <jrib> linu: you could try a more recent version of youtube-dl
[10:49] <loin> hi guys, i can't play a dvd i just purchased, can i get some help on this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6105633/
[10:49] <jrib> !dvd | loin
[10:50] <loin> jrib, can i just rip the movie off the dvd and remove the libraries afterwards?
[10:50] <jrib> loin: I guess, but why would you do that?
[10:50] <loin> jrib, so i don't risk scratching my dvd ?
[10:51] <jrib> loin: I mean why would you remove the libraries?
[10:51] <loin> jrib, i guess there's a reason they weren't added in by default, right?
[10:51] <jrib> loin: sure?
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> loin:  look on the dvd packgeing see if theres some mention of anti-copying stuff logo looks like 2 magnets i recall.
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> I definatly HAVE seen newer copy protected DVD movies that i could not p-lay on my linux pc or in windows. Or even on an older dvd player
[10:52] <loin> Dr_Willis, you mean the "this dvd is copy protected"?
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> I had to resort to using DVD Fab to rip them
[10:52] <jrib> he doesn't have css
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> css would be needed also. ;)
[10:53] <loin> should i just return the dvd ?
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> Theres new protection out that goes beyone CSS.
[10:53] <jrib> loin: why don't you install the packages ubottu told you about and tryingplaying it?
[10:53] <loin> jrib, well i want to rip it to play it on all my devices
[10:53] <loin> not just my laptop
[10:53] <jrib> loin: that's fine.  After you see that you can play it, you can rip it.
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> if its not got that super-protection - you can rip it.
[10:53] <lepine> raven: Can you confirm my suspiscion? Provided I have the passphrase(s), if rsync manages to copy it off my drive, the file is salvageable ...
[10:53] <jrib> first step is to see if you can play it...
[10:54] <raven> lepine :Yes, in a sense
[10:54] <loin> jrib, is this the whole drm thing everyone's talking about?
[10:54] <raven> you COULD get the files back if you could de-crypt each one with a passphrase
[10:54] <raven> maybe set up a script to go through and do it all, depending on the size of the files
[10:54] <jrib> loin: this is one instance of drm I suppose;  I don't know if anyone still talks about it
[10:54] <raven> Personally ive never had it happen to me, and i use TrueCrypt
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> loin:  theres several kinds of DRM on dvd's
[10:55] <linu> jrib ya i will try
[10:55] <slick0_> several?
[10:55] <lepine> ah, I was thinking copy everything I can, which will be 90% of it, I presume, and could still manage to mount the thing
[10:55] <loin> dr
[10:55] <loin> Dr_Willis, this is my first dvd i ever bought
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> slick0_:  yes.. the trend is going past just the old DecSS stuff
[10:55] <slick0_> Direct Rendering Modules?
[10:55] <loin> and if things go this way it'll most likely be the last one, why are they doing this to paying customer?
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> slick0_:  guess again
[10:56] <xtre_> is it a good idea to have samba , nfs using authentication kerberos and LDAP on ubuntu desktop edition ? or i should go for ubuntu server ?
[10:56] <jrib> xtre_: nothing wrong with that
[10:56] <slick0_> you just need to make an image of the Bray
[10:56] <slick0_> and mount it
[10:56] <jrib> xtre_: if you don't use the desktop then you're wasting some resources by running the gui; that's all
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> slick0_:  i definatly havd DVD movies that  do not work that way
[10:57] <xtre_> jrib, ok :)
[10:57] <slick0_> thats because you are using windows N
[11:01] <slick0_> anyone using OS$?
[11:01] <slick0_> OS4
[11:02] <bekks> Whats that?
[11:03] <slick0_> were can i get a good ransom nick generator?
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> slick0_  try to stick to one nick, or you'll confuse people
[11:07] <slick0_> im just looking to rampp ss n my channels
[11:08] <slick0_> i want to make it look like my channnel is crowded
[11:09] <slick0_> ive allready devised several characters to make to chat to each other at semi random intervals
[11:09] <carlogeaclaudiu> Hi guys! I have an Asus Vivobook s500, it has a touchscreen (touchscreen laptop) and I am running saucy. How can I get the touchscreen to work?
[11:09] <carlogeaclaudiu> It works as a touchpad now
[11:10] <steinpf> exit
[11:10] <patagonicus> Hi there. I'm on Ubuntu 13.04 and I had to kill steam when Fez hung. Now when I start steam I only get this and a process sitting idle: https://gist.github.com/Patagonicus/06b83d04a1ba8453e626
[11:17] <euryale> Hi guys!
[11:17] <euryale> Do i need to install nVidia drivers for ubuntu?
[11:18] <euryale> My current graphics driver is Gallium 0.4 on NVE7.
[11:21] <sam_h> hi all, I hve a question about ubuntu-vm-builder, anyone use it?
[11:21] <euryale> Do i need to install nVidia drivers for ubuntu?
[11:21] <euryale> My current graphics driver is Gallium 0.4 on NVE7.
[11:21] <sam_h> essentially, it creates a directory to build the VM in, but fails when it tries to chroot into it
[11:22] <blazemore> sam_h, Are you getting any sort of error message?
[11:23] <sam_h> blazemore - I'll rerun to get you a full log (will take 5 min). In the mean time, it's falling over when it runs this:
[11:23] <sam_h> chroot /tmp/tmpaagZ5J mount -t proc proc /proc
[11:24] <blazemore> sam_h, OK that's fine, just put the full error output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:27] <linuxthefish> can anyone ping box2.linuxthefish.net please? :D
[11:27] <linuxthefish> it's down for me...
[11:27] <sam_h> euryale: Gallium 0.4 essentially means you are using the opensource stack for nvidia. Nvidia do a proprietary closed source driver, which has some extra features but is considered less stable
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> linuxthefish  yes, redirected
[11:28] <linuxthefish> thanks, my stupid college blocks any SSH connections i make after a few days...
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> linuxthefish  http://downorisitjustme.com/
[11:28] <linuxthefish> no webserver xD
[11:28] <bekks> sam_h: Since when nvidia ever uses gallium? ATI used to use gallium.
[11:30] <sam_h> bekks: I'm pretty sure that noveau uses gallium, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallium3D
[11:30] <linu> jrib it shows the same issue even i have tried with latest version
[11:31] <jrib> linu: don't know then
[11:31] <bekks> sam_h: Ah, so nouveau started to use gallium too. A long time ago only ATI used it.
[11:31] <jrib> linu: how did you get the latest version?
[11:31] <WotWhere> need help configuring sendmail http://pastebin.com/pPebQVC0
[11:32] <linu> jrib by follow this doc http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html
[11:32] <jrib> linu: okj
[11:33] <TheHopeBuster> !flood
[11:33] <TheHopeBuster> !help
[11:33] <TheHopeBuster> .help
[11:33] <TheHopeBuster> ?help
[11:33] <TheHopeBuster> flood
[11:33] <gordonjcp> TheHopeBuster: do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[11:33] <TheHopeBuster> No, sorry
[11:35] <euryale> Thanks Sam_H
[11:36] <euryale> I want a smoother experience for the desktop effects, i'm not using Compiz.
[11:37] <euryale> Everytime i use "ctrl + w" it's not smooth as it was when i use ati driver on my ati card.
[11:37] <euryale> I use nvidia card now. so i was thinking if install the driver, it will perform better?
[11:57] <Roberth1990> hello I am installing *ubuntu and when the installer is installing grub to /dev/sda, and this comes up "Grub-install dummy failed", it is an efi system, anybody know the sollution to this?
[11:58] <Roberth1990> the installer crashes after that message and grub was not installed on /dev/sda
[11:58] <Roberth1990> 13.04
[12:00] <sam_h> blazemore: I got that log
[12:00] <sam_h> blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6105884/
[12:01] <yeehi> Virtualbox informs me I will be unable to start VMs. When VB launches, I get the following error message: The vboxdrv kernel module is not loaded. Either there is no module available for the current kernel (3.11.0-gnu) or it failed to load.  I run the following command, but get an error in the logfile: sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup   Makefile:181: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Ma
[12:01] <yeehi> ke again.  Stop.
[12:01] <pippo> iabadabadu ciao
[12:01] <pippo> !lista
[12:01] <bekks> yeehi: Read the manual on the prerequisites for installing the kernel driver.
[12:01] <bekks> yeehi: the vbox manual.
[12:03] <yeehi> thanks, bekks
[12:04] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:05] <Karmahacker> hi guys could  anyone please advice how to set up an VPN server on ubuntu 12.04  ?
[12:05] <cfhowlett> !vpn
[12:05] <cfhowlett> Karmahacker, also you might ask in #ubuntu-server
[12:06] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:09] <pippo> !lista
[12:10] <sam_h> Karmahacker: that wiki link you got sent seems to be for setting up a VPN client
[12:10] <Karmahacker> i need an server
[12:10] <sam_h> Karmahacker: I set up a VPN server a while ago based on some notes online. will find them.
[12:10] <elfer> ya there are alot of vpn server howto's on google
[12:12] <bekks> And one is linked in the VPN article above.
[12:12] <c0nfusedLubunter> Is someone here and able to help me out? :)
[12:12] <bekks> !anyone | c0nfusedLubunter
[12:12] <cfhowlett> !askc0nfusedLubunter,
[12:13] <cfhowlett> !ask|c0nfusedLubunter,
[12:13] <crocket> If I move the mouse cursor in VLC fullscreen mode, VLC control appears, and so does unity for a short time.
[12:14] <Roberth1990> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=c1K5RJdM why am I getting this? either if I have mount my efi parition /dev/sda1 on /boot or /boot/efi?
[12:14] <crocket> How do I suppress unity from showing over VLC in fullscreen mode?
[12:14] <Karmahacker> sam_h  thanks!     elfer:  yes there is many but which one to chosose )))
[12:14] <crocket> I could turn off compositing in fullscreen mode in KWin. Is there a similar option in unity?
[12:14] <sam_h> Karmahacker: I think this was it, essentially the guy is using openVPN to create a 'coffee shop proof' tunnel from his computer to a server. If you wanted to do more of a private network thing you'd need to mod http://nikinuryadin.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/step-by-step-setting-up-openvpn-in-debian-with-routing-tun-connection/
[12:14] <sam_h> Karmahacker: that said, I have no idea if this is the best way to do such a setup
[12:15] <c0nfusedLubunter> Okay here comes the question: I am using Lubuntu 13.04. I want to know if there's a way to move the whole "Application Launcher Bar" as a whole entity? The whole "thing" is now on the right side of the task bar, and i want to move it to the left, and i want it to be positioned next to the Lubuntu start menu, where all the programs are. Is this possible?
[12:15] <sam_h> openvpn seemed to be the most popular
[12:15] <Karmahacker> Thank you Sam_h   Thank you Guys  youre the best!! ))
[12:16] <human39> Hi all.  I want to remap a key on my keyboard to <Super> and I have no clue what it is.  Is there an app that will tell me?
[12:17] <sam_h> Karmahacker: I'd say it was a bit tricky. Also, those notes are for debian, although there shouldn't be too much difference. thank us when it works.
[12:17] <sam_h> Karmahacker: I think there is room in the world for a pre-packaged, easy to set up VPN
[12:18] <sam_h> Karmahacker: like iRedMail except for vpns
[12:18] <Karmahacker> Thanks for advice !
[12:19] <c0nfusedLubunter> !patience
[12:19] <c0nfusedLubunter> Okay here comes the question: I am using Lubuntu 13.04. I want to know if there's a way to move the whole "Application Launcher Bar" as a whole entity? The whole "thing" is now on the right side of the task bar, and i want to move it to the left, and i want it to be positioned next to the Lubuntu start menu, where all the programs are. Is this possible?
[12:20] <bekks> c0nfusedLubunter: Be patient and dont repeat too quickly.
[12:20] <sam_h> c0nfusedLubunter: it might be that no one here at the moment uses Lubuntu, so they don't know / can't try it out :-(
[12:23] <crocket> How do I turn off compositing in unity in fullscreen mode?
[12:25] <LyzardKing_> c0nfusedLubunter: I'm not using lubuntu at the moment, but I think that rearranging items is not something that can be done with lxpanel. I installed lxpanelx to solve that problem(keep in mind that I haven't used lxde since ubuntu 12.10)
[12:26] <c0nfusedLubunter> So that means that if they've set up the "App Launch Bar" to be on the right, it WILL remain on the right :)
[12:27] <c0nfusedLubunter> unless i'm good with coding, so i could sort it out my way :)))
[12:30] <natalie> hello
[12:31] <natalie> can u help me with one ''simple'' thing? :/
[12:31] <c0nfusedLubunter> Anyone knows how am i able to open a folder in GUI? I mean, which command should i use, while i am in a certain path in terminal, let's say /home/user/Downloads, and i want to open the Downloads Folder with GUI, so i could search "visually" through the contents of that folder?
[12:31] <cariveri> hi. how do I setup the session to startup from the terminal?
[12:32] <LyzardKing_> c0nfusedLubunter: if you have pcmanfm you can type: "pcmanfm ."
[12:32] <natalie> I need a help... please :)
[12:33] <c0nfusedLubunter> Works like a charm, thanks a lot! :)
[12:33] <crocket> How do I turn off compositing in unity?
[12:33] <bekks> natalie: With what?
[12:34] <natalie> bekks im attempting to put chat from website into IRC. But I need some simple ''step by step'' instructions as I am not really conversant with linux :p
[12:35] <bekks> natalie: What do you mean by "put chat from website into IRC"?
[12:36] <krux> thinking irc server running on a web browser and connect to it using and irc client instead of the browser ?..
[12:36] <natalie> bekks to browse chat from website on IRC instead of going to website :/
[12:36] <bekks> natalie: You want to implement a webchat?
[12:36] <c0nfusedLubunter> The more i use Linux, the more i realize why it's better than Windows :D
[12:36] <bekks> natalie: Thast not related to ubuntu then.
[12:37] <natalie> :/
[12:37] <natalie> I hate you :|
[12:37] <bekks> natalie: Thats your problem then, not mine.
[12:41] <BluesKaj> bekks, you could have mentioned mibbit :)
[12:42] <bekks> BluesKaj: Even freenode doesnt like webchats, so thats a bad idea ;)
[12:43] <BluesKaj> bekks, didn't know that ...never liked them anyway
[12:43] <bekks> BluesKaj: Me neither..
[12:43] <Fuchs> bekks: freenode has nothing against webchats in general
[12:44] <Fuchs> mibbit is blocked for reasons mentioned on the blog.
[12:44] <bekks> Fuchs: ah :)
[12:44] <cekee029> someone gets post-script error installing samba?
[12:44] <cekee029> In my xubuntu does
[12:45] <usr13> cekee029: How did you install samba?
[12:45] <cekee029> apt-get install samba
[12:45] <usr13> cekee029: So, what error do you get?
[12:46] <usr13> cekee029: *exactly*
[12:46] <usr13> cekee029: The result of the command "sudo apt-get install samba".
[12:47] <usr13> !paste
[12:49] <cekee029> wtf is netbios  name
[12:50] <bekks> cekee029: A Windows networking setting.
[12:50] <usr13> cekee029: Do you have a support question related to Ubuntu?
[12:51] <viktor> is there a support channel for wine?
[12:51] <bastidrazor> #winehq viktor
[12:51] <viktor> bastidrazor, thnks
[12:51] <cekee029> It's strange, I only installed xubuntu on my laptop
[12:52] <cekee029> I sent the error on the bug page, guess im not the only one
[12:53] <cekee029> could be a distro error of 13.04?
[12:53] <bekks> cekee029: Show us the error please.
[12:55] <cekee029> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4/+bug/1193987
[12:56] <cekee029> ERROR(<class 'samba.provision.InvalidNetbiosName'>): uncaught exception - The name ''Mylaptopname' is not a valid NetBIOS name
[12:56] <cekee029>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/samba/netcmd/__init__.py", line 175, in _run
[12:56] <cekee029>     return self.run(*args, **kwargs)
[12:56] <cekee029>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/samba/netcmd/domain.py", line 398, in run
[12:56] <cekee029>     use_rfc2307=use_rfc2307, skip_sysvolacl=False)
[12:56] <cekee029>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/samba/provision/__init__.py", line 1892, in provision
[12:56] <FloodBot1> cekee029: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:56] <bekks> cekee029: Run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin the exact, full output.
[13:00] <inroel> hello everyone! seems that my whole file system suddenly became read-only. I cannot delete files, with read-only warning. and folders began to be shown with the lock symbol on them.
[13:00] <inroel> test
[13:00] <BluesKaj> inroel, yes we see your post
[13:01] <hacyard> hello everyone!
[13:01] <hacyard> hello everyone! seems that my whole file system suddenly became read-only. I cannot delete files, with read-only warning. and folders began to be shown with the lock symbol on them.
[13:01] <belljar>  hello everyone! seems that my whole file system suddenly became read-only. I cannot delete files, with read-only warning. and folders began to be shown with the lock symbol on them.
[13:02] <bekks> belljar: Then take a look at "dmesg".
[13:02] <belljar> bekks, what am I to do with it?
[13:03] <belljar> even when I do "gksudo nautilus" the reply is "read-only file system"
[13:05] <honestly> belljar: dmesg would tell you if your kernel / fs driver remounted your fs as readonly
[13:05] <honestly> and possibly why
[13:06] <belljar> bekks, entering dmesg on command line returned a long black space on the terminal first, then came these lines : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6106105/
[13:06] <cekee029> http://pastebin.com/yTGmDiKr
[13:06] <belljar> honestly, I just posted dmesg result
[13:06] <honestly> belljar: you're fscked
[13:07] <belljar> honestly, as I wrote above, "gksudo nautilus" says already "read only file system"
[13:07] <geirha> belljar: Looks like your harddrive might be failing
[13:07] <slick0_> you should have used reiserfs
[13:08] <belljar> honestly: in my very limited fsck experience from before, I am not advanced enough to handle any problems with it. geirha: I cant make the connection with hw failing and files becoming read-only (sorry:))
[13:08] <lapt0p> How could i disable my laptop's built-in Wi-Fi card, and use the USB Wireless Card instead?
[13:08] <honestly> belljar: turn off your computer, grab a backup drive, boot from a live disc / live usb, and start data recovery
[13:09] <slick0_> its an SSD
[13:09] <geirha> belljar: The kernel detected an error when accessing the harddrive, so it remounted the fs in read/only mode to avoid additional damage
[13:09] <cekee029> I think its a 13.04 distro problem
[13:09] <mernilio> Hi all!
[13:09] <belljar> geirha: I see, thank you!  honestly: sure I will do that. but could it be that I lost any data already?
[13:09] <honestly> belljar: http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/
[13:09] <cfhowlett> lapt0p, easy fix: hit the wifi hardware switch to disable the builtin wifi.
[13:09] <honestly> belljar: yes it could be
[13:09] <slick0_> you need to make a partition around the bacd blck area
[13:10] <cekee029> I use xcfe due tu xubuntu distro im using
[13:10] <Wiz_KeeD> greetings everyone
[13:10] <Wiz_KeeD> hello ikonia
[13:10] <slick0_> sadlly the bad blocks dont display in gparted
[13:10] <belljar> honestly: meanwhile it seems like this should happen once a year
[13:10] <mernilio> slick0_:  fuck gparted
[13:11] <honestly> slick0_: please stop talking.
[13:11] <slick0_> why?
[13:11] <mernilio> worst partition manager eveeerrrr :-P
[13:11] <belljar> honestly: do I need ddrescue? I tried it earlier, and it really couldnt make it really work.
[13:11] <honestly> there is no such thing as "bad blocks" in an SSD
[13:11] <cfhowlett> !language|mernilio,
[13:11] <slick0_> such agressivity
[13:11] <daftykins> honestly: sure there is
[13:11] <slick0_> in this channel no wonder linux user base is below 1 percent
[13:11] <honestly> belljar: use any data recovery tool you'd like
[13:12] <mernilio> sorry! :-) No profanity or stuff from my side anymore!
[13:12] <lapt0p> cfhowlett: I get a message: Wi-Fi is disabled by hardware switch.
[13:12] <mernilio> I work as a chef, in the kitchen we use bad language all the time.
[13:12] <belljar> honestly: the disk utility says there is 1 bad sector. is it too bad to recover just by  straight copying the files from harddrive via live usb? without any tool?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> lapt0p, right.  now plug in your wifi dongle and see if it detects
[13:12] <slick0_> i usually make a partition on the badblocked area and donr format it so the system never uses that area
[13:12] <honestly> belljar: you can do that
[13:13] <lapt0p> So there are no Wi-Fi networks listed, and both, the built-in Wi-Fi card, and the USB Wi-FI card are grey-ed out, like they are not active.
[13:13] <honestly> daftykins: please tell me more about bad blocks on SSDs and how they're not completely hidden by the SSD firmware
[13:13] <cfhowlett> mernilio, ??? so the rules here don't apply to you?  illogical
[13:13] <slick0_> im talking about HDDs
[13:13] <daftykins> honestly: sure. my intel X25-M G2 developed a bad sector which tripped up the entire OS until i secure erased the drive.
[13:14] <cfhowlett> lapt0p, hardware switch effects only the builtin wifi.  sounds like your card may not be read.  do you know the chipset?
[13:14] <honestly> 15:09:05 < slick0_> its an SSD
[13:14] <mernilio> Towards guy like honestly and slick0_ .. They are att the bottom. With more experience.. they will gain more and more creds!
[13:14] <slick0_> creds?
[13:14] <slick0_> what is a cred?
[13:14] <belljar> honestly, geirha, meanwhile I'm getting sick of this kind of problems. like I said, it happens like once a year lately. are the hard discs so shitty or so sensitive?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> !language|belljar,
[13:15] <belljar> sorry..
[13:15] <mernilio> slick0_: a cred is something  you deserve!
[13:15] <honestly> cfhowlett: seriously?
[13:15] <belljar> just being upset
[13:15] <slick0_> is that comunist?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> belljar, understood.  still ... thanks for understanding
[13:16] <mernilio> With that said, didnt hitlel do good things in germany?
[13:16] <slick0_> a cred is a religion?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> !ops|mernilio,
[13:16] <slick0_> im satanic
[13:16] <slick0_> join my satanic army
[13:16] <lapt0p_> Nope, not working. If i switch on the internal Wi-Fi card, with the physical slider, i get signal from both, the built-in card, and the USB card. But if i slide the physical slider to off, the both cards are "deaf" :D
[13:17] <geirha> belljar: We don't know for certain it's failing, it could just be the cable is bad, or not properly connected
[13:17] <Wiz_KeeD> Could someone please assist in installing an alternative driver for my broadcom wireless card on Ubuntu 12.04 64? At the moment it works if I go to Network and manually select the network but it does not ping and show the wireless networks on startup
[13:17] <mernilio> slick0_: i dont think your a bad person. :-)
[13:17] <BluesKaj> slick0_, you're delusional
[13:17] <cfhowlett> lapt0p_, ow.  ok.  new one on me.  perhaps disable via bios switch and reboot.
[13:17] <slick0_> lol
[13:17] <slick0_> you dont know me
[13:18] <BluesKaj> you watch too much craptv
[13:18] <mernilio> You do however have a bad attidtude.
[13:18] <slick0_> thats cause people piss me off
[13:18] <mernilio> Towards me, your god and mentor!
[13:18] <lapt0p_> I've tried the BIOS disable option at start, but i could not find that option in my BIOS setup menu. I will check again, and come back, thanks anyway :)
[13:18] <the_roots> whats up all
[13:18] <mernilio> hahah :-P
[13:19] <slick0_> what god?
[13:19] <slick0_> theres no gods
[13:19] <jrib> mernilio, slick0_: I have no idea what the scrollback is, but lets move the discussion back to ubuntu *support*.  Keep it civil and family-friendly, please.
[13:19] <the_roots> god is awesome
[13:19] <BluesKaj> ok slick0_ enough
[13:19] <slick0_> yu are the delusional one
[13:19] <mernilio> But this is the ubuntu channel. Sorry Guys! I will shut upp now
[13:19] <Wiz_KeeD> 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[13:19] <jrib> mernilio: thank you
[13:19] <sam_h> so er, anyone here use KVM?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> mernilio, and the driver installed during regular install?
[13:20] <Achi||es> hi
[13:20] <Hodapp> honestly: I'd venture that 'bad blocks' are just as present on SSDs but, below some threshold, and in the same behavior as a spinning disk, they are basically hidden from you.
[13:21] <Achi||es> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS  OR  13.04 ?
[13:21] <Achi||es> which one is stable and which one should i use ?
[13:21] <belljar> honestly: could such things happen due to an external attack?
[13:21] <bjoswald> Achi||es, 12.04 is the most stable.
[13:21] <Hodapp> honestly: Now, what the behavior is when you have surpassed that threshold, I don't know - but SSDs definitely fail, and at that point the exact way they break the abstraction isn't really relevant - the bad blocks have been made apparent.
[13:21] <cfhowlett> Achi||es, 5 years support for LTS ...
[13:21] <Achi||es> is it possible to make it Gnome look ?
[13:22] <honestly> belljar: not likely
[13:22] <daftykins> Achi||es: they're both stable, but 13.04 ends support in January, so stick to the LTS release for it to last longer. it means long term support after all
[13:22] <belljar> honestly; but possible?
[13:22] <Achi||es> why UNITY ? whyyy :/
[13:22] <crocket> How do I turn off compositing in unity?
[13:22] <daftykins> you guys conversation is off topic
[13:22] <the_roots> has anyone tryed to install ub desktop to a phone/
[13:22] <Achi||es> it really sucks
[13:23] <cfhowlett> Achi||es, logout.  choose an alternate desktop environment.   login.  done.
[13:23] <slick0_> a fend of mine tells m ubunt is a confessinal disto
[13:23] <honestly> belljar: sure, in theory someone could hack into your computer, hack into the fs driver, and get the hard drive's firmware to mark bogus bad sectors
[13:23] <jrib> slick0_: how is this related to ubuntu support?
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !ot|slick0_,
[13:23] <Achi||es> cfhowlett ,  there s no gnome anymore
[13:24] <krux> install it ?.
[13:24] <cfhowlett> Achi||es, things change.  try xubuntu/lubuntu/kubuntu ...
[13:24] <Achi||es> they dont support gnome anymore
[13:24] <slick0_> here gnomeuntu
[13:24] <Achi||es> ubuntu is best
[13:24] <honestly> belljar: but that is extremely unlikely, I'd say
[13:24] <belljar> honestly: a new smart test gave 2 bad sectors. when in disk utility only 1 was shown before. if not bogus, then hard disc is dying?
[13:24] <the_roots> i loke unity a little better.  my mom uses it
[13:25] <the_roots> more user friendly
[13:25] <Achi||es> the_roots do u use on touch screen ?
[13:25] <the_roots> na i do not
[13:25] <Achi||es> hmmmm
[13:25] <the_roots> make a big difference/
[13:25] <mateus> .
[13:26] <honestly> belljar: hard drives have "spare sectors". when sectors die, they are marked as bad and a spare sector is used instead. when the bad sectors show up in SMART, I think that means the spare sectors have been exhausted and you shouldn't rely on your hard drive to work anymore.
[13:26] <Achi||es> how old are u the_roots ?
[13:26] <the_roots> 29
[13:26] <honestly> I haven't thought about this in quite some time, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong
[13:27] <lapt0p> I've checked the BIOS Wi-Fi card disable option, but there is not an option to do that. Other ideas, how could i disable the Wi-Fi internal adapter via the Terminal?
[13:27] <belljar> honestly: when I simply use live usb to copy hard drive to another disk, is it from your experience likely that some data will be already lost (given 2 bad sectors)?
[13:27] <Achi||es> ok another question is coming
[13:28] <Achi||es> is it possible to install ubuntu on Windows 8 ?
[13:28] <lapt0p> Yeah, why not, lol
[13:28] <cfhowlett> Achi||es, via wubi, yes
[13:28] <Achi||es> i heard there s no wubi for windows 8
[13:28] <honestly> belljar: yes, and normal copying utilities will fail to copy files that intersect that bad sectors
[13:29] <cfhowlett> Achi||es, misinformation
[13:29] <the_roots> cant u just do ifconfig wlan0 up or down
[13:30] <cfhowlett> @who
[13:30] <Achi||es> cfhowlett , so can u inform me about it ?
[13:30] <belljar> honestly: is there any tool to copy "all" files? or is ddrescue the only tool to do that (else, would testdisk also succeed in doing that?)
[13:30] <cfhowlett> !who
[13:30] <cfhowlett> !wubi|Achi||es,
[13:30] <Achi||es> !wubi
[13:30] <slick0_> has this distro been blessed by the pope?
[13:30] <Achi||es> ?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> Achi||es, it appears the wubi factoid has been retired ...
[13:30] <cfhowlett> oh, there it is.
[13:30] <Achi||es> cfhowlett  ->  Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays.
[13:31] <Achi||es> disappointed..
[13:31] <cfhowlett> Achi||es, ah.  my bad.  you're right, it will not work in win 8.
[13:31] <slick0_> Wubi isnt supported anymore
[13:31] <lapt0p> Microsoft made that with an intention :P
[13:31] <Achi||es> :p
[13:32] <airtonix> lapt0p: wat?
[13:32] <lapt0p> Install it alongside W8
[13:32] <airtonix> ?
[13:32] <lapt0p> :airtonix i was kidding
[13:33] <airtonix> wubi isn't unsupported because of anything microsoft did. While it may be nice to believe that, the reality is that Wubi was terribad to begin with.
[13:33] <lapt0p> Yeah, i know, i just said that without deeply thinking if that's the reason :)
[13:34] <slick0_> can i load linux kernel in uefi mem to be excuted before anythinf else?
[13:34] <lapt0p> And what is a RAID array?
[13:34] <airtonix> slick0_: no idea. are you useing refind ?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> !raid|lapt0p, if you don't know, you probably don't need it ...
[13:34] <slick0_> refind?
[13:34] <belljar> honestly; could I rely on testdisk to recover the whole?
[13:35] <belljar> I mean to copy
[13:35] <airtonix> slick0_: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
[13:35] <airtonix> belljar: considering there are so many things that could be responsible for corruption, maybe, maybe not.
[13:36] <belljar> airtonix, thank you!
[13:36] <lapt0p> I don't agree with the statement that if you don't know something, you don't need it. If you learn the purpose of something, you may use it for your needs, and making your life easier.
[13:36] <airtonix> lapt0p: then perhaps you'd like to investigate btrfs or linux_zfs
[13:37] <slick0_> http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/asus-p5e3-deluxe-mobo-boots-in-five-seconds-with-embedded-linux/
[13:37] <slick0_> i guess they give up on that
[13:39] <belljar> tesdt
[13:41] <Jakey> why can't i find php5-fcgi /usr/lib/cgi-bin/
[13:41] <Jakey> why can't i find php5-fcgi in /usr/lib/cgi-bin/
[13:41] <lapt0p> From what i've read on Wiki, RAID should be a slow entity with it's type of functioning :D
[13:41] <lapt0p> is it?
[13:42] <honestly> belljar: no, testdisk doesn't do that.
[13:43] <slick0_> testdisk can change your drives geometry
[13:43] <belljar> honestly, ddrescue didnt help an inch last time (or I did something missing/wrong), though it ran 3 days day and night..
[13:43] <honestly> belljar: ddrescue doesn't fix your hard drive, it just creates a backup image
[13:44] <bwayne> I'm configuring dnscrypt, yet when I attempt to run with -edns-payload-size=4096 (or 2048 or 1024 or 512) I get "Invalid EDNS payload size". Any insights?
[13:44] <belljar> honestly, yes, I mean that. it created no image.
[13:44] <belljar> or whatever it created wasn't interpretable afterwards
[13:44] <honestly> belljar: please read the documentation for ddrescue
[13:45] <Gamer1990> hello
[13:45] <blazemore> ikonia,
[13:45] <belljar> honestly, I think I wont go into that again. I have a backup from 2 weeks ago, which is not the best, but I will have to risk any losses at copying now
[13:45] <ikonia> blazemore: huh, yes ?
[13:45] <slick0_> sudo photorec imagefilename
[13:46] <slick0_> thats all you need
[13:46] <honestly> belljar: at any rate, you should replace your hard drive
[13:46] <blazemore> just that
[13:46] <BluesKaj> !who | slick0_
[13:46] <slick0_> i was talking to belljar hacker
[13:46] <belljar> honestly; rephrasing my ranting just recently, are hard disks too sensitive or too crappy, that I've had this with 2 different computers in a year
[13:47] <belljar> ?
[13:47] <Gamer1990> i want to know how to access my windows remote desktop from (L)Ubuntu
[13:47] <ikonia> blazemore: did you want me ?
[13:47] <cfhowlett> !samba|Gamer1990,
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !remote
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !vinagre
[13:48] <Gamer1990> huh?
[13:48] <slick0_> a friend of mine tells me linux is just something you toy in a VM
[13:49] <m_k_t_6> Remmina Remote Desktop Client?
[13:49] <Johnny_Linux> slick0_  97% of the worlds fastest computers run it.
[13:49] <slick0_> so maybe my computer isnt fast engugh
[13:49] <ikonia> slick0_: are you actually having a problem ?
[13:50] <cfhowlett> slick0_, problem located between the keyboard and the display?
[13:50] <Gamer1990> apt-get install "?" Remmina Remote Desktop Client ?
[13:50] <slick0_> im never going back to dependecy hell
[13:51] <ikonia> slick0_: are you actually having a problem ?
[13:51] <AlanBell> Gamer1990: it is just sudo apt-get install remmina
[13:51] <slick0_> if i say no will you give me one?
[13:51] <ikonia> slick0_: just tell the truth
[13:52] <slick0_> can you handle the truth?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> he has a problem alright , but it has nothing to do with ubuntu :)
[13:52] <Wiz_KeeD> hello ikonia, nice to see you, saturday not off? :))
[13:52] <ikonia> slick0_: ok - lets make this clear, this channel is for ubuntu support, so unless you have something you need help with to do with ubuntu, or can help someone else, please stop the comments
[13:52] <slick0_> im help felow ubuntu users
[13:53] <rajat> how can i connect my c code from geany to ui in glade
[13:53] <ikonia> slick0_: ok, then help them, without the other comments please
[13:53] <Gamer1990> i'm running Vinagre
[13:53] <Gamer1990> my address for the system is 192.168.2.11
[13:54] <Gamer1990> i believe the port is 3389
[13:54] <wl> 大家好啊
[13:54] <cfhowlett> Gamer1990, for vinagre, you must be on the same network ... I don't know details beyond that
[13:54] <cfhowlett> !cn|wl,
[13:54] <Gamer1990> english wl?
[13:54] <Gamer1990> i am
[13:55] <wl> 有没有中国人？
[13:55] <slick0_> ballsdeep?
[13:55] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, i'm continuing my research for the drivers of the wireless card, aparently from the range of broadcom drivers the one I have installed is the only one that supports my card
[13:55] <AlanBell> Gamer1990: port is more normally 5900 or 5901
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !ops|slick0_,
[13:55] <Gamer1990> i don't run VNC
[13:56] <wl> anbody is chinese?
[13:56] <AlanBell> Gamer1990: if you are running vinagre, then you are :)
[13:56] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: that doesn't surprise me, as they are quite fussy in terms of driver version + firmware + supported card
[13:56] <Gamer1990> my server isn't though
[13:56] <Wiz_KeeD> AlanBell, nice to see you! :)
[13:56] <m_k_t_6> Gamer1990: If you're connecting Windows Remote Desktop, then port is 3389
[13:57] <AlanBell> hi Wiz_KeeD :)
[13:57] <Gamer1990> my server that i'm trying to is a windows server os
[13:57] <AlanBell> ok, so it will be running RDP perhaps, if that service is active
[13:57] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, I will do some more research and whenever I get a lead I will come check with you guys here is you can spare a few minutes
[13:57] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: people will always spare time, more so if you are helping yourself
[13:58] <antar> why is gwibber not working ?
[13:58] <Gamer1990> !ops |Gamer1990
[13:59] <antar> guys why is gwibber not working
[13:59] <lapt0p> Can someone recommend me a book for Linux Basics? Book which will give me a good general image of the key elements of the OS.
[14:00] <Monday> how do you setup internet passthrough?
[14:00] <AlanBell> lapt0p: there is the ubuntu manual project which is quite good http://ubuntu-manual.org/ it is written in book form
[14:00] <BluesKaj> Monday, how do you mean internet passthrough?
[14:00] <lapt0p> Thanks :)
[14:01] <ikonia> .
[14:01] <antar> ikonia
[14:02] <ikonia> antar: yes ?
[14:02] <Monday> BluesKaj i'm trying to make my phone connect to the internet via the computer
[14:02] <ikonia> !ics  Monday
[14:02] <ikonia> oops,
[14:02] <ikonia> !ics | Monday
[14:02] <antar> ikonia, why is gwibber not working ?
[14:02] <ikonia> antar: I have no idea.
[14:04] <antar> ikonia, heh default package and not working where is the power of open source here ?
[14:04] <Monday> ikonia is it possible to create a hotspot if the computer just has 1 wifi adapter?
[14:04] <Wiz_KeeD> If I do bzr branch lp:x dir bzr branch lp:y dir2 bzr branch lp:z dir 3 with && between will they be runned one after another?
[14:04] <ikonia> antar: depends what the actual problem is
[14:04] <ikonia> Monday: sure
[14:04] <antar> ikonia, a programming problem :).
[14:04] <Monday> is there a turtorial for that?
[14:05] <ikonia> antar: you don't know that
[14:05] <AlanBell> !details | antar
[14:05] <ikonia> antar: try explaining the problem to the channel
[14:05] <ikonia> antar: get a better description of the issue beyond "it's not working"
[14:07] <zexcriz> is it very complicated thing to have LDAP and kerberos together as an authentication system ?
[14:07] <antar> ikonia, it is a real bug on ubuntu and not a personal problem there is nobody using gwibber now
[14:07] <ikonia> antar: is there a bug logged ?
[14:07] <antar> Yeah
[14:07] <ikonia> antar: and it seems odd that you can know no-one is using it.
[14:08] <ikonia> antar: ok, so if you know there is a bug, why are you asking me what's wrong ?
[14:08] <dre_> hey guys
[14:08] <AlanBell> antar: it is now called the friends app, and not gwibber, maybe that is why nobody uses gwibber. I am currently using friends.
[14:08] <antar> ikonia, i am asking for redebuging the app :)
[14:09] <antar> AlanBell, is it an alternative
[14:09] <ikonia> antar: there you go, AlanBell has just explained the name for the new version
[14:09] <AlanBell> antar: there is no bug, unless you have a bug number, or some specific details of the problem
[14:09] <Wiz_KeeD> By using bzr banch lp:package dir & bzr banchlp:package 2 dir it created both dirs and aatempted do start all at once
[14:09] <Wiz_KeeD> is that normal?
[14:09] <antar> ikonia, thats not a new version thats a new app
[14:09] <Wiz_KeeD> Shouldn't it wait to finnish execution?
[14:09] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: yes.  & backgrounds the first process
[14:09] <ikonia> antar: the new version of the "tool" then
[14:10] <antar> http://askubuntu.com/questions/227379/gwibber-window-is-blank
[14:10] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: try && if you only want the second command to run if the first one is successful.  Try ; if you want the second one to run after the first one regardless of how the first one exits
[14:10] <antar> thats the problem
[14:10] <ikonia> antar: you know gwibber is broke - you said there is a bug logged, so why are you posting ask ubuntu links ?
[14:10] <antar> it should not be a default package
[14:10] <ikonia> antar: work on the bug
[14:11] <antar> ikonia, ok ok sorry
[14:11] <antar> i will try friends if workingù
[14:11] <cloneG> hello using shift+control+printScreen I get the selection cursor to border select the screenshot area and when I do it makes the snapshot sound but I cant find the snapshots in my system...when I take the snapshot using the menu I can choose the destination folder and I then can find the snapshots taken...why the shortcut is  not working?
[14:11] <antar> -ù
[14:11] <belgianguy> what are the unity tile menus called?
[14:11] <Wiz_KeeD> jrib, so command1 &&; means do after it finishes regardless if it crashed or not?
[14:11] <belgianguy> if you right click on a tile, you get <>
[14:11] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: no.
[14:12] <AlanBell> antar: it isn't a default package, it was rewritten/replaced as "friends"
[14:12] <antar> AlanBell, is it working on 12.10 ??
[14:12] <dre_> one key run a shell script
[14:12] <antar> ok
[14:12] <dre_> can someone help
[14:12] <Eduard_Munteanu> Is there any issue / bug report filed for the official website (www.ubuntu.com) not providing checksums securely? Should I send an email to webmaster@ubuntu.com (but I think those aren't logged publicly)?
[14:12] <Andre_designer> how can i set volume controle from my keyboard in small steps in ubuntu??
[14:12] <ikonia> Eduard_Munteanu: not providing them securely ?
[14:12] <AlanBell> antar: not sure, I am running 13.10, but I think it was fine in 13.04 as well
[14:13] <cloneG> dre_ ctrl+alt+t
[14:13] <Wiz_KeeD> jrib, how do i stop all the procceses once i've started them with & not &&?
[14:13] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: they are provided securely though?
[14:13] <jrib> md5sums are at least
[14:13] <antar> AlanBell, i cant see on the Software center
[14:13] <Eduard_Munteanu> jrib: if you're talking about the wiki page, that's an issue in itself
[14:13] <Wiz_KeeD> brb
[14:13] <ikonia> Eduard_Munteanu: could you explain what you mean a bit clearer please
[14:13] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: google "bash job control".  You can use "kill %JOB_NUMBER".  You can use "jobs" to list running jobs
[14:14] <dre_> any help
[14:14] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: explain?
[14:14] <belgianguy> anyone know what the menus are called in Unity?
[14:14] <AlanBell> antar: ah, looks like friends was introduced in Raring (13.04)
[14:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> ikonia, jrib: www.ubuntu.com has no HTTPS support, so checking hashes is rather useless if you can't verify their authenticity
[14:14] <Andre_designer> how can i set volume controle from my keyboard in smaller steps in ubuntu??
[14:14] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: see the wiki page you just referred to
[14:14] <AlanBell> belgianguy: they are called "menus" and the ones on the right are "indicators"
[14:15] <Eduard_Munteanu> jrib: I know, but shouldn't ubuntu.com provide them officially?
[14:15] <belgianguy> AlanBell: thanks!
[14:15] <karab44> hello
[14:15] <karab44> Can I explore windows filesystem on ubuntu 13.04 by default?
[14:15] <Eduard_Munteanu> I was curious if this has been reported before and what Canonical's answer was.
[14:15] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: well the gpg sig is made available on the releases page
[14:16] <blob4000> hi all! i'm having an issue in Unity where anytime I go to save or open something from my Home folder, the save/open window shows all of my .hidden files in my ~ directory. i don't remember turning this on, but would love to know how to reverse it. thanks!
[14:16] <TommyB> hey guys, can anyone think of a particular reason why a hdd would be showing up under "OS" in home folder but won't show up when i want to install?
[14:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> jrib: yeah, but you still need to verify the key's fingerprint
[14:16] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: you need to establish a web of trust for the gpg key, sure
[14:16] <TommyB> windows installer can't detect the hdd, nor can ubuntu installer
[14:16] <TommyB> but when booting off the CD i can access all of the files
[14:16] <Andre_designer> anyone??
[14:16] <ikonia> TommyB: unsupported raid controller ?
[14:17] <ikonia> TommyB: (random guess with no info)
[14:17] <Eduard_Munteanu> jrib: most users can't do that, making https a better-than-nothing option for bootstrapping that web of trust
[14:17] <TommyB> ikonia: well i do have a hdd/ssd combo where the ssd caches for it... you think that's the reason?
[14:17] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: i don't know what the official stance is.  All I know is that the md5sums are on the wiki served over https if you want to trust your CA and the hashes on the releases website are signed with gpg
[14:17] <BluesKaj> TommyB, is the hdd formatted to any FS ?
[14:17] <AlanBell> Andre_designer: I have 17 steps from zero to full, is that what you have?
[14:17] <TommyB> BluesKaj: NTFS
[14:17] <bwayne> Andre_designer: you could try binding a keyboard shortcut to 'amixer -c 0 set Master 2dB+' or something similar. haven't tried that in ubuntu, though.
[14:17] <ikonia> TommyB: depends how thats setup, but possible, sure
[14:17] <TommyB> it has a windows install on it that stopped booting
[14:18] <TommyB> ikonia: i don't THINK that's it because i even tried loading the drivers directly from the resources CD for the windows install
[14:18] <TommyB> still couldn't recognize it
[14:18] <Andre_designer> try that but doesn't work
[14:18] <TommyB> this is pretty brutal, i REALLY don't want to have to send this in -_-
[14:18] <Andre_designer> but will try again
[14:18] <blob4000> I solved the problem by pressing Ctrl + H, FYI: This was my original question "i'm having an issue in Unity where anytime I go to save or open something from my Home folder, the save/open window shows all of my .hidden files in my ~ directory. i don't remember turning this on, but would love to know how to reverse it. thanks!"
[14:19] <BluesKaj> TommyB, what about a live media partitoner like gparted ?
[14:19] <TommyB> good call, can't believe i didn't try that
[14:19] <lapt0p> What kind of activities am i allowed to do, to contribute to the Ubuntu/Linux community?  :D
[14:19] <AlanBell> Eduard_Munteanu: I don't think https would make a huge amount of difference, it would guard against a man in the middle attack, but wouldn't do anything to prevent someone compromising the box and putting in a different sum, but the GPG key would prevent that
[14:19] <TommyB> BluesKaj: i'll try reformatting with gparted and get back to you
[14:19] <lapt0p> What kind of activities am i allowed to do(*as a beginner), to contribute to the Ubuntu/Linux community?  :D
[14:19] <BluesKaj> TommyB, well have a look at least
[14:19] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: I think I looked once for related bugs and found one related to the fact the md5sums page was editable by everyone.  So if you find that, you can check for related bugs and maybe file one asking about the rationale
[14:20] <Eduard_Munteanu> AlanBell: obviously the checksums should be hosted by a trusted Canonical machine.
[14:20] <ikonia> lapt0p: anything you are capable of
[14:20] <Eduard_Munteanu> Oh, hm.
[14:20] <ikonia> lapt0p: sky is the limit
[14:20] <TommyB> BluesKaj: gparted detected it, had an exclamation point by the OS partition so obviously something was up
[14:20] <lapt0p> :ikonia Some examples, please? I am still kind of new ..
[14:20] <TommyB> deleted the partitions, going to try to reformat now and see if that allows an install
[14:21] <Eduard_Munteanu> AlanBell: yes, it prevents MITMs, but that's the main reason for SSL/TLS. I only need to trust the CA plus Canonical.
[14:21] <AlanBell> Eduard_Munteanu: sure, but I think the GPG key is the thing that guards against the more realistic threat, as well as the esoteric one
[14:21] <BluesKaj> TommyB, ok , looks like there was a problem
[14:21] <ikonia> lapt0p: anything from updating documentation, helping other people, translations, through to fixing bugs and writing new software, anything you are capable of doing
[14:21] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: not the bug i was referring to, but here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/245953 .  Looks like checking ubuntu-website bugs for https or hashes or md5sums might help.  And if nothing there addresses your concerns you can always file a new one
[14:22] <Eduard_Munteanu> AlanBell: yeah, I don't like the CA system either, but for many users it's the only option to trust-on-first-use the CAs and bootstrap their web of trust.
[14:22] <Eduard_Munteanu> jrib: oh, thanks, so there is a bug tracker for www.ubuntu.com
[14:22] <jrib> Eduard_Munteanu: yep
[14:22] <terre_de_ciel> hello ici et a + je fesais juste un essai
[14:23] <TommyB> BluesKaj: but even after that, deleted the partitions and created a 100GB ext4 partition which shows as /dev/sda1 or whatever
[14:23] <TommyB> it won't see it in the installer?
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[14:23] <AlanBell> yes, it is a reasonable feature request, however they wouldn't want to serve up isos over https, and there are logistical advantages to serving the hashes and isos together, but do go read the bug and file another if appropriate
[14:24] <bwayne> Andre_designer: have you tried this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/10525/how-can-i-make-the-volume-change-in-smaller-increments  ?
[14:24] <TommyB> wait says unmounted, trying to mount now
[14:24] <TommyB> aaaand it refuses
[14:24] <TommyB> wtf.
[14:24] <Andre_designer> okay i try that!!
[14:24] <Eduard_Munteanu> AlanBell: yeah, serving ISOs won't help much because using 3rd party mirrors is an advantage for users too. They should only serve checksums and/or GPG keys or their fingerprints at the very least.
[14:25] <BluesKaj> TommyB, still have  problem after format to ext ?
[14:25] <TommyB> BluesKaj: it still won't show in the installer
[14:25] <TommyB> and it says unmounted in gparted
[14:25] <TommyB> so i right click it from explorer and click mount, nothing happens
[14:27] <belgianguy> is firefox.desktop maintained by Mozilla?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> TommyB, hmm, bad sector perhaps , but usually there's a notification
[14:27] <TommyB> BluesKaj: well it finally mounted, took forever, lemme see in installer...
[14:28] <TommyB> LOL still doesn't show up
[14:28] <TommyB> what, in the asdlfja;sldkfjdf #$*&#$%R# is up with this
[14:28] <AlanBell> Eduard_Munteanu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[14:28] <AlanBell> Eduard_Munteanu: that is an immutable page, I can't edit it
[14:28] <TommyB> drive mounted, shows as /dev/sda1, 100GB ext2 partition, refuses to install to it
[14:28] <TommyB> going to try to restart because i'm running out of ideas
[14:28] <TommyB> brb
[14:29] <Eduard_Munteanu> AlanBell: hm, so it is immutable, I was wondering about that. I'd still file a bug though, they should really host them officially.
[14:30] <AlanBell> Eduard_Munteanu: #acl AdminGroup:read,write,delete,revert,admin All:read         <- first line of the raw text of the page shows it is only editable by the wiki admin
[14:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> Oh, hm.
[14:31] <Monday> BluesKaj i'm trying to make my phone connect to the internet via USB to the computer
[14:32] <AlanBell> Monday: the key phrase you need to search for is "reverse tether"
[14:32] <BluesKaj> Monday, ok , I have no knowledge about that , thought you were trying to connect to the 'net with using network manager
[14:32] <ocooel> O:-)
[14:32] <BluesKaj> without
[14:35] <Monday> AlanBell is there an app to achieve it?
[14:36] <dougiel> can someone tell me how to blacklist my rtl8192cu so I can install the realtek drivers?
[14:37] <SuperDefenderX> Ubuntu 12.04 is stuck at Pylmouth boot... just hangs on loading dots.
[14:38] <dougiel> I think that is what http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1949810 was beating around the bush saying?
[14:38] <AlanBell> Monday: sorry, I don't know the current details, might be something to install on the phone (which probably needs to be rooted), take a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2287494
[14:38] <dougiel> If someone could reflect on my conclusion I'd appreciate it.
[14:39] <Monday> AlanBell the already has reverse tethering capability it just needs to be setup on ubuntu somehow, probably with a script or something
[14:41] <ngomes> hello, who knows how phased upgrades works ?
[14:42] <ngomes> beyond what's being told on blogs
[14:43] <BluesKaj> ngomes, phased upgrades  ..how do you mean ?
[14:43] <peaceblaster> Can anyone here help me with getting ssh set up with public keys? I've copied over my pub key but it makes me password login anyway
[14:43] <Monday> AlanBell acutally i think i just need to set it up in the network manager somehow
[14:44] <ngomes> BluesKaj, ubuntu now uses Phased updades ... 10 per cent of users will get the updates if no problem is found another 10% and so  on ...
[14:45] <linuxthefish> cool
[14:45] <linuxthefish> what is there is problems then?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> ngomes, since when ?
[14:45] <jrib> peaceblaster: use ssh-copy-id
[14:45] <ngomes> BluesKaj, it was written since 13.04
[14:45] <peaceblaster> Didn't know that command existed... thanks!
[14:46] <ngomes> i wanted to know how ubuntu chooses who is the first 10% and so on
[14:47] <kerloi> Hi all. I'm trying to install ubuntu on my new laptop. Windows 8 is installed on it and I want to replace it completely. I have read the uefi documentation and I disabled the quick boot and secure boot but when I use my live usb, grub starts, I choose start ubuntu and the I have a black screen ...
[14:47] <belljar> honestly, thank you very much for your help!
[14:47] <Achi||es> people, is there any PuTTy like program for ubuntu ?
[14:48] <peaceblaster> ssh?
[14:48] <peaceblaster> sftp?
[14:48] <ngomes> Achi||es, what DE are you on ?
[14:48] <Achi||es> both
[14:48] <Achi||es> ssh - telnet - sftp
[14:48] <Achi||es> if i install ubuntu how will i manage my bots ?
[14:48] <peaceblaster> found this https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/oneiric/putty/
[14:48] <jrib> peaceblaster: use "ssh" in a terminal
[14:48] <Achi||es> i ll need PuTTy , WinSCP
[14:49] <jrib> Achi||es: use "ssh" in a terminal
[14:49] <kerloi> If I use a linux mint usb disk it starts but my touchpad doesn't works correctly ...
[14:49] <jrib> !mint | kerloi
[14:49] <ngomes> use terminal and filezillaa .. it suports SFTP and SSH
[14:49] <zykotick9> peaceblaster: fyi, there is putty in the repo as well...
[14:49] <belljar> a likely reason that comes to my mind is that the PC screen has been often greying lately when multiple programs were open. could this be a reason for hard disk to get bad sectors?
[14:49] <peaceblaster> I was just trying to help out, my install has no xorg lol
[14:49] <kerloi> jrib: Yes I know it was just to say that my laptop is able to boot an an external usb device with a linux on it
[14:49] <Achi||es> jrib is it possible to ssh and telnet in terminal ?
[14:49] <jrib> Achi||es: yes
[14:50] <jrib> kerloi: i'm not sure what your question is
[14:50] <belljar> recently this happened even when the number of open processes were lower than the PC normally handles.
[14:50] <bs_> how to update wine
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> bs_  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:50] <BartlomiejB> hi.
[14:52] <jrib> !nomodeset | kerloi
[14:52] <kerloi> jrib: I'm just completely lost that's the first time I'm facing such a problem : blackscreen at startup and I can collect any informations to know why. My usb ubuntu disk can start in a virtual box but with a lot of bugs. I want to get r id of windows and install ubuntu
[14:53] <jrib> kerloi: yeah, I missed your question before and just read the linux comment.  But try nomodeset
[14:53] <kerloi> ubottu: thx I'll check if the option is on
[14:53] <BartlomiejB> I tried to upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 - I've done do-release-upgrade. now I have this: http://pastebin.com/0B881U9C
[14:53] <BartlomiejB> any hints what I can do now?
[14:54] <BartlomiejB> s/I can/can I/
[14:55] <crocket> flashplugin-installer failed to download http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.297.orig.tar.gz
[14:55] <crocket> So I can't see flash files on web browsers.
[14:55] <BartlomiejB> (I added LC_ALL=C only to get messages in English)
[14:56] <BartlomiejB> any help?
[14:57] <BartlomiejB> crocket: BTW - the lates is .310.
[14:57] <BartlomiejB> s/lates/latest/
[14:57] <crocket> BartlomiejB, Does it mean I have to execute "apt-get update"?
[14:58] <crocket> BartlomiejB, flashplugin-installer is broken.
[15:03] <BartlomiejB> did anyone do upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04?
[15:05] <fidel> BartlomiejB: yep - when 12.04 was released - worked without issues. and i bet several others did that as wel ...dont know how that helps on the other side ;)
[15:05] <techstorm> hello
[15:08] <BongoX> i wiped the drive and installed it on my eee 900... works great
[15:09] <BongoX> well ok, i am using xubuntu and love it so much
[15:09] <mdghbrhn> if I want to learn how to manage my VPS using ubuntu where to begin ?
[15:10] <Ari-Yang> mdghbrhn, I'm not quite sure, but you could start by googling yourself guides for managing VPS on ubuntu
[15:10] <bekks> mdghbrhn: Install a virtual machine with ubuntu, and start.
[15:10] <jrib> mdghbrhn: get a vps with ubuntu?  Read help.ubuntu.com server guide?
[15:11] <bekks> !beginner | mdghbrhn
[15:11] <bekks> hmm.
[15:12] <mdghbrhn> actually I tried many tutorials and each time I screw the vps for a reason, which I do not know
[15:12] <jrib> mdghbrhn: depending on how adventurous you are, you may want to use a vm to experiment first as bekks suggests
[15:12] <mdghbrhn> I've a cheap vps for 5 usd per month to learn ot it
[15:12] <jrib> mdghbrhn: i didn't say to read many tutorials, stick to official documentation (first ubuntu's then cross-reference with the project's).  If they disagree, ask for help.
[15:12] <mdghbrhn> and have another VPS for the real website
[15:13] <jrib> mdghbrhn: save 5 bucks and use a vm for learning
[15:13] <mdghbrhn> jrib: honestly I know very few about linux and I want to learn but I will only use it for the vps but confused about what to learn
[15:14] <jrib> mdghbrhn: what do you want to do?
[15:14] <mdghbrhn> jrib: I really want to learn and I do not have any special preferences for the distribution because all are the same for me
[15:14] <jrib> mdghbrhn: learn to do *what*?
[15:15] <mdghbrhn> jrib: I want to setup the vps , secure the ssh, secure access the ssh, setup lemp, add my websites
[15:15] <jrib> mdghbrhn: what does "setup the vps" mean?
[15:15] <mdghbrhn> jrib: I do not know if using a back end control panel is any good or I should do everything using cli
[15:16] <bekks> mdghbrhn: Do you setup the vps? Or do you just get the vps?
[15:16] <mdghbrhn> jrib: I mean I click deploy the linux distribution like ubuntu or what ever, then access it usnig ssh client
[15:16] <bekks> mdghbrhn: Do you want tp provision vps to others?
[15:17] <jrib> mdghbrhn: yeah, if you're buying a vps, I'm not sure what else you would do.
[15:17] <mdghbrhn> bekks: no it is just a one click image distribution deployment
[15:17] <pseudonymous> Does anyone use AppArmor for nginx ? Does anyone use AppArmor at all ?
[15:17] <bekks> mdghbrhn: Then you cant deploy your vps with "clicking in the panel".
[15:17] <jrib> pseudonymous: :)
[15:18] <pseudonymous> I'm unable to find an nginx profile for apparmor, and I'm apparently unable to write it myself short of "capability dac_override" which reads as a blanket "do whatever the hell you want with my files" - rendering the entire idea moot
[15:19] <jrib> !apparmor
[15:19] <jrib> pseudonymous: that may or may not be useful to you
[15:19] <mdghbrhn> bekks: jrib: like this http://i.imgur.com/0wsko6n.png
[15:19] <jrib> mdghbrhn: sure, that's fine.  Seems like you can cross that item off your list of things to learn
[15:20] <belgianguy> is the login system down for Ubuntu One and related services?
[15:20] <belljar> hello again! there are 2 bad sectors on my PC's hard drive as we just talked about. could following problems be related to this; 1. screen often greying (temporary freeze) when only 2-3 programs are open. 2. programs don't close just on clicking "X" (close) symbol on the top left of the window, instead takes longer or often follows "force quit" window.
[15:20] <bekks> belljar: Yes, maybe.
[15:20] <pseudonymous> jrib: yea, I've been there already though :) Which reminds me there's a bug - somehow apparmor-profiles installs a bunch of profile files, removing the package does not remove the profiles again.. Grrr what a load of cap
[15:20] <pseudonymous> crap*
[15:21] <gabeapp> hi
[15:21] <jrib> pseudonymous: that's probably not a bug.  Do « dpkg -S /path/to/a/file/you/think/should/be/removed »
[15:21] <gabeapp> i have an issue, can anyone help me out?
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> gabeapp  start with a question
[15:21] <bekks> gabeapp: How can we know, without you telling us the details?
[15:21] <jrib> gabeapp: our resident telepath is out, so you'll have to tell us your issue :)
[15:21] <pseudonymous> jrib: it was listed when I did "dpkg -L apparmor-profiles" though
[15:21] <gabeapp> okok
[15:22] <jrib> pseudonymous: if it's a configuration file, then you'd have to purge the package
[15:22] <belljar> bekks, thank you for your reply. these things began happening recently, earlier it would take really many windows to be open for this to happen, which was expectable for a machine with an earlier generation of processors.
[15:23] <gabeapp> i just installed ubuntu on my ssd but it always hangs when i stop doing something, but when i have a terminal window open i get an I/O error
[15:23] <gabeapp> like every command i get an I/O error
[15:23] <bekks> gabeapp: Then get a new harddisk.
[15:23] <KitchenerJam> Is there a channel for ubuntuGlobalJam participants?
[15:23] <gabeapp> even if it is just a random bubnch of letters
[15:23] <gabeapp> and the ssd is only like 2 weeks old
[15:23] <BongoX> did you format th disk? which filesystem did you choose?
[15:23] <gabeapp> ext4
[15:24] <pseudonymous> Hmm, I guess I can chalk AppArmor up to being a cutesy little idea that's apparently not meant to be used. There's a curious lack of profile examples online, Ubuntu doesn't ship one for nginx, only about the most popular web server software for high-traffic sites. :( Oh well.
[15:24] <BongoX> journaling file systems stress SSDs... better use ext2
[15:24] <bekks> gabeapp: Pastebin "dmesg" please.
[15:24] <bekks> BongoX: Thats total FUD.
[15:24] <bekks> BongoX: Sorry for the clear words.
[15:24] <mdghbrhn> jiriki: http://i.imgur.com/cyaUstz.png
[15:24] <bekks> BongoX: Do you know what a journal actually is for?
[15:25] <BongoX> i do
[15:25] <jrib> pseudonymous: you've tried generating your own profile?
[15:26] <BongoX> bekks: so what can he do about his brand-new, broken disk?
[15:26] <jrib> pseudonymous: there's apparently a #apparmor on irc.oftc.net you can try
[15:26] <bekks> BongoX: Return it and get a new one.
[15:26] <BongoX> k
[15:26] <gabeapp> ok pastebin.com/Vm4SRPcq
[15:27] <bekks> gabeapp: There is no sign of your disk being broken. Boot a live cd and run fsck -f on all filesystems.
[15:28] <pseudonymous> jrib: yea I have, but nginx doesn't launch a full server unless you specify a config file etc - so aa-logprof / aa-genprof just holds your hand in building a profile for launching nginx to check its syntax… And it's suggesting 'capability dac_override' - which, reading "man 7 capabilities" entails giving the app full access to disregard access permissions -- which defeats the idea of sandboxing to begin with
[15:28] <jrib> pseudonymous: i see
[15:29] <LeafMan> I have some graphic glitches with NVidia drivers on my Windows 8 system, does anyone know that behavior? the screen goes blac sometimes
[15:29] <Wiz-KeeD> Guys, i've check the installed packages and it seems to show me these are installed: http://pastie.org/8325611
[15:29] <Wiz-KeeD> Should both be there?
[15:29] <bekks> LeafMan: This isnt windows support :)
[15:29] <gabeapp> i know the disk isnt broken, like i will watch a youtube video then if i dont have another video to watch after the system will hang
[15:29] <LeafMan> bekks: ,,|,,
[15:29] <Rory> LeafMan, /join ##windows
[15:29] <Wiz-KeeD> idk what rc and ii mean at the beginnign
[15:29] <bekks> gabeapp: How do you know it?
[15:29] <LeafMan> Rory: ,,|,,
[15:29] <bekks> gabeapp: How did you check your disk?
[15:29] <Rory> LeafMan, is that supposed to be what I think it is?
[15:30] <LeafMan> Rory: ?
[15:30] <LeafMan> It is ASCII art
[15:30] <Rory> And what does it represent?
[15:30] <LeafMan> and means: oh sorry, I didn't notice I am in the wrong channel
[15:30] <Rory> Good that's what I thought it meant
[15:30] <bekks> LeafMan: Do you have an ubuntu support question, or do you just troll?
[15:30] <LeafMan> ah yes, and go fuck yourself
[15:30] <gabeapp> because when i switched to a terminal window it gave me an I/O error, the terminal window was already open
[15:31] <gabeapp> like when i type a random bunch of letters it said i?O error
[15:31] <bekks> gabeapp: Did you check your harddisk for errors?
[15:31] <BongoX> holy cow
[15:31] <bekks> gabeapp: If not, then you dont know wether it is broken or not.
[15:31] <gabeapp> THE DRIVE ISNT BROKEN
[15:32] <gabeapp> caps**
[15:32] <bekks> DONT SHOUT AT US.
[15:32] <gabeapp> i didnt mean to
[15:32] <gabeapp> i hit the caps lock by accident
[15:32] <bekks> gabeapp: If you know better, good luck. I already told you what to do.
[15:33] <gabeapp> i never said i know better, thats why i am here
[15:33] <BongoX> no... i won't tell sth. about streaming video, swappiness and noatime...
[15:34] <bekks> gabeapp: However, you've been told what to do, and you dont answer simple yes/no questions. Good luck.
[15:34] <mdghbrhn> I want to setup the vps following this tutorial here: => http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-nginx-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3
[15:34] <mdghbrhn> or you could suggest a better back end control panel
[15:34] <jrib> mdghbrhn: you're ignoring my advice :/
[15:35] <gabeapp> i am booting the live cd to check the disk
[15:35] <Wiz-KeeD> Hey guys, I have the Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01) network card on my laptop and firmware-b43-lpphy-installer driver installed
[15:35] <mdghbrhn> jrib: it seems that I lost some lines to read, please may you copy it once again :)
[15:35] <Wiz-KeeD> The wireless seems to work okay but it does not detect my networks automatically on startup, can someone suggest a fix/alternative to this problem/driver?
[15:36] <jrib> mdghbrhn: i didn't say to read many tutorials, stick to official documentation (first ubuntu's then cross-reference with the project's).  If they disagree, ask for help.
[15:36] <gabeapp> could it be a problem becuase i am dual booting?
[15:36] <bekks> gabeapp: No.
[15:36] <gabeapp> ok good
[15:36] <gabeapp> thanks
[15:36] <BongoX> no.
[15:36] <piggazoid> i have some sound issues with skype and steam, only one wants to output sound at a time, anybody know how to make this work?
[15:37] <mdghbrhn> jrib: you mean this one here: = https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html
[15:37] <zimbo> is it possoible to have a separate password for imap and smtp using thunderbird on ubuntu? my email account has a separate password for each, so i can't send mail, need to know where the setting is? it isn't easy to find
[15:37] <Rory> Wiz-KeeD, Can you please find the name of your wireless device by running the command "iwconfig" - it will be similar to wlan0
[15:37] <jrib> mdghbrhn: sure.  Or the guides at help.ubuntu.com/community and the guides on whatever software you are trying configure's official website.
[15:38] <Wiz-KeeD> Sure Rory, that would be: http://pastie.org/8325632
[15:38] <jrib> mdghbrhn: i am not surprised that you end up with a broken system after you try to follow this guide at howtoforge
[15:39] <jrib> mdghbrhn: you said you wanted to setup ssh securely.  See ubottu's page on ssh:
[15:39] <jrib> !ssh | mdghbrhn
[15:39] <Rory> Wiz-KeeD, Please use the command: "gksu gedit /etc/pm/power.d/wireless" this will open a blank text editor
[15:39] <jrib> mdghbrhn: you said you wanted to setup lamp.  After you're done reading about ssh, see ubottu's page on lamp:
[15:39] <jrib> !lamp | mdghbrhn
[15:39] <Wiz-KeeD> What is that for Rory?
[15:39] <mdghbrhn> jiriki: but if I will use it only for the vps do I need to know all these info about hardware ...etc
[15:39] <zimbo> is it possoible to have a separate password for imap and smtp using thunderbird on ubuntu? my email account has a separate password for each, so i can't send mail, need to know where the setting is? it isn't easy to find
[15:39] <zimbo> is it possoible to have a separate password for imap and smtp using thunderbird on ubuntu? my email account has a separate password for each, so i can't send mail, need to know where the setting is? it isn't easy to find
[15:39] <zimbo> is it possoible to have a separate password for imap and smtp using thunderbird on ubuntu? my email account has a separate password for each, so i can't send mail, need to know where the setting is? it isn't easy to find
[15:39] <FloodBot1> zimbo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:39] <Rory> Wiz-KeeD, Then put this into it http://paste.ubuntu.com/6106638/
[15:39] <bekks> zimbo: ignore set.
[15:40] <Wiz-KeeD> Rory, will you attempt to manually conduct a search when the wireless card boots?
[15:40] <Rory> Wiz-KeeD, I want to try disabling your Wireless power-save mode
[15:40] <zimbo> oops sorry that was unintentional
[15:40] <Wiz-KeeD> Can't I do that manually from the console or...
[15:40] <Wiz-KeeD> You think that's the issue that is not scanning the cards?
[15:40] <Rory> Yes you can, run that sbin command once
[15:40] <Wiz-KeeD> ikonia, any thoughts?
[15:40] <Rory> It's possible Wiz-KeeD I want to rule it out
[15:41] <mdghbrhn> jrib: I read that nginx is light then apache ... is this right or wrong ?
[15:41] <bekks> mdghbrhn: Depends on the configuration.
[15:42] <mdghbrhn> bekks: you mean webserver configurations?
[15:42] <bekks> mdghbrhn: Correct.
[15:42] <Wiz_KeeD> ok Rory i'll try that though I am a bit scheptical
[15:42] <Wiz_KeeD> :-s
[15:42] <Rory> So am I, but I want to rule it out.
[15:42] <mdghbrhn> bekks: I will add 3 or 4 websites to the vps , will use drupal, wordpress, and phpbb
[15:43] <bekks> mdghbrhn: Which doesnt tell us a single detail about the configuration.
[15:43] <mdghbrhn> bekks: jrib honestly I feel lost with all these info and all these details :(
[15:44] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, ok added it, now what
[15:44] <Wiz_KeeD> reboot?
[15:45] <bekks> mdghbrhn: Unless you do know what you are doing, you should start with the very well documented apache webserver.
[15:45] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD, Yes
[15:45] <mdghbrhn> bekks: I want to use nginx
[15:46] <EdwardSnowden> mdghbrhn, nginx is pretty good
[15:46] <gabeapp> BongoX:  whats the command to check the disk?
[15:47] <mdghbrhn> EdwardSnowden: what I read is that it is very light compared to apache, honestly I do not know for real the differences but this is what I got from goggling stuffs :(
[15:47] <EdwardSnowden> mdghbrhn, It's much lighter than apache from my experience. Many people switch from apache to nginx because of that
[15:47] <zimbo> is it possoible to have a separate password for imap and smtp using thunderbird on ubuntu? my email account has a separate password for each, so i can't send mail, need to know where the setting is? it isn't easy to find
[15:48] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, still working on the wireless to get it fixed properly, any advice on working wireless that does not detect the networks but otherwise seems to work fine?
[15:48] <mdghbrhn> EdwardSnowden: this is what I read too and this is the reason I want to use it
[15:48] <Eduard_Munteanu> AlanBell, jrib, ikonia: I filed a bug after all: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/1225442
[15:48] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, What you haven't fixed it yet?
[15:48] <mdghbrhn> does there is a guide for what to do 1st and then 2nd ...etc
[15:48] <EdwardSnowden> mdghbrhn, Use it then
[15:49] <Wiz_KeeD> Not fully EdwardSnowden, luck is not my best friend apparently
[15:49] <bekks> mdghbrhn: Do you want to use nginx because you know why or do you just think its more cool? :)
[15:49] <BongoX> gabeapp: use the Disk Utility under System / Administratioin
[15:49] <mdghbrhn> EdwardSnowden: and what about back end control panel ?
[15:49] <bekks> mdghbrhn: If you dont even know how to configure details of a webserver, stick with apache.
[15:49] <mdghbrhn> bekks: honestly I do not know but this is what I read
[15:49] <bekks> mdghbrhn: Then use apache.
[15:50] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, If you boot with a livecd without ethernet plugged in, do you get wifi?
[15:50] <mdghbrhn> bekks: what about using backend control panel ?
[15:51] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, I don't know that, I don't have the livecd with me :(
[15:51] <EdwardSnowden> mdghbrhn, nginx doesn't have guis I think, you have to edit config files manually
[15:51] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Do you have a usb stick?
[15:52] <oppositescopez> well isnt this place dead o.o
[15:52] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, I sold it since it was utter crap, I could not get it to be bootable, could not even format it to ntfs, it was horrid
[15:52] <Wiz_KeeD> :)
[15:54] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Well too bad
[15:55] <Wiz_KeeD> indeed it is EdwardSnowden
[15:55] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Your card isn't working at all?
[15:55] <bekks> mdghbrhn: What backend control panel?
[15:55] <mdghbrhn> bekks: so if I want to use back end control panel? to make things easy for me
[15:55] <mdghbrhn> the one mentioned here http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-nginx-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3-p3
[15:55] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, it is working, I can connect using Network->Wireless->Connect to Others networks and typing in the network data there
[15:55] <Wiz_KeeD> And then it shows up all networks and all seems fine
[15:55] <karab44> I want to share Printer for windows users. I am on ubuntu 13.04. Is this easy task or hard?
[15:55] <Wiz_KeeD> Been on it for an hour and looks great, but when I boot I do not see the networks come up
[15:56] <bekks> mdghbrhn: I dont see a panel mentioned there.
[15:56] <EdwardSnowden> mdghbrhn, ISPconfig isn't very useful. You'd be better off creating config files yourself. Just read the nginx documentation
[15:56] <bekks> mdghbrhn: If you want to learn how to configure a webserver, do it on the CLI.
[15:56] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, So, it's not working right now?
[15:57] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, it's working without a problem once I connect to a network, but in order to connect to it i must do it manually, it does not scan and show available networks at system boot, only after I conect manually
[15:57] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, The service probably doesn't get started at boot
[15:58] <Wiz_KeeD> Or a bug that doesn't broadcast at startup to search them EdwardSnowden, who knows
[15:58] <oppositescopez> does anyone know the most recent version of opengl for c++ .?
[15:58] <Wiz_KeeD> http://askubuntu.com/questions/172698/how-do-i-install-sublime-text-2 Is it ok if i use this repo to install sublime text editor?
[15:58] <karab44> EdwardSnowden: so here are you hidding! ;D
[15:58] <BongoX> lol
[15:58] <gabeapp> BongoX: it finally booted and it says the disk is ok
[15:58] <EdwardSnowden> karab44, No I'm just bored because I quit my job at NSA
[15:59] <BongoX> gabeapp: still these funky IO-errors on the console?
[15:59] <gabeapp> no, because i booted from the live cd
[15:59] <mdghbrhn> bekks: EdwardSnowden so all I need to do is the web server configurations ?
[15:59] <BongoX> well... ok
[15:59] <bekks> mdghbrhn: No. You need to configure your server to run a webserver, and you need to secure your webserver.
[15:59] <Wiz_KeeD> can anyone please confirm?
[15:59] <mdghbrhn> I was thinking about using cpanel and give myself a break lol
[16:00] <Wiz_KeeD> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-2 ? I think it's safe right?
[16:00] <mdghbrhn> bekks: does there is a guide for this ?
[16:00] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: We dont know if it is safe, but the syntax is correct.
[16:00] <piggazoid> can ubuntu output sound from two source at the same time e.g game and skype?
[16:01] <BongoX> bekks: gabeapp checked his disk after booting from life cd and it's supposed to be ok.. any idea?
[16:01] <mdghbrhn> bekks: may I IMing you ?
[16:01] <tito_> what is the best way to backup my whole ubuntu drive to a usb hard drive? just some "cp -ar / /media/drive " or is there something better?
[16:01] <bekks> mdghbrhn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> tito_  rsync is nice, it's similar to cp, but with more options
[16:02] <bekks> BongoX: How did he check his disk?
[16:02] <EdwardSnowden> mdghbrhn, There a full guide here http://vpsbible.com/ but you have to pay $15 to access
[16:02] <EdwardSnowden> mdghbrhn, You can find this information by googling around and reading nginx documentation
[16:02] <EdwardSnowden> mdghbrhn, And the ubuntu server guide
[16:02] <BongoX> bekks... gui... system/administration...
[16:02] <bekks> mdghbrhn: Do not use external guides, use the official documentation.
[16:02] <Hodapp> tito_: if you do use cp -ar / /media/drive - be aware that it might get stuck in a loop since /media/drive is part of /, and it'll eventually copy /media/drive to /media/drive/media/drive
[16:02] <tito_> MonkeyDust: I just want to copy everything, no compression or anything, just a simple copy, because the backup drive is way bigger than my hard drive
[16:03] <bekks> BongoX: ROFLMAO. I told him how to check his filesystems using the live cd. The disk itself can be checked using smartcl and badblocks.
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> tito_  read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[16:03] <tito_> Hodapp: so the question then is, how do I backup my whole ubuntu drive to a usb hard drive?
[16:03] <NEOhidra> i would like to restrict a user just to one folder how can i do that? i need to create a user for one purpose - upload backups, but would like to denie him access to any other folder. How can i do it?
[16:03] <Hodapp> tito_: whether rsync or cp, make sure you use options to not cross filesystems.
[16:03] <bekks> !backup | tito_
[16:03] <mdghbrhn> bekks: you mean this one ?
[16:03] <mdghbrhn> http://nginx.org/en/docs/
[16:03] <bekks> mdghbrhn: I gave you the link. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[16:03] <karab44> okay, guys. I need to know do I have to install samba server if I want to share my printer with Windows users or maybe ubuntu implements other/newer solutions?
[16:04] <NEOhidra> uuploading via SCP i mean
[16:04] <bekks> !samba | karab44
[16:04] <puckeredrosebud> running openvpn server on ubuntu 12.04, how can i make sure all ports are open for openvpn clients??
[16:05] <puckeredrosebud> running in client to client mode not bridged
[16:05] <karab44> bekks: so I guess I have to install it, cause packet is not installed by default. :)
[16:05] <bekks> puckeredrosebud: By checking your config, and the open ports.
[16:05] <mdghbrhn> bekks: EdwardSnowden I mean the nginx documentations is this: http://nginx.org/en/docs/ ?
[16:05] <bekks> karab44: Thats right, yes.
[16:05] <karab44> Thank you bro
[16:05] <EdwardSnowden> mdghbrhn, yes
[16:05] <bekks> mdghbrhn: I am out of your ticket now, since you dont want to listen to suggestions/advises but stick to your own ideas.
[16:06] <mdghbrhn> bekks: please accept my apologize
[16:06] <puckeredrosebud> bekks, what would i add or edit in my conf? also, my openvpn conf? how do i check those open ports? still pretty new to most things
[16:06] <BongoX> karab44: do you have router which supports printer sharing? much easier...
[16:06] <mdghbrhn> bekks:  I do not mean to do this but I am really confused with all these details and trying to understand what to do
[16:06] <bekks> puckeredrosebud: I dont know your config, ,how am I supposed to tell you what you have to change? :)
[16:06] <mdghbrhn> bekks: again please accept my apologize and be patient
[16:06] <karab44> BongoX: unfortunetly no, I do not have any printserver... :(
[16:07] <puckeredrosebud> that's what im wondering, where do i start? lol
[16:07] <bekks> mdghbrhn: Then just listen to the advise: "If you dont know the details of a webserver configuration, then stick with the well-documented apache."
[16:07] <mdghbrhn> bekks: this is the official documentation you refer to : https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html ?
[16:07] <bekks> mdghbrhn: For the third time, I am giving you this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[16:08] <BongoX> i  have a brother laser printer on a avm fritzbox 7330... shares perfectly well to linux and windoze
[16:08] <mdghbrhn> bekks: my friend in the top of the page, it says : "To find the Ubuntu Server Guide related to your specific version, please go to: https://help.ubuntu.com/, select your Ubuntu version and then click on Ubuntu Server Guide. For the latest LTS version (12.04 LTS) of Ubuntu Server, please go tohttps://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html"
[16:09] <Johnny_Linux> brother works pretty good
[16:09] <mdghbrhn> bekks: and this is the same link I asked you about, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html or I am still not understand ?
[16:09] <bekks> mdghbrhn: I know that, yes. But we are talking about configuring youe webserver, and not your entire server. I you need to do that first, refer to the server guide.
[16:09] <puckeredrosebud> i think i need to run some iptables command, but i'm not sure how to put it together. iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -i eth0 -p tcp --dport ALL -j DNAT --to 10.8.0.10, can't be right
[16:09] <EdwardSnowden> mdghbrhn, Read the whole server guide, you'll understand how servers work. Then you can configure a web server
[16:09] <BongoX> yeah, brother rocks
[16:09] <bekks> mdghbrhn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html are different links - do you see the difference?
[16:10] <EdwardSnowden> puckeredrosebud, It's right, iptables is complicated, use ufw
[16:11] <mdghbrhn> bekks: yes there are different
[16:12] <bekks> mdghbrhn: So your question is answered. They are different.
[16:12] <mdghbrhn> bekks: please what are the differences in between both ?
[16:12] <BongoX> karab44: windows supports LPR and raw-sharing...
[16:12] <bekks> mdghbrhn: Please read them, and you will know.
[16:13] <mdghbrhn> bekks: is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP is part or included in the server guide ?
[16:13] <karab44> they are talking about cifs-utils, what is that? Isn't it samba newer substitute?
[16:13] <bekks> mdghbrhn: Do you see it included in the serverguide?
[16:13] <karab44> I want to install minimum and essential packets.
[16:13] <karab44> only
[16:14] <mdghbrhn> bekks: I mean this : https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/lamp-applications.html
[16:14] <bekks> mdghbrhn: How about finally start reading the links?
[16:14] <mdghbrhn> bekks: ok ok :)
[16:15] <mdghbrhn> bekks: which one to go through first?
[16:15] <mdghbrhn> bekks: this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP OR this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html
[16:16] <bekks> mdghbrhn: Both.
[16:16] <bekks> mdghbrhn: First the entire serverguide, then the apache guide.
[16:16] <mdghbrhn> bekks: ok
[16:16] <bekks> mdghbrhn: For the fifth time now.
[16:18] <karab44> okay
[16:18] <karab44> now a lot of configuration... but I will skip that.
[16:18] <airtonix> did someone here mention problems with chrome tabs freezing now and then?
[16:19] <bekks> karab44: It wont work without configuring it.
[16:20] <karab44> please no, what about exploring other windows-PC's through nautilus and share my own resources?
[16:20] <karab44> Can't I do that?
[16:21] <bekks> karab44: That wont help you.
[16:21] <appleStore> nothing will help you now
[16:21] <appleStore> you are doomed
[16:21] <appleStore> DOOOOOOOOOOMED
[16:21] <FloodBot1> appleStore: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:21] <appleStore> It is way too quiet for a floodbot.
[16:22] <bazhang> appleStore, actual ubuntu support question?
[16:22] <EdwardSnowden> karab44, You can explore windows shares already
[16:22] <EdwardSnowden> karab44, Go to browse network
[16:22] <appleStore> bazhang: I am actually just trying to see if I could get emacs to run and IRC client
[16:22] <bazhang> appleStore, it has one built in
[16:23] <karab44> yes, I had Windows Network but accessing it always finished with error
[16:23] <bazhang> appleStore, ask in #emacs
[16:23] <karab44> but what exactly I want is to share my printer to other, windows users
[16:23] <karab44> so I installed samba for that.
[16:24] <bekks> karab44: If you want to share your printer, you have to configure the samba server. As I already told you.
[16:24] <appleStore> bazhang: I am bored in an Apple store, waiting for my phone to recharge, so I poked about emacs to get the IRC client working. I know it's built in, I just have never used it before, so I made it work here. I'm using it right now to connect. All my regular chatrooms are kinda dead, so I figured I'd go for oine that might be popular
[16:24] <EdwardSnowden> karab44, Well you have to create a samba user first
[16:24] <EdwardSnowden> karab44, smbpasswd -a username
[16:24] <bazhang> appleStore, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please, this is support only
[16:24] <karab44> bekks: I wish I could skip it. I don't want to configure anymore! :(
[16:24] <karab44> but ok, I will :)
[16:24] <bekks> karab44: You need to, if you want to share your printer. It is up to you now.
[16:25] <appleStore> bazhang: I apologise, I didn't know that this was support only. take care.
[16:25] <EdwardSnowden> karab44, install the samba gui then
[16:25] <karab44> hmmm
[16:25] <karab44> I still learn to hack in terminal
[16:25] <bekks> karab44: Better learn how to type commands in terminal. :)
[16:25] <karab44> so better to get some experience by doing this task
[16:26] <karab44> bekks: that's what I am talkin about :)
[16:26] <karab44> hack sounds better :>
[16:26] <karab44> So now I am gonna hack this printer
[16:27] <bekks> Poor printer.
[16:27] <karab44> it is motivation! configure ---> lame HACK ----> awesome!
[16:27] <bekks> karab44: It is nonsense, and not even cool.
[16:28] <karab44> ok thank you very much. I think now I understand what I need and what I have to do
[16:29] <karab44> okay most of task is generally a hacking. Because many things still are problematic or awkward
[16:30] <karab44> comparing to other OS
[16:30] <karab44> but I don't mind.
[16:30] <bekks> karab44: There is no single bit of hacking involved. It is just learning on how to run commands after learning what they actually do.
[16:31] <Blal> Hi, somewhat noob here -- if I'm using tmux to run an ssh session to my VPS in, how do I then detach from tmux on the client without sending the command to the server? Thanks
[16:32] <Blal> Okay scratch that, how do you send tmux commands to the server?
[16:32] <eduardo_> hello guys
[16:33] <eduardo_> somebody used geany to code with python-django?
[16:33] <surferboy> Hi Guys, is 13.04 so much better than 12.04 ?
[16:33] <surferboy> because my fav config just doesn't work with 13.04
[16:34] <Blal> KAMELOSO
[16:34] <Blal> You just ordered a 1000l of milk
[16:34] <karab44> bekks: Well, recompiling source with proper flags, reconfiguring kernels, fixing broken code, jiggling between libraries, because some are bug affected and correcting incorrect values in configuration files to make your mouse work is actually a hacking. As I said many things still doesn't work like it should
[16:35] <puckeredrosebud> ive got openvpn server running on ubuntu server 12.04 and i'm trying to forward all ports for openvpn clients. ports for other services on the server work fine, like transmission, http, etc. but the ports the openvpn clients are trying to use are still closed.
[16:35] <bekks> karab44: All that has absolutely nothing to do with configuring a samba server.
[16:35] <bazhang> !ot | Blal
[16:35] <puckeredrosebud> how can i start to figure out what
[16:35] <puckeredrosebud> s going on and fix it
[16:35] <karab44> hehehe I don't know yet
[16:35] <Blal> thanks, bazhang
[16:35] <Blal> and puckeredrosebud , what port and what proto
[16:35] <karab44> but I expect the worst
[16:35] <puckeredrosebud> i'd like it to be all ports, not application or port specific but for examplesake, 49574
[16:36] <Blal> Try the default oVPN part first, 1194
[16:36] <Blal> on UDP
[16:36] <puckeredrosebud> the client is connect no problem, but the client needs to listen on certain ports and they are showing closed
[16:37]  * puckeredrosebud grabs popcorn
[16:38] <Blal> Hm, try #OpenVPN but they are likely to get mad at you, puckeredrosebud
[16:39] <puckeredrosebud> they did last time. had to get schooled on how pfsense handles openvpn server in a peculiar way.. :/
[16:39] <puckeredrosebud> off i go
[16:40] <BongoX> ok... ubuntu is for playing mahjongg... i knew it
[16:41] <darth_damian_000> Does some sort of javascript come with ubuntu by default?
[16:42] <darth_damian_000> (13.04)
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> darth_damian_000  javascript is a programming code
[16:43] <Eduard_Munteanu> Programming language.
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> darth_damian_000  or what do you mean?
[16:44] <bazhang> !java | darth_damian_000
[16:44] <raptor556> how to upload file to a htto site using filezilla?
[16:44] <raptor556> http
[16:44] <bekks> raptor556: You cant.
[16:44] <Eduard_Munteanu> GNOME3 might require a JS runtime.
[16:44] <darth_damian_000> Okay, that is not what I meant to ask. I switched over from windows, and some things require me to download "javascript" in order to work
[16:44] <bekks> raptor556: filezilla supports FTP, SFTP and FTPS.
[16:44] <soee> hi, any suggestion how can i convert files from iso-8859-15 to utf-8 ?
[16:44] <Rory> !detauks | darth_damian_000
[16:44] <bekks> soee: Using convmv
[16:44] <Rory> !details | darth_damian_000
[16:45] <Eduard_Munteanu> soee: look at iconv
[16:45] <soee> Eduard_Munteanu, i did but the characters inside file arend converted though output file is set to utf-8
[16:46] <kostkon> darth_damian_000, probably you mean the Java browser plugin
[16:46] <kostkon> most*
[16:46] <darth_damian_000> Okay, so Java Runtime Environment seems like something I am looking for. Ubottu, thanks for the link. I just wanted  to ask if JRE comes standard with ubuntu or is it something I need to download myself
[16:46] <soee> Eduard_Munteanu, sampel code i used: iconv -f iso-8859-15 -t utf-8 ce_panel_login.php > utf8_ce_panel_login.php
[16:46] <Rory> !java | darth_damian_000
[16:51] <karab44> Okay, I have ultimate question - when I learn to make things without following any instructions and howto's and help? I mean where to learn what to change to enable something? What to install, how to configure it, where to look for it? I mean, I want to know
[16:54] <cipherson> anyone have a suggestion for middle clicking on a laptop?
[16:55] <cipherson> application or button combo
[16:55] <ska_> IS there a way to install ubuntu on a remote system without a console or keyboard?
[16:55] <cipherson> yes
[16:55] <cipherson> don't know how tho
[16:56] <cipherson> IPMI would be the best option if you wan it
[16:56] <Johnny_Linux> cipherson   http://askubuntu.com/questions/130393/how-to-configure-the-touchpad-middle-click
[16:56] <cipherson> have*
[16:56] <ska_> How would I find the IP address as well? I guess someone needs to monitor dhcp, or have the system beep out its address :)
[16:56] <cipherson> Johnny_Linux thx i will read that
[16:57] <Johnny_Linux> k
[16:57] <ska_> I think its a dell so it has drac or somesuch.
[16:57] <Johnny_Linux> its a start anyway
[16:57] <cipherson> ska_ IPMI if you have it would have its own IP that you can connect to and control the system
[16:57] <cipherson> you can pass a iso and run it as well as interact with the terminal
[16:58] <cipherson> ska_ you can also make a auto install ubuntu disk that will run all the confuration for you
[16:58] <cipherson> more complex tho
[17:00] <ocooel> Is myunity safe to use..?
[17:00] <Johnny_Linux> yes
[17:01] <ska_> cipherson: I can use IPMI, but I thought it wasn't easy to configure.. It uses ssh?
[17:03] <angs> is it possible to connect a remote ubuntu desktop (12.04 and kubuntu) how teamviewer does?
[17:03] <ocooel> Johnny_Linux: Does it add PPA's and third party packages..?
[17:04] <Johnny_Linux> ocooel  only if and when you allow them after a full installation
[17:05] <cipherson> ska_
[17:05] <ocooel> Johnny_Linux: Would you say it's safer then UbuntuTweak..?
[17:05] <ska_> yea
[17:05] <cipherson> IPMI should have a web interface you can access
[17:06] <cipherson> try browsing to its IP
[17:06] <cipherson> it will have a loggin
[17:06] <ska_> oh.. that makes it kinda too easy :)
[17:06] <cipherson> in there you can access a console (Java) that will show the screen as if it had one
[17:06] <Johnny_Linux> ocooel  Ubuntu-Tweak is good for those who know the ropes already.
[17:06] <cipherson> in there you can pass it and ISO of ubuntu
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> ocooel  13.04 has unity-tweak-tool in the repos
[17:07] <darkangel> Is Ubuntu head of the software center?
[17:07] <cipherson> then reboot it with options and tada it boots to ISO like it was a CD and you access it like you are right there
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> darkangel  ubuntu is a product, you mean canonical
[17:07] <ska_> cipherson: USB version of iso is ok?
[17:08] <dougiel> caN  someone take a look at this thread - I don't understand... should it work or not? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1949810
[17:08] <cipherson> ska_ it might you will have too see what it will let you mount over the connection but i have only done iso's
[17:08] <bazhang> Johnny_Linux, where is myunity. it's unity-tweak-tool and gnome-tweak-tool
[17:09] <Johnny_Linux> ive never used unity, so its a blind driveway for me
[17:09] <bazhang> Johnny_Linux, then dont answer, if you dont know
[17:09] <AndroUser2> Hello i have a probleme my acer logo is buggy i see it during 1 minute
[17:09] <ocooel> Johnny_Linux, MonkeyDust: Is there any other way to customize without MyUnity, UbuntuTweak or CCSM..?
[17:09] <Johnny_Linux> answer what, a question about ubuntu tweak ?
[17:10] <bazhang> ocooel, unity-tweak-tool
[17:10] <cipherson> Johnny_Linux, if your new to unity i would google "top 10 things after installing ubuntu 13.04"
[17:10] <Johnny_Linux> im not new to it
[17:10] <bazhang> Johnny_Linux, its not ubuntu tweak, it's unity-tweak-tool and gnome-tweak-tool
[17:10] <cipherson> will give you good stuff to do with a fresh install
[17:11] <Johnny_Linux> then i misread what the question was, sorry for my frailties
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> Johnny_Linux  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[17:11] <cipherson> ska_ any luck?
[17:11] <Johnny_Linux> it says lunch time
[17:11] <cipherson> LOL
[17:12] <cipherson> ^
[17:13] <ska_> cipherson: not yet.. I need to go back to the office and setup Drac there.. No vpn..
[17:14] <ska_> cipherson: I'm just doing some dd for monday.
[17:14] <cipherson> ska_ ahhh ok good luck
[17:15] <chaotix> hey...   has anyone found a way to controll the on screen keyboard with a remote controll?  or the arrow keys???  i use flirk
[17:17] <dimer_> hi
[17:17] <dimer_> its been a long time since I have been on an irc chat
[17:18] <al_la> Hey all, quick question.  Upgraded hard drive and I'd like to make sure data on old drive is unrecoverable so I can give it away.  I deleted partitions with gparted, but I'd like to do something like a low level format.  Does ubuntu support that?  Can't find options in gparted.
[17:18] <dimer_> vow, this is so nice
[17:18] <dimer_> so much better than facebook and twitter
[17:19] <kostkon> dimer_, welcome back
[17:19] <DJones> al_la: NOt usre about ubuntu, but I'd have a look a www.dban.org for Darik's Boot & NUke live disk
[17:19] <cipherson> anyone have issues accessing the top task bar in 13.04? i cant seem to add stuff to it
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> !info wipe | al_la try this
[17:20] <dimer_> thank you, kostkon
[17:20] <kostkon> cipherson, in unity? you can't
[17:20] <kostkon> dimer_, :)
[17:21] <cipherson> kostkon, ? you can't access the top bar link in gnome?
[17:21] <kostkon> cipherson, gnome3? i have no idea :/
[17:21] <al_la> ubottu, MonkeyDust: thanks, will look at wipe
[17:22] <al_la> DJones: will check it out, thanks
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> al_la  in a terminal, type            apt-cache show wipe
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> to see what it does
[17:26] <jackarg_> anyone know of a linux distro or a free software related company that is based in paris?
[17:26] <bekks> jackarg_: Why is that important?
[17:26] <yap> hey fellas! yesterday without warning my ubuntu did not boot and I had to use boot-repair. It helped but this brings up a question - are boot problems a sign of faulty hard drive or just your normal random problems that actually get fixed and you forget about them?
[17:27] <dimer_> so what is the best irc chat client for a mac?
[17:27] <bekks> jackarg_: And one of thos distros would be Oracle Linux - Oracle has an office in Paris.
[17:27] <jackarg_> bekks my younger brother in high school has to do a one week scholarship and he's interested
[17:27] <jackarg_> bekks thankyou
[17:28] <dimer_> google might have offices in paris
[17:29] <jackarg_> dimer_ google isn't very linux but yes you're right I haven't thought of it
[17:29] <dimer_> okay
[17:29] <dimer_> Colloquy, I read about it
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> jackarg_  Pear OS is French
[17:29] <dimer_> why is it better than LimeChat
[17:29] <dimer_> I am using that npw
[17:30] <dimer_> now
[17:30] <jgk> Colloquy is good
[17:30] <jgk> dimer_: it looks better
[17:30] <jgk> More mac liek
[17:30] <jgk> like*
[17:30] <jgk> this a ubuntu channel
[17:30] <dnsa> how can I copy xterm output?
[17:30] <jgk> dimer_: oin #Macosx
[17:30] <jgk> ^
[17:30] <dimer_> okay
[17:30] <FloodBot1> jgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:30] <jgk> dimer_: join #Macosx
[17:31] <jackarg_> MonkeyDust it isn't big enough to have headquarters i think
[17:32] <jgk> ah yes
[17:32] <jgk> I heard MonkeyDust is the CEO
[17:32] <jgk> no?
[17:32] <dimer_> okay
[17:32] <jgk> father has some reparations from the war
[17:32] <jgk> Ex Mossad agent i think
[17:32] <bekks> jackarg_: Do you have an actual ubuntu issue?
[17:32] <jgk> but thats all up in the air with the documents were burned at 22:34 in central Moscow last night
[17:32] <DJones> jgk: Please stay on topic, this is Ubuntu support
[17:33] <jgk> ok
[17:33] <jgk> Im just saying what info I intercepted
[17:33] <bekks> jgk: Unless it is related to Ubuntu, it is irrelevant in here.
[17:35] <jackarg_> bekks i've asked in more than five more related channels with no answer, and I know I always get an answer here
[17:36] <bekks> jackarg_: Its offtopic in here ;)
[17:36] <al_la> wow, using wipe (-kD) on a 200 gB partition estimates 6 weeks, 1 day to complete ...
[17:39] <yap> hey fellas! yesterday without warning my ubuntu did not boot and I had to use boot-repair. It helped but this brings up a question - are boot problems a sign of faulty hard drive or just your normal random problems that actually get fixed and you forget about them?
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> yap, I never have boot problems, what did you do?
[17:40] <petar`> someone who do in netbeans ?
[17:40] <yap> wilee-nilee, I got the Live CD USB stick and ran boot-repair
[17:41] <tertu> what happened before the boot problems, yap?
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> yap, the question is unanswerable really, any number of things can cause this most likely is something you have done.
[17:42] <cpined> hello, I'm not sure if this is the right place for this question.  When I grep a file that has a line which includes '\r' and I output the results to a file the '\r' is retained, this is done on Ubuntu.  But on windows cygwin the '\r' is not retained.
[17:42] <yap> wilee-nilee, okay, thanks
[17:42] <Eduard_Munteanu> cpined: that's because the end of line conventions are different for Windows
[17:43] <ubuntutis> anybody here used aircrack before?
[17:43] <cpined> is there a way I can retain it on windows?
[17:43] <Eduard_Munteanu> cpined: you should convert the input before feeding it to grep, e.g. dos2unix, unix2dos
[17:44] <Eduard_Munteanu> Or set the locale variables, that might do too.
[17:44] <cpined> but I need the '\r' to stay in the line.  So grep 'Message IN' file.log > output.txt....I need the '\r' to be retained.
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> cpined  try to add a line or script to detect the OS and modify the end-of-line accordingly
[17:45] <Eduard_Munteanu> cpined: why do you need the \r though?
[17:47] <cpined> because I am reading a file to extract HL7 messages and then run a script to read the file to send those messages to a host/port...the '\r' in HL7 indicates a new piece of information.
[17:47] <cpined> HL7 - Health Level 7
[17:47] <Eduard_Munteanu> cpined: I think you should use binary-oriented tools then, not grep.
[17:48] <cpined> ok....thanks
[17:50] <parallel21> Is there a way to return a pkg configuration options to view the defaults of something I install with apt-get install
[17:51] <JhonnyBoi> hi
[17:51] <JhonnyBoi> can someone help me add podcast to banshee?
[17:51] <kostkon> JhonnyBoi, what's your problem exactly
[17:54] <JhonnyBoi> i wanna add this channel
[17:54] <JhonnyBoi> hot 97
[17:54] <JhonnyBoi> http://tunein.com/topic/?TopicId=49790067
[17:54] <JhonnyBoi> how do i write the url in the podcast add?
[17:55] <JhonnyBoi> or rss?
[17:56] <Jakey> hi
[17:56] <Jakey> this is weird
[17:56] <Jakey> why is ubuntu using linaros kernel
[17:56] <Jakey> ubuntu 13.04
[17:56] <kostkon> JhonnyBoi, is this the list of podcasts you are looking for? http://www.hot97.com/podcasts/
[17:57] <bekks> Jakey: Because you configured your system to do so.
[17:57] <Jakey> bekks: no i didn't
[17:57] <Jakey> it came with the distros
[17:58] <kostkon> Jakey, post the output of: uname -a
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> Jakey, Would have to be in the repo.
[17:58] <bekks> Jakey: It does not. Ubuntu ships with an Ubuntu kernel, not with an Linaro kernel.
[17:58] <OerHeks> Jakey, ubuntu does not, you did somehow.
[17:59] <Jakey> ahh..
[17:59] <Jakey> Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.3-1ubuntu1'
[18:00] <bekks> Jakey: Whats the output of "uname -a"?
[18:00] <Jakey> thatsUsing built-in specs.
[18:00] <Jakey> COLLECT_GCC=gcc
[18:00] <Jakey> COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/lto-wrapper
[18:00] <Jakey> Target: x86_64-linux-gnu
[18:00] <Jakey> Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.3-1ubuntu1
[18:00] <straterra> Is there a lighter version of Gnome I can install? I'm running latest Ubuntu on my netbook and its chewing up CPU just idling here
[18:00] <FloodBot1> Jakey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:00] <bekks> Jakey: Whats the output of "uname -a"?
[18:01] <Jakey> bekks:  what you expect
[18:01] <bekks> Jakey: One line. No spam.
[18:01] <Jakey> it would spit out the generic kernel of course
[18:02] <bekks> Jakey: If you dont want to provide it, because you are actually not using Ubuntu, its your choice. But dont expect support then.
[18:02] <al_la> question: trying to wipe a drive ... is there any harm in deleting the lost+found directory so I can run sfill on a wholely empty partition?
[18:02] <Jakey>  3.8.0-30-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 22 20:52:24 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:02] <kostkon> Jakey, where's the linaro kernel then
[18:02] <Eduard_Munteanu> al_la: why are you wiping the filesystem and not the block device?
[18:02] <Jakey> @ bekks
[18:02] <Jakey> kostkon: its there
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> straterra, There are light desktops what are you running  now unity, and have you cdhecked what is running?
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> checked*
[18:04] <Jakey> why is gcc spilling out
[18:04] <straterra> It's python and compiz chewing up cpu
[18:04] <Jakey> gcc version 4.7.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.3-1ubuntu1)
[18:04] <al_la> Eduard_Munteanu: I just want to ensure there's no data on device so I can give away.  I wipe and secure-delete seem to only allow on partitions, not devices.  I deleted partitions, created a big empty one then was going to use sfill.  What do you recommend?
[18:04] <straterra> And yes, unity. I hate it
[18:04] <Jakey> wilee-nilee: get rid of unity and use cinnamon :)
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> straterra, You could try xubuntu or the lighter lubuntu, use nicks here if you can.
[18:04] <al_la> Eduard_Munteanu: I tried running wipe but it appeared that it would take 6+ weeks to complete
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> Jakey, Talk to the right user.
[18:06] <Jakey> http://askubuntu.com/questions/292394/how-to-completely-remove-unity-and-replace-it-with-cinnamon
[18:06] <Eduard_Munteanu> al_la: you can wipe devices or files. In the latter case it's only useful if said file hasn't been deleted already.
[18:06] <Jakey> straterra: T^^^^
[18:06] <Jakey> straterra: i'm running ubuntu with cinnamon
[18:07] <Eduard_Munteanu> al_la: if there's sensitive information on the device and the filesystem doesn't account for it, you need to wipe the entire drive. Something like   dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourdevice bs=10M   should do for normal HDDs.
[18:07] <Eduard_Munteanu> Zeroing out HDDs is quite secure.
[18:07] <Jakey> i don't know why i should
[18:07] <Jakey> just install linuxmint 15
[18:07] <al_la> Eduard_Munteanu: Wipe on device kills MBR as well correct?  Using wipe would take 6 weeks, unless I am missing something with recommended options.  Drive is only 200 GB.  I used 'wipe -kD /dev/sdx1'
[18:08] <al_la> Eduard_Munteanu: Can I PM?
[18:08] <Jakey> so why does gcc spill : gcc version 4.7.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.3-1ubuntu1)
[18:08] <Eduard_Munteanu> al_la: why PM? We can talk here unless you don't want to disclose information publically.
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> al_la,  no clean should take that long, why is that not a huge red flag for you?
[18:08] <stonix> Jakey: it's saying your using a version maybe modified to work with Ubuntu/Linaro <<
[18:09] <stonix> not saying you are using a linaro kernel
[18:10] <Eduard_Munteanu> al_la: also, what wilee-nilee says, that's way too long. I don't know what wipe does, it may do multiple passes but AFAICT that's unnecessary. Wiping with /dev/urandom should be very secure.
[18:11] <al_la> Eduard_Munteanu: can you explain the dd command?  read in all zeros, write to device in 10M chunks?  Also, how would I use /dev/urandom?  I agree, 6 week is huge red flag which is why I was looking for a dif option
[18:12] <AlanBell> Jakey: that is the identifier for GCC, not the kernel
[18:12] <Eduard_Munteanu> al_la: yes, that's pretty much what it does, 10M is just a big enough value
[18:12] <Eduard_Munteanu> al_la: you'd replace /dev/zero with /dev/urandom
[18:13] <Jakey> anyway
[18:13] <Jakey> i'm just starting linux a couple of years now
[18:13] <Jakey> i started using linuxmint
[18:13] <AlanBell> and linaro and ubuntu do have a lot in common (Canonical is a founding member, they shared developer summits for some time)
[18:13] <Jakey> anyway
[18:13] <Jakey> i just want to know what changes ubuntu make to debian
[18:14] <Jakey> so that what makees it ubuntu?
[18:14] <al_la> Eduard_Munteanu: 'dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdb bs=10M' would do the trick?  Also what is advantage of using bs=10M?
[18:15] <AlanBell> some packages are altered a bit, some are added, the Unity UI is added, some configuration and integration is done, and there is a different release process and support timescale Jakey
[18:15] <Eduard_Munteanu> al_la: the default bs is way too small and it makes things slower, you just need a big enough value
[18:15] <Eduard_Munteanu> al_la: and yeah, that should do.
[18:16] <al_la> Eduard_Munteanu: regardless of bs size, it still copies to every sector correct?
[18:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> al_la: bs makes it read and write in bs-sized chunks. If that's too small, it incurs a significant overhead.
[18:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> al_la: yes
[18:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> al_la: the drive size needn't be a multiple of bs
[18:17] <al_la> Eduard_Munteanu: ah, perfect, that answers it.   this will effectively remove lost+found of inode data and whatnot, correct?  also, thanks for the explanation on all of this ... very helpful.  teach a man to fish...
[18:18] <Eduard_Munteanu> al_la: obviously the filesystem (including lost+found) will be destroyed
[18:18] <al_la> Eduard_Munteanu: thanks again
[18:18] <Eduard_Munteanu> No problem. :)
[18:19] <Quest> how to see which dirs in my system have more than 1 gb size ?
[18:20] <al_la> Eduard_Munteanu: and it has begun.  how long would you expect it to take for 200 GB sata 3 drive?  on the scale of hours?
[18:20] <Eduard_Munteanu> al_la: you can  kill -USR1   on dd's pid and it will print out how much it has done and the transfer rate
[18:21] <Eduard_Munteanu> Without stopping it, that is.
[18:21] <Eduard_Munteanu> And yeah, something like 4 hrs maybe, ballpark.
[18:23] <dex90_> Quest: http://superuser.com/questions/453323/how-to-find-over-1gb-folders-and-execute-another-command-in-linux-terminal
[18:24] <dex90_> nice solution at that site.  Problems : dir names contain whitespace, and parent directories with sub over 1gb are also 1gb in size.
[18:25] <smitty1ky> hello?
[18:25] <Eduard_Munteanu> smitty1ky: hi
[18:27] <smitty1ky> um. so I bought a Micro SDHC last night, and I plugged it into my laptop this morning. ubuntu recognizes it as "sdab" but it doesnt show up in file manager, only terminal. In windows, the card shows up as F:. but the formatter from sdcard.org says that this card is unsupported.
[18:28] <smitty1ky> Gparted also doesnt see it.
[18:28] <Eduard_Munteanu> smitty1ky: "sdab"? That seems odd... did you look in dmesg for it?
[18:29] <smitty1ky> dmesg>
[18:29] <smitty1ky> ?*
[18:29] <Eduard_Munteanu> smitty1ky: the kernel log
[18:29] <al_la> Eduard_Munteanu: I don't see -USR1 option in kill man.  'kill -USR1 <pid>' would do it?
[18:29] <smitty1ky> I just did.
[18:30] <smitty1ky> I dont really know what im looking for, other than the fact that every other line mentions "dev sdab"
[18:30] <Quest> this is quit strange that my / is  3.3G     but df -H is showing up        /dev/xvda1      8.5G  8.0G   56M 100%  /                http://pastebin.com/gWQ0wc6K
[18:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> al_la: "Alternate  signals may be specified in three ways: -9, -SIGKILL or -KILL."
[18:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> al_la: and yeah, that'd do
[18:31] <smitty1ky> Eduard_Munteanu: What do I do now?
[18:32] <al_la> Eduard_Munteanu: success, and very handy.  Thanks again for the help and info.
[18:32] <Eduard_Munteanu> smitty1ky: can you pastebin the last 50 lines or so? e.g. dmesg | tail -n 50 | wgetpaste   (or whatever there is in Ubuntu for pastebins)
[18:32] <Quest> whats wrong?
[18:33] <al_la> Eduard_Muntean: One last easy question ... I still don't understand the -USR1 or how the "Alternate  signals may be specified in three ways: -9, -SIGKILL or -KILL" explains it.
[18:34] <smitty1ky> "dmesg | tail -n 50 |" returns nothing
[18:34] <bekks> smitty1ky: One | to much at the end.
[18:35] <mdghbrhn> how to register a new account in ubuntu forum
[18:35] <kostkon> smitty1ky, you said you can access it from the terminal? does it mean it gets mounted somewhere?
[18:36] <kostkon> mdghbrhn, you need to create an u1 account: https://one.ubuntu.com/
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> mdghbrhn, Try #ubuntuforums
[18:37] <smitty1ky> kostkon I cant access it (as far as I know), but "ls /dev/sd*" returns "/dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda4  /dev/sda5  /dev/sdb" with the card in and "/dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda4  /dev/sda5" with the card out
[18:38] <dex90_> smitty1ky:  mount | grep sdab  ,  just to see if its mounted
[18:38] <kostkon> smitty1ky, how do you access it then, what's its mount point?
[18:38] <kostkon> smitty1ky, or you just mean the above ls output?
[18:39] <smitty1ky> just the ls output
[18:39] <Quest>  see line  38    and  14  conflicts with     line   19 . why ?   http://pastebin.com/0MXeCZ4Y
[18:39] <smitty1ky> also, "mount | grep sdab" returns nothing
[18:41] <smitty1ky> Eduard_Munteanu: I made what you wanted on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/rW1ZFTxQ
[18:42] <Eduard_Munteanu> smitty1ky: there's no "sdab" in there
[18:42] <Eduard_Munteanu> smitty1ky: it also looks like your card reader or drivers might not support that particular card. (Yeah, SD cards really suck.)
[18:42] <smitty1ky> Im just realising that now.
[18:43] <mdghbrhn> what is the recommended virtual machine to be used with ubunu
[18:43] <smitty1ky> But my computer is spec'd to support SDHC cards...
[18:44] <kostkon> mdghbrhn, as the host? vb? easily available
[18:44] <Eduard_Munteanu> smitty1ky: it's not a SDHC issue per se
[18:44] <kostkon> smitty1ky, if it's the /dev/sdb then i'm seeing a lot of error in your paste
[18:45] <Eduard_Munteanu> smitty1ky: even consumer devices like cameras have trouble taking in some cards
[18:45] <smitty1ky> I think my phone can read the card tho, if I reformatted it with my phone, could that make it work on my computer?
[18:45] <mdghbrhn> kostkon: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/virtualbox/downloads/index.html
[18:45] <kostkon> smitty1ky, worth a try
[18:46] <kostkon> mdghbrhn, yeah
[18:46] <kostkon> mdghbrhn, eer not wait
[18:46] <kostkon> no*
[18:46] <smitty1ky> I might have to invest in one of those SD to USB readers
[18:46] <kostkon> mdghbrhn, https://www.virtualbox.org/
[18:47] <mdghbrhn> thanks
[18:50] <smitty1ky> this sucks. >.>
[18:52] <jimmy____> hi, i'm trying to run dwarf fortress and i keep getting this: "error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[18:53] <kostkon> !find libSDL-1.2.so.0
[18:53] <jimmy____> kostkon now what? I'd just like the package name so i can get it...
[18:53] <kostkon> jimmy____, "libsdl1.2debian"
[18:54] <kostkon> !info libsdl1.2debian
[18:54] <jimmy____> kostkon, it says It's already installed
[18:55] <kostkon> jimmy____, maube it's looking for it in the wrong place
[18:56] <jimmy____> kostkon so how do i fix that?
[18:56] <ubuntutis> how come ibqyoto4.5-cil is not available for ubuntu 13.04
[19:00] <kostkon> jimmy____, is it a 64bit installation. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libSDL-1.2.so.0&mode=exactfilename&suite=raring&arch=any
[19:00] <kostkon> jimmy____, im guessing you will need to install the 32bit package
[19:01] <Rat2000> what is the command to see the video cards in ubuntu?
[19:02] <jimmy____> kostkon they have the same name, and I can't seem to find a link to the package
[19:04] <jimmy____> kostkon ok i think i got it
[19:06] <feelthiswhat-> i'm using ubuntu ,how to put some food from my monitor?
[19:06] <CH33ZBURGER> try lspci
[19:06] <dex90_> lspci | grep VGA
[19:06] <Rat2000> dex90_, thnx
[19:06] <CH33ZBURGER> oh nice one
[19:06] <CH33ZBURGER> :P
[19:06] <danilko> Is it possible to install Lotus Symphony onto Ubuntu 13.0.4?
[19:07] <Ubuntivity> Hello
[19:07] <daftykins> hi
[19:08] <Ubuntivity> I have a problem with wget
[19:08] <daftykins> please give us some detail with a question on one line
[19:08] <SchrodingersScat> Ubuntivity: and what would that be?
[19:08] <Ubuntivity> After some downloading I get the error: "Cannot write to <myfile> (Read-only file system).
[19:09] <daftykins> sounds like your file system is set to read only!
[19:09] <Ubuntivity> While my filesystem is mounted as rw as "mount" states: /dev/sda5 on /mnt/drive type vfat (rw)
[19:09] <SchrodingersScat> Ubuntivity: could it be a permission problem?
[19:09] <daftykins> not on FAT
[19:09] <daftykins> i would've thought
[19:10] <Ubuntivity> SchrodingersScat: I'm running wget as root (using sudo) to overcome that problem
[19:10] <Ubuntivity> daftykins: What do you mean 'not on FAT'?
[19:10] <daftykins> not sure you'd get permissions issues on FAT
[19:11] <daftykins> Ubuntivity: can you pastebin "ls -l" from your attempted download path?
[19:11] <Ubuntivity> SchrodingersScat: It downloads for some time, then gives me that "read only" error, which means it COULD download for some time.
[19:11] <Ubuntivity> daftykins: You mean in the working directory?
[19:11] <wylde> permission issues on the directory it's mounted in? ...just a thought
[19:11] <SchrodingersScat> Ubuntivity: right, i was thinking about how you phrased that, so how long is some time?  and right, daftykins, Ubuntivity does it create the file at all?
[19:11] <danilko> How do I get around the dependency libnotify1 >=0.4.4 not satisfiable error? Installing Symphony 3.0.1 on Ubuntu 13.04?
[19:12] <daftykins> danilko: find a repo with a newer version
[19:12] <Ubuntivity> SchrodingersScat: Not sure how much time, but basically for several minutes. And yes, it creates the file and downloads a part of it.
[19:12] <SchrodingersScat> Ubuntivity: happen to do a backup of the drive lately?  because that sounds scary to me.
[19:12] <CH33ZBURGER> or build it from source
[19:13] <cstewart> anyone have experience with partylog
[19:13] <Ubuntivity> SchrodingersScat: It is a secondary (non-essential) PC, I won't really mind getting its drive wiped!
[19:13] <Ubuntivity> SchrodingersScat: But I usually use it for downloading large files using wget -c
[19:13] <Ubuntivity> and for unknown reason I'm getting this error today every now and then!
[19:13] <SchrodingersScat> Ubuntivity: right, normally that should work, what does it do in your case?
[19:14] <Ubuntivity> I'm mounting my drive using "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda5 /mnt/drive"
[19:14] <danilko> @ daftykins: I have libnotify4 installed, I guess by default. I could google a repo for libnotify1.. do you think that libnotify4 is greater than or equal to libnotify1?
[19:14] <daftykins> don't have a clue
[19:15] <Ubuntivity> SchrodingersScat: It downloads for some time, and I leave it and go away, then when I back I find that error saying "(Read-only file system) and can't continute download until I "umount" then "mount" again the drive!
[19:15] <dex90_> danilko: some discussion here: http://www-03.ibm.com/software/lotus/symphony/symphonyForum.nsf/0/B4D87A0C7CBA6884852579C9004540AC?Open=
[19:16] <jimmy____> kostkon are you still there? i'm having trouble finding a download link for the 32-bit package
[19:16] <danilko> I suppose its not teribly important. I mean we do have libreoffice, but I was hoping to install something maybe a bit more robust. Maybe the world has passed Symphony by and it's too old.
[19:17] <Ubuntivity> SchrodingersScat: I've unmounted and remounted my drive again, and now wget is downloading once more, but not sure how long will it keep goint until it stops with that error message!
[19:18] <danilko> dex90: thanks. I am ckecking it out.
[19:18] <kostkon> jimmy____, a good read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch
[19:18] <opcode0> how about you download that file to another filesystem? :P
[19:18] <SchrodingersScat> Ubuntivity: I suspect a drive problem, but I could be way off.
[19:18] <kostkon> jimmy____, try with package_name:i386
[19:19] <jimmy____> kostkon: libsdl1.2debiani386 ? doesn't work
[19:19] <Ubuntivity> SchrodingersScat: a file system error? or a physical drive error?
[19:19] <kostkon> jimmy____, libsdl1.2debiani386:i386
[19:20] <kostkon> jimmy____, oops
[19:20] <kostkon> jimmy____, libsdl1.2debian:i386
[19:21] <jimmy____> kostkon it worked! let's see if df will run now
[19:21] <kostkon> jimmy____, typo, i just c/ped your msg and that happened :P
[19:21] <kostkon> jimmy____, nice
[19:22] <jimmy____> kostkon haha i've got another dependency now. can you teach me how to find package name for dependencies? this one is: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[19:22] <kostkon> jimmy____, just follow the same pattern
[19:22] <jimmy____> but how to i find the package name kostkon?
[19:22] <opcode0> my electric stove won't heat. it's plugged, knob turned all the way, red light is on (normally indicating heating) but it remains cold. any idea? (i got a half rib waiting, shrooms sliced up already with tomatoes)
[19:23] <wylde> jimmy____: apt-file is handy for that
[19:23] <kostkon> jimmy____, try: dkpg -S filename
[19:23] <CH33ZBURGER> yer call a pitza guy & an electrican
[19:23] <kostkon> jimmy____, nevertheless let's c
[19:23] <kostkon> !find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[19:24] <kostkon> jimmy____, thus, you need libgtk2.0-0:i386
[19:24] <Slipknot_> hello ppl, anyone knows vpn wich is not hosted in the Us?
[19:24] <opcode0> yes
[19:25] <Slipknot_> any links if thats possible
[19:25] <Guest87883> is there a room for picuntu?
[19:25] <opcode0> vpnbook got servers in EU and UK
[19:25] <opcode0> i use it, it's ok
[19:25] <jimmy____> so kostkon I just need to type "!find filename" in the irc? how do i do so from terminal?
[19:25] <Slipknot_> thanks opcode0
[19:25] <MGMT> I'm trying to install picuntu onto a mk802 and I just want to make sure theres somewhere I can go if I get really stuck
[19:26] <kostkon> jimmy____, dpkg -S filename, i think
[19:26] <jimmy____> kostkon ok ill see
[19:26] <OerHeks> locate <filename>
[19:26] <jimmy____> !find libgtk2.0-0
[19:28] <jimmy____> ok kostkon i have a problem with libgtk2.0-0 . I have both versions already and doesn't work
[19:28] <kostkon> jimmy____, you have libgtk2.0-0:i386 already?
[19:28] <jimmy____> apparently yes kostkon
[19:29] <kostkon> jimmy____, what's the message you are getting
[19:29] <jimmy____> when trying to load df this is it: "./libs/Dwarf_Fortress: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[19:29] <kostkon> jimmy____, that's the old one, isn't it
[19:30] <jimmy____> kostkon yep I think so. I thought I figured that one out
[19:30] <kostkon> jimmy____, so you are still getting that message about sdl
[19:30] <jimmy____> kostkon my memory isn't great but this might be a different SDL
[19:31] <hays> I have an asus.archive.canonical.com in my sources.list that points to precice pangolin directory....  there is not any more recent. can I mix this with 13.x sources?
[19:31] <OerHeks> hays no
[19:31] <kostkon> jimmy____, oh yeah. again same pattern
[19:32] <hays> OerHeks: bummer
[19:32] <kostkon> !find libSDL_image-1.2.so.0
[19:32] <kostkon> jimmy____,  libsdl-image1.2:i386
[19:32] <jimmy____> kostkon but it says I already have both
[19:32] <kostkon> jimmy____, right
[19:32] <jimmy____> IT WORKS
[19:32] <jimmy____> kostkon
[19:32] <kostkon> jimmy____, how??
[19:33] <jimmy____> must've been some confusion on my part. let's see if df runs NOW
[19:33] <jimmy____> !find libSDL_ttf-2.0.so.0
[19:34] <jimmy____> kostkon ok so it works but the APL library failed and there's no sound
[19:35] <jimmy____> at least i've got the pixels
[19:35] <jimmy____> thanks kostkon!
[19:35] <kostkon> jimmy____, apl?? what's the exact message
[19:35] <kostkon> jimmy____, never heard of it
[19:35] <kostkon> jimmy____, you mean openal?
[19:36] <kostkon> !find openal
[19:36] <kostkon> hmm
[19:36] <jimmy____> kostkon yes
[19:37] <kostkon> jimmy____, make sure you have: libopenal1:i386
[19:38] <kostkon> jimmy____, then find the "Sound" subsection here and give the 3 command it says: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Installation
[19:38] <kostkon> jimmy____, actually no forget about it
[19:39] <hays> OerHeks: hm ok what if the /etc/apt/sources.list seems to have changed without my doing, and the asus.archive.canonical.com source is now removed (??!?)
[19:39] <miliisipoika> hey.. can I ask question?
[19:39] <kostkon> jimmy____, it seems it's looking for libopenal.so instead of libopenal.so.1
[19:39] <miliisipoika> some years ago when you could order ubuntu/kubuntu cds online for free of charge, I did so for a while and now I have around 100-150 cds
[19:39] <miliisipoika> I never use ubuntu, is this good?
[19:40] <BluesKaj> miliisipoika, we wouldn't be if it wasn't
[19:40] <miliisipoika> no I mean is it good thing I did?
[19:40] <miliisipoika> I do nothing with it.. maybe use as throwing cards or something
[19:40] <kostkon> jimmy____, maybe in your case, something along the lines of sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libopenal.so.1 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libopenal.so
[19:41] <kostkon> jimmy____, and sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libsndfile.so.1 ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libsndfile.so
[19:41] <OerHeks> hays then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade to reload the lists
[19:42] <hays> OerHeks: founds something in sources.list.d/
[19:42] <hays> OerHeks: but it looks like some weird chinese metapackages only... seems safe to remove
[19:42] <[twisti]> hey, any suggestions for a bittorrent client to run on a headless server/text mode, ideally with maybe like a web interface or something ?
[19:43] <SchrodingersScat> [twisti]: rtorrent with rutorrent
[19:43] <wylde> [twisti]: transmission-daemon
[19:43] <ubuntutis> anyone here ever used aircrack-ng before?
[19:43] <kostkon> damn i meant to say sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libsndfile.so.1 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libsndfile.so   nvm :/
[19:43] <[twisti]> can either of those prioritize different files inside a torrent differently ?
[19:44] <wylde> [twisti]: transmission can if I recall
[19:44] <[twisti]> thanks
[19:45] <wylde> [twisti]: little tip. Disable the daemon before editing the config ;)
[19:45] <[twisti]> wylde: i was going to read up on it first anyways, why ?
[19:45] <ubuntutis> anyone here know how to install drivers?
[19:46] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[19:46] <wylde> [twisti]: otherwise it will be overwritten with the old configuration when you restart the daemon
[19:46] <[twisti]> fun
[19:47] <danilko> dex90_: I found libnotify1 at http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libnotify1 and lucid updates.. I searched for it on http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libnotify1... I installed it and all the dependencies were met. Now Lotus is doing something but hard to tell. At least the error message is gone.
[19:47] <kostkon> Daniel0, lucid?
[19:47] <kostkon> oops
[19:48] <kostkon> danilko, lucid?*
[19:48] <jgk> as hi
[19:48] <danilko> kostkon: yeah that's what showed up when I did the search. So far nothing broke. So I don't know what to think. I am A Windows/Mac user so this is all new to me.
[19:50] <funkt> Hi there I have got a partition in ubuntu 12.04 which i want to use for my backup files but i cant write to it anyone have any ideaS?
[19:50] <danilko> symphony still applying changes... So cross fingers
[19:50] <hays> Is this repo as useless as it seems? http://asus.archive.canonical.com/dists/precise-annan/
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> funkt, In 12.04, you mean a ext4 partition on the HD?
[19:51] <hays> It seems like it is a baidu plugin for firefox
[19:51] <funkt> erm it is ext 4 yes
[19:51] <hays> and some chinese settings
[19:52] <darkapp> hi
[19:52] <daftykins> funkt: does your user have ownership and permissions on the path?
[19:52] <peepsalot> hello, I have an application that is attempting to access /dev/input/event15, which i think is related to my laptop touchpad, but it does not have the permissions.  is there any harm in changing the permissions for this device?
[19:52] <funkt> sorry I dont understand
[19:53] <funkt> it sayes it is root
[19:53] <BluesKaj> !lucid | danilko
[19:53] <daftykins> funkt: yeah that'll be why it doesn't work then. run "sudo chown -R yourusername: /path/to/mount/"
[19:53] <danilko> ubottu, so I installed a bin for a different version of ubuntu?
[19:53] <daftykins> lolz
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> funkt, checkout the chmod. http://askubuntu.com/questions/252361/how-could-i-mount-an-ext4-partition-and-have-write-permission
[19:54] <danilko> blueskaj, so I installed a version of libnotify1 for a differnt version of ubuntu?
[19:54] <cil> danilko: others have installed the older libnotify version, and have got symphony to work.  Slow to start apparently.
[19:55] <danilko> cil, I am testing my first run
[19:55] <iljuschin> hello everyone! today all my filesystem was made read-only. I asked for advice here, and it was suggested that hard disk could be damaged, hence linux would start system as read-only. since my hard disk showed also bad sectors, I was strongly advised to replace the hard disk. later when I ran "fix broken" in grub's recovery menu, it streamed a number of command lines ending with "FIXED", and subsequently the read-only mode was gone. (j
[19:55] <iljuschin> ust prior to doing this fix, I even had problem starting ubuntu in the normal mode).
[19:55] <iljuschin> gosh, it's been such a long post
[19:56] <iljuschin> the question is, if the read-only was really related to hard disk, if so, how could it be fixed with recovery mode?
[19:57] <daftykins> iljuschin: i'm not entirely sure what you're asking
[19:58] <funkt> hey there thank you but its saying I am an invalid user?
[19:58] <iljuschin> daftykins, sorry, rephrasing here: if I had a read-only system today because of a hard-disk damage, how could it be fixed by starting recovery menu and running "fix broken"? I'm trying to figure the reason of the problem I had today
[19:59] <daftykins> iljuschin: well it could reallocate the data if anything was written into the bad sectors
[19:59] <iljuschin> today all my files were read-only. I couldn't move or change them.
[19:59] <iljuschin> until I did the referred fix
[19:59] <OerHeks> iljuschin, recovery starts before mounting the partition, so that is why it is able to fix
[19:59] <danilko> cil, it works. Ubuntu 13.04, with libnotify1 from lucid.. Not slow, as far as I can tell. Pops right up.
[20:01] <iljuschin> daftykins, OerHeks; but if it was something that can be fixed by applying fix, then my hard disk's state sounds not to be related to anything that causes a read-only start of the system, does it?
[20:01] <hays> is upgrading to 13 on a laptop probably going to be smooth or will i likely have issues
[20:02] <kostkon> !info libnotify raring
[20:02] <cil> danilko: nice =)  others have tried it, and moved over to libreoffice
[20:02] <kostkon> !info libnotify lucid
[20:02] <OerHeks> iljuschin, it is possible it does, wait for the next error
[20:02] <iljuschin> in other words, it is still the same hard disk, but the problem is gone now.
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> iljuschin:  if theres a bad problem detected with the filesystem, the OS will kick it over to 'read only mode' to prevent any more damage. a fsck then can hopefully repair it.
[20:04] <iljuschin> OerHeks: so files are possibly temporarily reallocated until the bad sectors create trouble again
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> iljuschin:  it might have been due to hardware issue. or just some odd software quirk
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> iljuschin:  yes. the bad sectord can get worked around. but i would be making a backup and keepinmg an eye on that drive in the future.
[20:05] <iljuschin> Dr_Willis: I spent the rest of my afternoon doing it :)
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> I take all my 'some whats suspect' hard drives.. and put videos on them . for the kids media players they have in their rooms. ;) if the HDs die.. no big loss.
[20:06] <iljuschin> Dr_Willis: I was today recommended to discard the hard disk, yet it has just 2 bad sectors.
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> i often find it has a domino effect. ;)
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> id keep an eye on it. and be sure to keep backups.
[20:07] <iljuschin> funny, I also thought about videos for another suspicious drive
[20:08] <OerHeks> bad sectors are likely to spread.
[20:08] <kostkon> iljuschin, generally you don't want your drive to get bad sectors because if it does things can get worse rapidly
[20:09]  * BluesKaj avoids the bad sector bandwagon :)
[20:10] <iljuschin> kostkon, yes, I've witnessed it once. Dr_Willis: therefore I feel like totally abandoning their mission-critical use, since I get always this feeling that something will not be fully saved or backed up while using them
[20:11] <danilko> cil, I have libreoffice too. I wanted to explore.. You know do it cause I can. I installed Skype and Opera and working on a whole laundry list of apps, over time. \
[20:19]  * cjwelborn is bored
[20:20]  * cjwelborn is bored
[20:20] <mdghbrhn> I downloaded the .pdf version of the 12.04 lts server documentation and it is about 390 pages, I am newbie, does it worth to go through it from the beginning?
[20:21] <bekks> mdghbrhn: You could have gone through about 100 pages since the first time you asked.
[20:21] <bekks> mdghbrhn: No one in here will read it for you.
[20:22] <[FreeBSD]> mdghbrhn: its probably best learning the things you actually need to do as you go
[20:22] <Soe1en> hello everyone, I have a quick question, I'm binding a remote disk via gvfs-mount ssh://username@host, for some reason it always mounts the root directory, is this normal?
[20:22] <mdghbrhn> bekks: I are so cruel :( lol hehehehehe
[20:22] <norman15> hey, maby someone of you can help me. i look at the site pastebin.cc but i see  an index of site. Why?
[20:22] <[FreeBSD]> mdghbrhn: reading a load of stuff without using it probably wont make much sense
[20:23] <Gamer1990> hello
[20:23] <kostkon> Gamer1990, hi
[20:23] <mdghbrhn> [FreeBSD]: I need to manage the vps, and this is why I felt lost with all these info like bekks says :(
[20:23] <Gamer1990> how do i upgrade to 13.10 through the terminal?
[20:23] <bekks> mdghbrhn: Then start reading the server guide finally.
[20:24] <kostkon> Gamer1990, then you need to head to #ubuntu+1
[20:24] <bekks> mdghbrhn: I will not comment on that anymore. If you want to learn, learn. If you dont, do not.
[20:24] <Gamer1990> hold on
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> mdghbrhn:  print it out.. stick it in the bathroom.  read some every day.. and eat a lot of fiber.
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> Soe1en:  you might want to look into the 'sshfs' tool if you want finer control
[20:26] <Soe1en> Dr_Willis: thanks man, read about it several times, it's just, a half year ago I could have sworn gvfs-mount etc. would do as well
[20:26] <Soe1en> guess I just remember it wrong
[20:30] <tp43> How do you turn off popups and updates?  I emptied the source.list file and they still coming up
[20:30] <danilko> Has anyone played with Apache Open Office?
[20:31] <ikonia> danilko: Apache Open Office ? what ?
[20:32] <danilko> ikonia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice
[20:32] <Ben64> tp43: you know updates help keep your system safe.. its a bad idea to disable
[20:32] <tp43> Ben64, but its a kiosk
[20:32] <danilko> ikonia, it replaces Lotus Symphony and OOO Open office, from Sun/Oracle\
[20:32] <ikonia> danilko: oh, it's just open office
[20:32] <tozen> tp43: update-manager
[20:32] <OerHeks> just open office with the apache license
[20:32] <ikonia> danilko: that's been around for ages,
[20:33] <ikonia> danilko: people seem to be leaning more towards libre office these days,
[20:33] <danilko> It seems to be a new fork  Currently in development
[20:33] <ikonia> danilko: nah, still the same website
[20:33] <ikonia> danilko: development didn't end on it, looks like they just changed the licnse.
[20:34] <danilko> I know libre office is popular, because it's preinstalled
[20:34] <danilko> ikonia...
[20:34] <danilko> oj
[20:34] <danilko> oh
[20:35] <Hodapp> and OpenOffice.org in turn used to be StarOffice or whatever...
[20:35] <danilko> ohh I forgot.. I photoshop equivalent...
[20:36] <Gnarly> apache openoffice merged the ibm code into it
[20:36] <Gnarly> from what i saw in some screenshots, it appears you can do a symphony esc interface with the sidebar and such
[20:38] <danilko> At least with Libre Office you don't have to load the whole thing to get to a document. It's more modularized
[20:39] <tp43> tozen, my boss said he looked in the update mananger, and couldn't find the option to turn off updates and pop up
[20:40] <tp43> is it possible to remove the gnome desktop and just run firefox from the text terminal
[20:40] <sixyears-> tp43 im sure its possible
[20:40] <XMLNewbi> Im seeing a lot of backup tools with gui's, but whats a fast easy backup for a server over ssh
[20:40] <bekks> tp43: You need an X server.
[20:41] <bekks> tp43: And its not worth the efforts.
[20:41] <tp43> removing gnome would remove X
[20:41] <Ben64> tp43: you may want something like this http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Kiosk/Introduction
[20:43] <panuroto> i'm going to try to install aircrack-ng on ubuntu 12.04, any simple n accurate way to do it guys? tks
[20:43] <tp43> thx
[20:44] <ikonia> panuroto: get package, install package
[20:45] <danilko> OMG, I am reading the speggetti history of StarOffice, OpenOffice, Symphony, and LibreOffice.  They are all brothers it turns out.
[20:45] <Toph> nautilus had the F3 function which divided the window . The new Files under 13.04 lacks this,,, anyway to restore it?
[20:46] <Soe1en> /leave
[20:46] <danilko> spaghetti (spfix)
[20:46] <Walex> danilko: the *current* Symphony. The name Symphony used to denote a rather different things some time ago
[20:47] <danilko> Walex, yeah It's not the same. But anything past 2000, is all related that and then there's MS Office, which is evil.
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> Toph: thats not the only feature they removed. There are/were some unofficial nautilus ppa's that restored some of the lost/removed features
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> tp43:  removeing gnome - would not remove X.
[20:52] <chsados> can anyone point me to noob instructions on installing my ATI HD 4890 in ubuntu 12.0.4.3
[20:52] <chsados> drivers*
[20:53] <Toph> Dr_Willis,,, i am in the process of downloading Nemo,, is that wise?
[20:53] <honestly> chsados: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[20:53] <chsados> thats it honestly?
[20:53] <honestly> honestly.
[20:54] <chsados> thanks broseph!
[20:55] <chsados> any other things you guys automatically do after a fresh install of ubuntu?  I feel like there should be a better system file browser that is gui based
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> Toph:  never used it. so no idea
[20:55] <TorpedoSkyline> Hey guys, I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit and I'm having an issue with thumbnails. Whenever I go into my pictures folder, all I get is a bunch of ungenerated thumbnails and my CPU skyrockets to 100%... anything I can do here?
[20:55] <TorpedoSkyline> Nautilus, new install of Ubuntu, nVidia graphics
[20:56] <Toph> Dr_Willis,,, ok,,, thanks
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> Toph:  i tend to stick to 'original' ubuntu setup as much as possible. since i do so much support in here. :) If i had everything patched/altered. that would make it harder for me to verify bugs
[20:56] <tozen> chsados: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:57] <Toph> Dr_Willis,,, yes, I understand
[20:57] <tozen> chsados: sudo apt-get install gnome-commander
[20:57] <chsados> tozen what does gnome commander do?
[20:58] <Dr_Willis> gnome-0commandder is a 2 pane file manager i recall
[20:58] <chsados> oh ok cool
[20:58] <Dr_Willis> theres dozens of differnt file managers out there.
[20:58] <chsados> what do you like dr_willis
[20:58] <tozen> chsados:  don't you ask about alternate file manager?
[20:58] <chsados> i was fond of the windows file manager
[20:58] <Dr_Willis> I tend to use 'mc' for most of my needs
[20:58] <chsados> yes thanks tozen
[20:59] <chsados> 'mc' ?
[20:59] <Toph> the feature I used and liked the most in Nautilus was the F3 pane divide
[20:59] <Dr_Willis> http://www.tuxarena.com/2011/06/20-file-managers-for-ubuntu/ a little out of date
[20:59] <tozen> Dr_Willis: mc for newbie is tooooo hard ;)
[20:59] <Dr_Willis> Toph:  may as well use  a 2 pane file manager then
[20:59] <Toph> yes
[21:00]  * Dr_Willis dosent worry about making things easy for beginners. ;) they get to much attention as it is.
[21:00] <tozen> Dr_Willis: ok
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> Toph:  i just found this also --> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/get-nautilus-34-features-back-in-ubuntu.html
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> Toph:  that usesd a patched nautilus, instead of replaceing nautiuls with nemo
[21:05] <chsados> is there a more advanced system settings menu?  i think i remembe reading months ago that there is a more advanced one
[21:06] <jackarg> hi I'm having problems with steam. clicking on the icon and even launching it from the command line will not make it open. any ideas?
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> chsados:  to set what? I cant recall ever seeing an advanced ond.
[21:08] <gordonjcp> jackarg: what happens when you try to run it from the command line?
[21:10] <nantou> is there any image viewer that shows images recursively? I mean I have a pictures folder and inside several subdirectories. I dont want to sort em by date or place, but just by the folder name, and I want to see em all recursively, not separated by subdirectory, as gthumb does
[21:10] <jackarg> gordonjcp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6107672/
[21:10] <nantou> I want the regular, normal sized pictures, no thumbnails or catalogs
[21:14] <Ressy_> does anyone know how to get the webcam working on a packard bell easynote ?
[21:15] <mirjam> does anyone know how to change server
[21:15] <kostkon> mirjam, as in irc server?
[21:15] <mirjam> yeah
[21:16] <kostkon> mirjam, /server server_ip or domain_name
[21:16] <mirjam> and other settings in here?
[21:16] <kostkon> mirjam, e.g. /server irc.example.com
[21:16] <mirjam> where i can find them
[21:16] <kostkon> mirjam, what other settings exactly?
[21:17] <mirjam> changing irc nick for example?
[21:17] <jackarg> I'll ask again, steam won't launch for me, whether I click the icon, launch from terminal, even after reinstalling...please does anyone know what's up?
[21:17] <mirjam> is it the same as in any other irc client?
[21:17] <kostkon> mirjam, either use the facilities provided by your irc client to do that or see /ns help
[21:17] <mirjam> oh ok thanks :)
[21:18] <mirjam> and how do i disconnect from here?
[21:19] <Ressy_> does anyone know how to get the webcam working on a packard bell easynote ?
[21:20] <kostkon> jackarg, ask also in #ubuntu-steam.  run it from the terminal, pastebin any output for anyone who might want to help you
[21:22] <anonymous_> hi
[21:23] <jgk> hi anonymous_
[21:23] <jackarg> kostkon thanks i'll try but...this is just strange. it says it's running from the terminal yet nothing shows
[21:23] <anonymous_> This is for?
[21:24] <anonymous_> This is for what?xD
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> Ressy_, Install cheese and see if that gets it working.
[21:25] <Ressy_> i did
[21:25] <Ressy_> it didnt fix
[21:25] <anonymous_> what are you talking about'???xD
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> Ressy_, Cool, be sure to name what you have tried already is all.
[21:25] <Ressy_> np
[21:26] <kostkon> jackarg, that's strange yes
[21:26] <Ressy_> it says usb2.0 camera in preferences
[21:27] <kostkon> anonymous_, see the topic. support channel for the Ubuntu operating system
[21:27] <Ressy_> wilee-nilee, lsbusb shows Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0402:5602 ALi Corp. M5602 Video Camera Controller
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> Ressy_, Suggesting cheeses about my limitation of knowledge here. ;)
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> cheese is*
[21:28] <Ressy_> that's cool
[21:28] <Ressy_> anyone else here can help?
[21:30] <chsados> hey honestly, you still here?  that gflx install took away my 1920x1080 resolution
[21:30] <wylde_> Ressy_: what's the output of ls /dev/video*
[21:32] <chsados> can anyone help me i did the command [sudo apt-get install fglrx] in attempt to get drivers for my ATI HD 4890 and just did a reboot and now the display in system settings is only detecting one monitor and now highest resolution is 1280x1024
[21:32] <Ressy_> wylde_,  /dev/video0
[21:33] <goaw> Update Manager is returning "*Bump ABI". Any suggestions for the fix?
[21:34] <lithiumelectro> I seed some help regarding mount --bind
[21:34] <wylde_> Ressy_: do you have vlc installed? if you you could test with 'vlc v4l2:///dev/video0'
[21:35] <lithiumelectro> seek*
[21:35] <wylde_> *you do
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> goaw, You see a partial upgrade there?
[21:35] <kostkon> goaw, where does it show that msg? or just give us a shot of update manager showing the problem
[21:36] <Ressy_> just installing vlc
[21:37] <lithiumelectro> I did something wrong and inverted the source and the destination folder I wanted to mound --bind /var/www to /home/lithiume3/code , code was an empty folder now my www point to nothing and if I cd /var/www/ its empty -___- I think I might have over writen all my files or something
[21:39] <trism> lithiumelectro: you can probably just: umount /var/www;
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> lithiumelectro:  unmount it - and it should go back to as it was
[21:40] <Ressy_> wylde_, what am i supposed to see
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> mounting OVER a directory containing data. will 'hide' that data in the directory from what ive seen
[21:40] <bray90820> When was the first stable build of ubuntu to have unity
[21:40] <lithiumelectro> trism I tried to umount the /var/www that was pointing to code and did nothing but when I df I see other /var/www may I past the result of the df here to seek more help?
[21:40] <lithiumelectro> i dont want to umount something that will broke my vps more -___-
[21:41] <tom_5803> Hi everybody ;
[21:41] <trism> lithiumelectro: might be better to paste: mount;
[21:41] <Dr_Willis>  Unity as the default user interface instead of GNOME Shell, beginning April 2011, with Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)
[21:41] <Ressy_> wylde_, VLC media player 2.0.8 Twoflower (revision 2.0.8a-0-g68cf50b)
[21:41] <Ressy_> [0x828f908] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[21:41] <Ressy_> ^Clibv4l2: error dequeuing buf: Input/output error
[21:41] <Ressy_> libv4l2: error dequeuing buf: Input/output error
[21:41] <Ressy_> libv4l2: error dequeuing buf: Input/output error
[21:41] <Ressy_> libv4l2: error dequeuing buf: Input/output error
[21:41] <FloodBot1> Ressy_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28user_interface%29
[21:41] <bray90820> Dr_Willis: Thank you
[21:42] <lithiumelectro> trism http://paste.ubuntu.com/6107803/
[21:42] <lithiumelectro> thank you
[21:44] <trism> lithiumelectro: looks like you just mounted your / on /var/www (several times), you might just need to umount two more times from /var/www
[21:45] <trism> lithiumelectro: but I don't really know much about openvz
[21:45] <List> hello?
[21:45] <goaw> thanks kostkon & wilee-nilee... I'll post it on imagebin. sec...
[21:45] <lithiumelectro> trism so umount /var/www
[21:45] <trism> lithiumelectro: yes two more times
[21:45]  * lithiumelectro cross fingers
[21:46] <lithiumelectro> thanks for the help btw its really appreciated <3
[21:46] <lithiumelectro> HOLY !!!!!
[21:46] <lithiumelectro> trism I <3 U
[21:47] <threex5> Please help, I installed 12.04 from a usb onto a new windows 8 laptop (after disabling secure boot in bios) in a spare partition, and when I restart i get grub command line. Where do I go from here?
[21:48] <NeoGeo64> Please help, how do I activate my copy of Ubuntu 13.04 and verify that it is genuine?
[21:48] <ikonia> NeoGeo64: you don't activate it
[21:48] <Base-Dev> !
[21:48] <ikonia> NeoGeo64: you where supposed to validate the install media before installing it
[21:49] <goaw> http://imagebin.org/270937
[21:56] <angs> I have some ubuntu-desktop PCs that I would like to remotely connect and use the PC as teamviewer allows. how can I do that?
[21:56] <unknown101> !java
[21:57] <bekks> angs: Install the teamviewer software.
[21:57] <eapsebastian> Does anyone know how to exit out of irssi?
[21:57] <angs> bekks, free version of teamviewer allows to connect a node for a limited time
[21:57] <qin> eapsebastian: /quit
[21:58] <eapsebastian> Thanks
[21:58] <angs> I am looking for a program that does not have such limitations
[21:58] <qin> angs: vnc
[21:58] <bekks> angs: nxclient/nxserver
[21:58] <qin> angs: or Xorg over ssh
[21:59] <angs> which one would you recommend out of these options?
[21:59] <bekks> Xorg over ssh is awfully slow.
[21:59] <bekks> angs: nxclient/nxserver
[21:59] <angs> simpler  is the better
[21:59] <angs> thanks
[22:00] <Base-Dev> angs, TightVNC
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> is this over the intenet, or a Local Network?
[22:00] <bray90820> Does SSH come preinstalled on ubuntu
[22:00] <bekks> vnc isnt encrypted at all.
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> Bry8Star:  ssh server - No.
[22:00] <wylde_> bray90820: the client does
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> Bry8Star:  it Might on the server edition. ive never noticed
[22:00] <angs> it is over the internet
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> oops ;)
[22:01] <bekks> angs: Then dont use VNC as its not safe.
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> !vnc
[22:01] <wylde_> unless tunneled through ssh
[22:01] <bray90820> could I connect to someones computer running ubuntu 12.04 from a mac if i had there IP address
[22:01] <bray90820> without them installing any other software
[22:01] <bekks> wylde_: And even tunneled, it is awfully slow.
[22:01] <wylde_> bekks: very true, I was only addressing the security comment ;)
[22:02] <bray90820> wylde_: could I connect to someones computer running ubuntu 12.04 from a mac if i had there IP address without them installing any other software
[22:02] <Dr_Willis> bray90820:  without other software -  Not that i know of. the normal Ubuntu Desktop shareing. is mainl for local lans. it can do vnc. but you would have to setup a tunnle i belive
[22:02] <wylde_> bray90820: `only if they were running server software at their end to connect to
[22:02] <bray90820> Dr_Willis: what i wanted to do was copy files from there computer to mine
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> bray90820:   You dont need a desktop for that.. ssh and any ssh client can handle that task
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> bray90820:  vnc and destop shareing - dosent have file transfers as far as i know. ;)
[22:03] <wylde_> bray90820: not matter what there has to be a server and a client. If they have no sort of server listening for your connection request, you can't connect
[22:03] <wylde_> *no
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> biggest issue may be how to get the Ports forwarered through any routers they may have.
[22:04] <bray90820> sever on my end client on there end?
[22:04] <bray90820> would that work
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> bray90820:  have theim install the sshd service. and see if you can connect
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> !ssh
[22:05] <wylde_> bray90820: server = machine being connected to, client = machine connecting to server. And .... what Dr_Willis said
[22:05] <bray90820> I just want to connect to there computer without them having to install any other software
[22:05] <bray90820> then what stock ubuntu comes with
[22:05] <bray90820> i can install software on my end
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> bray90820:  thats NOT going to happen.  you will want to install  the ssh server - if you want to just transfer files
[22:05] <Base-Dev> bray90820, this is all http://gizmodo.com/5990192/vpns-what-they-do-how-they-work-and-why-youre-dumb-for-not-using-one
[22:05] <wylde_> bray90820: won't happen unless they already have a server be it samba, nfs, ssh etc.
[22:06] <qin> !nc
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> think about the 'security' problems what you are asking to do. ;)
[22:06] <bray90820> could i do vnc without installing any other software?
[22:06] <wylde_> bray90820: no
[22:06] <Bauer1> guys, can anyone help me here with a TrueCrypt volume? I have deleted some files to free space, but df still shows as 0 bytes free, even after dismounting and re-mounting the truecrypt volume
[22:06] <bray90820> alright
[22:06] <bray90820> that's all the info i needed
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> bray90820:  not really vnc either.  and their ROUTER may be blocking a lot of things. so it may need setup also
[22:06] <bray90820> that's all the info i needed
[22:06] <bray90820> Thanks
[22:07] <bray90820> I'll just have them install teamviewer and take it from there
[22:07] <Monkeytoe> How do I mount a gpt disk that is ntfs located at /dev/sdb1. I tried mount /deb/sdb1 /mnt/storage -t ntfs-3g    and got NTFS signature is missing
[22:07] <bekks> Monkeytoe: Then its not NTFS.
[22:07] <GuidoPallemans> is there an irc channel for ubuntu.com website-stuff?
[22:08] <Monkeytoe> anyway to find out what filesystem its using from the command line?
[22:08] <wylde_> GuidoPallemans: define website stuff?
[22:08] <Monkeytoe> I was almost sure it was ntfs
[22:08] <bekks> Monkeytoe: sudo blkid -g; sudo blkid
[22:09] <GuidoPallemans> wylde_: I got this bug uploading an app: http://imgur.com/9t8ZdMD
[22:09] <GuidoPallemans> wylde: ^
[22:09] <Monkeytoe> /dev/sdb2: LABEL="STORAGE" UUID="7C7889D07889899A" TYPE="NTFS"
[22:10] <wylde> GuidoPallemans: ahh I see. Is the problem persisting?
[22:10] <wylde> GuidoPallemans: meaning you've waited a little bit and tried again?
[22:10] <GuidoPallemans> yup, also tried in firefox, no luck
[22:10] <wylde> GuidoPallemans: ahh ok. Moment
[22:11] <GuidoPallemans> wylde: I only get 1 server error when I just upload the click package and not the source
[22:11] <Base-Dev> why is opera not in repos?
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> Base-Dev:  it was in the partners repo at one time
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> !opera
[22:12] <kostkon> GuidoPallemans, try in #ubuntu-touch and/or #ubuntu-app-devel
[22:12] <wylde> Guidoallemans: yep, only one upload to fail ;)
[22:12] <Monkeytoe> ah figured it out
[22:12] <aquarius> I have here a reasonably old Sony Vaio. It was running karmic (!); I upgraded to lucid (went fine) and then to precise. It will now not properly start X: I get a mouse cursor, but just a blue screen. When this "X" is started, I cannot switch to a VC; all I can do is restart. The machine has nvidia graphics and is running nouveau. I'm not sure where to start fixing this: I'll happily install the nvidia drivers, but i
[22:12] <aquarius> can't get into the desktop to run the restricted driver wizard or start the network!
[22:13] <iljuschin> sorry, I had to be away meanwhile..
[22:13] <dhyana> m
[22:14] <lisberoia-artigu> does anyone here know how to develop a GRUB?
[22:14] <iljuschin> but how long does a hard disk last?..
[22:14] <wylde> aquarius: the "additional-drivers" can be run from commandline using jockey-text. The network is something else though
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> aquarius:  try booting to text mode. and 'apt-get install nvidia-current' perhaps
[22:14] <aquarius> Dr_Willis, how do I boot to text mode? I can boot into *recovery* mode, but there I don't have a network connection; it's just a simple root prompt.
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> iljuschin:  ive had hard drives be 20+ yrs old and still going.. and had new ones last 3 months ;)
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> !text | aquarius
[22:15] <aquarius> aha! thank you Dr_Willis :)
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> aquarius:  you on wired or wireless network?
[22:15] <aquarius> wylde, I didn't know about jockey-text; that's going to be really useful too, once I have the network up
[22:15] <aquarius> Dr_Willis, wireless
[22:15] <aquarius> (annoyingly, for this case :))
[22:15] <kostkon> iljuschin, for me i think it's completely random. as Dr_Willis already said some last 30 years some 3 days
[22:15] <iljuschin> Dr_Willis; so the quality worsened with new ones?
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> theres also the network manager cli tool.
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> iljuschin:  look at it this way.. the ones from 20+ years ago are like Model T's.. the ones today are  Jet Fighters. ;)
[22:16] <lithiumelectro> I have a weird problem that if I creat a symbolic link in my /home/lithiume3 dir that points to /var/www I can't access it via FTP even if the chown is for the user and the chmod is 777, So I want to mound --bind the /var/www would the correct syntax would be --> mount --bind /var/www /home/lithiume3/www/
[22:16] <alastor__> hi, i was trying to see whether there was a new release upgrade for my ubuntu version (i'm running 13.04), so I ran "do-release-upgrade -d" (no sudo) but it started downloading more stuff than I had counted on, so I killed the process because I didn't want any actual changes to take place... now, a few days later, if I run apt-get update and the upgrade i'm told there's tons of available upgrade amounting to 500MB... if I run apt-
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> iljuschin:  quality has improved i imagine. its just so much more demand and tight tollerances
[22:16] <iljuschin> I've had my third hard disk breakdown in a year. ok, one was my failure. but the other two just got bad sectors (ok, one after 4 years, the other I don't know how long, because it was used)
[22:16] <alastor__> system to be upgrade as if I'd installed a new version release?
[22:17] <kostkon> iljuschin, i think on average they *should* last 5-6 years
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> iljuschin:   ive had se3veral hds replaced under warrenty ;) many sites you just go and enter the serial # and they will  let you know how old they are. and often replace them
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> alastor__, 13.10 is a development
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> Not a release yet
[22:18] <kostkon> iljuschin, but it's not rare at all to find 10y+ hdds in peoples old pcs from the 90s that are still in use for one reason or another
[22:18] <alastor__> wilee-nilee: what does that mean? why do I see tons of new upgrades available for apt-get upgrade then? (i'm on 13.04)
[22:18] <aquarius> Dr_Willis, in grub, I (e)dit the command line (which is the one beginning "kernel", yes? there are four; root (hd0,0), kernel <lots of stuff>, initrd <pathname>, quiet. The one I want to edit is the kernel one?) and just put "text" on the end of it? (That ubottu URL sadly isn't there; the BootOptions page is, but it doesn't mention text mode a all.)
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> alastor__ Ubuntu has updates all the time
[22:19] <bejker> hi
[22:19] <alastor__> wilee-nilee: but i think it's a bit odd that all of a sudden 500MB worth uf upgrades appear after I run do-release-upgrade -d, no?
[22:20] <iljuschin> Dr_Willis, kostkon; I also still have warranty for the current one. but now wondering whether that I removed Windows which was pre-installed will be a problem when demanding a replacement.
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> alastor__, daily generally
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> aquarius:  look for 'quiet splash' and make it 'noquiet text nosplash'
[22:20] <aquarius> Dr_Willis, cool, thank you.
[22:20]  * aquarius rtfm on nmcli now :)
[22:20] <bejker> can someone tel me how to automatic mount other swap file frome diferent hdd?
[22:20] <kostkon> iljuschin, as long as you reinstall windows before giving it for a service repair you should be fine
[22:20] <bejker> from*
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> iljuschin:  id go buy a new hd and try to image that one to it. and swap it out... then try to get a replacement.
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> iljuschin:  if the HD came with the PC. they may expect you to return the whole pc. - thats often not worth the effort
[22:21] <kostkon> iljuschin, actually, you meant the hdd or your pc?
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> replaceiing a HD is about the easiest hardware task to do on pcs these days
[22:21] <iljuschin> Dr_Willis, the HD came with the PC. I meant that PC has still warranty.
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> alastor__ that is a distro upgrade, not odd at all
[22:22] <kostkon> iljuschin, the pc ok
[22:22] <iljuschin> kostkon, yes
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> bejker:  you make a fstab entry for the swap partions you want to use
[22:22] <bejker> yes, but what comand for that?
[22:22] <alastor__> wilee-nilee: but, shouldn't do-release-upgrade -d only "show" whether a new release is available, rather than do any actual changes?
[22:22] <bejker> if i habve swap on /dev/sdb2
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> alastor__, what made you run that command?
[22:22] <bejker> have*
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> iljuschin:  ive found that warrenties on the whole pc are often.. well.. useless. ;) too many loopholes. and easier to fix myself.
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> !swap  | bejker
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> bejker:  look at the /etc/fstab file and see the example swap lines if any
[22:23] <alastor__> wilee-nilee: to see whether there was a new ubuntu version available *without downloading it*
[22:23] <bejker> i know 4 what is swap
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> !fstab | bejker
[22:23] <iljuschin> Dr_Willis, kostkon ; I dont have the disc version of the very Windows that was pre-installed, but I have the same Windows version on recovery disc from another computer. would they realise it if I installed the other PC's Windows?
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> alastor_-, it won't do  any unless you okay it.
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> iljuschin:  no idea. I alwasy make a dvd-restore set on any new pc i get. and often clone the HD to a 2nd external hd for backup
[22:24] <bejker> # swap was on /dev/sdb5 during installation
[22:24] <bejker> #UUID=14a2d79a-abd5-4015-9f30-e7ec4f1d2c5e none            swap    sw         $
[22:24] <bejker> but i have second swap
[22:24] <kostkon> iljuschin, hmm i guess not, if you use the license key that came with your current pc
[22:24] <bejker> i have just 1gb ram
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> bejker:  so you use that UUID line as an exaple. and change the uuid # . and remove the # comment at the front
[22:24] <bejker> second i have on /dev/sdb2
[22:25] <bejker> how to mount that automaticly
[22:25] <bejker> like crypytswap1
[22:25] <Dr_Willis>   You can use UUID=   or the /dev/sdb2 type name. but UUID is the better way to define it.
[22:25] <iljuschin> kostkon, well, I'll try if they replace it
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> no idea on cryptswap.  but normal swap. You just have a proper line in fstab and system sees it at boot time
[22:26] <alastor__> wilee-nilee: ok thanks for explaining... i just hope everything goes ok
[22:26] <bejker> and how to check UUID ?
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> alastor__, did you hit the yes to upgrade?
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> bejker:  i think the !fstab and !swap urls the  bot gave explain it.
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> !uuid | bejker
[22:27] <iljuschin> actually I'd once thought I'd be quite happy working with live usb, but it turned out painfully slow..even though I'd bought a rather fast stick back then.
[22:27] <alastor__> no, I don't remember doing so... now I ran apt-get upgrade and am waiting for everything to download...
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> iljuschin:  ;) ive ran from a live usb for several months on a netbook. ;) it depends on what you do with it.
[22:27] <alastor__> wilee-nilee: ^
[22:28] <wilee-nilee> alastor__, if it is downloading you can stop it
[22:28] <iljuschin> Dr_Willis, sure. but I was doing really normal work, also on netbook. and when I sometime reverted to HD install, the difference was visible, specially regarding netbook's performance limits.
[22:29] <gregor3005> hi, i bought some audio cd's and get an download for the music also as audio-files from amazon. i don't get it how i can download a album with clamz. can anybody help or is there another way which works
[22:29] <gregor3005> ?
[22:29] <Wednesday> i heard Windows 8 can boot up in 2 seconds, is this also true for Ubuntu?
[22:29] <bekks> Wednesday: It isnt true for Windows, too.
[22:29] <aquarius> jockey-text -l lists three nvidia drivers (173, 304, and 96), each of which also has a _updates version. How do I know which one my machine requires?
[22:29] <Wednesday> with an SSD
[22:30] <bekks> Wednesday: Not even with an SSD.
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> Wensday, that is windows fast boot, I get about 15 with a ssd
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> iljuschin:  get a SSD for that netbook. ;) and you will get amazed. :) looking at doing that here.. but the ssd costs more then the netbook
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> and its just hard to justify a ssd in a netbook
[22:33] <iljuschin> Dr_Willis, :-)
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> 256 gig ssd was 200$ here
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> gregor3005:  well.. I do recall on my android phone. it let me download them to my phone.
[22:34] <iljuschin> Dr_Willis, maybe wait till SSD prices normalize
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> Worth every cent
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  for my $100 netbook ;P
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> Why  ot
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> Not
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> im not even sure what type of Hd fits in ot.. or how much i have to rip it appart
[22:35] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> If someone breaks/steals/damages the netbok.. out $100  - lose it with the ssd - out $300 ;P
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> all i do with it is IRC from work when i dont want to get out my tablet.
[22:35] <caelian> goodnight!
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> and its work time.. bbl
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> True, I only take my nexus out and the csll
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> Cell^
[22:37] <iljuschin> does it necessarily damage HD to carry the laptop in suspended mode?
[22:37] <alastor__> after running do-release upgrade -d for ubuntu 13.10... just running apt-get upgrade every now and then will keep me up to date with new developments, correct?
[22:38] <Zignd> well I think that with the Ubuntu Edge there will no more reason for caring a laptop
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> alastor__, yep
[22:38] <dhyana> hello wilee-nilee
[22:38] <dhyana> ;)
[22:38] <dhyana> :)
[22:38] <bekks> Zignd: If it will be built, ever. :)
[22:38] <alastor__> wilee-nilee: ty
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> Zignd, There is no edge, just the touch
[22:39] <nisstyre> Zignd: yeah but you will still need an external screen and keyboard
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> No problem
[22:39] <nisstyre> and then possibly a usb hub thingy
[22:40] <Zignd> I hope it get built, that will be first thing I'm going to buy with my salary. And I will not need to be afraid of having my bag stolen
[22:40] <bekks> Zignd: You hiope you'll get it for $10 then ;)
[22:41] <Timvde> I can't seem to change settings for some reason, neither through system settings, nor dconf-editor
[22:42] <CH33ZBURGER> you could try #openssh
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> Timvde, name tour settings to change
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> your
[22:42] <Zignd> bekks, maybe after storing my salary of 3 months I will get the enough money.
[22:43] <bekks> Zignd: I'll be afraid of getting that stolen in my bag.
[22:43] <Timvde> wilee-nilee: I wanted to disable the lock screen when the screen goes black, but I can't seem to change anything else either.
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> Timvde, lock screen go to the brightness app
[22:44] <Timvde> wilee-nilee: I know *where* to change it, the thing is that Ubuntu doesn't let me.
[22:44] <alastor__> is a new ubuntu version just a collection of new packages or is there something more to it?
[22:44] <Zignd> bekks, I'm considering storing it on my socks
[22:44] <bekks> Zignd: Your phone? :)
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> Timvde, you on aadmin
[22:45] <Zignd> bekks, exactly! :D
[22:45] <bekks> alastor__: It is a new collection of packages.
[22:45] <BlackWeb> Is anyone here familiar with VSFTP
[22:45] <Timvde> wilee-nilee: It's a sudoers account, if that's what you mean
[22:45] <bekks> BlackWeb: Why?
[22:45] <Timvde> wilee-nilee: Default install in regard to user accounts
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> Timvde, I suspect it is just you understanding but that is a guess we don't know what you have tweaked
[22:47] <BlackWeb> k I have a question, I have a PC setup as a FTP server, & thats access-able  over the Internet So I'm using a Passive IP in the config File. So my question is most ISP have a Download limit per month, But if I have another PC on the SAME LAN, & Point it to my WAN IP & access the FTP server Does my ISP see it as Traffic on WAN
[22:47] <bekks> BlackWeb: Yes.
[22:47] <Timvde> wilee-nilee: Barely anything. It's a default install I set up for my parents. I just installed some extra software. If you want some command output though, feel free to ask and I'll give it to you :)
[22:48] <BlackWeb> So even though  both PC's are on LAN the Traffic  is be counted as if its coming from WAN
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> Timvde, I'm on my nexus7 so a bit limited us all.
[22:49] <genii> BlackWeb: Becuase the traffic goes out to ISP dns server, then goes to whatever gateway your outward facing IP uses, then back in
[22:49] <wylde_> BlackWeb: not if the traffic stays on your lan. Other than that....what genii said.
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> I'm all thumbs,lol
[22:49] <bekks> BlackWeb: Connect the second PC to the LAN IP of your box.
[22:50] <bekks> BlackWeb: No need to send traffic to your ISP.
[22:50] <BlackWeb> So I should configure FTP server to not use passive IP, Then point Local PC to the Servers LAN IP to Do transfers, Then after I'm done revert settings of FTP Server to use Passive IP Again?
[22:50] <Timvde> wilee-nilee: Oh, I might have got something :) I opened gnome-system-settings from terminal, and it says "failed to commit changes to dconf: (error code): Cannot open dconf database: infalid gvdb header
[22:50]  * Timvde googles in the meantime
[22:51] <bekks> BlackWeb: Whats a passive IP?
[22:51] <bekks> BlackWeb: You are mixing up active/passive FTP with WAN/LAN IP.
[22:52] <Timvde> Meh, he's gone. Anyway, found it, yay :)
[22:54] <BlackWeb> So in order to have FTP Server accessible over WAN, I need to set it up with Passive IP, The Passive IP is the WAN IP of the Network..  So if WAN IP is 24.08.45.15  Then I configure FTP server to use Passive 24.08.45.15, But its Local IP is say 192.168.1.4,   So I'm able to access it over WAN with the passive settings.   But I want a LOCAL PC to access it thats on the SAME LAN, So Since passive is enabled I cant point Local PC to th
[22:54] <BlackWeb> e Servers Local IP I have to Point it to My WAN IP
[22:55] <bekks> BlackWeb: There is no such thing as "passive IP".
[22:56] <bekks> BlackWeb: Having a LAN IP of 192.168.1.4, configure your FTP client to connect to that IP, not to your WAN IP.
[22:56] <BlackWeb> Alright Sounds Good, Thanks :)
[22:57] <CH33ZBURGER> then open the ftp port on your router and point it to your internal ip
[22:57] <bekks> Wrong.
[22:57] <bekks> No need to touch the router at all.
[22:59] <BlackWeb> Alright Thanks Everyone :)
[22:59] <qin> BlackWeb: even better restrict ftp to accept only connection from 192.168.*.* pool. as long you do not need to access your server from "outside" internet
[23:00] <BlackWeb> qin through use of IPTABLES
[23:00] <CH33ZBURGER> he wants to access ftp from outside no?
[23:00] <bekks> CH33ZBURGER: No.
[23:00] <CH33ZBURGER> oh
[23:01] <bekks> CH33ZBURGER: He wants to access his FTP from another PC from the same network.
[23:01] <qin> BlackWeb: Yup, not sure if ftp config have masking option, well should.
[23:01] <administor> which would be best linux distro for cybercom fid10 very old laptop?
[23:01] <Wednesday> administor maybe try Lubuntu
[23:02] <administor> Thank you wednesday
[23:02] <natural> how do i move the apps bar on the right to the bottom of the screen?
[23:03] <xenland> is there a tutorial on installing boost 1.54.0 from source onto ubuntu 13+
[23:03] <natural> sorry, i mean the bar on the left
[23:03] <xenland> natrual:none that i know of
[23:04] <xenland> no method i mean.
[23:04] <natural> darnit
[23:04] <kostkon> xenland, there is one but it's a hack
[23:04] <aquarius> Baffled. This machine (Ubuntu 12.04, upgraded just now from 9.10 via 10.04) has no window decorations. I have tried disabling and then re-enabling them in ccsm and it did not help.
[23:04] <natural> danget
[23:04] <natural> owell i'll just get used to the bar being on the left i guess
[23:04] <natural> how about the bar on the top? can i move that to the bottom?
[23:04] <aquarius> I believe my daughter may have applied a different window theme in 9.10; I have tried using myunity to switch window themes, but nothing has brought back the window decorations :(
[23:04] <Wednesday> natural, you can set the menu to hide and just install something like Docky or Cario-dock
[23:05] <jrib> aquarius: create a fresh new user and see if the issue persists
[23:05] <Wednesday> natural, maybe you can try right clicking and search for properties/settings or something
[23:05] <kostkon> natural, neither. both are locked in their positions
[23:05] <administor> This is another cool part of linux been able to chat with other members of community.
[23:05] <natural> thanks Wednesday
[23:05] <natural> but i dont want to hack it
[23:05] <natural> danget kostkon thanks anyway
[23:05] <qin> aquarius: metacity --replace; and 9.10 is very dead.
[23:05] <aquarius> jrib, good thought. (Does 12.04 not hav the Guest Session?)
[23:05] <natural> can I make the top bar translucent like the left bar?
[23:06] <aquarius> qin, I know, that's why I've upgraded it :)
[23:06] <jrib> aquarius: don't use the guest session; just create an account
[23:07] <administor> Plus linux loads very fast and uses hardware more effective than other operating systems thumbs up.
[23:07] <fanda5> hola
[23:08] <Timvde> natural: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-ubuntu-unity-bottom-launcher.html
[23:09] <Timvde> It looks like the ppa is still being updated, so I guess it'll work :)
[23:09] <kostkon> natural, yeah. not recommended to do the hack and add the ppa etc. just try to get used to it :P
[23:09] <Timvde> I don't use it myself, though, so haven't tested it
[23:09] <administor> Is there a game like test drive for linux?
[23:10] <aquarius> jrib, the issue *does* occur with a new account: I created the account in Users and Groups, and then switched to it with the Me Menu, and the new user's session has no window borders either. Interestingly, metacity --replace as qin suggested gives me windows with decorations correctly as expected, but... obviously that's not running unity then!
[23:10] <xenland> kostkon: I've decided I'll look over the hacky way of installing boost 1.54.0
[23:11] <kostkon> xenland, hack :/
[23:11] <xenland> lol
[23:11] <xenland> I see
[23:11] <xenland> I've beeing doing non-system wide installs.
[23:11] <xenland> and it works sorta.
[23:11] <xenland> ever scince i tried system wide, it breaks all boost compilings... :(
[23:13] <kostkon> !info libboost-dev raring
[23:13] <kostkon> !info libboost-dev saucy
[23:14] <xenland> I need 1.54 :( for a paid project I am working on .
[23:16] <wylde_> xenland: get the source for 1.54 and compile? Or perhaps there's a third party ppa.
[23:16] <kostkon> xenland, you are following this right? http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_54_0/more/getting_started/unix-variants.html#easy-build-and-install
[23:16] <xenland> no ppa available, building from source i've tried but don't know how to install system wide to allow for natrual development.
[23:17] <xenland> kostkon? does that show how to install systemwide part.
[23:17] <xenland> it works installing it from source its just apain doing exports on all the cmake things all the time
[23:17] <kostkon> xenland, it says: ./bootstrap.sh --prefix=path/to/installation/prefix to install somewhere else.
[23:17] <xenland> and other things of that nature.
[23:18] <xenland> oh okay
[23:18] <xenland> that should work than
[23:18] <xenland> thanks :)
[23:18] <kostkon> xenland, maybe tell it to put the files in /usr/lib or wherever the boost files are supposed to be in
[23:22] <kostkon> xenland, check the file list of the libboost package in the repos: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/i386/libboost1.49-dev/filelist
[23:22] <nick__> is anyone there
[23:22] <nick__> is anyone there
[23:22] <nick__> is anyone there
[23:23] <FloodBot1> nick__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:34] <Thursday> l
[23:42] <alastor__> i've upgraded to ubuntu 13.10 vi do-release-upgrade... i can see that my packages are being downloaded from "saucy" repositories.... but when I open System Settings > Details, I still see 13.04 as my ubuntu version... is there something wrong or is this the way it's like when we upgrade to a dev- version?
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> alastor__, No are you sure you upgraded to 13.10, you mentioned running the -d command earlier what happened then di d you stop the download, gthe run a update/upgrade?
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> then*
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> alastor__, A upgrade to 13.10 would have included a reboot after downloading and installing this sound familiar?
[23:46] <alastor__> wilee-nilee: i've run do-release-upgrade -d a few days ago but killed it just after starting... then, today i've run apt-get update upgrade and downloaded the whole thing... i think it wasn't as smoothless as it should be because I had all sorts of problems right now and every now and then i see "ubuntu has experienced an internal error"
[23:46] <anshin> `wmctrl -r :ACTIVE: -e 0,0,0,-1,-1` doesn't work as expected. http://i.wonoes.com/2xv6hvmmy.png has anyone else experienced this?
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> alastor__, Downloaded it and ran the install and rebooted?
[23:47] <anshin> note the space between the launcher and the terminal window
[23:47] <alastor__> yes yes wilee-nilee
[23:47] <alastor__> rebooted multiple times
[23:47] <alastor__> every now and then i see some errors and the ubuntu tells me that i have obsolete versions of some packages.. then i install these packages individually
[23:47] <scribawf_> nick
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> alastor__, Run this command and pastebin the results. grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[23:48] <kostkon> alan`, what does:  lsb_release -a say
[23:48] <kostkon> oops
[23:48] <kostkon> alastor__, *
[23:49] <alastor__> wilee-nilee: http://pastie.org/8326542
[23:49] <alastor__> kostkon: http://pastie.org/8326546
[23:50] <kostkon> alastor__, you need to update some of your ppa and 3rd party repo lines in your list
[23:50] <OerHeks> saucy & raring & precise ppa's
[23:50] <OerHeks> wow
[23:51] <kostkon> alastor__, saucy. as you would expect
[23:51] <alastor__> when we are on a version but have ppas for earlier versions, do these ppas get ignored by ubuntu?
[23:52] <Guest21393> hi guys ive booted of an usb trying to partition the hdd but my hdd keeps mounting how do i stop this
[23:52] <rypervenche> Wow....just wow.
[23:52] <kostkon> alastor__, actually it updates them automatically and then disables them before starting the upgrade process
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> alastor__, yes on the updating the sources.list.d make sure the ppa has a version for saucy don't just change it.
[23:53] <kostkon> alastor__, it didnt happen in your case i suppose
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> way to many ppa's lol
[23:54] <alastor__> wilee-nilee: it's better if I just ppa-purge the whole thing, isn't it?
[23:54] <alastor__> just to get a clean start
[23:54] <OerHeks> try /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list so you only get currently enabled software sources.
[23:55] <Anti> can anyone help
[23:56] <OerHeks> !ask | Anti
[23:57] <Anti> stupid bot if you didnt see i asked the question
[23:57] <Anti> hi guys ive booted of an usb trying to partition the hdd but my hdd keeps mounting how do i stop this
[23:59] <OerHeks> Anti, you only need to unmount it once, and it should stay unmounted.
[23:59] <Anti> it dont it remounts it self
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> alastor__, I would not just purge all of them, you look to have games...etc, I would just not be running upgrades without realizing it's not a release, and making sure the ppa's are covered on the release....etc. Personally I never upgrade