| InHisName | evening | 03:29 |
|---|---|---|
| JonathanD | Morning. | 10:10 |
| JonathanD | I think the rmg51 is broken. | 10:10 |
| * rmg51 knows it :P | 10:36 | |
| rmg51 | it went on all night | 10:37 |
| rmg51 | and most of yesterday | 10:37 |
| * JonathanD is trying to fix an ubuntu install | 10:43 | |
| JonathanD | Got the wifi fixed, now I'm working on vid drivers. | 10:43 |
| JonathanD | The nvidia drivers left me with a black screen after boot. | 10:44 |
| JonathanD | I picked up a latitude C840 over the weekend. | 10:46 |
| JonathanD | I'm not having much luck with the nvidia | 10:53 |
| JonathanD | blarg | 11:05 |
| JonathanD | I don't think the nvidia driver is going to work. | 11:06 |
| JonathanD | now it's stuck in 16 color. | 11:20 |
| rmg51 | and I'm stuck in a loop | 11:21 |
| rmg51 | freenode is broken | 11:21 |
| rmg51 | at least for me | 11:22 |
| JonathanD | works here :P | 11:22 |
| rmg51 | time for work | 11:22 |
| JonathanD | Gonna try xubuntu. | 11:34 |
| JonathanD | Maybe that'll work better. | 11:34 |
| * Maple__ grumbles | 11:36 | |
| Maple__ | Still distro-hopping. | 11:36 |
| * Maple__ has pluses for xubuntu | 11:36 | |
| Maple__ | ^ stayed with it for two weeks, longest of any distro | 11:37 |
| Maple__ | kind of annoying when you only have one flash drive though | 11:37 |
| Maple__ | to put all your work in a tarball in google drive repeatedly | 11:37 |
| teddy-dbear | Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else | 12:07 |
| JonathanD | hi teddy-dbear | 13:07 |
| teddy-dbear | hi JonathanD | 13:07 |
| JonathanD | Morning. | 13:07 |
| JonathanD | downloading xubuntu now. | 13:07 |
| JonathanD | Hopefully this'll work better :) | 13:08 |
| JonathanD | the darn alt cd isn't working either :/ | 13:47 |
| JonathanD | ah, now it is. | 13:49 |
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| waltman | So $friend just emailed me asking for advice on a new laptop. I tried to sell him on the Macbook Air, but I think he's looking for something linuxier. | 14:55 |
| waltman | he's a professor and he reluctantly needs some way to run Word to work with collaborators | 14:56 |
| waltman | I may be asking for laptop advice here soon :) | 14:57 |
| JonathanD | Thinkpad. | 14:57 |
| waltman | does lenovo make them these days? | 14:58 |
| JonathanD | Yes. | 14:58 |
| JonathanD | Build quality on "thinkpad" branded units is still quite good. | 14:58 |
| pleia2 | I love my work laptop http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/elite-products/products.html#books | 14:58 |
| pleia2 | have the Folio 9470m | 14:59 |
| JonathanD | pleia2: I just raided one of your old dells for parts for Josh's laptop last night :P | 14:59 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 14:59 |
| pleia2 | glad they're still giving :) | 14:59 |
| JonathanD | I needed an IDE drive. | 14:59 |
| JonathanD | I actually just finished getting xubuntu all happy on it. | 15:00 |
| JonathanD | He's getting it tonight. | 15:00 |
| pleia2 | \o/ | 15:00 |
| waltman | If I wanted to get a lenovo, I could get a great deal through Drexel | 15:00 |
| MutantTurkey | nope | 15:00 |
| MutantTurkey | we at least | 15:00 |
| pleia2 | my other laptop is an ultra cheap (sub $300) one, I like that too :) | 15:00 |
| MutantTurkey | for the last year or so the link's been broken | 15:00 |
| MutantTurkey | i check often @waltman | 15:00 |
| waltman | MutantTurkey: I'm in there right now | 15:01 |
| MutantTurkey | really? well i am glad they fixed it | 15:01 |
| MutantTurkey | the lenovo website is a.... pos | 15:01 |
| MutantTurkey | it's just terrible | 15:01 |
| pleia2 | one == lenovo | 15:01 |
| waltman | Do all lenovos have that silly mouse nub thingie? | 15:01 |
| pleia2 | no | 15:01 |
| pleia2 | only the thinkpads afaik | 15:01 |
| JonathanD | the ideapads do not. | 15:02 |
| waltman | duh. I meant thinkpad. | 15:02 |
| MutantTurkey | waltman: silly? | 15:02 |
| waltman | MutantTurkey: yes, silly | 15:02 |
| MutantTurkey | does the next X1 have it still? or the Edge? | 15:02 |
| pleia2 | I think the x1 does | 15:02 |
| MutantTurkey | waltman: don't knock it till ya try it | 15:02 |
| pleia2 | the internet should know! | 15:02 |
| waltman | I have. | 15:02 |
| JonathanD | The x1 does | 15:02 |
| MutantTurkey | cewl | 15:02 |
| JonathanD | Pretty sure, anyway. | 15:02 |
| MutantTurkey | Your branch is behind 'origin/fizzy' by 4 commits, and can be fast-forwarded. | 15:03 |
| JonathanD | Some of the x series have only a nub and no touchpad. | 15:03 |
| MutantTurkey | how do i fast-forward!! | 15:03 |
| MutantTurkey | JonathanD: the older ones right? | 15:03 |
| JonathanD | MutantTurkey: yeah. | 15:03 |
| pleia2 | waltman: are they looking for tough? sleek? light? brick? powerful? | 15:03 |
| MutantTurkey | i want the X131 or whatever the netwbook was called | 15:03 |
| JonathanD | I think all the new stuff has touchpads. | 15:03 |
| MutantTurkey | they are slick | 15:03 |
| JonathanD | I disable the touchpad, though :P | 15:03 |
| MutantTurkey | JonathanD: eek i did last week to save power | 15:03 |
| MutantTurkey | it was awful | 15:03 |
| waltman | Can I assume he'll have no trouble installing *buntu on most modern thinkpads? | 15:03 |
| MutantTurkey | i can't live without two finger scroll | 15:03 |
| MutantTurkey | waltman: yeah | 15:03 |
| MutantTurkey | make sure he gets the Intel wireless | 15:03 |
| JonathanD | one great side effect of disabling the touchpad is people stop asking to use your laptop. | 15:04 |
| MutantTurkey | and preferablly intel graphics card! | 15:04 |
| pleia2 | JonathanD: hehe | 15:04 |
| waltman | I couldn't live without the touchpad on my macbook | 15:04 |
| MutantTurkey | JonathanD: heh my dad just carries a mouse in his bag, and never even uses his nub... i don't get it | 15:04 |
| MutantTurkey | waltman: obviously... it's so mouse oriented :p | 15:04 |
| pleia2 | my lenovo is amd and it's lovely | 15:04 |
| * pleia2 shrugs | 15:04 | |
| JonathanD | The nub is the best thing ever :P | 15:04 |
| JonathanD | never leave the home row! | 15:04 |
| MutantTurkey | pleia2: sorry i meant the graphics card and or wireless | 15:04 |
| MutantTurkey | i had trouble with my wireless card | 15:04 |
| JonathanD | My thinkpad has the switchable graphics, but I never got that working under ubuntu. | 15:04 |
| pleia2 | MutantTurkey: I was talking about gfx | 15:04 |
| MutantTurkey | i think it was atheros | 15:04 |
| pleia2 | my wifi is just atheros, it's fine | 15:05 |
| MutantTurkey | yep, mine works well now | 15:05 |
| MutantTurkey | it used to die with dragonfly3, and my temple, and Montco networks, i guess something with the setups? | 15:05 |
| MutantTurkey | then if you suspend to much, you had to juts hard reboot | 15:05 |
| JonathanD | This dell I put together has a rather nice screen. | 15:05 |
| waltman | pleia2: I've already asked him most of those questions :) | 15:05 |
| MutantTurkey | but since a year or so ago... it's all smoth | 15:05 |
| MutantTurkey | waltman: and yeah, chec kout the gfx support | 15:05 |
| MutantTurkey | and avoiding switchable graphics would probably be the least hassle | 15:06 |
| waltman | If I were him I'd get something with 9-12 hours of battery life, but who knows? | 15:06 |
| pleia2 | waltman: but you haven't told us, hard to make recommendations (assuming you want them) | 15:06 |
| waltman | well, I haven't heard back from him yet! | 15:07 |
| pleia2 | ah :) | 15:07 |
| waltman | 10:57 < waltman> I may be asking for laptop advice here soon :) | 15:07 |
| MutantTurkey | go with the upgraded battery | 15:07 |
| MutantTurkey | if it's an x220, i would also get the undercarriage battery for maximum cool-ness | 15:08 |
| waltman | what's "gfx support"? | 15:08 |
| MutantTurkey | make sure you have Xorg drivers that work | 15:08 |
| MutantTurkey | i don't keep up with it,but nvidia and others have had problems in the past | 15:08 |
| MutantTurkey | so i'd just check to make sure it'll work well under linux | 15:08 |
| waltman | I'm holding off on laptop shopping until I see what the new macbook pro's look like | 15:09 |
| MutantTurkey | also - IPS screen is a must on Lenovo, and i recommend you upgrade the display as much as possible.. | 15:09 |
| MutantTurkey | I am still cringing over my non-ips 1366x768 display | 15:09 |
| waltman | I'm still happy with the 1280x800 screen on my 4 year old Macbook. | 15:15 |
| MutantTurkey | the color is probably a lot better | 15:15 |
| waltman | People with those fancy new retina displays whine about how horrible it is, but I think it's perfectly adequate | 15:15 |
| MutantTurkey | ... the color is what matters | 15:15 |
| MutantTurkey | also the angle and such | 15:16 |
| rmg51 | https://www.system76.com/ | 15:16 |
| waltman | it looks even better when I hook it up to an external monitor at 1080p | 15:16 |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8MO-XaCZ_8 | 15:16 |
| MutantTurkey | rmg51: i honestly have been hearing nothing but bad stuff about them lately | 15:16 |
| waltman | particularly after I ran OSX's calibration on it | 15:17 |
| MutantTurkey | they do have ICC color profiles for all the thinkpads btw | 15:17 |
| rmg51 | I have two of them | 15:17 |
| MutantTurkey | waltman: that link is a IPS vs non-IPS x220 comparison | 15:17 |
| MutantTurkey | rmg51: are they excellent? | 15:17 |
| MutantTurkey | there was a very negative thread on reddit recently | 15:17 |
| MutantTurkey | enough to scare me away | 15:17 |
| rmg51 | they work for me | 15:17 |
| jedijf | reddit scares me away | 15:18 |
| MutantTurkey | hehe | 15:18 |
| rmg51 | the newer ones may be different | 15:19 |
| MutantTurkey | http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1mdrwg/system76_galago_ultrapro_review_avoid/ | 15:19 |
| rmg51 | http://zareason.com/shop/home.php | 15:20 |
| jedijf | waltman: just installed ubu on cheap lenovo b3xx - everything worked - set libre office to save docx, xlsx, pptx - all good to communicate with ms world | 15:21 |
| jedijf | here was /that/ convo | 15:22 |
| jedijf | actually cheap was presumed. my daughters laptop | 15:23 |
| MutantTurkey | i don't understand why you need a linux specific laptop | 15:25 |
| MutantTurkey | since linux works well on most laptops | 15:25 |
| MutantTurkey | esp if you know what to use and what to avoid | 15:25 |
| jedijf | support the homies | 15:26 |
| MutantTurkey | i just feel more comforatable with a giant corporation's return policy, customer support and such | 15:26 |
| jedijf | zareason too | 15:26 |
| jedijf | homegirls | 15:26 |
| MutantTurkey | homepersons | 15:26 |
| MutantTurkey | they're called Police Officers | 15:27 |
| waltman | MutantTurkey: back in the day linux was quite problematic on the weird custom hardware many laptop vendors use | 15:27 |
| MutantTurkey | sure - is that still true today? I don't think so | 15:27 |
| waltman | I haven't used a linux laptop since 2004. | 15:28 |
| waltman | Back then I had to hand-edit a config file for every new wifi I encountered, and sleep never really worked at all because of a weird acpi setup I had. | 15:30 |
| MutantTurkey | and suspend required tux-on-ice | 15:31 |
| MutantTurkey | but now it is not like that | 15:31 |
| MutantTurkey | I haven't even a xorg.conf anymore! | 15:31 |
| MutantTurkey | (praise the lord for automatic detection!) | 15:31 |
| waltman | tell that to the person who was here Friday night trying to get his display to work :) | 15:36 |
| MutantTurkey | poor soul | 15:40 |
| pleia2 | he always breaks things though :) I think he was trying to do weird things with hz | 15:41 |
| waltman | Yeah, I still don't really understand why he wasn't happy with the default settings it found :) | 15:42 |
| JonathanD | So this laptop seems to work, except I can't install the nvidia drivers. | 15:45 |
| JonathanD | So he might be somewhat game-constrained. Oh well. More time for homework :P | 15:45 |
| jedijf | if you set hz just right you can pick up signals from the netherworlds | 16:22 |
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| JonathanD | This dell has a much... fluffier? keyboard than my thinkpads. | 20:23 |
| TheLordOfTime | JonathanD, which Dell? | 20:57 |
| steven_ | anyone here a graphic designer working with commercial printers? | 21:02 |
| steven_ | any suggestions, using Scribus--how to deliver files to commercial printer? | 21:07 |
| waltman | http://www.flickr.com/photos/85201403@N00/9767983294 # cuteness | 21:15 |
| rmg51 | nice waltman. you chased steven_ right out with that picture | 21:19 |
| waltman | is that all it took? | 21:20 |
| rmg51 | seems that way | 21:21 |
| rmg51 | imagine what you could do if you really tried | 21:21 |
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| JonathanD | So I got the nvidia driver working, but the image does not fill the screen. | 22:18 |
| JonathanD | It fills about 80% of it . | 22:18 |
| JonathanD | from the top-left corner down. | 22:18 |
| JonathanD | and it's missing hte top level res entry | 22:18 |
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| === scottrigby is now known as scottrigby_away | ||
| === scottrigby_away is now known as scottrigby | ||
| === scottrigby is now known as scottrigby_away | ||
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