[02:57] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, yofel will look into the problem for your packaging "challenge". It seems that the timing of when to patch in debian/rules is mixing everything up:(
[02:58] <Noskcaj> afternoon smartboyhw 
[02:58] <Noskcaj> that's what i though too
[02:58] <smartboyhw> Morning
[02:59] <Noskcaj> ;)
[09:10] <tester56> hi, icon tasks "show launcher when not running" is currently broken in saucy .... has anyone noticed this yet?
[09:11] <smartboyhw> tester56, report bug upstream?
[09:11] <tester56> smartboyhw: can you confirm?
[09:12] <smartboyhw> tester56, I can't do it now
[09:12] <tester56> okay ... can someone else confirm this? 
[09:19] <tester56> oh ^^ : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324661
[09:21] <smartboyhw> tester56, heh heh:)
[09:33] <tester56> saucy will ship with kde 4.11.2 right?
[09:34] <smartboyhw> tester56, I think we will
[09:35] <tester56> would be really nice, as 4.11.1 has a few noticeable regression already fixed in 4.11.2
[09:36] <smartboyhw> tester56, we will not ship KDE SC 4.11.2 with Kubuntu 13.10 Beta 2. I think we can only make it in for final release.
[09:37] <smartboyhw> Beta 2 will be released the same day 4.11.2 is tagged (so for us it's impossible)
[09:37] <smartboyhw> Final is what we can do.
[09:37] <tester56> shipping it for the final would be really important
[09:42] <tester56> another example for a bad regression: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324574
[10:01] <smartboyhw> Hmm, we got arm64 to look out in the future
[10:01] <smartboyhw> A new architecture in Ubuntu
[10:06] <yofel> yay, more work..
[10:07] <yofel> tester56: fix for 324574 is in our packages
[10:07] <yofel> smartboyhw: mind cherry-picking the other one and uploading?
[10:42] <tester56> smartboyhw: +1
[10:53] <smartboyhw> yofel, laters, I need to take dinner soon
[12:21] <soee> good morning
[12:26] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:38] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:30] <smartboyhw> yofel, uploaded to archive (first upload as Kubuntu dev \o/)
[13:33] <paul_> hi everyone
[13:33] <smartboyhw> Hello paul_ 
[13:33] <paul_> I have problems installing kubuntu on my lenovo with win 8
[13:33] <paul_> anyone can help?
[13:33] <paul_> i ve grub-install fatal error
[13:34] <smartboyhw> paul_, this is not a support channel, #kubuntu is the place
[13:35] <paul_> sorry
[13:35] <paul_> i am new here 
[13:35] <paul_> tx
[13:38] <yofel> smartboyhw: ack, looks fine. Additionally for you now: please tag the branch when uploading (just run 'bzr tag')
[13:56] <markey> anyone know if the OpenGL library on Kubuntu is thread-safe?
[13:57] <smartboyhw> yofel, ouch, tagging now
[13:58] <smartboyhw> Tagged
[14:01] <smartboyhw> tester56, I have uploaded the fix for the launcher to the archive, please wait for 1-2 hours for the package to finish building and publishing
[14:02] <tester56> thank you very much, I appreciate your work! :-)
[14:02] <smartboyhw> I do sincerely wonder will it move to -release easily, now with arm64-.-
[14:04] <smartboyhw> arm64	3	 10880 jobs (2 weeks)
[14:04] <smartboyhw> LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
[15:52]  * smartboyhw realizes that Riddell has sent the "smartboyhw has become a Kubuntu Dev" mail to sabdfl -.-
[15:52] <smartboyhw> WHAT THE?!
[16:49] <tester56> smartboyhw: just  installed it, great work!
[21:54] <d__ed> hey, I have a PPA question: I have a daily build PPA - and I got an email saying: 
[21:54] <d__ed> Rejected:
[21:54] <d__ed> File ktp-text-ui_0.99.0+git20130915+r1133-13~ubuntu13.10.1.tar.gz already exists in Daily Builds, but uploaded version has different contents. See more information about this error in
[21:54] <d__ed> what does this mean in terms that a simple person can understand
[21:55] <d__ed> the provided wiki page was useless
[21:59] <yofel> d__ed: you already uploaded a tar with that filename, now you're trying to upload a tar with the same filename, but different contents/checksum which isn't allowed
[22:00] <d__ed> well it's magically fetching the content from git
[22:00] <d__ed> and that's not been touched
[22:00] <yofel> then whatever creates the package from git needs to make sure that the version is different for every upload
[22:02] <d__ed> :( I have no idea how that works
[22:02] <d__ed> I thought it used the revision number.
[22:04] <yofel> hm, looking at that version it should, yes
[22:04] <yofel> maybe it generated a package with the same date and same version?
[22:05] <yofel> (can happen if yesterday's build is delayed till today and someone removes stuff from git and adds the same amount of commits)
[22:05] <d__ed> ah, I pressed the build now button
[22:05] <d__ed> and it possibly hadn't changed
[22:07] <yofel> ah, yeah, if nothing changed that will fail
[22:07] <d__ed> aha
[22:07] <d__ed> thanks!
[22:07]  * d__ed hugs
[22:08] <shadeslayer> Virtual hugs are no fun
[22:08] <shadeslayer> I saw people handing out actual hugs in barcelona today
[22:08] <shadeslayer> though I did not hug due to the pathological fear of being mugged
[22:09] <d__ed> aww, you could have had both!
[22:10] <shadeslayer> that would have been good and bad at the same time
[22:10] <shadeslayer> also, it was a prutty girl who was handing out hugs, made me even more suspicious
[22:10] <d__ed> I shall see you in ~3 weeks \o/
[22:10] <d__ed> ooh
[22:10] <shadeslayer> awesome ^_^
[22:11] <d__ed> hopefully she'll still be there :D
[22:11] <d__ed> assuming we have similar taste
[22:11] <shadeslayer> mugging people? who knows ....
[22:11] <shadeslayer> I can go and check tomorrow on my way to the office
[22:12] <shadeslayer> I randomnly talked to people walking out of my building and apparently they use ubuntu
[22:12] <shadeslayer> I don't think I'll ever meet people who have never heard of Linux
[22:12] <shadeslayer> aka Normal people
[22:13] <shadeslayer> fun times were had last night though :P
[22:13] <d__ed> didn't they say "no comprede, yo hablo espanol" ?
[22:13] <shadeslayer> hah no
[22:13] <shadeslayer> they were polish
[22:13] <shadeslayer> and were living here for 8 months, but didn't learn spainish
[22:13] <shadeslayer> *spanish even
[22:13] <shadeslayer> they had just started taking classes
[22:14] <shadeslayer> and thx to Quintasan I knew the one polish word for everything
[22:14] <shadeslayer> and I just kept repeating that xD
[22:14] <Quintasan> lol
[22:15] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: do you mean kurwa?
[22:15] <shadeslayer> yep
[22:15] <Quintasan> well, I can't argue with that
[22:15] <Quintasan> you can use this word for virtually everything
[22:15] <shadeslayer> yep, they were surprised I knew the word
[22:16] <shadeslayer> d__ed: house hunting is a huge PITA
[22:17] <d__ed> where are you living ATM?
[22:17] <shadeslayer> oh, really nice place near Placa Espanya
[22:17] <d__ed> shadeslayer: what website are you using?
[22:17] <shadeslayer> d__ed: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/1435642
[22:17] <shadeslayer> d__ed: for more permanent accomodation? loquo
[22:17] <d__ed> ta
[22:18] <shadeslayer> d__ed: are you a light sleeper?
[22:18] <d__ed> no
[22:18] <shadeslayer> okay you'll be fine then
[22:18] <shadeslayer> the train rumbles by and you can hear it
[22:18] <shadeslayer> but if you're a heavy sleeper it should be fine
[22:19] <d__ed> oh, I once lived next door to a railway
[22:19] <shadeslayer> and cheap grocery supermarket near the roundabout ...
[22:19] <shadeslayer> o_o
[22:19] <d__ed> was no more than 20 meters away, 
[22:19] <d__ed> every morning at 6am 
[22:19] <d__ed> it would use it's horn
[22:19] <d__ed> BAAAAAAARP
[22:19] <shadeslayer> hehe, you'll be fine then
[22:19] <d__ed> I could sleep through it
[22:19] <shadeslayer> no lound horns, just rumbling during the morning
[22:19] <d__ed> had someone over to visit once, they nearly died of shock
[22:19] <shadeslayer> lol
[22:21] <shadeslayer> d__ed: it's about 10-15 minutes of walking to the office
[22:22] <d__ed> from where?
[22:23] <shadeslayer> from the apartment to the office
[22:23] <d__ed> what apartment?
[22:24] <d__ed> I thought you were searching for one
[22:24] <shadeslayer> I thought we were talking about the one I'm currently in :S
[22:24] <d__ed> aha
[22:24] <shadeslayer> this is just temporary 
[22:24] <d__ed> oh right.
[23:49] <yofel> Noskcaj: I had a bit of time to look at gambc. The problem is that 99_move_base_link_file is needed at runtime (because the .scm files are moved in the install file), but musn't be applied at package build time (at least not during the initialization)
[23:50] <yofel> So if you really want to port that to quilt, a seperate series file might make sense and selectively apply that patch by setting QUILT_SERIES somewhere during the build