| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| vmussa | hello everyone | 03:38 |
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| vmussa | I have a small SDD disk and I'm thinking about installing Xubuntu on it or in the HDD | 03:39 |
| vmussa | is there any possibilities of ruining SSD? | 03:40 |
| vmussa | if I do something wrong? | 03:40 |
| pleia2 | works fine for me | 03:45 |
| pleia2 | been using xubuntu on my netbook ssd for almost 5 years, and my new desktop has an ssd that I put xubuntu on, very fast, it's lovely :) | 03:45 |
| vmussa | pleia2, I see. Cool! | 03:47 |
| vmussa | pleia2, but I'm worried about messing up the SSD, since I was told that there is things you can do that will mess it up | 03:47 |
| vmussa | and I'm very much a newbie | 03:48 |
| pleia2 | I don't know anything about that | 03:48 |
| vmussa | so the chances of doing something wrong are good haha | 03:48 |
| pleia2 | I don't really mess around with overclocking or anything crazy on my hardware | 03:48 |
| vmussa | Hmm | 03:49 |
| vmussa | the thing is that I want to install it alongside windows 8 | 03:49 |
| vmussa | and I'm thinking of installing it in the HDD but I'm not sure how | 03:50 |
| pleia2 | in the installer you can select where you want to install it | 03:50 |
| vmussa | cool | 03:51 |
| vmussa | the fact that it is lighter than Ubuntu has something to do with the hard disk too or only RAM? | 03:52 |
| vmussa | I mean Xubuntu on HDD will still be faster than Ubuntu on HDD? | 03:53 |
| pleia2 | ram and cpu | 03:55 |
| pleia2 | there aren't any optimizations for hdd | 03:55 |
| vmussa | I see | 03:58 |
| vmussa | thank you pleia2! | 03:58 |
| [0gb_us] | The Ubuntu Software Center, apt-get, and the Software Updater all crash as soon as I start them. Is there a way to repair this, or do I have to reinstall Xubuntu again? This seems to happen to me every few months .... | 04:01 |
| [0gb_us] | I'm tired of re-installing Xubuntu. Any advice on how to not have to is greatly appreciated. | 04:02 |
| nerdtron | [0gb_us], sudo apt-get update, any errors? | 04:03 |
| [0gb_us] | No errors, just a crash after line three. | 04:03 |
| [0gb_us] | Oops, I thought you said 'upgrade'. Trying 'update' now. | 04:04 |
| [0gb_us] | That seemed to have fixed it, though the impending software updates were lost to the void. I swear I tried that last time, and I had this issue with no effect .... | 04:06 |
| [0gb_us] | Anyway, thanks nerdtron! | 04:06 |
| nerdtron | always remember to update first then upgrade | 04:07 |
| [0gb_us] | I was using the graphical interface when this all started. I was trying to use the software center. | 04:08 |
| [0gb_us] | i would use apt-get exclusively, as it lists dependencies before installation, but if you don't know the name of what you're looking for, apt-get can't help you. | 04:09 |
| [0gb_us] | *I | 04:09 |
| nerdtron | [0gb_us], yes you can | 04:11 |
| nerdtron | apt-get cache search web browser | 04:11 |
| yeyeman | what the ... | 04:12 |
| [0gb_us] | Trying ... | 04:12 |
| nerdtron | apt-get cache show girefox | 04:12 |
| nerdtron | apt-get cache show firefox | 04:12 |
| nerdtron | sorry | 04:12 |
| nerdtron | apt-cache search web browser | 04:12 |
| yeyeman | slightly rotating the sound cord seems to change system volume | 04:12 |
| yeyeman | haven't seen this before | 04:12 |
| nerdtron | [0gb_us], apt-cache search web browser | 04:13 |
| nerdtron | i had a typo :) | 04:13 |
| nerdtron | yeyeman, how does it change? mute to unmute? | 04:14 |
| yeyeman | nerdtron, no full vol to half vol | 04:14 |
| [0gb_us] | "apt-cache search web browser" dumps a little data to the console, but nothing else happens, and "apt-cache search firefox" seems to do nothing at all. | 04:14 |
| nerdtron | apt-cache search firefox no entries at all??? i have at least 100 | 04:16 |
| nerdtron | what version are you using? | 04:16 |
| [0gb_us] | Not no entries, just very few. | 04:16 |
| [0gb_us] | Version of what, Xubuntu? 12.04.* | 04:17 |
| nerdtron | yes, try apt-cache show firefox and it will show you the info on firefox before you install it.. | 04:17 |
| [0gb_us] | Oh, for "firefox"? Yeah, no entries at all. | 04:17 |
| nerdtron | oh...hmmm haven't tried it as i have 13.04 | 04:18 |
| [0gb_us] | I tried searching for "leveldb" and "leveldb-dev", and no info there either. | 04:18 |
| [0gb_us] | Anyway, you still seem to need to know the package name to find it, which was the original reason I'm not using apt-get for general work anyway. | 04:19 |
| nerdtron | yes..that is why synaptic and software center are included in the GUI..on a server, apt-get is what i use | 04:20 |
| [0gb_us] | Software Center has the issue of not telling you what else you're installing when you try to install one application - an issue fixed in GNU/Linux Mint. I'll look into Synaptic. | 04:22 |
| [0gb_us] | Synaptic seems to fail to list dependencies as well. | 04:23 |
| [0gb_us] | Never mind, it just doesn't list them on the main page. This will work. Thank you! | 04:24 |
| [0gb_us] | Sorry to keep posting problems, but I have another. I select all files in my home directory, right click, and try to make an archive. After a few seconds, I'm told that permission is denied, though it won't be specific and tell me if a particular file or directory is the issue. | 04:44 |
| nerdtron | [0gb_us], chmod everything? | 06:12 |
| kj5t | [0gb_us]: Probably the easiest thing to do, assuming these files are on your local system is just to chown them to your user and group | 06:14 |
| [0gb_us] | I tried that. It seems to be aliases that are the issue. Instead of reporting that there is a symlink that it doesn't like, it reports a permission error. Even if the symlink points to something I do have permission to use. | 06:14 |
| [0gb_us] | So permission errors were never the issue, the system was just lying to me. | 06:15 |
| nerdtron | hmm maybe you don't have write permissions on where you want to save the tar file? | 06:15 |
| [0gb_us] | I do. If I save to the same directory without the symlink, it works. | 06:16 |
| === xubuntu276 is now known as loosec | ||
| [0gb_us] | Now I'm dealing with some other error that kills the archive when I try to compress all my files. i'm having to add my files to the archive one directory at a time to try to see which directory has the error. and doing so is slow, because the archiver reads the whole archive, adds the directory of files, re-compresses, and repeats. | 06:18 |
| [0gb_us] | If I could compress them all in one go, it'd be way faster. | 06:19 |
| nerdtron | [0gb_us], what is your command to create a tar file? | 06:48 |
| [0gb_us] | nerdtron, not a command. I select all directories (control + a), right click, and choose "make archive". | 07:00 |
| nerdtron | are you including hidden directories? | 07:01 |
| [0gb_us] | Yes I am. | 07:01 |
| nerdtron | maybe some of the hidden folder causes errors.. i say its the .ssh folder | 07:01 |
| [0gb_us] | .ssh is successfully in the archive. | 07:02 |
| nerdtron | don't include hidden directories in your backup...why do you need them anyway? | 07:02 |
| [0gb_us] | Much of my data is in these so-called hidden directories. | 07:03 |
| [0gb_us] | I forget what all is in there, but there are game saves and plugins I built. | 07:03 |
| [0gb_us] | And my system settings. | 07:04 |
| [0gb_us] | So far, only symlink files seem to be the issue, and not all of those are (were) in hidden directories. | 07:05 |
| [0gb_us] | Oh yeah, there's also the virtual machine I was using for homework. VirtualBox puts those in a hidden directory. | 07:06 |
| [0gb_us] | So much would be lost if I ignored hidden directories in my backups. | 07:06 |
| well_laid_lawn | https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/can-i-back-up-hidden-files-using-tar-498684/ | 07:11 |
| [0gb_us] | I wasn't using tar though, and hidden directories are backing up with no difficulty. It's symlinks and only symlinks that will not back up properly. | 07:13 |
| well_laid_lawn | man <whateveryouareusing> and see what it says about symlinks | 07:14 |
| [0gb_us] | That might work. Thanks! | 07:14 |
| [0gb_us] | Now I just need to figure out what I'm using, but I can probably find that in the menu. | 07:14 |
| elfy | if it's the default gui archiver it's file-roller I believe | 07:15 |
| elfy | and it says absolutely nothing about symlinks in the man page | 07:15 |
| [0gb_us] | "Exec=file-roller %U", yep, that would be it. | 07:15 |
| [0gb_us] | Drats. | 07:16 |
| elfy | I just created one with a symlink successfully | 07:17 |
| [0gb_us] | Huh ... I wonder why it's failing for me then ... | 07:17 |
| well_laid_lawn | file-roller would just be an interface to different archiving apps afaik | 07:18 |
| elfy | try running it from a terminal - see if that points to the error | 07:18 |
| elfy | well_laid_lawn: it is - uses tar etc to do the work | 07:19 |
| [0gb_us] | Check your archive. Did it compress the symlink or did it follow the link and compress the contents of the other directory? THat's what it does for me when I try to compress only one file and it is a symlink. | 07:19 |
| elfy | [0gb_us]: it id both - archived the link AND the link target | 07:20 |
| [0gb_us] | I'll try once the non-command line copy stops running. Running two instances would be a bad idea, one instance is already eating a lot of my power. | 07:20 |
| [0gb_us] | Resources, I should say, not power. | 07:20 |
| [0gb_us] | Wait ... I don't even know how to run this from the command line. I could enter "file-roller', but that doesn't tell the application what files to compress the way the right click menu does. | 07:22 |
| elfy | it starts it - then you use the gui to set up the archive | 07:23 |
| [0gb_us] | The GUI doesn't seem to be able to add multiple files. | 07:25 |
| [0gb_us] | I can't add a single directory, as the directory is ~, and I don't have somewhere outside ~ to save it to. | 07:25 |
| elfy | seems not | 07:28 |
| [0gb_us] | I think I remember tar having the same problem for me in the past ... Perhaps tar doesn't like my system. | 07:29 |
| elfy | good luck - I'm off now | 07:30 |
| [0gb_us] | G'night! | 07:30 |
| elfy | I wish - it's 830am - work calls :p | 07:30 |
| [0gb_us] | Good luck then! | 07:30 |
| elfy | :) | 07:30 |
| cultavix | good morning | 07:38 |
| cultavix | just wanted to say that I am loving Xubuntu | 07:38 |
| wachira | bluetooth manager keeps on crashing on my xubuntu | 07:43 |
| wachira | any help | 07:43 |
| well_laid_lawn | wachira: what happens if you start the bluetooth manager from a terminal ? | 08:10 |
| cfhowlett | well_laid_lawn, cascade failure resulting in an inter-dimensional rift which allows hostile aliens to enter our realm and enslave the earth. | 08:11 |
| cfhowlett | or | 08:11 |
| well_laid_lawn | heh | 08:12 |
| cfhowlett | starting from terminal or starting from gui results in the same outcome | 08:12 |
| well_laid_lawn | but it is easy to see why if the error is in a terminal | 08:12 |
| cfhowlett | well_laid_lawn, that's true.. | 08:13 |
| fdel | I just upgraded to ubuntu 13.04 (xfce 4.10), and gnome-system-manager has a black background in the "resources" tab graphs. Is there a way to make the normal background appear? | 09:45 |
| fdel | (IIRC I had the same issue in 12.10 but had it fixed somehow; just can't find the link anymore) | 09:45 |
| knome | fdel, sounds like a possible theming issue | 09:54 |
| nerdtron | fdel, fresh install or dist-upgrade? | 09:57 |
| fdel | upgrade | 09:58 |
| fdel | from 12.10 | 09:58 |
| fdel | knome, nerdtron: http://tinypic.com/r/10f9mj4/5 | 10:04 |
| knome | fdel, yep, looks like a theming issue. | 10:05 |
| knome | fdel, file a bug against shimmer-themes | 10:05 |
| fdel | knome: I use Xfce-smooth style. Oddly as I try other styles, sometimes the normal appearance "appears", but when closing/reopening the syst manager, the problem comes back | 10:07 |
| nerdtron | fdel, i have no idea.. sorry, at least that is your only issue in upgrading your system...i have no luck in terms of in place upgrades.. i alway sdo fresh install | 10:12 |
| fdel | knome: dpkg -S says Xfce-smooth is in /usr/share/themes/Xfce-smooth/gtk-2.0/gtkrc | 10:14 |
| fdel | so I guess a gtk2/3 issue | 10:14 |
| fdel | I mean in gtk2-engines-xfce package | 10:14 |
| koegs | how can i add a new user with encrypted home? | 10:15 |
| koegs | the standard-dialog does not have that option | 10:16 |
| yeyeman | which version of skype should I choose? | 10:52 |
| kj5t | yeyeman: I am running 4.2.0.11 and it is working well on 13.04 | 10:53 |
| yeyeman | the previous version I had would crash randomly | 10:57 |
| yeyeman | and worse, crash reliably if I tried to call or accept a call | 10:57 |
| Monkeytoe | I am synergy to allow one keyboard/mouse to control multiple desktops. My linux desktop is one of those. It works fine except for when I start the linux computer up. Right now I just have synergy set in the program autostart menu which means it does not sync the keyboard/mouse until after the user login is complete. How can I get the command /usr/bin/synergyc 10.10.0.2 to run before the user login is prompted? | 12:25 |
| Monkeytoe | *I am using synergy | 12:25 |
| koegs | Monkeytoe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto#Autostart_Synergy_before_logging_in_.28LightDM.29 | 12:28 |
| Monkeytoe | nice ! | 12:29 |
| Monkeytoe | so LightDM is the desktop manager xubuntu uses? | 12:29 |
| koegs | Monkeytoe: yes | 12:29 |
| knome | the login manager, yes | 12:29 |
| xubuntu289 | Hi all I am using xubuntu 13.04 with the latest AMD stable display driver and the 3.9.13 kernel and when I restart or shutdown I get black and blue stripes | 12:54 |
| Monkeytoe | sweet it worked, thanks koegs :) | 13:00 |
| Monkeytoe | one other question... I have my desktop configured as a dual monitor... I moved my panel to the right monitor so that is where my whiskermenu and application icons are... the only issue I have with that is when I right click a program or file and hit "add to desktop" it adds it to the left monitor instead of the right. I cant for the life of me figure out how to set the right monitor as the main monitor and then extend the desktop of | 13:02 |
| Monkeytoe | f to the left in catalyst control panel. Is there any way to specify which monitor to place new icons on? | 13:02 |
| ruien | Hello all. I'm using Xubuntu 13.04, and for the first time plugged in a second monitor. After booting into xfce, my panels look completely wrong, similar to a very vanilla Xfce session, and many icons are missing. Changing the "Style" in "Settings Manager -> Appearance" has no effect. The problem is reversible -- remove the second monitor, and after booting everything looks completely normal. Has anyone seen this before? | 13:29 |
| ruien | Okay, I fixed it. Strangely, restarting has no effect at all, but logging out, logging into a new user with default configuration, then logging out and logging back into my own user fixed the problem. | 13:35 |
| horrow | hello guys | 14:53 |
| GridCube | !hi | horrow | 15:12 |
| ubottu | horrow: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 15:12 |
| doug_ | what is the substitute for ctrl+alt+-> (right arrow). I want to move a window to another workspace | 17:19 |
| Pici | usually ctrl+alt+shift+-> | 17:20 |
| bgardner | Or right click title, 'Move to another workspace' | 17:20 |
| doug_ | sorry, it was my fault. I am trying ctrl+alt+shift+-> but it isn't working | 17:21 |
| doug_ | I am using bgardner solution atm, but I would like to use my keyboard | 17:21 |
| Sysi | doug_: see window manager settings, you can actually set combination there and see the default | 17:22 |
| bgardner | doug_: Check Settings->Window Manager->Keyboard->Move Window to ... | 17:22 |
| doug_ | it is set to alt+ctrl+KP_1 | 17:25 |
| doug_ | what would be kp1? | 17:25 |
| doug_ | oh no, sorry | 17:25 |
| doug_ | it is alt+ctrl+home | 17:25 |
| doug_ | alt+ctrl+end | 17:25 |
| doug_ | what a weird combination, but I like it | 17:25 |
| doug_ | anyways, any idea of what is KP_1? | 17:27 |
| Pici | 1 on your keypad | 17:27 |
| bgardner | doug_: Key pad 1 | 17:27 |
| doug_ | so I can have 9 workspaces and send the window directly to them | 17:28 |
| doug_ | thanks guys | 17:28 |
| l01 | it seems I cannot set the date on 12.10: after a couple of seconds, it returns back to today. Is this a bug? | 18:00 |
| GridCube | probably you dont understand how to set time in linux | 18:00 |
| GridCube | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-set-date-time-from-linux-command-prompt/ | 18:01 |
| l01 | GridCube: date -s gives the same behavior. | 18:02 |
| l01 | also does --set= | 18:03 |
| l01 | Never mind, it's VirtualBox Guest Additions http://askubuntu.com/questions/35566 | 18:05 |
| xubuntu354 | hi, there is any way to set snippets to a keyboard shortcut?? thanks in advance | 18:38 |
| GridCube | xubuntu354, yes | 19:02 |
| GridCube | make an executable file, and link it to a keyboard shotrcut | 19:03 |
| luis__ | hello gridcube, i was wondering if there is a way to create a shortcut for text, for example i press ctrl+9 and insert text "hello world" | 19:04 |
| GridCube | he left? | 19:16 |
| === Maple__ is now known as [Rainbow_Dash] | ||
| ciderbat | can anyone here shed some light on a problem I'm having? | 22:28 |
| knome | !anyone | ciderbat | 22:28 |
| ubottu | ciderbat: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. | 22:28 |
| ciderbat | I reinstalled Xubuntu 12.04 and now it won't load anything past the lightdm login | 22:29 |
| ciderbat | dropping to TTY and doing "sudo startx" only tells me it's already running | 22:29 |
| ciderbat | i've installed it twice today to the same problem | 22:29 |
| GridCube | ciderbat, from a tty run: sudo service lightdm stop | 22:33 |
| GridCube | then run it back and see if a message changes | 22:33 |
| ciderbat | thanks. i'll boot and try it then i'll check back here [in live USB currently] | 22:35 |
| GridCube | ciderbat, you can install irssi and log in from a terminal | 22:35 |
| GridCube | i mean, log in here | 22:35 |
| ciderbat | ok. gonna use weechat :) | 22:36 |
| GridCube | P: same but takes longer to install | 22:36 |
| ciderbat | i stopped light dm. it said "checking battery state" and then i started it again to the same issue | 22:43 |
| GridCube | mmhm | 22:43 |
| GridCube | when you stop the lightdm service you can try the startx | 22:44 |
| ciderbat | this is very odd since I formatted my root partition and did a clean install | 22:44 |
| ciderbat | ok, ill try that | 22:44 |
| GridCube | i don't know | 22:44 |
| ciderbat | ok i'm in the barebones XFCE X window now | 22:45 |
| GridCube | interesting | 22:45 |
| ciderbat | oh no, now i do ctrl alt f7 to go back to it and it's just that "checking battery state" again | 22:46 |
| ciderbat | oh, nm, it works with f8 | 22:46 |
| GridCube | ciderbat, try deleting the .Xauthoriy and .ICEauthority in your ~/ folder | 22:46 |
| GridCube | i don't know why but deleting them sometimes fixes booting from lightdm | 22:47 |
| knome | GridCube, that's related to file permissions - they are flawed at least if you boot with root to the graphical interface (which you shouldn't do) | 22:48 |
| GridCube | mmkay :) | 22:48 |
| GridCube | i just know that reseting them by deleting them many times fix failed lightdm sessions | 22:49 |
| knome | sure | 22:49 |
| ciderbat | Thank you so much!!! | 22:50 |
| ciderbat | It all makes sense now. I carried over my /home partition from the previous install, so the problems that were happening with that one were affecting this one since it's in /home and not / | 22:51 |
| ciderbat | now for many hours of apt-get! | 22:51 |
| GridCube | o: it fixed you? | 22:53 |
| GridCube | :D | 22:53 |
| ciderbat | yes | 22:53 |
| ciderbat | thank you again! | 22:53 |
| GridCube | nvm :) | 22:53 |
| ciderbat | it must have been the same thing causing X11 to go wonky before I reinstalled too | 22:54 |
| GridCube | prolly | 22:54 |
| ciderbat | i don't know why it happened. Maybe I shouldn't have merged Xubuntu with "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and then tried to backpedal. My comp was so messy after that | 22:54 |
| GridCube | mmmhm | 22:55 |
| GridCube | sounds about messy | 22:55 |
| ciderbat | oh that's weird. some of my games are still there | 22:55 |
| ciderbat | I tend to experiment a lot, but I think this time around I'll try and keep my system clean. Kind of silly to use a light distro and then throw a ton of random stuff at it | 22:58 |
| JonathanD | Good evening. I'm trying to get the (old) nvidia driver working on an (old) laptop. And I have, except it seems to detect the wrong native resolution for the display and do weird things as a result. | 23:16 |
| Unit193 | JonathanD: Howdy. And you can't set "Display" in the Settings Manager? | 23:18 |
| JonathanD | in display it maxes out below the native res. | 23:19 |
| JonathanD | It's not centered, either, it's top-left with weird corruption in the lower and right borders | 23:19 |
| Unit193 | Fun times. I'm guessing there's an nvidia settings manager, but what I do personally is force the mode with xrandr on startup by adding the mode and switching to it, but pretty sure that's not the best way. Normally I've used X -configure in a TTY to generate an xorg.conf file, but you can also use a minimal one to set the res (and driver?) you need. | 23:20 |
| JonathanD | the settings manager doesn't work properly with the older nvidia driver | 23:21 |
| JonathanD | (nvidia-96) | 23:21 |
| JonathanD | "The nvidia x driver on ubuntu:0.0 is not new enough to support the nvidia-settings..." | 23:22 |
| JonathanD | I do have an xorg.conf created by nvidia-xconfig | 23:23 |
| Unit193 | Yep, so I'd start there. | 23:27 |
| JonathanD | I wonder if it's actually related to the external port. I had to enable twinview w/ clone to get anything to display at all | 23:30 |
| JonathanD | perhaps the lower res is the max it can push to two displays. | 23:30 |
| ciderbat | it's day of the xorg issues! | 23:45 |
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