[00:00] <Akiva-Mobile> What is the usual explanation for overly large pulls?
[00:03] <wgrant> Overly large changes on the branch you're pulling from.
[00:03] <Akiva-Mobile> My co- programmer is complaining that what his pulls are larger than our project itself
[00:03] <wgrant> Is he authenticated to Launchpad?
[00:03] <Akiva-Mobile> does merging work better than pulling/
[00:03] <wgrant> Pulling over unauthenticated HTTP is usually less efficient.
[00:03] <Akiva-Mobile> wgrant: I believe so
[00:03] <Akiva-Mobile> but our project max size is 70 megabytes, and he is well over 100
[00:04] <wgrant> How does he measure that 100MB?
[00:04] <Akiva-Mobile> what the explorer tells him
[00:04] <Akiva-Mobile> bazaar explorer*
[00:04] <wgrant> Is it size on disk, network traffic, the volume reported by the bazaar progress meter?
[00:04] <Akiva-Mobile> volume reported by bazaar
[00:05] <wgrant> I've not used bzr-explorer, so I don't know what it shows.
[00:05] <wgrant> Has he tried pulling from outside bzr-explorer? Perhaps its reporting is inaccurate.
[00:05] <Akiva-Mobile> wgrant:  yah hes complaining about it in comparison to git
[00:06] <Akiva-Mobile> claiming git is much faster. He already has the code though, just not the current revision
[00:06] <Akiva-Mobile> if you have the code but not the revision, do you do a merge instead?
[00:06] <Akiva-Mobile> or do you always pull?
[00:06] <Akiva-Mobile> or update; ive never used that.
[00:06] <wgrant> Those operations should be roughly equivalent in terms of performance.
[00:07] <Akiva-Mobile> okay,
[00:07] <wgrant> Has he tried a pull from the commandline, or measured the network traffic, to rule out a bzr-explorer reporting issue?
[00:07]  * Akiva-Mobile thought he was due for a rtfm, and is thankful for your patience.
[00:07] <Akiva-Mobile> wgrant: Nope. Guess its possible there could be an error
[00:10] <wgrant> I just pulled some changes to lp:launchpad, which has like 150000 revisions and is nearly 300MB, and the SSH connection transferred a total of 148KB.
[00:11] <wgrant> HTTP will be worse, as it's not a smart protocol.
[00:11] <wgrant> So ensure that he's authenticated to Launchpad so he's using bzr+ssh
[00:28] <pmatulis> i forgot, how does one get a private PPA again?
[00:30] <wgrant> pmatulis: Create it under a private team, or poke me or webops (here, #launchpad-ops internally, or at commercial@launchpad.net)
[16:51] <grahamba_> Hello, I'm trying to get to https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~canonical-website-editors/ubuntu-assets/trunk/revision/286 but keep getting an error, could anyone help, please?
[17:00] <dobey> grahamba_: what error? "Unauthorized" ?
[17:00] <grahamba_> Hi dobey it's this…
[17:00] <grahamba_> Please try again
[17:00] <grahamba_> Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[17:00] <grahamba_> Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.
[17:00] <grahamba_> Thanks for your patience.
[17:01] <dobey> ah, probably a timeout. only suggestion i have then is to wait a bit and try reloading
[17:02] <grahamba_> dobey: okay, I'll keep trying, thank you
[19:04] <mapreri> I can't upload the same version for multiple distroseries, can I
[19:04] <mapreri> ?
[19:05] <mapreri> in a ppa, I mean
[19:06] <dobey> no