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dholbachgood morning06:49
dholbachhey... can you guys please help with the sponsoring queue?07:38
dholbachwe're at 95 requests!07:39
Noskcajdholbach, I'm not sure if that's an achievement or a fail07:46
Noskcajbdrung, I've made the audacity branch, can you take a look? It should be in your emails07:47
dholbachNoskcaj, a bit of both ;-)07:49
lifelessasd08:22
lifelessbah, sorry.08:22
rbasakdholbach: how can I politely remove https://code.launchpad.net/~jackweirdy/vidalia/680192/+merge/178623 from the sponsorship queue?08:40
rbasak(I'm not sure how MPs map into the queue)08:40
infinityrbasak: Just reject the MP.08:41
rbasakinfinity: I don't see any obvious way to do that. Am I missing some permission somewhere?08:42
rbasakI can only change status to Needs review, Merged, or Work in progress.08:42
infinityPossibly.  The 'status' field is editable if you have the right permissions on the branch.08:42
infinityI'll reject it for you.08:42
rbasakThanks08:42
dholbachrbasak, yes, if in doubt, just ask in here and somebody will do it for you08:46
dholbachI think it's TB members and LP admins08:46
rbasakI see. Thanks!08:46
dholbachI'm not too happy with the setup myself and don't know the reasons for it, but on the other hand, there's always somebody around08:47
dholbachinfinity, happy birthday! :)08:47
infinitydholbach: Nope, core-dev was added to the group a while back.08:47
dholbachah, awesome!08:47
infinity(So please, stop bugging TB for it)08:47
infinityrbasak: ^08:47
rbasakThanks.08:48
* rbasak should do more core work and apply for core dev.08:48
infinityYes, you should.08:48
dholbachyeehaw08:48
infinityYou're one of the few left on my "would gladly sponsor for core dev" short list.08:48
rbasakThanks :)08:48
NoskcajShould FFe syncs have the sponsors team unsubscribed till the FFe is granted?09:11
iulianNoskcaj: Yes because it wouldn't make sense to have the sponsors subscribed if there's nothing to sponsor.09:14
Noskcajiulian, ok, thanks09:14
asacanyone knows if https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-patches was used at some point? it says HIGH VOLUME, but doesnt have an archive09:43
asacor is archiving intentional disabled?09:43
cjwatsonasac: Yes, archiving is intentionally disabled, but mails still go out09:44
cjwatsonmerge-o-matic sends mails there09:44
cjwatsonI know it still works because occasionally I get bounces :-)09:45
asaccjwatson: ok... so its not an automatic debdiff service :)? had hoped for that09:45
asac(for everyhting)09:46
asacjust mom09:46
cjwatsonYou may be unaware of everything that MoM does ...09:46
cjwatsonIt does more than just merges with respect to Debian09:46
asacok... dont need the details now09:47
cjwatsonThe code predates me being involved in MoM, but I believe that it announces all changes in Ubuntu09:47
asacinteresting. i guess i might just try to subscribe :)09:48
cjwatsonWell, possibly not all; it probably won't mention syncs09:48
cjwatsonI tend to think that saucy-changes is a more useful list for this kind of thing, since you can check debdiffs for the tiny fraction that you actually care about09:48
ogra_++09:49
cjwatsonI think in the case of a merge from Debian, the patch on ubuntu-patches will only contain the new debdiff versus the base version in Debian09:49
cjwatsonBut, ubuntu-patches basically is an automatic debdiff service, albeit probably a limited one in some ways09:50
* cjwatson tries to summon Monday morning brainpower to work on proposed-migration for the :any stuff09:52
* ogra_ could only offer some of his jetlag 09:53
NoskcajIs it worth converting debdiffs to branches if i lack the power to upload them?09:55
cjwatsonNo09:55
cjwatsonDebdiffs are just as easy to apply09:55
Noskcajok09:55
NoskcajCan someone please explain why http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports links the oneric bug tracker?09:57
smartboyhwdholbach, how do I tell in the sponsorship queue which packages can I sponsor? (It's nice to include that as a feature in the report)10:14
dholbachsmartboyhw, that'd be very hard to implement - right now it's a static page only10:14
smartboyhwdholbach, OK10:15
smartboyhwhmm, it's easy somehow10:16
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pittiGood morning12:15
mdeslaur@pilot in12:15
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* dholbach hugs mdeslaur12:51
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nickguletskiiHi, I would like to ask if there is a change of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lm-sensors/+bug/987714 getting fixed in precise? This bug breaks multiarch support for no good reason (an empty file "is not in sync with other instances of the same package" somehow)13:21
ubottuUbuntu bug 987714 in lm-sensors (Ubuntu) "package libsensors4 1:3.3.1-2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: conffile './etc/sensors.d/.placeholder' is not in sync with other instances of the same package" [Low,Triaged]13:21
nickguletskiichance*13:22
cjwatsonnickguletskii: Hm, dpkg bug I think.  Somebody should confirm in a chroot environment whether quantal's dpkg behaves the same way; I suspect it doesn't.13:34
nickguletskiicjwatson: It seems that the quantal version of libsensors4 doesn't have that file, so I can't replicate.13:36
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nickguletskiiheh, weird, it does13:37
cjwatsonnickguletskii: You don't have to replicate with the quantal version of libsensors413:38
cjwatsonYou can probably just take a precise chroot and manually upgrade it to quantal's dpkg13:38
nickguletskiicjwatson: My bad, it does have .placeholder in .install, it just doesn't exist in the filesystem13:38
nickguletskiicjwatson: You are right, this is probably a dpkg bug...13:38
OrokuSaki@hallyn Hi! I was wondering if you could help me out with lxc 1.0 sometime.. its not working for me.. I am using 0.9X instead.. when I run lxc-info -n android, I don't have a pid. Kernel is 2.6.35.. Does this perhaps have to do with /sys/fs/pstore? My kernel does not have pstore.. I may try to backport it13:39
udevbotError: "hallyn" is not a valid command.13:39
OrokuSakiOf couse, I don't have fanotify or apparmor either13:40
* cjwatson tries a test upgrade13:41
cjwatson(needs quantal's liblzma5 too)13:41
cjwatsonnickguletskii: Yep, quantal's dpkg is fine, so a backport *should* be possible; not trivial since the code was rearranged somewhat13:43
chrisccoulsoni've just rebooted my laptop, and it now only boots to a grub prompt.  anyone like to help me out here? :)13:43
cjwatsonchrisccoulson: https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell13:43
chrisccoulsoncjwatson, thanks13:44
cjwatsonchrisccoulson: BIOS or UEFI?13:44
nickguletskiicjwatson: so it's very unlikely that it will happen?13:44
cjwatsonnickguletskii: I didn't say that :-)13:44
chrisccoulsoncjwatson, UEFI13:45
cjwatsonchrisccoulson: With or without secure boot?13:45
chrisccoulsoncjwatson, it's with secure boot13:46
cjwatsonchrisccoulson: Just a theory but might you perhaps have saucy-proposed enabled, upgraded grub2 last Wednesday, and didn't upgrade between then and rebooting?13:46
nickguletskiicjwatson: I can't find a relevant bug (I can only find the .placeholder problem in libsensors4)... Should I ask in #ubuntu-bugs about filling out a bug report?13:46
cjwatsonnickguletskii: Er, you don't need a new bug - I reassigned this one to dpkg13:47
chrisccoulsoncjwatson, yeah, that's entirely possible13:47
cjwatsonchrisccoulson: *ritual mockery for having saucy-proposed enabled*13:47
chrisccoulsonheh13:47
cjwatsonchrisccoulson: "configfile /EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg"13:47
cjwatsonthen get back into a real system and upgrade to a grub version actually intended for human consumption13:47
cjwatsonand disable saucy-proposed :)13:48
nickguletskiicjwatson: thank you very much :)13:48
chrisccoulsoncjwatson, aha, that looks better. Thanks!13:48
* chrisccoulson owes cjwatson a beer13:48
cjwatsonYou can repay me by answering my question from last week :-)13:49
cjwatson11:41 <cjwatson> chrisccoulson: firefox-testsuite needs to be updated to depend on fonts-liberation, not ttf-liberation - I think I have commit access but which branch(es) do I need to commit to?13:49
nickguletskiibye :)13:49
chrisccoulsoncjwatson, ah, i think i've committed that to trunk13:49
cjwatsonOh good, thanks13:49
chrisccoulsoni was going to upload it when i do the firefox 24 upload later13:50
cjwatsonYeah, no desperate rush, I just didn't want it to drift past release13:50
chrisccoulsonsure, no problem13:50
chrisccoulsonright, switching back to my proper machine now :)13:50
smoserhm..13:52
smoser$ sudo ifquery --list --allow auto13:52
smoser[sudo] password for smoser:13:52
smoserifquery: failed to lock lockfile /run/network/.ifstate.lock: Bad file descriptor13:52
smoserthat does'nt look right. expecially since13:52
smoser /etc/network/if-up.d/upstart13:52
smoseruses it.13:52
smoserit seems /run/network/.ifstate.lock was created around the time my system booted.13:53
smoserslangasek, ^ you have any explanation that make that just my system ?13:53
hallyn_OrokuSaki: (replied to the pm)14:13
smoserbug 122606714:13
ubottubug 1226067 in ifupdown (Ubuntu) "ifquery fails with bad file descriptor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122606714:13
hallyn_OrokuSaki: oh, looks like ppa version hasn't been built since i pushed the fix to git, lemme make sure14:14
hallyn_no, it hasn't.  starting a build now14:15
OrokuSakiSweet! hallyn! thanks! =)14:37
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slangaseksmoser: nothing specifically... if the lock file is hanging around, that seems like an 'ifup' call may have crashed?15:13
smoserslangasek, maybe. reproduces in stock cloud iamge.15:13
smoserslangasek, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/122606715:20
ubottuUbuntu bug 1226067 in ifupdown (Ubuntu) "ifquery fails with bad file descriptor" [Medium,New]15:20
smosernothing really sticks out at me in the system.15:20
lamontif saucy complains that gnome-control-center-unity is not part of ubuntu, is that me, or saucy?15:28
smoserarges, ping.15:29
argessmoser: hi15:30
smoserplease see bug 116049015:30
argesyes15:30
ubottubug 1160490 in ifupdown (Ubuntu Raring) "race condition updating statefile" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116049015:30
argessmoser: ok i see it15:31
argessmoser: as an experiment can you test 0.7.44 from debian unstable? and see if it has the same issue?15:38
gQuigsI was wondering if all the desktop related lucid bugs on here: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html could just be closed15:43
gQuigs  for example: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome, gnome-power-manager and moon (moonlight)15:43
gQuigsI was told I would need someone on the SRU team to get close them out15:43
albertsmdeslaur: Hi! Can you look at fix for nautilus - https://code.launchpad.net/~albertsmuktupavels/nautilus/white-screen-fix/+merge/18023115:43
* mdeslaur looks15:46
smoserarges, well, 0.7.44-0ubuntu2 *does* have it (saucy)15:48
smoseri can quick try with 0.7.44 from debian though15:48
argessmoser: actually n/m, looking at the usptream changes15:48
smoserarges, k. fwiw, reproduce was just 'boot a cloud image'15:49
smoser(also i see this on my laptop though)15:49
argessmoser: yea setting it up now and debugging15:49
mdeslauralberts: sorry, I don't have enough nautilus knowledge to be able to understand the impact of that fix. Perhaps you could get someone from the desktop team to approve it?15:55
albertsmdeslaur: how to do that?15:58
argessmoser: found a patch that fixes it15:58
argeshttp://anonscm.debian.org/hg/collab-maint/ifupdown/rev/fb3055c2c4f015:58
argessmoser: whats teh best way to approach this? create new debdiffs for the regression?15:59
smoserfor raring, i think you just upload a new package into -proposed.16:00
smoserthat has a new package version > propposed version16:00
albertsmdeslaur: can you look also at this - https://code.launchpad.net/~albertsmuktupavels/ubuntu-themes/restore-space-between-applications-and-places-in-gnome-panel-raring/+merge/178242. It is simple fix which already is included in saucy, but I think it should be included in raring too.16:00
mdeslauralberts: for the nautilus issue, perhaps ask seb128 in #ubuntu-desktop about it?16:01
argessmoser: ack. i'm on it16:01
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albertsmdeslaur: ok16:01
gQuigshow about SRUs from 11.10?  Can they just be closed? : see bug 85350716:04
ubottubug 853507 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[SRU]pcmanfm crashed with SIGSEGV in fm_nav_history_get_cur()" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85350716:04
smoserarges, but i think first thing is fix in saucy. i dont think SRU team will move that to -updates as athe bug is right now.16:06
argessmoser: will do saucy first16:06
slangaseksmoser, arges: if you want the SRU team to know not to copy the package to -updates, you'd better set the verification-failed tags...16:15
smoserdone16:17
argesslangasek: smoser: so i found the fix for the regression. how should i handle this? submit a new debdiff with both patches (the one that fixes the race and the fix for teh regression?)16:19
slangasekarges: submit an incremental patch against the packages currently in saucy + -proposed16:19
argesslangasek: ok this is in bug 122606716:19
ubottubug 1226067 in ifupdown (Ubuntu) "ifquery fails with bad file descriptor" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122606716:19
slangasekyep16:20
argesthis might be a good testcase to add to ifupdown16:22
ari-tczewampelbein_: can we forward this one to Debian? or it's Ubuntu-specific? (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synfig/0.64.0-1ubuntu2)16:24
ampelbein_ari-tczew: As far as I can tell, debian doesn't have multiarched boost yet.16:25
ampelbein_Or has it? I didn't check for some time.16:26
ari-tczewampelbein_: I don't know, as well.16:27
ampelbein_ari-tczew: So, if Debian doesn't have it yet, the patch would be very wrong to send to debian.16:28
ari-tczewsure16:29
argesslangasek: ok. so bug 1226067 has the patches for P/Q/R as well (since they are affected.)16:43
ubottubug 1226067 in ifupdown (Ubuntu) "ifquery fails with bad file descriptor" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122606716:43
utlemminganyone around to help debug 13.04 to 13.10 device permission issuses?17:39
utlemmingafter upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10 I lost the ability to manage USB disks, use printers, audio, webcam and networking17:39
utlemmingpretty much discovered that 13.04 to 13.10 makes my laptop largely unusable17:39
utlemmingI was able to fix audio and webcam, but everything else is fubar'd17:40
utlemmingI am really thinking of reverting back to 13.0417:40
smoserarges, i'll upload to saucy "right now" unless someone else is doing that.17:48
argessmoser: cool., nobody else is sponsoring afaik17:56
dobeypitti, jibel: hey. i uploaded an ubuntuone-credentials last week, and for some weird reason, the autopkgtest run failed, but i got no e-mail about it failing. and the failure makes no sense to me. :(18:22
dobeyhas uscan or something gone weird recently? i just did a bzr merge-upstream on a branch, and ".bz2" has been appended to the version number18:33
Laneydobey: isn't it the missing make check target?18:34
dobeyLaney: that's what the error says, but given the exact same tests ran fine previously, and that the tests require a built tree and everything, i find it hard to believe that is a valid error. did adt-run do something to change to a different working directory without an unbuilt tree, to run the tests, recently?18:35
dobeyand that the only change in that upload was to add a dep in debian/control…18:36
Laney  * adt-run: Fail tests if they exit with nonzero if "allow-stderr"18:37
Laney    restriction is set. Thanks Robie Basak! (LP: #1210503)18:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1210503 in autopkgtest (Ubuntu) ""allow-stderr" tests that produce stderr output always pass" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121050318:37
Laneyprobably that18:37
LaneyI guess it erroneously used to pass18:38
dobeyoh, ugh18:39
dobeyLaney: of course, that still doesn't explain why I was never notified about the failure when it did start happening. :)18:43
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dobeyLaney: anyway, any idea about the ".bz2" being appended to the version when i do merge-upstream?18:43
LaneyNo idea18:43
Laneyhave a look at uscan --verbose --report {,--debug}18:44
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dobeywell, that verifies that it's apparently uscan doing it :-/18:50
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