[05:28] <Kilos> morning all
[05:29] <Kilos> konversation takes a while to show who is here and who is away
[05:29] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[05:29] <superfly> hi Kilos 
[05:34] <Kilos> is 4.1.11 the latest kde superfly ?
[05:36] <superfly> other way round. 4.11
[05:36] <Kilos> i followed a link to make kubuntu faster
[05:36] <superfly> Kilos: that's just looking for trouble
[05:36] <Kilos> major data use and everything changed
[05:37] <Kilos> i had lotsa probs, with black screen and not booting past password and so on but it seems ok at last
[05:37] <Kilos> only the blue screen i dont like
[05:38] <Kilos> but it seems a bit faster now
[05:39] <Kilos> blue background that is
[05:48] <Kilos> hi  bduk1 
[05:48] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[05:48] <mazal> More oom
[05:51] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[05:53] <Squirm> morning
[05:54] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[06:00] <Kilos> môre inetpro 
[06:03] <theblazehen> hi Kilos inetpro 
[06:03] <theblazehen> Squirm: 
[06:03] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[06:03] <Squirm> hey theblazehen 
[06:03] <Kilos> no school?
[06:03] <bduk1> Morning everyone
[06:03] <theblazehen> Kilos: free period
[06:03] <Kilos> aha
[06:04] <Kilos> arent you supposed to study in free periods
[06:04] <theblazehen> yeah. on my phone
[06:04] <theblazehen> I guess
[06:04] <Kilos> ai! you okes and these modern fones
[06:10] <Kilos> is that how peeps pass nowadays by googling for answers on fones
[06:10] <Kilos> hehe
[06:11] <theblazehen> lol not usually :p
[06:12] <theblazehen> they don't let you keep phone
[06:17] <Kilos> lol
[06:54] <Xethron> Hi Kilos 
[07:17] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:18] <Vince-0> Hi Oom Kilos 
[07:19] <Kilos> oh my , you also going with the oom now
[07:19] <Kilos> sjoe
[07:27] <Vince-0> Its the Afrikaans way
[07:29] <Kilos> hehe
[07:30] <Kilos> south african way actually
[07:30] <Kilos> we were taught anyone 10 years older than you is uncle or aunt
[07:31] <Vince-0> yep me2 and we're souties
[07:31] <Kilos> haha
[07:31] <Kilos> we were called rooinek
[07:33] <Vince-0> watched Elysium last night - they put in a thick accent on the mercenaries 
[07:35] <Vince-0> Sholto sings Jan pierewiet 
[07:36] <Vince-0> creepy
[07:45] <Kilos> lol
[07:47] <nuvolari> Maaz: is mail.google.com up?
[07:48] <Maaz> nuvolari: Yes, http://mail.google.com/ is up
[07:48] <nuvolari> Maaz: you're a liar
[07:48] <Maaz> nuvolari: What?
[07:48] <nuvolari> :P
[07:48] <nuvolari> yes
[07:48] <Kilos> haha
[07:48] <Kilos> môre nuvolari 
[07:50] <tinuva> yeah i now have a girlfriend, whose parents are originally from Brittain
[07:51] <tinuva> cant exactly call them oom or tannie, they will chase me away
[07:52] <Kilos> hahaha
[07:53] <Kilos> the english think calling them that makes them old
[07:53] <tinuva> its kinda cool though, she has this brittish accent, I am still not used to it
[07:54] <tinuva> and I am teaching her to speak afrikaans 
[07:54] <Kilos> peeps should accept that age creeps up on everyone
[07:54] <Kilos> let her watch some old afrikaans movies
[07:54] <Kilos> those jamie uys movies are good
[07:55] <Kilos> the gods must be crazy etc
[07:55] <nuvolari> môre oom Kilos 
[07:56] <Vince-0> oom nuvolari 
[07:59] <Kilos> kde 4.11 is quite lekker
[08:22] <mazal> +1 Kilos , gods must be crazy 1 is baie snaaks en nog genuine old-school humor
[08:22] <Kilos> yeah
[08:23] <Kilos> i forget the other ones
[08:23] <mazal> I watched that one again not too long ago and laughed so lekker
[08:23] <Kilos> oh ya beautiful people
[08:24] <mazal> What is the one with the talking and singing animals ? That was hilarious but can never remember the name
[08:25] <Kilos> might be beautiful people
[08:25] <Kilos> where the animals get dronk on marulas
[08:26] <mazal> Yeah !
[08:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> hello peeps
[08:33] <Vince-0> G'day
[08:38] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy min dae
[08:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> 4! :-)
[08:41] <nuvolari> oh hi oom Vince-0 
[08:41] <nuvolari> How are you?
[08:42] <nuvolari> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[08:46] <Kilos> mazal: het barry daai router gekoop
[08:46] <Kilos> ?
[08:50] <mazal> Nee oom , hy het 'n ander telkom een gekoop
[08:50] <mazal> Daai een was te duur
[08:51] <mazal> Maar die telkom een het ook als is , selfoon goete , adsl , wi-fi en ethernet
[08:51] <Kilos> mooi
[08:52] <mazal> Hy het net nie lekker ontvangs nie , en die 3g diconnect wanneer hy idle
[09:08] <Kilos> hi charl 
[09:09] <Kilos> mazal: hy sal sy pc moet stel om te ping die hele tyd 
[09:10] <Kilos> my pc disconnect van my router maar 3g bly lewendig, sal nog moet soek hoekom
[09:10] <charl> good morning
[09:10] <charl> hi Kilos 
[09:10] <charl> tried tmux yesterday but can't say i see the advantages above screen
[09:11] <charl> just has a terribly ugly lime-green bar at the bottom that screen (thankfully) doesn't have
[09:12] <Kilos> hehe i did a ppa thing that ate up 672m data then couldnt boot past password and black screens and lotsa crazy stuffs but now i got kde 4.11 running lekker
[09:13] <charl> ah kde 4.11 - glad to hear
[09:13] <charl> haven't tried that yet, is it much different from 4.10?
[09:13] <Kilos> just faster i think, i also did some disabling of stuff
[09:13] <mazal> Anybody else notice Firefox issues lately ?
[09:14] <Kilos> but it wasnt worth the trouble to get it working again
[09:14] <Kilos> mage will ask me why i didnt reinstall
[09:14] <Kilos> hehe
[09:14] <Kilos> mazal: what do you do with your browser
[09:14] <tinuva> im still using archlinux, that looks like crunchbang, really like it still
[09:15] <tinuva> dno how you guys can use kde :P
[09:15] <Kilos> i dont enjoy the xfce stuff tinuva 
[09:15] <mazal> All of a sudden I have many sites that don't work , especially drop-down boxes and forms that must be filled in. This is on 3 different pc's and installs on both 12.04 and 13.04. I know it's firefox related as chromium works on every site that don't work with firefox. Anybody know of an update that broke something in firefox ?
[09:15] <Kilos> but love kde and unity in 12.04
[09:16] <tinuva> Kilos, what xfce stuff? crunchbang uses openbox/tint2 not xfce
[09:17] <Kilos> oh i couldnt get crunchbang to connect with 3g
[09:17] <Kilos> i get mixed up with them all
[09:18] <Kilos> kde takes getting used to but quite cool once you sorta understand it
[09:18] <tinuva> maybe its because i am old school
[09:18] <tinuva> http://thor.hero.za.net/upload/archdesktop_atwork_20130905.png
[09:18] <Kilos> and the underlining function in konversation saves tons of scroll backs
[09:25] <charl> tinuva: that looks pretty elegant what you have there
[09:26] <charl> is that a custom setup on archlinux? or some standardised thing?
[09:26] <tinuva> archlinux you have to build yourself, but I got the idea after trying out Crunchbang linux
[09:27] <tinuva> I really liked how it worked and looked, but I didnt like the fact that Crunchbang is based on Debian
[09:27] <tinuva> so decided to build it on Archlinux
[09:27] <tinuva> Debian's software is usually too old for me, even though it is rock solid stable
[09:27] <tinuva> Archlinux is up to date with most software in the Linux world, which I like a lot
[09:35] <Kilos> i cant build stuff so gotta use what works
[10:12] <charl> tinuva: what panel is that at the bottom? i used to use tint2 but this looks different
[10:13] <charl> tinuva: i used to use tint2 and openbox on ubuntu but in the latest version of ubuntu it seems like openbox is broken or something
[10:14] <charl> here's an old screenshot of mine: https://github-camo.global.ssl.fastly.net/c2ad4e318dcf7d195e0adb5340e5512772837da7/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f6d4e4f44522e6a7067
[10:15] <tinuva> charl, that panel at the bottom is still tint2, I just modified the config a bit so that it can look like that
[10:15] <tinuva> ps, you should try out terminator for terminal applet :P
[10:15] <tinuva> otherwise your screen is cool
[10:16] <charl> are those terminal emulators?
[10:17] <charl> ooh my goodness, terminator is ugly
[10:19] <tinuva> lol
[10:20] <charl> i have this red bar at the top
[10:20] <charl> probably configurable but still
[10:20] <charl> what is terminal applet though?
[10:21] <tinuva> http://thor.hero.za.net/upload/Screenshot%20-%2009162013%20-%2012:20:50%20PM.png
[10:21] <tinuva> check that
[10:21] <charl> ah that looks much nicer, is that after configuration?
[10:21] <tinuva> yeah
[10:21] <charl> how do you switch between tabs
[10:21] <tinuva> well you split the panes on demand using shortcuts
[10:22] <tinuva> there is a shortcut for that too
[10:22] <tinuva> though you can use the mouse
[10:22] <charl> i don't want to use the mouse :P
[10:22] <tinuva> i just like it, cause it has tables like the gnome one, but also because you can split a tab into multiple panes
[10:22] <charl> my whole desktop has been organised in a way that i have minimal reliance on the mouse
[10:22] <charl> i never really split tabs, i just want an easy way to launch tabs and switch between them
[10:22] <tinuva> ok just check the preferances for the shortcuts, you can modify that too if you want
[10:23] <charl> ctrl+alt+n works for launching a new tab but alt+1 etc and shift+left and right arrows don't work
[10:23] <charl> checking
[10:23] <charl> i see them, the switch_to_tab options
[10:24] <charl> all disabled by default
[10:24] <charl> ah i changed the red too, although looking much better
[10:24] <tinuva> so yeah, you can just change all of it, to what you are used to, and tada
[10:25] <tinuva> but if you dont need to split panes...then you dont really need terminator
[10:25] <tinuva> thats pretty much the reason I have it
[10:25] <charl> yeah i don't care about it, i use i3 so i can tile all windows the way i want them
[10:25] <charl> using the keyboard :P
[10:26] <charl> i like that irc client you're using, hexchat
[10:26] <charl> looks better than xchat
[10:29] <tinuva> its basically xchat, but a newer version
[10:30] <tinuva> ubuntu with their slow release update, is still on the older xchat, which doesnt get updated anymore
[10:30] <tinuva> hexchat is a fork from xchat, and still gets regular updates
[10:30] <charl> i have seen many of these arch-based distro's
[10:30] <tinuva> which is one of the reasons why i like archlinux, so that i can be on newer versions of software all the time
[10:30] <charl> they also look quite good but i guess i should just start from scratch
[10:31] <tinuva> well you can do what i did
[10:31] <charl> need to make some time for this
[10:31] <charl> nah i would go for i3 (for a start) etc
[10:31] <tinuva> i started my archlinux build inside a virtualbox vm, so it took me 4 weeks to build it the way i like it, in that time i was still on crunchbang so that i could still do other work ect
[10:31] <charl> bbl need to go out to lunch
[10:31] <charl> yeah i'll do it the same
[10:31] <tinuva> 4 weeks later when my arch build was done, i migrated to that on my physical machine
[10:31] <tinuva> cheers, enjoy lunch
[10:31] <charl> first start inside a vm
[10:31] <charl> ciao
[10:33] <Kilos> wbb going to unity
[11:32] <nlsthzn> seems coming from Unity not that easy
[11:59] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:03] <theblazehen> hmm?
[12:04] <Kilos> Maaz, hmm...
[12:04] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[12:05] <theblazehen> Lol Kilos . what are you thinking?
[12:05] <Kilos> i see an i/o error on booting
[12:06] <Kilos> i/o error zram0 block so and so
[12:06] <Kilos> put other ram in but its not that
[12:06] <Kilos> the swap thing
[12:24] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:25] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, you got some time to read a link?
[12:25] <Kilos> or tinuva 
[12:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> mmm?
[12:25] <Kilos> http://shmilyxbq-compcache.googlecode.com/hg/README
[12:25] <Kilos> zram stuff
[12:26] <Kilos> never seen it before
[12:26] <Kilos> but zram.config is in the repos
[12:26] <tinuva> why do you want to use zram?
[12:27] <Kilos> i get an error in booting that says i/o error zram0
[12:28] <Kilos> about 6 lines then boot proceeds
[12:30] <Kilos> ive installed it with synaptic and it gave the error it couldnt start zram
[12:30] <Kilos> did a aptitude reinstall and it started
[12:31] <Kilos> whatever it might be
[12:56] <Kilos> tinuva, i found this about it http://slexy.org/raw/s21ZcN68Qv
[12:57] <tinuva> are you running out of memory?
[12:57] <Kilos> Maaz, seen inetpro 
[12:57] <Maaz> Kilos: inetpro was last seen 1 day, 14 hours, 42 minutes and 39 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-09-15 00:14:24 SAST], and has been online on freenode since 2013-09-11 02:56:12 SAST
[12:57] <Kilos> at times pc does go slow when opening or running stuff
[12:57] <Kilos> got 1.5g ram
[12:57] <mazal> Bye everyone , enjoy your evening
[12:57] <Kilos> cheers mazal 
[12:57] <Kilos> you too ty
[13:50] <charl> whow vmware doesn't even seem to have support for arch
[13:50] <charl> that's pretty terrible
[13:50] <charl> time to move back to virtualbox :)
[13:50] <charl> vmware was well ahead of virtualbox at the start but i feel virtualbox has done more than overtake vmware at the moment
[13:50] <charl> any thoughts?
[13:51] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[13:51] <charl> hi maiatoday 
[13:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> um
[13:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> vmware is a huge company
[13:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> i assume you are referring to vmware workstation?
[13:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> because virtualbox is the lego beach buggy to vSphere's F1 car :)
[13:57] <Kilos> hehe
[14:08] <charl> yes sorry i should have added that
[14:08] <charl> vmware workstation
[14:09] <charl> yeah vmware has all this vcloud and vsphere stuff
[14:09] <charl> at work we use that too but i don't work on that personally
[14:09] <charl> ESX with vSphere or something
[14:11] <psychicist> hi charl 
[14:12] <charl> hi psychicist 
[14:32] <charl> wb psychicist 
[14:33] <Squirm> hi hi
[14:33] <charl> hi Squirm 
[14:34] <psychicist> ty charl 
[14:34] <psychicist> hi Squirm 
[15:18] <Kilos> wbb
[15:50] <Kilos> sigh
[15:50] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[16:17] <Kilos> QA google google how to show hidden home files on kubuntu
[16:17] <QA> Kilos: I'm not feeling too well
[16:18] <Kilos> QA google how to show hidden home files on kubuntu
[16:18] <QA> Kilos: I'm not feeling too well
[16:18] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:19] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[16:19] <Squirm> hi
[16:19] <Squirm> the server I was connected to seemingly went down
[16:19]  * Squirm kicks freenode
[16:19] <Kilos> lol
[16:23] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[16:23] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[16:47] <inetpro> good morning
[16:48] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[16:48] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[16:48] <Kilos> wat ai! jy
[16:48] <inetpro> Kilos: click on the spanner in Dolphin
[16:48] <inetpro> then start reading the list of options
[16:49] <Kilos> for what now, im trying to setup QA on a host
[16:49] <inetpro> one of them says "Show Hidden Files"
[16:49] <Kilos> oh my i have it
[16:49] <Kilos> alt.
[16:50] <inetpro> why google for it when you can just RTFS
[16:50] <Kilos> i didnt know it was there man
[16:50] <Kilos> ai! ek sukkel
[16:50] <inetpro> :-)
[16:50] <inetpro> hoe gaan dit oom?
[16:50] <Kilos> hi mage
[16:51] <Kilos> goed dankie en self boetie
[16:51] <magespawn> Good evening
[16:51] <inetpro> Kilos: ons leef nog dankie
[16:51] <inetpro> hi magespawn
[16:51] <Kilos> mooi
[16:51] <inetpro> warm vandag en gister
[16:52] <Kilos> ek sal later chat, moet eers QA reg maak
[16:52] <Kilos> sy het ge burp met my
[16:52] <inetpro> ai!
[16:52] <Kilos> ya lekker
[16:52] <Kilos> maar sy burp net op kanale wat ek haar gese het om te join
[16:53] <Kilos> ek het haar net op my kanaal ingesit soos n domme
[17:01] <magespawn> Is it the meeting tonight?
[17:01] <Kilos> um
[17:02] <Kilos> 23rd
[17:02] <magespawn> No worries, my calender just beeped at me
[17:02] <Kilos> hehe
[17:04] <magespawn> I have switched my server off, i had to move stuff in the shop, busy packing everything up.
[17:13] <magespawn> Be back later
[18:17] <Kilos> wb mage
[18:17] <Kilos> ai!
[18:18] <magespawn> Back again fish are now in bed
[18:21] <Kilos> ah
[18:22] <magespawn> Kilos did you get the ibid sorted
[18:23] <Kilos> yip running lekker
[18:23] <magespawn> ?
[18:26] <Kilos> weird. when i had her join a channel once online she burped when told to google some stuff but when joining the channel on boot np
[18:26] <magespawn> Strange
[18:27] <magespawn> Did you find out what caused it?
[18:27] <Kilos> female bot thats why
[18:27] <magespawn> Lol
[18:27] <Kilos> nope just set up the ini file to join on booting
[18:27] <magespawn> You going to get yourself in trouble
[18:27] <Kilos> hehe
[18:27] <Kilos> no ladys here
[18:29] <Kilos> QA: wb
[18:29] <QA> Ya ya man I'm not the one disconnecting or crashing the pc
[18:30] <Kilos> QA:   google how to show hidden home files on kubuntu
[18:30] <QA> Kilos: That didn't seem to agree with me
[18:30] <Kilos> see
[18:32] <magespawn> Lol
[18:33] <magespawn> Maybe she just does not like to google
[18:33] <Kilos> hehe
[18:34] <magespawn> Qa coffee please
[18:34] <QA> magespawn: There isn't a pot on
[18:34] <magespawn> QA coffee
[18:34] <QA> magespawn: Huh?
[18:35] <magespawn> QA coffee please
[18:35] <QA> magespawn: There isn't a pot on
[18:36] <magespawn> Does not like to make coffee either apprently
[18:39] <Kilos> QA: coffee on
[18:39]  * QA flips the salt-timer
[18:40] <magespawn> Ahh the magic words
[18:40] <Kilos> hehe
[18:41] <magespawn> QA coffee please
[18:41] <QA> magespawn: Done
[18:43] <QA> Coffee's ready for Kilos and magespawn!
[18:44] <Kilos> QA: ty
[18:44] <QA> You're welcome Kilos
[18:47] <magespawn> QA botsnack
[18:47] <QA> :)
[18:49] <magespawn> I am off Kilos, good night
[19:17] <Kilos> i give up for tonight
[19:17] <Kilos> night all sleep tight