=== [Rainbow_Dash] is now known as Maple__ === plars-afk is now known as plars === gac_ is now known as gac === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:58] hi [09:58] What are the actual min rec RAM for Ubuntu 13.10 x64? - I tried with 1024MB on VirtualBox and it was very slow :\ [10:35] are you sure you hit the ram limit? [10:35] what does free -m say? [10:38] i bet its the video limit or llvmpipe stuff and not the ram [11:29] ive lost my ctrl-alt-t open terminal shortcut.. is this a known current issue? [11:30] it started happening a few days ago maybe [11:34] if i go into system settings -> keyboard .. theres a shortcut for launch terminal thats defined as Ctrl+Alt+T [11:36] im using metacity with gnome-fallback [12:45] 'Morning folks [13:56] !ask [13:56] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [14:35] hello [14:35] hi [14:42] ariel__: hiya [14:44] help [14:45] i am from colombia [14:45] i live in colombia [14:45] my english is sou sou [14:46] help error ubuntu 13.10 [14:47] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6119732/ [14:57] ariel__: yep software center crashed on me too. [14:58] ctrl-alt-t stopped working! noooo *explodes* [14:59] ariel__: in a terminal use this ubuntu-bug software-center and raise a bug and include your pastebin [14:59] snadge: worky here [14:59] gnome fallback im using [15:00] ah unity here [15:01] i may have to switch, it's annoying [15:01] also the scroll wheel has stopped working on the speaker/volume indicator applet [15:02] snadge: i'm so used to unity now i get a shock at girlfriends when i have to use here machine without unity [15:02] assuming thats another issue specific to unaccelerated gnome fallback session [15:02] i can actually happily use either [15:03] i just find the non composited desktop better for full screen 3d gaming [15:06] the fallback session is great imho, definitely worth keeping that around, for compatibility and remote desktop especially [15:06] and whingers ;) [15:25] snadge: saucy running fine even on my acer 1410 [15:47] yeah okay.. so after installing some updates and a reboot now the scroll wheel works on the volume again [15:47] still no ctrl alt t.. or ctrl alt l [15:56] snadge: what about in a unity session [15:56] snadge: might be worth raising a thread here. http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=427 [15:58] Is getting rid of python 2.7 one of the goals for 13.10? [15:58] Why would it be? [15:59] Well, was just wondering. [15:59] I've migrated to python3.x for my own scripts and am just trying to estimate the time frame for when python2.x stops being included by default. [15:59] Even if the Ubuntu devs were trying to get all their scripts updated to python3, I can't seem 2.7 getting removed from the standard install. [15:59] s/seem/see/ [16:00] I'm thinking it would be fairly soon though [16:01] it seems that gnome 3 is still largely dependent on python 2.7, though. [16:10] about to do a reinstall; should I bother with 3.10> [16:10] ? [16:10] 13.10? [16:11] doesnt seem like much has changed [16:12] I saw that on nvidia hardware gnome 3 now requires vsync. That was huge change for fluidity and pleasantness of the desktop experience for me. [16:13] no more tearing halfway every time I scroll down in browser [16:14] it used to work by default in compiz, or you could flick a checkbox on to enable it if nothing else, but that capability was lost in gnome 3 transition. I'm glad it's back. For that reason alone, I'd recommend update if you happen to use it. [16:14] it's probably been on all the time on unity, the lucky bastards [16:14] philinux .. unity works as expected.. i can open terminal, lock desktop [16:15] gnome fallback, i can open a terminal [16:15] but not lock the desktop [16:15] gnome fallback with no effects.. cant do either [16:15] strange.. the shortcuts are defined.. i can capture the event.. hmms [19:34] When i upgraded to 13.10 beta it doesnt seem to load the correct intel drivers. Always when I start up i get "Low resolution" warning but then it starts lightdm and x as usual. But in settings->about in x it says Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.2, 128 bits) and not intel... [19:37] fhedstrom: which intel chip ? sudo lshw -C video , look for the 'product:' [19:39] Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [19:39] BluesKaj, Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [19:41] fhedstrom: try , lspci | grep VGA , that may give us more precise info [19:42] BluesKaj, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18) [19:42] sorry.. [19:44] I guess it could be the Mobile Intel GM965 Express [19:44] but im not sure... mby i should boot 13.04 and find out [19:44] I think that's it [19:46] Its a bit old laptop - dell vostro [19:46] check "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel" [19:46] to make sure that the intel driver is installed [19:47] Installerad: 2:2.21.14-4ubuntu4 [19:47] Translates "Installed" [19:48] yea, easy to guess :) [19:48] :> [19:49] checking the relevant log files might shed some light onto this issue [19:49] like /var/log/syslog /var/log/Xorg.0.log [19:50] normally there aren't any additional drivers available for intel onboard gpus , so the default driver is usually "it" . [19:51] Yeah it has been for some realeases now... thats what so strange... never had any problems with it [19:51] is the gallium a fallback driver or? [19:53] fhedstrom: is the same driver default on 13.04 ? [19:53] no, on 13.04 it says intel [19:53] in X [19:53] and its a lot more smoother [19:54] [ 16.383] (II) LoadModule: "intel" [19:54] [ 16.383] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so [19:54] [ 16.414] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [19:54] [ 16.414] compiled for 1.14.2.901, module version = 2.21.14 [19:54] are you on unity , and 13,10 is using Xmir is it not ? [19:55] now im on gnome-shell but i thought the intel driver didnt support xmir? [19:55] and it wasnt default yet [19:57] I'm KDE user and all this Xmir stuff on ubuntu saucy is becoming difficult for me to figure out ...KDE is still using X [19:58] So is gnome-shell [19:58] ok [20:01] But I agree... Its getting harder and harder to use different windowmanagers [20:02] well I'll search the logs BluesKaj tnx for trying [20:04] if it's any consolation fhedstrom , 13.10 , at least on KDE, isn't really much different than 13.04 [20:05] Is indicator-datetime not loading for anyone else? [21:04] can anyone confirm, that notify-osd queues notifications (volume changes,..) instead of replacing the existing notification popup? [21:13] brainwash: might be bug 1191565 [21:13] bug 1191565 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "show OSD all skipped tracks, showing wrong thumbnails, repeating, very annoying" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1191565 [21:14] yes :D [21:15] this one requires some more attention :/ [23:07] I need to file a bug for audio stuttering, anyone know how to do that?