[01:29] nik90_, ping [08:40] What hour is the Ubuntu App Showdown deadline? [08:44] labsin: Today at 23:59 UTC [08:46] So, 7 hours and 14 minutes away [08:46] Thanx [08:48] smartboyhw, labsin: I think midnight UTC is 15 hours away? [08:48] 13h [08:48] no indeed [08:49] Or is it English time? Thats UTC+1 now (summertime) [08:49] Anyhow, I'm off, by and tnx [08:50] wellsb, my fault, I don't normally mistaken UTC with local time, but I did:( [08:52] There's nothing quite like realizing you forgot to exclude the .bzr directory in your click, while beuno is asleep. Surely he's not the only reviewer? [08:55] wellsb, heh [09:02] * popey notes people should just type "date -u" to find out the UTC time ☻ [09:03] popey, you never go on holidays, do you? [09:04] popey: Fortunately Senegal is in UTC, so I can just look at my watch ;) [09:05] wow, you're in Senegal? [09:05] Indeed [09:06] Beautiful Ziguinchor [09:49] morning people! [09:51] popey, ping [09:59] mefrio, hi [09:59] clepto, hey [10:00] mefrio, it seems that your fix for camera doesn't work [10:00] clepto, have you tested it? [10:00] mefrio, yes, popey test it yesterday [10:01] clepto, ok thanks...you are using the picture_files policy, right? [10:02] mefrio, no, I ditched it... I use context_exchange... do you create any folders or just pictures? [10:02] I'm having problem creating a folder [10:02] clepto, just pictures but I also need to read photos from other apps [10:04] mefrio, then you should use pictures_file [10:04] clepto, I don't understand why but it seems to not be secure to let a 3rd party app to have this policy [10:04] clepto, they should just check the code and see that it is ok instead of refusing me to use that [10:05] mefrio, I agree with you but in a larger scale they can't just check the coe [10:05] code* [10:05] clepto, yes but it's only my app in this case and it's only for the contest. I will implement the content hub APIs when they will be available [10:06] mefrio, you should comment in the feedback page and tell them [10:07] I did [10:07] I also wrote a mail to the mailing lists [10:07] and? [10:08] I am still waiting a response [10:11] :/ [10:15] Hi, myapps.developer.u.c rejects my uploads with 500 INTERNAL SERVER ERROR, https://ubuntuone.com/6dJ0IrWOAcyA3yp8QBaxdn — is that a known issue? [10:19] mitya57, it is from yesterday [10:21] After 6th try I was able to upload it (but without the source code) [10:21] source code is optional (i think) [10:23] I need someone to test a click pkg [10:23] :D [10:24] here's the pkg http://ubuntuone.com/6zF8D1uf562qYYdrDWLxVr [10:26] hm, on the app details page I have "Hardware requirements: PC Only" with no way to change that [10:26] which is weird [10:28] wellsb, ping [10:33] nik90_, ping [10:34] * mitya57 should have read G+ before asking questions [10:34] hey clepto, how you doing? :) [10:34] randomcpp, good, you? [10:35] good :) I'm a bit late on schedule, but I think I'll be able to submit a working app anyway [10:35] randomcpp, I have a problem with creating folders [10:35] it doesn't seem to work [10:35] so I can't store images [10:36] clepto, with the c++ plugin? [10:36] randomcpp, yes, in the pc works fine, but in the phone I don't think it does [10:37] clepto, I don't know, never tried on phone [10:37] clepto, do you have a phone running saucy? [10:37] randomcpp, no [10:38] :( [10:38] I'm waiting for someone with a phone to appear [10:38] me too [10:38] we all do :P [10:39] randomcpp, are you using u1db [10:39] ? [10:39] yep [10:40] unfortunately yes.. [10:40] for the u1db to work on phone it needs to add in the path ".db" [10:40] do you have it? [10:41] nope [10:41] but thanks for the tip :) [10:42] randomcpp, clepto: You have clicks you need tested? [10:42] wellsb, yes! [10:42] WebbyIT, yes! [10:42] wellsb, yes [10:42] oops [10:42] wellsb, here's the pkg http://ubuntuone.com/6zF8D1uf562qYYdrDWLxVr [10:43] clepto, I already had the extension :) [10:43] wellsb, you can find mine in the app lens (CNotes), test randomcpp's first :) [10:43] randomcpp, good [10:44] Anything in particular I should be testing? Or do you need just a basic functional test? [10:45] wellsb, that's the first click pkg I made [10:45] try everything [10:46] Will do [10:47] wellsb, note: category filtering doesn't work :( [10:49] randomcpp: it opens :) That's a good sign [10:49] wellsb, :D [10:49] wellsb, go directly to online search [10:49] there's a tab on top [10:50] If i search for and select a recipe, the loading message does not wrap to fit the screen [10:50] wellsb, I need to change it anyway [10:50] I need a better message [10:50] suggestions are welcome [10:51] Pictures load in search results, but not on the recipe page [10:52] wellsb, I'm screwed, there's an error when the recipe is downloaded [10:52] wellsb, is there a special policy to create folders and file? [10:53] i need to know that too [10:53] I think not [10:53] I don't think so, either [10:53] wellsb, if you run my app we'll see if we can create folders or not [10:54] wellsb, just open it and then see if the folder ~/Pictures/cnotes exists [10:54] wellsb, replace ~/ [10:55] wellsb, try create a category, then quit the app then load it again [10:55] is the category still there? [10:57] randomcpp: I have to restart my device. unity8 messed up, and now I can't open toolbars. Hopefully a reboot fixes it [10:57] I did notice the source button doesn't seem to do anything [10:57] clepto: I'll check that momentarily [10:57] wellsb, ok [10:58] wellsb, because anyone can't open links from within the app [10:58] clepto: I did notice your icon doesn't show up properly. Haven't looked at your .desktop file, but it should have a relative path to the icon [10:58] wellsb, dpm had told me to just leave it CNotes.png [10:58] ahh, that makes sense. So on the desktop, that would open the link in the browser [10:58] yep [10:59] That's what it should be. I'll check the source tree momentarily [11:01] randomcpp: Saved recipes are not persisting [11:02] I think clepto's tip about appending .db to the u1db path may resolve that issue [11:02] wellsb, I already have that [11:02] randomcpp, are you using OnDestruction maybe? [11:02] ahh. uh-oh [11:02] clepto, u1db are automatically saved when modified [11:03] randomcpp, yes but do you modify u1db onDesctruction? [11:03] clepto: Your notes aren't persisting either [11:03] wellsb, popey said yesterday that they are [11:04] wellsb, is the folder ~/Pictures/cnotes created? [11:04] Let me do a dist-upgrade and see if that helps [11:04] clepto, no [11:04] Should it have been created on first launch? If so, it wasn't [11:04] wellsb, the db should be saved in a ~/.config/SaucyBacon directory [11:05] as well as settings.json and recipe photos [11:05] No such directory in .config [11:05] wellsb, that's because we can write directory apparently [11:06] can't* [11:06] can't* [11:06] thanks clepto [11:06] ;) [11:07] sooo... images are not supported on phone! [11:07] whatever.. [11:08] but notes should be persistent... [11:09] I do see a db for cnotes in .local/share/Qt Project/QtQmlViewer [11:10] wellsb, what can I do know? I need to create folders :/ [11:10] me too [11:11] clepto: I stand corrected. Notes are persisting, they're just not loading when the app loads [11:11] If I go to add another note, and save it, then I see my previous notes [11:11] wellsb, oh [11:11] I think I know [11:11] That's a much easier bug to fix :) [11:11] wait a sec :) [11:14] wellsb, can you accept? https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/61/ [11:14] clepto: Your .desktop points to CNotes.png, but there's no CNotes.png in the root of your project [11:14] wellsb, [11:14] ok [11:14] wait to fix that too [11:15] clepto: Nope, I cannot [11:17] wellsb, then here http://ubuntuone.com/1qY7urOx3Uz23DH7XSevoM [11:17] beuno, ping [11:20] clepto: I see your icon now [11:20] and notes persist. Good job [11:21] wellsb, thanks! [11:22] pictures are not supported on photo, sadly [11:23] πηονε* [11:23] phone* [11:23] I'm kinda partial to the greek ;) [11:24] wellsb, is there anyone I can ask for help? :/ [11:24] wellsb, really? :D [11:26] randomcpp: Your database should work without having to write files [11:27] randomcpp, maybe you write files before the database is modified [11:27] wellsb, yeah but I'm trying to save the db in a .config subdir, where other files are saved [11:27] randomcpp, don't change the db path [11:27] randomcpp, it will change later [11:28] clepto, yeah but there are other files anyway [11:28] I only use the db to save recipes [11:28] settings, etc are in a json file [11:28] randomcpp, I know man, I using folder to store pictures [11:28] Use a db for settings, too? [11:29] beuno, https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/61/ accept please :) [11:29] wellsb, it's already slow with one db, with two it takes ages [11:29] Saving recipes is a pretty critical component of your app, so I'd try to get that working today. Saving pictures, etc, isn't quite as high a priority [11:33] wellsb, yeah but that's quite ridiculous.. [11:33] other noticeable bugs? [11:34] Not that I noticed right away [11:46] wellsb, http://ubuntuone.com/6zF8D1uf562qYYdrDWLxVr try this one [11:46] thaks [11:48] beuno, ping [11:54] randomcpp: Works like a charm, now [11:55] clepto, try add content_exchange for the directory thing [11:55] randomcpp, i have [11:55] randomcpp, does it work you with? [11:55] wellsb, categories are saved? [11:56] clepto, I haven't tried yet [11:56] ok [11:58] randomcpp: Categories are not saved [11:59] wellsb, thanks [11:59] randomcpp, so it doesn't work to you either? [12:00] clepto, a sec, I build a new click pkg [12:00] k [12:23] is there any member of the ubuntu security team? [12:26] mefrio: you can try #ubuntu-hardened but see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam [12:27] tsimpson, thank you [12:32] wellsb, can you try this one please? :) http://ubuntuone.com/6zF8D1uf562qYYdrDWLxVr [12:33] wellsb, tell me also if you can load photos from the phone [12:36] wellsb, try this http://ubuntuone.com/7LB2Cq7iceuMoG2PcxEqF1 and tell me if you can remove a note (press and hold on a note) [12:39] beuno or other app store person: I still can't upload my package, as it tells me I already have a click package by that name. I can't find one to delete or edit. Little help? [12:39] rschroll, change version on manifest and re-upload [12:40] This is the very first step, not the upload [12:40] oh [12:41] I went though the standard (not click) upload process by mistake with the same name. Perhaps that's causing problems, but I deleted that submission [12:53] rschroll: You don't see the app listed here: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/ [12:53] ? [13:18] wellsb, can you try this one please? :) http://ubuntuone.com/6zF8D1uf562qYYdrDWLxVr [13:54] Any app store admins around? [14:06] rschroll: wassup? [14:08] popey: I've managed wedge my developer account somehow. The first step of the app submission process, it tells me I already have a click package with the same name [14:08] I haven't submitted any click packages yet. [14:09] I did go through the regular submission process by mistake, but I deleted that submission [14:13] rschroll: I dont think I can help there, sorry. beuno ? === _5m0k3 is now known as wellsb [14:20] popey: thanks for testing TouchWriter! can you please try to run it from terminal and see if it prints anything when you press Save or Preview? [14:21] * mitya57 supposes that QStandardPaths::writableLocation() returns a location that isn't actually writable [14:23] mitya57: There seem to be issues with apparmor and the application itself disagreeing about which directories should be writable [14:23] If you're using U1DB, be sure to give it a filename with a .db extension [14:24] Otherwise, you may have to set QCoreApplication::organizationName and ::applicationName manually [14:24] mitya57: in a moment, yes [14:25] Launchpad bug #1224126 may be relevant [14:25] Launchpad bug 1224126 in apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu (Ubuntu Saucy) "qtdeclarative5-u1db1.0 should not use ~/.local/share/Qt Project for db files" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1224126 [14:28] rschroll: no, I'm not using U1DB (intentionally) for files storing [14:28] do you know if QFileInfo::isWritable() will return the correct value under apparmor? [14:29] I don't think it does, but I don't know for sure. [14:29] hmm, i can't start it manually, the aa-exec-click line seems screwy [14:29] Exec=aa-exec-click -p com.ubuntu.developer.mitya57.touchwriter_touchwriter_0.1 -- ./touchwriter [14:29] Can't exec "./touchwriter": No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/aa-exec line 122. [14:31] OK, I can just hardcode the ~/.local/share/touchwriter/ directory in the code — that should work, shouldn't it? [14:31] rschroll, the old and new app submissions aren't connected, AFAICT [14:32] beuno: I've managed to screw it up, nonetheless. (I have this power.) [14:33] mitya57: To use the default apparmor permissions, you need to write to ~/.local/share/, where is the full reverse domain name of your package [14:33] Probably com.ubuntu.developer.mitya57.touchwriter, or similar [14:34] You can also request additional write privileges in your apparmor profile [14:34] rschroll, ok, give me a little while and I'll try and sort it out. What's the app name? [14:34] beru [14:35] rschroll: Ok, thanks! What's the corresponding apparmor permission? Also, am I allowed to read ~/.config/touchwriter.conf? [14:35] can anyone test a click pkg? [14:35] beuno: There's nothing else (or at least there should be nothing else) in my account, so if you want to nuke the whole thing and make me start from scratch, that's fine [14:36] mitya57: I don't think so. For the full apparmor rules, check out /var/lib/apparmor/profiles/. Towards the end, it gives a list of places you can read and write [14:36] popey: It looks like the previews also didn't work — right? any ideas why? [14:37] mitya57: correct [14:37] popey, maybe you can try to run it just by specifying the full path (like /opt/apps.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mitya57.touchwriter/touchwriter)? [14:38] ah, no, I think I guess why that is not working... [14:38] ignore that, I'll fix that nwo [14:38] *now [14:40] any ubuntu phone dev? [14:40] mitya57: I see you're actually writing a fully compiled app. I suspect (though I'm not sure) that if you set QCoreApplication::organizationName to "" and QCoreApplication::applicationName to the full package name right at the beginning, writableLocation() will work. [14:41] or app policy expert or something like that [14:43] rschroll: no, I looked at qstandardpaths_unix.cpp and it parses user-dirs.dirs. Using DataLocation instead of DocumentsLocation should work, though [14:44] rschroll: re /var/lib/apparmor/profiles/: I can't read that file as I don't have the device :( [14:45] * mitya57 didn't yet manage to run Ubuntu on his Galaxy Note II [14:46] mitya57: You can install on the desktop, and you seem to get the same configuration as on the device. [14:46] Although maybe only on 13.10. I've been testing on a 13.10 desktop VM. [14:46] rschroll: thanks again, I will try that all [14:46] my last question is about this: "lint_control_architecture_valid_contents": "found binaries for architecture 'all': ", [14:47] Does that mean that I should rename click package from ..._all.click to ..._armhf.click? [14:47] or do something else? [14:48] rschroll, I see you created Beru as a click app, then deleted [14:49] rschroll, I've set it back to draft, you should see it in: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/ [14:52] beuno: Thanks a million. (I went part way through the creation process when the click app store was first announced. I thought when I abandoned it, it would just vanish. Then I must have deleted it when I though I was deleting the std app.) [14:53] beuno: Wait a sec. This one is "beruu", which I created when I was trying to troubleshoot. (And also subsequently deleted.) [14:53] (Same name, different package name. Just to confuse things further.) [14:56] beuno: And when I try to change the package name back to "beru", I get the same error as before. [14:57] rschroll, ok, I'll check again, one min [14:58] Thanks. Sorry for being your Fielding Melish. [14:59] rschroll, it's ok, we need to iron out all these glitches, so it's good to know about them [15:00] rschroll, ok! I foun the real Beru now, see now [15:00] beuno: One suggestion -- the error message about already having an app by that name should have a link to that app. This would have helped me avoid all these issues! [15:01] rschroll, noted, thanks [15:01] beuno: That's the one. Thanks. [15:02] ha! I forgot about the icon that I scribbled in gimp. [15:06] wellsb, ping [15:07] mefrio, did you see my comment on your app? [15:08] beuno, just now. How will you do that? [15:08] I mean, aren't judges going to download apps from the store? [15:09] mefrio, I can sort that out for them, explain that the store is still in beta and we're working out kinks [15:10] beuno, ok thank you very much :) [15:10] Hello eveyone!... I'm still trying to package my application (C++ & QML) into a click package... I've followed this guide http://notyetthere.org/?p=316 and I'm able to execute the application on the phone... the problem is with the package, I can't execute the installed version... [15:12] I got two icons of the game in the dash but none of them is working... How can I remove the installed app and retry? [15:12] mefrio: pong [15:12] wellsb, could you test a click package? [15:12] Certainly [15:12] wellsb, ok let me put it on u1 :) [15:15] wellsb, here it is: http://ubuntuone.com/4V8Xz9YWRHuBWvQKdQ7gtU I need to know if you can access the photos in your pictures folder [15:16] beuno, ping [15:16] okay. Let me put some photos in my pictures folder [15:17] wellsb, if you have time do the same with my app http://ubuntuone.com/6zF8D1uf562qYYdrDWLxVr also check if categories are now saved or not [15:17] thank you [15:18] randomcpp: Will do [15:18] randomcpp, pong [15:18] beuno, could you please review my app? https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/82/ :) [15:19] randomcpp, yummy! [15:19] sure thing [15:19] :D [15:19] 82 already? Wow. Successful showdown :) [15:21] mefrio: I can not read the files in my Pictures folder [15:21] wellsb, ok thank you :) [15:21] "security_policy_groups_safe (picture_files)": "(MANUAL REVIEW) reserved policy group 'picture_files': Can read and write to picture files. This policy group is reserved for certain applications, such as gallery applications. Developers should typically use the content_exchange policy group and API to access picture files instead." [15:21] wellsb, so if mefrio can't, my app can't too [15:21] randomcpp, ^ [15:22] "desktop_Exec (saucybacon)": "absolute path '/usr/bin/qmlscene -I ./modules/ ./app/saucybacon.qml' for Exec given in .desktop file.", [15:22] "desktop_Version (saucybacon)": "'0.1' does not match freedesktop.org version '1.0'", [15:22] randomcpp, nope man, I can xD [15:22] "desktop_validates (saucybacon)": "did not validate: (ValidationError in file '/tmp/clickreview-nywga5/saucybacon.desktop': \n- Key 'Encoding' is deprecated )" [15:22] randomcpp, ^ [15:22] and finally [15:22] randomcpp: Correct, I can't access them in yours either [15:22] "lint_control_architecture_valid_contents": "found binaries for architecture 'all': ", [15:22] "lint_maintainer_format": "invalid format for maintainer: Giulio Collura", [15:22] "lint_package_filename_pkgname_match": "'com.ubuntu.developer.gcollura.saucybacon.saucybacon' != 'com.ubuntu.developer.gcollura.saucybacon' from DEBIAN/control", [15:22] "lint_package_filename_version_match": "'0.1.0' != '0.1' from DEBIAN/control" [15:22] randomcpp, the maintainer needs to be "Your Name " [15:22] randomcpp, I see what happened with the namespace [15:23] randomcpp, I'll fix that for you [15:23] wellsb, can you try now? http://ubuntuone.com/4V8Xz9YWRHuBWvQKdQ7gtU [15:23] ok thanks [15:23] beuno: hi, what does "lint_control_architecture_valid_contents": "found binaries for architecture 'all': " mean? [15:23] beuno, I remove pictures_fles [15:24] beuno, should I upload a new pkg? [15:24] randomcpp: Recipes aren't saving at all anymore [15:24] wellsb, are categories saved? [15:25] randomcpp, yes please [15:25] randomcpp, the binary, is it arhmhf? [15:25] mefrio: u1 is giving me server errors, so i can't get that file right now [15:25] mitya57, it means the binary doesn't specify what architecture it is [15:25] beuno, yes it is [15:25] wellsb, ok no problems [15:26] randomcpp, k, than you can ignore the architecture one, I've got the namespace one, the rest are all yours. Be sure to bump the version when you upload [15:27] "desktop_Version (saucybacon)": "'0.1' does not match freedesktop.org version '1.0'", ? [15:27] beuno, ^ [15:27] beuno, please would you test this package? For some reason it is not working on my phone... http://ubuntuone.com/38LgWAtEdaLFMeTKElkuQH [15:27] mefrio: Try to re-upload your click. Other u1 links are working for me [15:27] wellsb, I haven't changed anything [15:27] swordfish, sure [15:27] it should read and save recipes as it did before [15:28] beuno: will adding "architecture": "armhf", to manifest.json help? [15:29] beuno: Submitted! Thanks for the help [15:29] mitya57, it would probably make the error go away, yes [15:29] rschroll, \o/ [15:29] wellsb, http://ubuntuone.com/31VMVqde1VdOA3tW8JbFXB [15:29] beuno: thank you! will reupload when the build finishes [15:30] "desktop_Exec (ubuntu-netwalk)": "found unexpected Exec with architecture 'all': ubuntu-netwalk" [15:30] swordfish, ^ [15:30] shell scripts don't run confined [15:30] not sure if that's a shell script or the binary [15:30] the support for compiled apps isn't quite there yet, a lot of rough edges [15:31] beuno, it's the binary... In the desktop i simply wrote the name of the executable... [15:31] beuno, uploaded 0.1.1 [15:31] mefrio: that link works, but I still can't read pictures folder [15:31] swordfish, and the app just doesn't run? [15:31] randomcpp, ack [15:31] * beuno needs to step out for 20 [15:32] mefrio: The picture is a .png. Should I try a different one? [15:32] beuno... the compiled application worked in its folder (after the compilation)... Then when it is installed it wont... [15:32] wellsb, no, .png should work :( [15:32] beuno, i tested manually launching the binary from the terminal... [15:35] popey, ping [15:36] mefrio: pong [15:37] popey, I am still having some problems with reading photos from the pictures folder...could you try this? http://ubuntuone.com/31VMVqde1VdOA3tW8JbFXB [15:37] popey, I only need to know if it can read photos from the pictures folder [15:37] ya [15:40] beuno, now I'm trying changes in the desktop file... How can I remove the click package from the phone? [15:44] swordfish, I don't really know, and I don't have a test device handy today [15:44] that's a cjwatson style question [15:45] beuno, what does this mean? "desktop_Version (saucybacon)": "'0.1.1' does not match freedesktop.org version '1.0'" [15:45] mefrio: http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-164523.png [15:45] mefrio: it got a picture from my Pictures folder [15:45] popey, ok thank you :) is camera still rotated? [15:45] randomcpp, that in the .desktop file, it should be 1.0, not your app's version [15:46] mefrio: no [15:46] beuno, ahhhhhhh [15:46] popey, ok thank you again :) [15:46] http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-164613.png [15:46] thank you :) [15:46] mefrio: Is he testing the same version I was testing? [15:46] wellsb, yes [15:46] http://ubuntuone.com/31VMVqde1VdOA3tW8JbFXB is what I tested [15:46] hmm [15:47] popey, beuno: uploaded TouchWriter 1.1, review/testing welcome! [15:47] popey, can you try this please? http://ubuntuone.com/1erx42VGZfdf1jDar0IzCq [15:47] clepto, as popey stated the fix I posted for the camera works :) [15:47] heh, one at a time ☻ [15:47] mitya57: ok [15:47] mitya57: uploaded where? I don't see it under review [15:48] beuno, how should it be? "desktop_Exec (saucybacon)": "absolute path '/usr/bin/qmlscene -I ./modules/ ./app/saucybacon.qml' for Exec given in .desktop file.", [15:48] rschroll, reviewed. Unfortunately, I can't approve with the special permission request [15:48] rschroll, it should be a relative path instead [15:49] randomcpp, "qmlscene -I .modules/ app/saucybacon.qml" [15:49] *"qmlscene -I modules/ app/saucybacon.qml" [15:49] ok thz [15:49] thx [15:49] popey: how can I change the state from Needs information to Pending review? [15:50]