| ScottK | Hopefully fixed pykde4 uploaded. | 04:42 |
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| ScottK | Meh. Failed on armhf again. | 05:00 |
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| soee | good morning | 06:30 |
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| jussi | shadeslayer: oh shadeslayer, where art thou! | 07:08 |
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| smartboyhw | Noskcaj: Has yofel managed to work out your package yet? | 08:15 |
| yofel | well, he decided to leave it as it is after hearing my advice ^^ | 08:17 |
| smartboyhw | yofel: ^^ | 08:17 |
| yofel | it's not that you can't port that to quilt - works fine, but one patch still needs to be applied in rules after the build | 08:17 |
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| soee | yesterday i have upgraded desktop pc with saucy to 4.11.1 :) reboot and after 5 minutes my PC died freezed :< | 08:26 |
| yofel | reproducable? | 08:28 |
| soee | yofel, dont know will test today a si went sleep after that yesterday:) | 08:33 |
| Riddell | yay micro release exception accepted for kde telepathy, well done ScottK https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2013-September/001714.html | 08:46 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: ? | 08:54 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: do you really sleep that late in spain? :P :P | 08:55 |
| shadeslayer | that late? | 08:55 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell yay | 08:55 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: still no reply on that | 08:55 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: isnt it like 11 am there? :P | 08:56 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 08:56 |
| jussi | anyway, PM | 08:56 |
| shadeslayer | I've been awake for about 1:30 hours | 08:56 |
| jussi | *snerk* | 08:56 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: just wait til you have kids... | 08:56 |
| jussi | :P | 08:56 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 08:57 |
| mikhas | or worse, a job … | 09:08 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: on the mailing list? they were talking about it in an irc meeting | 09:28 |
| Riddell | jussi: he'll be going for his siesta soon | 09:28 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ahh | 09:28 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: heh no | 09:28 |
| shadeslayer | have to call up apartments | 09:28 |
| Riddell | airbnb works nice for me, see you in november | 09:29 |
| shadeslayer | okie :) | 09:29 |
| shadeslayer | airbnb is fine for short term rentals | 09:29 |
| Riddell | I'm not sure where all these micro release exceptions are logged, any idea ScottK? | 09:31 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: e-mailed you with some rental links, some of them do long term rents I think | 09:32 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 09:32 |
| shadeslayer | I found idealista to be be pretty good | 09:32 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I also need to be wary of agencies | 09:33 |
| shadeslayer | they charge you about 1.5 months rental | 09:33 |
| shadeslayer | ontop of the deposit + first 2 months | 09:33 |
| shadeslayer | close to about 2000 EUR | 09:33 |
| mikhas | just ask some hostels whether they'd let you a private room for 1-2 months | 09:34 |
| shadeslayer | can't , I need a lease agreement so my paperwork can proceed | 09:35 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: in the uk using gumtree is perfectly common, craigslist is the equivalent US site and Le Bon Coin in france, simple classified adverts, dunno if spain has something similar | 09:51 |
| shadeslayer | Spain has loquo and idealista | 09:52 |
| shadeslayer | also has craigslist | 09:52 |
| shadeslayer | but loads of scams there | 09:52 |
| Riddell | yeah | 09:52 |
| shadeslayer | contacted 3 listings, all of them reverted back with "We used to live in spain, moved to UK/US/some other country, send us a security deposit, we will send you the keys of the apartment to check it out" | 09:53 |
| Riddell | ha, maybe not | 09:55 |
| Riddell | ask for the keys and say you'll then send a deposit | 09:55 |
| shadeslayer | what if they send me bogus keys :p | 09:56 |
| Riddell | so nobody wanting to do plasma active 4? | 09:58 |
| Riddell | Quintasan? | 09:58 |
| * smartboyhw will not be able to participate in any packaging until Thursday (homework + dictation) | 10:05 | |
| Riddell | dictation? | 10:05 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: i.e. you have to recite a passage or a paragraph and write it out in a lesson | 10:07 |
| Riddell | what's the point of that? | 10:08 |
| Riddell | random memory tests aren't going to help you learn anything | 10:09 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: You Westeners will never understand the learning method for Chinese (and specifically, HongKongers) | 10:10 |
| smartboyhw | (srsly) | 10:10 |
| mikhas | just get a new language | 10:11 |
| smartboyhw | LOL | 10:12 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: its the same thing in India | 10:15 |
| shadeslayer | and I find it pointless | 10:15 |
| shadeslayer | rote learning is becoming rampant :/ | 10:16 |
| Riddell | my friend in the English as an Additional Language dept here in Edinburgh says it's a problem for them to explain to parents from many countries why we don't do rote learning and why it's not actually any use | 10:17 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: In Hong Kong, we consider this very useful, since you might want to quote a few sentences from it in your exams and the HKDSE exam (which affects which subjects you can enter in university or whether you can go to one at all) | 10:17 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: btw regarding ktp, where can I read the IRC logs? | 10:18 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: yep, I know, useful for exams, but the exam system is broken if it asks you to recite stuff from memory | 10:18 |
| Riddell | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ :) | 10:18 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: what channel though :) | 10:18 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: #ubuntu-meeting yesterday | 10:18 |
| shadeslayer | aha | 10:18 |
| shadeslayer | hurray | 10:20 |
| shadeslayer | d_ed shall be happy | 10:20 |
| shadeslayer | and then he might sneak in locusts as a dependency | 10:20 |
| Riddell | it was pretty much "kde are a trustworthy sort, fine with me" | 10:20 |
| Riddell | which is lovely | 10:20 |
| shadeslayer | yep :) | 10:20 |
| Riddell | what is locusts? sounds scary | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://xkcd.com/797/ | 10:21 |
| Riddell | :) | 10:23 |
| * Riddell starts throwing bits of PA4 into ~kubuntu-active ppa | 10:45 | |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, \o/ | 10:51 |
| Riddell | hmm share-like-connect fails on arm https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa/+packages | 11:19 |
| Riddell | qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped | 11:19 |
| Riddell | some funky virtual machine error | 11:19 |
| Riddell | yofel: you mentioned that as a known problem? | 11:19 |
| yofel | it is, lemme find the bug | 11:19 |
| yofel | bug 1077116 | 11:20 |
| ubottu | bug 1077116 in qemu (Ubuntu) "automoc4 segfaults when building in an armhf pbuilder on an amd64 host" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1077116 | 11:20 |
| Riddell | yeah that's automoc | 11:20 |
| yofel | as nobody seems to care about that I should maybe try to get in touch with qemu upstream or that'll never get fixed | 11:20 |
| ScottK | Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/MicroReleaseExceptions | 11:39 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: did you ever package bodega-client for muon? | 11:39 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Also, it'd be lovely if you looked at pykde4 on arm again. | 11:40 |
| Riddell | it's on my todo list, slightly scared of it getting to the top | 11:47 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: Dunno. | 12:15 |
| Riddell | meh, plasma active needs an old version of maliit packaged, current version is qt 5 | 12:26 |
| Riddell | 13:26 < notmart> on mer i packaged 0.93 release | 12:30 |
| Riddell | which explains why the patch is for an old version | 12:30 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 12:30 |
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| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 12:45 |
| Riddell | doods: kdepim 4.11 is going to be an lts version maintained by kolab sys | 12:52 |
| Riddell | do we want to keep it in a repo? | 12:52 |
| Riddell | they have packages in OBS, we can take patches from there | 12:52 |
| Riddell | which PPA to use seems to depend on whether upstream kdepim does 4.12 or not | 12:53 |
| Riddell | or they can take our packages from launchpad | 12:54 |
| cortexA9 | hello | 13:00 |
| cortexA9 | kubuntu daily of today doesn't work. | 13:00 |
| cortexA9 | boot error. | 13:00 |
| cortexA9 | for me | 13:00 |
| cortexA9 | anyone have this problem ? | 13:00 |
| soee | what error? | 13:02 |
| cortexA9 | with usb stick, i read Boot Error. | 13:03 |
| cortexA9 | idk. | 13:03 |
| Riddell | hmm, not a very useful error message | 13:04 |
| cortexA9 | very strange. | 13:04 |
| cortexA9 | in the past was good. | 13:04 |
| Riddell | oh quite possibly something has changes to break it | 13:05 |
| Riddell | but it doesn't sound like something kubuntu specific | 13:05 |
| Riddell | could be a general ubuntu issue or could be something on your side | 13:05 |
| cortexA9 | oh.. | 13:05 |
| cortexA9 | i try only kubuntu daily. | 13:05 |
| cortexA9 | *tried. | 13:05 |
| cortexA9 | maybe other version have this issue. | 13:06 |
| cortexA9 | the amd64 one. | 13:06 |
| Riddell | cortexA9: if you want to be super useful you could try the ubuntu daily image and see if it has the same issue, otherwise we'll look at it when someone can | 13:08 |
| cortexA9 | u mean the amd64 one ? | 13:08 |
| cortexA9 | ok i try. | 13:08 |
| cortexA9 | wait a sec. | 13:11 |
| cortexA9 | Riddell: it's my usb stick damaged. | 13:34 |
| Riddell | cortexA9: aah, bad luck for you, good for kubuntu I suppose | 13:36 |
| Riddell | thanks for testing | 13:36 |
| cortexA9 | Riddell: trying with another one. | 13:39 |
| Riddell | anyone remember what happened to /usr/include/solid/control/networkmanager.h kde-workspace-dev ? | 13:50 |
| Riddell | it was in some non existant package | 13:50 |
| yofel | moved to networkmanagement | 13:50 |
| yofel | and isn't shipped | 13:50 |
| Riddell | spose that can be fixed | 13:53 |
| cortexA9 | hello | 14:30 |
| Riddell | hi cortexA9 | 14:31 |
| cortexA9 | hi Riddell all ok. | 14:39 |
| Riddell | great :) | 14:40 |
| cortexA9 | on kubuntu daily. | 14:40 |
| Riddell | hi littlegirl | 14:40 |
| Riddell | littlegirl: moved to ubuntu docs? | 14:40 |
| littlegirl | Riddell: Hey there. (: | 14:42 |
| littlegirl | Riddell: No, just helping out. I had an itch to play in Bazaar and they looked like they needed help. (: | 14:42 |
| littlegirl | Riddell: I'm still a hardcore, die-hard Kubuntu user. (: | 14:43 |
| Riddell | hardcore, die-hard you say? excellent :) | 14:44 |
| cortexA9 | eheh | 14:45 |
| cortexA9 | Riddell: what is trello ? | 14:46 |
| littlegirl | Riddell: I think I started with Edgy and never looked back - I've stayed with it ever since, and fully intend to go with it on my tablet once that's Ironed out. (: | 14:46 |
| Riddell | cortexA9: trello is a nice todo list manager web app | 14:47 |
| Riddell | see trello.com/kubuntu | 14:47 |
| Riddell | littlegirl: what tablet do you have? | 14:47 |
| littlegirl | cortexA9: Here's a YouTube video about Trello that shows a quick summary of how it can be used: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaDf1RqeLfo | 14:47 |
| littlegirl | Riddell: Nexus 7 | 14:48 |
| cortexA9 | Riddell: thanks | 14:48 |
| littlegirl | Riddell: I was the one who was all excited that you guys were working on getting Kubuntu Active to work on that very tablet. (: | 14:48 |
| littlegirl | Riddell: Do you guys need any last minute help before the freeze on Thursday? | 14:50 |
| Riddell | before beta freeze? | 14:51 |
| littlegirl | Yep. (: | 14:51 |
| Riddell | littlegirl: well we've loads of bugs still and docs need packaged and bits need poked into compiling | 14:53 |
| littlegirl | Riddell: Is there a list somewhere of exactly where all of those things are? Also I have no idea how to package docs, and am not sure if I know how to poke bits into compiling, but probably not. (: | 14:54 |
| littlegirl | Riddell: But documentation bugs are right up my alley if you have those. | 14:55 |
| Riddell | https://trello.com/kubuntu | 14:55 |
| Riddell | http://goo.gl/vHRjj | 14:55 |
| Riddell | bugs ^^ | 14:55 |
| Riddell | http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | 14:56 |
| Riddell | things needing compiling ⇈ | 14:56 |
| Riddell | littlegirl: the new docs need a review | 14:56 |
| Riddell | http://docs.kubuntu.org/ | 14:56 |
| littlegirl | Riddell: I'll review those docs. (: | 14:59 |
| soee | yofel, pc works fine so far after yesterday freeze | 15:02 |
| soee | Riddell, do you have 2 minutes to help me a bit ? | 15:03 |
| Riddell | soee: what's up? | 15:03 |
| * BluesKaj gives Netrunner a tryout | 15:04 | |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: what's it like? | 15:04 |
| soee | Riddell, is it possible in saucy to remove one of this 2 NM ? | 15:04 |
| Riddell | soee: yeah I added a script to do that last week | 15:04 |
| Riddell | you can dist-upgrade then log out and in | 15:05 |
| BluesKaj | pretty cool , a mix of some gtk apps and a comprehensive menu with interesting apps and links | 15:05 |
| Riddell | or just remove it manually | 15:05 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell: ^ | 15:05 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: menu? as in homerun menu? | 15:05 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell: no , it's actually more like the kde classicmenu , but extended | 15:06 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: got a screenshot? | 15:06 |
| BluesKaj | yup, hangon | 15:06 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell: bummer , prtscrn doesm't work with an open menu :( | 15:09 |
| yofel | ksnapshot has a delay timer | 15:10 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell: http://imagebin.org/271178 , you'll probly have to do ctrl - to make this image fit a normal monitor , mine's large sreen tv | 15:20 |
| Riddell | that's classic menu all right | 15:21 |
| BluesKaj | gotta installpulseaudio after OS installation too , not default for some reason | 15:23 |
| Riddell | confusing how he's calling both applets plasma NM http://lamarque-lvs.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/plasma-nm-current-and-future.html | 15:29 |
| Riddell | looks like version fiddlyness in the future for modemmanager, make sure we avoid that for saucy | 15:29 |
| Riddell | http://lamarque-lvs.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/the-future-of-modemmanagerqt-and.html | 15:29 |
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| soee | Riddell, i have installed all updates | 15:50 |
| soee | but still 2 NM applets | 15:50 |
| Riddell | fooey | 15:53 |
| Riddell | soee: does ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktoprc contain 06-remove-networkmanagement.js ? | 15:54 |
| soee | Riddell, yes last item in UPDATES: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/plasma-desktop/updates/06-delete-networkmanagement.js | 15:56 |
| Riddell | fooey | 15:56 |
| Riddell | soee: do you have multiple panels? | 15:56 |
| Riddell | plasma active updated in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa/+packages goodness knows if it works at all | 15:57 |
| soee | dont think so, i have only one visible | 15:57 |
| Riddell | my taskbar has stopped refreshing today :( | 15:59 |
| soee | ? | 16:00 |
| soee | is there also contest for kubuntu wallpapers just like ubuntu has ? | 16:14 |
| maco | contest? you mean that thing where they pretend the winner's wallpaper will be ubuntu's wallpaper, and then they hire a designer to make a new one anyway? | 16:25 |
| maco | every. darned. time. | 16:25 |
| maco | no, i think kubuntu uses kde's default wallpaper | 16:25 |
| littlegirl | Riddell: Are you still at your keyboard? | 18:14 |
| littlegirl | valorie: Are you at your keyboard? | 18:15 |
| * littlegirl has a question about formatting in the wiki pages. | 18:16 | |
| littlegirl | I'm reviewing the https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Basic page, and my question is: When a reference is made to an application, like jockey-kde, it's surrounded in single quotes ('jockey-kde'), but not always. Later in the same paragraph it's just plain with no quotes around it. Is there a hard and fast rule about whether applications should get quotes (like when they are first mentioned in a page)? | 18:19 |
| seaLne | saucy seems to resume from suspend way faster than previously? atleast the i can start typing password within a few seconds of opeing the lid, previously it was 30-60s and ocasionally longer (its an oldish laptop) this makes things feel so much better, thanks | 20:01 |
| ovidiu-florin | hello world, anyone here? | 21:31 |
| ovidiu-florin | just tried to install kubuntu 13.04 on a computer and something went wrong with the kubuntu logo durring boot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NDOdXM74Ug | 21:33 |
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