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kostkonwilee-nilee, just update the lines, replace with 'saucy', then apt-get update. you might get a warning from some that their pcakges are not available for saucy, ignore it for now, and then apt-get upgrade00:01
kostkondaaamn00:01
kostkonalastor__, ^^^00:01
izinucsI just installed 12.04 64bit on an older quad core. I can boot into the desktop, click the menu and have it open.. it won't take any other input.  going to tty2 I get a message on screen "out of frequency" so I can''t edit any config files.. how do I resolv this?00:02
wilee-nileethat does not help to learn what should be done00:02
OerHeksor just test sudo apt-get update and use paste.ubuntu.com for the errors00:02
OerHeksalastor__, ^00:02
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Thursdayis there a lot of people on this channel because a lot of people are having problems and bugs with their Ubuntu?00:04
izinucsThursday: no.. people do lots of different things and don't know everything about everything00:04
kostkonThursday, ask the same question in #ubuntu-offotopic. this is strictly only for support00:05
OerHeksThursday, having issues and wanting information00:05
HodappThere being a lot of people in this channel, and there being a lot of people having problems/bugs with Ubuntu, are probably correlated, not causative. The causative factor is probably the number of people using Ubuntu.00:05
OerHekslurking here is a good start00:06
wilee-nileeizinucs, I would update/upgrade and then check the additional drivers00:06
kostkonizinucs, did you use the latest 12.04.3 iso?00:07
izinucswilee-nilee: can't do that because I can't see anything at the tty terminal screen and the gui stops accepting input00:07
izinucskostkon: yes.. just downloaded it..00:07
kostkonizinucs, ok. just checkin00:07
wilee-nileeizinucs, try ctrl-alt-t for a terminal on the desktop00:07
TeknoNo wire all gone00:08
izinucswilee-nilee: tried ctrl+alt+f2 instead of using the gui and can't see anything.. Frequency out of Range..error00:08
izinucswilee-nilee: ctrl-alt-t will open the terminal window but will not accept input00:09
wilee-nileeizinucs, I thought you had a desktop with some control IE the menu.00:09
izinucswilee-nilee: only to the first click.. after that no additional input is accepted.00:09
wilee-nileeizinucs, you can run a update from the recovery terminal00:10
izinucswilee-nilee: how do I get to that.. on boot right?00:10
kostkonizinucs, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode00:10
wilee-nileeizinucs, You might just have a bad install, hard to say at this point.00:10
izinucswilee-nilee: seems to be somewhat know, a grub issue with 12.04 .. might have to use a rescue cd to edit :(00:11
izinucsbrb00:12
wilee-nileeizinucs, If this is a fresh install I would not mess with trying to fix it myself, I would confirm the sum of the iso and do another install, if you find errors.00:13
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kostkonizinucs, also you could download 13.04 and compare the results. although, sticking with12.04 would be better as it is an lts release00:14
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rayguscan someone help with trying to get vaapi working in mythtv. When I attempt playback everthing freezes00:25
iljuschinthank you kostkon , for your advice and help! leaving now, good night/day! :)00:25
iljuschinDr_Willis seems to have left already00:26
kostkoniljuschin, have a nice day/night. bye00:26
iljuschinbye00:26
rayguscan someone help with trying to get vaapi working in mythtv. When I attempt  video playback it freezes00:26
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wilee-nileeraygus, I see #mythtv-users you might try there as well.00:36
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anshinhas anyone used wmctrl?00:44
Guest86943hello which version do you recommend the 13.04 or 12.04?00:46
kostkonGuest86943, 12.04. Supported for 5 years until 201700:47
anshinkostkon: how long will 13.04 be supported? I didn't know there had been a change00:49
Guest86943thank you kostkon00:49
kostkonanshin, only a few months left i think. support period is sort for it, only 8 months00:49
Guest86943what is the real difference?00:49
qin!13.0400:49
ubottuUbuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ - Release notes: http://ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/13.0400:49
Guest86943i see no one..00:50
sadcat198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   097   097   000    Old_age   Offline      -       12300:50
sadcatbuy a new drive?00:50
wilee-nileesadcat, What does the smart check in disks say?00:51
honestlysupport period for 13.04 won't end before 13.10 is released, will it?00:51
Tex_Nickhonestly: no00:52
sadcatlong test says read failure00:52
sadcatthere are 62 ata errors and 120 reallocated sectors00:52
sadcati think this drive is going to die00:52
wilee-nileesadcat, I would not use it myself.00:52
wilee-nileehonestly, The bots links have those answers.00:53
sadcatso i need to buy a new one and hope that the raid can be restored without an error00:55
Tex_Nicksadcat : i've been using a 2.5" WD 360GB drive ... that SMART says is likely to fail ... on the grandkids box for about a year now without problem ... wilee-nilee's advice is more than wise though !!!00:57
rypervenchesadcat: Replace the drive ASAP and backup anything that is important.00:58
sadcatthe data on the storage is not that important. i  dont care a lot about a few TB of movies00:58
sadcatbut since the values of other disks of the raid are not that good i'll better replace it00:59
wilee-nileeIf you have backups of what you want to save you can do anything really, covering your booty is the goal.01:00
kostkonsadcat, dont care about TBs of movies? wow01:03
OldTexasLast night a feller gave me a name of a file to go for help with a wireless card n' I done up n' fergot what it was.  Dishwasher or somethin' like that.01:04
kostkon!ndiswrapper | OldTexas01:04
ubottuOldTexas: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:04
sadcatmy internet is fast enough to download all of them in a week or so01:05
kostkonsadcat, nice01:05
kostkonsadcat, how fast01:05
sadcat10MB/s up and down01:05
kostkonsadcat, ie ~100mbits?01:05
OldTexasndiswrapper!!!  Thankie.  Gotta admit, it kinda sounds like "diswasher" :)01:05
sadcatyes01:06
kostkonsadcat, nice nice01:06
sadcatthe problem is to collect all the uploaded/[whatever oneclickhoster] links01:06
kostkonsadcat, i always keep some in a text file ;)01:06
kostkonOldTexas, it does, but just a little bit01:07
sadcatthe first thing i should do is to ls -alR the mountpoint01:07
kostkonsadcat, good idea01:08
belkinsaIs there a way to have PluseAudio to remember what volume level you had headphones plugged in after you disconnect them?01:16
kostkonbelkinsa, you could try installing pavucontrol and setting the volume level for your headphones from there01:18
kostkonbelkinsa, because in the ubuntu volume settings you can only change the master volume01:18
kostkonubuntu sound settings*01:19
kostkonbelkinsa, your headphones need to be connected to do that01:19
snine@search colin mochrie01:25
Draginwhere should I go for 13.10 help for running an apache server?01:26
draganim having problem installing g++ in ubuntu 13.0401:26
Dragindid you try sudo apt-get install g++?01:27
DraginApparently there are no helpers in here =(01:28
draganyes01:28
draganand i got ths The following packages have unmet dependencies:  g++ : Depends: g++-4.7 (>= 4.7.2-1~) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.01:29
belkinsaJust wait, someone will come and help you.  In the meanwhile, check the forums and ask Ubuntu.01:29
kostkonDragin, #ubuntu+101:29
Draginbeen doing that for a couple of days now, belinska, but thanks =)01:30
belkinsaOkay, just keep waiting. You will get your answer.01:30
Draginerr... belkinska too ;)01:30
Draginbeen having typos for days =(01:31
belkinsaIf you have the question on ask Ubuntu, I can bump it up for you.01:31
belkinsaIt's cool.01:31
belkinsaWait, is that allowed?01:31
Draginno, I have plenty of time. Been working the learning curve lol01:31
belkinsaNew user of Ubuntu?01:32
Draginyes, and no01:32
Draginnew user that decided to get serious because I have made some headway lol01:32
Draginnot new user because I have been tinkering with it since 8.xx01:33
belkinsaI understand.  I'm the same.  I'm using it for four years now and just now i'm starting to get back into the community.01:33
belkinsaTinkering it, I might soon.01:33
belkinsaAs for*01:33
DraginI used to be good with DOS... back when Windows was still in its infancy... 3.11 ;)01:33
belkinsaSame here!  I was very young when my family had 3.1.01:34
DraginI watch a lot of Nixie Pixel on YouTube. She's hot and smart ;)01:34
green_geeky_dudeI wasn't so young "sniffle"01:34
Draginme either lol01:34
Dragin49 here ;)01:34
DraginI is an old fart ;)01:34
green_geeky_dudeLOL not yet01:35
Draginlol01:35
belkinsaI think I was four to eight when we had it.01:35
belkinsaSo, 1995-1998?01:35
* Dragin does some quick calculations...01:35
green_geeky_dude<- hides under the desk while he burns his birth certificate01:35
ThalinVien!offtopic01:36
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:36
Dragin\/me caries the 3, and subtracts the five...01:36
belkinsaSorry, ThalinVien for going off topic.01:36
green_geeky_dudemy bad01:36
derriki cant remember how to identify to chanserv01:36
derrikhelp?01:36
Draginsounds about right belkinsa ;)01:36
ThalinVienderrik: /msg nickserv help identify01:37
belkinsaidentify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.01:37
derrikthanks!01:37
Dragintype .msg NickServe Identify <password>01:37
Draginjust like it said ;)01:37
fungoatWhat's everyone using for a podcatcher?01:37
lapt0p_How to recover from a person you would die for?01:38
belkinsa!offtopic01:38
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:38
lapt0p_hahaha, just kiddin :)01:38
falktxI just found out one thing that works in irc that is kinda a secret01:38
falktxif you write ".pw password" your password gets like ***01:38
falktxlet me try...01:38
OldTexasWell, I found the driver n' a install.sh.  I can hear the cluckin' but I can't find the nest.  Made a drivers directory n' opened i up in there.   ///home/thid/n'/that/install.sh   then tried it with file: ///ect...  Won't crank.01:38
falktx.pw *******01:38
falktxha! works!01:39
FloodBot1falktx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:39
DraginI somehow locked my server so that it won't let me access localhost =(01:40
OldTexasHonest, I'm 'bout as confused as a termite in a yoyo.01:41
DraginI have chmod 755 /var/www -R, then rebooted, but no help. then I chmod 777 /var/www -R and still no go01:42
Draginany ideas anyone?01:42
DEdesigns57hello all, is this the main ubuntu channel01:42
DEdesigns57?01:42
belkinsaYes, for support.01:42
Draginseems to be01:42
DEdesigns57awsome thx01:43
DEdesigns57just installed this OS01:43
belkinsaAnd your question is?01:43
falktxDragin: shouldn't "-R" come before the path?01:43
belkinsaAnd welcome to the world of Ubuntu.01:43
DraginUbuntu is by far the best and easiest distro I have used... and I have tried a LOT of distros! lol01:43
Dragintbh, I really don't know falktx. The web site I saw showed it last01:44
falktxDragin: I've always used it before the path and it works for me01:44
Draginok. I will try that and see what happens. thanks falktx01:45
falktxDragin: perhaps using "sudo chown user:user -R /path" is an option too?01:45
DraginI did the sudo... kinda figured that was a given ;)01:45
superjoeI filed this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreplaygain/+bug/122555701:45
ubottuUbuntu bug 1225557 in libreplaygain (Ubuntu) "gives bogus values" [Undecided,New]01:45
superjoenot sure if it's on topic in this channel, but just wanted to check if anyone knows anything relevant and could give hints01:45
belkinsaMainly on what?01:46
superjoelibreplaygain (package included in ubuntu's repository) seems to be giving me bogus values01:46
DextromeHey peeps. I gotta a slight problem. I needed to have my laptop power on tomorrow morning to wake me up. I set it up in the BIOS, and set it to log me in automatically, disabling my password and setting it to auto-log in under the User Account settings. But now my old password that I would use for authenticating things (like installing an alarm clock app) won't work, and I can't unlock the User Account settings to fix it01:46
belkinsaLike what?01:46
superjoelike 001:47
dragani just changed sftware sources from serbia to main server and got 200 mb of updates i hope that i will be able to install build-essentials and g++ after update01:47
superjoeno matter the input01:47
belkinsaHave you read the doc for the program?01:47
wilee-nileeDextrome, disabled your password?01:47
OldTexasQuestion... I got this wireless card, got the drivers for Linux from Realtek, created a drivers directory offa the Home directory, unzipped it in there and sure enough, there's a install.sh, but I'll be danged if I can come up with the command to use the file...01:47
superjoebelkinsa, at least 8 times01:47
Dextromewilee-nilee, yes01:47
wilee-nileenot a good idea01:47
Dextromewilee-nilee, I only needed it to wake me up in the morning, but now I can't authenticate anything01:48
wilee-nileeDextrome, not sure of a fix.01:48
Dextromewilee-nilee, ha, oh well. I've been wanting to do a new clean install anyway. Thanks anyway01:49
OldTexasIs it sudo /dir/dir/dir/install.sh?01:49
DraginI typed sudo chmod 755 -R /var/www, it went to next line... (after pw of course...) then I typed sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart tp restart the server... Still getting the You don't have permission to access / on this server when I try going to localhost or the actual web site =(01:49
bwayneOldTexas: the command is the install.sh file itself. you'll want to 'chmod +x install.sh' to make sure it's executable. Then 'sudo ./install.sh' if you're sure you want to install it.01:49
cipherboyHey, in Cinnamon running on Ubuntu 13.04, any tips and tricks to getting extensions to work? I have logged out and logged back in twice since enabling two different extension and it still has not applied.01:49
OldTexasby gotcha, and thanks.  One last question, what is the change directory command in Linuz01:50
OldTexasby gotcha, and thanks.  One last question, what is the change directory command in Linux01:51
kostkon!cinnamon | cipherboy01:51
Dextromewilee-nilee, you know anything I can do to install this alarm clock app that I stll neep installed?01:51
kostkon:/01:51
bwayneOldTexas: 'cd <directory_name>'01:51
belkinsa./cd is the command01:51
OldTexasduh...01:51
belkinsa;)01:51
wilee-nileecipherboy, This cinnamon from ubuntu or a ppa?01:51
OldTexasSorry guys  That was funny.  TY01:51
cipherboyUbuntu01:51
bwayneOldTexas: no duh's. We're not here to duh you.01:51
belkinsalol01:52
belkinsaDon't worry, we have those moments.01:52
OldTexasbwayne,  I'm an old DOS dog tryin' to learn new tricks :)01:52
reisiosed s@\\\\@/@01:53
geniiOldTexas: You might find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal useful01:53
bwayneOldTexas: you may find this helpful. http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/unix_for_dos_users.html01:53
kostkonOldTexas, at least some commands are the same, e.g. cd01:53
reisioIME DOS users know about five of those DOS commands :p01:54
Dextromewilee-nilee, I fixed it with the passwd command01:54
bwaynereisio: I doubt that. I've seen some pretty advanced bat files.01:54
reisiobwayne: for DOS and not Windows?01:55
OldTexasbwayne Bless you...  the ROSSETA STONE!!01:55
* Dragin is an Old DOS dog too... Also a TEXAN and Proud of it =)01:55
bwaynereisio: for pre-NT era Windows.01:55
OldTexasdragan, there ya go :)01:55
reisio:p01:56
bwayneOldTexas: no prob01:56
bwaynei suppose speaking of posh scripts is verboten.01:57
OldTexasAre directory names case sensitive?01:59
bwayneOldTexas: you'll find that the linux shell is extremely powerful and flexible. far more so than DOS or CMD.01:59
bwayneOldTexas: yes01:59
jribOldTexas: yes01:59
Draginyes01:59
kostkonOldTexas, y01:59
OldTexascool01:59
kostkon!tab | OldTexas, just a tip01:59
ubottuOldTexas, just a tip: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.01:59
bwayneOldTexas: the filesystem itself is case-sensitive. foo and foO are different.02:00
OldTexasHmmm... like doskey02:00
Hodappugh, doskey.02:01
OldTexasbwayne, that could be very handy02:01
OldTexasHodapp, LOL :)02:01
LrdArci can't connect to wifi with this description --> http://pastebin.com/vzLMUrDa02:01
LrdArci used wifi card Intel Corporation WiFi Link 510002:01
OldTexasls02:02
OldTexasoops02:02
kostkonOldTexas, no, dir02:02
kostkon:P02:02
DraginI typed sudo chmod 755 -R /var/www, it went to next line... (after pw of course...) then I typed sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart tp restart the server... Still getting the You don't have permission to access / on this server when I try going to localhost or the actual web site =(02:02
kostkonOldTexas, dir woks too, just doesn't do any highlighting or something02:03
Draginls is the Linux dir DOS command ;)02:03
cheshircat-> Dragin try verifying the perms with ls -l in the var directory02:04
bwaynedir --color02:04
kostkonbwayne, nice02:04
OldTexasYah, ls has purdy colors :)   Had and old dos program like that called hotdir, with colors.  Got it off a Big Blue Disk.   If anyone remembers those... you are an old f*cker like me :)02:04
Dragincheshircat Ummm... I am a newb... Does anything go with that command?02:04
Draginoh, wait... I THINK I understand.02:05
cheshircatno, just make sure you're in the /var directory02:05
* nevyn had 4dos back in the day02:05
Draginthat is what I thought lol02:05
Draginthanks02:05
Draginbrb02:05
nevynOldTexas: ^^02:05
DraginNICE little command that! ;)02:06
OldTexasbwayne indeed... dir --color looks just like ls02:06
nevynls --color02:06
cipherboySo anyone have suggestions on cinnamon or not?02:06
cheshircatI actually think it might be chmod -R 777 /var/www, not 777 -R02:06
cheshircator 75502:06
wilee-nileecipherboy, What are these extensions you speak of?02:07
cheshircatalso, on ubuntu you should use services, not daemon scripts --> sudo service apache2 restart02:07
cipherboyCoverflow Alt-Tab and Wobbly windows, both off of the cinnamon extension site.02:07
OldTexasnevyn,  ever use desqview :)02:07
DraginThis is saying that folder is root access, correct? drwxr-xr-x  3 root 4096 Sep 14 20:46 www02:08
Draginif so, EVERYTHING says root =(02:08
Draginok02:08
cheshircathmmm02:08
bwayneOldTexas: you can find out just about everything about a command by reading its man page. 'man <command>'02:09
Draginshould I pastebin that stuff?02:09
OldTexasWow, command line cut n' paste.02:09
Draginit is about 15 or 20 lines02:09
nevynOldTexas: know what it was never used it...02:09
OldTexascool beans bwayne02:09
wilee-nileecipherboy, I did not know they had added extensions, must be the gnome-shell extensions tweaked, not sure myself of the problems, you might as in a mint channel as well.02:10
cheshircatfor ls -l, just the permissions on /var/www are fine, the rest doesn't matter02:10
publicwasup02:10
cipherboyThanks, will do.02:10
Draginok... Except if you go to my web site, I think you'll get a 403 Forbidden error02:11
cheshircatfirst make sure it isn't port forwarded, then try to chmod to 77702:11
Draginit IS port forwarded02:11
cheshircatah02:11
Draginthat is bad?02:11
cheshircatthen setting write access is a bad idea02:11
cheshircatYOU'RE good02:12
OldTexasnevyn,  at one time, many, many years ago, on a planet far far away... No, wait, that's another story.   A few years ago I had an 8 line RBBS BBS with and Artisoft lan and two lines per PC with Desqview.  Shut down my last node Jan 1, 2000.  :(02:12
DraginI still sucketh that chmod understanding =(02:12
Draginthat = at02:12
cheshircatso, it doesn't work for localhsot02:12
Draginnope. Nor for the web site... try it?02:12
cheshircattry chowning /var/www to www-data02:13
cheshircatI'm to lazy to man the chown command, so you'll have to figure out the syntax yourself02:13
cheshircatthe apache2 process should run as the user www-data02:14
crocketWhen I move a mouse cursor in video players in fullscreen mode, unity appeared on top for a short time.02:14
crocketI found a workaround for this issue.02:14
crockethttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1156327/comments/402:14
Draginsudo chown  /var/www  /var/www-data?02:14
ubottuUbuntu bug 1156327 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity shown over fullscreen VLC video" [Undecided,Confirmed]02:14
b0xchown -R www-data:www-data /home/$USER/public_html;02:14
cheshircatno, www-data is a user02:14
Draginnever seen a chown with other than numbers02:14
cheshircatchown is different than chmod02:14
crocketDoes anyone experience the same issue as I did?02:15
cheshircatman it02:15
usr13Dragin: Why not just serve from a /home/user directory?02:15
Dragindoh!02:15
b0xfind /home/$USER/public_html -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;02:15
b0xfind /home/$USER/public_html -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;02:15
b0xetc02:15
Draginsorry... I just realiuzed that was a chown and not a chmod lol02:15
usr13Dragin: apache follows symlinks by default.02:15
usr13(easier solution)02:15
cheshircatbut that wouldn't solve a permissions issue02:15
usr13cheshircat: What?02:16
cheshircathis issue is with a 403 error02:16
usr13cheshircat: What do you mean?  It's not a user that accesses them?02:16
OldTexascompile make error 2   pfft02:16
Draginusr13 actually that is what I want to do... still figuring this out. Old mind and VERY rusty... Needs a bit of axle grease ;)02:17
cheshircatnow I'm confused, why would pointing the apache2 daemon at a home directory fix a permissions issue?02:17
usr13Dragin: Try it and see.  mkdir /home/Dragin/public_html  ; sudo ln -s /home/Dragin/public_html /var/www/site1 ;  cat /home/Dragin/public_html/index.html [Enter] <html>Hello world!</html> ; firefox localhost/site102:18
draganas i taught after changing sftware sources from serbia to main server im able to install build-essential02:19
usr13Dragin: It works, trust me.02:19
usr13Dragin: By default your directories will be 755 and files 644 and that will work for  you.02:20
Draginthanks =)02:20
cheshircatwell, sorry I lead you down the wrong track02:20
Psil0Cybinhey guys im having a wierd problem my wifi says im connected02:21
Psil0Cybinbut im not getting internet02:21
Psil0Cybinbut oin my other computer the net works fine02:21
Psil0Cybinwhat can i do to fix this? its wierd02:21
ahow628@psil: Are you using DHCP or are you assigning IPs?02:22
usr13Dragin: Directories will be drwxrwxr-x and files will be -rw-r--r--02:22
usr13... which is default....02:22
fmheey02:22
usr13Psil0Cybin: route -n   #Do you see your gateway router's IP?02:23
Psil0Cybinyea02:23
Psil0Cybini do02:23
usr13Psil0Cybin: cat /etc/resolv.conf   #Do you again see your gateway router's IP, or a valid nameserver?02:23
belkinsaFM, you have a question?02:23
usr13Psil0Cybin: host av.com    #To test your ability to resolve domain names.02:24
belkinsaDoes anyone know if the app "Radio Tray" is still being developed?02:24
Psil0Cybinit says02:24
Psil0Cybinname server 127.0.0.102:24
Psil0Cybinsearch home02:24
usr13Psil0Cybin: ping -c3 8.8.8.8    #To test your ability to ping a nameserver.02:24
wilee-nilee!enter | Psil0Cybin02:25
ubottuPsil0Cybin: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!02:25
usr13Psil0Cybin: Can you ping 8.8.8.8  ?02:25
Psil0Cybinno02:25
Psil0Cybin3 packets transmitted 0 recieved 100% packet loss02:25
usr13Psil0Cybin: Really?   Are you using a proxy server?02:25
Psil0Cybinno...02:25
DraginI type this... ~public_html -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; and I get this... ln: accessing ‘ype’: No such file or directory02:26
usr13Psil0Cybin: Can you ping the router's IP?02:26
usr13Psil0Cybin: ping -c3  192.168.1.1   #Or what ever the router's IP is.02:26
Psil0Cybinno not successfully02:26
Psil0Cybinit does not pin02:26
Psil0Cybinping but the internet will start working randomly02:26
Psil0Cybinand then disconncet again02:26
belkinsa!enter02:26
Psil0Cybin:S02:26
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usr13Psil0Cybin: ifconfig |grep Bcast   #What IP do you have?02:27
usr13Psil0Cybin: What does it say after "inet addr:"02:27
Psil0CybinBcast: 192.168.2.255 Mask: 255.255.255.002:28
usr13Psil0Cybin: (Is it an IP that is in the same subnet as your router?02:28
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usr13Psil0Cybin: Is this a wireless connection>?02:28
Psil0Cybinwell my router ip is 192.168.2.102:28
Psil0Cybinand its a wireless connection02:28
Psil0Cybinand i think so because its all one router.02:28
usr13Psil0Cybin: iwconfig    #What is link quality?02:29
Psil0Cybinit was working before but i installed samba and after that this happened, it will sayt im connected....internet will work ill start downloading but my downloads stop02:29
Psil0Cybinso i freaked out uninstalled samba02:29
Psil0Cybinand same problem, but before this never happend02:29
Psil0CybinLink Quality 70/7002:29
usr13Psil0Cybin: I do not know why samba would make a difference.02:29
Psil0CybinSignal level =-26dBm02:29
Psil0Cybinthats why im confused usr1302:29
usr13Psil0Cybin: What is the IP of your router?02:30
Psil0Cybinhow this happend all of a sudden02:30
usr13Oh, never mind.02:30
Psil0Cybin192.168.2.102:30
usr13Psil0Cybin: So you can not ping 192.168.2.1?02:30
Psil0Cybinno :S02:30
K1rkAnybody feel like a friendly game of Wolfenstein Enemy Territory? :)02:30
K1rkI've got a few people on.02:30
K1rkIt runs on Ubuntu!02:30
usr13Psil0Cybin: I don't know then.  Mabye power-cycle the router.02:30
Psil0Cybinyou think it can be the router?02:31
belkinsa!offtopic02:31
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:31
belkinsaTo K1rk02:31
usr13Psil0Cybin: What did I just say?02:31
Psil0Cybinbut my other computers work fine02:31
Psil0Cybinokay02:31
usr13Psil0Cybin: I don't know then.  Mabye power-cycle the router.02:31
K1rkbelkinsa: yeah I suppose.02:31
K1rklol02:31
ahow628Anyone know how to uninstall the update-manager gui? I have an underpowered laptop and only want to use CLI to update as GUI locks up intermittently.02:33
usr13Psil0Cybin: If that doesn't work, you might try rebooting the Ubuntu PC.  (Could be that the routing tables have somehow become corrupted.) (You never know.)  One other thing I can think of is that the WiFi device may have gone haywire.  Is it very close to the wireless-router?02:35
wilee-nileeahow628, It's gotta be part of a meta group, just don;t use it, maybe try a light desktop.02:35
ahow628@wilee-nilee: Ok, thanks. I was hoping to dump it but oh well.02:36
wilee-nileeahow628, You can tab complete nicks here, be careful with just picking at the desktop.02:37
sixpkshello02:37
belkinsaHello,02:37
sixpksI am looking for some guidance on Upstart02:37
belkinsaQuestion?02:38
bwayneahow628: you can click on 'Settings' you can choose to never check for updates.02:38
usr13sixpks: Ok,  What do you need to know?02:38
sixpksI have 4 services running on my ubuntu 12.04 lts box02:38
ahow628wilee-nilee: Ah, very nice on the tab complete. I might switch to xfce. I did never check, but when I 'apt-get update' the window pops up.02:38
sixpksMysql, mongo,tomcat7 and apache202:38
wilee-nileeahow628, lxde/lubuntu is even lighter02:39
sixpksI see that mongo and mysql have conf files in init-- So I can add the respawn line in there02:39
sixpksso that they can resatrt when ever they crash02:39
usr13sixpks: If you do not keep all one one line, your information will be fragmented up and down and will be hard to follow what you are saying.  (Don't use Enter for punctuation.)02:39
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usr13sixpks: service02:40
usr13sixpks: See;   man service02:40
ahow628wilee-nilee: It is a CR-48 with Chromebuntu completely removed and Ubuntu only. Unity runs ok, but I think lxde might be overkill (underkill?)02:40
usr13sixpks: Why would *they* crash?02:40
sixpksOOM02:40
ahow628wilee-nilee: *chromeos I mean.02:40
usr13sixpks: What does OOM mean?02:40
sixpksout of memory error02:41
wilee-nileeahow628, ah, I see.02:41
Draginsudo chown -R jeff /var/www:jeff /home/jeff/public_html;02:41
usr13sixpks: Can you give an example?  (of a service)02:41
ahow628wilee-nilee: Thanks for the help. later.02:41
wilee-nileesee yah02:41
Draginif that is correct syntax, this is what it gives me...02:41
Draginchown: cannot access ‘/var/www:jeff’: No such file or directory02:42
Draginand I KNOW /var/www is there02:42
sixpks@usr13 -Mongodb02:42
usr13sixpks: I'll give *you* an example.    service cups status   #Will tell you the status of the service "cups"02:42
DraginI am assuming that jeff (in this case) is user$02:42
usr13sixpks: service cups stop    #Will stop the service "cups"02:43
usr13sixpks: service cups start    #Will start the service "cups"02:43
usr13sixpks: .... catching on yet? .....02:43
sixpksusr1302:43
sixpksI understand the Service02:43
sixpksI use it allready02:43
usr13sixpks: What is your *real* question?02:44
sixpksthe problem is that , I wnt to the services to start on thier own , when ever they crash02:44
cheshircatthey're daemons; they should do that already02:44
Draginthat goes to the init. doesn't it?02:44
Dragininit.d that is02:44
sixpksI want MONGO and TOMCAT and Apache2 to start on thier own if they ever crash02:44
usr13sixpks: Most services don't "crash"02:44
usr13sixpks: How whould they crash?02:45
sixpksFor us mongo has been crashing and stopping- the logs show "Out Of Memory"02:45
cheshircatwell, there's your problem!02:45
cheshircatare you on a dedicated server, or vps?02:45
DraginHow can I log this file so that I can reboot then find the help I have been getting again?02:46
usr13sixpks: The problem is this;  If something made a service crash, that something will need to be done away with before it could be restarted.02:46
usr13sixpks: If you have a memory problem, you will need to fix the memory problem.02:46
sixpksYes dragin02:46
DraginMemory Leak sixpks?02:46
bwayneDragin: what irc client are you using? most of them keep a log.02:47
Draginpidgin02:47
usr13sixpks: Or, if you have a leak, you will need to fix it.02:47
sixpksyes the application is not well built- so we have a few memory leaks02:47
phixhey02:47
sixpksWhat do u thi8nk about respawn in Init02:47
usr13sixpks: You will need to fix it or find a version that does not have the problem.02:47
cheshircatI think your problem does not lie in restarting the process when it fails, rather just make sure it doesn't fail02:48
phixIs there a configuration file or similar that I can set how I want dual monitors to be setup automatically when one is plugged in?02:48
bwayneDragin: not sure where pidgin keeps it. Check the preferences for pidgin.02:48
usr13sixpks: What is giving you the problem?02:48
sixpksMONGODB02:48
sixpkslack of Swap space- was crashing the MONGO02:48
phixI am using the properiatary NVIDIA drivers, when I plug in a HDMI cable is auto sets up in extend mode with the laptop monitor being tothe left of the plugged in monitor, I want to swap the default around so the laptop monitor is on the right and the plugged in monitor to the left02:49
Draginjust did a locate pidgin... tons of stuff, but easier for me to find out where they hid the logs ;) Thanks bwayne =)02:49
wylde_!logs | Dragin ;)02:49
ubottuDragin ;): Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too.02:49
miceikenHi. So I just ran a apt-get install on pptpd and set it up according to whatever guides I could find. I'm not able to connect from my computer (not on the local network), when I check syslog it says: pppd[8094]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No such file or directory - is this related?02:49
bwayneDragin: now you have two places to find the log. ;)02:50
usr13sixpks: What version of mongodb  do you have?02:50
Draginthanls lol02:50
Draginthanks even02:50
Psil0Cybinso wierd does anyone else have any idea on how i can diagnose a wifi connection that shows that its connected but really only lets me browse a few sites until it cannot reach any website?02:50
usr13sixpks: Lack of whap space?  So, how large is your swap partition?02:50
usr13sixpks: sudo fdisk -l02:50
wylde_Psil0Cybin: sounds like a dns issue to me.02:50
bwaynewylde_: thanks for that. didn't realize Ubuntu kept a log themselves. Nice.02:51
usr13sixpks: sudo fdisk -l  | pastebinit   #And show us URL02:51
Psil0Cybinwylde_: but it was working before, last night how can i fix a DNS issue, everything is set to automatic02:51
wylde_bwayne: it's handy at times :)02:51
phixPsil0Cybin: sounds like something is filtering it02:51
Psil0Cybinto get all information from my router.02:51
OldTexasI am an old DOS who is starting to tinker with Linux more and more.  Just to get off on a good foot since I will be using it intensively, which terminal is the most popular. I have been using the default Cntrl-Alt-T in Ubuntu, but there seems to be a multiplicity of choices out there.02:51
Psil0Cybinphix: but it works here02:51
Psil0Cybinand there02:51
belkinsaGot your answer, Dragin?02:51
Psil0Cybinso its notbeing blocked...02:51
cheshircatphix: nautilus manages the desktop currently, so you have to use tweak tool to make it not, and then there is an app that allows you to set backgrounds for multiple displays02:51
phixPsil0Cybin: you have a firewall setup on your network?  or a filtering proxy or anything liek that?02:51
wylde_Psil0Cybin: wireless controller dying perhaps?02:52
cheshircatI forget what it is called02:52
sixpksswap space is 8gb02:52
Psil0Cybinno i was using a VPN a few days ago02:52
Psil0Cybinbut it was still working perfectly fine after then02:52
Draginstill working on it belkisa02:52
Draginthanks though02:52
usr13sixpks: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?02:52
bwaynewylde_: my #ubuntu log in irclogs is 1.1M only after a couple of days.02:52
belkinsaNot a problem.02:52
Draginbelkinsa too.... damned typos =(02:52
phixcheshircat: ok so it is nautilus that is extending the monitor by default when it is plugged in?  or the NVIDIA drivers?02:52
wylde_bwayne: this channel gets extremely busy sometimes :)02:52
rscntjoin to #archlinux-newbie now!02:52
cheshircatnvidia shouldn't have anything to do with it02:53
phixcheshircat: basically I need to use the nvidia-settings application to reverse the screens around, but I would like to set it to the current position by default02:53
sixpks12.04lts02:53
OerHeksrscnt, you forgot the /02:53
bwaynewylde_: going to have to check if irssi has an option to trim the logs.02:53
Psil0Cybinwylde_: if the wireless controller was dying would it be working, here and there but still state its connected02:53
Psil0Cybinjust not be able to actually use it?02:53
rscntah no02:53
rscntim saying you to join!02:53
cheshircatwhen I did multiple displays, I nevery had to worry about drivers02:53
phixcheshircat: well something has to tell natualis that another monitor was plugged in02:54
usr13sixpks: So you have Ubuntu 12.04 server edition installed?02:54
sixpksyes02:54
usr13sixpks: How much RAM do you have?02:54
OldTexasbwayne, any recommendations on a good terminal package?02:54
bwayneOldTexas: terminal package? not sure if i follow what you mean.02:55
usr13OldTexas: What do you mean by terminal package?02:55
wylde_Psil0Cybin: possibly.02:55
sixpks402:55
sixpks4gn02:55
OldTexasTerminal program, seems to be a ton out there and thought I'd get soemthing to master.02:55
bwayneOldTexas: do you mean which shell to use, as in bash vs csh vs ksh, etc?02:56
miceikenHi. So I just ran a apt-get install on pptpd and set it up according to whatever guides I could find. I'm not able to connect from my computer (not on the local network), when I check syslog it says: pppd[8094]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No such file or directory - is this related?02:56
usr13Psil0Cybin: Did you try rebooting the Ubuntu PC.  (Could be that the routing tables have somehow become corrupted.) (You never know.)  One  thing I can think of is that the WiFi device may have gone haywire.  Is it very close to the wireless-router?02:56
kostkonbwayne, other terminal apps02:56
OldTexasNo, like cntl-alt-T in Ubuntu has a defauth terminal, but I seen tons of options.02:56
OldTexaskostkon, TY, I really weasn;t being clear.02:57
Little_Shirahey guys :)02:57
Psil0Cybinyea usr13 i tried rebooting :S how wierd is this...i even tried deleting the wifi preferences off the computer and readding them02:57
sixpksexit02:57
usr13sixpks: apt-cache policy mongodb  |pastebinit02:57
Psil0Cybinand it connected to the network fine, the internet worked i went to google and to yahoo02:58
Psil0Cybinthen the sites stopped working :S02:58
Psil0Cybinlike i could tell i am not recieving packets02:58
Psil0Cybinbut before i was because the graph on my top panel showed a spike02:58
Psil0Cybinin packets02:58
bwayneOldTexas: gnome's terminal (what you get with cntrl-alt-t) is a great terminal. tilda is a good "drop-down" menu for giving a quick command or two.02:58
belkinsa!enter02:58
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usr13OldTexas: What are you looking for?  (Larger screen?  Different fonts?  .... ???)02:58
kostkonOldTexas, check out guake https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/guake/02:59
usr13OldTexas: What options?02:59
OldTexasusr13,  no, just a standard most people are using.02:59
usr13OldTexas: Do you ever use console mode?02:59
usr13OldTexas: Or is that an option?02:59
willows1OldTexas: I like the default. LXTerminal is kinda nice too02:59
usr13OldTexas: (tty6)?02:59
Psil0Cybinusr13: right now again its working but in 3 minutes03:00
Psil0Cybinit wont again03:00
Psil0Cybinim so confused03:00
usr13OldTexas: Or do you really need / want a GUI terminal?03:00
Psil0Cybinhow i can diagnose this lmao03:00
OldTexas<===n oob usr13  :)03:00
zykotick9urxvt (aka rxvt-unicode) works well for me, but i don't know how beginner friendly it would be...03:01
OldTexasusr13,  a GUI terminal may be interesting.03:01
usr13OldTexas: Try a console:  Ctrl-Alt-F6  #Login, try it out, Alt-RightArrow to come back to GUI.03:01
phixok03:01
phixany other ideas?03:01
phixWhere is the default settings kept?03:01
bwayneOldTexas: I've used a few terminals. Believe me. The default is a great one. Ubuntu chose a nice, user-friendly terminal. I see what zykotick9 recommended (rxvt) used often, but be prepared to configure.03:01
Little_Shiracan anyone help me out with a little porblem, please? I can not change the brightness on my asus X55A :/03:01
usr13OldTexas: (Alt-RightArrow or  Ctrl-Alt-F7  to come back to your X-Session.)03:02
phixLittle_Shira: What's that? a laptop or a monitor?03:02
Little_Shiraa laptop03:02
zykotick9usr13: technically it's just alt+f7 ;)  the ctrl is only required when in xorg03:02
phixfn+F5 or F6 doesn't work? (I am assuming F5 anf F6 control the brigtness, it does on my SUS :))03:03
phixASUS*03:03
Little_Shirait wont work with the linux os03:03
usr13zykotick9: Really?03:03
phixLittle_Shira: works on mine :)03:03
phixLittle_Shira: The only thing that doesn't work on mine if the keyboard backlight brightness, it is either on or off03:04
phixs/if/is/03:04
Little_Shiraunder windows it works fine... i have tried setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=FF03:04
usr13zykotick9: What are *you* using?03:04
Little_Shirabut it wont change03:04
zykotick9usr13: yes.  alt+F1-F? when in linux console.  what am i using for what?03:04
phixLittle_Shira: What does google say anbut it?03:04
phixabout*03:05
usr13zykotick9: Oh yea, Alt-F7   I see.  Thanks03:05
belkinsa!google03:05
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.03:05
Little_Shirai can edit grub, use xbrightness but nothing helped ._.03:05
phixbelkinsa: oh, I didn't know03:06
usr13zykotick9: So when in tty6-tty7 you can advance up or down with Alt-Right-or-Left arrow, or choose with Alt-F#  (I stand corrected.)03:06
usr13zykotick9: So when in tty1-tty6 you can advance up or down with Alt-Right-or-Left arrow, or choose with Alt-F#  (I stand corrected.)03:06
Little_Shirabut, is here anyone who can speak german? that would be much easier for me to understand ._. *laughin*03:06
rscntjoin to #archlinux-newbie03:06
phixbelkinsa: although I wasn't telling him to use it, I just asked what it said, I was under the impression he would of attempted to research the problem first before asking in this channel03:06
usr13(*correction*)   ^^^^03:06
bazhangrscnt, stop that03:07
rscntwhy?03:07
kostkonLittle_Shira, is your monitor an oled one? because there is this03:07
kostkon!info asus-oled-dkms03:07
bazhang#ubuntu-de Little_Shira03:07
ubottuasus-oled-dkms (source: asus-oled-dkms): Driver for Asus OLED display present in some Asus laptops. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.04-2 (raring), package size 13 kB, installed size 71 kB03:07
zykotick9usr13: you got it.  but my consoles "go to 11" (12 for x) ;)03:07
phixrscnt: advertising other IRC channels in irc channels is frown apon03:07
phixrscnt: unless it is an affiliated channel03:07
Little_Shirakostkon: it is a laptop... the x55a is an ASUS notebook03:07
phixrscnt: That is IRC 101 :)03:07
rscntfrown apon?03:07
bazhang!ot | rscnt03:08
ubotturscnt: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:08
kostkonLittle_Shira, yeah, i just asked about the type of display the laptop has03:08
bwaynedon't ustle rscnt's jimmies.03:08
phixrscnt: yes, as in, discouraged03:08
rscntim banned from #ubuntu-offtopic :(03:08
bwaynecuz he ain't even mad03:08
bazhanglets move on please03:08
kostkonLittle_Shira, or maybe that oled display is just a little thingie on the laptop chasis ok03:09
phixYeah that happened to me once, apparantly you can be offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic too :)   yes lets move on, I still want to know what file controls default monitor placements03:09
Little_Shirakostkon: it is with led backlight, a standard-model03:09
kostkonLittle_Shira, ok03:09
usr13zykotick9: Well, my system is default, (only tty1-tty7)03:09
phixbazhang: Do you know which file controls default monitor placements?03:09
zykotick9usr13: ya, that's "normal" ;)03:09
usr13zykotick9: So you are not  "normal"  ;)03:09
zykotick9usr13: i doubt many others like console enough to bother to change the default... so probably not ;)03:10
usr13F1-F7 is enough for me.03:11
belkinsa!enter phix03:11
Psil0Cybinusr13: like again i tried to download a 500mb file on that laptop and it was working til 100mbs and then stopped03:11
Psil0Cybinand now isnt recieving anymore packets03:11
belkinsaphix: !enter03:11
belkinsa!enter03:11
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!03:11
Little_Shirakostkon: i rebooted my laptop right now, now it is on max brightness and i am unable to dim it ô.ô03:11
kostkonLittle_Shira, i understand your pain :/03:11
usr13Psil0Cybin: Strange03:12
Little_Shiramy laptop is hateing me QwQ03:12
usr13Psil0Cybin: tail -f /var/log/syslog03:13
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phixbelkinsa: Yes, my bad :)  I will attempt to stop myself from doing something that is just natural for me.  There we go, I am learning :)  So do you know anything about default monitor placements in ubuntu?03:13
Little_Shirabut i have the same problems on debian, arch, fedora, suse...03:13
usr13Psil0Cybin: Or just cat it03:13
Psil0Cybinsays03:13
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usr13                   me03:13
Psil0Cybinnetworkmanager[879]: <info> activation (wlan0) stage 4 cf 5 (IPv6 Configure timeout) complete03:14
Psil0Cybinabove that03:14
bwaynei laugh with every new entry in my fail2ban log.  /evil laugh03:14
Psil0CybinIP6 addconf timed out or failed03:14
Psil0Cybinand then the stage 4 error is showed twice03:14
usr13!paste03:14
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:14
usr13Psil0Cybin: So, why is it trying to use IPv6?03:15
Psil0Cybini have no idea03:15
Psil0Cybinunder IPv6 Settings03:16
Psil0Cybinon my wifi settings03:16
Psil0Cybinthe moethod is on automatic03:16
Psil0Cybinbut it is also like that on my other laptop with xubuntu that is working fine which i am using now03:16
Psil0Cybinbecause if i tried to use my other laptop id disconnect every couple of seconds03:16
usr13Psil0Cybin: I don't know, but looks like a good clue there.  Google it and see.03:16
usr13Psil0Cybin: And do not use Enter for puncuation. Okay?03:17
usr13(Use complete sentences.)03:17
Psil0Cybinsorry. I am trigger happy. Yes i am going to try and google it thanks @ least for pointing me in the right direction.03:19
crocket"export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0" kills global menu in most applications.03:20
crocketBut nautilus ignores UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0 and just shows its menu in the global menu.03:20
crocketHow can I supress nautilus global menu?03:20
alastor__what will the next LTS version be?03:22
Ari-Yangalastor__, 14.04...03:22
Ari-Yang!14.0403:22
Ari-Yang!LTS03:22
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)03:22
Ari-Yangalastor__, I think it's going to be released in April next year...03:23
alastor__Ari-Yang: i see. thanks03:23
Ari-Yang*nod*03:23
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backboxx03:25
* bwayne won't be upgrading until 2014. :003:25
usr13Ari-Yang: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS03:26
Ari-Yangusr13, thanks, but I have no need for that link... alastor__ you might be interested in it though03:27
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phixhmmmm, ok so any way, I plug a HDMI cable into my laptop, the second monitor comes up in extend mode but I have to move my mouse to the right of the laptop screen to get to it instead of the left hand side, how do I change the placement by default?  so when I plug it in again I can move my mouse to the left to get to the monitor instead of the right?03:30
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HoChilenot much going on here...03:35
Ari-YangHoChile, for offtopic you could join #ubuntu-offtopic03:35
Onixschill on that03:36
* bwayne say goodnight03:37
phixlol, why am I still banned from #ubuntu-offtopic?  I thought that was cleared up months ago, actually more liek a year ago now03:38
bazhangphix, #ubuntu-ops not here03:40
phixbazhang: sorry03:41
Ari-Yang[23:36:38] <Onixs> chill on that --> was that directed to me?03:41
Ari-Yangif it is, I don't get it :|03:41
Mace268is there a way to check my base installation? I removed a package and removed what was it said no longer needed. I'm pretty sure it broke things because I had to reinstall unity and python outside of the gui to get this far and have no terminal, update manager, and i'm sure others are missing.03:44
dr_willisinstall the ubuntu-desktop package Mace268  that should pull in all the default stuff03:45
Mace268ok thanks dr_willis i'll try that now03:46
mernilioHi all! I had my first intvervention today. Mum and dad t hought i drink to much...03:47
mernilioI did not worry to much tho! :-)03:47
Mace268dr_willis, should i remove what i manually installed and let ubuntu-desktop pull them instead?03:47
dr_willisI dont know what you installed03:48
Mace268unity and python03:48
dr_willisunity is installed by default as is python03:48
mernilioit worrows me with ppl here calling themself for doctors. :-/03:48
mernilioLike John Wayne Gacy.. killer clown...03:49
Tex_Nick!offtopic | mernilio03:49
ubottumernilio: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:49
Mace268i thought that but does it matter how the deps are pulled in?03:49
merniliooki.. i just wanted to alert everybody here not to trust a "doctor" on the internet!03:50
Mace268dr_willis is trustworthy here mernilio03:50
phixok so I take it no one knows the answer to my question or wants to assist me?  Or should i come back at another time?03:51
dr_willisdont feed the trolls Mace268    :)03:51
Tex_Nickif you're refering to dr_willis ... he's one of the finest people on this channel!!!03:51
Mace268xD ok03:52
phixTex_Nick: That's debatable :)03:52
mernilioMace268: i have seen lots of horrormovis with dr_willis and his cave...03:52
dr_willisphix:  with?03:52
phixdr_willis: The question I have been asking for the last hour03:52
dr_willisand ive been here 5 min03:53
phixdr_willis: refering to what file I edit to control the default placement of monitors when I plug one in via HDMI03:53
phixdr_willis: I have tried adding a config entry into xorg configuration file however it then expects the monitor to be there at all times, I just want to setup a default so if I happen to plug a monitor into the HDMI port it will set it up to the left of my laptop monitor instead of the right03:54
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dr_willisphix:  I recall one in the users home. saved by the display  settings tool.  but it might be from my nvidia settings tool also03:54
phixdr_willis: I am using nvidia-settings tool to manually set the placement.03:55
dr_willisim not on a ubuntu box to check. but I recall  setting my nvidia once and it remembering.03:55
phixok thank you03:56
dr_willisI use a pc monitor and a hdmi tv most of the time03:56
dr_merniliodr willis seems like a kewl guy! :-)03:56
dr_willisI plyg in the tv and it benomes a upper monitor03:56
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phixYeah, I have a 27" LCD which I plug my laptop up to sometimes, very useful especially when programming, one screen to program the other for reference material or testing output.03:57
dr_merniliodr_willis: is it okay for me as an adult to wear a hoodie with sculls on it?03:57
dr_merniliosay yes!!03:58
dr_willisstick to hello kitty please.03:58
qinhehe. KO03:58
dr_mernilio:-)03:58
phixhaha03:58
phixdr_willis: Do you mind if a private message you for a sex?03:59
phixsec*03:59
phixsorry03:59
wilee-nileelol03:59
SchrodingersScatway offtopic03:59
phixyeah tell me about03:59
phixit03:59
dr_willisheh.. sure03:59
Morph4meWouldn't xrandr do --output --left of --right ...then save to script /etc/X11 ?03:59
wilee-nileephix, your Freudian slip is showing. ;)04:01
dr_willisxrandr used to not work with the nvidia drivers.  it may work these days04:01
cjwelbornkde-desktop asks me when I plug the hdmi in, and then remembers it if I want. If i could only get the sound to automatically switch too.04:01
Morph4meok dr_willis04:01
phixwilee-nilee: you don't know half of it04:01
qincjwelborn: probably with alsa-control you can.04:03
cjwelbornk, i need to look into that. streaming videos with my hdmi plugged into a 37" tv is awesome. I just hate setting it up every time.04:04
Mace268thanks dr_willis that got me p and running again, seems lftp-gtk is a bad package to try and install. It caused all this and caused autoremove to delete a lot of core packages04:04
qin!info lftp-gtk04:06
ubottuPackage lftp-gtk does not exist in raring04:06
Mace268still finding more and more needing a reinstall04:09
dr_willismore what04:09
Mace268packages that were removed, just had to reinstall flash04:10
* xangua hates flash04:11
ocooelAnyone have a hack for Gwibber that allows adding Google+?04:11
xanguaocooel: isn't now called friends¿ in 2010¿ it supported the microbloging thing of google back in 201004:13
ocooelxangua: I can't find a client called friends..?04:15
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kichigaiHey all, I'm trying to dual-boot Windows 8 and Ubuntu, but Windows 8 has created an NTFS EFI partition. This guide isn't exactly the clearest on how to fix that issue (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI). Does anyone have anything to help me out?04:21
Draginwhat would be the command to print a file from the CL?\04:21
kichigaiIt's a hand-built machine, so there's none of that SecureBoot !#%! in the way.04:22
GeorgeTorwelldoes anyone know why bazhang was appointed to op this channel?04:23
GeorgeTorwellpm me04:23
dr_willisDragin:   "lpr" perhaps04:23
Valentina-123hi guyz, my ubuntu movie player doesn't play vcd and dvd videos .... how can I fix it ?? Somebody plz help me !!04:23
dr_willis! dvd04:24
ubottuUbuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:24
Valentina-123But how can I fix it ????04:24
kichigaiValentina-123, read the page, it'll say what to do there.04:24
kichigaiI think.04:24
Valentina-123let me try..04:25
parallelshello all04:25
Valentina-123hi04:25
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wyldeDragin: I  suppose you could try 'lpr -P YourPrinter /tmp/someFileName'04:27
Draginthanks dr_willis. Sorry it took me so lomg. I missed your answer =)04:27
Draginthanks wylde04:27
dr_willisthe cups  docs may tell other ways Dragin04:28
SinCosanyone tried eve online with latest wine in ubuntu? any luck?04:28
bazhang!appdb | SinCos04:29
ubottuSinCos: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help04:29
GeorgeTorwellis bazhang still opped in here?04:29
kichigaiHe is now.04:29
bazhangSinCos, check the appdb, then join #winehq04:29
kichigaiOr was.04:29
dr_willissigns say yes..04:30
wyldelol04:30
kichigaiShall I just assume no one knows jack squat about EFI?04:30
dr_willis! efi04:30
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI04:30
bazhangkichigai, that ? ^04:31
kichigaiYes, I read that. It wasn't clear about dual-booting, hence why I'm here. I mentioned that when I /joined04:31
dr_willisall I know about it is above04:31
cjwelbornkichigai: my setup was kind of a headache, i ended up having to use boot-repair to fix both Ubuntu and Win8 because of UEFI.04:32
kichigaicjwelborn, any info on that? Just nuke the EFI, install Debian, boot-fix Windows 8, then boot-fix Debian?04:34
kichigaiErr, Ubuntu, sorry.04:34
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kichigaiI got used to the Debian machines at work.04:34
cjwelbornkichigai: i'm no expert, but I knew both OSs were installed. They just weren't booting properly. I loaded a LiveCD and backed up my EFI Files, MBR, (anything related to booting) with boot-repair. I then ran the actual 'repair' and everything worked. I had weird extra boot options on my grub menu, but it worked and I later 'fixed' those.04:36
Draginwhere exactly is the shown --help file so I can print that file please?04:37
kichigai"actual repair"?04:37
kavelothello! I'm considering installing ubuntu 13.04 (desktop), but I it's not LTS, so i'm wondering if updating to 13.10 or 14.04 is simple... do I have to reinstall everything? do I endup with a lot of garbage?04:38
cjwelbornkichigai: that tool, warns you to back everything up before it does it's "magic". Look up boot-repair, I'm sure there's more info on it.04:38
kichigaiBecause my plan right now is to nuke the EFI partition, install Linux, and then, if necessary, use my Windows 8 DVDs to fix the EFI, then re-install Linux if I needed to. But that makes a lot more sense.04:39
qinkavelot: yeah, release upgrades can deliver some thrills, yet with back ups it's all good ;)04:40
cjwelbornkichigai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair (after doing a normal dual-boot install, creating separate partitions, noting name of efi partition, and all that beforehand)04:41
qinkavelot: and 13.10 is almost here...04:41
kavelotyes, my main fear now is to install 13.04 now, upgrade to 13.10 in 1 month and end up with a lot of garbage04:43
haysgarbage?04:43
kavelotsupposedly installing 13.04 and updating to 13.10 would leave my system as clean as if I had installed 13.10?04:43
kavelotold libs, packages...04:43
dr_willisyou worry too much04:43
hayspretty sure apt takes care of that04:43
kavelotafter using windows for so long yes, I do :)04:43
kavelotI know how it gets in a couple years04:43
dr_willisit wont be old stuff04:43
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haysi just upgraded my laptop from 12 to 1304:44
haysgot some error messages, but they seem to have self-resolved04:44
haysthings about kernel modules, but upon checking the kernel modules are loaded and working04:45
haysso I've nothing but good things to say about the upgrade process.04:45
haysUnity is nice, although the lack of a start menu grates on me a little04:45
qinhays: or you got used to error messages and seg faults ;)04:45
kavelotI don't really get linux distro versions... why ubuntu doesn't just update the packages and it would be a normal packages update?04:46
kichigaiI've never had a problem upgrading any Linux distro ever. It's easier to deal with than full version upgrades of OS X or Windows, trust me.04:46
kichigaikavelot, well, that's basically what it is. I think they use version numbers primarily for support tracking reasons.04:46
hayskavelot: usually kernels change04:46
computergeek1234hi  need some help /information .04:47
kavelothays: kernel is also a package, isn't it?04:47
dr_willisubuntu is not a rolling release either04:47
haysand then packages with big dependency changes04:47
dr_willis! latest04:47
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.04:47
qinkavelot: it is easer to track developement process, even rolling distros number themself.04:47
haysyeah dr_willis makes a good point that it is also about the support effort involved in keeping a snapshot/release stable with bug fixes and security patches04:48
kavelotgot it, i guess it might be related to QA also04:48
kavelotok, I think I got it :) thanks04:48
computergeek1234can anyone suggest a linux alternative to gotomeeting or netmeeting in windows.04:48
haysgoogle chat?04:48
qinekiga?04:48
kichigaiCan Ekiga do video comms?04:49
computergeek1234need one for business purposes with multiple users worldwide.04:49
dr_willisso you need one that also works with windoes?04:50
kichigaiThis might be worth testing: https://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/04:50
computergeek1234yes04:50
qinkichigai: according to wiki it can04:50
haysthere are advantages/disadvantages to the constant release system04:50
haysbut i think the 3-9 month rolling cycle is a pretty good compromise04:50
dr_willis'manpower' is always a limiting factor in any  distro. ;)04:50
dr_willisrelease.. then wait... then Bam,, release.. then wait. l)04:51
kichigaihays, No doubt. There are advantages and disadvantages to everything.04:51
dr_willisat least people who want to can stick to the LTS.04:51
hayson a conventional desktop ive found you can go pretty agressive and be ok04:52
hayslaptops start to get dicey and servers it starts to get very dicey04:52
computergeek1234must have video similar  to skype and have whiteboard access.04:52
dr_willisbut if you have 'just came out last week' laptops.. often lts falls down badly04:52
haysheh04:53
hayswell new laptops sometimes being on the bleeding edge (kernel) is a good thing04:53
kichigaicomputergeek1234, How important are these meetings? I mean, how critical is it that they're flawless? Because if major money is involved, you may just be best off hanging in with GoToMeeting.04:53
kichigaiOr do you have Linux machines that need to participate?04:54
computergeek1234kich mostly presentation to clients cross country. etc.04:54
b0dhiDoes logmein has support for linux?04:54
computergeek1234i have both linux and windows 7 /8   machines.04:55
haysbut seriously guys is there a way to get a heirarchical listing of installed programs e.g. a start menu04:55
dr_willishays:   the various docks can have differnt launcher buttons04:56
kichigaicomputergeek1234, do they need to participate, or are you just showing stuff?04:56
dr_willishays:  and theres classic-gnome style menu addons and indicator applets04:56
computergeek1234participate04:56
qinb0dhi: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/3-logmein-alternatives-ubuntu/ or just use ssh04:57
computergeek1234basically online interactive conferences with powerpoint etc.04:57
Draginwhere exactly can I find the PRINTABLE version of the chown --help file please?04:57
kichigaicomputergeek1234, have you considered Cisco WebEx?04:58
computergeek1234no04:58
qinDragin: copy/paset man chown or: http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?chown04:58
d1g1talph3r3tHello everyone!04:59
computergeek1234any good ?  cost?04:59
Draginthanks qin04:59
kichigaicomputergeek1234, not sure, just an alternative to GTM I've found so far.04:59
computergeek1234ok kich will check it out.  thanks.05:00
dr_willisDragin:  theres ways to format man pages for printing also05:00
kichigaicomputergeek1234, also check out Mikogo05:00
computergeek1234ok05:00
Draginbe nice if it was formatted for printing before it went live ;)05:00
zexcrizwith the help of mail server setup on my machine, i can send and recieve emails from my yahoo,gmail or any other service provider ?05:01
Draginhttp://www.kernel.org/doc/man\-pages/ bad url05:01
computergeek1234is mikogo a linux package or windows based?05:02
dr_willisDragin:  a big feature of 'man' is it can gegerate printable output05:02
b0dhiqin..thanks but it seems it is not released yet..05:02
dr_willis!find man2html05:02
ubottuFound: man2html, man2html-base05:02
dr_willis!info man2html05:02
ubottuman2html (source: man2html): browse man pages in your web browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6g-6 (raring), package size 31 kB, installed size 176 kB05:02
qinDragin: man col | col -b > man_of_col05:02
qinDragin: hope you not trying to publish nix man pages ;)05:03
dr_willisqin:  i recall    troff --man  somthing  > page.ps05:03
dr_willisold skool word processing with trofg05:04
dr_willistroff05:04
Draginno.... Just easier for me to understand if I am reading it printed out like a book for some reason if that makes any sense. I am able to comprehend it a little better05:04
kichigaitroff? Back in my day we used a magnetized needle and flipped the bits ourselves!05:04
dr_willisyou had magnets? ... luxery!05:05
qindr_willis: i used it maybe once, neat thinky with man, tho05:06
dr_willisi actually used troff/nroff then TeX for reports in school.05:06
_hello05:07
_where would the paging files in ubuntu be?05:07
dr_willis!swap05:07
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ubottuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info05:07
Psil0Cybindoes anyone else know what i can do. I have a wifi connection that says is connected but i can browse the net for only 5 minutes at a time, every 5 minutes it stopps being able to recieve connections like i cannot browse sites but suddenly i am able too again, I tried power cycling the modem/router but the connection is fine on every other computer but mine...This started when I tried to install samba05:07
zexcrizwith the help of mail server setup on my machine, i can send and recieve emails from my yahoo,gmail or any other service provider ?05:07
wilee-nilee_, there are none05:07
SwedeMikeGuest39452: it's usually a swap partition, not a paging file.05:07
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kichigaiSwedeMike, aren't they *essentially* the same, in the most basic way, though?05:09
cjwelbornPsil0Cybin: what app is handling your network connections? I've heard of some of them going crazy (crashing and restarting a lot)05:11
Psil0Cybini have no idea cjwelborn how do i find out..it was working perfectly before i started playing with samba yesterday05:12
Psil0Cybinnow today i have these problems05:12
dr_willisPsil0Cybin: test with a live cd. see if that has the same issue05:12
Psil0Cybinit woudnt have the same issue, it was working perfectly fine like 23 hrs ago05:12
Psil0Cybinlike i think it will work with the live cd05:13
Psil0Cybini think its something that samba maybe did05:13
dr_willissamba shouldent be affecting that.  test with a live cd and prove it works there05:13
Psil0Cybinwhen i uninstalled it05:13
Psil0Cybinis there nothing i can do i just dont have a live cd handy05:13
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dr_willisyou might  have yninstalled other stuff as well. but i cant think of what would cause this05:14
Psil0Cybinand the computer which has the internet working does not have a cd burner05:14
Psil0Cybingod damit05:14
Psil0Cybini dont think i did05:14
Psil0Cybindidnt think i did05:14
Psil0Cybinbut even if i did05:14
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:14
Psil0Cybinit would get it to stop completely, now it works randomly like every 5 minutes i can browse a couple of sites, and then it goes offline while it says im still connected to the wifi network05:14
dr_willisuse a usb? setvup grub2 to boot an iso file.. set up a netboot server..05:14
dr_willistry an older kernel also from the grub menu. if any exist05:15
dhyanaI'll keep it05:18
dhyana:)05:18
kostkonPsil0Cybin, check your /var/log/dpkg.log05:18
Psil0Cybinone second kostkon im restarting the laptop im going to check in a second05:19
Psil0Cybini even tried power cycling my modem/roauter like im so confused05:19
monkwitdafunkThats okay if you got a good power to all working in the set up05:21
cjwelbornPsil0Cybin: about the livecd, and not having a cd burner... do you have a USB stick and a USB port? You could boot from that maybe if you have to.05:21
monkwitdafunkIf my outlet is a small one you can run a 3.0ghz cores intel64 on a 80watt power supply to the computer05:23
Deividanonbrscoi05:24
monkwitdafunkLga775 socket is low power for single.channel ram mode05:25
Deividanonbrschello05:25
monkwitdafunkHi05:25
monkwitdafunk80 watt power supply. Thats right. You herd it05:26
Deividanonbrscalguem do brasil?05:26
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reisio#ubuntu-br05:28
monkwitdafunkHey should viva la brasil be on the long term support for intel/amd 64bit05:29
reisiomonkwitdafunk: hrmm?05:29
Guest99895hola, buenos días05:32
reisiohola05:32
Guest99895conocen alguna guia básica, quise decir muy básica, para lubuntu?05:34
aeon-ltd!es05:35
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.05:35
Psil0Cybinhmm so wierd05:36
Psil0Cybinstill cant figure it out05:36
Guest99895hola, busco guia muy básica de uso lubuntu? Gracias05:37
reisioGuest99895: http://wiki.lxde.org/es/Especial:Todas05:40
reisioGuest99895: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/local-language#spanish05:40
ElectricPrismneed to buy a new video card, want to have ubuntu in mind / mir05:41
ElectricPrismShould I get an nVidia 6/7 series?05:42
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sasiclear05:43
sasiexit05:44
ElectricPrism /05:44
qinsasi: /05:44
chenchachaHello,some one develop cortex-m3 in linux?05:51
reisiochenchacha: useless question :)05:51
dhyanachenchacha,  hello05:51
chenchacha。。。。05:52
chenchachaso few people05:53
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chenchachareisio: why the question useless??05:55
kichigaiOK, I just ran the Ubuntu Installer and used the Install-Ubuntu-besides-Windows-8 option and now I'm booting just windows 805:56
reisiochenchacha: because no answer will help you05:56
chenchachaI think there should be a lot of people do this.05:56
reisiochenchacha: to do what? Answer your poll?05:56
chenchachadhyana:hello05:57
reisiokichigai: boot the install image again, hit 'try' instead of 'install', come back here and we can fix it05:57
kichigaireisio, Oh, there's no coming back. I won't be leaving. I'm using IRC on my laptop.05:58
kichigaireisio, MWA HA HA HA! It won't be THAT easy to get rid of me!05:58
kichigaiSo I'm live now.05:58
kichigaiUSB drives boot faster than the discs I'm used to.05:59
reisiokichigai: cheating05:59
reisiokichigai: most likely GRUB failed to properly configure itself06:00
kichigaireisio, looks like my EFI boot partition is still NTFS, and Ubuntu kept installing without telling me about that.06:00
reisiokichigai: still?06:00
kichigaireisio, Da.06:01
reisiookay, well, let us know06:01
qinhow looks like partition setup after "installing besides"? It intimidates me to not know that.06:02
kichigaireisio, da is Russian for "yes"06:03
reisiokichigai: oh I know :)06:03
reisioqin: something like windows system reserved, windows, ubuntu, swap06:04
reisioqin: if it bothers you, do the manual partition option06:04
kichigaireisio, ??????? ??????? ?????06:04
reisiokichigai: do you need help fixing your efi partition?06:05
kichigaireisio, Well, I need help *building* one to be more accurate.06:05
Psil0Cybindoes anyone else know what i can do. I have a wifi connection that says is connected but i can browse the net for only 5 minutes at a time, every 5 minutes it stopps being able to recieve connections like i cannot browse sites but suddenly i am able too again, I tried power cycling the modem/router but the connection is fine on every other computer but mine...This started when I tried to install samba06:05
kichigaiIT's NTFS formatted, so I'm assuming I'll ned to format it and make it FAT32, then set up grub, then point that to the Windows bootloader.06:05
kichigaiBut I don't know much about EFI, so I can only *guess* that this is the right course of action.06:05
qinreisio: always do manual, that why I wonder, so installer do whole resizeing for itself? would it use extended partition?06:06
kichigaiI *thought* the Ubuntu "install beside" option would fix that.06:06
reisiokichigai: I'm not sure how it worked for your previous OS/es if it was NTFS06:06
reisiokichigai: you sure it isn't just a Windows system reserved partition?06:06
aeon-ltdPsil0Cybin: are you running samba?06:06
chsadoscan anyone help me get drivers for my ATI HD 489006:06
reisioqin: does it matter?06:06
Psil0Cybini just tried reinstalling it to fix this problem06:06
Psil0Cybinbut it didnt06:06
qinreisio: no06:06
Psil0Cybini wasnt before06:06
reisioqin: :)06:06
Psil0Cybini was when the problem started aegis06:06
Psil0Cybinaeon-ltd:06:06
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:07
kichigaireisio, it's a new machine. My first one with an EFI. And there is no other partition. One 367MB NTFS partition flagged bootable, one NTFS partition I installed Windows 8 on, and then EXT4 and SWAP.06:07
reisiochsados: /msg ubottu ati06:07
chsadosubottu?06:07
reisiokichigai: what makes you think it's ntfs?06:07
kichigaireisio, besides the fact parted says it's NTFS?06:07
reisiochsados: that's what it says, isn't it? :)06:07
Xavier89hi06:07
kichigaireisio, the label is "system reserved"06:07
Xavier89how to stop the service psybnc ?06:08
chsadosi dont get it06:08
qin!bot06:08
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Psil0Cybinaeon-ltd: do you think samba could have caused this?06:08
reisiokichigai: it doesn't sound like you're using efi at all06:08
Psil0Cybinshould i try to reinstall all the apps i did when i had these problems?06:08
tozenXavier89: sudo service psybnc stop?06:08
reisiochsados: what don't you get?06:08
kichigaireisio, I think I am. It's a new machine, less than a month old, and I just let Windows 8 do its thing.06:08
kichigaireisio, if it's legacy booting, I'm not going to start a fight, though.06:08
chsadosreisio- nm i misspelled the name i got the url thx06:08
reisiokichigai: legacy is a bit strong06:09
reisiokichigai: it sounds like you aren't using efi, though06:09
reisiokichigai: does it matter to you if you aren't?06:09
reisiochsados: :)06:09
Xavier89[tozen] unrecognized service06:09
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kichigaireisio, Yeah, legacy is hard to dispose of under x86. I don't see a benefit right now to using EFI, since all I care about is dual-booting, so if it's MBR I'll just roll with it.06:10
tozenXavier89: or see the number of service you want to stop through <top> command06:10
reisiokichigai: again it's not "legacy", it's just not efi, it doesn't seem06:10
sherefehello has anyone experience in installing and configuring openvpn server on ubuntu ?06:10
chsadosis there anything like the task manager for ubuntu?06:10
tozenXavier89: sothen could be smth like <kill number_of_service>06:10
reisiokichigai: but that would also mean the efi partition is unrelated to your booting issue06:10
reisiokichigai: so you have the live os running?06:10
kichigaireisio, you had said that "legacy is strong", that's what I was replying to.06:11
reisiochsados: yes, just regular Ubuntu?06:11
kichigaireisio, and yes, Live OS is running right now.06:11
reisiokichigai: okay, is 'pastebinit' on there?06:11
chsadosim on 12.0406:11
Patero-ngquestion, how to make ubuntu load from a usb drive with changes enabled06:11
Patero-ngI'm playing using the 13.4 ver06:11
sherefe guys has anyone experience in installing and configuring openvpn server on ubuntu ?06:11
reisioPatero-ng: you could install to a usb drive06:11
qinXavier89: htop and kill06:11
Patero-ngfrom win706:12
kichigaireisio, no. But I'm guessing it can be just apt-getted? apt-got? What's the proper verbal form?06:12
reisiochsados: sudo apt-get install gnome-system-monitor && dpkg -L gnome-system-monitor | grep -i bin06:12
chsadosthx reisio06:13
reisiokichigai: installed? :)06:13
Patero-ngthat was pro reisio06:13
reisiokichigai: yeah, should be able to be06:13
reisiokichigai: sudo apt-get install pastebinit06:13
reisioPatero-ng: hrmm?06:13
kichigaireisio, implying that it's obtained other than through apt-get, but yeah, I'll do that.06:13
sealbhachPatero-ng: I find the best way is to install from a live session in a virtual machine e.g. Virtualbox. It can makes a normal install onto USB as if it were a hard drive06:13
drcasper_hi guys .. i have a question. I have an Ubuntu box running Apache (port80) and I have an application (ScreenConnect) that uses port 8040.. when people go to my website (somewbsite.com) they hit my aweb server, but at the same time, i also want my application to use port 80 so they don't have to type somewbsite.com:8040 .. how can i go about getting something like that set up ?06:14
reisiokichigai: well there actually are many other ways, but mostly 'installed' is so simple, and accurate06:14
kichigaireisio, true, true...06:14
kichigaireisio, well, verbiage aside, it's now on my Live system.06:15
drcasper_i would like to see something like .. support.anywebsite.com  goes to anywebsite.com:804006:15
Patero-ngsealbhach so load the iso image then select the install procedure to install on a 4gb drive06:15
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sealbhachPatero-ng: Yes, are you familiar with Virtual machines? You need to get the VM to see your attached USB, easy enough in Virtualbox.06:17
reisiokichigai: okay, will need to see /boot/grub/grub.cfg, /etc/fstab, the output of /sbin/blkid06:17
kichigaireisio, I trust you mean the *installed* /{etc} right?06:17
Patero-ngI'm on windows 7 that's the only os on the computer06:18
qindr_casper: /j #httpd, or would it be easy to make subdomain and redirect?06:18
reisiokichigai: yes indeed06:18
qindrcasper: ^^^^06:18
sealbhachLook up Virtualbox. It's really easy to use.06:18
kichigaireisio, working? working?06:18
monkwitdafunkOem! Cheers!06:18
* kichigai does the Data eye-scanning thing06:18
reisiokichigai: hrmm?06:19
reisiooh :p06:19
kichigaireisio, grub.cfg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6109122/06:20
monkwitdafunkIf i wanted to be a Ubuntu for amd/intel 64bi..... how can i be widely recognized as one? t06:21
kichigaireisio, fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6109126/06:21
monkwitdafunkBe a OEM06:21
reisiomonkwitdafunk: a reseller?06:22
kichigaireisio,  blkid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/610913006:22
monkwitdafunkWell i like the efforts for performace on cheap 80watt power supplies06:25
monkwitdafunkOr leas06:26
monkwitdafunkOr.less06:26
aeon-ltdmonkwitdafunk: i haven't been following but 80W psu?06:27
justinm001hey06:27
monkwitdafunkYeah06:27
monkwitdafunkYou can run it safely in a good home06:27
monkwitdafunkYou can leave it on06:27
justinm001can someone help me please with ubuntu 13.04.. i'm trying to set the  default route (via usb.. I've added gatway x.x.x.x in /etc/network/interface but its not working.  I set the ip in that part and that bit is working.06:28
justinm001then i cheated and add route add default gw x.x.x.x to rc.local but t doesnt work either06:28
reisiokichigai: what's /dev/sdb2 ?06:28
monkwitdafunkNobody has herd of the 80watt PSU06:28
kichigaireisio, either my USB hard disk I'm using for storage or the USB flash drive I'm booting from06:29
kichigaireisio, what format is it?06:29
justinm001anyone at all :) ?06:29
justinm001shiny penny in it for you06:29
Guest80319hey guys06:29
Xavier89[qin]06:29
justinm001(not really)06:29
Guest80319first timer here06:29
kichigaireisio, nm, sdb2  is part of the flash drive I'm booting from06:29
Guest80319how do i change my name?06:30
kichigaireisio, don't ask me how I got hter.06:30
kichigaiGuest80319, use the /nickname (new nickname) command06:30
Guest80319hhuashd06:30
Guest80319didnt work06:30
kichigaiGuest80319, use /nick instead06:30
Jordan_UGuest80319: You need to select a nick that hasn't already been registered.06:30
Tex_Nickmonkwitdafunk: if you're wanting to become an OEM of low power PC's ... then you probably need to lookinto the micro ITX MoBo's ... that's not a topic for this channel though ... try ##hardware ... if i understand your question06:30
reisiokichigai: and sdc?06:30
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kichigaireisio, THAT is my USB HDD.06:31
monkwitdafunkOh06:31
saiedgot it thanks06:31
reisiokichigai: oka06:31
saiedhey guysl i want to become a white hat hacker06:31
saiedwhats a code channel to start06:31
reisiokichigai: I s'pose you could be using efi... did you go into windows 8 and flip that switch to let multiple OSes boot?06:31
kichigaireisio, there's a switch or that?06:31
kichigai*for that06:32
reisiosaied: #whitehat ?06:32
saiedits on this server?06:32
Jordan_Ureisio: kichigai: You don't need to disable secure boot to boot Ubuntu.06:32
reisiokichigai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Accessing_the_UEFI_settings_from_Windows8 ?06:32
kichigaiJordan_U, I don't have SecureBoot enabled to start with. I don't even have a TPM module!06:32
kichigaireisio, where's the multi-boot option there?06:33
Jordan_Ukichigai: If the machine came with a Windows 8 sticker then it had secure boot enabled by default (which doesn't quite require a TPM, which is more for "trusted" boot). That said, it's still not particularly relevant as Ubuntu should work either way.06:33
reisioUEFI is responsible for loading stuff06:34
kichigaiJordan_U, it's a custom built machine I assembled myself. The only stickers involved with it are the ones packaged with the CPU that I left alone.06:34
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xem25Hi06:36
reisiokichigai: what physical media did you install from?06:36
reisioxem25: hiyo06:36
kichigaireisio, DVDs ordered from Microsoft. I originally purchased them to dual-boot my MacBook Pro, but since I built a dedicated machine...06:36
hanasakihave a br0 setup so resulting in eth0 not getting an IP.... all runs fine... except pidgin is not logging into any accounts... I have to go to "accounts" and check/uncheck the account active on them all to get them to log in.  why is this and how do I get them to login when pidgin starts up?06:36
justinm001anyone have any ideas howto set default gw ?06:37
hanasakijustinm001:  google about route06:37
reisiokichigai: sorry I meant Ubuntu06:37
reisioalthough I wonder about Windows, too06:37
kichigaireisio, A USB NAND drive.06:38
reisiokichigai: is your DVD drive scsi?06:38
kichigaireisio, No, USB. But it's not currently connected.06:38
hanasakihow do I tell what speed my ethernet is running at?06:38
reisiooh :)06:39
reisiokichigai: I think you might be in some efi twilight zone, and might require someone who knows more about efi than most people :/06:39
kichigaireisio, Yeah, that's what I was a'fear'd of.06:40
qinhanasaki: speedof.me06:40
reisiobut I s'pose you could try re-installing GRUB06:40
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reisiohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair06:40
kichigaireisio, I thought you couldn't MBR grub on a GPT volume?06:40
reisioif that doesn't work you can try grub-install manually06:40
qinhanasaki: sorry, thats rather for broadband06:40
reisiokichigai: well how is it you mean to boot Ubuntu?06:40
justinm001hanasaki i have, ive wird tho.. its works if i add route manually06:41
Patero-ngI have a question I want to burn ubuntu into a usb drive using unetbootin but I want to know the recommended size of space to preserve files across reboots06:41
kichigaireisio, I was expecting EFI, but I'll take it anyway it'll start.06:41
justinm001or if i add to rc.local.. and i no rc.local is deff working, just the cmd doesnt work when it runs, then :(06:41
gefangshuaihello everone06:41
monkwitdafunkDistance and power maybe for ethernet speed? Cat5 ethernet is by far the pioneering as a construction trade06:41
zhoutaohello06:41
reisiokichigai: try boot repair, maybe it'll just work :p06:41
reisiozhoutao: hi06:41
kichigaireisio, will do.06:41
monkwitdafunkIts feasible to build bundles of wire06:42
justinm001and bloody /etc/resolv.conf keeps changing06:42
justinm001and im not using / running dhcp06:42
Jordan_Ukichigai: What problem are you having? Did you install 64 bit Ubuntu? What image did you use?06:42
kichigaiJordan_U, yes, 64-bit, 13.04 I beieve.06:42
Jordan_Ukichigai: And what problem are you having?06:43
kichigaiJordan_U, it's complicated.06:43
kichigaiJordan_U, reisio seems to have a reasonable grasp on my problems thus far, unless you know some dark majick about EFI06:44
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Jordan_Ukichigai: I can likely help you, but I'm going to sleep in about 5 minutes. Can you try to summarize?06:44
kichigaireisio, is boot-repair available as an APT package?06:45
kichigaiJordan_U, I doubt you can fix it in 5 minutes, but my problem is my EFI partition is NTFS thanks to Windows 8, and I need to resolve how to dual-boot.06:45
Jordan_Ukichigai: Your EFI System Partition is not NTFS. If it were then Windows 8 wouldn't be booting either.06:46
salamandre43025Y'all are probably sick of hearing this, but just installed nvidia_319_updates after configuring my xorg.conf with Nvidia-settings. 1st reboot: got "Starting load fallback graphics devices" [fail]06:46
kichigaiJordan_U, No. It *IS* NTFS. Windows 8 formatted it so. Trust me, I've read the parted outputs several times.06:46
Jordan_Ukichigai: UEFI can only read FAT, if you don't have a FAT EFI System Partition then your computer won't boot.06:47
hanasakiqin:  I mean from the linux level.. not the speed test.. but the nic config06:47
Jordan_Ukichigai: If any OS is booting via UEFI, then you have a FAT EFI System Partition. It is possible that you are booting via CSM (BIOS) rather than UEFI thouhg.06:48
StritJordan_U, kichigai You sure you are talking about the same partition? Windows 8 creates a seperate "system" partition and then the partition where windows is.06:48
kichigaiStrit, I don't see any other partition that could be it.06:48
Jordan_Ukichigai: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo blkid".06:48
salamandre43025Can ne1 help with a Nvidia_319 problem? Really don't wanna spam06:49
kichigaiJordan_U, blkid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/610913006:49
Stritsalamandre43025, I have the same problem, so I do not dare to update my drivers. :P06:50
kichigaiJordan_U, parted -l: http//paste.ubuntu.com/6109203/06:51
pccfatmanSo, I am a windows user that has just migrated to Ubuntu, everything seems to be going well with the exception of Ubuntu constantly notifying me every 10 minutes that my wireless mouse battery is at 1% I have tested the battery and also changed it with no love. Removed gnome-power-manager as I thought this was the culprit, no joy. Any suggestions?06:52
salamandre43025Strit, lol so I'm stuck with 304 and a 59.75 Hz refresh (which my monitor hates?06:53
hanasakiethtool shows speed of 100Mb/s however I know the nic is 1000 and the hub is 1000 also.... why would ethtool show 100?06:53
reisiopccfatman: I hope you put it back, if it didn't make a difference :)06:53
Jordan_Ukichigai: Since the drive containing Windows is using an msdos partition table you almost certainly aren't booting Windows via UEFI, but rather through your firmware's BIOS implementation (CSM). So it's not that your EFI System Partition is NTFS, it's that you don't have any EFI System Partition.06:53
pccfatmanyep tried that too :)06:53
Stritkichigai, if UEFI can't boot on ntfs partitions, then that's your problem. Now why Win8 would change that to ntfs on it's own is out of my power to say. :)06:53
omkarhi06:54
omkardoes anyone know the name of the app which appears afterone installs kde06:54
kichigaiJordan_U, the drive containing Windows is NTFS. It's all on the same drive. The FAT32 (MSDOS) partition is on my flash drive, which is where I boot Ubuntu from.06:54
reisiopccfatman: logitech?06:54
omkari mean the one onthe desktop06:54
Stritsalamandre43025, yeah. Same as me. Until Ubuntu repo's update their versions.06:54
reisioomkar: ?06:54
pccfatmanyest is is as a matter of fact06:54
omkarthe pane on which we can keep multiple things06:54
omkarand access06:54
Jordan_Ukichigai: Re-read what I said. You're not booting via UEFI at all.06:54
reisiodoes his grub.cfg think he is, though?06:55
omkari mistakenly removed it and want that app on desktop06:55
salamandre43025Strit, nuts I guess I'll just have to RSS the dev forum post. Cheers06:55
Jordan_Ureisio: A default grub.cfg will be the same for both BIOS and UEFI.06:55
kichigaiThen why didn't the Ubuntu installer configure MBR correctly, Jordan_U?06:55
reisioew06:56
Stritomkar, What panel do you mean? If you mean unity then you can't have both KDE and Unity running at the same time.06:56
shrican someone tell me how to install  cndrvcups-capt these drivers06:56
omkarno not unity06:56
Jordan_Ukichigai: Please run boot info script: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and pastebin the RESULTS.txt it produces.06:56
omkarin kde4 when the machine comes up right there is a panel on the desktop06:56
Jordan_Ukichigai: What happens when you try to boot?06:56
reisiopccfatman: maybe look at a package named 'solaar'06:56
omkarin which u can keep application which u access many times06:56
Stritomkar, Ah, like windows has?06:57
pccfatmanreisio: ok will do thanks06:57
kichigaiJordan_U, I end up in Windows 806:57
omkarnope06:57
reisiopccfatman: ah, hrmmm06:57
reisiopccfatman: is it an mx1000?06:57
omkarhttps://www.google.co.in/search?q=kde4+plasmadesktop+applet&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.52164340,d.bmk,pv.xjs.s.en_US.CQsooEYev9Y.O&biw=1366&bih=623&dpr=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=JVk1Up7hOJDxrQe94IHoBw#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=e9OGFhx3vzRfhM%3A%3BKawSOwT5PSEDTM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Flinuxlibrary.org%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2011%252F05%252Fkubuntu-11-04-4.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Flinuxlibrary.org%252Fkde-plasma-desktop-widgets%2506:57
omkar2F%3B800%3B60006:57
omkarsorry for the pasting image link directly06:58
Jordan_Ukichigai: Did you change any settings related to grub during the Ubuntu installation?06:58
pccfatmanwireless trackball m57006:58
reisiopccfatman: hrmm, well if solaar doesn't help, look into getting the latest version of upower, there's some talk of this sort of problem having been fixed since only four days ago06:58
kichigaiJordan_U, No, I didn't change any settings. Bootinfoscript: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6109215/06:59
helmut_hi06:59
reisiohi helmut06:59
kichigaipccfatman, Good choice of trackball. That's what I use and I *love* it06:59
pccfatmanI wont use any other :)06:59
pccfatmanthanks reisio appreciate the help, its been driving me nuts for days, and google wasnt much help07:00
Jordan_Ukichigai: One thing to note, the partition table on sdb is a mess in many ways. You should probably fix that ASAP, and I hope all your important data is backed up.07:00
kichigaiJordan_U, SDB is the flash drive I'm booting the Ubuntu Installer from. There's nothing there I care about.07:01
kichigaibrb07:01
Jordan_Ukichigai: Carefully follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot and at the end (just before step 12) run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and make sure that "sda" is selected as an install device (use sapce bar to select / unselect and Enter to go to the next screen). Be sure to follow those instructions exactly and you should end up with a working system. Goodnight.07:03
omkarits finei will search it07:04
pccfatmanbbs07:05
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pccfatmanall appears to be working ok with solaar, have to let it run for a bit and see what happens, thanks for the help, Ill be back again im sure :)07:13
reisiopccfatman: :)07:14
Valentina-123hello, is there any application that shows the  internet bandwidth usage of individual programs running.....or softwares that limits the bandwidth to certain softwares onli ????07:15
reisioValentina-123: which do you want, the latter?07:15
Valentina-123yeah07:15
Valentina-123plz help me reisio07:16
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monkwitdafunkI use ubuntu amd64 long term07:17
Psil0Cybinhey guys can someone help me figure out why my wifi says connected but i cannot access the internet, it was working perfect yesterday before i tried installing and configuring samba, but i dunt think samba is the problem, i just am clueless i have googld and googled, and tried thosands of answers none which worked for me...I have tried to reset my modem/router but it works perfectly fine for this computer, my other computers internet connec07:18
Psil0Cybintion works for 5 minutes then disconnects for 25 minutes and reconnects for 5 (doesnt say reconnects just lets me actually view websites) I can see my wifi connection is constantly connected so im clueless07:18
SemenDickmanhiiiii07:18
Valentina-123hi guys, is there any application that shows the  internet bandwidth usage of individual programs running.....or softwares that limits the bandwidth to certain softwares only ???? plz help me07:20
SemenDickman            yes there is one u indian fucktard07:20
bazhang!info wondershaper | Valentina-12307:21
ubottuValentina-123: wondershaper (source: wondershaper): Easy to use traffic shaping script. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1a-6 (raring), package size 14 kB, installed size 76 kB07:21
Mig_Does anyone know something about http://gaosu.rave.org/ubuntu? The whole website appears to be unavailable07:22
auronandaceMig_: if it isn't an official ubuntu website then i doubt it07:22
Valentina-123SemenDickman: fuck off07:23
Psil0Cybinhes gone07:23
Psil0CybinValentina-123:07:23
Psil0Cybinway too late07:23
monkwitdafunkValentina123. Do you want ubuntu with internet limted usage?07:23
auronandaceValentina-123: he got kicked, and don't use that language here please07:24
Psil0Cybinfunny enough semandickman doesnt know how to use vpns and proxys07:24
Psil0Cybinmuaha07:24
Valentina-123monkwitdafunk: for certain sws only07:24
Psil0Cybinhey guys can someone help me figure out why my wifi says connected but i cannot access the internet, it was working perfect yesterday before i tried installing and configuring samba, but i dunt think samba is the problem, i just am clueless i have googld and googled, and tried thosands of answers none which worked for me...I have tried to reset my modem/router but it works perfectly fine for this computer, my other computers internet connec07:24
Psil0Cybintion works for 5 minutes then disconnects for 25 minutes and reconnects for 5 (doesnt say reconnects just lets me actually view websites) I can see my wifi connection is constantly connected so im clueless07:24
bazhang!repeat | Psil0Cybin07:24
ubottuPsil0Cybin: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/07:24
Valentina-123monkwitdafunk:can u help07:25
bazhang!info trickle | Valentina-12307:25
ubottuValentina-123: trickle (source: trickle): user-space bandwidth shaper. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.07-9build1 (raring), package size 42 kB, installed size 180 kB07:25
monkwitdafunkWell....07:25
bazhangValentina-123, I have given you two suggestions so far07:25
monkwitdafunkIt all starts with the backbone and isp07:25
bazhangValentina-123, have you even tried either one of them yet?07:25
Valentina-123can I get a GUI based one ???07:25
reisiothere is at least one gui one, but I don't remember its name :/ :p07:26
Valentina-123plz help me friend07:27
hanasakiwhatiss a good irc channel to discuss printers and ink vs laser vs led and brands?07:27
auronandace!alis | hanasaki07:28
ubottuhanasaki: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*07:28
reisiohanasaki: #electronics?07:29
bazhanghttp://blog.kylemanna.com/linux/2013/06/17/ubuntu-1304-bandwidth-shaping-and-traffic-control-using-htb/   augh he quit07:29
hanasakialis has no info lol07:29
reisiowouldn't have read it anyways :p07:30
bazhanghanasaki, ##hardware07:30
b0xhow do i completely disable the gnone-screensaver process from running07:31
monkwitdafunkHanaski you can share the news after seeing a profession07:31
ShalI can set up xfce to be like gnome 2? With so many changes, is there a program or mod that I can use to do this?07:31
reisioShal: it takes a few minutes to do it manually...07:31
reisiob0x: you don't want your screen to ever blank?07:32
b0xwell07:32
b0xi'd like the screen to just turn off07:32
ShalWould you be willing to to guide me through that reisio ?07:32
b0xwhich it does eventually anyway, but when i try to07:32
b0xrestore, or come out of screensaver07:32
b0xi often get a black screen07:32
b0xi have to switch to console mode with ctrl alt f1, do "killall gnome-screensaver"07:33
b0xthen ctrl alt f7 to get everything back07:33
reisioShal: sure07:33
reisiob0x: I'd probably do something like this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-replace-gnome-screensaver-with-xscreensaver-in-ubuntu.html07:34
reisioGNOME 3's blanker is a little underdeveloped07:34
b0xthanks reisio, i'll try that07:37
ShalHow do you disable leave/enter notices in xchat?07:37
b0xShal: theres a option in preferences pretty sure07:38
b0xor its in their FAQ the line to enter07:38
xlinkz0Hi, i'm trying to run live ubuntu on a machine from my usb stick, i got it to boot but when i select the first option ( run image smth ) it spits out a lot of text and when it finishes with the text my monitor goes on stand by and it stays that way07:38
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Shalb0x I have been looking around in preferences, please narrow it down a bit07:40
b0xShal: please check their FAQ07:41
b0xit outlines it there07:41
b0xi know as i was reading it yesterday :p07:41
xlinkz0Shal: in hexchat it's under Chatting -> Advanced -> (checkox) Hide join dna part messages07:41
bazhangShal, right click channel name in xchat07:43
Shalbazhang, thanks, but I assume that means its only for that channel, I want it hid for all my channels07:43
dr_willishow to hide parts/joins in xchat?07:43
Shaldr_willis, yes exactly, for all channels07:44
dr_willisits in the  xchat faq/docs at its homepage. theres some  conferancemode setting you use the command line to set07:45
dr_willissome / command07:45
dr_willissomthing like confernce mode.07:45
dr_willisi think it may be mentioned in the top 10 faq's  at the xchat homepage07:45
dr_willisi musch perfer weechat's smart filtering of such messages07:46
Shaldr_willis, I looked through the FAQ, and didn't see it07:46
reisio...07:46
reisio/set irc_conf_mode  ?07:47
reisio/set irc_conf_mode 1 ?07:47
monkwitdafunkDoes emapthy support sasl for register?07:47
DandalionHi room, I'm toying with the idea of installing Ubuntu and getting rid of Windows completely - the only drawback of this I can see is gaming. Could anyone provide me with any pointers on making my Windows games fully compatible with Ubuntu? If I can do that, I would never go back07:47
dr_willissomthing like that. i gave up on xchat a long time ago07:47
monkwitdafunkEmapthy has everything right?07:47
dr_willisDandalion:  'fully compatiable' is not going to happen07:47
monkwitdafunkEmpathy07:47
DandalionI figured07:47
Dandalion:(07:48
dr_willisDandalion:  if you want best gaming. dual boot.07:48
DandalionI like Ubuntu so much but I hate dual booting07:48
DandalionI'd rather run it in a VM on my MS box07:48
dr_willisgive up on games.. thats basically what ive done.  Most are rather poor these days anyway. ;)07:48
Dandaliontrue, but Counter-strike will always have my heart07:48
dr_willislubuntu in virtualbox - is very very handy07:48
dr_willismy name is normally 'Easy-Target-Kill-me-first' in those kind of games07:49
Dandalionbasically, if CS:GO/CS:S work good in Ubuntu - that's all I need ;)07:49
bazhang!appdb | Dandalion07:49
Dandalionlubuntu?07:49
ubottuDandalion: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help07:49
reisioDandalion: they both do, via Wine07:49
dr_willis!lubuntu07:50
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.07:50
Dandalion:O07:50
bazhangDandalion, check the appdb then join #winehq07:50
Dandalionwell in that case, I may switch over completely. The only other game I play is BF3, rarely, so not a big deal if I lose that. I'm learning programming/web development and from what I have been told Ubuntu is great for C07:50
dr_willismost any linux can be used for C programming. ;)07:51
Dandalionconsidering the guys who invented C also invented the Linux kernel07:51
JimboPeaHi, I have a HP laptop with an amd apu a8, and discrete graphics. I have the latest beta driver installed. Buw when i run "aticonfig --od-getclocks" it only shows t.he clocks for the intergrated gpu and doesnt see the discrete card. Any ideas?07:51
dr_willisHmm? i dont think thats  true Dandalion07:51
DandalionMaybe I'm misinformed07:52
auronandaceDandalion: perhaps you're thinking of unix07:52
dr_willis;)07:52
Dandalionyes07:53
Dandalionthat's what it was07:53
DandalionDennis Ritchie07:53
dr_willisminux is another os designed for  'learning' ;)  sort of the grandfather to linux in ways, a lot of inspiration came from it.07:54
dr_willisbut theres learning  'C' then theres learning how 'An OS works' ;)07:54
reisiominix*07:55
Tex_NickDandalion: you're thinking about Thompson & Ritchie ??? with Unix & C ... Torvalds was Linux ;-)07:55
reisioand Stallman, but GNU/Linux is a Unix clone, so :p07:56
dr_willisbut i thought stallman invented computers? ;)  .. oh wait.. i will shut up now.07:57
Tex_Nicklol ;-) ... so does Stallman ???07:57
reisiodoes stallman what?07:57
nicoletteHello, I've just installed Ubuntu on my laptop. It worked great from a livecd, but the first time I booted I had no sound. I also recieved an odd error in the software manager about needing to repair the packages. I rebooted, and now when I rebooted, my sound works again, but now Unity never loads when I log in07:58
Tex_Nickreisio: just poking fun @ Stallman :)07:58
reisioI just didn't get it...07:58
Dandalionaccording to Wikipedia, Stallman was responsible for GNU07:59
DandalionLinus was responsible for the Linux Kernal07:59
bazhang!ot | Dandalion07:59
ubottuDandalion: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:59
Dandalionkernel*07:59
Dandalionoh oops07:59
monkwitdafunkHow is ubuntu not using a desktop enviroment?07:59
Dandalionsorry :P07:59
reisiomonkwitdafunk: ?07:59
bazhanga server monkwitdafunk07:59
dr_willismonkwitdafunk:  the desktop is just another app you run. ;) just dont run it08:00
xlinkz0Hi, i'm trying to run live ubuntu on a machine from my usb stick, i got it to boot but when i select the first option ( run image smth ) it spits out a lot of text and when it finishes with the text my monitor goes on stand by and it stays that way08:00
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dr_willisxlinkz0:  'run image somthing...'  err.. normally  the thing boots.. and you get a  'try or install' messaage08:01
Tex_NickDandalion: that's true ... & Linus Torvalds doesn't really like the reference to GNU/Linux ... he prefers to segregate GNU from Linux ... which is true08:01
bazhangTex_Nick, take the chit chat elsewhere please08:01
xlinkz0dr_willis: i get the init messages but then nothing, doesn't matter if i select live boot or install08:01
monkwitdafunkI forget what one desktop enviroment i used but doing a driver upgrade got me graphics08:01
Dandalionahhh yes, but Tex_Nick I suppose this is more relevant to #ubuntu-offtopic08:01
Tex_Nickbazhang : i know better than that sir ... sorry will watch it in the future :)08:02
nicoletteHello, I've just installed Ubuntu on my laptop. It worked great from a livecd, but the first time I booted I had no sound. I also recieved an odd error in the software manager about needing to repair the packages. I rebooted, and now when I rebooted, my sound works again, but now Unity never loads when I log in08:02
dr_willisxlinkz0:  common things/problems.  - you did verify the iso downloaded md5 sum? you did verify the burn? try differnt tools to put the ISO on the usb, try differnt usb's,  try the nomodeset option on the live usb.08:02
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nicolettethe only way i can interact with the OS is currently via terminal08:02
bazhangnicolette, did you try in low graphics mode08:03
nicoletteno, I haven't tried that. I guess this could be related to me installing the video drivers08:03
bazhangnicolette, and what about using different shells than unity08:04
dr_willisnicolette:  so it worked - befir you installed the drivers?08:04
xlinkz0i'll test it on my laptop, brb08:05
ShalHow can I mount my hard drive to access it from my live usb flash drive?08:05
Psil0Cybinhey guys can someone help me figure out why my wifi says connected but i cannot access the internet, it was working perfect yesterday before i tried installing and configuring samba, but i dunt think samba is the problem, i just am clueless i have googld and googled, and tried thosands of answers none which worked for me...I have tried to reset my modem/router but it works perfectly fine for this computer, my other computers internet connec08:06
Psil0Cybintion works for 5 minutes then disconnects for 25 minutes and reconnects for 5 (doesnt say reconnects just lets me actually view websites) I can see my wifi connection is constantly connected so im clueless08:06
nicoletteSorry did anyone say anyhing to me?08:06
dr_willisShal:  proper use of the mount command is one way.08:06
nicoletteI had to close xchat to access the terminal08:06
Psil0Cybinnicolette? lmao08:06
Psil0Cybini used to call my x gf  that08:06
Psil0Cybinwierd08:06
Shalproper use? When I tell it to mount it says "Adding read ACL for uid 999 to `/media/xubuntu' failed: Operation not supported"08:06
nicoletteI have no Unity so I have no way to switch between windows..08:07
Psil0Cybintry08:07
nicolettehow can I use a terminal to access System settings?08:07
Psil0CybinALT+TAB08:07
nicoletteALT TAB doesn't work08:07
Psil0Cybinwtf08:07
dr_willisShal:  so what filesystem is the drive using? I really havent ever used acl's - so you may  be doing somthing that ive never done/used befor08:07
nicoletteALT TAB requires Unity...08:07
dr_willisnicolette:  so you are on a semi-working X desktop?08:07
Shalext4, it works perfectly fine under the installed distro08:08
nicoletteyes, desktop is loaded after installing drivers.. but no Unity08:08
Shaldr_willis,08:08
ShalAnd I don't know what acls are08:08
Shalbut it isn't something I choose to use08:08
dr_willisnicolette:  to get at least a 'useable desktop' you may want to do a 'sudo apt-get install jwm' then run 'jwm' in a terminal.08:08
nicolettewhat is that?08:09
dr_willisShal:  some sort of access /permission thing. ;) ive never used them etither08:09
dr_willis!info jwm08:09
ubottujwm (source: jwm): very small lightweight pure X11 window manager with tray and menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0+svn579-2 (raring), package size 110 kB, installed size 290 kB08:09
nicoletteI see..08:09
dr_willisjwm- about the lightest/smallest window manager in the repos.08:09
dr_willisa Huge 290k!08:09
nicoletteor I could prolly just switch to GNOME, right?08:09
dr_willisif you got it installed. ;)08:09
Shaldr_willis, So can you help me?08:09
dr_willisjwm will take like 3 sec to download08:09
dr_willisShal:   what was the original os that made the partion?08:10
wylde_nicolette: what output do you get from 'ps aux | grep lightdm'?08:10
nicolettejwm got me a window manager, thanks08:10
Shaldr_willis, ubuntu 11.1008:10
dr_willisjwm is about as basic and light as it gets. ;) handy for vnc and remote sessions.08:10
dr_willisShal:  you migght want to check askubuntu.com to see if anyone else knows about that error mesage. I never have looked into acl ussage. so dont know how or what its really used08:11
dr_willis!acl08:11
nicolettehere is the output: http://www.pastebin.ca/245182608:11
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dr_willisShal:  that error message dosent really say the mount failed. it just is saying it cant add the permission.  so did it actually fail to mount?08:12
yellabs-r2we need an ubuntu version thats all dutch, how could we get it , any tips are welcome ( should we roll out our own version ? )08:12
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Shaldr_willis, I don't understand what distinction you are tying to make, I can't access the drive08:12
reisio#ubuntu-nl ?08:13
wylde_nicolette: ok, that's not the problem.08:13
dr_willisShal:  how are you trying to access it? as what user.08:13
dr_willisShal:  whats the exact mount command you are using also.08:13
yellabs-r2i asked there, but there is no nl version they are maing right now..08:13
Shaldr_willis, I said, from a usb live flash drive. Access it by point and click08:13
dr_willisShal:  use the shell. it will give better error messages08:13
dr_willisshal the live cd will also be the user 'ubuntu' its possible that user has no rights to access the filesystem. Your root user should be able to08:14
Shaldr_willis, please tell me how to do it via terminal then please08:14
nicoletteThere were two updates listed in the Software Manager.. I'm going to try switching to the other one08:14
nicoletteAlso, what is the command to open Ubuntu Software Center?08:14
dr_willis!mount | shal  for referance.08:14
ubottushal  for referance.: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount08:14
dr_willisShal:  somthing like 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/MAKEADIRECTORYFIRST'08:15
dr_willisthen try a 'sudo ls /media/THENAMEYOUMADE'08:15
wylde_!find language-pack-nl08:15
ubottuFound: language-pack-nl, language-pack-nl-base, sword-language-pack-nl08:15
dr_willisassuming the partion is sda108:15
crocketnautilus is shitty.08:15
nicolettealso... I have ATI graphics. Is it correct for me to be installing fglrx from the System Settings -> Software and Updates?08:16
crocketWhat's a good alternative nautilus for unity?08:16
dr_williscrocket:  theres dozens of file managers in the repos.08:16
reisiocrocket: what don't you like about nautilus?08:16
wylde_nicolette: you can use jockey to get those drivers08:16
Shaldr_willis, make directory?08:16
dr_willisand theres tweaked nautiuls variants out in unofficial places. ;)08:16
nicolettejockey?08:16
dr_willisShal:  yes.. you MAKE a directory to MOUNt the  partion to08:16
dr_willisShal:  that mount info url - gives details.08:16
wylde_nicolette: it's the actual program for "Additional Drivers" :)08:17
nicoletteinteresting08:17
dr_willisjocky-gtk i thought was the name.. at least in the older ubuntus' - the newer ones  have the addational-drivers tool in a tab under the software-sources tool08:17
Shaldr_willis, You mean https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount?08:17
crocketreisio, When I type some keys in it, nautilus just automatically searches what I type. But I want it to point to the matching files/directories.08:17
wylde_nicolette: you can run it from the commandline with jockey-text08:17
dr_willisShal:  yes. its worth skimming/reading that to learn the basics of what you are trying to do08:18
wylde_dr_willis: yes it is08:18
reisiocrocket: it doesn't point?08:18
crocketdr_willis, What's the best?08:18
nicoletteI just installed the other driver in Additional Drivers08:18
nicoletteIs it worth it for me to install jockey?08:18
nicoletteor should I try rebooting now?08:18
dr_willisShal:  make a directory 'sudo mkdir /media/THEDIR'  mount the drive to it.. 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/THEDIR'   see whats there 'sudo ls /media/THEDIR'08:18
nicoletteAlso, is there a command I can run to try to restart unity?08:18
crocketreisio, In other file managers, when you type some keys, they move focus to files/directories that match what you type.08:18
dr_williscrocket:  totally depends on what your needs are. I use 'mc' 90% of the time.08:19
crocketreisio, In nautilus, when you type, it starts a search.08:19
reisiocrocket: ah, use one of the others then08:19
wylde_nicolette: compiz --display :0 --replace   might help08:19
Rorynicolette, i think "unity --replace"08:19
reisiocrocket: alternatively: http://www.google.com/search?q=nautilus%20disable%20search08:19
crocketreisio, I think GNOME devs are becoming increasingly crazy.08:19
reisiocrocket: maybe, but only about what they always wanted08:20
nicolettehere is the output when I try to start Unity08:21
nicolettehttp://www.pastebin.ca/245183508:21
crocketreisio, They removed lots of fine-grained background settings to the point of frustration, and they put auto-search into nautilus.08:21
dayive a big problem with my soundcard/microphone. Im using a ALC889. And the microphone adds random fragments to my voice. Not all the time just every few seconds and ive no idea how to fix this.08:21
crocketIt's just crazy.08:21
crocketThey're certainly drifting a lot in brownian motions.08:22
reisiocrocket: it's not my cup of tea, but it's what they've always been into in GNOME land08:22
crocketreisio, I think GNOME people are drifting.08:22
xlinkz0dr_willis: md5sum is correct, i can boot from it on my laptop, tried different usb ports on the desktop with the problem but i nothing changed08:22
nicolettebrb, gonna try a restart08:22
xlinkz0i suspect it's booting it just has a problem with the display/graphics card?08:23
bekksxlinkz0: Did you try the nomodeset kernel option?08:23
xlinkz0no, do i just go into help then type nomodeset?08:24
Shaldr_willis,  don't I need to make the directory on a specific partition? I see nothing in that code that specifies which partition the directory is being made in08:24
bekks!nomodeset|xlinkz008:24
daymaybe i should just get a cheap 'working' soundcard :/08:24
ubottuxlinkz0: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter08:24
dr_willisShal:  you Mount a partion TO a directory. the directory can be anywhere.08:24
xlinkz0thanks08:24
nicolettewell that didn't work.08:24
crocketI just ended up installing marlin as a replacement for nautilus.08:25
nicolettenow I can't even start JWM08:25
Mig_what do I do when apt-get fails on me because it can't locate the source?08:25
Rorynicolette, might it not be easier to log out and in?08:25
dr_willisShal:  mount example ->  'mount /dev/sda1 /path/to/the/mountpoint'08:25
nicoletteIf I try to start JWM now it claims that the display is already manager (it definitely isn't08:25
RoryMig_, please post the full error on http://paste.ubuntu.com08:25
dr_willisShal:  that  /path/to/the//mountpoint MUST exist befor you can mount the partion to it08:25
Rorynicolette, jwm --replace ?08:25
nicolettetried it08:25
dr_willisjwm dosent support replace i imagine. ;) its too new a option08:26
Rorynicolette, are you trying to use jwm instead of unity?08:26
dr_williskillall compiz && jwm08:26
dr_willisperhaps. ;)08:26
Shaldr_willis, Ok, but this confuses me a bit because it has the appearance of being the exact opposite of how windows works :p But I think I get it08:26
Shalpartially08:27
xlinkz0bekks: i'm on 12.04 i don't get the f6 stuff with extra options08:27
dr_willisShal:  windows does it totally screwy.   Linux - you put the partion exactly where you want it to go on the directory 'tree' of the system08:27
bekksxlinkz0: What is "f6 stuff"?08:27
dr_willisyou want sda3 to be your home directory,, you mount it to /home/08:27
xlinkz0bekks: http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png08:27
nicoletteI had to kill the terminal window and xchat again08:27
dr_williswant it for video. mount it to /media/videos08:27
nicolettedid i miss anything?08:27
peter09/join ubuntu+108:27
Mig_Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6109483/08:27
nicolettejwm --replace doesn't give any errors, but also doesn't work08:28
dr_willisnicolette:  you should learn to use a console based irc client. ;)08:28
xlinkz0bekks: 12.04 doesn't have a splash screen like that, the options on the bottom are not present08:28
wilee-nileepeter09/join #ubuntu+108:28
Rorydr_willis, NTFS does actually allow you to mount a volume as a folder, but I agree, the UNIX way seems more obvious and powerful08:28
bekksxlinkz0: Yeah, because 12.04 uses grub2.08:28
shawnhello the world !!! please how do active the seLInux on Ubuntu Studio ? thanks !!!08:28
nicolettelol, i have more pressing concerns..08:28
RoryMig_, What is gaosu.rave.org ???08:28
bekksxlinkz0: Enter the menu, and add the option.08:28
bekks!grub2 | xlinkz008:28
ubottuxlinkz0: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub208:28
vs7hi, anyone know how to get amd catalyst driver 12.4 and radeon hd 6950 working in 12.04.3 LTS08:28
dr_willisRory:  and ive had that totally screw things up. ;) but ive also had windows decide to install to my H: drive giving me no C: D: E: or F; once.. and that really really goofed things up. ;P08:28
Mig_it's where the packages are located08:29
dr_willis!selinux | shawn08:29
ubottushawn: SELinux is available on Ubuntu, but not officially supported. Ubuntu uses another security framework by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor08:29
xlinkz0bekks: doesn't look like that either ;\08:29
vs7* 12.04.3 LTS 64-bit08:29
bekksMig_: If you have issues with your PPA - and thats what you have - please contact the maintainer of the PPA.08:29
xlinkz0i don't have grub installed, i'm trying to run ubuntu as a live image08:29
Shaldr_willis, Can't I mount it directly to media? How do I determine the name to use to mount X partition to the directory?08:29
bekksxlinkz0: Doesnt need to look like that. Please read the grub2 article on how to get into the grub2 menu.08:29
dr_willisShal:  again.. you dont want to mount it to /media/ but to a DIRECTORY in  /media/   like how evverything else gets mounted to.08:30
dr_willisShal:  you can use ANY NAME you want.08:30
dr_willisShal:  i would avoid spaces in the  name, and fancy characters08:30
shawnthanks ubottu !!!08:30
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Mig_ah, or perhaps i can change my PPA :)08:30
Shaldr_willis, the name of the partition, not the name of the directory. Like how do I know if its sda1 or something else?08:31
nicoletteany ideas? It seems pretty clear to me that the fglrx driver is causing this... what should I do now?08:31
dr_willisShal:    i think that !mount factoid url mentioned how. you can use 'sudo blkid' or 'sudo fdisk -l'08:31
quick---hi i forgot my external HDD password wihich i have encrypted with ubuntu. is there any way i can recover it ?08:32
bekksquick---: No.08:32
dr_willisShal:  the /dev/sdXX is the 'device' name    sdXY  where X= a letter for the drive and Y = a number for the partion on the drive08:32
SwashBucklahow do i restore my ipod?08:33
reisioquick---: if it's actually encrypted, and if the password was of a decent length, nope08:33
SwashBucklanote: it is not supported by gtkpod08:33
bekksSwashBuckla: Connect it to iTunes, click restore.08:33
reisioSwashBuckla: restore?08:33
SwashBucklabekks: i dont have itunes08:33
SwashBucklareisio: rythmnbox trashed the filesystem08:33
reisioquick---: sure you didn't write it down or store it in a file somewhere?08:33
quick---reisio: bekks:  I use a standard combination of some words . is there any brute force software that i can use.08:34
reisioSwashBuckla: trashed in what way?08:34
reisioquick---: yes, but it could potentially take eternity08:34
Shaldr_willis, Neither of those commands tell me which name for which partition. I need additional information like partition size etc08:34
reisioquick---: that's the whole point of using a long password08:34
quick---reisio:  Nope i havn't written it anywhere.08:34
SwashBucklareisio: now when i try to listen to music on it, a voice plays "please use itunes to restore this ipod"08:34
ShalSo I know which partition it is talking about08:34
reisioquick---: you'll probably remember it08:35
bekksquick---: The answer is: No.08:35
reisioSwashBuckla: mmm08:35
quick---reisio: I ll take my chances with the software . Ya i hope i remember it too08:35
reisioSwashBuckla: well, iPhoos are really only made with specific software in mind08:35
reisiothere are plenty of more sensible portable audio devices, that use simple mass storage and not a proprietary filesystem hierarchy08:35
bekksquick---: Theoretically, you can try to brute force, practically you arent the FBI/NSA having a supercomputer.08:36
SwashBucklareisio: :(08:36
nicolettejust FYI, the graphics card giving me this problem is a Radeon HD 7670M in a Lenovo Ideapad y47008:36
bekksSwashBuckla: Then use itunes to restore the ipod.08:36
reisioit'd still take ages even with a supercomputer08:36
SwashBucklaI will have to find a computer running itunes then08:36
reisionot much point encrypting data that rich people can easily brute force08:36
quick---bekks:  who know :D08:36
SwashBucklabekks: ok08:36
quick---reisio: bekks: thanks for the advice guys :)08:36
BlackWebuse GPG08:36
reisioSwashBuckla: anyways, bekks already told you how to do it08:37
bekksBlackWeb: Which rewquires you to remember your password, too.08:37
quick---\msh nickserv logout08:37
quick---\msg nickserv logout08:37
BlackWebWhat I do is use GPG, Then Flip the ASC file then GPG again,  only a password if you keep a password on your secret key08:37
bekksBlackWeb: And that "only a password" I what he forgot.08:37
bekksBlackWeb: Go figure. ;)08:37
crocketmeh08:38
crocketnemo is a replacement for nautilus.08:38
BlackWebLOL oh...08:38
reisioget yourself a security token and your system will be more secure and you won't be able to forget the password08:38
reisioor maybe just some gingko :)08:39
crocketreisio, Are GNOME devs extorted by corrupt people?08:39
crocketThey're killing nautilus.08:39
dr_willisi just write my password down on a post-it note. ;)08:40
dr_willisand hide it on the wall with all the other poste-it-notes for all the other passwords08:40
audreyapt-get seems to have completely fucked itself, apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libbz2.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:40
ice9how to open pst files?08:40
Shaldr_willis, Still there?08:41
BlackWebThen after encryption I sometimes rar the encrypted file and then cat it into a jpg so that it sits on pc and no suspecting person would realize its more then a pic08:41
dr_willis!find libbz2.so08:41
audreydoes this with any command.08:41
xlinkz0nomodeset worked ! thanks08:41
ubottuFile libbz2.so found in ark, ark-dbg, lib64bz2-1.0, lib64bz2-dev, libbz2-1.0, libbz2-dev, pristine-tar08:41
dr_willisShal:  for a bit longer.  works almost over here for me08:41
mamedubuntu 13.04 youtube problem . when i try to open a video it is loaded for a while and then scroll arrow goes back to video start position and then "an error occurred"08:41
audreywhen trying to install it with dpkg -i i get this: dpkg-deb: error while loading shared libraries: libbz2.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:41
xlinkz0i have a dvd-rom drive in the computer and would like to test if it is working, can i do that from the live image?08:41
Shaldr_willis, I asked you something awhile back, I guess you missed it, perhaps we should talk in PM?08:41
audreyso dpkg and apt-get are both broken.08:42
bekksxlinkz0: Do you inserted the live image into the dvd drive and boot from it?08:42
dr_willisShal:  im at work. so may  have to leave at any time.  others in the channel can cover for me if i got to split. ;)08:42
xlinkz0bekks: no the live image is from an usb stick08:42
Shaldr_willis then please answer someone08:42
bekksxlinkz0: Then insert a dvd...08:42
xlinkz0i did08:42
peter__NICK Peter0908:42
dr_willisShal:  fdisk -l  shows me all partions on all disks here.08:42
dr_willisshal well 'sudo fdisk -l'     also 'sudo blkid' shows me all partions on the system with the label and other info08:43
bekksxlinkz0: Then continue.08:43
BlackWebShal    ls -ltr /dev/disk/by-uuid  or ls -ltr /dev/disk/by-label08:43
tozenhi all does smb can explane me what 4 i have two folders with anoying background ( http://itmages.ru/image/view/1217318/c37ee87b )08:44
tozenthx08:44
Shaldr_willis,  fdisk -l seems to only show me mounted partitions, that being only the flash drive. sudo blkid does not tell me which partition name belongs to which partition08:45
xlinkz0bekks: continue what?08:45
dr_willisShal:  fdisk -l should definatly show more then just mounted partions.08:45
ShalIt only has lines like "/dev/sda1: UUID="1e8ea1f1-4065-414b-8724-c23425fe903e" TYPE="ext4" " which is useless08:45
bekkstozen: The colors depend on the permissions.08:45
dr_willisShal:  start mounting them all perhaps?   and see whats in eacch one08:45
Shaldr_willis but it doesnt08:45
bekksxlinkz0: Continue using the DVD.08:46
xlinkz0bekks: when i inserted the dvd nothing happened on the live image, does that mean the dvd-rom isn't working?08:46
BlackWebsha1    do  ls -ltr /dev/disk/by-label08:46
Shaldr_willis mounting them is what I am trying to do08:46
dr_willisShal:  i always give my partions lables so o know what ones are what.08:46
dr_willisShal:  so you know ONE is /dev/sda108:46
bekksxlinkz0: No, it doesnt mean the dvd is not working. You just have to do what you want - manually.08:46
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dr_willisShal:  and you can see what mountpoints the others are at with the  'mount' command.08:46
Shaldr_willis, Isn't there a command that will tell me the partitions size, free space?08:46
dr_willisShal:  so make a list of what each partion is so you rember.08:46
tozenbekks: ok thx but what i've to do with this info, pal? :)08:46
xlinkz0bekks: i entered the home folder but i can't see the dvd-rom in the devices list on te top left list08:46
dr_willisShal:  fdisk -l shows me the space here.08:47
dr_willisin K or somthing08:47
Shalk?08:47
dr_willisim not on a ubuntu box so i cant cut/paste any output08:47
bekkstozen: Now, you have to look at the permissions.08:47
dr_willisK as in Kilobytes, or somthing.08:47
dr_willisShal:  perhaps pastebin the output of those 2 ccommands for the channel to look at08:47
tozenbekks:  :) ok thx anyway08:47
dr_willisShal:  you have shown that sda1 is a linux partion. allready08:48
Shaldr_willis, Sorry my mistake, I should have said fdisk -l only shows me physical drives, not partitions08:48
crocketdr_willis, I think nemo serves me right.08:48
dr_willisShal:  fdisk -l should show partions on the drives also.    like 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda'  whould show all on sda. by default it shows all drives and all partions  i recall08:48
ShalThey are all linux partitions :p08:49
dr_willisShal:  so mount them all.08:49
dr_willisthe mount command will show where they are mounted at now - IF any are mounted08:49
ocooelIs there anything else out there like Full Circle..?08:49
dr_willisyou can use the 'tune2fs' command to make a proper Label for each partion so you can rember whats what08:49
nicoletteS... switching back to open source drivers did not fix the problem.08:50
nicoletteSo*08:50
nicoletteCan anyone please help me here? I'm desperate :(08:50
tozenbekks: thx sorted now!08:50
dr_willisnicolette:  try making a new user - see if that user works.08:50
dr_willisnicolette:  if the new user works.. that points to a user setting problem08:51
Shaldr_willis, So is there a command that shows partitions total size and free space along with partition names/designations? fdisk does not do this for me08:51
dr_willisShal:  i revcal lit doing it for me.. why not pastebin the output for the channel to look at08:51
dr_willissudo fdisk -l | pastebinit08:51
dr_willisyour partions have no names. if you gave them no labels.08:52
dr_willisor just go down the list.. make a directory for each one.. and mount it to that directory08:52
Shalhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6109555/08:52
dr_willissudo mkdir /media/sda1   && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1      repeat for each drive08:52
Shalsda1 counts as a name, and I know for a fact some of my partitions have specific names08:53
Shalthat I gave them08:53
dr_willisyou are using a gpt partioned drive. ;) fdisk dosent like those.08:53
bekksShal: Names are irrelevant, actually.08:53
Shalthatis why I said /designation08:53
dr_willistry 'sudo blkid' pastebin thaat08:53
nicolettedr_willis, I've actually never done that08:53
nicolettehow do I make a new user?08:53
dr_willissda1 is a partion   - sda is a 'drive'08:54
dr_willisnicolette:  sudo adduser billgates              at the console - is whata i normally do08:54
ShalOf course I am using GPT, who wouldn't if they can help it.08:54
Mig_the great thing about linux is that i have just about enough knowledge to fix my problems, but not enough to make sure my fixes don't break something else :D08:54
ShalHow do I make | on my keyboard?08:54
dr_willisI just use the | key ;)  its right there above my \ key08:55
ShalI used copy paste to put that here08:55
dr_willisabove my enter key08:55
dr_willissudo blkid | pastebinit08:55
tozenShal: Shift + \ ?08:55
ShalAh the print on the key looks like something else, no wonder I couldn't find it08:55
dr_willisim not sure any of my pcs aree using GPT. ;)08:55
Shalwhy not?08:56
dr_willisbut my newest 'pc' is a raspnberry pi08:56
dr_williswhy should i?08:56
dr_willisother newest pc is a 2 yr old netbook08:56
bekksShal: Until a PC only supports GPT, there is basically no reason to use it.08:56
ShalBecause the alternative of primary  and extended partitions and their limitations are a nightmare unless your partition setup is super simple08:57
dr_willisI really dont have  much need for complex partion layouts either. ;)08:57
dr_willisit pays to keep things simple.08:57
bekksShal: Thats pretty much just untrue. Nowadays one uses LVM, and thus there is no need to mess with extended partitions anymore.08:58
Shalwell there is no real disadvantage of using gpt08:58
bekksShal: And, that applies to GPT, too.08:58
ShalLVM?08:58
bekksLVM.08:58
ShalWhich stands for?08:58
dr_willis!lvm08:58
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto08:58
Shala raid setup?08:58
bekksNo.08:58
dr_willisim so old skool - i dont even use lvm or raid. ;) but i do have my linux on its own ahrd drive08:58
bekksA Logical Volume Manager.08:58
dr_willisredhat sets up lvm by default in its normal install i seem to recall08:59
Shaldr_willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6109569/08:59
bekksdr_willis: Yeah, that applies to RHEL6.08:59
ShalSee how it contains no useful information for identifying partitions09:00
bekksShal: You dont have enough partitions to use extended partitions ;)09:00
ShalIts just a temporary setup right now. and there is no reason to NOT use GPT, anyway GPT is what it is, so...09:01
dr_willisShal:  you have a whole 2 linux partions..  sda1 and sda2.   and a ntfs on sda4.. you want a linux one.. so mount sda1 and look at whats in it.. same for sda209:01
Shaldr_wllis Is there, or is there not a command that will list partitions with their designation along with size and free space?09:02
dr_willisyou gave no label for the partion - so  they got no names.09:02
dr_willisparted or cfdisk might be able to. i dont see why it matters.09:02
dr_willisit will take all of 20 sec to mount both partions and look at whats on them09:02
dr_willisi would imagine that sda1 is the / partion and sda2 is the /home09:03
Shalfor easily identifying the partition without having to go through mounting them one by one. I might only have a few right now, but in the future I could have more, and I want to be able to have that data09:03
dr_willisthen i suggest you start labeling your partions09:04
nicolettedr_willis, creating a new user accoutn brought back unity, but as soon as  re-installed drivers unity broke again09:04
dr_willisnicolette:  ;)   so now remove them again and see if billgates is broken? :) if he is. removce all the setting files in his home and see if he works.  this wy you are not goofing around with your main user as a test user.09:05
Rorynicolette: what drivers? What Ubuntu version? How did it break?09:06
nicoletteI saw a thread with someone with that same graphics chip saying that it was because they installed drivers before Linux headers?09:06
Shaldr_willis, Labels won't tell me a partitions size and free space09:06
dr_willisnicolette:  i have only one amd/ati machine. and it uses the open sourced drivers. so other then this basic troublke shooting  i dont know much  more about them09:06
dr_willisShal:   i use fdisk -l. if you want to use gpt. then you need to look into the newer partion tools i guess.09:06
RoryShal: df -h09:06
RoryShal: But that only works for mounted partitions09:07
nicoletteRory, flgrx on Radeon HD 7970M. Unity reaks after installing drivers09:07
Rorynicolette: "breaks"09:07
dr_willisit reaks that it breaks. ;)09:07
nicoletteunity fails to open. I have no window manager but can open terminal through hotkeys.09:08
Rorynicolette: I need to know your Ubuntu version also09:08
nicolette13.0409:08
Shaldr_willis, Anyway, moving on for the moment, I seem to have mounted it, but where do I find said mounted partition?09:08
dr_willisnicolette:  if you have jwm installed - you can select it at the Lightdm login screen09:08
dr_willisShal:  its at the directory you told it to via the mount command09:08
Rorynicolette: Can you run the command: "fglrxinfo" and paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com please?09:08
Shaldr_willis, and where is that directory?09:09
dr_willismount makes a filesystem APPEAR at a directory  of your designation09:09
dr_willisShal:  what command did you use to mount it?09:09
dr_willisI dont see whats complex about this idea. ;)09:09
dr_willismount /dev/sda1   /media/sda1           it SHOWS up at /media/sda109:09
Benkinoobyhi - i use ubuntu 12.10 and lightdm. when i set lightdm to a custom background still the purplebackground flashes up, before my background is set. how can i set my background from the very first moment i see lightdm?09:10
dr_willismount /dev/sda1   /home/billgates/money            it SHOWS up at /home/billgates/money09:10
nicolettehttp://pastebin.com/T1H4X4rc09:10
nicoletteRory09:10
Shaldr_willis, I used  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/mydir09:11
dr_willisBenkinooby:  you can change tghe bg its using in the lightdm configs. or edit the  background image its useing in /usr/share/backgrounds (i think)09:11
dr_willisShal:  so look in  /media/mydir09:11
ShalAnd where is that?09:12
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ShalI see clutters of icons to partitions on my desktop, but none of them work09:12
dr_willisShal:  err... that is the path to the location.    open a shell.. cd /media/mydir09:12
basiclaseranyone in here tried Lubuntu?09:12
ShalHow do i go there through the DE09:12
Benkinoobydr_willis: i changed the baground. my problem is, that the default baground is visible for a short moment before the becground i chose is set09:12
dr_willisShal:  use the terminal. or type in the path in your file managers address entry field.09:12
dr_willisShal:  easier to use the terminal09:13
loredannRe all09:13
dr_willisShal:   or hit  the parent  arrow.button/whatever to you get to  / then look for a 'media'  directory09:13
nicoletteyou still there Rory09:13
nicolette?09:13
dr_willisbasiclaser:  lubuntu is very popular09:14
RoryYes sorry nicolette I missed that before09:14
Mig_i actually run lubuntu09:14
dr_willisbeen using lubuntu on my netbook. and  lxde on my rasppberry pi. ;)09:14
loredannThe system is running in low-graphiccs mode09:15
loredannUbuntu 1309:15
Rorynicolette: Take a look at this link http://askubuntu.com/a/29994509:15
Benkinoobydr_willis: brb09:15
loredannPls help me09:16
Shaldr_willis,  It's doing something different when I tried the same thing twice, its difficult to explain09:16
Shalbut something isn't right09:16
bekksShal: So whats different, and whats "something"? :)09:17
nicoletteRory, that link only seems to restore default config. will it fix my ATI drivers/09:17
nicolette?09:17
dr_willisyou could always reboot so everything gets back to  a sane state. and unmounted. then you could try remounting the partions.  Its possible one or more were auto mounted.. we cant tell what all have been done to the system09:17
Shaldr_willis, there is the issue of all this clutter of drive listings in my file manager that give me error when I try to click on them.09:17
Rorynicolette: No, it will put you back to the default open-source drivers, from there we can work on installing fglrx properly09:17
dr_willisShal:  the mount command will tell you what is mounted where.09:18
nicolettewell I have a fresh profile I can use09:18
nicolettelet me jump to a new clean profile09:18
Tex_Nick!details | loredann09:18
ubottuloredann: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:18
dr_willisShal:  if you mounted sda1 to /media/mydrive   then   'ls -l /media/mydrive' should show its contents09:18
Alpotrhey09:18
Alpotrhow can i disable the alt+right click menu?09:18
Shaldr_willis, I am talking about through the DE, not everyone wants to run things through commands only, or even can09:19
Alpotri have twice already closed a window accidentally because of that09:19
Vbitzwhat's the channel for 13.10?09:19
Mig_i'm assuming getting a screen with vertical lines when starting up a game means there's something wrong with my graphics driver? :P09:19
Alpotri disabled alt+space menu from settings but can't find where o disable the alt+right click menu09:19
dr_willisShal:  im not on a ubuntu box so i dont have the desktop memorised. and commonly support in irc is easier with the terminal.     unless you want to start posting screenshots and videos.09:20
nicolettebrb, gotta switch profiles09:20
bekksMig_: Or with the settings of the game, or with the hardware requirements of the game, or or or09:20
ShalFirst time I went to media/mydir, it took me to one of those 50gb listings, it showed me a bunch of system files, I was actually able to access one of these. But then suddenly it was giving me the error instead of accessing . So then I renavigated to it, and I found myself in a empty 4gb space, I don't have any partitions of that size09:20
Mig_bekks, it are pretty low req games and i didn't mess about with any settings09:21
bekksShal: Which error?09:21
RoryShal: An alarm bell in my head is screaming hard-drive imminent failure09:21
* dr_willis agrees with rory.09:21
Shalfailed to mount "Adding read ACL for uid 999 to `/media/xubuntu' failed: Operation not supported."09:21
bekksShal: Did you check wether the disk is going to fail soon and did you run fsck -f while everything is unmounted?09:22
dr_willisShal:  you said the drive was at  /media/mydrive09:22
ShalRory My HDD has been behaving fine before I tried to acess it through this live, so I really doubt its the physical drive09:22
bekksShal: BEhaviour can change. Think of kids.09:22
RoryShal: OK but don't say I didn't warn you. I'd recommend a backup at least.09:22
bekksShal: Did you check the physical state of the drive?09:22
Shaldr_willis I told you, I got a bunch of these, and that is the error trying to access one gives me. And when I went to media/mydrive the first time it dumped me into one of these09:23
nicolettehi Rory, what would you like me to do now?09:23
bekksShal: And which error...?09:23
Rorynicolette: Did it work?09:23
ShalI just said what error09:23
nicolettecreating a new profile fixes my issue, yes.09:23
Shalbekks, failed to mount "Adding read ACL for uid 999 to `/media/xubuntu' failed: Operation not supported."09:23
bekksShal: Then answer the question I asked please.09:23
nicolettewell it restores open source drivers09:23
Rorynicolette: Did you follow the instructions in the link I sent you, and have you rebooted since? Are you now looking at a fully functional Unity desktop, using the open source drivers?09:24
Shalbekks, I have not run some kind of test on the physical drive to confirm what I already know, it's fine. Aside from the error being a that of a mounting failure, and the timing of this being right when I am using a Live, I've experienced HDD failure before and know what it looks like09:25
nicoletteRory, I created a new profile, it does the same thing,09:25
Shalwhat it sounds like09:25
Rorynicolette: No it doesn't do the same thing.09:25
Rorynicolette: It's actually even better... Are you using fglrx now?09:26
ShalHDD almost never just completely die suddenly, and there are noisy as hell when they go09:26
bekksShal: Well, everything you told us tells us you have a hardware failure. I you dont want to believe it or at least check that, it is your choice. Good luck.09:26
nicoletteI'm on it again, but, I can go back to open source.09:26
bekksShal: They can die quietly.09:26
Rorynicolette: No don't! You wanted Unity working with fglrx and you've got it!09:26
dr_willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/202560/cant-mount-any-partition-due-to-usb-adding-read-acl-for-uid-1000-to-media-e09:27
nicolettenah unity broke again once I switched the driver back09:27
occi think someone might have been on my computer while i was out just now.... is there any command i can run that will show what programs were launched in the past hour and what time they were launched ?09:27
nicoletteI need to re-do the profile again09:27
Shalbekks, confirming it will be as simple as going to my regular installed distro, and I got nothing to back up onto except this tiny usb flash drive so if it was failing, nothing I can do about it09:27
dr_willisShal:  look there.. it seems you need to make a /media/YOURUSERNAME directgory for the system to auto-mount those partions to - IF you are using the gui09:27
Rorynicolette: Stay using the open-source driver then?09:27
nicoletteI have to have proprietary drivers for gaming09:28
bekksShal: No, you need a live cd/usb.09:28
dr_willisShal:  they changed in recent releases where  stuff the user mounts goes to  /media/theusername/diskname09:28
dr_williseach user has their own directory in  /media/ for their own mounts09:28
Shalbekks If I load back to my install and access is normal, you don't think that confirms the HDD is fine?09:29
bekksShal: No.09:29
Shalbekks how's that?09:29
bekksShal: Because a car _looking_ good maybe totally broken for real.09:29
bekksShal: To confirm it, check your drive, and, in addition, run fsck -f for every linux filesystem.09:30
ShalIf the car runs fine, except when you run it over speed bumps and you bounce up and down, then its probably the speed bumps and not the car09:30
bekksShal: However. Check your harddrive and check your filesystems. Nohing more to say until you did it.09:30
Shalbekks, Are you saying that accessing a HDD from a life flash drive is more stressful on it then operating from the OS on said HDD?09:31
bekksShal: No. I did say: Check your harddrive and your filesystems.09:31
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* dr_willis wonders if anyone saw the answer at -- http://askubuntu.com/questions/202560/cant-mount-any-partition-due-to-usb-adding-read-acl-for-uid-1000-to-media-e09:32
dr_williswell night all ;) work is  about done for the day09:32
ShalCan anyone take over for willis in helping me figure this out?09:32
dr_willisShal:  read the URL i posted09:33
bekksShal: Read his link would be a good start :)09:33
dr_willisit shows the exact error you ahve been saying....09:33
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ShalYeah but I need help with what is said there09:34
bekksHelp with what? Checking wether /media exists?09:34
dr_willisthey give the commands to use.09:34
dr_willismake a directory the same name as your user. make it owned by them..09:34
bekksShal: And they explain what they do...09:35
ShalWell for example "changing user owner and group owner of the directory", won't that screw up my installed distro?09:35
bekksShal: Not until you use "-R" ...09:35
Shalr?09:36
ShalWhats that do?09:36
bekksAnd since there is nothing mounted there, what should be screwed?09:36
bekksShal: "-R" is not "r". And -R is an option for chmod/chown. And you are told to not use it.09:36
Shaland it says to make and mount the directory, but that is exactly what I did. Nor does it explain why I have so many of these broken device listings, or why my mounted partition is empty and 4gb09:36
bekksShal: Thats not the intention of that link. It fixes the error message. Not your usage.09:37
bekksShal: Please read it completely.09:37
dr_willis!permissions | shal   Worth bookmarking and reading this url09:37
ubottushal   Worth bookmarking and reading this url: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions09:37
ShalI know you said -R, please don't get all semantical on me, I was just referring to what you said09:37
crocketAfter installing cinnamon-screensaver on ubuntu 13.04, I can't lock my computer via menu.09:38
crocketBut I can't lock it via Ctrl+AltL.09:38
crocketBut I can't lock it via Ctrl+Alt+L.09:38
crocketBut I can lock it via Ctrl+Alt+L.09:38
nicolette whew, I accidentally went into the Debian channel09:38
crocketWhy does ubuntu menu fail to recognize cinnamon-screensaver?09:39
nicoletteRory, I'm in Unity with open source drivers.09:39
nicolettewhat now?09:39
nicoletteI need fglrx working.09:39
Shaldr_willis, So if I use those commands, minus any r, it will have no effect at all on my installed OS?09:39
dr_willisShal:   looked like they were using the exact path to the directory.09:39
dr_willisif you are booted from a live cd/usb - then  /media/ is on the cd/usbs system.. not your installed system09:40
ShalSo is that a yes or a no?09:40
dr_willisyou are chowning the directory BEFOR you mount anything. so it cant affect whats on the hard drive befor its mounted09:41
nicoletteRory, are you there?09:41
dr_willistime to head home. bye all..  maybe back in about an hr.09:42
Shaldr_willis Also a reply says using 777 is bad advice, why would that be bad advice?09:43
Shalwhy could it be bad advice?09:43
bekksBecause 777 means "full access to everyone". You dont want that.09:44
bekksPlease read the link about permissions as he provided it to you.09:44
ShalI did09:44
wilad007Does anybody code in python here?09:44
ShalBut there is only so much I understood of it09:44
bekksShal: You did not understand it then.09:44
ShalSo?09:44
cfhowlett!python|wilad00709:44
ubottuwilad007: python is a popular Object Oriented scripting language included in Ubuntu. For more on Python please see http://www.python.org/ or #python09:44
ShalI am here for help, not criticism for lack of understanding.09:45
nicoletteSigh.. this  is such a waste of time.09:45
wilad007Anyone besides a bot...:-D09:45
bekksShal: Well, if you dont want to hear the answer, you get no answer (from me) anymore.09:45
Shalbekks, bottom line, what are some worse case scenarios with 777?09:45
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Shalbekks, Telling me to read the link I did not understand isn't a matter of not wanting to hear a answer, but not getting one in the first place09:46
wilad007sounds like a heated conversation09:46
ShalIs it?09:46
wilad007Any python guru's want to help a newbie out09:47
ShalWhat can happen if you set a directory for 777?09:47
cfhowlettwilad007, as noted earlier, python types are more prevalent in #python.  Best to seek them in their home turn.09:47
cfhowlett*turf*09:47
wilad007Yes I known, but they won't let you post unless you register you nickname which I tried but it failed. Sign.09:48
cfhowlettwilad007, solve that.  trying to get python guidance in the ubuntu channel is ... questionable.09:49
Shalcfhowlett, Well might you please help me?09:49
cfhowlettShal, 777 is completely over my head.  sorry.09:50
Shalcfhowlett, At all familiar with access error problems to partitions from live?09:51
bekksShal: Dr_Willis gave you the link with the solution to your problems.09:53
Shalbekks, please help or at least stop sabotaging my efforts to find help09:54
cfhowlettShal, I've experienced them only in passing.  hang out for awhile.  no doubt, someone more qualified than I will visit at some point.09:54
bekksShal: How much help do you want, in addition?09:54
ShalYou could answer my question for starters09:54
LuyinShal: if you did "not understand" a link, ask specific questions about what parts you're having problems with, don't ask us to give you a new explanation or other solution if that's the solution.09:55
Shaland stop acting like there is a magical link. There is a link that might be related to my issue, first I need to establish instructions safety before trying out. And even after that, it doesn't seem to be quit the same thing and might not fix it09:56
ShalI did luyin09:56
LuyinShal: doesn't look very much like it to me09:56
bekksShal: I answered your question about 777.09:56
bekksSo continue now please.09:56
ShalI will ask my question again. What are the issues with 777, what are the possible negative repercussions?09:57
dr_willis_on a single user system. not anything.09:57
dr_willis_use 750 if you want09:57
bekks(and 750 is mentioned in the article)09:58
Shaldr_willis_, doesn't mean any compromise with internet safety?09:58
jostHi! I've recently gotten a new machine. It works fine with windows, but with Ubuntu I experience random freezes. It is not due to overheating, and I doubt that it is a hardware problem, as windows runs fine. Any idea how to diagnose the problem?09:58
jostdmesg doesn't reveal anything09:58
dr_willis_Shal:  if people on the internet are getting to your files. you got bigger issues to begin with09:58
Shaldr_willis_ I mean it won't open me up to programs installing without permission or anything?09:59
dr_willis_Shal:  of course not.09:59
Shalwell obvious to you, but clearly not to me10:00
Shalwhich is why I asked10:00
LuyinShal: 777 means that every user on your machine has every permission set, nothing to do with the internet10:00
ShalLuyin, Which means the same as being logged in as admin?10:00
dr_willis_turn off your internet if you are worried10:01
Shaldr_willis_, I bristle at such sarcastic advice, please don't10:01
dr_willis_it may be time to read up on some linux permissions10:01
dr_willis_and its sound advice10:02
ShalIf it's anything like the link you gave me, it's no good. Too much I don't understand in order to comprehend the page in the first place10:02
LuyinShal: it means nobody with access to your machine needs to be logged in as root to change/read/execute this file10:03
Shaldr_willis_, Ok, once you turn off your PC, I will turn off my internet10:03
dr_willis_making a directory and setting its owner is rather simple in concrpt.10:03
dr_willis_my pc is off. im on my phone now.10:03
ShalYeah which leads me to believe that has nothing to do with my weird problems10:03
ShalI count your phone as the PC, anyway I was just matching sarcasm for sarcasm10:04
dr_willis_which weird problem now?10:04
ShalI described it before10:04
dr_willis_your acl error seemed identical to the askubuntu answer.  a directory is missing.10:05
ShalA population of icons giving strange errors. mounted drive that leads to a crowded 50 gb drive one time,(one of those that otherwise errors) and a empty 4gb the next10:05
dr_willis_make it. make it owned by your user. gui should Work10:05
ShalGUI as in DE, as in point and click?10:05
dr_willis_good luck. gotta catch my ride.10:05
LuyinShal: yes10:06
Shalyeah well its buggy as hell, as I mentioned10:06
Luyinwhich do you use? unity?10:06
ShalThis is xubuntu 12.10 running live, trying to access drives made under ubuntu 11.1010:06
Shala installed ubuntu 11.1010:06
Luyinshow me the link given to you, please10:07
Shalhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/202560/cant-mount-any-partition-due-to-usb-adding-read-acl-for-uid-1000-to-media-e10:07
Shalbut that isn't exactly the error message I get10:07
ShalAnd the symptoms are beyond just the error message10:08
Luyinok since I haven't been there, give me a minute to read tha backlog10:08
Shalhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount and file permissions (dang it, copy paste is acting up now)10:10
ShalOne other symptom to mention. My desktop is completely locked up10:13
LuyinShal: you are trying to access a hard drive from a live OS?10:13
ShalI can access things through taskbars and stuff, but one of the drives is highlighted, and I can not select anything else, or right click, or anything10:13
Shalmouse floats over it is all10:13
ShalYes10:14
LuyinShal: please open a terminal and tell me the output of mount10:14
ShalI got other stuff I want to do after that, but first I need to get over this10:14
ShalOk, please specify the mount command10:14
ShalI think the desktop froze up when I tried to access one of the listed drives off it10:15
LuyinShal: open a terminal, type mount and enter and paste it.10:15
Shaloh never mind, i figured out why the desktop was frozen10:16
Luyinstill give us the output of mount, please10:17
Shalhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6109805/10:17
LuyinShal: ls /dev | grep [sh]d[a-z][0-9] and blkid please10:19
jostHi! I've recently gotten a new machine. It works fine with windows, but with Ubuntu I experience random freezes. It is not due to overheating, and I doubt that it is a hardware problem, as windows runs fine. Any idea how to diagnose the problem? dmesg does not reveal anything...10:19
jostsorry for the repetition10:19
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Luyinjost: taking a look at /var/log could help for starters10:20
gordonjcpjost: what kind of graphics card does it have?10:20
jostLuyin: did that10:20
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crocketIs there a nautilus alternative that has a lot more settings?10:20
jostgordonjcp: nvidia geforce 9800GTX+10:20
crocketnemo is one, but it comes with cinnamon-screensaver.10:21
Shalhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6109809/10:21
gordonjcpjost: are you running noveau or the binary drivers?10:21
crocketcinnamon-screensaver deletes gnome-screensaver.10:21
crocketunity is hard-coded against gnome-screensaver.10:21
crocketWhat a bullshit DE unity is10:21
Shalhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6109812/10:21
jostgordonjcp: the drivers that come eith ubuntu (noveau i guess)10:21
gordonjcpjost: and it just freezes solid, no crash report or anything?10:22
Shalwell not a fan of unity myself, but I haven't tried its latest incarnation10:22
gordonjcpcrocket: why do you want to install cinnamon-screensaver?10:22
crocketgordonjcp, I don't want to install cinnamon-screensaver instead of gnome-screensaver.10:22
crocketnemo wants to install it.10:22
Shalthere you go Luyin , got both links?10:22
gordonjcpcrocket: oh, okay10:23
* gordonjcp quite likes Unity10:23
gordonjcpit's like the OSX desktop, but done right ;-)10:23
jostgordonjcp: yes, exactly - the screen freezes, the mouse doesn't move anymore10:24
gordonjcpjost: any evidence in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?10:25
gordonjcpjost: can you switch to a console when it's frozen?10:25
gordonjcpjost: or even shell in from another machine over ssh?10:25
jostgordonjcp: I have not checked whats in these logs - switching to a console does not work10:26
jost(can't check the logs right now, I'm on windows)10:27
crocketCan anyone recommend a file manager for unity packed with fine-grained settings?10:28
crocketnautilus is a menace.10:28
advisorhi all, is there a german-language ubuntu support channel?10:28
ShalLuyin Are you still there?10:28
Shalcrocket, What do you have against nautilus?10:29
crocketShal : autosearch10:29
crocketIt's very annoying10:29
crocketAnd it lacks a lot of configuration options.10:29
ShalWhat specifically about it is annoying?10:29
crocketShal : Haven't you used autosearcH?10:29
Shalyes10:29
ShalI have10:30
ShalBut I'm not you10:30
crocketautosearch should be replaced with file-matching.10:30
crocketfile-matching was the deafult.10:30
crocketautosearch is slow and annoying.10:30
ShalWhat's the difference?10:30
SinCoswhat is the 12.04 LTS ubuntus current kernel version??10:30
crocketShal : How could you be ignorant of differences after using it?10:30
crocketShal : It's one of the most annoying things.10:31
ShalI've never used file matching AFAIK though10:31
ShalSo I can't know the difference if I've only used one10:31
cfhowlett!kernel10:32
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)10:32
crocketShal : When you type "ha", nautilus used to match a file whose filename starts with "ha".10:32
RoryI dont think that did what you wanted it to, cfhowlett10:32
crocketIt just moved the focus to a file.10:32
SinCosdoes 12.04 have 3.8 kernel???10:32
crocketNow it searches automatically.10:32
cfhowlettRory, damn.  hoped on one would notice ...10:33
Rorycrocket: Oh, I saw an article about this the other day, let me dig it out for you10:33
jostgordonjcp, nothing in the XOrg or syslog10:33
crocketRory : Thanks10:33
RoryWTF Feedly wants to make me PAY to search my articles10:33
Shaland now it searches for a file starting with ha? that still doesn't tell me what the difference between matching and searching is10:33
RoryShal: matching will just jump to any file starting with that in the directory10:33
bekks!de | advisor10:34
RoryShal: Searching will do a recursive search and bring up a list of all matching files10:34
ubottuadvisor: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!10:34
crocketRory : nemo is superior to nautilus in every aspect, but it comes with cinnamon-screensaver. cinnamon-screensaver removes gnome-screensaver, and unity is hard-coded against gnome-screensaver.10:34
Rorycrocket: You could symlink cinnamon-screensaver to gnome-screensaver maybe?10:34
crocketRory : don't know10:34
ShalRory so matching only checks the start of files, where as searching uses the full files name?10:34
crocketRory : I can try. Anyway, what is the article?10:34
RoryShal: Yes, and matching only applies in the current directory10:35
ShalRory matching couldn't help you find a file with "ha" in its name, but doesn't start with "ha"?10:35
Rorycrocket: I'm trying to find it, but I can't search my Feedly10:35
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RoryShal: Correct10:35
schmackofatzhi, usually i use nm-applet to config my wireless and all that, but now i only have command line. is there a cli tool for network manager?10:35
ShalWell it sounds like matching is limited to make it quicker, and one should be able to use both10:36
gordonjcpschmackofatz: some hints here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo10:36
Rory!info nmcli10:36
ubottuPackage nmcli does not exist in raring10:36
crocketShal : If you type "ha" in previous version of nautilus, nautilus selected a file whose name starts with "ha" as if you clicked the file.10:36
Dr_Willis!info nm-cli10:36
ubottuPackage nm-cli does not exist in raring10:36
RoryDr_Willis: It's a command that's part of network manager anyway :)10:36
advisorthx bekks10:37
Dr_Williscrocket:  you mean this -> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/09/how-to-disable-recursive-search-in.html10:37
Roryschmackofatz: You want the command: nmcli [http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man1/nmcli.1.html]10:37
Dr_Willis!find nmcli10:37
Shalcrocket, Like I said, it sounds like it has some annoying limitations in trade of its speed10:37
ubottuFile nmcli found in network-manager, plasma-widget-networkmanagement, plasma-widget-networkmanagement-dbg, zsh, zsh-beta10:37
RoryDr_Willis: That was the article yes. I couldn't remember if it was OMG! or WebUpd810:37
crocketShal : Can you rephrase it?10:38
aantoonhi, i am trying to install a brother dcp165c printer. installed cups and drivers. all seems to be working but it will still not print. printer is recognized by ubuntu 12.04 just fine (as far as i can tell) but still not printing. what can i do?10:38
crocketDr_Willis, That's a nasty hack, but it would work.10:38
Dr_Williscrocket:  cant say that ive ever really used the feature in nautilus at all at any time :)10:38
Shalcrocket, It sounds like it should offer filematching for when its speed can be utilized, and searching for when filematching is inadequate/doesn't cover it10:39
crocketShal : There should be a separate search box.10:39
Luyinre10:39
LuyinShal: thank you, I got the pastes10:39
ShalOr a box toggle10:39
ShalI thought you had left :p10:40
ShalIts really late for me btw, so if I can at least get this one problem resolved before I log off.10:40
RoryShal: Honestly, learn to use the terminal - once you get used to managing files that way, all the squabbling about what nautilus is doing just sails over your head while you Get Stuff Done10:40
schmackofatzok - thank you all! nmcli is waht i was looking for.10:40
ShalWell searching for a file will be the same whether done through terminal or point and click10:41
RoryYes but nobody's going to drastically change the behaviour of the "find" command overnight10:41
RoryAnyway this is getting offtopic :P10:41
Shalis find, matching or search?10:41
Shalyeah, like the topic of figuring out why I am having trouble mounting my physical drive partitions to my live10:42
LuyinShal: do you receive an error message when mounting your hard drive?10:42
ShalLuyin, you just started reading those links the moment you came back?10:42
Shalyes10:42
crocketRory : Sometimes, a GUI file manager is more productive than a shell.10:42
ShalAdding read ACL for uid 999 to `/media/xubuntu' failed: Operation not supported10:43
crocketRory : I use a shell and a file manager both.10:43
ShalWell one problem with using terminal for things is you got to remember so many blasted things, and I struggle remember what I need to remember, I don't need to unnecessarily add more10:44
Shaland of course point and click is usually much faster10:44
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LuyinShal: it isn't, actually, as soon as you learn how to use it.10:45
Luyinhave you created the directory /mount/xubuntu before trying to mount to it?10:45
ShalThat is what it generates when I try to mount the drives shown on my Desktop and in file manager. I didn't specifically choose such a directory, its default10:46
LuyinShal: please show me ls /media. forget that about /mount, was crap.10:47
Shalhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/610988210:48
LuyinShal: sudo mkdir /media/xubuntu && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/xubuntu10:48
Dr_Willisthere is no /media/xubuntu directory is my guess.  the disks should be getting mounted to /media/xbuntu/drivename10:50
aantoonif i try to print something i get "Processing - "Waiting for printer to become available."10:51
ShalActually, just the first one worked, making that directory then click mounting it. I tried  before with the mydir I made and terminal mounting it, but it gave me funny results. Perhaps I just misunderstood something10:51
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LuyinDr_Willis: why should there? he just created it10:51
LuyinShal: what "funny results"?10:52
Dr_WillisLuyin:  i found an identical question  about this on askubuntu.com -  the directory was either not there, or had wrong permissions10:52
crockethmm10:52
LuyinDr_Willis: found that one too, that was the reason I wanted him to create /media/xubuntu and mount to it.10:52
Dr_WillisLuyin:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/202630/cant-mount-any-partitions-acl-error10:53
Shalit looked like one drive when I navigated to what I made one time, and another the second time, also its 4gb big, and I don't even have such a partition that small, except maybe on the flash drive and that shouldn't have mounted with what I used10:53
Dr_WillisLuyin:  but they are mounting to a directory under that directory - this is a new change to ubuntu in the last few releases.10:53
ShalIts strange that it would be assigned to mount to that directory, but not already have made that directory10:53
Luyinah, ok10:53
LuyinShal: have you tried to use the code from the link Dr_Willis just gave?10:53
Dr_WillisLuyin:  now why the xubuntu live cd dosent have it - no idea. could be it somehow got removed. and a reboot MIGHT bringit back10:54
ShalWhy should I? The problems been fixed10:54
Shalthankyou10:54
LuyinShal: it has? didn't get that. well then, you're welcome10:54
Dr_Willissounds like a bug  on the live cd - if it dosent make that directory10:54
ShalI just had to make the directory media/xubuntu10:54
Shalwhich it was defaulting to looking for10:55
ShalWell now that I got that fixed, theres the main issue I had originally wanted help with, getting xfce set up like gnome 210:56
ShalSomeone said its simple enough and quick enough to do, but then once we got into it, it didn't seem very quick or simple10:57
funkthi there would anyone know how I can hide my hidden folders it seems when I press ctrl- h or view> do not show hidden folders or even dconf > unticking show hidden folders nothng seems to actually work I am using ubuntu 12.04 I just would like to not have to go through zillions of folders in my home folder10:57
ShalDidn't help that my helper kept on going AFK10:57
LuyinShal: if you want gnome 2, why don't you just use it? since I've never used gnome 2, I won't be able to help you much there, especially as I'm about to leave.10:58
ShalBecause none of the latest releases have it10:58
ShalAnd if I use  a earlier release of ubuntu I got security issues, stuff that can't update or upgrade etc10:59
Dr_Willisactually gnome-shell 3.8+ i think a gnome-2 clone mode.   but ive not used it.10:59
LuyinShal: not by standard or not in the repos?10:59
Dr_Willisi cant even recall what gnome2 layout was.. panel at top? apps at the left side. clock on right.. what else.10:59
ShalI don't quit understand what you mean, but I start running into all sorts of problems with incompatibility and stuff10:59
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Shalgnome 2 is 3 menu trees on top, applications, places, systems. a bar for mounting app shortcuts, clock. that is on top11:00
Dr_Willishttp://www.instructables.com/id/Xubuntu-1304-GNOME-2-mimic/11:01
Shalon the bottom is a show desktop button, a task bar for open windows, then a 4 way screen switching thing on the right11:01
lapt0pCan someone remind me of the command for getting a GUI Window, after changing a certain path in Terminal?11:01
ShalI find it works very well, and XFCE is not close enough11:01
Dr_Willislapt0p:   you mean   'nautilus .'11:02
Dr_Willisor without the . perhaps. ;)11:02
Dr_Willisnautilus /path/to/open/11:02
LuyinShal: well XFCE can be configured to look exactly like that... go for settings > panel and set it up as you like, or right click on one panel and chose panel settings11:03
aantoondo i have to blacklist usblp?11:03
ShalThe biggest thing for me is the 3 menu trees11:03
ShalI hate having stuff crowded into one11:03
LuyinShal: I don't quite get what you mean by that. but you might want to check #xfce11:04
Shalwell and I don't begrudge the space of one bar, a autohide isn't really necessary for me11:04
ShalI mean, XFCE puts all its menu options into that blue and white circle icon11:05
ShalI see no point in squishing everything into it11:05
ShalI got a question, how come there are only 3 things in "systems" under that?11:06
Luyinwell I'm off now, see you later guys11:06
ShalI don't want it just to look like gnome 2, but function like it, and there are alot more menu items in systems then that11:06
Shalunder gnome 211:06
Dr_WillisShal:  i doubt you are going to get it identical in function.11:06
LuyinShal: that's because gnome thinks you're too thick to use all of them11:07
gordonjcpShal: there's gnome-fallback I guess11:07
ShalAnd I have heard something of a classic mode,  AKA gnome fallback?11:07
Dr_Willisand gnome-shell has its gnome2 look in gnomeshell 3.8+11:07
gordonjcpif you want a billion pointless things to fiddle with, use KDE11:07
Shalis that in 13.4?11:07
gordonjcpI'd be quite happy with having no control panel at all in Gnome or Unity, or even a menu bar11:07
ShalI don't need a billion pointless things, systems in gnome 2 was populated with useful functions11:07
gordonjcpjust a button in the middle of the screen saying "make it work"11:08
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ShalLike system monitor, settings for my video card, sound settings etc11:08
gordonjcpand as long as clicking that button made whatever I was doing work, that would be fine11:08
ShalWell "work" is a subjective concept11:09
gordonjcpShal: click the button and all my PMI reports appear, telepathically sucked out of my brain and typeset in a neat professional-looking way11:09
gordonjcpShal: or this bloody Python network code, all tidy and pythonic11:10
gordonjcp<click>11:10
gordonjcpgive it a minute11:10
gordonjcpdone11:10
ShalYeah, keep dreaming. Sounds like a nightmare to me though, I don't want no PC getting into my head11:10
gordonjcpthat's not coming until Gnome 4 though11:10
ShalYou mean gnome 40011:10
ubottuError: Gnome bug 400 could not be found11:10
ShalNo, you mean gnome 400011:10
ubottuError: Gnome bug 4000 could not be found11:10
Shaldamn nabbit stupid bott11:10
gordonjcpon a more serious note, I want to hack on a screen "reader" that can read and emit Morse code11:11
ShalWhich would be useful if your wall collapses on you, and your PC is fine, and you got a flashlight or something11:12
ShalI could just imagine it, please call 911 for me, "ok where do you live?" "ah well my 911 will be different then yours" etc11:12
lapt0pIs there a way to search through the all command line history? I mean, does it keep the history only from the last session, or from the day i started using it?11:13
Shalwell with terminal, you can press the up key to go to previous commands11:13
Shalbut its only good for that terminal window, and is lost once you close it11:13
lapt0pShal: Okay than, thanks :).11:14
Shaland down too to go forward11:14
schmackofatzlapt0p: .bash_history11:14
Shalyou can also cut and paste with mouse in terminal. Strangely the hotkeys don't work in terminal though11:14
schmackofatzlapt0p: or bashrc_history - not sure11:14
Shalnot the cut and paste ones I mean11:15
schmackofatzlapt0p: the size of that file is limited - somewhere you can set how many commands you want to keep in there11:15
Dr_Willislapt0p:  'history | grep pattern'  will let you search also11:15
eguerrahello11:15
aantoonhi, i am trying to install a brother dcp165c printer. installed cups and drivers. all seems to be working but it will still not print. printer is recognized by ubuntu 12.04 just fine (as far as i can tell) but still not printing. what can i do? if i try to print something i get "Processing - "Waiting for printer to become available." do i have to blacklist usblp? Google is no help at all :(11:16
lapt0pschmackofatz: Thanks, but where do i find that file?11:16
ShalSo is gnome-fallback in ubuntu 13.4 ? and is it a exact replica of gnome 2?11:17
schmackofatzlapt0p: it is in your home direcory. it is hidden, sorry i forgto to say that11:17
Dr_WillisShal:  none of them are 'exact' replicas11:17
Shalenable view hidden11:17
schmackofatzlapt0p: .bash_history11:17
lapt0pDr_Willis: This is the output: 18  history | grep pattern11:17
Dr_Willis!fallback11:17
lapt0pschmackofatz:Np, i will check that now11:18
Dr_Willis lapt0p  pattern is the pattern of what you are looking for.11:18
schmackofatzlapt0p: so usually yo do what what Dr_Willis said: cat ~/.bash_history  | grep something11:18
Shalwell I don't mean down to some excruciating detail or something. But does it have a fully populated system menu tree for example Dr_Willis ?11:18
Dr_Willishistory | grep ssh   -> show all my ssh commands11:18
bekksschmackofatz: useless use of cat ;)11:18
lapt0pOh, i forgot that grep was a searcing script :D11:18
Dr_WillisShal:  no idea. i dont bother with gnome2 any more. I imagine the 'defacto' gnome2 mode  will be the gnome-shell gnome2 look mode.11:19
Dr_Willislapt0p:  ;)11:19
ShalSo does 13.4 have the fallback in it?11:19
Dr_Willislapt0p:  bash has a very powerfull history features - but most people never notice them11:19
Dr_Willis!fallback11:19
Dr_Willis!nounity11:19
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic11:19
schmackofatzomg, i really have to chnage that coloring scheme of urxvt - people taking to me are written yellow on withe backgound - i can't read it11:20
ShalWhich version is natty?11:20
Dr_Willisevery release seems to have its own named gnome2 look. im on 13.10 testing right now.11:20
Dr_Willis!natty11:20
ubottuUbuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) was the fourteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on 2012-10-28, see http://ubottu.com/y/natty for details.11:20
ShalIs this gnome shell, the fall back, is it gnome 2 like?11:21
ShalOr is it gnome 3?11:21
Shalminus unity11:21
Dr_Willisyou use Unity OR gnome-shell. both are shells that run over gnome11:22
Dr_Willishttps://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.8/   'classic mode' screen shot11:23
lapt0pWhich skills are needed for me to develop a GUI? Which software is needed for the "visual" part?11:24
ufk_i installed icinga and icinga-web from pta. the web interface doesn't show any hosts11:24
Dr_Willislapt0p:  the gui part can be done in dozens of differnt ways. ;)   Python is a common 'starting language' to ease you into programming11:25
Dr_Willis!info gnome-shell-extensions11:25
ubottugnome-shell-extensions (source: gnome-shell-extensions): Extensions to extend functionality of GNOME Shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.6.0-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 126 kB, installed size 878 kB11:25
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lapt0pDr_Willis: So you say a good starting point will be learning Python, right? :)11:25
Dr_Willisseems the classic-mode for ghome shell is in the gnome-shell-extensions package from what i just read.11:25
Dr_Willislapt0p:  python is worth learning11:26
Dr_Willisfun python site -> http://pyweek.org/11:26
lapt0pDr_Willis: I have some experience and basic/medium knowledge in C and C++, is Python's "thinking" similar to their "thinking" ?11:27
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Dr_Willispython is object oriented, and very structrued.11:27
Dr_WillisC can be total chaos at times. ;P11:28
lapt0pOh, since its OO, its cool :D11:28
Dr_Willishttp://www.learnpython.org/11:28
lapt0pI mean, neat ;)11:28
Shalhmm seems classic mode doesn't even have systems11:28
bazhang!ot | lapt0p11:28
ubottulapt0p: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:28
ShalWhat the hell, I guess they decided to hide all the systems stuff on us11:28
Dr_WillisI come from an age befor there was 'OO' so the whole OO concept is a bit over my head, and needs. but a lot of ubuntu support tools, apps, and interfaces use python11:29
ShalDoing a windows on us and treating us like we can't be trusted to access our own ssytems11:29
bazhangShal, please take the running commentary to #ubuntu-offtopic11:29
lapt0pSorry about the offtopic, i just have to get used to the "rigor" :)11:30
ShalWell it's less about any running commentary and more to say, any other options for gnome 2 type setup while still keeping up to date?11:31
[FreeBSD]xfce is the most similar11:31
[FreeBSD]if you want the panels and gtk themeage11:31
Jakey[FreeBSD]: lol11:31
Jakeywhat are you doing in #ubuntu11:31
[FreeBSD]Jakey: what11:31
[FreeBSD]chatting11:31
Jakeyk what about #freebsd11:32
[FreeBSD]what about it11:32
ShalFreeBSD But I need to know how to set up "systems" under XFCE then11:32
Dr_Willisgnome classic mode - dosent use a system menu item. the far right 'user name' icon has a system settings button11:32
[FreeBSD]Shal: what do you mean by "systems"11:32
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Jakeyanyway i think need to customise ubuntu and its power management i know jupiter is a good tool11:32
LarzHello.11:32
Jakeyi just want to optimize my system or monitor the usage11:32
randy__hello11:32
Dr_Willisclick on name at top right, (your name) and select settings11:33
ShalI mean the menu tree systems, like in gnome 2, if you have used gnome 2 before, please think back11:33
LarzHow can I install PaX? (I have AppArmor installed, but now I want to install PaX too.)11:33
[FreeBSD]Larz: you need a custom kernel11:33
[FreeBSD]with the grsec patchset11:33
Dr_Willistheres a system-settings item under the applications menu here also.11:33
Larz[FreeBSD]: what?11:33
Larz[FreeBSD]: I use the 3.2.0 kernel.11:33
[FreeBSD]Larz: pax is in the kernel11:33
[FreeBSD]not a program11:33
Larz[FreeBSD]: I see.11:33
Larz[FreeBSD]: How can I check if I have PaX installed?11:33
[FreeBSD]Larz: you wont have if you're running the ubuntu kernel11:34
bekksLarz: You would know if you would have installed it, since its not in the ubuntu kernel.11:34
[FreeBSD]not sure if theres a ppa with a grsc enabled kernel or not11:34
Shal[FreeBSD],  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gnome2.30.0.png top left corner11:34
Larzbekks: How can I check it out though.11:34
[FreeBSD]you're probbaly better off patching a vanilla kernel and customizing the settings11:34
bekksLarz: Look at uname -a11:34
Shalafter applications and places11:34
LarzLinux ubuntu 3.2.0-48-generic-pae #74-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 20:05:01 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux11:35
Dr_WillisShal:  and which gnome-2 thing are you using exactly?11:35
Larzbekks: well?11:35
[FreeBSD]Larz: you can normally get away with nearly all the security settings on, but if you run nvidia binary drivers you will have to play with paxctl on a lot of stuff or disable some sec settings11:35
bekksLarz: If it shows an ubuntu kernel, you arent using pax.11:36
Tex_NickDr_Willis : may i PM you for a one line question ?11:36
ShalDr_Willis, Sorry, I don't understand the question11:36
jost_Hi again. Installing NVIDIA drivers doesn't prevent my machine from freezing... (context: My machine freezes regularly, but only under Ubuntu. Windows 7 runs fine. There is nothing in the logs, and I'm using NVIDIA graphics drivers).11:36
jost_Ideas how to get to the bottom of this?11:36
Larzbekks: how can I setup pax on my current distro?11:36
bekksLarz: Recompile your own kernel.11:36
Dr_WillisShal:  theres several differnt gnome 2 look alikes out there. which one are you using? I got the gnome-shell classic mode going11:36
Dr_WillisTex_Nick:  go for it. ;)11:36
Larzoh....11:36
[FreeBSD]Larz: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Grsecurity11:37
Larzdoes openbsd have pax installed by default?11:37
[FreeBSD]all you need to know is in there11:37
ShalDr_Willis, I am referring to the systems in actual gnome 2. According to screenshot, "Systems" is missing altogether in classic mode, and is replaced by "documents"11:37
[FreeBSD]no it doesnt use it11:37
[FreeBSD]Larz: its for linux11:37
Larzthen?11:37
bekksLarz: pax is linux-only. And you have to configure it manually.11:37
[FreeBSD]Larz: no point asking in here all you need to know is in that link i posted11:38
LarzDo you guys know of any linux distribution that has PaX and AppArmor enabled by default?11:38
randy__has anyone play11:38
bekksLarz: No.11:38
ShalDr_Willis, So do you see applications places system, or applications places documents?11:38
bekksLarz: You have to enable it yourself.11:38
randy__has any one play dota2 on ubuntu?11:38
Dr_WillisShal:  if you are refering to the gnome shell.  'classic mode' - yes  tere is No system settings menu item in the top panel. as i mentioned earlier - its in either the TOP RIGHT button/menu wher eyour users name is at. Or under the applications Menu -> 'system settings'11:38
Larzbekks: can I install/setup PaX on my current distro?11:38
bekksLarz: If you recompile your own kernel, sure.11:38
[FreeBSD]Larz: you're not going to get far unless you research stuff, or youll end up trying to do this kernel and not having a clue why stuff isnt working or breaking11:39
bekksLarz: Please read the article given.11:39
ikoniaLarz: look - enough, lets cut to the chase, you seem unable to grasp the simple instructions given to you in this channel - so don't do it11:39
ikoniaLarz: the fact that you don't even know its part of the kernel suggests you shouldn't be doing it, so move on from this11:39
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Dan-Ehow to I install adobe flash player for unity 13.04?11:40
bekks!flash | Dan-E11:40
ubottuDan-E: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash11:40
[FreeBSD]flash isnt specific to unity11:40
[FreeBSD]o i guess you meant ubuntu11:40
ShalDr_WiLlIs,  Would you please pull out that menu a few stages and take some screen shots so I can know what's in it11:41
Dan-Esyntax please11:41
bekksDan-E: Read the article.11:41
Dan-Ethanks11:41
[FreeBSD]Shal: in a terminal try typing gnome-[tab] it might be called gnome-system-settings or similar11:41
ShalYou don't mean the off, sleep, change users, options, right?11:41
ShalI'm not using gnome right now freebsd11:42
[FreeBSD]ok11:42
Dr_WiLlIsShal:  it has all the items the 'system settings' has only layed out in a vertical menu. and in alphabetical order. instead of  grouped.11:42
ShalI am trying to determine what DE environment would be best for giving me a gnome 2 like experience11:42
[FreeBSD]xfce11:43
[FreeBSD]like i said11:43
Dr_WiLlIspower, priinters, display. mouse , sound,   and  so forth11:43
[FreeBSD]Shal: what is it about gnome2 you like?11:43
Dr_WiLlIsgnome-shells classic mode - is similer to gnome2 - but defainatly differnt - and has some enhance3d featured11:43
[FreeBSD]there are a lot of faster, simpler and easier DE's out there11:43
ShalI like my menu options spread out, and not nestled in11:43
[FreeBSD]what do you mean by that11:44
Dr_WiLlIsgnome-shell has extensive number of extensions, that can add most features you may want11:45
ShalI mean for example with xfce, there's one menu button, a blue circle with some strange white thing in the center, for everything, aside from the hidout options along the bottom which sort of annoy me11:45
Dr_WiLlIshttps://extensions.gnome.org/extension/6/applications-menu/11:45
jost_Shal: you can customize the XFCE panels11:45
ShalI want to be able to go into a menu tree for system stuff without having to to to a special options window11:45
[FreeBSD]Shal: still dont get what you mean11:46
[FreeBSD]lol11:46
ShalOK are you using xchat?11:46
[FreeBSD]most big des like xfce etc have a settings11:47
[FreeBSD]im not no11:47
ShalOk let me get a screenshot for you then11:47
Shalor no, better yet a folder11:47
ShalWhen I open a folder under XFCE there are 5 menu trees along the top, though the last one doesn't really count. "file" "edit" "view" "go" "help"11:49
[FreeBSD]thats the file manager11:49
ShalNow imagine if that was all folded into one menu tree branch called file11:49
Shalyeah your missing the point11:49
[FreeBSD]they are standard buttons11:49
Shalthankyou captain obvious11:49
[FreeBSD]there are simpler ways to do things11:49
ShalYou are still missing the point11:50
bazhang!attitude | sha11:50
ubottusha: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines11:50
Dr_WiLlIs!screenshot11:50
ubottuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.11:50
shubbI just joined Shal, what are you trying to do?11:50
bazhangShal, ^11:50
ShalWell with XFCE, on desktop it IS all folded into one, that blue and white circle11:50
Shaltrying to get gnome 2 like experience yet be up to date with ubuntu11:51
jost_Shal, you can build custom menus in XFCE11:51
jost_and add custom launchers11:51
shubbhave you looked into Mate?11:51
shubbit's a moderngnome 211:51
ikoniait's not modern11:51
auronandaceshubb: mate isn't supported here11:52
ikoniait's a dead codebase that people are trying to keep alive11:52
[FreeBSD]i agree11:52
[FreeBSD]waste of time11:52
Ben64let gnome 2 die already11:52
ShalWell the other issue is, I want it to be layed out like gnome 2, that way if I come across a old guide, the navigation instructions can work11:52
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shubblol fair enough, gnome 3 is cool, but I think people can have the DE they want....11:52
Ben64Shal: why not use gnome-fallback or something like that?11:52
[FreeBSD]Shal: try openbox, panel like tint2, right click menu11:52
bazhangShal, this is way offtopic now, lets move on11:52
Shalfallback does not have systems11:52
Ben64what is "systems"11:53
Dr_WiLlIshttp://imagebin.org/270993  Gnome Shell _ Classic Mode - showing its menus.11:53
imarkikonia: Ben64: Mate is in active development, its far from dead.11:53
ikoniaimark: the codebase is dead11:53
Shalbazhang, I don't know why you suddenly decided to pick on me, but I have not said anything with "attitude" or whatever11:53
shubbimark: I think it is more of a philosophical thing here11:53
imarkikonia: Mate is it's own codebase11:53
Shaland this isnt off topic, the topic is trying to figure out how to get the ubuntu experience I desire11:53
ikoniaimark: it's not written from the ground up11:53
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bazhangShal, time to wrap up your shopping for a perfect DE11:53
[FreeBSD]Shal: what de are you using now?11:53
ShalWell right now I am using a live xfce 12.1011:54
Shalxubuntu11:54
[FreeBSD]ok, might be easier to post a screenshot of the problem11:54
[FreeBSD]whats bothering you11:54
imarkikonia: Doesn't matter, its a free standing project now with active development, it's not depending on any other projects to keep it alive11:54
k2__Hello all, anyone have any expirience setting a speech recognition software like dragon on 12.04 i tried julius and simon with no luck so far11:54
[FreeBSD]as you can normally customize most stuff11:54
Ben64imark: it's dead, you can argue about it, but either way its unsupported here11:54
ikoniaimark: the gnome2 code base is dead - applications are not designed for it, people can fork and maintain that all they want, but it's dead.11:54
ShalI can show you a screen shot of gnome 211:55
ikoniaShal: we know what gnome2 looks like11:55
[FreeBSD]Shal: post screenshot of the thing thats bothering you11:55
shubbk2__: not me, but I'd be really interested to hear when you do get something working (been thinking about doing it)11:55
TimvdeIs there a way to either a) change the current terminal profile or b) close a terminal window (so I can open a new window with a new profile) from within a script?11:55
auronandace[FreeBSD]: i don't think he has a problem, he just wants xfce to be like gnome2 with a seperate system menu11:55
ShalWell Im not trying to get gnome 2, I got no specific loyalty to it, just set up like gnome 211:55
Shalpretty much11:55
Ben64Shal: if you explained exactly what you want it would really help11:55
Shaland other things like it, but the system one seems to be trickiest11:55
ShalI keep trying ben11:55
Ben64no, you don't11:56
Shalnot for a lack of effort11:56
JakeyShal:  i just remove unity and install cinnamon11:56
ShalYEs, i have11:56
k2__ive been researching for days i hope i get it julius is so complicated11:56
imarkBen64: ikonia: Okay this is not the place, but because Gnome2 is dead does not make all of its forks dead too, as I say Mate is completely independent now. That's my last on that matter11:56
ShalIs cinnamon like gnome 2?11:56
LarzI have AppArmor Installed, but I am willing to secure my system more, I ran a paxtest and I am not impressed by the results, how can I make my results better and make my linux system kill those stuff? Here are my results: http://pastebin.com/qfupaSaq11:56
Ben64Shal: "the system one" "blue and white circle" ... how are we supposed to know what you're talking about?!11:56
auronandaceShal: cinnamon is a gnome3 fork that is meant to be like gnome211:56
* Dr_WiLlIs wondered if his screen shot was close enough to gnome2 ;)11:56
Shalyou would if you use xubuntu, and I was talking to at least one person who said they were currently using it11:57
bekksLarz: Read more about pax, what it is, how it works, how to set it up.11:57
JakeyShal: yes11:57
[FreeBSD]Larz: pax will help on that but like i said read the link on doing your own kernel, or find a ppa with a prebuilt one11:57
Jakeytry it out11:57
auronandaceBen64: he means the menu button (blue circle with white mouse in it (xubuntu))11:57
Larzbekks: I don't want to install pax.11:57
[FreeBSD]Larz: stop asking then11:57
bekksLarz: Then why do you mess with it?11:57
bazhanghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1871989   <----- how to make xfce look like gnome2 Shal read it11:57
ShalA mouse, is that what it is, then yeah, that11:57
[FreeBSD]pax helps prevent exploits, apparmor contains damage11:57
LarzI am just using paxtest to determine my level of security, are you stupid?11:57
LarzI am saying, how can I kill those things?11:57
Larzthe ones saying "Vulnerable"11:58
LarzHow can I make those functions, to Killed?11:58
[FreeBSD]Larz: by using an exploit prevention like "pax"11:58
bekksLarz: paxtest tests on pax functionality. You dont use pax, so it is useless.11:58
Dr_WiLlIsxubuntus mascot is a 'mouse' ;)11:58
[FreeBSD]bekks: its not useless11:58
Dr_WiLlIswell xfce's mascot is. xubuntu is a mouse in a blue ball.11:58
[FreeBSD]bekks: its still useful on a non pax system11:58
[FreeBSD]for info anyway11:58
jostShal: you can add more menus like that, but you may remove/change that icon, replace it by a text, etc.11:58
bekksFloodBot1: The result will always be "vulnerable".11:59
jostisn't that sufficient to get what you want?11:59
LarzExecutable anonymous mapping (mprotect)  : Vulnerable - Is there anyway to make this "killed"11:59
ShalWell the systems menu tree will be trickiest11:59
ShalI want it to be laid out the same11:59
[FreeBSD]Larz: by enabling pax and the "mprotect" option11:59
bekksLarz: Yes, by using pax.11:59
[FreeBSD]Larz: you dont seem  to udnerstand11:59
Dr_WiLlIsshal this is close. but its under the applications menu. http://imagebin.org/270993  Gnome Shell _ Classic Mode - showing its menus.12:00
LarzCan I use PaX alongside AppArmor?12:00
[FreeBSD]yes12:00
[FreeBSD]as long as you dont enable rbac12:00
LarzRBAC?12:00
[FreeBSD]which is like apparmor but more powerful12:00
bekksLarz: resource based access control.12:00
[FreeBSD]its like apparmor but it profiles everything, read the link12:00
jostShal: As far as I can tell from screenshots (haven't used gnome 2 in a long time), it should be not that hard to get XFCE to look like it12:00
ShalDr_WiLlIs, not closer because it doesn't have a systems menu at all12:00
bekks*role, not resource.12:01
[FreeBSD]Larz: read the grsec link, its all in there12:01
Dr_WiLlIsShal:  it has a MENU in the applications menu.12:01
[FreeBSD]Larz: as theres too mcuh to explain in here also its probably offtopic12:01
ShalI want it to be out of the applications menu then12:01
Dr_WiLlIsShal:  and it can use all the gnome-shell extensions that can ad dother things to the top panel12:01
Jakeycinnamon looks way better than gnome or xfce12:01
LarzHow can I setup a custom kernel and install PaX alongside AppArmor?12:01
bekksLarz: Read the link.12:01
ShalCan cinnamon be used in any ubuntu distro now?12:01
[FreeBSD]Larz: stop messing around12:01
Dr_WiLlIsShal:  so find a gnome-shell extension  i guess. i dont see the point in worrying about a menu you might use 2 times a day12:01
Larzwhat was the link again?12:01
[FreeBSD]https://grsecurity.net/12:02
[FreeBSD]"Documentation"12:02
auronandaceShal: perhaps it is time to try to adapt your workflow to more modern desktop environments, honestly just try it for a little while12:02
ShalJakey, Can cinnamon be used in any ubuntu distro now?12:02
auronandaceShal: cinnamon is available in the repos for 13.0412:03
Dr_WiLlIscinnamin at one time could cause severe breakage in some ubuntu releases12:03
Dr_WiLlIsi wouldent suggest trying it in anythng other then 13.04+12:03
Ben64cinnamon is supported now12:03
Shalauronandace, The definition of modern seems to be hiding system settings because they don't trust us with them or something:p12:03
Ben64!info cinnamon12:03
ubottucinnamon (source: cinnamon): Innovative and comfortable desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.4-1 (raring), package size 607 kB, installed size 2460 kB12:03
Dr_WiLlIsmoveing a menu to a diffnet submenu is not hideing it.12:03
auronandaceShal: no, the system settings are there, under settings12:03
ShalWell then mimicing windows then :p12:03
Dr_WiLlIseverything is  getting away from the huge bar of cluttered menus for a nested menu look.12:04
JakeyShal: yes latest cinnamon on ubuntu 13.0412:04
k2__is 13.04 more stable than 12.04?12:04
Jakeyi'm using it right now12:04
Shalwith its giant singular menu12:04
Dr_WiLlIsk2__:  depends onyour hardware i imagine12:04
Ben64k2__: 12.04 is LTS, so i'll go with "no"12:04
auronandaceShal: and as has been pointed out to you several times there are toold that allow you to make your own menus under xfce if you so desire12:04
randy__both easy to use12:04
Shalnested menus may look better to some, but are more of a pain to use12:04
Dr_WiLlIsk2__:  if you have a laptop that came out after 12.04 and is very new - it might run better on a newer release.12:04
k2__ive never had issues with 12.04 i like it a lot compiled it from source from 812:05
bazhang!brainstorm | Shal then file something12:05
JakeyShal: http://askubuntu.com/questions/292394/how-to-completely-remove-unity-and-replace-it-with-cinnamon12:05
JakeyShal: where are you from btw12:05
JakeyShal: india?12:05
ubottuShal then file something: Post your ideas for Ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!12:05
Dr_WiLlIsis brainstorm even still up? ;)12:05
k2__i have a desktop ive done about 15 ubuntu installs and one fedora im working on android ubuntu atm12:05
Jakeyis there an article what ubuntu improve/change debians distro that makes it diff\?12:06
Jakeyi like to know12:06
randy__i wanna ask a question12:07
jostrandy__: do it.12:08
randy__dota2 runs bad on ubuntu12:08
randy__i 'v installed the latest intel12:09
auronandacerandy__: that is a statement, not a question12:09
randy__driver on ubuntu12:09
bekksrandy__: Intel what? CPU, grahics driver, wireless chipset?12:09
ShalI was trying to adjust xfce earlier and this happened http://i.imgur.com/7z1lKX8.png?1 a big open space on the right that I can't seem to do anything with, on the bar12:09
randy__ grahics driver12:10
Shalhow do I fix this/get ride of this unusable space?12:10
Dr_WiLlIsthe xfce panel has 'spacer' items you can remove/move12:10
auronandaceShal:  insert a seperator12:10
jostShal: add a "separator"-item, and check the "expand" checkbox in its settings12:10
bekksrandy__: And whats your question then?12:10
Dr_WiLlIsi wonder if any of the docks in the repos have a gnome-2 look to them.12:11
Dr_WiLlIs!dock12:11
ubottuUbuntu includes several dock-like navigation bars. Some options are: avant-window-navigator, cairo-dock, docky (formerly part of gnome-do), stalonetray, simdock, kdocker, kooldock.12:11
Dr_WiLlIswell bbl.12:11
randy__in dota2 trees and some hero cant see,and game quit automaticly after play a while or after loading game12:11
k2__using opengl?12:12
randy__yes12:12
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Shaljost, auronandace I found the separator add, but when I clicked to add it, it put a moving red dotted line around the task bar, and didn't seem to add in or anything, and I don't see any "settings" to to expand for it12:13
k2__i had that problem on WoW and any game really all i did was get the driver for 3d acceleration12:14
k2__before i did that i would get gpu lockup12:14
randy__what's the last word mean12:14
k2__GeForce 6150 LE/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!12:15
k2__and i have an Ati radeon graphics card12:16
auronandacerandy__: a lockup for a graphics card means it froze12:16
randy__intel driver include mesa the 3D lib12:16
randy__ty12:16
k2__intel drivers are unreliable to say the least12:17
Ben64what? intel has some of the best drivers for linux for quite a while12:17
Shalhello?12:17
randy__my graphics card is intel HD400012:17
Shaljost, auronandace I found the separator add, but when I clicked to add it, it put a moving red dotted line around the task bar, and didn't seem to add in or anything, and I don't see any "settings" to to expand for it12:17
k2__just in my expiriencei had more trouble getting them to work12:18
k2__without bugs12:18
auronandaceShal: once you added it right click the separator and you'll find the settings (when you add items to a panel they will normally be put at the end, move it to where you want it)12:20
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ShalI don't see any separator to click, though I don't even know what/if I added12:21
auronandaceShal: it is a thin vertical line12:21
randy__after some google work i  update mesa to 9.2 then i can see tress and heros ,but game auto quit almost every load in .before this i can play a while .....12:22
ShalI only see the moving red dotted line around the outside of the panel auronandace12:22
auronandaceShal: or just open up the panel settings and you can do it all from there12:23
auronandaceShal: the red outline shows the currently selected panel12:23
ShalWelll Im looking, still not seeing a way to fix this space on the right12:23
A1ReconUbuntu is frozen..... I was taking some backup...Any ideas how I can get it back to normal....?12:24
A1ReconAround 250 GB of data....12:24
bazhang!details | A1Recon12:24
ubottuA1Recon: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:24
randy__i have a problem with dota212:25
A1ReconI am running Ubuntu 13.04 and the system froze when I was taking a backup of 250 GB from my internal to my external HDD...12:25
A1ReconAny way that I can kill some processes?12:26
bazhangA1Recon, copying how? rsync? sbackup? other?12:27
bazhangrandy__, how did you upgrade mesa to 9.2 exactly, and where did you get the intel drivers from12:27
A1ReconBazhang just copy and paste....12:27
bazhangA1Recon, thats not going to work12:28
A1ReconBazhang it was working .... now its hung up...12:28
bazhangA1Recon, that doesnt sound like "works" if it stopped12:29
bazhangA1Recon, what were you copy and pasting12:29
A1ReconBazhang... how do I get the system back into my control.....12:30
randy__i get intel driver form this site https://01.org/linuxgraphics/12:30
bekksrandy__: Thats not an intel website.12:30
A1ReconBazhang I was taking a backup of some media and doc files...12:31
bazhangA1Recon, were you doing a system backup?12:31
randy__it's intel open source12:31
bazhangrandy__, how did you upgrade mesa12:31
bekksrandy__: Thats not an intel website.12:31
bazhangA1Recon, what are the FS in the two hdd12:32
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A1ReconYes system backup and NTFS in both....12:33
A1ReconBazhang^12:33
randy__i dont remeber the detail ,i download a file form mesa git issue,someone provide a version of mesa12:33
bazhangA1Recon, how is this ubuntu related if both are ntfs12:34
bazhangA1Recon, are you using wubi?12:34
randy__bekks,i am not sure,it's intel web site or not12:34
bazhangrandy__, likely your "fixes" caused more harm than good12:34
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A1ReconBazhang 2 internal HDDs and one external HDD. One internal and one external is NTFS.12:36
BluesKaj'Morning folks12:38
randy__yes bazhang,i'v searched every corner in the net12:38
A1ReconBazhang I am running it in Ubuntu 13.04 now.... and the system is hung up. Can you just tell me how to get it back into control......12:38
lolahola12:39
A1ReconBazhang...... how do I get the system back...12:40
Eduard_MunteanuAre the release / image signing keys' fingerprints posted on the wiki or some other https page?12:41
emenjoin #apache12:41
A1ReconCan I switch off the system as in pull the plug....12:41
A1ReconBazhang can I switch off the system as in restart but using the switch on the cabinet....12:43
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A1ReconAnyone here.....12:46
bekksA1Recon: /names shows a large list.12:47
dampjamIs there a way to disable discover on install?  Whenever it tries to load up a bunch of drivers on my MacbookAir6,2 it's crashing the kernel12:50
bekksdampjam: Without discovering, it found know where to install.12:51
DarkShadowsnql12:53
DarkShadowcristian12:54
DarkShadowdevelop12:54
dampjamI just want to avoid it from loading wifi or network dirvers12:54
DarkShadowdampjam12:54
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dampjamDarkShadow12:55
DarkShadowsurferboy12:55
DarkShadowyes sampjam12:55
ShalSomeone posted a link earlier for convering xfce to gnome 2 like, but I can't seem to find it12:55
Jakeythere is no such thing as a free lunch12:57
Jakeyeven for FOSS12:57
Jakeyor opensource or linux12:57
Jakeyits not free someone has to pay12:57
Jakeyso why its diff than MS12:57
Jakeynone12:57
UserErrorJakey12:58
UserErrorDo restaurants grow food?12:58
DarkShadowwhy to reject12:58
UserErrorSomeone has to pay.12:58
DarkShadowmo@userERRoR12:58
aantoonhi, i am trying to install a brother dcp165c printer. installed cups and drivers. all seems to be working but it will still not print. printer is recognized by ubuntu 12.04 just fine (as far as i can tell) but still not printing. what can i do? if i try to print something i get "Processing - "Waiting for printer to become available." do i have to blacklist usblp? Google is no help at all :(12:59
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JakeyUserError: still13:02
JakeyUserError: customers has to pay13:02
JakeyUserError: irrevelant13:02
UserErrorYes, my model and example were perfect.13:02
Jakeyno its not13:02
UserErrorIt is called the service industry13:02
UserErrorWhich is exactly what OS companies do13:02
UserErrorthey code to their own service propagation13:03
UserErrorYou asked a question and told me the answer was wrong13:03
Jakeyits the same thing ms doing13:03
UserErrorThat is a logical fallacy13:03
UserErroraffirming the disjunct13:03
Jakeywho would be doing this huge project for free13:03
UserErrorThey aren't13:03
UserErrorIf you know anything about OSS you know they get paid by service contracts and funding from companies that don't want to13:03
BluesKaj!ot13:04
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:04
JakeyBluesKaj: yeah i just don't know where else to rant this13:04
Jakeyi see the flaw in this free software opensource stuff13:05
UserErrorA little bit of knowledge is poison13:05
Jakeyppl think they are using the stuff for free but actually they aren't13:05
UserErrorcome to #ubuntu-offtopic13:05
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gregor3005hi, i try to build a little server which has nfs shares for the home folder and the users should login to the server like m$ active directory, it should also be possible to set folder rights for the users from the ldap directory. which software are preferred for this?13:08
gregor3005aso additional feature later i will combine this with my radius server for wifi. currently i use only the raduis users file13:09
gregor3005when it is finished it will be the new server for the firefighters in my town :-)13:10
Shalin xfce for panel, what do system settings look like/where are they?13:10
gregor3005sry wrong channel13:10
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letalishey guys i was curious if the addon for screen (or perhaps it was another screenlike program) is still in ubuntu that would give you a status bar with a clock and wifi status and things like that. im having trouble finding it in 13.0413:17
letalisanyone know if its still around it was pretty useful13:18
evilpoptarthi - i have an ubuntu 12.04 install that's using 3 primary partitions (sda1-3 for boot, root, swap) and I want to move /boot onto / without reinstalling.  From a rescue CD can I create a new /boot directory in the / partition with the same contents as the separate partition, redo /etc/fstab, run grub-install and still be good to go?13:22
unknown101i have downloaded nvidia geforce 9800 gt from nvidia's official site the downloaded file is caled NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-319.49.run how i install it?13:27
letalisevilpoptart: as long as boot is not setup to actually be where it looks for the kernel, i dont see any reason why you couldnt do that.13:28
unknown101i have downloaded nvidia geforce 9800 gt from nvidia'sofficial site the downloaded file is calledNVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-319.49.run how i install it?13:29
jrib!nvidia | unknown10113:30
zykotick9unknown101: is there not a 314 version in ubuntu?13:30
ubottuunknown101: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto13:30
unknown101okay13:31
unknown101!system]13:32
unknown101!system13:32
unknown101where i can find system...Sorry new here13:32
jribunknown101: I don't know in unity, but run the "jockey-gtk" command13:33
rickyrayjayhad an issue with monitor, possibly a resolution setting that didnt revert to original? i connected NETBOOK (low resolution) to HDTV and used "display" in menu to set up options. chose the highest resolution for TV. Then, before disconnecting, chose option to "don't use TV display" and yes to use netbook display, but i never physically chose the lower resolution for netbook. when i rebooted this morning, FF widow and File Browser windows are overlayed13:33
rickyrayjay off the screen and i have no control of moving them. they covered menu button as well. and mouse cursor would display a black X in areas that should allow a resize...13:33
jribunknown101: actually, isn't it a tab in "software sources" now?  Check there13:33
bwayneletalis: something like this? it's based upon screen, but more easily configurable. it used to be named screen-profiles. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Byobu13:33
rickyrayjaysorry for the book here, but just wanted to cover the details  and hope for someone with a solution13:34
rickyrayjayonly thing i can figure is that i did not physically chose the lower resolution when disconnecting from HDTV. is there a way to change screen resolution in boot setup? or someone have the commands thru terminal if i can somehow get it to open? (im new with commands, i know a few, but no idea on resolution settings13:36
paul_hi everyone13:36
letalisbwayne: thanks man i knew it was something else and i thought it was awesoem when i was just using the terminal because of the hud it gave me.13:36
paul_is there anyone who can help me with the ubuntu installation on a lenovo with win 8? I get grub-install fatal error13:37
bwayneletalis: screen's pretty nice.  i prefer tmux nowadays. it'd be interesting to get all of those status bar featuring in tmux like that.13:37
rickyrayjaypaul_: newer hardware needs to have "secure boot" disabled under "setup" on boot13:38
zykotick9bwayne: i have load and time/date in my tmux "status bar"...  no wifi (network) though :(13:38
paul_i did , also tried with legacy option13:39
paul_but then everything leads to the error13:39
bwaynezykotick9: right now i just have hostname, date, and time. pretty bland. but i'm usually using the terminal within a WM which has all of that stuff anyway.13:39
rickyrayjaypaul_ im kinda new at this so dont know much else besides google, or trying diff setups/settings/options on boot setup13:40
letalisexit13:40
paul_i read about the installation procedure13:40
gordonjcppaul_: are you installing to the correct drive, first?13:41
paul_it said to create a /boot partition of 250 MB , i created one and i set boot loader to the one just created (which is not sda, but a different one ) , could it be this the problem?13:42
fanshaweHello everyone. I was wondering if there are any differences between the Sun and OpenJDK Java installations available for Ubuntu. I'm mainly looking to just run a game called Minecraft. Is there a particular set of packages I should go with? Ideally I'm looking for the most conservative with space.13:42
paul_i don 't know, that s why i am asking13:42
gordonjcpthe boot loader should go on /dev/sda13:43
gordonjcpat least, assuming you are installing to /dev/sda13:43
paul_i read not to since it would override the windows boot loader13:44
paul_on the guidelines13:44
guest-YR3YGrIt seems like i did something wrong. lapt0p here, just logged in from a Guest Account. I wanted to open a GUI interface from the command line, i wrote "startx", after choosing a certain path and after that a black screen appeared. I rebooted, and i now can't login to my account, even if i provide the correct password, it just blinks a black screen and it's taking me to the login screen again. I can only login with a guest account. How am i able to13:44
guest-YR3YGrfix this? Thanks in advance.13:44
paul_there was the procedure to create a new boot partition and set the bootloader to this new partition13:44
gordonjcppaul_: but then you add Windows to the GRUB bootloader13:44
gordonjcppaul_: or something, it's been a couple of decades since I last had to install Windows13:45
paul_and then use the easy bsd tool13:45
paul_the problem is with uefi13:45
paul_i think13:45
paul_i would like to keep both win  8 and ubuntu for now13:46
zykotick9fanshawe: if i where you, i'd research if minecraft runs properly in openjava (i'm guessing it might not, but no personal experience).13:47
l01paul_: what is the error message? if you install grub from the terminal by chrooting, what is the error message?13:47
paul_i did not try chrooting13:47
paul_i am installing from usb flash13:47
paul_then it goes to the fatal error while installing13:47
paul_should i try chrooting as i get to the kubuntu installation screen13:48
paul_?13:48
l01Well, try it, and give us the exact error message13:48
l01since "fatal error" is not much descriptive13:48
paul_i know13:48
paul_i ll try, need 10 mins13:49
fanshawezykotick9: From what I can find, OpenJDK seems to work well enough with Minecraft. If its the smaller option (space-wise) I think I'll go with that. I just thought I'd check first.13:49
seventhsamuariOptical Mouse Question: I have Logitech wireless mouse that works perfect when my laptop is connected to a power source but as soon as I disconnect it the mouse will lag after not touching it for a few seconds. Any idea why this happens? I have checked my power setting but I haven't found anything. I could't find anything online either.13:51
zykotick9fanshawe: i doubt there is much difference in size between the two.  BUT, i'd guess that the JDK is a lot bigger then the JRE, if space is that limited for you...13:52
kota[Kat]this one has me confuzzled: laptop w/ Intel graphics, ubuntu 12.04 LTS, graphics worked fine in the USB live install, but after reboot, black screen? :|13:52
fanshawezykotick9: Thank you. If there's a way to install only the runtime environment, I'd be really grateful, but I'm not sure how.13:52
zykotick9fanshawe: sorry, i personally avoid java.  but see "/msg ubottu java" for some details.  good luck.13:53
fanshaweA new question then: When I follow the link to install the Open JDK runtime environment (from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java), my browser asks me to select an application to open the package. Where should I navigate to/what should I choose?13:57
nikolai__java is useless crap:)13:58
dumnuthi, i just bought  a new lenovo with windows 8, i waant to install ubuntu 12.04. but microsoft is really monopolistic and will not let me boot from dvd drive. i looked at forums posts pressing del f2 f12 but none works, help please?13:58
nikolai__dumnut, you should have made the dvd bootable13:59
nikolai__dumnut, make sure you burn it with software that specializes in burning .iso files13:59
nikolai__dumnut, not the standard buring tools14:00
seventhsamuariisn't there a a key you can hold down to force the boot from cd?14:00
nikolai__that doesnt work if you didnt burn it properlty14:00
nikolai__properly14:00
dumnutnikolai__: hmm, i will get software buring iso files, thank-you for the tip14:01
seventhsamuariOptical Mouse Question: I have Logitech wireless mouse that works perfect when my laptop is connected to a power source but as soon as I disconnect it the mouse will lag after not touching it for a few seconds. Any idea why this happens? I have checked my power setting but I haven't found anything. I could't find anything online either.14:01
zykotick9nikola: ahhh, burning software that can't to ISOs properly?  does that even exist (in gnu/linux, i might believe it in windows).14:01
lapt0pCan someone tell me, what kind of graphics card drivers come pre-installed with Lubuntu? Are they generic drivers, or Lubuntu is "smart" to detect your graphics card and find drivers for that particular model?14:01
l01fanshawe: it should open the Ubuntu Software Center14:02
zykotick9lapt0p: xorg comes with probably hundreds of graphics drivers out of the box?14:03
lapt0pseventhsamurai: What is the working frequency of the mouse? Is it in the 2.4 GHz range or 5 GHz?14:03
fanshawel01: Unfortunately it doesn't. It asks me what application I'd like to use to open 'apt links'. Is there any way I can choose Ubuntu Software Centre?14:03
l01fanshawe: if it doesn't, open manually USC and type the package name at the top right14:03
fanshaweThank you, I'll try that14:04
l01by "manually" I mean by means of the system's Applications menu14:04
seventhsamuari2.414:04
unknown101how can i install the nvidia drivers i just downloaded?14:05
unknown101I am running ubuntu 13.0414:05
zykotick9unknown101: it's a bad idea to use nvidia.com's driver actually...  using the ubuntu version would be WAY better.14:05
lapt0pzykotick9: Thanks, i am asking this because some pictures used to appear more clear on Windows 7, compared to Lubuntu..14:06
unknown101well how can i download ubuntu version drivers?14:06
lapt0pseventhsamurai: It may interfere with wireless routers which are placed near your wireless mouse station14:06
lapt0pseventhsamurai:Not the case if your Wi-Fi routers are in the 5 GHz range.14:07
zykotick9unknown101: have you tried nvidia-current (304), is there a reason to require 314?14:08
unknown101I have nvidia 9800 gtx and i want to install it'd drivers...I believe will work better14:09
zykotick9unknown101: there is an #nvidia channel that may be able to give you directions.  personally, i'd consider your ubuntu to be "broken" if you use nvidia.com's driver.  good luck, you might need it.14:12
unknown101This is why i sometimes hate ubuntu14:13
Eduard_Munteanuunknown101: don't install drivers from nvidia.com, use Ubuntu packages.14:13
unknown101how i can get them..?14:13
Eduard_Munteanuunknown101: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia14:14
unknown101how i can go to system->administration-->additional driver14:15
Eduard_Munteanu"Note: In newer version of Ubuntu, older graphic adapters may not be supported with the repositories provided driver." -- that's odd... there should be a legacy driver version14:16
BluesKajunknown101,  software center > additional drivers14:16
zykotick9BluesKaj: i see nvidia-current is using 304, are there other versions listed in additional drivers?14:17
BluesKajunknown101, usually the nvidia-current driver is correct for your card14:17
Eduard_MunteanuThe GPU is a bit old though.14:18
BluesKajzykotick9, I'm on 13.10 ,but i beleive the nvidia-313 driver should be available for 13.0414:18
Eduard_MunteanuBest Google for the release notes and check if it supports it.14:18
zykotick9BluesKaj: ya on 13.10 that would make sense ;)14:19
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Eduard_MunteanuWhat's Canonical's relationship with / involvement in Ubuntu releases?14:26
Eduard_MunteanuDo they sign releases in any way?14:27
ikoniaEduard_Munteanu: they are the company that owns the distro14:27
ikoniathat is ths relationship14:27
Eduard_Munteanuikonia: are releases signed by them, or is the free Ubuntu an entirely community-driven effort?14:28
ikoniawhat do you mean "signed by them"14:28
ikoniathey run the company that owns it and distributes it14:29
Eduard_Munteanuikonia: hashes are GPG signed, I wonder who owns that key.14:29
tertucanonical14:29
tertuprobably14:29
ikoniaEduard_Munteanu: that will be signed from the tin that canonical own/run14:29
paul_ok14:30
Eduard_MunteanuAh, I see.14:30
paul_i got the grub-install error14:30
paul_what should i do now?14:30
Eduard_MunteanuAny chance I could find a fingerprint on the wiki, a secured page like the MD5SUMS one?14:30
l01paul_: what is the exact error message string?14:31
paul_how do i get the full string?14:31
l01Eduard_Munteanu: apt-key list14:31
l01Eduard_Munteanu: man apt-key14:31
Eduard_Munteanul01: I don't have Ubuntu installed14:31
* Eduard_Munteanu looks up the Canonical website14:32
l01paul_: you tried the chroot way in a terminal, right?14:32
paul_not yet14:33
paul_can you help me out a little more14:33
l01paul_: ok, do you see an error message box?14:33
paul_i just got one where it said14:33
paul_file a report with ubuntu-bug ubiquity14:34
paul_then i got the screen14:34
l01paul_: please either use the terminal way so that you have a meaningful error message that we can use to detect the prolbem, or try another way at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Fixing_a_Broken_System14:36
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l01the chroot is described in detail here http://askubuntu.com/a/8843214:36
l01alternatively there's boot-repair which is graphical, but personally I've never used it so I can't help14:36
paul_i typed the ubuntu-bug command and got a screen with data14:37
paul_should i look for something specific?14:38
Eduard_MunteanuNothing on Canonical's website, and it doesn't seem to support https either.14:39
EchoDevHi, I want to run an application without sudo but it requires a shared library14:39
ikoniaEduard_Munteanu: you keep going on about this, what do you want us to do about it ?14:39
Eduard_MunteanuI personally don't get the point of signing stuff if you're hiding keys in a package.14:39
EchoDevAny way to fix this? I already copied the file to the same oflder but no luck14:39
l01EchoDev: program name and library name?14:40
l01EchoDev: why do you want to run it without sudo? what's the problem you're trying to solve?14:40
Eduard_Munteanuikonia: I just said I couldn't find it on canonical.com, that's all14:40
ikoniaEduard_Munteanu: and moaned again that it's not https14:40
Eduard_MunteanuAnd I was going to ask if I should rather mail Canonical or Ubuntu's web contact rather than waiting for that bug on the tracker to be answered.14:40
ikoniaEduard_Munteanu: they work through the bug system,14:41
fanshaweThe game's now working. Thank you #ubuntu.14:41
ikoniaEduard_Munteanu: you could push the ticket at the web content if you feel it's appropriate14:41
EchoDevl01 libpcsclite.so.1 and a non public app14:41
ikonia(web contact, sorry)14:42
Eduard_MunteanuYes, I do moan about https because it's unimaginably cheap. :)14:42
Eduard_MunteanuOk.14:42
zenkoHello14:45
thezankeo714:45
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paul_trying chroot procedure  - the "main partition" is the root  partition (mounted in  / )?14:46
Eduard_Munteanupaul_: can you rephrase that question? I'm not sure what you're doing.14:47
the_rootsi have a question.  i have a dual boot laptop.  win/ubuntu can i install a thied/14:47
the_rootsthird14:47
Eduard_Munteanuthe_roots: sure14:47
the_rootsjust do the usb boot and it will create another partition/14:48
paul_in the guide there is "determine the partition of your main partition" - does that mean the root partition mounted in / ?14:48
orangepnutI'm fairly new to linux and am having a graphics issue.  Before install the 'additional drivers' my resolution was fine but afterwards my highest res is now no where near where it should be.  I've used google and tried multiple fixes but nothing seems to work.  The system details shows 'unknown graphics' but the nvidia x server settings shows my card.  Any ideas?14:48
the_rootsor should i create the part before hand14:48
Eduard_Munteanuthe_roots: if you have spare, unpartitioned space. Mind it will probably try to install the bootloader over the existing one.14:48
l01paul_: yes14:49
paul_ok14:49
the_rootsi will create  a blind partition and give it a try14:49
Walexorangepnut: the nVidia settings utility should allow you to change the pixel sises.14:50
Walexorangepnut: also try 'xauth' or one of its many graphical frontends.14:51
orangepnutWalex: the highest resolution in the nvidia utility is the same, no where near where it should be14:51
Walexorangepnut: or it could be that your card is not supported by the nVidia driver version you ha e installed14:51
Walexorangepnut: check carefully the resolutions and drivers listed in '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'14:52
Eduard_Munteanuorangepnut: did you generate an xorg.conf? Look at the Monitor section and check hsync/vsync frequency ranges.14:52
TimvdeIs there a way to either a) change the current terminal profile or b) close a terminal window (so I can open a new window with a new profile) from within a script?14:54
Naphatulcan anyone reccomend something other than dejadup for backups? it lacks options a bit14:54
zykotick9Walex: xauth?  did you mean xrandr?14:55
Walexzykotick9: ah yes...14:55
orangepnutWalex: I see this which displays my correct resloution: Virtual screen size determined to be 1920 x 108014:55
Walexorangepnut: that's virtual, what about the driver and physical resolutions?14:56
Eduard_MunteanuTimvde: what do you mean by "profile"?14:57
orangepnutWalex: Setting mode "HDMI-0: nvidia-auto-select @1024x768 +0+0"14:57
TimvdeEduard_Munteanu: gnome-terminal has different profiles (for colours, fonts...)14:57
Eduard_MunteanuAh.14:58
Walexorangepnut: yes, but you should also have a large list of modes that have been probed.14:58
TimvdeEduard_Munteanu: Well, what I *actually* want, is my terminal to have a different colour based on hostname, but the closest I could get so far is scripting an ssh command that'll open a new terminal with the selected profile14:59
TimvdeIt's just a tad annoying that it also leaves open the old terminal window15:00
zykotick9Timvde: i have the hostname configured in different colours in my .bashrc on each box (handy for lots of mosh/ssh connections)15:00
Eduard_MunteanuTimvde: you could spawn a background job that reads a named pipe and you can tell it to log out.15:00
Timvdezykotick9: I know I can do that, but I'd prefer to have the terminal background to a different colour to, since I yesterday executed "init 1" as root on a production server :)15:01
Timvdes/to,/too,/15:01
Eduard_MunteanuI personally use xmonad and spawn an entire terminal window, and the ssh ones have are watermarked with a background image.15:01
TimvdeEduard_Munteanu: That'd be great :) What terminal emulator is that?15:02
orangepnutWalex: is there anything specific you want me to find?  Not to sure what I'm doing.15:02
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falematteHi all, I want to know if is possible to not share windows between different workspaces. Better explained: I want 4 workspaces but i don't want windows to be half on one workspace and hal on the other15:02
zykotick9Timvde: ;) i sorta hear ya - i never use "init 1" myself, but i've renamed "shutdown" on my server to avoid the most dangerous thing to computing, human error.15:02
Walexorangepnut: why don't you post your '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' to the Ubuntu pastebin?15:02
Eduard_MunteanuTimvde: urxvt / rxvt-unicode, but you need to avoid invoking ssh manually15:03
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falematteHi all, I want to know if is possible to not share windows between different workspaces. Better explained: I want 4 workspaces but i don't want windows to be half on one workspace and hal on the other. Each window should stay on a workspace. Anyone may help?15:03
Eduard_MunteanuTimvde: I have a keybinding configured to show a ssh prompt asking me for the target host, then that spawns the terminal15:03
Timvdezykotick9: Well, I wanted to locally fsck my /home... It was the first thing I could come up with15:03
orangepnutWalex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6110790/15:04
TimvdeEduard_Munteanu: Ah, I might give that a try too :) Thanks for the idea15:04
paul_I did chrooting, but still nothing15:04
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paul_in step 6 i got "cat /boot/grub/video.lst  no file or dir"15:05
falematteHi all, I want to know if is possible to not share windows between different workspaces. Better explained: I want 4 workspaces but i don't want windows to be half on one workspace and hal on the other. Each window should stay on a workspace. Anyone may help?15:05
Fuchsdon't move it there? Aside from that: could probably be scripted with devilspie.15:06
zykotick9Timvde: if you are use to gnome-terminal, urxvt will be a BIG change (but it is an amazing terminal for sure!).  i use ~/.Xdeaults-$YOURREALHOSTNAMEHERE to configure it BTW, it's non-trivial.15:06
paul_but i did not execute step 7. should i repeat the procedure and do step 7?15:06
l01paul_: yes, run step 715:08
paul_ok15:09
Walexorangepnut: it is a bit peculiar because it looks like the driver and everything is good, but there is no probing for modes supported by the monitor.15:09
UserErrorDoes anyone know of the minimal Xorg package list for a specific driver only?15:09
UserErrorit seems loading only the specific driver ends up pulling in full Xorg eventually15:10
UserErroror is there a slim Xorg ppa15:10
orangepnutWalex: you have any ideas?15:10
Walexorangepnut: instead it does fall back to 'nvidia-auto-select', and there are several web pages about that being an issue15:10
zykotick9UserError: i don't think you can "trim" xorg very easily.  are you really that short on space?  best of luck.15:10
UserErrorNot short on space but it is for a specific platform15:11
l01UserError: apt-get install --no-install-recommends should exclude the Recommended packages. AFAIK there's no way to remove "dependencies"15:11
UserErrorwhere space matters15:11
Walexorangepnut: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.04/README/chapter-19.html15:11
UserErrorthere are very few "recommends"15:11
UserErrorfor xorg15:11
UserErrorthat should be recommends15:11
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Walexorangepnut: have you connected the monitor directly to the card or via some KVM or other switch?15:12
orangepnutWalex: directly to the card with and HDMI cable15:13
l01Investigate dependencies via apt-cache depends, and find alternative dependencies, they're marked with the pipe symbol at the beginning of the line15:13
Walexorangepnut: that's very strange because there was no EDID probing, and usually that does not happen if there is some intermediate thing that blocks it.15:13
Walexorangepnut: your best bet is to use 'nvidia-xconfig' as described, to create an Xorg configuration file with the modes that EDID apparently cannot find.15:14
Walexorangepnut: consider for example: http://askubuntu.com/questions/188060/force-video-mode-without-edid-information15:14
paul_at step 7 i got "embedding is not possible "15:15
paul_grub can only be installed in this setub by using blocklists. however blocklists are unreliable and their use is discouraged15:15
Walexorangepnut: this advice to use newer if less official drivers might help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/188060/force-video-mode-without-edid-information/188064#18806415:15
paul_/usr/sbin/grub-setup: error : will not proceed with blocklists15:16
columbWhat's the easiest way to setup VPN on remote (ssh) ubuntu server for usage on android/ubuntu? PPTP? OpenVPN?15:16
Walexorangepnut: but you seem to have a very recent nVidia driver anyhow (304.88 from March 2013)15:17
paul_also "/usr/sbin/grub-setup warn: this GPT partition label has no bios boot partition - embedding won t be possible"15:17
l01paul_: do not grub-install /dev/sdXn, do grub-install /dev/sdX where X is a letter15:17
[FreeBSD]paul_: nmake a 1mb ef02 partition15:17
l01oh, wait - it's GPT? then I can't help15:17
l01I thought it was MBR, sorry15:17
paul_what should i do?15:18
[FreeBSD]paul_: make a 1MB partition on the disk of type EF02 so grub can use it15:18
orangepnutWalex: yeah, and I dont see why in the nvidia control it shows the resoltion being 1920x1080 but my only options are 1024x768 and lower15:18
[FreeBSD]you need it to boot from gpt15:18
Walexorangepnut: the virtual screen size is just a software thing.15:18
paul_can i do it in gparted?15:19
[FreeBSD]yes15:19
ellipsis753Hello. My Ubuntu server 12.04 is set to automatically update against security patches. However today my website broke with "Connection for controluser as defined in your configuration failed" error, presumably because of an update. This isn't good. Did I do something wrong or are automatic updates very hit-and-miss?15:19
paul_ok hold please15:19
orangepnutWalex: well under the native resolution in the nvidia control it shows the correct one15:20
[FreeBSD]paul_: in gparted the type is calle bios_grub15:20
[FreeBSD]or similar15:20
Wiz_KeeDHello everyone!15:20
Walexorangepnut: that's peculiar because the log shows there was no EDID probing. Anyhow you can select it and ask it to generate a Xorg.conf for you.15:20
orangepnutWalex: and how exactly do I do that? and will it fix this issue?15:21
Walexorangepnut: have you tried 'nvidia-xconfig' with the suggested parameter?15:22
paul_cant find it15:23
orangepnutWalex: not sure how to do that15:23
paul_i mean it is not in the list unless it is shortened15:24
[FreeBSD]paul_: let me pm you15:24
paul_sure15:24
Walexorangepnut: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/alt-nvidia-current-xconfig.1.html might help15:25
Walexorangepnut: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=211850115:26
karab44anybody know about serious security issue in skype?15:28
Wiz_KeeDCould someone please help me fix my broadcom wireless driver so it can start showing the wireless networks when I boot? At the moment it's working very well except that fact that there are no networks show on boot and I have to connect manually15:30
karab44I was just talking with friend and some fake user poped up with one letter different and forced us into a group-chat to sniff conversation. I have screenshots15:30
sabgentonhow to i find the size of the file system15:30
sabgenton(not the partition)15:30
bekkssabgenton: "df -h"15:31
sabgentonlike in blocks15:31
[FreeBSD]df15:31
Eduard_Munteanusabgenton: df -h should show it15:31
Eduard_Munteanusabgenton: what blocks?15:31
bekksEduard_Munteanu: df -h does not show blocks.15:31
bekksEduard_Munteanu: File system blocks.15:31
Eduard_MunteanuUm, that's FS-specific.15:31
[FreeBSD]Eduard_Munteanu: the -h is human readable15:32
bekksEduard_Munteanu: Thats why "df" shows them.15:32
sabgentonext415:32
sabgentonI rember using a tool15:32
KarmahackerHi guys  anyone  know how to enable TUN/TAP module on OpenVz Ubuntu  vps15:32
Eduard_Munteanusabgenton: try debugfs15:32
sabgentonsometool  /dev/sda115:32
bekkssabgenton: That will evaluate the file partition size.15:33
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bekkssabgenton: df shows you the filesystem blocks.15:33
sabgentonpartiton?15:33
sabgentonor filesystem15:33
Eduard_MunteanuWhy do you need blocks though?15:33
sabgentonfdisk -l shows the partion15:33
bekkssabgenton: df shows you the block sizes of the filesystem.15:33
sabgentonjust been resizing hardrive with resize2fs15:34
sabgentonok I guess df works15:35
bekkssabgenton: technically, you cant resize harddrives. You can only resize partitions/volumes and filesystems.15:35
sabgentonyes my bad15:35
Eduard_Munteanusabgenton: resize2fs works with prefixes other than blocks too15:35
sabgentonheh15:35
Eduard_Munteanus/prefixes/units/15:36
sabgentonbytes would have been fine too15:36
Eduard_Munteanusabgenton: furthermore, if you enlarged the partition, you can just call resize2fs without specifying the new size, and it will extend out as much as it can.15:37
sabgentonyeah thats what i did15:37
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Guest76143Does anyone know of any automatic time-tracking applications?15:38
Hodappautomatic time-tracking?15:38
bekksGuest76143: "Worklog" on iPhone. ;)15:38
sabgentonEduard_Munteanu: is du dead accurate to the byte?15:38
sabgentoner I mean df15:38
bekksGuest76143: Otherwise, you need a full blown project management software.15:38
Hodappsabgenton: well, it's giving you blocks, not bytes.15:38
Eduard_Munteanusabgenton: that's also fs-specific :)15:39
sabgentonext415:39
bekkssabgenton: you can specify a desired blocksize for df.15:39
sabgentonif I covert the blocks to bytes15:39
hipsterZuesAnybody know what the easiest way to add/remove vi features?15:39
Eduard_Munteanusabgenton: if this is about the filesystem size then yeah, I think it is.15:39
Eduard_MunteanuI meant filesystems like btrfs can't give an accurate free space count.15:39
bekkssabgenton: Specify the desired blocksize, you do not need to convert it.15:40
Eduard_MunteanuhipsterZues: "features"?15:40
sabgentonEduard_Munteanu: but btrfs would still give the fs boundary end15:40
bekkssabgenton: So does every other filesystem.15:40
Guest76143bekks: And what about applications simply logging the currently focused window's titles, and their duration? I would settle for that, but had difficulty finding any15:40
Eduard_MunteanuYeah.15:40
hipsterZuesEduard_Munteanu: yes, like statusline, python, SQL, etc.15:41
sabgentonEduard_Munteanu: that's all i want from df i mean15:41
bekksGuest76143: Havent found anything like that for the past years.15:41
Eduard_MunteanuOn a related note it's a shame there are no FS that could work on variable-size block devices. Would be useful to have a compressed block device.15:41
bekkssabgenton: Then read "df --help" and specify the desired blocksize.15:41
bekksEduard_Munteanu: ZFS provides transparent compression and deduplication.15:42
[FreeBSD]love zfs15:42
[FreeBSD]i use it for everything :)15:42
Eduard_Munteanubekks: yeah, btrfs too, but in many ways generalizing that to ext4 and other filesystems would be great15:42
bekksEduard_Munteanu: I'd just use ZFS ;)15:43
Eduard_Munteanubekks: how's it working on Linux? I've been using btrfs for a few years already and it kept my data safe, but it's been slow as hell at some point.15:43
[FreeBSD]Eduard_Munteanu: works good on linux15:44
[FreeBSD]supports feature flags etc15:44
Eduard_MunteanuIt isn't a FUSE driver, is it?15:44
[FreeBSD]no15:44
[FreeBSD]it hasnt been for ages15:45
mackwerk_Help! I've been a complete retard, I've modified /etc/passw and /etc/groups (I think that's what they're called) and now I cannot login to ubuntu, what can I do?15:45
SchrodingersScat!language | mackwerk_15:45
ubottumackwerk_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.15:45
Eduard_Munteanumackwerk_: boot to single mode and fix them15:45
mackwerk_Eduard_Munteanu: how do I do that?15:46
Luyinmackwerk: or boot from a live OS, so you don't need to use a second computer to check, search and ask things ;)15:46
Eduard_Munteanuhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub  -- Google suggests that15:46
mika__salut15:46
Eduard_Munteanumika__: hi15:46
mika__i'm french15:47
mackwerk_Eduard_Munteanu: Thanks, will give it a shot :)15:47
Eduard_Munteanumika__: we have that greeting in Romanian too :)15:47
mika__i'm search tchat french15:47
Eduard_MunteanuThat was a short visit.15:48
tjjCan anyone recommend a better chat client than xchat-gnome?15:49
[FreeBSD]weechat15:49
A_J_hey all. i'm trying to connect via ubuntu pc to a wired network through a router, it's not working exactly. please can someone give me some pointers15:52
A_J_anyone ?15:55
[FreeBSD]A_J_: connect to what15:55
Luyin!patience > A_J_15:55
ubottuA_J_, please see my private message15:55
A_J_[FreeBSD] my internet via a router15:56
[FreeBSD]how15:56
[FreeBSD]ssh?15:56
[FreeBSD]oh15:56
falematteHi all, I want to know if is possible to not share windows between different workspaces. Better explained: I want 4 workspaces but i don't want windows to be half on one workspace and hal on the other15:56
falematteHi all, I want to know if is possible to not share windows between different workspaces. Better explained: I want 4 workspaces but i don't want windows to be half on one workspace and hal on the other15:56
A_J_no normally. i mean i want internet on my linux pc15:56
falematteHi all, I want to know if is possible to not share windows between different workspaces. Better explained: I want 4 workspaces but i don't want windows to be half on one workspace and hal on the other. Each window should stay on a workspace. Anyone may help?15:56
A_J_oh god15:56
[FreeBSD]A_J_: is it dhcp>?15:56
A_J_yes [FreeBSD]15:56
falemattesry for the spam XD15:57
Luyinfalematte: yes that is possible, depending a little on the DE you're using15:57
[FreeBSD]A_J_: wireless>15:57
[FreeBSD]?15:57
[FreeBSD]o you said wired15:57
[FreeBSD]sorrt15:57
[FreeBSD]y15:57
A_J_[FreeBSD] both wireless or wired. which ever works i'm happy15:57
[FreeBSD]wired dhcp should work by default15:57
A_J_i know it used to. it's acting funny now.15:58
A_J_not sure if the OS or the network. i mean the light blinks on the lan port15:58
A_J_and ocassionally on the royter15:58
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sabgentonbekks: I should have known about -B  I use it in du with --apparent-size15:59
sabgenton:)15:59
A_J_[FreeBSD] maybe you can help me set up the wireless ?16:00
[FreeBSD]i cant16:00
A_J_why not16:00
[FreeBSD]dont know much about wireless16:00
A_J_hmm okie any troubleshooting you can do on wired16:01
A_J_to check if my network is the fault, the pc or the os16:01
A_J_it works okie on windows 816:01
[FreeBSD]cat /etc/network/interfaces16:01
[FreeBSD]i think thats the one16:01
A_J_reads auto lo16:02
littlegirlA_J_: Can you type cat /etc/network/interfaces in a terminal window in the computer you want to connect to the internet and paste the results into http://paste.ubuntu.com/ so we can see it?16:02
crocketI finally nailed ubuntu 13.04 configuration. http://wiki.technocrata.com/xwiki/bin/view/System+Settings/Ubuntu+13.04+Desktop16:02
A_J_iface lo inet loopback16:02
dhyanahi crocket16:04
A_J_littlegirl your free to help me in main. tell me what do i do now.16:04
A_J_cause i'm not sure what's wrong. but it's broken in unix that i'm sure16:04
littlegirlA_J_: Can you paste the results of cat /etc/network/interfaces in http://paste.ubuntu.com/16:05
littlegirlA_J_: Or was iface lo inet loopback the entire contents of the file?16:05
A_J_yes littlebe1r16:05
A_J_littlegirl*16:05
hplcdoes ubuntu support Thai in live cd session?16:06
Maple__yes16:06
gabriel123does ubuntu support SSD's?16:06
Maple__first screen ya see, choose the language16:07
mmazingA_J_, just curious, what localization is your keyboard using :) (girl->be1r)16:07
A_J_mmazing the standard US keyboard is what i use.16:07
A_J_with a ruppee symbol for some reason.16:07
mmazinggabriel123 - i'm running ubuntu on an ssd as we speak16:08
gabriel123has it ever froze on you?16:08
OldTexasmmazing, I jes bought one to do that.16:09
littlegirlA_J_: This is an example of a working /etc/network/interfaces file (please do not try to use it on your system - it's just an example): http://paste.ubuntu.com/6111044/16:09
OldTexasSeem any faster?16:09
l01it never froze on my ssd16:09
mmazingi've lost several SSD's16:09
littlegirlA_J_: What you want to do is to copy your /etc/network/interfaces file so that you can restore it if you need to before you make any changes.16:09
mmazingi wouldn't recommend them to anyone who needs reliability16:10
gabriel123mmazing: how?16:10
mmazingthey just crapped out16:10
gabriel123oh16:10
matanyais it possible to run ubuntu on a tablet?16:10
OldTexassO MIRROR TO A MECHANICAL DRIVE?16:10
mmazingyou can install linux on a badger16:10
OldTexasoops16:10
matanyanot alongside android16:10
A_J_littlegirl i'm using an auto config setup. don't want to try using a manual ip.16:10
littlegirlA_J_: Ah, okay, then I'm out. I only know how to do it manually. (:16:11
gabriel123well windows is running fine on my ssd but when i boot linux, it starts up fine but lkie 2 minutes kater it freezes16:11
mmazingOldTexas - i guess that would work, but it would probably cause performance issues that might offset the gains from an SSD16:12
gabriel123mmazing: what filesystem did u use??16:12
mmazingext416:12
OldTexasYou guys are getting me depressed.  I just bought an SSD, haven't  even opened the box yet :(16:12
A_J_OldTexas it's a waste of money if your running unix on it16:12
A_J_imho16:12
A_J_littlegirl do you know anything about networking. i have a few questions16:13
OldTexasGuess I'll use it on my beta machine instead of my LTS machine then.  :(16:13
gabriel123so does anyone know what causes an I/O error to happen?16:13
littlegirlA_J_: I know some, so go for it. I'll see what I can do. (:16:14
mmazinggabriel123 - random io errors?16:14
sabgentonEduard_Munteanu:   bekks:  for the record the command (ext4) is: tune2fs -l /dev/sda1|grep 'Block count'16:14
sabgentonand it's more accurate16:14
gabriel123yes16:14
mmazingprobably a defective drive16:14
A_J_well littlegirl i've figured out that my network randomly drops. how do i troubleshoot this ?16:14
gabriel123but windows works fine16:14
sabgentondf -B4k /dev/sda1 was smaller16:15
falematteHi all, I want to know if is possible to not share windows between different workspaces. Better explained: I want 4 workspaces but i don't want windows to be half on one workspace and hal on the other. Each window should stay on a workspace. Anyone may help?16:15
littlegirlA_J_: The first thing I'd do is figure out what I'm doing each time it happens to see if I'm causing it somehow (either with a hardware thing like the computer going to sleep or the router having a bad cord and it getting bumped or something).16:15
mmazinggabriel123: hmmm, so probably not a hardware problem16:15
gabriel123yea its not that haha, i just got the drive 2 weeks ago16:16
A_J_littlegirl this pc was made to be a 24x7 online pc. so idk when it happens, although it's hampering my process.16:16
A_J_i'm guessing wires16:16
mmazinglittlegirl: A_J_: yes, that JUST happened to me about 30 minutes ago, been troubleshooting network issues, and turned out it was because i was using Suspend instead of shutting the computer down16:16
littlegirlmmazing: Heh, I was actually just guessing that something like that could happen, but it's often the simplest things that cause trouble rather than all the intricate advanced setups. (:16:17
mmazingswitched network cables, router, cable modem16:17
A_J_changing out the whole wired network is a pain. it's concelled for starters16:17
littlegirlA_J_: They also seem to have changed something in the network setup. It took us forever to figure out that you now have to have the dns-nameservers line in your /etc/network/interfaces if you want to connect to the internet via DHCP. As soon as we did that all was well, and we never had to do that before Kubuntu 13.04.16:18
A_J_hmm i'm on 12.XX16:19
A_J_i have a continuity tester maybe use that and check16:19
A_J_but the problem is it's a random drop.16:19
A_J_and goes away once a jiggle the cables16:19
mmazinggabriel123: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/05/the-hot-crazy-solid-state-drive-scale.html16:21
gabriel123mmazing: thanks! i will check it ouy right now16:21
aciduloushm, why do you guys use ubuntu and not debian?16:22
A_J_cause imho debain is more complicated to use acidulous16:22
A_J_and unix is complicated enough16:22
Maple__acidulous, I don't use Ubuntu :P16:22
littlegirlA_J_: If jiggling the cables fixes it every time you either need new cables or a new connector where the cable attaches. Unless (and this is the trouble with troubleshooting) your jiggling just happens to coincidentally happen at exactly the same moment that the actual culprit fixes itself for the moment, in which case your jiggling has nothing to do with it. (:16:22
acidulousA_J_: it's also botnet!16:22
littlegirlA_J_: Do you have another cable you can try?16:23
mmazingacidulous: why do you use debian instead of ubuntu?16:23
A_J_littlegirl it's a conceled network. so i guess i can't do that16:23
acidulousbecause it's not botnet16:23
mmazingacidulous: how is ubuntu a botnet?16:24
acidulousand sorry if i interrupted a support conversation here, i'm just trying to start a conversation.16:24
acidulousmmazing: do you know what a botnet is?16:24
A_J_naah acidulous you didnt16:24
Maple__acidulous, how about you? >.>16:24
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zykotick9!ot16:24
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:24
mmazing... i think i do, unless there is some other meaning that i am unaware of16:25
acidulous@ubuntu-offtopic16:25
Guest72232I know what a botnet is :P16:25
Guest72232I've actually owned/operated quite a few in my skid days16:25
acidulousi'm just going to give support here, since i used ubuntu previously for 2 years.16:25
UserErrorNice to know guest, care to say more?16:26
Guest72232Sure16:26
UserErrorWhat year was this?16:26
A_J_acidulous tell me what should a noob user get if he switches16:26
A_J_in terms of better]16:26
Guest72232Eh maybe 2006-200916:26
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acidulousA_J_16:26
acidulousWhat?16:26
acidulousOh16:27
Guest72232I have some screenshots of my previous nets if you guys wanna see :D16:27
acidulousTook a second read.16:27
A_J_switches from ubuntu to debain16:27
gabriel123mmazing: my drive is ok, like everyone is saying it is the drive, but it cant be because my windows installation is running perfectly16:27
acidulousHe'll probably run into issues as it's a lot more complicated.16:27
bazhang!ot | acidulous A_J_16:27
ubottuacidulous A_J_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:27
A_J_okie bazhang.16:27
acidulousAlright, I was trying to get on topic, but got brought into another conversation.16:27
acidulous /emd16:27
acidulous /end*16:27
Guest72232Here is a screenie of one of my nets a while back if anyone is interested:16:28
Guest72232http://i.imgur.com/dOYLf.png16:28
falematteHi all, I want to know if is possible to not share windows between different workspaces. Better explained: I want 4 workspaces but i don't want windows to be half on one workspace and hal on the other. Each window should stay on a workspace. Anyone may help?16:28
PrideAndSorrowhi16:29
A_J_scary Guest7223216:29
Guest72232That was a Windows net I was running, here is my biggest Linux net: http://i.imgur.com/UNAt0.png16:30
Guest72232:D16:30
Guest72232But that's all behind me now :/16:30
PrideAndSorrowis this a help channel?16:30
acidulousPrideAndSorrow: Yes, it's a support channel.16:30
unknown101yy16:30
acidulousIf you're looking for off-topic Ubuntu conversation, check out #ubuntu-offtopic.16:31
mmazinggabriel123: it could be a problem with the area of the drive that you have ubuntu installed on16:31
PrideAndSorrowi got this message16:31
PrideAndSorrowdrfaustus@mhmdimstfa:~$ sudo sudo: /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so must be only be writable by owner sudo: fatal error, unable to load plugins16:31
gabriel123mmazing: i dont understand, what do u mean?16:32
unknown101pride wait for the other download to get finished so you can use that command16:32
jribPrideAndSorrow: did you recently manipulate permissions?16:32
PrideAndSorrowrhat can fix that?nope16:32
jribPrideAndSorrow: what?16:32
PrideAndSorrownope16:32
PrideAndSorrowi havn't16:32
jribPrideAndSorrow: output of: ls -ld /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so16:32
unknown101is 13.04 the latest kubuntu version?16:33
cowbacon!13.1016:33
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+116:33
PrideAndSorrow-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 259656 فبر 28  2013 /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so drfaustus@mhmdimstfa:~$16:33
cowbacon!13.10 | unknown10116:33
ubottuunknown101: please see above16:33
jribPrideAndSorrow: and you're sure you haven't run any chmod commands?16:33
unknown101ubottu i am talking about kubuntu16:33
ubottuunknown101: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:33
littlegirlA_J_: This Bash script I use to check my internal and external IP might be of some use to you in troubleshooting. It will at least tell you if you have an external IP at any given time: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6111139/16:34
PrideAndSorrowyep,pretty sure16:34
cowbacon!ot | unknown10116:34
jribPrideAndSorrow: are you the only admin with sudo privileges on this system?16:34
ubottuunknown101: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:34
littlegirlA_J_: Also, please look up the commands I used either on the internet or in their man pages just so you know that they won't do anything malicious to your machine.16:34
PrideAndSorrowtea,i'm16:34
PrideAndSorrowyes,i'm the only admin16:35
jribPrideAndSorrow: what's the output of « ls -ld /usr/lib »?16:35
unknown101obunttu reply16:35
falematteHi all, I want to know if is possible to not share windows between different workspaces. Better explained: I want 4 workspaces but i don't want windows to be half on one workspace and hal on the other. Each window should stay on a workspace. Anyone may help?16:35
unknown101ubottu16:36
unknown101ubottu reply16:36
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DJones!bot | unknown10116:36
PrideAndSorrowhere, drwxrwxrwx 196 root root 36864 سبت 14 14:24 /usr/lib16:36
ubottuunknown101: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots16:36
jribunknown101: ubottu is a program/bot/robot/machine16:36
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bazhangunknown101, its a bot16:36
unknown101ik i was trying to see something16:36
unknown101btw its very inteligent16:36
bazhangunknown101, use /msg16:36
unknown101for?16:37
quick--falematte: Please don't repeat the question. Someone will answer if they know about it.16:37
jribunknown101: to investigate with ubottu16:37
bazhang!msgthebot | unknown10116:37
ubottuunknown101: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".16:37
PrideAndSorrowi also have linuxmint installed in this machine16:38
unknown101ok nice, i am at kubuntu's website and i clicked to download it..(ik i can upgrade ubuntu to kubuntu, but i want to format ubuntu) anyway my machine can handle 64 bit but kubuntu's website recommend me 32,any idea on what to download?16:39
littlegirlfalematte: Is http://askubuntu.com/questions/48951/keep-windows-from-jumping-workspaces-when-they-request-focus of any use?16:39
cowbaconunknown101: if you can use 64 bit download the 64bit iso16:39
unknown101okay thanks16:40
cowbaconunknown101: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/raring/release/kubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent16:40
PrideAndSorrowno,but i dropped to root shel and typed chown commans16:41
littlegirlfalematte: This one is old, but maybe it will work: http://superuser.com/questions/263151/assigning-applications-to-specific-workspaces16:41
sec^ndWhat is a good calendar app for ubuntu? I don't want to use google and I want to use caldav16:42
MonkeyDustsec^nd  try orage16:43
bazhangsec^nd, apt-cache search calendar and see16:43
aciduloussec^nd: rainlendar16:44
bazhang!info rainlendar | acidulous16:44
ubottuacidulous: Package rainlendar does not exist in raring16:44
svernagovichragazzi ho un problema con il plugin di flash...16:45
acidulousidk, i just googled linux calendars16:45
MonkeyDust!it16:45
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)16:45
ingevкак называется русский канал убунту:?16:45
bazhangacidulous, its not an ubuntu package, please try to stick to those16:45
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bazhangingev, /join #ubuntu-ru16:46
PrideAndSorrowon typing in terminal ,i get this message:"sudo: /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so must be only be writable by owner sudo: fatal error, unable to load plugins"what can fix this16:48
LordAioriahi all, could you help me? I have created a self-signed certificate using PEM format and RSA public/private key .. then i have created a self-signed server application certificate . now .. i have 2 questions.... i have installed a tool inside apache : that says that is necessary to run it under HTTPS ..... is it necessary install CA certificate into "tomcat 7" ?? and next question ... How can i install this SSL certificate in tomca16:48
sec^ndacidulous: rainlender sucks16:49
peppe90mgciaooooooooo16:49
peppe90mg!list16:49
ubottupeppe90mg: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:49
PrideAndSorrowhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6111245/16:51
lvlephIt appears that my system was hacked and all file permission in / were changed to 777 is there are quick and easy way to set everything to proper permissions? Also, what are the proper permissions?16:53
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DJoneslvleph: Being honest, if your system has been hacked, the only safe thing to do is to take it off the internet immediately and then do a fresh install, no matter how careful you are trying to fix it, you can never be certain that you get everything thats been changed so you could spend days fixing but still be compromised16:55
jriblvleph: if your system was hacked, you need to format and restore from known safe backups.16:55
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PrideAndSorrow  what could fix this ?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6111245/16:56
lvlephI am still trying to figure out how it was hacked.16:56
jriblvleph: how do you know it was hacked?16:57
lvlephA new user appeared that I didn't create and file systems permissions were all changed.16:57
jribPrideAndSorrow: you probably also ran some recursive chmod.  Anyway, format, reinstall, and restore your data from backups.16:57
lvlephI suppose it is not definitive but...16:57
jriblvleph: what services do you run that are exposed to the internet?16:58
lvlephjrib: a lot16:58
lvlephI guess I will just reinstall.16:59
lvlephthanks16:59
jriblvleph: image the drive and investigate whatever is left; but you should be reinstalling and restoring data from safe backups once you review your security procedures16:59
PrideAndSorrowjrib,can't i just change the file permissions?17:00
LordAioriahi all, could you help me? I have created a self-signed certificate using PEM format and RSA public/private key .. then i have created a self-signed server application certificate . now .. i have 2 questions.... i have installed a tool inside apache : that says that is necessary to run it under HTTPS ..... is it necessary install CA certificate into "tomcat 7" ?? and next question ... How can i install this SSL certificate in tomca17:00
jribPrideAndSorrow: not if you did it recursively17:00
PrideAndSorrowwhat if bachup asks for passwoed?17:01
jribPrideAndSorrow: I don't know what that means17:01
jribPrideAndSorrow: or rather, I don't know what you mean by that17:01
PrideAndSorrowwill backup ask for authentization?17:02
jribPrideAndSorrow: you don't already have backups?17:02
PrideAndSorrownot yet17:02
jribPrideAndSorrow: I urge you to proactively backup in the future.  Any data you care about should be backed up.  But no, in general you won't need sudo to back-up.  And you can always just mount this partition on a live cd and backup from there if you do.17:03
PrideAndSorrowok ,thanx jrib17:04
jribPrideAndSorrow: I don't think you ever told me the output to the last command I asked you about.  It would give a clue as to whether your chmod was recursive or not17:04
jrib!backup | PrideAndSorrow17:04
ubottuPrideAndSorrow: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning17:04
PrideAndSorrowdrwxrwxrwx 196 root root 36864 سبت 14 14:24 /usr/lib17:05
jribPrideAndSorrow: is "سبت" just the localization of a month?17:06
PrideAndSorrowit means saturday17:06
jribPrideAndSorrow: ok17:06
jribPrideAndSorrow: but yeah you've probably run some recursive chmod and the best thing for you to do is reinstall and restore from backups17:06
jribPrideAndSorrow: if you're sure you haven't run a recursive chmod then maybe compare notes with lvleph17:07
PrideAndSorrowthanx a lot dear jrib17:07
anonisd1hi17:09
falematteHi all, I want to know if is possible to not share windows between different workspaces. Better explained: I want 4 workspaces but i don't want windows to be half on one workspace and hal on the other. Each window should stay on a workspace. Anyone may help?17:10
lapt0pHow to improve video performance in Ubuntu? Youtube videos seem laggy.17:16
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luckyuseruu17:17
Ari-Yanglapt0p, are you on a desktop or laptop? and what graphics does it have? type this in terminal lspci | grep VGA17:17
lapt0plaptop17:17
Wiz_KeeDwhat would you gus recommend as a video player? the default ubuntu one?17:18
lapt0pATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300 i think, hang on17:18
luckyuserjyh17:18
Ari-YangWiz_KeeD, I recommend mplayer/mplayer2/mpv (new fork of mplayer)17:18
lapt0pAri-Yang: Here is the output: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV550/M71 [Mobility Radeon HD 2300] (rev ce)17:19
mario_hi everyone17:19
mario_i'm searching for ldtp alternative that works on lxde (ldtp works on gnome and kde only)17:20
mario_any tips?17:20
Ari-YangWiz_KeeD, I recommend this https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv-build there are installation instructions for ubuntu below at the bottom17:20
Ari-Yang!ati17:20
Ari-Yang!amd17:20
Wiz_KeeDthanks Ari-Yang17:20
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto17:20
Ari-Yangyou're welcome. good luck, Wiz_KeeD if you need help you can join #mpv-player17:20
Ari-Yanglapt0p, what ubuntu version are you on?17:21
Ari-Yang12.04?17:21
lapt0p13.0417:21
Ari-Yangokay, go to 'Additional Drivers' and try out fglrx17:21
lapt0pWhere is that located? :D17:21
Ari-Yanglapt0p, you should be able to find it in dash board17:23
Ari-Yanglapt0p, go to Software Sources and from there click on the Additional Drivers tab17:23
Ari-Yanglapt0p, if you're on Unity, in dash board type out software sources17:23
Wiz_KeeDCan anyone help with the broadcom drivers?17:23
Ari-Yang!details | Wiz_KeeD17:23
ubottuWiz_KeeD: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."17:23
tozenhi all! having troubles installing mini.iso. so machine asus k53e with huawei hilink dongle. installation getting started from flash usb drive in comand line mode. all is fine till archive mirror activation. i mean that there is two network interfaces visible during network devices recognition process. doesen't matter whitch is chosen finaly i've got mirror error message (tried to choose few tipe of mirrors offered by installator). any ideas to ho17:24
chsadoshey guys I have amd drivers downloaded from the ATI website and it was in a.zip file i extracted it and now its a .run file - what do i do with .run files?17:24
Ari-Yangchsados, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_upstream_drivers_directly_from_AMD.27s_website17:25
Ari-Yangchsados, I do not recommend installing the driver from amd's site... you should use the one ubuntu provides, which is considered safe, but good luck17:25
chsadosok ill try the ubuntu ones17:25
dgarstangUbuntu 12.04 on Amazon.... dhcp exit hooks.... anyone knowledgeable aboot that?17:26
chsadosAri-Yang- is that the 2. Installation via the Ubuntu repositories section?17:26
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falematteHi all, I want to know if is possible to not share windows between different workspaces. Better explained: I want 4 workspaces but i don't want windows to be half on one workspace and hal on the other. Each window should stay on a workspace. Anyone may help?17:26
lapt0p:Ari-Yang, actually i'm running LXDE based Ubuntu, so it's minimalistic and i can't find it17:26
Ari-Yang....chsados please read what's on the page, it says right there "3. Installing upstream drivers directly from AMD's website"17:26
Ari-Yangchsados, you could scroll all the way up, it gives instructions from installing from ubuntu's repos17:27
Ari-Yangchsados, what ubuntu version are you on?17:27
chsadosAri-Yang- you said youd recommend not installing from amd site - i am on 12.0417:27
Ari-Yanglapt0p, chsados, both of you run sudo apt-get install fglrx-amdcccle-updates in terminal17:28
chsadosok thanks17:29
Ari-Yangor sudo apt-get install fglrx-amdcccle17:29
Ari-Yangwhichever17:29
Ari-Yangafter, reboot17:29
lapt0pthanks :)17:29
Ari-Yangyou're welcome17:29
Ari-Yangbe sure to come back to report if it worked out or not...17:29
chsadosok17:29
Ari-Yanggood luck~17:29
lapt0pThanks, i will come back for sure17:30
lapt0pThe screen is more blurry than it used to be, and the resolution is weird.17:34
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chsadoslapt0p- what gfx card you have?  im hoping i dont have same issue17:35
lapt0pATI Mobility Radeon HD 230017:35
Ari-Yanglapt0p, yeah that's a typical problem with a simple solution.... test out youtube videos to see if they're laggy or not17:35
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Ari-Yanglapt0p, you don't get any glitches or screen tearing do you? (you shouldn't, it isn't really known for HD2000)17:37
lapt0pYeah, it's sluggish17:37
lapt0pLike it won't max out it's performance on 720p17:37
sliddjurIs there some command in "ip" program that can show if I got IP from DHCP or static?17:38
tozenhi all! having troubles installing mini.iso. so machine asus k53e with huawei hilink dongle. installation getting started from flash usb drive in comand line mode. all is fine till archive mirror activation. i mean that there is two network interfaces visible during network devices recognition process. doesen't matter whitch is choosen finaly i've got mirror error message (tried to choose few tipes of mirrors offered by installer). any ideas to ho17:38
Ari-Yanglapt0p, yeah I figured.... you could always go back. Truth is fglrx is a horrible driver :V It has bad 2D acceleration, you're better off with the open source radeon...17:38
lapt0pIs there an option to make a driver roll-back if this doesn't work?17:38
chsadoshmm i think i may just not chance it - its still downloading Ari-Yang is there a way to cancel it?17:39
Ari-Yanglapt0p, you'll have to look at AMD's site...17:39
lapt0pHow could i go back, if you don't mind telling me?17:39
Ari-Yangchsados, closing the terminal?17:39
linuxuz3ris there a playstation emulator for ubuntu?17:39
Ari-YangI'm not sure :V17:39
chsadosdamn it finished lol - gunna reboot wish me luck!17:39
Ari-Yangchsados, no worries17:39
Ari-Yangyou can alway uninstall it17:39
Ari-Yanggood luck17:39
chsadosbrb17:40
lapt0pOkay than, but if you're helping someone in something vital, you should be sure to help him if that option won't work. I'm thankful, don't get me wrong :).17:40
Ari-Yanglapt0p, maybe going on amd's site17:40
Ari-Yanglapt0p, which happens to be under maintenance lol17:40
Ari-Yanglapt0p, uninstall fglrx and install the radeon driver to go back17:41
Ari-Yangamd's site is under maintenance so you can't view old drivers from there...17:41
rhaguhi, I installed ubuntu 12.04 inside a kvm vm with virtio drivers for the hdd and grub cannot be installed, I searched the web and this seems to be a known issue, but I couldnt find a solution. Does someone know how to fix this?17:41
lapt0pWhat's the radeon drivers package name?17:41
lapt0pbrb, write me a PM if you dont mind17:41
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awaadIs there any version of Ubuntu Desktop for 64Bit Intel?17:47
qin awaad any17:47
ubuntutest17:47
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DJonesawaad: The AMD64 is also for INtel17:47
ubuntuwell crap, Ari-Yang when i reboot i get an error saying its running in low graphics mode and i hit ok and it just takes me to the TTYL command line - i am currently running on a live disc17:47
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Guest72794this is chsados btw17:47
DJonesawaad: AMD just got to the 64-bit processors first so thats just been the historical name for any 64 bit version of Ubuntu17:48
qinGuest72794: /nick chsados17:48
awaadDJones: Does this mean that "ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso" works fine with Intel 64 bit processors?17:49
DJonesawaad: Yes, I'm using the 13.04 same amd64 iso17:49
DJonesOn an Intel I317:49
Ari-YangGuest72794, yeah tbh I'm not surprised, fglrx is horrible driver :/ try running sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati if you can17:49
Guest72794ok ill reboot and go back into command interface and report back17:50
Guest72794or should i be able to do that on the live disk?17:50
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PrideAndSorrowwhen i'm in linuxmint and log in unity session,i find neither pannels nor menus,just the desktop icons17:53
qin!mint | PrideAndSorrow17:54
ubottuPrideAndSorrow: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org17:54
PrideAndSorrowwhat cuold fix that?17:54
bazhangPrideAndSorrow, ask MINT not here17:54
qinwonder if "mint off" would breach any channel guidelines...17:55
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ikoniaqin: it would just be a pointless mix of words that means nothing17:56
PrideAndSorrowdon't u have any sense of humour?17:57
ikoniaPrideAndSorrow: sure, if it's funny, rather than random word like "pepsi off"17:58
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c4mE7quit17:59
Wiz_KeeDpepsi off? :))18:00
bekksCoke on :)18:00
qinfeel guilty now18:00
Wiz_KeeDi'm a bit lost haha :))18:00
PrideAndSorrowit's getting better18:01
Taylr0xI'm trying to open grub by typing gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub but it doesn't appear to do anything in the terminal. Now I am running xubuntu but I would have thought the commands would be the same. Could anyone shed some light on how I can edit that file?18:01
ikoniaTaylr0x: what are you expecting it to do ?18:02
ikoniaTaylr0x: it should open a gedit window18:02
Taylr0xikona: Open the file for editing but I've just been informed gedit isn't installed on xubuntu by default.18:03
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ikoniaTaylr0x: should it not error then saying "command not found" ?18:03
lapt0pHow to change screen resolution on lubuntu 13.04 ?18:03
Ari-Yangoh you're on lubuntu18:04
Ari-Yanglapt0p, also check out #lubuntu18:04
Fuchslapt0p: xrandr will work, and there are some frontends to that. Unless you use the nvidia drivers, then I'd recommend nvidia-settings18:04
lapt0pI own an ATI video card :/18:04
Jordan_UTaylr0x: I believe "leafpad" is the default GUI text editor for XUbuntu.18:04
Fuchslapt0p: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution   has some commands, as said, there are graphical frontends to xrandr if you prefer that18:05
Ari-YangFuchs, shouldn't he run xrandr --auto if I'm not mistaken...18:05
guest0101Ari-Yang, so i tried installing sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati and it gave an error saying i needed some dependencies so i installed those and retried the command and now ubuntu hangs at the loading screen - anyway to revert to the generic drivers - or should i just reinstall the OS entirely?18:05
FuchsAri-Yang: entirely depends on what he wants to achieve18:05
KeyboardNotFoundHow to format usb ?18:05
bekksKeyboardNotFound: The same way as formatting other devices.18:06
KeyboardNotFoundbekks, how to format other device ?18:06
Taylr0xikonia, It didn't say nor do anything unfortunately. Mousepad worked a treat though. Now I know for future reference =)18:06
bekksKeyboardNotFound: By using a program like gparted.18:06
Taylr0xJordan_U, Will give leafpad a try also, thank you =)18:06
Ari-Yangguest0101, you shouldn't.... run these commands http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=TxB2VS7t18:06
guest0101ok thanks Ari-Yang bbl18:07
Ari-Yangguest0101, okay, good luck18:07
guest0101oh wait, well now ubuntu hangs - is there a way to boot into command18:07
Ari-Yangthere is... but I'm not sure myself :V18:07
guest0101or maybe run these from a live disc?18:07
Ari-Yangnaw, I think you should boot into command line18:08
belkinsaDoes anyone know how to see if your trackpad on your laptop is working on Ubuntu 13.04?18:08
guest0101is there a button i need to press to boot into command line?18:08
bekksbelkinsa: Put your finger on it, and move...18:08
Ari-YangFuchs, how does one boot ubuntu into command line to install and remove things via apt? guest0101 wants to do so18:08
bekksbelkinsa: No need to contact me outside this channel.18:09
belkinsabekks: sorry.18:09
Ari-Yangguest0101, maybe it's ctrl alt T18:09
guest0101google says to hold shift during boot, ill try that Ari-Yang18:09
FuchsAri-Yang: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode  might help, depending on why he has to do that it won't help, though. Maybe a life system and a chroot will18:09
lapt0pI won't get any support or help on the lubuntu channel. Can someone help me, how can i change the screen resolution on Lubuntu?18:10
LordAioriaplease any help ???18:10
FuchsAri-Yang: also I recommend not poking specific persons, if someone has an idea about a specific problem, he or she will answer it.18:10
Ari-Yang*nod*18:10
guest0101fuchs life system?  is that a a live cd?  im on live cd now18:10
Fuchslapt0p: hi, have you seen the link I gave you?  (xrandr)18:10
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Wiz_KeeDikonia, someone here suggested that the wireless networks do not get detected at the beggining because of the power mode enabled of the card18:10
Wiz_KeeDRemoving it didn't help it18:10
Ari-Yanglapt0p, check what Fuchs linked me18:10
Ari-Yanglapt0p, I know holding down shift will boot into GRUB18:10
lapt0pOh, thanks i did not see the link18:11
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: that seems a reasonable suggestion as when you "activate" it, it finds the networks18:11
Wiz_KeeDikonia, i'll reboot, one seccond18:12
Ari-Yangguest0101, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode18:12
guest0101thanks18:12
lapt0pFuchs: Since im not that experienced, i'd prefer a GUI-way of changing my screen resolution. Any ideas on graphical frontends to xrandr, as you named them :)?18:13
Fuchslapt0p: lxrandr, apparently18:13
Fuchsmight be already included in lubuntu, not sure as I never used that18:13
lapt0pWhat the "l" stands for?18:14
Fuchsyeah, should be18:14
Ari-YangLXDE?18:14
Fuchslxde would be my guess, or "lightweight", as in lxde.18:14
lapt0pI thought that too :D18:14
lapt0pI'm a noob so, i may appear funny with some questions :D18:14
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lapt0p1024 X 768 is the MAX Screen Resolution size i get as an option :/18:16
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Ari-Yanglapt0p, if you can do this, type this in terminal gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf18:18
Ari-Yanglapt0p, if you don't have gedit, use some other text editor program18:18
lapt0pleafpad is fine?18:18
[FreeBSD]lapt0p: yes18:19
lapt0pbut it wont open the .conf file18:19
lapt0pi'll install gedit18:19
lapt0phang on18:19
Ari-Yanglapt0p, then pastebin it ( http://pastebin.com )18:19
[FreeBSD]lapt0p: you'll need root to edit that file18:19
lapt0pi was not a root user (facepalm)18:19
Ari-Yanglapion, type gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf18:20
Ari-Yangerm18:20
Ari-Yang* lapt0p18:20
Ari-Yangmy bad18:20
[FreeBSD]if you're a noob and scared to use cli editor just use nano and learn that ctrl+x saves18:21
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lapt0pNo, the .conf file appear blank like a A4 sheet of paper :/18:22
Ari-Yanglapt0p, okay, that means there isn't one there to begin with :|18:22
[FreeBSD]lapt0p: afaik ubuntu dont supply one by default18:22
Ari-Yangerm18:22
Ari-YangI just wanted to see if you had it or not18:22
[FreeBSD]lapt0p: what video card is it?18:22
Ari-Yang[FreeBSD], yeah 12.04 and up doesn't have xorg.conf cuz it isn't really needed. lapt0p installed fglrx... which gave him bad resolution, he uninstalled it and installed the open source driver, he still has bad resolution18:23
Wiz_KeeDwhat does the "tmp file not ready or empty" at the boot image in ubuntu mean?18:23
[FreeBSD]Ari-Yang: ok18:23
Ari-YangWiz_KeeD, I ask that question myself... I'd like to know what it means too :L18:24
lapt0pThe video card is ATI Mobility Radeon HD 230018:24
farbodjoin /xbox18:24
farbodjoin /#xbox18:24
[FreeBSD]lapt0p: did you definately uninstall properly?18:24
Wiz_KeeDikonia, care to ligthen us? :))18:24
[FreeBSD]farbod: i think the command you want is /join18:25
farbodyes18:25
farbodtnks18:25
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: what ?18:25
lapt0pFreeBSD: I did, i followed the Ari-Yang instructions18:25
Ari-Yanglapt0p, run this in terminal and pastebin it dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon'18:25
Wiz_KeeDikonia, the "file in tmp are nor ready or tmp folder does not exist" that comes up every now and then when ubuntu boots :-s18:26
[FreeBSD]Wiz_KeeD: sounds like some /tmp cleaning thing but im guessing18:26
[FreeBSD]probbaly trying to clear tmpfiles but its already empty18:26
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: what gives that error ?18:27
Wiz_KeeDi don't know if it's an error per/say it shows up when botting on the bootloader, not a console error18:27
Ari-Yanglapt0p, maybe you should run these commands in the following order, just in case? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=TxB2VS7t18:27
Wiz_KeeDbelow the image, with the pretty font underneath the ubuntu logo18:27
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: what do you mean on the bootloader ? the bootloader is grub ? it has no idea about file systems18:27
Wiz_KeeDsorry the boot image18:27
guest0101yuri18:27
Wiz_KeeDwhen it's booting ubuntu, not grub18:28
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: remove the splash image from the boot process, try to see what gives that error18:28
Ari-YangWiz_KeeD, I got it myself after I rebooted after installing kernel 3.1118:28
guest0101can you resend that list of commands - i think i wrote down that last one wrong im getting an error at lib-mesa-dri Ari-Yang18:28
[FreeBSD]Ari-Yang: does it appear in dmesg?18:28
Ari-Yangguest0101, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=TxB2VS7t18:29
guest0101thanks18:29
Wiz_KeeDikonia, after it runs once it doesn't appear anymore, and usually errors show up in a black console instead of below the boot image with the pretty font and all that18:29
Ari-Yang[FreeBSD], not sure what to look for in dmesg... I'll pastebin it, you should too Wiz_KeeD18:29
Wiz_KeeDpastebin what Ari-Yang ?18:29
[FreeBSD]Ari-Yang: it does sound like something just trying to clear /tmp18:29
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: do what I suggested18:29
Ari-YangWiz_KeeD, dmesg18:29
Ari-Yang[FreeBSD], it does18:30
Ari-YangWiz_KeeD, take a look at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/20783/how-is-the-tmp-directory-cleaned-up18:30
ikoniaforget that18:30
Wiz_KeeDhttp://pastie.org/832829118:30
ikoniaremove the splash screen look at what process is actually giving the error18:30
ikoniait won't be "the kernel" so find out what init script is logging that error18:31
Wiz_KeeDI don't know how to remove the spalsh scree, and now it does not produce any error anymore18:31
ikoniathat will tell you what's going on18:31
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: then why did you tell me it's displaying that error18:31
Wiz_KeeDit does so only once in a while18:32
Wiz_KeeDafter I install some apps from software center like deluge, postgresql, pgadmin3 and stuff like that18:32
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: right, so remove the splash screen and wait for it to happen - then note down which process raises the error18:32
ikoniahow else are you going to find out18:32
Ari-YangWiz_KeeD, to remove splash screen gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub and remove the quite splash18:32
Ari-Yangthen run sudo-update grub18:32
Ari-Yanglapt0p, same bad screen resolution?18:33
lapt0psame..18:34
Ari-Yanglapt0p, there's is definitely a way of fixing that... you just have to find it. hang around here and ask every now and again and so some google searching...18:34
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qbalazsDoes anyone know if text to speech software is supported 'buntu's version of d-i?18:37
GatsbyHi, I need some help with the wifi driver...18:37
qbalazs@Gatsby, what sort of issues are you having?18:39
pepper_chicojust passing to say how I hate how unity have this gestures handling hardcoded =/, I want to disable four finger gesture! :(18:40
wilee-nileeGatsby, run lspci and find it and post it.18:41
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rickyrayjayanyone know how i can get ps3 media server working on lucid puppy?18:45
ikoniarickyrayjay: that's nothing to do with ubuntu18:45
rickyrayjayor is there a way to run a root terminal with ability to use 'sudo'?18:45
ikoniarickyrayjay: try #puppylinux18:45
rickyrayjayi tried puppy. sorry, they said try ubuntu just to see18:46
ikoniarickyrayjay: it's nothing to do with ubuntu18:46
ikoniarickyrayjay: sorry, it's not for this channel18:46
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Ari-Yang!restore18:46
Ari-Yang!backup18:46
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning18:46
Ari-Yang^ lapt0p18:46
rickyrayjayholy cow, wowzers...sorry to step on your toes18:46
Wiz_KeeDno errors seem to come up ikonia: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wey7mp03oxmm00a/20130915_214127.jpg?m18:46
ikoniarickyrayjay: and no-one in #puppylinux said to join this channel - you joined it and joined #ubuntu straight after18:46
ikoniaWiz_KeeD: then note them down if/when they come back18:47
Wiz_KeeDI would be interested in a easy and safe way to remove the other "Previous versions of linux, memory test" and all that other stuff from grub18:47
Wiz_KeeDYes ikonia, thanks18:47
rickyrayjayya, but they told me from my last login. then i tried google for a while and came back. sorry to bother you so much18:47
[FreeBSD]Wiz_KeeD: check /etc/default/grub18:47
ikoniarickyrayjay: no proble.18:47
ikoniaproblem18:47
Wiz_KeeDI just did [FreeBSD]18:47
Wiz_KeeDahh18:48
Wiz_KeeD# Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass "root=UUID=xxx" parameter to Linux18:48
Wiz_KeeDsorry18:48
Wiz_KeeD# Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass "root=UUID=xxx" parameter to Linux18:48
rickyrayjayhuh....seemed like a bit prob. just thought not everyone is so narrow minded with linux that maybe could find an answer somewhere else. have fun here, ill never be back18:48
Wiz_KeeD Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries <-- this one sry18:48
ikoniarickyrayjay: ok, bye18:48
Wiz_KeeDright?18:48
[FreeBSD]Wiz_KeeD: yes18:48
[FreeBSD]Wiz_KeeD: or just leave as is and set the timeout to 018:49
[FreeBSD]or set it to something small like 2 seconds so you can still easily get to it if you need to18:49
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Wiz_KeeDah the timeout until it automatically enters?18:50
[FreeBSD]yes18:50
Wiz_KeeDnah it's ok18:50
Wiz_KeeDbrb18:50
[FreeBSD]that way if you need to get to the grub screen you can tap an arrow key or whatever18:51
lorenxhi all. i'm not able to complie and install droidcam: i get this: http://pastebin.com/D1tyTcMz. i have installed linux-headers for me kernel version18:51
lorenx*compile18:51
lorenxwhat does that error mean?18:51
Rorylorenx: What's the output of "ls /lib/modules" can you pastebin it please?18:52
lorenxRory: sure, here it is: http://pastebin.com/Q8yYM9W218:53
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Guest50621Hello18:54
Guest23812how do I install minecraft18:56
Guest23812I have a .jar file18:56
Guest23812idk wth im meant to do with it18:57
lorenxRory; can i try something18:57
lorenx?18:57
Guest23812theres files iniside it too18:57
Wiz_KeeD[FreeBSD], previous versions and mem test still show up on grub18:57
DJonesGuest23812: All you should need to do is save the jar file, set its permissions to executable, then right click and run with java18:58
geirhaGuest23812: java -jar minecraft.jar   you likely need more options though, the minecraft site has examples18:58
[FreeBSD]Wiz_KeeD: i think you'll need to edit the grub config directly to remove those18:58
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Guest23812how to set it to executable19:00
Marcelius82hi19:00
universalwhat does a file with extension .so in ubuntu mean ?19:00
wilee-nileeWiz_KeeD, sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+19:01
wilee-nileeThat should remove both memtest entries. You can always bring them back by running the first command again with +x instead of the -x, and running update-grub again.19:01
[FreeBSD]shared object19:01
Guest23812damn this is so awkward!19:01
[FreeBSD]wilee-nilee: i was gona suggest that19:01
wilee-nileeyeah right19:01
[FreeBSD]wasnt sure if memtest was in there or not19:01
Guest23812where is terminal emulator19:01
universal[FreeBSD]: how is [FreeBSD] ? I have heard a lot about it but never used it19:02
[FreeBSD]its ok19:03
kostkonGuest23812, there are minecraft installers in the software centre19:04
Guest23812called what19:04
universal[FreeBSD]: user experience, smoothness, stability and choice if compared to mint, debian or ubuntu ?19:04
kostkonGuest23812, try searching for "minecraft"19:04
[FreeBSD]someone will whine in here if we speak about that19:04
Guest23812I get 3 options19:04
universalhmm19:04
Guest23812minetest minetestcommon minetestdbg minetestserver19:05
lorenxsorry guys, anyone for my issue? it should be pretty a silly issue....19:05
cillorenx: post   ls /lib/modules/3.8.0-30-generic19:09
Wiz_KeeDwilee-nilee, making that executable doesn't show it in grub?19:09
OerHeksGuest23812, minetestserver most likely > InfiniMiner/Minecraft-inspired open game world server19:10
lorenxcil: thanks. http://pastebin.com/Rpe1tJ4419:10
Guest23812ok thanks19:10
wilee-nileeWiz_KeeD, if you run it memory test disappears in the bootloader19:10
cillorenx, can't see build there.  Have you run   sudo apt-get install build-essential  ?19:10
wilee-nileeWiz_KeeD, I forget you might need to run update-grub19:11
[FreeBSD]wilee-nilee: grub parses them files if theyre executable19:11
lorenxcil: yeah, it says i already have it19:11
[FreeBSD]wilee-nilee: you dont19:11
[FreeBSD]i dont think19:11
lorenxcil but i can create it manually anyway19:11
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PrideAndSorrowhi19:12
Wiz_KeeDwilee-nilee, you said that it's ok, i'm just wondering how changing that file and making it executable makes it dissapear from the bootloader19:12
wilee-nileeWiz_KeeD, Not sure what you mean by executable, all you do is run the command to remove or add again and run update-grub19:12
cillorenz: hm, I'm running an earlier kernel, but with build-essential installed I have a bit more in that directory, including a build link.19:12
Wiz_KeeDI was asking what the command does actually19:13
starbuckhi, i would like to know if it would be wise to stick with 12.04 LTS till the next one, 14.04 or upgrade all the time when a new release comes out. is there a notable performance difference between the releases? the propritary graphics driver would be the same for 12.04 as for 13.10?19:13
[FreeBSD]wilee-nilee: chmod -x will get rid of the executable bit of that file and grub will ignore it19:13
[FreeBSD]same with any of them files in /etc/grub.d19:13
Wiz_KeeDso making it -x will make it ignore it19:13
wilee-nileeWiz_KeeD, Honestly I don't look that close it works, I'm not really that interested. ;)19:13
Wiz_KeeDhehe :)19:13
lapt0preboot19:14
Wiz_KeeDwhat about the "Previous linux version" thing [FreeBSD] ?19:14
wilee-nileeI'm not a IT person I'm studying other fields19:14
lapt0pomg.19:14
[FreeBSD]Wiz_KeeD: thats from old kernels19:14
Wiz_KeeDdamn...19:14
Wiz_KeeDThought they would be removed completly :(19:14
[FreeBSD]no19:14
UserErrorHow do I install a specific package and ignore all deps with apt?19:15
wilee-nileeWiz_KeeD, YOU don't want it removed completely whatever that means, you want the option of returning it in case you need it19:15
bekksUserError: Hopefully apt will refuse that. What are you trying to do actually?19:15
wilee-nileeWiz_KeeD, Are you OCD?19:16
UserErrorActually have a specific and sane X11 install19:16
UserErrorFor a platform that will never change19:16
lapt0pI'm trying to change my screen resolution, and i'm failing at that, nearly 2 hours so far :/ Any ideas?19:16
UserErrorI should be able to install just packages I want to without apt or anything else telling me otherwise. I should be allowed to. I can easily under gentoo.19:17
UserErrordpkg can, so why not apt?19:17
lapt0pI mean, my maximum possible screen resolution is not listed, 1024x768 is MAX19:17
wilee-nileeUserError, you can but must know how is all in general, it is a matter of knowing dependencies or attached meta stuff19:18
occlapt0p i had the same problem.19:18
lapt0phad / have? There is a difference :D19:18
jribUserError: you would never want to do that19:18
occprobably ubuntu dosnt have the right driver for your graphics card19:18
UserErrorYes, exactly. I want to download the meta without any other packages19:18
occyou know how i fixed it? i started using windows19:18
IdleOneUserError: the metapackage is just a list of packages19:18
UserErrorand only my SPECIFIC drivers19:18
UserErroryes i know19:18
UserErrorbut it is also a requirement for other packages19:19
lapt0pHaha, that's the easiest solution, but i want to gain knowledge in Linux :)19:19
jribUserError: what do you actually want to accomplish?19:19
UserErrorI don't need kid gloves19:19
[FreeBSD]UserError: why arent you still using gentoo19:19
wilee-nileeUserError, That makes no sense meta means attached packages, gentoo and linux are both linux, just setup differently19:19
UserErrorthe slimmest possible X11 install19:19
occthen have fun configuring drivers19:19
[FreeBSD]UserError: you do realise this is ubuntu19:19
UserErrorFreeBSD because the platform won't allow for it19:19
[FreeBSD]UserError: why19:19
UserErrorIt is not an option, believe me i would love to use emerge and portage instead19:20
wilee-nileeUserError, Figure it out then by asking questions or yourself we are not really interested in your opinion here this is support.19:20
UserErrorYes, and i asked how19:20
UserErrorand you ask why19:20
IdleOneUserError: if all you want to do is download the package you can use the -d otion19:20
UserErrori am not getting support that way19:20
OerHeksUserError, ubuntu allows it too, write your own metapackage or use dpkg as you found out yourself19:20
IdleOneoption*19:21
UserErrorOk, so can apt itself do what I ask? Yes or no.19:21
bekksUserError: For an enterprise environment? Never. :) I do know one enterprise platform using gentoo, and literally every device has a different versioning. It is even more horrible than running without support.19:21
UserErrorI already know dpkg can19:21
IdleOneUserError: doesn't look like it can.19:21
starbuckwhat is better for steam gaming performance-wise, 12.04 or 13.04? or is there no real difference in gaming performance?19:21
Marcelius82Well now,  I have to go home now... thank you all very much! :-)19:21
Marcelius82bye bye19:21
UserErrorSo Ubuntu cannot install specific packages by design? Is that what I am taking away from this?19:22
lapt0pHow can i open a ZIP Archive in Linux?19:22
[FreeBSD]starbuck: if any i would guess the newer one19:22
IdleOneUserError: it can do what you want if you use dpkg, but it is very likely to break your configuration19:22
bekksUserError: Dont mi up Ubuntu with apt.19:22
[FreeBSD]starbuck: newer normally means speed improvements19:22
kostkonstarbuck, not much. 12.04.3 comes with 13.04's graphics stack, so it's probably more or less the same19:22
gavin_hi19:22
gavin_i need help19:23
wilee-nileegavin_, state the issues for help.19:23
UserErrorstarbuck , 12.04.3 uses less RAM and CPU than 13.0419:23
UserErroras per testing19:23
starbuckkostkon: so the graphics driver will always be updated to the newest version, and will be the same through all releases?19:23
lapt0pHow can i open a ZIP Archive in Linux?19:23
[FreeBSD]unzip19:23
bekksUserError: 12.04 is LTS, 13.x isnt. If you want to use it in an enterprise environment, use the LTS.19:24
gavin_wilee-nilee, I have just installed ubuntu but don't know which version it is, the side menu bar keeps crashing19:24
kostkonstarbuck, you aren't getting the latest driver i think, but you are getting what 13.04 has19:24
MonkeyDust!zip | lapt0p19:24
ubottulapt0p: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME), Ark (KDE), or Xarchiver (XFCE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression19:24
UserErrorbekks, I was answering his/her question. I am using LTS19:24
wilee-nileegavin_, version as in release?19:24
gavin_yes19:24
lapt0pWhat about someone using LXDE?19:24
gavin_i think i am using 12.0419:24
wilee-nileegavin_, cat /etc/*release*19:24
gavin_thats the latest one i have downloaded19:24
[FreeBSD]unzip/pa19:24
lapt0pGnome, KDE and XFCE are covered19:24
bekkslapt0p: What will that information give you? :)19:25
MonkeyDustgavin_  what's the output of       cat /etc/issue19:25
GenyarI have a problem with my hard drive, Are there any hardware experts here?19:25
bekks!details | Genyar19:25
UserErrorGenyar #hardware19:25
ubottuGenyar: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."19:25
starbuckkostkon: ok, i think i will stick with 12.04 then, if there's no big performance difference... i guess 12.04 will be much more stable than new releases and i don't want to set up a new system every 6 month19:25
lapt0pOkay, i have an AMD driver downloaded. It's packed as .zip. What should i do to install that driver?19:25
everaldHi. There's a bug in OpenShot in Ubuntu 12.04, that was fixed a year ago. How to best upgrade?19:26
bekkslapt0p: Which drover for what?19:26
Wiz_KeeDThe mem test is still there19:26
Genyarok, bekks19:26
bekkslapt0p: What are you trying to do actually?19:26
lapt0pDriver for my graphics card19:26
bekkslapt0p: Which graphics card do you have?19:26
lapt0pInstall the newest ATI Video drivers19:26
kostkonstarbuck, yes, after all, 12.04 is supported for 5 years, 13.04 for only 8 months19:26
lapt0pATI Mobility Radeon HD 230019:26
bekks!ati | lapt0p19:26
GenyarI got a PC with an IDE bus, and I just discovered that my drive is actually on a SATA channel19:26
lapt0pI guess it may fix the problem with changing my resolution19:26
bekks!amd | lapt0p19:26
ubottulapt0p: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto19:27
bekkshmmm.19:27
bekksAh.19:27
wilee-nileeWiz_KeeD, Did you run sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+  then sudo update-grub19:27
lapt0pCan you tell me how could i install the driver? If you don't mind?19:27
GenyarI assumed it was an IDE drive hooked up to an IDE bus, but the SATA channel may explain the problems I'm having trying to format it19:27
bekkslapt0p: Read the link given please.19:27
lapt0pIt's too advanced for me19:28
bekkslapt0p: You havent even looked at it.19:28
lapt0pI did.19:28
GenyarCan you actually hook up a SATA drive to a computer that uses an IDE bus?19:28
Wiz_KeeDmaybe I forgot the update grub19:28
UserErrorGenyar yes19:28
Wiz_KeeD1 sec19:28
UserErroryou need a marvel based adapter19:28
UserError2-5$19:28
bekkslapt0p: in 1 minute? I doubt that.19:28
lapt0pWhy would i not look at it? -.-19:28
starbuckone more question, what exactly happens when a release isn't supported anymore, ther wiell be no mor updates at all? apt-get update will not work anymore?19:28
bekksstarbuck: Correct. No more updates anymore.19:29
GenyarWow, so how can I tell if my hard drive is a SATA drive or an IDE drive without physically examining it?19:29
PrideAndSorrowi wanna have unity  desktop,what packages do i need 2 download ?19:29
UserErrorstarbuck, you can signup to the backports19:29
UserErrorand get some updates19:29
wilee-nileePrideAndSorrow ubuntu-desktop19:29
bekksUserError: Which will not exist after a release got EOL.19:29
UserErrorWhich do exist as per PPAs19:29
GenyarMore important, do you need any special equipment like an adapter, to hook up a SATA drive to an IDE bus?19:29
kostkonUserError, backports != ppas19:29
starbuckok, thx guys and have a good day/night19:29
bekksstarbuck: When a release gets EOL, backports are not updated anymore. Nothing is updated anymore.19:30
bekksGenyar: Yes, you need an adapter.19:30
PrideAndSorrowjust one package? wilee-nilee19:30
wilee-nileePrideAndSorrow, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop yes19:30
gavin_hi19:30
gavin_wilee-nilee, i can't seem to find the terminal as its keep crashing on me19:30
wilee-nileegavin_, This a fresh install?19:31
gavin_had to restart the computer twice19:31
gavin_hello19:31
gavin_anyone there19:31
GenyarIf my hard drive is hooked up to a SATA channel, does that mean that my hard drive must be a SATA drive?19:31
kostkonGenyar, 1+1=219:32
UserErrorGenyar, most likely19:32
UserError99.9999% chance19:32
umar343_fbwikileaks hid you everybody19:32
GenyarWow, that means that I must already have an adapter19:32
gavin_wilee-nilee, yes its a fresh install19:32
Genyarthat's very good news for me19:32
Mult1hi guys wassup? :)19:32
kostkonMult1, hi19:33
Mult1hope you will resolve your problems soon :)19:33
UserErrorOr, more likely, you're running a SATA drive in IDE compatibility mode.19:33
anshincan anyone confirm whether they also have this bug with wmctrl? http://askubuntu.com/questions/339187/wmctrl-positions-windows-a-few-pixels-away-from-the-far-left19:33
wilee-nileegavin_, Did you check the md5sum of the ISO, is the computer hardware up to running ubuntu, did it run okay in the live enviroment? thre questions here.19:33
Mult1because I dont have any problems so far btw I am the beginner :)19:33
umar343_fbplease suggest a script to extract urls from a webpage ,i don't want to overload the server by extracting url from websites.19:33
gavin_wilee-nilee, yea it ran fine19:33
UserErrorumar , client side extraction can't overload a server19:34
GenyarThat explans why I kept seeing references to RAID when I was trying to install my software19:34
gavin_before, i had 12.04 but somehow family member ran the update and crashed the entire computer19:34
wilee-nileegavin_, So you say it crashes what are the symptoms you seem to see the left panel?19:34
gavin_wilee-nilee, the left panel keeps on flashing type of thing19:34
umar343_fb@Mult1 a begnner is not aware of the problems in reality19:34
GenyarAll this time I thought I was using an IDE drive19:34
Mult1I really hope I will find Ubuntu more useful because for me, OS Windows XP is the best one.. :)19:35
wilee-nileegavin_, Ah a crashed update, or distro upgrade?19:35
Mult1I know19:35
gavin_wilee-nilee, not sure how you mean there19:35
kostkonMult1, XP will expire soon so you you did the right thing to move to something else19:35
umar343_fbplease suggest a script to extract urls from a webpage,i don't want to be attacked by cyberpol and cyber hacker groups like anonymous and lulz.19:35
Kirejidist-upgrades and reboots on a server: ubuntu is now doing kernel upgrades **all the time**  currently it's linux-image-3.2.0-51 to linux-image-3.2.0-53 .  do I really need to reboot te server for this?  how can I tell with a kernel upgrade is required and when it's not?  I'd be rebooting several times a week to keep up with these19:35
Mult1I just install linux because of some experimantions with cracking some wifi sites :)19:36
Mult1I know It will expire :(19:36
umar343_fbthey might do it if i download urls from websites.19:36
nabbomanmy pen 16gb look like lost all partiton file and folder, can i repaire with comand all partition ?19:36
wilee-nileegavin_, hit alt-f1 to get to a tty, log in and run this. sudo apt-get -f install  it may finish the update or upgrade that was run19:36
gavin_wilee-nilee, you mean upgrade the ubuntu? i think he was trying to upgrade to 13.## something19:36
umar343_fbi am a newbie,considering different situations this is the final and worst fear i have.19:36
GenyarI know a SATA drive uses a Molex female connector to hook up to the motherboard, but what does an IDE connector look like?19:36
Mult1such a shame19:36
Mult1Windows XP is my favourite forever19:36
Mult1maybe19:36
Mult1nah19:36
FloodBot1Mult1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:36
gavin_wilee-nilee, since its a fresh install, anything else that can be resolved other than upgrade?19:36
UserErrorIDE connectors look like legos19:36
bekksGenyar: Made of Molex, available in different colors.19:37
gavin_wilee-nilee, like fix the graphics or something19:37
bekksGenyar: Not an ubuntu issue actually :)19:37
wilee-nileegavin_, Only you know we can only guess, I would run that last command I sent you in the tty.19:37
Kirejithis doesn't give me a high level summary of importance http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux/linux_3.2.0-53.81/changelog19:37
Mult1what does it mean dont use enter as punctuation??19:37
gavin_wilee-nilee, last time i did that, one of the guys on here told me that it was something to do with graphics but unsure19:37
GenyarWell, I'm doing this so I can install Kubuntu 12.0419:37
wilee-nileegavin_ Last time you did what?19:38
gavin_wilee-nilee, last time i installed the graphics part manually i think19:38
bekksGenyar: The hardware connectors have absolutely nothing to do with any OS.19:38
gavin_not sure19:38
crocketFresh hexchat19:38
Genyarthe drive I'm using now has no errors on it, but it won't let me install any Unix based OSs like Linux19:38
UrielVigilantIam using Unebootin to run ubuntu from an Usb pen drive without change in my office pc on work. I wish to know if there is a version USB that could save all modifications, because every time i run it, i have to install flash players , change the keybord and many things to have all i need.19:38
TheLordOfTimeo...kay, i'm trying to use the liveusb to resize/move partitions, and it's failing with an ext2_check_page: bad entry error, that segfaults everything19:38
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TheLordOfTimeany idea how to diagnose/fix this?19:38
TheLordOfTimeliveusb is 12.0419:38
GenyarI can install Windows, but I can't install Linux because I can't overwrite the root directory19:39
kostkonMult1, it's a bot telling you to just don't write one word per line continuously, it sees it as "flooding". it doesn't like it. just write your sentences in one line and then press enter if you can19:39
UserErroruriel , edit it with the custom ubuntu makers in the app store19:39
gavin_wilee-nilee, how do i get to the terminal without it flashing19:39
UserErrorRe-----GTK19:39
UserErrorsomething19:39
wilee-nileegavin_, I gave you info on getting to a tty, try that and the -f command19:39
GenyarI've tried everything to clean and format the drive, but the old Kubuntu root directory keeps coming back19:39
Mult1Oh thanks for informations kostkon It looks very helpful btw  I know It is a bot :)19:40
gavin_wilee-nilee, where's the info?19:40
GenyarI've used a dozen different partitioning programs and none of them work19:40
kostkonMult1, ;)19:40
UserErrorif you formatted then it isn't old19:40
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wilee-nileegavin_, hit alt-f1 to get to a tty, log in and run this. sudo apt-get -f install  it may finish the update or upgrade that was run19:40
UserErrorgenyar do this... format to exFat, then format to Ext419:40
GenyarTHe only thing that works is the Windows installation CD's fdisk partition manager19:40
tozenhi all! having troubles installing mini.iso. so machine asus k53e with huawei hilink dongle. installation getting started from flash usb drive in comand line mode. all is fine till archive mirror activation. i mean that there is two network interfaces visible during network devices recognition process. doesen't matter whitch is choosen finaly i've got mirror error message (tried to choose few tipes of mirrors offered by installer). any ideas to ho19:40
lapt0p!chmod19:40
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions19:40
bekksGenyar: Use gparted live, delete windows, and install Ubuntu.19:40
wilee-nileegavin_, Sorry ctrl-alt-f119:40
bekksGenyar: No need to format like exFat or other pointless suggestions.19:41
UrielVigilantUserError how can i find how to do that please ?19:41
UserErrorbekks, it was to prove to him19:41
GenyarI've done that already, bekks,, like over a dozen times19:42
Genyarthe old root directory keeps coming back19:42
bekksGenyar: Then since the first time, there is no "root directory" anymore.19:42
yellabs-r2is ubuntu 12.04.3 alway's the latest, or does that one get updates right after install ?19:42
bekksGenyar: Whats the exact, full error message you get?19:42
wilee-nileegavin_, THe main problem here is you do not know what was done, and your attaching previous problems to a unknown situation.19:42
Genyar"NO ROOT FILE SYSTEM IS DEFINED"19:43
bekksGenyar: Thats totally different from what you told us until now.19:43
gregor3005hi, does anybody use gnudip? i have the following scenario: my brother has a dynamic ip with a server, i have a static ip with a server and i want to connect to his server. whats the best way to get periodically his ip without the usage of dyndns or similar third party services?19:43
GenyarIt tells me to Please correct this problem from the partitioning menu19:43
gregor3005sry again the wrong channel19:43
bekksGenyar: For installing, you have to define a filesystem for /19:43
GenyarBut when I go to the partitioning menu, none of the partitions are recognized19:44
bekksGenyar: Because you have to define them, too.19:44
antarHi people19:44
GenyarBut when I go back to all my partition managers, all my EXt4 partitions are recognized19:44
antargood news , Gwibber becomes working19:45
nabbomancan i restore a filesystem fat32 with some folders inside? now i see only a empity LOST.DIR19:45
umar343_fbi want to chat with multiple channels simulataneously using webchat.freenode.net19:45
bekksGenyar: Which "all partition managers"? there is no such thing on the installation cd.,19:45
umar343_fbplease guide me.19:45
GenyarBut the weird thing is, I can reformat the Ext4 partitions, but it takes like 10 seconds to format each, and they're really big, the drive is 500 GB19:46
wilee-nileeumar343_fb, use a app that allows that, like xchat19:46
antarumar343_fb, use xchat19:46
bekksGenyar: Even if they were 500TB, it wouldnt take much longer to write the metadata.19:46
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GenyarThe root files keep taking up space after all that formatting and deleting, in two of the partitions, but they don't use much space19:47
Ben64Genyar: what "root files"19:47
bekksGenyar: PRovide screenshots of what you are doing in the installer please.19:47
Ben64formatting gets rid of everything19:47
Genyarthe root files from my old linux system I had before all these problems19:47
loinhi guys, is there something wrong with my hard drive? "SG_IO: bad/missing sense data" doesn't sound too good19:48
bekksloin: Sounds like a broken controller/hdd.19:48
GenyarI'm not certain about much about these remnant files, but I do know that they're somehow preventing me from creating a new root directory19:48
bekksGenyar: Thats totally untrue.19:49
Genyarduring installation of linux19:49
bekksGenyar: Files cant prevent you from reinstalling.19:49
Genyarbut if I install Windows, those remnant files don't seem to cause any problems19:49
Ben64Genyar: yeah... you need to show us what you're talking about19:49
Wiz_KeeDwilee-nilee, it worked, thanks19:49
bekksGenyar: Windows is out of interest in here. Please provide screenshots of what you are doing in the installer.19:49
umar343_fbi want the advice of advanced programmer,please suggest ircs for the same.19:49
wilee-nileeWiz_KeeD, cool19:50
bekksumar343_fb: freenode.net19:50
Wiz_KeeDNow I would like to remove previous kernels and solve my wireless problem19:50
Dr_WiLlIs!alis | umar343_fb19:50
ubottuumar343_fb: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*19:50
wilee-nileeWiz_KeeD, easiest way to remove kernels with a gui is with ubuntu tweak the janitor app.19:50
Genyarthere's not much to show, downloading the screen shots here would be a waste of time19:51
Dr_WiLlIsWiz_KeeD:  askubuntu.com had few answqers/scripts on removeing all the old kernels.19:51
bekksGenyar: Without them, I cant help you. Sorry.19:51
Genyarthe screen shot will just say "Prepare Partitions"19:51
Ben64Genyar: no, it would not be a waste of time. what you're saying is not making sense. pictures would absolutely help19:51
Genyar"No root file system defined"19:51
Genyarthat's it19:51
bekksGenyar: then define a root filesystem.19:51
GenyarAfter that it's just a black screen19:51
Dr_WiLlIsGenyar:  you MUST assign '/' to one of your partitions19:51
wilee-nileeWiz_KeeD, Since that broadcom has been such a problem for you I would just get a usb dongle if it were me and call it a day19:51
GenyarI did all that stuff dozens of times19:51
GenyarActually, it won't let me define an root file system19:52
Dr_WiLlIsGenyar:  ie:   sda1 = /   sda2 = /home/19:52
UserErrorlolool19:52
GenyarIt won't even recognize my hard drive19:52
bekksGenyar: Then provide the screenshots...19:52
* wilee-nilee steals "usb dongle" from Dr_WiLlIs 19:52
UserErrorI would repair a MBR19:52
GenyarI tried various unix based installations CDs and none of them recognize my hard drive19:52
GenyarI've tried 5 versions of Kubuntu19:53
Dr_WiLlIsGenyar:  does 'sudo blkid' and 'sudo fdisk -l' show the hard drive?19:53
GenyarAnd I tried FEdora19:53
GenyarYes19:53
bekksNone of them is unix based :)19:53
GenyarBut I can't get superuser status19:53
Dr_WiLlIsGenyar:  pastebin the output of those 2 commands for the channel19:53
GenyarIt won't accept amy of my passwords19:53
bekksGenyar: On a livecd, you can.19:53
Wiz_KeeDhaha, not an options ofr me wilee-nilee19:53
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OerHeksGenyar, sounds like you have 4 primairy partitions already19:54
Ben64Genyar: then pop in a livecd and come here and pastebin stuff for us19:54
GenyarOh yeah, you're right, the live CD let me get superuser status19:54
Genyaronly one of the live CDs19:54
wilee-nileeWiz_KeeD, what,  ubuntu tweak or a usb wifi?19:54
bekksGenyar: every ubuntu live cd does.19:55
GenyarNot for me19:55
GenyarBut the latest thing I did was change all my partitions to NTFS and then tried to install Windows19:55
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GenyarThat screwed up my BootManager19:55
bekksGenyar: For everyone. Now please proceed to pastebin the requested information.19:56
GenyarBecause it only half installed Windows, then fracked up19:56
Ben64we don't care about windows19:56
GenyarHow does pastebin work?19:56
bekks!pastebin19:56
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:56
Dr_WiLlIs!pastebin19:56
Dr_WiLlIsheh19:56
Mult1Hey back here again19:58
Genyarok, I'll do it19:58
wilee-nileeThanks for the warning. ;)19:59
Mult1where is my virtual friend? D20:00
BONGO1074 virtual friends20:00
wilee-nilee170220:00
BONGOty20:01
mrrcpquestion.. why when i copy files to a thumb drive it stops on 99%20:01
mrrcpfor like 5 to 10 mins20:01
UserErrorBecause you made fun of the 1%.20:01
mrrcpis it just copying still?20:01
UserErrorMost likely.20:01
Dr_Willismrrcp:  ive noticed that it like copying/cacheing.. so it seems to copy real real fast.. then waits.20:01
bekksmrrcp: Yes.20:01
Dr_Willisfor it to actually get the copy done.20:01
Genyarhaving trouble connecting to ImageBin, probably my firewall20:02
mrrcpok20:02
Dr_WillisI 'think' ive seen this fixed in 13.10 mrrcp - at least ive not noticed the issue lately here.20:02
mrrcpah20:02
mrrcpwell im on 12.04 still20:02
bekksmrrcp: Thats normal for cached devices.20:03
mrrcpnot sure if its worth the upgrade or now20:03
bekksmrrcp: And that issue exists in all releases.20:03
UserErrormrrcp u can upgrade to 12.04.320:03
GenyarOh, the images are too big20:03
bekksmrrcp: No, its not worth the upgrade.20:03
UserErrorLOL20:03
mrrcpUserError: too funny20:03
Ben64Genyar: try imgur20:03
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mrrcpor not20:03
BeowulfBrowerGot a question!20:04
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mrrcpanyways ok i was just wondering if it was my system or everyone20:04
GenyarI need to use Photoshop to make them smaller20:04
BeowulfBrowerCan I install ubuntu from a thumb drive sans a connection to the net?20:04
UserErroryes20:04
BONGOphotoshop? omfg...20:04
usr13Genyar: $ mogrify -resize 900x image.jpg20:04
Dr_WillisBeowulfBrower:  you can install without a network connection20:04
BeowulfBrowerWill I have the GUI and gparted installed by default?20:04
UserErrorBONGO, please direct me to an OSS image manipulation program that is better.20:04
nerssi1010Does anyone know of a good general computer science help IRC room? Just for asking simple, general questions.20:05
Dr_Willishmm. ive uploaded 1080xwhatever to Imagebin.20:05
UserErrorbeo, no but you can download gparted deb20:05
UserErrorto flash drive20:05
Dr_Willisnerssi1010:  try #linux20:05
Muhammad_Why I get 404 Not Found [IP: Something] when I wanna update ubuntu using 'sudo apt-get update'?20:05
BONGOUserError: gimp should do the job to shrink pics...20:05
usr13Genyar: (If you have imagemagic installed... which you should...)20:05
BeowulfBrowerOK, will I have the gui installed though?20:06
UserErroryes20:06
Dr_WillisMuhammad_:  whast ubuntu release. and whats the exact error message20:06
GenyarPhotoshop is easy to use20:06
Dr_WillisBeowulfBrower:  the desktop cd installs a gui.20:06
Dr_WillisBeowulfBrower:  Unity by default on ubuntu20:06
BeowulfBrowerOk, if I'm doing it from a thumb drive, same thing?20:06
usr13BONGO: Why not imagemagic?20:06
Dr_WillisBeowulfBrower:  yes.20:06
usr13BONGO: (quicker/easier)20:07
BeowulfBrowerCan I just use McDonald's wifi to do this?20:07
anshinis this the wrong place to ask my question, or am I just getting lost in the noise? I have a bug with wmctrl on ubuntu, and my friend says he has the same issue20:07
BONGOusr13: great piece of software... i like it20:07
Dr_WillisBeowulfBrower:  no idea. try it and see20:07
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usr13BONGO: Yep20:07
Dr_WillisBeowulfBrower:  some public hotspots block a lot of things20:07
UserErrorBB, yes you can20:07
anshinbug is that active window isn't moved to be flush with the launcher/side of the screen with `wmctrl -r :ACTIVE: -e 0,0,0,-1,-1`20:08
bekksGenyar: You dont need Photoshop to pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" and "sudo blkid".20:08
UserErroranshin, 4th result on google20:08
Dr_WillisGenyar:  'sudo apt-get install pastebinit'   then 'sudo blkid | pastebinit'  'sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit'20:08
sulo_where is my virtual friend? I have been disonnnected ?/20:09
usr13Genyar: ... and send URLs20:09
Muhammad_Dr_Willis: jaunty 9.04. Also that one is the exact error.20:09
GenyarMy screen shots were taken by my digital camera, that's why I need to cut them down to size20:09
gavin_hi20:09
gavin_i need help20:09
UserErrorgenyar use imgur20:09
UrielVigilantWhen i arrived to this part " Customize Your CD20:09
UrielVigilant<UrielVigilant>In the main project screen, you will be given a number of options to modify. We’ll start off by adding in some packages that are not included in Ubuntu by default." following this on line manual http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/22145/how-to-create-your-own-customized-ubuntu-live-cd/ , then if i want the mozzzila comes already with the flash player, what i have to write on the...20:09
FloodBot1UrielVigilant: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:09
UrielVigilant...packages...20:09
UrielVigilant<UrielVigilant>...searches , knowing that flash player is this one http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/completion/?installer=Flash_Player_11.2_for_Ubuntu_%28apt%2920:09
usr13Genyar: This machine is not online?20:09
gavin_how do i stop the left menu/task bar from crashing?20:09
Dr_Willis!jaunty | Muhammad_20:09
bekksGenyar: You dont need Photoshop to pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" and "sudo blkid".20:09
ubottuMuhammad_: Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) was the tenth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: October 23, 2010. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.20:09
Dr_WillisMuhammad_:  jaunty is END of LIVE. the servers have all been moved. Time to Upgrade. (or better yet a new clean installof a supported release)20:10
GenyarNo, they're not from the terminal20:10
UserErrorUreil i gave u the answer20:10
Dr_Willis!eol | Muhammad_20:10
usr13Genyar: If the machine you are working on is online, just use pastebinit as suggested.20:10
UserErrorread the one about the one that starts with R and ends with GTK20:10
Genyarthe screen shots are from my partion managers and from my installation actions20:10
UserErrorin the link i gave u20:10
ubottuMuhammad_: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:10
gavin_hello20:10
usr13Genyar: Can you bring up a terminal window?20:10
gavin_anyone there20:11
GenyarOf course it's not online, I'm using another PC20:11
GenyarYes20:11
Dr_Willisgavin_:  1000+ people here20:11
gavin_i need some help20:11
bekksI am resting that case.20:11
bekksgavin_: You have to tell us about your problem first.20:11
Genyarwhich partition manager do you wont me to use?20:11
usr13Genyar: Ok, never mind, just send image(s).20:11
UserErrorGenyar they already stated Gparted20:11
anshinUserError: good point. not sure why I didn't consider it. thanks20:12
gavin_bekks, my left menu/task bar keeps crashing whenever i hover my mouse over20:12
GenyarBut I can't remember which one gave me superuser status20:12
UserErrornp20:12
Genyarit was either GParted or KDE Partion mnaager20:12
Dr_WillisGenyar:  from a live cd. you could run any of them as root with the right command line command.20:12
Genyaryes, but only one gave me superuser status20:13
usr13Genyar: sudo20:13
Dr_WillisGenyar:  either of them CAN be ran that way.20:13
bekksgksu, not sudo.20:13
Muhammad_That link is banned for me. Is any other link available?20:13
gavin_is there a way to fix the issue that I am facing?20:13
Genyarther'e s a 50 50 chance it was GParted20:13
Dr_WillisMuhammad_:  banned? what link is banned?20:13
gavin_hello?20:14
Muhammad_Dr_Willis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades. Yes banned?20:14
Dr_Willis!patience | gavin_20:14
ubottugavin_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/20:14
Muhammad_.20:14
GenyarI lost the installation CD20:14
Dr_WillisMuhammad_:  you mean your company/isp/school has it blocked?20:14
gavin_Dr_Willis, sorry20:14
GenyarI mean, I lost the Gparted live CD20:14
ElesaHi! I got a problem, there's no sound coming from my speakers, but headphones work.. I'm using Ubuntu 12.0420:15
GenyarI'l have to use KDE isntead20:15
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Muhammad_Dr_Willis: Yes. I'm from Iran.20:15
Dr_Willisgavin_:   step 1 - would be to be sure your system is all updated, and upgaded. 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade'20:15
Genyari found GParted20:15
usr13Elesa: alsamixer  #From a terminal window.20:15
Dr_WillisMuhammad_:  no idea on that then. I cant imagine why they would block a  Help site.  Theres alwyas TOR to get around stuff i guess.20:15
Genyarswoops20:15
Elesaok20:15
Dr_WillisGenyar:  you can 'sudo apt-get install gparted' from a kde live cd also20:16
usr13Elesa: Make sure PSM and Master are turned up.20:16
GenyarI'm booting up GParted20:16
Muhammad_Dr_Willis: All tour route are blocked too.20:17
Elesawell, PCM says 100<>100, and Master says 47<>47, Beep says 0, and both Beep and Master have a green 00 below them20:17
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Genyarhttp://imagebin.org/27102820:18
usr13Elesa: Check to see that your speakers are plugged into correct port.20:18
gavin_Dr_Willis, I have updated and upgraded everything but I still have the same issue20:18
Elesaumm, well, I forgot to mention that I'm using a laptop, it's the integrated speakers that aren't working20:19
Dr_WillisMuhammad_:  heres a pastebin of the site  http://pastebin.com/YyTwzSEi20:19
usr13Genyar: What exactly are you trying to do?20:19
bekksusr13: trying to install ubuntu.20:19
Muhammad_Dr_Willis: Sorry. This is banned too. Could you paste it on hastenin.com(I found this with a lot of effort).20:19
Muhammad_*hastebin.com20:20
Elesaisn't it pastebin.com?20:20
usr13bekks: The image he sent contains little if any information.  I'm going to suppose he is trying to shrink an existing partition.  Right Genyar ?20:20
estudianteestudiante20:20
Dr_WillisMuhammad_:  that site dosent exist  as far as i can see20:20
GenyarI'm tryng to format my drive20:20
bekksusr13: No. He is trying to paste images on what he is doing.20:21
Genyarso I can install Kubuntu20:21
usr13bekks: Ok.20:21
usr13Genyar: So why not just mkfs?20:21
Genyarmkfs?20:21
UserError!man mkfs20:21
Dr_WillisGenyar:  all you really need to do is delete the partions and have some unallocated space. and let the partioner partion and format as it wants.. but earlier you said - it couldent SEE the hard drive.. thats a totaly differnt issue20:21
usr13Genyar: Are you wanting to format it or re-partition it?20:21
Dr_WillisGenyar:  partioning and formating are 2 differnt things. :)20:22
GenyarI can only format frm live cD, not during installation20:22
ElesaI don't get it, why aren't the integrated speakers working? they worked perfectly before I rebooted with the REISUB command :(20:22
usr13Genyar: To delete partitions, use fdisk. sudo fdisk /dev/sda   #Hit o and hit enter and then w and enter.20:22
Genyarnone of my unix based instalations will recognize my hard drive or let me define a root file system20:22
gavin_is anyone be able to help me20:23
Dr_WillisGenyar:  then you make 2 partions from a live cd. one of ext4, one of 'swap' and then you use the 'somting else'  route in the isntaller. assign / to the ext4 and swap to the swap.20:23
Muhammad_Dr_Willis: Weird. I can access it http://hastebin.com20:23
Dr_Willisgavin_:  its very hard for us to help with things that just 'crash'   Youmight want to check askubuntu.com, and as a test. try making a new user. see if it also crashes on them20:23
GenyarWell, I want a HOme partition, too20:24
usr13Genyar:  o   create a new empty DOS partition table   w   write table to disk and exit20:24
Dr_WillisGenyar:  so make one then. assign it to /home/ in the installer.20:24
bekksGenyar: Pastebin the rest of the information request please.20:24
usr13Genyar: As has been suggested, just delete any partitions you have and use a blank, un-partitoned drive.20:24
gavin_Dr_Willis, the thing is, the crashing is a bit like its flashing when i hover the mouse20:24
OerHeksGenyar, check your bios, if your HDD controller is set to AHCI ( not ide mode) could explain it too20:24
bekksGenyar: We are waiting for more than 20 minutes for a simple pastebin.20:24
usr13bekks: But, the installer'20:24
bekksEven more than 30 minutes.20:25
traplincould anyone please help me? i followed this tut: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=197&t=92044 (i know its for mint, but was the only one i could find) to get my wireless adapter to work. it worked, but, i am stuck in a password loop. i input the correct password, but it continuosly ask me for the password.20:25
gavin_The menu bar then turns strippy sort of thing20:25
usr13bekks: But, the installer's  partitioning tool will do that for you.20:25
GenyarI just created a new partition table to get rid of the NTFS partitions, now I got 500 GB of unallocated DOS space20:25
kkrustyhello Rhythmbox just used up all my root space while syncing my music files. Any idea where the cache is stored so that I can delete it?20:25
usr13bekks: Sorry, that was for Genyar20:25
Elesausr13, it's laptop speakers20:25
usr13Genyar: Good.20:26
Dr_Willisgavin_:  could be some odd video driver quirk/bug/. You havent mentioned what video card/chiset/driver you are using that i saw.  But i dont really do much video driver trouble shooting.20:26
gavin_ok20:26
bekksGenyar: Will you finally pastebin the requested information, or may I get back to other things?20:26
gavin_Dr_Willis, are you able to walk me through the steps?20:26
Genyarhttp://imagebin.org/27103020:26
usr13Elesa: Check for F-key combo or some other control method on the laptop.20:26
Dr_Willisgavin_:  steps for what? lspci will show your video card and other info.20:27
Muhammad_Dr_Willis: What about this http://cpaste.org? Could you paste it on this?20:27
Elesato increase/decrease volume? Yup.. I tried it, and the usual bubbly sound isn't there20:27
Elesait works when I use headphones though20:27
usr13Genyar: Looks like you are good to go.20:27
Dry_Lipswhen creating a user in Ubuntu 12.04 (server) with full access to the server, is it enough to add the user to the sudo group, or do I have to add him to other groups as well? For instance adm?20:27
gavin_Dr_Willis, I mean to resolve the crashing issue20:27
Dr_WillisMuhammad_:  http://cpaste.org/2215/20:27
usr13Elesa: What are you using to generate the sound?20:28
Dr_Willisgavin_:  i dont know any definitive 'steps' that will guarentee a fix. no one does.20:28
traplinCan anyone help me?20:28
usr13no, not if you don't ask a question20:28
traplini did, must've been missed, here:20:28
traplincould anyone please help me? i followed this tut: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=197&t=92044 (i know its for mint, but was the only one i could find) to get my wireless adapter to work. it worked, but, i am stuck in a password loop. i input the correct password, but it continuosly ask me for the password.20:28
wilee-nileetraplin, YOu running mint?20:28
gavin_ok, but how do i install the video driver?20:28
traplinwilee-nilee: nope, Ubuntu, but, it worked fine. there were no tutorials for Ubuntu on that matter20:29
gavin_its the motherboard graphics card that i am using20:29
Dr_Willisgavin_:  you havent mentoioned your video card/chipset.  so it all depends on that.20:29
usr13traplin: Forgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword20:29
Elesausr13, umm, a YouTube video and a mp3 file20:29
wilee-nileetraplin, remove the password that is there now for wireless.20:29
Dr_Willisgavin_:  its all about the 'chipset' of the video card. there is the addaditional-driver tool that  works for most nvidia/ati cards20:29
GenyarMy images are too big20:29
usr13Elesa: play file.mp320:29
traplinwilee-nilee: did that, it still continued to ask for a password, even though one didn't exist20:30
Dr_WillisGenyar:  and how big are your images?20:30
gavin_Dr_Willis, all i know is that, the video card is NVIDIA20:30
usr13Elesa: sudo apt-get install sox20:30
wilee-nileetraplin, This the user password or the wireless/20:30
traplinthe wireless20:30
traplinthe wireless password it keeps on looping20:30
wilee-nileetraplin, tick the always use butrton, if this is not the original desktop on install make sure it os ticked there.20:31
usr13traplin:  Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org20:31
kkrustyfound the problem. .xsession-errors is 9GB. Thanks for nothing guys20:31
bandit22can someone tell me how to disable global menu in 12.04LTS20:31
wilee-nileebandit22, global menu?20:31
Elesausr13, it says play FAIL formats: no handler for file extension `mp3'20:31
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Genyarhttp://imagebin.org/27103220:31
Genyarwoops, now they're probably too small20:32
wilee-nileebandit22, THe left panel?20:32
gavin_Dr_Willis, I'm not sure if it is ATI video card20:32
bekksGenyar: You do not need to define partitions using gparted. Start with a blank disk.20:32
bandit22what ever its called where the close min max buttons are on top of screen20:32
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Genyarok, bekks20:32
wilee-nileebandit22, The top panel is part of the desktop, not really a disabled option.20:33
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chmacHow can I tell from within bash if I'm running on ubuntu or osx?20:34
wilee-nileebandit22, THis is unity I assume from your description.20:34
reisiochmac: cat /etc/*release*20:34
reisiochmac: uname -a20:34
bandit22yes unity20:34
reisiochmac: probably 'help | head'20:34
reisiochmac: echo $HOSTNAME20:35
reisiochmac: million other ways20:35
chmacreisio: $HOSTNAME is closer, but I was thinking something like that20:35
chmacuname -a would work, but not sure if that works on mac...20:35
chmacOk, it does20:35
Genyarhttp://imagebin.org/27103320:35
reisio$HOSTNAME is good enough for familiar boxes20:35
napscchmac: lsb_release -a20:35
reisioas you probably gave them their hostnames20:35
bandit22i don't like the menu hiding and buutons being on the left on maximized windows20:35
chmacreisio: Sorry, I was thinking something like $BASH_VERSION which tells me zsh / bash :-)20:35
reisiochmac: help | head20:36
reisioI said :p20:36
chmacreisio: help not found on osx...20:36
gavin_does anyone know how to install video card driver on ubuntu?20:36
reisiochmac: really... do they not use bash?20:36
reisiobash --help | head20:36
chmacreisio: Thing is, I want a single .profile that I can use on both zsh / osx and on bash / ubuntu :-)20:36
reisiogavin_: yup, for what card?20:36
Ben64Genyar: why are you in the bios?20:36
traplinwilee-nilee:  okay, so now without a password it works. but obviously i don't want to have no password on my wireless20:36
bekksGenyar: BIOS is irrelevant. Paste the pictures from the installer finally. And the requested commands.20:36
reisiochmac: oh that20:36
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chmacI have a few different hosts, so $HOSTNAME would be a bit messy...20:37
GenyarI shot those last night20:37
reisiochmac: they use entirely separate ~/. files, so...20:37
wilee-nileebandit22, You can move it in dconf-editor20:37
reisiochmac: you should only need to replicate them all20:37
reisiochmac: but you could theoretically source them from one another20:37
reisiothat is to say, you could, but it'd be odd :p20:37
chmacreisio: Which is what I'm trying to do! :-)20:38
bekksGenyar: However. It takes almost an hour to get the pastebin of two commands. I am out of your case, finally.20:38
bandit22I don20:38
reisiochmac: it's just '. file' or 'source file' in bash20:38
wilee-nileetraplin, Right there is a box to check there somewhere that is a auto login I forget its name. If you are on a second desktop then the one on the install you have to set it there first.20:38
reisiochmac: ask #zsh about zsh's way20:38
bandit22I don20:38
chmacreisio: I guess it's mostly the aliases and PATH that I'm thinking of, so I could put that into a separate .aliases / .path files…20:38
bandit22I don't know how to use that20:38
reisiochmac: I'm still not sure what you're after :p20:38
reisiochmac: are you trying to write once, use twice?20:39
chmacI've got a few things like if [ -n $BASH_VERSION ]; then do … fi20:39
GenyarI give up20:39
chmacreisio: Yeah, so I can sync the files between all my hosts, and just have one copy20:39
chrisircHow do I best install a newer version of openshot on ubuntu 12.04? Is there a testing/unstable Ubuntu like with Debian, from which I could install or rebuild packages? Or, backports?20:39
reisiochmac: well you can do that with separate files...20:39
chmacreisio: But so they behave slightly differently on different systems20:39
Elesausr13, well, it looks like the file is playing but there is no sound from the speakers20:39
Ben64Genyar: it's really not that difficult20:39
traplinwilee-nilee: yeah its on automatically connect when this wireless network is avaliable?20:39
Genyaryes, it is very hard20:40
Ben64no, it isn't20:40
chmacreisio: Yeah, I could source .aliases and .path from .zprofile and .profile, probably easiest20:40
reisiochmac: mmm, okay20:40
wilee-nileebandit22, http://handytutorial.com/move-window-buttons-to-right-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/20:40
chmacreisio: Thanks a lot for the brainstorming, I appreciate it20:40
reisiochmac: based on which system?20:40
GenyarI've been trying to get the drive to work for about 2 months now20:40
reisiochmac: I think I'd use $HOSTNAME20:40
umar343_fbcheck the speakers by conencting them to a battery20:40
reisiochmac: that's basically the "computer name"20:40
reisioit's the most straightforward choice, IMO20:40
Elesaumar343_fb, it's laptop speakers :(20:40
umar343_fbif it does not work you must install an anti-virus or contact ur local cyber police.20:40
Ben64Genyar: well you're not doing it properly. if you would just provide the information we're asking for, it'd be done already20:41
chmacreisio: Yeah, but I have maybe a dozen ubuntu hosts, so $HOSTNAME is not so unique in that sense20:41
Elesa...20:41
umar343_fbor study hardware of ur computer.20:41
bandit22thanks i'll try that20:41
wilee-nileetraplin, This on the desktop that was there when you installed?20:41
geirhachmac: I don't know why uname -a was suggested, but hopefully you read the manual and found uname -s20:41
Adiehi20:41
Adieis ubuntu good yet?20:41
Genyarit's impossible to do live screen shots during installation, I had to use my camera20:41
umar343_fbopen ur laptop20:41
traplinwilee-nilee:  i don't understand? this is a fresh installation. did it today.20:41
chmacgeirha: Neat, that would do the trick nicely, thanks20:41
umar343_fband get the speakers out.20:41
wilee-nileeAdie, This is support.20:41
Rory!best | adie20:41
ubottuadie: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.20:41
Ben64Genyar: thats fine, cameras work20:41
Muhammad_Dr_Willis: Upgrading. Thanks20:42
Adiewilee-nilee, has the number of people searching for support recently gone up unproportionally with the userbase?20:42
Adie:D20:42
Muhammad_Dr_Willis: Which of them is better? Contributing to Ubuntu or contributing to FreeBSD?20:42
geirhacase $(uname -s) in Darwin) macstuff...;; Linux) case $(lsb_release -si) in Ubuntu) ...etc20:42
wilee-nileetraplin, Cool, many of us have multiple desktops is why I mention that, so the wireless works but you get a popup right?20:42
reisiochmac: it should be :p20:42
reisiochmac: but if they're not that unique, then why would you really need to do things differently with regard to your shell?20:43
gavin_hi, does anyone know how to install video card drivers?20:43
traplinwilee-nilee: yeah, it works now without a password. with a password on the wireless network, it endlessly prompts me20:43
bekksGenyar: You did not even start the installation to take pictures. So I am resting that case.20:43
Genyarthe screen shots are too dark20:43
wilee-nileeAdie, Not a support topic try #ubuntu-offtopic20:43
chmacreisio: It's the difference between my osx laptop and my ubuntu servers20:43
chmacreisio: Would be simple if I'd only stick to bash on osx ;-)20:43
Adiewilee-nilee, can you help me make ubuntu more like it was in april 2010?20:43
wilee-nileetraplin, YOu sure you have the password set to wep or wpa correctly20:43
reisiochmac: why not just use the same sh on all of them?20:44
traplinwilee-nilee: i do indeed, wpa 2 personal20:44
wilee-nileeAdie, YOu want gnome 2 right?20:44
Elesacan anyone help me with my laptop speakers? they aren't working, but headphones do20:44
reisiochmac: anyways, you could just check if the hostname is that of your laptop, or ANYTHING ELSE20:44
umar343_fbonce u have tested th espeakers browse online for reveting the speakers from getting damaged.20:44
reisioElesa: what laptop?20:44
Adiewilee-nilee, no20:44
jhutchinsElesa: Plugged into the same jack20:44
AdieI want things to work20:44
chmacreisio: Yeah, thought about that, but like the idea of Darwin vs Linux, makes it more portable20:44
umar343_fb*preventing=reveting20:44
wilee-nileeAdie, Then be clearer that ubuntu in 201020:45
chmacreisio: I have a friend whining at me to share dotfiles on github… :-)20:45
wilee-nileethan*20:45
wilee-nileetraplin, Not sure really.20:45
jhutchinsElesa: Plugged into the same jack?20:45
chmacOoh, if is different on zsh / bash, so I guess I'll stick to separate files included from .zprofile / .profile20:45
Elesareisio, it's a Toshiba Satellite C645-SP4011L20:45
reisiochmac: mmm, a bash config or zsh config that plays with its other shell counterpart doesn't sound more portable to me :p20:45
Elesajhutchins, umm, I'm talking about the integrated speakers on my laptop20:46
reisioElesa: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto particularly the bit about specifying a model20:46
chmacreisio: I'm thinking to have a .aliases file which gets called from both, and possibly a .path file likewise20:46
Genyarhttp://imagebin.org/27103420:46
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chmacreisio: Seems fairly portable, my aliases all go into .aliases, which is standard, and likewise my .path20:46
Elesareisio, OK!20:46
reisiochmac: I guess that'd be alright :)20:46
chmacHere's a question though, any issue to have a non existent directory in $PATH ?20:46
chmacSeems not according to a quick test...20:47
bekkschmac: No issue.20:47
chmacbekks: Thanks20:47
chmacOoh, I'm glad I tried here before #ubuntu-server, it's normally so busy on here can't get a word in edgeways… :-)20:48
UrielVigilantThere is a guy on you tube, talking about Melchior aplication that is able to save all modification on a usb bootable ubuntu system, but i cant find. somebody heard before about it ?20:48
chmacSunday nights is obviously the best time to be bash hacking! :-)20:48
jhutchinschmac: I think they're both *Posix compliant, and they're from similar roots, but there are differences.20:48
gavin__hi20:48
reisiohi gav20:49
UrielVigilanti cant find Melchior nowhere.20:49
gavin__computer crashed, does anyone know how to install the video card?20:49
gavin__I mean video card driver?20:49
gavin__hello20:49
reisiogavin_: yup, for what card?20:50
Genyarhttp://imagebin.org/27103520:50
gavin__reisio, do you mean the brand name of the card? its nvidia20:50
GenyarSee Bekks, I told you the screen shots would be a waste of time!!20:51
bekksGenyar: I am resting your case. Maybe someone else still has the patience to help you.20:51
GenyarI kept telling you over and over, the problem is always the root file system20:52
alex_ /ignore -channels #mwsf * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS20:52
GenyarNO ROOT FILE SYSTEM IS DEFINED20:52
Ben64Genyar: then define one20:52
k1lGenyar: no need for caps20:52
alex_hey guys, do you know how to disable "xxx has join/left" messages in irssi ?20:52
GenyarI can't do that without it recognizing my hard drive20:52
occthen make it recognize it20:53
Ben64alex_: probably like that, but without the space before the /20:53
alex_will try20:53
GenyarI've tried everything and nothing works20:53
GenyarI've been doing this for two months20:53
Ben64you've not tried everything20:53
bekksGenyar: It has been more than one hour now that we are waiting for two simple commands to be pastebin'ed. Do you really expect I still want to help you further?20:53
GenyarI already posted all my screen shots20:54
Genyarthe rest of them are from BIOS20:54
bekksWhich did not contain the output of the two commands requested.20:54
bekksSo: I dont care anymore.20:54
gavin__reisio, how do i install the graphics video driver? my video driver is NVIDIA20:55
belkinsaIs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ loading slowly for anyone?20:55
lmnsqshrbelkinsa, works fine for me20:55
k1lbelkinsa: its fine here20:55
bekksbelkinsa: Pretty fine here.20:55
belkinsaHuh, thanks.20:55
UrielVigilantI think this Melchior app its the biggest lyes on Ubunt World community, maybe..20:56
GenyarInstead of spending another hour getting my screen shots from my camera, I'll just tell you, they will all show the same words:  No root file system defined20:56
belkinsaBut can you get to other pages within?20:56
reisiogavin__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto20:56
Ben64Genyar: no they don'20:56
Ben64Sep 15 2013 12:53:23 <Dr_WiLlIs>Genyar:  does 'sudo blkid' and 'sudo fdisk -l' show the hard drive?20:56
bekksGenyar: Nothing more to say from my side.20:56
Ben64neither of those say "no root file system defined"20:56
Genyareverything else in the installatin works fine20:56
k1l!find melchior20:56
VRazvanhi all20:56
belkinsaNever mind, now it loads.20:56
ubottuFile melchior found in picon-users20:57
reisiohi20:57
Genyarevertyhing works until I get to "Prepare Partitions"20:57
k1l!package melchior20:57
VRazvananyone have patience to help a noob?20:57
Ben64Genyar: pastebin those two things20:57
Genyarthe screen shots would show that, there's nothing uselful in the screen shots20:57
Ben64Genyar: like you were asked 64 minutes ago20:57
k1lUrielVigilant: that is not a official ubuntu package, is it?20:57
gavin__reisio, i tried following the tutorial but i am still confused20:58
UrielVigilanti found on yuo tube, but i cant found anywhre to download and install now20:58
GenyarI have more screen shots, but I can't find them20:58
gavin__reisio, are you able to walk me through instead?20:58
reisiogavin__: about what?20:58
Ben64Genyar: pastebin the two things requested or this will never work20:58
alex_@Ben64: it works! thanks!20:59
Ben64alex_:  :D20:59
k1lUrielVigilant: then ask the YT video creator. its not in the official ubuntu repos.20:59
reisioUrielVigilant: melchior?20:59
gavin__reisio, about installing it, they all say ATI but my video driver is nvidia20:59
GenyarYou already saw all my screen shots from athe sintallation of kubuntu 12.0421:00
Ben64Genyar: screenshots are NOT pastebins21:00
reisioGenyar: you can read this message right here, right?21:00
Genyarthe screen shots go into the pastebins21:00
reisioGenyar: can you read this msg?21:00
Genyarten i post them here21:00
Ben64no! pastebin is text! screenshots are pictures! text and pictures are not the same!21:00
gavin__reisio, i have installed fresh ubuntu, the thing is, i hover the mouse over to the menu bar on the left hand side and it keeps crashing and also goes all stripy21:01
VRazvancome guys, pls help a noob a bit21:01
reisioVRazvan: ?21:01
Genyarhttp://imagebin.org/27103521:01
reisiogavin__: could try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia21:01
Genyarthat's an image21:01
UrielVigilantThe idea is good one, we can use Ubuntu running from  ausb pen drive, and make changes to the system installing or removing and saving, then next time we have all thing like we save , instead of create a costumized usb , one time and another ..21:01
reisioGenyar: so you can't actually read anyone's messages21:01
VRazvanfor some reason i can't install flashplayer and because of that my webcam can't be activated same the mic21:01
Ben64Genyar: thats still not a pastebin, and still not the commands we want21:01
k1lgavin__: did "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" not work?21:01
reisioUrielVigilant: plenty of existing apps for that21:02
Genyaryou have to click on the link to see the screen shot21:02
reisioVRazvan: what happens when you try to install it?21:02
UrielVigilanttell me on Reisio21:02
Genyarits an imageBin21:02
k1lGenyar: forget about the pictures.21:02
reisioUrielVigilant: unetbootin21:02
GenyarLeft click on the link, and you will see the screen shot21:02
k1lGenyar: just give the text output they requested into a pastebin and show the link here.21:02
Ben64you know what, i give up too21:02
VRazvanohh it acted like is instaled, i mean the install went ok21:02
reisioBen64: no patience :p21:03
VRazvanbut when i go on any site where i need the flashplayer is not working21:03
VRazvanas example games from fb21:03
Genyarit's not text, al the screen shots are JPEG images21:03
Ben64reisio: feel free to try21:03
VRazvanor sites for testing the webcam21:03
reisioVRazvan: what's this say? http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html21:03
lmnsqshrGenyar, that's the problem! We need TEXT, not images21:03
k1lGenyar: they reqeusted some commands that produce text output.21:03
VRazvanthat tab from flasyplayer appier but i can't push on allow21:03
reisioBen64: I'm not convinced he can even read messages21:03
reisioBen64: there has been no indication so far that he can21:04
GenyarI can text here, not in the imageBin21:04
UrielVigilantyou did not understood. Iam using Unebootin, ubuntu 10.x ,always i  run it i have to install flashplayer, aps, keybord definitions and more.I already know by you guy that i can creat a personalizaed version, but that not the same thing if we could make this alive, saving modificanton on line  doesn it ?21:04
reisioI don't think he's even talking to anyone21:04
k1lGenyar: that is why you should use a pastebin and not a imagebin21:04
GenyarHow do you post text on the image bin links you sent me?21:04
VRazvan11.2.202.31021:04
k1l!pastebin | Genyar21:04
ubottuGenyar: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:04
reisioUrielVigilant: what app are you talking about?21:04
VRazvanLinux 3.2.0-53-generic-pae (32-bit)21:04
gavin__k1l, that still doing the same thing21:04
UrielVigilantMelchior , check on you tube please21:05
UrielVigilanti can put the link here21:05
reisiocheck on youtube...21:05
reisioyou'll have to, since 'melchior' is a terribly non-unique name21:05
k1lUrielVigilant: just make a "persistent usb system". no need for that special app you want21:05
k1lgavin__: what "same thing"?21:05
UrielVigilantiam nwebiie so that special one app will be perect one for me.21:06
reisioUrielVigilant: you said21:06
gavin__k1l, when i hover my mouse over, it still crashes and goes stripy21:06
VRazvanso it seems is installed but is not working21:06
Ben64UrielVigilant: 10.04 is no longer supported on desktops21:06
k1lUrielVigilant: forget that. persistent install is the official way21:06
k1lUrielVigilant: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent21:07
UrielVigilantSo if i simlpy download the ultimate Ubunto Iso , and burn it on a USb , it will come with the latest flash ?21:07
k1lUrielVigilant: ask the ultimate ubuntu support. that is not an official ubuntu21:08
GenyarOkay, here is the text output....21:08
Genyarhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6112304/21:08
VRazvanreisio: how can i pm u?21:08
bekksGenyar: thats not the commands we asked for.21:09
VRazvanfound it21:09
UrielVigilantUbuntu 13 comes with flash player ?21:09
Genyarthe live installation gets me no where, I already tried everything, the real solution lies in the konsole commands using unix21:09
Ben64UrielVigilant: i don't think it does by default21:09
Genyaris that what you want, the konsole text output?21:10
Ben64Genyar: just pastebin the commands that you were asked to. over an hour ago. or else we cannot help you ever.21:10
Ben64Genyar: and this is linux, not unix21:10
bekksGenyar: No. We wanted the output of two specific commands.21:10
gavin__k1l: i tried installing the nvidia current driver but the left menu bar still goes stripy21:10
gavin__and crashes21:10
GenyarWhat commands, the only commands I ever used were on the konsole?21:10
GenyarName the commands, if you please21:11
usr13Genyar: I think what they want is  "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit"  Right bekks?21:11
reisioand /sbin/blkid21:11
Ben64Sep 15 2013 12:53:23 <Dr_WiLlIs>Genyar:  does 'sudo blkid' and 'sudo fdisk -l' show the hard drive?21:11
usr13Genyar: And  "sudo blkid | pastebinit21:11
reisiowell that wasn't redundant21:12
bekksusr13: Thats the first one, the second one was sudo blkid.21:12
Ben6479 minutes ago now21:12
usr13He's new... so....21:12
VRazvancan anyone help me fix my webcam and flash player? pls21:12
reisioso you want to inundate him with words :p21:12
usr13I've been gone for a while, I'm not as frustrated :)21:12
reisioVRazvan: what's the problem?21:12
bekksusr13: We keep telling him for 80 minutes now, every few minutes.21:12
VRazvani pmed u reisio21:13
bekksusr13: I dont care about whatever the output may be anymore.21:13
reisioyes, you PM'd me and said it didn't work21:13
GenyarI don't have two of those characters on my keyboard21:13
Genyarone looks like an "L"21:13
Genyara small "L"21:13
reisio:)21:13
Ben64its called "pipe" its shift + \21:13
usr13Genyar: It is the pipe   |21:13
GenyarI don't tink i have a pipe on my keyboard21:14
usr13Genyar: Uppercase from the \21:14
reisioyou probably don't have pastebinit, either, though :)21:14
gavin__hi21:14
Genyarwhat bout that lower case "L" that's a weird character, looks more like a 721:14
reisiogavin__: hi21:14
usr13Genyar: No21:14
reisiotime for a new font, methinks21:14
gavin__reisio, im still having issues after installing the video card for my current graphics driver21:15
reisiogavin__: same issues?21:15
GenyarThat weird "L" character is not on my keyboard, I have a U.S. international key baord map21:15
VRazvanwell when i try to go on settings with rigght click21:15
gavin__i'm still facing the issue with the menu bar crashing and goes all stripy21:15
Ben64Genyar: which one are you referring to21:15
VRazvanis not working21:15
Genyaris it a lower case "L"?21:15
usr13Genyar: Hold down the Shift key and hit  \21:15
reisioGenyar: yes21:15
VRazvanand also on webcam test sites21:15
reisioit looks like 'l', doesn't it?21:15
Genyarno, that's pipe21:16
VRazvanit won't let me push allow21:16
reisiowhen things are the same, they're the same21:16
GenyarI got pipe, |21:16
usr13Genyar: No, it is not a lower case L21:16
reisioGenyar: a pipe is a pipe21:16
usr13Genyar: Yes, you do.21:16
reisioand l is an l21:16
reisioVRazvan: okay21:16
Genyarbut I don't got that lower case "L":....l21:16
reisioVRazvan: make your flash applet fullscreen21:16
usr13Genyar: sudo blkid | pastebinit21:16
reisioVRazvan: then exit fullscreen, then try again21:16
gavin__reisio, the thing is, the menu bar crashes and goes stripy21:16
Genyarsory, i got it>......l21:16
usr13Genyar: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit  #And send URL21:16
Genyarok, I'll do it right now....21:17
Ben64after thats done do --- sudo blkid | pastebinit21:17
usr13... and send resulting URL21:18
Genyarpastebinit....command not found21:18
usr13Genyar: sudo apt-get install pastebinit21:18
VRazvani have no option to go fullscreen21:18
* reisio predicts future21:18
reisioVRazvan: try it at youtube, then21:19
* wilee-nilee loans reisio his Carnac cap21:19
GenyarE: unable to locate package pastebinit21:19
reisio:p21:19
gavin__reisio, is there a way to fix it?21:19
* reisio looks at sprunge.us21:20
VRazvanis the same21:20
usr13Genyar: What version are you using?21:20
VRazvanstill not allow me to push/click on tabs21:20
usr13Genyar: Is this PC online?  Or not?21:20
Genyaruser@debian21:20
Genyarno21:20
Genyaroffline21:20
GenyarI'm using a Windows Pc online now21:20
usr13Genyar: Ok, well get it online and try again.21:20
GenyarIf I do that, then we can't talk21:20
Ben64you can't have more than one computer online?21:21
GenyarNo21:21
Genyaronly one modom cord21:21
Ben64then do "sudo fdisk -l" and "sudo blkid" and type it all into pastebin.com21:21
usr13Genyar: Ok, well, maybe you can just go to  | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add |21:21
usr13Genyar: Ok, well, maybe you can just go to  | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add |21:21
usr13And type it in21:22
Genyarthat could take a while21:22
usr13Sorry wong one.21:22
lmnsqshrGenyar, or take a picture and upload it21:22
rsvpis there a command to show the version of Ubuntu installed ???21:22
usr13Gnurdux: use http://paste.ubuntu.com21:22
reisiorsvp: cat /etc/*release*21:22
Ben64Genyar: or yeah, take a picture of the resulting text21:22
GenyarI'll have to use my camera to do that21:22
VRazvanreisio: on the flasplayer window i can't press on allow or other tabs like camera tab and mic tab21:23
fanda5hello21:23
usr13Gnurdux: Ok, then just go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation21:23
reisioVRazvan: you said21:23
reisiofanda5: hi21:23
Gnurduxusr13: tab completion is betraying you :P21:24
Gnurduxi think you're trying to talk to Genyar21:24
usr13Gnurdux: Yea, I messed up.21:24
reisiousr13: one more and you're out!21:24
usr13Gnurdux: Go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation and follow instructions.21:24
Ben64usr13: wrong again, and following instructions is not his forte21:25
usr13Genyar: Go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation and follow instructions.21:25
usr13Sorry.....21:25
Ben64there may be a problem with the hard drive, but its been 92 minutes and we still don't have a pastebin21:25
VRazvanreisio: on the flasplayer window i can't press on allow or other tabs like camera tab and mic tab21:26
wyldeVRazvan: that's been a known problem for some time. Go to http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager03.html to manage those settings :)21:26
reisioVRazvan: you said21:27
GenyarI typed sudo fdisk -l, then screenshot it with cam, so what do I type next?21:27
rsvpreisio: thanks for your quick response -- it works great. As a reward, here a free VM Ubuntu box via terminal on any browser: https://koding.com/?r=rsvp  -- Enjoy!21:27
reisioGenyar: /sbin/blkid21:27
Ben64Genyar: do "sudo blkid" , screenshot that, and upload both somewhere21:27
reisiorsvp: :)21:27
* reisio is rewarded21:27
m_tadeuhow can I change the default guest account settings?21:28
wilee-nileem_tadeu, Like?21:30
GenyarOk, I sypted sudo fdisk -l, then "sudo blkid", so I got a screen shot of them both, right?21:30
usr13Genyar: Good21:30
Genyarnow I'll downlaod them here into mthis PC21:30
m_tadeuwilee-nilee: like available apps, desktop effects, etc21:31
wilee-nileem_tadeu, try looking here. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=change+the+default+guest+account+settings21:32
VRazvanwylde: http://imageshack.com/scaled/800x600/856/aetb.png21:33
VRazvansee that flashplayer window, it appier but is not clickable21:33
VRazvanit won't let me click on allow to activate the webcam and microfon21:33
wyldeVRazvan: folow the link I posted and allow that website access from there. Do NOT right click on the flash "area". Then reload your test page.21:34
Genyarokay, I'll post the screen shots here......21:34
vltHello. my alsa device I want to playback with mplayer is called "default:CARD=K6" by `aplay -L`. I tried "-ao alsa:device=default:CARD=K6" but I get "Could not parse arguments at the position indicated below:" (points to the capital "C"). I changed ":" to "=" but still the device isn't found. Any idea?21:35
vltOr how can I make it my alsa default device?21:35
Genyaruh, send me a link to pastebin here, please21:35
nimbioticsDo you guys know about a channel to ask noob questions about html with bootstrap?21:35
gordonjcpnimbiotics: #ubuntu-offtopic ?21:36
GenyarI need a link to paste bin21:36
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wylde!paste | Genyar21:36
ubottuGenyar: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:36
reisionimbiotics: /msg alis list *bootstrap*21:36
usr13http://imagebin.org/?page=add21:36
Genyaryues imag bin21:36
VRazvanwylde: i set on allways allow for http://www.testwebcam.com/21:36
usr13paste.ubuntu.com21:36
VRazvanand still the same thing as u seen in the earlyer screenshot21:36
nimbioticsreisio: thanks!21:37
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nimbiotics /msg alis list *bootstrap*21:37
Genyaroh, only one image......21:37
usr13Genyar: You could have typed the information into paste.ubuntu.com about 40 or 50 times by now.21:37
Genyarhttp://imagebin.org/27103821:38
nimbiotics /msg alist list *bootstrap*21:38
GenyarI almost copied the wrong image, had to do it over,, sorry21:38
wyldeVRazvan: only suggestion I have then is to close your browser, empty the cache and try your page again. Beyond that I have no other ideas.21:38
usr13Genyar: But if you would just get the PC you are working on connected to the internet, it could be done in an instant.21:38
rsvpnimbiotics: there is a new social coding site with bootstrap fans: https://koding.com/?r=rsvp  will also get you a free virtual machine for testing code in a Ubuntu sandbox.21:38
reisioGenyar: and what's the problem again?21:38
VRazvanwell i did that before to come here and ask for help21:38
bekksreisio: He doesnt see a disk to install on - he is using a fasttrack fake raid controller.21:39
bekksreisio: He didnt tell us that detail until now.21:39
usr13Genyar: So just disconnect from the machine you are on now, go to the target PC, get it connected and continue from there.  Okay?  (Much easier....)21:39
Genyaryeah, i could, but I would probably have to use KDE Partition Manager and I doubt Quassel will work off the live CD21:39
wyldeVRazvan: since changing your settings on the link I posted?21:39
nimbioticsrsvp: nice! thanks a lot!21:39
reisiobekks: :)21:39
GenyarI doubt Quassel would work off the live KDE CD21:39
wyldeGenyar: it does21:40
VRazvanyea21:40
usr13Genyar: What is   Quassel?21:40
wyldeusr13: kde irc client21:40
Genyarthat's the IRC portal I used to get here when I was using Kubuntu21:40
usr13(I just use irssi .. Ok...)21:40
rsvpnimbiotics:  hope you enjoy it. My username is rsvp over there, so hmu.21:40
GenyarI'm on a Windows PC now21:40
usr13Genyar: Ok. Well, if it works, use it.21:40
Nedmaneurgh windows21:40
RoryGenyar: Why do you doubt Quassel would work off the LiveCD? ANyway you can always use http://webchat.freenode.net21:41
usr13Genyar: If you ditch the Windows PC, you might be able to get something done.21:41
GenyarI don't have KDE booted up on my linux PC now21:41
nimbioticsrsvp: sure will, looks N.E.A.T.!!21:41
nimbioticsrsvp, reisio: Thanks again and God bless you21:41
Marleneemissing moudels in installing proxychains - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6112431/21:41
GenyarI used the konsole from GParted21:41
usr13Genyar: Ok.21:41
Rory!details | Marlenee21:41
ubottuMarlenee: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:41
GenyarI'mm on the konsole still with my linux PC21:41
gavin__does anyone know how to fix the crashing and going stripy on the menu bar?21:41
Genyarhttp://imagebin.org/27103821:42
GenyarWas this screen shot helpful?21:42
NedmanCan someone please tell me where i find webcam settings on ubuntu as my skype isnt recognising there is a webcam on my Acer laptop....21:42
Rory!webcam | Nedman21:43
ubottuNedman: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras21:43
wyldeNedman: check the skype settings. 'ls -l /dev/video*' will list detected video devices eg. /dev/video021:43
usr13Genyar: Ok, so you have a 500G HD with no partitions.  The installer's partitioning tool will work fine to creat partitions.  How much RAM do you have?21:43
Nedmanthank you, i will try both of those suggestions...21:44
Genyar1536 MB of RAM21:44
usr13Genyar: Create a swap partition 4G Create a partition for /  35G  Create a partition for /home/  and just use the rest of the drive for it.21:45
GenyarNo, the installer's partitioning toold won't recognize my hard drive21:45
usr13Genyar: And do the install.21:45
bekksusr13: HE is using a promise fake raid controller which isnt recognized by the installer.21:45
bekksusr13: That can be seen in the blkid output.21:45
usr13bekks: Oh21:45
bekksusr13: He didnt tell us until now.21:45
GenyarI can't do any partitioining with the installer21:45
wyldeGenyar: you can partition from the live cd then reuse the created partitions in the installer....21:45
GenyarI already tried that wylde, didn't work21:46
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GenyarI triede it about 25 times actually21:46
usr13bekks: Oh yea, I see now..... ok21:46
MarleneeRory : the install log in the paste say there missing moudels21:46
Marleneeibproxychains.pp -c libproxychains.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/libproxychains.o21:46
Marleneelibproxychains.c:291:5: error: conflicting types for 'getnameinfo'21:46
Genyarhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6112304/21:46
GenyarWhat about formatting to ExFat, then Ext4, before trying another install?21:47
RoryMarlenee: It looks like it's a bug in the upstream when compiling for x64 - take a look at this forum post which shows you how to edit the offending source code to allow it to compile correctly https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=964665#p96466521:48
GenyarOh yeah, when I had supuuser status, I was able to delete the whole hard disk, but it still didn't help the isntallation process21:48
GenyarI also tried the follwing command several times, and got some interesting results:...........21:49
k1lGenyar: better you ask the debian support if you want to install debian21:49
Genyar.........rm -rf *21:49
reisioclassic21:50
bekks-.-21:50
occGayren21:50
co-XZisthey hey..quick question...How can I tell which version of syslinux I have installed ?21:50
reisiodoesn't trolling like that take a lot of time? :p21:50
GenyarIt tried to delete all the directories but kept saying there's already a root directory and would always refuse permissin to delatte anything21:50
co-XZisttyping syslinux only brings up a usage list21:50
RoryGenyar: Can you fill me in on your problem, all on one line?21:50
Genyarwhen I typed "rm -rf *"21:50
reisioco-XZist: syslinux -v21:51
k1lGenyar: stop spoiling the support channel. troll somewhere else21:51
reisioGenyar: nah, it didn't say that21:51
co-XZistreisio: I tried that... I still only get the usage list21:51
lmnsqshrGenyar, aren't you in the /root dir as default? so when you type in rm -rf * you deleted /root/*21:51
GenyarI can't install any unix based OSs on my hard drive, because my root file system is not defined and the installatin live CD, Kubuntu 12.04 won't recognize my hard drive for partitioning21:52
Genyaryes I did21:52
GenyarI was in the root directory when I did it21:52
wyldeco-XZist: try syslinux --version then?21:52
GenyarIt kept failing, but I think it worked once21:52
co-XZistwylde: samething :(21:52
k1lGenyar: come back if you really use kubuntu and not a debian system21:52
Genyarwhat is debian?21:53
kostkon!debian21:53
ubottuUbuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/what-is-debian.html - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!21:53
UserErrorGenyar21:53
UserErrorcat /dev/zero > /dev/sda21:53
k1lenough spoiling from that troll.21:53
UserError??21:54
bekksUserError: cat is the slowest solution. better use dd with a block size of the size of the cache of the disk.21:54
UserError^^^21:54
UserErrorthis21:54
reisioco-XZist: dpkg -l | grep -i syslinux ?21:55
jorisSo, I kinda removed my volume regulator at the top bar. Does anyone know how to get it back?21:55
kostkon!info indicator-sound | joris, this?:21:56
ubottujoris, this?:: indicator-sound (source: indicator-sound): System sound indicator.. In component main, is extra. Version 12.10.2daily13.04.12-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 109 kB, installed size 376 kB21:56
minuswellweather21:56
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jorisI executed "sudo apt-get autoremove pulseaudio" and I noticed my volume button has gone.21:57
kostkonjoris, oh dear...21:57
kostkonjoris, why did you remove pulseaudio21:57
jorisBecause it was giving me issues. Now is there a way to undo that?21:57
kostkonjoris, reinstall pulseaudio?21:58
traplinwhenver i apply display sittings (with dual monitors) i get a timeout, and this: required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(1600, 600), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1440, 1440)21:58
jorisalready did that. It didn't bring the applet back.21:58
kostkonjoris, sudo apt-get install indicator-sound21:58
joris"indicator-sound is already the newest version"22:00
wilee-nileejoris, Logout then back in22:00
_cha0zhi accidentaly enabled all programs icons to be shown in taskbar. how i can remove them?22:00
wilee-nilee_cha0z, What desktop?22:00
_cha0zwilee-nilee, ubuntu latest unity22:01
_cha0zand i removed my history so to undo my action22:01
kostkonjoris, after reinstalling pulseaudio did you log out22:01
wilee-nilee_cha0z, How did you enable them, and is this the top panel?22:01
kostkonjoris, and logged back in22:01
joris_all  done. That did the trick. Thank you. :)22:01
kostkonjoris_, np22:01
joris_Bye people.22:02
wilee-nilee_cha0z, YOu can right click the left panel icons and remove.22:02
wilee-nileesome anyway22:02
_cha0zwilee-nilee, not these! i am talking about the top right bar!22:03
wilee-nilee_cha0z, How did you add them?22:03
kostkon_cha0z, whiat kind of icons exactly22:03
_cha0zwilee-nilee, i dont remember the command ( i enabled to show all the running apps!)22:03
wilee-nilee_cha0z, This the panel or a dropdown?22:03
_cha0zkostkon i mean xchat, truecrypt!22:03
_cha0zwilee-nilee, panel22:03
kostkon_cha0z, oh you set all to the indicator whitelist?22:04
wilee-nilee_cha0z, Not sure I don't use unity22:04
kostkon_cha0z, to show all the gnome tray icons22:04
_cha0zkostkon, yes! i need to select only some22:04
_cha0zkostkon, also i want to delete skype from this panel22:04
_cha0zwhat is the default value for this parameter?22:05
kostkon_cha0z, then insteast of all, put the app names you want22:05
_cha0zkostkon i dont remember the command to change this option22:05
chocwiseHi there. I've got a problem with Compiz. I can't seem to deactivate the Grid plugin.22:06
chocwiseWhen I click the checkbox in CCSM it gets unchecked. But as soon as I start CCSM again Grid is activated again.22:06
wylde_cha0z: try the up arrow in terminal ;)22:06
_cha0zwylde i have erased my history as i said :)22:06
kostkon_cha0z, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-re-enable-notification-area.html22:06
_cha0zthank u kostkon22:07
chocwiseEvery other plugin I can deactivate just fine it seems. Just Grid acts up.22:07
wylde_cha0z: shame22:07
kostkon_cha0z, that post will clear some things out for you22:07
_cha0zthank you kostkon, i just want to know the default value for this in order to revert22:07
kostkon_cha0z, just leave java and maybe the hp systray22:07
kostkon_cha0z, also you can use skype-wrapper for skype. You don't need its icon in the tray, you will be able to select it from the messaging menu22:08
_cha0zkostkon i had it installed but it was both in messaging menu and both in the panel :(22:09
kostkon_cha0z, the default is just to put ['JavaEmbeddedFrame', 'Mumble', 'Wine', 'hp-systray'] instead of ['all'].22:09
kostkon_cha0z, had problems with skype-wrapper?22:09
_cha0zthank you kostkon :)22:10
_cha0zyep i had problems with skype-wrapper22:10
kostkon_cha0z, actually you can remove skype's icon by removing the sni-qt package.22:10
_cha0zkostkon i have already done this and the icon is not removed! weird!22:10
_cha0zalso when i installed the skype-wrapper the mail notifications of thunderbird stopped working22:11
_cha0zweird no 2 :p22:11
kostkon_cha0z, hmm yeah22:11
_cha0zkostkon i cant remove skype icon :P22:12
kostkon_cha0z, :(  try again, remove sni-qt, give it another try :P22:13
_cha0zkostkon the package is uninstalled already22:13
kostkon_cha0z, update the whitelist too, then logout and launch skype again and see what happens22:14
vltHello. How can I make "default:CARD=K6" the default playback device in .asoundrc?22:14
kostkonlog in back and launch skype etc22:14
kostkonlog back in*22:14
Benkinoobyvlt: jsut at chance. are you running pulse audio?22:15
vltBenkinooby: No! :-D22:16
livelaughlearnHi, I bought a new usb to hdmi display for my ubuntu laptop. Whats the best method for finding the drivers for it. I have tried googling the model and ubuntu drivers with no success22:16
Elguesmihi all22:16
[FreeBSD]vlt: http://bpaste.net/show/132733/ thats my basic asoundrc22:16
kostkonvlt, i've got bad news for you, you'll have to fiddle with conf files now :P22:16
livelaughlearnDo I just accept that some products wont be supported on ubuntu?22:16
kostkonlivelaughlearn, yes22:17
gordonjcplivelaughlearn: some things with deeply weird drivers aren't22:17
gordonjcplivelaughlearn: in general they won't be much good with *any* OS22:17
gordonjcplivelaughlearn: I've found that Linux tends to have better support for hardware than say Windows22:17
[FreeBSD]really?22:18
gordonjcplike, just about everything USB I've tried using in Windows has crashed it22:18
kostkonlivelaughlearn, does a usb to hdmi converter really need drivers?22:18
livelaughlearnto be specific Im using a my gica usb195a, I dont think i can find any drivers for it online, should i try just other products' driver?22:18
livelaughlearnmaybe im a big noob, but its not detecting anything since i plugged it in22:18
Benkinoobyvlt: is there any reason not to use it? afaik pulse audio is standard in ubuntu22:18
mrrcphow do i update libreoffice to the newest?22:18
livelaughlearni plug it in, add the montor and see if my display setting on ubuntu can find anything22:19
vltBenkinooby: Isn't pulse using alsa anyway?22:19
gordonjcpvlt: kind of, but at a lower level than most apps deal with22:19
kostkonvlt, yes.22:19
gordonjcpvlt: is there a specific reason you don't want to use pulse?22:20
wyldemrrcp: If the version in the official repos isn't what you want then build from source or find a ppa with the latest package.22:20
kostkonlivelaughlearn, and?22:20
vltgordonjcp: I don't know it, it's another added layer, maybe latency ...22:20
mrrcpok22:21
gordonjcpvlt: if you require low latency, use a low latency kernel and jack22:21
livelaughlearnkostkon nothing22:21
gordonjcpvlt: what are you using audio for?22:21
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livelaughlearnI have 3 displays, 1 main laptop, 2 other monitors , i want to use 2/3 excluding the laptop22:21
wyldemrrcp: http://askubuntu.com/questions/252612/how-do-i-install-libreoffice-422:21
gordonjcpvlt: you can shave a whole millisecond off your latency by just sitting 3' closer to the speakers...22:22
livelaughlearni have no clue what to do next :(22:22
vltgordonjcp: Recording. Normally I'm using JACK and ardour, but on this machine it's not installed yet. I'm looking for a way to tell mpalyer which device to use.22:22
kostkonlivelaughlearn, so, you connect your hdmi monitor through the converter to your laptop's usb?22:22
gordonjcpvlt: oh, just use kxstudio then22:22
vltgordonjcp: I already did.22:23
sacrelicioushello all, having a problem, i tried to do some harddrive partitioning without really knowing what i was doing, i think i made some serious errors22:23
banisterfiendlivelaughlearn that's too many displays -- your'e just showing off at that point22:23
sacreliciousin any case, i reinstalled ubuntu using the erase option, but my computer is not letting me boot into it22:23
vltgordonjcp: my problem now is: I want to tell mplayer on that machine to use a specific alsa device. How?22:23
benccis is possible to use 32bit php on 64bit ubuntu?22:23
sacreliciousaccording to my computer, i have no bootable drive22:23
SomelauwBefore installing an application, is there a way to determine how much disk space it would use?22:23
Eduard_Munteanubencc: why would you want that?22:23
livelaughlearnkostkon, I only want to use 2 external monitors not the main laptop. the hdmi works to hdmi, but not the usb to hdmi22:23
kostkonvlt, checked mplayers cmd options?22:23
wylde!grub | sacrelicious22:23
ubottusacrelicious: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub222:23
vltSomelauw: aptitude will tell you22:24
benccEduard_Munteanu: 32bit php use much less ram22:24
benccEduard_Munteanu: is it possible?22:24
sacreliciouswylde, what do you mean?22:24
vltkostkon: What do you mean? -ao alsa:device=default:CARD=K6?22:24
kostkonlivelaughlearn, which one of the converters's end connects to the laptop? the usb or the hdmi plug22:24
Somelauwvlt: does it also include all dependencies and configuration files?22:24
Eduard_Munteanubencc: it should be, yes. But you should try looking at the x32 ABI.22:24
wyldesacrelicious: I mean it looks like your boot manager isn't there or damaged22:25
Somelauwvlt: "Need to get 60.1 MB of archives. After unpacking 115 MB will be used." is what it says for virtualbox.22:25
livelaughlearnkostkon, thanks so far, the usb22:25
[FreeBSD]vlt: you can specify the card in mplayers config22:25
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sacreliciouswylde, got it, should i just install grub through terminal to /dev/xxx?22:25
vltSomelauw: Usually yes. Except when it's a pkg that will download and compile something from somewhere.22:25
Somelauwonly got 7GB left and I need at least 5GB to stay free from trouble22:25
kostkonvlt, if there is such an option, then yes22:25
livelaughlearnkostkon http://www.mygica.com/product.asp?id=13622:25
vlt[FreeBSD]: How?22:26
wyldesacrelicious: I'd suggest doing a little reading on the second link that was posted first22:26
benccEduard_Munteanu: what is x32 ABI?22:26
sacreliciousthanks, will do22:26
vltkostkon: Yes what? What does yes mean?22:26
Eduard_Munteanubencc: it's x86-64 with 32-bit pointers.22:26
Eduard_MunteanuNot sure Ubuntu supports it though.22:26
benccEduard_Munteanu: how do I use it? can it help me install a 32bit php package?22:27
sacreliciousubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda222:27
sacreliciousPath `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.22:27
wyldeyou can run 32bit on 64 I do believe, but you have to have all the 32bit libs as well.22:27
sacreliciouswylde, sorry, i'm a newbie, i dont understand what any of this means22:27
drfaustusterminal is not working,what should i do?22:28
kostkonlivelaughlearn, you could try this suggestion: http://askubuntu.com/a/51824/1651     hoping that the converter is displaylink compatible22:29
drfaustusthe cursor is lost22:29
[FreeBSD]vlt: there might be a commented config in /etc if not try in /usr/share/doc / examples, it's the ao= option ie ao=alsa:device=hw=1.022:30
livelaughlearnkostkon will do thanks! fingers crossed22:30
Eduard_Munteanubencc: no, the idea was to use an x32 build, which pretty much addresses x86-64-related concerns22:30
kostkonlivelaughlearn, install the package, then reboot, then check if something has changed22:30
kostkonanything*22:30
kostkonvlt, i mean i can see there is such an option, you could give it a try.22:31
Eduard_Munteanubencc: anyway, try installing the 32bit PHP, just like with any other multiarch package22:32
benccEduard_Munteanu: how?22:32
benccEduard_Munteanu: will it work with 64bit apache?22:32
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Eduard_Munteanubencc: it might not22:33
Eduard_Munteanubencc: how many clients do you serve, and how much memory does 64-bit PHP eat up there? It might not be a concern after all.22:34
Eduard_MunteanuIMO you shouldn't opt for x32 / x86-32 unless there's good reason to.22:35
drfaustusterminal is not working,what should i do?22:37
drfaustusthe cursor is lost22:37
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occtry another terminal/console emulator?22:37
occmaybe that one is bugged22:37
sacreliciousso i'm having trouble booting, i ran bootfixer and was given this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6112608/22:37
sacreliciousany idea what the issue is? i've been working on this for a few hours...22:38
drfaustuswhere r the other teminals?22:38
chocwiseYou have to install them, drfaustus22:38
occdownload any linux terminal.... i can only think of terminator of the top of my head22:38
Eduard_Munteanubencc: this tells you what multiarch is and how to use it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch22:38
chocwiseOpen up the Software Center and search for terminal.22:38
chocwiseAlso you could try pressing Alt+F2 and enter the command xterm.22:39
chocwiseIt should be pre-installed.22:39
Fyodorovnasacrelicious, you remove the windows on purpose?22:41
sacreliciousFyodorovna, i was trying to create a partition, but i dont think i knew what i was doing, pretty sure i screwed it up. tried to reinstall linux using the "erase" option, and now i can not boot to it22:41
sacreliciousFyodorovna, i really don't need windows, was just going to make a small windows partition just to have it,22:42
traplinanyone?22:42
Fyodorovna[15:41] sacrelicous, that does not really answer the question.22:42
sacreliciousFyodorovna, i did, yes, or at least tried to22:43
drfaustus<chocwise>, it's ok,i had 2 changr the font color22:43
sacreliciousFyodorovna, is there a way to just format my harddrive through a live cd? i might try a fresh install22:43
sacreliciousFyodorovna, i'm getting a GPT warning when i start Gparted, dont even know what that is22:43
Eduard_Munteanusacrelicious: a newer partition table format22:44
traplinwhenever i try change display settings (dual monitors), second monitor being used as an extension, i get an error about the size requested being too high, when it isnt? even selecting the lowest possible reso. it still gives the error22:45
Dr_Willisif you installed linux and just cant 'boot' try the boot-repair tool to try to fix the bootloader22:45
Dr_Willis!fixboot | sacrelicious22:45
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sacreliciousDr_Willis, I did, I was given this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6112608/22:45
benccEduard_Munteanu: thanks but I don't understand how to install 32bit php on 64bit ubuntu with multiarch22:45
Dr_Willistraplin:  are the monitors side by side, or above each other?22:45
sacreliciousis there a way i can just completely wipe my HD from a live CD?22:46
Fyodorovnasacrelicious, you have a uefi computer, there are work arounds, however I'm not up on these, I would have left the windows myself22:46
traplinDr_Willis: they are side by side?22:46
kostkonbencc, usually, it's apt-get install pacakge_name:i38622:46
Eduard_Munteanubencc: you just do  apt-get install php5:i386   or whatever it is named22:46
[FreeBSD]sacrelicious: yes22:46
Fyodorovna!uefi22:46
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI22:46
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sacrelicious[FreeBSD], how do i do it? I think i screwed up my partitions by not knowing what I'm doing, thinking of just doing a full wipe and then starting from the live cd again22:46
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  your pastebin says theres no bootloader installed on either drive.  boot-repair chould try ti reinstall it.22:47
[FreeBSD]sacrelicious: in gparted choose the disk, click partition at the top and new partition table22:47
[FreeBSD]choose mbr or gpt22:47
bencckostkon, Eduard_Munteanu: will php 32bit work with Apach 64bit and postgrs 64bit?22:47
kostkonbencc, have no idea22:47
sacreliciousDr_Willis, i already ran it22:47
Eduard_Munteanubencc: mod_php might not22:48
bencckostkon: thanks22:48
kostkonbencc, np :P22:48
benccEduard_Munteanu: I'll try installing 32bit Apache as well22:48
Eduard_Munteanubencc: as for Postgres it will require 32bit client libs I presume22:48
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  you have just the one hard drive? or 2?22:48
sacreliciousDr_Willis, 122:48
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  becase all the errors i see are about sdb - You are booting from cd or a usb flash?22:49
sacreliciousDr_Willis, flash22:49
sacreliciousDr_Willis, when i take it out, i just get a message that i have no bootable device22:49
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  ok. so sda is the flash. sdb is the hard drive22:50
traplinDr_Willis:  any ideas?22:50
Dr_Willishow did you install to the hard drive? just used the normal installer? nothing weird?22:50
Avgvalol hey22:50
sacreliciousDr_Willis, normal installer. but I tried to do some partitioning when I installed it, which I have not done before,22:50
Avgvatest22:51
sacreliciousthe 3 partitions i have are dev/sda1, dev/sda2 (what I'm trying to boot to), and a swap22:51
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  sacrelicious  so what is the other hd? is it a 8gb flash or somthing? it seems  very tiny.22:51
sacreliciousDr_Willis, swap22:51
wyldeDr_Willis: /dev/sdb1 overlaps with /dev/sdb2 <----- key line perhaps?22:51
DeM0nFiReHello, was wondering if there's somewhere to get a minimal cd for 13.10 yet, haven't been able to find it yet22:51
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  somthing seems very weird with the disk layout. You could use gparted to just delete all the partions on the hd. and let the installer repartion as needed22:52
sacreliciousDr_Willis, sounds good, how do i do that?22:52
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  that might be the easiest thing to try. I dont even see a  extX partion on the sdb22:52
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  run  gparted and delte the partions.22:52
Dr_Willissudo apt-get install gparted22:52
Dr_Willisgksudo gparted /dev/sdb22:53
sacreliciousDr_Willis, gotcha.22:53
Dr_WillisDisk /dev/sdb: 8023 MB, 8023703552 bytes22:53
Dr_Willissdb looks like its only 8gb here.22:53
Dr_WillisDisk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes22:53
Dr_Willissda  is 1tb. it seems22:53
vlt[FreeBSD]: Yes, I know the -ao option and I used it to specify the device. i just get the error that it's not found. (While I get no problem when putting "device default:CARD=K6" into mpd.conf or use it with aplay.)22:54
Dr_Willisi would be sure to check that we dont have sda and sdb backwards22:54
Dr_Willissda looks like the hard drive you are installing to. in one part of the logs. but the other part sort of tries to work on sdb.22:55
sacreliciousDr_Willis, i'm assuming this process will take a while, correct?22:55
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  the installer SHOULD be able to delete all partions and remake them also.22:55
sacreliciousDr_Willis, already tried that, i have no idea what i messed up trying to partition myself22:56
sacreliciousDr_Willis, thats why i ask, is there a way to erase my entire HD and start clean from a live cd22:56
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  start clean -> use gparted to delete all the partions22:56
sacreliciousDr_Willis, gotcha.22:56
Dr_Willisyou dont really need to use gpt layout -   i never do. but im on older machines22:57
drfaustus has anyone got"alexander khalifman,According to Anand,vol. 12"?23:00
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sacreliciousDr_Willis, how long should this take to erase all partitions?23:03
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jhutchinssacrelicious: A second or two to delete them.23:04
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sacreliciousjhutchins, its been like...20 mins, just says that its pending23:04
jhutchinssacrelicious: Then you're stuck.23:04
jhutchinssacrelicious: There may be a problem with the drive.23:04
wilee-nileesacrelicious, if this is gparted hit the green check in the panel23:05
jhutchinssacrelicious: If you were doing a secure erase, like for encryption, that would be understandable, but to just delete partitions from the table it should be seconds.23:05
sacreliciouswilee-nilee, ah jesus, it was just that easy, thanks, lol23:05
wilee-nilee;)23:05
sacreliciousok i'm gonna try this again23:05
sacreliciouswill be back if i have issues23:05
wilee-nileeGood luck23:06
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* ttysteale slaps ttysteale around a bit with a large fishbot23:11
sacreliciousok, i used gparted to erase all partitions, reinstalled ubuntu, still wont boot23:19
sacreliciousi'm getting this error when I start gparted:23:20
Dr_Willisthat was a fast reinstall..23:20
dhaval2712Hey I can't "apply changes" to use the nvidia driver in Ubuntu23:20
dhaval2712I click on apply changes and it stalls at 10%23:20
Dr_Willisdhaval2712:  what driver are you trying to use? you could just use apt-get to install it directly23:20
sacrelicious/dev/sdb contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table. However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should. Perhaps it was corrupted - possibly by a program that doesn't understand GPT partition tables. Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table, and are now using an msdos partition table. Is this a GPT partition table?23:21
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  you might want to 'zero'  out the drive and remake the partion table.23:21
sacreliciousDr_Willis, not sure what that means.23:21
dhaval2712Dr_Willis I did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras and it shows up in the "Additional Drivers" section, but I can't Apply it.23:21
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  Im not sure of how else to fix it. since i dont use gparted or gpt much23:21
sacrelicioushow do i just wipe my entire harddrive?23:21
sacreliciousi used a windows program called DBan once23:21
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  somthing like 'sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=4M'     and DONT get sdx wrong.23:22
sacreliciousDr_Willis, that will erase my entire HD?23:22
Dr_Willisdhaval2712:  ubuntu-restricted-extras will not install the nvidia drivers.. the nvidia-current package will23:22
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  it will ZERO out the HD  - making it unpartioned23:22
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  totally eraseing it23:22
dhaval2712so I install the nvidia-current package and run nvidia-xconfig and that's it right?23:23
Dr_Williswith extreme prejudice23:23
Dr_Willisdhaval2712:  thats all i ever do23:23
dhaval2712Alright.23:23
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  be SURE you get the right /dev/sdX device23:23
Dr_Williswhen you repartion the hard drive. I dont think you have to set it to be 'gpt' but im not sure on that. it may depend on the hd size. That was a 1tb hd?23:24
dhaval2712Dr_Willis, nevermind, it worked almost. Seems it's just taking too long.23:24
Dr_Willisdhaval2712:  server may be loaded. ;)23:25
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dhaval2712Oh, so it doesn't download it with restricted extras. I don't suppose kmod-nvidia would do anything23:26
dhaval2712?23:26
Dr_Willis!info kmod-nvidia23:26
ubottuPackage kmod-nvidia does not exist in raring23:26
Guest16938KEN23:26
sacreliciousDr_Willis,  what about sudo shred?23:27
Dr_Willisi basically  bootup.. install 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current' let it do its thing.. reboot.. then run nvidia-settings23:27
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  dd  is allready installed. ;)23:27
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  and may be faster.. actually you really only need to let dd run for a few seconds - that will zero out the partion table.23:27
sacreliciousDr_Willis, i have done this several times though, i'm confused23:28
Dr_Willissacrelicious:  zeroing the hd will let you make it  a normal msdos partion tabe. Not gpt. that Might be the whole issue23:28
sacreliciousDr_Willis, ok23:28
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sacreliciousDr_Willis, ok, what do you mean by dont get the sdX wrong?23:29
sacreliciousDr_Willis, I'm not sure what that means, as I have 3 partitions that are sdX23:30
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Dr_Willissacrelicious:  sda sdb sdc are DRIVES.. not partions23:31
Dr_Willisyou are eraseing a DRIVE. ;)23:31
sacreliciousgot it23:31
kostkonsacrelicious, it's sdaX where X is the partition23:31
kostkonsdXY ok  X drive, Y partition23:32
sacreliciousubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of/dev/sda bs=4M23:32
sacreliciousdd: unrecognized operand ‘of/dev/sda’23:32
sacreliciousTry 'dd --help' for more information.23:32
kostkonof=23:32
sacreliciouswait, nevermind23:32
Random832*cough* cp /dev/zero /dev/sda23:33
Random832you almost _never_ actually need dd for the things most people use dd for23:33
sacreliciouswell,23:33
sacreliciousi typed that out, nothing happened....23:33
sacreliciousthough, when I open Gparted i get a message that it is scanning all devices, and nothing happens23:34
sacreliciousdoes that mean it worked?23:34
Random832no ide, what are you trying to do?23:34
sacreliciousRandom832, erase my entire HD23:34
Random832ok... what exactly didn't happen when you ran the command?23:34
Marduukhello everyone23:34
Random832it should wait a long time, then stop23:34
sacreliciousRandom832, well, nothing. i just got a new prompt on a new line23:35
Random832after how much time23:35
sacreliciousdunno, few seconds?23:35
Random832how big is your drive23:35
sacrelicious1TB23:35
Random832and is it a ssd or hard drive23:35
sacreliciousHD.23:35
Random832hmm... maybe you should run the dd command, it at least has a progress output23:35
sacreliciousehh...my terminal is dead right now, every time i type a command and hit enter it just moves to a new line23:36
sacreliciouswhy the hell is this so hard....i've been trying to get linux to work all day,23:36
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Marduuki am having issues getting ubuntu 13.04 x64 to install, when i boot the flash drive it starts installing then i get a video out of sync mode, this on on 2 different monitors, my lg says it is at 39Hz and my samsung says not optimum mode23:36
sacreliciousalso, i can not even open gparted at the moment23:37
Diamondcitesacrelicious: New line? Do you have any networked deviced attached?23:37
DiamondciteOr is the HDD indicator light stuck on?23:37
sacreliciousDiamondcite, wireless internet, obviously, usb key, thats it23:37
sacreliciousDiamondcite, i have no idea.23:37
Random832sacrelicious: ... that means it's running.23:37
Random832how exactly did you have a new prompt?23:37
wilee-nileeMarduuk, unplug one monitor and boot to the live desktop23:37
sacreliciousjust keep hitting enter, and nothings happening in the terminal23:38
Random832try pressing ctrl-c23:38
tjbiddleHey guys - Think I'm searching for the wrong terms or something. I'm trying to change an EC2 to stop pointing at an instance that's running dnsmasq for it's dns provider, to instead point at AWS Route 53. Sounds like I need to change something in resolve.conf and then reload something?23:38
sacrelicious^C9416+0 records in23:38
sacrelicious9416+0 records out23:38
sacrelicious39493566464 bytes (39 GB) copied, 327.266 s, 121 MB/s23:38
sacreliciousubuntu@ubuntu:~$23:38
FloodBot1sacrelicious: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:38
Random832ok, dd was running23:38
sacreliciousah23:38
Random832what exactly did you see that made you think a new prompt had appeared23:38
Random832run it again23:38
erbalisthi. how can i rename 'x%03d.png' to 144+%03d.png?23:38
sacreliciousrun dd again?23:38
sacreliciousnothing, just an empty line with a cursor23:38
Random832and it'll probably be, well, about two and a half hours23:39
sacreliciousgotcha.23:39
Random832that's not a prompt23:39
Random832erasing a 1TB drive takes a long time; why do you need to erase it?23:39
sacreliciousRandom832, messed up partitioning not knowing what I am doing, I can't boot to anything right now.23:39
Diamondcite..23:39
DiamondciteWhy use dd to format?23:40
Diamondcitegparted is much faster23:40
sacreliciousRandom832, even after doing a clean "erase HD and install linux", it wont boot23:40
Random832sacrelicious: you can probably stop now, actually23:40
sacreliciousDiamondcite, already tried that.23:40
Dr_Willisdd does not FORMAT23:40
Random832ctrl-c again and run gparted23:40
Diamondcitesacrelicious: How big is this HDD?23:40
Dr_Willisdd is to totally blank out the partion table23:40
Random832it didn't work before because you tried to open gparted while dd was running23:40
kostkonDiamondcite, needs to erase the partition table23:40
sacreliciousDr_Willis, thats why I'm running it, sorry, using wrong terms maybe23:40
Random832the partition table is at the very start, right?23:41
Ben64sacrelicious: you just need to create an msdos partition table23:41
Random832stop dd and run gparted again23:41
Diamondcitekostkon: gparted can already do that, dd is pointless beyond the first few bytes.23:41
sacreliciousBen64, i dont know how to do that.23:41
Ben64sacrelicious: gparted can do it23:41
Dr_Willisyou partion a drive  makiign a patition table if its unpartioned. then make partions which you then format23:41
Dr_Willisbe sure to make a msdos parttion table. Not gpt. ;) when it asks23:41
kostkonDiamondcite, fine by me, just tell sacrelicious how to do it23:41
DiamondciteNo one has mentioned, how big is the drive that won't boot?23:41
sacreliciousDiamondcite, 1TB23:42
wilee-nilee123:42
wilee-nilee Terrabyte23:42
kostkonlarge enough23:42
Diamondcitesacrelicious: Have you tried making boot it's own smaller partition? Like 200MB for example?23:42
Random832sacrelicious: stop dd now (with ctrl-c) then run gparted again23:42
sacreliciousRandom832, ok, then what?23:42
Random832well, does it run?23:43
sacreliciousyeah with a long warning message23:43
Random832what does the warning message say?23:43
sacrelicious/dev/sdb contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table.  However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should.  Perhaps it was corrupted -- possibly by a program that doesn't understand GPT partition tables.  Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table, and are now using an msdos partition table.  Is this a GPT partition table?23:43
Marduukwilee, i only have 1 monitor plugged in23:43
dhaval2712I can't use the Unity dash after installing the nvidia drivers?23:44
Random832uh, crap23:44
Random832exit out of gparted23:44
Random832you need to do something else in dd, that should only take a few minutes23:44
sacreliciousok23:44
Random832what's the _exact_ size of your hard drive, like in bytes?23:44
Random832cat /proc/partitions and paste the big number by /dev/sda23:44
Dr_Williserr.. you said sda... he said sdb.23:45
Random832...he said sda before23:45
Dr_Willisso which drive is the one we are trying to work on?23:45
sacreliciousehh, theres several23:45
Dr_Willissacrelicious | /dev/sdb contains GPT signatures,23:45
sacreliciouscan i paste them? its like...7 lines23:45
Dr_Willishe seems to have used gparted on sdb23:45
Dr_Willisnot sda23:45
Random832sacrelicious: which one is the 1 TB one you are having a problem with23:45
Random832and which one were you erasing with dd23:45
Marduukwilee-nilee, did you see my last response?23:45
sacrelicious   7        0     755132 loop023:45
sacrelicious   8        0  976762584 sda23:45
sacrelicious   8        1      96256 sda123:45
sacrelicious   8        2  968464384 sda223:45
sacrelicious   8        3    8200192 sda323:45
FloodBot1sacrelicious: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:45
sacrelicious   8       16    7835648 sdb23:45
Random832and did you have any important data on ANY disk attached to this machine?23:45
Random832so... sda is the 1TB one23:46
DiamondcitePaste flood, silenced23:46
DiamondciteHe can't reply23:46
kostkon:/23:46
Random832he's back23:46
sacreliciousRandom832, i dont know, i was just trying to get this thing to work, honestly, i have never worked with partitions before23:46
Random832sacrelicious: did you have any important data on this machine?23:46
sacreliciousRandom832, and important data, no, not at all, its a new machine23:46
Random832ok, sda is the 1 TB drive23:46
Random832so, you've already erased the start of it, let's erase the end of it23:46
Dr_Willisand the gparted message was about sdb.23:46
kostkonthe usb... stick...?23:47
sacreliciouskostkon, i'm assuming sdb would be the stick i'm running a live session from23:47
Random832dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda seek=976000000K23:47
kostkonsacrelicious, then it's a false alarm23:47
Random832then after that finishes, gparted /dev/sda23:48
dhaval2712Hey what's the default ubuntu console font?23:48
wilee-nileeMarduuk, Are you booting to the desktop to run the install?23:48
sacreliciousubuntu@ubuntu:~$ dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda seek=976000000K23:49
sacreliciousdd: opening ‘/dev/sda’: Permission denied23:49
Random832sudo23:49
kostkondhaval2712, ubuntu mono?23:49
sacreliciousubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda seek=976000000K23:49
sacreliciousdd: ‘/dev/sda’: cannot seek: Invalid argument23:49
sacrelicious0+0 records in23:49
sacrelicious0+0 records out23:49
sacrelicious0 bytes (0 B) copied, 0.000593992 s, 0.0 kB/s23:49
FloodBot1sacrelicious: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:49
dhaval2712is it? I don't know. I mean for the ttys23:49
kostkondhaval2712, ah. no idea. where that font is coming from23:50
Marduukwilee-nilee, you there?23:50
Random832hmm23:50
tjbiddleIs there an Amazon Web Services IRC channel that anyone knows about?23:50
Random832sacrelicious: try gparted /dev/sda anyway23:50
dhaval2712Holy heck, it's terminus! Lot's and lot's of terminus.23:51
Random832and like the bot said, use paste.ubuntu.com for pasting23:51
wilee-nileeMarduuk, Yes I just asked you a question.23:51
kostkondhaval2712, good font then ;)23:51
sacreliciousRandom832, ok, did so, gparted opens, one unallocated portion, 931GB and change.23:51
Random832ok - create the partitions now23:51
Marduuki have tried to boot live version, and tried to install directly, both go out of frequency23:51
Random832someone suggested making a small one at the beginning of the drive for /boot23:51
sacreliciousRandom832, create new partition table?23:52
Random832yes23:52
sacreliciousPartition(s) 3 on /dev/sda have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use.  As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use.  You should reboot now before making further changes.23:52
Random832ok, what partitions did you make23:52
sacreliciousi didn't, i just went to create new partition table, it did it on its own23:52
Random832....what partitions did _it_ make, then?23:53
Random832i'm suspicious of automatic settings23:53
Marduukisnt there a boot arguement to set freq and resolution?23:53
sacreliciousehh...none.23:53
sacreliciousits still unallocated.23:53
Random832ok, the message was confusing23:53
Guest65804i installed the steam.deb, and steam ran the first time... but now when I try to run it, it says STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically, and then returns the prompt.... I found directions online that said to run apt-get remove steam; and then reinstall it, but when I run that, apt tells me I dont have steam installed....23:53
Random832you should make a small one at the start for /boot23:53
Random832then - how much memory do you have? desktop or laptop?23:53
sacreliciousi'm assuming i should reboot, and come back here from my live cd?23:53
Random832wait, you _weren't_ on the live cd?23:53
sacreliciousno, i'm on my live cd23:53
* Random832 is confused23:54
* sacrelicious is more confused.23:54
kostkonGuest65804, actually the package is steam-launcher. try install that23:54
Marduukare the drives unmounted?23:54
Random832yeah you should probably reboot at this point - don't know why it did that, but rebooting is probably a good idea23:54
sacreliciousRandom832, i'm going to reboot right now, and come back here, and see if partitions were actually created.23:54
Random832it probably didn't, but reboting should clear up the "can't tell the kernel" problem, which you'll need anyway23:55
Marduukyay, the person helping me left23:55
bencchow can I run services in a chroot on boot?23:56
benccI want to have a server in a chroot listening to a real port23:56
Guest65804what's the proper way to install a local .deb?23:57
Guest65804in the rhel world it's yum localinstall .rpm23:57
kostkonGuest65804, steam is also in the repos23:57
Dr_WillisGuest65804:  sudo dpkg -i foo.deb  or sudo gdebi foo.deb23:57
benccGuest65804: dpkg -i packagename23:57
Guest65804kostkon: not it's not, i just did apt-cache search steam and it was not returned...23:57
Guest65804i did a search after I did the apt-get purge steam-launcher, and then apt-get install steam-launcher failed for some reason..23:58
kostkonGuest65804, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/steam-launcher/23:58
SacreliciousRandom832, ok so, rebooted, tried to run gparted, same error message, same unallocated 931gb sector23:58
kostkonGuest65804, it is23:58
Dr_Willishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve     alternatve install methods23:59
Random832wait, what error message?23:59
SacreliciousRandom832, the long GPT one23:59
Random832did it say /dev/sda?23:59

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