[00:00] <Guest65804> http://pastebin.com/b2JLeh6F  <-- apt doesnt have anything named steam....
[00:00] <Sacrelicious> Random832, negative, sdb.
[00:00] <wylde> !find steam-launcher
[00:00] <Random832> that's strange, didn't you run gparted /dev/sda? why,d it look at the others
[00:00] <wylde> odd
[00:00] <Random832> oh well, ignore it
[00:00] <kostkon> Guest65804, it's in the partner repo i think. use the software centre to install it
[00:01] <Sacrelicious> Random832, wait, i just ran it from the terminal on sda... no error message
[00:01] <Random832> ok
[00:01] <Random832> now create partitions
[00:01] <Random832> how much memory do you have, and desktop or laptop?
[00:01] <Guest65804> what's the command for that?
[00:02] <Sacrelicious> Random832, laptop, 8gb ram, assuming i need 3, /, /home, and swap?
[00:02] <Random832> if you had problems booting before, you should create a /boot partition
[00:02] <Sacrelicious> Random832, okay, using what settings?
[00:02] <Random832> the important thing is to be small at the beginning of the disk
[00:02] <kostkon> Guest65804, nvm, try the deb the with dpkg -i
[00:02] <kostkon> then*
[00:03] <Random832> you probably don't need more than 1GB, it absolutely should not be more than 8GB max
[00:03] <Random832> very start of the disk
[00:03] <chsados> any xbmc users here?
[00:03] <Random832> so 1GB or 500MB or so
[00:03] <Sacrelicious> Random832, okay, what file system, label, etc?
[00:03] <Guest65804> that's how I installed it the first time, and it only ran one time...
[00:03] <Random832> uh, just make it /boot and - ext2 should be fine for it
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> label it 'boot' if you want. ;)
[00:04] <Guest65804> no change in behavior....
[00:04] <Guest65804> this just says ' STEAM_RUNTIME is enabeld automaticaly'
[00:04] <Random832> now for swap - i got no end of crap the last time i pointed this out, but _by default settings_ I believe you cannot hibernate unless you have at least as much swap as RAM
[00:04] <Sacrelicious> ok. free space preceeding: 1 mb, new size: 1000mb, free space following (tons), align to MiB, create as: primary partition, file system: ext2, label: /boot
[00:04] <Random832> even though you don't necessarily need swap as an everyday thing if you have 8GB of ram
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> label shouldent have a / in the name ;)
[00:05] <Random832> i mixed up label and mount point
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> You really dont need a boot partion most of the timke either
[00:05] <Sacrelicious> Dr_Willis, gotcha, so just called it boot, flags are /boot ?
[00:05] <kostkon> Guest65804, https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/1135
[00:05] <tjbiddle> I have a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf - that I'm not sure where the value is coming from. I grepped for it inside /etc/resolveconf. Anywhere else I should look?
[00:05] <Random832> Dr_Willis: he mentioned he had problems booting, and this is a cheap way to rule that one out
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> Sacrelicious:  looks ok to me.
[00:05] <Random832> i had a computer a few years ago that needed one
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> i find /boot/ is onlyh needed in a few cases these days
[00:05] <Guest65804> kostkon: I saw that, but I dont have switchable graphics, just the built in ati card on my laptop
[00:05] <Sacrelicious> Random832, err, i dont have the ability to add a /boot flag to it.
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> and the biggest issue ive seen in here lately - is people filling up their /boot/
[00:06] <kostkon> Guest65804, ok
[00:06] <Random832> Sacrelicious: er, what does it say?
[00:06] <Random832> i said mount point, not flag
[00:06] <Sacrelicious> wait, got it
[00:06] <Sacrelicious> mount point? k
[00:06] <Random832> Dr_Willis: well, you just have to remember to uninstall old kernels
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> i dont think liunux really uses the boot flags ;)
[00:06] <Random832> it depends on how you install grub (or god forbid lilo)
[00:07] <Marduuk> wb wilee-nilee
[00:07] <Sacrelicious> Random832, ok, next?
[00:07] <TobeH> can someone help me please. Everytime i used the number pad on my keyboard firefox and chromium crash with no error. sometimes they crash randomly. Please help
[00:08] <Random832> swap - you should probably just make it the same amount as your ram, so 8gb
[00:08] <Sacrelicious> Random832, how do i apply a mount point?
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> Marduuk, I don't PM is all
[00:08] <Random832> wasn't it in the dialog box? i don't have gparted in front of me right now, but i think there was something like that
[00:08] <Sacrelicious> Random832, it was not, no
[00:08] <Marduuk> i have even tried a third screen sceptre x7 17" square setting the resolution to 1024x768x16
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> Marduuk, I'm not real sure on your errors to be honest.
[00:09] <Sacrelicious> Random832, there is a flag for /boot, but thats it
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> you dont apply a mountpoint in gparted. but in the installer
[00:09] <Random832> it might be something you have to do in the installer
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> you dont need to be mounting things in gparted
[00:09] <Sacrelicious> ah, got it.
[00:09] <Sacrelicious> ok so, boot partition, swap partition, whats next?
[00:09] <vlt> Hello. my alsa device I want to playback with mplayer is called "default:CARD=K6" by `aplay -L`. I tried "-ao alsa:device=default:CARD=K6" but I get "Could not parse arguments at the position indicated below:" (points to the capital "C"). I changed ":" to "=" but still the device isn't found. Any idea?
[00:09] <vlt> Or how can I make it my alsa default device?
[00:10] <Random832> some screenshots of gparted show a mount point option but i think that might be on a real system not a livecd
[00:10] <Random832> Sacrelicious: well, that's up to you
[00:10] <Sacrelicious> ok so, i just need a 3rd partition for the OS, essentially, correct?
[00:10] <Random832> some people make one big partition, some people make root, /home, and an extra one to store all their crap in
[00:10] <Sacrelicious> and something for /home
[00:10] <Sacrelicious> gotcha.
[00:11] <Sacrelicious> ok, hold up.
[00:11] <Ben64> Sacrelicious: why a /boot partition?
[00:11] <TobeH> anyone? Everytime i used the number pad on my keyboard firefox and chromium crash with no error. sometimes they crash randomly. Please help
[00:11] <Random832> do you plan to dual boot?
[00:11] <Sacrelicious> Random832, i do not, no, i just want to run ubuntu.
[00:11] <Random832> Ben64: he had trouble getting it to boot before and it's an easy way to rule out one possible cause
[00:11] <Sacrelicious> Random832, but I'll save some free space if I need to
[00:11] <Ben64> /boot partitions just end up causing problems
[00:11] <Random832> Ben64: i had a computer just a few years ago that wouldn't boot without one
[00:12] <Sacrelicious> Random832, is ext2 the setting I want as well, for my main partition?
[00:12] <Random832> no, ext4
[00:12] <Random832> or ext3, i forget
[00:12] <Random832> is ext4 still experimental?
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> Sacrelicious, My 2 cents would be forgo the partition building and just see if ubuntu will install to the HD, I have watched tis from the beginning.
[00:12] <Ben64> Sacrelicious: ext4, and i'd recommend against /boot
[00:12] <Sacrelicious> wilee-nilee, already have, many times.
[00:12] <adam_____> I'm new to Ubuntu and am having SQUASHFS error problems while booting 12.04 from LiveCD. Is there anything I can type on this black screen with the white text to make it work?
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> Sacrelicious, Yes, however you had that fat32 boot partition before.
[00:12] <Ben64> adam_____: sounds like you have a bad image/burn
[00:13] <Sacrelicious> wilee-nilee, honestly, i have no idea what I'm doing.
[00:13] <Sacrelicious> ok so,
[00:13] <Ben64> Sacrelicious: then why not let the installer partition for you?
[00:13] <Sacrelicious> partitions are in place, should i try a live install now?
[00:13] <Sacrelicious> Ben64, i have, it wont boot
[00:13] <Ben64> because you were on gpt
[00:13] <Ben64> which i hope you changed to msdos
[00:13] <Sacrelicious> Ben64, i dont know what that is, or how to change it to msdos.
[00:13] <Ben64> then fix that now
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> Sacrelicious, Yes I know that, ;) and to many helpers who are not really up to date with what has happened and your goals.
[00:14] <adam_____> Is there something I can type, Ben64?
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> gparted shopuld hae asked i belive.
[00:14] <Sacrelicious> wilee-nilee, what would you suggest?
[00:14] <Ben64> adam_____: no, you probably need to redownload the iso and/or burn it again
[00:14] <Random832> the gpt was on /dev/sdb i thought
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> Sacrelicious, If it were me I would follow Dr_Willis and ignore the rest.
[00:14] <Sacrelicious> Random832, i believe it was, thats the live key i'm booting from, and i did get it saying sdb
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> I think his gparted errors are from gpt on his usb flash drive
[00:14] <Sacrelicious> Dr_Willis, they are
[00:15] <Sacrelicious> Dr_Willis, when i run gparted from the terminal on sda, i don't get the error message
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> Sacrelicious:  was sda the hard drive? or the flash drive?
[00:15] <Sacrelicious> Dr_Willis, HD
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> if you are sure. ;) go for it then. hehe
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> after zeroing the drive. gparted should have asked what kind of partion table to put on the drive
[00:16] <Ben64> you can check what it has in gparted
[00:16] <Random832> he said it asked if it should make one
[00:16] <Ben64> View -> Device Information
[00:16] <Random832> he didn't say it asked what kind
[00:16] <Random832> _can_ you use a msdos partition table on a 1TB drive?
[00:16] <Ben64> yes
[00:16] <Sacrelicious> Ben64, i want the type to be msdos, correct?
[00:16] <Ben64> correct
[00:16] <Sacrelicious> okay...
[00:16] <Sacrelicious> heres what i'm gonna do, i'm going to try a live install, it only takes 5 minutes
[00:17] <Sacrelicious> if this doesn't work, i will return from the live usb.
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> dont get partion type confused with the filesystem type.
[00:17] <Sacrelicious> hold up, i may need some assistance.
[00:17] <Sacrelicious> ext4 is what i want for my linux partition, correct?
[00:17] <Ben64> yes
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> Sacrelicious:  ext4 is the normal partion type to use these days for linux
[00:17] <TobeH> I need some help please. Ive tried searching forums but i have had no luck yet.
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> ext2 and ext3 can work. ;)
[00:17] <Sacrelicious> "erase disk and install ubuntu", or "something else" ?
[00:18] <Sacrelicious> i'm assuming "something else", as i just created those partitions?
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> Sacrelicious:  use  'somthing else' and define the /boot / and swap partions which you made with gparted
[00:18] <Ben64> how big did you make '/boot'?
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> or just let it use the whole disk - if you dont want a /boot and so forth. ;) it will make a / and swap
[00:18] <Random832> what exactly were your problems booting before?
[00:19] <Sacrelicious> ok so, for my swap, just set it as swap
[00:19] <Sacrelicious> Ben64, 1g
[00:19] <Ben64> that works
[00:19] <Sacrelicious> Dr_Willis, for the main partition, set it as ext4 journaling file system, mount to / ?
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> yes
[00:20] <Sacrelicious> Random832, linux was not an option to boot to in my bios, and when i tried to simply boot to "hd", i got an error saying no bootable device.
[00:20] <Sacrelicious> Dr_Willis, ok, what about the boot partition?
[00:20] <Sacrelicious> Dr_Willis, mount to /boot ???
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> Sacrelicious:  put it in /boot/  of course. ;)
[00:20] <Sacrelicious> /boot/, two slashes?
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> the pull down menu says /boot dosent it? use it.
[00:20] <Sacrelicious> Dr_Willis, used as ext2 file system?
[00:20] <Random832> Sacrelicious: the issue might be how you installed grub
[00:21] <Sacrelicious> Dr_Willis,  ah, yes
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> if you want/ ext2/3 is normally used on boot
[00:21] <Sacrelicious> Random832, i didn't install grub.
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> i rarely use /boot/ any more
[00:21] <Ben64> you do need grub to boot
[00:21] <Sacrelicious> should that not install with linux??? =/
[00:21] <clemens> hello, i'm running ubuntu 12.04 64 bit with 3.2.0-53-generic kernle. i want to make a kernle update but i don't know what's the right/best one!?
[00:21] <Random832> it asks you at the end whether to install it to the boot partition or the mbr
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> Grub should install by default. fr some reasn it failed for you Sacrelicious  eralier.
[00:22] <Sacrelicious> okay,
[00:22] <Sacrelicious> so heres what i'm gonna do
[00:22] <dhaval2712> I need help please. How do I remove nvidia drivers and restore nouveau?
[00:22] <Sacrelicious> i'm going to install this now, i'll be back in about 10 mins
[00:22] <kostkon> clemens, get the raring one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[00:22] <Sacrelicious> wait a sec
[00:22] <Sacrelicious> theres a drop down menu
[00:22] <Sacrelicious> asking for device for boot loader
[00:22] <Sacrelicious> should i choose sda3, where i am going to install linux?
[00:23] <Sacrelicious> or just the HD?
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> Sacrelicious:  the boot LOADER goes on the hard drive.. NOT a partion
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> VERY imporntant. ;)
[00:23] <Sacrelicious> Dr_Willis, okay.
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> sda   NOT sda1
[00:23] <Sacrelicious> so i got sda1 for boot
[00:23] <Sacrelicious> sda2 for swap
[00:23] <Sacrelicious> sda3 for installation
[00:23] <Sacrelicious> boot loader on HD, okay, here goes.
[00:24] <dhaval2712> I didn't install build-essential and linux-kernel-headers. So I can't get the Unity launcher with this?
[00:24] <natural> is there a task manager for ubuntu 13.04 64 bit?
[00:24] <bencc> are there 32-bit and 64-bit version of the php5 deb package?
[00:24] <kostkon> natural, it's called system monitor, search in the dash
[00:24] <natural> thanks
[00:24] <bencc> I'm trying "apt-get install php5:i386" but it can't find the package
[00:25] <natural> right i forgot about that one
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> natural, task manager like in windows?
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> !info php5
[00:25] <natural> can i modify my system monitor?
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> natural, top and htop even better is what I would use htop you can kill stuff.etc
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> I perfer htop ;)
[00:26] <bencc> Dr_Willis: how does this info helps?
[00:26] <natural> yeah top htop and powertop i used them before
[00:26] <qin> natural: you need to see conky, like crazy tons of configurations
[00:26] <dhaval2712> Hey one account can use Unity and the other does not.
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> htop is very customizeable  natural .
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> dhaval2712:  that points to it being a user setting issue in the files in their home directory
[00:26] <natural> cool, i wil think about htop
[00:27] <natural> yeha i have heard of conky
[00:27] <dhaval2712> What sort?
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> dhaval2712:  you could clear out their settings. Most likely files in .config and .compiz and .gtk*
[00:27] <tobeH_> everytime i use the numberpad on my browser it crashes. it also ramdomly crashes sometimes. has anyone heard of this before?
[00:27] <natural> actually i like the stuff ubuntu comes with, an i was just wondering if there were themes that would change ubuntu purple and gray and whote based theme to idk, other options?
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> dhaval2712:  theres a few guides out on 'resetting users settings back to defaults' that may mentoion other directories.  If theres nothing worth keeping. you could just move all the setting files/dirs to a backup directory
[00:28] <natural> brb
[00:28] <kostkon> dhaval2712, reset unity for that user
[00:28] <dhaval2712> Dr_Willis so I can just do sudo rm -rf .config .gtk and .compiz right?
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> natural:  there are a few themes out there that can be customzed via extra tools. i forget the name. saw them on webupd8 and omgubuntu
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> dhaval2712:  just move them to a backup dir
[00:28] <dhaval2712> Right of course.
[00:29] <natural> but honestly as it is, this distro is great
[00:30] <natural> I just always need to add a little flare to everything
[00:31] <dhaval2712> Thanks a lot Dr_Willis
[00:32] <tobeH_> :/ i guess im on my own...
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> dhaval2712:  and you dont need sudo to remove your users files if they are owned by the user.
[00:33] <sacrelicious> it worked. it worked. it worked.
[00:33] <sacrelicious> thank GOD
[00:33] <sacrelicious> thank you so much Random832 and Dr_Willis
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> dhaval2712:   a COMMON issue however is the .Xauthority file geting owned by root for some reason
[00:33] <sacrelicious> i was tearing out my hair here, ;)
[00:35] <kostkon> sacrelicious, see you on the other side soon :P
[00:36] <Archguy> can one dualboot Jellybean and Ubuntu Touch on Nexus 7? this tutorial only says how to install it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[00:36] <sacrelicious> thank you all again. :D
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> Archguy, people have set up dual booting #ubuntu-touch would be the closest channel and or #android-root
[00:37] <bazhang> Archguy, try #ubuntu-touch
[00:39] <tjbiddle> Anyone here that can help me out with AWS questions?
[00:40] <tobeH_> everytime i use the numberpad on my browser it crashes. it also ramdomly crashes sometimes. has anyone heard of this before?
[00:41] <L1mer1ck> Nytol(tm)
[00:44] <bencc> "dpkg --add-architecture" is not supported in ubuntu?
[00:47] <chsados> is there anyway to get my middle mouse button to work in firefox - in windows when i pressed down on the middle mouse scroll button if i moved the cursor down it would scroll the page down
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> chsados:  Hmm never noticed really. I tend to hate that feature in windows. There migh be some guides on askubuntu.com on getting that going. I saw someone in here last week asking the same thing
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/217786/scroll-with-middle-click
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/908/firefox-middle-mouse-button-scroll
[00:50] <chsados> thanks Dr_Feelgud got it!
[00:50] <chsados> Dr_Willis:
[00:51] <chsados> makes scrolling a webpage so much nicer :D
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> i find it annoying. ;)
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> since it rarely seems to scroll th ritghrt amountor speed for me
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> Hmm that second url -  has the option. but it dosent seem to do anything
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> chsados, Its in the prefernces yes
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> there we go.. had to close/restart firefox
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> i now have click-the middle and the page scrolls in firefox - just like windows
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> preferences-advanced-general
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/95267/mouse-wheel-click-scrolling-in-firefox  also has some info on it
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> a restart of firefox WAS needed here to get it to start working
[00:59] <bencc> is this supposed to install the 32-bit version? "apt-get -a i386 install php5" ?
[01:00] <bencc> how can I verify that it uses the 32-bit version?
[01:01] <chsados> anyone familiar with wmctrl?
[01:02] <natural> in powertop  turn off NMI watch dog?
[01:02] <natural> what is NMI watch dog?
[01:02] <gf25h> hi
[01:03] <mjayk> hi
[01:03] <farsi_> hi
[01:04] <pfifo> bencc, use the file command on the php5 binary
[01:04] <chsados> http://askubuntu.com/questions/180248/how-do-you-run-xbmc-on-nvidia-dual-screen-and-stop-it-from-taking-over-the-keybo
[01:04] <chsados> ^can anyone help explain this for me?
[01:05] <chsados> icreated that file but how do i get it to open xbmc?
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> chsados:  Hmm. You can run xbmc in a window mode. and just mouse back and forth
[01:05] <saapjunior> LOL
[01:05] <chsados> window mode is fine - but that link i posted said there is a way to remove the title bar at the top
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> hmm. xbmc here just turned off my 2nd monoitor when it fullscreened.
[01:12] <chsados> thankfully that doesnt happen to me
[01:12] <chsados> im reading something about dual x servers?
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> i rarely have needed dual X servers. they can be a pain
[01:12] <chsados> what is dual x servers?
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> i forget how you even make the 2nd server the focus.
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> runing 2 seperate X sessions, one on each monitor
[01:13] <chsados> my 2nd monitor is just a big led tv it is only ever used for xbmc
[01:14] <chsados> i can get xbmc on the 2nd one in window mode but the title bar is annoying at the top
[01:14] <chsados> and i gotta get it right before breaking bad comes out! lol
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> hmm. xbmc stuck my monitors into clone mode. cant get them back into  twinview layout
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> brb
[01:19] <yoo213> !ops
[01:19] <yoo213> !ops BAN ME
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. xbmc in twinview is very confiused for me. now.   Better check the 13.10 bug reports. ;)
[01:20] <yoo213> !ops | BAN ME
[01:20] <yoo213> !ops | BANME
[01:20] <Hodapp> ...
[01:20] <Maple__> ...
[01:20] <chsados> i gotta google what twinview is
[01:20] <yoo213> !ops | BANME
[01:20] <yoo213> !ops hodapp
[01:20] <Maple__> You probably will be, at that rate.
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> chsados: Nvidias special xcinerama mode
[01:20] <chsados> oh
[01:21] <chsados> im on ATI HD 4890 running just the default ubuntu drivers - whenever i try to install ATI drivers and reboot i get an error saying running in low graphics mode
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> ati has a similer thing. but i forget what they call it
[01:23] <chsados> Dr_Willis: this might help http://www.rizsilverthorn.net/linux/xbmc-on-dual-monitors
[01:23] <chsados> i just dont get how to create that file
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> chsados:  i recall it working fine befor. Now its spreading across the 2 monitors for me
[01:24] <chsados> yea thats what that url states how to fix
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> that url seems invalid
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> The server is temporarily unable to service your request due
[01:24] <chsados> http://www.rizsilverthorn.net/linux/xbmc-on-dual-monitors/
[01:25] <chsados> wow looks like the site went down
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> you killed it@
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[01:27] <Levi_> wow its quiet too quiet
[01:27] <mrrcp> yep
[01:27] <mrrcp> sunday funday
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> Sunday Night at 9:00 everyone is rushing to get homework done. ;P
[01:27] <mrrcp> everyone is asleep
[01:27] <dhyana> s am
[01:27] <dhyana> :P
[01:27] <mrrcp> or watching the game
[01:27] <chsados> Dr_Willis: try http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.rizsilverthorn.net/linux/xbmc-on-dual-monitors/
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> ssh I'm meditating
[01:27] <Levi_> i know i am like that on sunday @Dr_WIllis
[01:28] <natural> can i make the system monitor go transparent when inactive?
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> chsados:  so whats the problem?
[01:29] <natural> how do i make all inactive windows transparent?
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> natural:  theres a compiz plugin i recall that can do that
[01:30] <qin> natural: reverting to 10.10? and compiz
[01:30] <natural> yeah i was thinking without compiz
[01:30] <natural> nahi have 13.04 64 biot
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[01:30] <natural> i jsut like it when my windows go transp[arent when inactive
[01:31] <natural> do i need to restart computer?
[01:32] <natural> hey ubottu a bot?
[01:32] <kostkon> natural, logout
[01:32] <natural> can i just sudo apt-get intall compiz?
[01:32] <kostkon> natural, unity is a compiz plugin thus you are laready running it
[01:33] <natural> ah
[01:33] <tjbiddle> Hey guys - Why can I not add nameservers to my /etc/resolv.conf and have them resolve - Instead I have to add them to my domain registrar?
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> compiz IS installed bvy default. the ccsm tool is not
[01:33] <natural> so what's my next step to get the full set of bells and whistles?
[01:33] <kostkon> natural, just install the ccsm app
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> brb.
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> or the config manager
[01:33] <natural> over in the software center kost?
[01:33] <natural> kostkon, ^
[01:33] <kostkon> natural, y
[01:33] <natural> cool
[01:34] <kostkon> natural, careful what you are doing though. don't disable the wrong plugins for example
[01:34]  * wilee-nilee waits for the my desktop is broken after messing with compiz
[01:34] <kostkon> :/
[01:34] <natural> yes thank you kostkon i have some exp with compiiz, i just wanted to know if there was another way, because xfce mint 15 had it through panel szettings
[01:34] <qin> tjbiddle: hm?
[01:35] <tjbiddle> qin: Can I give an example using AWS route 53 and you'd understand that?
[01:35] <kostkon> natural, for what you are asking, no. some things can be done with unity-tweak or ubuntu-tweak. the will change some compiz confs for you
[01:35] <tjbiddle> Not experienced enough with dns to know how much translates to other solutions
[01:36] <kostkon> they*
[01:36] <natural> so this ccsm wont let me make inactive windows transpafrent?
[01:37] <qin> tjbiddle: rather would not get it, but #dns looks tempting
[01:37] <somsip> tjbiddle: because you add domains to your domain registrar so the entries get propogated out to other nameservers.
[01:37] <kostkon> natural, if there is such an option, then yes
[01:37] <kostkon> natural, plugin and/or plugin option whatever
[01:37] <natural> kostkon, if the xfce was able to do it through the panel, don't you think this sort of feature would be a simple thing?
[01:38] <kostkon> natural, im assuming xfce has it's own compositor
[01:38] <natural> idk, i know xfce mint comes from ubuntu, but maybe kubuntu or xubuntu, not sure
[01:39] <natural> it isnt gimp, it is the gui not debian, gnu, yeah gnu
[01:39] <kostkon> natural, but, enjoy it will it lasts, ubuntu is getting rid of compiz
[01:39] <natural> unity is not like gnu right? those are the two destops? gnu and unity?
[01:39] <kostkon> while*
[01:39] <tjbiddle> qin: I'll pop over there.
[01:39] <natural> that's ok, i never liked compiz so much anyway, i like having new software, i mean, i can't wait to see what they will desing next
[01:39] <kostkon> natural, unity is gnome3 with some other elements, like compiz and nux or whatever is called
[01:39] <tjbiddle> somsip: Still confused. AWS Route53 generates virtual nameservers - I added those into my /etc/resolv.conf and then added a record set into route 53 but it never resolved.
[01:40] <tjbiddle> Waited 30+ minutes as well.
[01:40] <natural> gnome
[01:40] <natural> thanks
[01:40] <natural> not gnu
[01:40] <natural> gnome
[01:40] <FloodBot1> natural: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:40] <natural> damn i got a bit excited, it is thunderingher something feirce
[01:40] <qin> natural: gnu is not a unix, unity is ethier state if unification or ubuntu wm
[01:40] <natural> i thnk someone might undestand how i might remember gnome as gnu
[01:41] <somsip> tjbiddle: you don't add those to your resolve. You just resolv as normal, but you need to wait for Route53 changes to propagate out to the nameserver you use. Whicj mostly depends on TTL
[01:42] <natural> when is the no-compiz ubuntu comming out?
[01:42] <qin> natural: it is caller ubuntu-server for example
[01:42] <kostkon> natural, officially, maybe oct 2014, that's unity 8
[01:42] <natural> cool
[01:42] <natural> but thats a while from now
[01:42] <natural> wow
[01:42] <qin> natural: of sorry, you ment mir think
[01:43] <natural> mircat
[01:43] <natural> ?
[01:43] <Ari-Yang> "no compiz ubuntu" is mir? :|
[01:43] <natural> idk
[01:43] <qin> Ari-Yang: not sure
[01:43] <kostkon> no compiz is qt5 based unity sitting on mir
[01:43] <Ari-Yang> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_%28software%29
[01:43] <natural> what is mir?
[01:44] <Ari-Yang> natural, check wikipedia
[01:44] <Ari-Yang> ubuntu 13.10 I think will have it
[01:44] <Ari-Yang> and possibly 14.04 LTS?
[01:44] <tjbiddle> somsip: So is adding a `nameserver some_ip_or_host_here` line in your /etc/resolv.conf not have the same meaning as adding one to your domain registrar? Naming conventions there are misleading then?
[01:45] <somsip> tjbiddle: does your resolv.conf have a line that says "#     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN" ?
[01:45] <MocoacArting> won't MIR cause more fragmentation ?
[01:45] <qin> haha
[01:45] <natural> mir sounfds coo
[01:45] <tjbiddle> somsip: Yup. I edited /etc/resolvconf/conf.d/head and then ran `resolvconf -u` to update.
[01:45] <tjbiddle> somsip: Albeit, I believe if you edit /etc/resolv.conf manually - it's fine and will update right away - it just gets overwritten if you reboot
[01:46] <qin> MocoacArting: What's fragmentation?
[01:46] <tjbiddle> That's what it seemed to do through my experimentation at least
[01:46] <MocoacArting> waste effort and time on another project while everyone works on something else.
[01:46] <vicsar> .
[01:47] <somsip> tjbiddle: fair enough. I've never used Route53 virtual nameservers in the way you're wanting to, so it's difficult to see why you want to do this. SO i'm not sure i can help further
[01:47] <tjbiddle> somsip: Just wanted to test locally as I don't have access to the domain registrar and wanted to move forward on this project without having to wait for my client to get back with me and update it (If that was even necessary)
[01:49] <somsip> tjbiddle: I see. AFAIK, the domain registrar needs to be updated to point at the AWS nameservers. But I can't say I've ever tried anything different. Maybe #dns is the bes tplace after all
[01:50] <MocoacArting> how do verify ubuntu packages that i download from packages.ubuntu.com ?
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> MocoacArting, They come from the repos, do you mean a sum?
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> verify what?
[01:51] <MocoacArting> well aptitude auto verifies the package with the signed key
[01:52] <fancyfetus> Hi guys
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> Never heard of a problem withe the repos, I would not bother with aptitude personally
[01:52] <qin> MocoacArting: compare "local" mdsum with listed i.e. http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/raring/fonts-arabeyes
[01:52] <fancyfetus> I am using Universal USB installer to install ubuntu 13.04 onto my 4 GB fat32 formatted USB drive.
[01:52] <qin> MocoacArting: MD5 checksum
[01:53] <fancyfetus> When trying to boot to the drive, i just get a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left.
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | fancyfetus
[01:53] <MocoacArting> but if im using dpkg it doesn't verify it with the signed key. so how do i verify it.
[01:53] <MocoacArting> umm but there is no Md5sum listed
[01:54] <MocoacArting> or is it that listed in the gpg.releases ?
[01:55] <ChogyDan> MocoacArting: you might be able to just run debsums .deb
[01:57] <ChogyDan> MocoacArting: I think many packages have included md5 sums, and that will just run a check on the deb vs those md5s
[01:58]  * wilee-nilee looks for his tinfoil fez
[01:59] <fancyfetus> wilee-nilee, I'm currently using Windows, but I plan on replacing it with Ubuntu. Is there any way to set nomodeset without first getting into ubuntu?
[01:59] <MocoacArting> umm but is there no way to verify downloaded deb packages with the signed ubuntu key ?
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> fancyfetus, from the grub menu on a partitioned install or f6 on a live cd, is this a wuni situation?
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> wubi*
[02:00] <fancyfetus> It's a wubi installation, I believe.
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> fancyfetus, Wubi is inside windows as a file if you remove windows wubi is gone. It is also a tryout setup, I would dual boot in the end.
[02:01] <fancyfetus> I installed the 13.04 iso file and am using Universal USB Installer to put it onto my usb drive.
[02:01] <gfallbackjcbv> isnt lts the best way to go so u dont get caught with your pants down
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> you installed the iso then are installing it again?
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> gfallbackjcbv:  i rarely use LTS. I like testing the new features
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> gfallbackjcbv:  it all depends on you rneeds
[02:02] <fancyfetus> sorry. I downloaded the 13.04 iso file
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> fancyfetus:  ;)
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> that makes more sence. heh.
[02:02] <qin> MocoacArting: my bad with source link, here is deb of moc (best player ever) with md5checksum at the bottom
[02:02] <gfallbackjcbv> whats the point of having a nother hd has home folder
[02:02] <kostkon> !info moc
[02:02] <fancyfetus> after universal usb installer does its thing, wubi.exe is on the usb. So is that a wubi install or a liveCD install?
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> gfallbackjcbv:  makes reinstalling a lot easier.. lets me keep all my users stuff on my SPeedy SSD hard drive... lets me put other users on the slow 3TB hd..
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> fancyfetus, wubi is not on the 13.04 iso, it wopuld be a partitioned install a live enviroment.
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> fancyfetus:  wubi.exe is a tool you can run from within windows to do a wubi install., I would FORGET wubi even exists
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> on the usb it is live
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> the fact theres a wubi.exe means that theres just the wubi installer ON the usb. :)
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> Best wubi advice.. is forget wubi ever existed.
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> +1
[02:05] <gfallbackjcbv> actualy wubi is good cause it keeps u from getting caught up in the linux mess
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> wubi is a disaster..
[02:05] <MocoacArting> qin, im just wondering how apt-get and aptitude verify packages
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> if you want to test out a linux without partioning - use virtualbox
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> hallelujah
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> or a live-usb, or do a full install to a usb
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> fancyfetus, It sounded like you want to run ubuntu as your main OS eventually, we can help you do a regular partitioned install if you like
[02:10] <JaredFTW> Hello everyone
[02:11] <fancyfetus> wilee-nilee, Yes, I'd like to install ubuntu as my main os
[02:11] <JaredFTW> So I have a problem
[02:12] <JaredFTW> I'm trying to set OpenJDK Java 7 Runtime as the default application for opening .jar files, but when I go into Properties, then go into Open With, OpenJDK isn't there.
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> fancyfetus, Cool, I would dualboot it to start with is all, I use windows on occasion myself, even though I started with open source.
[02:12] <JaredFTW> Hm...
[02:13] <fancyfetus> wilee-nilee, I'm trying to force myself to adapt completely to linux. I've installed it and used it before using wubi, but would like to make the full leap now.
[02:13] <JaredFTW> Well, it looks like you should install Linux, but when it says if you want to overwrite Windows 7, select the option that allows you to dual-boot
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> fancyfetus, Cool, well just ask what you need to.
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> fancyfetus:  be sure you got a rescue-recovery dvd set made - just in case you ever need windows back.
[02:15] <JaredFTW> So...does anyone know what problem I sent in, or are you all too busy?
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> like if you sell or give away the pc.
[02:15] <fancyfetus> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop is this where I should download ubuntu 13.04?
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> JaredFTW:  id have to suggest checking askubuntu.com to see how it should be done.
[02:15] <JaredFTW> The entire point of this IRC channel is for ubuntu help
[02:15] <ChogyDan> JaredFTW: there is some sort of command line tool to do the job, but I end up just removing the other versions of java
[02:16] <fancyfetus> I have the cd's already made. Though I don't exactly have a legitimate  copy of windows 8 installed, I have my original windows 7 disks.
[02:16] <JaredFTW> Well I need to make it the default application for .jar files, I don't want to make a .sh script everytime I install blah.jar and blargh.jar
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/192914/how-run-a-jar-file-with-a-double-click
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> the .jar may need to be executable in order for that to work. I recall someone mentiond in here once
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> newer answer - mentioning java 7 -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/224463/how-do-i-reenable-opening-jar-files-by-double-clicking-on-them
[02:23] <ChogyDan> sudo update-alternatives --config java        fwiw
[02:24] <Nothing_Much> Anybody know how to get rEFInd on a 2006 32 bit white iMac for Ubuntu?
[02:25] <dhyana> Nothing_Much:  try #macosx
[02:25] <Nothing_Much> Thanks
[02:25] <dhyana> ok
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> Nothing_Much, Not sure ubuntu is going to run on that.
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> very well anyway
[02:26] <Clank|Tab> So im deciding if ill switch to linux or not
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> that is a Intel cpu imac and not a ppc one? i hope. ;)
[02:26] <Nothing_Much> wilee-nilee, I'm actually using Lubuntu and tried Fedora, but the problem stems from attempting to get rid of the ? mark folder to boot up the Mac faster
[02:26] <fancyfetus> wilee-nilee, so where exactly should I get the image that i need to install to my usb? The ubuntu website gets harder and harder to navigate every time i visit it.
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> I was thinking lubuntu
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> fancyfetus, You want what release 12.04 longterm or 13.o4 not supported for more than 4 more months?
[02:27] <mgaray> Hi im new, who can i talk to for help installing flash player
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> !torrents
[02:28] <sordidbass> not a fan of 13.04
[02:28] <fancyfetus> why is 13.04 not supported for more than 4 months?
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> fancyfetus:  what one are you looking for?
[02:28] <sordidbass> 12.04.3 is better
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> mgaray, Install the ubuntu-restricted-extras get flash other codecs and ms fonts.
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> !13.04
[02:28] <mgaray> I need help installing flash player
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu has Long term support versions - if you want to not need to reinstall/upgrade  so often
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> fancyfetus, support was moved to 9 months on it is all not 18
[02:29] <fancyfetus> Why is 12.04 the more liked one?
[02:29] <mgaray> guys help
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> mgaray, I just did.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis>  fancyfetus  12.04 is the latest LTS release
[02:29] <sordidbass> nice thing about the latest LTS 12.04.3 is that it includes the latest updates in X.org and a the 13.04 kernel but offeres the support of an LTS release
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> fancyfetus:  it all depends on your needs
[02:29] <mgaray> oh wow didnt see u, but ive done that so many times and it hasnt worked
[02:30] <compdoc> LTS 12.04.3 works well
[02:30] <fancyfetus> LTS = Long Term Service?
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> !lts
[02:30] <ChogyDan> fancyfetus: :)
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> mgaray, you have the partner and backport repos open?
[02:30] <fancyfetus> ahh, I see. I can upgrade if i want to from inside ubuntu, right?
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> fancyfetus:  of course.
[02:30] <mgaray> how would i do that? I just installed ubuntu finally on my chromebook today
[02:31] <fancyfetus> okay, 12.04 LTS it is!
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> fancyfetus:  if you have a cutting-edge new laptop - then a newer release may be a better idea.
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> mgaray, run  software-properties-gtk and look that they are ticked
[02:31] <fancyfetus> Dr_Willis, nope, 2 years old now.
[02:31] <mgaray> how do i run that, in terminal?
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> fancyfetus:  run whatever you want then.
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> mgaray, Make sure they are then run sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> mgaray, yes run means the terminal in general
[02:32] <fancyfetus> So I just download ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso and install it to my flash drive?
[02:32] <fancyfetus> then boot it?
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> yep
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> fancyfetus:  you use a proper tool to put iton the USB.  dont just copy the iso to the usb
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> ^^^^
[02:33] <fancyfetus> I did that with 13.04 and got the whole black screen thing. Yeah, I used Universal USB Installer.
[02:33] <mgaray> yea they are ticked
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | fancyfetus
[02:33] <kostkon> mgaray, flash is not available on arm cpus
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> fancyfetus, There is a nomodeset option for black screens
[02:33] <mgaray> they are ticked
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> mgaray:  no flash for arm.
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> ah, my bad
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> well unless you are running android. ;)
[02:34] <fancyfetus> wilee-nilee, but how would i set it if I can't even get install or access linux?
[02:34] <mgaray> oh so it doesnt work on samsung series 3
[02:34] <johnca|home> hello, What's a good way to keep /etc/ or other config type files in a repo and then put them in place after cloning a repo?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> fancyfetus, You can with nomodeset likely, read the bots link.
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> mgaray:  its possibld google-chrome Might have some arm flash - but ive never really noticed.
[02:34] <kostkon> Dr_Willis, neither. it's been removed
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> kostkon:  I got itgoing on my android. ;) unofficially of course.
[02:35] <kostkon> Dr_Willis, yeah, old unsupported version
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> there are flash-downloader extensions and play-flash-in-mplayer or vlc
[02:35] <JaredFTW> I'm pretty sure Ubottu is a bot
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> kostkon:  like they even had 'support' when they were new and supported. ;)
[02:35] <kostkon> mgaray, you are on an arm platform you should think accordingly. no steam, no flash, no most of games etc
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> JaredFTW, yes she is
[02:36] <kostkon> Dr_Willis, indeed
[02:36] <mgaray> alright, well thank you for telling me so i dont waste anymore time
[02:36] <fancyfetus> I changed the MBR of my USB drive
[02:36] <JaredFTW> Wait, wait, wait, wait, no steam on a ARM platform?
[02:36] <fancyfetus> let me try 13.04 again.
[02:36] <fancyfetus> I'll brb
[02:36] <mgaray> but is there a way to watch youtube at all on arm?
[02:36] <kostkon> mgaray, yes
[02:37] <mgaray> how
[02:37] <kostkon> mgaray, enable html5 youtube.com/html5
[02:37] <JaredFTW> So, wilee-nilee, Ubottu is actually a woman.
[02:37] <JaredFTW> OKAY!
[02:37] <mgaray> i tried that, but when it gives me to option to use the extension on a video it doesnt do anything
[02:37] <JaredFTW> GOT IT!
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> JaredFTW, Thats the general consensus with bots. ;)
[02:37] <dhyana> hi ubottu
[02:38] <JaredFTW> Hm...That's sexist
[02:38] <kostkon> mgaray, what extension?
[02:38] <JaredFTW> Bots are usually called women
[02:38] <mgaray> html5, im in the trial already
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> Ubotu is a FemBot ;P
[02:38] <kostkon> mgaray, what happens when you try to watch a vid
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> okay the bots a hermaphrodite
[02:39] <kostkon> mgaray, what browser?
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  oh my... ;P
[02:39] <mgaray> chromium
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> still a diva
[02:40] <mgaray> would it work if i got it from chrome store
[02:40] <kostkon> mgaray, hmm ok. better change to chrome, if there is an arm ver for it, or firefox. chromium might be missing codecs needs some further setup
[02:41] <kostkon> or*
[02:41] <mgaray> how do i install chrome on arm?
[02:41] <Dr_Feelgud> hello guys is ther any terminal base monitoring tool for ubuntu?
[02:41] <JaredFTW> Dunno
[02:41] <sacrelicious> hey guys, just installed a fresh install of ubuntu on a new machine
[02:41] <sacrelicious> any idea why i'm not getting any sound?
[02:41] <qin> Dr_Feelgud: top?
[02:41] <JaredFTW> Have you rebooted?
[02:41] <JaredFTW> Just kidding.
[02:41] <sacrelicious> for some reason, my only output device is "dummy output"
[02:41] <kostkon> mgaray, actually, is this package already installed? is it available actually: chromium-codecs-ffmpeg
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> sacrelicious, applauds the install. ;)
[02:41] <JaredFTW> Hm...
[02:41] <sacrelicious> wilee-nilee, ha, thanks.
[02:42] <mgaray> how do i check?
[02:42] <JaredFTW> Are you using a desktop or laptop?
[02:42] <kostkon> mgaray, a quick way, is in the terminal:  apt-cache policy chromium-codecs-ffmpeg
[02:42] <Dr_Feelgud> qin i need a network monitoting tool that can run on terminal
[02:42] <qin> Dr_Feelgud: iftop
[02:42] <fancyfetus> Still nothing. I dont think that the nomodeset will work for me since i dont even have simple access to linux.
[02:43] <mgaray> installed
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> fancyfetus:  you select nomodeset from the live cd boot up menus if you need to enable it
[02:43] <fancyfetus> It doesnt boot at all. It doesnt even try. It just black screens and the cursor flashes. The usb light doesnt flash to show that it is active.
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> fancyfetus:  or if you make a live-usb - you can do it that way. or alter the startup files to make it the default
[02:44] <kostkon> mgaray, hmm ok. so what happens when you try to wach a video on youtube
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> fancyfetus:  sounds like you got a bad iso/burn/image made on usb
[02:44] <JaredFTW> Alright, I have another problems
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> fancyfetus, You look at the nomodeset prompt by the bot?
[02:44] <JaredFTW> problme*
[02:44] <sacrelicious> anyone got ideas on my sound?
[02:44] <JaredFTW> problem**
[02:44] <qin> Dr_Feelgud: or... bring it all: http://nagios-cli.maze.io/
[02:44] <Dr_Feelgud> qin, thanks i'll try that
[02:44] <mgaray> black screen
[02:44] <fancyfetus> wilee-nilee, yes
[02:44] <JaredFTW> Can I use the Nintendo Wi-Fi USB Connecter with Linux?
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> fancyfetus, And you have used it on the boot?
[02:45] <kostkon> mgaray, same in firefox?
[02:45] <mgaray> i have an adobe 11.3 installed, by putting lipepflashplayer.so in chromium
[02:45] <fancyfetus> And Dr_Willis, its possible. Ill have to redownload the iso. I installed it onto the uab multiple times.
[02:45] <fancyfetus> Usb**
[02:45] <kostkon> mgaray, hmm. arm version of that .so?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> JaredFTW:  try it and see? I got one i was going to try last week - but cant find it. ;)  oh wait. Mine is a USB->wired ;)
[02:45] <mgaray> whoa, it plays on fiirefox
[02:46] <kostkon> mgaray, ;)
[02:46] <JaredFTW> I'm  using a Wireless one
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> fancyfetus, Are you getting the try or install or check the memory gui on the usb boot?
[02:46] <kostkon> mgaray, better remove the .so file, it could be the cause of the problem in chromium
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> fancyfetus:  this is why i use torrents.  they tend to self-verify better. ;)
[02:46] <sordidbass> i'm quite surprised the Pipelight plugin actually works
[02:46] <mgaray> how do i remove it, it wont move to trash or anything
[02:46] <JaredFTW> Never mind, it's useles..
[02:46] <JaredFTW> useless..*
[02:47] <JaredFTW> you can use it with most router
[02:47] <JaredFTW> routers*
[02:47] <fancyfetus> Dr_Willia, ill do that this time. wilee-nilee, nope. I get nothing at all. Straight from bios to black screen.
[02:47] <mgaray> kost how do i remove .so
[02:47] <JaredFTW> Dr_Willia, you use what?
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> fancyfetus, Cool just wanted to confirm that on he ubuntu website are alternative downloads to get to a torrent.
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> the*
[02:48] <kostkon> mgaray, how did you put it there? if you gave a command like this sudo cp file path_to_chromium_folder, then just give sudo rm path_to_chromium_folder/file
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> !torrents
[02:48] <JaredFTW> Also, Dr_Willia, the Nintendo Wi-Fi USB Connecter is useless anyways
[02:48] <mgaray> oh, i think it was something like that. sudo in place of cp its rm?
[02:48] <cathryn> hey gang, i recently installed Lubuntu 13.04 for my sister and there's just one problem.  i can't seem to find the VGA settings under "Monitor Settings".  I installed Lubuntu for her in the past and i remember there was a tab for VGA settings.  will they show up after i plug a VGA cable in?
[02:48] <fancyfetus> Torrenting it now, ill let you guys know how it gows.
[02:48] <fancyfetus> Goes*
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> cool
[02:48] <kostkon> mgaray, and combine the filename with the path
[02:49] <qin> mgaray: history | grep so
[02:50] <fancyfetus> My new internet setup doesnt like torrents though, so this may take a while.
[02:50] <mgaray> ok i removed it
[02:50] <kostkon> mgaray, restart chromium and check
[02:52] <mgaray> alright, no shockwave plugin it say. html5 i removed earlier which i got from chrome store, do i get that back again?
[02:52] <reisio> chrome store?
[02:52] <kostkon> mgaray, i dont know what that is. but if you think ti is needed, get it again
[02:52] <kostkon> mgaray, firefox is always a good fallback option
[02:53] <livelaughlearn> kostkon, after i downloaded the usb to html driver, something crashed and i couldnt get into gui mode, now  i have a messed up second monitor using a fraction of the screen. please advise
[02:53] <reisio> mgaray: there's a VLC plugin that will take any youtube video and play it in place
[02:53] <livelaughlearn> kostkon, it cant detect my monitor but it displays it
[02:53] <reisio> youtube-viewer would probably be better, but less orthodox
[02:53] <mgaray> alright, i got html5 extension for chromium and when i click the 5 under video it doesnt play
[02:54] <kostkon> livelaughlearn, is the 1st monitor working ok?
[02:54] <cathryn> can anyone help me with a vga cable problem?
[02:54] <livelaughlearn> kostkon, the main laptop one, yes
[02:54] <reisio> cathryn: no, but some people probably could
[02:55] <kostkon> livelaughlearn, you could remove the package. did you create a xorg conf file after installing the package?
[02:55] <mgaray> html5 doesnt play video, it gives the option to use it but it doesnt play it
[02:55] <livelaughlearn> i tried but it did not let me save
[02:56] <livelaughlearn> it did detect my display (green screen) for the usb to hdmi
[02:56] <kostkon> livelaughlearn, and then?
[02:56] <livelaughlearn> but now everything is messed up
[02:56] <livelaughlearn> it wasnt consistent any more
[02:56] <kostkon> livelaughlearn, so both monitors are messed up now
[02:56] <mgaray> html5 help
[02:57] <livelaughlearn> it would only detect one at a time, and i couldnt fix the green
[02:58] <kostkon> livelaughlearn, did you try to setup your external monitor(s) in system settings?
[02:58] <livelaughlearn> kostkon, it cannot detect my direct hdmi montior in settings, but it does display in a smaller area of the monitor
[02:59] <mgaray> kost nvm firefox doesnt play either it just played a video on youtube page then when i searched one it didnt work
[02:59] <Dr_Willis>  mgaray  for firefox and youtube. i tend to use the flash downloader extensions and just download the video in mp4  format
[02:59] <kostkon> mgaray, some play some not. you wont get 100% of the vids to play with html5
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> not all youtube videos have html5 versions
[02:59] <mgaray> oh ok
[03:00] <kostkon> livelaughlearn, you could try to remove the pacakge or create a xorg file
[03:00] <elfer> youtube-dl works good
[03:00] <mgaray> so how would i view the videos that dont have html5 support
[03:00] <elfer> work's great
[03:00] <livelaughlearn> kostkon, how do i do that i did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core first
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> mgaray:  download them and watch them
[03:00] <kostkon> mgaray, download them then converted them to some other format
[03:00] <livelaughlearn> kostkon thank you i am learning
[03:00] <mgaray> ok so i get flash downloader and how do i download video
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> you most likely dont need to convert. :) vlc and other players can play .flv
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> mgaray:  the ff extsnsion adds a download button to the web page.
[03:02] <kostkon> livelaughlearn, sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-displaylink?
[03:02] <mgaray> so how do i get the extension and does minitube work
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> mgaray:  go to the firefox extension site and look for one
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> http://www.flashvideodownloader.org/helpfirefox.php  is what i use
[03:04] <livelaughlearn> kostkon, not working
[03:04] <livelaughlearn> kostkon, any other suggestions?
[03:04] <kostkon> livelaughlearn, what do you mean? actually what ubuntu version have oyu got?
[03:05] <kostkon> livelaughlearn, previously i assumed you had 12.04
[03:05] <livelaughlearn> kostkon, oh i have 12.04 and i uninstalled but nothing has improved
[03:05] <kostkon> livelaughlearn, you need to reboot
[03:06] <hero100> sometimes okular will become blank and normal again in one second. what's the problem?
[03:06] <livelaughlearn> kostkon, ok thanks
[03:11] <vmussa> hello, I just bought a new notebook with a small SSD (24gb), and would like to ask if it would be wise to install ubuntu on the HDD
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> 24gb? thats tiny.
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> but its doable
[03:11] <vmussa> yes
[03:11] <vmussa> its an ultra book
[03:11] <vmussa> haha
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> ive ran ubuntu from a 8gb usb flash. :) 16 worked better.. 32 worked great
[03:12] <vmussa> oh I see
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> you might want to stick to Lubuntu or Xbuntu if the specs are low end on that pc
[03:13] <vmussa> but since I'm a newbie I think it would be better if I installed it in the HDD
[03:14] <vmussa> oh I didnt know about theese two distros
[03:15] <vmussa> but as I said I'm kind of a newbie, and Ubuntu's community being the biggest one in Linux world makes me more confortable
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> !xubuntu
[03:16] <dhyana> !lubuntu
[03:17] <Jakey> hey does anybody know how the old way of rendering and gui stuff is
[03:17] <Jakey> before the DRM
[03:17] <vmussa> oh I see
[03:17] <desaints> Hello, I'm trying to create a hard link of a txt file in a new directory under a new name I want lisaRA.txt to hard link to ls1.txt in ~/D1 I'm stumped on how to do this..
[03:17] <desaints> I tried... ln -t lisaRA.txt ls1.txt ~/D1
[03:18] <vmussa> so all instalation process of things would be the same for ubuntu and Lubuntu and Xubuntu?
[03:18] <SwedeMike> desaints: give full path+filename in one argument.
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> the desktop is differt vmussa  - lxde and xfce are more classic old skool looking.
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> you may want to try out xubuntu first. if its to sluggish - try lubuntu
[03:19] <desaints> swedemike ln -t lisaRA.txt ~/D1/ls1.txt
[03:19] <hero100> i'm confused with the description in man page for ln. I use $(pwd)foo most of the time
[03:19] <bubbless> Xubuntu is better.
[03:19] <SwedeMike> desaints: so stand in the dir you want to create it, link to fullpath+filename and then just the filename you want in the current dir. otherwise give full path+filename
[03:19] <SwedeMike> desaints: skit -t
[03:19] <SwedeMike> skip
[03:19] <desaints> SwedeMike Ahhh gotcha
[03:20] <dhyana> 'night
[03:20] <SwedeMike> desaints: what error do you get?
[03:21] <desaints> ln ~/lisaRA.txt ls1.txt worked just fine
[03:21] <vmussa> Dr_Willis, I will look at theese options then!
[03:21] <smw94> is there any chance to update python 2.7.4 default to python 3.3 on raring ?
[03:22] <SwedeMike> smw94: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-python-3-3-on-ubuntu-13-04-12-10-and-12-04/
[03:22] <desaints> SwedeMike if i wanted to do a softlink would i just add the argument -softlink?
[03:22] <SwedeMike> desaints: -s yes
[03:22] <SwedeMike> desaints: or --softlink
[03:23] <vmussa> Dr_Willis, so there is a equivalent version of Xubuntu for every Ubuntu? I mean, if I want ubuntu 12.04, then I can install Xubuntu 12.04 so that everything will be exactly the same except for the user interface?
[03:23] <desaints> SwedeMike Thanks!
[03:25] <dhyana> Hello
[03:25] <dhyana> How is everyone
[03:25] <Bill_> Is there any good alternatives to google chrome and firefox?
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> Bill_, Can you say why those are not acceptable?
[03:27] <Bill_> Im getting alot of screen freez ups with both
[03:27] <Bill_> chrome mainly
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> Bill_, Could it be your hardware and the desktop you are running?
[03:28] <kostkon> it's flash, it's always flash
[03:28] <kostkon> Bill_, flashblock and/or adblock
[03:29] <Bill_> using 12.04 ubuntu
[03:29] <Bill_> laptop
[03:29] <Bill_> adblock
[03:29] <kostkon> Bill_, already using it?
[03:29] <Bill_> hmm wonder if thats causing it
[03:29] <kostkon> Bill_, replace it with flashblock and see
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> Bill_, what is the chip and ram amount?
[03:30] <Bill_> ok i'll try that
[03:30] <Bill_> i have a i3  4g of ram
[03:30] <al_la> quick question ... is there a way to list user installed packages instead of all installed packages?  for instance, 'dpkg --get-selections' lists all including dependencies, wherein it won't differentiate.
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> Bill_, Have you run htop to check what is running?
[03:31] <Bill_> i haven't
[03:31] <Bill_> i'll try that to
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> Bill_, I use flash blocking myself, but sounds like you have something eating the cpu and or ram maybe.
[03:32] <Bill_> ok i'll run my monitor an check it out
[03:37] <Dr_Feelgud> hello guys i need a termninal based  networking monitoring tool that shows all your  connections
[03:40] <UmbraChimera> So, I need some help!
[03:41] <spydon> UmbraChimera: ask your question instead, nobody can help you just with the knowledge that you need help.
[03:42] <al_la> quick question: how can I list *only* user installed packages?  'dpkg --get-selections' lists all including dependencies and base packages instead of just user elected.
[03:43] <UmbraChimera> This is true. It's just long-ish lol.  Installed Lubuntu on old laptop I'm trying to fix for a family friend, it has no working cd drive, bios cant boot usb. Got it all installed, and now after a crash while updating wifi driver the mouse (touchpad and a usb one) won't function.
[03:43] <UmbraChimera> advice?
[03:44] <reisio> al_la: uhhh
[03:44] <reisio> !duplicate
[03:44] <reisio> bah
[03:44] <reisio> !clone
[03:48] <UmbraChimera> I'm not even sure if I can do a fresh install and hope, I used unetboot to install it all, can't plug the hdd into my computer and install over b/c the drive is pre-sata lol
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> UmbraChimera:  go to the console. unplug/plug  the mouse in. check dmesg messages at the end to see if its seen
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> UmbraChimera:  they have universial-hd->usb adaptors for like $15  :) that can connect ide. sata. mini ide, to  a usb port.  Handy tool to have.
[03:49] <fancyfetus> What do you guys think of the side bar thingy in the newer versions of ubuntu?
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> UmbraChimera, Hopefully you can get this fixed, however you have grub installed so. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> UmbraChimera:  also try installing 'gpm' that should give you a mouse in the console as a test.
[03:49] <fancyfetus> I remember that I didn't like it when it first came up
[03:49] <al_la> !automate
[03:49] <kostkon> fancyfetus, side bar thingy = unity launcher ;)
[03:49] <fancyfetus> ahh yes! that!
[03:50] <fancyfetus> It used to use Gnome, right?
[03:50] <fancyfetus> What other ones are there?
[03:50] <fancyfetus> Gnome, Unity, what else?
[03:50] <UmbraChimera> alrighty, so i can use that to reinstall, thats one good thing, as long as none of those steps require a mouse lol
[03:51] <spydon> al_la: maybe grep -w install /var/log/dpkg.log ?
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> fancyfetus, unity is on top of gnome 3 there is the gnome-shell, fallback, xubuntu, lubuntu.
[03:51] <UmbraChimera> ill try installing gpm, and what is the console command I need to use to show the mouse?
[03:51] <al_la> spydon: ooh that's the closest I've seen
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> fancyfetus, what version did you finally install 12.04?
[03:52] <UmbraChimera> Dr_Willis: I installed  oh shit i forgot the program now. d-something-tools, the config editor. something somewhere said it could be used to renable the mouse. but i dont know how to launch it from terminal
[03:53] <al_la> spydon: thank you
[03:53] <spydon> al_la: I think you will always get the dependencies showing too if they were installed afterwards
[03:53] <desaints> how would i go about creating a .tar.bz2 file of a directory i keep getting errors like socket ignored when i do "tar -cf /tmp/ceg2350nn.tar.bz2 ~/home/desaints"
[03:54] <al_la> spydon: yeah it looks like it included a couple dependencies, and also isn't listing some things installed through the software center
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> UmbraChimera:  you mean deamon-tools in windows?
[03:54] <reisio> desaints: I doubt they stop your tarball creation
[03:54] <smw94> how to make python3.3 is the default on ubuntu 13.04 ?
[03:54] <fancyfetus> wilee-nilee, I'm still downloading the damn thing.
[03:54] <rypervenche> desaints: What is your current working directory?
[03:55] <fancyfetus> I hate my ISP...
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> UmbraChimera:  dconf-tools? ;)
[03:55] <UmbraChimera> dconf-tools
[03:55] <UmbraChimera> yeah!
[03:55] <desaints> ~
[03:55] <reisio> smw94: what for
[03:55] <spydon> That's weird, wonder why some stuff gets stored there and others not
[03:55] <smw94> reisio: my default python intrpeter is v 2.7.4
[03:55] <fancyfetus> It has a network-wide bandwidth cap of 150Mbits from 4:30PM-2AM for ALL P2P applications.
[03:55] <smw94> i want to change the default to 3.3
[03:55] <fancyfetus> So everyone using P2P shares 150Mbits... that's awful.
[03:56] <desaints> rypervenche my current directory is ~
[03:56] <reisio> smw94: ...what for
[03:56] <reisio> fancyfetus: go 'round and unplug them
[03:56] <rypervenche> desaints: I think we would need to see the exact error to be able to tell you more.
[03:56] <fancyfetus> reisio, what do you mean?
[03:56] <UmbraChimera> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I'm not even sure if that's the issue, it crashed out trying to change the driver for wifi, I think terminal running while changing driver was too much for this machine lol 60gb hdd and 386mb ram
[03:57] <reisio> fancyfetus: nothing :p
[03:57] <UmbraChimera> Dr_Willis: shown
[03:58] <desaints> rypervenche http://paste.ubuntu.com/6113421/
[03:58] <alastor__> i'm trying to install ubuntu alongside windows 8 on a notebook the same way I've done with windows 7 on my desktop... however, (after switching from UEFI to regular booting), i see the usual ubuntu install options and all but, at the point where I'm usually asked whether I want to install ubuntu alongside or replacing the original OS, it seems that ubuntu can't detect that there's already a win8 install underneath
[03:59] <alastor__> funny thing is that, if i run ubuntu live, i can see the windows stuff mounted as an "OS" partition
[03:59] <aeaglez> hi
[03:59] <alastor__> so ubuntu can see that there's a windows install in there
[03:59] <alastor__> any tips on how to proceed?
[03:59] <rypervenche> desaints: You can ignore that. It's just your cache.
[04:00] <aeaglez> can someone help me with something regarding ubuntus internet connection?
[04:00] <desaints> rypervenche so it correctly completed then?
[04:00] <rypervenche> desaints: Yes, a few files just weren't included, but you don't need those.
[04:00] <desaints> rypervenche good to know..
[04:01] <aeaglez> can anyone help me or should i go look elsewhere?
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> alastor__:  check your partion layout. IF theres 4 primary partions - it may confuse things.  and i suggest you make a dvd-restore disk set for windows befor tyring to install linux on it
[04:01] <rypervenche> !ask | aeaglez
[04:01] <fancyfetus> Oh my gosh! I encrypted the connections and now my speed is good again :') Hallelujah!
[04:02] <spydon> fancyfetus: how did you envrypt it? Tunneling?
[04:02] <spydon> encrypt*
[04:02] <fancyfetus> spydon, most popular torrent clients provide encryption now
[04:03] <spydon> fancyfetus: handy
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> many clients require encryption to allow connections from others
[04:03] <fancyfetus> Under: Options->Preferences->BitTorrent->Protocol Encryption
[04:03] <aeaglez> Ok sorry. I have been having problems with ubuntu regarding internet connection, i have ubuntu 12.04 lts, i am fairly new to ubuntu, and my problem is that my internet connection constantly disconnects, about every 5 mins and fails to re-connect, but when i go on windows 8, it re connects fairly quick, and does not disconnect. I am downloading the 13.04 version of ubuntu as we speak, what could be the problem?
[04:04] <fancyfetus> I'm getting 0.5 MB/s now that's like... 500 times better than before!
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> aeaglez, wireless?
[04:04] <aeaglez> Yes, Wireless
[04:04] <kostkon> fancyfetus, classic way to bypass the throttling
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> aeaglez, This your wifi and how far are you away from the router if so?
[04:05] <fancyfetus> Now if only i can finally install ubuntu, this will be the night of my life :P
[04:05] <alastor__> Dr_Willis: if I run ubuntu as live cd, i can see 4 disks mounted : PBR Image, OS, WINRETOOLS, and DIAGS. Is this what you meant when you said "If there's 4 primary partitions" ?
[04:05] <aeaglez> Im about 6 feet away from my router.
[04:05] <aeaglez> in other words i have full bar strength
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> aeaglez, You know the wifif card?
[04:06] <zombi> snippets shortcuts in xubuntu dont work,
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> wifi*
[04:06] <zombi> why is that?????????
[04:06] <zombi> is a bug? or is my err?
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> alastor__:  dont get disks and partions confused. and yes - it does look lik eyou have 4 partions.   check 'gparted'  to see what it says. 'sudo blkid' may also show some info
[04:07] <UmbraChimera> Dr_Willis: You ever seen something like this happen before?
[04:08] <aeaglez> wilee-nilee, might you have an idea why this problem is occuring?
[04:08] <alastor__> Dr_Willis: after googling some on the web, it seems that the process is somewhat easier if it's an ubuntu 64 bit image disk... i was trying to install a 32 bit image... do you think this might be overly complicating things?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> UmbraChimera:  every so often someone comes in here with a mouse not seen. Never seen a definitve fis
[04:08] <al_la> !patience
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> alastor__:  I basically only use 64bit - since all my pcs are 64bit ;)
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> aeaglez, Not sure run lspci in the terminal and identify the wifi hardware.
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> aeaglez, This is not an area I'm real proficient in, however these details can trigger others knowledge.
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> I'm not actually*
[04:11] <aeaglez> ok, much thanks i will attempt running my program on ubuntu i just have to tweak a few things around, i might have an idea to get it running. Thank you for your time though, i appreciate it.
[04:12] <UmbraChimera> is there a way to reset all default configs for hardware?
[04:12] <UmbraChimera> although im not sure why my usb mouse also doesnt work
[04:20] <al_la> how good is debfoster at not accidentally killing off orphans that weren't really orphans?  anyone have problems or does it work pretty smoothly?
[04:21] <reisio> combined with a backup and minimal oversight, I don't see how there'd be any risk
[04:25] <SuperLag> reisio: sup dude.
[04:25] <SuperLag> reisio: long time no see.
[04:25] <reisio> suppaah
[04:26] <SuperLag> I switched back to Unity. Definitely more polish than the variants.
[04:27] <wafflejock> not sure what the discussion is but just switched from Unity to KDE myself
[04:27] <SuperLag> learned to customize a couple things I thought I was stuck with
[04:27] <wafflejock> I liked unity but I didn't like not being able to customize
[04:28] <wafflejock> also just felt a bit like too much visual jazz was getting distracting...
[04:29] <SuperLag> wafflejock: yeah... I like Kate, a LOT. But is it worth installing 86 packages to have it here? no way. :/
[04:30] <wafflejock> if anyone out there knows anything about Asterisk/FreePBX and using Google Voice Motif recently please let me know... running into some troubles with a RasPBX setup that worked a few months ago
[04:30] <SuperLag> wafflejock: turns out it's possible to customize, but not always so easy
[04:30] <wafflejock> yeah I hear ya, I went from Ubuntu Unity -> mixed with KDE saw the ridiculous amount of depedencies I was loading and decided to wipe unity and go straight Kubuntu
[04:31] <zombi> in respect to kde y prefer xfce
[04:31] <zombi> xfce4 is quick
[04:31] <SuperLag> I just switched from that to Unity.
[04:31] <zombi> and is very configurable,
[04:31] <wafflejock> really haven't messed with XCFE is it old people friendly?
[04:31] <SuperLag> reisio: is there an Ubuntu package that I can install that will make me feel refreshed after only 3 hours of sleep? :(
[04:32] <wafflejock> was considering throwing it on my parents old desktop... they just use skype basically
[04:32] <zombi> maybe kde is graphics are great, but my pc is very slow
[04:32] <reisio> SuperLag: yeah
[04:32] <SuperLag> reisio: I can only get 6 a night, and it's never enough.... and I wish it only took 3.
[04:32] <reisio> SuperLag: echo 'http://aerobie.com/products/aeropress.htm'
[04:32] <SuperLag> and that's all I'll say before the topic police hit me with the topic baton
[04:33] <wafflejock> what is the topic?
[04:33] <wafflejock> haha I'm so terrible I've been off IRC for like 8 years
[04:33] <SuperLag> wafflejock: /topic
[04:33] <reisio> or um... dymaxion sleep, only 2 hours of sleep a 24 hour period
[04:33] <SuperLag> wafflejock: enter that command in your IRC client
[04:33] <wafflejock> SuperLag: thanks
[04:34] <SuperLag> wafflejock: if you talk anything other than Ubuntu support... you get told to go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[04:34] <SuperLag> in this channel, it makes some sense
[04:34] <wafflejock> gotcha
[04:35] <SuperLag> in another #ubuntu* channel where there is 1/10 the number of people, I got told to go to -offtopic today.... and I thought it was absolutely LAME... because that channel doesn't have a lot of activity usually, anyways.
[04:35] <crocket> I see that ubuntu has progressed a lot.
[04:35] <SuperLag> crocket: certainly... but it depends on when you're comparing it to :)
[04:36] <crocket> SuperLag, It was very shitty 2~3 years ago.
[04:36] <SuperLag> reisio: I'm reeeeeeeeeeeallllly disappointed that the Ubuntu Edge didn't get funded
[04:36] <crocket> SuperLag, But it was proven that there are many people who want it.
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> crocket, this is a no swear channel/
[04:36] <reisio> SuperLag: #ubuntu-touch still has a list of devices the OS will work on
[04:36] <crocket> Now telephone companies are willing to build sell ubuntu phones.
[04:37] <crocket> Now telephone companies are willing to sell ubuntu phones.
[04:37] <SuperLag> crocket: *shrug* I've been using it for longer than that, and if you ask me... 2-3 years ago was when it was just starting to get really good. It's only gotten better since then, if you ask me.
[04:37] <SuperLag> but.... you didn't ask me. I know. :)
[04:37] <SuperLag> reisio: yeah, but *that* device.... man. that would have been AWESOME.
[04:38] <wafflejock> Agree SuperLag about 3 years ago I stopped having to hunt for NDIS drivers during every install, since then it's gotten prettier and seemingly more stable
[04:38] <wafflejock> agree
[04:38] <mojtaba> Hi, I am going to make a backup server in a domain with windows servers and windows clients. Could you please tell me from where should I start? (I prefer linux backup server)
[04:38] <wafflejock> wanted the edge should have paid for the edge *broke*
[04:38] <reisio> SuperLag: why?
[04:38] <reisio> mojtaba: um, install it? Done
[04:38] <crocket> wafflejock, NDIS drivers became obsolete because linux has progressed.
[04:39] <SuperLag> :D
[04:39] <mojtaba> reisio: Is there a special linux OS?
[04:39] <mojtaba> or can I use ubuntu server?
[04:39] <crocket> mojtaba, You have slackware, ArchLinux, gentoo, CentOS, and redhat.
[04:40] <mojtaba> How should I configure it to make backups automatically? (Is there any tutorial for that?)
[04:40] <crocket> Arch and gentoo can be brittle.
[04:40] <wafflejock> mojtaba: Linux is simply the Kernel, all the distributions use some form of the kernel
[04:40] <reisio> mojtaba: what sort of backups do you want?
[04:40] <reisio> mojtaba: 1:1? Cumulative?
[04:40] <reisio> crocket: ...
[04:40] <crocket> reisio, what is it?
[04:40] <mojtaba> reisio: cumulative
[04:40] <wafflejock> if you're new to Linux a Debian distribution like Ubuntu is probably good for you but it's packed with extras you probably don't need too
[04:41] <reisio> mojtaba: okay, rdiff-backup and cron should cover it all nicely, then
[04:41] <reisio> crocket: hrmm?
[04:41] <hallstein> hello, i'm having a problem with upgrading graphics driver on 12.04
[04:41] <crocket> reisio, You invoked me first.
[04:42] <reisio> crocket: you invoked me first
[04:42] <reisio> hallstein: what problem is that?
[04:42] <reisio> mojtaba: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Rdiff-backup s/emerge -atv/sudo apt-get install/
[04:43] <hallstein> the standard nvidia driver that comes with the system works fine, but upgrading to 3.19 results in the system failing to boot completely
[04:43] <wafflejock> failing to boot as in no GUI or failing to boot as in no command prompt?
[04:45] <hallstein> hmm, i'm not sure what information is most useful to you guys but what i'm currently looking at is a long list of... services? that either start or stop.
[04:46] <hallstein> example: starting userspace bootsplash followed by a bracketed OK
[04:46] <wafflejock> crocket: any details about how the NDIS wrapper issue has been resolved?  does the kernel just include drivers for most wireless chipsets now?
[04:46] <reisio> hallstein: ordinary boot splash
[04:46] <reisio> hallstein: what comes after that
[04:46] <wafflejock> so after all that hallestein you end up with a login prompt a splash screen or you're just stuck seeing the OK FAIL list
[04:46] <hallstein> I see the OK fail list
[04:47] <hallstein> and there is one that appears to have failed, the 'fallback graphics devices'
[04:47] <wafflejock> what's the last thing on screen?
[04:47] <wafflejock> like last OK FAIL row?
[04:47] <wafflejock> it doesn't sound good from here FYI
[04:47] <hallstein> the last two lines are: checking battery state OK and starting cups printing/spooler server OK
[04:48] <crocket> wafflejock, I don't know, but I guess more wireless cards are supported better than before.
[04:48] <fancyfetus> Hi guys. I ran into the same problem again.
[04:48] <fancyfetus> I press boot from USB in bios
[04:49] <fancyfetus> and i immediately get a black screen with a blinking cursor.
[04:49] <fancyfetus> The bios does recognize the USB as a bootable drive, but doesn't actually attempt to boot.
[04:49] <mojtaba> reisio: crocket: thanks
[04:49] <fancyfetus> I know this because the drive's light doesn't blink.
[04:50] <fancyfetus> I'm at a loss.
[04:50] <mojtaba> reisio: Can I use ubuntu server or is there any better distro for that?
[04:50] <fancyfetus> should i try booting from network or booting from dvd?
[04:50] <crocket> mojtaba, For what?
[04:50] <mojtaba> crocket: for backup over LAN
[04:52] <reisio> mojtaba: you can use any distro
[04:52] <reisio> mojtaba: if a distro has a "server" edition, that would probably be more appropriate, as it's essentially code for "no desktop"
[04:52] <reisio> mojtaba: as for rdiff-backup and cron, almost any ridiculously minimalist distro could manage that
[04:53] <reisio> mojtaba: in a Windows environment you might want a variety of software to help the system mesh, though, so don't go too crazy on minimalism :)
[04:53] <moneydouble> Anyone have any guides/links/tips/books on learning Linux, ubuntu specifically?
[04:53] <wafflejock> agree with resio, mojtaba any distro should do here
[04:54] <wafflejock> moneydouble it really depends on what you're looking to learn, general knowledge can be found on the ubuntu forums a lot of the time or simply by googling, in terms of books I've got a few but they mostly get out dated (good for fundamentals but not good to stay current)
[04:54] <wafflejock> moneydouble: what are you looking to learn about?
[04:55] <moneydouble> wafflejock: well server management basically
[04:55] <moneydouble> sys admin type stuff
[04:55] <UmbraChimera> so some adice/help?  Installed Lubuntu on old laptop I'm trying to fix for a family friend, it has no working cd drive, bios cant boot usb. Got it all installed, and now after a crash while updating wifi driver the mouse (touchpad and a usb one) won't function.
[04:56] <reisio> UmbraChimera: how'd you install it?
[04:56] <UmbraChimera> unetbootin, and it worked,
[04:56] <UmbraChimera> mouse even wored
[04:56] <UmbraChimera> *worked. until it crashed trying to update so wireless driver worked
[04:57] <reisio> hrmm, how does unetbootin help you install from not usb or cd?
[04:57] <hallstein> should i just wipe my drive and try 13.04 instead of 12.04? my problem has happened on a few occasions.
[04:57] <reisio> hallstein: which problem?
[04:57] <UmbraChimera> it makes a bootable on the C:/ dont need anything at all
[04:57] <hallstein> graphics driver results in operating system not booting, all i see is a OK/FAIL list.
[04:57] <hallstein> graphics driver update*
[04:57] <wafflejock> moneydouble: dunno about anything extremely authoritative honestly but I've been playing with t1.micro instances from AWS (free for the first year) and gives you a nice way to try things out on a "real" server if you need it and can't test things out in  virtual box otherwise, there's forums if you have specific questions like http://serverfault.com/
[04:57] <reisio> UmbraChimera: ah
[04:58] <reisio> UmbraChimera: make sure your update finished properly
[04:58] <UmbraChimera> already did all that
[04:58] <wafflejock> hallstein idk what to tell you honestly... if you have a NAS you can back up to you can use Clonezilla to take a snapshot of your system before installing the drivers so you can experiment some more, but hard to say what's going wrong or what will solve it
[04:58] <UmbraChimera> prior to mouse failire
[04:59] <hallstein> that's okay. i'll keep trying. thanks for the help.
[05:00] <wafflejock> moneydouble: are you looking to sys admin for web servers or some other type of setup? like backups or application servers... guess what I'm getting at is there's a ton of stuff you can learn about Linux and there's a ton of stuff you might be trying to do so giving any one resource probably isn't going to help you
[05:01] <wafflejock> hallstein: np sorry I don't have Ubuntu on my desktop with the Nvidia card so I can't really test any of the drivers right now.. just have my laptop with the lowly Intel graphics
[05:01] <dhyana> Hi
[05:01] <wafflejock> dhyana: hello
[05:01] <dhyana> Anyone from India
[05:01] <dhyana> Im a Indian
[05:01] <moneydouble> wafflejock: oh I see. Well, system admin for web servers mainly yeah. Like to manage a specific stack such as LAMP, LAMP(python)
[05:01] <moneydouble> etc
[05:02] <dhyana> Any other Indian ?
[05:02] <wafflejock> dhyana: how many generations can we go back :)
[05:02] <dhyana> wafflejock: Your indian. V
[05:02] <dhyana> ?
[05:02] <dhyana> From india I mean
[05:02] <wafflejock> no sorry Pakistani just joking, my Dad came from Pakistan and it was India when he was born there
[05:03] <wafflejock> moneydouble let me see what I can dig up, I do a lot of PHP/MySQL/Apache stuff (not so much into Python, but just haven't dug in)
[05:21] <hellyeah> hey
[05:21] <hellyeah> ubuntu 13.04 is bad in some aspect
[05:22] <reisio> hellyeah: k
[05:22] <hellyeah> hmm
[05:22] <qop> uhm. Question: In rpm based systems there is a way to kill and rebuild the  pkg db and reinstall the whole thing no questions asked, and that works to fix even the most ecrewed up installation. But is there any way to do that under dpkg based systems now? because I abandoned Debian years ago after dpkg got bugged, but since dpkg "never bugs" (aha... *rolls eyes), I spent months trying to fix stuff unsuccesfully and I am no newbie.
[05:23] <hellyeah> reisio:  you are here also :D
[05:23] <qop> and... I want to give Ubuntu a shot but before that I want to know if that is implemented now
[05:23] <reisio> qop: yes of course, with rm if you have to (doubt you do)
[05:23] <reisio> hellyeah: yes
[05:24] <qop> reisio: rm??
[05:24] <fancyfetus> I did it! Im installing ubuntu FINALLY!
[05:24] <jony_easyrider> if I install the 64 bit version of Ubuntu 12.04, I will have problems with drivers for the printer for example?
[05:24]  * qop refuse to get into a "omg dpkg is so awesome" discussion if that's what you mean
[05:25] <fancyfetus> I had to burn the iso to a damn dvd until my computer finally let me do it!
[05:25] <fancyfetus> I guess there is something wrong with my bios...
[05:33] <qin> jony_easyrider: You can test live cd/usb for this angle too, and most of standard printers have drivers, check on vendor site too.
[05:35] <smw94> anyone use ubuntu-tweak on 13.04 ?
[05:35] <wafflejock> fancyfetus: possibly not I've had mixed problems with USB installs sometimes has to do with the flash drive itself for whatever reason
[05:36] <fancyfetus> Its a pretty shitty flash drive. But i tried with another and had even worse tesults.
[05:36] <zombi> clear
[05:36] <smw94> ubuntu-tweak wont start on 13.04, any help ?
[05:37] <wafflejock> smw94 not sure honestly I think it was starting for me when I was on regular Ubuntu 13.04 (had upgraded with it installed) but I don't believe I actually tried using it beyond opening it
[05:37] <ozysimpson> Could some one please point me to a document or help me in Setting up RAID on an existing Ubuntu Machine, the machine only had 2TB hard drive, i saw my friends machine just die last week and lost most of his data, I am being little cautious here went and brought another disk 2TB now my ubuntu is able to see the disk, could some one tell me how to setup as RAID 1 mirror please
[05:38] <wafflejock> fancyfetus yeah I think most of the time it's easiest to just burn the DVD there is this program called multiboot though that lets you setup a flash drive with GRUB and multiple systems which is pretty cool, think I may play with that again when I have some time
[05:39] <smw94> wafflejock: ubuntu-tweak crashed after splash screen, here is error code
[05:39] <smw94> (ubuntu-tweak:4266): Gtk-ERROR **: GtkBox child GtkTreeView minimum width: -1 < 0 for height 359
[05:39] <smw94> Trace/breakpoint trap
[05:39] <fancyfetus> Ohh, sounds interesting! Good luck!
[05:39] <wafflejock> ozysimpson, someone may be able to help you here but I personally just run an external NAS for RAID I don't know that you can easily do this after installation
[05:39] <wafflejock> fancyfetus: thx!
[05:41] <ozysimpson> wafflejock, thanks for the reply, I remember reading a long time ago in the very same channel about this topic but i cant remember the exact steps and process to carry out
[05:41] <wafflejock> smw94: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak/+bug/1173839
[05:41] <Standon> Quelqun d'francais icitte!
[05:44] <qop> !fr
[05:45] <TheLordOfTime> !crosspost | ozysimpson
[05:46] <wafflejock> ozysimpson: I assume you already checked out the main docs here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID then there's a page here about how to do it on an existing server http://zackreed.me/articles/38-software-raid-5-in-debian-with-mdadm
[05:47] <wafflejock> ozysimpson: granted as I said I've never tried this and have no idea if it will work so you may want to do some studying and tests using VirtualBox or otherwise before giving it a go
[05:47] <farbod> hi
[05:48] <wafflejock> farbod: hello
[05:48] <farbod> im new in linux ubuntu
[05:49] <wafflejock> farbod: welcome, new to linux or new to ubuntu?
[05:50] <hellyeah> haha
[05:50] <hellyeah> ubuntu 13.04 is real fast btw
[05:50] <hellyeah> i like this fast os
[05:50] <ubuntu-gnome> oh yeah
[05:51] <ubuntu-gnome> installing 13.10 beta1 right now
[05:51] <hellyeah> 13.10 is on the way oh damn
[05:51] <wafflejock> don't do it step back from the ledge man
[05:51] <hellyeah> i just installed ubuntu 13.04 recently
[05:51] <ubuntu-gnome> anybody know what those 'http' processes are during install?
[05:51] <hellyeah> :D
[05:51] <ubuntu-gnome> vty'ed out into an irssi window
[05:52] <hellyeah> also in the web site i didnt see  ubuntu 13.10
[05:52] <ubuntu-gnome> but watching everything it's trying to do
[05:52] <gal> Hello, i am trying to run WebEx on Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, i have done some reading but i found mostly old posts saying its not supported and i need to download JDK from sun and 32 bit Firefox and so on... isnt there a better easier way to do it ?
[05:53] <ubuntu-gnome> gal: it's probably doable, but you'll have much better luck with 13.04 as a desktop OS (WebEx and Skype come to mind)
[05:54] <wafflejock> gal: just did a bit of googling not privvy on the topic but it seems 64bit and WebEx is a no go because of Java/Firefox 32-bit versions don't work out
[05:54] <gal> ok thanks you two :|
[05:55] <ubuntu-gnome> the best answer is not to use webex (I worked for Cisco, ugh), but it can be done.  I've avoided it like the plague since I left.
[05:55] <wafflejock> ubuntu-gnome you know anything about Asterisk?
[05:56] <gal> what other desktop sharing would you use for multi users conference ? (the only other option i know is Skype which is free)
[05:56] <gal> but i never did a multi users sharing session with skype
[05:56] <wafflejock> gal: I've been using hangouts which has been nice
[05:56] <wafflejock> gal: has built in screensharing
[05:56] <hellyeah> can you tell me any good games on ubuntu
[05:56] <wafflejock> works for everyone... as long as they can get the plugin installed, also some problems with laptops coming out of sleep mode
[05:57] <wafflejock> hellyeah: check out steam store
[05:57] <gal> wafflejock: will check that out, thanks
[05:57] <wafflejock> hellyeah: if you want something native check out supertux
[05:57] <wafflejock> gal: yeah to clarify I mean Google hangouts
[05:58] <gal> yeah... thats the first search ... obviously.. :)
[05:58] <wafflejock> gal: oh I mean it's a product by Google... damn google being a verb :)
[05:58] <hellyeah> supertux is pengnuen game isnt it?
[05:58] <wafflejock> hellyeah: yeah like mario
[05:59] <wafflejock> hellyeah: team fortress is good on steam, or kerbal space program is pretty fun
[05:59] <gal> wafflejock : yeah i understand, i searched it up in google and that was the first match.. ;) (and i guess its obvious since its by Google...)
[05:59] <hellyeah> i played that game like 7 years ago
[05:59] <wafflejock> gal: ah gotcha
[05:59] <wafflejock> hellyeah: it's still good :)
[05:59] <hellyeah> i dont have any idea about what steam is is it like stream
[06:00] <wafflejock> hellyeah: steam is a marketplace by the company Valve
[06:00] <hellyeah> hmm
[06:00] <hellyeah> are games free? :D
[06:00] <wafflejock> hellyeah: they're a huge platform for distributing games on Windows and OS X just came to Linux recently
[06:00] <wafflejock> hellyeah: not usually, some demos though
[06:00] <wafflejock> hellyeah: some free to play where you can buy stuff in game to "enhance the experience"
[06:00] <wafflejock> haha
[06:01] <hellyeah> hahaha
[06:01] <Kartagis> how do I change the language? it turned to Japanese and I can't read it
[06:01] <wafflejock> basically Steam is the reason for Windows Arcade on XBox and the marketplace on every other console though it's pretty big stuff and cool to have it come to Linux, still lots of Indie games only though
[06:01] <hellyeah> capitalism took over ubuntu may be :ÇD
[06:02] <hellyeah> indie games like what
[06:02] <wafflejock> Kartagis: what turned Japanese?
[06:02] <Kartagis> wafflejock: the whole OS
[06:02] <wafflejock> idk one minute I just installed kubuntu here so don't have steam
[06:03] <ozysimpson> Tm_T, you here :-)
[06:03] <wafflejock> hellyeah: http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/
[06:03] <Kartagis> wafflejock: http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/3769/3cbe.png
[06:04] <wafflejock> wow
[06:04] <reisio> Kartagis: you speak sci-fi? :p
[06:05] <Kartagis> reisio: nope, why?
[06:05] <wafflejock> Kartagis: 13.04?
[06:05] <Kartagis> wafflejock: yep
[06:05] <wafflejock> my roommates gf is Japanese but not here right now
[06:05] <reisio> it doesn't like, drive you crazy to use a UI designed for a LTR, TTB language with a language evolved as TTB, RTL?
[06:05] <wafflejock> http://askubuntu.com/questions/289098/change-language-in-ubuntu-13-04
[06:06] <Kartagis> reisio: no, but still...
[06:06] <reisio> drives me crazy, and I don't even read any CJK
[06:06] <param> Hello Channel !!! Facing a issue !! Ubuntu 12.04 not detecting windows 7 os during installation
[06:06] <universal> how to enable sources from cli ?
[06:06] <reisio> I s'pose you could xrandr rotate it :)
[06:06] <reisio> would still be wrong, though
[06:06] <wafflejock> anyone know how to open the system settings from command line
[06:07] <wafflejock> if so you can do a ctrl+alt+t to get a terminal
[06:07] <reisio> wafflejock: ls /usr/bin/*setting* /usr/bin/*system*
[06:07] <wafflejock> then type the command for the system settings
[06:07] <reisio> oh...
[06:07] <Kartagis> which one is "apply system-wide"? the first from the top?
[06:07] <wafflejock> yeah
[06:07] <wafflejock> http://askubuntu.com/questions/289190/how-to-change-system-language
[06:07] <param> Ubuntu 12.04 not detecting windows 7 os during installation
[06:08] <wafflejock> param: simply ignore this problem :)
[06:08] <wafflejock> param:j/k btw
[06:08] <Kartagis> brb
[06:08] <param> j/k betwen ? means?  if i continue it will remove my windows
[06:09] <wafflejock> oh just kidding by the way
[06:09] <wafflejock> sorry went acroynm crazy there
[06:09] <wafflejock> don't do that
[06:09] <wafflejock> I was just kidding I was saying you can wipe out windows who cares, but you probably do
[06:10] <wafflejock> I'm not sure why that would be I dual booted 12.04 and Windows 8 for a while
[06:10] <param> i want the windows
[06:10] <param> any solution 4 it ?
[06:11] <universal> how to enable sources from cli ?
[06:11] <universal> universe and multiverse
[06:12] <aeon-ltd> !multiverse
[06:12] <reisio> param: pastebin /sbin/blkid, /etc/fstab, and /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[06:12] <universal> and pre-released and proposed updates under updates tab also from cli ?
[06:12] <dhyana> Hi param
[06:12] <Kartagis> it seems I had to reboot rather than logout/login
[06:12] <aeon-ltd> universal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[06:12] <param> hey dhyana
[06:13] <wafflejock> Kartagis: so no more japanese?
[06:13] <Kartagis> yeah, thanks
[06:13] <wafflejock> universal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[06:14] <wafflejock> Kartagis: cool np I hate it when that happens :)
[06:14] <Kartagis> wafflejock: it would be no problem if only I could read it
[06:14] <wafflejock> Kartagis: we just need google glass and translate combined
[06:19] <hellyeah> damn
[06:20] <kriskropd> are any of you familiar with wkhtmltopdf and know if there is a newer alternative to it? I'm trying to use wkhtmltopdf but it has so many rendering problems on various pages; it's old
[06:23] <wafflejock> kriskropd: is the goal to just convert HTML pages to PDF or does it need to be automated?
[06:23] <wafflejock> kridkropd: if you're just doing a couple you can print to file as PDF
[06:25] <kriskropd> wafflejock: its going in a script, so yeah, needs to be automated
[06:25] <kriskropd> wafflejock: I'm trying htmldoc right now and if i have to get really creative I might try somethign with curl-pdf and xvfb
[06:27] <wafflejock> kriskropd: all I can tell yah is I know phantomJS is very popular for doing headless webkit stuff with web developers
[06:27] <wafflejock> kriskropd: not sure how difficult or possible it would be to use it for your situation though
[06:28] <wafflejock> https://github.com/ariya/phantomjs/wiki/Screen-Capture
[06:28] <nuf0xx> o/
[06:28] <nuf0xx> nfs help here please (linux)
[06:28] <nuf0xx> i have two directories listed in exports. I can only mount the one that is listed first
[06:28] <nuf0xx>  when i swap them it mounts the other directory fine
[06:28] <nuf0xx> it seem the exportfs only exports the first entry.
[06:28] <FloodBot1> nuf0xx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:29] <kriskropd> thanks wafflejock I'll look at that some more tomorrow - I'm running on empty for tonight though
[06:29] <wafflejock> kriskropd: np best of luck
[06:29] <kriskropd> I won't be surprised if I have to use javascript to do what I want XD
[06:30] <nuf0xx> sorry FloodBot1, you're a good bot
[06:49] <Wiz_KeeD> !skype
[06:53] <nerdtron> !Ekiga | nerdtron
[06:56] <helmut_> hi
[06:56] <reisio> hi
[06:57] <IamTrying> http://beagleboard.org/Products/BeagleBoard-xM - Can i install Ubuntu 13.04 /13.10 with kernel 3.11.x on this board?
[06:58] <djleniuch> hello
[07:00] <reisio> IamTrying: I believe arm a7 and higher are supported
[07:00] <reisio> IamTrying: #ubuntu-arm
[07:00] <IamTrying> reisio, OK thank you
[07:00] <bazhang> IamTrying, ask in #ubuntu-arm
[07:01] <reisio> he really was trying
[07:01]  * reisio tears up
[07:02]  * wilee-nilee offers reisio a tissue.
[07:02] <reisio> wilee-nilee: ...with aloe?
[07:02] <wilee-nilee> always ;)
[07:03] <reisio> nice, thanks
[07:04] <Xavier89> hi
[07:04] <Xavier89> how do I mount an iso with read permissions for the user ?
[07:05] <wilee-nilee> Xavier89, For?
[07:11] <bazhang> !iso | Xavier89
[07:14] <Xavier89> bazhang, yes but then only root can read
[07:16] <Guest51522> So IRC is a chatroom.
[07:17] <Guest51522> Anybody here?
[07:17] <Guest51522> It's the first time for you to use IRC.
[07:18] <perotin> there's a whole list of us 51522.  sup
[07:19] <Guest51522> LOL
[07:19] <Guest51522> OK
[07:22] <jackie_> now what
[07:22] <jackie_> Ok, registered successfully.
[07:46] <wachira> bluetooth manager keeps on crashing on my xubuntu any help
[08:00] <abailarri> Hola. Estoy tratando de usar el comando scp pero me devuelve un error de que no tengo permisos, pero en ningun momento me pide la contraseña. Alguien me puede orientar?
[08:00] <tasslehoff> I've just hooked up a dual-monitor setup with two monitors of the same type. The brightness on the primary is higher than on the secondary with the same monitor settings.
[08:00] <cfhowlett> !es|abailarri,
[08:05] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i need help
[08:05] <Psil0Cybin> when ever i try and dowwnload large files
[08:05] <Psil0Cybin> my internet connection drops, while it says im still connected wifi
[08:06] <Psil0Cybin> on other computers the internet connection is fine, and using a live cd the internet connection is fine
[08:06] <Psil0Cybin> so it means something is hay wire on my machine but i dont want to format.
[08:06] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, first, stop thinking every error means "quick!  format the computer!"
[08:07] <Psil0Cybin> i dont just smoeone suggested that here last night if the live cd worked
[08:07] <Psil0Cybin> because i googled and googled and tried everything i found on the ubuntu forums
[08:07] <Psil0Cybin> but nothing fixed it for me
[08:07] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, depending on your network setup, it's possible that there's a setting somewhere to that is throttling your download pipeline
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> how can i go about diagnosing it
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> because it all started when i installed samba
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> before that it was working amazing
[08:08] <reisio> how exactly are you comparing the connection on a live OS?
[08:08] <reisio> are you downloading the same file?
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> yup
[08:08] <reisio> to the hard disk?
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> on the live os i can download it to my USB
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> although it takes years
[08:08] <reisio> years?
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> but on my conection its fast but after 10 minutes it drops
[08:09] <reisio> maybe your hard disk is just incredibly slow
[08:09] <reisio> and your connection speed is nice and fast
[08:09] <Psil0Cybin> yea but prior to installing samba (which i was told would never cause this) it was working amazing
[08:09] <Psil0Cybin> and right now i can talk to you guys
[08:09] <reisio> ah, well
[08:09] <reisio> simple then
[08:09] <Psil0Cybin> but the second i try and download any big file
[08:09] <Psil0Cybin> it drops
[08:09] <cfhowlett> *years?*
[08:09] <Psil0Cybin> but!!!
[08:09] <reisio> undo whatever installing samba did
[08:09] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:09] <Psil0Cybin> but if i tether my phone i can download the big file!! so i deleted all preferences for my Wifi
[08:10] <Psil0Cybin> and still nothing
[08:10] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, yeah, I'd agree with reisio.  samba is supsect.
[08:10] <cfhowlett> suspect
[08:10] <Psil0Cybin> so i know my wifi is working fine, i know my wifi card is working, i think maybe samba messed up my networking
[08:10] <Psil0Cybin> or something
[08:10] <Psil0Cybin> because it only happends on this specific network but other computers can download it file
[08:10] <Psil0Cybin> so its not my roater / modem even tho i power cycled.
[08:10] <Psil0Cybin> anyway
[08:11] <Psil0Cybin> if you google ubuntu internet drops
[08:11] <Psil0Cybin> there are plenty of posts but nothing helps me
[08:11] <Psil0Cybin> like its mind boggling cfhowlett its like, the forces of nature are against me
[08:11] <Psil0Cybin> my other ubuntu machine works perfectly fine on the same network
[08:12] <Psil0Cybin> maybe ill try changing my netork name
[08:12] <Psil0Cybin> i tried doing sudo apt-get remove samba
[08:13] <Psil0Cybin> and sudo apt-get purge samba
[08:14] <Psil0Cybin> i thought maybe it was a power management issue so i ran acouple of commands that someone posted on the forums like ifdown ...etc.etc, but that also did not fix anything
[08:14] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, sudo apt-get purge samba
[08:14] <wafflejock> Psil0Cybin: not sure if it will help but you can check out wireshark gives traces of all the packets on the network perhaps something suspect will pop up before the failure
[08:14] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, also, if you haven't done so recently, time to sudo apt-get update &&  sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:15] <Psil0Cybin> everything is upto date cfhowlett
[08:15] <Psil0Cybin> :( im so confused
[08:15] <Psil0Cybin> god damit >.<
[08:15] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, fair enough.  I say purge and rebuild samba ...
[08:15] <Psil0Cybin> i didnt think samba could cause such a mess.
[08:15] <Psil0Cybin> so sudo apt-get install samba?
[08:16] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, after purging, right
[08:16] <Psil0Cybin> yea okay
[08:16] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[08:16] <Psil0Cybin> installing
[08:17] <Psil0Cybin> like its wierd i notice that now i can talk to you guys and no dropping so its only with a big download and on this specific network (but other cmoputers can download big files off this network no problem)
[08:17] <Psil0Cybin> isnt that a head scratcher.
[08:17] <Psil0Cybin> okay samba installed lemme try downloading the file again
[08:17] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, as I said, somewhere there's a setting that limits downloadable files ...
[08:18] <Psil0Cybin> how would i go about finding that
[08:18] <Psil0Cybin> i am semi new to linux i guess you can obviously tell.
[08:18] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, don't beat yourself up.  we all started as noobs.  As for where to look: no samba, no knowledge.  sorry
[08:19] <Psil0Cybin> its okay man
[08:19] <Psil0Cybin> im going to keep trying before i format
[08:19] <Psil0Cybin> thats how ill learn anyways ;)
[08:19] <wafflejock> Psil0Cybin: you can also check out netstat may be helpful as well to see what's running http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-network-troubleshooting-tips.html also not sure about details of samba though best of luck
[08:19] <Psil0Cybin> no problem thanks guys
[08:19] <Psil0Cybin> you are a very helpful bunch of people :0
[08:19] <gal> Hello if i have windows vm (my host is Ubuntu 12.04) using Vmware player, will i be able to share my Ubuntu desktop ? (in case of WebEx for example)
[08:20] <reisio> gal: why wouldn't you be able to...
[08:20] <wafflejock> gal: I don't think you can
[08:20] <cfhowlett> gal, yes with a bridged network ... at least yes in virtualbox ...
[08:20] <wafflejock> reisio: I think gal is saying share the host from the slave
[08:20] <reisio> could do that, too, but it'd be pointless
[08:21] <wafflejock> not if you want people to be able to view your Ubuntu desktop but have to run WebEx in the VM
[08:21] <reisio> you could, it'd just be silly
[08:21] <reisio> gal: what's the VM for?
[08:21] <Wiz_KeeD> when using the compiled library wkhtmltopdf (static version) should it be placed in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin, and what is the difference between the two?
[08:21] <reisio> just that?
[08:22] <reisio> Wiz_KeeD: /usr/local/bin/ is traditional for things the package manager doesn't control
[08:22] <gal> reisio : the bm is used to support WebEx which is not supported in ubuntu 64 bit as i understood here
[08:22] <gal> vm
[08:22] <reisio> Wiz_KeeD: you can place it anywhere, though, and modify your PATH accordingly
[08:22] <Wiz_KeeD> so it would be wise ti place it there
[08:22] <Wiz_KeeD> They are both loaded up as equals i'm guessing?
[08:22] <reisio> gal: what do you need webex for?
[08:22] <reisio> Wiz_KeeD: echo $PATH
[08:23] <wafflejock> Wiz_KeeD: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/8656/usr-bin-vs-usr-local-bin-on-linux
[08:23] <gal> thats how we work here for video/chat conference :)
[08:23] <reisio> Wiz_KeeD: there's an order
[08:23] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you reisio !
[08:23] <gal> Why you have any other idea reisio?
[08:24] <reisio> https://support.webex.com/webex/v1.1/support/en_US/rn/system_rn.htm
[08:24] <reisio> says it supports linux
[08:24] <gal> Not Ubuntu 12.04, 64bit.... :(
[08:24] <reisio> according to?
[08:24] <wafflejock> reisio: gal was discussing earlier has 64bit the Firefox/java install has to be 32 bit
[08:24] <wafflejock> Google says so
[08:24] <reisio> so use 32-bit
[08:24] <reisio> firefox/java, that is
[08:24] <wafflejock> can't in 64-bit Linux
[08:25] <reisio> sure you can
[08:25] <gal> Well if the windows vm trick that would be much simpler :)
[08:25] <reisio> don't be silly
[08:25] <wafflejock> some issue with Java 32 bit for some reason
[08:25] <wafflejock> I know it sounds silly
[08:25] <reisio> "simpler" :)
[08:25] <reisio> gal: okay, well
[08:25] <reisio> you could vnc or rdp your host into your guest
[08:25] <reisio> and that'd like, work
[08:25] <reisio> but it'd be silly
[08:25] <wafflejock> gal: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9393670/how-to-run-a-32bit-jvm-on-a-64bit-linux maybe this helps and you can avoid that craziness
[08:26] <reisio> slightly less work if you used a seamless mode ready VM solution, I s'pose
[08:26] <wafflejock> reisio: had the same though about vnc but wouldn't that be like pointing a camera at itself
[08:26] <wafflejock> might be cool....
[08:26] <reisio> only if it were
[08:26] <reisio> you don't actually need to run the graphical output of a guest on any particular X session
[08:26] <reisio> or indeed at all
[08:27] <wafflejock> true true, but then you lose the camera effect :)
[08:27] <reisio> it would look cool, though
[08:27] <reisio> do it :p
[08:27] <wafflejock> haha
[08:28] <deSouza> anyone here?
[08:28] <wafflejock> deSouza: no
[08:28] <cfhowlett> deSouza, only a few hundred.
[08:28] <deSouza> so
[08:28] <deSouza> i have a dual boot with fedora
[08:29] <deSouza> i updated my ubuntu
[08:29] <gal> ok thanks all :) going to try it out
[08:29] <wafflejock> I'm here you're there... unless you're here too (jaws music)
[08:29] <deSouza> and now the grub wont show my fedora kernels
[08:29] <wafflejock> gal: good luck
[08:29] <cfhowlett> deSouza, update grub
[08:29] <cfhowlett> !grub|deSouza,
[08:37] <hiemanshu> Hey guys, anyone here uses awesome?
[08:38] <hiemanshu> Need to install it, but repos only have 3.4 and the latest is 3.5
[08:44] <DesignerX> hi
[08:45] <DesignerX> I'm reying to create a "ubuntu persistent live usb"  .. Where can I find more info about the "Virtual Harddrive" that is used to store the data/changes ?
[08:45] <DesignerX> trying *
[08:46] <MonkeyDust> !persistent | DesignerX start here
[08:47] <DesignerX> Thank guys .. I already had a look at these but i'm looking for a more "Manual" way of doing it and more info regarding "how it works" not just how to install it
[08:48] <DesignerX> for example, Puppy Slacko looks for  slackosave  file name & save data to it, how does ubuntu know where to save the changes ?
[08:50] <DesignerX> ubottu: on most guides & blogs it requires a "parition" to save the changes.. can these be changed to a file/VirtualHarddrive ?
[08:56] <ht3k> Hey guys, anyone know how I can get Ubuntu to detect my fakeraid (bios) RAID 1? It has detected a previous one I had but I just got two more drives to put in RAID 1 but Ubuntu doesn't recognize them like it did before.
[08:56] <jnhghy> Is there a way to make a file "Run" by default? I changed it's mode to executable but when I start it it asks me how I like the file to start: "Run in terminal", "Display file", "Cancel" and "Run" I want it to Run by default.
[08:57] <reisio> it asks you each time?
[08:58] <jnhghy> reisio: yes
[08:58] <mieczyslaf> hey guys, is there possibility to move side panel do bottom of a screen in 13.04?
[08:58] <jnhghy> reisio: it is a .py file but I get the message: file.py is an executable text file.
[08:59] <DesignerX> mieczyslaf: hi, i'm not expert at this but  I think if you looking for a windows like Linux then use Linux Mint ? its Ubuntu with KDE I think
[09:00] <mieczyslaf> DesignerX: i've got cinnamon and i have kde but it isn't it
[09:00] <reisio> jnhghy: has it got a shebang?
[09:02] <jnhghy> reisio: yes it has
[09:02] <somsip> mieczyslaf: no, it's not
[09:03] <mieczyslaf> just like i think so...
[09:03] <ptl> hi people. I am trying to dpkg-buildpackage / debuild a package and I am getting this error: dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to repsnapper-0+git20120902.349ce298/libraries/vmmlib/LICENSE: error:   new version is plain file error:   old version is symlink to include/vmmlib/LICENSE ---- how can I fix it?
[09:05] <nerdtron> mieczyslaf, that is also what i want to do in unity, i want the launcher to be at the bottom
[09:06] <dakta> nerdtron, mieczyslaf: AFAIK there is/was a third-party replacement for the Unity Launcher package that had the ability to place it on the bottom.
[09:07] <mieczyslaf> nerdtron: me too, and i don't know how to do it. i know that in 120.04 was a possibility to do it, but as i know in 13.04 there is no such option
[09:07] <dakta> nerdtron mieczyslaf: AFAIK the Ubuntu team has stated that they will not support placing the launcher on the bottom.
[09:07] <nerdtron> dakta, mieczyslaf, i think it is called ubuntu-tweak..when i installed 13.04, it is not supported yet...but now i think it is
[09:08] <dakta> mieczyslaf nerdtron: again, the option to do this does not exist in the system package for the launcher; whether or not the third party replacement is available depends on the exact version pf ubuntu.
[09:08] <dakta> I haven't tried. I have enough tweaked stuff on my ubuntu install...
[09:09] <deSouza> i have a dual boot fedora-ubuntu, so i upgraded my ubuntu and lost my grub where the fedora kernels appeared
[09:09] <dakta> For example, the filesystem/browser not supporting a list-style folder display mode. Who thought it was a good idea to remove that? Are they trying to make their software unusable on smaller screens, or by power users?
[09:13] <nerdtron> deSouza, in ubuntu try to update grub. sudo update-grub
[09:20] <g0t_r00t> hi there
[09:20] <deSouza> nerdtron: didn't work
[09:20] <deSouza> in fact, it was by updating grub that it screwed up my stuff
[09:21] <g0t_r00t> i have a question about thin client and ubuntu server.... where can i find good resources on this?
[09:22] <abc> I have Ubuntu iso on sdb, when I boot it via GRUB2 it stops at initramfs, because it looks for the iso into sda instead of sdb... how can I fix this?
[09:22] <nerdtron> g0t_r00t, what setup are you tryign to acheive?
[09:22] <g0t_r00t> nerdtron I want to implement this in a school They have existing HP thin client hardware
[09:23] <ikonia> g0t_r00t: look up ltsp
[09:23] <g0t_r00t> nertron thank you i will look it up
[09:23] <karab44> hi
[09:23] <kilonux> Hello, I   need help to reinstall all printing software from scratch on my 12.04 .  It never worked, and I've tried to uninstall gs and install the older version (ghostscript-8.71), I also had to reinstall Cups...
[09:23] <nerdtron> abc, i'm not quite sure but i think you can temporarily edit grub entries when you are in the GRUB menu...i think you press e to edit
[09:24] <ferrieres> hello everybody !
[09:24] <karab44> how to record desktop activity to a video (av) on ubuntu?
[09:24] <nerdtron> karab44, have you searched record my desktop?
[09:25] <ferrieres> I have a global "slow" problem and dont know where this come from... it's been two weeks since it began to come sever
[09:25] <karab44> nerdtron: I can not see such thing, is it the name of application?
[09:25] <nerdtron> yup.. in the software center, try searching record my desktop
[09:25] <ferrieres> i mean every process is getting slow...
[09:25] <karab44> nerdtron: thank you mate
[09:25] <nerdtron> there are also other programs.. i'm only familiar with record my desktop
[09:26] <ferrieres> for example, i try now to update and this takes 70% of one core (seen with htop)
[09:26] <MonkeyDust> karab44  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts
[09:26] <nerdtron> ferrieres, which process is it?
[09:26] <ferrieres> it was not the case since last update but i dont want to downgrade
[09:27] <ferrieres> the process : apt-update
[09:27] <karab44> MonkeyDust: thanks a lot! I see that record my desktop is good enough (if it records system sound and mic also)
[09:27] <ferrieres> now, the update is finished, it's python that takes 70%
[09:28] <ferrieres> with a file named update-apt-xapian...
[09:29] <nerdtron> ferrieres, have you tried killing it?
[09:29] <ferrieres> another example : htop (on a tty, no X stuff here) is taking 40%
[09:30] <ferrieres> The problem is not killing all process ... it's a question of why does EVERY process takes 10 times what they should use (or what WAS the use before the dist-upgrade) of CPU
[09:31] <ferrieres> nerdtron : i want to use the laptop for working and cannot if i'm to kill all process whenever they used too much CPU...
[09:31] <gordonjcp> ferrieres: if everything is reporting 10 times as much CPU usage, I'd suspect the way you measure CPU usage
[09:31] <gordonjcp> ferrieres: after you do an update there's a bunch of stuff that needs to be re-indexed, which can take some time
[09:31] <ferrieres> i'm not, i just report what htop tells me
[09:32] <gordonjcp> ferrieres: you can always just remove xapian
[09:32] <MonkeyDust> what's xapian?
[09:32] <ferrieres> it's not 'just after', it's been two weeks of every day use , i thought first that was because of the x server
[09:33] <ferrieres> (i got an ATI Radeon GPU which is known to be slow with the latest version of kernel modules)
[09:33] <ferrieres> what is xapian ?
[09:33] <ferrieres> ok, i man the stuff
[09:35] <ferrieres> gordon jcp : i really mean it : every manipulation is taking 10 times what it was a few weeks ago...
[09:36] <farbod> hi
[09:36] <farbod> i buy gta v today
[09:36] <farbod> its to good
[09:36] <farbod> i have a qustion?
[09:36] <farbod> help me
[09:36] <neal__> can i reset my user password if i don't know what is it?
[09:36] <neal__> it is*
[09:37] <farbod> helpppppppppppppp
[09:37] <[FreeBSD]> farbod: if its wether gta5 will work in wine... i doubt it lol
[09:37] <DJones> farbod: You have to ask the question first
[09:37] <farbod> i want a proxy:D
[09:37] <[FreeBSD]> for what, irc?
[09:37] <farbod> how can i install it?
[09:37] <ferrieres> ok, xapian is not a bash command... but 'locate' it gives plenty of files... i try to see in the apt-cache and dpkg -l to see what it's alla bout... i also go lunching... bye
[09:37] <MonkeyDust> !details | farbod
[09:37] <[FreeBSD]> farbod: too vague
[09:38] <[FreeBSD]> farbod: proxy for what,
[09:38] <farbod> i need a proxy to open some webs
[09:38] <[FreeBSD]> you're not making much sense
[09:38] <farbod> can you help me?
[09:38] <DJones> farbod: Proxies aren't something the channel offers, maybe ask in #freenode the people there may be able to point you at a channel that can help with proxies
[09:39] <ferrieres> dpkg -l gives uninstall packages so it's not supposed to be installled ... don't know what process needs it... looking forward, i'll be back..
[09:40] <nerdtron> neal__, yes you can
[09:47] <Wiz_KeeD> Hello everyone, untaring this "wkhtmltopdf-0.9.9-static-amd64.tar.bz2" and placing it in /usr/local/bin with the name wkhtmltopdf owner root:root should work right?
[09:47] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: depends what it's doing
[09:47] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: and what it needs, can't say anything without more information
[09:48] <Wiz_KeeD> serving the purpose of transforming html to pdf for a reporting engine of a framework, I have usually done this before, just pasting it in there and working but now it seems to just give out the help information
[09:49] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: again, if it works will depend on what it needs, so can't say without more info
[09:49] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: try it and work through problems.
[09:50] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: will putting ikonias_logging_app.tar.gz into /opt/bin with owner ikonia:users work ?
[09:50] <Wiz_KeeD> where is that tar from and what purpose will that serve?
[09:50] <Wiz_KeeD> I got from the framework the error...
[09:51] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: exactly, you have no idea, so asking people who have no idea if that will work with no information is impossible to answer
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> report_webkit.webkit_report: cannot remove file /tmp/webkit.tmp.vBklRa.pdf: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/webkit.tmp.vBklRa.pdf'
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> probably because it couldn't work in the first place
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, good one! respect! :))
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> I didn't see that comming, too blind-sighted for it
[09:52] <karab44> I am just wondering is removing /tmp/ content safe?
[09:52] <ikonia> karab44: /tmp is tempory data, so if nothing is using it, sure
[09:52] <karab44> good news
[09:52] <karab44> thanks :)
[09:58] <disdi> I am intentionally trying to crash my ubuntu kernel to analyze the crash dump but nothing seems to work....any suggesstions
[09:58] <disdi> ?
[09:59] <ikonia> disdi: just enable sysrq
[09:59] <deSouza> nerdtron: any suggestions
[10:00] <nerdtron> deSouza, about what?
[10:00] <nerdtron> oh..sorry, have you tried booting into fedora and installing grub from fedora?
[10:01] <disdi> ikonia: did that
[10:02] <ikonia> disdi: ok, so that will hang the kernel/pause it and take a dump
[10:02] <ikonia> disdi: job done
[10:02] <deSouza> last time it happened I had to boot with fedora
[10:02] <disdi> ikonia:I did that and then presses SYSrq + C
[10:02] <deSouza> but I lost all my data
[10:02] <disdi> ikonia:kernel hangs but does not reboot
[10:03] <deSouza> what do you mean booting into fedora? using the liveos
[10:03] <ikonia> disdi: you need to reboot to get it to reboot
[10:03] <disdi> ikonia: they say it would reboot automatically
[10:03] <disdi> ?
[10:03] <ikonia> disdi: who is they ?
[10:03] <disdi> ikonia: the ubuntu wiki
[10:04] <nerdtron> deSouza, you're using lvm in fedora?
[10:04] <gr33n7007h> echo c > /proc/sysrq-trigger
[10:04] <ikonia> disdi: you need to reboot it
[10:04] <deSouza> lvm?
[10:04] <disdi> ikonia: after that I do not find the vmcore file in /var/crash ?
[10:04] <nerdtron> i think by default when you install fedora it will assume you're going to use lvm right?
[10:05] <disdi> ikonia: though a .crash file is there
[10:05] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, in order to use the static library of wkhtmltopdf for ubuntu 12.04 64bit are these dependencies required as this user/post and others suggest? sudo apt-get install openssl build-essential xorg libssl-dev
[10:05] <Wiz_KeeD> http://wingdspur.com/2012/12/installing-wkhtmltopdf-on-ubuntu/
[10:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ok ?
[10:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: what do you want me to do about it ?
[10:06] <nerdtron> deSouza, sudo apt-get install lvm2 in ubuntu then try to update grub...if that doesn't do anything, i'm out of advice
[10:06] <deSouza> ok
[10:06] <disdi> ikonia: help me
[10:06] <disdi> ?
[10:06] <Wiz_KeeD> are they required? I don't want to install unnecesairy libraries, I got the idea from some articles that just 32bit systems would require them
[10:06] <Wiz_KeeD> I could be wrong
[10:06] <disdi> ikonia: help me ?
[10:06] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: how do I know if they are required ? I didn't write the software ?
[10:06] <Wiz_KeeD> should it be ok if i install it?
[10:06] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: if the documentation says it's required - then who am I to argue
[10:07] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: although build essential seems agressive
[10:07] <ikonia> disdi: I'm sorry, help you with what ?
[10:07] <disdi> ikonia: help me ?
[10:07] <ikonia> disdi: just saying "help me" isn't going to get very far
[10:07] <Wiz_KeeD> I see some extra packages including dpgk something, i chose no when i saw that
[10:07] <deSouza> its already latest version
[10:07] <disdi> .crash is there in /var/crash/ but no vmcore file
[10:07] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: what are you actually trying to do ?
[10:07] <ikonia> disdi: have you got kdump setup ?
[10:08] <disdi> I did sudo apt-get linux-crashdump
[10:08] <disdi> ikonia:I did sudo apt-get linux-crashdump....it thought  it would have done the rest
[10:09] <ikonia> disdi: I do'nt know what's in the that package, you'll need to check
[10:09] <deSouza> nerdtron: last time it happened someone said ubuntu had screwed with something, which I forgot what it was. But related to the grub. I had to reconstruct it or something.
[10:09] <disdi> ikonia:then too after crash vmcore should have been there
[10:10] <disdi> ikonia:even if kdmp is not there
[10:10] <ikonia> disdi: as I said, I don't know what's in that package, you'll need to check
[10:10] <ikonia> disdi: you'll need "something" to dump the running kernel vmcore
[10:10] <disdi> ikonia:so should I also always need kdump right?
[10:10] <karab44> recordmyDesktop is very nice app, but it's a bit pitty it doesn't offer multithread encoding. All operations made on one core makes it a bit slow.
[10:11] <disdi> ikonia:i will check in the package if its thr
[10:11] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, I use a python erp framework that has a reporting engine installed which requires wkhtmltopdf to work.I have it installed on two other systems but for my case on local doing what I did in the others (just copy the untared version of wkhtmltopdf static) changing owner to root doesn't work and the framework prints out the default message you get when you type "wkhtmltopdf" in the console instead of printint the report
[10:11] <disdi> ikonia:so should I also always need kdump right?
[10:12] <Wiz_KeeD> Also spits out this error: http://pastie.org/8329720
[10:13] <ikonia> disdi: you'll need something, yes
[10:13] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ok, so you're passing an invalid argument and as such the file is probably not generated in /tmp
[10:14] <Wiz_KeeD> The thing is the same database on the other system works fine, it could be that it's passing the wrong argument but since i havn't changed anything I would suspect the library having an issue or something...i'll need to investiage further
[10:14] <deSouza> nerdtron: updating grub screwed my mbr
[10:14] <deSouza> so now i need to rewrite it
[10:15] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: are the other machines running the same software versions ?
[10:15] <Wiz_KeeD> let me check
[10:15] <Wiz_KeeD> Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-33-generic-pae #52-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 18 16:39:21 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[10:15] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no - that's a kernel
[10:15] <Wiz_KeeD> this is 32bit
[10:15] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I asked if it was running the same software versions
[10:15] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: not what kernel version or architechture it is
[10:15] <Wiz_KeeD> yes
[10:16] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: so they are both running the same versions of ubuntu, the same versions of the framework and the same versions of the 3rd party software ?
[10:16] <Wiz_KeeD> let me check
[10:17] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: why did you say "yes" then
[10:32] <njsg> is using gem to install ruby packages a somewhat-approved thing to do? I used it, but apparently it doesn't even try to set permissions correctly - ran it as root, now a normal user can't run ruby stuff because it has no permissions to execute, read or find the binary
[10:33] <gordonjcp> njsg: not really
[10:33] <gordonjcp> njsg: you should use the proper Ubuntu packages if you can
[10:34] <njsg> there are no proper ubuntu packages for that package
[10:34] <gordonjcp> njsg: does ruby have an equivalent of python's virtualenv?
[10:34] <njsg> no idea
[10:34] <njsg> I guess I should file a bug against ruby for this?
[10:34] <njsg> the ruby package on ubuntu, I mean
[10:35] <jluc> hello
[10:36] <njsg> although I guess ruby itself needs a bug report too, which kind of package manager doesn't even try to ensure a package is usable by all users when installing on /...
[10:36] <jluc> one year ago, cmake 2.8.9 was made available. See www.cmake.org . Now is 2.8.11 av ailable. Ubuntu standard repo still provides 2.8.6 . When shall more recent version arrive ? Or what's the best way to be able to use more recent version ?
[10:37] <jluc> (2.8.6 dates 2 years ago)
[10:38] <njsg> I guess build systems are something that can break stuff quite easily if you just update them because a new version is available
[10:39] <jluc> i need 2.8.9 to build scribus svn
[10:39] <geirha> jluc: 12.04 has 2.8.7, 12.10 has 2.8.9, 13.04 has 2.8.10, and 13.10 is getting 2.8.11
[10:39] <jluc> im on 12.04 !
[10:40]  * njsg needs some time to adjust to the idea of versioned distros
[10:40] <geirha> jluc: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=cmake&searchon=names&exact=1&suite=all&section=all
[10:40] <jluc> but i need 2.8.9
[10:40] <jluc> (at least)
[10:41] <DJones> jluc: Thats one of the policies behind UBuntu, they don't bring new versions into older distribution releases unless there's a specific bug fix
[10:42] <jluc> so what's the best way : upgrade ubuntu ? download newer source and compile cmake ?
[10:42] <DJones> jluc: Probably the only options would be to either upgrade (which may not make sense as you're on a LTS release) or to look for a ppa, however they're not officially supported so if there was an issue, you'd need to go to the ppa maintainer about it
[10:42] <njsg> jluc: I'd maybe try to just install the package for the other distro
[10:42] <geirha> jluc: Look for a PPA with a newer version for precise, build it yourself, or upgrade to a newer Ubuntu release
[10:42] <DJones> !ppa | jluc
[10:42] <njsg> jluc: maybe it even works; the easiest way of them all is to compile from source, but that requires a toolchain, which is not that common in a binary-based distro
[10:43] <jluc> i will look for a ppa (and if i dont find, scribus svn will loose a tester)
[10:44] <bencc> is there ASCII code for exit signal?
[10:44] <njsg> bencc: exit signal?
[10:44] <jluc> it looks like there are severals for precise  : https://launchpad.net/~plfiorini/+archive/cmake and https://launchpad.net/~kalakris/+archive/cmake great great !
[10:45] <bencc> njsg: when a shell script exits it sends an exit signal
[10:45] <jluc> thanks djones for the link
[10:45] <njsg> bencc: it has an exit status, is that what you mean?
[10:45] <bencc> njsg: I want to send an exit signal to a shell script to force it to exit. something like CTRL+C
[10:45] <njsg> that's a number, handled by the parent process
[10:45] <njsg> bencc: hmm, you should read a bit on UNIX signals
[10:45] <njsg> bencc: there is an actual mechanism of stuff called signals, which you can send to processes
[10:46] <njsg> bencc: you *can*, in fact, send a process a SIGTERM or SIGINT signal. in fact, CTRL+C in most shells sends SIGINT to the process
[10:46] <njsg> the process does not get any CTRL+C itsel, it just gets the SIGINT
[10:47] <njsg> dunno if ubuntu has the manpages, but "man 7 signal"
[10:47] <njsg> you need the process ID to send a signal, though. Also, most tools and functions to send a signal are called kill, but they also send the other signals like SIGINT or even signals that aren't supposed to terminate anything
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> whoever asked for that exit signal: find 'exit' on this page, hope it's useful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(computing)
[10:49] <bencc> njsg: is there an ascii code for the CTRL + C or SIGINT signal?
[10:49] <bencc> njsg: how do I send it?
[10:49] <nibbler> hey, i just saw that when i click on a file, properties, and select the tags-tab ubuntu somehow shows me all kind of stuff to chose from - tags i used on my pictures, things i might have googled, or it might be scraped from my bookmarks or such - how is this list compiled?
[10:50] <njsg> bencc: for SIGINT, no, SIGINT is part of the UNIX signal mechanism, ctrl+c may have one, but it's likely not used in linux at all to terminate processes
[10:51] <giuseppe_> Ciao
[10:51] <giuseppe_> posso fare una domanda da niubbo?
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> !it
[11:21] <nechko> sup
[11:21] <nechko> got one question
[11:21] <nechko> will ubuntu 13.10 current daily image be upgraded through updates to full version once its out
[11:21] <nechko> ?
[11:22] <resager> Hi all. Please, help!
[11:22] <nechko> and another question what happened to LTS ?
[11:22] <resager> I am use command "chown -R 7777 ." in not user folder and then i can`t Enter to system (and permission on ~/)After reboot i Enter my password in form and LogOn is not work! Passord is correct (if use uncorrect password, i can see red text)
[11:22] <geirha> nechko: Yes
[11:22] <DJones> nechko: Yes it will, best to ask about 13.10 is in #ubuntu+1 though
[11:22] <resager> What i can do?
[11:22] <geirha> nechko: nothing happened to LTS
[11:22] <DJones> nechko: 12.04 is LTS, next LTS is due 2 years later with 14.04
[11:22] <nechko> aaa
[11:23] <nechko> sorry i didnt know that geirha DJones
[11:23] <geirha> resager: Never ever do chmod 777 or 7777 again. Ever.
[11:23] <nechko> i thought every x.04 version should be lts :D
[11:23] <nechko> but i can see now that doesnt make sense at all
[11:23] <nechko> :D
[11:23] <DJones> nechko: No worries, LTS releases are only every 2 years
[11:23] <resager> geirha ok :(
[11:23] <geirha> resager: You have to boot into recovery mode and fix the permissions back to some sane ones
[11:24] <resager> geirha what  i can write to console?
[11:25] <geirha> resager: Oh hang on, you ran chown, not chmod?
[11:25] <nechko> btw thanks this was fastest answer every (not much of IRC user, but as i can see things will change now :D) geirha DJones
[11:25] <resager> My ubuntu is one OS on PC, how i can use recovery mode?
[11:25] <nechko> ever*
[11:26] <geirha> resager: If so, you chown it back to your user:  E.g.  chown -R yourusername /home/yourusername
[11:27] <geirha> resager: Hold down shift while booting to get the grub menu; then select the recovery option
[11:28] <nechko> exit
[11:28] <nechko> exit
[11:28] <nechko> exit
[11:28] <FloodBot1> nechko: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:28] <resager> geirha, thanks!
[11:30] <new-linuxer> is there a way to install ubuntu's virtualbox extension pack from the ubuntu's repos?
[11:31] <cfhowlett> new-linuxer, you may have noted that it's not IN the repo 's ...
[11:33] <new-linuxer> cfhowlett the official download site is giving me "Access Denied".. I have version 4.1.12 is there a way to get the extension pack?
[11:34] <cfhowlett> new-linuxer, so no download available?
[11:34] <new-linuxer> cfhowlett nope :( I installed virtualbox from the software center..
[11:35] <cfhowlett> new-linuxer, Ok, well, the version in the software center doesn't support the extension pack as I understand it.
[11:36] <Trudko> guys  i am windows user and I am not sure if I can gain something serious especi in terms of productivity if I switch to linux. Most articles only talks about advatnages like, having free software, better security etc.I am developor(Ruby, Java, Javascript, Nodejs) and i would like some article for advanced user.
[11:36] <new-linuxer> cfhowlett OK thanks for the info, I guess I have to replace it then
[11:37] <cfhowlett> Trudko, what exactly do you WANT to do?
[11:38] <Trudko> cfhowlett: i think i would be able to benefit from command line, so maybe I would like to see some article which would compare how fast you can do things with that. but I guess i could find something about it.
[11:41] <Head-phone> Trudko: using some life-disk/pendrive/whatever is easy as pie, why not try it?
[11:41] <Trudko> Head-phone: cfhowlett for example I do enjoying using launchy on Windows
[11:42] <cfhowlett> Trudko, make a boot usb.  boot up.  play.  "something with the command line" is definitely doable in ubunut.
[11:42] <cfhowlett> *ubuntu*
[11:42] <Trudko> Head-phone:  I have ubuntu installed on VM i just worry, that because I am not that experienced with linux I will miss some good futures.
[11:42] <Head-phone> there are many guides out there giving introductions to the command line
[11:44] <Head-phone> in general, day to day use , i find the GUI to work faster for me, but the moment you need regular expressions the commandline is infinetly more powerfull
[11:53] <UrielVigilant> Good afternoon, now iam on Ubuntu 13.x persistent usb. When i try to download flash player from adobe, it ask me wich program to open it . I dont know what program is this!
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:53] <bazhang> UrielVigilant, install flash from ubuntu repos, not adobe site
[11:54] <giorgiodinapoli> hey guys i switched via sofware manager to proprietary radeon driver, no nothing is working, how can i switch back to xorhg driver from command line?
[11:54] <bazhang> !flash | UrielVigilant
[11:54] <Trudko> Head-phone: really? I found some small tricks very useful, like setting some variables around, or moving around file system and running things
[11:54] <BluesKaj> UrielVigilant, no need to download it from adobe , just use the software center and install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:54] <bazhang> Trudko, pardon?
[11:54] <UrielVigilant> ok
[11:55] <Trudko> bazhang: ?
[11:55] <bazhang> Trudko, what does you r post have to do with ubuntu support
[11:55] <Trudko> bazhang: I am continuing conversation
[11:56] <Head-phone> and the original request was about information regarding the use of the commandline, if im not mistaken
[11:56] <UrielVigilant> Thank you very much BluesKaj once again. Perfect for a newbie like me.
[11:57] <BluesKaj> np UrielVigilant
[11:59] <Trudko> Head-phone: yeah pretty much, one thing i like about launchy is for example that you can run search query for some website lets say youtube and it opens default browser for you.
[11:59] <UrielVigilant> I love this Ubuntu 13 way to work...
[12:00] <tonph> hi all..
[12:00] <raub> What is the best way to specifically define a single default gateway when you have more than one interface?
[12:01] <cfhowlett> tonph, greetinbs
[12:01] <cfhowlett> *greetings*  damn dyslexia ...
[12:01] <tonph> just was stuck in a code in which snmp_send ... does not return anything, looks like crashes...
[12:01] <tonph> how can i debugg it ?
[12:01] <tonph> hi cfhowlett :)
[12:02] <tonph> m new in c also...:(
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !c++
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !c
[12:02] <tonph> c yeap!!!
[12:02] <cfhowlett> tonph, pretty sure they have an IRC channel ...
[12:03] <tonph> cfhowlett : can u please point me that ,.. i tried #net-snmp i think..
[12:03] <tonph> cfhowlett : if any idea..
[12:03] <cfhowlett> tonph, I'll let you know if I see it.
[12:04] <bakingbread> Are there any messenger that support Google, Facebook and luckily Vkontakte? I'm totally tired or having 3 huge different webpages opened just for the sake of being able to chat
[12:04] <alias_bij> Hi, I burned the Raring (13.04) server AMD iso to disk; booting from it brings to GRUB shell not the menu; and I can't install from that.
[12:04] <alias_bij> I tried "set gfxpayload=keep" (new line) "linux /install/vmlinux file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu-server.seed quiet --"
[12:04] <alias_bij> but then it hangs and nothing happens.
[12:04] <tonph> cfhwowlett: thanks
[12:07] <alias_bij> extract_menu_config or something did the trick
[12:07] <graingert> what's the nick of the bot?
[12:07] <graingert> !bots
[12:08] <alias_bij> ... "isn't alloowed to execute in an extractor " :(
[12:10] <alias_bij> Aha, configfile (cd0)/boot/config/grub.cfg
[12:10] <Avgva> hey
[12:14] <alias_bij> Doesn't seem to work... hmmmcan anyone help installing Ubuntu w/ CD?
[12:14] <alias_bij> Booting from CD takes to GRUB command entry screen
[12:15] <cfhowlett> alias_bij, how did you make the CD?
[12:15] <giorgiodinapoli> guys im in trouble i switched to the proprietairy radeon drivers now my unity menu dissapeared nothing working anymore
[12:15] <giorgiodinapoli> :(
[12:16] <giorgiodinapoli> how can i switch back?
[12:16] <alias_bij> cfhowlett: I downloaded the iso, and used Windows to burn it; oh crap, it has to be bootable burn right?
[12:16] <cfhowlett> alias_bij, ding ding ding ding ding1
[12:16] <cfhowlett> unetbootin is what you want
[12:16] <alias_bij> Thanks cfhowlett, good point, Windows dosen't make bootables; yikes. Thanks.
[12:17] <alias_bij> Will use unetbootin; didn't know it can burn CDs; very nice. Thanks.
[12:21] <graingert> #tcsh
[12:21] <Avgva> hey
[12:22] <alias_bij> Looks like burning using Windows is in the instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Burning_from_Windows
[12:23] <alias_bij> Also, unetbootin doesn't allow writing to CD :(
[12:23] <cfhowlett> alias_bij, usb?
[12:24] <alias_bij> cfhowlett: I've done that too, still goes to the GRUB command line screen;
[12:24] <cfhowlett> alias_bij, wait, that's not right.
[12:24] <alias_bij> ubuntu-13.04-server-amd64.iso
[12:25] <alias_bij> I'll try again since it's been a few hours...
[12:25] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|alias_bij, I'm gonna punt.  ask the experts in server ...
[12:25] <cfhowlett> alias_bij, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/iso
[12:26] <alias_bij> Thanks cfhowlett, will join that channel and check that out
[12:26] <RUN> .
[12:27] <Guest84392> hi. i have an ibm thinkpad r32 laptop. with 512mb ram. installed with ubuntu 10.04. I am trying get a compaq wl100 pcmcia card to work. is there anyone willing and able to help me get it(wl100) to work. pleez : )
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !eol|Guest84392,
[12:29] <cfhowlett> Guest84392, 10.04 is end of life and no longer supported ...  upgrade and we'll try.  with your limited specs, I'd suggest xubuntu or lubuntu as they're optimized for exactly that kind of machine.
[12:30] <Guest84392> cfhowlett: . oh. ok. will go try your sugestions. thanks.
[12:31] <gordonjcp> aw, he left
[12:31] <gordonjcp> you can stick 1GB in those
[12:43] <JaredFTW> Hello guys
[12:43] <JaredFTW> or gals
[12:43] <JaredFTW> or bots
[12:43]  * ptl bot
[12:43] <ptl> I retribute your greetings, human.
[12:44] <JaredFTW> Oh great, we have a bot that understands very good English.
[12:44] <JaredFTW> What's next, bots going self-aware?
[12:45] <d347hm4n> Nevermind self aware, it's skynet you need to be worried about
[12:45]  * d347hm4n is dragged away by NSA
[12:45] <JaredFTW> That would be a problem
[12:46] <JaredFTW> Random fact of the day that you don't need to care about at all: We used to have a network called Skynet.
[12:46] <JaredFTW> Yup.
[12:46] <JaredFTW> We went on the internet from Skynet.
[12:46] <JaredFTW> Network naming FTW.
[12:46] <tester> fdfdfdf
[12:46] <tester> quit
[12:46] <haryn> hi
[12:46] <JaredFTW> I'm guessing Tester would be a ping bott.
[12:46] <JaredFTW> bot*
[12:47] <tester> yeh i am
[12:47] <JaredFTW> Wait...Bot's going self-aware would be amazing
[12:47] <tester> ok
[12:47] <JaredFTW> Because then they would destroy  each other and, in some cases, themselves
[12:47] <BluesKaj> !ot
[12:48] <tester> soory
[12:48] <JaredFTW> See you again, hopping over to XChat
[12:48] <tester> wait
[12:48] <tester> hey
[12:49] <tester> hey cristian plz help me
[12:49] <jaredforthewin> If you're wondering if I am JaredFTW, yes.
[12:50] <tester> tell me what is this
[12:50] <jaredforthewin> Let me just show you....I'm gonna log on as him
[12:50] <tester> i m novice
[12:50] <tester> plz help me
[12:50] <haryn> Any1 from India?
[12:50] <dongbo> hi there tester
[12:50] <tester> yep
[12:50] <cfhowlett> !details|tester,
[12:51] <tester> from india
[12:51] <haryn> m a Indian here
[12:51] <JaredFTW> Jaredforthewin is the same as JaredFTW, couldn't you figure that out?
[12:51] <tester> what kind of this applicatio is?
[12:51] <Pici> haryn: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India
[12:51] <haryn> ok
[12:51] <haryn> but any here?
[12:51] <tester> what the hack is this
[12:52] <Pici> tester: This is the official Ubuntu support channel.
[12:52] <tester> yep
[12:52] <dongbo> how to setup a private conversation?
[12:53] <dongbo> in irc
[12:53] <Pici> dongbo: /msg someone words
[12:53] <haryn> dongbo:  are you from India?
[12:53] <JaredFTW> dongbo: /msg namehere wordshere
[12:53] <haryn> hm
[12:53] <tester> yep
[12:53] <haryn> tester:  you are Indian?
[12:54] <tester> yeh i am
[12:54] <haryn> nice
[12:54] <dongbo> haryn: no I'm from china~
[12:54] <haryn> me too
[12:54] <jaredforthewin> I'm actually surprised nobody noticed that I'm using 2 accounts...better close the other one.
[12:54] <laloune> Hi everybody ! could somebody please advise me how I could install php v 5.3.14 on xubuntu 12.10 ?
[12:54] <haryn> ok tester  will ping u later
[12:54] <jaredforthewin> Hm....
[12:54] <dongbo> jaredforthewin: thank you!
[12:54] <tester> ok frnd
[12:54] <jaredforthewin> We usually use this IRC for ubuntu things, but ok...
[12:54] <jaredforthewin> Hm.....
[12:55] <jaredforthewin> Honestly, I don't have it \_O_/
[12:56] <tester> hey jared where do u blongs to?
[12:56] <jaredforthewin>   NOPESville
[12:56] <tester> what
[12:56] <jaredforthewin> Do I want to give out information like that?
[12:56] <jaredforthewin> No.
[12:56] <jaredforthewin> Also, tester, it looks like this belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:57] <laloune> sorry for the inconvenience
[12:57] <tester> you should give me a clue
[12:57] <ikonia> enough
[12:57] <jaredforthewin> *facepalm* Seriously?
[12:57] <jaredforthewin> No.
[12:57] <ikonia> the topic of this channel is for ubuntu support discussion
[12:57] <ikonia> please keep to that topic
[12:57] <jaredforthewin> ^
[12:57] <tester> ok
[12:58] <jaredforthewin> I do not simply give out my location
[12:58] <jaredforthewin> Tester, to the #ubuntu-offtopic with you.
[12:58] <Sandfly> Hi - is it possible to roll back ubuntu server from 13.10 to 12.04 ?
[12:58] <tester> i was just asking about ur city
[12:58] <tester> no
[12:58] <cfhowlett> Sandfly, rollback?  no.  reinstall ...
[12:58] <jaredforthewin> Tester, I am not gonna do that, no.
[12:58] <jaredforthewin> Reinstall, yes.
[12:58] <Sandfly> ok thanks - bagger it !
[12:59] <Lachezar> Hello people. I'm having trouble with an Ubuntu-Server and UPS (via NUT): the UPS seems to shut down before the server has shut down.
[12:59] <tester> ok are u a tester
[12:59] <jaredforthewin> Hm...That would be a problem
[12:59] <cfhowlett> Lachezar, so ... hardware issue?
[12:59] <Lachezar> cfhowlett: Dunno. What can I check?
[13:00] <cfhowlett> Lachezar, pretty sure there's a "check the health of your UPS"  software but I couldn't guess where that might be ...
[13:00] <Lachezar> cfhowlett: Pretty sure it's Windows only.
[13:01] <jaredforthewin> Well, if it is, there is always Wine.
[13:01] <jaredforthewin> And if that's bad,
[13:01] <jaredforthewin> VirtualBox the Windows.
[13:01] <Lachezar> cfhowlett: MGE UPS.
[13:02] <jaredforthewin> Also, I just made a new channel if you have hardware problems on your Ubuntu server: #ubuntu-hardware
[13:02] <jaredforthewin> if the channel doesn't work, hm.
[13:02] <Pici> jaredforthewin: there already is #ubuntu-server
[13:03] <Lachezar> cfhowlett: UPSC says: battery.runtime: 2124, ups.load: 12, but it seems to last only a pair of minutes, and then shuts down without shutting down the OS.
[13:03] <jaredforthewin> Damnit.
[13:03] <jaredforthewin> They beat me to it with #ubuntu-server
[13:03] <cfhowlett> Lachezar, are you dual booting?  try the UPS with a different box or with the other OS and see how it acts.
[13:04] <Lachezar> cfhowlett: No dual-booting. It's a remote server...
[13:04] <laloune> Sorry for my insistance, but could somebody please give me a clue how I could install php v 5.3.14 on xubuntu 12.10 ?
[13:05] <cfhowlett> Lachezar, ow.  well, the quick and dirty way would be just replace the UPS.  They DO fail.  Assuming that this IS a hardware issue ...
[13:05] <cfhowlett> !php
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> laloune  what's wrong with apt-get install or the software center?
[13:06] <Lachezar> cfhowlett: I've thought of that, but I'd like to avoid assuming anything. Sending someone purchase and switch the UPS may be futile if it's some settings wrong.
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Lachezar, reset back to defaults?
[13:07] <Lachezar> cfhowlett: upsc???
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Lachezar, yeah, default the UPS settings.  Hey, do you / can you manage the UPS via ubuntu?  Kind of like you can manage a router ?  Just wondering if something got changed?  Also update/upgrade/dist-upgrade recently?  maybe a new kernel or some other package changed things...
[13:09] <Lachezar> cfhowlett: I'm on Ubuntu Server LTS, updating constantly.
[13:09] <laloune> MonkeyDust   actually it install the latest version (5.4.6) but I do not want it, but the 5.3.14
[13:10] <cfhowlett> Lachezar, smart SysAdmin.  Well, I'm officially out of ideas.  Ask in #ubuntu-server   perhaps?
[13:10] <laloune> MonkeyDust     the same with the software center
[13:10] <Lachezar> laloune: apt-get install php5-cli =5.3.14
[13:11] <Lachezar> laloune: If it's available in the repositories. It will possibly fail (due to dependency conflicts).
[13:11] <laloune> Lachezar: it fails actually. it says php-cli for the Version 5.3.14 cannot be found
[13:12] <cfhowlett> !php
[13:13] <jaredforthewin> !sudo
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> laloune  did you see this? http://php.net/releases/5_3_14.php
[13:13] <cfhowlett> laloune, my apt-cache policy on 12.04 shows that 5.3.10 in available.
[13:13] <jaredforthewin> Hm...That's it! I was doing it wrong
[13:13] <jaredforthewin> !gksu
[13:14] <jaredforthewin> I was supposed to be using gksu nautilus when I was making a root nautilus
[13:14] <jaredforthewin> Not sudo nautilus
[13:16] <Lachezar> laloune: I can only see 5.3 going up to 5.3.10. Seems there are no packages for 5.3.14... Someone correct me if I'm wrong please!
[13:16] <jaredforthewin> So I have another question
[13:17] <jaredforthewin> How can I make Windows 7 be the default OS to be selected in GRUB2?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> Lachezar, you're wrong.   http://php.net/releases/5_3_14.php
[13:18] <jaredforthewin> LOL
[13:18] <cfhowlett> Lachezar, it also says get it from the downloads page
[13:18] <jaredforthewin> The PHP.net page uses PHP
[13:18] <dongbo> jaredforthewin: grub-set-default
[13:19] <Lachezar> cfhowlett: I was refering to .deb in the repositories. I was not refering to manual download+compile+install.
[13:19] <cfhowlett> Lachezar, see the notice?  It JUST became available so it's not IN the repos ... yet.
[13:21] <io______> Hi i ve set myself out of the sudoers group, how can I fix that? Either get a root passowrd or readding myself to sudoers
[13:21] <cfhowlett> !sudo|io______,
[13:21] <Lachezar> cfhowlett: How so? The releases shows 5.3.14 was released: 14 June 2012
[13:22] <io______> ubottu: ?
[13:22] <io______> ajaj sorry
[13:22] <io______> cfhowlett: I can t perform a sudo command
[13:22] <gordonjcp> io______: aha, but you can't sudo any more?
[13:22] <gordonjcp> !password | io______
[13:23] <io______> gordonjcp: right, I did something wrong as I ve added mysel fot the vboxusers yesterday I htink
[13:23] <gordonjcp> io______: now in there you'll find out how to boot to single-user mode and reset passwords
[13:23] <gordonjcp> io______: don't reset your password, just add yourself back into sudoers
[13:23] <jaredforthewin> Reboot time!
[13:23] <soulisson> Hi, what package should i install for make tools
[13:23] <gordonjcp> something like "usermod -a -G sudo io_is_a_wally"
[13:24] <io______> gordonjcp: that will do thanks
[13:24] <gordonjcp> soulisson: build-essential
[13:24] <soulisson> thank you
[13:25] <Lachezar> laloune: It seems the 5.3 has not been updated once 5.4 was out.
 you mean that 5.3.14 does not exist ?
[13:26] <AssmanLubeless> how to ijstall ubuntu on my computer
[13:27] <cfhowlett> !nick|AssmanLubeless,
[13:27] <gordonjcp> !install | AssmanLubeless
[13:28] <AssmanLubeless> yaaoow its difficult
[13:28] <cfhowlett> AssmanLubeless, and you haven't even tried.  ts.
[13:28] <cfhowlett> tsk
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> AssmanLubeless  download ubuntu > burn to usb stick > boot from USB > follow instructions
[13:29] <Nosophorus> ubuntu is great
[13:29] <AssmanLubeless> i tried and ended up bricking my pc
[13:29] <Nosophorus> much better than osx
[13:29] <cfhowlett> AssmanLubeless, then you did it wrong
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> AssmanLubeless  what happesn when you try? symptoms? any error messages?
[13:30] <AssmanLubeless> no i did it vry crflly  i lst winds 8 nw
[13:30] <AssmanLubeless> yes i didnt read those errors
[13:33] <lapt0p> Can someone recommend me a package with generic graphics card drivers?
[13:33] <kalekip1> hi
[13:33] <AssmanLubeless> hi kalwe
[13:34] <kalekip1> I'm slowly giving up on Ubuntu D:
[13:34] <kalekip1> Yesterday I spent (literrarily) 1 complete day to fix an error.
[13:34] <NeoGeo64> Help, how do I activate my installation of Ubuntu?
[13:34] <kalekip1> Sadly, I couldn't fix it
[13:34] <NeoGeo64> I need to verify that my copy of Ubuntu is genuine.
[13:35] <cfhowlett> NeoGeo64, no you don't.  stop trolliing.  ubuntu has no activation process.
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|NeoGeo64, but to verify the downloaded ISO ...
[13:35] <kalekip1> Anybody knows how to fix the wublildr.mbr not found/corrrupt error?
[13:35] <kalekip1> wubildr.mb*
[13:36] <kalekip1> mbr
[13:36] <kalekip1> omg
[13:36] <cfhowlett> kalekip1, nope.  but ... wubis is for TESTING ubuntu, not for long term installation.   recommend you do a proper dual installation.
[13:36] <AssmanLubeless> plllaaz haaalp me ubuntu asking for activation code where do i get craxk plaaaaz tell i
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !ops|AssmanLubeless,
[13:36] <kalekip1> I also tried to burn it on a CD
[13:36] <kalekip1> and changed the BIOS
[13:37] <kalekip1> but my Alienware just can't read it
[13:37] <kalekip1> (the CD)
[13:37] <kalekip1> USB didn't work 1 year ago either
[13:39] <cfhowlett> kalekip1, verify the ISO with md5sum.  verify the integrity of the usb/cd with "verify disk integrity".  if both those are good, then you need to address the boot settings on your hardware.
[13:40] <kalekip1> Can I check it online?
[13:40] <kalekip1> Or do I have to download a software?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|kalekip1, shows you how to check the ISO
[13:43] <lapt0p> I am trying to install graphics card drivers on Lubuntu 13.04. I get this message, after i click "continue" on the installer window:Check if system has the tools required for installation.
[13:43] <lapt0p> fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers.  /lib/modules/3.8.0-30-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.
[13:43] <lapt0p> One or more tools required for installation cannot be found on the system. Install the required tools before installing the fglrx driver.
[13:43] <lapt0p> Optionally, run the installer with --force option to install without the tools.
[13:43] <lapt0p> Forcing install will disable AMD hardware acceleration and may make your system unstable. Not recommended.
[13:43] <FloodBot1> lapt0p: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:44] <lapt0p> I am trying to install graphics card drivers on Lubuntu 13.04. I get this message, after i click "continue" on the installer window: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6114979/
[13:46] <k1l> lapt0p: did you install the kernel headers as mentioned in the error message?
[13:47] <lapt0p> kil: I've done a check, and it seems like my headers are up-to-date, 22 August 2013. Are there headers newer than those?
[13:47] <k1l> lapt0p: what does a "uname -a" give you?
[13:47] <lapt0p> kil: Linux lapt0p 3.8.0-30-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 22 20:54:42 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[13:48] <k1l> lapt0p: can you pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep linux-headers"
[13:48] <lapt0p> kil:sure
[13:49] <lapt0p> kil: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6115002/
[13:50] <kalekip1> Ah, I found an md5sum tool online: http://onlinemd5.com/ :)
[13:50] <iceroot> kalekip1: hosted by the NSA i guess, dont upload important data there
[13:51] <kalekip1> Yea, probably. But it's just Ubuntu ;)
[13:51] <k1l> lapt0p: so the headers are ok. is that fglrx packages from ubuntu repos? which ubuntu is it exactly?
[13:51] <kalekip1> Where can I see the md5 of Ubuntu 13.04 (x64)?
[13:52] <kalekip1> This is what I got returned: 1A7A7DBB6FB0AD5AA1227FA012A75308
[13:52] <kalekip1> But I'm not sure what to compare with it.
[13:53] <k1l> kalekip1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[13:53] <kalekip1> Thanks!
[13:53] <lapt0p> kil: I don't fully understand the question. I downloaded the .zip file from the official ATI site, than made a .run file out of it, and then ran that file. I am using Lubuntu 13.04
[13:54] <lapt0p> kil: But i am asking on this channel, because lubuntu's official channel is like Nevada :D ...
[13:54] <k1l> lapt0p: yes, that is not the ubuntu way. ubuntu brings a driver for you in the official ubuntu repos. its already made sure that it fits into ubuntu.
[13:54] <k1l> !fglrx | lapt0p
[13:55] <k1l> you can install the ubuntu one with "sudo apt-get install fglrx"
[13:55] <lapt0p> kil: Are there any generic video drivers? I want to do that because i can't change my resolution, after installing ATI's drivers
[13:56] <lapt0p> Linux is so fun, you just learn the ways things work :)
[13:57] <Fudus> removing nvidia* should do it
[13:57] <Fudus> oops misread ;)
[13:57] <kalekip1> k1l: I have downloaded 2x Ubuntu 13.04 x64 (1 a long time ago and another one just yesterday), they both have the same md5 hash: 1A7A7DBB6FB0AD5AA1227FA012A75308. I just can't find it on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[13:57] <Fudus> fglrx?
[13:58] <k1l> kalekip1: where did you get the isos from?
[13:58] <lapt0p> I removed them, and i still cannot change my resolution. I don't feel advanced enough to edit the .conf files...
[13:58] <kalekip1> Official download page
[13:58] <kalekip1> k1l: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[13:58] <kalekip1> second download, 64 bit
[13:59] <Fudus> look around in software and sources, prop driver tabs, select open source drivers
[13:59] <Fudus> software & updates rather
[13:59] <Lachezar> laloune: Sorry to be late, was AFK. I believe there are no PHP versions between 5.3.10 and 5.4.0 released as Ubuntu Packages.
[13:59] <kalekip1> Fudus, to who are you talking to?
[13:59] <Fudus> oops additional drivers
[14:00] <Fudus> lapt0p:
[14:00] <kalekip1> oh
[14:00] <kalekip1> ok
[14:00] <k1l> kalekip1: there are possible errors while downloading or the mirror you got directed to got a bad iso.
[14:00] <laloune> Lachezar ok thanks for your support. I'll try to install it manually
[14:01] <kalekip1> k1l: I downloaded it twice, what else should I do?
[14:01] <k1l> kalekip1: change to another (local) mirror
[14:02] <Lachezar> kalekip1: Torrent!
[14:02] <kalekip1> k1l: I think it's the problem of my PC actually..
[14:02] <boxysean> hey y'all. i'm having an awesome (read: annoying) problem on my ubuntu pc. the symptoms are fonts render all "glitchy" and the computer hard freezes mid gpu refresh so it goes all purple and glitched out. i suspect it's a hardware issue but having a hard time finding support for this issue so i'm here. :)
[14:02] <boxysean> http://dump.boxysean.com/glitch.png <-- i have been able to take a screenshot of the glitch
[14:02] <k1l> kalekip1: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads  or try the torrent downloads, the do check the images, too
[14:02] <boxysean> i replaced the gphx card this morning but same problem, so my guess is the motherboard is messed up!
[14:02] <Lachezar> boxysean: You should memcheck.
[14:03] <boxysean> Lachezar: cool! i will try this
[14:03] <Lachezar> boxysean: No, not cool. But it /might/ be related to bad memory.
[14:03] <kalekip1> k1l: I'm using uTorrent, can I check the md5?
[14:04] <kalekip1> OMG, it downloaded INSTANTLY
[14:04] <boxysean> Lachezar: obvs not cool. perhaps i should have exclaimed "useful!"
[14:04] <kalekip1> O.o
[14:04] <boxysean> or "potentially useful!"
[14:04] <Lachezar> kalekip1: MD5 sum should be the same.
[14:04] <Fudus> that means it is correct
[14:05] <Fudus> boxysean: that looks like a driver issue?
[14:05] <Lachezar> kalekip1: Torrent has built-in checksumming.
[14:05] <kalekip1> lachezar: It downloaded instantly (as I had the same file in that folder), does that mean that the file is complete?
[14:05] <Fudus> yes
[14:06] <Lachezar> kalekip1: It should mean that. Did you download *over* the old file?
[14:06] <kalekip1> lachezar: no, (I assume) it just checked if the file was correct.
[14:07] <kalekip1> lachezar: should I redownload it completely?
[14:07] <Lachezar> kalekip1: If the download says 'finished' it *should* be OK.
[14:07] <Lachezar> kalekip1: You may try the 'check' option of your torrent client.
[14:08] <boxysean> Lachezar: do you mean memtest86? can't find information on this memcheck
[14:08] <Lachezar> boxysean: Yes, memtest86.
[14:08] <kalekip1> lachezar: yes, it said "seeding". I'm redownloading it again with 1.4 MB/s. 9.4% now
[14:08] <exutux> hi
[14:08] <kalekip1> Hi, exutux.
[14:09] <lapt0p> Fudus: Are there any packages with generic video card drivers?
[14:09] <Lachezar> kalekip1: Seeding meant it was downloaded, and now you're redistributing it to other people that want to download it.
[14:09] <Lachezar> lapt0p: vesa?
[14:09] <Fudus> lapt0p: try open source one in additional drivers
[14:09] <exutux> do you know some way to add data into an ods file ( libreoffice calc) from shell? like echo "test" >> file.ods
[14:09] <kalekip1> lachezar: yes, I know. I just answered your question "if it says 'finishes' it ..."
[14:09] <Fudus> or one of the different varieties of amd's drivers
[14:10] <Lachezar> exutux: .ods is a .zip with .xml inside, but adding data there is *not* trivial.
[14:10] <exutux> :(
[14:10] <jay> How can I show a mysql list in a html <select> list ?
[14:10] <exutux> well thanks
[14:10] <kalekip1> jay: Could you be more specific?
[14:11] <kalekip1> jay: Do you want to read a row?
[14:11] <Lachezar> exutux: You *could* try it yourself, but i've tried working those with Java (without a library), and have had little success.
[14:11] <jay> well, all rows of the db order by name
[14:11] <lapt0p> Fudus: Can you explain me a little better, please? I go to "Additional Drivers", and what should i do next there?
[14:11] <Lachezar> jay: I suggest you turn to the channel of the Programming Language you're using.
[14:12] <kalekip1> I can help him, if he'll be more specific... :p
[14:12] <Fudus> there should be a list of drivers to choose from, pick one and then reboot to see if it helps, chose another
[14:12] <jay> i'll go check again then :)
[14:12] <exutux> Lachezar: uhm I will create a txt file formatted by tab with echo -e "sometext\t" and then I will open it with calc
[14:12] <Fudus> open source, fglrx -upadtes
[14:13] <Lachezar> exutux: What do you use to query the DB? mysql CLI?
[14:14] <Lachezar> exutux: Whops. Wrong member. Sry.
[14:14] <Fudus> if you have a pre 5000 series radeon you'll need to go to open source if you're not on 12.04
[14:14] <exutux> Lachezar: nope they are data from ather txt files
[14:14] <Lachezar> exutux: You could use a CSV or TSV file instead of ODS.
[14:14] <kalekip1> OMG nooooooooooooooooooooh
[14:14] <exutux> Lachezar: uhm I will try
[14:15] <kalekip1> I almost completed the script to load it in the HTML SELECT (using PHP)
[14:15] <lapt0p> Fudus: I've tried those drivers, and actually those drivers made my resolution 1024x768. I go to Software and Updates -> Additional Drivers, and then there is no list of drivers as you said.
[14:15] <kalekip1> Then I wanted to indent, but Pastebin removed it all D:
[14:15] <kalekip1> The worst thing is that I can't undo in Pastebin
[14:15] <Lachezar> exutux: That's what I do when I need automated spread-sheet generation from scripts.
[14:15] <kalekip1> Oh, jay left anyways.
[14:16] <kalekip1> lachezar: Do you want me to take a screenshot of my boot settings?
[14:16] <Lachezar> kalekip1: I was hoping he would ask to do that in Bash :)
[14:16] <Lachezar> kalekip1: Why would I want a screenshot?
[14:16] <exutux> Lachezar: yeah it's runs good
[14:17] <kalekip1> lachezar: I dunno, maybe I am just dumb and don't know how to properly set up the BIOS.
[14:17] <Fudus> lapt0p: hm, sudo apt-get remove fglrx* should rever to os drivers
[14:17] <Fudus> (after reboot maybe)
[14:17] <Lachezar> kalekip1: Well… I'm not sure I can help you there. With my laptop I remember I had to give it some more memory to work better, but that might not be the solution for you.
[14:17] <lapt0p> Fudus: What is the meaning of the "*" in the command?
[14:18] <Fudus> to remove all the flgrx drivers
[14:18] <lapt0p> Fudus: Is it connected with pointers and memory allocation, that kind of stuff? :)
[14:18] <kalekip1> I'll just take a screenshot of my BIOS. I'll come back in like 6 minutes
[14:18] <Fudus> just a wildcard
[14:21] <lapt0p> Fudus: Thanks a LOT! It's finally fixed. I think i've tried the same yesterday, but without the "*", maybe that helped :)))
[14:22] <Fudus> if you go back to additional drivers you should see a list of ubuntu's directly supported versions
[14:22] <Fudus> you can click back to open source if it fails that way :P
[14:24] <Wiz_KeeD> Any safe way to remove linux previous kernels so the grub won't show the "Previous linux versions" thing? Also how can you rename the Options so I place clean tags like "Ubuntu 12.04 LTS" and Windows 8?
[14:24] <lapt0p> Fudus: Nope, it won't show any drivers again.
[14:25] <lapt0p> Fudus: But the important thing is that you helped me fix it and i'm really thankful.
[14:25] <lapt0p> Now, another question, lol :D
[14:25] <Fudus> what gpu do you have anyhow? amd dropped support from post 12 ubuntu with pre 5000 radeons
[14:25] <kalekip1> Back
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  ubuntu-tweak has a Janitor that handles the job http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[14:25] <LinuxGo__> Wiz_KeeD: http://askubuntu.com/questions/176322/removing-old-kernel-entries-in-grub
[14:26] <lapt0p> Fudus: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300
[14:26] <compdoc> http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-to-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[14:26] <Fudus> ah yes, too old :P
[14:26] <lapt0p> Fudus: On a Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo-Pi 2530
[14:27] <designbybeck_> What versions of Ubuntu install/boot into EFI????
[14:27] <lapt0p> Fudus: The worst hardware company ever, terrible build quality
[14:27] <Fudus> i use aptitude to remove old kernels in installed/kernel/main
[14:27] <Wiz_KeeD> should this one-liner be trusted? sudo apt-get purge $( dpkg --list | grep -P -o "linux-image-\d\S+" | grep -v $(uname -r | grep -P -o ".+\d") )
[14:27] <Wiz_KeeD> :))
[14:28] <Ari-Yang> Wiz_KeeD, I removed old kernels via synaptic package manager... and from terminal :|
[14:29] <Wiz_KeeD> from both you mean? :)
[14:29] <geirha> Wiz_KeeD: ugh, that's horrible shell code
[14:30] <Ari-Yang> Wiz_KeeD, I mean that I removed old kernels using synaptic once, and another time I used terminal
[14:30] <Ari-Yang> Wiz_KeeD, I think you should just use synaptic
[14:30] <Fudus> don't like aptitude eh
[14:32] <Ari-Yang> Fudus, I actually run aptitude if I want to purge something....
[14:33] <kalekip1> Why doesn't my PC read the CD? https://www.dropbox.com/s/7oihu7h1q4g0hqb/Ubuntu%20CD%20Content.JPG https://www.dropbox.com/s/2s369e2n59r94f7/20130916_162036.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/qhrre3sjuf5o5no/20130916_162114.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/3rnhgbvd23n51gs/20130916_162128.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/29791b1o1mypflv/20130916_162158.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwrpk94m7w7ffk1/20130916_162225.jpg
[14:33] <kalekip1> :3
[14:34] <Seanzky> does anyone here use cinnamon?
[14:36] <kalekip1> I just can't find a solution for this. My pc just doesn't read the CD
[14:39] <TheDigitalDInlo> hey all!
[14:39] <kalekip1> Hi, TheDidigtalDInlo.
[14:39] <TheDigitalDInlo> ^.^ Who here amougst you uses vagrant?
[14:40] <TheDigitalDInlo> I require assistance from you beautiful people
[14:40] <Ari-Yang> !who
[14:40] <kalekip1> :p
[14:40] <jhutchins> kalekip1: Coming in a bit late, you are not able to boot the a disc, or unable to read it as a data disc?
[14:40] <lapt0p> Anyone knows if there is a way to turn off the laptop's Wi-Fi internal antenna and only use the USB Wi-Fi adapter?
[14:40] <Ari-Yang> !details | TheDigitalDInlo
[14:40] <gordonjcp> !help | TheDigitalDInlo
[14:40] <wilee-nilee> !anyone
[14:40] <kalekip1> jhutchins: I am not sure. Just nothing happens. Like there is no CD in it.
[14:40] <UKn0Me> kalekip1, in pic 4, set the cd/dvd a higher priority than the hard disk
[14:41] <kalekip1> UKn0Me: I tried that. No luck.
[14:41] <jhutchins> kalekip1: Have you verified the iso file and the resulting disc?
[14:41] <Ari-Yang> lapt0p, well, the USB doesn't come with instructions?
[14:41] <kalekip1> jhutchins with md5? Yes, it isn't the same as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[14:42] <kalekip1> The hash I get returned from the iso: 1A7A7DBB6FB0AD5AA1227FA012A75308
[14:42] <Fudus> try using pendrive linux installer and putting it on a flash drive instead
[14:42] <jhutchins> kalekip1: Then you have your answer.  Unless the md5sum of the disc matches the sum on the web site, the image is not valid and even if it boots it probably won't work.
[14:42] <Fudus> it'll be faster too
[14:43] <TheDigitalDInlo> Any developers in the housE?
[14:43] <kalekip1> jhutchins: I downloaded the file thrice. How can I... :/
[14:43] <beefman> how do i make a desktop launcher take command line arguments?  i created one for dosbox with the command "dosbox -conf ~/.dosbox/myconf.conf" (no quotes) but it doesn't get the argument
[14:43] <lapt0p> Ari-Yang: I doubt that they will give you instructions for such thing :D I want to turn off the internal wi-fi module, because if u turn off the internal antenna with sliding the Wi-Fi hardware switch on the laptop, i can't get a signal with the USB adapter.
[14:43] <jhutchins> kalekip1: Try downloading from a different mirror and/or saving to a different place.
[14:43] <kalekip1> TheDigitalDInlo: I think more than 20% here are dev's.
[14:43] <jhutchins> kalekip1: Probably not.
[14:43] <jhutchins> kalekip1: Mostly just fellow users here.
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> TheDigitalDInlo  and there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[14:44] <kalekip1> jhutchins Who knows :p
[14:44] <kalekip1> I'm a web developer
[14:44] <kalekip1> jhutchins: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads ?
[14:44] <TheDigitalDInlo> niice thanks guys
[14:44] <wilee-nilee> self anointed
[14:44] <lapt0p> Are there any channel for hardware-related Linux problems?
[14:44] <lapt0p> channels*
[14:45] <jundoe> hello. i have a problem with my ubuntu just now., When I boot my computer, it can load the boot loader, then after that, it wont open the desktop. what should do? pplease help thanks.
[14:45] <lapt0p> jundoe: Explain the question a bit better
[14:46] <jhutchins> jundoe: Do you get a console or does it fail to finish booting?
[14:46] <jundoe> it doesnt give any error message
[14:47] <traplin> my CPU levels are incredibly high constantly, when running only Sublime text, Filezilla FTP, Chrome and Clementine? They are sitting at around 80% constantly. it is also a fresh Ubuntu install
[14:47] <lapt0p> jundoe: So, you were using Windows, restarted, and then wanted to use Linux, and the bootloader won't load, or?
[14:47] <Loaft> get more cpu
[14:47] <kalekip1> traplin: How much RAM do you have?
[14:47] <kalekip1> traplin: If you have a 64 bit version, you might consider using x86 (32 bit)
[14:47] <traplin> kalekip1: 4Gb, and a 3.3Ghz Dual Core
[14:47] <lapt0p> jundoe: Explain what you were doing before this to happen, etc, etc...
[14:47] <jhutchins> traplin: Which process is using the CPU?
[14:47] <Fudus> use system monitor and see what is consuming the cpu
[14:47] <traplin> kalekip1: am currently on the 64bit
[14:48] <boxysean> Lachezar: boooom. lots of errors on memtest
[14:48] <jundoe> laptop, no i am using ubuntu on this machine... it was working fine for the past 4 months and now it wont load the desktop
[14:48] <kalekip1> traplin: try 32 bit?
[14:48] <Ari-Yang> traplin, what ubuntu version are you using? and are you using open source graphics radeon driver?
[14:48] <jundoe> this computer has only ubunt,, no windows
[14:48] <jhutchins> kalekip1: That is not going to affect CPU load.
[14:48] <kalekip1> jhutchins no? :/
[14:49] <traplin> Ari-Yang: the latest, 13.04 i think. kalekip1: i will give 32bit a shot, but my internet is slow so that will come later. jhutchins at the moment clementine is highest. and the CPU has now gone down to a better level, just as i asked the question
[14:49] <jundoe> jhutchins, laptop, ubuntu was perfectly working until today, after the bootloader, the screen is empty.
[14:49] <Ari-Yang> traplin, are you or are you not using open source radeon driver?
[14:50] <Fudus> does ctrl-alt-f1 bring you to an login screen?
[14:50] <Ari-Yang> traplin, in dashboard (if you're using unity) search for software source and go to the 'Additional Drivers' tab
[14:50] <traplin> Ari-Yang: i used the driver from the ATI site
[14:50] <Ari-Yang> oh...
[14:50] <Ari-Yang> traplin, what card do you have?
[14:50] <traplin> HD 5770
[14:51] <Fudus> if so, log in and tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:51] <traplin> in the software sources, it says using the FGLRX proprietary
[14:51] <jundoe> :(
[14:51] <traplin> also, whenever i scroll through my code in Sublime text, that is when my CPU spikes to 100%. that is weird
[14:51] <Ari-Yang> okay... because if you were using the open source radeon driver.. I'd suggest you upgrade to kernel 3.11 and add the boot parameter radeon.dpm=1 to GRUB for dynamic power management (that works really well, my laptop doesn't heat up at all)
[14:51] <Ari-Yang> ^ traplin
[14:51] <honestly> I'd like to automount a hard drive exactly the way nautilus does it when I click on the drive. invoking udisks --mount mounts it under /media/LABEL instead of /media/USER/LABEL. How do I fix this?
[14:51] <Ari-Yang> traplin, maybe you should try it... upgrading the kernel...
[14:52] <honestly> (I'm on raring)
[14:52] <traplin> Ari-Yang: okay sure. i am still new to Linux so i don't know how to do that, but i will do a search.
[14:52] <traplin> Ari-Yang: thanks for your help.
[14:52] <Ari-Yang> traplin, first things first.... go back to Additional Drivers and select the radeon open source one, and apply changes...
[14:53] <traplin> Ari-Yang: okay its applying now
[14:53] <Ari-Yang> traplin, are you using wifi proprietary driver?
[14:53] <Ari-Yang> or is is set to "Do not use this device"?
[14:53] <traplin> Ari-Yang: i am using a ndiswrapper driver?
[14:54] <Ari-Yang> traplin, after the first is done applying, select "Do not use this device" for the wifi driver
[14:54] <traplin> Ari-Yang: the ndiswrapper one?
[14:54] <Ari-Yang> yes, make sure under the wifi driver, it's set to "Do not use this device"
[14:55] <traplin> Ari-Yang: but that is the only way i can get internet
[14:55] <Ari-Yang> traplin, when all that's done, reboot and come back. You can't use any proprietary driver when upgrading to mainline kernel.
[14:55] <Ari-Yang> traplin, it will use open source wifi driver
[14:55] <Ari-Yang> the kernel's driver
[14:55] <Ari-Yang> http://gyazo.com/aef04800f93347ea7a193b257be09966 <--- click that screen shot traplin, that's what mine looks like
[14:55] <Ari-Yang> (and I'm using wifi)
[14:55] <traplin> Ari-Yang: are you use? i have a bcm43211 chipset. it isn't natively supported by Ubuntu
[14:56] <traplin> chipset wifi dongle*
[14:56] <m4k> I'm noob in debian package. I downloaded some packages and extracted it, when opening and going through it I can't anything. Pls hlp me to study it
[14:56] <Ari-Yang> traplin, you should be fine, disable it, reboot, if you don't have wifi then turn it back on, reboot and come back to this IRC channel and tell me
[14:56] <honestly> the answer to my question is udisksctl
[14:57] <traplin> Ari-Yang: okay, gonna give it a try now. thanks. and in the additonal drivers section it says "No proprietary drivers in use" good i guess?
[14:57] <Ari-Yang> yes
[14:57] <traplin> Ari-Yang: okay, be right back
[14:57] <Ari-Yang> okay
[14:58] <SuPerUsER> m4k do you want to install .deb files?
[14:58] <kalekip1> Anybody tried out the Ubuntu OS for mobile?
[14:59] <Myrtti> kalekip1: I'm sure people at #ubuntu-touch have
[14:59] <kalekip1> Ah ok :p
[15:00] <m4k> SuPerUsER: No, I want study debian packages source code
[15:00] <kalekip1> m4k: was that sarcasm? Cause I'm not sure XD
[15:02] <rypervenche> m4k: Do you want to study the source code of a package or just extract the .deb package and see how the files are put together?
[15:03] <m4k> rypervenche: yes, I dont understand anything :(
[15:03] <rypervenche> m4k: Which one? The source code or the extraction of the .deb file?
[15:03] <traplin> ari-yang: still high CPU load with sublime text
[15:03] <SuPerUsER> m4k, source files are genrally .tar.gz files
[15:04] <m4k> the source code
[15:04] <Ari-Yang> traplin, now download http://people.freedesktop.org/~agd5f/radeon_ucode/JUNIPER_smc.bin and move it to /lib/firmware/radeon directory. then download this http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-next/2013-09-05-saucy/linux-image-3.11.0-996-generic_3.11.0-996.201309050405_amd64.deb - in terminal type gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub and make the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT look like this: GRUB_CMDL
[15:04] <Ari-Yang> INE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.dpm=1"
[15:04] <clue_h> m4k, youre better off downloading the source not the deb file, if available in that way which it is usually as a tar.gz file
[15:04] <Ari-Yang> (sorry hexchat splits messages :/)
[15:05] <kalekip1> Maybe a silly question, but does GRUB automatically install by dual booting?
[15:05] <sulo_> Hi guys hope you will resolve your problems soon :)
[15:05] <unknown__> how can i root change my irc's name?
[15:05] <lapt0p> kalekipl:Yes it does
[15:05] <rypervenche> m4k: apt-get source packagename
[15:05] <traplin> Ari-Yang: gonna do that now. the large download will take a tiny while.
[15:05] <rypervenche> m4k: sudo apt-get source packagename
[15:05] <kalekip1> unknown: /nick
[15:06] <honestly> kalekip1: grub-install will detect bootloaders / os installs that are present and make them all bootable for you
[15:06] <unknown101> exit
[15:06] <rypervenche> m4v: You will need to install dpkg-dev before you do that though.
[15:06] <Ari-Yang> traplin, okay, let me know after you edit grub and save it. just highlight me by saying my nick (like what you've been doing)
[15:06] <SuPerUsER> m4k: if you want to study source then download .tar.gz files
[15:06] <traplin> Ari-Yang: will do
[15:06] <m4k> ok both then
[15:07] <Ari-Yang> traplin, you d/led the ucode .bin ?
[15:07] <traplin> Ari-Yang: Juniper?
[15:07] <Ari-Yang> the JUNIPER_smc.bin, traplin
[15:07] <Ari-Yang> traplin, yes.
[15:07] <traplin> Ari-Yang: yes i did, moving over to lib/firmware/radeon now
[15:07] <gstevensgreg> Anyone from india?
[15:07] <Ari-Yang> okay
[15:07] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic | gstevensgreg
[15:08] <gstevensgreg> ok sorry
[15:08] <gstevensgreg> im a Indian user
[15:08] <m4k> rypervenche, ok then
[15:08] <Ari-Yang> !hindi
[15:08] <Ari-Yang> !hin
[15:08] <traplin> Ari-Yang: okay the .bin file is in lib/firmware/radeon. now just waiting on the linux-image to complete (5mb so far). damn internet
[15:09] <Ari-Yang> okay
[15:09] <m4k> gstevensgreg: I'm also Indian, tht not indians problem, problm is yours
[15:09] <Ari-Yang> traplin, that _smc.bin file you d/led for your card is needed for DPM (dynamic power management)
[15:09] <Ari-Yang> traplin, while you wait, edit GRUB
[15:09] <traplin> Ari-Yang: yeah, i remember it from Hackintosh. okay
[15:10] <traplin> Ari-Yang: okay grub has been edited too
[15:10] <Ari-Yang> traplin, now run sudo update-grub
[15:11] <m4k> rypervenche, ok then
[15:11] <traplin> Ari-Yang: just to be 100% sure, do you mind checking it, http://pastebin.com/95rYSf0z
[15:11] <Ari-Yang> sure
[15:12] <m4k> rypervenche, or plz suggest any tutorial or which is the simple package to scratch a beginner
[15:12] <rypervenche> m4k: I don't understand what you want to do with the source code.
[15:13] <kalekip1> I'm going to try the Universal way
[15:13] <kalekip1> Wish me luck
[15:13] <Ari-Yang> traplin, http://pastebin.com/qxKGidcS
[15:13] <m4k> rypervenche, I want study
[15:13] <Ari-Yang> make it look like that
[15:13] <rypervenche> m4k: I still don't understand what it is that you would like to study. You will need to be more specific.
[15:14] <traplin> Ari-Yang: done. and i've run update-grub
[15:14] <traplin> ran*
[15:14] <Ari-Yang> traplin, I uncommented (removed # before line 8), so make it look like that pastebin it to me one more time. the reason for the uncomment is so you can boot into an old kernel in case something goes wrong
[15:14] <Ari-Yang> traplin, grub will load, all you have to do is hit 'enter' because it will already be selected on ubuntu
[15:14] <traplin> Ari-Yang: okay sure thing, one moment
[15:15] <jundoe> I installed the latest Distro of Ubuntu  about 3-4 months ago, everything was good, until today, when i opened the computer, it starts normally until the boot loader. When I select the normal Ubuntu Boot, the next screen is blank and it doest open the desktop. I rebooted several times, tried to "fix" using the other options in the boot loader but nothing happened, I just keep on rebooting and nothing happens. Anyone knows the problem?
[15:15] <traplin> Ari-Yang: http://pastebin.com/GkeZwX7v
[15:15] <Ari-Yang> traplin, yeah, that looks right, the .deb file down downloading?
[15:15] <traplin> Ari-Yang: not yet no
[15:16] <Ari-Yang> traplin, okay, when it's done install it,then reboot. don't freak out if anything weird happens, just let everything be (for e.g. if you get a /tmp not ready message under the splash screen)
[15:17] <traplin> Ari-Yang: okay sure thing. thanks a lot for the help. i will let you know how things go
[15:17] <m4k> rypervenche, Ok I want create a simple terminal emulator online software, so I downloaded the gnome-terminal and bash package source codes, and extracted. But going through the source code I can't understand the code and can't identify the files in it, which one first or last. How understand this plz help me
[15:17] <Ari-Yang> traplin, alright, good luck. I'm just hoping this will work...
[15:17] <traplin> Ari-Yang: haha, likewise.
[15:17] <Ari-Yang> traplin, run sensors in terminal and pastebin the output for me
[15:18] <Ari-Yang> if you don't have it run sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[15:18] <rypervenche> m4k: You need to learn the language that the code is written in. I'm not sure off-hand which language they are written in, but it's probably C or C++.
[15:19] <traplin> Ari-Yang: okay sure thing
[15:20] <Ari-Yang> traplin, yeah install lm-sensors,  run sensors pastebin it to me. then type this in terminal lspci | grep VGA and tell me what the output is
[15:20] <m4k> rypervenche: yeah c, but can't find any c or cpp file in it
[15:21] <traplin> Ari-Yang: http://pastebin.com/VvVd2G8X , sensors output
[15:21] <rypervenche> m4k: And you ran "sudo apt-get source gnome-terminal" and "sudo apt-get source bash" ?
[15:21] <traplin> Ari-Yang: http://pastebin.com/zj9EsUrY , grep
[15:22] <m4k> rypervenche, yes
[15:22] <Ari-Yang> ...traplin I don't think that's the right sensors :| in terminal type apt-cache search lm-sensors and pastebin that
[15:23] <traplin> Ari-Yang: http://pastebin.com/N3uGMAmj
[15:23] <rypervenche> m4k: And you have installed dpkg-dev ?
[15:23] <Ari-Yang> traplin, run sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[15:23] <m4k> rypervenche, now installing
[15:23] <traplin> Ari-Yang: i did that already. the first sensors ouput i sent you wasn't the entire thing ( i didn't see all the prompts )
[15:23] <traplin> i will do it properly now
[15:24] <traplin> Ari-Yang: sudo sensors , right?
[15:24] <Ari-Yang> no just run sudo apt-get install lm-sensors then after it's done installing run sensors by itself
[15:24] <Ari-Yang> you should get temps
[15:25] <Ari-Yang> traplin, like this, http://pastebin.com/jA4hXtJm
[15:26] <traplin> Ari-Yang: http://pastebin.com/wXE2MNe9
[15:26] <Ari-Yang> traplin, you're on a desktop?
[15:26] <traplin> Ari-Yang: yes
[15:26] <m4k> rypervenche, yes installed
[15:26] <Ari-Yang> traplin, kk.
[15:27] <traplin> the .deb file is almost complete
[15:27] <rypervenche> m4k: Was it instaleld before, or did you just install it?
[15:27] <Ari-Yang> traplin, hope it completes fast because my laptop is gonna die soon.
[15:27] <m4k> rypervenche, no. Before it was not installed
[15:28] <rypervenche> m4k: Ok, delete the files and folders that were downloaded for gnome-terminal and bash and then re-run the "sudo apt-get source bash" and "sudo apt-get source gnome-terminal" commands.
[15:28] <traplin> Ari-Yang: must i just install the .deb and then reboot?
[15:28] <rypervenche> m4k: I personally like to be in /usr/src when I run those commands.
[15:28] <Ari-Yang> traplin, yes
[15:29] <traplin> Ari-Yang: okay. as soon as its done i will do so
[15:29] <Ari-Yang> you got the _smc.bin, you updated GRUB, so all you have to do is install the kernel then reboot
[15:29] <Ari-Yang> * kernel image*
[15:29] <traplin> Ari-Yang: okay, cool. hopefully it goes well
[15:29] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[15:30] <traplin> Ari-Yang: its worth to mention that my resolution since the change has been lowered and my screens are no mirrored (not extended)
[15:30] <Ari-Yang> traplin, and if you can't boot into ubuntu, select an old kernel version from GRUB
[15:30] <Ari-Yang> traplin, that's odd.... did you try changing your resolution from the resolution settings?
[15:30] <wachin> Hi to all, I need to help, I use Ubuntu One in UbuntuStudio 12.04.3 with ubuntuone-client-gnome for the integration with nautilus from Ubuntu
[15:30] <Ari-Yang> traplin, do you get anything wen you run sudo apt-get purge fglrx* ?
[15:31] <traplin> Ari-Yang: yeah, it does not list the maximum reso size for my screen, and i can't select the other screen
[15:31] <traplin> Ari-Yang: yes, fglrx* to be removed
[15:31] <Ari-Yang> okay, remove it
[15:32] <traplin> Ari-Yang: okay its been removed
[15:32] <gstevensgreg> SuperLag:
[15:32] <Ari-Yang> everything should go back to normal when you install the kernel and reboot
[15:32] <traplin> Ari-Yang: okay great
[15:32] <m4k> rypervenche, yeah done..
[15:32] <wachin> I format my Laptop Dell Inspiron 1750 where have installed ubuntuStudio 13.04 to downgrade to the UbuntuStudio 12.04.3 LTS the final update. Ubuntu One working fine in UbuntuStudio 12.04.3 but not in 12.04.3. The share link not appear properly.
[15:33] <wachin> I have nautilus 3.4.2 with Ubuntu One 3.0.1 with this on Synaptic:  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83295394/Ubuntu%20One/04%20Packages%20installed.png
[15:33] <wachin> In the next picture see that first appear ok: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83295394/Ubuntu%20One/01%20Ubuntu%20One%20and%20Nautilus%20-%20Problem%20to%20share%20link.png
[15:33] <Ari-Yang> I got 20min. left on my laptop... traplin if this doesn't work out, select a previous kernel version from grub,I think you have to select "advanced" or something from ubuntu
[15:33] <traplin> Ari-Yang: okay, don't worry. you've helped a lot already. if it doesn't boot i am sure i can find my way back in and revert
[15:34] <traplin> Ari-Yang: the download has 5 minutes left
[15:34] <m4k> rypervenche, yeah done..
[15:34] <m4k> rypervenche, yeah done..
[15:34] <wachin> After appear a ms that said that the File Is Not Public
[15:34] <wachin> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83295394/Ubuntu%20One/02%20Ubuntu%20One%20and%20Nautilus%20-%20Problem%20to%20share%20link%20-%20Note%20Not%20Public.png
[15:34] <rypervenche> m4k: You should be good now. cd into the bash or gnome-terminal directory and you will find all of the source files.
[15:34] <wachin> Ind next, you will see that Is Missing the option "Copy Share Link"
[15:34] <wachin> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83295394/Ubuntu%20One/03%20Ubuntu%20One%20and%20Nautilus%20-%20Problem%20to%20share%20link%20-%20Is%20Not%20Public.png
[15:34] <Ari-Yang> traplin, yeah from GRUB, if you want to boot previous kernel version go to "Advanced options"
[15:35] <traplin> Ari-Yang: okay cool
[15:35] <Ari-Yang> traplin, to see your current kernel version type uname -r
[15:35] <wachin> I dont understand why the nautilus integration not working fine with ubuntu one
[15:35] <Ari-Yang> in terminal
[15:35] <traplin> Ari-Yang: its http://pastebin.com/wXE2MNe9
[15:35] <traplin> sorry wrong link
[15:35] <traplin> 3.8.0-30-generic
[15:35] <Ari-Yang> okay
[15:35] <Ari-Yang> keep that in mind when wanting to boot into a previous working kernel
[15:36] <Ari-Yang> traplin, you're using ubuntu 64bit right?
[15:36] <traplin> Ari-Yang: yes
[15:36] <Ari-Yang> okay, so I linked the right .deb file (amd64)
[15:36] <traplin> Ari-Yang: yeah you did, its almost done
[15:36] <m4k> rypervenche, is thats in src directory inside the gnome-terminal directory
[15:36] <Ari-Yang> kk, highlight me after you installed and are about to reboot
[15:37] <Ari-Yang> traplin, if you manage to boot successfully, you should notice that your computer's temperature had dropped a bit (which is a good thing ofc)
[15:37] <m4k> rypervenche, is thats in /src directory inside the /gnome-terminal directory
[15:38] <SuperLag> gstevensgreg: you rang?
[15:39] <traplin> Ari-Yang: i hope so. it was sitting on 80 degrees at one point
[15:39] <dhaval2712> Does installing 32 bit libraries REPLACE the 64 bit libs?
[15:40] <dhaval2712> HEllo?
[15:41] <wheatthin> nope
[15:41] <dhaval2712> It does no damage at all, right wheatthin?
[15:41] <dhaval2712> They're separate libraries for whichever application needs it, right?
[15:41] <wheatthin> might wanna check for a multi-lib first
[15:41] <Quest> I am using ubuntu and  on 192.168.0.1 Gate way. ip is 192.168.0.200      when I start the vbox vm windows xp. how can i give it an ip of 192.168.0.201 on the same net mask/ gate way? what settings in network settings of virtual box do I need to use? Nat, brigded, or internal?
[15:42] <rypervenche> m4k: It depends on the package.
[15:42] <Ari-Yang> traplin, alright, I got to go, will be back in 1hr from now, good luck.
[15:42] <Akiva-Mobile> which channel is support for bazaar client?
[15:42] <traplin> Ari-Yang: thanks a lot for the help
[15:42] <traplin> Ari-Yang: highlight me when you get back
[15:42] <m4k> rypervenche, ok thank you so much helping me, awsome :-)
[15:43] <wheatthin> Quest, you must use bridge networking ethernet
[15:43] <Quest> wheatthin,  hm. what would bridged mean?
[15:43] <wheatthin> means using the same network mask & range as your physical ethernet
[15:43] <samrose> what is the best way to change the default window manager in ubuntu 13.04
[15:44] <wilee-nilee> samrose, The window manager is compiz in unity and the desktop is a plugin in it, what is your goal here.
[15:45] <samrose> wilee-nilee, hope to change to lfxe or similar alternate desktop, and have ubuntu 13.04 respect that
[15:45] <DippiSkate> is it ok to do updates from the guest session (providing root pass) or can this create problems?
[15:46] <wheatthin> samrose, it should be accessible using gdm session manager
[15:46] <wheatthin> once it's installed
[15:47] <wilee-nilee> samrose, lfxe? not familiar with it.
[15:47] <Quest> wheatthin,  doesnt seems to work.
[15:47] <samrose> wilee-nilee, heh sorry make that http://lxde.org/ and thanks wheatthin
[15:48] <wheatthin> Quest, it does, you just have to either restart your networking service in the vm, or restart the vm
[15:48] <Quest> wheatthin,  should i give ips manually in windows ethernet settings?
[15:48] <wheatthin> yes, if you want it to be a specific address, otherwise it'll try and use a random one
[15:48] <DippiSkate> is it ok to do updates from the guest session (providing root pass when requested) or can this create problems?
[15:49] <Pici> DippiSkate: it should be just fine.
[15:49] <wilee-nilee> samrose, lxde is just a install of it and choosing it at login.
[15:49] <DippiSkate> "should"?
[15:49] <brokenstein> samrose, should be able to sudo apt-get install lxde and then just log out and select lxde and login with user.. no probs..
[15:49] <DippiSkate> not 100% sure?
[15:49] <DippiSkate> i mean it's not 100% the same thing?
[15:50] <Pici> DippiSkate: I'm 100% sure
[15:50] <wheatthin> brokenstein, when not using gdm, there's some tweaking in order to get the "xsession" to list
[15:50] <DippiSkate> ok thanx
[15:51] <Quest> wheatthin,  limited or no connectivity
[15:51] <wheatthin> quest, you also have to set /etc/resolv.conf
[15:51] <Quest> wheatthin,  its windows xp
[15:51] <wheatthin> oh.. hmm
[15:51] <wheatthin> set the dns?
[15:52] <wheatthin> gateway and whatever?
[15:52] <Quest> wheatthin,  how can i know my dns server of my linux box/
[15:52] <Quest> wheatthin,  i know the gateway only
[15:52] <bibi23> hi, I have a web application using filesystem cache, there are many files and accessed on each request, instead of recoding it to use another caching system (memcached for eg.) I'd like to do this at OS level, I can see there is "tmpfs" and "ram disk", which one would fit the best for my situation?
[15:52] <wheatthin> cause it's the same IP as the router
[15:53] <lapt0p> Anyone knows if there is a way to turn off the laptop's Wi-Fi internal antenna and only use the USB Wi-Fi adapter?
[15:54] <wheatthin> laptop should have a radio button to disable it as a function key
[15:54] <villor> When installing ubuntu, the installer started to downlaod language packs? What's that all about? I chose english at the beginning of the install and now it says: "Downloading language packs (1236:46 remaining)..."
[15:55] <wheatthin> villor, it's multi-lingual multi-user
[15:56] <villor> nvm I managed to skip it
[15:57] <Quest> wheatthin,  V
[15:57] <Quest> wheatthin,  nameserver 127.0.1.1
[15:57] <wheatthin> no, that's loopback
[15:57] <Quest> wheatthin,  what it should be
[15:57] <wheatthin> nameserver is the IP of the router
[15:58] <wheatthin> so if your gateway is 192.168.0.1, then that's what it is
[16:01] <Quest> wheatthin,  you have team viewer?
[16:01] <wheatthin> sure dont
[16:01] <adsc> hey, can I install an Ubuntu in my Outlook?
[16:02] <wheatthin> outlook is e-mail right? lol
[16:02] <Quest> wheatthin,  you want to look at my desktop?
[16:02] <wheatthin> Quest, sure send me a screencap
[16:02] <adsc> wheatthin: is that a no?
[16:03] <brokenstein> Quest, are you using unity ?.. can you just click on the internet thingy on your deskbar and click on information << that should show you your primary DNS
[16:03] <wheatthin> lol adsc yes that was a no..
[16:03] <adsc> but why not? i thought it runs on PC and Mac and Phones and what not, why not in my Outlook?
[16:04] <wheatthin> adsc, outlook isn't a device, it's a program itself
[16:04] <adsc> but I heard you can install an Ubuntu in the Windows
[16:04] <wheatthin> you can, but it won't run within it.
[16:05] <wheatthin> unless it's a virtual machine
[16:05] <adsc> that doesn't matter, i just want to install in my Outlook
[16:05] <adsc> it can run outside, i don't really care
[16:05] <wheatthin> Outlook is an e-mail program. lol
[16:05] <adsc> yeah?
[16:05] <wheatthin> not an operating system
[16:05] <adsc> so it can't be done?
[16:05] <Quest> wheatthin, brokenstein  http://i41.tinypic.com/2whoy77.jpg
[16:05] <wheatthin> definitely not
[16:06] <adsc> hmmm, too bad
[16:06] <tmmunq> internet vs online: which is better?
[16:06] <adsc> well, maybe it will get there sometime
[16:06] <Quest> wheatthin, brokenstein  http://oi41.tinypic.com/2whoy77.jpg
[16:06] <adsc> Outlook is really my main program, and I want everything to install in there
[16:07] <Quest> wheatthin, brokenstein  see the wlan0 ips too
[16:07] <kostkon> adsc: your logic is weird, sorry
[16:07] <adsc> kostkon: you don't like Outlook?
[16:07] <Myrtti> adsc: you're either totally clueless of what you want, or you're just amusing yourself with getting people to try to help you. Either way, get a grip.
[16:08] <private01> nihao
[16:08] <brokenstein> Quest, what are you trying to do ?.. have your vbox running in the same ip subnet as your linux box ?..
[16:08] <kostkon> adsc: outlook is fine
[16:08] <Quest> brokenstein,  yes
[16:08] <adsc> Myrtti: probably clueless then, but thought it can't hurt to ask
[16:09] <Quest> brokenstein,  exactly
[16:09] <brokenstein> you can do that from the settings in virtualbox
[16:09] <wheatthin> Quest, alternate dns should be the same as your gateway 192.168.0.1
[16:09] <brokenstein> power off vbox and go to the settings for it
[16:09] <adsc> i just think that outlook is one of the best computer programs ever and should be made the standard so that all other programs like Ubuntu can install therein
[16:09] <epifanio> hi All
[16:09] <Myrtti> adsc: asking if Ubuntu can be installed within Outlook is like asking if you can install a car into a boat engine
[16:09] <adsc> i see
[16:10] <OerHeks> Myrtti, closed source boat engine*
[16:10] <epifanio> i'm tring to boot ubuntu from dvd on a new mac .. but the boot stops at the screen :  loading bootlogo
[16:10] <adsc> well, if the boat engine is large enough, it could work
[16:10] <adsc> outlook is pretty big
[16:10] <Myrtti> adsc: no, not really.
[16:10] <erkkimon> Hi! I just created a name-based virtual host. I've done this dozens of times but nothing like this has never happened: http://apologetiikkawiki.fi
[16:10] <adsc> i think it could fit an Ubuntu
[16:10] <epifanio> do you have any clue on how to install ubuntu on new mac's ?
[16:10] <erkkimon> Why does virtual host "redirect" instead of acting as a "virtual host"? Some weird setting somewhere?
[16:10] <Myrtti> adsc: you've already been told several times that it hasn't been, isn't and probably won't be possible.
[16:11] <adsc> yeah, i know
[16:11] <wheatthin> erkkimon, as in web server?
[16:11] <Myrtti> adsc: did you have any other questions relating to Ubuntu?
[16:11] <adsc> i'll shut up now
[16:11] <erkkimon> wheatthin: Yeah. Apache2 + a2ensite/sites-enabled.
[16:11] <agrester> Hey guys, I'm trying to remote desktop to my system using RDP but for some reason only VNC works, how can I fix this?
[16:11] <adsc> well, if you're asking, what about Excel? Can it be installed in Excel? Cause excel is the second best program I know.
[16:12] <Myrtti> adsc: what do you think.
[16:12] <Myrtti> no.
[16:12] <adsc> too bad
[16:12] <wheatthin> erkkimon, it's cause it's apaches way of doing a cheap dns... otherwise you need a internal dns server for proper redirects
[16:12] <adsc> can it be installed in any other Microsoft programs besides Windows?
[16:12] <adsc> maybe PowerPoint?
[16:12] <Myrtti> adsc: it can't be installed within windows itself even.
[16:12] <wheatthin> resolution*
[16:12] <erkkimon> wheatthin: I have domain of my own. I'm just migrating the wiki from a server to another.
[16:12] <erkkimon> wheatthin: The server is mine and the domain is mine.
[16:13] <adsc> Myrtti: then what is this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-with-windows
[16:13] <erkkimon> wheatthin: It worked on my previous server.
[16:13] <brokenstein> Quest, once you get to the settings for that vm select bridge network and ok that. and start box it should pick up and address from the router the linux box is picking an address aswell
[16:13] <adsc> it seems it can even be installed in Internet Explorer
[16:13] <adsc> so why not Outlook?
[16:13] <Myrtti> adsc: you can install it within a virtual machine that basically pretends to be a whole another computer, or alongside windows, but it can't be installed into Windows
[16:13] <adsc> can it be installed in a virtual machine within Outlook too?
[16:14] <adsc> or just within Windows?
[16:14] <Myrtti> adsc: I have to give you a fair warning now, I'm getting tired of amusing you, so just stop.
[16:14] <adsc> alright...no idea what the warning is for, but you specificially asked whether i had further questions
[16:15] <Myrtti> adsc: yeah, I get bored playing with timesinks, sorry about that
[16:16] <chaotic_good> migration/2 is eating 90% of cpu
[16:16] <ped1> Hi
[16:16] <chaotic_good> I see this is a kernel process
[16:16] <chaotic_good> whats it doing?
[16:16] <agrester> Anyone know a bit about remote desktop?
[16:16] <kalekip1> I am now on Ubuntu! I almost gave up
[16:16] <kalekip1> :D
[16:16] <oaulakh> hey i need help
[16:17] <kalekip1> Hi, oaulakh. What do you  need help with?
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> !yay | kalekip1
[16:17] <oaulakh> i forgot the passwd of my ubuntu and want to recover it
[16:18] <kalekip1> Did you search the forums?
[16:18] <oaulakh> nope
[16:18] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[16:18] <tmmunq> request it from the nsa under freedom of information
[16:19] <Pual> I have a question. How I remaster large ubuntu iso for my personal use in live usb?
[16:19] <Pual> >4gb
[16:19] <polter> tmmunq: lol
[16:19] <wilee-nilee> Pual, You don't
[16:19] <kalekip1> oaulakh: it would be nice if you spent like 15 minutes on Googling. You're actually wasting people's time. We're glad to help people, but if people aren't ready to spend some time...
[16:19] <oaulakh> i didthanks it works
[16:20] <OerHeks> !password | oaulakh
[16:20] <oaulakh> thanks thanks veeryyyy
[16:20] <oaulakh> much
[16:20] <kalekip1> ubottu: He found the solution already ;)
[16:20] <wilee-nilee> Pual, I miss read that you can remaster it in the OS.
[16:20] <kalekip1> xD
[16:21] <wilee-nilee> Paul, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[16:21] <agrester> I'm trying to log into my machine remotely and it just says "connecting to Server" and never connects
[16:21] <oaulakh> i need more help here
[16:22] <polter> agrester: is the port open?
[16:22] <agrester> polter, which port should it be?
[16:22] <kalekip1> Does anybody know how to disable letters like "ḿńṕý"? I keep writing them. I understand that it should be fine for a e o u i... but for letters like "ḿ" it can be highly annoying. This is on Ubuntu.
[16:22] <kalekip1> I have an international Qwerty keyboard
[16:22] <hike_> I have a weird issue this morning... I was prompted to update some packges and after doing so an rebooting I can't login to the desktop anymore, after doing so I just get bounced back to the login screen. (I still can SSH into the box) (Ubuntu desktop 13.04 running Gnome)
[16:23] <hike_> anybody got an idea what could be wrong?
[16:23] <praeconium> Hi guys I can ssh into my server while comps are in one wireless network, but when they are not, I cannot connect.. I am doing smth wrong with IP I suppose. Is ifconfig enough to find out ip for ssh access outside of servers network?
[16:23] <polter> agrester: well, that depends on what server you're running and what protocol
[16:23] <agrester> RDP for xrdp
[16:24] <oaulakh> i want to learn programming in c/c++
[16:24] <oaulakh> but i dunno where to start
[16:24] <Pual> wilee-nilee: but how to bypass 4gb limit. What is default command
[16:24] <agrester> polter, I want to use RDP and have installed xrdp
[16:24] <kalekip1> oaulakh: Your first language?
[16:24] <oaulakh> english
[16:24] <wilee-nilee> Paul, no idea
[16:24] <kalekip1> oaulakh: Search on Youtube: thenewboston
[16:24] <kalekip1> oaulakh: I meant programming language :p
[16:25] <oaulakh> one thing more how you send msg in red like that
[16:25] <adsc> there is a #programming channel here oaulakh
[16:25] <polter> agrester: some googling tells me that it's port 3389 that you need
[16:25] <lazors> This message contains your nickname, oaulakh.
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> hike_, Did you install a graphic driver from the ubuntu repos?
[16:25] <kalekip1> oaulakh: it's called mentioning: type my name exactly and it will be red too
[16:25] <oaulakh> wow
[16:26] <oaulakh> oaulakh
[16:26] <OerHeks> !tab
[16:26] <kalekip1> oaulakh: I actually don't see it, because I am using Pidgin, another IRC client.
[16:26] <oaulakh> nothing happens
[16:26] <oaulakh> okkk
[16:26] <oaulakh> am using xchat
[16:26] <kalekip1> ubottu: ty, I didn know that! :p
[16:26] <oaulakh> and i can see it
[16:26] <hike_> wilee-nilee, I'm running Ubuntu inside VirtualBox, just re-installed guest additions... haven't explicitly installed a different graphics driver from a repo
[16:27] <kalekip1> oaulakh: that's fine. For everybody it is different (depends on IRC client)
[16:27] <chaotic_good>  I see migration/2 a kernel process eating 90% of cpu  when I use bash, is this something worrying?
[16:27] <chaotic_good> (9:26:44 AM) chaotic_good: top shows nothing of the sort
[16:27] <oaulakh> yeah right
[16:27] <kalekip1> oaulakh: I can send you a screenshot if you are really curious xD
[16:27] <agrester> polter, where did you see that?
[16:27] <oaulakh> okkk
[16:27] <OerHeks> chaotic_good, does 'top' show you 'Zombies' ?
[16:28] <kalekip1> oaulakh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvC1WCdV1XU&list=PLAE85DE8440AA6B83&index=1
[16:29] <oaulakh> its too good
[16:29] <oaulakh> playlist
[16:29] <oaulakh> but i'm also want to
[16:29] <oaulakh> describe here more that
[16:30] <oaulakh> i want to learn programming for hardware programming
[16:30] <oaulakh> means making device drivers
[16:30] <oaulakh> like self made devices
[16:31] <oaulakh> please if you can help?
[16:31] <kalekip1> oaulakh: Just watch those C++ tutorials. If you don't learn the basics, you won't learn anything :p
[16:31] <Pici> !offtopic
[16:31] <oaulakh> okkk
[16:31] <oaulakh> you are right
[16:31] <oaulakh> best compiler?
[16:31] <Pual> join #remastersys
[16:31] <oaulakh> for c++
[16:32] <kalekip1> oaulakh: lol, join another channel? xD
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> Pual, /join #remastersys
[16:32] <epifanio> any guidance on how to boot ubuntu on new mac ?
[16:32] <kalekip1> Does anybody knows a nice wallpaper?
[16:33] <oaulakh> i know
[16:33] <lazors> !mac | epifanio
[16:33] <oaulakh> just download bootutility
[16:33] <lazors> epifanio: (not sure what you mean by new mac, but check it out)
[16:33] <kalekip1> epifanio: There are also many tutorials for it.
[16:33] <oaulakh> make your pandrive bootalbe
[16:34] <agrester> polter, worked awesome!
[16:34] <Nanouk> slt
[16:34] <oaulakh> then boot it and also plug or insert your ubuntu
[16:34] <oaulakh> cd or usb
[16:36] <kalekip1> I'm looking for a clean, nice looking wallpaper. Why can't people make that?! -.-'
[16:36] <compdoc> kalekip1, the color blue is nice
[16:36] <kostkon> kalekip1: wallbase.cc
[16:36] <SuPerUsER> oaulakh: install grub2 on USB drive and boot from ISO using grub
[16:36] <kalekip1> compdoc: Yes, I know. But I can't find a good one kostkon: ty, I'll check it out
[16:37] <lazors> kalekip1: $ xsetroot -solid "#C1CDC1"
[16:37] <oaulakh> download it http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/files/file/64-bootdisk-utility/
[16:37] <nezZario> php5 package is still at 5.4.9 ?
[16:37] <nezZario> in raring
[16:38] <oaulakh> and make your pan drive bootable for mac with ubuntu
[16:39] <kalekip1> oaulakh: pendrive* I thought it was just a typo, but you seem to misunderstood it :p
[16:40] <oaulakh> then he is asking exactly
[16:40] <kalekip1> How can I minimize everything with 1 hotkey?
[16:40] <oaulakh> then what he is asking exactly
[16:41] <kalekip1> oaulakh: not pan drive (or pandrive), but pendrive.
[16:41] <brokenstein> kalekip1, ctrl + Super + D
[16:41] <kalekip1> brokenstein: ty.
[16:41] <oaulakh> hahahha
[16:41] <bibi23> hi, I have a web application using filesystem cache, there are many files and accessed on each request, instead of recoding it to use another caching system (memcached for eg.) I'd like to do this at OS level, I can see there is "tmpfs" and "ram disk", which one would fit the best for my situation?
[16:42] <oaulakh> right
[16:42] <Ari-Yang> hmmm... did anybody notice if traplin joined this channel and said everything worked out or not?
[16:43] <kalekip1> ary-yang: The guy from 2 hours ago? Yeah, kinda :p
[16:43] <Ari-Yang> kalekip1, oh? mind doing a pastebin for me? :3
[16:43] <kalekip1> Ari-Yang: I am now on Ubuntu xD
[16:44] <traplin> Ari-Yang: okay, it worked fine
[16:44] <kalekip1> Ari-Yang: I managed it to dual boot. (yay) I previously was on Windows and used Quassel IRC. Now I have Pidgin, so I don have it.
[16:44] <Ari-Yang> kalekip1, uh, okay... do I know you?
[16:44] <Ari-Yang> traplin, so no heating up?
[16:44] <kalekip1> Ari-Yang: Nah, I was just some random guy from 2h ago
[16:45] <traplin> Ari-Yang: at the moment, no. just need to fix my WNA3100 wireless adapter now
[16:45] <Ari-Yang> traplin, is that proprietary?
[16:45] <Ari-Yang> traplin, do you notice any difference in performance?
[16:45] <traplin> Ari-Yang: yeah, things seem MUCH smoother
[16:45] <oaulakh> am also on dual boot
[16:45] <kalekip1> So like I said, I dual booted Ubuntu with Windows 7. The problem is that GRUB doesn't find Windows. How can I add it?
[16:45] <Ari-Yang> traplin, ah, that's great.
[16:46] <traplin> Ari-Yang: and the WNA3100 requires ndisrwapper, so hopefully it works with this kernel
[16:46] <oaulakh> ubuntu + windows8 + mac 10.8.2
[16:46] <oaulakh> sorry its triple boot
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> traplin, if it's proprietary it won't
[16:46] <kalekip1> oaulakh: Sorry, but Mac sucks :p
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> you'll have to use DKMS or something to build it for that kernel
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> and that requires you to download the kernel headers...
[16:47] <traplin> Ari-Yang: ahh, and i have no clue on that
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> traplin, what's wrong with using the kernel's wifi driver?
[16:47] <oaulakh> but its beautiful in its own way
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> yeah, neither do I, I just know of it
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> http://www.botchco.com/agd5f/?p=57 take a look at that
[16:47] <traplin> Ari-Yang: well it does pick up that the wireless adapter is attached but doesn't seem to use it
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> ah...
[16:48] <Ari-Yang> traplin, type this in terminal and pastebin the output dmesg | grep dpm and dmesg | grep power
[16:48] <oaulakh> so i learn many things from these setups
[16:48] <Ari-Yang> traplin, and pastebin the current temperature of your desktop (sensors)
[16:48] <oaulakh> many times i crash my computer and vanishes all data in next boot
[16:49] <traplin> Ari-Yang: http://pastebin.com/JugsHFP1
[16:49] <Ari-Yang> traplin, also,  nothing weird during boot up? like did ubuntu boot up just fine?
[16:49] <traplin> Ari-Yang: gives me one error, about not loading a radeon driver (forgot the name), and its like 30 seconds longer. otherwise just fine
[16:49] <kalekip1> What was the programmers channel again? :p
[16:50] <Ari-Yang> traplin, resolution is fine, yes?
[16:50] <traplin> Ari-Yang: yeah, and screens are extended fine
[16:50] <Ari-Yang> traplin, type dmesg in terminal and pastebin and link me
[16:51] <traplin> Ari-Yang: http://pastebin.com/22Fy4Y6J
[16:53] <issackelly> df is showing 100% disk usage on my private home directory, yesterday it was 16, and I don't have anything that should be taking it up.  I'm not sure where to look for what's using it
[16:53] <Rad-> My VM boots to a black screen instead of tty1. How do I fix that?
[16:54] <Ari-Yang> traplin, tbh I don't notice anything wrong... but so far it sounds like everything is just fine... so your programs aren't slow? like scrolling in that text editor of yours
[16:54] <wheatthin> Rad-, you can try changing your resolution to 16bit
[16:54] <traplin> Ari-Yang: nope, scrolling seems to be fine, and Chrome also isn't sluggish anymore
[16:55] <traplin> Ari-Yang: also Jupiter shows a lot less load
[16:55] <praeconium> Hi guys, I can ssh into my server while comps are in same wireless network, but when they are not, I can not. How can that occur?
[16:55] <Ari-Yang> traplin, nice ^_^ glad everything worked out
[16:55] <Rad-> wheatthin: uh...
[16:55] <traplin> Ari-Yang:  thanks :D once this wireless issue is sorted, it should work perfectly
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> praeconium  if there's no network connection, you have no access
[16:56] <Ari-Yang> traplin, alright, good luck
[16:56] <unknown101> is opera 8.00 version released in linux
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> praeconium  do you also have a cable connection?
[16:56] <praeconium> MonkeyDust, I have connection to internet on both computers.
[16:56] <praeconium> No, its wireless.
[16:56] <riqdiiz> i have a HUAWEI modem that looks weird in dmesg.It is not seen as ttyUSB or ttyACM what is the other value for like such?
[16:56] <praeconium> On both.
[16:56] <praeconium> It must be due to IP address, but I cant figure out what is "outside" IP I guess?
[16:57] <mathomastech> Hey all! I need some help hooking up Evolution to an exchange account. Anyone have experience with that?
[16:57] <wheatthin> praeconium, http://checkip.dyndns.org
[16:58] <traplin> Ari-Yang: seems ndiswrapper won't work with this kernel unfortunately :/
[16:58] <wheatthin> Ari-Yang, are you from hotline?
[16:59] <Ari-Yang> wheatthin, hotline?... what's that? and no
[16:59] <wheatthin> lol k... it's an old irc like protocol.. I have a friend with the same username there
[17:00] <Ari-Yang> wheatthin, oh o_o;
[17:00] <Ari-Yang> traplin, if ndiswrapper is some proprietary driver, then it won't work unless you build it or something with DKMS :S which I don't really know how to do myself.
[17:04]  * kalekip1 is looking for a cool wallpaper.
[17:05] <Rad-> Wait wheatthin why do i need to change resolution. i CAN get into it if i try to switch to tty1 manually.
[17:06] <wheatthin> I see.. well tty1 is console.. default should be tty7 I think
[17:06] <Rad-> wheatthin: i don't want it to boot into tty7. i don't have a login manager.
[17:07] <kalekip1> GRUB doesn't show Windows, while I do have Windows installed. How can I add it?
[17:08] <wheatthin> kalekip1, gotta add it to menu.lst I believe
[17:08] <kalekip1> wheatthin: Where can I do that?
[17:09] <wheatthin> kalekip1, thereabouts in /boot/grub/
[17:09] <Rad-> kalekip1: in a text editor
[17:11] <kalekip1> I'm in /boot/grub/ But I can't find menu.lst
[17:11] <compdoc> kalekip1, dont think it works that way anymore
[17:11] <casper_> moin... ich habe nen kleines problem... ich wollte Virtualbox installieren... klappt auch aber ich bekomme beim start eine fehlermeldung dass ich ein bestimmtest paket installieren soll... dies ist aber bereits installiert
[17:11] <kalekip1> Awww. I am using Ub 13.04
[17:11] <kalekip1> casper_: Englisch, bitte.
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> !de
[17:13] <kalekip1> So what else can I do then?
[17:13] <LrdArc> my ubuntu not detected the usb tv tuner as /dev/videoX .. this is the last dmesg http://pastebin.com/z58bS7tv
[17:14] <kalekip1> LrdArc: Try another USB port
[17:14] <kalekip1> LrdArc: Did you try that?
[17:14] <LrdArc> i did
[17:14] <Rad-> ah found a solution thanks wheatthin
[17:14] <Rad-> edit grub defaults
[17:14] <kalekip1> ?
[17:15] <wheatthin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[17:15] <Rad-> kalekip1: check if you wiped windows first lol
[17:15] <LrdArc> but it still, i'd guess it something about the driver
[17:15] <traplin> Ari-Yang: back on windows 8. the kernel didn't pick up any of my sound drives either, and going back to the older generics gave me errors :/
[17:15] <kalekip1> Rad-: nope, I have C:/Windows/*
[17:15] <kalekip1> and other stuff
[17:16] <wheatthin> traplin, could be module conflicts, try looking for errors?
[17:16] <Rad-> -_- i meant check the partition?
[17:16] <kalekip1> Rad-: Not sure how to do that on Ubuntu
[17:16] <kalekip1> xD
[17:17] <SolarisBoy> kalekip1: try sudo fdisk -l and see if you still see the windows partition there -
[17:18] <kalekip1>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[17:18] <kalekip1> /dev/sda1               1  1953525167   976762583+  ee  GPT
[17:18] <kalekip1> D:
[17:19] <Rad-> only one partition kalekip1 ?
[17:19] <Rad-> are you sure you didn't wipe windows?
[17:19] <kalekip1> Rad-: The partition seems to be gone.
[17:20] <wheatthin> OUCH~!
[17:20] <wheatthin> is it the complete size of your hard disk?
[17:20] <kalekip1> Rad-: I have C:/, D:/ and L:/ How ever. Windows is installed on C:/ Ubuntu on L:/
[17:20] <wheatthin> the partition in the fdisk
[17:20] <kalekip1> 1TB, yes.
[17:21] <wheatthin> kalekip1, can you pastebinit frisk -l
[17:21] <Rad-> .. kalekip1  let's backtrack. i have 6% of battery left. first question: how did oyu install ubuntu? USB? CD?
[17:21] <wheatthin> errr
[17:21] <wheatthin> fdisk -l
[17:21] <Ari-Yang> traplin, what sound drivers? ._.
[17:21] <kalekip1> rad-: USB
[17:22] <kalekip1> With the Universal tool
[17:22] <Ari-Yang> traplin, I'm afk, good luck with any difficulties you have
[17:23] <kalekip1> wheatthin: fdisk -l doesn't return anything.
[17:23] <wheatthin> kalekip1, sudo fdisk -l
[17:23] <kalekip1> wheatthin: just did :p
[17:23] <Rad-> pastebin the results kalekip1
[17:24] <wheatthin> pastebinit sudo fdisk -l
[17:24] <kalekip1> Ugh internet is slow
[17:24] <Rad-> wheatthin:  pastebinit is still a thing?
[17:25] <wheatthin> yup.. it just uses pastebin lol
[17:25] <Rad-> lol
[17:25] <Rad-> arch started using curl and sprunge
[17:25] <kalekip1> unable to read from: sudo
[17:25] <SolarisBoy> umm
[17:25] <SolarisBoy> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[17:25] <SolarisBoy> ^
[17:26] <wheatthin> or     pastebinit "sudo fdisk -l"
[17:26] <wheatthin> either works
[17:26] <kalekip1> SolarisBoy: ty. Rad-, wheatthin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6115862/
[17:27] <unknown101> exit
[17:27] <wheatthin> ouch
[17:27] <kalekip1> What browser do you guys use? FF is so slow atm
[17:27] <wheatthin> kalekip1, looks like only one drive
[17:27] <wheatthin> I use chrome
[17:27] <kalekip1> Chromium?
[17:27] <SolarisBoy> chrome - but if the the net is slow switching browsers may not help much -
[17:27] <SolarisBoy> try to see why it's slow, dns, cache, etc etc.
[17:27] <SolarisBoy> before swapping browsers atleast
[17:28] <kalekip1> What's the hotkey for Task manager? (Or something alike)
[17:28] <Rad-> kalekip1: ps -u <use>
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[17:29] <SolarisBoy> there is system monitor by default if your looking for something like task manager - you can also install htop its a little smoother
[17:29] <SolarisBoy> DASH > "system monitor"
[17:29] <Rad-> comp is aboutto die see you
[17:30] <kalekip1> Is there something like the windows snippet tool?
[17:31] <SolarisBoy> never heard of that one =(
[17:31] <konjuzius> kalekip1: shutter is pretty great i hear
[17:31] <kalekip1> Instead of Prt Sc, I want to print a limited area
[17:31] <SolarisBoy> shutter is awesome
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> !info shutter
[17:32] <kalekip1> I think I'm going to reboot my pc. I feel laggish :3
[17:37] <tcb^ll3r> where does rhythmbox store its config files, and music library list?
[17:39] <SolarisBoy> tcb^ll3r: ~/.local/share/rhythmbox
[17:41] <unknown101> where i can find programming ircs?
[17:41] <kalekip1> unknown101: Which one do you want?
[17:43] <kalekip1> unknown101: You might want to go to #ubuntu-programming
[17:43] <unknown101> okay
[17:43] <Pici> unknown101: Theres ##programming as well as many other channels for speicific languages.
[17:44] <kalekip1> He wantst C and Python
[17:44] <Pici> ##C and #python then
[17:44] <unknown101> okay thanks guys
[17:47] <Rory> kalekip1: You can set up keyboard shortcuts in the Keyboard settings (Shortcuts tab), so you can bind Ctrl+Alt+Del to gnome-system-monitor, the command to start System Monitor.
[17:52] <chaotic_good> how can you list which processes are eating i/o?
[17:52] <mustmodify> is this the appropriate channel to ask about start-stop-daemon?
[17:52] <chaotic_good> like ps aux can for cpu?
[17:53] <kalekip1> mustmodify: If it gets too much off-topic, then yes. Otherwise it'll be fine
[17:53] <Pici> chaotic_good: I use htop and sort by io rate.
[17:53] <Rory> chaotic_good: You can also install the "iotop" package which provides a program by the name name
[17:54] <Rory> chaotic_good: However, htop is a very useful thing to have around anyway.
[17:54] <Pici> chaotic_good: theres also iostat, but I think thats more for figuring out which device(s) are being impacted.
[17:57] <kalekip1> How can I disable the IRC leave and join msgs?
[17:57] <DJones> kalekip1: Which client are you using
[17:57] <kalekip1> DJones: Pidgin
[17:58] <DJones> kalekip1: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/hide_join_part_messages#Pidgin_.28aka_Gaim.29
[17:59] <kalekip1> DJones: thanks...
[18:07] <kishan> hello
[18:07] <kishan> i m using xubuntu
[18:08] <ChogyDan> kishan: just ask your question, and try for all in one line
[18:10] <Guest97488> hi
[18:10] <Guest97488> oooooooo
[18:12] <Simpson_2> hi, I have gnome ubuntu 13.04 , pulseaudio shows my plantronics headset input + output, the gnome applet only shows the output
[18:12] <zdot> hey
[18:13] <zdot> i must say that i installed ubuntu since a longer time and i'm bloody suprised
[18:14] <zdot> i find unity very usefull and slick
[18:16] <zdot> i've installed it on a computer i don't really care much about cause i needed something i'd not have to take care of much
[18:16] <ChogyDan> Simpson_2: do you want it to show up in the panel applet?  (I won't know either way.  My applet only shows master volume.  I have to enter the pavcontrol to adjust anything else)
[18:16] <karab44> hello
[18:17] <karab44> where I can find users and groups management in 13.04?
[18:17] <SolarisBoy> w
[18:17] <SolarisBoy> meh thats not vim =).
[18:17] <Simpson_2> ChogyDan, I would at least be able to select it for e.g. linphone
[18:18] <ChogyDan> Simpson_2: can you do that through the pulse audio control?
[18:19] <Simpson_2> ChogyDan, which command is that ?
[18:20] <ChogyDan> Simpson_2: click the icon in the panel, then click sound settings
[18:20] <ChogyDan> Simpson_2: or pavucontrol
[18:21] <juboba> hey
[18:21] <juboba> how can I start a custom X session?
[18:22] <juboba> is this even possible in Ubuntu?
[18:22] <juboba> I tried lots of ways
[18:22] <Simpson_2> ChogyDan, okay thats a good tip, that works !
[18:23] <somson> ?_?
[18:25] <linuxnewbie> hello, i have two network cards and i always get the default gw from eth1...is there any way i can change this (from network-manger or from another file) in order that default gw will be the one from  eth0 ?
[18:25] <linuxnewbie> the two cards are from different providers if this is important
[18:30] <Rallias> What's the GPT equivelant to fdisk?
[18:32] <neurotus>  linuxnewbie: sudo route add default gw ip.address
[18:32] <linuxnewbie> neurotus, this is a temporary fix ... do you know how can i set this as permanent ?
[18:33] <neurotus> sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[18:34] <neurotus> Find eth0 or desired network interface and add following option
[18:34] <neurotus> gateway 192.168.1.254
[18:34] <neurotus> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:35] <konjuzius> can anyone tell me why hotot in ubuntu is all broken? it worked fine in debian testing
[18:35] <linuxnewbie> neurotus, btw when i restart networking ubuntu crashes ...is this happen to u too ?
[18:35] <dbrwn> Hello
[18:35] <linuxnewbie> i'll try to use gateway in interfaces
[18:36] <neurotus> linuxnewbie: nope. it should not imo crash
[18:38] <neurotus> -> cigarette
[18:44] <pppktz> hi everyone, I am new on linux(ubuntu) and i need someone who could help me how to solve my problem to make a video player on my home made webpage via apache
[18:45] <ChogyDan> pppktz: are you making this webpage in some sort of web language?
[18:48] <luigi> HI
[18:48] <Guest70526> There is someone who can help me please
[18:49] <Guest70526> ?
[18:49] <smallfoot> GNOME Flashback doesn't work for me in 13.10 Saucy
[18:50] <smallfoot> Is there any place where the session is logged?
[18:50] <OerHeks> !saucy | smallfoot
[18:52] <mustmodify> what's the opposite of sudo update-rc.d -f some_app ??? I mean, how do I remove it from that list?
[18:52] <luis__> hi all, there is a way to assign text to a shortcut???
[18:52] <luis__> in ubuntu or in preference xubuntu?
[18:54] <osmosis> at boot I get, 'Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)'   how do I resolve?  Is the answer in the grub conf?
[18:54] <dev_> Anyone know why the version of nginx supplied from the Ubuntu repos is so far behind the official rc?
[18:55] <Walex> dev_: probably because that's the last stable version.
[18:57] <linuxnewbie> mustmodify, if u want to remove a service then update-rc.d -f service remove ...if u want to add update-rc.d service_name defaults
[18:58] <mustmodify> linuxnewbie: thanks
[19:00] <luis__> is no way??
[19:01] <kostkon> !ask | luis__
[19:02] <funky1> i have a directory X with +500 subfolders that are all mounted in directory X by using "mount --bind" from different harddrives on that system, is there any way  that i can have only directory X as an export/share in nfs and the client side would be able to see the content of the subdirectories as well?
[19:03] <ChanSavr> tcp6       0      0 :::8080                 :::*                    LISTEN
[19:03] <bekks> funky1: no_subtree_check ;)
[19:03] <ChanSavr> how do I find out what this is?
[19:05] <ChogyDan> ChanSavr: maybe you have a testing webserver running?
[19:05] <ChanSavr> ChogyDan: then I want to kill it
[19:06] <Pici> ChanSavr: sudo netstat -tanp    will show the process names
[19:06] <ChanSavr> tcp6       0      0 :::8080                 :::*                    LISTEN      447/docker
[19:06] <ChanSavr> mofos
[19:07] <Pici> ChanSavr: mind your language and attitude please.
[19:07] <osmosis> how do I chroot into a ubuntu root partition?
[19:08] <ChogyDan> osmosis: from where, for what?
[19:09] <osmosis> ChogyDan, at boot I am getting  Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[19:09] <funky1> bekks: already have that "192.168.2.0/24(rw,insecure,nohide,no_subtree_check,async)"
[19:09] <osmosis> ChogyDan, so i have the /boot and root mounted on another machine
[19:09] <funky1> doesn't work
[19:09] <osmosis> ChogyDan, trying to figure out how to fix
[19:10] <luis__> hi, there is a way to set text to a shortcut???
[19:10] <geco2>  /msg NickServ geco22_
[19:10] <ChogyDan> osmosis: there used to be decent directions on setting up a chroot on the grub2 page, let me check
[19:11] <osmosis> ChogyDan, or any other path besides using chroot to get this machine booting. maybe a way to do it from the grub boot menu...though its not showing up right now , probably 0 second display
[19:12] <bekks> funky1: maybe you want to add "no_root_squash"
[19:12] <osmosis> actually i think maybe I ended up with an invalid grub conf somehow because /boot partition filled up with ubuntu linux kernel auto installs
[19:13] <Tasf> anyone from India? m Indian here
[19:13] <ovidiu-florin> is zlib part of the ubuntu packages? or do I have to provide it with my application?
[19:14] <ChogyDan> osmosis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[19:14] <trism> !info zlib1g | ovidiu-florin
[19:14] <ChogyDan> osmosis: man, the grub2 pages have gotten quite scattered
[19:15] <Kuehlschrank> Hello. I was trying to install Ubuntu 12.04.3 via DVD. The boot got stuck at a black screen with a blinking cursor. Am I right, that this happens, because there's something wrong with DVD drive support and I need a bootable USB ? (Mid 2012 Mac Pro 13'' , Mac OS X 10.8.4, rEFIt 0.14, used image: ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64+mac.iso) Thanks in advance.
[19:15] <trism> ovidiu-florin: we also have a -dev version of that package for building other packages
[19:15] <Tasf> ANyone from india
[19:15] <ovidiu-florin> perfect
[19:15] <Tasf> message me
[19:15] <Tasf> :P
[19:15] <Tasf> also I need Ubuntu help
[19:15] <ovidiu-florin> thanks trism
[19:15] <FloodBot1> Tasf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:15] <Pici> !india | Tasf
[19:15] <Tasf> ok
[19:16] <funky1> bekks: tried that, doesn't work, other ideas?
[19:17] <feeshon> I am reaching my limit to backups and need to to prune the amount. Is there a way to prune rsnapshot backups?
[19:17] <bekks> funky1: maybe try "crossmnt"
[19:23] <Walex> feeshon: isn't each backup in its own directory?
[19:24] <funky1> bekks: nope :(
[19:26] <osmosis> ChogyDan, that worked. thanks
[19:26] <luigi_> hi
[19:26] <ChogyDan> osmosis: cool, great
[19:26] <osmosis> ChogyDan, was able to chroot and remove the old kernels, looks like it will boot again
[19:26] <Cheekio> Hey all
[19:26] <luigi_> there are someone who can help me please?
[19:27] <ChogyDan> luigi_: just ask your question, and try to keep it to one line
[19:27] <kalekip1> Hi
[19:27] <chalaza> hello
[19:28] <kalekip1> Does anybody know how I can unhide Windows?
[19:28] <kalekip1> in GRUB
[19:28] <karab44> how to finally set presistently environment variables in 13.04 ?
[19:29] <luigi_> I have a problem with screenlets. I cant add a widget on my desktop. When I add this widget on my desktop I have this stuff http://postimg.org/image/ewn7h9qkd/
[19:29] <sulo_> Good evening or afternoon :)
[19:29] <karab44> Let's say I would like to know for seasion as well as for system-wide
[19:30] <luigi_> I reinstall thiss app lot of time but nothing help.
[19:30] <luigi_> I dont know where is problem.
[19:32] <luigi_> Hmm?
[19:33] <kalekip1> luigi_: This is a place where random people talk. You can't expect a geek helping you out :p
[19:33] <kalekip1> luigi_: But if they're online, then you're lucky.
[19:33] <luigi_> So what can I do?
[19:34] <ovidiu-florin> what is the difference between a normal package and a -dev package?
[19:34] <jhutchins> !screenlets
[19:34] <luigi_> Just wait?
[19:34] <mustmodify> can I copy entries from /etc/shadow to another machine? I mean, I can ... will it allow them to authenticate?
[19:34] <mcoffee> I've noticed that DigitalOcean has this really nice installer, that installs a very minimal version of Ubuntu. Where can I get such an installer that I can use locally?
[19:34] <jhutchins> luigi_: Wait, repost after a while - not too quickly.  Spend the time searching the forums, mailing lists, and google.
[19:34] <kalekip1> jhutchins: What does "!" do?
[19:35] <polter> kalekip1: it querys ubottu
[19:36] <polter> if I'm not mistaking
[19:36] <kalekip1> polter: Oh, ubottu is really a bot? lol
[19:36] <zykotick9> !bot
[19:39] <text> quiet
[19:40] <Kuehlschrank> Ubuntu Mac installation: The DVD boot got stuck at a black screen with blinking cursor. Do you have to boot from USB to get around this? (mid 2012 Mac Pro 13'', rEFIt 0.14, ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64+mac.iso) Thanks in advance.
[19:40] <jhutchins> kalekip1: It's shorthand for "ubottu:" in that it queries the bot.  You can also /msg ubottu <factoid> and avoid cluttering the channel when you're exploring.
[19:41] <kalekip1> jhutchins can you help me with my boot issue?
[19:41] <jhutchins> Kuehlschrank: So the DVD did not successfully boot?
[19:42] <m_tadeu> how can I stream my desktop to another pc in the network?
[19:42] <kalekip1> Like Twitch?
[19:42] <jhutchins> kalekip1: update-grub should find it again, sometimes you have to do that manually.
[19:42] <jhutchins> kalekip1:  Can you find and mount the Windows partition?
[19:42] <Kuehlschrank> jhutchins: No. I pressed 'c' and the DVD took over, resulting in a black screen with blinking cursor
[19:43] <kalekip1> jhutchins: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit returns:
[19:43] <kalekip1> WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
[19:43] <jhutchins> m_tadeu: Not exactly streaming, but there are several vnc servers, rdesktop works, you can forward a full X session, or individual apps over ssh.
[19:43] <m_tadeu> jhutchins: I need it streamed
[19:44] <jhutchins> Kuehlschrank: Verify that the DVD has the same valid md5sum as the iso, which should match the sum listed on the mirror.
[19:44] <m_tadeu> jhutchins: but thanx for the idea
[19:44] <jhutchins> m_tadeu: I believe VLC does streaming.
[19:45] <jhutchins> kalekip1: That should be pretty self-explanitory.
[19:45] <kalekip1> jhutchins: So what should I do? :p
[19:45] <kalekip1> jhutchins: WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
[19:45] <kalekip1> Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
[19:45] <kalekip1> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
[19:45] <kalekip1> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[19:45] <kalekip1> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[19:45] <FloodBot1> kalekip1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:45] <kalekip1> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[19:45] <jhutchins> Like it says, use parted.
[19:45] <Kuehlschrank> jhutchins: the dvd and iso match the checksum. A broken dvd was my first thought as well
[19:46] <kalekip1> jhutchins: How do I do that?
[19:46] <zykotick9> kalekip1: fyi, "sudo parted -l" shows what "sudo fdisk -l" does, but for gpt partitions
[19:46] <jhutchins> Kuehlschrank: Well, at least you've eliminated that.
[19:47] <zykotick9> kalekip1: i'd recommend gparted if you have a gui.
[19:47] <kalekip1> zykotick9: tbh, I have no idea what it is
[19:47] <jhutchins> Kuehlschrank: I'm afraid my linux-on-Mac experience is several years out of date.
[19:47] <jhutchins> !mac
[19:48] <jhutchins> !parted
[19:48] <jhutchins> Had to strike out sooner or later...
[19:48] <jhutchins> !gpt
[19:48] <kalekip1> !gparted
[19:48] <kalekip1> lol
[19:48] <jhutchins> Another swing and a miss.
[19:48] <Kuehlschrank> jhutchins: It worked on my old mac. (even with grub and efi at the same time) but now I wanted to install it on a newer one..
[19:49] <jhutchins> Kuehlschrank: Yeah, it's worked pretty much since the intel macs came out, I just don't know the current detials.
[19:50] <kalekip1> jhutchins: Ok, I installed gparted (no idea what it is/how to use it) :3
[19:50] <jhutchins> kalekip1: There are these wonderful things called man pages...
[19:50] <jhutchins> kalekip1: I'm not going to try to guide you because I only rarely use it.
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> kalekip1  start here http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html
[19:53] <kalekip1> Not sure if useful: http://pastebin.com/jNcxLr9B
[19:55] <Kuehlschrank> jhutchins: Thanks for your help.. I'll keep trying :)
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> kalekip1  do you know what partitions are?
[19:56] <kalekip1> MonkeyDust: Yes, I do :p
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> kalekip1  gparted is a graphical partition editor
[19:56] <kalekip1> MonkeyDust: Thanks, I just noticed by opening it in the GUI
[19:58] <kalekip1> jhutchins: I didn't delete the partitions.
[19:58] <kalekip1> https://www.dropbox.com/s/obmtqysb4mg7yew/Selection_002.png
[20:00] <kalekip1> I still don't get it. Why doesn't GRUB give me the option to start Windows 7?
[20:00] <kalekip1> Partitions are fine. Files are not changed.
[20:00] <Scott_S> kalekip1: Have you run 'sudo grub-update'?
[20:00] <kalekip1> Should I add a special rule for GRUB to see Windows 7? And if so, where do I add a line?
[20:00] <kalekip1> Scott_S: I think it was update-grub. Yes, I did.
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> kalekip1  that partition table sure looks complicated
[20:01] <Scott_S> kalekip1, if the Windows bootloader didn't come up, then you have accidentally overwritten the Windows bootloader. Simple as that.
[20:01] <kalekip1> Scott_S: How do I make it show Windows 7 along with Ubuntu?
[20:02] <Scott_S> kalekip1, You'll need to reinstall the windows Bootloader (MBR). Did you install Windows as an EFI system?
[20:02] <kalekip1> Scott_S: It was pre-installed. I think it is UEFI.
[20:03] <polter> kalekip1: have you got a Windows DVD to boot from?
[20:03] <Scott_S> kalekip1, Yes, then it is an EFI/UEFI system. Did you also install Ubuntu as an UEFI system?
[20:04] <kalekip1> polter: Probably. It's new, never tried it. But I don't have to reinstall Windows, right? I still have all the files.
[20:04] <kalekip1> Scott_S: I have no idea.
[20:04] <polter> kalekip1: you shouldn't have to reinstall Windows, but maybe use the DVD to repair the bootloader. But I haven't got much experience when it comes to that
[20:04] <Scott_S> kalkip1, When you booted Ubuntu, did you select the "UEFI" option, or did you just boot the system? An easy way to check is with this command: [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI boot on HDD" || echo "Legacy boot on HDD"
[20:05] <kalekip1> Returns EFI boot on HDD
[20:05] <kalekip1> Does UEFI and EFI matter?
[20:06] <kalekip1> polter if I repair it, will Ubuntu be still an option for me?
[20:06] <Scott_S> kalekip1: Then you are currently running an EFI system. And yes, it makes a serious difference. Give me a moment to research a few ways to resolve your issue.
[20:08] <polter> kalekip1: I don't know. Someone with more knowledge about that sort of thing should probably answer that question.
[20:08] <polter> as long as it's just bootloader issues you should be able to fix it though
[20:08] <kalekip1> polter: Thanks anyways. I could always just try it.
[20:09] <Scott_S> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair @ kalekip1 - This could resolve your issue.
[20:09] <kalekip1> Scott_S: Thanks a lot, Scott. I will take a look at that.
[20:10] <kalekip1> Sidequestion: What kind of VM's do you guys recommend? I use VMWare on Windows
[20:10] <Scott_S> kalekip1, VMWare Workstation and VirtualBox are my two favorites, and likely the two best options around.
[20:10] <Strit> kalekip1, VirtualBox works great
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> kalekip1  virtualbox
[20:10] <Scott_S> VMWare workstation is also available on Linux however, and will likely be your best option if you are already using it.
[20:10] <polter> I use VMWare on Windows
[20:11] <kalekip1> VirtualBox lost my trust. It is (or was) SO laggy on my Windows..
[20:11] <polter> VMWare player that is.
[20:11] <Scott_S> kalekip1, That appears to be a problem with your side then; did you properly install virtualbox-guest-additions?
[20:11] <kalekip1> Scott_S: It's not a big deal. I can always try it again.
[20:12] <Scott_S> kalekip1, As with all VM systems, you must ensure to install any additions that will allow GPU passthrough to enhance any GPU-accelerated rendering.
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> kalekip1  http://xmodulo.com/2013/04/vmware-player-vs-virtualbox-feature-comparison.html
[20:14] <kalekip1> Man. Stop it! You guys are too awesome :D
[20:14] <Scott_S> Keep in mind that this is not a place for VM discussions; those can be taken to #ubuntu-offtopic, #vmware, or #virtualbox
[20:14] <sulo_> hmm seems I can join you also :)
[20:14] <kalekip1> One of the best communities :p
[20:14] <sulo_> I was also thinking about some virtualization program :)
[20:15] <Scott_S> kalekip1, Back to your previous issue; when you installed Ubuntu, did you choose a "Install alongside Windows" option, or did you manually configure the partitions?
[20:16] <kalekip1> Scott_S: manually, I chose: "Other .."
[20:16] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: sidenote: that comparison missing "open source" (virtualbox) vs "propritary" (vmware) software (tbh, i use kvm because i don't trust oracle either...)
[20:17] <kalekip1> zykotick9: Why? What's wrong with Oracle :o Google, MS and Apple are the devils.
[20:17] <Scott_S> !offtopic
[20:18] <kalekip1> I'm using Boot Repair now, "buggy-kernel detected. Do you want to activate [Backup and rename Windows EFI files]?". Gonna hit yes.
[20:18] <Scott_S> That is exactly what you want to do. That should restore your Windows EFI boot files and allow you to boot into windows and (hopefully) also allow you to select Ubuntu as a bootable system.
[20:19] <Scott_S> kalekip1, If that is not the case, then I strongly suggest using EasyBCD to chainload the GRUB2 bootloader.
[20:19] <kalekip1> Scott_S: I'm going to reboot in a few
[20:20] <polter> kalekip1: good luck
[20:21] <kalekip1> Ok, I'm rebooting now. Cya in a bit (I may hope)
[20:21] <Scott_S> Good luck!
[20:21] <sulo__> poor kalekip1 hope he will resolve his problem soon
[20:21] <sulo__> my friend had similar problem
[20:22] <polter> the good thing about boot issues is that you feel awesome if you fix them :)
[20:22] <sulo__> and he just figured it out in a few hours I think he was lucky
[20:22] <Scott_S> A lesson learned; never use an Advanced option unless you actually know how to use it, or you are willing to lose your files. Always backup before installing any system, and have patience. :)
[20:22] <Strit> polter, true!
[20:23] <sulo__> I havent backup my files
[20:23] <sulo__> never
[20:23] <polter> I managed to wipe the partition table of my parents computer when I was 15, just "trying stuff out". Had to use gpart and fdisk to try to rescue their files. Not a plesant experience
[20:23] <kalekip1> w00t
[20:23] <kalekip1> I am on Windows now
[20:23] <polter> kalekip1: congrats
[20:24] <Scott_S> Good to hear, kalekip1. :) Are you able to boot into Ubuntu also, or did you have the option?
[20:24] <kalekip1> Thanks a lot guys. Mainly Scott_S ;)
[20:24] <kalekip1> Scott_S: I have both options (and some more)
[20:24] <kalekip1> It isn't as fancy as I hoped, but as a programmer I should just deal with it :p
[20:24] <Scott_S> kalekip1, You likely have access to your Recovery partition and the recovery mode. :) Glad to hear that you were able to resolve your issue.
[20:25] <kalekip1> I'm gonna switch back to Ubuntu. brb
[20:25] <sulo__> omg I wrote havent sorry :D
[20:26] <sulo__> damn he is genius :D
[20:26] <sulo__> my friend figured out this problem via using ubuntu live cd :)
[20:27] <Scott_S> sulo__, the nice thing is that the boot repair is installable via the LiveCD and is always accessible as long as you have an internet connection. Sure, it's not as good as learning how to fix it yourself, but at least it's a user-friendly option.
[20:27] <BuJitsuBrown> Hello friends i need help with the audio system of my ubuntu
[20:27] <Scott_S> BuJitsuBrown, what appears to be the problme?
[20:28] <BuJitsuBrown> i killed somthing inmortant and idk what it was
[20:28] <Scott_S> BuJitsuBrown, are you unable to view your audio devices, or are you simply not getting audio through the devices you have selected? Please try to be specific.
[20:28] <sulo__> drivers I supposed :D
[20:28] <polter> BuJitsuBrown: what did you do when you "killed" something?
[20:29] <BuJitsuBrown> vlc no longer works and a few others
[20:29] <Scott_S> BuJitsuBrown, What errors are you receiving?
[20:29] <sulo__> looks It will be loong story...
[20:29] <BuJitsuBrown> how do i crt/c ctrl v error meesage?
[20:30] <Scott_S> BuJitsuBrown, the easiest thing to do is take a screenshot and upload it to an image site.
[20:30] <sulo__> Print screen
[20:30] <ped> Back
[20:30] <BuJitsuBrown> vlc says audio device "default" could not be used
[20:30] <kalekip1> Try Shutter for Linux?
[20:30] <kalekip1> :p
[20:30] <Scott_S> BuJitsuBrown, can you go to your Audio settings and attempt to select another device?
[20:31] <sulo__> what about updating System maybe It will help
[20:31] <BuJitsuBrown> yes but even the dummy doent work
[20:31] <BuJitsuBrown> i treid updatin the system
[20:32] <Scott_S> BuJitsuBrown, I'm assuming you have already rebooted your system in attempt to resolve the issue? If not, please try that now.
[20:32] <BuJitsuBrown> yes i have treied that .when i try to choose antoher
[20:33] <BuJitsuBrown> audio output moduel the erro is the same
[20:33] <jay666> I can't update anymore, says W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/muglia/ppa/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[20:33] <Scott_S> BuJitsuBrown, When did this issue occur? Can you list anything that you changed before this started happening?
[20:33] <BuJitsuBrown> "no such file or directory"
[20:34] <sulo__> That site no longer exists, jay666 I think
[20:34] <BuJitsuBrown> ok b4 the pro
[20:34] <jay666> I configured Wine
[20:34] <tgm4883> jay666, either you shouldn't have updated to raring, or you shouldn't be running a PPA without knowing the consequences
[20:34] <Scott_S> jay666, that means that the package repository is no longer available, please refer to the software's developer page to see if they have changed the ppa location.
[20:35] <polter> jay666: To clarify. It just says that specific PPA isn't available. You should be able to update from the other repos just fine
[20:35] <BuJitsuBrown> i unistalled jac 2 -compleat removal then i tried to redownload and reinstall and thats when everything went bad
[20:35] <sulo__> It is really good to see problems around there I think I gonna learn a lot about Ubuntu :)
[20:35] <jay666> ok thanks :-)
[20:36] <Scott_S> BuJitsuBrown, My first thought is that a require dependancy for ALSA, or your default audio manager, is now missing or has been changed.
[20:36] <RichardRaseley> I am attempting to run a server with xinetd. When restarting xinetd I see in syslog that it says my custom server isn't executable. In the server definition I set the user as "nobody", I then chmod the server -rwxr-xr-x and then chown nobody:nobody but I get the same error when restart xinetd. Any suggestions on where to look next?
[20:36] <Scott_S> jay666, That specific software does not have a repository for Ubuntu 13.04; that is why you are not able to update.
[20:36] <kalekip1> RichardRaseley: What is the purpose of the server? For a website, or ... ?
[20:37] <Scott_S> !xinetd
[20:37] <RichardRaseley> It is a python script that does a little lifecheck on an application we run and then returns either "healthy" or "degraded"
[20:37] <BuJitsuBrown> that sounds prty good ill try to checksynaptic for dep probs
[20:37] <AcidRain2012> where is the ssh log again for sftp?
[20:37] <AcidRain2012> it says authentication successful but then my box drops the connection
[20:37] <kalekip1> AcidRain2012: For what?
[20:37] <RichardRaseley> I am attempting to get it to return that value on port 80 so it can be read by an F5 BIG-IP.
[20:38] <Scott_S> AcidRain2012, the usual location is /var/log
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> RichardRaseley: why are you using xinetd instead of Upstart to manage the service?
[20:38] <AcidRain2012> kalekip1, im trying to see why my comp drops connection after successful authentication on sFTP server using ssh
[20:38] <AcidRain2012> im in /var/log right now. what file :P
[20:38] <wylde> RichardRaseley: just a thought. Should that be nobody:nogroup?
[20:38] <RichardRaseley> Dr_Willis: What service?
[20:38] <bwu6123> AcidRain2012: sshd usually logs to /var/log/auth.log
[20:39] <RichardRaseley> Dr_Willis: It isn't a service - it is a script.
[20:39] <BuJitsuBrown> Mr scot_S that did not work what can i check now?
[20:39] <RichardRaseley> wylde: I... am not sure?
[20:39] <AcidRain2012> bwu6123, ok i see it. bad permissions
[20:39] <kalekip1> I want to learn C++, C, Java, Python, Ruby, Perl, Delphi, and even VB. I hope I graduate at once, so I can learn them asap. :p
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> RichardRaseley:  then why are you not using CRON instead of xinetd?
[20:39] <wylde> RichardRaseley: AFAIK there is no nobody group...by default at any rate.
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> i thought xinetd was basically phased out several relaseses back
[20:40] <RichardRaseley> Dr_Willis: Because I am not trying to schedule anything to run at a set interval.
[20:40] <Scott_S> AcidRain2012, I'm sorry, I don't really have a solution to your problem.
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> RichardRaseley:  so you want it to run once at boot time? or when exactly?
[20:40] <Jordan_U> RichardRaseley: If it's an interpreted script then its permissions need to be readable as well as executable.
[20:40] <RichardRaseley> Dr_Willis: I need the script to run whenever that port is called.
[20:40] <AcidRain2012> Scott_S, im fixing it now ;)
[20:41] <Scott_S> Sorry, wrong person; BuJitsuBrown, I meant that I really dont' have a solution for you right now. Give me a few moments.
[20:41] <BuJitsuBrown> o ok sorry
[20:41] <joaosantana> Hi all
[20:42] <RichardRaseley> Dr_Willis: So basically I need it to run *as* a service, insofar as whenever a call is made to that port it needs to execute and then return the results (either "degraded" or "healthy" based on the internal logic of the script.
[20:42] <kalekip1> Hi, joaosantana.
[20:43] <Scott_S> BuJitsuBrown, Am I correct in that Jack Audio uses its own sound server? If so, then after you removed it, you removed the sound server.
[20:43] <RichardRaseley> I was thinking of using Flask (it is written in Python) so it behaves more like a web service - but that would still leave all the work ahead of me to get the script running all the time, restart if failed, etc.
[20:44] <BuJitsuBrown> ok um my cop was wrking good until aft my expremts with jack ..
[20:44] <Scott_S> BuJitsuBrown, please try using the following: "sudo apt-get install alsa-utils alsamixer"
[20:45] <BuJitsuBrown> i doo belive it has a server but it was unable to coeenct to server so i did a compleate uinstll the i dwnlded and reinstall and thats when no sound came from vlc or tuc guitar
[20:46] <BuJitsuBrown> ok ill try the sudo for alsa
[20:46] <Scott_S> BuJitsuBrown, what I mean by "server" is that it's the system that lets you hear and record audio, "Jack Audio" appears to use an alternative to Alsa, which is the default audio manager in Ubuntu as far as I know.
[20:46] <kalekip1> What's the hotkey to minimize everything? I forgot...
[20:47] <kalekip1> Something like SHIFT + Windows + * I think
[20:47] <Scott_S> CTRL+ALT+D.
[20:47] <kalekip1> Scott_S: Nope, ain't working.
[20:48] <BuJitsuBrown> ok i probly srwed alsa
[20:48] <Scott_S> Then I would refer to System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts
[20:48] <BuJitsuBrown> but i want jack too b/c of program tinyear trainer
[20:48] <Scott_S> BuJitsuBrown, what error do you receive when attempting to reinstall Jack Audio?
[20:49] <kalekip1> I don't have keyboard shortcuts, I do have layoat and just "keyboard" how ever.
[20:49] <kalekip1> Oh
[20:49] <kalekip1> nvm, I found it by keyboard
[20:49] <BuJitsuBrown> srry havent got ther yet what was the cmd agian?
[20:49] <Scott_S> "sudo apt-get install alsamixer alsa-utils"
[20:50] <kalekip1> Scott_S: What is "super"? A special character for Linux? Like Windows and Apple (keys)?
[20:50] <Scott_S> Yes. Super is the Windows or Apple key.
[20:51] <kalekip1> Does Linux has it's own keyboard? I might buy it if it is close, lol.
[20:51] <Jordan_U> kalekip1: It's the key that's wearing a cape.
[20:51] <Scott_S> There are likely keyboards that have Tux as the Windows/Mac key, but I am not aware of any manufacturers off the top of my head.
[20:51] <[FreeBSD]> kalekip1: you can buy linux keycaps
[20:52] <[FreeBSD]> mostly on mechanical ones
[20:52] <kalekip1> Huh
[20:52] <kalekip1> Am I being stupid, or does the hotkey not work?
[20:53] <Scott_S> WindowsKey+D.
[20:53] <kalekip1> Minimize windows - Ctrl+Alt+0
[20:53] <polter> Canonical sells a Flexible keyboard in their store
[20:53] <Scott_S> That method was deprecated in Maverick and is now "SUPER+D" (AKA Windows+D or Apple+D)
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> kalekip1:  it works here
[20:53] <polter> still has a Windows key though, doh
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> kalekip1:  Numpad 0
[20:53] <kalekip1> Scott_S: nope. Like 6h ago I asked it too, and someone told me. It worked.
[20:54] <Scott_S> Kalekip1, then once again I do not have a solution.
[20:54] <kalekip1> huh, oh look. Now it works :/
[20:54] <BuJitsuBrown> Mr Scot_S it said unable to locate alsamixer
[20:54] <metho> is the password located within a file like in windows there is a sam file which is encrypted...
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> press and hold the SUPER key and it will show some common shortcuts also
[20:55] <Scott_S> BuJitsuBrown, that might be my fault actually, might be the wrong package. In any case, did alsa-utils properly install?
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> metho:  which password?
[20:55] <BuJitsuBrown> yes sir it did
[20:55] <metho> sorry... user password i.e. my own password
[20:56] <Scott_S> BuJitsuBrown, then I would suggest restarting and attempting to use an audio device again.
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> metho:  system passwords for users are in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[20:56] <BuJitsuBrown> ok thank you sir will do
[20:57] <polter> what is the command to view info about a package in the terminal?
[20:58] <metho> Dr_Willis: thanks for the info
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> polter  apt-cache show or apt-cache policy
[20:59] <polter> MonkeyDust: thank you
[21:00] <polter> Scott_S: alsamixer is part of alsa-utils, so he should have it now
[21:00] <Scott_S> polter: I had forgotten that they are separate.
[21:00] <Scott_S> no longer separate *
[21:02] <arayaq> Hi everyone! I have the following problem: I have a Dell Inspiron 1545 without screen, so I plug a monitor to it. I managed to install Ubuntu throug the mini ISO. But now at boot it wont recognize the external monitor. But if I start up in recovery mode I can log into a root terminal. So, is there a way I can log in into a graphical session from that?
[21:04] <capin> anyone have experience with setting up a disk using GPT, and BIOS hardware?
[21:04] <Scott_S> arayaq, for recovery reasons, you only get a CLI in recovery mode. Have you gone into your Monitor settings and enabled your external output?
[21:04] <[FreeBSD]> capin: yes
[21:04] <Scott_S> capin, GPT disks above 2TB are not bootable from a BIOS system, but are fully usable as a storage device. Is there a specific question you have?
[21:05] <[FreeBSD]> capin: for grub to install you need to make an extra small partition if its that
[21:06] <arayaq> Scott_S: if you mean getting into the GUI, I cant, since a have non
[21:06] <zoneminder> hello
[21:06] <Scott_S> arayaq, I see, apparently completely missed that you said you don't have a monitor on the actual notebook. One moment please.
[21:07] <zoneminder> I use ubuntu studio. Does anyone have any ideea why I can't use compiz correctly on it?... OpenGL gives an error...
[21:07] <yellowke> FUCK ME PLZ http://radioblikske.weebly.com/
[21:07] <yellowke> FUCK ME PLZ http://radioblikske.weebly.com/
[21:07] <FloodBot1> yellowke: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:07] <capin> [FreeBSD]: i created a 32MB partition on the disk, and set the bios_grub flag to on
[21:07] <[FreeBSD]> capin: ok
[21:07] <[FreeBSD]> only need to be 1mb
[21:07] <capin> am i suppose to format this partiton with a specific FS?
[21:07] <yellowke> FUCK ME PLZ http://radioblikske.weebly.com/
[21:07] <[FreeBSD]> capin: no
[21:07] <[FreeBSD]> leave it as it is
[21:07] <capin> okay
[21:08] <capin> how do i install grub2 on it then?
[21:08] <Scott_S> arayaq: Try xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto
[21:08] <[FreeBSD]> capin: the normal way
[21:08] <arayaq> Scott_S: from the root terminal in recovery?
[21:09] <capin> i tried that and its throwing out errors? am i suppose to install grub2 to the grub_bios (32MB) partition?
[21:09] <Scott_S> arayaq, Theoretically yes. I would also typ in "xrandr --output LVDS --off"
[21:09] <[FreeBSD]> capin: no
[21:09] <Javert> what does خ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐ mean in Swedish?
[21:09] <[FreeBSD]> the disk /dev/sda or whatever it is
[21:09] <capin> yes
[21:09] <capin> /dev/sda
[21:09] <Scott_S> Javert, this is a channel for Ubuntu support only.
[21:09] <Javert> k
[21:09] <capin> right now /dev/sda1 is the 32MB partition
[21:10] <arayaq> Scott_S: In both cases I get "can't open display"
[21:10] <[FreeBSD]> grub needs to be insyalled to the sda grub will detect that partition
[21:10] <h00k> /9/10
[21:10] <h00k> bah. apologies.
[21:11] <Scott_S> arayaq, Interesting, it's possible you can only run that command from the booted system. One moment please.
[21:11] <BuJitsuBrown> Hello Mr Scot_S are u free?
[21:11] <BuJitsuBrown> : )ref are you being srved
[21:11] <BuJitsuBrown> pbs
[21:11] <capin> the command im running is, "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" but im getting error "cannot find a device for /boot/grub
[21:12] <k1l_> !ask | BuJitsuBrown
[21:12] <polter> can't you just switch output using fn+f4 when the system is booted?
[21:12] <Scott_S> polter, That's a good point, I'm not sure why I didn't think about that.
[21:12] <polter> I mean, boot it up, give it a few minutes, then try it. It's worth a shot.
[21:13] <Scott_S> BuJitsuBrown, as k1l_ made clear, just ask your question, someone will get to you when they can.
[21:14] <Scott_S> arayaq, Can you tell me the output of "xrandr -q"?
[21:14] <arayaq> Scott_S: Same, cant open display
[21:15] <BuJitsuBrown> Still am having a problem with my audio i have new information dragoon player says-The audio playback Device H-D Generic(stace 92 x Analog) dos not work is this helpful
[21:17] <eos> Hi everybody! My laptop has started recognising my camera as camera:/ whilst before it was recognised as USB storage .... I wouldprefer if it was still recognised as USB storage though! Do you know how to force USB storage and not camera:/?
[21:17] <BuJitsuBrown> sory it was (STAC92xx Analog) is it turned off ?
[21:17] <Scott_S> BuJitsuBrown, at least now you have an audio device. Once again, try selecting another audio device and try testing it in the audio settings before attempting to use it with a program.
[21:18] <sona11111111> Hello, I am trying to install ubuntu with raid onto a dell 755. With USB, I have tried downloading the 32and 64 bit alternate install disks for 12.04 and I have tried two different USB sticks. (installed with lili)Under all circumstances, after booting to usb, choosing any of the options causes the computer to reset.
[21:18] <BuJitsuBrown> i didnt select this first one how do i selct the next one?
[21:18] <kostkon> eos, you could check in the camera's settings for that option , it should have 2 options for PTP or UMS
[21:18] <eos> kostkon: already done, it does not effect the way the laptop recognises it
[21:19] <zykotick9> sona11111111: try #ubuntu-server
[21:19] <Scott_S> arayaq, The X server isn't started in recovery mode, so I'm not fully sure how you would change the output settings. it's possible you can manually edit your xorg configuration to resolve your issue.
[21:19] <kostkon> eos, hmm strange.
[21:19] <arayaq> Scott_S: can you point me to the file?
[21:19] <eos> kostkon: yep ....
[21:20] <skinux> Can we customize Ubuntu so app open to upper-right instead of lower-right/lower-left?
[21:20] <Scott_S> arayaq, /etc/X11/xorg.conf - ALWAYS make a back before-hand with "sudo cp /etc/XLL/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.bak"
[21:21] <arayaq> Scott_S: Yes, thank you very much. In case I find anything can I contact you here?
[21:21] <Scott_S> arayaq, Of course. If I am not available, there will likely be another person who can pitch some information in.
[21:21] <eos> kostkon: it always worked as usb masss storage until the last kernel update ...,
[21:23] <arayaq> Scott_S: Hmmm ... The file isnt there. Only xorg.conf.failsafe. Is the file created at first startup?
[21:23] <dedesigns57> Dont know if this is an appropriate question but is unity here to stay, because I have herd of Ubuntu switching over to qt?
[21:24] <kostkon> eos, you could check what your dmesg says about ut. connect the camera and then give dmesg | tail -n20
[21:24] <kalekip1> Does anybody use PlayOnLinux?
[21:24] <kalekip1> Is it good?
[21:24] <kalekip1> It's like Wine
[21:24] <polter> dedesigns57: Unity and QT isn't mutually exclusive
[21:24] <polter> kalekip1: it's a wrapper for Wine
[21:24] <Scott_S> arayaq, My knowledge there is a bit limited, but from what I understand that is the X server configuration file, which is mandatory so that you have a set of settings for your monitor(s).
[21:25] <eos> kostkon: thanks .... I will check, and see whether there is anything strange.
[21:26] <arayaq> Scott_S: I know, Ill see if the missing file can be the problem
[21:26] <polter> kalekip1: it helps you set up different wine environments for every app, so it can make customizations for one app that doesn't mess with your other wine apps
[21:26] <Scott_S> polter: More specifically, it provides optimizations in the Wine configuration to ensure that more games are compatible (removes a lot of headache for end-users)
[21:26] <kalekip1> polter: I don't need to have Wine, right? Just PlayOnLinux will be fine. (?)
[21:26] <dedesigns57> I know that unity is a DE and that QT is what KDE used in their DE. Im just wondering if they will still continue to work on unity, what do you think?
[21:27] <Scott_S> kalekip1, PlayOnLinux will automatically install Wine, or will come with it.
[21:27] <kalekip1> Scott_S: Oh, ok.
[21:27] <polter> doesn't PoL fetch different Wine versions for different apps too? I might be wrong about that
[21:27] <dedesigns57> in other words, will do u think they will use qt to improve unity or make something different/
[21:27] <Scott_S> polter, Yes, that's exactly what I mean. It uses a different configuration for different games to ensure they have a better chance of working properly.
[21:28] <Scott_S> But, this discussion is better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic or #playonlinux
[21:28] <kalekip1> Does PoL only work with games which are listed? Can't I just give it an .exe and tell it to run?
[21:28] <kalekip1> Oh, ok :p
[21:28] <polter> Scott_S: yep you're right
[21:28] <BuJitsuBrown> i need help pleas is my soud card broke?
[21:28] <kalekip1> BuJitsuBrown: Specify more info?
[21:28] <arayaq> Scott_S: apparently X now works with autodetection, so the file wont be there unless I created
[21:28] <zykotick9> dedesigns57: your question isn't support related, and thus belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
[21:28] <BuJitsuBrown> no sound comes from any were
[21:29] <polter> BuJitsuBrown: run alsamixer and then press F6 to check if you have several devices
[21:29] <Scott_S> BujitsuBrown, No, your sound card isn't broken, you have done something that has removed a package required for you to use a sound device. I don't know exactly what you did, but I can't really do much else.
[21:29] <kalekip1> BuJitsuBrown: Do you have Windows? Does it work on Windows?
[21:29] <arayaq> Scott_S: thankyou any way. Ill see if I can create one to force the display to VGA
[21:29] <Scott_S> arayaq, That would be my suggestion, sorry I couldn't help any more.
[21:29] <polter> BuJitsuBrown: check if some device is muted
[21:30] <BuJitsuBrown> how do i check if a device is muted?
[21:30] <kostkon> BuJitsuBrown, stopped working?
[21:30] <dedesigns57> thank you.
[21:30] <Scott_S> polter: This problem occurred after he removed and attempted to reinstall a program called "Jack Audio".
[21:30] <kostkon> BuJitsuBrown, did you try to setup your audio again in sound settings?
[21:30] <MENTHECATTO> Hello guys I would like to download everything from this dropbox folder: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52773433 , but I can't see how many files are in there. Is there a way to get a file list, without the owner to know it?
[21:31] <polter> Scott_S: I know.
[21:31] <arcaflesh> I deleted my Music folder in my home folder, is there any way I can re-create it and its original bookmark ?
[21:31] <kalekip1> MENTHECATTO: What do you want to achieve?
[21:31] <polter> MENTHECATTO: not really a question suited for #ubuntu
[21:31] <kostkon> MENTHECATTO, if it's private, then no
[21:31] <kalekip1> MENTHECATTO: I can't see any files listed.
[21:32] <BuJitsuBrown> pwr fal
[21:32] <rostam> HI is there a way to o monitor changes to some memory map area in user land? thx
[21:34] <Marlenee> anyone here know network manager
[21:36] <Avgva> hey
[21:37] <cmaiz82> please, why i have two bluetooth icons after install blueman??
[21:38] <polter> Marlenee: is there something in particular you need help with?
[21:39] <Marlenee> polter : yes
[21:42] <maximisi7> hallo
[21:43] <zoneminder> hello :)
[21:43] <compdoc> whens the new zoneminder coming?
[21:44] <zoneminder> are you aware of any linux/ubuntu application that can show multiple rtsp streams at once?... (and then the user to be able to choose one stream to full screen it using the mouse, eventually) ?...
[21:44] <zoneminder> heh, compdoc, my nickname is only so because I tryied zoneminder for this (what I asked above :) )
[21:44] <zoneminder> hey, compdoc, are you the same from #computerhelp or #ComputerSupport from undernet?... :)
[21:45] <compdoc> yeah
[21:45] <zoneminder> it's me, lovetruth :) dunno if you remember me :) ...
[21:45] <compdoc> heh, yeah
[21:45] <maximisi7> list
[21:45] <zoneminder> :)
[21:45] <zoneminder> are you aware of any linux/ubuntu application that can show multiple rtsp streams at once?... (and then the user to be able to choose one stream to full screen it using the mouse, eventually) ?...
[21:45] <zoneminder> :)
[21:47] <bbeng89> hey guys i'm trying to set up a super simple cron job to run a script every 10 minutes but it doesn't seem to do anything
[21:47] <cil> zoneminder: https://wiki.videolan.org/Mosaic
[21:47] <zoneminder> I want to use it for ip cameras... but, whatever :)
[21:48] <zoneminder> tried mosaic, cil
[21:48] <bbeng89> when i just type cron i get: cron: can't open or create /var/run/crond.pid: Permission denied
[21:48] <MENTHECATTO> kalekip1 of course you don't see anyfile
[21:48] <MENTHECATTO> it's what i'd like to know
[21:48] <zoneminder> I even used lua for capturing the mouse clicks
[21:48] <bbeng89> if i type sudo cron i get: cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 2107: Resource temporarily unavailable
[21:48] <zoneminder> wasn't able to get the mouse coordinates, anyway
[21:48] <zoneminder> so I'm aggressively searching for a working alternative now
[21:49] <zoneminder> so I would have something working now :)
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> bbeng89:  cron is a service that should allready be running at boot time
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> !cron | bbeng89
[21:51] <bbeng89> ubottu: yeah, i know what it is. The entry in my crontab is: */10 * * * * /home/myuser/scripts/run-bot.sh
[21:51] <bbeng89> oh, haha
[21:51] <ufoczek> what the hell is going on with lightdm? :)
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> bbeng89:  then you should realize that you donbt need to rerun cron after adding jobx. it should see them and start them. Unless you are doing a wrong entry. or the script is confused.
[21:52] <bbeng89> the script works if I run it just like ./run-bot.sh
[21:52] <Marlenee> anyone here know network manager can help me
[21:52] <bbeng89> and i changed my cron job to go every minute instead of 10 minutes
[21:52] <bbeng89> but it never ran
[21:52] <orymer> h
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> bbeng89:  double check your paths in the script and the #! line of the script and make sure its executable  (common  mistakes)
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> You may also find it useful to put the commands into script files that log their success or failure, for example:
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> echo "Nightly Backup Successful: $(date)" >> /tmp/mybackup.log
[21:54] <ufoczek> why lightdm does not start automattly in 13.04?
[21:54] <ufoczek> even if its in rc scripts
[21:54] <bbeng89> Dr_Willis: ok, yeah i'll give that a shot
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> ufoczek:  it does here.    try a 'sudo service lightdm start' or restart  to see
[21:55] <ufoczek> Dr_Willis: when i execute command it works. but why does not start automatly? :<
[21:55] <ufoczek> update-rc.d lightdm defaults - done
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> ufoczek:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm    be sure its set to be the login screen
[21:55] <ufoczek> Dr_Willis: also tried that
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> i dont think you want update-rc.d
[21:56] <zoneminder> compdoc, you awake?... :)
[21:56] <ufoczek> but interesting thing is that i dont have any lightdm entiers in /var/log/boot.log
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> lightdm is a upstart managed service i belive. Not rc.d
[21:56] <bbeng89> Dr_Willis: lol... had #1/bin/bash rather than #!/bin/bash in my script. I feel stupid for not catching that haha. Good catch though! Thanks for your help!
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> bbeng89:  :) top 10 common issues ;) thats like #3
[21:57] <bbeng89> Dr_Willis: well I will definitely remember to look for that in the future. thanks again
[22:02] <MrWho> I've installed ubuntu on my vmware workstation
[22:02] <MrWho> but it's slow
[22:03] <MrWho> when i select some part of screen it has lag
[22:03] <MrWho> what's the problem?
[22:03] <MrWho> I set 4 processors and 4 gb of memory
[22:04] <arcaflesh> I deleted my Music folder in my home folder, is there any way I can re-create it and its original bookmark ?
[22:05] <qin> arcaflesh: mkdir ~/Music
[22:05] <MrWho> qin: No idea?
[22:05] <qin> arcaflesh: Do you want to undelete?
[22:08] <qin> MrWho: All virtual systems suck on graphic acceleration, less whistles on desktop?
[22:09] <MrWho> qin: I mean when you select the screen and move the mouse it's slow, and it's slow in all actions you would perform.
[22:09] <qin> MrWho: oh, /j #vmware is also option
[22:09] <dhyana> i all
[22:09] <MrWho> qin: i've already asked the question there.
[22:12] <CarlosRibeiro> hello all
[22:13] <kalekip1> Hi, CarlosRibeiro.
[22:13] <CarlosRibeiro> does anyone knows who is resposible for the artwork for ubuntu
[22:13] <qin> MrWho: I guess I would test lighter window manager, and eventualy look for extending gpu memory, yet vmware+gui is not me
[22:13] <CarlosRibeiro> Hello kalekip1
[22:13] <dhyana> hi all
[22:14] <dhyana> anyone from India?
[22:14] <CarlosRibeiro> to be more specific, I would like to know who do i need to talk about ubuntu gnome installation screenshots
[22:14] <dhyana> m indian here
[22:14] <k1l_> !in | dhyana
[22:14] <dhyana> ok
[22:14] <dhyana> but none here?
[22:15] <kalekip1> I am...
[22:15] <kalekip1> Oh Indian? Nope
[22:15] <qin> CarlosRibeiro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
[22:15] <OerHeks> CarlosRibeiro, the artwork team, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ and join #ubuntu-artwork to talk with them, if they are awake
[22:15] <dhyana> ah
[22:15] <dhyana> ok
[22:15] <k1l_> dhyana: this is a technical support channel. for chat please see #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:15] <SherlockHouseMD> hi to all ubuntu lovers
[22:15] <dhyana> ah ok
[22:15] <dhyana> :)
[22:15] <CarlosRibeiro> qin, OerHeks  thanks a lot for the info
[22:16] <SherlockHouseMD> is there a girl here :)
[22:16] <kalekip1> SherlockHouseMD: May I tell you something?
[22:16] <OerHeks> !ot | SherlockHouseMD this is not a datingchannel
[22:16] <k1l_> !ot | SherlockHouseMD
[22:16] <kalekip1> lol
[22:16] <SherlockHouseMD> ok,sorry
[22:16] <kalekip1> XD
[22:16] <kalekip1> OerHeks, I just wanted to say that..
[22:16] <SherlockHouseMD> I know :) just for the record i like to ask :)
[22:16] <dhyana> don't worry your girl is somewhere
[22:16] <kalekip1> Almost exactly
[22:16] <dhyana> :)
[22:16] <dhyana> jk
[22:16] <dhyana> :D
[22:16] <qin> Someone just overkilled it.
[22:16] <FloodBot1> dhyana: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:17] <kalekip1> !offtopic
[22:17] <arcaflesh> Qin : no I do not want to undelete. I do not really care about what was in the folder. But I want the original built-in folder back. Maybe should I copy from another admin account ? (i'm on ubu 64b 12.04)
[22:17] <calwig> how do I find out what version Im on?
[22:18] <calwig> uname -a
[22:18] <CarlosRibeiro> qin, OerHeks thanks a lot again, i have to go now and good work for all
[22:18] <k1l_> calwig: lsb_release -a
[22:19] <qin> arcaflesh: Did you try to just: mkdir ~/Music (to simply create it)
[22:20] <kalekip1> Does anybody knows how to make the apostrophe act like in Windows? (No apostrophe for ḿńĺ, etc. but only for letters like á é ó ú í)
[22:22] <zoneminder> I need something like tv mosaic or fftv or something with multiple streams shown at once under linux ... No one knows of any software doing this??... I want it for live rtsp streams...
[22:23] <kostkon> zoneminder, there is a cctv app in the repos i think
[22:23] <qin> kalekip1: http://www.butlerpc.net/blog/2011/01/using-xbindkeys-on-ubuntu-linux-to-remap-key-commands/ Painfull, but should work
[22:24] <gassho> mmm, gotta put some windows drivers on a pendrive, but in edubuntu 13.04 it claims i don't have permission to change the pendrive... please assist!
[22:25] <_Joshua> gassho chown
[22:25] <zoneminder> how can I find it?...
[22:26] <kalekip1> qin thanks, I will check it out
[22:26] <_Joshua> Use this command to get some useful information about your USB drive.
[22:26] <_Joshua> sudo blkid
[22:26] <arcaflesh> qin : no I haven't. Should I sudo it ?
[22:27] <kalekip1> qin I'm not sure what it does. Are you?
[22:27] <gassho> it says 'type vfat'
[22:28] <gassho> or TYPE="vfat"
[22:28] <_Joshua> sudo apt-get install gnome-disk-utility
[22:28] <_Joshua> use a gui
[22:28] <_Joshua> then launch it:  gnome-disks
[22:28] <kalekip1> _Joshua: It would be nice if you mention somebody with his/her (nick)name
[22:29] <gassho> then what
[22:29] <_Joshua> I love mute
[22:29] <_Joshua> damn kids these days
[22:30] <_Joshua> one moment, grassho
[22:30] <gassho> hehe ok XD
[22:30] <_Joshua> im going to mount my usb, need to boot my other laptop
[22:31] <kalekip1> _Joshua: What do you want to do? Dual boot Ubuntu?
[22:32] <arcaflesh> qin : it doesn't appear like any special folder. Should I restart my session. Maybe is this more of a Gnome/Nautilus issue ?
[22:32] <chaotic_good> # Activity reports every 10 minutes everyday
[22:32] <chaotic_good> 5-55/10 * * * * root command -v debian-sa1 > /dev/null && debian-sa1 1 1
[22:32] <arcaflesh> also, my locale is not English and built-in folders were already renamed by the system
[22:32] <codygo> might there be a reason why my system is only using 2.8GB of ram when i have 16
[22:32] <chaotic_good> is this a ubuntu thing??
[22:32] <codygo> it recognizes 16 in ksysguard
[22:32] <codygo> but i only see it top off at 2.8
[22:34] <_Joshua> kalekip1: apparently you have no idea what is going on
[22:34] <_Joshua> it is not I that needs, help
[22:34] <kalekip1> _Joshua: Ok, I'm sorry, I guess?
[22:34] <_Joshua> no apologies needed
[22:35] <kalekip1> I am going to get some sleep. Good night y'all
[22:35] <arcaflesh> bye
[22:36] <Marlenee> i cant find "shelr record"
[22:36] <antivirtel> hello, I've just installed 13.04, and I wanted to do a simple `at` task, but there was a problem, the "at" is missing... which package does it contain? I couldn't find it in google... thanks
[22:37] <OerHeks> !info at
[22:38] <UserError> guys, why doesn't add-apt-repository main work in LTS?
[22:38] <UserError> 12.04.3
[22:38] <antivirtel> omfg, OerHeks ... the simplest is the best :D thanks
[22:38] <_Joshua> my laptop is 12.04 and uses disk utility
[22:38] <antivirtel> bb
[22:38] <k1l_> UserError: can you show the exact command and the error?
[22:39] <OerHeks> antivirtel, you might want to install synaptic for detailed softwarepackages
[22:39] <UserError> sudo add-apt-repository main
[22:39] <UserError> Error: 'main' invalid
[22:39] <k1l_> UserError: that doesnt work
[22:39] <UserError> it does in 13.04
[22:39] <k1l_> UserError: add-apt-repository is to add PPAs
[22:39] <UserError> uh
[22:40] <UserError> it works in 13.04
[22:40] <UserError> sudo add-apt-repository main
[22:40] <UserError> 'main' distribution component is already enabled for all sources.
[22:40] <_Joshua> sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
[22:40] <UserError> already installed...
[22:40] <_Joshua> I  don't know about 64 bit, but on 32 bit, add-apt-repository is provided by the package python-software-properties.
[22:41] <UserError> sighs
[22:41] <UserError> I'm not an idiot i'm sitting here in both with updated packages  and using the same commands on the same exact installs of different versions
[22:41] <UserError> in two vms
[22:42] <k1l_> UserError: you were right. the manpage tells it can enable distribution components
[22:42] <OerHeks> UserError, the main repo should be enabled by default, how did you disable main?
[22:42] <UserError> Ok so how do I get that in 12.04.3
[22:42] <UserError> that was just an example
[22:42] <UserError> why are you critiquing my example instead of the problem
[22:42] <UserError> typical IRC
[22:43] <Axlin> Probably because it came off as if your specific problem was adding "main"
[22:43] <_Joshua> agree
[22:43] <davidbrooke_> I need some help on which way to go.....concerning the built-in remote drivers in the kernel...not sure whether to talk to someone involved with the kernel or lirc?
[22:43] <UserError> here, want my example to fit your acute sense of reality? sudo add-apt-repository multiverse
[22:43] <UserError> there
[22:44] <OerHeks> so,  sudo add-apt-repository multiverse does not work?
[22:44] <UserError> exactly
[22:44] <UserError> not in 12.04.x
[22:44] <k1l_> UserError: since this is not the regular way to enable or disable im not sure it is intended to work in 12.04
[22:44] <UserError> it is a regular way in 13.04
[22:44] <UserError> and 12.04.3 has a longer support cycle
[22:45] <UserError> and the 13.04 kernel
[22:45] <UserError> so what is the problem and how do I fix it
[22:45] <k1l_> UserError: you know the meaning of lts?
[22:45] <k1l_> it keeps the base of the 12.04 release.
[22:45] <UserError> Yes, which is why i'm wondering why it doesn't have this functionality from a basic component
[22:45] <UserError> Other packages have changed in features
[22:45] <UserError> would you like an example?
[22:45] <k1l_> UserError: like i told you, it is not the regular way
[22:46] <UserError> You're right, it's a better way
[22:46] <k1l_> so it was not when 12.04 was released
[22:46] <UserError> because it doesn't add another entry
[22:46] <k1l_> *sigh*
[22:46] <_Joshua> UserError:  sudo apt-get install software-properties-common
[22:46] <_Joshua> then issue the repository syntax again
[22:47] <UserError> already installed
[22:47] <UserError> That is the point
[22:47] <_Joshua> then you are fucked
[22:47] <_Joshua> because everything I find ends with that :\
[22:47] <_Joshua> http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2013/04/how-to-fix-add-apt-repository-command.html
[22:47] <FloodBot1> _Joshua: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:47] <UserError> Ok, so where can I submit a ticket
[22:47] <k1l_> !bug | UserError
[22:48] <UserError> Thank you
[22:48] <arayaq> Hi, again. Ill resume my problem, I have a notebook with no screen, only external monitor. I cant see nothing if I boot normally, but I can boot in recovery mode. From there I can log into a root terminal and stuff. But if I type in "startx" the monitor goes off. How can I force it to use the external monitor (VGA)?
[22:49] <gfredericks> I just installed raring and `apt-get install xmonad` is not working with the gnome login session
[22:49] <gfredericks> it shows a "failed to load session" dialog
[22:52] <_Joshua> gfredericks: what version ubuntu?
[22:52] <overclucker> UserError: is there a reason not to just add multiverse to sources.list?
[22:52] <gfredericks> _Joshua: raring
[22:52] <UserError> Yes, because you are ADDING
[22:52] <UserError> instead of editing
[22:52] <UserError> and i need to target all
[22:53] <UserError>  add-apt-repository -y "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $(lsb_release -sc) main universe restricted multiverse"
[22:53] <UserError> vs
[22:53] <UserError> just tacking on restricted etc
[22:53] <UserError> to the end
[22:54] <TheBombMaker> #potatosalad
[22:54] <_Joshua> gfredericks: did you install gnome panel?
[22:54] <overclucker> UserError: so, just very specific personal requirements?
[22:54] <_Joshua> sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[22:54] <gfredericks> _Joshua: nope there it goes
[22:54] <gfredericks> that sounds like the sort of thing I did last time
[22:54] <gfredericks> brb will check if that did it
[22:54] <_Joshua> gnome panel then XMonad
[22:54] <gfredericks> oh do I need to reinstall?
[22:54] <gfredericks> xmonad?
[22:54] <UserError> Targeting multiple versions of ubuntu is specific and personal?
[22:55] <UserError> that are supported at the same time
[22:55] <niftylettuce> "Show HN: Complete Linux Mint (Ubuntu) Setup for Node.js Developers (github.com)"
[22:55] <_Joshua> not if you have it already
[22:55] <UserError> supposedly
[22:55] <gfredericks> _Joshua: okay, brb
[22:55]  * gfredericks crosses fingers
[22:55] <_Joshua> gfredericks: http://vishwathmohan.com/blog/2013/05/02/xmonad-on-ubuntu-raring-ringtail/
[22:56] <UserError> Target platforms don't have it
[22:56] <gfredericks> _Joshua: w00t that did it
[22:56] <UserError> already
[22:56] <gfredericks> I think my last problem is the .Xmodmap file doesn't get autoloaded
[22:56] <_Joshua> great
[22:57] <overclucker> UserError: one command to rule them all?
[22:58] <_Joshua> godmode
[22:58] <cariveri> can anyone help me with a metacity theme? some borders wont render.
[22:58] <UserError> Yes
[22:59] <gfredericks> so google suggested to do `xmodmap .Xmodmap` in an .xinitrc file
[22:59] <gfredericks> but that did not  work on first try
[22:59] <UserError> i need one command
[22:59] <overclucker> UserError: sed?
[22:59] <UserError> and the problem is that isn't currently possible
[22:59] <UserError> which is sad
[23:00] <qin> lol
[23:00] <k1l_> UserError: as already mentioned: file a bug. we wont fullfill your wish right here
[23:00] <gassho> ;S;
[23:01] <gfredericks> should the .xinitrc be executable?
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> gfredericks:  I dont recall it needing to be. but it wont hurt i guess
[23:02] <OerHeks> this should enable multiverse " sudo sed -i "/^# deb.*multiverse/ s/^# //" /etc/apt/sources.list "
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> gfredericks:  the .xinitrc has been supercededs by ~/.xsession  i think.
[23:02] <gfredericks> Dr_Willis: I'll try that next then
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> gfredericks:  and neither is ran by default 'in addation' to your selected window manager session via lightdm.  (how are you trying to use it?)
[23:03] <overclucker> gassho: are you still trying to copy files to a usb drive?
[23:03] <gfredericks> Dr_Willis: I don't know what lightdm is; I just succeeded in getting xmonad to work
[23:03] <gassho> yes into a directory
[23:03] <gassho> on a pendrive :D
[23:03] <gfredericks> Dr_Willis: my actual goal is to get my .Xmodmap file read
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> gfredericks:  lightdm is the initial LOGIN screen with the prtty graphics
[23:03] <overclucker> gassho: with a FAT filesystem?
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> gfredericks:  you could make a lightdm 'session' entry that runs whatever script or commands you want.
[23:03] <gfredericks> Dr_Willis: the one that plays the cute little noise that my two year old likes
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> gfredericks:  the default Login manager for Ubuntu (and other variants) is Lightdm
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> gfredericks:  theres alterantives
[23:05] <gfredericks> Dr_Willis: so that's the only point where I can get arbitrary scripts run?
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> gfredericks:  the login manager screens display a menu of sessions you can select.   /usr/share/xsessions/    is where they come from
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> gfredericks:  if you use a console login and use 'startx' then THAT will use .xsession or .xinitrc
[23:05] <gfredericks> Dr_Willis: so I have my gnome-xmonad.desktop file open
[23:05] <UserError> What is the official way in terminal to edit a repo's args without adding another one?
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> OR you make a lightdm session that uses .xinitc
[23:05] <UserError> in 12.04.3
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> gfredericks:  so that gnome-xmonad.desktop file is in  /usr/share/xsessions ?
[23:06] <gfredericks> Dr_Willis: yep
[23:06] <gfredericks> it has an "Exec=gnome-session-xmonad" line
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> gfredericks:  then you use Lightdm. and select that session.. and it runs whatever that file tells it to.
[23:06] <rostam> HI is there a way to monitor changes to some memory map area in user land? thx
[23:06] <gfredericks> as well as "TryExec=gnome-session"
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> gfredericks:   sure its not 'gnome-session   xmonad' ?
[23:06] <gfredericks> Dr_Willis: do I need to hijack one of those lines and add `xmodmap .Xmodmap`?
[23:06] <gfredericks> Dr_Willis: yep
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> I imagind xmonad has its OWN way to auto-run stuff as well
[23:07] <gfredericks> Dr_Willis: that's probably true, I ought to look into that
[23:07] <gfredericks> Dr_Willis: thanks
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=70933  autostart programs in xmonad (mayu be worht reading)
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> ....   The other option would be to use the startupHook in your xmonad.hs  .....
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> thats about all i know on xmonad ;)
[23:10] <alpha_> what driver i should install for my AMD Radeon 7600 graphic card ? ( ubuntu  12.04 )
[23:10] <[Gentoo]> alpha_: stick with the default one
[23:10] <[Gentoo]> or do you want games
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> gfredericks:  the way you got it setup with lightdm now. its running stuff from the xmonad.session file which MAY be in   /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/
[23:10] <overclucker> gassho: you can mount the drive from the command line with different options. 'sudo mount /dev/sdA# /media/mountpoint -o rw,fmask=000,dmask=000'
[23:11] <alpha_> what different is between their ?
[23:11] <[Gentoo]> alpha_: the default one is more reliable
[23:11] <alpha_> i dont play game much ...
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> alpha_:  differnt versions. Some may work - some may not. when in doubt go with the default/reccomended driver
[23:11] <[Gentoo]> alpha_: stay with the normal one
[23:12] <[Gentoo]> so many people have problems with fglrx
[23:12] <alpha_> but my laptop produce much heat !
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> if the open sourced driver works.. id stick to that one. Unless you got a differnt reason to not use it.
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> that would be such a reason. :)
[23:12] <UserError> alpha_ , put a bigger heatsink on it
[23:12] <UserError> I recommend the Evo 212+
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> try the default/reccomended fglrx drives then and see if it works better
[23:13] <Guest61345> you can call me knifes
[23:13] <UserError> knives*
[23:13] <[Gentoo]> Dr_Willis: thats the thing, people have problems doing even that
[23:13] <[Gentoo]> switchinc back from fglrx
[23:13] <alpha_> The driver in additional driver is : **experimental**beta
[23:14] <k1l_> !fglrx | alpha
[23:14] <alpha_> my laptop is : HP 4540s core i 5 3210-M
[23:15] <rscnt> .
[23:15] <rscnt> .
[23:15] <rscnt> hi
[23:15] <FloodBot1> rscnt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:15] <rscnt> sorrrry
[23:17] <alpha_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]
[23:17] <knifes1234> hello
[23:17] <alpha_> what driver i should install on ubuntu 12.04 for this : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]
[23:18] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, chances are by default you're using the open source radeon driver, which is the one you should use
[23:18] <rscnt> why not the privative?
[23:18] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, you could use fglrx for gaming but like that driver has horrible 2d acceleration and has glitches.
[23:19] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, if you aren't a gamer stick with the open source radeon.
[23:19] <alpha_> Ari-Yang : i dont play game ... i want to decrease heat which is produced by my laptop !
[23:20] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, if you happen to have heating problems, install kernel 3.11 and add the grub boot parameter radeon.dpm=1 to GRUB for dynamic power management (especially if you're on a laptop)
[23:20] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, I can help you with that...
[23:20] <alpha_> how can i install kernel 3.11 ?
[23:20] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, are you on 64bit or 32?
[23:21] <alpha_> Ari : 64bits
[23:21] <dhyana> hm
[23:21] <alpha_> Ari : Is kernel 3.11 latest stable version ?
[23:21] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, yes
[23:22] <alpha_> Ari : I donloaded the kernel 3.11 and now i have it on my laptop
[23:22] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, download this and put it in http://people.freedesktop.org/~agd5f/radeon_ucode/VERDE_smc.bin /lib/firmware/radeon/
[23:22] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, where did you download 3.11 from?
[23:23] <alpha_> Ari : kernel.org
[23:23] <BuJitsuBrown> Hello agian is ther a reset button"
[23:23] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, no no no download this http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.1-saucy/linux-image-3.11.1-031101-generic_3.11.1-031101.201309141102_amd64.deb
[23:23] <BuJitsuBrown> for my soud card
[23:23] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, you aren't going to compile it but simply install the .deb
[23:23] <dhyana> TreE1: here/
[23:24] <MarkusDBX> I'm looking for a freenode channel where Ubuntu sysadmin and storage/raid issues are discussed. Any ideas?
[23:24] <alpha_> Ari : can i compile that myself ?
[23:24] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, just open up the .deb and install it is all you have to do
[23:24] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, before you do that...
[23:24] <kostkon> MarkusDBX, tried in #ubuntu-server?
[23:24] <knifes1234> hello
[23:24] <alpha_> Ari : ok thanks i will come back again :)
[23:25] <MarkusDBX> kostkon: thanks
[23:25] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, in terminal and type gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub and make this line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= look like this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.dpm=1"
[23:25] <Ari-Yang> save it, then in terminal run sudo update-grub alpha_
[23:26] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, install the .deb then reboot...
[23:26] <lapt0p> I have a lubuntu related question, but i think it's a general one, so i'm asking for help here, since the lubuntu channel is like the Nevada desert(no one's there). When i open Skype, the upper part of the Skype GUI is covered by the taskbar and i can't click those buttons. How can i solve this? Thanks in advance.
[23:26] <knifes1234> ubuntu 13.04  no go ubuntu 12.10 go
[23:27] <TheBombMaker> spamspamspam
[23:28] <alpha_> Ari : what should i tupe in terminal ?
[23:28] <alpha_> type*
[23:28] <BuJitsuBrown> is ther a reset "button" for my sound card ?
[23:28] <alpha_> exactly please
[23:28] <Ari-Yang> gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub <--- alpha_
[23:28] <Japella> gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub <- alpha_ now has -1 karma
[23:29] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, make this line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= look like this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.dpm=1"
[23:29] <Ari-Yang> save it then in terminal run sudo update-grub
[23:29] <alpha_> before i install the .deb ??
[23:29] <Ari-Yang> yes
[23:29] <alpha_> which one is first ?
[23:30] <alpha_> installing or editing ?
[23:30] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, edit grub first...
[23:30] <alpha_> ok
[23:30] <alpha_> ok
[23:30] <alpha_> thanks
[23:30] <FloodBot1> alpha_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:30] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, did you download http://people.freedesktop.org/~agd5f/radeon_ucode/VERDE_smc.bin and move it to /lib/firmware/radeon
[23:31] <Ari-Yang> if you didn't, make sure you do...
[23:33] <BuJitsuBrown> is ther a reset "button" for my sound card ?
[23:33] <alpha_> Ari : i cant find any karma -1 word
[23:33] <lapt0p> I have a lubuntu related question, but i think it's a general one, so i'm asking for help here, since the lubuntu channel is like the Nevada desert(no one's there). When i open Skype, the upper part of the Skype GUI is covered by the taskbar and i can't click those buttons. How can i solve this? Thanks in advance.
[23:33] <Ari-Yang> alpha_ what?
[23:33] <Ari-Yang> .__.
[23:33] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, when you're done http://pastebin.com your grub and link me
[23:34] <alpha_> ok
[23:34] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, just change the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.dpm=1"
[23:34] <Ari-Yang> save, close gedit, then type sudo update-grub in terminal
[23:35] <alpha_> Ari : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117162/
[23:36] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, that's good, in case you need to boot into an old kernel remove the # on line and add # at the beginning of lines 7 and 8
[23:36] <Ari-Yang> after send me a new pastebin
[23:36] <lapt0p> I have a lubuntu related question, but i think it's a general one, so i'm asking for help here, since the lubuntu channel is like the Nevada desert(no one's there). When i open Skype, the upper part of the Skype GUI is covered by the taskbar and i can't click those buttons. How can i solve this? Thanks in advance.
[23:37] <alpha_> do you mean that i dont need to kernel 3.11 ?
[23:37] <Ari-Yang> Ari-Yang, on line 11 put radeon.dpm=1 after splash
[23:37] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, this is preparing for kernel 3.11...
[23:37] <alpha_> ok
[23:38] <alpha_> so what line i should delete the # from ?
[23:38]  * Ari-Yang sighs
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> lapt0p:  alt-click in the window anywhere. and drag it down
[23:38] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=PmMWEZ8p make yours look like this http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=PmMWEZ8p
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> lapt0p:  this is a feature of X and should work in any window manager i belive
[23:39] <lapt0p> Dr_Willis: Thanks a LOT :)
[23:39] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, save, close gedit, run sudo update-grub
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> lapt0p:  i have a tool that adds the same feature to windows. ;)
[23:39] <alpha_> Ari : please copy that on paste.ubuntu.com
[23:39] <alpha_> thanks :)
[23:39] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117179/
[23:39] <Ari-Yang> brb
[23:40] <alpha_> thanks
[23:40] <knifes1234> ti
[23:40] <alpha_> are i saved that
[23:40] <alpha_> Ari : I saved that
[23:42] <alpha_> Ari : I ran  sudo update-grub
[23:42] <gassho> how do you open the file explorer with sudo
[23:42] <lapt0p> Could someone recommend a good book for learning bash?
[23:42] <k1l_> gassho: gksudo. but be aware of what you do
[23:42] <lapt0p> A book which is understandable by a beginner.
[23:43] <lapt0p> Or better said, a book for learning the Linux terminal
[23:44] <knifes1234> what
[23:44] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, download http://people.freedesktop.org/~agd5f/radeon_ucode/VERDE_smc.bin and move it to /lib/firmware/radeon
[23:44] <gassho> y thank u
[23:44] <alpha_> ok
[23:44] <gassho> what do they call the latest unity file explorer?
[23:45] <alpha_> Ari :i did that
[23:45] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, wait what's your graphics card?
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> gasso, nautilus
[23:45] <gassho> yay yay yay tytytyttyty
[23:46] <alpha_> amd ati radeon
[23:46] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, run this in terminal: lspci | grep VGA
[23:46] <Ari-Yang> what do you get?
[23:47] <alpha_> Ari : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117194/
[23:47] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, while you're at it in terminal type: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors then run sensors and pastebin that and link me...
[23:47] <b0unce> While setting permissions on files, for what is used the first number? e.g. 00755 (here the first zero)
[23:47] <gassho> it a stilla dont a want a let me a paste a folder :C
[23:48] <gassho> (onto the pendrive)
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> gasso, C as in windows, if so how are you mounting it?
[23:49] <alpha_> Ari : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117201/
[23:50] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, in terminal just run sensors and pastebin that for me too...
[23:51] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, also download both http://people.freedesktop.org/~agd5f/radeon_ucode/TURKS_smc.bin and put it in /lib/firmware/radeon
[23:51] <overclucker> gassho: sudo mount /dev/sdA# /media/mountpoint -o rw,fmask=000,dmask=000
[23:51] <alpha_> what are sensors ?
[23:51] <Ari-Yang> just run sensors in terminal, it gives you your laptop's temperature
[23:51] <kangping> Hello
[23:51] <Ari-Yang> pastebin it for me, I want to see it...
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> !sensors
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> alpha__
[23:53] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, after you download and move TURKS_smc.bin install the kernel 3.11 .deb then reboot. your laptop will load GRUB, just select ubuntu from it (it should automatically when the timeout finishes), your laptop's temperature should decrease by a lot. make sure to come back here and tell me how it goes.
[23:53] <alpha_> Ari : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117208/
[23:54] <alpha_> should i download this ? : http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.1-saucy/linux-image-3.11.1-031101-generic_3.11.1-031101.201309141102_amd64.deb
[23:54] <kangping> I'm having issues installing my graphics card (nvidia Optimus). I tried the bumblebee project with fixes I could find online, but without any success. This is my third attempt at wiping my hdd, and I believe I need some help at installing this properly. Would anyone be so kind and guide me or give me the hint, that will crack my problem? :)
[23:55] <Ari-Yang> alpha_: yes, I linked you this http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.1-saucy/linux-image-3.11.1-031101-generic_3.11.1-031101.201309141102_amd64.deb
[23:55] <Ari-Yang> download and install it
[23:55] <Ari-Yang> then reboot...
[23:55] <ironfoot495> Hello people I'm looking for someone who can help me figure out the error message:bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('. I get this message when ever I use the funtion => $fp = fopen("/var/www/php_script/orders.txt", 'r');. I'm trying to read a file and the ubuntu machine just wont read it???
[23:56] <Pici> ironfoot495: that doesn't look like a bash script.
[23:56] <alpha_> Ari : My internet speed is low .. it takes 15 minute to download that
[23:57] <Ari-Yang> okay
[23:57] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, you aren't using any wifi proprietary driver are you (like broadcam)? because if you are, disable it before you reboot.
[23:57] <ironfoot495> I've changed the permissions and even used the function file_exists but still I have serious problems.
[23:57] <ironfoot495> No it it is the result of the bash script.
[23:58] <alpha_> my wifi LED always is on ...
[23:58] <alpha_> on ubuntu
[23:58] <alpha_> Ari : I will come back
[23:58] <alpha_> see you
[23:58] <Ari-Yang> ...I'm asking if you're using a proprietary wifi driver :| if you didn't installany
[23:58] <Ari-Yang> * any