| popey | Right, time for bed for me. | 00:04 |
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| mihir___ | Good Morning guys :) | 06:33 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:49 |
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| JamesTait | Good morning all, happy Monday and happy International Day for the Preservation of the Ozone Layer! :-D | 09:01 |
| dholbach | dpm, popey: do we know of folks who are struggling with getting their app submitted or are we generally fine? | 10:10 |
| popey | dholbach: right now we're okay. | 10:12 |
| dholbach | good | 10:12 |
| popey | The two issues that everyone got yesterday... | 10:12 |
| popey | some app developers wanted to use picture_files so they could store/use photos | 10:13 |
| popey | e.g. photos of recipes in Saucy Bacon, photos of memories in Memories app, and also in Cnotes | 10:13 |
| popey | the other issue seemed to be a backend problem. We wasted too much time yesterday with the developers trying to understand and fix a problem which it turns out isn't supported by the backend yet AIUI | 10:14 |
| popey | "lint_control_architecture_valid_contents": "found binaries for architecture 'all': " | 10:14 |
| dholbach | popey, if they ship binaries, like .so files, they can change the architecture in the manifest to 'armhf' | 10:19 |
| dholbach | popey, this should be automatic in the future | 10:19 |
| popey | they did | 10:19 |
| popey | we had people change the arch and it still complained | 10:19 |
| dholbach | oh? | 10:19 |
| popey | which led to the frustration because neither I nor nik90_ knew the solution | 10:19 |
| dholbach | then jdstrand or beuno can maybe shed some light on this | 10:19 |
| popey | i saw beuno had let an app through with a comment that the backend wasn't done, so I let others through | 10:19 |
| popey | dholbach: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/61/feedback/ | 10:22 |
| dholbach | it seems Martin +1'd this and forgot to hit "approve"? | 10:22 |
| randomcpp | popey, hi :) | 10:24 |
| popey | hi randomcpp | 10:24 |
| randomcpp | yesterday I forgot to fix the bug with the keyboard | 10:24 |
| popey | that it obscures content? | 10:24 |
| randomcpp | but I don't know where to look :/ | 10:25 |
| randomcpp | yep | 10:25 |
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| nik90_ | good morning everyone :) | 10:53 |
| randomcpp | nik90_, morning :) | 10:53 |
| * nik90_ is going to start reviewing apps now | 10:54 | |
| randomcpp | nik90_, popey told me that on the phone, when the keyboard is showed, the textarea is covered by it | 10:54 |
| randomcpp | do you know if others had a similar issue? | 10:54 |
| nik90_ | randomcpp: Do you mean the recipe instruction textfield? | 10:55 |
| randomcpp | yes | 10:55 |
| nik90_ | randomcpp: yeah some othe people also had it | 10:55 |
| nik90_ | randomcpp: I think you can fix it with anchortoKeyboard: true or something | 10:55 |
| nik90_ | boiko knows about it but isnt online no | 10:56 |
| nik90_ | now* | 10:56 |
| randomcpp | :/ | 10:56 |
| randomcpp | nik90_, can I fix this kind of bugs even if the contest is over? | 10:57 |
| nik90_ | randomcpp: I am not sure if it would taken in consideration while judging the app for contest, but people using your app would like a fix later. | 10:58 |
| nik90_ | randomcpp: you should do it for them if not the contest | 10:58 |
| randomcpp | nik90_, ah ok.. | 10:59 |
| nik90_ | zsombi: I fixed many of the comments in the alarm MP. | 10:59 |
| nik90_ | randomcpp: but what you have to understand is that if you have a bug then most likely many of them have it as well. So at the end of the day, you are in the same plane as others | 10:59 |
| zsombi | nik90_ I saw it, just haven't had time yet to check them... | 11:00 |
| randomcpp | nik90_, ok, so I shouldn't be worried | 11:00 |
| nik90_ | zsombi: no worries | 11:00 |
| nik90_ | randomcpp: yes | 11:02 |
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| randomcpp | clepto, ping | 11:28 |
| clepto | randomcpp, pong | 11:41 |
| randomcpp | clepto, how did you get u1 sync? | 11:59 |
| clepto | randomcpp, I didn't, its not implemented yet I think | 12:00 |
| randomcpp | ah ok, | 12:00 |
| randomcpp | you scared me :p | 12:00 |
| clepto | haha | 12:00 |
| clepto | sorry :) | 12:00 |
| randomcpp | np :) | 12:00 |
| randomcpp | clepto, do you use ubuntu13.10 right? | 12:04 |
| clepto | randomcpp, 13.04 | 12:04 |
| randomcpp | ah ok | 12:05 |
| randomcpp | I don't know why I have lag with animations in saucy with fglrx drivers | 12:05 |
| randomcpp | with raring I hadn't a problem | 12:05 |
| clepto | randomcpp, what gpu? | 12:06 |
| randomcpp | 5650 mobility hd | 12:06 |
| clepto | no idea... | 12:06 |
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| jdstrand | nik90_: fyi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/ApplicationConfinement#Application_environment | 12:12 |
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| dholbach | jppiiroinen, I just saw your bug fix land for qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu - does it need an upload? | 12:59 |
| mefrio | beuno, hi :) | 13:15 |
| mefrio | beuno, have you said to judges about my app situation? :) | 13:15 |
| beuno | mefrio, I am passing it along, yes | 13:16 |
| mefrio | beuno, ok thank you :) | 13:17 |
| jppiiroinen | dholbach: Mirv is handling the stuff related to releasing :) ..i am just a tool ;P | 13:35 |
| dholbach | jppiiroinen, you're joking :) | 13:35 |
| dholbach | Mirv, was 2.8.1 ever uploaded or it this still in FF review? | 13:37 |
| oSoMoN | nerochiaro: would you mind reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/unskip-test/+merge/185806 ? it unskips and fixes an autopilot test that started consistently failing last week | 13:52 |
| nerochiaro | oSoMoN: on it in a minute when i finish running AP tests on device for another MR i had pending | 13:53 |
| oSoMoN | nerochiaro: thanks | 13:54 |
| nerochiaro | oSoMoN: well, i'm actually gonna wait for jenkins to do its thing and then test the generated pacages on device | 13:54 |
| oSoMoN | nerochiaro: makes sense | 13:54 |
| nerochiaro | oSoMoN: speaking of which, how would you do this same thing on a readonly image ? | 13:55 |
| nerochiaro | oSoMoN: i switched back to cdimage-touch (without --pending) as i can't work on the ro images at all | 13:55 |
| nerochiaro | for now | 13:55 |
| oSoMoN | nerochiaro: why not? | 13:55 |
| nerochiaro | oSoMoN: they are ro, i can't install debs | 13:55 |
| nerochiaro | oSoMoN: i can't even push them on the device | 13:56 |
| timp | nerochiaro: touch /userdata/.writable_image && reboot | 13:56 |
| oSoMoN | nerochiaro: there was an e-mail sent to ubuntu-phone@ on Sept. 5 titled "System images now the recommended way to deploy and update Ubuntu Touch" that explains how to make the RO images RW | 13:56 |
| nerochiaro | oSoMoN: i need to figure out a way to handle that mailing list. it's too high traffic | 13:57 |
| nerochiaro | oSoMoN: i keep missing important things | 13:57 |
| oSoMoN | nerochiaro: quickly scanning the subjects is usually enough to figure out whether a mail really is important or not | 13:58 |
| nerochiaro | oSoMoN: hasn't been working very well for me judging from the results | 13:58 |
| oSoMoN | nerochiaro: works for me, ymmv… | 13:59 |
| aquarius | dpm, ping about generic scopes | 14:05 |
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| dpm | hi aquarius, I'm about to enter a call with our mutual bearded friend, but feel free to ask and I'll read the scrollback :) | 14:54 |
| aquarius | dpm, ha! say hello for me :) | 14:54 |
| dpm | will do :) | 14:54 |
| aquarius | dpm, my idea is this: having to write scopes in C is sad for people like me who are not good at C, and it's sad for the compile step (which is hard if you need to cross-compile for arm, set up your environment so that's possible, etc). | 14:55 |
| aquarius | dpm, I think it ought to be possible to write, in C, a "generic scope", which receives JSON from a URL and renders its output. | 14:55 |
| dpm | aquarius, indeed. I was actually thinking about this. The template we've got on Qt Creator has no backend, and extending it to use a JSON backend might be a very good idea | 14:56 |
| dpm | note also that we recommend folks to develop scopes to run on the smart scopes server, so cross-compilation won't be as much of a pain unless you really want to run your scope locally | 14:57 |
| aquarius | That is: you add to the .scope file the URL to fetch (so there's a new entry, X-Ubuntu-Generic-Scope-Search-URL: http://myserver.com/search?q=%s) and the URL to fetch data about an individual item (so there's a new entry, X-Ubuntu-Generic-Scope-Search-URL: http://myserver.com/item?id=%s), and the scope is hardcoded to look for JSON that looks like {items: [ { id: "item1", image: "url of image", title: "title" | 14:57 |
| aquarius | , description: "dscription" }, ... ] } | 14:57 |
| aquarius | the idea here is that instead of writing a scope which works with the HTTP API my service provides, I use the generic scope and then provide an HTTP API that it can consume. | 14:58 |
| davidcalle | aquarius, maybe with some manifest like -> title:['result']['title'];i con:['result']['image']['thumbnail'] | 14:58 |
| davidcalle | manifest file* | 14:58 |
| aquarius | and all the customisation of the generic scope (which is not much) is done in the .scope file. | 14:58 |
| aquarius | pressing the "Open" button on a preview would run the command defined in the scope file, | 14:59 |
| aquarius | So if I wanted to write a service, I would write a .scope definition file and ship a shell script which does what I want to open an item | 14:59 |
| snizzo | how can I tell a webview to expand inside a Column item? | 15:00 |
| aquarius | and then my scope definition file would name *the generic scope* as my scope executable. | 15:00 |
| aquarius | that way, I can write scopes without having to compile anything, without having to set up a cross-compile thing. | 15:00 |
| aquarius | dpm, davidcalle, it would be possible to make this more complicated -- that is, define in the manifest how to parse the JSON feed. But I think that's too complex for step 1. Just state "your JSON feed has to look like THIS." and if you want to do something else, you have to write a C scope yourself. | 15:01 |
| aquarius | I can imagine Generic Scope Version 2 could have a thing in the manifest defining how to parse the feed, what the names of the attributes are, etc. But version 1 should just define what it wants a feed to look like, and you change the feed to look like it expects. | 15:02 |
| aquarius | snizzo, what does "expand" mean in this context? if you want it to be expanded widthwise, set anchors.left:parent.left, anchors.right:parent.right or similar. | 15:03 |
| snizzo | aquarius: isn't that not allowed to do inside a column? | 15:05 |
| aquarius | snizzo, a column lines up stuff vertically. It doesn't affect the horizontal width of your items, so if you want them to have a certain width you need to set iut | 15:05 |
| nerochiaro | bfiller: at the moment it looks like there's no QML bindings for libusermetrics, but if we want more apps to be abe to add data I think it might be a good idea to create them ? | 15:26 |
| nerochiaro | bfiller: camera app just exposes a few methods from it to the QML side | 15:27 |
| bfiller | nerochiaro: can we do the same in other apps for short term? otherwise I agree full bindings would be desireable | 15:27 |
| nerochiaro | bfiller: yes, it's not a problem to do that in other apps too, if you think it's best for the moment | 15:28 |
| bfiller | nerochiaro: how much of an effort would it be to make proper bindings? | 15:28 |
| nerochiaro | bfiller: a day or two i think, from what i've seen up to now. | 15:30 |
| bfiller | nerochiaro: guess it makes sense to start on the bindings but just for the functions we need for the apps | 15:33 |
| nerochiaro | bfiller: sounds good | 15:35 |
| oSoMoN | nerochiaro: would you mind approving https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/skip-flaky-test-slow-configs/+merge/185847 ? no need to wait for CI to run in this case, as all it does is skip a test known to be flaky | 15:56 |
| nerochiaro | oSoMoN: done | 16:05 |
| oSoMoN | nerochiaro: thanks | 16:05 |
| dholbach | Mirv, shall I sponsor an upload of qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu? | 16:34 |
| dholbach | it seems like there's a couple of good fixes in trunk | 16:35 |
| dholbach | bzoltan, ^ what do you think? | 16:39 |
| dholbach | bzoltan, I was also thinking: is 2.8.1 going to land? | 16:40 |
| dholbach | beuno, do you have any idea what we can do about https://plus.google.com/112114577111064174226/posts/ijRukyX7wpB? | 16:44 |
| * beuno looks | 16:45 | |
| beuno | dholbach, yeah, keep bumping the version | 16:46 |
| beuno | we're working on the underlying problem | 16:46 |
| dholbach | beuno, which version would you suggest there? | 16:46 |
| beuno | dholbach, it doesn't matter, just a new one :) | 16:46 |
| dholbach | beuno, ok, I replied | 16:48 |
| beuno | dholbach, https://oops.canonical.com/oops/?oopsid=OOPS-630af07045d743b0b05aa33723c01f21 | 16:49 |
| beuno | as you can see, the error is that the version already exists | 16:49 |
| beuno | dholbach, there is a combination of steps that leaves people in this state, we are addressing them so they don't happen again | 16:50 |
| dholbach | awesome, thanks | 16:50 |
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| popey | thanks beuno | 17:17 |
| om26er | salem_, ping | 17:38 |
| salem_ | om26er, pong | 17:38 |
| om26er | salem_, if I call to my ubuntu phone and I don't see any notification on the screen which package to blame | 17:39 |
| salem_ | om26er, can you hear the ringtone? | 17:39 |
| om26er | no notification, no sound but the phone through which I am dialing says that the call is outgoing indeed | 17:39 |
| om26er | salem_, no, neither the ringtone | 17:40 |
| salem_ | om26er, is the call accepted? or the other phone keeps ringing? | 17:40 |
| om26er | salem_, the phone keeps ringing since I don't have a way to pick it up | 17:41 |
| salem_ | om26er, ok. can you check if tp-ofono is running? | 17:41 |
| salem_ | om26er, telepathy-ofono is the process name | 17:41 |
| om26er | salem_, yes telepathy-ofono is running | 17:42 |
| salem_ | om26er, what about ofonod? | 17:42 |
| salem_ | om26er, and phone-app-approver? | 17:42 |
| om26er | salem_, should all these things be in the result of ps -ax ? | 17:43 |
| om26er | ofonod seems to be running | 17:43 |
| salem_ | om26er, yes | 17:43 |
| salem_ | om26er, sorry, it's not phone-app-approver, it telephony-service-approver | 17:43 |
| om26er | salem_, everything is running it seems | 17:44 |
| salem_ | om26er, can you run "dbus-monitor > call.log", reproduce the bug and then send me the log? | 17:45 |
| om26er | salem_, in one of the cases I noted that there was no rington or the accept/reject dialog but the screen did lighten up when I called | 17:45 |
| om26er | salem_, sure, I am going to have to be able to reproduce the bug again for that. It happened 2-3 times while we were chatting but now its not happening | 17:46 |
| om26er | I'll reboot the phone | 17:46 |
| salem_ | om26er, ok. thanks | 17:46 |
| om26er | boiko, hello | 17:57 |
| boiko | hey om26er | 17:57 |
| om26er | boiko, can you have a look at this bug please (bug 1226157) | 17:58 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1226157 in dialer-app (Ubuntu) "the 'back' button in the dialer panel should lighten when there is some number written" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1226157 | 17:58 |
| om26er | yeah, the title is not that great | 17:58 |
| boiko | om26er: so disable the backspace button when there is no text to erase, is that it? | 17:59 |
| om26er | boiko, it actually looks faded in its initial form, rather lighten it up when there is some number dialed | 18:00 |
| bzoltan | dholbach: We decided not to push it to 13.10 with an FFe, too much hustle for few weeks before T queue opens | 18:00 |
| boiko | om26er: actually that's because the default asset is gray, we need to colorize that | 18:01 |
| om26er | boiko, do you need some design for that ? aka icon etc ? | 18:01 |
| boiko | om26er: don't think so, I think we can colorize the icon in the UI, I will check that later | 18:02 |
| om26er | boiko, cool, thank you. I have another smaller bug incoming as well | 18:02 |
| om26er | :) | 18:02 |
| boiko | om26er: sure, keep them coming :) | 18:02 |
| iBelieve | popey, ping | 18:04 |
| popey | iBelieve: pong | 18:04 |
| iBelieve | popey, you mentioned in our last meeting about me helping with another app. Have you picked one that could use more help, or should I just pick one? I was thinking about implementing the visual designs for Stock Ticker that Lucas Romero Di Benedetto made. | 18:06 |
| iBelieve | popey, these designs: lucasromerodb.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/stock-ticker-v02/ | 18:06 |
| popey | iBelieve: So glad you asked! | 18:06 |
| popey | iBelieve: I have a to-do list item to contact people for exactly this reason ☻ | 18:07 |
| popey | iBelieve: we're looking for someone to do exactly what you described, if you're up for it, that would be great! | 18:07 |
| iBelieve | popey, cool, that's what I'll work on then. I love implementing awesome UI designs :) | 18:09 |
| popey | Sweet! | 18:09 |
| popey | Thanks iBelieve ! | 18:09 |
| om26er | boiko, bug 1226177 | 18:29 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1226177 in dialer-app (Ubuntu) "The 'All Contacts' text is at an odd place" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1226177 | 18:29 |
| boiko | om26er: odd place you mean it is under the header? | 18:30 |
| om26er | boiko, yes under the header is fine but, there are few padding problems and I don't think that place is good for any sub title | 18:31 |
| om26er | because there is no enough space. | 18:31 |
| om26er | needs design ? | 18:31 |
| boiko | om26er: it is not a subtitle, that's the problem :) | 18:31 |
| boiko | om26er: this is to separate the Favourites from all the other contacts | 18:31 |
| om26er | boiko, I suggested a long term solution in the bug report to use something we do in unity8 | 18:31 |
| boiko | om26er: try running the address-book-app | 18:31 |
| om26er | boiko, yeah, looks fine in the address book app | 18:32 |
| om26er | boiko, see my attached screenshot in the above bug | 18:32 |
| boiko | om26er: so, this design is not even final yet, we are not sure what the tabs will look like in the dialer app | 18:32 |
| boiko | om26er: the bug here is that the listview is appearing under the header when you first start it, if you scroll it down you can see what the correct position is | 18:33 |
| boiko | I think there is a bug reported for that | 18:33 |
| om26er | boiko, yeah, that sounds like the bug | 18:33 |
| boiko | om26er: anyway, I will take the bug a look tomorrow probably | 18:36 |
| om26er | boiko, you are in the bug fixing mode, right ? (or is there still something coming ?) | 18:36 |
| boiko | om26er: there are still some things coming | 18:37 |
| om26er | ugh :/ | 18:37 |
| boiko | om26er: mostly changes to the history-service though | 18:38 |
| om26er | boiko, I'll keep the bugs coming for the next 4 weeks, but i'll make sure to bug you once a day instead of bugging for each bug separately | 18:38 |
| boiko | om26er: haha, that's fine :) | 18:38 |
| boiko | om26er: once we get to finish the missing bits the focus will be only on bugs, so then you can ping me for each and every bug you find :) | 18:39 |
| om26er | boiko, ok cool. dialer and messaging are on my plate to pursue so we'll be talking much | 18:39 |
| boiko | salem_: ^ | 18:41 |
| boiko | om26er: that's good to hear :) | 18:41 |
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| AskUbuntu | How to make ubuntu realize application type? | http://askubuntu.com/q/346419 | 21:24 |
| om26er | salem_, this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6116765/ | 21:30 |
| om26er | dbus-monitor > dial.log was running when this problem happened this time | 21:30 |
| om26er | logs at the very end must be of use | 21:30 |
| salem_ | om26er, interesting. nothing is wrong here. perhaps telephony-service-approver is stuck | 21:32 |
| salem_ | om26er, can you try killing it and calling the phone again? | 21:33 |
| om26er | salem_, I have found a way to reproduce as well, I just keep trying multiple times and during one of the times the problem happens | 21:33 |
| salem_ | om26er, ah, I think this is a known bug. if you try again some seconds later, does the notification appear? | 21:34 |
| om26er | salem_, I killed telephony-service-approver and the problem is still there | 21:35 |
| om26er | salem_, it does not appear at all even after a few seconds as you say | 21:35 |
| salem_ | om26er, ok, but was it relaunched once you made another call? | 21:35 |
| om26er | salem_, yes, it seems to have relaunched | 21:36 |
| om26er | salem_, also the screen does turn on, just there is no sound or notification | 21:36 |
| salem_ | om26er, what if you send a text? | 21:36 |
| om26er | salem_, there is no sms notification as well during that problem | 21:39 |
| salem_ | om26er, no sound as well? | 21:39 |
| om26er | salem_, yep, no sound | 21:39 |
| salem_ | om26er, can you try playing a video from video lens and check if you have sound? | 21:40 |
| om26er | salem_, I tested in the settings app and there is no sound in there during the time of problem, | 21:42 |
| salem_ | om26er, ok. can you log a bug about it? | 21:47 |
| om26er | salem_, sure | 21:51 |
| om26er | salem_, my phone automatically calls the other phone sometimes | 21:51 |
| om26er | after the above issue happens | 21:51 |
| salem_ | om26er, that's weird. do you have dialer-app open? | 21:59 |
| om26er | salem_, no, not necessarily | 21:59 |
| salem_ | om26er, ok. please, provide all this information in your bug report. | 22:00 |
| om26er | salem_, which package should I report the bug for ? | 22:00 |
| om26er | or the launchpad project | 22:01 |
| salem_ | om26er, telephony-service | 22:02 |
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