[04:49] <micahg> ochosi: I have the patch and the change I need to make, but I'll have to upload tomorrow
[10:01] <Noskcaj> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/xubuntu/xubuntu-recent-bug-tasks.html yay?
[11:41] <ochosi> ali1234: wanna help write up the instructions for gtk3 indicators in xubuntu in the wiki?
[14:53] <jjfrv8> Running Xfwm4 Settings testcase, hit bug 1181134. Had to do a hard reboot after submitting the bug. Everything was locked up.
[14:53] <ubottu> bug 1181134 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu) "xfce4-indicator-plugin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1181134
[20:38] <Noskcaj> The latest update just gave me the "ubuntu web browser". Can someone explain
[20:43] <bluesabre> ?
[20:45] <ochosi> yeah, i got that too
[20:45] <ochosi> seems like some mobile stuff
[20:48] <bluesabre> I saw one of the packages pulled in click package support the other day
[20:56] <Noskcaj> It's called webbrowser app
[21:11] <skellat> bluesabre Noskcaj -- Flag that to cjwatson as I don't think he wants that happening on the desktop side at all.  He'd possibly appreciate the feedback.
[21:12] <knome> yap.
[21:12] <knome> or stgraber.
[21:12] <knome> or just poke people at #ubuntu-release
[21:12] <knome> bluesabre, you're in the release team..
[21:12] <knome> bluesabre, but you don't seem to be on the channel
[21:47] <brainwash> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1204486
[21:47] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1204486 in LightDM GTK+ Greeter "Unable to select alternate languages at login screen" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[21:47] <brainwash> the priority of this bug needs to be set to high I guess
[21:48] <knome> we're working on it.
[21:49] <brainwash> is it a gtk-greeter bug only?
[21:50] <ochosi> it doesn't seem like it
[21:50] <ochosi> we don't know yet what's causing it
[21:50] <ochosi> not unlikely that it's logind
[21:50] <ochosi> even ubuntu seems to have that problem
[21:50] <ochosi> i'm currently asking whether ubuntu-gnome has the same issue
[21:50] <brainwash> ofc it's related to the systemd/logind :D
[21:51] <ochosi> yeah, but it's not certain whether the problem is in xfce4-session, or lightdm or the greeter
[21:52] <brainwash> lubuntu users seems to be affected too
[21:52] <knome> ochosi, do you think you could come up with a better bug description?
[21:53] <ochosi> brainwash: yeah, which kinda rules out xfce4-session...
[21:53] <ochosi> (but not entirely)
[21:53] <brainwash> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1213837
[21:53] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1213837 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "I cannot select an Xsession after logout from Lubuntu Saucy Daily" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[21:53] <ochosi> knome: well i'd love to, but it's just not really clear what's going on yet
[21:53] <knome> ochosi, can we make it point to something else than the languages?
[21:54] <knome> "Greeter is in lock-mode after logout" or sth
[21:54] <brainwash> restart is missing to
[21:54] <brainwash> after the first logout
[21:54] <brainwash> the option to restart I mean
[21:54] <ochosi> yeah, true
[21:55] <ochosi> same version of the greeter works fine though in R
[21:56] <brainwash> can consolekit still be used in saucy?
[21:56] <ochosi> well tbh i don't like the fact that ubuntu is pushing unstable versions of lightdm down our throat
[21:57] <knome> ochosi, but again, whining about it won't fix the bugs, will it?
[21:57] <ochosi> well don't you whine about my whining, i'm at least asking around
[21:57] <Unit193> In theory it could, if he needed to vent before he could take a llook. ;)
[21:58] <ochosi> anyhoo, the desktop-folks say they're too busy to even look
[21:59] <knome> ochosi, fssst, :P
[22:00] <ochosi> knome: my main point being: it wasn't even whining, but rather pointing out what might be the source of the problem (lightdm being updated with micro-releases to hopefully get Mir to work for 13.10)
[22:00] <knome> yeah, sure
[22:00] <knome> i'm not whining about anything
[22:01] <knome> i'm just as frustrated that it doesn't work as you are
[22:01] <ochosi> yeah, blows a bit that even the ubuntu folks don't see this as problematic as we are
[22:01] <ochosi> we even have a patch in our pipe
[22:02] <knome> is it confirmed that works?
[22:02] <ochosi> which would fix things for most i guess
[22:02] <knome> okay...
[22:02] <ochosi> well it doesn't hurt anyway
[22:02] <knome> so where's the patch?
[22:02] <ochosi> i have it here locally
[22:02] <ochosi> but what it doesn't fix is locking
[22:02] <knome> okay
[22:03] <ochosi> probably not a tragedy because we're not using it by default in 13.10
[22:03] <knome> what does it fix then?
[22:03] <knome> locking?
[22:03] <ochosi> the logging out (or so it seems)
[22:03] <ochosi> it still takes ages to log out though
[22:03] <ochosi> it just fixes the greeter somewhat
[22:03] <ochosi> have to retest though
[22:03] <knome> fixes - in what way?
[22:05] <ochosi> brb
[22:07] <knome> skellat, thanks for updating the wiki. missed that.
[22:07] <knome> and with that - bah, need to make sure i can make the meeting.
[22:08] <ochosi> so selecting languages is fine with that i guess
[22:08] <ochosi> and sessions too
[22:09] <ochosi> so the patch does improve the situation
[22:09] <Unit193> knome: This week?
[22:09] <ochosi> not sure it 100% fixes all of the problems
[22:09] <knome> Unit193, tuesday 15UTC
[22:10] <knome> was the comments from robert of any help?
[22:10] <Unit193> Ah, thanks.  Adding to cal.
[22:10] <ochosi> yeah, that's what we used to create the patch