[01:34] <belkinsa> So, what will be the plan after the OLF in the team?
[02:05] <BiosElement> ^good question /hasnoclue
[02:09] <belkinsa> Also, I will ask this on the mailing-list.
[02:56] <drkokandy> I didn't actually crowd around after the talk thafreak lol
[02:57] <belkinsa> Had a good time?
[02:57] <drkokandy> yes, thanks!
[02:58] <belkinsa> Now, it really makes me want to go.
[02:58] <belkinsa> Next year, I gues.s
[02:58] <drkokandy> You should go next year - I've been to the last two, and since I was still quite new to Linux last year, it was a big help and eye-opener
[02:59] <belkinsa> Yeah, though I think I need to find folks to meet down in the Greater Cinci area to meet first.
[03:02] <drkokandy> There's a general (not Ubuntu-specific) Linux Users Group in Cincinnati - http://clug.org/ - I don't know anything about them, but I've been attending meetings at the Akron LUG when I can just for some extra info and meeting other local FOSS enthusiasts
[03:02] <jenni> [ Cincinnati Linux User Group ] - https://j.mp/165Fldv
[03:02] <belkinsa> Thanks, I wilook into it
[03:03] <drkokandy> I think there was also a Documentation conference in Cincinnati... not sure if that is an annual thing or just one time
[03:04] <belkinsa> I might also look around on UC's main campus.  I'm a student.
[03:04] <drkokandy> woah, paultag... this XMir stuff is pretty scary
[03:04] <drkokandy> that would work too I bet
[03:05] <belkinsa> Yeah, but I need to stop hiding in the Tower studying for my classes.  :)
[03:05] <paultag> drkokandy: :)
[03:05] <Unit193> drkokandy: Tried it, not my favorite bug.
[03:06] <drkokandy> makes me not want to try it. They have to plan to resolve this before 13.10 release, right?
[03:07] <Unit193> Yep, but they've generally fallen behind schedule.  19th is when they plan to ship it in the daily images.
[03:08] <paultag> but jono was pushing people to use this shit
[03:08] <paultag> and they knew it was buggy in this way
[03:08] <paultag> I don't get it
[03:08] <Unit193> It's a PR stunt, he's a PR man, do the math.  He was pushing for it at the Xubuntu meeting couple months back, not giving a ton of real info either.
[03:10] <drkokandy> he was running it on the machine he was using to present from... fortunately he never opened a terminal. Unfortunately we did have one "Ubuntu 13.10 has experienced an error..."
[03:11] <Unit193> Ctrl+Alt+F1 isn't common in presentations. ;)
[03:11] <drkokandy> well, right
[03:13] <paultag> but it is if your xmir locks up
[03:13] <Unit193> drkokandy: It's fine to try, just not great to use.  The other fun bug was when you shutdown, it'd show you everything typed in the session on screen. :D
[03:13] <paultag> you can't debug shit if it crashes
[03:14] <drkokandy> woah, that's crazy too. Lots of work to do
[03:15] <Unit193> That one is fixed.
[03:15] <drkokandy> oh, well that's good
[03:16] <Unit193> I link the video of it "working" yet?
[03:20] <Unit193> Anyway, it's not just security issues, compatibility as well.
[03:23] <drkokandy> yeah, we'll see
[03:26] <Unit193> It's easy to remove if you use Ubuntu, if you use a flavor it doesn't matter.
[03:27] <belkinsa> Skellat: Thanks for updating the wiki page about the ReLoCo's.
[04:18] <BiosElement> Heh, apparently bugs in unreleased beta software are capital crimes, but bugs in released software in dozens of distros aren't bugs. ;P Gotta love the logic.
[04:22] <paultag> BiosElement: Um?
[04:23] <paultag> BiosElement: a *severe* security issue like this isn't really something that you'd ever see in any other software
[04:23] <paultag> BiosElement: in addition, when you have a *severe* issue like this, you don't get people to *run* it
[04:23] <paultag> (gotta love that logic?)
[04:23] <paultag> Right, time to head out. Clown love.
[04:27] <BiosElement> ...right. Apparently I have different standards for beta software.