[00:13] <Jonathan__> that doesnt work
[00:13] <Jonathan__> I tried it it said that it cant find it
[00:19] <Guest65804> why do I have to keep right clicking on the speaker icon and selecting the master channel to get the volume keys to work? How do I get it to save that setting?
[00:24] <Snowhog> Jonathan__: k9copy isn't being developed since 2011. The developer 'gave up' on the project.
[00:24] <Jonathan__> so we cant get it anymore???
[00:25] <Snowhog> Jonathan__: You can get the 'latest' source and compile it yourself: http://k9copy.sourceforge.net/web/index.php/en/download
[00:26] <Jonathan__> how do u compile it?
[00:30] <Greylocks_> Jonathan__: http://www.wikihow.com/Compile-a-Program-in-Linux check this.
[00:35] <Snowhog> Jonathan__: The 'last' Ubuntu versions of k9copy are for Lucid, Precise, and Quantal: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/k9copy
[01:21] <yoo213> !ops
[01:23] <thelionroars> ask for an op, get an op :P
[01:24] <skreech__> What just happened?
[01:52] <EarendilTheMarin> test
[02:46] <lars__> agin
[02:46] <lars__> anyone here?
[02:51] <lars__> test
[03:12] <lars__> test
[03:12] <lars__> Anyone here?
[03:12] <lars__> Anyone here know how to use Kubuntu?
[03:20] <lars__> Does anyone know how to setup the network connections?
[03:20] <lars__> Does anyone know anything aobut network connections?
[03:21] <lars__> Iḿ trying to fix myh netwwork connections
[04:25] <wafflejock_> is there anybody out there?
[05:05] <lars__> I have trouble typing quotes and apostrophes.  Itś a problem. See
[05:06] <lars__> is there an easy and safe way to change my global keyboard settings using the Kate text editor?
[05:07] <lars__> I have a new logitech wired up keyboard that uses U.S. English, itś a standard keyboard hooked up with USB connector
[05:09] <lars__> actually doesn the KDE help link have thing that tells you how to fix the keyboard settings?
[05:36] <ozysimpson> sorry for cross posting: Could some one please point me to a document or help me in Setting up RAID on an existing Ubuntu Machine, the machine only had 2TB hard drive, i saw my friends machine just die last week and lost most of his data, I am being little cautious here went and brought another disk 2TB now my ubuntu is able to see the disk, could some one tell me how to setup as RAID 1 mirror please
[05:51] <IdleOne> !raid
[06:02] <ozysimpson> Tm_T, you here?
[07:16] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:43] <cluelesscoder> hey, I'm trying to understand .profile and stuff and was reading http://mywiki.wooledge.org/DotFiles
[07:44] <cluelesscoder> does X session apply to kubuntu for login? he mentions kdm at the end, but Muon is telling me kdm is not installed
[07:47] <lordievader> cluelesscoder: X session applies to Xorg, since we are still using X. Yes this applies to both kdm as lightdm.
[08:05] <cluelesscoder> thanks lordievader just trying to see how things fit together - that helps
[08:59] <colin_> hi helloooooooo
[09:00] <colin_> anyone there?
[09:00] <jussi> no
[09:00] <jussi> :P
[09:00] <colin_> oh this is a good room aint it NOT
[09:01] <jussi> colin_: did you have a question?
[09:02] <jussi> (if you just want to chat, join us in #kubuntu-offtopic)
[09:03] <lordievader> colin_: There are a lot of idlers, does that count?
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> on my desktop icons: what's the use of the +/- sign?
[11:28] <Graf_Westerholt> MonkeyDust, you can add or remove a desktop. :)
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> Graf_Westerholt  not sure what you mean: there's the arrow up, which shows the content of the folder, but the +/- doesnt seem to do anything
[11:30] <Graf_Westerholt> MonkeyDust, I am not sure what you mean. Can you please show a screenshot?
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> Graf_Westerholt  sure: this plus-sign http://imagebin.org/271069
[11:34] <Graf_Westerholt> MonkeyDust, that is to multiselect items without the keyboard.
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> Graf_Westerholt  ok, great, thanks
[11:35] <Graf_Westerholt> MonkeyDust, no problem. Glad to help you. :)
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:57] <ovidiu-florin> I'm trying to install kubuntu 13.04 on an old computer, but the installer keeps crashing after I enter the user info and click next
[13:57] <ovidiu-florin> what to do?
[13:58] <ovidiu-florin> I'm installing it in Romanian, but that shouldn't affect it.
[14:02] <ovidiu-florin> I'm using a USB flash drive with grub2 and the Kubuntu ISO. I've installed it from this drive on other computers, and it worked just fine. So I don't understand what is the issue?
[14:02] <ovidiu-florin> where are the logs for the installer stored?
[14:03] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: You could try with the Precise alternate disk and then upgrade to 13.04.
[14:03] <ovidiu-florin> I'm affraid of those upgrades
[14:04] <ovidiu-florin> they always turned out bad for me
[14:07] <ovidiu-florin> why isn't there a text based installer for 13.04?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, older computers won't boot the image from usb
[14:08] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: it's already booted
[14:09] <ovidiu-florin> and I've used it to make the data backup
[14:09] <BluesKaj> plop ?
[14:09] <ovidiu-florin> but the installer crashes
[14:09] <ovidiu-florin> what is plop ?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> !plop
[14:11] <ovidiu-florin> ah, boot manager
[14:11] <BluesKaj> http://www.plop.at/en/plopkexec.html
[14:12] <ovidiu-florin> no, I'm using grub on a 4GB flash drive where I have 4 Kubuntu ISO LTS and latest, x86 and x86_64 for each
[14:12] <BluesKaj> so the pc isn't real old then if it boots from usb
[14:12] <ovidiu-florin> I guess
[14:13] <ovidiu-florin> but still the installer crashes even if I use english to install it
[14:15] <ovidiu-florin> where are the installer logs stored?
[16:16] <ovidiu-florin> anyone?
[16:16] <ovidiu-florin> what happenend?
[16:17] <Graf_Westerholt> ovidiu-florin, how can we help you?
[16:18] <ovidiu-florin> so this connection is still alive, I've just got no answer
[16:18] <ovidiu-florin> I'm trying to install Kubuntu 13.04 on a desktop but the installer keeps crashing after the user info page
[16:23] <mokush> does anybody when where the kde icons are, as in folder on disk?
[16:51] <cire_nonick> Hi, I am using kontact at home and at work for nearly everything (mail, kontacts, calendar) but since a long time I have a lot of problems with my imap accounts. They, after some time, sometimes directly after startup, either appear as offline, or freeze, which means no new mails arrive and not cached ones cannot be viewed.
[16:51] <cire_nonick> This renders it unusable. Restarting akonadiserver helps for a short time.
[16:51] <cire_nonick> I did a fresh configuration, thinking my old config was the problem, but the problems came back.
[16:52] <cire_nonick> Is this a known issue, if yes is it being fixed, or how could I help fixing it?
[16:52] <cire_nonick> I think these problems exist since more than a year now. I am quite used to do killall akonadiserver and restart it, now ;)
[16:58] <cire_nonick> I will ask in a more direct way: Does anybody use kontact (kmail) with akonadi, and does NOT have these problems? I have 2 computers, 12.10 and 13.04, both having that issue...
[17:02] <Graf_Westerholt> cire_nonick, Akonadi does always problems.
[17:05] <cire_nonick> Graf_Westerholt: I know. I really know. It always makes problems for months now. Is this the situation? Leaving people with serious bugs? I like the idea behind akonadi, but I will change to sth different. Getting laughed at several times if I miss important mails at work. This is no fun.
[17:06] <Graf_Westerholt> cire_nonick, Akonadi is very buggy for a long time.
[17:06] <cire_nonick> They use evolution or thunderbird and no problems.
[17:06] <Graf_Westerholt> cire_nonick, I cannot open my wastebin in Kmail. Akonadi seems to chrash then. That is normal.
[17:06] <ovidiu-florin> It's not normal
[17:07] <ovidiu-florin> what version of KDE?
[17:07] <ovidiu-florin> cire_nonick: 
[17:07] <ovidiu-florin> ^^
[17:07] <FloodBotK1> ovidiu-florin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:07] <Graf_Westerholt> Akonadi is bad. That is a fact.
[17:07] <cire_nonick> ovidiu-florin: at home 4.10.5
[17:08] <ovidiu-florin> I'm using Kmail for more than an year on more than one computer
[17:08] <cire_nonick> at work I don't know. Latest in kubuntu 12.10
[17:08] <ovidiu-florin> and I don't experience those problems
[17:08] <Graf_Westerholt> ovidiu-florin, but I have problems with Akonadi. And other people, too.
[17:08] <ovidiu-florin> cire_nonick: I recommend that you use the kubuntu backports to get the latest KDE
[17:08] <Graf_Westerholt> ovidiu-florin, I cannot open e-mails in the wastebin in Kmail.
[17:08] <cire_nonick> ovidiu-florin: having these problems for several montzhs now. Having two computers, also did some fresh installation in between.
[17:09] <cire_nonick> when saying months this may also mean more than a year
[17:09] <ovidiu-florin> This leads me to believe that there are problems with the Akonadi implementation on Kubuntu. I don't experience these issues on other distros
[17:10] <ovidiu-florin> Haven't used it on Kubuntu in a while though
[17:10] <cire_nonick> this is a pity.
[17:10] <cire_nonick> I really would like to help solving those problems. WHat can I do? Where are the important logs?
[17:10] <ovidiu-florin> I'll give it a try later today
[17:10] <ovidiu-florin> cire_nonick: do you know C++?
[17:10] <cire_nonick> no
[17:12] <cire_nonick> but I am not a noob, so I could do more than just pastebnin some logs if needed. I am also willing to setup a virtual machine to track this issue down.
[17:13] <ovidiu-florin> cire_nonick: Kmail, akonadi related chats take place in #kontact
[17:13] <cire_nonick> okay, tried #kde last time, no replies
[17:13] <ovidiu-florin> you should ask there for more specific details
[17:13] <cire_nonick> I will do so. Really like kontact
[17:14] <cire_nonick> I will wait until this happens again, then talk to the people in that channel. (restarted akonadiserver, so now it will work for some time)
[17:14] <ovidiu-florin> cire_nonick: on IRC you have to get lucky to get an answer that helps. The right person might not be around right then.
[17:15] <ovidiu-florin> cire_nonick: first of all
[17:15] <ovidiu-florin> use backports
[17:15] <cire_nonick> ovidiu-florin: I will give it a try
[17:15] <ovidiu-florin> and only complain about problems if you use the latest version of the software
[17:15] <ovidiu-florin> always install your updates
[17:16] <cire_nonick> but 13.04 is newest stable, thought backports are new packages made for old releases?
[17:17] <ovidiu-florin> cire_nonick: also https://bugs.kde.org/ is a good place to look if the problems you are experienced have already been reported and their status
[17:17] <ovidiu-florin> backports bring the latest KDE to any kubuntu version.
[17:17] <cire_nonick> ahh, so you are talking about kde backports, instead of kubuntu backports?
[17:17] <ovidiu-florin> Each kubuntu is released with a specific version of KDE. I think the most stable at the release time
[17:17] <ovidiu-florin> no
[17:18] <ovidiu-florin> kubuntu backports
[17:18] <cire_nonick> okay
[17:19] <ovidiu-florin> cire_nonick: sudo add-apt-repository kubuntu-ppa/backports
[17:19] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Complaining about Precise is perfectly fine, as long as it is supported ;)
[17:20] <cire_nonick> add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports you mean
[17:20] <cire_nonick> okay, did it
[17:20] <ovidiu-florin> wasn't so sure about the ppa: part
[17:20] <ovidiu-florin> thanks
[17:21] <ovidiu-florin> cire_nonick: now sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:21] <cire_nonick> should I do some apt-pinning now?
[17:21] <ovidiu-florin> or apritude or muon, what ever you preffer
[17:21] <cire_nonick> otherwise I will get all backports, right?
[17:21] <cire_nonick> which means a "testing" system
[17:21] <ovidiu-florin> what message did you get when adding backports?
[17:22] <cire_nonick> okay, I see. These are only kde backports...
[17:22] <ovidiu-florin> "Backports of new versions of KDE and major KDE apps for Kubuntu which are either too large a change or not yet tested enough to go to Ubuntu Backports."
[17:23] <ovidiu-florin> !backports
[17:23] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: is there a bot message for kubuntu backports?
[17:23] <lordievader> Not sure.
[17:23] <lordievader> !factoids
[17:23] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Click the first link and check ;)
[17:24] <cire_nonick> ovidiu-florin: thanks for your help. Going to test the backports now. If it worked this would be amazing!
[17:24] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: nope
[17:25] <lordievader> No factoid?
[17:27] <ovidiu-florin> not for kubuntu backports
[17:27] <ovidiu-florin> just ubuntu backports
[17:27] <lordievader> Well that's just too bad :(
[17:52] <bjrohan> It appears that my kontact account GoDaddy is very . .  slow in responding, any suggestions to speed it up?
[17:54] <bjrohan> For example when I delete a message, it says moving to trash, and that operation takes quite a while, 2 minutes or more. Is this taking so long because it is synving with GoDaddy?
[18:05] <ovidiu-florin> bjrohan: POP3 or IMAP
[18:31] <m_tadeu> how can I stream my desktop through the network?
[18:33] <m_tadeu> and...my rekong says this "rekonq does not know how to handle this protocol: gg"...how can I solve it?
[18:45] <ovidiu-florin> m_tadeu: how have you tried?
[18:48] <m_tadeu> ovidiu-florin: just put my search words in the url bar
[19:10] <ovidiu-florin> m_tadeu: I meant what ways to stream your desktop?
[19:12] <m_tadeu> ovidiu-florin: I want to stream my desktop as if it was a cctv camera....so I can grab it somewhere on my network
[19:36] <ovidiu-florin> what is the difference between a normal lib package and a -dev lib package? What do they both contain?
[19:37] <m_tadeu> ovidiu-florin: the dev packages contain development stuff, like header files...a lib package contains the libs programs use
[19:37] <ovidiu-florin> m_tadeu: and no header files on the normal lib package?
[19:38] <m_tadeu> not usualy
[19:38] <ovidiu-florin> great
[19:38] <ovidiu-florin> thanks
[19:39] <m_tadeu> welcome
[22:26] <Roey> hiiiiiiiii
[22:26] <Roey> BluesKaj:  hola!
[22:26] <Roey> question:
[22:27] <Roey> why is Firefox stalling after I hit click on Go?  It sometimes timesout without ever showing anything.  Chromium-browser shows stuff instantly