[03:54] <alberts> cyphermox:  in what issues you ran?
[07:19] <tkamppeter> larsu_, hi
[07:25] <larsu_> tkamppeter: hi
[07:27] <tkamppeter> larsu, can you have a look at bug 1196986, seems to be a problem with bannertopdf.
[07:27] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1196986 in cups-filters (Ubuntu) "bannertopdf can't handle Japanese characters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196986
[07:28] <larsu> tkamppeter: yes I saw that one. I'll have a look as soon as I have time.
[08:02] <didrocks> good morning
[08:03] <Laney> hi
[08:05] <jibel> Good morning
[08:15] <Mirv> didrocks: I've the new autopilot compiled in daily-build, and I've the first comparison now - at least during first run, 3 failed ui-toolkit autopilot tests with the new autopilot, all successful with the old. I'll test now again with the new one.
[08:19] <didrocks> Mirv: thanks! keep us up to date :)
[08:23]  * didrocks has to answer tones of emails on people not being happy with the manual landing. Not sure why they don't contact asac :/
[08:23] <asac> didrocks: dont explain
[08:23] <asac> direct them to me
[08:23] <asac> :)
[08:23] <didrocks> especially has some wants to workaround this with manual uploads now that "everything is blocked because of daily release"
[08:24] <didrocks> asac: this is clearly hurting the CI view, everyone things now that dailies are broken as well ^
[08:24] <didrocks> and that's why we have this process
[08:24] <asac> didrocks: lets talk in 6 minutes :)
[08:32] <Laney> muhahaha, libgdata succeeded on a rebuild
[09:44] <didrocks> cyphermox: sil2100: robru: Mirv: can you join #ubuntu-ci-eng please? we can coordinate landing there
[10:19] <didrocks> jibel: hey, who should I contact to create an experimental view? (experimental/mir and experimental/mirslave)
[10:20] <jibel> didrocks, on jenkins?
[10:20] <didrocks> yeah
[10:20] <jibel> didrocks, I explained cyphermox how to do it last week
[10:20] <didrocks> jibel: ok, I'll ping him, thanks
[10:20] <didrocks> we still have http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Experimental/view/All/ until then
[10:20] <jibel> didrocks, he should know but I can help if he encounters any problem
[10:21] <didrocks> jibel: perfect, thanks a lot ;)
[11:33]  * didrocks out for an hour, trying to run to keep awaken ;)
[11:43] <Sweetsha1k> jibel: any chance you get the libreoffice bibisect repo updated again?
[12:10] <Laney> dpm: hey, translations q: I just set up https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wallpapers/trunk/+pots/ubuntu-wallpapers - is it going to synchronise with https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers/+pots/ubuntu-wallpapers ?
[12:14]  * dpm looks
[12:14] <Laney> it says they are shared
[12:15] <Laney> just wondering if there's a delay to be expected there
[12:17] <Sweetshark> Hey desktopers, I need someone to sponsor a LibreOffice saucy update! volunteers?
[12:18] <dpm> Laney, it looks good. I've just changed a couple of things: set the permissions to Restricted in the upstream project (they were set to Open). I've also set the imports to import only templates: there is no need to import PO files in the upstream project if translations are going to be done in LP. Notice that the "Automatic synchronization of translations is not enabled" message in https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/ubuntu-wallpap
[12:18] <dpm> ers/+sharing-details is a bug in LP. It happens when you set the imports to templates only, but it does the sharing nevertheless.
[12:18] <Sweetshark> (well, s/I need someone to sponsor/Tommorrow I need someone to sponsor/)
[12:18] <Laney> dpm: OK, there were no translations in the source branch only
[12:19] <Laney> not sure why you'd choose restricted but if that's the standard choice then fine
[12:19] <Laney> if there's people who do the necessary reviewing
[12:19] <dpm> Laney, and sharing is instant (i.e. once set in LP, translators can already translate on either side, and the translations will propagate the minute they submit them)
[12:19] <Laney> dpm: what about the pre-existing ones?
[12:20] <dpm> Laney, leaving a project's translation permission to open is a recipe for disaster. It's the same as if bzr branches were open for commits: you'd get lots of activity, but that wouldn't reflect on good quality
[12:20] <dpm> Laney, ah, let me have a look. Perhaps we need to set upstream to import PO files and when LP is done then switch it back to templates only
[12:22] <dpm> there don't seem to be any translations in the branch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/ubuntu-wallpapers/ubuntu/files/head:/po/
[12:22] <dpm> so I think we can set the imports to templates only
[12:22] <Laney> yeah I want to get the ones that LP knows about in there
[12:22] <Sweetshark> no volunteers? Then I suggest to assign didrocks as a sponsor -- LibreOffice wouldnt work without a french guy sponsoring it ...
[12:22] <Laney> from the saucy package
[12:23] <dpm> Laney, automatic exports should take care of that for you
[12:23] <Laney> ok, will see if it happens in a few hours then
[12:23] <Laney> otherwise can always manually import it
[12:23] <Laney> thanks
[12:23] <dpm> Laney, I think it happens some time very early in the morning, once a day, so I think we've missed the window for the exports
[12:23] <Laney> nod
[12:27] <pitti> Good morning
[13:04] <tkamppeter> I have installed "gallery-app" on a normal Ubuntu desktop (Unity) how do I get my photos (in ~/Pictures/) visible in it?
[13:10] <czajkowski> chrisccoulson: you mock me! meanie! :)
[13:10] <chrisccoulson> hi :)
[13:31] <sil2100> Mirv: still around :D ?
[13:45] <sil2100> kenvandine: ping!
[13:45] <desrt_> Laney: did you do the new glib upload yet?
[13:45] <Laney> desrt: which new?
[13:45] <desrt> Laney: released yesterday
[13:46] <Laney> no
[13:46] <desrt> k
[13:46] <Laney> was off yesterday & sponsoring this morning
[13:46] <Laney> a problem?
[13:46] <desrt> if you're gonna do it, please include this little guy: https://bug707787.bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=255107
[13:46] <kenvandine> sil2100, pong
[13:46] <Laney> ok
[13:46] <desrt> Laney: thanks
[13:46] <Laney> not worth doing a .1 release?
[13:46] <sil2100> Laney: hi! I'm running the latest content-hub right now on my phone, and I'm trying to change the background in u-s-s - when I click on the Welcome screen image it opens up the gallery-app, but do you know what I should do to select the image to be the wallpaper ;p?
[13:46] <desrt> Laney: hmm
[13:46] <sil2100> kenvandine: ^
[13:47] <desrt> Laney: we do have a new chinese translation as well :)
[13:47] <Laney> I heard people like those
[13:47] <desrt> okay sure.  i can do a new release.
[13:47] <sil2100> kenvandine, Laney: since right now it opens up the gallery-app like a normal app and I just can browse images, not select any of them to be my wallpaper
[13:47] <kenvandine> sil2100, humm... do you get the picker toolbar at the bottom?
[13:47] <Laney> desrt: up to you, cherry picking is just as easy for me
[13:47] <sil2100> kenvandine: nope...
[13:47] <kenvandine> it should go in picker mode
[13:47] <kenvandine> do you have multiple instances of gallery-app?
[13:48] <kenvandine> oh... wait
[13:48] <kenvandine> sil2100, latest content-hub == what version?
[13:48] <kenvandine> last i checked, the latest published was too old for what gallery-app needed
[13:48] <sil2100> kenvandine: the one that got built today, i.e. 0.0+13.10.20130917-0ubuntu1
[13:48] <kenvandine> sil2100, that's why i was bugging you guys about publishing last week
[13:48] <kenvandine> ok... humm
[13:49] <sil2100> kenvandine: since before it didn't even start the gallery-app when clicking on the background
[13:49] <kenvandine> and what about gallery-app?
[13:49] <sil2100> kenvandine: gallery-app I have an old one - do we need a new gallery-app for that? I have 0.0.67+13.10.20130905-0ubuntu1
[13:51] <kenvandine> sil2100, that version of gallery-app worked for me last week... with content-hub trunk
[13:51] <kenvandine> oh, wait not quite
[13:51] <kenvandine> there is one more branch...  https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/gallery-single-select/+merge/185230
[13:52] <kenvandine> i'm using that branch, which has failures still
[13:52] <sil2100> Ouch ;/
[13:52] <sil2100> kenvandine: did you add that to the list of 'Landing Asks' in the Landing Pipeline?
[13:53] <sil2100> Since I guess it's essential to land along with content-hub, otherwise we have no test-cases to check if it works
[13:53] <kenvandine> humm... the failure is because it is building against the old content-hub
[13:53] <kenvandine> he should bump the build depends there
[13:53] <kenvandine> so content-hub got published today?
[13:54] <kenvandine> sil2100, the content-hub items on the landing asks sheet lists this use case to test, so that's good :)
[13:54] <tkamppeter> Has anyone tested gallery-app on a normal Ubuntu desktop? I cannot see my photos then/
[13:55] <kenvandine> tkamppeter, it works for me... it only shows photos in ~/Pictures
[13:55] <sil2100> kenvandine: no it didn't get published, I want to publish it but I must make sure it passes the manual tests
[13:55] <sil2100> kenvandine: which I tried, but don't work ;p
[13:55] <tkamppeter> For convergence (using same data on Ubuntu Touch and normal desktop) this shouls work.
[13:55] <kenvandine> hehe
[13:55] <sil2100> kenvandine: so it means we need to rebuild and release gallery-app along with content-hub...
[13:55] <kenvandine> yeah, the CI is failing on this branch
[13:55] <tkamppeter> kenvandine, my photos are in subdirectories of ~/Pictures.
[13:55] <kenvandine> building against the older content-hub
[13:55] <kenvandine> tkamppeter, should work then...
[13:56] <kenvandine> tkamppeter, works for me... any errors if you run it from a console?
[13:56] <kenvandine> sil2100, now that we have read-only images, do we just need to remount rw to install debs?
[13:57] <sil2100> kenvandine: well, I still use the old images since it's a pain otherwise ;)
[13:57] <tkamppeter> kenvandine, I get only photos shown which are directly in ~/Pictures/ not the ones in subdirectories.
[13:58] <kenvandine> tkamppeter, oh... i guess you're right
[13:58] <kenvandine> humm
[13:58] <kenvandine> tkamppeter, ask about that in #ubuntu-touch
[13:58] <kenvandine> or look for bug reports, surely someone has filed that :)
[14:08] <didrocks> kenvandine: btw please join #ubuntu-ci-eng
[14:12] <tkamppeter> kenvandine, no answer yet on #ubuntu-touch, have reported bug 1226613 now.
[14:12] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1226613 in gallery-app (Ubuntu) "gallery-app on normal Unity desktop: Photos in subdirectories of ~/Pictures are not displayed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1226613
[14:12] <kenvandine> tkamppeter, thx
[14:15]  * Laney hopes someone is in a u-s-s reviewing frame of mind
[14:17]  * sil2100 can be if needed
[14:17] <Laney> doing a few MPs to hide stuff
[14:17] <sil2100> Laney: any merge of high priority?
[14:18] <Laney> not really
[14:18] <Laney> they just stack up
[14:18] <Laney> so good to spend a bit of time each day doing them
[14:19] <sil2100> Laney: I'll do some in a moment, looking at what's available already
[14:41] <jbicha> Laney: I guess we'll have to drop gnome-documents/armhf from saucy because libgdata/armhf is build without goa support
[14:41] <Laney> does it do anyting without goa?
[14:42] <jbicha> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-documents/3.8.4-1/+build/4932336
[14:44] <jbicha> without goa, I guess gnome-documents would still be a decent but very simple document viewer
[14:44] <Laney> it's a hard requirement in configure.ac
[14:44] <jbicha> yeah, perhaps it could be conditionalized but not by me right now
[14:45] <jbicha> someone should also test-build e-d-s and evolution to make sure they'll rebuild on armhf
[14:46] <jbicha> I was able to rebuild grilo-plugins fine here
[15:49] <jasoncwarner> hey Laney, around?
[15:50] <Laney> jasoncwarner: sure am
[15:50] <jasoncwarner> hey Laney !
[15:50] <Laney> how's it going?
[15:51] <jasoncwarner> alright. just following up on the date & time.
[15:51] <Laney> okies
[16:22] <desrt> Laney: there is a .93 now, thanks for the suggestion
[16:22] <Laney> desrt: cool, tomorrow is the day
[16:23] <desrt> great.  thanks.
[16:58] <Laney> jasoncwarner: I think you found a system-settings bug
[16:58] <Laney> kudos :P
[16:58] <jasoncwarner> Laney: which one is that specifically?
[16:58] <jasoncwarner> ;)
[16:59] <Laney> clicking on the disabled component
[16:59] <jasoncwarner> ah, ok :)
[16:59] <Laney> I mean bug as in something we didn't know about
[16:59] <Laney> yeah, I see how to fix that
[17:00] <Laney> it even was fixed in one case but not the other
[17:03] <Laney> ya, seems happy enough
[17:04] <jasoncwarner> thanks Laney
[19:10] <desrt> pitti: hey.  pygobject currently fails to build: configure: error: You must have one of the following versions of lcov: 1.6 1.7 1.8 1.9 (found: 1.10).
[19:10] <desrt> pitti: uninstalling lcov makes it work properly.....
[19:14] <pitti> desrt: oh, Fedora has 10?
[19:14] <desrt> seems to
[19:14] <pitti> desrt: so I guess we need a newer gnome-common in saucy for building the tarball?
[19:15] <desrt> pitti: i built out of git....
[19:15] <desrt> maybe gnome-common was indeed the problem
[19:16] <pitti> autogen.sh doesn't verify the lcov version by itself, that must have been through autoconf via gnome-common
[19:16] <desrt> okay.  so this is probably a jhbuild bug then
[19:16] <desrt> ie: not requiring a new-enough gnome-common in the sysdeps
[19:17] <pitti> hm, but gnome-common itself should be jhbuildable?
[19:17] <desrt> yes... but jhbuild skips building things that have a 'new enough' version already installed on the system
[19:17] <desrt> in fact, it looks like pygobject has no gnome-common depend at all.... did you add this lcov stuff recently?
[19:18] <pitti> desrt: maybe half a year ago or so
[19:18] <desrt> huh
[19:18]  * desrt appears confused
[19:18] <pitti> Thu Nov 8 14:54:30 2012 +0100
[19:19] <pitti> that's when I landed it in pygobject
[19:19] <desrt> installing gnome-common out of git fixes the issue
[19:19] <desrt> so this is a definite jhbuild moduleset bug
[19:19] <desrt> ignore me =)
[19:19] <pitti> desrt: oh, I might not have added a g-common dep to jhbuild
[19:20] <desrt> pitti: if you want to do that, that could be nice
[19:20] <pitti> desrt: are the modulesets subject to the hard freeze?
[19:20] <desrt> no.  i imagine not.
[19:21] <desrt> i know we have a blanet exception for buildsystem fixes.  i'd include this under that.
[19:22] <pitti> desrt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6120793/ ?
[19:22] <desrt> looks fine to me
[19:23] <desrt> let me know if you push it -- i can test right away
[19:24] <pitti> desrt: pushed
[19:25]  * pitti listens to LinuxCon keynote, bbl
[19:25] <desrt> pitti: seems to work properly.  thanks.
[19:26] <desrt> pitti: you correctly note for tarball builds that you should have a newer gnome-common, though
[19:26] <desrt> maybe do tarballs from inside of jhbuild?
[20:11] <pitti> desrt: yes, that indeed seems better; I actually thought I had done so
[20:11] <pitti> like, I usually run jhbuild run make distcheck
[20:11] <desrt> well -- as stated, i was building out of git
[20:12] <desrt> so i have no idea what the state of the tarballs is
[21:27] <ochosi> robert_ancell: hi there
[21:28] <ochosi> sorry to ping you a bit out of context, but there are a few lightdm issues i wanted to quickly ask you about (if there's time)
[21:30] <ochosi> first of all, the test-mode seems rather borked now (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1226544)
[21:30] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1226544 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm --test-mode fails immediately" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[21:31] <ochosi> and secondly, the greeter returns false on querying whether restarting is possible (https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+bug/1226509)
[21:31] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1226509 in Light Display Manager "lightdm_get_can_restart returns false in Ubuntu Saucy" [Undecided,New]
[21:31] <ochosi> these two weren't present in Raring
[21:32] <robert_ancell> ochosi, hi. I haven't had time to look at them but for the second one try calling the D-Bus interface yourself and see if that is returning false. If it is, then that's an issue in logind
[21:33] <ochosi> robert_ancell: ah, nice! thanks for the hint!
[21:33] <robert_ancell> ochosi, I haven't tried test-mode in a while
[21:33] <ochosi> yeah, it was useful for us when developing the greeter
[21:33] <ochosi> and it still is
[21:33] <ochosi> so it'd be nice if it was kept alive
[21:33] <robert_ancell> I'll try and have a look, but very busy so any help much appreciated
[21:33] <ochosi> logind seems to cause some issues in across desktops
[21:34] <ochosi> yeah, i thought so
[21:34] <ochosi> mobile and mir are eating up all the time, innit?
[21:34] <robert_ancell> ochosi, sure are :)
[21:34] <ochosi> hm, logind seems to cause odd logout-delays in pretty much all desktops btw
[21:35] <ochosi> i've talked to lubuntu folk, heard the same from kubuntu and ubuntu-gnome plus ubuntu itself too
[21:35] <ochosi> seems no-one has debugged it yet, and i'm afraid logind is a bit over my head..
[21:35] <ochosi> just in case you know anyone to forward this to
[21:35] <robert_ancell> I'm no logind expert, you want to talk to people like slangasek and others on the Ubuntu foundations team
[21:35] <ochosi> hm, ok
[21:36] <ochosi> i'll try to get a hold of them then
[21:36] <ochosi> thanks a lot for your help, it's really much appreciated
[21:36] <ochosi> especially as i know how much the team is focussed on !=desktop atm
[21:36] <robert_ancell> ochosi, np!
[21:36] <robert_ancell> gtg, later all
[21:37] <ochosi> sure, seeya!