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| kgunn | didrocks: can we make an attempt at libmirclient3 again ? we will need this for dpms | 14:00 |
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| didrocks | kgunn: we'll deliver first current Mir | 14:00 |
| didrocks | kgunn: I ask Mirv to do it for tomorrow | 14:01 |
| didrocks | then, we can merge your transition, but your team has to handle it | 14:01 |
| kgunn | didrocks: so, handle it means...we send anounce on ubuntu-devel, we ping you (or someone like you), we place it on the ask sheet | 14:03 |
| kgunn | didrocks: is there anything else ? | 14:03 |
| kgunn | racarr: ^ | 14:03 |
| didrocks | kgunn: and you ask your team to promptly upload the driver parts | 14:03 |
| didrocks | as you break ABI, everything that deps on libmirclient has to be rebuilt | 14:03 |
| kgunn | didrocks: yes...xmir dependency | 14:03 |
| didrocks | and some parts are not under CI | 14:03 |
| kgunn | RAOF: ^ | 14:03 |
| didrocks | so your team needs to upload that promptly to the ppa to not block everything | 14:03 |
| didrocks | hence the "we need to coordinate" | 14:04 |
| RAOF | Yup | 14:04 |
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| smspillaz | hmm | 15:48 |
| smspillaz | how does one get the boost libs to appear in /usr/lib like the mir makefiles seem to expect | 15:49 |
| smspillaz | they're installed in the arch-prefixed directories | 15:49 |
| smspillaz | (symlinking doesnt count) | 15:49 |
| kgunn | Mirv: hey was going to ask didrocks...but someone was noticing there is no saucy proposed (i haven't checked this) | 15:53 |
| kgunn | Mirv: we were discussing the "ask" process...i indicated, trunk will still go to proposed | 15:53 |
| kgunn | but won't be promoted to archive until its been approved via the ask process | 15:53 |
| kgunn | sil2100: ^ can you see what i was saying to Mirv .... he might be mising in action | 16:24 |
| kgunn | sil2100: there should be proposed with latest trunk from Mir right ? | 16:24 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: I think he's long gone, since he's EOD since 3 hours already | 16:24 |
| sil2100 | But looking | 16:24 |
| sil2100 | hmmm, no, I don't think it's like that | 16:25 |
| sil2100 | We're running releases of stacks manually now, so even daily-build doesn't have latest Mir | 16:25 |
| sil2100 | We'll be trying to release new Mir around tomorrow | 16:25 |
| kgunn | sil2100: ug...so....to make sure i get it :) there will be a daily-build based on mir trunk latest | 16:31 |
| kgunn | ? | 16:31 |
| kgunn | which will actually be going thru testing...(per what didrocks indicated) | 16:31 |
| kgunn | sil2100: just to let you know we are here in lexington at a mir sprint....so we're going to be pushing quite a bit of bug fixes thru | 16:32 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: we'll probably have a detailed talk about Mir tomorrow in the UTC morning, but the deal is - we're spinning releases manually (not automatically every 4 hours) | 16:36 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: so, essentially, there won't be a new Mir built in daily-build every 4 hours | 16:36 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: but whenever asac and didrocks decide that we will be testing a new Mir for the image, we'll be spinning manually a release of Mir which will land into daily-build | 16:37 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: go through our testing | 16:38 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: and if all is green we will release it to -proposed | 16:38 |
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| kgunn | sil2100: thank you...i realize you are the messenger so i won't shoot :)...but i am a little worried | 16:41 |
| kgunn | this might cause us a bit of slow down...at least a little concerned we're not getting build/integration feedback | 16:42 |
| kgunn | sil2100: ...any chance someone could help launch a manual build for latest trunk eod our time in US ?? | 16:42 |
| kgunn | we have some key things we want in today | 16:42 |
| smspillaz | is there some sort of EGL_MIR_PLATFORM #define ? | 16:43 |
| smspillaz | so that I get the right typedefs | 16:43 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: hmmm | 16:43 |
| kgunn | sil2100: even now...we're 5 days diff from what's in archive to whats in trunk | 16:43 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: I personally doubt it, as asac is the person that needs to say 'OK!' when doing any building | 16:43 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: since we want to release Mir tomorrow | 16:44 |
| sil2100 | Not sure if he would give a green light for building things today ;p But maybe? | 16:44 |
| kgunn | sil2100: thanks i'll ask | 16:44 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: it's best to poke asac as he's the guy in charge | 16:44 |
| kgunn | asac: ^ we're in the midst of mir sprint in lexington (we traded places) | 16:44 |
| kgunn | asac: i understand ur in manual build mode....any chance someone could kick us a manual build eod US time ? | 16:45 |
| kgunn | ...we are hoping to have some key things lined up for merging/landing into archive today | 16:45 |
| kgunn | and i was just pointing out...we're 5 days old in archive vs trunk | 16:45 |
| asac | kgunn: so we work on a unity update that cannot be done with an updated mir | 16:51 |
| asac | kgunn: from what i understand, one thing that would be soo much easier if you guys would commit to maintain an abi/api properly. | 16:51 |
| kgunn | asac: we are committed to that | 16:52 |
| kgunn | asac: already discussed with didrocks as well | 16:52 |
| kgunn | asac: and we do need to bump the api | 16:53 |
| kgunn | asac: afaik that means we will need to land the corresponding xmir changes with it | 16:53 |
| asac | kgunn: its also libmirserver | 16:53 |
| asac | that one seems to be even more of a mess | 16:53 |
| kgunn | asac: but....it will require a full rebuild of the stack | 16:53 |
| asac | you say you will maintain that ? | 16:53 |
| asac | kgunn: at the moment we have to rebuild the full stack before landing | 16:54 |
| kgunn | asac: yes | 16:54 |
| asac | kgunn: with proper versioning we can do that step by step (e.g. first land mir, then update the rest of the stack in a second shot) | 16:54 |
| kgunn | asac: yes, i understand you have to rebuild the whole stack | 16:54 |
| asac | sil2100: so from what i understand we have a daily-release | 16:55 |
| kgunn | asac: yes...that's the plan, we have libmirserver3 in waiting, we are making sure this afternoon our changes on the xmir side correspond | 16:55 |
| asac | and a daily-release-next ppa | 16:55 |
| asac | correct? | 16:55 |
| kgunn | asac: other mir clients simply need to rebuild (they don't use the new method) | 16:55 |
| asac | sil2100: you think we could pipe kgunn into whatever we dont use right now? | 16:55 |
| sil2100 | kgunn, asac: we can use the -next PPA I guess... | 16:56 |
| kgunn | asac: is there anyone in late U.S. time that could help here ? (realizing poor sil2100 wants to go to sleep sometime) | 16:56 |
| asac | kgunn: kenvandine i guess | 16:56 |
| kgunn | asac: ah...thanks | 16:56 |
| asac | kgunn: dont you have a ppa you used in the past? | 16:56 |
| asac | for the mir preview images? | 16:57 |
| asac | etc.? | 16:57 |
| asac | kgunn: and cyphermox as well | 16:57 |
| asac | he knows the system pretty good | 16:57 |
| kgunn | asac: we're shooting for archive...we can test all we want off trunk, but what I do want is the integration test result from being on a current desktop/touch image | 16:57 |
| kgunn | does that make sense ? | 16:58 |
| asac | kgunn: i am not sure :) | 16:58 |
| kgunn | asac: so olli_ is going to murder me if we aren't default xmir on desktop by thursday... | 16:58 |
| asac | ok... that i understand :) | 16:59 |
| sil2100 | ;) | 16:59 |
| asac | kgunn: everything on desktop you can just get in without being coordinated | 16:59 |
| ogra_ | asac, the question is, will you prevent it | 16:59 |
| ogra_ | :) | 16:59 |
| asac | if it doesnt touch touch, i dont care | 16:59 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: I can propose a switch so that the new Mir stuff is going to land to the daily-build-next PPA, but you'll have to poke kenvandine or cyphermox to get the releases rolling anyway | 16:59 |
| kgunn | asac: mir is the same component for both | 17:00 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: there's also the problem of needing a rebuild of unity8 and platform-api... | 17:00 |
| kgunn | sil2100: that's awesome....thanks... and we have greyback & Saviq for any unity8 issues | 17:00 |
| kgunn | RAOF: racarr ^ so i figure if we can square dpms away this afternoon...we can get a daily build going that we can put on all the systems here in lex | 17:01 |
| kgunn | asac: reading my own scrollback...just to make sure, mir is obviously a touch & desktop component...so when we make changes it needs to happen in both (esp in the case of libmirclient3...we were bumping for desktop, but obviously touch components will need to accomodate) | 17:15 |
| kgunn | racarr: libmirclient relevant touch components are unity-mir & platform-api ? right? | 17:16 |
| asac | kgunn: so unity mir fixes are scheduled tomororow. having you guys ramp up in the -next ppa is probably right | 17:21 |
| asac | you guys can then test and work with cypher and ken on getting udpates intot he ppa so we can release tomorrow morning the next shot | 17:22 |
| asac | kgunn: but my understanding is that if you pick up the libmirclient bump you also need new drivers etc. | 17:22 |
| asac | sil2100: is that on your radar? | 17:22 |
| kgunn | asac: right....only Xmir driver (which is RAOF 's and he is here) will be new...it uses the additional methods, but all other mir clients only need to be rebuilt | 17:25 |
| kgunn | as the mir clients (other than xmir) don't use the new api | 17:25 |
| eleni | RAOF, https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/mir/mir.1226144 | 17:57 |
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| olli_ | asac, we need quick iterations to land stuff in time fro 9/19 | 18:08 |
| kgunn | sil2100: just to make sure i'm not crazy...is the autobuilding off for both desktop and touch ? or just touch ? | 18:09 |
| olli_ | can't afford to block on someone manually approving it, e.g. during the night shifts the team might be pulling here | 18:09 |
| olli_ | we need to have builds available when needed | 18:09 |
| asac | olli_: you have a ppa | 18:11 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: define 'autobuilding' ;) | 18:11 |
| asac | olli_: you can stage stuff there now | 18:11 |
| asac | olli_: and kenvandine and cyphermox can help you getting updates in there | 18:11 |
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| kgunn | sil2100: "autobuilding" as opposed to the manual building that you're doing now | 18:35 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: ah, for daily-release you mean? Since the touch images take packages which we release, so basically both desktop and touch are in manual building mode... | 18:36 |
| kgunn | sil2100: that's what i needed | 18:38 |
| alan_g | hikiko: http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/building_source_for_android.html | 20:56 |
| hikiko | alf_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1226144 | 21:35 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1226144 in Mir "switching to the "unity" (graphical) vt after exiting lightdm and mir causes a crash" [Critical,In progress] | 21:35 |
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